Lost access to the map i was making

[strong pilot]

Hello, I'm guessing this is a common issue but after weeks of using Lönn and playing mods what I feared would happen eventually happened: I can't test the map I was creating or play the Strawberry Jam Collab.

I think this was caused by some mixup with the updates (some mods just won't update themselves for weeks now) and I feel like this is easily fixable.

What can I do? Do I need to wait for more udpates so that everything lines up again? Do I need to reinstall an older Everest Build? How do I know what mods could be causing this issue? Also how can I prevent this from happening, even if it means blocking newer updates? I just don't know where to start troubleshooting. Thanks

[restive flower]

sorry, i don't understand what's the issue

can you disable all mods but SJ and it's dependencies and try to launch it?

[strong pilot]

I just think some crucial mods aren't updating properly for some reason

I tried in-game, in Olympus, without anything else running, and they just don't update

(my problem is just that some maps are not loading)

[restive flower]

ah, i see

update everest

then update mods

and everything should be fine

frost helper reqires latest everest

[strong pilot]

Okay so I installed Everest 4486 and now the game doesn't launch because it's trying to use my Steam version of the game even tho I use a DRM-free version for modding purposes, and fails to do that, saying "no licences"

[restive flower]

huh?

"for modding purposes"?

[strong pilot]

I just use a different folder than my Steam version of Celeste

[restive flower]

why?

[strong pilot]

I just like to keep things separated idk

[restive flower]

||you have bought game, right?||

[strong pilot]

sorry i misremembered

i don't have it on steam i have it on EGS

but still, i don't use Everest with it

[restive flower]

use everest with it

why not

"i just like to"
is not quite good explanition imo :p

[strong pilot]

but it worked until then? its weird

yeah yeah i guess

[restive flower]

well, new everest is very different

[strong pilot]

How do I transfer everything without breaking anything?

[strong pilot]

4486 is very different than 4465?

[restive flower]

1. install everest in new location

2. copy Saves and Mods folders

3. enjoy

[restive flower]

uhh well i forgot numbers, let me see

wait huh

they are not

4465 is core too

can you try more versions?

try 4467 (pinned beta)

[strong pilot]

okay i'm doing it

[restive flower]

on old location

[strong pilot]

ye

[restive flower]

we need to understand when it broke

[strong pilot]

well it must've happened in the last 24 hours or so

I used Lönn yesterday, launched it back up a few hours ago

[restive flower]

i don't think loenn matters

everest does

[strong pilot]

yeah you're right loenn works rn

but

everest worked yesterday too

i could play the maps

[restive flower]

did you update it yesterday?

i mean

did you have latest version?

[strong pilot]

I think i tried to update mods today before noticing my maps where disabled

but never updated everest itself since i installed it over a month ago

[restive flower]

see, and problem is everest version

[strong pilot]

4467 is installed now, still tries to launch with steam even tho I manually selected another Celeste.exe (the one i used before)

[restive flower]

wtf lol

try 4465 again

[strong pilot]

okay

it crashed while installing

trying again

done

doesn't work

even clicking "Celeste" within Olympus sends me to steam for some reason

[restive flower]

try legacy

just scroll down before you see legacy

[strong pilot]

so like, this one?

[restive flower]

i think so?

[strong pilot]

there's a lot of different legacy

?

[restive flower]

latest legacy

[strong pilot]

ok going with 4405 then

Game launches properly

But SJ doesn't show up

neither does my map

[restive flower]

that's fine

main thing is that game launches

now, can you try next version?

how's it called?

[restive flower]

try ig

[strong pilot]

doesn't work

[shell basalt]

All core versions of Everest break "pirated" copies

[strong pilot]

Well they didn't until now lol

[shell basalt]

This wasn't intentional, but it also won't be fixed since it's a nice side effect

[shell basalt]

Stable is core since 4465

Also if I have to be honest, I don't buy your EGS story

[strong pilot]

but it's totally true

[shell basalt]

EGS builds don't ship with the steam integration which you are triggering

[strong pilot]

i just got confused because i do have a steam version in my library but it's on a different account

[shell basalt]

So the build which is throwing this error definitely isn't EGS

[strong pilot]

i do have it on EGS since Farewell came out

[strong pilot]

I never suggested this

[restive flower]

well, Popax is mostly core creator, he knows truth, just use EGS version then

[shell basalt]

.

[strong pilot]

Yeah imma do that from now on I guss

[strong pilot]

I was referring to the fact that it crashed while trying to launch on Steam even tho it shouldnt because i thought I had it on Steam, but I was mistaken in thinking that, I was not implying that the whole error I'm trying to fix was coming from EGS

[restive flower]

i think you both should stop this discussion.
if you really have celeste on EGS, then you have nothing to worry about
If you don't, then you can just leave from this server or buy celeste
there is nothing to discuss

[strong pilot]

I have Celeste on EGS yes, and this disucssion is indeed pointless at this point, thanks for your help! I might need your assistance again in the future though because I might mess up the new installation lol

[shell basalt]

I just don't really buy that you have bought the game on EGS, said you don't have it on Steam, yet are trying to mod a DRM-removed Steam copy and only remembered you had it on a second Steam account when I brought up that EGS doesn't have the code you are hitting

That's a very obscure sequence of events

[strong pilot]

Nah it's just me not being able to properly type in English

[shell basalt]

Since if you had it on either EGS or Steam, then there's a high chance you would have just modded that copy directly in the first place

[strong pilot]

No, because I haven't played it in a while, and forgot I had it

[shell basalt]

Oh and also D:\Games\Celeste.v1.4.0.0\Celeste.v1.4.0.0\ is a bit of a suspicious name, isn't it

[strong pilot]

Yes this is a pirated copy of the game

Is that the admission you're looking for? lol

[restive flower]

i just got silly idea. Just show screenshot that you have celeste in EGS and Popax will go away

i mean, and you are fine

[strong pilot]

here

[restive flower]

i guess it counts

cool

[strong pilot]

I don't know why it says "Install" because I can already launch it from the .exe and it works just fine but I think i'm gonna delete everything and re-download it

[shell basalt]

Thought so
While we can't officially give support for pirated copies, if you own the game legitimately then modding that copy itself is easy, and if you don't Winter Sale on Steam has started (I think), so Celeste should be pretty cheap rn

Also sorry for being a bit insistive, I just had a hunch

[strong pilot]

Totally legit, no problem

I still don't know why it broke overnight tho haha

[restive flower]

dw ~~, also i'm sorry for phrase "go away" ~~

[shell basalt]

TL;DR: Core replaces some DLLs pirated copies stub out for technical reasons, so pirated copies just break

The details of what's going on are freely available, but I won't mention them here just in case any pirates come to this thread

[strong pilot]

Yeah I couldn't understand more than 5% of it anyway

I still half understand what dependencies actually do/are - very new to this

[shell basalt]

Either way, marking this as resolved

If you encounter any issues on the EGS build you can open a new issue