isle-discussion

[feral shadow]

NO mid tiers, it has 3 apexes, and a small tier

[west plover]

but notice how it doesn't show the king

[void marlin]

Rex is so mid

[lost musk]

nope this is acro, thats obviously a giga unless you admit theres strange things up in your noggin

[proper onyx]

I WILL NOT CALL ACRO A APEX UNTIL I SEENIT THAT MANS STEGO FOR CARNIS

[manic fulcrum]

Two distinct things

[feral shadow]

someones mad

[west plover]

hmm I see

[proper onyx]

No I just wanna troll on acro cuz I don’t think it’ll be all that big gives stego but carni vibes

[feral shadow]

do yall think we could ever see brachi concept art

[void marlin]

Huh

[lost musk]

rex's jaw would go bye bye just as easily

[west plover]

stego is apex tho

[void marlin]

It's because Rex is so mid that the artists hate to draw him

[dense kestrel]

here come the rex glazers

[feral shadow]

7-8 ton acro please

[proper onyx]

Large with apex power

[void marlin]

Wasn't it like 4-6 tons irl?

[proper onyx]

Legit stego vibes large with apex power

[lost musk]

he's already here bro wym

[proper onyx]

Dibble was 1 ton irl we semi realism here

[feral shadow]

have you seen how fat it is in game

[dense kestrel]

idk bro i just got here

[proper onyx]

Speaking of dibble anyone else feel like dibble feels clunky after Rex update?

[feral shadow]

no

[wheat hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/vb-gif-25663467

[lost musk]

it got a speed and agility nerf for NO reason

[west plover]

anky potato breaks on trex jawline

[west plover]

we making things up now
small tier mid tier apex
no large

[void marlin]

Yeah good point, but I would like it to be a smaller apex, not being like Rex/Trike/Giga. Something between 5-7 tons and 10 tons at prime Elder.

An "small" and "easy" predator

[somber urchin]

tiers

[dense kestrel]

this is agreeable rem rem

[proper onyx]

Ya it just feels clunky like been getting shredded by cera/ shredding as cera so easily now

[feral shadow]

fair fair

[void marlin]

Anky potato breaks rex jawline*

[proper onyx]

Don’t make me pull you using tiers before becoming a mod I’ll do it

[void marlin]

Pigeon

[lost musk]

allo gotta go too but dibble also sucks

[proper onyx]

We all can agree tiers are useful for baseline expectations of comparisons

[west plover]

https://tenor.com/view/metroman-megamind-metro-man-gif-4270232700510617971

[somber urchin]

[somber urchin]

rex could never

[void marlin]

This is literally Rex trying to hurt a Anky fr

[sick kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/rise-and-shine-meisho-doto-tm-opera-o-tm-opera-cro-tm-opera-crow-gif-7275827755202654036

[west plover]

strongest ankylosaurus powerswing with sprint boost

[lost musk]

good representation of anky tanking rex attacks

[feral shadow]

yes

[leaden cobalt]

I am Xenon

[void marlin]

Hi Xenon, I'm Allosaurus fragillis

[proper onyx]

Not allos grapple hitbox being unironically so big you can pounce past people face and get a mount

[sick kraken]

sigh… any trike experts. i want to inquire about options during spar and what to do when

[dense kestrel]

i dont care that itll be 15kmh anky IS PEAK

[somber urchin]

might have. dunno to be honest. i'm not super knowledgeable, i just like dinosaurs

[leaden cobalt]

Where is Maverick

[void marlin]

Idk ask @misty pivot

[lost musk]

idk how these made it past QA let alone HT

[chilly burrow]

In a place

[leaden cobalt]

Is it a good place

[proper onyx]

It’s a common discussion mainly used to compare what is expected to face what head to head

[somber urchin]

fair enough

[void marlin]

Guys, ping me once Rex is a good playable

[feral shadow]

me too...

[dense kestrel]

give me 4 years then

[proper onyx]

Your asking me bro did you see Rex start of HT? QA be slacking off ngl that was awful

[void marlin]

More like 40 million

[feral shadow]

ew

[void marlin]

Pelican

[sick kraken]

stupidmimus

[lost musk]

i dont think its their fault, i think they dont get to properly balance test to begin with, just bugs

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-orange-cat-orange-cats-cat-weird-gif-17010424884748616697

[void marlin]

Why Suchomimus hate?

[feral shadow]

i cant believe there was a time we were supposed to get sucho before bary

[chilly burrow]

you ew

[crude girder]

Sucho>>>> bary

[proper onyx]

Fair enough

[void marlin]

Sucho 🤝 Bary

[dense kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-mind-relatable-connection-funny-meme-gif-5907854347893100775

[craggy ridge]

Can't tell if chat is being cringe or not

[lost musk]

when you slow it down you really get to see how bs the pounce is

[cedar mauve]

and turn slower while sprinting

[proper onyx]

I feel like community feedback for Rex and allo been kinda ignored unless it’s something clearly insanely op ie allo starting bleed

[dense kestrel]

allo is just bs

[lost musk]

one of the most anticipated roster additions btw

[proper onyx]

I got a good one

[dense kestrel]

one of the most disappointing playables btw (imo)

[manic fulcrum]

That in general for Rex yeah

[static nacelle]

Will the servers increase size when humans come? like will humans be easier to render than a omni raptor

[dense kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-rem-gif-22506393

[lost musk]

wtf 😭

and the ballerina turn is so bs

[void marlin]

I love Allo, but I hate the fact that he's just a bigger Omni
-# And I love Omni

[proper onyx]

Tell me about it

[dense kestrel]

hes just boring and ununique

[cedar mauve]

fih = great

[lost musk]

bigger, buggier, and more bs roster invalidating fodderizer 3000 omni

[dense kestrel]

dilo needs some love

[manic fulcrum]

It needs an entire rework

[cedar mauve]

it needs it's clones

[dense kestrel]

yup some deserved love

[lost citrus]

it needs a fancy suit and tie

[void marlin]

Yeah, he's very buggy. But his bleed is awesome

[cedar mauve]

spectacular

[halcyon dove]

i dont think so, i usually run away from every fight i can lol, but i practice on free admin servers for when i cant run

[void marlin]

No, I need a fancy suit and a tie

[manic fulcrum]

The issue with dilo is it’s a one sided animal. It’s clones work? It kills most things with ease, its clones don’t work? It dies

[proper onyx]

Not bros animation literally being from the front of me

[cedar mauve]

i have a suit and multiple ties, jokes on you

[dense kestrel]

hence the dire need for a rework

[feral shadow]

i need a fancy dress

[manic fulcrum]

would you like to hear my ideas

[lost citrus]

same

[sick kraken]

i am just curious when trikes in a spar. what are the options and what beats what option

[cedar mauve]

i need a nice top hat

[dense kestrel]

yes pls 🙏 (i saw mettas ideas thought they were very good)

[manic fulcrum]

Ok imma just copy & paste my wall from last time

[void marlin]

Make Dilo not have loud footsteps, it's dumb

[cedar mauve]

no, cool

[manic fulcrum]

How I would Rework Dilo
1: Hallucinations only activate during nighttime (starting at dusk), but can prolong till day if target is already envenomated

2: Hallucination regen timer up to 45 seconds

3: Biting envenomated target regens one hallucination

4: When you laugh, you spawn the hallucination where you are (You can see the hallucination with a faint white outline)

5: If the opponent runs to a hallucination before its called, you can destroy it

6: When the Dilo 3 calls, the hallucination goes in to attack

7: Hallucinations copy your calls

8: Fog now causes Dilo footsteps to play randomly

9: Increase Dilo crouch, walk & drag speeds.

[proper onyx]

It was meant for when it’s venom was super strong and the roaster was a lot smaller as a whole

[cedar mauve]

makes me feel cool

remember dilo is 700 kg which is like the size of a tiny car

[void marlin]

Make Cera 800kg

[dense kestrel]

thats yummy i like the being ablle to 3 call to send them in so it requires slightly more skill

[feral shadow]

quetz

[void marlin]

querz

[proper onyx]

If this plus a massive change to mobility id agree but otherwise i like the damage

[manic fulcrum]

Yes. More leeway for where you place them and use as bait to get good angles to attack are the idea

[cinder cave]

wiwiwi

[cedar mauve]

buff cera to 18 kg

[void marlin]

Wiwiw

[dense kestrel]

AND dilo needs better agility than carno

[manic fulcrum]

I mean the damage for hallucinations wouldn’t change

[void marlin]

Add Cera and Rumple to Allo's diet

[proper onyx]

OOOO than big yes

[chilly burrow]

Rumple?

[void marlin]

Rumple-Fake-Owl

[cedar mauve]

add mcdonalds to my diet

[lost musk]

reject dilo, return to troodon

[cedar mauve]

to make it healthy

[halcyon dove]

trike 1v1 is a staring contest, the one who swings first loses becauase the trike that initiates the spar has to wait to do an action afterwards while the other doesnt, so you just get tossed to the side or stunned

murder sparring your goal is to flip the other guy then thrash his side.
2 ways to do this hold lmb and sprint lmb.
both put you into a state of pushing. pressing lmb after a bit while youre pushing someone will flip them, after you flip them run to their side and thrash them. doing this once almost guarantees you the fight

Resist getting flipped
when someone pushes you pressing lmb will stop it and deal no dmg to them and play a lil shrug animation. costs 1 bar
holding lmb will play an attack animation, do dmg, and costs 2 bars
holding rmb before they attempt a sprint lmb will stun you but you will not go into the push phase(used to do this, bugged?)
holding rmb before they attempt a hold lmb will ignore the hold lmb entirely and let you get around to their sides or go for your own hold lmb(used to do this, bugged?)

If you run out of bars below your stamina, resists and flips will start to cosume your stamina bar, run out of stamina and you cannot resist being flipped you are dead as hell. you can still flip people though but can only start the push phase through hold lmb as you cant sprint

there is ways to ignore all of this and instantly stun someone. if you encounter this type of player and are not confident in your size difference, run. if you cant run make peace with your god that you dont know how to abuse bugs that people call "tech"

[chilly burrow]

Oh- I am big stupid. Massive stupid, some might even say

[chilly burrow]

holy wall

[void marlin]

You're a genius

[halcyon dove]

i believe in your ability to read, or your ability to choose not to

[void marlin]

Wanna see the great wall of nothing?

[proper onyx]

Or ignore all of this and run circles around the trike because it’s impossible for trike to keep pace with Rex running tight circle around you

[chilly burrow]

I just thought it was funny how it appeard out of nowhere.

[sick kraken]

what about vs rex? \

[halcyon dove]

its for trike v trike

[proper onyx]

Oh…. Ya that makes sense honestly

[proper onyx]

Find a wall plant your but firmly into it never let him at your side

[manic fulcrum]

I’ll be real here. If it’s daytime, just don’t be seen by a Carno. You are a nocturnal predator and so the daylight is just not your friend. Stick to the Forrest’s & dense areas. Carno isn’t as good in jungles

Your increased NV should allow you to evade most carnos before they find you. If you get ambushed just use the Forrest’s to lose it

I think people forget how fast dilo is, it has the mobility to make distance from a Carno given it sees it coming

[sick kraken]

and can i counter someone thats resisting the flip? wouldent you simply never be flipped bceause they can always resist

[halcyon dove]

95% of rex players suck at the game, theyll run straight at you and die. however, trike has a 1x stun threshold on sprint lmb, so if youre 1kg less than the rex kiss your trike goodbye

[proper onyx]

Burns stamina

[tawdry haven]

devs why ptera stam regen is so low?

[dense kestrel]

but dilos agility rn makes it really hard to effectively hunt something

[proper onyx]

Don’t want UAVs

[manic fulcrum]

That’s intended. It’s not supposed to be an agile animal. Because it’s lanky. It hits and runs

[halcyon dove]

burns stam and spar bars. but youll die before theyre out of stam. the one who starts the spar push always will lose the fight cus of being able to toss them to the sides while being spar pushed

[void marlin]

I don't think

[tawdry haven]

dumb solution

[proper onyx]

What agility

[dense kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/raúl-esparza-see-what-you-did-there-yeah-right-gif-24340790

[proper onyx]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[manic fulcrum]

Dilo can use its superior NV and the jungle to evade carnos trying to chase it. It can make the distance too due to its high mobility

[sick kraken]

so if me and a rex are locked whats the deal? do i right click to block and wait for him to do something or should i turn him or do the strafe disengage

[proper onyx]

Bro carno out turns dilo I dunno if I can get any worse than that

[manic fulcrum]

If you want to make dilo more agile, you’d have to trade some of its speed considering its larger than Omni & far stronger in terms of raw dps

[proper onyx]

“high mobility” AHAHAHAHAHA nice one

[proper onyx]

It doesn’t need a lot honestly it just needs a good drift

[manic fulcrum]

It’s 47km. That’s pretty fast

[proper onyx]

It’s fast not mobile there is a difference

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah I’d rather give it a drift

[manic fulcrum]

Fair point. But anyways, you can use your speed to make distance from Carno unlike most animals

[proper onyx]

A good drift and functional clones that don’t get trapped on every twig

[halcyon dove]

you can hold rmb and wait for the rex to do something, or you can press spacebar to smack the res in the side with a normal lmb. either works

[proper onyx]

Kinda kinda not

[manic fulcrum]

Depends if you can see it coming

[sick kraken]

i just dont get, why dont both players do the spacebar a/d strafe thing? is there a counter to it or guaranteed big hit

[proper onyx]

Generally hold RMB until he does something he gonna try and flip you side ways or dodge to the side

[halcyon dove]

well, imagine youre a rex. you just unlocked from spar with a trike and jumped. the trike is now running at you and hitting you in the face with a sprint lmb which stuns you. not exactly ideal.

the jump is there to try and bait someones hold lmb

[proper onyx]

Wrong server for pair gang

[feral shadow]

boo

[sick kraken]

what is jumping? pressing space?

[plucky sigil]

rainbow

[halcyon dove]

if you jump and they do the hold lmb, theyll be stuck in place and youll get free hits for a bit. as a trike you instantly die cus leg break, as a rex youll live

[proper onyx]

Yes

[halcyon dove]

a/d + space

[proper onyx]

Fracture damage op remove fracture from Rex only pachy, pachy rhino and anky should get fracture!

[sick kraken]

how does the trike run at you if you jumped? it cant turn that fast

[halcyon dove]

i just think rex shouldnt be bone breaking stuff in its weight class, but thats just me lol

[proper onyx]

If it doesn’t attack it can start turning while your still mid animation

[dense kestrel]

GIVE ME AUSTRO

[halcyon dove]

the jump is incredibly slow compared to rex's normal mobility. so it can

[proper onyx]

Agreed

[manic fulcrum]

Praying for an update tonight

[sick kraken]

so just blocking with right click seems like the safest option right?

[somber urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/summoning-gif-16806659066271167689

[halcyon dove]

yes, in a 1v1 holding rmb as a trike is your safest option

[sick kraken]

so what do i do if the opponent is simply right clicking

[proper onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-wait-patiently-oh-i-will-wait-oh-yes-i-will-man-pulling-out-camp-chair-to-wait-gif-18210748690125729645

[halcyon dove]

as a rex?

[sick kraken]

as either. can rex not right click?

[somber urchin]

[halcyon dove]

rex can, yes. if you mean as a trike, then jump to exit spar and smack them

[proper onyx]

HOW CAN YOU USE OTHER SERVER EMOJIS

[halcyon dove]

rex, weirdly enough, actually gets a 50% dr when its holding rmb. i have 0 clue why

[somber urchin]

nitro. (server boost)

[proper onyx]

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-you-what-what-did-you-do-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-19389913

[sick kraken]

ok i see. so mobility counters the blocking, and doing nothing counters the mobility? and blocking counters the shove/turn thing

[proper onyx]

Problem solved

[halcyon dove]

the problem comes when its not a stupid rex and they abuse their turn radius/speed to run circles around you. you basically just die

[solar kestrel]

i feel like i'm being gaslit -- f2 replays used to allow you to see health and stam percentages, correct? do they not do that any longer?

[halcyon dove]

i dont think they ever did

[sick kraken]

so should i really just sit there and not press anything if i think theyll jump?

[halcyon dove]

as a trike? if you want the SAFEST option. hold rmb and wait. rex players ADHD will cause them to try and do something and then you take advantage of that opening

[sick kraken]

if i do that then they can jump tho right

[halcyon dove]

if rex jumps, sprint lmb its face, if it trys to toss, toss it afterwards

[solar kestrel]

can rexes do the same side toss thing to trikes they can do to other rexes? (a/d and direction throw)

[halcyon dove]

if it jumps sprint lmb it, the jump isnt fast and is reactable

[sick kraken]

oh i thought if u block and they jump then you cant act for a bit

[halcyon dove]

yes, rex can look left/right and hold lmb to toss trike. rex actually toss's trike further than trike toss's rex.... for whatever reason

[halcyon dove]

negative, you can act as soon as they jump

[sick kraken]

wait so why would they ever jump. sorry im kinda dumb lol

[somber urchin]

... no. they don't.

[solar kestrel]

is there any counter play to that?

[halcyon dove]

they would jump because theyre forced to. if youre holding rmb they cant do anything in a 1v1 besides jump

[halcyon dove]

hold rmb to resist the toss

[sick kraken]

is just biting bad? when should one simply left click or hold left click

[halcyon dove]

never left click as a trike, it leaves you open for multiple seconds and they can toss you without you being able to do anything about it

[solar kestrel]

thanks poa. appreciate it 🙂

[halcyon dove]

you either hold rmb, or do one of the hold lmbs or space. spar tap lmb is for cosmetic sparring

[halcyon dove]

go get em tiger

[sick kraken]

whats the hold lmb do again? when should i do that crazy move

[halcyon dove]

hold lmb when looking left/right will toss the rex in that direction. hold lmb while looking forward will stun the rex. do it after youve blocked the rex's toss

[solar kestrel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kpop-demon-hunters-k-pop-demon-hunters-45

[sick kraken]

ah gotcha, thx does the same go for if rex left clicks? just bad?

[halcyon dove]

if youre not in the weight range to be able to toss the rex/stun it in spar, pick a god and start praying

[spring fern]

troodon on top

[halcyon dove]

trike has an insane DR on its head, dont bite the trikes head lol

[sick kraken]

does it leave the rex open to being turned tho? whats the downside?

[halcyon dove]

im not sure, ive never had a rex just... bite my head in spar. id imagine if it does it leaves it open to being tossed since it cant block while its biting

[sick kraken]

ok cool tysm. also curious, when i fight stegos and they get their tail to me, i just block. like 6 powerswings i block while slowly mvoing away. is that good or should i just run. i figure theyre just wasting their stam

and if they have the tail up whats to stop my from sprint LMB them anyway

[halcyon dove]

depends on your weight and their weight. if a stego wants your blood you cant run from it and you will have to fight it. if the stegos stupid itll swing into your rmb and deal 0 dmg and 0 bleed. if its smart itll try to run around you. if youre 1kg less than the stego, again, make peace with your god or hope theyre an idiot

generally, hold rmb, block a swing, sprint lmb, thrash, stego dead

[sick kraken]

is it not easy to keep ur head towards the stego

[sick kraken]

oh theres a gap where they cant get another swing off and u can knock em over?

[halcyon dove]

trikes turn radius is horrendous, a stego can get behind you while youre holding rmb

[halcyon dove]

yes, unless theyre abusing a "tech" (bug) to swing 2x faster

[sick kraken]

i mean yea but just only hold it if theyre gonna swing right

[neon scaffold]

This is so stupid, trike should have a way better turn rate. Thats like. Its entire thing. "Keep target in front of face"

[sick kraken]

meh, use a tree or something

[neon scaffold]

If a fat ass herbivore can out maneuver trike then its not agile enough

[halcyon dove]

yes, holding rmb increases your stability(resistance to getting stunned) so just hold rmb and you have a 87.5% DR to anything that hits your head and it wont deal bleed

[sick kraken]

i feel like ive sprint/hold lmb them and they didnt get knocked down, did i just underestimate their size or do i need to sprint for a certain amount of time ton knockdown

[halcyon dove]

if youre small, hope the stego is an idiot and wastes all its stam swinging then run. if the stego gets really close to you it can hit past your head though. or itll just go around you

[spring fern]

https://tenor.com/view/spinosaurus-jurassic-world-rebirth-jurassic-park-jurassic-world-spino-gif-568317402432181042

[sick kraken]

also trike defensive stance lmb (not spar, just the lmb when u can move omnidirectional) is that any good

[halcyon dove]

trike sprint lmb only flips ~73-74% of its weight. so a 0.73x, it stuns only 1x. hold lmb stuns 0.73x, it flips like... 0.5x or something

[halcyon dove]

i have no idea what attack youre talking about

[sick kraken]

u press control and then hit lmb

[halcyon dove]

thats spar engage, it sucks. never use it.

[sick kraken]

like just lmb in spar stance, but not while sparring an animal

[sick kraken]

whats it even do? against animals that cant spar

[mental nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-maybe-today-gif-10280981816589226009

[halcyon dove]

it engages a spar, or used while sparring lets you push the other person if they were blocking. its for cosmetic sparring

push as in move them backwards, not spar pushing to knock them down

[sick kraken]

so just always sprint then lmb, ok. the sprint lmb works in spar stance tho right? dont need to swap to normal

[halcyon dove]

90% sure it also just.. doesnt cause bleed as well lol

[trim swallow]

update for what lol

[halcyon dove]

sprint lmb works whenever, its like thrash

[sick kraken]

so if im using the omni movement, i should always press control to get out before i attack? if im doing normal attacks

[halcyon dove]

you WILL always have a wall next to you and you WILL like it until they decide to go inside your model and swing through your head lol

[halcyon dove]

yes, always do ctrl lmb ctrl

[spring fern]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-hello-monster-monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-gif-1477428599339858067

[halcyon dove]

also never use trees/gates/etc against a rex. rex crush can go through walls

[jade flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/spinofaarus-friday-waddle-hehehehe-gif-2271446187422481637

[sick kraken]

man trike sounds so tragic i hope they fix that guy

[long pebble]

best april fools update would be making it so that the tails went around in circles as you walk :) would be hillarious on stuff like galli

[sick kraken]

now atleast i can hopefully beat the button masher rexes

[halcyon dove]

and thats just the combat, i cannot express to you how harsh just existing as a trike is

[tawdry ermine]

who wins:
troodon
vs
godzilla

[spring fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1083128688209563689/1254695365987405834/image0.gif

[long pebble]

maybe unpopular opinion i HATE button mashing games (example of super smash bros or wii tenis)

[halcyon dove]

trike cant run from any fight, no matter its size. you HAVE to fight anything that wants you.

ignoring that, just simply getting FOOD as a trike is... painful

[sick kraken]

smash is a button masher game if u suck

[tawdry ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-deal-seal-the-deal-gif-2446360363984910947

[peak vigil]

But you don’t mash buttons on wii tennis…

[jade flicker]

Aquatic Mammal

[long pebble]

idk what game it is but its a tenis game for like the wii or the switch, and either way if theres a big level of button mashing on the low levels i pretty much dont like it

[halcyon dove]

i went onto an admin server and ate the entire PZ at riverdelta bridge leading to sanc, it took 8minutes with me using way more stam than i would on survival and it only gave me ~22% food. id have to eat 6 PZS at riverdelta, the place with the highest amount of the biggest food source (which gives ~3-4% food) and it would take almost an hour to get full food

i desperately hope they do something about the herb food situation, its ridiculous.

[coarse nimbus]

ooh that's bad

i supposed it incentivizes migration but that's rough

[sick kraken]

with cama will come some big big food in the trees hopefully only apex can knock down, or in camas case, reach. i am hoping for this not stating as fact

or any arboreal herbis can get ofc

[halcyon dove]

it incentivizes people to ignore their diet completely when reaching 75% so the smaller of their group can get barely any diet. it feels awful

[lost musk]

can confirm growing trike is miserable

[halcyon dove]

god forbid you want to nest as a trike, good luck lol

[halcyon dove]

stego is miserable as well. hell even maia and dibble

[sick kraken]

maia is quite fun

[halcyon dove]

im honestly thankful teno only gets 200kg from prime so it doesnt have to eat entire PZs lol

[sick kraken]

prob cuz teno rework maybe soon, and itll just keep the prime size and adult goes down

[halcyon dove]

having 5-6 tenos will still easily clear out multiple pzs though. its a bit silly

[coarse nimbus]

no i def agree, i feel like food values for the bigger herbies need to change and or have more plants that would be significantly more filling like larger players corpses are for carnivores

[lost musk]

i think herbivores should be able to eat the nromal plant asset bushes, like even the map decor

[long pebble]

NEW BUSH UNLOCKED RGB BUSH

[sick kraken]

anyone wanna grow a trike on mettas hehe

[halcyon dove]

hell, now that you say it i really wonder, just how much value does the biggest plant in the game give?

its ~4% per forestbush/tree, and trike has 120min of food. that means each bush gives 4.8 minutes of playtime, half of which is spent actually getting to the bushes, so 2.4minutes per forest bush lol

[neon scaffold]

Ah yes trike, the BULLDOZER with ZERO stopping power because they can just hit you anyways

[halcyon dove]

hopefully trikes sprint lmb/hold lmb get some threshold changes. only stunning 1x on sprint lmb is a little silly

[coarse nimbus]

biggest plant currently is the jackfruit tree i believe

[halcyon dove]

gives the same amount as a forest bush

[neon scaffold]

Diablo gets to stun frail stego still btw

[coarse nimbus]

rough. that's really rough

[halcyon dove]

good ole dibble, still funny watching dibbles hit a stego they dont realize is prime and instantly die

prime dibble stunning 7.8 tons is funny tho, you can prob bully a really bad rex player to death

[flint prism]

Why is there flying fish ??

[feral shadow]

why not

[neon scaffold]

Cant wait for shant to come out and literally just kill trike for fun since there isnt anything trike can do

[halcyon dove]

government agents spying on us

[flint prism]

lol

[halcyon dove]

id imagine shant will be slower, cus thats how its always been balanced lol

[feral shadow]

trike horns actually counter shant stomp/j

shant be like "owie my foot"

[neon scaffold]

Thats how it should be, unironically, but alas, trike horns are more like toothpicks

[halcyon dove]

same thing that happened to stego with trikes will happen to trikes with camara/shant

[crude girder]

They have been flying since update 3

[neon scaffold]

Will it? Its a hadrosaur theyre pretty quick for their size. Shant gimmick is that it cant sprint would be so funny

[plucky sigil]

we ALL love trike and rex combat

[lost musk]

trike would realistically demolish shant but trike in this game is a walking happy meal

[halcyon dove]

hard as hell to say, i want to say shant will be a runner early in its life, then slow way down. but maia doesnt even break 40kmh till 60% growth lol

[neon scaffold]

Tbf shant probably passes maia weight at 20%

[halcyon dove]

itd still be a hatchling then though, unless you mean like 35-45%

[plucky sigil]

ngl, there is no point in thrashing as a trike when fighting rex, it doesn't even stun the rex, the rex will just run behind you and bite you

[neon scaffold]

Exaggerating for comedic effect but yeah, very early on if other herbivore growth curves are anything to go off

[halcyon dove]

trikes 3.5 tons at 50%, so i can see shant passing 5.4 at 40-45%

[halcyon dove]

big ole walking hamburgers for bigger carnivores

if no ones playing herb, simply make the few herb players worth more meat early on. im being farmed by the devs and injected with pure starch. pain.

[flint crest]

@limpid vaporare u on eu 2

[limpid vapor]

for rex?

[flint crest]

u playing rex?

[limpid vapor]

nnor right now

[lost musk]

trike should 1 shot rex with bleed

if this was a real life situation

now boy oh boy i recall kissen saying that they wanted everything to be just as strong and threatening as their real life counterpart would be, which was their excuse for pin being as strong and uncounterable as it is.

so why isnt that the case with trike? where one good stab to the neck would bleed out a rex in seconds?

[limpid vapor]

i can though

[plucky sigil]

all they gotta do is make trikes bipedal mode better, a rex should not be able to run around that

[halcyon dove]

game balance, probably. "realistically" rex would never go for a same size healthy trike, but that wouldnt stop players

[hidden loom]

spino in evrima when chat?

[manic fulcrum]

I feel like it should be the case of “we want things to be as strong as their irl counterparts within reason”

[halcyon dove]

let alone, what sane rex would actively try to spar a trike lol? a SINGLE inch off and suddenly the rex has a horn going through its mouth and out its brain case

[lost musk]

exactly, trike is just ridiculously represented in the game for what it truly is

[neon scaffold]

Maybe im in the minority here but i significantly prefer fights that are over quickly with a couple quick blows than long drawn out fights where both parties are hitting each other over and over and over. Makes things more tense and it also might make you reconsider picking a fight in the first place. It also makes each dino feel just as threatening as they should be. Its why i dont mind pins because you should have been more careful

Stego swing to the skull? Dead. trike stabs you in the heart? Dead. rex crushed your neck? Dead. simple as that

Maybe not quite that extreme for gameplay purposes but you get the idea

[lyric hollow]

@lost musk Except everything we know from paleontology, fossils and research tells us that t rex regularly fought, hunted and triumphed against triceratops
You are massively underestimating the durability and strength of a t rex jaw if you think that's how easily a trike horn can just stab and kill a rex

Sure, it was often the other way around as well, but you guys are clearly speaking from a biased standpoint rn

[halcyon dove]

isnt all that from already dead stuff? and then is it possible to tell if the trike was old/young/sick?

regardless, a rex isnt clamping onto a trike face its just a gameplay thing thats cool

[manic fulcrum]

I’d prefer if apexs don’t just one shot each other

[halcyon dove]

i remember looking a while back to see the fossils anyway, there wasnt any evidence besides a baby rex/trike

ah yeah, this
"There is also evidence for an aggressive interaction between a Triceratops and a Tyrannosaurus in the form of partially healed tyrannosaur tooth marks on a Triceratops brow horn and squamosal (a bone of the neck frill); the bitten horn is also broken, with new bone growth after the break. It is not known what the exact nature of the interaction was, though: either animal could have been the aggressor.[47] Since the Triceratops wounds healed, it is most likely that the Triceratops survived the encounter and managed to overcome the Tyrannosaurus. Paleontologist Peter Dodson estimated that in a battle against a bull Triceratops, the Triceratops had the upper hand and would successfully defend itself by inflicting fatal wounds to the Tyrannosaurus using its sharp horns.[48]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeding_behaviour_of_Tyrannosaurus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dueling_Dinosaurs

"A specimen housed at the Virginia Museum of Natural History showed tooth marks on the Triceratops frill that displayed signs of healing, confirming a live encounter rather than post-mortem scavenging"
https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/fossilproject/blog/featured-fossil-triceratops-vs-tyrannosaurus/

[manic fulcrum]

Wall

[halcyon dove]

not wall, embeds.

[limpid sleet]

yea im gonna take a break i just cant

[lost musk]

rex wouldve most likely preferred to tackle older, sickly, weakened or younger individuals, but a tank like that rex would almost never take on if it was fully grown and healthy. just ONE slip up or the rex and it is dying whether it wins the fight or not, especially since youd need to risk your life greatly by getting around the set of sharp horns using your very vulnerable head and neck. A healthy trike could take a few blows if its careful (unless it got ambushed and its neck crushed) but a rex can only take one before its fate is most likely sealed

[halcyon dove]

unless 2 paragraphs is a wall in here lol

[lyric hollow]

Yes, fossil study is exactly how you estimate age and size of a specimen.
I'm not talking about the way sparring is presented in the isle. This is a game with balance for combat reasons and for fun.
But despite that, the concept is still grounded to reality. A rex fighting and killing a trike is not absurd or silly, its real and it happened

[limpid sleet]

i just lost my 45% rex to a carno

[slim swan]

My dream is for this system to be implemented.

[runic rampart]

Hey so I am open to ideas as to why this issue is occurring occasionally, would love to hear from others. As a Troodon, I and a few others on separate days were nested in different sanctuaries. We had perfect diet from our parents. We did NOT get prime. Nested in, perfect diet, sanctuary, never infertile, never spasms as a Troodon. NO prime. Why?

[halcyon dove]

it is real, and it did happen, but im assuming a rex would not fight a same sized trike that wasnt sick unless it was out of pure desperation i suppose

[neon scaffold]

You will keep the trillion cuts across your entire body from hunger and you will like it

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh this is less a trike specific issue but ceratopsians could use some buffs. Both dibble and trike suffer from similar issues

At least with Rex , I’d like to see the elder speed be less than the adult. Bit insane how it can be 12T and run as fast as it can. Fractures also need a revisit imo. They shouldn’t be win conditions. Or at least what we have rn shouldn’t be obtainable unless the prey is effectively almost dead anyways

Give me fracture severities

[slim swan]

lol

[halcyon dove]

dibble/trikes kits were made for a world without carnivores their size, rex/allo has really shown just how bad it is lol

[manic fulcrum]

Yeah….

[lost musk]

this is where it just gets confusing, pin is fine despite it being completely one sided, unfair and completely un-counterable unless you back away (which isnt always viable) but then matchups like rex and trike need to be fair so that its fun and balanced

make up your minds

[halcyon dove]

pin is getting alot of changes soon though

[neon scaffold]

Why is their dmg so comically bad its so upsetting

[lost musk]

it better

[verbal grotto]

(It cant catch a sub adult easily)

[manic fulcrum]

Allo for the most part is in an ok spot imo, maybe a few tweaks needed. Rex does seem a bit overtuned

[sick kraken]

poa can u inform me on rex right click

[lyric hollow]

I think minds are very much made up and there is nothing confusing.
The pin thresholds right now are the best and most fair that can possibly be.

[verbal grotto]

i dont like being a skinny rex and being outran by this fat lunk of absolute muscle

[halcyon dove]

trikes main dmg is its thrash, dibbles, for some reason, is it spamming hold lmb over and over lol.

almost had an allo facetank me as i was backing up and spamming ctrl lmb ctrl. was wild

[halcyon dove]

wym? during spar or out of spar?

[lost musk]

allo is NOT in an ok spot

nerf the bleed, nerf its turn in place radius, nerf the bite speed

a buff to its running turning wouldnt hurt, but definitely nerf the turn in place

[manic fulcrum]

PINSLOP PINSLOP CANCEL THIS USER 🫵

jk

[leaden cobalt]

Come on devs

[verbal grotto]

(Actual latch mechanic instead of omni 2.0)

[lyric hollow]

Ya'll have forgotten when 2 omnis could pin a cera or carno?

Let's not pretend that pinslop complaints are something new. There's been an anti pin cult in the discord since years

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh I don’t mind the bleed being high. It’s a bleeder. I’d rather just see buffs to stuff like wallowing/making it more accessible

Though the turn in place/bite speed nerfs I can agree with

[halcyon dove]

theyve already acknowledged a lot of the dinos should be able to fight back or something. id imagine pinning something you shouldnt have will have dire consequences soontm

[feral shadow]

i love having a good bleeder

[lost musk]

im fine with grapple, im talking about solo pin is what frustrates me

[neon scaffold]

Trike cant flip rex right?

[lost musk]

i agree but that claw swipe is a little too much-

[lyric hollow]

Agree, allo is fine. Maybe a minor bite speed nerf but that's it.
All rex needs is fracture dmg reduction

[halcyon dove]

a prime allo and a 25% allo being able to grapple 14.8 tons will never not be funny to me

[halcyon dove]

same size? it cannot. it can barely stun a same size rex. trikes flip threshold on its sprint lmb is 0.74x

[manic fulcrum]

Tbf the attack can be a bit clunky to hit. You turn yourself into your opponent

[proper onyx]

Rex and allo need speed nerfs but allo can only get one when Rex gets one

[lyric hollow]

Allos and rexes solo pin thresholds are both pretty generous for the prey, you gotta be much bigger

[manic fulcrum]

Also missing a claw swipe is a decent stamina cost wasted

[neon scaffold]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZHhwN3lwd3J3aTE1Y2dmOWNpd3RmMzBmcWY5YXZlZDc3aTRlaXZvbSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/NFoqn0qgDnLkx8GbnX/giphy.gif

[manic fulcrum]

The stamina used for pinning though for some reason isn’t very high at all

[feral shadow]

creepypasta

[lost musk]

allo sure, but its pounce just needs an entire rework to not work like omni because its arguably the worst performing mechanic visually

[manic fulcrum]

I imagine if you are holding something to the ground you should use more stamina

[halcyon dove]

you WILL die to 2 bad rexes and you WILL like it. there's also a ...hopefully bug at the moment where rex can stun WAY past its intended range. a 25% rex "staggers" a 12.5ton trike lol

[neon scaffold]

Dont you just love it how rex "pins" its prey by sliding 10 meters past it and biting air

[manic fulcrum]

Just change the grapple math from 101% to 50% like it’s pin is

[neon scaffold]

Someone suggested rex pin should drag the prey with it as it slides to fix it visually

[lost musk]

there just needs to be more thresholds, more conditions, more what ifs, more stuff like that

pinning should take many more things into mind other than just weight

who has more stamina, whod be able to keep up better during the pin, who has more health, how much stamina and how much health, stuff like that

solo pin im talkin abt

[manic fulcrum]

Ye, I agree.

[halcyon dove]

prime allo + 25% allo only grappling 7.4 tons instead of 14.8 would be nice. too bad its still uh... alot of tons

[iron osprey]

i thought they said in the update log that they did that already

[halcyon dove]

cant wait for camara on admin servers so i can screen shot 2 allos grappling it lol

[halcyon dove]

it was applied to omni/allo. rex didnt get it yet

[neon scaffold]

Oh at least its on their radar

[iron osprey]

oh ok. does it look good for them now then? i havent seen it yet

[halcyon dove]

from the clips ive seen, yes. it looks much better than pinning something 4 football fields away

[neon scaffold]

Omni pin threshold should change to 50% to be consistent with everthing else

[manic fulcrum]

You’d imagine the prey should have to be way less health than you to pin them

Elder Allo is only what? Like 3.6T? 2 allos should have to lower something’s weight to 3.6T of health to pin them. Not just slightly less than both of them

[halcyon dove]

its also kinda a buff to omni/allo since it teleports w/e you pinned right under you, so if youre at 1% stam you can pin then run out and bite it to death

[halcyon dove]

theyre 3.7, your version would make it even worse, as youre giving allo a 1x grapple threshold(which is what it already is im an idiot)

[neon scaffold]

Wouldnt that be 50% because its 2 allos?

[halcyon dove]

i read it wrong, reading comprehension moment

[neon scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/garn47-car-cat-silly-bouncing-gif-583089640702904922

[manic fulcrum]

Hold on my math ain’t mathing

[halcyon dove]

i read the "two" as a "one", dont ask me how

[manic fulcrum]

Oh I see

Yeah, anyways. 2 allos should have to bring you down to bare minimum the amount of health one Allo would have

Even then…..Dibble dies

[halcyon dove]

dibble would essentially get grappled instantly anyway

[manic fulcrum]

I love allos weight doing everything for it

[halcyon dove]

idk, even then allo instantly grappling 3.7 tons if it got you that low would play a 2 hour long cutscene that youre forced to watch

[neon scaffold]

Tbf, thats just how this game has always been. 2 carnos kill a teno, 2 omnis kill a pachy etc

What is prime dibble weight?

[manic fulcrum]

I had an idea where quadrupedal animals would have stability modifiers. Or in the case of something like Maia who stance swaps, stability modifiers when in quad mode

[halcyon dove]

3.9

[neon scaffold]

That doesnt get insta pinned by 2 prime allos under the new proposed math then

[halcyon dove]

itd be better to have a universal thing, as grappling would still feel really bad for anything not on 4 legs

[manic fulcrum]

Since they are more built to the ground or something idk

[neon scaffold]

It does after 2 bites but whos counting

[halcyon dove]

one bite, or a couple seconds of a pounce and it would

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh a universal stability modifier buff wouldn’t be terrible.

Some CC things would likely have to be changed slightly. Such as carnos charge. So it can casually still knock stuff like dilo

[sick kraken]

ok i killed 2 rex before my trike died on a pvp server i think i am ready to grow one

[halcyon dove]

stability is stun res in their terms, not grapple/pin resistence. idk what they called it for gali, but i know it has a negative modifier on that

[manic fulcrum]

Ahhhhhh I see

[neon scaffold]

exhausted prime deino pinned by 2 allos is so funny because like, what are they pinning? Its already on the floor

[halcyon dove]

go get em tiger

[manic fulcrum]

So does stability not affect grapple?

[sick kraken]

u were right i just hold right click and they always try and turn me. we just get in staring contests tho what do i do then

[halcyon dove]

1 prime allo/troodon and a dream lol

[halcyon dove]

wait, or press space and smack them. or just.. stare at them.

[sick kraken]

if i press space and smack em dont they get to just hit me

[halcyon dove]

shouldnt, every time ive seen them mention stability it was in reference to being stunned

[sick kraken]

jump is reactable ahh

[halcyon dove]

if you let them behind you, yeah. you can sprint lmb them after the jump or ctrl lmb ctrl them

[manic fulcrum]

I see. A simple change could just be making stability affect grapple

[halcyon dove]

sprint lmb only works if youre their weight or higher though. youre kinda screwed otherwise

[sick kraken]

mettas den triceratops time

[halcyon dove]

someone play the 500 cera buffs meme

[manic fulcrum]

And then some sort of universal stability buff. Be that everything or for quadrupeds

[sick kraken]

what do they do if i just jump every time... now im proper confused

[halcyon dove]

they abuse their turn radius, run away, or eat dirt and go respawn screen

[neon scaffold]

Why universal stability buff when you could just... decrease all pin thresholds

[manic fulcrum]

Cerato is such an enigma

[halcyon dove]

hold rmb, become more resistent to pins, win. cera simple, cera eternal.

[sick kraken]

ah so if theyre good i shouldent jump unless terrain allows me to get around their turn radius

[carmine swallow]

are there any helpful settings for croc control? i find it quit difficult to control. for example to hover close under water

[halcyon dove]

if theyre good theyll never go into spar with you in the first place

[sick kraken]

ah rough

[halcyon dove]

hold alt, it maintains your current height in the water while moving

[manic fulcrum]

Because most pin thresholds are already low enough. Like you COULD lower them. I’m not saying that’s not an alternative. But like Allo by itself can only pin stuff like Carno at most off the rip, so anything less and it can’t

I’d rather just give it to quadrupeds specifically

Since generally speaking, they are slower than the bipedal animals in similar size ranges

Also all grapplers are bipedal

[halcyon dove]

yep, its why trike is so boned if you cant stun the rex. you cant start spar cus if you do youll get tossed as you have hellish input delay, so you have to stun them with sprint lmb or hope theyre stuipid enough to start the spar for you. if theyre not then theyll just run behind you and kill you

[carmine swallow]

so the free look?

[misty pivot]

just you wait till carch gets a grapple

[manic fulcrum]

What carch

[sick kraken]

what do u do if u stun them? thrashing just gets u killed right

[halcyon dove]

yes, if you hold it while moving you wont gain or lose height in the water

[neon scaffold]

Oh i thought universal meant for everything not just quadrupeds

[halcyon dove]

you spam ctrl lmb ctrl and get behind them. after youve fought for a bit and get a stun off go for a thrash to finish them.

rex sometimes ignores stuns/flips due a bug, so dont get baited by that

[neon scaffold]

Because a stability buff to everything and a pin threshold nerf are functionally identical

[halcyon dove]

except for the fact that dibble/trike which rely heavily on stuns getting a major nerf

[carmine swallow]

is it also possible to toggle sprint in water? like on land

[manic fulcrum]

Nah I mentioned just for quadrupedal animals/when in a quad stance

Poa mentioned making its universal buff so bipedal aren’t left in the dust. Though I mentioned how most bipedal animals are generally faster than the quadrupeds

[halcyon dove]

no idea, ive never tried

[neon scaffold]

Yeah but in terms of nerfing just pins i mean. Stability buff would have other side effects yeah

[mystic ivy]

Nah you have to hold sprint in water

[carmine swallow]

ok

[manic fulcrum]

Tbh…we could just give stability modifiers to ceratopsians

I can’t wait for Anky to get insta pinned by 2 allos

[halcyon dove]

damn i just thought about playing the isle for the first time in a long time then remembered how boring/tiresome it is to feed a stego/trike.

god i hope that gets fixed soon :/ or kentro.

[halcyon dove]

0 chance anky is that light. anky likely wont be stunnable as well since you cant stun a deino

[neon scaffold]

Theyll never do it but grapple and pins should do locational damage. Pin anky sure but you cant do any damage to it lol

[manic fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-adam-warlock-dont-be-rash-will-poulter-marvel-gif-7269497775167346680

[neon scaffold]

Also an omni/allo on stegos back should do less than one on its side

[manic fulcrum]

The only reason I’m imagining Anky might be Slightly lighter is since it will already have armor

Will it be? Idk

[true solar]

When you one bite an agave plant

[manic fulcrum]

Go get your diet

[halcyon dove]

making something light cus it has armor doesnt really make sense, the armor is what makes it heavy

[neon scaffold]

"Immune to stuns"

[manic fulcrum]

Nah I more so meant in base health. Since armor should be a seperate healthpool imo

[halcyon dove]

jarvis, play the dibblesquisher9000 that was in the concept

[dreamy whale]

what are some good muts for tyrannosaurus rex ?

[manic fulcrum]

So like until the armor is broken, your only do like 1/3 of your damage to the Anky

[neon scaffold]

Reniculate kidneys

[halcyon dove]

make anky extremely weak to weight based pins/grabs. which... every dino that would be a threat to anky has. seems like a good way to make no one play it

[manic fulcrum]

I think this is just rooting out the issue with pins in general

[neon scaffold]

Counterpoint, rex cannot crush with a head fracture (i have no idea if this is how it is but it should be)

[manic fulcrum]

Is that weight plays too much of a factor that you don’t have to weaken stuff if you weight a decent amount

[halcyon dove]

leg breaks is what disables moves, head break cuts biteforce by 50%

[mystic ivy]

Which I still hope gets reworked

[sullen gust]

hey guys what should I go for my second mutation as a rex?

[halcyon dove]

traum or hyper

[neon scaffold]

Maybe it shouldnt be that way

[manic fulcrum]

Reinforced tendons

[sullen gust]

what’s the full name to those?

[halcyon dove]

theyre at the bottom, youll see em

[sullen gust]

and what’s the use of them?

[neon scaffold]

Traumatic thrombosis and hypermetabolic inanition

[halcyon dove]

sit prevents bleed out, less food = more dmg

id recommend traum, considering youll likely fight a stego and omnis/allos

[neon scaffold]

Id go traumatic thrombosis, rexes biggest threat is bleeding out to stego rn

[misty pivot]

do not take traumatic thrombosis

[sullen gust]

what about epidermal or osteo?

[neon scaffold]

Ur right, take reniculate kidneys

[misty pivot]

PRECISELY

[halcyon dove]

pick one to go 3rd, then get gastro/hyper/the other one 4th

[neon scaffold]

Never as a second mut

[sullen gust]

oh fr? why not

[neon scaffold]

There are mutations that you can only take in your second/fourth mutation slot

[halcyon dove]

some of the stronger muts can only be picked 2nd/4th

[sullen gust]

makes sense

then what do u guys recommend!!

[blazing jolt]

I bet if he is in the "hunder down" posture he cant be fliped

[halcyon dove]

im assuming youre new

efficient digestion, traum, epidermal, gastro/osteo

[mystic ivy]

I hope

[sullen gust]

i got enhanced dige for my first

[neon scaffold]

Congenital if you arent trike/rex

[halcyon dove]

then ignore the 1st

[sullen gust]

what about less hunger?

[halcyon dove]

thats efficient you goober

[sullen gust]

oh should I take it for my third instead then?

[clever matrix]

Is cannibal still free? If so, obviously take cannibal and join the edgy hot topic crowd.

[neon scaffold]

Enhanced digestion and efficient digestion are different btw. The first one decreases hunger decay which is actually bad for maintaining diets. (Though its good for general survivability if you struggle to find food) The second decreases nutrient decay which is obviously good for maintaining diets

[halcyon dove]

probably. drop epidermal for efficient

could also do efficient at 45%, enhanced at 50% then epidermal and traum

or go efficient at 50% since you already have enhanced and go epidermal 3rd and traum 4th. just depends on what you want

id suggest going efficient 2nd since youll likely starve before you reach 75% if youre new

[sullen gust]

I think il stick to that since its been getting harder to fill my stomach as a sub, thank you for your time

[sullen gust]

im new to gateway I used to play on spiro before they brought gateway

[halcyon dove]

godspeed soldier

[halcyon dove]

turtles are an absolutely insane amount of food, people camp their spawns tho so youll likely die there if youre unfortunate

[sullen gust]

well im currently grinding by the beach haha I think im good on turtles as im always camping they’re spawns

[halcyon dove]

turtles can sustain you for a damn long time, boars/deer as well. just depends how well you know where and how they spawn.

rex can sustain off of ai till 75%, then it gets risky to continue to do so

[sullen gust]

ah alright thank you for your time brotha

[halcyon dove]

rex has 120min of hunger, so efficient will boost that by 24minutes, which is insane lol

[halcyon dove]

good luck with the rex, if you get to 75% it takes 10 hours to go from 75-100. (i hope you perish cus i hate rexs lol)

[manic fulcrum]

I hope you get found by 6 ceratos

Charge bite asmr

[neon scaffold]

How long is rex base growth time?

[neon scaffold]

Thats one way to put it

[craggy ridge]

That's a lot of stank ass breaf

Need some Colgate to share amongst themselves

Nasty tooth pickin' rot eaters

[manic fulcrum]

The munchers

[halcyon dove]

trike/rex is 12 hrs at 100% diet to 75%, 75-100 is 10 hrs. so 22hrs

no sane rex will sit at 100% diet though. youll likely have 225-250%

[neon scaffold]

....i must be bad at the game because how do you do this

[halcyon dove]

throw up

[halcyon dove]

spawn in, find ai, throw up, wait, eat ai, find different ai, throw up, wait, eat ai, find different ai, throw up, wait, eat ai. boom. 250-290% diet

[neon scaffold]

Multiple times? Because i did a couple times on my last rex attempt and never got past 180% at the highest

[leaden cobalt]

The isle

[sullen gust]

holy 10 hours to go from 75 to 100? But I don’t think it’ll matter when I’m 75 as I’m already adult

[halcyon dove]

thrice will be enough to get 250-290%, its faster if you know where salt rocks are

[neon scaffold]

Ill keep this in mind then

[halcyon dove]

yeah, elder stage gets rid of growth bonus so it lasts longer

[craggy ridge]

Lov'em something special but them 'Ceraters could get the dead up'n runnin' wit thems garlic and pepper ass breaf

[halcyon dove]

you can puke after you get all 3 diets, but the higher your diets the less worth it is to puke. so i suggest just spamming rocks to lower food at that point

a single kill of your size will giga boost your diet as well because organs are a 1:2.2 ratio

[waxen glade]

pineapple

[shut shuttle]

why is mix packing still aloud

[neon scaffold]

Do gastroliths even work? I spent 15 minutes straight spamming gastroliths as my stego last night and i dont feel like it actually did anything

[craggy ridge]

Aloud

[shut shuttle]

yes aloud

[bleak wind]

It's totally canon

[shut shuttle]

ok so when i have 12 trikes in the same group nothings going to be done?

[fringe saffron]

is the creature out?

[bleak wind]

Which creature feature

[shut shuttle]

so you can limit packs of the same creature but they can group with each other?

flawed system.

theres no defending that.

[dapper dagger]

Late response, but I'm actually okay with doing this. I've said before that I'm okay with having Dilo sacrifice some speed in exchange for more agility. I'm willing to let it be slower than Omni, so that way Omni can still get away from it as the counterplay while Dilo beats it in a 1v1 fight in the scenario of trading some speed for agility.

I didn't imagine Dilo being super speedy before its inclusion anyways. Still let it outrun Cerato and Allo, of course, but yeah.

[cobalt flicker]

Are Allo able to pin a raptor or any other small to mid games when theyre sitting on top of a building, and it crouch inside and pinned me from below....was this a glitch or was he hacking i am not sure

[halcyon dove]

gastroliths increase your hunger drain for 60sec, you can see them work in real time if you press enter and hover over/off of your hunger over and over, then get the gastro buff and do it again.

i just wished they stacked

[bleak wind]

Mix pack is canon

[shut shuttle]

how is it "canon"

[cinder cave]

Atlas trike video

Rip my boi

Will be missed

[bleak wind]

Trike trail cam

[shut shuttle]

okay maybe show evidence instead of saying rip my boi thats highly unproffesional

[craggy ridge]

Atlas will be remembered

But Salt is My GOAT

[shut shuttle]

i'll look it up. sorry i got confused lol. i'll look it up rn

actually can i get a link because theres a few trike videos.

[cinder cave]

Bruh

[shut shuttle]

i was confused i thought you were talking about me my bad. i appologize.

[finite coyote]

mixherds have been shown in the videos, unsure if theres any carni cooperation in them

[cinder cave]

https://youtu.be/BPiNB4vP73I?si=3m0pQzerhC_4xvdr

Found the video

[shut shuttle]

thank you

[wintry heath]

Am I doing something seriously wrong, or is the pteranodon just this painfully frustrating to fly?

[halcyon dove]

spam spacebar to take off, tap space every 0.75sec to gain height, use air currents when possible, hold z to quick turn/slow down/cling to walls.

hold space and double tap ctrl to dive, hold dive for ~0.5-1sec, hold shift to sprint without consuming stam for ~30-45sec. avoid going uphill without using a air current when possible

[wintry heath]

Yeah no, I've been flying it for probably around 20-25 hours of playtime. I've been doing all of those things. so, the answer is, Yes Atomic, it is that painfully frustrating to fly?

A and D doesn't turn left or right, it turns in the direction you're looking, maybe, sometimes, when it feels like it. And picking up speed by diving is just not possible. Newton literally rolling in his grave.

[halcyon dove]

diving is used to do the no stam sprint for a bit, a/d turn you depending on your ptera head and your camera placement. its weird, i hate it too but got used to it

to turn easier face ur camera where ur pteras head is and follow it while holding a/d

[uncut mason]

im fairly sure holding alt is what allows you to move basede on head movement the oposite of the other species\

[somber urchin]

hawks diving? impossible.

[wintry heath]

Yeah... I hate that the "optimal" way to fly over distance, is to use what's clearly a bug. I've never experienced a more frustrating thing to fly in any game I've played. It's not difficult. Just very, very frustrating

[tardy breach]

@craggy ridge

[halcyon dove]

i dont think its a bug, but who really knows honestly.

you dont have to dive to do the no stam sprint, the no stam sprint happens cus ptera doesnt use stam to maintain its top speed, diving just gets you there stam free

[wintry heath]

I mean... There's no logical reason why a 0.5 second dive would make you sprint without spending stamina. That cannot be the way to solve it. Just drastically reduce staminna cost when flying leveled then?

[halcyon dove]

also might not be done fully. ptera will probably change again once they can get around to its ground stuff

[tropic trellis]

Has anyone ever logged into the game with access to some random nest?

[wintry heath]

Okay, I'm just lost for words. I love flying in all games, I have a decent sim setup. I've played games with some really strange flight controls. But this seems to be on a whole different level.

[misty pivot]

hi

[solar kestrel]

is there any indication of when rex's ambush is available again? or do you just have to know the timing?

[blissful shoal]

Iirc there’s 2 main reasons:
1: it would be incredibly hard to police it. We don’t have enough server admins to get rid of hackers, let alone have 24/7 surveillance of every server. Not to mention the fact how do you define mixpacking and how do you stop trolls or mixpackers from exploiting false positives and negatives.

2: devs think that having admins to police it is a boring way to do it and want to create a system that stops it organically. They have said they have an idea in the works, but they have not specified what it is yet (likely because they need to make sure it doesn’t have the fore mentioned false positives and negatives).

[lyric hollow]

Nope

[solar kestrel]

okay, ty

[blissful shoal]

You mean the egg menu? If so that’s normal if someone decided to make their eggs public. But it’s not all that common.

[wintry heath]

Oh, and I assume the devs are aware there are countless of invisible walls all over the sky and it's being worked on (at some point)?

[vital onyx]

report them in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

more reports = betterer

[tropic trellis]

No, I mean I logged in, there's a nest icon which I thought was a visual bug at first, but I can also actually control their nest, gestate eggs, set them to public or private.

[wintry heath]

If I come across one again, I will. But they are quite frankly. Everywhere. But with how terrible flying is. I doubt I'll be in the sky anytime soon until the bird gets updated.

[somber urchin]

walls as in they knock you out of the sky so you fall and need to recover, or the animation that ptera makes when flying in a storm that makes it look like it "stumbles"?

[blissful shoal]

You can gestate eggs without a nest, I can’t remember if you can set them to public and such before laying or not tho.

However I don’t think I have had a random nest icon appear. Unless you paired with someone previously, are still paired on your end, but the partner has made a separate nest. So the game thinks that nest is yours. Otherwise I got no clue.

[wintry heath]

Walls as inn, it knocks you out of the sky so you need to recover.

[somber urchin]

dang

[tropic trellis]

I swear they aren't my kids XD. I can see the nickname of the person that the nest belongs to, there were already eggs in it, and the temperature changes as well. It's nowhere near me either.

[blissful shoal]

Odd, def a bug lol

[tropic trellis]

Never happened to me before. Bug assigned parent. I wonder if I'm even the same specie, probably not.

[blissful shoal]

I’d assume you would be the same species to interact with the nest. If not then that’s a whole other can of bugs lmao

[tropic trellis]

Well it says Eggs: 5 in the description of the nest, but I can only make 4 max as a pt...

[vital onyx]

dove

[sleek marsh]

Erm achtually

[somber urchin]

chameleon

[cinder cave]

Well well well

[somber urchin]

wiwiwi

[vital onyx]

we have reached an impasse

[somber urchin]

oh.

[blissful shoal]

Uh oh

[slow obsidian]

how to kick with maia?

I can't seem to do it

[neon scaffold]

switch to quadrupedal stance, and use your alt attack while looking backwards/sideways

[slow obsidian]

doesn't work somehow

[opaque sandal]

Today I felt for the first time the pain of losing my nest

Gotta say

Pretty painful

Would not reccomend

[somber urchin]

do you have manual alt attack selected in your gane menu

[slow obsidian]

yes

[tropic trellis]

I have made it to the location, it might be a hypsi nest.

[misty pivot]

hypsilophodon

[neon scaffold]

only thing i can think of is to clear your config folder

[somber urchin]

on an official server? or an unofficial?

[slow obsidian]

js deleting it right?

[neon scaffold]

yeah

[tropic trellis]

Official.

[somber urchin]

oh.

[tropic trellis]

Maybe it's some kind of bug with the solo nesting system, because I can only see the mother's name (my pt is female as well)

[somber urchin]

@arctic sluice sorry to bother you! this is an interesting one if you care to read through. heard of it?

[somber urchin]

[somber urchin]

maybe! that is wild tho. feel like it'd be super difficult to make happen again.

[tropic trellis]

No clue what could've triggered it. Feels a little invasive because I've been accepting their egg requests and gestating more for them XD

[golden thistle]

kentrosaurus stampede

[misty pivot]

kentro guy

[paper willow]

THANK YOU MR CERA FOR EXISTING, I WAS SO HUNGRY I ALT BIT U TO DEATH AND ALL TYSM

[somber urchin]

please record it if you have the ability!

[somber urchin]

i am wildly intrigued.

[tropic trellis]

I have the auto recording set, I can send you the stuff!

[plucky sigil]

did you guys know that allo can facetank and spam bite dibble till it dies?

[slow obsidian]

me when i lie

[plucky sigil]

go to a pvp server and fight an allo as dibble, they do it everytime

if u run away to get distance, they just run around you

[haughty bay]

which MORON in the dev team decided to make the grass go with the wind without it being toggeable

[unkempt grail]

what does that even mean

[plucky sigil]

i guess maybe just make the grass stiff so it reduces lag

is what that guy is sayin

[haughty bay]

cant make it stiff because no one put an option to toggle it

[cinder cave]

It really doesn’t make a difference

[haughty bay]

it does on lower end pcs

[cinder cave]

I have a lower end pc, the grass textures are 2d, it’s not that much of a difference

[haughty bay]

the grass waddling around is gpu intensive

[arctic sluice]

sounds a bit like an old bug but I haven’t played in months so I’m not sure!

[haughty bay]

atleast have an option to disable it zawg

[somber urchin]

ahh gotcha! no worries.

[void marlin]

Me when no Anky

[feral shadow]

you are a cat

[cinder cave]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-cat-mocking-gif-13935821400850516732

[void marlin]

Thanks

[void marlin]

You shut up random fake owl

[feral shadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1083351055074598943/1184100390187311134/u_have_completely_destroyed_me.gif

[uncut torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1363686248409071626/1364004034653982721/Arismug-R_ISAIDFASTER.gif

[tawdry ermine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1083659510025039872/1092576695350992936/bounce.gif

[feral shadow]

fellow votv enjoyer

[uncut torrent]

Good Evening Dr.Kel

[shrewd meteor]

velociraptor

[drifting axle]

are the islands out here accessible?

[shrewd meteor]

they were

[misty pivot]

the islands are gone

[feral shadow]

i ate them

[drifting axle]

why were they removed?

[uncut torrent]

Cause someone got Hungry

[drifting axle]

instead there's these

[pastel rock]

To stop me from exploring them.

[misty pivot]

thanks egull

[neon elk]

no more Britain

[shrewd meteor]

i wish that island stayed and got made habitable in some way

[pastel rock]

You're welcome, (im) Xenon.

[drifting axle]

LOL

it kind of does look like the UK

I'm searching for Beipi paradise

[blissful shoal]

Brexit

[neon elk]

woah

[cinder cave]

Wi wi wa

[shrewd meteor]

wrong

[uncut torrent]

Your Ariral gif has been pocketed

[neon elk]

people who say that get

[drifting axle]

lovely

[feral shadow]

yours too

great trade

[neon elk]

no

[uncut torrent]

Twas a pleasure

[somber urchin]

u ya ya

[neon elk]

was it?

does that mean you do not contain the pleasure of such now? Giving twas infers past

[drifting axle]

THE ISLANDS ARE INACCESSABLE
I'm cooked!

[silk iron]

[drifting axle]

cool though

[drifting axle]

the dome

[teal mist]

Thanks

[uncut torrent]

Indeed as there is no exchanges occurring as of this instance

[teal mist]

Thank you

Im hungry

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExY3o0bzJpaDFjdXhhYmtpZGRidHN6dWxvNjc2YmplMnAwcHpkdjAwaCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/bwYVXGojo5zbkt9CIX/giphy.gif

[blissful shoal]

I see why you’re named fatrick

[lime tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358240117399093324/1467009026758934666/quetz_madness.gif

[teal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/in-n-out-cheeseburger-rotating-fast-food-delicious-gif-371885385727031257

[blissful shoal]

Now I want burger

[wintry cypress]

get burger

[coarse nimbus]

i had in-n-out last night lol

[flat basin]

rapid dehydration, may vomit
Fluid deficency

[manic fulcrum]

Man I want isle patch

[vital onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1126408650014076948/slendertree_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.mp4?ex=69975f0d&is=69960d8d&hm=bb96bcb7173a180a739ab9ff2af9a6772fcc8a4c2453fea5379aaf695157ff45&

[manic fulcrum]

Petite pieds. Best players.

[pliant urchin]

Twas - past
Tis - present
Twill - future

[neon elk]

I know, such is why I bring the question

[pliant urchin]

Tis a question indeed

[neon elk]

You do not believe in the ever lasting idea of pleasure? I see

[neon scaffold]

Twont

[vital onyx]

LMAO

[neon elk]

I suppose tis the world we live in
To live in the now we must have to indulge only in the now, to fulfil our nows with the material . Bloating our pockets with millions of quickly fuzzed out fads and things.

Oh life

[vital onyx]

nuh uh

[neon elk]

Yay

[crude girder]

Lore

[neon elk]

not yet

[lost citrus]

ye

[uncut torrent]

How philosophical of you

[lost citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/quarter-pipe-sassy-the-sasquatch-crash-fail-skateboard-gif-9607681587745473769

[craggy ridge]

Thank you buddy!! Ill read it when I have a moment!

[remote geode]

Sometimes I can’t grab meat chunks or organs from a body, is that a bug going around?

[arctic sluice]

enLighten me

[neon elk]

sorry, i read it off a cereal box i think

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/rowan-atkinson-atkinson-rowanatkinson-mister-bean-bean-gif-7927573749584165785

[arctic sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/wine-glass-time-gif-27127541

[neon elk]

oh

[uncut torrent]

Spectacular

[somber urchin]

Splendid

[verbal sparrow]

guys Guys, the entomb doesn't work, the mutations I have don't work. I have 10% gastronomic damage and I'm not healing. I have traumatic damage, and even when I'm sitting down, I can't stop healing.

[somber urchin]

entombing only works at 100% growth

[sweet breach]

Have devs said anything about a fix when the bugged body thing will be fixed? eating right now is so busted.

[verbal sparrow]

I mean that the mutations I have from my entomb aren't working.

[coarse nimbus]

Thrombosis prevents you from bleeding out when resting, it doesnt made your bleed stop quicker if i recall correctly

[verbal sparrow]

I don't think you understand, I'm sitting down and the bleeding won't stop.

[somber urchin]

with traumatic thrombosis you can get to 0% bleed and you will not die. as long as you are sitting

it will eventually start healing. just don't get up.

[coarse nimbus]

You wont die, keep resting lol

[past dune]

hey

[somber urchin]

uh oh. what happened, hacker?

[crude girder]

Depression

[past dune]

nothing much.

[pastel rock]

Woah it's Protoiggy!!

[somber urchin]

that is far too real, bear.

[crude girder]

EGULL

[pastel rock]

Indubitably

[crude girder]

the guy from 2020 islecord i think

[pastel rock]

That's me!

[past dune]

sigh
My download of Update 2 worked fine but I can't join the server that's being hosted on it because of the old bug where servers not in your region wouldn't show up on the server list.

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-mad-skeleton-gif-10886506202898815019

[past dune]

sigh
Which would be fine... but I don't have a VPN that I can easily control to place me in the EU.

Meaning...
No Update 2 for me.

[coarse nimbus]

I can ask lima once i dry my hair and get back into the call

[crude girder]

Oh

[real pendant]

From what I understand, it prevents you from dying of blood loss

[past dune]

boing.sfx

[past dune]

What's wrong with its face.

[indigo cave]

Wdym? It's the face of the perfect creature

[past dune]

Its got two extra holes.

[indigo cave]

What? Where?

[lapis warren]

This like isn’t important at all but like I hope Deino’s and Austro’s have a relationship like this

[indigo cave]

Would be great but deino players ain't chill like that

[lapis warren]

Yea 🥲

[pastel rock]

I'm sure they will, for about 5 seconds.

[indigo cave]

That's a cool gull

[pastel rock]

Thank you, one might call it, mighty. @hexed crater (Blink emoji)

[crude girder]

Muted for life

[past dune]

So sad.

[hollow linden]

Eagle

[grizzled garden]

if i have more than 4 mutations, is it possible for my offspring to inherit more than 4 mutations when nested in? or is it capped at 4?

[indigo cave]

Only 4

The ones you picked that life they will get

[stuck notch]

Why is glass bones a thing and why doesn’t it go away

[iron spear]

hey super random, did you ever get around to posting ur ini tweaks? super curious now that i have dlss working

[stuck notch]

My LITERAL first time getting pinned by a Rex as a 4x entomb prime deino, I win the fight only to realize I now have fractured and glass bones, WITH a 30% reduce/resist fracture mutation. What is the point

[uncut mason]

Glass bones is broken we all agree

[stuck notch]

Well now all the time I spent growing a 4x entomb is wasted because a stupid debuff

Permanently debuffed on something I spent 40+ hours growing is insane

[craggy ridge]

Least you got a story now

[rich mist]

i got a new graphics card and now im able to run the isle on full epic settings at 60 fps

[craggy ridge]

Now run dynamic clouds and max shadows

[rich mist]

60 fps....

once i get into the woods it dips a lil

[covert fog]

Is this hacking or what

[neon walrus]

could be, the hits were body hits or just tail hits?

if its body its cheats, if its tails its lag/desync

[covert fog]

For me when i was on the rock i think it was 2 body hits atleasty

I bled out from them

[neon walrus]

the first hit looked legit, the second one less so

you were close enough and jumping hitboxes are wack (a pachy once swated me midair)

[tame temple]

https://tenor.com/view/quaritch-dance-avatar-gif-14633662971059361936

[covert fog]

Well even with the first one i was above him

[neon walrus]

Trust me, jumping is not a good way to dodge

99/100 you still get hit

[covert fog]

Well what about the other 5 hits where the raptors were 5 feet away

[neon walrus]

Those were sus as hell. He is hacking 90% chance

[covert fog]

Yes it looked the same in game btw i saw it immediately, i know f2 looks weird sometimes but even if they were all tail hit except 1 body hit i dont think that would be enough to bleed me out. If it is thats so stupid considering how the allo wasnt even adult

[neon walrus]

Allo does stupid bleed, but yeah, normally 1 bite isnt enough to bleed someone out

if it was a claw attack you would bleed out if not flat out die from the hit tho

[grizzled garden]

noted, thank you!

[indigo cave]

[covert fog]

The claw attack doesnt do that much damage but yeah i wouldve definetly bled out from that or even an alt attack but not a normal bite

[strong wren]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-skull-quaritch-recom-navi-the-way-of-water-gif-27270335

[tame temple]

[blissful vector]

hey guys whats the state of the ilse right now? Is legacy still a thing?

Been years since I've played, before they added cera to envirma

[crude girder]

Yeah (unfortunately)

[crude girder]

Theyve added alot since then

[tacit fable]

Do you guys like diablo?

[crude girder]

Yeah

[vapid pumice]

specifically,

Gateway
Migrations
Patrol Zones
Pattern C
Dilophosaurus
Herrerasaurus
Diabloceratops
Tyrannosaurus
Triceratops
Maiasaura
Pteranodon rework
Foliage redesign
Elder System
Mutations
Sparring
Carnotaurus rework
Nightvision rework
Hypsilophodon climbing

[crude girder]

Dibble is awesome and cool

[tacit fable]

You want to play?

[crude girder]

No

[tacit fable]

Ok

[tardy scroll]

I wish they would add a anky

[tacit fable]

Yes

[crude girder]

1: i cant
2: im not playing officials and only play on mettas den
3: yeah

[tacit fable]

That’s ok

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/harvest-yeahilif-gif-21827635

[vapid pumice]

forgor to add hypsi climbing to that list

[vivid ferry]

Can you not hold pounce on omni anymore?

[tacit fable]

Idk

[vivid ferry]

yeah cuz like everytime I hold rmb I dont stay on

[vapid pumice]

you dont have to hold RMB, infact RMB is bugged rn iirc and doesnt have correct bleed values

basically, you pounce on. once youre on the animal, youre in the neutral position. hold LMB to do a damage focused attack, and RMB for (what is supposed to be) a bleed focused attack

[crude girder]

Neutral pounce doing more bleed than the bleed pounce

[vivid ferry]

Oh what I didnt know that

I thought you just hold rmb and thats it

[carmine storm]

Neutral pounce is the bleed pounce. Pretty sure left click is damage pounce

[vapid pumice]

rmb (the intended bleed pounce) is not neutral, no

it is simply bugged

[coarse nimbus]

Rmb is bleed, Lmb is damage. Rmb’s bleed values are currently not right and need to be adjusted. Neutral also does bleed, but once it gets fixed, you’ll want to use rmb

[carmine storm]

Don’t you hold rmb after pouncing anyways?

[vapid pumice]

you dont have to, no

[carmine storm]

Oh okay

[vapid pumice]

carno is one of the best playables in game right now what do you mean

[opaque sandal]

This hole has claimed 6 victims in like the 10 minutes I've been down here

Icl I may have sped up some of those but still

an inescapable abyss of geometry

[vapid pumice]

yarg it could use some adjustments

ideally removing pounce immunity from standing rmb + reducing bleed on headbutt as a whole + reduce CC from standing headbutt

maybe make standing headbutt take slightly more stamina as well

i dont care about carno punching up because it is not meant to

but yes prime being a necessity is an (almost) roster wide problem

[crude girder]

No

Lmb is damage
Rmb is bleed

[vapid pumice]

i mean... id argue prime elder carno is one of the best examples of what a prime elder should do lol

rather than just being generalized buffs, carno genuinely excels at its niche evenmore so than it does as an adult

yes, it needs some balancing changes but ive already the balance changes i would make

if you want carno to be hunting large game, than the isle's carno just isnt for you

the elder system was never going to change that

i dont see what real life has to do with any of this

[past dune]

At this point I would rather take a heavier, stronger, but slower carno than the current carno which feels like it just doesn't have a valid role.

[cobalt flicker]

what a joke, bluetooth pinned. Hard earned hours gone to waste thanks to bugg, and ofcourse please dont be that one guy "i never experience this"😂

[past dune]

What uh.... what's the bug?

[crude girder]

Raptor teleported to the roof?

Im confused

[vapid pumice]

he sent the screenshots in reverse

[cobalt flicker]

the the second pic is the frst one

[vapid pumice]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 for the win

[crude girder]

I see…

[past dune]

Oh, yeah Allo can pin roughly half a body height above itself whenever it lunges. It can catch pteras with it as well.

[crude girder]

Elsa bloodstone ult in rivals

[cobalt flicker]

meh, at this point i give up, Devs are trying, nothings getting fixed, jst gotta learn to cry a lil bit less, jst wanted to share my exp

[past dune]

So, sitting on the roof, you were probably just barely within range for it.

[vapid pumice]

ok, have fun giving up

[cobalt flicker]

theres no need to giv up, jst sharing my exp about the bluetooth pin

[vapid pumice]

reminds me of the UP4 MT where people complained about how long it took to fix bugs, but then also refused to put in bug reports

[crude girder]

You said you were giving up…

[past dune]

Bluetooth pin is a new word for me.
Thats fun.

[crude girder]

That happens all the time tbh

[cobalt flicker]

Ofcourse i did reported, what do you think?

[crude girder]

Dub

[vapid pumice]

your response to me directing you to #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 was literally "meh, at this point i give up"

what the hell am i supposed to infer

[past dune]

Hello george.

[crude girder]

My name is not george

[vapid pumice]

curious george maybe

[past dune]

Oh.

[crude girder]

I am not curious nor george

[vapid pumice]

you should be curious

[past dune]

He is serious steve...

[crude girder]

I am a protoceratops

[cobalt flicker]

cant u read between the lines, i reported it, but the report ratio to getting fixed is slow thats why i said meh, is it that hard to empathise!

[crude girder]

I drink ocean water and dig

[past dune]

Is it a bug if it's just the normal hitbox range? 🤔

[uncut mason]

The pin definitely needs a counter, but not one that always works. Any ideas?

[lucid urchin]

Don't scrutinise people for trying to suggest useful resources.

[crude girder]

Remove pin

Sorry i got silly

[remote geode]

Why can’t I grab organs off bodies? Bug?

[sour swan]

i think alot of you forget that people come from live update games where bugs and jankyness aren't the norm and treat their disappointment or complaints as ignorant because they aren't accustomed to it

[vapid pumice]

i think it has somewhat been implied that some animals will have a way to fight back manually

so uh... retaliation damage but manual and with more spice i think

[crude girder]

🐞 (its a bug)

[remote geode]

Ofc..

[uncut mason]

Interesting ideas

[cobalt flicker]

sigh....

[past dune]

I think that pin not having retaliation is fine, but there needs to be some work required before you actually land the pin. Make the pin a reward that leads to the kill rather than being the attack

[midnight tundra]

Evil Dondi be like: 500 Cerato nerfs!

[past dune]

Or just treat it like a critical hit that is only possible when you break the stance of your opponent. Then it could be a component of combat beyond just the pinning animals.

I think instantly pinning things that are significantly lighter than you is fine though. Since it would be kinda silly if an Allo couldn't just pin an Omni.

[cobalt flicker]

are we allowed to send youtube link in the chat? i wanna share the video of my exp if thats allowed

[past dune]

I don't see how more layers and depth to the combat is a bad thing.

[vapid pumice]

yeah you can send youtube links

[cobalt flicker]

https://youtu.be/sFW8KrpMHNA?si=nsRZSQWLfusmuoqH

[cobalt flicker]

before anything else, the player tht pinned me is not a hacker by any means

[vapid pumice]

yeah that looks like what we thought happened

[past dune]

Likely just a pin in most cases.
Could also be extended to impaling the creature on horns/spikes/claws. Or a thrash, death roll, or whatever else. It would just be creature specific.

[cobalt flicker]

Praying bugs get fixed soon

whats a ETA brother

[somber urchin]

where did they ask?

[shrewd meteor]

I wouldnt say thats an eta

[cobalt flicker]

huh? am confused

[versed lodge]

i need ptera rework.........

[lucid urchin]

That's more for content releases. Patches are a bit different. Same rule still kind of applies though.

[past dune]

Repeated attacks that knock the animal off balance. Things like headbutts, CC damage, stuns, fractures, etc. Could also extend it so your "stance bar" is reduced when the victim is low on blood. Once enough are landed in succession it would knockdown or otherwise break the stance of the target. Then making em vulnurable to your pin or whatever else.

[trim swallow]

Ok agl trunks

[cobalt flicker]

whts an ETA, i am not nerd enough to understand sry, is it violation?

[past dune]

No, it would apply to pretty much anything. Just some creatures would be more designed around it than others.

[lucid urchin]

Estimated Time for Arrival.

[cobalt flicker]

ah i see now, ty

[past dune]

You keep saying it would be obnoxious but I fail to see how this would harm the player experience much. It really wouldn't be hard to make it clear to the player how it works and how to take advantage of it.

[dense swan]

need a ht so badly

[vapid pumice]

i need baryonyx

[spring fern]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-hello-monster-monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-gif-1477428599339858067

[vapid pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/sardines-fish-spongebob-talk-talking-gif-10409704

[coarse nimbus]

see people say this and then immediately start complaining about all the bug issues in a hordetest lol