isle-discussion

[nimble raven]

its only 3:43 pm

[mild wagon]

oh right its 11:44 for me so pay up only to me

[lost citrus]

No

[mild wagon]

yes

[void marlin]

17:44 for me

[tardy breach]

We should be able to gamble on the isle

[mild wagon]

what are you a miltary cockatiel or something use normal time

[void marlin]

Agreed

[indigo mountain]

chat is it bad that i've slept 3 hours in 4 days or nah

[tardy breach]

We already have the base system in place bucking is rng. Just add some cherries and you got a slot machine

[void marlin]

Average The Isle player... I see... It's okay :D
-# Go to sleep, NOW

[nimble raven]

I hope we get austro soon man, im strugglin here, im tired of the mixpackers, kentro is cool but herbivore gameplay sucks, and if I see another clown colored rex im going to lose it

[indigo mountain]

ok i will ;-;

[vapid laurel]

Go get good eepies

[indigo mountain]

last presentation is tomorrow. last day of uni. 3 years gone by already

[mild wagon]

unc

[indigo mountain]

BSc Biochemistry. noice.

[vapid laurel]

Time flies when ya least expect it. That's why you gotta appreciate the little things in life.

Hypsi is a little thing!!!!!!!!

[indigo mountain]

IM 21 YOU RAT

[nimble raven]

how do you even have time for this game lmfao

[mild wagon]

i am 17 your basically 100 for me

[leaden cobalt]

Nah

[tardy breach]

Fun fact: when you turn 22 they take you out back and kill you (idk why the picture was added that wasn’t intended)

[indigo mountain]

why u think i don't sleep xDDDDDDD

[void marlin]

I wasn't even born when you KNEW HOW TO TALK AND WALK.

[nimble raven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dead-my-honest-reaction--k01KQ3Z4MGC9HJK5PA3Y658Z919

[indigo mountain]

DONT U DO THIS TO ME IAN

[tulip glade]

@leaden cobalt

[vapid laurel]

The image makes it scarier

[iron spear]

uh oh my time is coming

[indigo mountain]

im guessing im the fish

[tardy breach]

Fish prison

[shadow axle]

should have known you cant counter dump truck thicc allo you stood no chance with your rex Flipper

[indigo mountain]

🐟

[void marlin]

I still have 5 years left

[novel valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102619485334143006/1506020140209143988/7605A01.MP4?ex=6a0cbe0d&is=6a0b6c8d&hm=e3b7456b21ac4f14878e650cd47dc44fd263a4b7526c7c08ea5a2d172609f296&
Every day, my hate for rex grows more and more

[mild wagon]

unc? i think

[void marlin]

I'm 17.

[lost citrus]

I saw two rexes the other day, one was blue and white, the other red and black

[nimble raven]

I would have thrown my keyboard out the window ngl

[tardy breach]

How did it not friendly fire its baby

[mild wagon]

haha i am 17 in 14 days hahaahha

[severe finch]

It's not lime... It's sunshine!

[nimble raven]

that's the only exception I'll make, kinda based ngl

[void marlin]

Cool!

[vapid laurel]

They bit you but not the much larger juvie Rex?
That's some bio-waste left behind by a male cow!

[nimble raven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/this-is-hot-garbage--k01KRYDK1XWPBDXEKDG7K6RW5E0

[mild wagon]

dont patronize me bird

[shadow axle]

ban you could spread gen z cringe

[novel valley]

I was THIS close🤏
Its okay, Ill be back with a vengeance...

[mild wagon]

awww as long as you take ian with me i am fine with it

[nimble raven]

dont bother, playing troodon on main branch is just asking to die from stupidity over and over again. it drove me insane

[novel valley]

Because rex is above every other unworthy species, truly 🙏

[void marlin]

As long as he takes @indigo mountain with me, im fine

[mild wagon]

deals a deal then

[lost citrus]

they were mixpacking and desperately trying to reach my juvie deino who was just swimming down the river

[void marlin]

Carno buff

[nimble raven]

nevermind

[tardy breach]

The tyrant king

[shadow axle]

who is ian????

[lost citrus]

lol

[novel valley]

Nah nah Ive gotten some insane kills in the past 2-3 months, like 2 hours worth of clips at least, enough for 4 videos😂

[mild wagon]

this guy

[nimble raven]

seems like the game treats you better than it does to me

[vapid laurel]

MORE

[novel valley]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[void marlin]

Btw, a carno would have to flap his arms between 10.000 - 50.000 times per second so he can fly

[shadow axle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/rHUlebSKPlMVwPPdpT

[vapid laurel]

[shadow axle]

[void marlin]

[tulip glade]

[indigo mountain]

im not sure where we're going but if you're going im going

[shadow axle]

mods the trex went super saiyan 3

[void marlin]

Trust me I don't know either

[indigo mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-alligator-show-animal-show-crocodile-show-gif-17780819

i want deino to swat off troodons on its back like that

[shadow axle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/primevideo-nEISDuN1BqtgB39Xee

[indigo mountain]

hell yeah i'm in

[shadow axle]

you got drafted to troodon army

[lost citrus]

go to sleep silly skunk

[void marlin]

Can I bring Larry?

[indigo mountain]

imma take a shower and then go i promise

[lost citrus]

good

[shadow axle]

no Larry already went

[void marlin]

Good...

[odd osprey]

goats are impossibel to find

[void marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1500864493444530256/image0.gif

[void marlin]

THIS LARRY?
Because If it's this Larry, then we're going to win the war with no difficulty

[trim elbow]

We have drastically different takes

[shadow axle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-died-cat-comedy-funny-shaky-cat-crawling-cat-gif-21392489

[void marlin]

Be more polite, please.

[shadow axle]

i saw that

[void marlin]

Saw what

[shadow axle]

nothing

[void marlin]

_ _
_ _
_ _

[shadow axle]

just think mods need to use that sticker when they catch someone

[subtle girder]

@torpid sorrel did they get u LOL

[shadow axle]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-the-isle-allosaurus-throw-child-gif-15330864226571724811

[torpid sorrel]

how fast is an allo

[severe finch]

Ha, I love this! Thank you!

[void marlin]

Allosaurus may not love his children, but I love Allosaurus 💖

[subtle girder]

did they catch u? we're still alive

[torpid sorrel]

Nope

[torpid sorrel]

are u in our group? which one are u

[subtle girder]

starlight

[severe finch]

Come visit me sometime. I still get so many kills with this Rex, even though he's shiny. I enjoy a standout skin, because it makes survival harder. I've entombed it and I've won every battle, even against a giant mixpack and their Prime Rex. I say bring it!

[shadow axle]

*gets yeet by ALLOSAURUS *

[lost citrus]

yeeted
more like
eated

[inner jetty]

Allosaurus mentioned i have been summoned

[lost citrus]

Okay but what about
Megalania

[shadow axle]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-und-panzer-yukari-akiyama-blah-blah-stfu-anglerfish-idiot-gif-14134978093112240625

[inner jetty]

Can't begin to express how much I need big lizard

[mild wagon]

i am hungry for it

[shadow axle]

What you want

[lost citrus]

[shadow axle]

***Dies to laughter ***

[swift solar]

who is this DIVA?

[shadow axle]

[idle roost]

i so want to tag owl
or was it lima idk
who likes Megalania again?

[shadow axle]

I cant breathe

[coarse cedar]

millions of dinosaurs discovered on this planet earth and we're glazing hte most generic one 🥱

[shadow axle]

We need more megalania in chat

[mild wagon]

i like his hump back

[shadow axle]

https://tenor.com/view/megalania-gif-6646028164568136417

[mild wagon]

or i gues hump neck

[shadow axle]

Like omni prime hunched back

[inner jetty]

Oh no how dare someone like something specific. Explain how it is any more generic than any other large theropod?

[void marlin]

Megalania is cute I like him
Lizard goes lizar

[coarse cedar]

cause its an allosaurus

[nimble raven]

Allosaurus is pretty far from generic tbh

[lost citrus]

Don't worry, I think you pinged him without knowing lol

[shadow axle]

https://tenor.com/view/yelling-silly-lizard-roar-gif-835253383905903718

[nimble raven]

I'd say torvosaurus is more generic

[shadow axle]

megalania fresh spawn is gona be a killer

[inner jetty]

Ah so no cant come up with a cohesive explanation got it

[nimble raven]

I think owl gets automatically notified anytime the word megalania is mentioned

[inner jetty]

Thats like me with allo

[coarse cedar]

cuz its a filthy pinslop animal 🥱

[shadow axle]

Wana test that ?

[cursive swallow]

Every time I see allo slander you are there on the forefront

[lost citrus]

millions?

I don't even know if there are a million beetle species, the most speciose group

[inner jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/troopers-responsible-helpful-doing-my-part-gif-11496062726020391529

[analog turret]

Allo is poopoo

[nimble raven]

Megalania megalania megalania

[cursive swallow]

Allo is a lot cooler in real life than it is in the Isle

[coarse cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/drama-cute-oh-my-life-gif-8507230208807557758

[nimble raven]

Wdym lol

[lost citrus]

the word is 'hyperbole'

[analog turret]

We won't know of most of the dinosaurs that ever existed

[shadow axle]

MEGALANIA

[cursive swallow]

Actual anguish when I'm reminded of this

[coarse cedar]

indeed

[inner jetty]

Yes infinitely so but let's be honest besides the boring pin mechanic the isles allo is still cool

[cursive swallow]

Allo was a lot cooler in my mind before I met its hick Isle version is what I mean

[shadow axle]

Bring us the megalania truth speaker owl

[cursive swallow]

Isn't that like
Most of its entire thing other than bleed, though

It really would be a lot cooler if they had a kit that played into bleed more

[lost citrus]

If austro drops today Imma have to not play subnautica tonight...

[analog turret]

Allo is still cool

[inner jetty]

Only if you are bad lol, I almost never use the grapple or pin claw swipe ftw

[inner jetty]

The BoM figures look so good

[inner jetty]

Needs more sass

[lost citrus]

and he ain't even in chat to see it

[idle roost]

shame

[opaque coral]

Hope you mean for a week

[austere kayak]

i switched back to evrima and i swear these dilo ghosts are still dealing damage

[idle roost]

my tadpole got destroyed by a leviathan so im taking a break

[vapid laurel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968595189323165797/1041868982921220146/TroodonCake.gif

[tiny burrow]

troodon celebrating krows birthday, which is today! wow! happy birthday krow!

[analog turret]

Krow is old haha

[odd osprey]

I don't understand how people keep finding me? Like i get into a fight, get outnumbered and bleeding and run away. and even when i am much faster and go away a long distance, they manage to always find me

[idle roost]

they can track blood
and foot prints

[tiny burrow]

i will single handedly prevent whatever that easter egg is from being in the game too.

i dont remember what it was supposed to even be either lol

[vapid laurel]

Tracking is kinda stinky yeah

[idle roost]

thats harsh.. oof

[tiny burrow]

no its not. im nicely wishing krow a happy bday

[vapid laurel]

Didn't Don at one point say no easter eggs since he wants anything you find to have a lore reason or something
😮

[cursive swallow]

Blood will get pretty bright under you so you have to pick a real good bush/corner and use your blood pooling to make it difficult for them to understand where you went

[odd osprey]

It was bush, yes, and very far away, in a forest

[tiny burrow]

there was "supposed" to be an easter egg put in game if no one wished krow a happy bday for some extended period of time

[vapid laurel]

[odd osprey]

I only now figured that they could be using esp

[vapid laurel]

I mean he might as well just say "no" lmao.
Saying "don't do this" to people is quite literally the best way to get that thing done.

[vernal jungle]

I'm playing for the first time, what gamemode should I do?

[oblique geyser]

I don't know...

[cursive swallow]

First, have you swapped to the Evrima branch?

[vapid laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-no-jurassic-park-hammond-gif-16813602

[vernal jungle]

no clue, I'm on the screen where it lets me choose a server

[nimble raven]

is it good? been thinkin about gettin it. I heard its got bad performance but uh then again it is a UE game lmfao, I think

[cursive swallow]

Close the game, go to properties, go to Betas, and select Evrima branch. It is the current version of the game that is being updated despite being "beta"

[versed patio]

how to get rid of muscle spasm as rex???

[cursive swallow]

You are likely on legacy version which is very outdated and doesn't get updates/support

[wind acorn]

Eat regular food and wait

[vernal jungle]

Okay, I did it. Is there anything else?

[cursive swallow]

And then once you do that, I recommend just giving any official server with low ping a go. If anything, maybe a simple unofficial with 2x growth if you want to experiment with dinos more

[vernal jungle]

mk thank you so much!

[cursive swallow]

I recommend something that isn't a big dinosaur like a rex or a trike, since those take hours to grow and aren't good for learning the game

[versed patio]

do i need to sit for 20mins??

[tiny burrow]

always recommend gallimimus

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-gif-18372115

[cursive swallow]

Np!

[dusty pawn]

I got to the swamp sanc hell yeah

[wind acorn]

Sit till it’s gone

[little whale]

The mochisaurus rex

[vapid laurel]

Caaaaat

[undone pilot]

So do they frequently wipe dino data in hoardtesting or did my game just wipe both my dinosaurs for no reason

[bronze arch]

it happens every now and then

[undone pilot]

Cool

[languid heath]

Is anyone else not able to join us 11? Been a week or more

[tender violet]

Got jumped by two rexes on my baby trike and killed one of them lol

[torpid sorrel]

can other females sit on my eggs for me?

[patent bramble]

ur babies can sit on ur eggs lol

[torpid sorrel]

but not other females? im doing partho rn, wlw

[patent bramble]

im not sure tbh?

[subtle girder]

bro

[torpid sorrel]

wtf

[opaque coral]

Why’d u put wlw

[subtle girder]

i just got one tapped by a trex. are they rlly that strong??

[torpid sorrel]

its two females, taking care of the babys

[subtle girder]

not anymore. i just got 1 tapped

[torpid sorrel]

yo lilac there are teno eggs, and galli

[opaque coral]

🫡

[odd osprey]

So how good dilo in current state, not on HT? Is poison good enough even without clone?

[subtle girder]

i think imma play rex

are u and cufso dead? LOL

[patent bramble]

on main branch dilo is basically useless since clones dont do dmg 99% of the time so only way to win is if u straight up out dmg ur oponent

[opaque coral]

Dilo is broken rn but fair

[patent bramble]

main branch dilo not HT one

[rich plank]

Can I become the black skin in game? That it shows from my old pre set skins

[unkempt bolt]

Yea I heard it just can’t be pitch black but like super dark purple will look pitch black. I don’t know how tho

[inner jetty]

Yes main branch dilo isn't working correctly so its broken

[vapid laurel]

Melanistic dinosaurs are known to be 60% more likely to get eaten by a rabid Hypsi.
Just saying.

[rancid plaza]

surely the servers roll back like 12 hours

[rich plank]

The old skin Color’s were nice for carnos, would like to have the black one or close to

[opaque coral]

Oh

[plush narwhal]

In the HT skin creator, how would I change the pattern from pattern 1 to pattern 3? I have the colors I want in my skin down and done, but not the pattern. I can't seem to figure it out and help would be nice.

[ocean totem]

nobody talks about the hardest part about playing deino is eventually the food that falls into your mouth ends up not filling your stomach as you get bigger

[ocean totem]

I can read :(

[frail moon]

i'm not 100% sure but i get the feeling that the first 3 numbers after the species name are the pattern? when testing it with exports i noticed that that number would change

[frail moon]

like 000 for 1 and 001 for 2 etc

[frail moon]

didn't get around to testing it with custom skins though

[lost citrus]

I believe I've seen someone else say that's how it works

[plush narwhal]

thanks!

[idle roost]

no i broke it wait no its playing

[dusty pawn]

Does anyone have a map for the isle evrima

[tiny burrow]

[sterile radish]

yall needa fix the lag on the HT I thought it was fixed last HT ? it is stupid bad

[lucid urchin]

HordeTest is going to be unstable. That's a given in any HT. Just because it was fixed last HT doesn't mean that'll carry over to this one.

[idle roost]

hey lima want to pull a fast one on owl?

[midnight kernel]

a good chunk of the lag on HT is also likely caused by the programs they have watching the servers and collecting data tbh. can't really be avoided

[sterile radish]

They said they worked on the servers last Ht i get it that it will be unstable but lets at the least try

[lucid urchin]

Sure. But like I said, that doesn't guarantee it'll carry over to this HT. Like Keit said, they likely have monitoring systems in place so that they can diagnose any anomalies, etc. for when they bring it over to live branch.

[coarse nimbus]

im pretty sure they did stabilize the servers from last ht but they were broken before the current hordetest because of a massive influx of players so then they had to get more stabilization in place because of that

[tall hamlet]

they did, HT was borderline unplayable with the rubber banding and teleporting but now i can actually play hordetest lol

i was legit logging on, and immediately getting off cause i couldn’t do anything without teleporting around, I actually can play now

[void marlin]

Have I told you guys how much I love The Isle

[coarse nimbus]

yeah it def better now. i know there's been some rollbacks, but that was fixed up pretty well and reduced

the rollbacks every three minutes was a bit intense lol

[tepid mantle]

does anyone main allo and start plaing around this time of day? looking for a buddy

[sterile radish]

Yeah and i get that Im no expert so Im not gonna argue or anything but when people cant fight without lagging back into someones mouth how would you expect for bugs to be caught as often if u can barely fight anything

[lucid urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-white-lotus-white-lotus-stunned-unbelievable-walton-goggins-gif-5311765367933191668

[coarse nimbus]

it's early access. i get it's frustrating but there are multiple warnings that this is a game in development and there will be bugs

[tall hamlet]

I remember i grew a kentro to 50%, killed it cause i wanted to play raptor, logged off and when i woke up i was back on the kentro, then died to an allo and played beipi and when i logged back on i went BACK to the kentro it was wild

[vapid laurel]

Technically, the servers freakin' out on HT is good since they have tools to monitor that stuff.

[silk iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301952642116882432/1356711786165833828/1a716bfc9d223bcd8abcc00a6de324a7571084d9.gif

[sterile radish]

The tools are whats making it lag so they say

[buoyant prawn]

Man I remember para being added to legacy, I still forget it’s technically playable to this day

[compact edge]

just how is HT EU1 still down 🥀 i just wanna play my allo 😭

[timid quarry]

Late to the party but it is time to kentro

[timid quarry]

Stumplecringskin

[idle roost]

rumple i need you to send something to owl or in mod chat

[lean merlin]

Hey i just bought this game because i kept seeing videos about it but it’s confusing 😂 idk how to even play in a server or on my own any help/tips are appreciated lol

[cinder cave]

Hm?

[timid quarry]

Don’t encourage the stumple

[cinder cave]

Swap to Evrima beta branch on steam first off

[coarse nimbus]

dude just ping owl lol

[lucid urchin]

[timid quarry]

Wrong color on lizrd

[cinder cave]

This deserves prison time I think

[coarse nimbus]

@vital onyx

[idle roost]

nuh uh

[leaden cobalt]

Hi

[idle roost]

i dont ping mods. except replies usually

[indigo mountain]

im so glad thats the last thing i see before i go to bed tonight

[vital onyx]

@somber urchin

[timid quarry]

Is this “incompatible version “ in ht a bug? Tried to join a few servers and it’s giving me that message

[idle roost]

make sure you join servers that have hordetest in the name

[timid quarry]

I did

[idle roost]

uh fully close steam and see if theres an update?

[timid quarry]

Joined officials and it’s a no go

[hoary sage]

What's the game version listed in the bottom right of the main menu?

[timid quarry]

I just switched to HT a moment ago so it’s updated

[idle roost]

hmm

[timid quarry]

Let me load the game again

Says 0.21.606

Maybe my steam is being stupid guess I’ll reopen it

[hoary sage]

What's the full name of the server you're trying to join?

[finite monolith]

Gotta make sure the servers say “official hordetesting ____”

[timid quarry]

It was us 1 ht

[finite monolith]

It tripped me up when I first tried as well

[timid quarry]

I know this.

[somber urchin]

10/10

[timid quarry]

Trying us2

[idle roost]

o7

[urban comet]

This image upsets me

[timid quarry]

Apparently us2 ht let me in

[idle roost]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-jurassic-park-whether-gif-23033116

[timid quarry]

Is there a new way to get different colors for the palettes now? It’s so different and no choice since I’ve last played or is that just because it’s ht?

I do like the little dot selector tho to find the exact tone that’s lovely

[glad moth]

How can I only take one hit in spar mode while playing trike?, I accidentally take a long attack and stay stuck in place?

[hoary sage]

Don't double tap LMB

[glad moth]

Sometimes even if I just one click it it still happens

[hoary sage]

@surreal temple Check the pinned messages in #evrima-na #evrima-eu to see how to report hackers, locations must be shared with us privately

[glad moth]

I'm new to the game, do you think I shouldn't play trike? 😄

[idle roost]

words i live by, if you grow a dino, you gotta be ok losing it

i have yet to grow a trike to fg.. just cause i have rotten luck

[urban comet]

Mate honestly. Play what every dinosaur you want. You will never get to play them for the first time again.
If you want today to be your first time being a trike you go and do that mate.
Just be prepared to learn and make mistakes and at the end I know you will have a fully grown Trike to be proud of.

[glad moth]

The only thing that bothers me is that it is really difficult to fight with Rex. I made a long attack by mistake and then the fight ended for me. :/

I see in the videos that people play very well trike 😄

[rich plank]

We’re not seeing it

[glad moth]

It's something that really takes practice.

[hoary sage]

#evrima-eu message

[urban comet]

Who cares about Rex.
Just go out there and have some fun. If you need to hide away from T.Rexs until you feel more confident then hide away.
If you want to get more comfortable with Ceratopsians in General give Diablo a try.

[onyx garnet]

guys! tiny dog in #offtopic-discussion

[lost citrus]

1tinydog

[onyx garnet]

tiniest ive ever seen

[glad moth]

Can it run faster than Diablo

[vital onyx]

so true, who cares about Rex indeed

[glad moth]

I mean If I play Diablo and Rex chases me will I get caught?

[lost citrus]

His point is to go play the game without worrying about matchups

[swift solar]

raptor toggling hacks mid fight is crazy

[lost citrus]

u report them?

[swift solar]

Yeah

Pounced on me one time and they got off, came back to pounce me again and I got pinned by a single raptor as an adult cera

[sand stirrup]

why does pt keep falling out of the sky

I cannot fly over the sanc south of west rail without nose diving into the trees

[somber urchin]

you can report them to alert the official server admins in the regional chats, like #evrima-na or #evrima-eu
instructions are in the pinned messages.

[narrow thorn]

could someone explain elders to me quick? ive been away from the game for about a year, do you have the choice to become elder or is it a forced thing, and how does elder work? do you eventually die or?

[coral canyon]

if you had really low stam or health and it was a prime utah it can happen

[swift solar]

I'm over the islt at this point, my first time back in a couple months and my first day playing I die to a hacker lol, what makes it worse is that my medal recording was on but just didn't record the isle which is great

[crude girder]

It’s forced and you choose when you die of old age at 100% you can sleep and press the entomb button

[lucid urchin]

Clips aren't required. If you give me the details in DMs, I will pass it up.

[swift solar]

Most def was not a prime, it was still very small

[narrow thorn]

ty for replying, do your stats stay the same the whole time as elder, or whats the difference between prime elder/normal elder

[charred holly]

Where is everyone getting the cool skins at

[crude girder]

Prime elders are much stronger and faster, and frail elders (which are normal elder) are much weaker and slower than adults

[cursive rampart]

Seems more like a dodge

[narrow thorn]

huh okay, and ie heard whether or not you become frail or prime is based on how you play as the dino? and when you turn prime elder can you stay as prime elder until you chose to die? or do you lose it or something

[clever jacinth]

Yeah I thought so too but I'm not 100%

[crude girder]

You can stay as a prime elder forever (if you don’t die)

[cloud stump]

100% prime elder tho is weaker than a lot of adults

[crude girder]

You do ‘quests’ for prime but I don’t even bother and just play the game. If I get prime then 👍 if I don’t then oh well

[crude girder]

Damn

[cinder cave]

You guys, is this GPU enough for the isle?

[vast pond]

When do we get the final model appearance and height for prime

[cloud stump]

75% cera is like 39kmh and 150 bite 100% prime cera is bigger but 120 bite and like 36 kmh

[narrow thorn]

wait huhhh, so your dino becomes weaker than adult and you have no choice in it?

[vast pond]

Is it 87,5%?

[cloud stump]

87.5 I think is the absolute peak of a prime dinosaur

[urban veldt]

Best bet is to yt it, if you want better information.

[vast pond]

So we get the final model at this point right

The elder model

[cloud stump]

Once at 100% you can entomb to regrow it with all your current mutations made better with 4 more you can get to keep stacking them

[pliant urchin]

When you entomb (lie down and choose to entomb/die) your current mutations get passed to your next life as if you were nested in. So you can build up a bunch if mutations through multiple lives

[cloud stump]

Yeah 87.5 is the model you’ll die with once you hit it, you never lose the gained size

[cinder cave]

Well well well, if it isn’t crinkle

[crude girder]

Hi criniti

[pliant urchin]

Well well well if it isn't rumply

[river dune]

hey guys does ptera stam still suck?

[cinder cave]

Not near as much as it used to, at least it doesn’t feel like it

[pliant urchin]

Ptera stam has always been fine. It's the regen that's a problem

[ocean gyro]

yo guys, hordetest servers are down?

[narrow thorn]

huh thats crazy, so your forced to eventually give up the dino you grew? or put up with being weaker than an adult? or am i getting that wrong

[oblique geyser]

hi

[cinder cave]

You can choose to entomb or choose to stay weaker than adult, up to you guys

[ocean gyro]

i cant connect on EU1 HT, and for some reason its 0/115...?

[pliant urchin]

You're not forced to give it up but it is encouraged. When you hit 100% you have old man stats

[cloud stump]

Yeah current prime system kinda sucks

[pliant urchin]

Imo it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't kick you in the knees and kill your speed

[narrow thorn]

damn thats kinda a shame, being penalised for sticking with your dino you spent ages growing seems a bit silly in my opinion

[cloud stump]

It just feels like you’re on a time limit, I had a 16 mut cera but I’m almost the same speed as a rex with a 120 bite force

[pliant urchin]

The idea is to continue by stacking up a bunch of mutations becoming stronger in every successive life

[narrow thorn]

feel like giving the choice to become elder and gaining those prime stats for a time and then eventually becoming weaker, or stay as adult would be a better idea

[cinder cave]

You’re encouraged to regrow with your buffed mutations and pick more for your next life

[cloud stump]

You permanently gain more hp, cera is like what 1450 and prime is 1955 kg

[pliant urchin]

I can't wait for sandbox mode

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-give-it-to-me-now-gif-6486247

[cloud stump]

I think it definitely needs a rework because what is there to do after reaching 16 muts

Yeah you have strong muts but I’m still weaker and slower than every other cera that isint 100%

[crude girder]

Strains (someday)

[cloud stump]

I wouldn’t mind if they just scrapped it or didint have the decreased stats after 87.5

[pliant urchin]

People will be happy about strains until they find out how fast they expire

[crude girder]

Oh well!

[midnight kernel]

at 16 muts you have 2 sets of maxed out strength muts and 1 level 2 mut and 1 weak mut row.

2 more entombments and you fully max out. So full strength is actually after 4-5th entomb

[cloud stump]

After 16 aren’t your original 4 lost ?

[midnight kernel]

yes. you re-select them and they come back at a higher potency than before. so instead of 15% fibrosis its 25%

[bitter notch]

How do replays work in unofficial servers for example in mettas den how do i use it

[cloud stump]

I never made it past 16 got pinslopped

[crude girder]

F2 to record

[midnight kernel]

press f2 and youll see a camera in the top left

[crude girder]

And you go to the replays tab in the menu to see your recordings

[bitter notch]

Ty guys i had so many cool moments i couldnt clip since i didnt know

[solar marsh]

is there an unstick command?

[crude girder]

/unstuck

[midnight kernel]

https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/mG3w4ZBl8JU5DXpp_?invite=cr-MSxtU0osMjM4Njc2Njkx&v=215

not my lucky ass avoiding that fate and reversing it on what i think was a prime allo 😂

[opaque coral]

Heck yeah

[solar marsh]

thank you

[sharp pond]

does anyone remember when sandbox got removed during the progression era lol

[crude girder]

Yes

[solar marsh]

its not working

[midnight kernel]

try pressing your tail into wherever the exit is. its not the greatest :/

[gilded horizon]

who is this maia thats been chillin with a sub trike xD

on HT*

[narrow thorn]

what causes infertility on a dino?

[solar marsh]

I got I had to pounce my buddy lol

[crude girder]

Diets going to 0

[pliant urchin]

I still have the meme

[crude girder]

And hitting 100%

[narrow thorn]

ty ty ty ty

[tawny surge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/freddy-bluecollarsponge-withered-7Hk4wyNVxULoAuMQ2l

[crude girder]

11 minutes without a message

[tulip glade]

Dead chat

[little whale]

I called my local church of Scientology and asked them what their favourite dinosaur was

[opaque coral]

What’d they say

[little whale]

They hung up unfortunately but it was a fun use of free will

[crude girder]

@leaden cobalt @tulip glade @somber urchin

[tulip glade]

@crude girder @somber urchin @leaden cobalt

[idle roost]

@idle roost

[little whale]

I may do it again tomorrow

[viral shale]

I should stop looking at steam comments

People get in-depth monthly blogs and still complain

[winged wing]

spare mode + headbutt not working anymore on trike?

[narrow thorn]

is allo the next strongest carni after rex?

[little whale]

Strength is subjective

[narrow thorn]

whats the general consensus

[little whale]

I’ve met Rexes I’ve decimated I’ve met Rexes that decimated me, the general consensus is it’s not the dinosaur that’s powerful it’s the person behind them, play what you like and like what you play

[narrow thorn]

very philosophical, understood

[little whale]

Personally I prefer Allo over Rex because of its bleed hunting playstyle but that’s just me

[narrow thorn]

agreed, does it weigh more than cera etc i assume

[little whale]

Prime Allo is 3.7 tons at 87.5%

[twin badger]

Technically it is, but knowing how to use them to keep surviving for long is peak gameplay

[misty pivot]

hi

[twin badger]

How far do the hi's go back is the real question

[stone anchor]

Guys, do you think stego or trike is the better herbivore?

[twin badger]

https://tenor.com/view/deinocheirus-path-of-titans-dinosaur-primal-carnage-the-isle-gif-22980919

[twin badger]

I would say stego, cause from everything I've seen from yt its just a bruiser to any and everything that walks in its general location

[steel scaffold]

stego seems to far way better against a majority of the roster then trike does so far

[stone anchor]

I see :) ty!

[spring minnow]

Just starting the game, is it better to play official or unofficial servers?

[pliant birch]

unofficials

[misty pivot]

i am consistent

[tulip glade]

how many times have i said austro

[tulip glade]

hmm not good enough

[crude girder]

How many times have I mentioned protoceratops

[void marlin]

How many times have I existed

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-hopping-bear-grizzly-bear-playing-in-snow-gif-15847584769552197262

[void marlin]

Dammit :(

[idle roost]

crazy

[wide condor]

does highland sanc just not work for dibble
i got all my prime reqs but i got frail and my friend told me its bc highland sanc is buggy when it comes to prime reqs

[steel scaffold]

never had highlands sanc fail me

[native edge]

The cheaters are absolutely wild in this game. What's the point of spending literally hours growing just to die to cheaters? At least once or twice a day me and my friends die to cheaters. Yesterday was a deino literally just spawned in and almost 1 tapped my full health 50% allo. Today had a 50% + Rex chase down my full health prime elder allo and 3 tap me out sped me and out stammed me. As 87% prime elder allo I've face tanked multiple 50% Rexes before and barely got to 50% health before dying. I understand the speed of 50% and stamina but 3 tapping me when I was at full health is wild. Not sure what the point of playing is if the cheaters aren't being taken care of.

[steel scaffold]

the zones arent always accurate to whats shown on your scent bar tho, so always make sure to go further in then just having it fill the scent bar

[wide condor]

it’s only failed me as dibble nothing else

[wide condor]

I got stung by bees after redoing it bc the server crashed so I’m pretty sure I got it

[wheat moth]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-cattle-cow-gif-23212465

Sorry - that was my first thought.

[glad wind]

any suggestions on how to get a deino unstuck from between two rocks...?

[wheat moth]

Typing /unstuck in-game should help.

[glad wind]

youre a lifesaver

[wheat moth]

👍

Good luck out there. It's tough for deinos.

[glad wind]

Ive reached 50%, I'll be damned if I die now

[narrow thorn]

anyone know what the dilo changes were? or when they happened so i can check them out

[pliant birch]

they made the venom OP

[narrow thorn]

you remember how long ago it was?

[lyric sable]

same with troodon

[pliant birch]

hordetest.

[narrow thorn]

ahhh i see ty

[sterile gulch]

xd?

[sterile gulch]

what are you doing

[sharp pond]

im sillymaxxing

[misty pivot]

😱

[crude girder]

Stop

[sterile gulch]

xd

[golden thistle]

h

[somber urchin]

i can't believe you would say that.

[neon elk]

oh

[cinder cave]

Hello! Hi! I’m here to cause problems! :333

[crude girder]

Kentrosaurus

[coarse nimbus]

[somber urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/disrespect-your-surroundings-pikachu-pokemon-pokeball-gif-15643865

[idle roost]

what

[somber urchin]

[leaden cobalt]

Hi

[proud forge]

why can i not spearfish as ptera?

[wind acorn]

Can only do it during the daytime after 6:00

[remote sandal]

Hello islanders

[somber ledge]

4:30-20:30 is fishing time. Same for clamming

[somber urchin]

unless they are in hordetest. the times changed, at least in the morning. can fish till 06:00.

[somber ledge]

Oh that must have been a recent change then

[somber urchin]

[worn night]

What I miss

[cinder cave]

We didn’t start the fire

[idle roost]

it was me

[worn night]

Burn them AT THE STAKE. Wait who we burning and why

[cinder cave]

Dracula’s wife cause she’s a witch

This can only end well

[idle roost]

i dont think thats a good idea

[hoary sage]

@magic marsh Check the pinned messages in #evrima-na to see how to report hackers, skins must be shared with us privately

[misty pivot]

don't say his name

[warm plank]

no way this carno killed my pack escept me

they keep walking over me

[light cradle]

^ omni pack play

[visual marten]

who wins carno v cerato?

[light cradle]

cerato cause fat brawler

[paper willow]

Allo should get a stamina nerf, but a Speed Buff

Change my mind

[leaden cobalt]

I didn’t do it

[light cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[lost musk]

again? no way

[viral shale]

No lol

[paper willow]

Tbh i think they should start from carno and give allthe speedsters a SLIGHT 1-2 KPH Increase

Simply so the CIELING Can give more playroom for stuff like Allo getting thise changes

[pine perch]

Anyone found a way to use a different pattern than pattern 1 when importing a skin?

[lost musk]

the last thing allo needs is a buff man idk what to tell you

[viral shale]

Remove dinosaur name from skin code
Replace "000" in the beginning with either 111 or 211

[narrow thorn]

whats allos growth time?

[pine perch]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-jack-black-awkward-gif-4691467854324958416

[paper willow]

Ive been thinking abt it, and allo's machine gun bite isn't its largest issue. the thing can attrition hunt better than omni rn and i feel its Not Okay

needs to be more Bursty imo, just not 100% Ambush

[viral shale]

Like 2h 30

[lost musk]

its fast enough already for sure

we shouldnt buff other stuff so allo can get buffed, thats how powercreep starts

[latent thicket]

Can you still make fancy skins on HT

[paper willow]

It does come down to personal opinion at the end of the day

I just feel like they need to give the speedy guys More wiggle room for the roster to eventualy set in

The Max speed is currently carno and idk if 60 is the right cieling. May just be me

[latent thicket]

Can some1 answer this yes or no question

[rancid plaza]

stamina nerf isn't going to affect it since you already trot fast, its just gonna be allos tracking things down better

[charred root]

IMO all of allos attacks are pretty op which I think is the main problem

Its bite speed is so insane it can facetank some things it should not be in certain scenarios
Its claw attack does insane bleed to the point where it only takes 1-2 to kill a lot of things if you keep them moving (which in this games combat if you are not moving you die most of the time)
And pounce (at least on live build) can just go through things head and latch on and its not hard to do a group pin with it

Pretty much all the attacks are insane on their own but it has all of them for whatever situation it needs lol

[snow jungle]

just don't face tank it then

[craggy ridge]

I feel like I'm the only one who has never struggled to survive in a world of Allos

[viral shale]

🐟

[charred root]

Some of the things it can do that with don't control that but fair for the most part

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf I don’t see Allo as an animal that sits there and bites you to death

[pine summit]

Powercreep iirc?

[manic fulcrum]

Allo shouldn’t really ever want to facetank anything that isn’t drastically smaller than it

[viral shale]

The bite speed encourages face tanking

[manic fulcrum]

Sadly

[snow jungle]

also face tanking as allo melts the allo's hp aswell (wrong ping)

[dusty pawn]

I hatched in as a galli and found out I had no father just a mother and apparently I have 7 siblings

[pine summit]

It should be agile not fast, like legacy giga
Its main point is his bite cooldown, hit and run doesnt fit in

[manic fulcrum]

Allos bite speed def needs to be slowed down

[charred root]

I used to like playing diablo but allo being added has kind of ruined that for me. Its just not a fun fight and the difference in power of allos kit and diablos is pretty insane

[craggy ridge]

What is Allo facetanking and winning against that it shouldn't?

[pine summit]

I agree

[lost musk]

maia, dibble

[pine summit]

An 20-25% change is fine

[charred root]

I have seen clips of maias and diablo getting face tanked. Which to be fair you can stun the allo get a hit and move out of the way and then stun again but I just don't think they should be able to do that in the first place. Like why is allo able to face tank something with a shield for a face

[craggy ridge]

Maia really shouldn't be punching all that equal to an Allo... Maia hilariously out speeds and out trots if Prime.

Ive personally never lost against an Allo as Dibble so idk if I really agree with that

[charred root]

Also yeah I just don't fight allos as maia so I don't see maias matchup as much of a problem. Its mostly diablo and probably kentro (no allos exist when I play kentro for some reason)

[pine summit]

I agree on maia thought

[lost musk]

maia is 4 tons, against something half its size, it should win in a FACE TANK

im fine with an allo being able to win with actual skill and wit with its attacks, but not in a damn facetank?? where the allo just stands there spamming one button and winning? its braindead

[viral shale]

Kentro

[lost musk]

that too

[pine summit]

12 tones rexes runs at 40 km/h, well, realism isnt what we should base ourself on

[craggy ridge]

Eh. You can stun and run worst case as Maia. Its really not that hard

Plus saying Allo is half Maias size is a bit of an exaggeration

[lost musk]

where did i mention ANYTHING about realism here?

all i said is that allo should involve more skill into killing something like a maia

[pine summit]

"Somenthing half the weight of X thing shouldnt be able to facetank it" thats not how it works

[craggy ridge]

I can't say that Ive confidently fought any super sweat Allos as Dibble considering the average skill level of The Isle players but ive been able to consistently beat Allos as Dibble without it feeling all that problematic. Maybe I'm missing something

[snow jungle]

3.8t maias used to regularly run from ceratos if there was more than like 2 so it makes sense allo is able to do this

[lost musk]

why are you so fine with FACETANKS being the standard? in a game where your knowledge, skill and experience matters more than anything, youre able to just sit in one place and spam lmb to win rather than use what youve learned over time?

THINK, FACETANKING?

allo can solo maia im fine with that, but for gods sake not by being this braindead?

[craggy ridge]

If you let an Allo face tank you as a Maia, you're not playing Maia correctly

[pine summit]

If maia can facetank the allosaurus they will just swap places, and he can only facetank you to death if you facetank him too

[craggy ridge]

You have literally every tool available to you to stun and get away as Maia (assuming Maia and Allo are both Adults)

[lost musk]

thats the problem

its the fact that allo can facetank at all, nothing should be able to facetank anything and win, especially if its larger than it

[pine summit]

If you choose to facetank the DPS guy, you should've lost, maia also have alot of fight control

[halcyon dove]

Maia dibble kentro sub trike(lol)

[lost musk]

poa please help me

idk how you guys think its normal for allo to be able to facetank at all

[manic fulcrum]

I like Ava

[craggy ridge]

This is just going in circles lol

[charred root]

I am not believing sub trike cause there is no way it cant just knock an allo over and 1 shot it with thrash

[snow jungle]

cause you're moving raptor speeds as maia so facetanking is bad decision making

[pine summit]

If allo doesnt win in a facetank, maia will
And them they will just swap places, its fairer for allosaurus to win because he's the DPS guy

[halcyon dove]

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.

They’ll understand when it happens to them

[halcyon dove]

Broskittle, just how heavy do you think sub trike is? Or are you not aware just how horrible trikes thresholds are?

[sterile gulch]

kentro, false, sub trike, false, maia depends because he can run or do his best attack (500) allo can facetank you only if YOU want, and dibble I dont test it but iI think if you play in defense-agresive you should win.

[native ibex]

I like Ava too...

[lost musk]

"hes the dps guy" why do you think that? hes meant to be a bleeder not a facetanking braindead "dps guy"

[charred root]

Sub trike is like 3-4 tons right? Idk everytime I see a subtrike fight allos they just flip it and then its dead or get pinned by a group of allos

[sterile gulch]

stego is a dps guy bleeder, why cant allo be like stego lol

[halcyon dove]

That ain’t a sub trike, sub weighs 3.5 and trike has a 0.75x threshold on its sprint lmb for flipping stuff. Hold lmb is like 0.45x or something

[craggy ridge]

As an adult/Prime, Maia is literally free from any Allo encounter bar group ambush.

You outrot and out sprint Allo as Maia; being bigger, in this instance, does not equal a more capable combatant. Its like saying a Dairy Cow should always win a 'face tank' against a Tiger cause its heavier, its just not sound reasoning.

[snow jungle]

technically sub trike is 9.4T and below till 3t

[halcyon dove]

Adult starts at 62.25% or something

[sterile gulch]

It only weighs 3.5 for a short stage, then it changes. Do you really think they should nerf a dino just because the trike's sub stage can't kill it (which it can)?

[craggy ridge]

I am so sad to hear that Trike stun thresholds have not been buffed in HT

[snow jungle]

I did not know this. its at least in the 7t or 8t range by then though

[sterile gulch]

its buffed

[craggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[halcyon dove]

62% is 6.2 tons or so I believe

[sterile gulch]

Now the trike can stun the rex without needing to run

[manic fulcrum]

The reason stego has to be is because cause stego is slow as molasses and has to contend with apexs

Allo isn’t that. It’s fast, nimble & can easily avoid or bleed most of the things it doesn’t wanna fight

[snow jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/close-enough-close-enough-futurama-poker-gif-16458871857095396338

[craggy ridge]

But can Trike stun above its weight like Dibble??

[manic fulcrum]

Allo doesn’t need the dps

[charred root]

Either way I don't really care about the balance of not fully grown animals because most of the balance on them sucks lol. Like why is maia sooooo slow for most of its growth but baby trike feels like its ZOOMING

[sterile gulch]

can stun the rex

[halcyon dove]

ye fresh adult trike is 6416.666667 at 62.5%, by then it can kill an allo cus it can flip it..... if the allo chooses to get infront of you anyway lol

[tender obsidian]

whats the server that allows you to do proximity chat

[snow jungle]

its good to have though, and useful against cera packs

[pine summit]

He's an bleeder but also DPS, he doesnt fullfill a single role
Allosaurus has low base damage but high attack speed
Maia is an speedster with good fight control
He has good mobility, stuns and such

And it's difficult for Allo to reach a point where he can facetank Maiasaura, the maiasaura needs to be really bad, but he will try to facetank as much as he can, and if he loses in a facetank, it means that maia wins, how is it fairer for maia to win?

[halcyon dove]

people say its buffed but ive yet to experience it. I was in sanc as a juv trike at ~120kg and my sprinting lmb didnt stun a cera of similar size

so im pretty sure the "trike was buffed" enjoyers are on trust me bro sources

[charred root]

I think juvi ceras are way heavier then they appear

[lost musk]

ok let me get this straight to you

allo shouldnt be able to facetank and win
maia shouldnt be able to facetank and win
NOTHING IN THE GAME SHOULD EVER RELY ON A FACETANK.

please try to understand my damn point

[craggy ridge]

I pray/crave for Trike being able to stun 1.5x its own body weight.

[manic fulcrum]

Maybe for that scenario. But maybe you just don’t wanna get found by a Cerato pack to begin with

Allos dps bite just shuts down so much that it doesn’t even need to bleed

[halcyon dove]

they aint, everything's model matches weight now

[gritty hamlet]

sub trike demolishes allo 😭 i agree on the others tho

[manic fulcrum]

Why bleed a Maia when I can juke around and machine gun it with my bites

[halcyon dove]

im pretty sure i posted it, let me find the vid of a allo face tanking me lol

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh allos bite just seems like it wasn’t ever properly set up

[pine summit]

Allo wont win agaisnt a maia unless BOTH are facetanking, if maia plays well, he will win agaisnt a facetanking allo.

[halcyon dove]

god i love allo

[lost musk]

allo either gets a bite speed nerf to be between cera and rex's OR keeps the bite speed and gets its damage halved

[manic fulcrum]

Let’s be honest here. No one who has a brain will facetank. Because baiting attacks is safer

A somewhat confident Allo will just use its mobility to bait attacks and proceed to use openings to bite speed you to death

[scenic bolt]

hey im trying to connect Mumble for the bosh server I need help

[halcyon dove]

go to their discord server n ask for help

[manic fulcrum]

Just making it the same as ceratos speed would be fine

[wheat moth]

Being able to bite over ceratopsians' heads makes me sad...

[gritty hamlet]

face pounce dmg is bugged theyll fix that but it is wild that allo can do 400dmg facepounce

[snow jungle]

they run faster than you and are much more present on the map than allos due to them being easy to grow and keep alive. if they nerf the bite speed they'll just have to give allo a higher bf which is weird and I'd rather keep the current version (also if a maia choses to face tank an allo its their problem when they have the option to control the fight or just leave it in the dust)

[scenic bolt]

@halcyon dove where do I find that?

[halcyon dove]

cant wait for ava to get mauled cus of it

[wheat moth]

[gritty hamlet]

nerf the dmg to 145-130

[halcyon dove]

i aint a clue, im not in that server. https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/823624179399524402 check in here maybe?

[snow jungle]

every time I see these clips the allo is on like 2hp after face tanking which is why it makes me think its just a skill issue atp 💔

[charred root]

I don't think ava is ever going to be fighting allos but thats just my opinion but we shall see

[lost musk]

how do you guys underestimate allos strength THIS bad??

like seriously what the heck- if you claw attack a maia TWICE thats already its ability to run away taken from it because of how absurd your bleed is, and god forbid you continue to pounce or claw even more

allo does NOT NEED TO BE ABLE TO FACETANK

[vague onyx]

tiny ass sub vs peak prime isn't a great comparison, what was ur % / weight?

[halcyon dove]

why would it fight allos? its an ava lmao. im talking about fighting anything in its size range. cus its so small having anything bite past its head will be devastating

[craggy ridge]

I think its crazy how Allo is seen as the problem when Rex is an overtuned disaster

[snow jungle]

me when I posses this information as a player and chose to engage with an allo as an animal that prefers fleeing

[manic fulcrum]

Allos claw attack does like (roughly) 300ish damage (might be higher) and does MASSIVE bleed. Even with ceratos bleed res. You can easily force one to back off

There comes a point where you are just outnumbered by a significant amount, you are faster than Prime Cerato & elder Allo is far bigger than adult Ceratos

[gritty hamlet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kizaru-borsalino-10

[lost musk]

theyre both awful

[lost musk]

holy point evasion

[charred root]

Ah ok I thought we were talking about allos fighting things still lol

[halcyon dove]

i was a sub trike lol, people said allo cant facetank sub trike. it can.

allo face tanks prime dibble too, im not finding my clip of it again lol

[manic fulcrum]

It’s like a Cerato being swarmed by 3 carnos. At some point you just shouldn’t be seen to begin with

The same applies with Allo & ceratos

[lost musk]

if an allo tries to facetank a prime dibble, imo it shouldnt even be close

[manic fulcrum]

Because in this game, numbers are huge. Being alone against a group is always going to be harder

[halcyon dove]

the guy in that clip was a better representation of what you would see on average in a normal survival server. i had one dude facetank my sub trike and live on 30% hp WITH me ripping a desperation thrash right before i died

without the thrash i woulda died and they had ~45% hp left lmao

[gritty hamlet]

i lowk agree icl but allo facetanking dibble kentro is rly bad rn since they cannot run away

[neon elk]

yay

[lost musk]

honestly yeah, thats kind of how the game works and theres not much you can stop that

[manic fulcrum]

Pretty much

[charred root]

Rex is annoying but for the most part if you don't play stego/trike/rex you dont have to deal with it. Allo is fast enough to force interactions on a lot of things making it a bit more annoying

[manic fulcrum]

Like Cerato has bleed res. But Allo claw swipe does so much bleed it won’t matter once you get hit 2-3 times. It’s enough to back off

[gritty hamlet]

im pretty sure rex and trike are getting balance changes this ht once the bugs are fixed

[lost musk]

exactly

[snow jungle]

well you were a sub trike so I don't think its valid to nerf an allo based off an apex in its smaller stage, they could just buff dibble though

[halcyon dove]

apparently cera's bleed res doesnt get reduced to 30% at 50% hp anymore lmao

cera just walks around with an innate 60% bleed res all the time

[oblique stone]

500 Cerato Buffs

[buoyant prawn]

Id argue both dib and trike need a buff

[manic fulcrum]

I see. Doesn’t Allo claw swipe also do like 300 damage?

[gritty hamlet]

cera just keeps getting buffed holy

[halcyon dove]

i dont know the correct decision of nerfing or buffing. i was just providing a video of allo indeed face tanking a sub trike

[gritty hamlet]

its 250 i think

[oblique stone]

Does this mean it can just Tank Kentro Bleed Damage?

[halcyon dove]

allo claw is 287.5, something like 1.2k bleed if that hasnt been changed

[gritty hamlet]

yea its bleed

[vague onyx]

Sub trike is very vague, I'm guesing you were about the same weight as the allo? Pre-50% trike is in a pretty bad spot I'd say but most playables are underpowered at that stage

[manic fulcrum]

I’d go as far as to give Allo a stationary claw slash if we nerf its machine bite

That’s fine, as long as it’s not biting faster than dilo

[lost musk]

like allo shouldnt be able to do this period

[halcyon dove]

boy do i have a clip for you. one second

@vague onyx i was 3.5 tons with 432 bite force lol and a shield for a face

[manic fulcrum]

Also, the hatchet bite is strong too

[wraith sand]

it's more that frontal grapple that's annoying

[oblique stone]

Cerato is just a Bulked Up Menace at this Point.

[snow jungle]

why?

[lost musk]

hes not even trying

im here sweating my ass off and hes just sitting with a bucket of popcorn spamming one singular button and pounce

[halcyon dove]

@oblique stone this is with cong too lol, this is also a cut fight, i slapped this allo once with a ps before clip starts

[lost musk]

i swear ive seen this clip on yt like twice now lol

[halcyon dove]

that other kentro is ~1800kg im at 100% 1950kg

[manic fulcrum]

This was a neat Allo fight I had. I bled out a Kentro with 4-5 claw swipes

[halcyon dove]

i guess people took my clip in feedback and posted it lol

[buoyant prawn]

I love watching the agile bleeder predator brute force its way through a fight with an animal built specifically for defense

[oblique stone]

That Grapple Mechanic looks so weird clawing at Nothing.

[lost musk]

lmao seeing it flop over is funny

[wheat moth]

Not extensive, but this would be nice in the future.

[snow jungle]

the immediate one call lmao

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah turns out the other Kentro was an esp hacker. He followed me for 40 min before I was forced to fight him. I died but he bled out https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1155973027322933248/1503820777848443130/20260512130626_1.jpg?ex=6a0ca6bd&is=6a0b553d&hm=dad54f4965cf37cd1a32c4464d1a1cc233275fcd7b3ebde389b16ee99d6c1546&

[lost musk]

LOL

[vague onyx]

ah ok so you were 50% it sounds like, which almost perfectly matches the weight of the prime allo. I think allo should def get a bite rate reduction but I think you probably wouldve won thrash spamming

[halcyon dove]

i want to run hypervil but it would seem cong tact epid and traum are indeed required to survive lol

[fair latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1489855044542009514/20251130_161838.gif

Him*

[wheat moth]

I can't not hear the Tidus laugh when I see this gif.

[manic fulcrum]

Oh yeah, he also had that other Kentro I killed go troodon, till he was big enough to envenomate me and make me blind. That’s when I had to just go guns blazing

[pearl creek]

I hate allo so much almost purely bc of this

[thorny karma]

Is it normal to not see anything at night as dilo with nightvision on?

[blazing jolt]

The fact rex can currently headbut a trike in its horns and walk way fine is so funny to me

[halcyon dove]

nah, if i ripped a thrash i get locked in place for ~5-6seconds. it takes me ~3-4 seconds to turn around. i hit the allo with the first part of thrash if i get lucky, which deals 960 dmg. then i die. because the allo runs behind me and bites me to death lol

[manic fulcrum]

I run it on Gali

[oblique stone]

Your Sacrifice was Honored against the Plagues of Code.

[thorny karma]

Ummm

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/decepticons-attack-optimus-prime-starscream-megatron-grindor-gif-7196294323625425573

That’s how I felt

[wheat moth]

It bothers me a lot, and I don't like playing ceratopsians.

Realistically, that should lobotomise the rex.

[gritty hamlet]

carno too on a sub trike

[lost musk]

in my opinion, a trike shouldnt often worry about a single rex if it isnt bigger than it

hunting a trike as a rex should be WAY riskier and more of a "one mess up could cost you the entire fight" type deal

[oblique stone]

Trike NEEDS that Defensive Stance Tbh.

[gritty hamlet]

carno also needs a lil nerf to the standstill charge the free stuns are a bit too much imo

[snow jungle]

no rex is just too agile

[oblique stone]

Oh.

[lost musk]

rex is OP and trike is garbage

[halcyon dove]

you dont understand, trike eats grass and can be killed at any point in its life by a majority of the roster and therefore rex should easily 1v1 it by winning with only 1 crush

[manic fulcrum]

Honestly yeah. Rex seems more like the problem imo

Granted, trike could use some buffs

[oblique stone]

500 Rex Nerfs

[snow jungle]

its not that bad i've killed rexes bigger than me as trike before

[lost musk]

trash rexes im sorry

[halcyon dove]

i will never understand why they made crush's cd line up with trikes stun animation. hurdur let me crush/bite into another free crush/bite putting trike only 1 crush away from leg break where its helpless. wonderful idea.

[vague onyx]

so, it would have stopped being a facetank then? I think the fight would be much more winnable if you would prevent a facetank with thrash then alt attack, trike is definitely pretty stinky pre-adult

[viral shale]

Fight one good rex with a brain, not people who don't know how to play the thing

[lost musk]

theres literally no way you lose to a trike smaller than you as a rex because it cant even stun you while you can easily pin it

[halcyon dove]

brother, if i thrashed then alt attacked that allo would of killed me before i got it to 70% hp

[lost musk]

also at some point in a hotfix they made rex's crush cooldown from like 4 seconds to just 2 💔

[snow jungle]

I did use the environment but my friend taught me a combo a few hours earlier and it was easy ngl I didn't even get to orange

[halcyon dove]

i refuse to believe crush isnt still a 3 sec cd

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh I just dislike trikes over reliance on thrash. It should be able to dish out a bit more damage with its other attacks, & in return maybe nerf the thrash a smidge

Also maybe not make it turn like a cruise ship

[lost musk]

you said it yourself lol, by the time the trike is out of the stun animation its already crushed AGAIN

[gritty hamlet]

once you learn how to rotate with trike you can kill good rexes trike has the highest skill ceiling ingame imo

[halcyon dove]

thrash is useless to begin with, inorder for thrash to do a damn thing trike has to be able to flip whatever its fighting. but trike has a 0.75x flip on its sprint lmb. which means you can only thrash things you dont even need to thrash lol

[wheat moth]

Sprint-skidding?

[snow jungle]

telling people its really not that hard

[viral shale]

Are you trying to say drifting

[wheat moth]

Or 'drifting', I suppose

Yeah.

[halcyon dove]

ah yes i just LOVE spamming slide while i mash lmb ctrl lmb sprint lmb over and over. so skill expressive. so skillful.

[gritty hamlet]

if u mess up and give a rex ur back then ur dead

[lost musk]

what trike, the beast built for defense and power, has to do to stand a chance against a rex, that just uses one button and twirls around you the entire fight:

[manic fulcrum]

I swore trikes cc was buffed in HT? Was it not?

[snow jungle]

yeah you're probably cooked but thats why you don't let that happen xD

[halcyon dove]

trike played optimally looks like a headless chicken with adhd, and it still loses lol

[halcyon dove]

all ive seen are "trust me bro" comments with 0 proof. i played juv trike in sanc and was not stunning things near my weight

[lost musk]

also poa did you get a new pfp lmao

[neon elk]

sometimes

[halcyon dove]

it was stego, changed to kentro day 1 of ht

[gritty hamlet]

tbf thats the only good thing about trike thrash is too slow and predictable gouge is buns to much endlag on it and the standing flip doesnt do much

[halcyon dove]

itll change to anky.... if im not dead by the time its out lol

[lost musk]

never say that

[neon elk]

never say never

[gritty hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/isn't-that-concerning-bruh-gif-8817555092448462829

[lost musk]

ill release anky today

[snow jungle]

aren't you saying never right now?

[neon elk]

i think we all just said never

[snow jungle]

💔

[manic fulcrum]

At the very least trike should be able to stun things a bit bigger than it. I don’t want 2X like dibble has (had???) but like a 1.25X stun range wouldn’t hurt

[tall hamlet]

is this satire

[lost musk]

dont think so, its in the feedback lol

[tall hamlet]

that is insane

[manic fulcrum]

Which would mean it staggers full prime Rex tbf. If you are still adult

[neon elk]

if you were an isle developer, what would you change

[manic fulcrum]

Migrations

[halcyon dove]

at bare minimum it needs to be able to at least defend itself in spar at some damn point in its life. itd need a 1.3 for a adult trike to stun a prime rex

[lost musk]

thats fine, trike should be able to push around stuff like rex with ease

[neon elk]

why not world hunger, hm

[manic fulcrum]

Fair

[gritty hamlet]

is that acc true

[lost musk]

world hunger

[manic fulcrum]

Because isle devs can’t fix that sadly

[neon elk]

why not cancer

[wheat moth]

Quetzalcoatlus still not being in the game.

[halcyon dove]

idk trike should prob have a 1.3 to 1.45 stun and if we're balancing trike around its thrash its flip threshold need to be increase to like 0.85 or 0.9x

[cursive orbit]

reintroduce world hunger

[snow jungle]

I'd just move spino to top priority along with bary, and change the colors to how they were pre-maia

[neon elk]

how do you know if you haven't tried

[halcyon dove]

you bet your sweet ass rex players would think twice about fighting a trike if they thought it could flip them over

[lost citrus]

just in humans, or in general

also does that also mean the treatments are cheap

[gritty hamlet]

Make rex 50 tons 150% Bleed res give it 200k frac dmg laser eyes and the ability to climb and also make it 65kmh

[tall hamlet]

Nerf allo bite speed, Nerf its Speed slightly and Change grapple to a latch mechanic.

Nerf Rex juvi speed , restrict its diet.

Hypsi rework, Spit now doesn’t take hunger and is instead on a 5 second cooldown, no longer caused hypsi to halt and rework hypsi climbing

Teno, Minor speed increase and changed to semi-aquatic

[snow jungle]

why nerf juvie rex speed?

[tall hamlet]

juvi rex can hit up to 55MPH

[lost musk]

i wish it could i really wish

rex shouldnt even prioritize trikes its size, as the "king of the dinosaurs" rex only picked on smaller meals that were easier and safer to just crush and eat, not fully grown triceratops that could lobotomize you in a second

[snow jungle]

57 and only for a short time

[manic fulcrum]

The things I’d do for trike is

1: increase its CC a smidge to let it do something to prime Rex

2: increase its damage all around on attacks other than thrash. Those spears should hurt (plus reflective damage soon)

3: CC on alt attacks

4: increase the base turn rate a bit. It really doesn’t need to be this slow turning now that we have animals designed to hunt it

[halcyon dove]

sucks tho, trike is a herb so it wont happen

[pearl creek]

Ragebait used to be believable

[lost musk]

DUDE YES idk why its damage is so negligible for literal spears being shoved out the other side of your body, why does everyone disagree with that?

[halcyon dove]

CC on alt attacks wouldnt do anything because crush, like pounce, vanishes your attacks

[manic fulcrum]

Idk man, Pachy can stun on its alt attacks, why can’t trike?

[tall hamlet]

57 is worse, and also rex shouldn’t be anywhere near that fast lol. That’s faster than omni and rex is too much of a powerhouse to ever need to reach that speed. Once you hit juvi as a rex you’re pretty much manhandling most mid-tiers

[halcyon dove]

before we put stun on it we need to make trikes alt attacks actually hit stuff behind it lol. have you ever tested that hitbox? its... something else.

[lost musk]

hot take sort of, but rex shouldnt be able to stun trike with a crush

maybe if we could just have knockback where it can move the trike around a bit or throw it off, but a whole stun looking like it just got rammed by a landslide is a bit much

[manic fulcrum]

Fair

[neon elk]

why would you remove an entire star sign!!

[halcyon dove]

trike cant hit a cera underneath its tail, lol. sub trike cant hit a omni unless its stuck on its model

[manic fulcrum]

Honestly another CC variation of knockback would be nice

[halcyon dove]

i dont even know if its possible for a prime trike to actually hit a omni with its alt

[wheat moth]

I know I'd certainly stagger if someone slashed my sides. It is a bit off that trike can't do that on an alt attack.

[lost musk]

ceratopsian block should be like this, i dont know why it isnt, but defense is USELESS right now and its annoying

[snow jungle]

huh?? juvie rex goes down immediately after 900kg and at that size its not manhandling mid tiers, 1.5T rex is around 50 but it still gets turned into a plate by ceras

[halcyon dove]

i dunno, eventually the herb pop will drop so low that maybe theyll think there's a problem and revise herb balance. or they wont. who knows.

[wheat moth]

I think this is a universal issue with head-tracking.

[tall hamlet]

if you’re losing to a cera on rex then idk what to tell you icl

[lost musk]

sparring and RMB defense completely disables head tracking

[lost musk]

this aint even balance anymore, its just bias

[snow jungle]

I think you're underestimating how strong a cera or 2 is to a rex thats 2.9t and below

[timber iris]

Has hordtest not wiped in a while?

[tall hamlet]

Idk, if they’re 2 maybe but that’s just a case of getting swarmed but solo? i’ve killed ceras before as juvi rex

[wheat moth]

Oh. Odd... I know all playables currently have a about a 45 degree window where the head doesn't follow the camera.

[halcyon dove]

wish i had that picture of stego starving in a forest cus it cant graze lol

[tall hamlet]

you’re much faster than them it’s very easy to bait the bite out

[snow jungle]

Jesus what ceras are you fighting and was it recently?

[lost musk]

what? 😭

[tall hamlet]

it was a few days ago actually i’ve been trying to grow a FG rex so I can best but the rollbacks put me back on kentro😭

[halcyon dove]

pretty much sums up herbs balance rn

[lost musk]

its just a 180 radius infront of you where your head follows your camera

looking further than 180 behind you and the camera is just stuck looking to the right/left

[manic fulcrum]

I mean there’s a lot of herbivores I think are fine where they are. Maia, Gali (yes it’s a herbivore change my mind), Pachy, Teno.

Stuff like hypsi and dryo really just need to be finished (everything about hypsi is so unreliable)

Trike & Dibble need help

Stego I can’t tell if it’s struggling or not cause it’s so polarizing

[lost musk]

LMAOOO I LOVE THIS

[snow jungle]

idk whos getting clapped by a juvie rex as a cera but that shouldn't be possible 💔

[halcyon dove]

stego exposes all the prime rexes with manual alt bite still off

[wheat moth]

I didn't think anyone remembered that

[manic fulcrum]

With current patrols? Food is endless. You just never have enough due to trike being the consumer and plant values being wack

[halcyon dove]

its joke about balance, not the food in this case

[manic fulcrum]

Oh lol nvm then

[lost musk]

stego is actually the only viable AND fun herbivore right now imo

its balanced i'd say, rex is just too strong

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah

[lost citrus]

Herbivores can't eat any plant around them in real life

[halcyon dove]

viable might be stretching it. stego is a walking meal until it hits 9.3tons, and then it slows down to 25kmh to become a walking meal again lmao

[manic fulcrum]

Like trike and dibble are the only herbivores I’d say are in a “bad spot because they are just not balanced right”

Hypsi and dryo aren’t balanced cause they are simply unfinished

[tall hamlet]

Rex just shouldn’t be 57KM fast at any stage ngl lmao, it’s already a very overtuned dino in general which like whatever but the fact that it’s as fast as it is wild. It’ll prob be better when other dino’s get buffed/reworked or we have a bigger roster but it just makes no sense for it to be that fast

[halcyon dove]

rex infinite stun combo of doom is quite fun to play against.

god forbid you fight 2 rex's as a stego you literally just get passed around in crush pin cus it doesnt have a cd

[lost musk]

you know, they were and still are balanced against their biggest predator being CERATO right?

[manic fulcrum]

Also beipi is….fine I guess. Wouldn’t mind a slight weight increase to fit its slap playstyle

[mighty lake]

why not? doesn't herbivore mean you eat vegetables

[manic fulcrum]

They are balanced around a world filled with smaller predators by being damage sponges

That doesn’t work with allosaurus and Rex

[lost musk]

hmm thats true i guess

seemed pretty strong as a sub at least

[wheat moth]

People have been asking for a nerf to the duration of the murder sprint. That could be enough without hamstringing it.

[tall hamlet]

please don’t buff beipi until i get to play austro for a few weeks first. If i get bullied on austro by a single beipi i might quit😭

[lost musk]

meh austro will be bullied by beipi regardless, at least by bleed

[tall hamlet]

nah they said it would take a group of beipi’s in the devblog

[manic fulcrum]

The reason dibble and trike were fine beforehand, is because they simply didn’t have large predators. They were designed for a roster without them

[wheat moth]

Ah, but you're forgetting...

The Pounce!

[lost musk]

where?

[snow jungle]

i've seen multiple prime rexes crush a stego and make sure to blind it by fracturing its head and then all one call repeatedly before murdering it, rex is a funny creature

[halcyon dove]

ex goes 168.66 meters in its murder sprint, then can go 655.9 more meters for a total of 824.56 meters 100 to 0 stam

dibble can go 150 meters in 15sec assuming an average speed of 36 across its life. meaning a 18.66 meter instant kill range

kentro goes about ~35kmh on average(29kmh frail prime lmao, for whatever damn reason) so 145.8333 meters in 15sec or a 22.8267 instant kill range

stego goes about 29.5 on average(ignoring the 25kmh frail prime) thats 122.916666 meters in 15 secs, so a 45.743334 meter range, but stego is slower. so, how far away does stego need to be assuming it has full stam? rex has a total 824.56 meter range, stego in 70sec would travel 573.611108 meters compared to rex's 655.9 meters. that means stego would have to be 128.032226 meters away. 128 meters. lol.

Trikes just dead, lol.

it would certainly help these numbers, cutting murder sprint to 7.5sec would increase the instant death threshold of doom and "can i regen enough stam after running in a straight line to once again run in a straight line before rex catches up?

[manic fulcrum]

Ok poa

[lost musk]

exactly, and now that with larger predators they didnt even get buffs, thats stupid

[tall hamlet]

it said to watch out for angry beipi groups or a croc.

I honestly doubt they’d make austro just get mauled by a singular beipi

[manic fulcrum]

Murder sprint should only be like 5 seconds change my mind

[tall hamlet]

a lot of herbivores have been struggling to deal with rex and allo as well, it’s kinda wild NOBODY got a buff to deal with them

[manic fulcrum]

Ehh Kentro does well

Maia does fine too. Since it can just run away (though Allo bite speed silly)

[halcyon dove]

you think? i had to logout against a rex yesterday because i couldnt get far enough away

[manic fulcrum]

Was it a prime Rex?

[tall hamlet]

m&m cookies might be the best thing to exist

[halcyon dove]

looked like it. i was also luckily at my fastest speed cus i just hit sub

im like 90% sure the colgate colossus was hacking tho lol

[tall hamlet]

kentro just got a buff to compensate for how bad it was doing previously

[wheat moth]

I enjoy reading statistics like this. There's a lot of variables in-game to consider, but this does put into perspective how much of an endurance hunter an adult rex is for an ambush predator.

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah prime Rex in general is way overtuned

[zinc nymph]

triceratops be like...

[mortal glen]

Me panacking to Beipi is so ridiculous, please fix it 😛

[lost musk]

couldve at least rounded out the numbers

[halcyon dove]

ive yet to see a rex player actually ambush anything. all they do is walk around in the open and press spacebar at the first sight of anything

[snow jungle]

just tell the rexes to wait 4 more hours so you can entomb silly

[halcyon dove]

rounding? in this economy?

[manic fulcrum]

Imo, anything growing into basically another weightclass as an elder needs to have some meaningful changes to fit that new size

Why does Maia need to run Carno speed at elder? While being 5.4T

Why does elder Rex exist the way it does

[sharp pond]

austro 1 taps beipi no diff

[halcyon dove]

im the black path, the orange is what i assume the rex path is. i hate how i cant play the same game as rex without logging out

[lost musk]

damn this is sad tho

[halcyon dove]

stegos is hilarious to me

[olive field]

its pretty cool when they do ambush something though

[manic fulcrum]

I see

[tall hamlet]

i’m aware but this was before the latest devblog so i’m assuming they changed its numbers after this statement was made. A similar statement was made about austro losing to troodon and that was ridiculous

[crude girder]

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[wheat moth]

[halcyon dove]

yeh, but the tools for ambush need to actually be used for ambush and not running crap down i thinks

[lost musk]

if austro is 200kgs itll be 5 shot by a trood so

[manic fulcrum]

Me when the ambush predator doesn’t need to ambush

[lost musk]

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf austro is likely gonna be faster than troodon. Since it is lighter Omni on cruise mode

Granted, a kick should probably one tap it

[tall hamlet]

yeah and now we know it has a pin, and it obviously won’t lose to a troodon because it has pin. So that’s why i said there was probably things that were changed and swapped around after that original statement was made

[olive field]

what?

[manic fulcrum]

Actually. Do we know if austro has a kick?

[wheat moth]

Even if it isn't, austro has the water to escape to.

[lost musk]

lets hope thats true and the datamined stats arent real

[halcyon dove]

thats one suspiciously rex shaped bush

[manic fulcrum]

Datamined stats usually aren’t ever real

[lost musk]

weve seen its kick animation before, but it seems to be an alt attack, and knowing smalls being smalls, probably a death sentence to use

[manic fulcrum]

If austro can’t kick while running….I riot

Or at the very least, make its kick holding lmb

[wheat moth]

I thought to myself "run" at the exact same time you hit enter 🫲

[gritty hamlet]

he did the thrash pin too a normal pin wouldve took a bit more time to kill u

[lost musk]

200kg and 45 bite damage seems pretty real for austro

-# but 41 kmh..

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah nah. Make it like 48km/h

[lost musk]

yeah exactly

[tall hamlet]

either way let’s just hope it doesn’t suck and end up hypsi 2.0

[manic fulcrum]

I hope it has a gali style trot

[tall hamlet]

looks will only get you so far

[lost musk]

also theres literally NO reason NOT to make austro super fast

like why not? you already took its ability to have fun via combat, taking its mobility is removing the last interesting aspect for it

[tall hamlet]

we’ve seen it’s trot its very pretty

[gritty hamlet]

tbf austro doesnt need to be that fast it has water too

[lost musk]

that'd be so awesome, but its trot seems kinda slow

[tall hamlet]

it’s not gonna be that fast in the water

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf gali used to be. Can always change

[lost musk]

if austro was a combat playable i'd agree with you

but its not

its mobility is the ONLY thing it has going for it.

[stone tiger]

Faster than Deinosuchus?

[gritty hamlet]

na i dont think itll be

[wheat moth]

Probably not? But then it has land to escape a deino from.

[stone tiger]

Good

[lost musk]

what do yall think we rework swamp into this swampy marshland, and utilize that empty area near delta into the new mangrove swamp?

[charred root]

Beipi is not a combat playable and its mobility is terrible

[tall hamlet]

beipi doesn’t have bad mobility

[lost musk]

thats because its mostly aquatic focused

its the most agile and fastest semi aquatic we have with literal dolphin jumps and short stubby feet

austro on the other hand is the opposite

[stone tiger]

The Life of Austro would be trying to escape other reptiles that want to eat it.

I guess even Omni will hunt Austro dispite they are both raptors bird eats bird

[tall hamlet]

beipi is way more water dependent than austro, so it’s body is built for the water. Austro will be our first (real) semi aquatic that’s not completely dependent on water

[manic fulcrum]

I’d personally just rework half of swamp into mangroves and blend the two

[wheat moth]

Sounds right, yeah. Omni looks to be able to pin an austro.

[tall hamlet]

apparently not if the omni changes in hordetest are on purpose

[wheat moth]

Oh? Which changes?

[manic fulcrum]

I’d make this mangroves, making it an inbetween of delta & swamp

[tall hamlet]

they nerfed its pin threshold by a lot lol

[lost musk]

thats the problem though

currently swamp is just super inaccessible

its blocked off completely from all sides except two small entrance points and a little hidden tunnel, and traversing it is a whole nother miserable story. extremely cramped and annoying, it feels like once you go in, youre completely trapped

[charred root]

Yes but its not that good in the water for being completely locked into it imo. Austro will most likely be able to run around on land so there is that

[gritty hamlet]

adult omni cant pin austro omni solo pin was nerfed in ht

[wheat moth]

O rly? Huh...

[tall hamlet]

beipi is the most agile playable in water wdym

[stone tiger]

No Omni alone wouldn't be able to pin an Austro
Omni now can only pin animals that are much smaller than her weight

[manic fulcrum]

I think it would be fine if swamp wasn’t a nightmare to traverse in anyways

Also if migrations worked

[lost musk]

for being able to outspeed a deino i'd say thats fast

[tall hamlet]

as well as jump out the water and quickly change directions on a dime

[manic fulcrum]

Like I have no problem swamp being a more “hard to access” area of the map, but man I shouldn’t need to swim EVERY FIVE FEET

[lost musk]

adult omni can only pin 197.5kgs, 330 if its an elder

austro is 200kgs, knowing all raptors, austro will probably have pin vulnerability, so it WILL be pinned by omni

[maiden apex]

WHERE IS KENTROOOOOOO

[stone tiger]

At least 2 Omniraptor would be needed to hunt and pin another full grown Omni or Austro.

Its like if 2 Falcons attempt to hunt down a Fishing Eagle.

[tall hamlet]

in hordetest

[manic fulcrum]

Make clear defined paths in swamp, have deep water but make those more like mini lakes rather than the entire swamp

[charred root]

Every time I play beipi and a croc wants me dead if I don't just go on land instantly it swims me down and I die. Also its breach/dolphin jump was nerfed a while back for no reason

[midnight kernel]

i know Allo's solo pin was nerfed from 75% of its weight if the target has low bleed or stam (still does that with group. solo allo only pins at 50% weight or less) but i havent heard anything about omni's pin being changed.

[manic fulcrum]

Omni pin is now 50% same as Allo

[lost musk]

yeah exactly, thats why its so inaccessible and miserable to exist in, if it was reworked into something like this it'd be much less annoying and more of an actual POI that feels okay to go through

[midnight kernel]

interesting. i guess that makes sense

[lost musk]

its out-

[tall hamlet]

you just gotta learn how to maneuver , yes you should go on land to avoid deino but you really don’t have to. your small and fast and have access to places they can’t reach if you just dive down and swim away 9/10 you should be fine

[rancid plaza]

swamps being inconvient to go through is exactly why I grow my juvies there

[midnight kernel]

might at least prevent the rather silly situations where something looks bigger than it but it gets pinned by omni then

[manic fulcrum]

I mean with that perimeter atrium there, accessing it will always be a pain. The only entrances will be tunnel, delta or south plains. Same issue Northern Lake has imo

But as long as the swamp itself isn’t life draining to traverse in, there shouldn’t be a problem

[lost musk]

inconvenient is what it should be

not hair rippingly agonizing and miserable

its literally a cage

once youre in youre blocked off by a huge cliff and the ocean

[rancid plaza]

you can go south and then follow the beach to either delta or south plains

[gritty hamlet]

hmm prob yh

[lost musk]

i just feel like, as long as its hidden away in such an inaccessible and.. detached part of the map, it wont ever be fun or worth going through

thats why it'd be better to have a swamp location in the middle of the map more where its more convenient to go through and actually regularly visit

lucky for us theres this perfect area next to delta used for nothing that would go great there

[lost musk]

yeah but thats still one tiny exit point, which is from the beach

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah that’s sadly just going to be an issue as long as it remains in the spot it is. The only option to fix that is moving the swamp entirely and removing that area.

[worn night]

What we complainin about

[lost musk]

see this, swamp is literally blocked off from most of the map

[manic fulcrum]

Gateways layout in general is really wack

[lost musk]

might be a hot take but it could be better to move the dome itself 🤷‍♂️

[worn night]

Holy verticality

[manic fulcrum]

Honestly my biggest gripe with gateway is how the middle of the map is basically a three way streak between delta, highlands and atrium, you either go through a single path, or pick your poison for annoying to traverse

[lost musk]

LOL thats so true

[manic fulcrum]

I feel like highlands should actually be where west access used to be, and current highlands can be lowered to be the current swamp/remove lower swamp area