how to configure a skinhelper mod

[karmic stirrup]

i need help with this i already got some of the sprites done, but idk how to make them work

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/982815072957128726/1009553301865504950/New_Piskel_1.gif

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1008497267185037404/1009564325280755742/grab00_1.gif

[weak pivot]

Have you checked the modding wiki?

[regal spruce]

https://github.com/EverestAPI/Resources/wiki

[karmic stirrup]

hum let me take a look

[karmic stirrup]

where i can find madeline sprites

[regal spruce]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ITwCI2uJ7YflAG0OwBR4uOUEJBjwTCet/view

[karmic stirrup]

btw and how can i put it in game to test, to see if it is working

[weak pivot]

Set up your mod https://github.com/EverestAPI/Resources/wiki/Mod-Structure
then add the images to the right location https://github.com/EverestAPI/Resources/wiki/Texture-Packs

[kindred slate]

Oh your character is cute so far :>

[karmic stirrup]

thanks

[karmic stirrup]

i want to know why some of the sprites i change it dosen't work in game

this one worked

[kindred slate]

Ohhhhhhhhhh

Is that wake up and the tentacle animation

Yeah for some reason those ones have their own folder haha

[karmic stirrup]

for some reason, it dosen't work

even if i did put them on the folder

[kindred slate]

Weird

Alas I'm. Unironically in an airplane rn

Uh. I can probably give you some more personalize dhelp in a few hours

[kindred slate]

Oh it looks like it might be in the wrong spot?

What's the directory of your wakeup folder

[karmic stirrup]

wdym directory

[kindred slate]

Like. The folder structure

Where is it located

[karmic stirrup]

i put it on a separed folder rn, but it is on player on the ZIP

[kindred slate]

It's in the player folder?

[kindred slate]

Weird

[karmic stirrup]

also i cant find the sleep sprites

for some reason

cannot find some of the sprites, and sprites not working

[weak pivot]

is your mod zipped? do you also have an unzipped copy that you're using?

[karmic stirrup]

yes i do

[weak pivot]

don't zip it, just work on the folder copy until you're ready to upload it

[karmic stirrup]

right

but i still coundl't find the missing sprites

like the sleep one

[weak pivot]

can't find them in the asset dump?

[karmic stirrup]

i use the asset dump to make the sprites

isn't there either

[weak pivot]

the code indicates it should just be characters/player/sleep

[weak pivot]

is this in the asset dump? or in your own mod

[karmic stirrup]

i took the asset dump and replaced the sprites

[weak pivot]

you shouldn't put the entirety of the asset dump in your mod, only add sprites you actually modify

[karmic stirrup]

i am gonna modify only madeline's sprites

and i think i have to put badeline one bc she lost her hair

[weak pivot]

the graphics dump definitely has images for characters/player/sleep

[karmic stirrup]

strange...

also smh

the wake up dosen't work

like

i put the files correctly but it still dosen't works

[weak pivot]

did you delete the zipped copy of your mod?

[karmic stirrup]

i mean i deleted the old ones to replace for a new version of it

[weak pivot]

don't zip your mod while you're working on it.

[karmic stirrup]

it fr dosen't

[weak pivot]

Have you tried redownloading it?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ITwCI2uJ7YflAG0OwBR4uOUEJBjwTCet/view

[karmic stirrup]

i did redownloaded

the screen shot is from a new one

[karmic stirrup]

is the file a new one?

bc like

i did downloaded hat one

but it dosen't have the sprites that's missing

[weak pivot]

that's... odd

here's a zip of the sleep sprites in my graphics dump, try using them instead I guess

[karmic stirrup]

no worries, i had the sprites of sleep i made

i was also checking the badeline with no back back sprites

then i knew there was some sprites missing

then i picked the badeline sprites and changed to mine's

@weak pivot btw does the big fall has a separeted folder or it just stays on player folder

[weak pivot]

seems to be in the same folder

[karmic stirrup]

ye

i picked the bigfall sprites and put them on the folder

and it worked

and wonder why the wake up on madeline with the back pack doesn't work

and the no backpack one does

[weak pivot]

I don't think that it exists

[karmic stirrup]

the wake up?

the animation from the first part from chapter 2

[weak pivot]

yeah, I don't think it exists without a backpack

[karmic stirrup]

with the back pack dosen't works

but withoud the back pack does

smh

[weak pivot]

according to this wake up is in a folder, is that what you have set up?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yQpj05TaNuI5rfxF4zCfg8Z9oX_XzihGwm94D2t5ZkE/edit#gid=0

[karmic stirrup]

ye

on player and player_no_backpack has wake up folder

with the sprites on it

but only with the player_no_back pack works

while the normal player doesn't

[weak pivot]

can you upload your log.txt file?

[karmic stirrup]

wdym

like it dosen't appear anything on my screen, the wake up just dosen't work

[weak pivot]

there's a log.txt file in your Celeste install folder that includes warnings and information about the current session

[karmic stirrup]

how do i open it

i need to go on celeste files?

[weak pivot]

it's in the folder with the Celeste.exe file

[karmic stirrup]

@weak pivot do you wanna see me screen share

i can show you want happens

and the logs didn't showed anything

[weak pivot]

can you upload it anyways so I can check?

[karmic stirrup]

the mod?

[pulsar token]

the log.txt

[karmic stirrup]

oh right

@weak pivot

tried making this

but it also didn't worked

[weak pivot]

(08/21/2022 22:28:35) [Everest] [Warn] [content] CONFLICT for asset path Graphics/Atlases/Gameplay/characters/player/wakeUp/00 (Lushnyck vs darkmoonruins)
@karmic stirrup

also haven't I already said you shouldn't be zipping your mod before it's done?

[karmic stirrup]

i have a diff version on a zip to test, to see if it is working

[pulsar token]

having multiple versions of a mod at the same time will almost always break stuff

[karmic stirrup]

i always delete the old version

to replace for a new one

[karmic stirrup]

also i wanna make it that it works with another mod

i think its skin helper

something like that

[weak pivot]

that's probably a good idea, it would also fix your current issue

[karmic stirrup]

ye

but how do i do that actually

(since its my first time making a mod ofc i would ask)

@weak pivot i think i have 3 more animations sprites to make

when i am done

help me how to do it

also i think i am gonna use only 1 folder

[karmic stirrup]

all sprites are done

cannot give it now

since i gotta go sleep

tomorrow the mod might be able to be fully done

[karmic stirrup]

actually there's also 2 missing sprites

the phone one and the lookout thing

[karmic stirrup]

how to configure a skinhelper mod

[pulsar token]

https://github.com/bigkahuna443/SkinModHelper/blob/master/docs/guide/README.md

[karmic stirrup]

oh ok

i will try that

uhh

it dosen't work

it just replaces for the madeline model

[pulsar token]

did you set the path in your skinmodhelper Sprites.xml?

[karmic stirrup]

how do i open an xml fine

just askin

[pulsar token]

with a plain text editor (like notepad or notepad++)

also generally you should try doing all steps of a tutorial before saying that it doesn't work

[karmic stirrup]

do you have the xlm code for madeline

[pulsar token]

it's in

[karmic stirrup]

oh

final test

maybe

uhh it did worked but not how i wanted

it has madeline's hair now

wathe

it still the same thing

smh

[pulsar token]

what did you change after this?

[karmic stirrup]

i mean like

the folder is on the player folder

but it didn't work

also

the payphone

its just gone

[pulsar token]

I mean it worked here, right?

[karmic stirrup]

the mod is working

but there's some things that need to be fixed

as i was saying

the payphone just appear when the animation starts

[pulsar token]

yeah but I have no idea what things if you just post screenshots of missing texture icons

[karmic stirrup]

that's the wakeUp

[pulsar token]

then you're probably missing that animation

[karmic stirrup]

i do have it

[pulsar token]

at what path?

[karmic stirrup]

ig "gameplay_pumpkin_Lush_characters_player_wakeUp"

if that is correct

ye it is

[pulsar token]

that's not a path

[karmic stirrup]

idk

i never worked on this

idk scripting either

[pulsar token]

you mean Graphics\Atlases\Gameplay\pumpkin\characters\player\wakeUp ?

[karmic stirrup]

yeah

[pulsar token]

what are the files called?

[karmic stirrup]

wakeup

[pulsar token]

they need to be called 00.png through 14.png, like in the graphics dump

[karmic stirrup]

OHHH

i tought it was named wakeUp

[pulsar token]

just use the same filenames as the graphics dump

[karmic stirrup]

right

[karmic stirrup]

right

all seted up

now

i want to remove that hair

also why th the payphone dosen't showup

oh yea wait

uhm

[pulsar token]

yeah you're gonna need to include even the files that you didn't modify

[karmic stirrup]

what about the bangs

[pulsar token]

I'm assuming your mod is missing phone00.png

[pulsar token]

hair

I have very little idea how hair works tbh

[karmic stirrup]

hair is the ball thing

[pulsar token]

bangs are basically added to your sprite and change color based on dash count

[karmic stirrup]

that has the physics

yea

[pulsar token]

whereas hair is drawn via code and has physics

[karmic stirrup]

i cannot find that

[karmic stirrup]

.

[pulsar token]

you can't find what?

[karmic stirrup]

the bangs

i want to remove it

bc the mod is just adding it back

[pulsar token]

I think you can just make the bang sprites transparent?

[karmic stirrup]

if i remove the idle animation

will it just broke

or will not happen

i want to remove the idle A and B

[pulsar token]

alternatively you can try deleting the Metadata section in your Sprites.xml maybe?

[karmic stirrup]

but it will remove the hair

not the bangs

[pulsar token]

if you just remove an animation, the game will crash when it tries to play that animation

[karmic stirrup]

i want to keep the hair

bc it looks like a scarf

for the character

[karmic stirrup]

then i am not doing it

lol

[pulsar token]

I thought the metadata hair stuff affects bang position too

[karmic stirrup]

no

[pulsar token]

.

[pulsar token]

I think this would work though

[karmic stirrup]

i did that

it just replaced for a new bang

basically the ones i used

[pulsar token]

so those are just transparent pngs?

[karmic stirrup]

ye

[pulsar token]

hmm

ah I think bangs aren't defined via sprites.xml

[karmic stirrup]

ye

it isn't on sprites.xml

on the niko skin mod it dosen't have the bangs

[pulsar token]

this is all I got

[karmic stirrup]

uhh

i dont get it

this is too confusing for me

ITS TOO MUCH LINES

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/994571424373145600.webp?size=64

[pulsar token]

er @velvet horizon how do you have to change the metadata to remove bangs while keeping hair

[karmic stirrup]

on the metadata it only removes the hair

not the bangs

like on this one

[velvet horizon]

sorry what are you trying to do here

remove bangs, hair, or both?

[karmic stirrup]

remove bangs

[pulsar token]

remove bangs in a skinmodhelper mod

[karmic stirrup]

only

i also need to fix the payphone thing, bc the payphone just appear when the animation starts

even tho i made all the files

[pulsar token]

.

[karmic stirrup]

i made all of them

also it was the light thing

wait.

nvm.

i am stupid

there's 2 diff things

[velvet horizon]

the Niko skin removes the hair and the bangs. all the sprites just have the hair drawn in (i.e. not code-generated)

having the transparent bangs textures isn't working?

[karmic stirrup]

no

[velvet horizon]

can I see a screenshot of what it looks like in-game?

[karmic stirrup]

the sprites or in game

[pulsar token]

the bangs texture isn't defined via sprites.xml, it just does private List<MTexture> bangs = GFX.Game.GetAtlasSubtextures("characters/player/bangs");

unless you override that in SMH

[velvet horizon]

I do lol

[velvet horizon]

yes? the sprite in-game lol

[karmic stirrup]

(i dont have celeste open)

wait no

[karmic stirrup]

.

[velvet horizon]

not sure what I'm looking at, could you DM me the files? can't debug atm

[karmic stirrup]

i can give you the whole mod

if you want to configure it

[velvet horizon]

it's just to debug lol

but yeah go ahead

[karmic stirrup]

i cannot dm you

its here anyways

[velvet horizon]

yeah looks like you have DMs blocked from non-friends

[karmic stirrup]

yeah

there's some ppl annoying me those days

then i changed so only friends could talk with me

not from this server tho

[velvet horizon]

okay, so there's a reason it's not working correctly

1. you gave it an invalid skin mod ID
2. your sprites.xml is reskinning the vanilla one instead of being in the unique path

so currently your skin is global and isn't using skin mod helper at all

[karmic stirrup]

welp

could you do that for me, like idk how to use that type of stuff

i might try learning them later

[velvet horizon]

I mean you followed most of the guide correctly

[karmic stirrup]

also i am kinda reading a book for a test

i am not 100% focus

[velvet horizon]

alright, well unfortunately I have my own things to work on. it looks like the images are in the right place and paths are correct, so all you really need to do is change the ID to pumpkin_Lush and fix the path of the Sprites.xml. if you have a problem with doing that later you can let me know

[karmic stirrup]

and what about the bangs

[velvet horizon]

it'll probably work once it actually starts using Skin Mod Helper?

[karmic stirrup]

like this?

[pulsar token]

yes

[karmic stirrup]

right i am gonna test again

wake up worked

bangs still here

also the phonepay is working normal

ACTUALLY

IT WORKED

i just forgot to change the skin mod

but it still makes badeline bald

[pulsar token]

ah yeah badeline probably uses the same bangs

[karmic stirrup]

imagine me picking all of her animations and putting hair on it

[karmic stirrup]

this is the only think that isn't working

wiat

oh

maybe its the type of the lookout thing

[pulsar token]

cat ear binos will override your skinmod

[karmic stirrup]

god dammit

there was some missing sprites on the folder

but i already fixed it

i am gonna do the last catch up

if i dont see anything worng

the mod is done to be uploaded

uhh

[velvet horizon]

you may have already figured this out, but for some reason the lookout sprite is entirely separate and has madeline manually drawn behind it lol

objects/lookout