Everything Up to date, yet no Everest in-game. Olympus Crash when relaunching after update.

[terse tiger]

Previously had lua throwing errors in Olympus (or Love?) when navigating the GUI. Reported here: https://github.com/EverestAPI/Olympus/issues/48

No fix except to work around it by updating mods manually via filesystem (instead of gamebanana GUI), and launching via Steam.

Eventually Wartori54 had advice and suggested that updating to love 11.4 fixes the issue (it already was updated on my machine, but I still had the error). Their secondary advice was to delete the love shell script from olympus' working directory. I did this, and it seemed to stabilize Olympus itself, but also seemed to introduce the issue that Celeste would now not launch at all. I was even unable to launch via Steam.

Following a steam forum suggestion (regarding games that don't launch), I used steam GUI to "verify integrity" of local game files (it found a couple issues and reinstalled those files). I was then able to launch the game via Steam and Olympus, but there was no Everest when in-game. I have tried looking for logs to diagnose the issue, but there was no crash anymore and I didn't find anything by randomly poking around.

I then tried rolling back to a previously installed, known-working version of Everest (still no mods in game) and reinstalling olympus (ditto) to see if those fixed the issues and had no luck.

It's been months since I've been able to play, and I just let it be. Today, I opened olympus and saw that there was an update (23.05.24.03), so I updated. I then clicked the relaunch button and it crashed (I unfortunately forgot to copy the error before closing the window, but it was a lua process again). Reopened Olympus and it appears to have successfully updated, just the relaunch failed.

Updated Everest to 4000 and launched into game. Got the vanilla intro screen as if I'd never played yet.

My saves were still there though😅

If there's any additional info I can give, please lmk.
I worry I've been too verbose, but I'm trying to give relevant details.

What now?

[unkempt geyser]

Yeah it was just the love being buggy on linux for some reason and updating seemd to fix it, the new update that you just downloaded does have indeed the working love version and there shouldn't be any issues, if theres any please document either here or in github (troubleshooting here will be much faster, just letting you know)

[umbral plume]

So you installed Everest build 4000 but it still doesn't launch as such? Or what exactly is the remaining issue here.
Also yes, doing the verify files thing in Steam reverts Everest back to Vanilla because Everest integrates itself into your Celeste.exe

[unkempt geyser]

if i haven't completely misunderstood the post i think they're just documenting their journey, so no issue ig

[terse tiger]

Issue still persists that I cannot launch into everest, despite everything being seemingly up to date, even after reinstalling

I understand why doing the steam "verify files" thing would reset that, but I think what I've done since then should bring it back to the modded state, no?

[terse tiger]

Thanks for lmk
That does make sense
See above for remaining issue

[terse tiger]

The initial issue of Olympus crashing constantly seemed to be resolved, yes.

But immediately following that I could not launch everest or vanilla at all, which led me to the other attempts at resolving that, as mentioned in the OP

Everything Up to date, yet no Everest in-game. Olympus Crash when relaunching after update.

[unkempt geyser]

ok, so you installed everest from olympus and succeeded but when you try launching via the everest button it just drops you on the unmodified game?

[terse tiger]

I updated it from Olympus, yes, and also hopped between Everest versions (again via Olympus) when troubleshooting a few months ago.
I'm realizing that I never specifically uninstalled everest though, assuming that's a thing.

And yes, game seems to be unmodified on launch

[unkempt geyser]

Can you go to the games files and verify theres no file called nextLaunchIsVanilla.txt and that an orig folder exists as well as a Mods folder

[terse tiger]

No such text file
I have both folders

[fresh pier]

The version the website makes you download still doesn't have love 11.4 because it hasn't reached stable but I think I'll promote dev to stable today

[unkempt geyser]

oh really

thought that out pushed to stable

[fresh pier]

Since you're using Steam, are you trying to install Everest on a copy of the Celeste folder?

[terse tiger]

Not that I know of
I'm not sure how I would even do that

[unkempt geyser]

hmm then everest seems correctly installed

if you lanuch celeste directly from steam

does it launch to vanilla?

[terse tiger]

Yes

Same with Olympus

Previously it would launch into modded from both places

[unkempt geyser]

ok can you send the celeste logs

[fresh pier]

I was asking because some people just copy Celeste to have a vanilla and an Everest copy of the game, except running both copies leads to the Steam library copy to run

[terse tiger]

I see
Yeah I haven't done that

[terse tiger]

I have a log.txt from March in the game's main directory.
I also have a LogHistory folder at the same level, but it also has only older stuff (maybe it might be useful, but I'm not sure where the more recent stuff would appear)

[unkempt geyser]

log.txt is the lastest one

LogHistory, as its name says, is for older logs

[terse tiger]

That does make sense, but it's from March so I doubted

[unkempt geyser]

huh?

from March

do you know via file properties or by looking at the timestamps in the files contents?

[terse tiger]

Timestamps

[unkempt geyser]

weirdness level increasing

ok maybe send that

[terse tiger]

here 'tis

I have to sleep now. Thanks for y'all's effort, lmk of any questions that come up

[fresh pier]

Yes can confirm this is old

Where is the install you're messing with located?

[unkempt geyser]

hum, seems like celeste is not making new logs, i dunno if vanilla does make logs, but if it doesnt it would make sense

my hypothesis is now that you some how got all the files from everest, but an unmodified celeste.exe

[fresh pier]

What's the size of Celeste.exe, in that case

[terse tiger]

.exe from orig on top
main .exe on the bottom
(they're different sizes)(the orig one is smaller)

which suggests it's been modified

ok news???

[umbral plume]

Yeah that bigger one should have Everest in it, one would think

[terse tiger]

as a sanity check, i launched via olympus again and it successfully launched into everest (???)

i also specifically avoided doing any updating to olympus or everest

(there are currently more recent versions for both)

[umbral plume]

I mean, depending on how outdated your Olympus is, that could explain why Everest wasn't installed properly, but seems a bit unlikely, dunno

[terse tiger]

Olympus was up to date yesterday
only listed change is the one Maddie referred to earlier

everest was up to date yesterday as well

4030 is out now but idk what changed

[umbral plume]

ah, right

yeah 4030 is like, maybe 15 minutes old

[terse tiger]

If anyone wants me to muck around with my current settings still, lmk and I'll hold off on updating to latest

the next thing i want to do is find out how to get a more helpful crash log than just the light blue screen that pops up when olympus crashes
i'm anticipating that when i update olympus from in launcher and try to relaunch it will crash again
where would I find those logs?

[fresh pier]

I'd advise to redownload Olympus from the website instead, to be sure you get the love2d 11.4 update

the logs should be in ~/.config/Olympus

[terse tiger]

should this include an uninstallation step? Mainly thinking about any files that are generated after installation that i may want to preserve. if there are none, can I just yeet and replace with a new one?

the linux install instructions basically has you spawn a new directory, so I already have an old and abandoned olympus directory (which because I wasn't totally sure how the directory was used, I kept it in case reinstalling did not fix my issue, and if there was anything there i still might need later)

[terse tiger]

thanks, maybe i can find existing crashlogs there

[fresh pier]

yeah, you can definitely just throw out the old install directory

[terse tiger]

great, thanks

[fresh pier]

the settings are stored elsewhere

in ~/.config/Olympus as well, I think

[terse tiger]

olympus reinstalled
i have the crash log from the (attempted) relaunch from yesterday/day before if that would be helpful

since now that i've clean installed, everything is up to date and i can't recreate the crash

[unkempt geyser]

tf i heckin love when things fix itself

its such an experience knowing that the issue may come back

did you cause the issue multiple times before reporting or did you just go get help the first time, cuz maybe it was a one time issue

[fresh pier]

by the way, love 11.4 is now on stable, I made a new stable for Olympus just before I made one for Everest

[terse tiger]

i tested multiple times
i think there was a system power cycle in there somewhere? can't remember
either way i try to do as much troubleshooting on my own (and looking for existing similar issues) as I can before asking

[terse tiger]

this is my fear lol

[terse tiger]

should that mean that as of around 30 minutes ago when i downloaded the autobuild from the site, it included the updated love with olympus?

[fresh pier]

Yeah, the stable was out when I told you to download it from the website
You should see the love version in the log

[terse tiger]

[[main]] love2d version 11.4.0.Mysterious Mysteries

Finally in game again after so long
Hopefully won't have issues like this again!
If I get the crash on relaunch after updating again I'll make a new post and include the log, now that I know where to find it easily

Fingers crossed won't get the "not launching at all" behavior again
If I do I'll post here

Thank you dearly for your help and suggestions

Lmk if you have any questions and I'll answer as best I can

[unkempt geyser]

lets cross our fingers and hope all this weirdness vanishes out, and of course, have a great climb!