#isle-discussion
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
"constantly"
Uhhh actually i think you’re right i do think the legacy food bush is still being used
true
I have a feeling you guys used a darts board to select the Elder Requirements
i mean
you press tab or press Q
(ignoring the toast notifs coming, that'll be more forced to all for, we presume, the base set of/fundamental mechanics)
Deino has a perk where rotten food is on it's diet. Once something rots, it becomes diet for ya
I haven't seen the legacy bush in a while. There use to be one at southplains
No we spun a wheel.
We just need a requirements list on your tab menu. Like how the diets are organaised.
That's also relatable 
Legacy bush! Yes that's it, that has to be the oldest model
and this applies to all rotting corpses or just specific species?
Q and Tab give limited information, they give basic stuff like what do I eat for example
Fair enough 😂
That would be too easy
thankings
All, I know some folks will catch schooling fish and drop them om land to let them rot before consuming them. That way they will become diet
just so we KNOW if we got prime yk
Hey Kissen, I sent dondi a screenshot of a bug I have with the game on Steam and he said he’s never seen it before. Have you?
It says “game configuration unavailable” next to the download option on Steam because it’s trying to download a workshop item from something that doesn’t exist anymore.
prime is already too common to see in the game as it is 
Deino can get all three diets from bones as well.
But I cannot stress this enough, deino is very difficult, especially if you are solo cause you will eventually come across duo deinos
they literally tell you what you have to eat
and tab shows you where to literally go
the only thing missing from tab is it doesn't tell you what to do
(which will likely be fixed by the toast notifs ||the legacy tutorial system coming back to evrima||, as not telling the player the simpliest of things like that should typically be told some way or another)
kissen you should ask tapwing if they can make more of the things like this, I think tapwing made it right?
No, you happen to be a prime by playing and doing objectives by luck and by the Grace of Dondi
but don't make it any harder DX
Time for the frail elders to rise up and beat the prime elders with their canes
Tap signature on the bottom right
also, i wasnt sure if it was a bug or i was doing something wrong, sometimes when i try and get organs, it just grabs a piece of meat. or flick the corpse up and back to the floor. is there something extra i need to do or a tip that helps? (yes i spammed e to open em up)
I don’t see the issue with lots of people getting prime, it just means they’re engaging with the game
Dondi's Grace shall be upon you
I am exercising monk levels of self control right now.
ah yea, I was looking for it its so small lol
You don't need to eat something what is in your diet, you can just eat anything you are able to, you don't get punished for eating wrong type of plant, you just don't get the bonuses
Someone take away hackers OSHA certification before he starts building walls again
please dont
quite so
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a lot more
like there is a replicator art somewhere
what's making you do this
except mushrooms
i got like a 65% ish allo on a server. i visited 4pz 2mz never spasms or infertile and acheived per diet. I hope i get prime
Those things are tasked. Not requested. And there's more art. 😉
I would like to meet you ingame
Oh that's what I can make later
Thats a... oof.
Doin some breathing exercises rn.
Feeling kinda light headed.
What's prime allo weight and is it like the utah pin where I can pin anything smaller/lighter than me?
I see
What is a oof
this is prolly the last question i have. as from this onwards i think its just a skill polishing
Sounds like ya need a dose of outside
I am literally on a walk right now
even then you don't have to eat them, the game doesn't force you to, you can get diet from other stuff you can find and for herbis the diet is constantly changing based on where their zones are
You need electrolites
Then a dose of the outside's outside
Thats probably true.
3.9? I had a prime allo and fg allo pin my 5.7ton rex
why are our PFP's identical art styles.
a Prime Allo cannot pin a creature that is larger than half its own weight
you are technically being punished for not eating the right type of food
as in you're not getting the reverse buffs
nonetheless
not truly related to the topic though - as in it doesn't matter
as these things can still vary in any way they want, they just should exist to tell the player that they do exist. And that something (hopefully positive) is happening by trying to engage with it.
both Q and Tab are ways of communicating to the player on basic things they need to do to engage with the game and its fundamental gameplay loop
why should elders be any different
you had no stam then i'd guess
troodons can pin you if you have no stam.
You can get em in packs to add to water
Great stuff
What parallel discussion is this?
not punished, but not rewarded either
middle ground where nothing really happens 
No stam, low health will get you pinned
yes
Bleed too if im right
well, you're given a debuff without any diets
no?
or do we consider this base stat
probably
No you just bleed out lol
Plenty of stamina. Just bad luck
Elder goals being listed as an expected behavioural checklist for the asset would be cool
Just play the bloody game as hope for Dondi's grace
Bleed >:)
not really, you just grow slower, but you are still growing and infertility doesn't make you weak or anything and it will go away after you do eat diet
well theres 2 allos there -_-
Its not a goal to be a prime elder it's a reward
isn't there debuffs to not having any diets?
Oh yeah weight threshold is the other pin requirement
Seeking a reward attracts bad luck and burnout
nope, no debuffs only infertility
apologies but in what world is prime elder not a reward
Allo bleed is on gear bro. I bled out a sub maia in 3 mins and then ceratos took the body ;-;
It does become a goal when not hitting prime means you’re on a constant downturn until you can entomb
You can consider lack of the diet buffs a "debuff" but it's more like the default
But it's not a goal the goal is to survive and be alive.
If adult stayed at the same stats until say 100%, that’d be fine
When you have enough hours in the game that you just play for funsies 
-# concern
Light
Let it go man
a carnivore eating something not on it's diet is, to me, like an herbivore grazing... you do it because you're desperate, wasting space you have in your stomach that you could use to get diets... that to me is a type of punishment
Ngl? Rex. I dont like playing rex prime at times
ok imma go play now cya guys have a nice friday ^^#
thats relatively good at least
nonetheless
still systems that are telling you information on what you should do
which is a lot more informative then what we have with elders
ok yall are great, sorry for my small outburst. got a bit of issues im trying to work on. ill avoid coming back for negative matters. thank you
You're fine, but really as deino you are gonna have a rough time
That's why elder system was introduced.
To limit the playtime one can have with dinosaurs
So players cannot play Apexes for literal days sometimes weeks like on Legacy.
Elder system is a natural culling system with a wee bit reward
i still think 0 diet should give more debuffs
true, but its more like youre in wrong place at wrong time situation i feel like, if you get unlucky with food situation
if you strip it away, sure
but then it just becomes game design nihilism
why do anything to engage with the game
Because the goal of the game is not to be an elder its only to survive.
I know that, that’s why I said the same stats UNTIL 100%, so once you hit 100% that’s when you start to degrade
There's no two identical playthrough

prime is supposed to be rare thing and not THE thing anyways, yes they should tweak it so it would become more rare somehow i agree on that
but does that comes from the grandeur of high risk high reward dinosaur
(a path of pain and long growth times)
or because its innate bad design with elders
Luck is a big factor
I… don’t think you’re properly engaging with what I’m saying lol
eh. id rather 100% be the end in general. have the downgrade start around 97% with 0 speed nerfs but increased stam consumption and then once you hit 100%, time for entombment
path of
sammylvr wrote it instead of me Thanks sammylvr
Yeah it’s like deino. Maintaining it is a pain for me because I avoid the places that will get me jumped by a mixpack but that means im pretty much starving myself out
are you...?
Yeah that’d be fine too, it’s more so that’s you’re not degrading as soon as your miss the prime threshold and have time to atleast be an adult
but there is many ways you can make it rare
by gatekeeping it
you either lock it under skillgap and datamining
or make it rare by making it purely a long and hard road to achieve (something that doesn't need to be hidden to be rare)
100% is the decision for you to entomb or not.
But at 97% 96% you become weaker so you can die easier
The game always wants you to be dead
i just think in general there does need to be some elevated risk once youre past your peak, regardless of prime or not
Correction, survive
Whats the goal?
Indeed
yes gatekeeping bad, which is why something needs to change with the mechanic im not one of the devs so i leave that figuring out to them
sometimes it feels like it
I am aware… again, that’s why I said UNTIL 100%
Im fairly certain prime is meant to be the default and not rare at all, dondi said something similar afaik
Self control.
I get it we are on the same page then
can you find where he said that?
Yes we got there eventually
Thanks for the good talking
Nope cuz idk how to search his messages and it was a long while ago during ht
i thought it was kissen icl
why does this gif make me want to order a pizza 
Salami
Salamiiiiiiiii
it realistically is just one further step towards its ui design
the same design philosophy we've seen with (practically) every other mechanic
just having something to communicate elders through
doesn't need to be crazy checklist. But something would be nice :((
Sorry to hear that. With your chin up and your feet firmly planted, you can weather the storm. Good luck out there! You've got this! 
Maybe, i just know frail is a punishment for not playing the game as intended, prime is default
Kissen is in chat lol she can confirm or confirm the opposite
once you reach 100% on a prime or not I feel like the experience should be so horrid and a risk of dying that you want to entomb to save your mutations.
hi kissen 👋
Ooh! Kissen! How’s the skin system turning out? They in testing yet maybe possibly?? 👀
Yeah the debuffs are so severe even with 16 muts it cant compensate the stat loss
He hasn't said that in discord atleast
i am SO EXCITED FOR THE SKIN SYSTEM
We can all agree at least, that at the basic level, prime is to help promote travel and explore the map.
Well yes living past your species life expectancy AKA the Dilo Queen is dangerous because she can't hunt, she can't nest, she can't run very fast and would be kept alive by other Dilophosaurus in my lore
which is a good thing, imagine having such a stacked rex or something be able to live forver with 0 downsides to living for so long
if it communicated such
yes
Yeah but it's exucution is a mixed bag
yeah true, something small would be alright
i dont want a check list because theyre always so stressful
Me too i can’t wait to see what it’s like
But the Dilo Queen would be a type of Female Strain Dilo that would community with all Dilo on the map sort of becoming a hive mind
what playable u like the most?
I dont think its a good thing, you waste so many hours just so to be in a state thats weaker than a fg again. Apexes arent really an issue tho, lower tiers suffer more from this. Its a punishment to surviving entombment 3-4 times and getting prime each time. And the stacked mutations arent a huge advantage compared to a skill difference. A better rex will still win against a stacked but bad rex
It would be a strange experience to give basically a RTS style control to a few selected players
Ayy isle OC chat
Speaking of dilo hope it gets a drift with its bad agility
God save the Dilo Queen
huh
so true i cant wait for that update, i hear update 6 is gonna have trex ai
woah
2021 type message
Just a concept Vivi
maybe we'll get update 9 🪑
Clipped and screenshotted
Ai dinosaurs ❤️
im still aiting for update 7.5
one hell of a throwback
@lost birch
i would classify this big, upcoming bugfixing update to be the update 9 from the old roadmap
AI Tenonto
AI Dryo
AI
kek
i am just worried that canni rex groups will start feeding hard off of ai rexes
lol
but im just a lizer.............lizarle......lzzi.....larazrd
Seeing allo get one before dilo 🥀
that was a joke
is 7.5 out yet ??
😭 oh
feeling silly now
Okay
Oh you want a throwback?
you'd only get it if you were an islecord boomer................
memories influx
I mean they’re technically a thing already haha they just dont do anything rn
i kinda am, i just left at one point and came back
Yes more herbies ai yes
oh big beast... what truly were you...
the matriarch?
an islandwalker?
the primordial?
Colossus?
May we ever know...
it was me
GUH!!!
throwback time
I replicated trust
true true
cosmic velociraptor
AOT
yeah!!!
that's true, a stacked rex can lose against a rex with less mutations, however you're missing my point
that better rex is going to stay alive, what can kill it? nothing... not right now... so let time do it.
this is why we can see so many full grown rexes at any given time, because the incentive to entomb isn't great enough
isnt the adult + elder time about the same as growing time (50/50 split), and since juviniles tend to stay hidden, that's why it looks like only adult rexes exist
is rex really that bad? I havent played it much but trikes can't compete with it?
they can, its just harder, a good trike will curbstomp an avg rex player
we don't truly know
@still umbra
that can be part of it, however that does not change the fact that it looks like only adult rexes exist, because there's so many of them at any given time
Yes we don't know but it's a real good fan made concept
it was very much assumed
but.
We've never had confirmation, technically.
yeah imo as long as trike can run the fade with it we're good, it's an apex so right now it's performing as it should, although bad for fun purposes. it's a hydrogen bomb vs dying ant basically in its current ecosystem
quite so
shame that the bones were just marketplace assets and were never the true final thing
Then just ask Tapwing
looks like me on a monday morning
well, its the payoff for surviving a loong journey of pain and suffering, i do think rex should be harder to grow tho
more so Dondi
Yes I know
i doubt Tapwing would remember much nor be able to say anything (as in not allowed)
The isle™ (this whole comment sums up all isle hype imo)
I disagree with the incentive not being great enough, you get a limited time to enjoy your strong state, many people play for pvp, and having to repeat the whole process with risks isn’t a big appeal to most players. Right now like I said, going from your example, rex doesn’t need to entomb because for rex weight and fracture matters, so its debuffs dont affect too much. But anything below apex tier get so slow and weak they are forced to entomb, not to mention their elder stage doesnt last long. The appeal should solely be buffing your mutations, otherwise entombing should be a choice. They can still debuff them but much less, to put them in a similar level around fg strength rather than weaker and slower
I have a feeling this game is rather based on Tapwing's visuals than on Dondi's visuals.
Its Dondi's idea with Tapwing's visuals
The animations also seem to be based on Tapwing's concept arts
Then the NDA would also apply on Dondi
at times
but do not forget, a lot of this game's main themes and thingys came pre-Tapwing (i.e. pre-neuro Spino)
but theres definitely a fair amount of things from tapwing
however, that old sack of bones was quite old
not if you own the company (of course, depending on how the contract was written)
but trust me, he can say whatever he wants
Right now the game is slowly getting a massive visual overhaul
Tempted to get ice cream ngl
That's great
Dondi is the director, so ultimately all assets are made to suit his vision for the game, with input from the rest of the team ofcourse
And Kissen is the producer?
Producer and lead animator iirc
So she is the one in the company who get things done
Unless that’s Bryan, or if they’re both lead animators
we've never really had a look into those meetings or chats so you might as well shoot in the dark for a guess but iirc they have a design team
So far that's how Kissen introduced herself in Devblogs
how do i use chat in isle?
quite so
enter
ty
👍
She did do anim stuff previously, but I think she’s more focused on producing now
Chat in evrima is local and only dinos of the same species can see eachothers text.
I do agree, elder stage does not last long, so you do not stay "adult" for long, making the time you have with your adult playable rather short... but just playing for pvp? there are dedicated servers for that I believe... perhaps we need to take into consideration that the game is not solely meant for pvp but for surviving, in which is harder to do in old age, and needs to be harder for some things currently.
oh ok
That would also mean she is auditing other animators work
And oversee the process how little gets implemented into Unreal
Yep yep!
Ayy there we are
@still umbra
Wut
did u think update was out
Bruh
No
Happy birthday
thanks
chances of update this weekend?
ai slop
gross
😔
low
we don't bring that stuff here
@pseudo moat
What the bird doin?
freaking out
yes?
Hi
Herrera is a Triassic dinosaur aye?
So it could very well be feathered
But covered with fur like protofeathers
What a strange and cool sight to see a feathered Herrera
thats what happend to him
Sadly no
Although it would be cool if Trex could catch a Herrera while it's jumping on its face
But Dsync would probably would not allow that
because we're cool
nah theres atleast one hater statiscally
that is also true
I love dinosaurus
Well I have herpetophobia
Fear of reptiles.
But Its better to say that I had this phobia
Playing the Isle for me was like if an arachnophobiac plays as a spider in a spider survival horror game
how do sanctuaries work? i dont rly understand
They are little palm forests in specific areas and herbivores can get sanctuary mushrooms over there to get a perfect diet.
And juvenile carnivores can get to juveniles carnivores and herbivores there to eat and kill
how do the bees work? do they just NOT attack certain dinos or
they keep attacking me and im a baby deino
Then do not attack adult Troodons but anything larger than that they attack it.
A gator?
Gators are not welcomed in the sanctuaries
i keep finding them at night time and cant see where the bees come from 
From bee hives
I LIKE LIZARDS
dead again, well i couldnt get diet anyway so not like i was worth continuing
How did you die?
this "avoid infertility" is the biggest issue
As a gator?
died to a dino that happened to show up while i was logging, something big not getting attacked by bees, go figure
yuuup
Imagine finding a small alligator in a sanctuary that's a lucky day
my entire day is a "lucky day" man. ive had the worst luck today
Sanctuaries do not start where the trees begin the Sanctuary is inside the heart of the palm forest
Keep on trying
yet adult dinos camping sanc is wild
Troodons
i cant catch a break. lost my near adult deino last night, struggling all day today. when does it end 
i seen ceras doing it most of the time
Omni players are either the most spiteful creatures on the planet or the kindest guys in the isle
when you finally decide to play something other than deinosuchus
the dinnersuchus is quite literally in its worst time at the moment
you are playing the game on super ultra mega hard difficulty
this pattern is so peak
i tried herrera. just kinda played starving sim.
im sure i wasnt optimizing my gameplay. but it just dont feel the same
yeah unfortunately early herrera life is pretty painful, but then again, which animal doesnt have a painful early life
curse my desire to play things in poor situations... i do this in a lot of games...
also, anyone know when/if dondi said this?
true. and its not like it was particularly hard i can just lurk around a herbi heard and eat whoever is unfortunate enough to test the waters. i just didnt enjoy it too much
but maybe thats just my bad luck talking, i ended up killing someone, only for the body to phase through the rock they were standing on and fall into the void
Does anyone have a general idea as to when they’ll be adding sandbox in?
well. i heard deino is apparently getting an update sometime soon. guess ill come back to that when that happens? idk atp
maybe i just need a break, im sleep deprived lol
pure speculation, but if that's gonna happen after they add about every dino in the roster, I'd say in about 6-8 years (being optimistic), if not, then no clue
it is getting a kit rework, but it was said it was put on hold for this HT release.
HT?
Was there no Devblog?
No
The heck, why
Read announcements
Hordtest
horsetest
im assuming the name is self explanatory?
TenoTest
hordetest means hordes of players are allowed to test an upcoming update/patch
usually meant to test the servers and how they'd handle the horde of players joining them
Hordetest got it's name after Dondi embraced the fan made Troodon main community called the HORDE
though with all the recent coverage of the game, and the mass of players joining, i think they got all the server data they need and then some lmao
Galli?
It means new content farming
true
Beforehand it was called Stresstest
EVEN MORE TRUE
figured ok. well, i hope this "on hold" deino update isnt pushed too far into the future. my main influence in getting this game was the croc, no game so far has scratched that itch like this game does
it was called stress test
Yes sorry
this games adult croc is one of the best designed ones ive seen, pot cant compare, (one of the reasons i stopped playing)
Yea imagine if all those people were in a wave pool, it would be crammed
StressTest = Hordetest
And horsetest is the funny autocorrected version of Hordetest just like how car became cat
And cat became car
well i guess im getting some shuteye, goodnight server
The stress test was a bit different from the current hordetest structure
it WAS intended to be for the "public" to test
ended up being a ghost town because people only wanted to scrape content/play shiny stuff and then left after the first day or two
atleast people play HT after the first 2 days 
No way.. I highly doubt that.. (though I could be completely wrong seeing that the hope trailer showed the sucho in it 6 years ago and we still don’t have it..)
sucho was meant to come out alot sooner way back when, around update 3 i believe w/ PT and deino
it got shuffled around after Hope trailer came out, i doubt active development even really started on it beyond what most playables were getting at the time (models, skins, basic animations for rig testing)
i feel sad that i got pooped from the '2nd' ST team
is that the one that leaked the herrera picture
i remember that guy didn't get taken off lol
WHAT
one of those up start CCs that started recently but got big
That update schedule was false hope.. I don’t like trash talk this game, but that’s like genuinely a real nitpick. That trello was so bad.. ☠️
rex ai update 4...
@little moon
NO
@little moon
YES!!

@little moon
It genuinely shocks me how this was actually planned.. 💀
lol
It also still feels weird to me that most people I see now aren’t former legacy players.
I met a guy yesterday that couldn’t lunge as a deinosuchus lol.
I had to teach him how to do it.
There's a massive wave of new players so, figures lmao
Who the hell is siwy2405?
Like unprecedented wave of new players, probably the largest we had thus far
I’m not used to that at all, but I’m glad we have that.. this game’s getting the spotlight it deserves, honestly.
And why this moron is pinging this other roasted moron in every chatroom?
They didnt leave, they just stopped playing while waiting for the next content update
Why are you so angry about someone pinging another person? It has nothing to do with you..
Idek dawg they're a dino den player, just ignore it
I wish they’d add sandbox and that testing map already. I need a way to actually practice my Rex combat.
There's free growth servers to do that btw
The only server that works for me, is one that put a time limit on the Rex…..
Because he is pinging this steaming bawbag in every chatroom including the ones which are for sharing art
But I need like instant in and out fights. I’m not really one for finding a fight and wasting like 10 minutes. You know what I mean?
Mmmm yah I see
Some of you folks take pinging way too seriously. It’s discord.. relax.
Nothing in here amounts to the real world, unless it’s some crazy crap.
Why pinging someone in Fan Art for instance?
I would be pretty salty if I was the one getting spam pinged, but if it's someone else? 
Are you a mod?
No, it's just weird
Are you the one being pinged by this person?
No
Then why do you care? How do you know the person get pinged is annoyed? They could be friends.
Just relax, we don’t know the context of the situation.
it’s spam
You should be annoyed since you’re a mod.
I gotta individually delete each message, goddamn
He gets mad a lot tbf
You didn't see me mad yet and you won't see me mad
I was just confused about this spam
You do have a pretty short fuse from what I've seen
All I’m saying is that it’s none of his business in a way. I’m not trying to come off as mad, you’re just worrying about something that has nothing to do with you.
When Hordetest 
I'm telling myself that I won't play it (I will and I'm gonna hate every second of it)
You have to do a lot to truely get me mad
I wish I could play more, I’m emplo*ed.
It wasn't meant as a question 
Would be nice if Deinosuchus would be able to grab dinosaurs by the neck
would be nice if rex could pin the deino with its foot
Employment would do good for a lot of people here
So Rext would step on the gators head?
Including me 
yeah xd
How would that work ingame?
Like what would trigger that "sparing" animation
just pure speculation on my end, yes.
the pin mechanic, i simply gave you an absurd idea back when you gave one.
The day Bary and spino get added is the day that I truly come back to the game.
The rex grabbing creatures by the neck would make fighting super unfair against rex
is there a way to end ur self like a cmd or smth
im waiting for kentrosaurus 🔥
I don’t see why they’d add pinning on certain body parts.
fair, but imagine being a stego and you get insta grabbed by the neck and die in like 10 seconds
it should at least take a huge sum of stamina to do that, to make it somewhat fair.
Yeah, that’d be cool, but this is the same game that lets a deinosuchus, an animal with probably the strongest bite force in history, bite a stego in the head and not kill it..
deino gonna be giga's natural enemy, insane bleed res and good damage.
fair xd but it would just make pinslop worse
Well, deino can oneshot stego thanks to its high biteforce
It just needs the proper setup
My only real problem with the pin is that Rex slides like 5 meters past the thing it pins sometimes lol. It should drag that player with it.
In game or irl? Since when could an adult deino one tap an adult stego?
In game
Lunge it while it's swimming
That’s not technically a one tap. You as the deinosuchus don’t fully kill the stego on your own.
No one's helping you do it, so yes, you do it on your own
I mean, I guess so.
erm, I grab someone and my mixpack tears them apart??
when is the new hordetest dropping, since no devblog ;-;
Mods, ban this mixpacker

mmm... sky fish
Is there even a solution to fix mix packing for official servers? I remember the devs saying they’d make the game require no rules.
It's hard to come up with one
Hey g us
There are a few directions they could go, but I don't think any of them are feasible or desirable for what the game is trying to be.
The best potential option I’ve seen is from a Roblox game lmao. It’s called prior extinction and they added a stress system that kicked in when you stayed around different things for too long. They could use that kind of system, but I have no idea how they’d add this.
what are these little animals called that live in these?
psitaco
Tacos.
ohhh ok thanks
Admins i need help, literally just spawned and im in a rock, completely stuck
Would probably do more harm than good in the isle
That only really works for random occurances of mixpacking but does nothing to actually stop coordinated mixpacks, we see the same results in beasts of bermuda.
Just think of this all as a spitball. There has to be a way to get rid of these kinds of players.
What do I do if I get stuck in the game?
Type /unstuck
Use /unstuck
Then you’re just stuck for good I guess..
I named my Piplup Beipi
It would make it much more annoying to do long hunts that require wearing down an opponent, unless it takes an incredibly long time to kick in or has a short range, both of which kind of defeat the purpose
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
It would be extremely easy to design the mechanic in a way that doesn't have those issues...
How so? Also, as you said, it doesn't stop the coordinated mixpacks, which are the really bad ones
ewww
Cracka, it’s just an example.
We talking about mixing again? lol
I mean, aside from hackers and lag, it’s the biggest problem this game has.
Maybe I play small things too much to not notice 
Another mechanic or two, and some heavy handed structural changes would be needed to tackle the issue of coordinated mixpacks, but a stress system really isn't all that complicated. Limit its effects based on speed dynamics, so faster creatures with the option to leave are the ones who are punished severely, have some variation so if you are only slightly faster then both parties get punished lightly. Have damage thresholds present to allow for prolonged hunts, and just adjust those thresholds until it can't be directly exploited.
Plus, a stress mechanic has a lot of other options for gameplay beyond just any mixpacking/overpacking, and the positives of those effects, if well designed, and well implemented, shouldn't be dismissed out of a fear that players will try and abuse it.
That sure is an opinion.
we need Guinness in the isle
on tap??
on tap
damn..
What could I be missing?
Like update waiting times..?
I suppose, the big thing is the range though. If players are aware of the general range then I can imagine itd be relatively easy to stay out of the range and stay in sight of the mixpack buddies
T rex Dinosuchus and the raptor and allo should be removed

remove dibble
Thus... additional measures would be required to prevent coordinated mixpacks. But random or otherwise more egregious instances would be prevented. The mixpacking issue in BoB is still apparent but it's significantly reduced since the clans need to come in waves. You can win a single fight, and then the clan will send in backup, rather than dealing with every member of the mixpack simultaneously. It's just generally easier to deal with, and for a lot of existing groups, might not even be worth the trouble.
hey so i changed laptops recently, and i no longer have certain settings like DLSS and such, why?
deino player are kinda duechy
What is this debateslop?
Probably because your new laptop is using AMD graphics instead of Nvidia.
when you really start thinking about the mixpacking dilemma, the more you start to understand why the devs haven't had a direct solution yet
its using nvidia though
players*
The more I think about it the more I realize that a solution will never be added because to actually solve it would require significantly changing the foundations of the game, and that simply isn't going to happen.
no, you just keep running into the deuchy ones because they eat the rest of us
im using a 1050 ti so
nah as a total they are
screw it, scorched earth again, Evrima 2
Oh, well the gtx cards aren't capable of DLSS so that's not surprising.
oof
I have yet to run into one thats not when they are small yes but thats only because they can easily be killed
when you are sitting down as a trex are others able to hear the noises the trex makes
you gotta forgive them, it's a rough world in the rivers. we get real hungry
not really when its the apex of the delta system
what's so bad about that?
yes
alr
When playing the isle, do you get a massive migraine?
rex breathing like a fat guy staring at a twinkie
nothing but when you know your the big bad dont be a douche especially if when what your killing isnt gonna even move your hunger bar
Only when I see a Pachy
desperation drives animals wild
Did they get rid of the pterodactylus trees?
i did when i played it, whenever that last was
irl yes this is a game there's not a reason
competition
I can think of one: red stomach
and?
where can i find the new hotspots since i recently got back in the game and they change the map a lot
Where can I find pterodactylus now?
"and?" he says after given a reason
if there is barely enough food for one or two deino then do you think they would want any more around to steal the food?
they are missing for the time being
you manage your hunger bar poorly thats your fault
bro, I am begging you to play Deino and see how wrong that is
The
i have its called eat boar and dont just stay in delta
deinos that kill beipis are stupid
not because theyre killing something so innocent that gives so little, but because theyre not taking advantage of how the beipi could be used to attract even larger prey, or at least distract them
or deer
boar is not on their diet, nor can they chase after boar
its not that hard
a beipi - deino dynamic where beipi attracts food and the deino potects it works so well but no one ever uses it
how often do boar or deer go into the water? the answer is not often, they cannot chase anything on land either
they outrun deinos, bro
It is, deinos can not chase boar, and whrn u kill them u have to wait 25minuten for it to spoil and getvdiets
hi
if your struggling that's more of a skill issue
Its just people who never play a deino that think its like every othet one
Because most deinosuchus players are not smart enough to conceive this concept in their brain. I’m saying this as a deinosuchus player lmao.
where can i find the new hotspots since i recently got back in the game and they change the map a lot
just like dying to a deino 
Play deino and say its skill issue lol dude thinks deino as fast on land as it is in water
Anyhow FUH deino where bary
they are relatively one of the easiest dinos if i can survive in swamp without going red on the hunger bar those previous reasons are just excuses
ok... do it
i have the moment i decide to go to delt insta duches
skill issue
How oftrn u play deino, u knowbthat deinos ONLY food aource right noe is other deinos right? Fish spawn is broken so no diets, every other ai outruns deino on land and not on diet
if you suck yea
this is prime ragebait, he gettin all of us
Ye just ignore him lol

lol
he isnt baiting, deino is a noob class
Eh, I disagree that its only food source is other Deions. It’s really just luck. I played on official U.S. 8 yesterday and got pretty lucky with players coming by.
As a 60kg deino is hard to hunt anything
Ye exactly
Allo and rex as well
It also depends on your playstyle. I’m good with semi aquatics and can actually grow a deino first try most of the time. I’ve also been playing this game since 2018.. so like, that also helps a bit..
either way they need to be removed with the addition of rex their existance isnt needed anymore
I grow them as well hahaha it isnt impossible its just luck
Ragebait used to actually be good.
Nah he is right, deino and rex play same, same as cera and allo

its the reality of situation
Ngl he sounds like an allo main
Cera needs the biggest nerf imaginable. There is no reason a SCAVENGER is this strong.
no
I mean it is a fat scavanger i think cera is fine tbh
who cares anymore, I JUST GOT MY FIRST TROO PRIME
Tbf scavenger doesn’t mean weak
Cera isnt really scavanger
True, but I don’t think it should be as deadly as it is rn.
how is it deadly, its in a good spot for a mid tier
The only thing that annoys me is allo, copy paste omni
The thing with Cerato is it needs the mobility to avoid the things it can’t fight but also be able to push things away from it without chasing them
It just runs around the map as a fricken killing machine. I just think there needs be a small change for an animal of that size. Sure, I could be wrong because I’m a deino main, but from the stuff I’ve seen, it’s fricken crazy.
true but omnis besically have aimbot with the latching mechanic
still havent explained how its too good
Mannnnn where is barrrrrryyyyyy
I mean Cerato is capable of eating rotten meat and gains its bacteria directly from it. It’s less of a scavenger that can’t hunt so relies on scraps
And more of “I eat everything because I’m gluttonous and don’t care about what it is. I’m eating”
I just don’t feel the need to debate some random on a discord rn..
I still want a scavenger mutation for PT
nice make a claim and dont back it w

Allo bite machinegun speed
Allos bite speed does need to be lowered

You can’t come in this chat and really say how you feel about something without someone trying to debate you every time..
YESSSS, AMERICASAAAAA
Well of course people are gonna ask you for a reason why schlawg that's how a conversation works
skill issue
bro all i asked was "why do you think cera is too strong" and u couldnt say lol
If you could please take a look at the name of the channel.

aww still thinkin about that? 😂
Please note the word "discussion" and how it implies a... discussion, or a back and forth.
I just think that an animal marked as “scavenger” should not be able to do all the things it’s doing. It’s just a little bit too strong in my personal opinion.
i just got back, what am i thinking about?
but what IS it doing, ur not saying anything
Guys dryo is way too strong and needs nerfing (don't ask me why I think this im not saying)
🤣
Sure 🤣
Has any body had any luck disabling fog completely?
That would be cheating?
Yeah but it makes the game look awful so uh... no.
I've got it don't worry. Finally. I'm trying to create a map. 🙂
Oh, a custom map.
It is true that Don said dryo and galli are the most skill needing playables in the game 
Top down map for livemap on a custom server. 🙂
I love Gali it's so fun 😊 kicking the living daylights out of people
How the isle looks on epic settings?
Ohh okay. Just replay with clouds off at the right weather?
It's all good sorted now.
You won't know because your pc will explode and you will die in a house fire
Up to the individual.
the same as it does on medium
This is evrima on epic with everything maxed. It looks good. I'm on 2080 super, i9 9900k, 32gb 3600mhz ddr4 ram. It's not that mad but it does get hungry. I can't get over 100fps really.
I gained about 20fps just by turning off plant physics
1080p or 1440p
100fps with epic damn I get about 100fps on low settings 😂
1080p of course lol
Figured.
lol
i have it off and the settings i used and do use on and lost more than half of my fps then yesterday
I should of mentioned that you guys are probably paying on 4k monitors 🤣
Damn
I play on 1080p
and i still dont know why 😭
I don't need fancy screens
I play with 2560 x 1600 and the game ui is so silly... 🥀
Hp 27f monitor it's no gamer monitor but it does the trick
Its 3440x1440 so... technically no.
I hope Samsung s27 ultra has like 16GB ram and 8gb vram next year
Then I can run more pc games on it :p
That is like what I currently have to work with on my laptop.
But at least the vram is set up so that it can spill over.
My phone has a higher HZ than my pc monitor lmao
I just feel like its playstyle is way too aggressive for what it is. Sure, I could be wrong and that’s just my opinion.
what is love
Who will come out next hmmmmm
Probably Austroraptor
The allosaurus.
is it a dish ?
i think it can be spinosaur or dolphin
Camerea
Why do those bushes look so photoreal?
Big boi
So this is epic graphic settings
30-45 tons for sure
hmm yes
but how lol
As long as deino can't drag it I'm fine 😂
Is herrara immune to fall DMG?
Nearly so.
no
They can yeet themselves from so high up
You can still die from falls that are really really really high.
I’ll see them taking fights they have no business actually winning. I’ve always seen them dog walking carnos.
Many Cera Vs 1 carno?
carnos are ment to be weaker pretty sure, carno diet consists of small tiers
btw, how do you switch between damage and bleed pounce for omni?
once you reach a certain height threshold, the landing marker will show a legbreak symbol
Ahhh gotcha Ty
Yeah carno is small dino hunter
Bro, if we dont get a dinosaur that knows proper kung Fu, ima be upset. Galli and Troodon DO NOT COUNT
Next update master Ugway
Mono will be a monk
I Really hope Austro has a lil bit of Taiquando in him, cause he needs some self defence classes at that slender sizee X
But still, I just see them always taking fights they have no business actually winning and they still come out on top. What I’m saying is that for a “scavenger” it’s really good at killing many things. Again, that’s just how I feel about it.
Well if a pack of Dino's fights something it's gonna win against 1 Dino most of the time
That's just how the cookie crumbles
ye just like a pack of omnis can probably kill a lone apex if they good
Well yeah, I’m just saying that cera’s playstyle, from what I’ve seen, is just very aggressive.
if ur saying a cerato can face tank then ur wrong lol
It's an aggressive scavenger and opportunist attacker. It's still quite easy to fold if you know how to use the dino you are playing
Once you bait it to waste it's bacteria it's a sitting duck
No, lol.
I guess.
herreras tend to get that one mut what converts fall damage to stamina
Yeah makes sense.
I've sent a pack of 3 ceras running with just using troodon
Going pretty well so far... It's gonna take a few hours but I've made 3 stiches and it's looking good!
Poisoned them all and they fled

Oh, neat.
Yeah I'm hand stitching and blending so each area is a top down 3d perspective across the whole thing.

prime raptor lf a daddy to nest with and setup some raptor packs 😄
whats the name of those tiny green jumping dinos? are thet npc?
Your name says what i feel
npcs, they're compies and are harmless
Compsognathus, and yeah.
Compsognathus.
nompsognathus
🤣

yall dino nerds huh. no offence of course
I wear that title with pride
aint no way kazuma saying that
as you should
lalatina gonna beat yo ahh
who are you talking about?
Glorp...
I don't think bro watched the show.
fake kazuma ig

ROWLET!!!
what anime is this from?
one piece
Servus, is Hordetest(stresstest) live?
not yet
finally caught on huh?
so no devblog and no stresstest 🙁 😉
I’m willing to bet you were just like 5 pixels from that hitbox.
Holy crap.
Stresstest? Yeah we stopped with those a few years back 😁
But I think the devs should also take a few days off every now and then.
Now its all about the 🐴
yeah almost got a heartattack
i wasnt even playing, and i crapped myself for you xD
the worst ambush ever lol
hordetestign
sry im old ^^
can yall still see the vid? this channel dont allowed vid or wht
He didn’t even lunge correctly and still got close asf. 💀
Not the crossover you were expecting.
can you make a render of dondi as freddy fazbear
funtime dondi perhaps
wtf lois griffin is typing
Freddy five bear?
i think he shouldnt be here
Freddy fabear lyrics har har ha har har...
Here it is with the VHS effect.
Poor troodon spawned inside a tree and fell trough the map 💔
looks so cool!
But tenonto hasn't gotten that many changes lately
Excuse you tenonto is a DONKEY
Tbf Teno is an animal I feel is in a solid spot
how many heli pads are there in gateway map?
Teno is quick and agile.
He's just confused.
Oh I agree, I was making a joke about teno being the closest thing the isle has to an equine
Same thing
or maia
Maia is a cow
Maia is a cow yeah
never made the connection in my head lol
Someone here hasn’t heard about maia milk
Does that make Para a moose
No shant is a moose
or a deer?
Bro Shant is an elephant
Shant is either a moose or a camel for me
Shant has always given me moose vibes
Moolephant
Elephoose
Especially its concept
moose coded
is there a thing that can detect another dino cause i'm lying down in a bush completely hidden. and it's pitch dark even with NV. this mf came running and killed me
could it hear you?
all creatures make noise when laying down tho
Either it heard you (some creatures are rather loud when lying down) or they were using an esp hack
I wonder if he will be able to break bones because I was thinking recently that only anky herbivores would be able to break bones
Dilo is quiet I think.
Or secret third option you were bleeding and they smelled the blood
yeah but cant be heard from far away right?
What species and age were you and did you just sit down or have you been there for a while?
If that happened on official, likely esp.
rex about 49% and yes im sitting the for a while
Rex is rather loud at rest
Official au 3
imma be honest i feel like dilo is standing in a very weak spot these days 😭
rex is loud while resting tbh
yeah gets louder compared to while he's small
Its likely they just heard you since rex is especially loud when sitting down
So its very possible that they heard you. What was it that killed you?
a dinosaur
rex with a fancy eyes
Hm. Well I would just say that if you're wanting to actually hide, crouch instead of laying down
didn't know that. i'll remember
Mhm. And for things that can't crouch, standing still in a hidden area can work

first time playing herra how do i launch myself off trees
Hold right click to aim and press space to jump
If you want to attack something make sure you’re holding right click and looking down the whole time
Yeah, it's venom being bugged and the fact it's vulnerable to Raptor damage pounce makes it really discouraging to wanting to play it
I think Dilo is also really bleed vulnerable too if memory serves 
do do do da da doo do da da da
ah okay ty
are u ok bro?
sweet little render what will you want to be do do do da da do do do da da
chill bro chill
it is and like u can barely do anything alone which is kinda upsetting as a solo dilo main
we will get ht soon chill
my pc does NOT LIKE ME
Question for anyone that knows. If memory serves, Congenital Hypoalgesia doesn't actually care if the your species in general grows larger than the species attacking you, only if the thing attacking you is larger than you at the moment.
For example sake; Let's say I'm a 2 Ton Dibble with Congenital and I'm getting attacked by a 2.6 Ton Allo. Congenital would still apply in this scenario, right?
Yes. If targets is bigger then you, mutation works
It wouldn't really work if it was based on species, especially because of elders
guys when will horde drop
When its ready
When you stop asking
Exactly like that but it scales with size difference, so you dont get full 15% reduced if its 2t vs 2.2t for example
I feel like the server is omega easy to grow on
Aight, just wanted to confirm. Thank you!
Oh that I didn't know. Appreciate the insight 
Like for example a fg rex actually deals more damage to a stego (stego has congen) than a peak prime rex because of how it works, despite prime rex having more bite force
x1.25 + every spawn of AI is x3
Isn't a 75 percent rex still bigger than a prime stego?
Very slightly, prime steg is 9.3 rex is like 9.4 ish, so congenital applies less due to the explanation I gave above. It scales up to 15% reduction with size difference
Ah I see, I didnt know it took the difference in size into account
I love having fried eggs at 10pm 🙂
If it was flat 15% it would be too strong in close size matchups, like cera v teno, or rex v trike even
Ive actually had a strat I've been applying on PvP servers with Trike where I wouldn't go the full 12.5 Tons/87.5% but would do 80%-85% with Congenital lmao. Glad to hard confirm that it actually had been doing something 
I actually managed to kill a peak Prime Rex as a 75% Trike, but I don't remember if I had Congenital for that fight 
Issue with your strat on trike is that trike can only stun same size rex, so a prime rex becomes very impossible to fight if it knows even a tiny bit what its doing
Its not like diablo where it can stun 2x its size
guys update today trust 🙏
This Rex did, how 'good' they actually were is hard to gauge cause no rankings/ELO obviously but I've seen them on the PvP server a lot and they usually do good work. I think what mainly kept me in the fight was just making him spar and winning those engagements.
He did still manage to pummel me though and I thought I was toast but Ive noticed a lot of 'good' Rexs so to speak really don't respect the upper half of your body once you're leg fractured and I managed to nuke him with Thrash.
I do really dislike how skewed the MU favors Prime Rex against young adult/75%ish Trike considering that Trike is forced to take that engagement.
Id need to Test and see what the actual Stun Threshold is for myself for adult Trike. I believe I saw it was a 1 ton above your weight when 75% which is unfortunate but I'd like to hard confirm this for myself once I get the chance.
How else would the matchup go? The rex has 3 tons on the trike
I do think that prime rex should be slower and more reliant on ambushes but, even then there's not a situation I can see where a 75 percent trike wouldn't be disadvantaged against a prime rex in a straight up fight
Same way 3 ton dibble vs 4 ton rex goes. Same proportions. Idk why trike doesnt have a bigger stun threshold
Trike and dibble are different playables that play differently
And if you were to make trike have the same stun thresholds as dibble itd be busted, especially as more large playables come in
Never said it would be the same
The logic for why it plays out the way it is now is there, but the issue I take is Trike is forced to take that fight in most/all circumstances which isn't really 'fair'. Yes this game is not always fair but there's a line to be drawn on your ability to fight/flee/hide from a threat. Adult Trike is not built to flee nor hide, so getting spotted means you're gonna have to accept that incredible odds of a fight.
Now, part of that issue also has less to do with the MU balancing of Trike V Rex and moreso that a lot of Primes are wickedly overtuned atm.
A 75% trike can take on a full grown prime Rex, it just depends on a lot of factors
would be nice if patrol zones and migration zones would freaking work in this game, who enjoys this? not me, please work on the main things
wasting my time, walking online simulator
Then don’t play the game if you don’t like it
why do you even talk to me
you can come back later if the game is not enjoyable to you right now
Hi
I agree that prime rex is overtuned in some ways, but my point is more so that a trike is going to be disadvantaged there no matter what, specifically because it seems its meant to be on relatively even footing against rexes its same size. So a prime rex is going to be a lot more dangerous comparatively
game is not working? zones not working ?
Game is working get over it 
bro you stuped shut up please
the game is working just fine
patrols zones and migration zones not working dude what are you smoking.
Right, I understood you, a change is needed is my point.
they are working 
They are working, and the game itself is working just fine. Stop being a cry baby who throws insults around 
O OF THE DAY

Tomorrow is 11x 🔥
Man thats crazy.
Size will always matter when it’s apex vs apex, I do love the way the Rex/trike matchup is currently. Although Rex flavoured, it’s a cool idea. A confident trike in a good position defensively will do wonders
I'm eating your wifi and ethernet tomorrow
Where da clip brotato chip 💔
hi potentially lacker
I’ve been outta home 💔
But when I’m back I’ll get you the clip where we kill TWO PRIME REXES AND TWO PRIME STEGOS AND 2 SUB TRIKES AND A TENO AS 3 CERAS
skuuunk! hi!
hi skunkinarug
Sorry did I say allat out loud 
Hi soul!! Hi pige!!
Having a life in the isle community? Unacceptable
Its fine tho, take ur time
Lol
have they ever mentioned expanding the oceans at all
eventually
Yes but not playables
Yes, it’ll be more coastal expansion but not actual ocean
ok cool
Where can I find the road map again? Someone sent it awhile back and I lost it
Heleo
There isnt one.
oh
The devs don't use roadmaps anymore.
We know the dinosaurs that they are working on and that’s about it
Oh alr
From last october or so
Tbh i have no idea how they are funding dev costs
When's Rex coming out?
I assume out of pocket
They be indie
This is definitely gonna take me all day and night 🤣
what are you doing
especially since it seems we are getting map changes right away
What!?
biiig map changes
I love map changes
did you see any of the clips/screenshots from dons recent stream?
Ill just give up
When are they changing the map? 🤦♂️
next update
Whenever HT releases
Theyre adding redwoods

That’s smth that’s incredible btw, every other dinosaur game that tried to take on the full realism flopped due to lack of funds. Or money running out. Here we got a team that knows their priority
I wouldn’t mind a new map to be honest well map changes*
Well this is good practice any way 🤣
I seen servers where are. Proximity voice chat. waht servers are
First one then the other! We'll get there
Bosch
if I had to guess, dondi himself funds the whole team because of how passionate he is of getting this game goin, but a lot of the devs could also be chipping in their own way
thats the server ? is it usa or eu ?
Dino games can be surprisingly lucrative.
Usa i think. You need Mumble
Wouldn’t be surprised if someone had another job to help with funding
The one other being Saurian... and that one fell apart because a team member ran off with the money, not because of misprioritization of development funds.
i was just researching and i saw this
They also managed funds badly, him running off killed it
