isle-discussion

[shrewd sky]

Cama

[valid ermine]

are fishspawns gonna be fixed before the hordetest releases ?
Playing anything that needs fish is very frustrating on officials

[past dune]

Good.

[pliant birch]

cool

hacker I was also looking at this again, and it just reminds me of ai and I find that funny

[past dune]

Same, at a glance I thought it could be AI.

[tawny yarrow]

is that ava in the background

[shrewd sky]

I thinks that the spawns are fixed in ht at least someone told me

[idle roost]

ive seen plenty of schooling fish in ht

[proud kettle]

plenty of flying ones

[pliant birch]

could be like the rocks in the water

[idle roost]

only saw 2 flying ones next to eachother
the one time

[past dune]

I think it's that specific style of lighting on the stegos actually.

[rocky gulch]

more agile than omni interesting

[neon elk]

why do the stegosaurus have 6 finger...

[midnight kernel]

honestly I notice AI art most from the hazy quality it has compared to other art types

[pliant birch]

ya

[vapid laurel]

Why is it usually yellow >:I

[past dune]

Would you perhaps be interested in working on a larger project?

[tall hamlet]

wonder how thatll workout, super jump austroraptor prob

[midnight kernel]

and that combined with the male stego's plates not being colored evenly might throw people off even if thats the case with the model

[pliant birch]

woah. um whats the project

[past dune]

Apple Flies

[neon elk]

clearly its all generated in mexico

[tall hamlet]

microwave

[past dune]

Airfryer tbh

[pliant birch]

woah, I have not heard that one in years

uh, I dont think im good enough for that

[past dune]

hmm

[valid ermine]

im speaking of normal evrima tho HT is gonna take some time to release

[shrewd sky]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-ffxi-ffvii-orc-looking-up-disintegrate-gif-3828438190886311598

[vapid laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-youre-goddamn-right-gif-14600753

[shrewd sky]

We don't know

[past dune]

I'm singling you out in particular mainly for your general use of foliage.
Although the lighting is a bit questionable at times, that can be sorted out later. I mainly just want to focus on the environmental work and your general proficiency with Blender.

[shrewd sky]

I feel like there is spino somewhere in it

[past dune]

Also I think if you look at the past of Apollo Files you'll see that... the bar right now is quite low.
I wish to raise it, but as of right now, it's low.

[neon elk]

apple flies

[past dune]

Sorry, Apple Flies.

[valid ermine]

damn
its really annoying because i started playing evrima like 3 weeks ago only playing deino and ive never seen any elite fish and most of the time i spent trying to find schooling fish as juvenile and become infertile and die cuz there would not be one fish spawn

[neon elk]

thank you

[shrewd sky]

U have to canni

[misty pivot]

apollo

[neon elk]

apoolo cheese

[pliant birch]

drippy

[valid ermine]

i know but even that is barely possible
even on absolutely stacked servers its hard to find other deinos at all (not mentioning that most are likely larger then you)

[idle roost]

omg theres a huge allo and dilo mixpack

[past dune]

Might be a good idea to have some variation of vegetation in the back, and change up the flatness of the terrain some.

[neon elk]

i think the only problem is that the flat
oh thanks hacker

[pliant birch]

lol

[winged anchor]

phat

[neon elk]

was gonna say flat terrain
but yeah

yay

[grand grotto]

[neon elk]

its basically the biggest issue when you look at JW:CC
all flat

visually everything else is nice and fine
just all flat in (tropical) environment

[tall hamlet]

is the quadpedal looking spino unrealistic

[golden thistle]

RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAA

[neon elk]

or just any environment, in general
not entirely realistic unless you're in Rick's backyard of Magyarlandia or the Steppes

[winged anchor]

ohh

[pliant birch]

better or? I slightly adjusted the allos pose and you know terrain

[neon elk]

looks better!

(outside question now. Do you use references for your landscapes or just going off vibes?)

[trail shard]

Frolo be cooking

[wheat moth]

Just eyeballing my reference images, and my god. Look at this monstrosity!

[oblique stone]

Damn Spino is Big.

[pliant birch]

sometimes

like this one I am

[neon elk]

yay

[cursive rampart]

Jesus Christ

That thing better be as slow as an Anky

[wheat moth]

This was one of my references, but since I'm using the rex from the creation screen, the posture of it and trike are different to the t-pose.

[pliant birch]

adjusted again

[tulip crystal]

Silent hill 2 the isle

[vital onyx]

can you make the allo chew on the tree

feral creature

[pliant birch]

wild feral allo calls

[trail shard]

Gotcha

[trail shard]

= human screaming

[wheat moth]

It can't be fast on land. It just can't be...

[void marlin]

hi

[dusky night]

obscenely large

[void marlin]

500 Spino Nerfs

[wheat moth]

"Parkour! Heh, nothin' to it."

[neon elk]

yeah!!

https://tenor.com/view/parkour-the-office-andy-bernard-gif-11765843

[wheat moth]

[neon elk]

(into the 2nd H-Rex's mouth)

[misty pivot]

arms

[craggy ridge]

Hello Chat

[misty pivot]

hi

[neon elk]

hi

[topaz locust]

did eu 1 die?

[wheat moth]

https://tenor.com/view/t-rex-dinosaur-gotcha-trapped-scary-gif-16077296

[neon elk]

lol

[oblique stone]

Early Morning back problems.

[craggy ridge]

Has anyone in chat atm played Trike yet on HT by chance?

[tall hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/spinosaurus-jurassic-world-rebirth-jurassic-park-jurassic-world-spino-gif-568317402432181042

idk i rlly like 4 legged spino

[oblique stone]

I like em thats all I have to say

[winged anchor]

there is no way it stays this way. thats way too big

[graceful charm]

Attack on titans ahhh

[trim swallow]

its elder spino i think and just an adult rex maybe

[graceful charm]

Worst spino I’ve ever seen btw

[tall hamlet]

i know where you live

[oblique stone]

Big Hater

[graceful charm]

I still can’t see Spino being THAT big

[graceful charm]

Say wallahi bro

[past dune]

Still flat

[past python]

Does anyone know the math formula for growth? Like rex is 35 hours with 0 diet. If you have 150% growth rate, how would I calculate that

[wheat moth]

I was just measuring it up with other tall/huge animals, and it seems to compare to what Dalt made, as well. We'll see if any semblance of balance dictates a slight reduction of size:

[graceful charm]

Looks ominous

[oblique stone]

I just hit me thats a Compi.

[graceful charm]

I just wanted jp3 Spino🫩

[wheat moth]

Just need to find an actual profile of camara...

[spiral cypress]

Eu 1 died?

Like i had a troodon in it and now its gone

[dry rivet]

this looks so good

[hexed iris]

https://tenor.com/view/nct-127-punch-gym-abs-workout-gif-16288543740782274721

[wheat moth]

It's getting there
Obviously the unreleased animals' sizes may be different, but I just wanted to make my own reference chart.

[indigo herald]

35 / (1 + 1.50) = 35 / 2.50 = 14 hours

[tall hamlet]

dont scream now

[oblique matrix]

I love that

[tiny burrow]

Dang. Stego is just a little baby when its standing beside spino lol

[wheat moth]

It's bloody nuts! Stego's going to need to drink from those isolated and shallow ponds when spino arrives.

[shrewd sky]

Spino is elder right.... right?

[tall hamlet]

do i go tactile or gastro on kentro

[wheat moth]

Uh... ask Dondi.

[shrewd sky]

This model is adult I thinks but the one in the other pic looks bigger idk

[pseudo moat]

yo guys quick question when rollbacks happen lets say for ex my rex died 7 hours ago but the rollback is 3 hours ago will i still have my rex?

[pseudo moat]

so i probably shouldnt get it back

[dusky night]

the spikes atop the spino makes me think it might be prime. Similar to herrera's prime model, but that's just me guessing

[dusky night]

probably not

[pliant birch]

for which one

[dusky night]

The photo Rook just posted

[idle roost]

what photo?

[pliant birch]

elder.

[dusky night]

Well, that's that then

[pliant birch]

adult

[dusky night]

a-yup

[pliant birch]

its adult, we have already been told 😛

[past dune]

Yeah, it's the adult

[idle roost]

idk

[oak rampart]

spino is gonna be a monster

[pliant birch]

sub rex and all 😛

[wheat moth]

I assumed Kuro meant the size was an elder. As Frolo said, the model is 100% and adult.

[indigo cave]

I see kaiju spino, I cringe

[pliant birch]

cry me a river please

[fossil elbow]

kaiju spino is awesome

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/spinofaarus-friday-waddle-hehehehe-gif-2271446187422481637

[fossil elbow]

disgusting sealspino

[pliant birch]

spino needs somewhere to swim please cucho cry

this is a joke

[pliant birch]

its perfect

[indigo cave]

I will only take mild offense to it

[wheat moth]

So, my rough measurement was that the highest point of spino's thigh looked to measure around the t-pose rex's eyes. My rex is using the in-game idle, which raises its head. I just compensated for that, and I believe it's about the same as Dondi's reference image.

[pliant birch]

I do reckon the sizes are correct.

[wheat moth]

It's thanks to you I was able to make them more accurate.

[south moon]

I recently came back to the isle a couple weeks ago from leaving at around 2022 I think? Roughly around then and I used to play deino a lot when it got released, it was fun, had plenty to of rivers and lakes to hunt in, etc etc. but now it feels like they’ve been heavily screwrd over, anyone know if the devs are working on helping deinos issues?

[idle roost]

rex still looks bigger

[fossil elbow]

spino is 100% gonna be the tank of the apex carnivores with that size, and the defensive stance

[indigo cave]

No way budgie

[sacred wasp]

dinosaur

[pliant birch]

yea

imagine the thing rearing up like bary.

[indigo cave]

Deino has been unplayable for about a year unfortunately

[oak rampart]

i really hope that they stick to the "rex wins on land and spino wins in water" that i think ive heard said

[past python]

Is that the math formula?

[south moon]

Goddamn that’s sad, also heard they removed things like the lunge sprint and things. They must of really hated deinos it seems 😭

[plain thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-shimo-godzilla-x-kong-the-new-empire-godzilla-2014-walk-gif-7606398585706149267

[wintry lark]

Most people do tbf

[indigo herald]

assuming 35 hours for full growth at 0% boost

[cinder cave]

Sup nerds, one final down, 4 more to go

[pliant birch]

kissen has said that, I have mixed feelings.

[unkempt bolt]

They are adding 2 more semi aquatics soon and there’s been talk of river upgrades

[oak rampart]

i wouldnt say unplayable, its harder sure, bit i had a week long deino life. was fun

[indigo cave]

The lunge sprint was actual aids, you could grab people 50m inland it had to go

[pseudo moat]

whats the 1 and the 1.50

[indigo herald]

that's more exciting than ht congratz

[graceful charm]

Minimum 16 tons

[pliant birch]

on one half, i reckon FAR on land rex should win because of more agility etc, but closer to the water spino just you know, kills

[cinder cave]

Was a fun class, gonna miss it

[pliant birch]

spino bodyslam when

[cursive rampart]

Yeah

[south moon]

Never understood that, I miss the days when people were terrified of the water. Plus deinos still had a hard time with cannibal deinos and if you played wrong got too far away from land and got destroyed by a stego or something

[indigo cave]

Why is the thing on the background so friend shaped c:

[graceful charm]

#spino2027

[past python]

Do u know the basic formula? So I could calculate any growth for any dino

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/spinosaurus-dinosaur-meme-2027-paleomeme-gif-14471555602216043670

[pliant birch]

I reckon ya

[oak rampart]

i hope for the majority of interactions it will be that way, it would suck if spino just became the new thing you constantly see no matter what cause it just slaughters everything no competition

[oak rampart]

yeah this

[pliant birch]

I have a render for it, I cant find it

[indigo herald]

Each playable has different growth times

[south moon]

Yeah I think it was a good idea, though I think it should’ve been nerfed more or the lunge was more effective as a juvi than adult bc crocs irl would do the exact same thing so it makes sense

[indigo cave]

Spino in 2027? In the isle?

We will be lucky to get cama in evrima by then

[wheat moth]

Is that really Shimo's size? For some reason I remember her being a bit smaller

[wintry lark]

Deino has always been an invisible bear trap that deletes my gameplay hours, it was never scary just a waste of time

[graceful charm]

Late 2027 with cama and para coming mid 2027 maybe quetz too if they can’t squeeze it out this year

[rancid plaza]

it was nerfed, you can still do it

[graceful charm]

Trust the process

[wheat moth]

👏

[south moon]

Oh damn didn’t know that, just heard that they straight up removed it

[indigo cave]

It seems the common sense from yesterday is gone

[inland furnace]

the isle is no more

[cursive rampart]

And the numbers are always changing, so the whole system is dynamic as hell

[rancid plaza]

its not as insane as before but you can still do some wild stuff with it xD

[plain thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-idk-shrug-gif-14004072

[oak rampart]

im assuming youre talking power lunge? yeah deino can go really far still XD

[south moon]

Would have to disagree, you had to play smart to avoid getting snatched by crocs, if you got caught by a croc you were rather the idiot or the croc was smart

[cursive rampart]

Damn, I thought that had been fixed

[graceful charm]

If they can get quetz out by the end of this year (assuming Bary Ovi and austro come out by August/September time) you never know

[plain thicket]

Well, the representation is comparing it to the 2014 Godzilla.

[pseudo moat]

where did you find the 1 for this formula, i know the 1.50 is the growth rate

[bold pendant]

when is spino supposed to launch?

[wheat moth]

Ah, okay. I missed that

[graceful charm]

We don’t know but my best guess is def within either 2027 or early 2028

[past python]

Allo is 10 hours with 0 diet, so a 134% diet would be?

[indigo cave]

My brother in Christ we literally just got 1 (one) dinosaur on HT with only a second expected, we won't get ovi this year let alone quetz

[south moon]

Tbf never made it to prime deino yet so I can’t say much lol, most I’ve gotten in gateway was 50%, starvation is a bugger. Doesn’t help that half the time fish are missing or just straight up glitched in the air or land lol

[graceful charm]

OVI???? Ovi will come this year😭

[wintry lark]

All you had to do was wait for 10 minutes for their breath timer to run out, drink at a safe spot the deino can’t reach, or get lucky drinking without any precaution. The deino isn’t smart for succeeding, I’m not smart for avoiding it, it’s just a low skill ceiling playable both to interact with and play as

[pliant birch]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZHhwN3lwd3J3aTE1Y2dmOWNpd3RmMzBmcWY5YXZlZDc3aTRlaXZvbSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/NFoqn0qgDnLkx8GbnX/giphy.gif

[pseudo moat]

like 4 according to the formula, but idk if it did it right, 1 sec

[graceful charm]

Dondi himself even implied it could come to this ht

[fossil elbow]

rex probably does more damage and is more maneuvereable on land so we'll see

[plain thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-dog-wink-gif-12510229

[spiral cypress]

Thats why i love ht servers

[sleek trench]

Hi anyone got any up to date guides on dinos, but like, specific and deep, like pushing their mechanics to the max deep

[past python]

What is the formula?

[pseudo moat]

1 sec

[wintry lark]

The donblog borderline implies the at the only animal that couldn’t come to this hordetest that’s currently being worked on is Ava….technically

[past python]

OK is that the forumla??

[pseudo moat]

@past python

[indigo cave]

Let's assume this is the case,
HT runs through to October - November

No other HT until early - mid next year

Spino ain't here before 2029

[graceful charm]

Ava and Bary since Bary will come after he said.

[pliant birch]

hordetest, ending 3026

[pseudo moat]

i believe so but the other guy isnt replying to me so it might be wrong

[wintry lark]

Oh really? Must’ve missed the bary part

[indigo herald]

1 is the base growth rate

[past python]

Dino base growth ÷ ( 1 + diet %) = growth?

[graceful charm]

Why would this ht run to November? Unless you mean Bary ht from October to November

[stone tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-you-speak-heresy-warhammer-40k-what-did-you-say-don't-say-that-gif-3570587536222968742

[pseudo moat]

base growth rate is 100?

[pliant birch]

we get ava textures this hordetest right? Rightttt

[stone tiger]

Heretic!

[graceful charm]

Give it the old grey skin we had back in the day

[oak rampart]

no, only ava, bary will be the last released in this batch: kentro, austro, ovi then bary last

[indigo cave]

What? Bary has been delayed

This HT is kentro + austro, ovi and ava are still before bary

[indigo herald]

(1 + Growth Boost %) ÷ (Base Time × 60) = Growth per Minute

[graceful charm]

I meant this current ht. I think Bary will have its own ht after this one

[pseudo moat]

ok

[shrewd sky]

Ovi before bary

[south moon]

Not really, as a deino player you had to plan out where good spots to hunt were without being caught it by other deinos, and back when I played if you did manage to lunge out and grab something and you got too far from water you’d be destroyed my a stego typically. And as the player you had to find safe places, or be smart where to drink and conceal your spot, like with bushes and stuff or going to places that weren’t as popular, though I do remember a shallow river where people went to drink at but people didn’t visit as often as it was boring and a bit of a treck to get to

[wintry lark]

The barytest

[pliant birch]

live pachy reaction

[graceful charm]

The blog didn’t specifically say Bary and Ava won’t be in the same ht

[lost musk]

purple goo ava..

cama climbing out of purple goo..

theres a hidden meaning behind it.. the goo consumes all..

[jovial pagoda]

can allo pin kentro

[oak rampart]

i dont think so, at least thats not what i got from the donblog

[shrewd sky]

Deep mud pit cama is walking to the edge and trying to climb up

[pseudo moat]

so lets say the base growth is 10 hours the growth boost is 135 how much growth P/m is that

[oak rampart]

goofy ahh pachy

[wintry lark]

Yeah all of this is just super easy to do relatively speaking.

[lost musk]

purple goo pit*

[wheat moth]

This is how it will be summoned during Halloween to cause a server-wide extinction event.

[shrewd sky]

He's behind me isn't he

[pseudo moat]

i got 14

[stone tiger]

I tend to forget these Isle models are symmetrical
Its a very disturbing thing

[shrewd sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-what-gif-25256285

[graceful charm]

Unfortunately yes and it’s faster

[south moon]

Plus that 10 minute strat would only work in clear water, but a lot of the time there were bushes for you to conceal yourself when coming up for air, plus not a single person had the attention span to wait 10 minutes to drink either

[wheat moth]

https://tenor.com/view/primal-sauropod-dinosaur-zombie-infected-gif-21889874

[jovial pagoda]

but if kentro in defensive

[wintry lark]

It’ll still take allo pounce impact damage

[indigo cave]

Dude I understand wanting the development to go faster, trust me there is nothing more I wish for than anky to be here.

But ffs why does everyone refuse to look at the past (the literal only source of concrete and truthful information)? We get 3-4 dinos per year, spino ain't coming anytime soon

[past python]

Yea I got this too lol

[lost musk]

[jovial pagoda]

but does allo usually die of bleed, idk kentro stats as i havent played it yet

[indigo cave]

<@&933486433342222376>

[pseudo moat]

so thats the amount of growth u get per min

[shrewd sky]

Need some environment for spino too

[jovial pagoda]

or is kentro more damage focused dino

[wintry lark]

No allo just facetanks unless it’s outnumbered and can be run down

[south moon]

Yeah but you could say that with most dinos gameplay in the isle, especially with herbivores

[past python]

So I assume now I divide the base growth number by that

[jovial pagoda]

damn, kentro really needs a buff xd

[shrewd sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pls-god-strike-this-individual-down-strike-down-god-kanye-kanye-cat-gif-9334290556842141514

[pseudo moat]

i believe so, im gonna try with rex rq

[jovial pagoda]

so allo can just stand and tank hits to the head

[wintry lark]

Not to the same degree as you can with Dieno, especially with Rex and Allo being in the game lmao

[sacred wasp]

polacy idioci 🤣 ✌🏿

[past python]

Dino base growth ÷ ( 1 + growth percentage) seems to work too

[wintry lark]

It can do this with most of the animals in the game actually, allo can only negatively trade with the apexes

[indigo cave]

I sure love that the literal porcupine can be pounced and pinned, very very cool

[lost musk]

O OF THE DAY

[pseudo moat]

jip

[stone tiger]

Imagine Camara with Tactile endurance mutation...

No player would be able to stup such beast

[jovial pagoda]

i feel like kentro should atleast get damage reduction when in defensive stance though

[jovial pagoda]

then sucho will be too strong aswell

[oak rampart]

the fact allo can facetank anything in its weight class and win everytime is so dumb, they need to seriously slow down its bite speed

[sacred wasp]

it does,doesnt it

[stone tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/primal-spear-fang-trex-sauropod-gif-4984691984508702398

[jovial pagoda]

do you know does kentro do atleast good amount of damage or bleed

[wintry lark]

Probably not, I imagine sucho will be drastically slower than allo.

Allo is also disgustingly overtuned rn

[void temple]

https://tenor.com/view/girafa-giraffe-death-drop-girafa-comendo-girafa-espacate-gif-18805022

[lost musk]

Bro ur making such a big deal out of nothing, like whats wrong im just impaling my body, head and limbs several times with huge spikes that could go through the other end of me repeatedly with full force its not like it'd kill me or anything 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[pseudo moat]

i wonder now if 100% gr means 2x growth or...?

[wintry lark]

It does a ridiculous amount of both actually, Kentro is super good into anything that isn’t bigger than it

[jovial pagoda]

i guess not, just cant get pinned

[indigo cave]

Call me crazy but if anything, including rex, tries to pin kentro they should take severe bleed damage back and instantly get repelled (you ain't pushing through that pain)

[oak rampart]

i think its power swing is as powerful as stegos if it lands

[stone tiger]

Sauropods doesn't have to do that

[wintry lark]

Kentro gets completely bodied by anything a gram heavier than it though

[tiny edge]

do restarts on ht happen? me and some other people hit a perma crash spot and ive seen ppl say it fixes on restart but do they even restart?

[oak rampart]

they need to buff its weight slightly so its not an insta pin

[jovial pagoda]

so kinda useless dino but kinda not at the same time

[indigo cave]

My bad, I forgot to consider that carnivores cannot be allowed to struggle to hunt

[indigo herald]

read devblog

[wintry lark]

Allo also just needs a full kit rework and rebalance, but yeah Kentro should be slightly heavier

[stone tiger]

I wish Kentro would reflect melee damage and cause bleed regardless the weight of the attacker

[oak rampart]

not by much, just enough so its not insta pinned by allo, 100kg-200 max

[wintry lark]

That’s actually happening

[pseudo moat]

@past python 17 and a half hours with 100 diet

[stone tiger]

Balancing combat with weight and not abilities is an odd thing

[jovial pagoda]

atleast 2000kg

[pseudo moat]

so this means 100% growth rate is 2x growth

[oak rampart]

im pretty sure that was dondi referring to its buff from 1x to 1.5x

[indigo cave]

If anything the larger the weight of the attacker the more damage it should reflect back...

[indigo herald]

health bar has to be something

[jovial pagoda]

so sub kentro cant be pinned aswell if in defense

[past python]

Okok so base formula is dino growth / ( 1 + growth %)

[pseudo moat]

yep

[wintry lark]

I couldn’t say, I’ve never seen a sub Kentro do anything before

[south moon]

With Rex and allo it is harder but I would say that deino is still way harder to play as, a deinos biggest threat is another deino and most of the time the reason your deino died was due to another deino, especially considering deino are cannibals and is apart of their diet so it’s encouraged for deino players to go around actively hunting other deinos. Plus deinos don’t exactly have the best starting position, baby deinos can’t kill much of anything at all so a lot of the time they starve

[past python]

So carno with 200% diet would be 2 hours 30 mins which seems correct, carno base growth js 7 hours 40

[stone tiger]

Or giving back the same damage to the attacker as the Kentro endured + bleed

[pseudo moat]

but dont type growth % as a percentage example 165% you need to type it as a decimal ( 1.65)

[wintry lark]

This isn’t a matter of deino being difficult, this is just deino being miserable and unfun

[past python]

Thank you omfg ur a saint

[wintry lark]

It’s not hard just tedious and luck based

[past python]

Yayaya I got that :)

[indigo cave]

Nah that would just allow apexes to abuse kentro since they have the HP pool to tank through it

[stone tiger]

I agree weight = Health but pinning would not be weight related

[pseudo moat]

👍

[jovial pagoda]

so kentro is like if you want stego fun but have a job

[indigo cave]

Kentro has >2000 HP to work with

[lost musk]

nah nah rex should have the kentro be fully stuck inside its mouth and they both live together an agonizing life of pain and suffering till the rex bleeds out and the kentro starves to death still waiting stuck to the deceased rotting rex's jaw

[indigo cave]

This is peak art 😭

[stone tiger]

If a Trex gets 800 damage from biting a Kentro?

• bleed

[indigo cave]

Kentro gets 3 shot, Rex loses barely 1/3 of it's HP...

[stone tiger]

That's enough reason to leave to Kentro alone

[manic fulcrum]

I mean, regardless a Kentro shouldn’t ever flat out kill an apex with reflective damage. You should just avoid it anyways

That doesn’t mean a Rex shouldn’t take significant damage for crushing a Kentro, but I think people are overestimating what a Kentro should reliably be able to fend off

[lost musk]

you really think so?

i love drawing things like these lmao theyre so simple and silly

[south moon]

Tbf that’s really your opinion, it ain’t your play style for stealth and patience hunting. For plenty deinos are fun to fight against and play as, there’s a fear of being too careless and getting snatched by a deino and there’s a fear of being caught by another deino or starving as a deino atleast in my eyes.

[wintry lark]

Kentro is like if you want to play a better version of tenonto using some mechanics from Maia and stego that still gets delegitimized by half the roster. If you have a job just play stego you’ll waste less of your time

[shrewd sky]

Looks painful, free him now

[indigo cave]

Yeah it is great! You should draw more, it's a very cute and endearing art style ❤️

[stone tiger]

The Trex would bleed out it would be a Pyrrhic victory
victory at an unsustainable cost.

[lost musk]

there needs to be ways for people to go "nah its not worth it"

like even if you wont die, its not worth it in the aftermath

like "ehhh i could kill this, im sure i'd survive, its just not rlly worth it"

[rocky gulch]

austro is wanted by me guys

[wintry lark]

Yeah that’s why I’m only talking about difficulty, not how much I like to play the animal. The animal is extremely easy to play, and I don’t enjoy playing as it either

[south moon]

Same could be said with herra as herra is practically the deino of the land, being ambush predators

[rocky gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860702568145354795/1335079313266966689/attachment.gif

[earnest gull]

What is the point of a literal full grown prime teno killing a fresh spawn dilo that just got good diets

He chased me around for 20 full minutes just biting me to death cause im a carnivore

[wintry lark]

You won’t grow up to kill him later

[stone tiger]

Kentro would cause you so much damage passively and actively that it wouldn't worth killing it

[heavy delta]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS THE ht REALLY LAGGY LIKE I KEEP GETTING MASSIVE SPIKS

[jaunty shoal]

how do i play PTE? like which palce should i go for farming

[indigo cave]

I think it's not really about being immortal, more about how to kill the kentro

A kentro holding a defensive stance should be flipped by a rex (taking pretty big damage to the face), then going for the kill. Bitting into the porcupine should be a death sentence

[stone tiger]

As it would make you bleed just from biting kicking or tail wacking Kentro

[manic fulcrum]

That I agree with. I think people are too stuck on on that Kentro needs to reflect damage it’s way to victory against EVERYTHING, when Kentro itself isn’t that big relatively speaking

There comes a point where you should prob just run away from the things that far outweigh you

[earnest gull]

there was a prime rex chasing him as he was chasing me like a looney tunes but HE STILL FOCUSED ON KILLING ME EVEN THOUGH HE GOT PINNED AS SOON AS I DIED (i had 270% diet so im rlly angry rn)

[wintry lark]

Lmao that’s actually hilarious

[stone tiger]

Well tipping Kentro would not be an easy task

[jaunty shoal]

gng how do i play PTE, where can i farm good

[indigo herald]

Kentro is actually

[south moon]

That’s fair, but I wouldn’t say it’s easy at all, again there’s a lot of competition for food by other deinos and constant risk of starvation, especially with baby deinos that is supposed to eat fish to grow up enough to hunt bigger things but usually the fish are heavily glitched or don’t exist

[stone tiger]

Spiky meatball?

[sour nacelle]

why the game crashes so much and so often? is it solved in hordetst?

[lost musk]

i did draw some other stuff before, im a fan of this one lmao, it was kind of a terraforming ability concept for dryo

i love the smug face in the end

[cursive rampart]

"Nah, I'd reflect."

Gets one shot by Rex crush

[indigo cave]

For example a trike should have no issue obliterating a kentro, it's horns are longer and the face shield is perfect for deflecting the spikes

[cursive rampart]

But tbf the Rex should get a LOT of bleeding out of that

[indigo herald]

Spiky tinfoil ball

[stone tiger]

The Isle would look like a Warzone with trenches everywhere

[indigo cave]

Wdym? Rex can flip stegos, it can 100% flip a stego 1/5 the original

[earnest gull]

Any dilos on us2 tryna group up? (ht)

[stone tiger]

Shoulder spike and Flipping Kentro as a Trex would also cause you to bleed as you touch the spikes with your skull

[earnest gull]

6A863A3901794220388555D92E4AAF9AC606C34A4CFC545C763AD75227056E6A for ht us2

[earnest gull]

Pick the spikes out like bones in a fish

https://tenor.com/view/bait-bait-or-low-iq-bait-or-low-iq-call-it-call-it-bait-or-gif-11665902714889208022

[stone tiger]

Once the Kentro is dead but latching on the spikes would be cool

[wintry lark]

Right, that’s all just a matter of the game not having the robustness or roster depth to support a playstyle where you get to engage in anything skillfully, so instead deino is forced to engage with only its own kind because nobody else wants to deal with them. Again this is why i keep saying that deino isnt hard, almost none of your success derives from how good at the game you are its entirely down to how lucky you are stumbling across food and whether or not you encounter a larger gator. Dieno doesnt gave any mechanically skill expressive engagements, it has lunge which is entirely free, you either hit the 6000dmg oneshot attack from total stealth or you miss, either way its mostly just how lucky you are.

[lost musk]

im not really talking about kentro specifically right now

but just in general, kentro included

even if you can easily win a fight, it shouldnt always be something worth doing unless you really have to

like for example not worth fighting a cera because youll be ill and have trouble later even if you kill the cera anyways, is the disease worth it later or are there better options?

or fighting a kentro, i COULD pin this easily, but is it really worth the side effects after? just as an example. Getting spikes through your head would have some lingering effects i'd imagine, not just bleed but maybe even slight brain damage or less functionality for a bit

or a pachy for example, is it really worth the risk of getting broken bones and potentially even further lasting effects to my skeletal capabilities?

just as an idea, fights should have a further lasting effect on you to make you consider if its really worth picking said risky fights or not

[indigo cave]

I still believe kentro should be a free win against apexes (in a 1v1 where no run is allowed) but the apexes having to play it mildly smart

Flip it, then delete. Bitting into the porcupine should not only deal devastating damage to the attacked but also make kentro take very little damage

[jolly goblet]

guys i have an bug i cant sniff in evrima or its bugged and i cant eat and i cant safelog waht should i do and when get it fixed help please ?

[cursive rampart]

I think you'll have to hard relog

[heavy delta]

why is the HT so laggy?

[oblique stone]

Im Scared.

[oak rampart]

i hope giga is in the next batch of dinos whenever the current list is done, was def my favourite apex in legacy

[earnest gull]

I cant wait for giga the goat (no rex is escaping my duo)

[jovial pagoda]

sucho goat

[indigo cave]

Yes but consider that the skull cannot really be pierced by those spikes, you get (let's say 400 damage and bleed inflicted on you) damaged but nowhere near as much as getting your tongue, guns and every other fleshy bits you rely on impaled through

[dry rivet]

same lol

[lost musk]

yeahh you shouldnt be able to use the same one attack against EVERYTHING to win

some rexes would need to learn that crush isnt the best decision to killing everything, like you said it'd be much better to yeet the kentro onto the floor then smush its soft delicate skull like toffee than to shove several spikes into your brain

[wintry lark]

Giga won’t be in before Alberto is in, dondi won’t allow it

[oblique stone]

Bary is a Duck. Sucho is a Big Duck. And Spino is an even Larger Duck.

[heavy delta]

is it some servers are laggy or is it all HT servers?

[manic fulcrum]

This is prob just where I’m gonna say agree to disagree. Kentro is spiky, its spikes are designed to fend things off. But it’s barely 2T, and Trex is 9.3T or more. You far outweigh a kentrosaurus and therefor it shouldn’t be as much of a problem (Calling back to how crushing a kentro should come with some heavy recoiled damage)

Kentrosaurus is still far smaller than a Trex, at that point you should just run away. Because a Trex getting the death sentence for hunting something that much smaller than it would just be silly

[jolly goblet]

i tried it more often and its not going since yesterday

[oak rampart]

i mean, alberto is a mid tier, so i wouldnt mind too much

[jovial pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-jurassic-world-camp-cretaceous-camp-cretaceous-jwcc-spinosaurus-gif-4346862960585852412

[cursive rampart]

That's weird

[jolly goblet]

i did log on relog shut down pc canceld game and loaded it up usw

[oblique stone]

“Get Folded.”

[jolly goblet]

y

[lost musk]

weak ahh spino

[jovial pagoda]

or strong ahh kentro

[manic fulcrum]

Like I have no problem with Kentro being able to fend off things larger than it. Like Allo or Alberto

But why in the world would you ever need to fend off a Trex when you can just run

[vapid laurel]

Yeah I don't see a Rex being particularly happy after chomping down on a Kentro, but nothing it'd lose sleep over.

[indigo herald]

100% agree lol

[indigo cave]

What? Plenty lions have died for getting cocky around porcupines

Kentro should only win against a rex if the rex is actually brain-dead and only bites repeatedly into the spikes. Flipping the kentro is a 2 step guaranteed win. That's not a bad thing for a defensive herbivore

[stone tiger]

Okay

[oblique stone]

If you watch closely at the far right what the heck is going on with his head..

[graceful charm]

Are people arguing it should?

[lost musk]

i do agree with their point of being more mindful on HOW you kill something like a kentro

when you eat a sea urchin, you crack it open and then eat it, rather than biting straight into the spines

similarly, a rex would have a better time knocking the kentro down first and THEN biting into it, rather than having many painful spines into its head

[jovial pagoda]

it got yeeted thats what happend xd

[indigo herald]

A porcupine has WAY more spikes than kentro though.

[earnest gull]

You dont seem to understand that a human was controlling his mind when he got smacked in the face

[cursive rampart]

It should be enough of an inconvenience as to where a Rex that knows there are other big carnis around wouldn't want to chew on it knowing the dangers of taking some damage

[median ridge]

hello guys, my laptop is too weak and i bought geforce cloud to finally play this game, but it seems i cant switch to evrima version, anyone has any idea?

[stone tiger]

Look what I found A silly animation

[jovial pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-jurassic-world-evolution-dinosaur-fighting-kentrosaurus-gif-22504225

[vapid laurel]

A good way to put it

[oak rampart]

i mean if we getting technical, they have a lot of differences eg. porcupine has quills, and kentro has giant spikes made from bone, very big difference

[indigo herald]

and rex preys upon trike and is designed to break bone

trike who has giant spears on its face and rex can spar with his own face...

[wintry lark]

In fairness that’s stupid

[oak rampart]

breaking normal bones and bones that are specifically defensive are also different

[wintry lark]

Like Rex being able to essentially mouth on trikes horns face on is silly

[midnight kernel]

food for thought, but you could just slap a weeping wounds penalty on stego and kentro that makes traumatic useless and you have to roll in mud to stop bleeding if it is fatal. suddenly you need to gague if its worth the fight and if you are in the right location, and the stego and kentro also need to keep that in mind

[indigo herald]

it is but that's the game we have.

[midnight kernel]

but, kentro also is going to be getting some slight balance tweaks, so let's wait and see on those

[indigo herald]

And that's why almost every argument in this discord is pointless lol

[oak rampart]

rex doesnt break the trikes horns tho

[wintry lark]

Right but if we afforded the same benefit to Kentro…something as silly as Rex literally dying instantly when pinning a Kentro would also be just as acceptable

[midnight kernel]

like the recoil on biting kentro, stego, or trike (as in the devblog)

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-cooking-bro-is-cooking-let-him-cook-gif-10612455210859277218

[vapid laurel]

I do love the idea of more unique status effects in general honestly. Lotta fun you can have with them.

[oak rampart]

i mean its all a fun little debate, we have no say over the final product, so we know we're just having fun speculating

[wintry lark]

I like this

[earnest gull]

Am i evil for this? Kentros took my last entombed dilo

[cursive rampart]

I do think slowing healing down a bit would help people choose fights better, but that can also be annoying with payables that can't choose their battles

[midnight kernel]

i like the idea of status effects; i dislike permanent debuffs you cant do anything about

[indigo cave]

Though I don't think it would be balanced atm, there are far too few mudpits to stop the bleed

[oblique stone]

Nah ur Fine.

[vapid laurel]

All I see is a predator with its prey

[oak rampart]

#removeglassbones/nerfglassbones

[cursive rampart]

Obviously after removing or reworking the eat to heal mutation

[lost musk]

i see a dilo with a baby kentro

[wintry lark]

The fact that that’s just…permanent

[stone tiger]

Meat is meat

[dark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-them-all-burn-them-all-aerys-ii-game-of-thrones-bran-stark-gif-27110112

[vapid laurel]

🙏

[indigo cave]

Remove glass bones from rex

Pachy and anky would be good users of it, especially anky

[lost musk]

@manic fulcrum i need your opinion on something

[stone tiger]

You slaughtered her like a lamb
Time for some Kentro haggis

[oak rampart]

i dont mind its permanent, its just WAY too easy to get with it being permanent

[earnest gull]

Damn u all hate kentro 🤣

[oblique stone]

I don’t.

[midnight kernel]

admittedly it did exist before rex ever came and we almost never saw it

[wintry lark]

I don’t think any player applied debuff should be permanent

[stone tiger]

Do you like the idea of Kentro haggis?

[midnight kernel]

but just because something is rare doesnt make it balanced

[indigo cave]

Nah only carnivore players hate it

[cursive rampart]

No one was playing Pachy or breaking ankles that often

[onyx pivot]

hi sorry new to the game but how do i drink water as a deinosuchus

i use E and it dont do anything

[midnight kernel]

swim, or drink. deino doesnt move when drinking

[oak rampart]

i understand that you need to fear the rex's crush, and it dissuades people from fighting rexes back to back to back, but atm if you have ONE interation with a rex, more than likely, you're walking away with glass bones

[onyx pivot]

drink

[cursive rampart]

You can stay swimming or just get to the shore and hold E, the animation is pretty hard to spot from its default position

[lost musk]

LIAR

it very barely tilts its head down and mouth open very slightly

[wintry lark]

Yeah but I think the fractures and the literal thousands of damage it does is more than enough

[indigo cave]

Go to the shore and drink as any other creature (it's silly)

You regenerate water VERY slowly when swimming

[onyx pivot]

tyyy

[stone tiger]

submerge your face into the water and hold the interact key (E)

[manic fulcrum]

And again, I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a consequence to hunting a kentrosaurus. It is still a spiky animal, it’s prob better to flip it first, or go for its head, crushing its body out the door is prob not the best idea

The key difference is porcupines are rarely gonna kill the lion when it bites them. They kill it a week or a month later when it gets infected and can’t heal that wound. Which in isle terms doesn’t really apply here because damage is flat out health that can always be healed

I just don’t see why Kentro needs to be defending against a TREX when you would be better off running away from it. You are a Kentrosaurus and are designed to be defensive, but Rex is an animal nearly 5X as large as you. I don’t know why you would WANT to just sit there and let it attack you

[indigo herald]

Cant wait to shoot kentro in the face with a shotgun

[midnight kernel]

the animation is so subtle its just easier to tell people to swim

[pseudo umbra]

Anyone have unofficial suggestions? Looking for something similar to mettas that has population control. No pay to win servers like nerf please.

[indigo cave]

Reabsorption on deino and beipi is goated

[cursive rampart]

True lol

[oak rampart]

a good way to spot if youre drinking is to try and look behind you, if you cant, youre drinking

[earnest gull]

KENTRO HATERS UNITE

[oblique stone]

Wait till 2030.

[jaunty shoal]

how do i find fish with PTE?

[severe wadi]

should it be possible that i have multiple isles open at once somehow

[jaunty shoal]

hey guys, how do i find fish with PTE

[cursive rampart]

Why do people hate Kentro?

[midnight kernel]

• daytime
• right click while standing on the shore of water
• wait for a fish to go close, then lmb to peck it

[oblique stone]

I dont hate it. I havent even played it yet cause still in HT.

[wintry lark]

I think it’s a bit of new toy syndrome, high populations etc

[earnest gull]

try not to go blind with nv challenge

[manic fulcrum]

What’s up

[indigo herald]

I can see us getting way more human stuff soon.

[indigo cave]

Kentro needs to defend against rex because it's slower... Yes the easier solution is to make it faster but I have little hopes seeing what state dibble is in 💀

[vapid laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[manic fulcrum]

Maybe the issue here is that Trex is that fast to begin with

[wintry lark]

Rex should just be slower

[oblique stone]

I like to Lore Dive in Abandoned Buildings or Lagoons or Bases.

[tall hamlet]

yeah cause why is rex actually so fast lol

[wintry lark]

Rex is waaaaay faster than it needs to be

[manic fulcrum]

Or the fact that Kentro and dibble are slower than what they should be imo

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/let's-not-bird-hooded-crow-shut-up-gif-13507623047974708682

[jaunty shoal]

how long does it take for fish to come

[vapid laurel]

I wonder if the dinos (bigger ones at least to humans) would be like bears where if ya shoot it, you need to make sure you got the right gun and ammo. Else you just uh...kinda make it mad.

[thorny yoke]

What the F are the devs doing bruv, its been over a week and we still have no patch out, the teleporting lag is absolutely infurating, ik its a hordetest but brother, come on man

[tall hamlet]

i was about to agree then i saw u played deadlock

[dark thicket]

What servers have ppl not lost dinos due to save issues on?

[manic fulcrum]

I think Kentro (and dibble) both need a small speed buff, Kentro just make the same speed as the elder, and Dibble should be brought back to 36km/h

prime Rex needs to be the same speed as the adult, it has no reason to be that fast

That will fix the issues imo

[indigo herald]

Whose excited for dome to get taken over by mixpacks

[indigo cave]

Also porcupines kill lions not by infections but by literally making it impossible for the lion to hunt anymore, be it the porcupine itself or anything else

[wintry lark]

Interesting lol

[oblique stone]

I Remember I lost a Beipi Mid-Game. Literally Server Wiped.

[tall hamlet]

im jk but deadlock is a very hard game that i just suck at

[jovial pagoda]

is bary comming out with kentro>?

[tall hamlet]

thats why u play unnoficials where mixpacking is banned

[stone tiger]

Kentro players would be hunted by Gen 1 I guess

Imagine if Gen 1 could make weapons out of Kentro spikes

[tall hamlet]

no

[indigo herald]

Not in HT

[wintry lark]

Oh gotcha lol
It is a verrry hard game, but I’ve only got 2 jobs instead of 3 so it gets the rest of my time

[indigo cave]

I doubt I can share the image because it's very bloody but there are no shortage of images of lions, cheetahs and all sorts of African carnivores with their snout literally full of quills... Those bastards just sealed their own fate

[tall hamlet]

oh well yeah in HT its gonna be screwed

[stone tiger]

I wonder once Gen 1 are in the game Would they be able to loot dinosaur corpses for resources?

[indigo herald]

I hope

[tall hamlet]

only 2?

[oblique stone]

There is One Unofficial Server that allows it just sayin. Just One.

[uncut mason]

Yeah it gets stuck, infected and they are unable to eat

[vapid laurel]

Infections in the game...diseases...hmmhmhmhm.

[tall hamlet]

death to them

[oblique stone]

I chill there.

[manic fulcrum]

I'd just say Buff Kentro and dibbles speed a smidge, nerf Prime Rex's speed. All will be good

[wintry lark]

I know I need to get up to 4 or I won’t make my next rent

[wanton jackal]

i love the beipi so much

[indigo cave]

Cleric hypsi being able to lick any wounds clean ❤️

[blissful cypress]

same WE NEED AUSTOR!@!##33 AHEAHH!!

[tall hamlet]

no 2 itself is insane😭 im sorry u have to do that

[tall hamlet]

which one is it?

[lost musk]

ive been thinking of this a lot but never really knew if it was a good idea or not

what if all attacks were split into two categories, Blunt and Piercing

blunt attacks are like bites, blunt headbutts, kicks/claws, anything that doesnt include a big spear or horn

and piercing attacks are like ceratopsian headbutts and stegosaurid tail spikes, basically any long spear/horn of a good length

basically, piercing attacks would do more damage to headshots specifically, since a long spear would literally go through your entire head and vital organs, rather than only biting the surrounding skull

im not sure why this would be important to have rather than just make getting struck in the head by these more punishing, but it was just a strange thought i had, dunno if its a good idea i just wanted to share it

[cursive rampart]

Plausible

[indigo herald]

The isle special / physical split

[wintry lark]

Much appreciated

[tall hamlet]

why wouldn't bites be piercing? atleast for the dinos that have very sharp teeth

[cursive rampart]

I'm not against that at all

[wintry lark]

I’m curious to see how Kentros reflect actually works post patch

[jaunty shoal]

how to find fish breh therex no fishj

[indigo cave]

Finally my preaching for anky to be immune to piercing attacks is beginning to show it's fruits 🥺 🥲

[tall hamlet]

[cursive rampart]

Damage types can be a decent way to balance stuff around

[wintry lark]

Anky should be immune to most things optimally

[oblique stone]

Meh Im Not gonna use that Gif too blurry.

[stone tiger]

That is very weird

[indigo cave]

I have long said that armour should counter all piercing but die to crush damage (mostly sauropod stomps)

[fossil elbow]

probably because it's the popular new thing right now

[uncut mason]

Hope one of the dinosaurs carry their babies like this

[graceful charm]

Wait…since Austro is getting a pounce does that mean Austro will one tap beipi😭

[oblique stone]

Oh Dear Lord.

[wintry lark]

Please no (it will)

[stone tiger]

Austro but then it was snapped

[vapid pumice]

on land id imagine so

[graceful charm]

250kg beipi NOWWWW

[wintry lark]

#makebeipievenalittlebitgood

[manic fulcrum]

Hmmm idk. Headshot multipliers are already strong, it would have to be a small % increase like bringing a 1.5X to 1.75X…..I’m sorry Kentro and stego

Could work. You’d just have to balance it with caution

[indigo cave]

Why the fluff is austro getting a pounce (I'm going to commit a hate crime)

[fossil elbow]

keep in mind beipi has that retaliation damage from the front, might be more severe for something more frail than an omni like an austro

[graceful charm]

raptor fantasy

[stone tiger]

Having the babies latched your back would just be a repurposed pounce mechanic

[vapid pumice]

the raptor does raptor things

in other news, sky blue

[cursive rampart]

All I ever wanted was for Anky to be impervious to bleed... You must see why I had to add damage types.

[wintry lark]

First animal in isle history to have a pounce…that’s basically why

[fossil elbow]

true OGs remember the austro pounce days when they were testing it

[vapid pumice]

riding on the back of trike around the old test map was peak

[manic fulcrum]

Austro is getting pounce for the same reason Ava will be able to Spar. Because Ava is a ceratopsian, Austro is a raptor

[stone tiger]

Same for Deinosuchus to Big Mama could carry her little gators in her jaws protecting them but she could make them disembark if she needs to fight

[vapid laurel]

I'm just kinda bored of "I clicked a thing, I win" when it comes to pin. I get it, but it's just lame. <:I

[manic fulcrum]

Thats just what they do

[lost musk]

think of it this way

a big spike would definitely be much more critical

[trim elbow]

Is velo getting pounce when it's added

[fossil elbow]

also austro won't exactly be a great pouncer either, no special attack variations

[wintry lark]

Lol yep

[indigo cave]

Bleed, poison, teeth, claws, spikes, bullets

Anky my goat

[stone tiger]

And the hatchlings could also disembark willingly

[graceful charm]

Scrapped hopefully

[manic fulcrum]

I would imagine

[tall hamlet]

ohhh ok

[trim elbow]

Why would you wish that

[cursive rampart]

Welcome to the pinslop era

[cursive rampart]

Don't let David read that...

[indigo herald]

Sometimes its a very calculated percise click though

[graceful charm]

Velos niche is taken by troodon and juvi raptors

[indigo cave]

The difference between you and me is that I DONT get it

It's a little shitter, it does NOT deserve a "I win" button

[wintry lark]

Velo needs to be in game for the sake of David

[trim elbow]

Let Velo climb and enter burrows

[atomic zealot]

quiet orni no one wants to hear it

[wintry lark]

Otherwise it’s just a weird sidegrade to troodon

[vapid laurel]

I still say Velo has a place same as Oro :3
I mean no sense letting the assets go to waste.

[atomic zealot]

velo jack of all trades niche is peak

[graceful charm]

Herra.5

[cursive rampart]

We must collectively make a Velo mod and add it to every unofficial server if it gets to it

[trim elbow]

But pretty

[indigo cave]

Velo could be a 60km/h little rascal with only a talon attack

[wintry lark]

It’ll just be called “Salvation” or something

[tall hamlet]

@torn jay

[vapid laurel]

My ol' idea for Velo and Oro was to make them ultra-generalists aimed towards new players. Something to get them situated with how the game works n' such before they move onto the "real" playables so to speak.

[fossil elbow]

herra is pretty excuse you

[trim elbow]

Imo Velo just being fast and able to climb (at least like Hypsi) then pounce at people from trees and be a raptor otherwise would be fun

[wintry lark]

The Moira of dinosaurs

[trim elbow]

brickface animal

[graceful charm]

Talking of hypsi it needs a better climb as it’s very clunky rn.

[manic fulcrum]

TBH I don't think its that hard to fix imo. Austro & Omni should have their Pin thresholds reduced to 50% to standardize with Allo, just generally making it healthier for the game balance.

Grapple needs to have it's pin requirement be closer to 150%-200% rather than 101% (only needing to weigh 1kg more). That way thresholds would have to be taken into account much more and things will have to be worn down more before they can get to the ground

[vapid laurel]

That I can agree with. ;o;

[wintry lark]

Pleeeeease

[trim elbow]

Truth
Current Hypsi climb should go to Velo 🧌

[dire lily]

waiting for austro day 10.

[indigo cave]

Silly you, new players will play rex because why balance the overpowered characters when even newbies can succeed with it

[cursive rampart]

People rarely actually start with beginner friendly animals sadly

[tall hamlet]

it also needs to stop being forced to a stop and losing 10% of its hunger just to spit at someone

[vapid laurel]

🫵

[stone tiger]

Tiny Bird of prey

[brave herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028940565997432834/1428953256415199362/a9ggh8.gif

[graceful charm]

Nah if velo is gonna climb it needs good climbing. Hypsi doesn’t have good climbing.

[wintry lark]

Current hypsi climb is a punishment I’d wish upon no playable

[indigo cave]

Speaking of ptera... What did they do to it other than look like a rabid dog

[vapid laurel]

I refuse to use player ignorance as a balance factor

[wheat moth]

Slow climbing for better positioning, and its big jump for getting up surfaces faster.

[trim elbow]

Velo doesn't need to climb well if it's fast on land and can enter burrows

[oblique stone]

Is Underwater Vision Variety a thing? I can’t spot the difference between Deinos & Beipis.

[tall hamlet]

when i first started playing the isle I thought ptera was much more of a issue than it really was. I vividly remember screaming about getting pecked mid-air while being swarmed and thinking they were such a broken dino

[wintry lark]

Yeah Dryo is right there

[manic fulcrum]

As long as you can't instantly pin or grapple things similar in size to you It should be fine

My issues with the two comes from the lack of needing to wear things down generally speaking

[dark thicket]

Aw man i did not think about discord darkmode

[cursive rampart]

Fair tbh

I just meant it more as in, they'll probably get barely any play just like Dryo

[fossil elbow]

it's a gigachad of a dino ofc

[sacred wasp]

uhhhh

[graceful charm]

True,its spit needs to be reworked. Should have a short shotgun spread spit then a long range one like its current

[tall hamlet]

i agree

[indigo cave]

I once nearly died by 8~10 adult pteras pecking at my juvi stego for like 20 minutes lmao

[civic karma]

I learned Evrima on Pachy

[wheat moth]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-gif-7496038

[graceful charm]

Enter hypsi who can’t climb well and is slower than all of its predators on land(raptor,hera,troo)

[tall hamlet]

😭 a group of them really is hell on earth, especially if ur a dino that cant jump

[cursive rampart]

I did it on Stego

[vapid laurel]

Yeah an unfortunate truth <:/ BUT still, they'd have a genuine purpose at least :3

[trim elbow]

I did say that Hypsi deserves better climbing

[indigo cave]

My man 🤝

[civic karma]

[oblique stone]

Its slow. But it will get Nests in the Trees eventually.

[manic fulcrum]

Hypsi really should just get Herrera climbing at a slower rate, and an improved spit

The whole "jump to climb" thing is neat, but highly unreliable

[tall hamlet]

they have that rn dont they

[oblique stone]

Not yet.

[graceful charm]

Hypsi’s issue is that it released so early on that it’s quite out of date compared to most other dinos.

[tall hamlet]

plus 99% of the time u lost so much stam and are just knocked out the tree if u hit a tiny branch

[indigo cave]

Hypsi on the ground is perfectly fine
Yes it's very slow but the agility is off the charts, you can dodge anything with ease

[civic karma]

A slow climb but cannot sprint up like Herrera, it should keep the jump-climb instead

[tall hamlet]

??? i swear they do ive done it before

[cursive rampart]

How quaint and silly that Hypsi can barely even escape Herrera on trees

[trim elbow]

Can't*

Give Hypsi good climbing and slow fall and it's PEAK

[fossil elbow]

herrera climbing but slower + jump climb would work, so you're not screwed over from landing on a bad spot, and can do basic maneuvering, but still get the fancy thing

[indigo cave]

Wdym it can 😭
On trees you are 100% dead

[vapid laurel]

Never did agree with the idea some have had for it of "it encourages creativity"

I shouldn't need to come up with workarounds to just...use my ability ;-;

[trim elbow]

Also please give Hypsi a rooster claw attack

[cursive rampart]

Damn, I thought there was still some hope

[indigo cave]

The spit needs to be more fluid too, if you are running you cannot spit which is stupid

[trim elbow]

Give Dryo a dropkick

[idle roost]

no slow fall. hypsi is a born helldiver

[cursive rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-geats-kamen-rider-tycoon-kamen-rider-naago-kamen-rider-ace-ukiyo-gif-26410260

[wintry lark]

Or anything at all given it’s not even that agile and also slow

[dark thicket]

peak isle

[tall hamlet]

fr lol. u just are forced into a halt and then whatever youre spitting at just runs at you and 1 shots u

[dark thicket]

Cant even have light on gateway iswtg

[vapid pumice]

doesnt ovi seem to have some form of slow fall

[graceful charm]

Yerp🤤🤤🤤

[cursive rampart]

Yeah

[fossil elbow]

wait it does?

[rustic rune]

HT us 1 crashed?

[tall hamlet]

where

[indigo cave]

Ovi climbs? 💀

[wintry lark]

I’ve just been informed Dryo may have a spring boarding mechanic eventually….

[cursive rampart]

No

But it has the Ark Terror Bird niche

[lost musk]

just had to draw the current situation with kentro being pinnable by allo

[tall hamlet]

they all did i think

[heavy delta]

sooo umm what up with laggy HT like waaaaay morew then noermal

[indigo cave]

LMFAO so real

(Please keep making these, they are so good)

[graceful charm]

Allo is one of the golden boys of the isle. Alongside raptor and herra

[wheat moth]

You can do something with its spit, you can give it a slow climb for better surface positioning, but it's okay for hypsi to be a bit slower than its predators. It's nimble, it has many options for escape, it's tiny, and it grows so quickly. It's okay for it to be able to be hunted.

[shrewd sky]

Gime the toast

[lost musk]

idk what ur talking about herrera kinda sucks lately 😭

[void marlin]

i have appeared

[tall hamlet]

omni's bleed has been bugged for months, like almost a year. they do like 0.5 on a pounce bleed

[wintry lark]

I like how you drew the Kentro just sorta laying down while the Allo just kinda stands over it with its arms resting on its back…cuz that’s exactly what that animation looks like in game lol

[indigo cave]

Saying Herrera is a golden boy instead of rex is crazy

[fossil elbow]

how long does the slow fall take? how much fall damage can you negate? ovi just shot way up in my interest with this information

[tall hamlet]

its rex and allo for sure lol

[void marlin]

Rex and Cera*

[graceful charm]

I’m salty because it got a stamina buff when ptera got a stamina nerf Back in 2023. Still salty to this day.

[cursive rampart]

We don't really know, hold on, lemme grab the vid

[graceful charm]

Rex is another one, and cera

[lost musk]

idk man herrera's stam kinda sucks too 😭

[indigo cave]

Despite all the buffs, cera remains balanced like the awesome creature it is

[tall hamlet]

rex cera and allo

[gritty hamlet]

what is dilo

[graceful charm]

Really? Did they nerf if post 2023 buff?

[graceful charm]

He’s not a golden boy his clones barely worked for over a year

[cursive rampart]

https://youtu.be/fq73R5qk_p8?t=23&si=MOweqq7SGUndd8YW

[lost musk]

no idea but its terrible

[oblique stone]

Pteras Stam is Worse in my opinion.

[wheat moth]

[cursive rampart]

Here you go @fossil elbow

[void marlin]

I just hate how strong that thing is.

[indigo cave]

Dilo is the least forgotten of the forgotten children

(Because it's a carnivore, dryo hasn't been touched in YEARS)

[tall hamlet]

yes its very balanced that cera can instantly ram other creatures without having to actually utilize its speed to do so, and also can not be pounced by omni's when charging and then exploit that by spam charging and turning so they omnis cant do anything against them

[graceful charm]

Imo it’s better than it was but it was ahhh when gateway released.

[wintry lark]

No it’s just that it went from horribly awful to fine, which for Herrera sucks horrendously because if any animal has essentially zero balancing drawbacks for having literally infinite stamina, it’s Herrera

[fossil elbow]

whatever stam buff it got is deserved, it's painful to play rn either way, elder system basically forces you to not play like a herrera

[sacred wasp]

i think the devs loves pounce lmao

[indigo cave]

You are thinking of carno 💀

[gritty hamlet]

good for its niche

[tall hamlet]

ur so right let me go choke

[cursive rampart]

It's definitely just using Omni's rig for now or something

[wintry lark]

Like the fact that Herrera spends so much of its time resting for stam despite its stam being good is a testament to how awful Herrera engages with stamina as a system in general

[tall hamlet]

carno, rex and allo are the isles favorites

[indigo cave]

What...?

[void marlin]

It's kinda braindead imo
I love it as much as I hate it

[tall hamlet]

i was gonna say kms but i didnt know if that was allowed so i panicked lmao

[graceful charm]

I’ve heard people say this but is it because you have to run around the map with an ambush predator?

[gritty hamlet]

easy to play but high skill ceiling icl

[shrewd sky]

less salt

[fossil elbow]

dilo's venom is constantly breaking and being fixed idk about it being forgotten

[shrewd sky]

Cama

[gritty hamlet]

fish ai

[lost musk]

i think for each new addition they use a "base" animal that already exists before adding its functionality

like here ovi uses omni as a base

[fossil elbow]

yes, gotta be running from place to place non stop, rarely have time to do herrera things, and you gotta get past the juvie stage too which is slow and starves fast

[indigo cave]

What? Cera is perfectly fine

As fun as carno vs cera wars were, they were stupid. Cera isn't strong nor is it weak, it's just cera

[void marlin]

Can we talk about how Allosaurus is a bad playable rn but it looks awesome and could be the best playable if Dryo and Hypsi weren't real

[wintry lark]

So…like actually yeah kinda, because of the elder system. But it’s average stamina makes traversing the map in the only unique way Herrera can (tree to tree, wall jumps etc) extremely impractical and slow because of the heavy stam cost

[fossil elbow]

not reliable in the slightest, can run/swim around for hours and not find any

[gritty hamlet]

group size 5 whilst dilo is 4...

[graceful charm]

I wonder why they even had the base for omni pounce, reckon it could have some sort of jump attack

[tall hamlet]

cera is honestly allowed too many packmates but my biggest gripe with cera is how insanely loud they are like the chuffing is just so nasty. its like watching an overbred pug

[graceful charm]

Yeah that sounds ahh

[void marlin]

Btw, Carno can knock down Teno... But can't knock down a Cera (Just standing still, not using body buff/RMB)

[indigo cave]

Literally everything around it went super saiyan while it hasn't received a single buff in years, bug fixing is NOT buffing

[lost musk]

wait yeah we have no idea what ovi's secondary attack will be

maybe a kick but i doubt a pounce

[fossil elbow]

the new venom effect is kinda crazy from what I hear

[cursive rampart]

Cera's chuff is how I feel whenever I walk past a smoker

[tall hamlet]

i am honestly shocked that austro has a pounce

[oblique stone]

Yep

[indigo cave]

So real lmfao 😭😭😭

[void marlin]

It's still in the testing phase. They're still going to tweak it.

[gritty hamlet]

adult carno vs adult teno?

[lost musk]

[tall hamlet]

like its so insanely irritating when their in groups. when im on omni and they cant reach the rock im on they just stand under me coughing up mucus

[void marlin]

Yep

[lost musk]

LOL

[ebon iron]

Does someone know if The isle is searching for SFX artists?

[indigo cave]

Public smoking needs to be banned, nobody wants to get lung cancer

[graceful charm]

I’ll add this to my new video Merci

[cursive rampart]

Lmao

[gritty hamlet]

it stuns it but cant knock it down

[void marlin]

Smoking itself should be banned

[earnest gull]

Why did all the ht servers just crash son im crine

[wintry lark]

Happy to be of service owl man

[dark thicket]

Did the US HT servers die?

[earnest gull]

all of them did xD

[gentle mist]

i think all servers died

[indigo cave]

Unfortunately it is a very addicting drug, illegalicing substances just makes casualties skyrocket

[gritty hamlet]

i think they nerfed carno in the ht because a 1.8ton carno couldnt knock me down with standstill charge i was a 600kg dilo

[dark thicket]

dang it

[earnest gull]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-bait-or-low-iq-bait-or-low-iq-call-it-call-it-bait-or-gif-11665902714889208022

[void marlin]

Ffs

[graceful charm]

Nasty profile pic

[gentle mist]

you better include it to your video

[cursive rampart]

Literally impossible to ignore 😭

[void marlin]

I mean, you play Rex... It's not like your IQ is high

[indigo cave]

What did you expect 😭

[oblique stone]

Damn is right.

[wheat moth]

I realise the history of pouncing in the game states the contrary, but a pounce doesn't necessarily equate to a latch. It could just be a jump and a hit.
I personally don't see austro pouncing and latching on to something. We see it pouncing an elite fish in the concept art, so I'm guessing that'll be the extent of it.

[earnest gull]

I havent played rex in like 1 month since my last one got gangbanged by 3 dibbles on petit pieds when i was 8 tons I been playing dilo more recently

[dire orbit]

what.... where you expecting....

[indigo cave]

Nice jump though

[void marlin]

Still low IQ

[idle roost]

my thought was
"mud is soft?"

[willow cairn]

when i press Q what are those footprints?

[graceful charm]

🤣

[gentle mist]

https://tenor.com/view/dondi-pizza-dondi-pizza-the-isle-the-isle-diets-gif-27333835

[tall hamlet]

its gonna be able to latch, they said itll have pounce slots it just wont have any secondary or primary attacks on its pounce

[earnest gull]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[rustic rune]

[void marlin]

Give Carno a pounce just for funsies

[indigo cave]

Not very...

[graceful charm]

Other player footprints

[dire orbit]

thats not how mud puddles work

[rich mason]

hordetest down?

[gentle mist]

yes

[graceful charm]

How you even get a Rex on there

[wintry lark]

I think the biggest issue with Dilo is that it’s functionally underkitted.
It’s fast but not agile, its damage is ok, its health is ok but you’re not encouraged to trade at all with it.
Venom is good when it works, but the interactive parts of venom aren’t really there for you. Like there’s no feedback on the dilos end for the hell the envenomated player is. So basically all dilo is experientially is a generic carnivore template with a bite attack that inconsistently causes damage ticks from time to time. It doesn’t need a buff but its design is pretty shallow.

[cursive rampart]

One sec, lemme grab you the compass thingy

[willow cairn]

this

[rich mason]

is it just crashed wipe or update

[graceful charm]

It’s a migration zone. If you go to it you’ll find food

[daring trench]

migration

[gentle mist]

crash i thinkl

[rustic rune]

[void marlin]

Look what I have

[rich mason]

i hope its a wipe

[wheat moth]

Ah, that's right. I need to read the Dev Blog again...

[tall hamlet]

LOL

[burnt root]

anyone else think kentro does way too much dmg

[sour stump]

did the Hordetest server had a resart ?

[graceful charm]

No

[lost musk]

i wish it had a primary attack on pounce and a no damage neutral pounce like omni

so, in a way, we still get babies riding on their parent's backs like the concept art

[void marlin]

I was playing Legacy yesterday... I learned to like The Isle again.

[grand grotto]

dawg i meet some dilos thinking they chill and all then i saw a rex and a cera mixpack i said ew and the dilos got so offended because they were friends with them this cannot be real 🥀

[idle roost]

nah

[indigo cave]

https://tenor.com/view/just-you-christy-anna-faris-mom-only-you-gif-19845192

[earnest gull]

Its a glass cannon it has really big punish window for attacks and it has a small health pool

[void marlin]

500 Cera buffs nerfs

[graceful charm]

Ye

[quick rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391928826451460158/1423143412156076104/togif.gif

[rich mason]

nah way to hard to hit someone just needs speed buff

[earnest gull]

Also ceras mow it down like a grilled cheese sandwich

[cursive rampart]

How big is Kentro, again?

[burnt root]

really yall think kentro dmg is balanced some sub kentro just sneaked up and one tapped my 2.4t allo

[tall hamlet]

ME TOO. Im hoping theyll make it to where pounced offspring wont do any damage to their parent. im hoping this pounce is a way to include the concept art

[ebon iron]

Made this fan custom quetz sfx what yall think

[void marlin]

1.950kg

[indigo cave]

Smol

[graceful charm]

1950kg but getting a size buff

[cursive rampart]

Adult? Or prime elder

[lost musk]

oh thats really good

[void marlin]

Prime elder

[graceful charm]

1700kg adult

[cursive rampart]

What about adult?

[elfin quarry]

Nice!

[sudden crypt]

kentro getting size buff?

[lost musk]

idk if it fits quetz but the sound design is really great

[earnest gull]

Absolutely terrifying i sharted cuz im a juvi dilo in the forest

[cursive rampart]

I shee

[graceful charm]

Dev blog said so

[indigo cave]

1950 prime is some actual dogwater 💀

[idle roost]

i think im gonna pachy again

[graceful charm]

Because of pin it’s getting upsized a lickle

[cursive rampart]

Teno feels

[tall hamlet]

austro vs beipi

[lost musk]

yeah bc teno wasnt enough

[quick rune]

probably weight and speed buff for stunning prime allo like 2.2/2.1 ton 42-43 km/h

[void marlin]

Do you know what else is dogwater? Beipi's Prime Elder

[wintry lark]

Kentro power swing does like 700dmg, at best that was buffed by a headshot multiplier so the most you could’ve taken in one shot was 1050dmg, he couldn’t have even 2 tapped you let alone oneshot

[indigo cave]

I was expecting a 50% weight increase like stego 😔

[graceful charm]

Tbf pachy is now the closest it’s been to the monster that was update 4 pachy

[burnt root]

then how tf did i die

[void marlin]

Skill issue

[wintry lark]

Beipi in its entirety is dogwater
#makebeipievenittlebitgood

[sudden crypt]

oh yeah i see now they buff weight so it wont get pinned

[oblique stone]

Pachy the Ankle Breaker of Bones.

[lost musk]

cheats

[graceful charm]

2.5ish ton kentro would be a monster

[indigo cave]

Beipi is a fantastic little creature
The prime is a debuff for no reason 💀

[wheat moth]

I am a fool. By the sound of it, I still think it's an odd choice, but we'll see how it looks in practice, I guess.

[wintry lark]

He was hacking, you got hit with significantly more attacks than you think, or you were below 40% hp

[graceful charm]

What’s allo pin threshold and what size would adult kentro need to be to not get pinned by it?

[silent mulch]

eu3 ht has disappeared?

[earnest gull]

If you gonna make prime kentro 1950 kg dont make it 29 kph at 100% AT LEAST make it 34 so potatos dont outrun it... If u want to have a 29 kph kentro make it 4 tons :D

[indigo cave]

Omfg another pinning shitter

[oblique stone]

Sometimes the Elite Fish are Nowhere to be Seen :/

[rich mason]

all ht servers are down

[severe wadi]

they should give every single playable a pin, trust

[graceful charm]

Hacking

[wintry lark]

Gets erased by Rex if it’s that big and slow

[silent mulch]

oh thanks

[dire orbit]

i think only eu and US are down

[graceful charm]

You don’t know the damage your boy Allo has caused

[dire orbit]

the others ones still seem like they're up

[sudden crypt]

its already this slow no?

[tall hamlet]

😭 im so worried austros gonna get bullied, but honestly giving it a pin means it atleast wont be getting beat up by beipi

[sour stump]

i don't see Hordetest EU 3 !!! My baby is dead !

[severe wadi]

omnis pinslop is lowk worse than allos but y'all aint ready for that conversation

[burnt root]

how much dmg does full prime stego powerswing do

[earnest gull]

Give kentro poison, venom, 800 biteforce, 15 tons, 45 kph, swimming, lunge, pounce, pin, defense stance, fire breathing, and jumping

[void marlin]

I don't agree

[wintry lark]

It is, which is why it’s currently getting erased by Rex. Making it heavier just makes it a bigger burger without helping it live

[dire orbit]

like i said i think its just EU and US

[idle roost]

nuh uh

[earnest gull]

Were u one of the dilos i was playing with at delta on eu2?

[indigo cave]

Trash vs garbage

[severe wadi]

allos pinslop is basically just a skill issue if you get pinned, with the exceptions of group attacks, meanwhile omni can outrun everything and pin anything the same size as it

[dire orbit]

no

[wintry lark]

It’d finally be viable

[void marlin]

Can we make Cera and Carno rivals of their size?

[severe wadi]

allos pinslop is bad.. but omnis is worse imo

[tough junco]

Hate allo pin

[cinder cave]

Sup nerds

[wintry lark]

Both of them are rancid abominations from hell

[earnest gull]

Free my boy quetz

[void marlin]

Hii rumble

[severe wadi]

ive only died like 2 or 3 times to allos pin and thats when i was playing as things slower than allo

[river silo]

Shut up.

[tough junco]

Jst lost a prime dibble cus two prime allos and didn’t even get to attack em at all

[cinder cave]

Howdi

[earnest gull]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-bait-or-low-iq-bait-or-low-iq-call-it-call-it-bait-or-gif-11665902714889208022

[river silo]

Low bait iq.

[severe wadi]

yea the group pin is bs

[sour stump]

yeah, but Hordetest EU 3 don't show anymore. wich mean it will be wiped ! (i think)

[earnest gull]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401

[void marlin]

Yes how about u?

[graceful charm]

Nicest pinslop experience

[severe wadi]

also are the eu ht servers down for everyone else too?

[river silo]

Dies from cringe.

[cinder cave]

Alive

[wintry lark]

Skill issue, you should’ve doubled in size to counter them

[burnt root]

how much dmg does stego powerswing do

[void marlin]

70000

[dire orbit]

welcome to hordetest where things are buggy as hell

[earnest gull]

More like trike thrash

[burnt root]

it does not do that much bro

[tough junco]

Lwk I should found something to cover my as but even then he pounced my face an pinned me anyway

[wintry lark]

For the record it doesn’t NOT do 7000dmg

[graceful charm]

Just over 1000

[idle roost]

10000

[wintry lark]

There’s nothing you could’ve done they can literally just facetank you

[void marlin]

Don't take me seriously I don't want to talk seriously rn

[idle roost]

yea lets not

[river silo]

Strategy issue bro, you shoud to adovid those cases as possible.

[void marlin]

1.000.000

[graceful charm]

Is it true allo can face tank Diablo?

[gritty hamlet]

950

[ebon iron]

Fixed some few things, this is the final product i think? I wish i could try to join the flock but theyre prob full of SFX artists hehe

[wheat moth]

Yeah, it probably will get bullied, but it'll have options, and with any luck it'll also be pretty fast on land.

[dire orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/good-boy-pat-on-head-stitch-gif-14742401

[tough junco]

Somones lost

[tall hamlet]

hopefully

[wintry lark]

Literally yes. Funnier too…if you pounce a dibbles face like 7-8 times it’ll just die of impact damage

[light cradle]

with its current bite speed id be surprised if it couldnt ngl 💀

[tough junco]

At least I could fight back now I just have to sit there and let my dibble die

[wintry lark]

Allo is an abomination from hell

[graceful charm]

☠️☠️☠️☠️

[rustic rune]

i was set back 20% on my rex LOOOL

[silent mulch]

its like 1,500 or so

[cinder cave]

Ooo wow green

[wintry lark]

Tbf if the allos know what their stats are you couldn’t have even tried. One of them alone could facetank you, 2 is just doing it faster

[light cradle]

thats like 3hrs of growth 😭

[void marlin]

How dare you steal my meme

[river silo]

Let it dies whats the problem? :)

[oblique stone]

Allo is just too broken. And Kentro is Supposed to be “Pin/Pounceless.”

[tough junco]

Morgan jst su bro

[wintry lark]

Yeah that animals is NOT ethical

[gritty hamlet]

powerswing is 950 running powerswing is 1800 normal swing is 700

[indigo cave]

The meme is older than you 💀

[light cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/multiverso-multiverso-akela-multiverso-scout-gif-8208802467565299466