isle-discussion

[lost citrus]

huh?
people nest more often now

[vapid pumice]

people are quick to try and get that extra requirement if they end up going infertile

[icy slate]

not in my exp? maybe just not on any of the servers i play

[light cedar]

Simply because it is now possible to create nests as a sub-adult and because of the mutation for asexual reproduction.

[icy slate]

ah yea, pieds has that disabled

[lost citrus]

I mean it's not like there is a ton of nesting, but more than before

[light cedar]

It's just easier to create a nest, but it's still terrible due to the current state of the game.

[lost citrus]

I thought you just said you hadn't played in a while

[light cedar]

I know this game like the back of my hand.

[glacial lotus]

played as troodon today never in my life did i feel happier and far more superior as a tiny tier

[cursive rampart]

Troodons are scary

[glacial lotus]

THEY R SO FUNN

[vapid pumice]

get a pack of like 8 and go after a fresh adult rex

[teal mist]

The isle

[vapid pumice]

100 damage per stage 3 pounce goes crazy

[lost citrus]

I love troodon, it's fun to hunt with carno

[feral shadow]

pachy is so fun

[lost citrus]

please, everyone play more troodon

[feral shadow]

pachy vs carno is one of the most fun matchups in the game

[small holly]

when i click join server it tries to connect for about 2 seconds then sends me back to the server list without an error. anyone else getting this?

[vapid pumice]

i will never forget the day i managed to ram like 8 troodons at one time as carno

NV rework just dropped, docks was new, it was a blast. there were 8 troodons resting up on the pipe, and i managed to get up there and go bowling

carno rework was also new that update

[lost citrus]

lol nice

[feral shadow]

troodon is funny to play but REALLY annoying to fight

[vapid pumice]

i think one of the troodons was AverageSpy

[light cedar]

Troodons should have a speed of 65 km/h

[feral shadow]

it does?

[warm lily]

lowk bring this back

[light cedar]

I hate how that version was more functional and fun than the current one.

[warm lily]

lowk much more skill based too

[feral shadow]

I managed to lay eggs with troodon with parthenogenesis

[light cedar]

fr

[feral shadow]

I little while back I dont imagine it was broken only in the patches

[somber urchin]

should report it. first i've heard of it not working

[feral shadow]

Same

[novel valley]

Just wait for the feeling until you first solo something 10x your size🥹

The adrenaline is unmatched

[light cedar]

Back when shaders did their damn job.

[novel valley]

The server might be full, keep refreshing and if you see an empty spot, try joining
Large servers have insane amount of traffic, so if you see it display 397/400 it might actually be full by the time you try to connect

[light cedar]

And when the vegetation rendering distance also works.

[vapid pumice]

new grass will be peak with better render distance

[feral shadow]

yes yes

[inland furnace]

the isle i think

[regal notch]

Guys where Bary :c

[outer plank]

Next dev log hopefully

[regal notch]

Today is tomorrow so like... he should be here q.q

[misty pivot]

hi

[regal notch]

Bye

[teal mist]

hi

THE hi

[feral shadow]

somone called bary a chud earlier btw

[regal notch]

I will wet their socks and heat their pillow, where

[haughty quail]

gawd damn

[manic fulcrum]

The point should be that you should be entertained throughout all your growth not just when you are adult. Which is what the elder system is intended to do. To make you do things during growth to keep you engaged instead of sitting in a bush all day. Do I think it needs work? Yes. But for the most part I think the foundation is good

But multiple things have to be changed or fixed for it to feel good

[regal notch]

#general-feedback message

e.e.... 👉 👈

[autumn current]

How is dibble supposed to survive rex

[rare crane]

uhhh run

[nimble raven]

atm it has the opposite effect lol, im just stressin over getting prime or else it'll be a pain to play the game later in life lol

[regal notch]

That's why I think prime shouldn't be a buff, just negate frail instead

[fresh tartan]

How did we lose this?

[feral shadow]

here you go

[regal notch]

I should've known it was you saying this kinda slander

It would be a rem player 😏

[manic fulcrum]

Most of these issues would go away if MZ’s and PZ’s didn’t contradict each other….and also if they worked in general

[vapid pumice]

baryonyx will be playable atleast

rats will remain ai and will exist solely to feed baby carnivores

which fate is worse, i will let thou decide

[regal notch]

Besides, nobody gives an f about Ovi

[regal notch]

If anything I've seen more people not want it LOL

[haughty quail]

hows the state of the game?

[regal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-melt-homer-scary-homer-simpson-gif-14406097969544844310

[feral shadow]

unfinished

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-mistake-no-way-false-404error-gif-26596374

[potent night]

Is it true? is it really really true? does trike no longer get leg fractured from head bites from rex?

[regal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragon-ball-movie-super-saiyan-vegeta-gif-10174829483121431628

[potent night]

OH MY GOD IT IS

WE ARE SO BACK

[dense swan]

Need hordetest…

[crude girder]

Still dies to 1 rex unless the rex is just really really bad

[teal mist]

Yeah

[vapid pumice]

i dont think the rex needs to be really bad. ive noticed trikes in general seem to do a bit better against rex after some of the sparring bug fixes. the trike still needs to do alot more than the rex to win, but i think the difference between them has closed slightly

[leaden cobalt]

I need my update please

[burnt glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[leaden cobalt]

We need something

[lost musk]

2 skins worse than eachother 💔

O OF THE DAY

[regal notch]

Gives dryo burrowing suddenly

[leaden cobalt]

Give dryo a hat

[lost musk]

We need AUSTRORAPTOR

[uneven finch]

do the pterodactylus work at all when carrying fish as ptera?

i've tried multiple times but not having any luck

[real pendant]

Can’t wait for rats

[half jacinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860702568145354795/1335079313266966689/attachment.gif

[lost musk]

They’re on their semi annual break

[uneven finch]

damn it, I have so much trouble finding turtles and psittas

[lost citrus]

I just listen for the taco screams

[halcyon burrow]

south end of the map around the pit usually has a ton of psittas, can find turtles around the shores there too

[uneven finch]

I unfortunately don't know what calls the psittas make

plus going to the pit is such a long flight from the usual ptera spawn lol

[haughty quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIwYDl3DOdw

[uneven finch]

Oh THAT'S what that call is, thanks a ton

[stable atlas]

i love the little things like the rainbows after a storm

[real pendant]

Taco evrima simulator would be so peak

[lavish ledge]

@kindred zodiac please can we have an update its been 1.2 months now

[real pendant]

Bro don’t ping the devs for something like that, they are hard at work :/

[lavish ledge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme

[real pendant]

?

[haughty quail]

u can find em a ton at south plains and this area

[uneven finch]

Hopefully I can get a decent glide over to there to grow with perfect diet

Can pteras dig burrows or will I just have to ambush one?

[dusty rose]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-and-ok-and-whole-sqaud-gif-22248092

[haughty quail]

dig burrows

[real pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-jjk-jjk-season-3-stress-exhausted-gif-15677899247582517579

[somber urchin]

the devs are working on an update(as stated in the devblog) and while punch is pingable, he's the community manager. i would presume he doesnt do updates himself.
and if the update was finished, we'd have it.

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/head-empty-cat-dumb-stupid-dumb-cat-gif-7569208462589859122

[uneven finch]

I did see the devblog about the quetz, is it's size shown compared to other dinos at all?

[slate trellis]

i find it so crazy that we're demanding an update after 1.2 months 😭

[haughty quail]

people are bored

[slate trellis]

zomboid got like one update last year

[wheat moth]

Not really. We can guesstimate it, though.

[haughty quail]

zomboid has mods support

[slate trellis]

i dont play modded

[uneven finch]

Looks like a full adult might be tall enough to look a rex in the eyes

[vapid pumice]

probably, yah

[haughty quail]

that dont matter lol a lot of people do and its free content for devs

[slate trellis]

likely but it wont outweigh anything beyond a pachy

[slate trellis]

🤷‍♂️

[uneven finch]

oh of course lol, quetz already had a ridiculous body shape to be able to fly

[slate trellis]

can frail stego fight any rexes

[vapid pumice]

you could probably do well against a sub

[wheat moth]

The bleed still hurts.

[haughty quail]

good stego yes

if u run into a prime ur dead

[slate trellis]

im not a good stego, can you give me pointers

[haughty quail]

i dont play stego unfortunatly but i know when i see a stego as a rex i just bait a lot

[slate trellis]

the stego itself is prime but its just not in that weight range yet

[haughty quail]

just dont get baited make sure ur hits land and the bleed will do its thing

[tribal yoke]

Question about the elder system, if i log out at any point before elder will i lose my progress??

[wheat moth]

No.

[tribal yoke]

didnt think so, but with this game you can never be too sure

[wheat moth]

That would be mad if you couldn't log out. Growing a rex or a deino would sleep deprive you

[slate trellis]

this is a half-cook but i swear to god if you leave before finishing one of the numerical ones it wont count

like if you get 1/2 migration zones i swear it wont count

[tribal yoke]

WHAT

[slate trellis]

i have zero proof it just feels that way

[tribal yoke]

also im in a patrol zone rn (even though it doesnt show up as one rn) does that still count???

[wheat moth]

Yup.

[slate trellis]

i dont do the pz req that often but probably?

[tribal yoke]

ok thank god
dude this game is driving me crazy

whats the best way to get prime at a mid tier
im struggling so bad rn, im on my forth try

[wheat moth]

Migration and Patrol zones on the compass aren't showing up, but the areas are fixed, and will count towards your prime requirements.

[regal notch]

keep moving

[wheat moth]

There's no real trick to it. Just know where things are, go to a sanctuary before sub-adult, and don't become infertile.

Kouga has a video covering prime and its requirements on YouTube if you want more info.

[coarse nimbus]

sanc, perfect diet, and moving around the map for the most part. i dont really think of the requirements much anymore lol it makes it easier to prime

[lucid urchin]

Refer to rule #10 in #rules-and-info

Don't ask for ETAs. You're allowed to ping Punch, just not for that reason.

[shrewd sinew]

i wonder if they will ever fix the broken climbing?
considering i just climbed a rock and fell off the FLAT TOP of the rock and was thrown back down to the floor 4 times in a row

[tribal yoke]

Ive done just about everything that people have been saying to do
(perfect diet, always have at least one diet, 2 Mz, 4Pz, no spasms and visit a sanc) If this doesnt work im not going to pick up this game again till the next big update istg

[lost musk]

LIMA LIMA HAVE YOU HEARD THE NEWS

[lucid urchin]

[tight lynx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1475269212934242404/image0.gif

[lost musk]

austroraptor crest color is

is BLUE, its blue its BLUE

[lucid urchin]

[lost musk]

NO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND

[lucid urchin]

Press caps lock again.

[lost musk]

no you dont understand

[terse oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-walking-away-patrick-leaving-patrick-not-caring-patrick-dgaf-patrick-star-gif-18088871825132921421

[lucid urchin]

Enlighten me.

[coarse nimbus]

dont check list it. if you want to really get it secured just go to south and travel to the pond near the WR sanc and the spawn point in the south near the beach a couple times and you'd be set after sanc and diet

[lost musk]

look

[tribal yoke]

Ill definitely try this, thank you
they sure dont make this easy on you

[lucid urchin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/schittscreek-pop-tv-3JXLaVtgFTTycirGAW

[lost musk]

but its blue

[regal notch]

ngl that's more green

[lucid urchin]

Well aware.

[lost musk]

its the LIGHTING dont you dare say its GREEN

[terse oriole]

It's turquoise

[wheat moth]

Well, if you want to split hairs a bit, it's actually more of a teal than a proper blue.

[coarse nimbus]

bluish green acshually lol

[regal notch]

it green

[lost musk]

its turquo

hey who already said that

[coarse nimbus]

bluish green is in fact also correct terminology for it haha

[coarse nimbus]

also hiiiii leooo

[somber urchin]

[lost musk]

but that sounds not smart sciencey

[coarse nimbus]

no it's smart artistry

[lucid urchin]

For the record, I'm not calling the colour trash. The way Leo said it reminded me of that gif.

[silk sleet]

where'd you get this render? :o

[lucid urchin]

Blender. Photoshop. Then my file explorer.

[coarse nimbus]

also hii pigeoon

[silk sleet]

its so good

[crude girder]

Mocha

[lucid urchin]

Thank you. I make things.

[coarse nimbus]

Bear

[crude girder]

SPLOINKY

[silk sleet]

oh yeahh i've seen the bary jwe one, these are fantastic

[lucid urchin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/theoffice-the-office-tv-secretarys-day-wjBMdDqMCyxJoCJ2yZ

[silk sleet]

Igward

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-dog-roblox-sigma-cool-gif-357689131097072834

[wheat moth]

Apparently it's veering even further into the greens than teal and turquoise

[lucid urchin]

Opens Blender

[real pendant]

Any of yall have the anky concept art?

[boreal jungle]

would prime anky even be bad ? think about it. U are already slow. U are gonna have more health

surely old prime anky ur just being more tanky?

[wheat moth]

Prime is always a benefit. Did you mean frail?

[boreal jungle]

not prime elder. Prime elder you are better then frail but not as strong as peak prime

[lucid urchin]

This is the colour from the Official model.

[boreal jungle]

like a peak prime anky im sure is gonna be wild

[wheat moth]

Yeah, definitely more green. Adding a higher contrast seems to make it appear more blue-ish, as we see in the tints here.

[lucid urchin]

Yeaahh

[coarse nimbus]

bluuuueeish greeeeeeen

[wheat moth]

I suppose you won't be as 'fast' or strong, but your weight, and subsequently, your health will remain, and if the weight thresholds at all factor into what you can and can't bone-break, it'll 100% be a boon.

[halcyon dove]

weight does affect what you can or cant fracture, you cant fracture stuff 1.5x? your weight

likely varies on the dino as to what you can or cant fracture with 1.x weight

[wheat moth]

Ah, cool. Then anky will thrive as a prime.

[halcyon dove]

if they make anky a fracture stego, then yes anky will likely "require" prime to not be obliterated by the island

cus just like stego, not being able to stun something as anky will let that something murderize you

[real pendant]

Ty bestie

[wheat moth]

I'm really looking forward to seeing how the team handles the 'hunker down' ability and how much protection it will offer.

[boreal jungle]

lets keep this a secret 😉 the devs will never know

[halcyon dove]

let me go find what the dondinator9000 said, hes commented on it before

[wheat moth]

[zinc abyss]

It doesn’t make any sense for Stego to knock over and Ank to not. Stego’s force isn’t multiplied by its tail, it’s just a vehicle to impale

[tribal yoke]

OH MY GOD I GOT PRIME FINALLY

[halcyon dove]

im confused, whatre you trying to say?

[lost musk]

UGHHH its always blueish green but NEVER greenish blue

[loud jay]

where are devs, havent seen them for over a month

[zinc abyss]

That even if they’re a fracture herb they’ll still knock over

[wheat moth]

I think they thought you meant "fracture stego" was a conflict between the two species.

[halcyon dove]

yeah? why wouldnt anky be able to stun stuff?

[zinc abyss]

But if I’ve misinterpreted who you were talking about that’s on me

[lost musk]

am i hungry or not

[plain thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[zinc abyss]

Tyty. That is what happened

[plain thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/very-good-gif-11417951659847615064

[halcyon dove]

im not saying that anky wont be able to stun cus it fractures, im saying it "requires" prime to be able to stun the things that will be able to kill it as being able to stun stuff is based on a multiplier tied to your weight

[toxic mist]

That's my opinion but In this game, the graphics achieved with Unreal Engine 4 were surprisingly better than those obtained with Unreal Engine 5.

We go from this image 1 in Unreal Engine 4 to image 2 in Unreal Engine 5, it's frankly depressing.

[wheat moth]

[zinc abyss]

I hope that, like Crocs, they account for the force multiplier to flip the common logic you’re describing here on its head. Croc bite force scales almost next to its weight until about 45%

I see no limiter that says they couldn’t do something similar with specifically tail crush attacks

[lost musk]

used to have this btw

[plain thicket]

Why not give it a try?

[wheat moth]

Gosh, that deino screenshot is nice...

[lucid urchin]

Funny you bring up that drawing. It's Fred's. A dev for The Isle lol

[toxic mist]

the isle on unreal engine 4 ?

[halcyon dove]

i hope anky isnt stunnable the same way deino isnt because theyre so close to the ground

[lucid urchin]

That's UE5.

[zinc abyss]

Based prediction tbh

[plain thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-face-look-gif-23508962

[halcyon dove]

i cant find it, dondi said something like about it like "its not perfect but itll stop alot" or something like that

[wheat moth]

No worries. I appreciate you looking for it.

[halcyon dove]

or maybe it was kissen? cant remember. was a long time ago

[lost musk]

nah 5 i think

[lucid urchin]

But I'll definitely innovate in my renders. I'm not to that point yet. Plus, adding those models into a drawing would prove difficult to make convincing.

[carmine rose]

what hunker down ability

[coarse nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-19575284

[halcyon dove]

its in its concept, it lays down and covers all the parts of its body that doesnt have the plates on it

[carmine rose]

what dino anky?

[carmine rose]

ohhh yea sick

[halcyon dove]

it also cant swim, which is funny as hell to me

cant wait to scare people as an anky popping up infront of them like a deino

[carmine rose]

I want anky to have a neck break move

[toxic mist]

Your photos are beautiful, but we can't see the flaws.

[lucid urchin]

He can't swim, but he doesn't care.

[lost musk]

theyre not mine tho

[plain thicket]

Well, I didn't state the rules, I just used the image because the Austrian model reminded me of it, but it could be from the movie.

[lost musk]

he sinks with style

[carmine rose]

like its the speed of a stego alt attack but if you hit their head they just die😁

[halcyon dove]

i doubt anky has a one shot move

[slate trellis]

this looks worse tbh

[lucid urchin]

I definitely will do more movie renders.

[plain thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/jurrasic-world-chris-pratt-velociraptors-raptors-good-gif-4921416

[toxic mist]

okok

[wheat moth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1075452213935226980/s0dbbrraqsq71.gif

[carmine rose]

2 shot maybe hopefully

[mystic ivy]

I wish the photos had protos

[halcyon dove]

but a skull fracture basically ends the fight since it halves your bite force so maybe?

[carmine rose]

I want it to feel like you really knocked them tf out or sum yk

[lost musk]

in the event that you do die, instead of a death screen, it should just be a flash into instant darkness

and then fades into the selection screen

much more impactful and would make you feel reaalllyy bad about your stupid decision

[carmine rose]

like with a full power tail to the face I mean

[halcyon dove]

it will, anky will likely hit very hard and fracture the hell out of stuff which it will pay for by being the slowest thing on the island besides sauropods lmao

[carmine rose]

lol yea still peak tho

[lost musk]

honestly i can see anky being slower than cama in a way

[carmine rose]

juvi anky should have a run like a stego lol

[lost musk]

or cama just being fast for a sauropod

[halcyon dove]

anky would be slower than a camara due to camaras stride being, well, a sauropod. but game balancing

[vapid pumice]

i hope anky has a really nice trot and a sprint that is barely faster than the trot

[lost musk]

anky would cripple a cama so easily

[carmine rose]

when you say really nice do you mean speed or animaton

[vapid pumice]

as an adult atleast

I think the little ones being relatively speedy for what they are could be cool

[halcyon dove]

speed submarine anky and a dream

[vapid pumice]

speed

something to help it traverse the map without it being an absolute slog fest like trike, without giving it a sprint that lets it somehow run things down

[carmine rose]

I dont mind if it was a slogfest tbh

[halcyon dove]

i dont think an anky would ever willingly get close to a camara if we're going irl lol. youd have to human cage match them or something

[slate trellis]

i hope people dont overplay cama

[carmine rose]

They will, and then they wont

[slate trellis]

i dont want murderteams of camaras running amok

[vapid pumice]

im going to love camara ht, personally. just playing baryonyx and picking off all the little juveniles i can find

[slate trellis]

ill be playing dibble

[lost musk]

yk what i think??

i think as a juvie up until subadult, trike should also go through multiple life stages like rex and be in a way where its like dibble, and can gallop pretty quickly with that leaner body shape before it starts bulking up into the square tank trike as an adult

at least it'd be fairer and not a walking happy meal for its entire life, why does rex get the cool life stages only

[halcyon dove]

oh no the camara megapack is running at me at 10 kmh whatever shall i do

[carmine rose]

spino

[vapid pumice]

spino is after camara so no dice unfortunately

[plain thicket]

Omniraptors being trained on the island.
hehe

[carmine rose]

whaaat I thought it was before

[halcyon dove]

spino is the last on the list we know of

[lost musk]

pretty good idea

[vapid pumice]

nope, spino is second to last on the current list (with para being after)

i thought

[slate trellis]

i mean they can just seal off an entire area

[halcyon dove]

you sure para is after? i thought spino was last

[crude girder]

Isnt spino the last one on the list

[vapid pumice]

i do not recall hold on lemme grab it

[carmine rose]

Someone showed me a dev quote of them saying spino will most definitely be the next apex added

[crude girder]

Spino is last and before it is para

[halcyon dove]

spino is currently the next apex being added, yeah

[crude girder]

Yeah spino is the next carnivore apex

[slate trellis]

do you have any paleologic data on that

[vapid pumice]

spino is last yah my bad

[plain thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/plague-doctor-gif-23267453

[lost musk]

i think 6-7 ton para would be a sweet spot, with the sorcerer yelling niche

i dont want it too big, i think it should still be able to flee from stuff and not just be a fat shant but small

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/idfk-gif-3761179052566277881

[halcyon dove]

i hope it can flashbang rex players lol

[carmine rose]

well they didnt say carnivore they just said apex so I assumed that it was gonna be spino then cama

[crude girder]

Spino before camara would be wild

[carmine rose]

5.8😁

[slate trellis]

undershotting para weight but magically adds 2 tons to alberta btw

[carmine rose]

Im saying if they want it to be fast that sounds like a good weight

[lost musk]

GUYS

would a troodon be able to survive an allo bite if it was geared with a full set of armor made out of eggshells and a jetpack full of helium with a thin titanium coating its entire body beneath the armor except its nose, mouth and eyes, and beneath that titanium coating it'd be a mythril coating as well as a chlorophyte coating beneath that too

[slate trellis]

Oh

[halcyon dove]

herbivores arent refered to as "apexes" due to its definition. in game terms we use apex because there isnt really a word for it. the closest would be a "keystone specie"

[carmine rose]

When did I add 2 T to Alberto idk why you said that

[slate trellis]

Nah 6ish is absolutely fine for speed, it'll just likely have inertia like the maia does

[lost musk]

1T alberto 😂

[carmine rose]

peak, Ill love Alberto no matter what size it is

[lost musk]

2kg

[carmine rose]

But if I recall the conversation right sky was saying allo is gonna be heavier than Alberto💀

[carmine rose]

peak

[plain thicket]

General question: do you think it would be a great idea to have a building inspired by this image?

[coarse nimbus]

essentially what the pit is, but on a larger scale

[slate trellis]

likely yeah

[lost musk]

7 tons
41kmh top speed but unagile bipedally like maia

flashbang sorcery scream that can make your ears bleed, and idk some disorienting effects

[coarse nimbus]

and in the ground

[carmine rose]

unlikely*

[slate trellis]

albertos just arent that big

[plain thicket]

in the game

[carmine rose]

Never said they were, but they were bigger than Allo on average

[lost musk]

i wouldnt mind having para be like, ironically weak against its own tier

like, itd just rather run from a pair of allos than fight it, and just make their life a living hell with one scream

[carmine rose]

youre in the small minority when you said Allo is most likely gonna be bigger than Alberto

[slate trellis]

nah give it a special ability and then make it outstat everything at tier

[lost musk]

fast, good stam, good survivability

but fighting your own size youre better off fleeing

[slate trellis]

we have a very large allo in game

[kindred panther]

imagine your screen suddenly starts sliding in repeated motion.

[slate trellis]

with prime it might be more contemporary but there's not gonna be more than a 200kg gap

[lost musk]

i wouldnt mind alberto being a bit oversized to like 5T so it stands out a bit more, rather than just looking like a juvie rex that stopped growing in its growth spurt

[carmine rose]

whats your point

[gilded badge]

I think my Galli is broken

[kindred panther]

alberto is like prime state of sub rex but better

[carmine rose]

^ fr

[slate trellis]

i think the data regarding alberto packs got thrashed but the devs could still lean towards it as a methodology

[lost musk]

allo has a 1T+ gap btw

[slate trellis]

what?

[lost musk]

i think your galli is broken

[lost musk]

2.8?T to 3.6 or so

its not a 1 ton gap but close enough

[coarse nimbus]

broken leg lol?

[kindred panther]

scooby doo ahh run

[slate trellis]

2.5 to 3.7

[carmine rose]

@slate trellis what do you think Alberto will be?

[gilded badge]

Broken Body lmao

[lost musk]

close enough, and way too much

[carmine rose]

its not 2.5

[slate trellis]

honestly probably dibble weight at adult / prime

[coarse nimbus]

haha broken galli is funny when it sprints

[carmine rose]

pretty sure 2.6 but i mean its all the same bs

[halcyon dove]

finally found it. i had to type foolproof not just fool. god im an idiot

[kindred panther]

alberto looks bigger than dibble for some reason in every concept and stuff.

[carmine rose]

thats heavier than Allo yk

[slate trellis]

like i said, 200kg gap

[halcyon dove]

impenetrable was the dude saying it, not dondi. membering hard sometimes

[kindred panther]

rex is the strongest

[slate trellis]

could you get this for me 🥺

[lost musk]

yeah like why cant anky just be the big "dont touch me" playable

the playable that just.. isnt meant to be killed

[slate trellis]

unless you mean ones i already saw

[kindred panther]

nothing should be unkillable.

[slate trellis]

make it killable but make it a genuinely fun dinosaur too

[halcyon dove]

based on what dondinator9000 said in that message, it will be killable, but it has a compliance hammer lol

[hoary sage]

dibble was tiny in every concept

it was 1.5t the first patch it was in in hordetesting

[slate trellis]

the dibble had a weightgain program

[lost musk]

why should everything revolve around pvp?

you can kill it, but youll be killed way before thats a possibility

its a boulder, a boulder with a hammer

[slate trellis]

spontaneous 2.4 tons added

[lost musk]

if someone wants to just be a boulder let them be a boulder

there'll always be the stupid obnoxious rexes that keep them entertained, anyway

[slate trellis]

wont rexes be able to kill them because of flip?

[lost musk]

maybe if you ambush it, i dont think rex should be flipping it any other way

[slate trellis]

make it so ankys cant flip back over

[halcyon dove]

i dont understand the obsession with flipping anky. if you allow anky to be flipped, its going to be one tapped. why would they add something that lets you one tap an anky? makes no sense.

[kindred panther]

ok, that doesn't change the fact nothing should be 'invincible"

[lost musk]

they already have pin lmao

[lost musk]

i mean, it can still be killed with enough rexes

[halcyon dove]

i still dont understand how something would flip an anky anyway. its too low to the ground, but such is life

[slate trellis]

how do you think they were hunted LMFAO

[wheat moth]

Ah, right. So it sounds like a case of: you can, but you probably shouldn't. It's going to be good!
I'm still holding out hope for the clawed playables being able to soft-counter an overly defensive anky by turning it over if it's big enough to do so.

[halcyon dove]

young, old, sick

[lost musk]

they werent

not the ones that werent already dying

[halcyon dove]

also, were there even any predators with anky that were anywhere near big enough to flip it?

[slate trellis]

yes some

it shared its environment with rex iirc

[halcyon dove]

alright, lets assume they make anky flippable . how do you balance this so anky doesnt instantly die?

keep in mind, anky cannot escape. itll be too slow. what does it do to survive this?

[crude girder]

Yeah

[kindred panther]

ankylosaurus is very rare to find compare to triceratops. like only a hand full were found.

[slate trellis]

long animation from things that can flip it that can allow a response attack

[halcyon dove]

so inorder to flip an anky youd need to play a long animation and hope the anky doesnt smack you during it?

[lost musk]

POAAA dummy you dont get it

its the T REX!!!!!!

you want the KING to lose a fight? 😂 😂

[slate trellis]

yep practically

[halcyon dove]

so, practically, when would something flip an anky if they will always be hit by it which stops the flip?

[rare tide]

Yo anyone know what "timebuildupdated" means?

[kindred panther]

ankylosaurus gets most of it's tail swing when it's legs are on the ground, so flipping it mid way would only let two of it's legs making contact to the ground.

[slate trellis]

baiting

[coarse nimbus]

steam thing

[past python]

I have a dumb question, but I was a prime carno
had 1 prime omni pounce me, and 1 adult

Was walking, no pin right, running, they were still latched

But then randomly it pinned my carno (97% stam)

Does it pin if you stand still? I have a video recording

[halcyon dove]

so you want anky to have an even longer recovery timer than the already long animation length?

[lost musk]

ok i baited the anky

now let me crouuuch down and go back in proximity to try and flip it as if it hasnt long recovered from its miss already

[rare tide]

give video

[past python]

okay I'll dm

[slate trellis]

finally somebody's getting it

[tulip glade]

hm

[slate trellis]

just gotta get the angle right infront of the inconspiciously charging hammershaping club

[kindred panther]

rex be dancing around trike, so wouldn't be surprised honestly.

[vapid pumice]

tis nothing, happened to alot of games

[lost musk]

honestly, the only way i'd ever see a rex flipping an anky

is if theres two, one baits the other, and another goes in with the heavy muzzle swing while the anky is no longer bracing mid-animation from the OTHER SIDE

[lost musk]

what no

[halcyon dove]

I cast lay down and wait lol

[slate trellis]

why do you want to turtle so bad lmfao

[halcyon dove]

because thats what makes anky cool? what? thats like asking "why do you want allo to deal bleed mainly" "why do you want to drown stuff mainly"

[kindred panther]

anky is shown to hunker down. so it may just have a leave me alone thing. (i would not be surprised if spino and rex could bypass this, which forces anky to use it's tail to defend)

[slate trellis]

my idea of anky is more the fact it will cripple anything it touches

[halcyon dove]

why cant it do both?

[kindred panther]

this is what the don refer as well.

[slate trellis]

thats how you make a thing insufferable

[halcyon dove]

dont attack the thing with a compliance hammer

[slate trellis]

why do you want to play a thing that genuinely doesnt get interacted with

[halcyon dove]

why do people play rex? nothing interacts with it

[slate trellis]

rex is fast enough to atleast catch some things

[halcyon dove]

thats rex interacting with others things forcibly.
not things interacting with rex

[kindred panther]

bruh, the amount of allos that would hang around a rex is A LOT

[slate trellis]

but its still game interaction

if ankylosaur is both unkillable, and the damage it deals absurd, why would you interact with it? it will not have the mobility it needs to force interaction

[halcyon dove]

and they all instantly die because rex can 180 in less than 0.25 seconds, allo doesnt have the agility to fight a rex

[slate trellis]

if a pachy was 7kmh i would never be close to one ever again

[kindred panther]

why even play it if nothing would want to do anything with you? you're just taking a slot in the server lol

[halcyon dove]

whyre you trying to use anky as a hunting tool? what?

anky goal isnt to force an interaction, its to survive that which wants to kill it

[slate trellis]

thats not my point, my point is why play it if you're actively not interacting with the game

[lost musk]

keep in mind there will always be the "REX IS KING" mindset to keep anky players entertained

[slate trellis]

this is very true but im ignoring it for the discussion

[lost musk]

what 😭

[halcyon dove]

alright, why play trike? it cant catch anything and will only be fought by rexes that outnumber it or nondrooling rexes who number it which instantly sends it to the respawn screen

[kindred panther]

trike just needs to be better.

[halcyon dove]

thats putting it mildly lol. cant wait for 2 ceras to not maul a prime trike to death

[slate trellis]

trike is bad right now

why play it is real bro nobody should be

[halcyon dove]

alright, if you take away ankys hunker down tool and it turns into "anky is bad right now" why play it?

[slate trellis]

you get to do stuff

[halcyon dove]

trike does as well, it gets to hide and eat 7 PZs to get 50% food

[kindred panther]

anky punish game is insane tho, atleast that's what the devs are showing.

[slate trellis]

so's trike

i avoid trike because if i trust it too much it stuns -> thrash and i implode

[kindred panther]

fracture.

sparring does not help trike, atleast anky doesn't have it.

anky will also get reduced damage nearly all over its body.

[halcyon dove]

youll give the dondinator9000 ideas, shhh

[slate trellis]

nothing to spar

[halcyon dove]

where there's a will, there's a way

[slate trellis]

damn my bad i understand

[kindred panther]

ahh yes, anky sparring with rex... what rex is just gonna hold onto ankys helmet of a head what?

[halcyon dove]

well, rex already holds onto trikes giant spear head of doom. why not hold onto an ankys tail?

[kindred panther]

if rex gets a hold of ankys tail, rex should start spinning in circles and yeet the anky into the sunset

[halcyon dove]

anky mortar emplacement in the isle before gta6?

[slate trellis]

rex could chuck anky likely

[slate trellis]

honestly id be more fine with hunkering if it werent an anky and more like an aletopelta

[bitter drum]

Okay. What the hell. I spent like a week trying to get a prime deino. This last one., spent a LOT of time in 3 migration zones, probably over a dozen PZ’s, perfect diet, never infertile, visited a sanctuary…….

And didn’t get Prime. What the actual eff. Is there an issue with MZ’s or something? I got every possible req except being hatched or raising a batch of eggs and didn’t get prime.

[mighty lake]

is that the adult or the elder

[nimble raven]

wait was there a patch yesterday what the

[rare tide]

No

[nimble raven]

interesting...

they're probably gearing up then, getting their ducks in a row

[wheat moth]

Look again.

[mighty lake]

thats why i asked cuz i looked at it and i cant tell

[wheat moth]

... The bottom left of the image tells you.

[mighty lake]

it looks real big like elder

[light cradle]

this is elder

[zinc abyss]

Perfect diet means perfect while over 100% growth rate, if that affects anything.

[mighty lake]

hmm interesting

it looks like its dead

[light cedar]

So it's the worst system in the galaxy because you have to walk around in places with no life on the map while you get bored thinking you're doing something relevant, only to get killed because some character is comically unbalanced.

If you need to force the player to achieve an objective against their will, you're not solving any problems, you're just making it clear that it exists 😭

This game barely has a "PvE" state, all you can do in terms of actions in the game are: walk, run, eat, and drink while grow safely.
Add to that the fact that you must live in isolation if you want a chance of reaching adulthood, but even when you are an adult, your safety is only guaranteed against tiny animals, because the larger ones can be in prime form and kill you with some kind of one-hit kill.

In my opinion, the Frail state should be deleted and replaced with "Standard Elder," which is just the standard character with standard stats but dies of old age, while Prime is something rare because there's nothing guaranteeing that a player will become Prime.
This way, the player doesn't need to go crazy playing purely thinking about becoming Prime.

And this would also help balance the game because honestly, all these different character states just create an imbalance.

I wonder if, when the devs decide to balance a new animal, they are considering the standard adult form or only the final stages, because before, all animals were just adults, and that made balancing easier.

[faint zealot]

anky 🥹

[manic fulcrum]

There would be life if herbivores actually had to rely on migration zones. Which case if you fix the issues with them, you should be able to reliably travel between them as a carnivore and hunt. Therefor if you are just doing it naturally then we fix the issue of “forcing the player”.

Also frankly the only primes that I feel are genuinely over powered are Rex, Maia, and debatably Carno’s. All due to how fast they are for their size. Prime Rex doesn’t need to run at 40km with murder sprint, prime Maia who is 5.4T doesn’t need to be running as fast as Carno, and Prime Carno is really overpowered due to the headbutt being busted if anything

All other primes are for the most part balanced imo

[light cedar]

AI herbivores are the solution, but they are complicated to create.
Fortunately, Dondi is on board with this idea because he wants to create a sustainable AI-powered system so that The Isle can have a life of its own.

And I don't believe in migrations, instead, parts of the map should have specific food sources that attract certain species.

Carnotaurus is a ant against anything that causes bleeding. I was once a Carno Prime and I attacked a young Allo, probably weighing 1,500 kg, and somehow it caused me to lose all my blood after I ran for 6 seconds.

Carno Prime is only a threat to tiny animals.

I'm surprised you didn't mention Cerato, which is an Indominus Rex that causes vomiting.

1.500 Kg adult and 2.100 Kg when Prime, fast bite and High charge damage (2-3x).

[vapid pumice]

its not even 2.1k, and it is like 36 kph lol

[light cedar]

What I mean is that the existence of the Elder system completely unbalances the game, because who is the player actually dealing with in their gameplay? Should we balance against elders, adults, or young animals?

One minute you're an apex hunter, the next you have a prime animal with quadrupled stats compared to yours, and you simply can't compete.
One minute you're hunting a young animal, the next you're dealing with a world destroyer.

[manic fulcrum]

Prime Cerato is only 1.8T, and is slower than Teno. It can’t really catch those guys. So your next best bet is stuff like fresh adult dibbles & Allos, which can put up a fair fight. While full adult dibble & Allo are too much for elder Cerato to deal with by itself

[light cedar]

Ah, they updated Cerato to something positive in my absence, thank God.
The last time I played it, it weighed 2.1 tons or smth.

[manic fulcrum]

Fair

[manic fulcrum]

Again the only animals that get quadrupled stats are Maia, Deino, Stego, Trike, Rex. Which all of those are fine where they are outside of Maia & Rex as I mentioned. Since for their size they are far too fast

[light cedar]

Cerato is definitely the devs' favorite dinosaur because there's no logic in making a strong animal even stronger, realizing the mistake, and then nerfing it...

It's like throwing oil on a fire and being surprised when it turns into a burst of flames.

[manic fulcrum]

Which I agree need nerfs

[regal notch]

brotcha berger

[light cedar]

Developers realizing that their IndominusRexvomiter.exe is causing exterminations to all life in a supposedly skill-based survival game:

[manic fulcrum]

Currently Carno is arguably scarier than Cerato

Since it can just CC you to death with lightning headbutts

And tbh I think Cerato is in a fine spot minus some minor nerfs it could use in specific areas. It’s slow enough where it can’t reliably chase everything and can evade the things it can’t bully

[meager mica]

Cant they just increase the CC and the problem is solved?

[manic fulcrum]

Increase it??????

[meager mica]

For the headbutt

[manic fulcrum]

You mean the cooldown

[meager mica]

Yes mb

[bitter drum]

I had over 200% growth rate at one point lol. No clue how I didn’t get prime. I smashed all the requirements and then some

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah, that’s all you need to do imo

[light cedar]

As I said, the Prime Elders should be rare, like a "mutant" within the species.

Making the stats of adult animals the default avoids headaches with balancing, and making the Op stats of Elder Primes justified given their rarity.

[manic fulcrum]

They aren’t intended to be rare. Merely to separate the players who engage with the game, and those who don’t. I agree it doesn’t entirely do this and needs work. But the elders still need to be fair. Which outside of a few outliers, they are

That’s the philosophy the devs want to follow

[light cedar]

First of all, why should this separation even exist in the first place?

You separate your players and force everyone to be competitive, anyone who doesn't follow the goal of becoming an elder prime will be punished like walking meat.

They are not surviving, they are competing for power.

[zinc abyss]

If you aren’t competing then there’s no way to be punished. You’re either casually playing to survive and thrive, or you’re playing with the intent that you want a specific result. You can’t have your cake and eat it too

[manic fulcrum]

Because in nature there are those who thrive and those who don’t. That’s something the devs want to emulate within the game by separating the players who engage with it and those who don’t.

It’s not supposed to be about being competitive. It’s intended to just encouraging the player to engage with the game and therefor other players more naturally. Instead of sitting with my friends at X location till the end of time

Which as I’ve stated multiple times, it does not entirely do and there need to be changes

[slate trellis]

cera feels like it can tank a shitload

i had like a 50% cera tank a dib stun + 3 thrashes and walk off

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf dibble isn’t exactly strong

It takes eons to kill an Allo

[mystic ivy]

Unless it's a pin

[slate trellis]

genuinely the other day i killed an allo in a stun and 2 thrashes

[manic fulcrum]

Were you prime

[mystic ivy]

What's allo's current weight rn? 2.4 tons?

[slate trellis]

first dib v the cera was 90 prime and second dib was 87 prime

[light cedar]

Did you simply decide to create pretty words for something that isn't working as described?
You know, PvE exists, if your game has a problem with predictable player behavior it's because there isn't much for players to do in your game and making them wander around randomly isn't going to solve that, there's no pve, only pvp, that's the consequence of Elder system, you didnt solve anything that already exists in the game

[slate trellis]

2.5 adult 3.65ish prime. it reads as 3.7 but is lower

[vapid pumice]

yay for rounding!

[manic fulcrum]

But I just said that it doesn’t emulate this. So no I didn’t describe words for how it works. I described words for how it Should work

[wintry thicket]

Well this is new XD

[crude girder]

Zombie rex!!!

[slate trellis]

also salty you taught me how to stun use dib stun properly and ive been putting in WORK with it

[manic fulcrum]

[wintry thicket]

I can eat it but it's dead? And breathing? 😭

[crude girder]

You will become infected aswell

[slate trellis]

i dont know maybe im fighting bad allos but ceras ironically feel worse to fight

[manic fulcrum]

But instead of just fixing the few issues with the system people seem to wanna just remove everything. The same thing with pins

[wintry thicket]

.....I don't like this anymore ToT

[slate trellis]

its a bug, just eat it

[wintry thicket]

I didn't trust it. It was looking at me funny.

[slate trellis]

eat the inconspicuous rex body, bud

[wintry thicket]

Totally inconspicuous

[slate trellis]

im telling you

[cedar forge]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-crying-downfall-sad-tears-praying-gif-7785197299162436598

Does it move??? If it does i'd be scared as hell

[rapid herald]

ig^

[slate trellis]

it should just breath as if it were idling

[cursive rampart]

MORE CC!!!!

[slate trellis]

get real 🥱

[cedar forge]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-vs-jose-ashita-no-joe-joe-yabuki-jose-mendoza-tomorrow's-joe-gif-4627345276761266879

[light cedar]

So, rework the elder system, remove the frail elders and replace them with standard adults, make Elder Primes rare chances to occur in the species, If you don't want to remove the frail elders, then make them the final life stage for all animals in the game before death from old age.

Create PvE elements that determine an animal's survival in the game without them being strange missions that don't align with survival.

https://klipy.com/gifs/transformers-2-ending-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen

[slate trellis]

who does bro think he is 😭

[oblique geyser]

[proud forge]

whats a server that isnt completely empty that i can play humans on?

[slate trellis]

why do you want to

[crude girder]

I would literally be fine with frail elders if they would have the same speed as normal adults

[proud forge]

scary

and i havent played them in a loonngg time

[crude girder]

I dont think any server has humans enabled

Unless theres a server out there that im unaware of

[proud forge]

):

[light cedar]

https://klipy.com/gifs/true-truth-nuke-1

[crude girder]

Just make frail elder speeds the same as adults…

[proud forge]

CMOOONNN IV BEEN LOOKING FOR WEEKS

[slate trellis]

i dont think the checklist is actually inherently pushing people into being unrealistic. it forces movement. prime elders = more experience living = bigger

[barren grove]

I found a zombie rex chat

[rapid herald]

😭

[vapid pumice]

iirc humans are causing server crashes right now so i dont think youll be finding any

[slate trellis]

this shouldve told you what you needed to know

[slate trellis]

What server?

[crude girder]

Is this on a official server

[barren grove]

Yeah. US 5

[crude girder]

Buh

[vapid pumice]

its just a body bug, the rex is dead and gone by now

[slate trellis]

im coming bud ill be RIGHT there

[barren grove]

Yeah. He was rotten

[crude girder]

[barren grove]

It's gonna get reset in the server reset

[tame kindle]

why are there glowing dinos now i havent played this game in a while

[slate trellis]

what server

[tame kindle]

zooming islander on unoffical

[slate trellis]

ive never heard of it sorry bro

[vapid pumice]

unofficial shenanigans, just something they have on that server

[tame kindle]

what is it though if you know

[rapid herald]

hot take deinosuchus should 2 shot any apex that's drinking water or swimming

[vapid pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-bait-mad-max-fury-road-gif-23673398

[oblique geyser]

thought that was over already

[slate trellis]

🥱

[cedar forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-ninja-stare-tyler-blevins-tyler-ninja-blevins-cringe-gif-16433056272855193593

[slate trellis]

no bait will ever be as lovingly crafted as austro is troo contemporary

[slate trellis]

why does bary look so fat

[regal notch]

fish is high in protein

and him gotta float

[halcyon dove]

bad news, bary sinks.

[regal notch]

can sink

[fossil fiber]

Which one will be added first Austro or Bary

[regal notch]

yes

[fossil fiber]

great answer

[slate trellis]

he looks like suchomimus

[regal notch]

he is, but cooler

[elfin jasper]

BARY

[slate trellis]

and smaller

[regal notch]

that's what makes him cooler

he's not compensating for anything

[fossil fiber]

Bary is the goat

[regal notch]

no it's a dinosaur

[elfin jasper]

remember how dorky legacy bary trot and run was LOL

[fossil fiber]

not in my eyes

[slate trellis]

It still is

[fossil fiber]

looks like a goat to me

[regal notch]

it might eat goat

[slate trellis]

Why even play bary it'll just be food for anything over 1300kg

[regal notch]

why play anything when it dies

[slate trellis]

I know that sounds like bait but I'm looking for genuine feedback

[regal notch]

it's too vague and baity to be a genuine question ngl

you could say that about anything that's a small or mid tier legit.

[slate trellis]

alright I guess I wasn't specific enough

What do you think bary will have that will make it a viable alternative to carno or Cera?

[regal notch]

semi-aquatic

[spring fern]

More food options semi aquatic so better map movement

It's competition for young deinos

[slate trellis]

I feel like it's not a very strong advantage

[regal notch]

it gets to pick its fights, it's not a corpse bullet like cera, and it's not going to be an acceleration based land runner like carno. I fully expect it to be a bleeder, a deino that doesn't rely on drowning but instead has the option to hightail it to water if needed and escape predators or put prey at a disadvantage

[fossil fiber]

cant wait to get jumpscared by a semi aquatic that can run fast and isnt a bird

atleast deinos cant run fast

[slate trellis]

whats with the bepi flak

[spring fern]

More like can't run 😭

[fossil fiber]

deinos would be terrifying if they didnt take 3 hours just to get to me

[spring fern]

Yeah

[slate trellis]

I don't see it being a bleeder but sure, I think this details it enough

[regal notch]

with claws being the focus I def do

[spring fern]

It's like beipi but bigger fr fr

[fossil fiber]

they should add another flyer already, im sick of ptera

[spring fern]

Quetz seems to be almost done

[regal notch]

I think it'll strike targets with high bleed and chase it on land and the risk reward comes into play on how far the bary is willing to abandon a water source

[fossil fiber]

hopefully

[slate trellis]

I thought bary didn't have the muscle attachment points to cater towards arms being useful? Or are devs going a different direction

[oblique geyser]

I imagine a scenario where someone is jumpscared by a Bary, and the Bary, being faster, simply overtakes that person because it's not hunting but rather fleeing from a Deino

[vagrant narwhal]

which playable has the worst stam right now? deino or ptera?

[fossil fiber]

beipi is just a little baby pengin that cant kill a thing

[spring fern]

Diff direction not every Dino is gonna be 100% accurate

[fossil fiber]

ptera

by a long shot

every time i play ptera i lose my stam then take 10 minutes trying to get it back

[vagrant narwhal]

but deino in water also feels pretty bad, specially when you need to keep track your prey on land while saving energy to be able to drag them into water

[fossil fiber]

yeah

[vagrant narwhal]

didn't play much rex but getting a kill seems ez

[regal notch]

I mean they did say they're giving it a defensive stance and the showcase we have of it is standing on its back legs. The devs said "it can deliver a slash your enemies won't soon forget" which to me reads as likely heavy bleed, a deterrent for engagements being prolonged

[fossil fiber]

hopefully quetz doesent lose stam fast

i personally love allo just cause its well balanced somewhat

[sick kraken]

its supposed to be really good at gliding, so it prob does lose it fast but can glide for a while after

[fossil fiber]

yeah

cant wait to be a t rex sized lizard in the sky

[vagrant narwhal]

I'm more interested in how they're going to design it, since this is a game where your HP is tied to your weight, and players aren't animals that can easily be bluffed just by size

and it will be a huge disadvantage if quetz hunts like a gaint killer griaffe on land

[fossil fiber]

i think it will just be a really good scavenger and have pretty good damage for raptors or small dinos

baby quetz will most likely be hunted ALOT by ptera

cause its just a slow easy meal that is almost as big as the ptera

[vapid pumice]

it depends on how long quetz stays under 80-100kg

cause after that, PT falls out of the air when attacking it

[vagrant narwhal]

In the newest Netflix series, a hadrosaur mom throws an Arambourgiania around like a squeaking dog toy

[fossil fiber]

yeah

[oblique geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855535605178171422/1479619393318162473/SPOILER_twitter-gif-2030032512613806435_69ab6079c4040.gif

[fossil fiber]

yeah quetz is not the heaviest

i'd say its about as heavy as maybe a small car or a bear

[wheat moth]

I'm betting that scene humbled the Prehistoric Planet fans that claim quetz wins a fight vs a rex.

[vagrant narwhal]

I imagine the fight will be pretty boring, just like right now's baby deino fight, 1 hit and its over

[fossil fiber]

quetz would get crushed in seconds

[wheat moth]

Yyyyup.

[oblique geyser]

how does one even think that

[fossil fiber]

i dont even know

[vagrant narwhal]

its just a meal for the rex, plus qutez can't eat that much so all it gonna do is wait for a while

[fossil fiber]

this bird that barely has any armor and is barely the size of the t rex can win in their eyes

[wheat moth]

They completely mis-interpret the scene of the rex not wanting to risk losing an eye and having way too much food the quetzs could never eat as "rex is scared of quetz".

[fossil fiber]

maybe just maybe if the quetz pecks an eye out the t rex might not want to fight it

[vagrant narwhal]

just like bear will give up when it sees a wolverine apporach the body, it can just come back later

[mint plank]

What to do if my dino dropped under mountain and i can't get out of the mountain?

[manic fulcrum]

The mighty Ground kit

[fossil fiber]

i guess so

[wheat moth]

The whole scenario was just not worth it. At worst, by the time the quetzals finish eating, something else might come along, but with the amount of food there was, the risk management was prudent.

[fossil fiber]

since the quetz looks bigger than the t rex it might get scared

[fossil fiber]

i agree even then its not worth it

[fossil fiber]

it would be less energy to keep scavenging

also has anyone seen the new quetz anims, they are weirdly faster than i thought

[oblique geyser]

i don't know if quetz will be hunting anything above omni

[fossil fiber]

yeah

[autumn current]

Austro perchance

[fossil fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-dinosaurs-dino-t-rex-que-gif-5262570504921929570

[oblique geyser]

i meant in weight

[vagrant narwhal]

I hope they don't make it be able to attack from mid air
maybe give it a preying stance on land to reduce some damage, allow it to peck its prey
cause adding weight to it feels weird

[autumn current]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-five-nights-at-freddy's-4-five-nights-at-freddy's-help-wanted-nightmare-bonnie-jumpscare-gif-4060190240311154184

[fossil fiber]

is austro gonna be able to beat omni?

[oblique geyser]

nah

[wheat moth]

Pretty much. Just let the birds eat their, what, 200kg of meat between them both off of this 30 ton animal I just found dead on the beach, and come back to it in about twenty minutes. No drama.

[oblique geyser]

i mean juvies for sure

[fossil fiber]

their to big to be able to dive and hit something without ALOT of effort

[autumn current]

Its concept art literally shows them fighting an adult 1 on 1 lol

[wheat moth]

It was a threat display, no?

[neon elk]

hi

[vagrant narwhal]

well this is a game your apex dies due to hunger within 1~1.5 hrs, who knows

[fossil fiber]

yeah

[wheat moth]

Good morrow, Isaac Although, it's the afternoon for you, right?

[vapid pumice]

NO!

[fossil fiber]

also it would be crazy to see and austro pack vs an omni one

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-good-morning-gandalf-morning-morning-gandalf-morn-gif-17912632

[vapid pumice]

i think im going to ban isaac! forever! till infinity!

[vagrant narwhal]

is austroraptor a pack animal?

[oblique geyser]

Dondi words- ''Austro is on the losing end of nearly any fight.'' ''He is fragile.''
don't put too much trust in the concept arts

[autumn current]

Let me threaten this thing that will apparently destroy me

[neon elk]

1000 lives.... per haps

[fossil fiber]

yes it is known to be in packs of 3, 2 or 4

[sick kraken]

ya he said beipis beating it lol

[fossil fiber]

not alot but they are quite big compared to omni

[vapid pumice]

infinity is alot more than 1000!

maybe. i havent actually counted infinity

[neon elk]

but what if i defined infinity to be such, or 1000 to be such?

[wheat moth]

Think about it this way: the concept art demonstrates more natural behaviour. Some may translate into the game, and others are more for flavour.
Austro is about the same height as an omni, but much skinnier, and omnis can pin their own weight, meaning austro would in fact get demolished if the omni landed a pounce.

[leaden cobalt]

Why ban isaac?

[fossil fiber]

i believe the austro will be stronger than an omni but not fit to fight it unless the player is skilled

[vapid pumice]

i guess it would be a definied infinity then

like how the amount of numbers between 0 - 1 is infinite, but still contained

[oblique geyser]

couldn't have explained it better myself

[wheat moth]

[cinder cave]

For the vine probably

[fossil fiber]

im just excited for a swimming omni

[vapid pumice]

Rumple, #1 Allo Hater

[oblique geyser]

austro will be a happy bird

[neon elk]

but to be infinite is to be impossible to comprehend, an impossiblity for reality
to be a like nothing, to be of no 'thing'. And yet, to be no thing is to define some thing
and so, we must have some sort of limitation. Some far yet comprehendible existing limit

[wheat moth]

I do hope it gets the foot dive it was using to fish with in the concept art. It might be a nice ambush tool.

[fossil fiber]

i just wanna chill killing my fish and enjoying my favorite dino of all time

[leaden cobalt]

Oh I hope I’m never banned

[neon elk]

tomorrow, maybe

[leaden cobalt]

[neon elk]

but what is tomorrow?

[vapid pumice]

about 13 minutes away i think

[oblique geyser]

dude

what if ht soon

[neon elk]

oh

[leaden cobalt]

OHH

[neon elk]

with the lack of update history
either they're gonna get the next bits into QA shortly again

or not any time soon

its just kinda in this bag of waiting for things to happen in the steamdb, if we want any sign of QA progress
and thus, closer progress into HT

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/no-steve-harvey-gif-11015118

[manic fulcrum]

Sadly

[neon elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1479430474840408177/20260210_220141.gif

[unkempt bolt]

I am gonna wake up Friday to see a notification in announcements. It is going to happen trust 🙏

[rare crane]

do pz and mz always spawn near you

[green mica]

does augmented tapetum work?

[signal laurel]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/17126570880262097696/17C0CC3EBE225656CDC49C7BC186C14EB9A472E5/ any one know what this sound is

[halcyon dove]

metal ambience that plays near human structure

[signal laurel]

ah okay I have some how never had this play before

[halcyon dove]

rex players are an enigma, how did this man make it to prime

[manic fulcrum]

I’m gonna say it, I enjoyed The Dinosaurs more than prehistoric planet

[coarse nimbus]

the dinosaurs was a fun documentary. personally I loved both

i heeeard that prehistoric planet was asking for approval for a jurassic arc possibly? i think that's what i was told lol

[indigo cave]

Absolute cinema

[manic fulcrum]

He didn’t. The Ai got him to prime

[coarse nimbus]

Oh lordy wow haha

[nimble raven]

they grow in solitude off ai OR they get people to carry them to adult

[indigo cave]

I'm sure some goofy goober will look and this, see that the rex won and see nothing wrong with how the rex played 😭

[vapid pumice]

i would say it but poa already knows what i would say

[coarse nimbus]

I know i’ve had some rough rex misses but it was mostly due to my ping difference that was baaad

[subtle sleet]

Rex is the easiest thing to grow, just time consuming.

[indigo cave]

Rex is the most boring thing to grow

[subtle sleet]

And time does not always mean difficult.

[subtle sleet]

That too, if you can withstand sitting in a bush most its life...Its just time consuming, boring, and once grown even more boring because most things are one shot.

[kindred panther]

don't play rex then, problem solve.

[subtle sleet]

Good idea, Bary will be much better.

[proud forge]

how to i force vomit as cerato?

[subtle sleet]

I think it was spam lmb?

[halcyon dove]

min sub, spam rmb

[nimble raven]

these bugs are seriously getting worse, its getting ridiculous lol

[subtle sleet]

Oh ya Rmb my bad.

[proud forge]

what if i am fresh spawn

[halcyon dove]

then you grow to sub

[subtle sleet]

Just eat some gastro rocks to help deplete hunger.

[halcyon dove]

theyre likely trying to get bile, not clear stomach space(which ceras manual vomit is horrible for)

[subtle sleet]

🙂‍↕️

[mellow flicker]

every AI on diet + slowest hunger drain in the game + slowest thirst drain in the game

:)

they truly are a true challenge of your skill as a player

[halcyon dove]

fresh spawn rex doesnt need to eat for ~1hr 45min. tehe

[mellow flicker]

ikr and they don't have to drink that whole time either

[halcyon dove]

2 hrs baby

[mellow flicker]

because that might put them in a position where an aquatic animal could potentially damage them

which, of course, shouldn't be happening to rex

[proud forge]

is bary going to be closer to the size of allo or cerato and carno?

[mellow flicker]

cera and carno more likely

[mellow flicker]

genuinely, if rex ever were to get a nerf, i genuinely would just want it to be prime speed, hunger and thirst times, that's it

i think it would absolutely not only make it more challenging to achieve adulthood/prime, but also made said prime not obscenely unfair

[indigo cave]

People were guessing 1.7-1.9 tons yesterday

[halcyon dove]

cough TURN SPEED cough

[stone tiger]

Paleo puts Bary from 1.2 tons all the way to 2 metric tons

[halcyon dove]

its not exactly amusing anymore watching a 2.5-12.3 ton rex 180 in less than 0.2 seconds

[mellow flicker]

honestly

i'm... not that pressed about its turnspeed, shockingly. i thought i would be more pressed about it

i'd make it turn worse in murdersprint but otherwise... eh

i DID however hear a really cool idea tho, which is that murdersprint, rather than having a set duration and just kinda... stops, it slowly decays in the extra speed until you're back to normal sprint speed

[indigo cave]

Rex should turn the slowest on the entire roster until spino comes around, even slower than camara. Those big beefy legs on such a long bipedal body does NOT equate right turning...

[mellow flicker]

i hard disagree, that'd be disgustingly absurd, there's no reason for a brawler-type animal to be turning that slow, and spino especially should not be turning the slowest

[halcyon dove]

its turnspeed causes anything that cant take a hit from it to never be able to fight it. it already has an alt from hell that sets up its crush, it doesnt need its turnspeed

its turnspeed also makes it dumpster trike lmao

[indigo cave]

Wdym spino should not be the slowest turner? It's got absolutely atrocious legs to body ratio and it's stupidly long, that body is not made for turning, like at all

[sharp crater]

can they add a 5 call just so they have an excuse to bring back the old rex roar lol 😭

i miss it so bad the new one is so boring

[mellow flicker]

spino will likely also be the slowest carnivore, so having it be the slowest turner, even slower than DEINO would be uh

gross and lame, especially if the animal is meant to be a brawler

[earnest sand]

Barry should do 1 Million damage to everything it encounters because its my favorite dinosaur and I said so

[mellow flicker]

spino would be worthless with a poor turn speed, it'd not have basically anything holding it together

[iron valley]

Has much changed on envrima? Haven't been on since they did an update to o
Ptera and the stam thing they changed that bothered a lot of ppl

[uncut mason]

Uh we have the elder system now, mutations, and Rex, allo, trike, dibble

[indigo cave]

I was not really including deino in the equation since that thing literally just goes on land as a baby.

Turning bad, especially on apexes should be way more common so that smaller creatures can play around it. There is no issue with rex, giga but especially spino turning like busses because all apexes already turn like busses

[earnest sand]

Would it be too much to ask for giganotasaurus to be in evrima?

[vapid pumice]

soon ™

[uncut mason]

We will be getting a few sauropods

[earnest sand]

I really think if we tank turning speeds for apexes, no one will play them?

[lost citrus]

Ptera flight is much more interesting now, but stamina regen is slow
Much of skill at ptera is knowing how to conserve stamina by latching onto trees (regens stamina when above 20% stamina) or using environmental stuff like updrafts over big rocks to lift you higher up

There's also this whole thing where you can sprint while flying and once you hit max speed it doesn't use up any stamina, but it doesn't always work idk. It's still really nice for covering distances

So like, you still gotta sit for a while if you blow through your whole stamina bar as a ptera, but if you know what you are doing it's not hard to move about

[uncut mason]

I knew this would get clipped

[mellow flicker]

you see, when people say "smaller creatures can play around it", i kinda see what they mean, but at the same time, it feels like some smaller creatures just want an easy shot for free and easy

rex turns moderately well all things considered. it's a good turn, for sure, but nothing compared to the real agile animals

i think overcommitting to making rex incredibly inagile just also makes it incredibly awful at self-defence

[indigo cave]

I also think all quadrupeds should turn like trike, or at least having the ability to do so

[mellow flicker]

spino, imho, should have the BEST turn of the apexes, not the worst

giga should have the worst turn, but be the best designed at actually sprinting at distance

[cinder cave]

It's high noon

[mellow flicker]

spino should also just have a godawful landspeed tho and basically be the game's worst hunter

[indigo cave]

I'm probably thinking too rationally about this but those stubby ass legs turning such a long body on the spot... That's two broken knees at least

[mellow flicker]

you're thinking about a real spino again

remember what we have

[vapid pumice]

the spinosaurus OC, bloodclaw

[indigo cave]

Still has a ludicrously long body to swing around, you have to generate and then stop all that angular momentum with just two legs

[earnest sand]

Also they kind of forgot that alt attacking is a thing. The attack that automatically turns and attacks where you’re looking, so as long as they’re staring you down, they will 100% hit you.

[mellow flicker]

yea but see also, from a gameplay perspective, spino is meant to be a brawler

if it cannot effectively turn to face its opponent, it has failed at the singular job of its niche

[indigo cave]

We humans turn really well because we are all vertical, if you extend your arms you can already notice that it's harder to stop the turn

Let alone a spino

[manic fulcrum]

No you will sit in the water, eat fish forever and you will LIKE IT

[indigo cave]

I honestly fear what the hell a brawler apex is supposed to look like... If rex is ambush wtf is brawl

[mellow flicker]

rex is ambush and brawl, it's both

giga is endurance and possibly ambush

rex is ambush and brawl

spino... MIGHT be endurance but is absolutely mainly brawl

[earnest sand]

What if it was like a heavy bleed? Think of it, big ol’ claws, one slash

[indigo cave]

Giga ambush... I hope not

If it's supposed to hunt the big boios it should at least have to earn the bleed

[mellow flicker]

given it likely will have one of the highest base-speeds of any of the apexes and also won't have a giant sail on its back, i can see it getting away with a good few ambushes

[indigo cave]

Out of being purely "sneaky" sure but it shouldn't have any mechanics to feed into it

[sick kraken]

how do you make an animal not ambush tho

ambush is just always better than not ambushing. u get a bite or two before the thing turns or runs

[mellow flicker]

depends what it gets

if it gets exceptionally heavy bleed, which i imagine it would, once it lands that initial bite on a smaller target, any attempts to flee would likely be met with a fast, bleeding death

[indigo cave]

Agreed

[sick kraken]

i really hope giga doesent just trot everything down

[mellow flicker]

god i hope not either lmao

trot giga does not need a return

[sick kraken]

would make it too good at killing things smaller than itself when it is also the best at killing larger things

[magic prism]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-king-acrocanthosaurus-transformation-gif-19843087

[lethal onyx]

It seems to be a popular balance for devs right now, trot meta, bigger rex will always have more Stam and speed

[magic prism]

the acrocanthosaurus will take what it desires

[sick kraken]

do we know how large of an animal red can fracture

[lethal onyx]

Deino too, bigger deinos are faster, even though they’re not trotting they Will catch smaller ones

[mellow flicker]

pretty sure there's no upper limit

[sick kraken]

nah tiny rexes can’t fracture trikes so there’s a limit somewhere

[lethal onyx]

I saw someone mention 1.56x multiplier once

[trail shard]

Acrocanthosaurus is superior

[mellow flicker]

well... not initially, but with enough attacks, they hypothetically can

[sick kraken]

i’m pretty sure it just can’t

[mellow flicker]

that's on crush, which is a different situation

[sick kraken]

interesting, hopefully it cent fracture shant but with that number it seems very possible

[mellow flicker]

no, it def can, since all its attacks deal fracture damage, it'd be like chipping away at a redwood tree with a metal spork, but like, you'd still be getting somewhere

the only thing is, crush does the most fracture damage, and crush DOES have an upper limit

[nimble raven]

rough marking of where I went through in this herreras life, obviously first mutation was 25% decreased hunger drain cuz it would be impossible without it, if I dont get prime rn, ima lose it

im genuinely gonna lose it, I did everything right man

[nimble raven]

I dont even know if I wanna entomb, genuinely frail herrera is so boring and slow

[cinder cave]

As apposed to normal herrera, which is known for it's speed and agility

[nimble raven]

bruhh rumple dont be like thattt, you know exactly how much worse frail herrera is over prime lmao

I got prime last time with the exact same route, what is wrong man

[cinder cave]

I haven't played herrera since the elder system dropped

I play dryo like, 80% of the time as of recent, unless my buddy wants to play something else with me

[nimble raven]

nicee, well not all dinosaurs are made equal sadly, some are god awful to play frail on lmfao

[shrewd meteor]

The missing of deltas migration could have been the reason
West rail and delta are like ways active and im 90% certain mgz has to be active to count towards prime

[nimble raven]

well it doesnt unless they changed it hm

[atomic quartz]

Guys as a omni, what's my best against a juvi red same size as me? Run? 😭

[atomic quartz]

I swear I get prime without that
Only 2-3 mz and 4+ pz lol

[regal notch]

why not just group?

[atomic quartz]

Bc I'm in a lonely server. I'm Just farming

[shrewd meteor]

Well in my own experience ive lost past primes when I havnt visited both and gotten current ones when I did so our theories are randomized

[regal notch]

I don't understand

[atomic quartz]

I've got prime only doing:

• 3 mz (idk if they're 2 or 3)
• 4+ pz
• Perfect diet
• no infertile
• no spams
• sanct
  Lol

[atomic quartz]

Imma run NSNSK
I usually farm in lonely servers with some dinos when I'm getting used to them

[shrewd meteor]

This goes above the requirements I specified idk what to do with this info

[regal notch]

"farm"? what do you get?

[vagrant narwhal]

aura

[atomic quartz]

Sorry 🥲 I just said what worked with me
I tried a lot of things that ppl comented here too

[shrewd meteor]

Aura farming 🚜

[regal notch]

for killing the same species? that's negative aura 💀

[atomic quartz]

Farm ai to grow my dino. I prefer to do that on servers with less than 40 ppl on it to get used to the dino before pvp

[vagrant narwhal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/534477131808374795/808071633771823114/7212718xYH8GA6W.gif

[shrewd meteor]

Mmmmm moths

[regal notch]

why not group with others of your species to farm together?

omni's a pack hunter afterall

[vagrant narwhal]

I enjoy growing a omni alone too, and try to find some pack later

the IQ of Omniraptor players usually drops exponentially as their numbers increase, i made dumb decisions when im in a pack

[shrewd meteor]

The pack paradox is real

[vagrant narwhal]

"look i can jump over a maia and attack mid air.....acck"

[atomic quartz]

bro, again: I farm ai in lonely servers so I can get used to the dino before pvp. So I can practice and get used to the dino BY MYSELF

Every time I go with a pack they pvp (as they have) and I just rather get used to by myself first. It's just a preference 😛

I have omnis in anothers servers too to pvp and do that but rn it's not the case xD

Like idk, how it works how it looks
Experiment

[stone tiger]

Wat

[atomic quartz]

Yeh that too.
It doesn't matter what especies I am

For me the best omni pack is always 3 max

[regal notch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ you do you then I guess, I wouldn't attack your own species regardless

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/SnickersUK-protein-snickers-proteinbar-4EHsAtAPcV41vx2B5s

[vagrant narwhal]

sometimes other players just seem way too bloodthirsty and tend to ruin the fun, like camping bodies for no reason

[atomic quartz]

And to grow a Rex out of ai I'd also do it in lonely servers too snsks
So when I conect when more ppl are in, I'm already big enough to hunt

[stone tiger]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401480390528729091/1135161442849521744/IMG_6730.gif

[regal notch]

Bary when he finds a beipi

[uneven finch]

How long does it take for your dino to disappear if you get disconnected?

[regal notch]

5 minutes iirc

[uneven finch]

Okay thanks

My internet decided to commit unalive so I hope i'm not just standing in an obvious spot lol

[regal notch]

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[atomic quartz]

Yeh that too. Most of times I join any pack I die because of that. I like pvo but not the bloodthristy one

[nimble raven]

I just want the HT for the bug fixes and balance changes, idec about the playables at this point

[atomic quartz]

Just saw a lovely cousin (allo)
Tbh my biggest omni trick is just me laying in high rocks. Not for the adult rex players but the juvis or allos

[vital onyx]

huh

[atomic quartz]

In my defence..they can't reach me, and had worked for me so far so..😭😅

[stone tiger]

Omni's cousin are the Troodons

[stone tiger]

Yeah Quetz would make you fear those places.
Not necessarily because it would snatch a full grown Omni away.
But it would peck you to death

[nimble raven]

the days of climbing mountains with herrera without fear will be gone...beware...the flying giraffe

[atomic quartz]

Well yeah but considering allos can pin too xD

[regal notch]

don't pretend they exist anywhere besides the sanctuaries

[atomic quartz]

You mean the big ptera?
Fr

[atomic quartz]

I main herra, I exist outside sancts bc I'm normal

[regal notch]

more like abnormal

[atomic quartz]

If I see another herra player doing that I unalive it

Sorry bro but do better
Don't harass the babys :'U

[regal notch]

you have a thing for killing your own species lmao

[atomic quartz]

What? No
I usually never do that unless...revenge xD

[regal notch]

[atomic quartz]

Me being the omni against a juvi Rex the same size as me
I meant Rexz that's not the same especies 😭

[regal notch]

welp that explains my confusion LOL

[atomic quartz]

It's ok xD

[dense swan]

was pretty obvious

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-ok-okay-okaay-L3X9GvVhP1nY23Ah6u

[cedar mauve]

so rex is omni's big papa

[stable heath]

is trex out yet?

[crude girder]

Been out since christmas

[stable heath]

oh fire time to update

[unkempt flame]

For 6 months? ( I quess horde test was then idk cant remember)

[crude girder]

I think like 7

[runic raft]

how are we this morning

[astral folio]

is that a mutant bird

[slate trellis]

Why do stegos need so much water

[grand ingot]

Here is a question: Why are herbies so desperate for fights?

[slate trellis]

because people are oriented on pvp being the most interesting part of the game, and that opinion is relatively common

[runic raft]

they know only 2 possible dinosaurs stand a chance xD

no one fully grows a tri thinking "bro ima eat so many trees peacefully"

[slate trellis]

yeah people do

i like being a little police and protecting innocent little creatures from evil ones

[cinder cave]

Woodpeckers just do that

[astral folio]

thought of it like it was a bird that eats bugs from trees

[cinder cave]

It does, it has a long spear tipped tongue to get into the tree

[regal notch]

alternatively, it's a worm with a fake bird pretend body protrusion

[runic raft]

i like doing that but as a fully prime carino that can eat anything causing a ruckus

[cinder cave]

This theory isn't supported by science

||Send in the special forces, he knows too much||

[vital onyx]

theres actually a reason behind it

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/funimation-glasses-25RLdGV4YlQ69BalEN

[vital onyx]

see, carnivores currently live in a self-sustaining circle of carnivore eat carnivore eat carnivore due to the way diets and organs work

why bother going out of your way to hunt that maia when theres other, weaker carnivores to eat (including your own species because cannibalism sucks) or when you can engage in pvp deathmatch kill fight kill fight fight kill die gameplay

[wide dock]

Fr

[vital onyx]

as a result, herbivores go ignored, and as a result of being ignored, they lack social interaction ingame

this results in them being desperate for any action, any interaction, anything

thus why stegos (for example) immediately B line anything that enters their line of sight to try and kill it

the stego player eventually dies because 40 million rexes, allos, trikes, and other animals converge on its location to mix/megapack and kill

[regal notch]

obligatory @past dune summoning

[vital onyx]

mandatory diet system tagging

[regal notch]

amendment: Migration Zones

but this is always something I wondered how the Isle would balance in the long run... (ya know, if it ever thinks about balancing it), because really, herbivores don't engage with the ecosystem in any real way the same way carnivores do

[vital onyx]

the best way that i can think of is to butcher carnivore diets and AI