Minmi is very accurate, to the samples we have
#general-feedback-discussion
barren zephyr
barren zephyr
Suchomimus is generally decent
white rune
and it would be nice
barren zephyr
The Evrima model built off this design and gave it a throat pouch
white rune
Suchomimus is really representive of the animal and has a fairly good look
best Spinosaurid of the game
barren zephyr
still raptor
The Evrima model built off this design and gave it a throat pouch
The evrima model is the same model.
barren zephyr
oh
barren zephyr
mainly the way it's postured
hasty jackal
@azure sinew to bring this discussion to an end. subjective opinions arent valid when it comes to objective ones. The new spino looks "cool" in an edgy way and as a standalone creature inspired by spinosaurus it would work for me, i like the godzilla look they have going on, its mainstream and uninspired, but kinda cool in a wa, but its just not a spinosaurus nor realistic. My point isnt to tell you what you should or shouldnt like, my point is to make dinosaur depiction as accurate as possible for the time they are released, so that they help spread knowledge to a broader audience. Do you know how many people still think of dinosaurs as the jp monsters nowadays? and this game is reinforcing that view. either rename the "dinosaurs" in game to something fictive or make them accurate. As i said primal carnage called their raotor "novaraptor" which is a fucking brilliant way to get out of this. Or go the route of beasts of bermuda and path of titans that are making their new models more accurate to what we know.
barren zephyr
And The Isle attracts these retro dinosaur "bigots"
barren zephyr
<@!477087325512531980> to bring this discussion to an end. subjective opinions a...
No, the isle isn't going for a true realistic approach
That's saurian.
hasty jackal
No, the isle isn't going for a true realistic approach
That's saurian.
read it again, thats exactly my point
barren zephyr
Saurian has dedication to paleoaccuracy, though not the isle necessarily
BUT actually trying to do a good job at having reasonable designs (proportionally and anatomically) would be good.
barren zephyr
read it again, thats exactly my point
But it's not.
Your point is to have non-realistic dinos and change their name.
People want to play stuff as Trex - it's a popular name, or even Spino.
They don't need to change their names JUST because they don't look accurate
white rune
Unfortunately, The Isle doesn't go for accurate designs all of the time.
They wanna go for what would be viable and accurate Spino..well as much as I adore it wouldn't really work without actual modifications.
The Isle spino skull is horrible, I would like to have a more accurate one. Sail is okayish. It is a basal theropod unfortunately.
I would have way prefered something like this or closer to the concept art with B head :
hasty jackal
Unfortunately, The Isle doesn't go for accurate designs all of the time.
They w...
agreed
white rune
But it's not.
Your point is to have non-realistic dinos and change their name.
...
Ngl I would like to not call Acro, Alberto and Austro by their names 
Same for Anky
hasty jackal
But it's not.
Your point is to have non-realistic dinos and change their name.
...
its kinda giving the actual creature a bad look tho. as i said what if they made a croc more badass looking and buffer with short horns and spikes, some would say "it looks cool" but it wouldnt be a croc
barren zephyr
its kinda giving the actual creature a bad look tho. as i said what if they made...
Does it always give a create a bad look?
Look at Minmi, on how they're changing it's niche.
It's pretty good, and makes it viable.
Which is one of the things the devs want (mainly, one of the largest things the devs care about). Viability
white rune
That's called Deinosuchus with its massive osteoderms.
barren zephyr
And our deinosuchus is quite okay, except with some anatomical shortcomings, mainly with the tail (which tapers rather than being a proper sort of paddle)
hasty jackal
Ngl I would like to not call Acro, Alberto and Austro by their names <:TI_Wheeze...
the acro looks like a horrible monster, but if it was its own creature than sure go for it, dont call it acro tho, its just not an acro. i agree with you
barren zephyr
it doesn't even look like a carchar
still raptor
Acro doesn't even resemble a Carchara.
white rune
Does it always give a create a bad look?
Look at Minmi, on how they're changin...
I also agree with that. As long as it looks good I'm okay with.
Look at Tenonto, Magy, Ovi, Hypsi, Theri. They are for from accurate but they look nice.
Acro is an abomination.
still raptor
We can all agree that Acro, Austro, and Albert need serious changes.
white rune
Only the skull looks cool
barren zephyr
Acro is an abomination.
don't forget everything is subject to change if the devs see a need
white rune
Then make rounder Anky back. Change a bit Austro head and neck.
barren zephyr
barren zephyr
still raptor
Austro head can stay the same. Just don't make it ginormous.
hasty jackal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742213283158818857/829851823044558848/unk...
wish that was in the isle
hasty jackal
Does it always give a create a bad look?
Look at Minmi, on how they're changin...
i like that they go specualtive with the behaviours to an extant, but full on tunnel digging is too far
hasty jackal
but to be fair i dont mind that as much as the designs being butchered (not minmi)
barren zephyr
i like that they go specualtive with the behaviours to an extant, but full on tu...
but it's not full tunnel digging though?
Minmi only makes a small den
pale schooner
It ain’t meant to be realistic, minmi is essentially a turtle hippo and without it would get bodied by the rest of the roster
white rune
It ain’t meant to be realistic, minmi is essentially a turtle hippo and without ...
Hide in the mud and in the jungle.
Things that can get bodied are Magy and Ava.
Ava being the most fucked
barren zephyr
Things that can get bodied are Magy and Ava.
well... magy...
pale schooner
Mechanics are put in place to make this video game more interesting. Hiding in the jungle really just doesn’t sound as fun as digging a den imo
barren zephyr
white rune
I would suggest Ava to be a jungle nocturnal animal, able to dig up mud and then to roll in it like a boar.
hasty jackal
as i said, the speculative behaviour is a secondary problem for me
the designs like acro are major issues
white rune
Okay, magy concept. What will it do against mid tiers ?
barren zephyr
Okay, magy concept. What will it do against mid tiers ?
shoulder bump, look at cerato
has thick skin against bites
pale schooner
Ava does have perfect horns for boar style burrowing
barren zephyr
Magy can see off Ceratosaurus, and apparently it has been made distasteful (probably through making it mildly toxic like a toad, though for some reason that is not the case according to the devs)
barren zephyr
Ava does have perfect horns for boar style burrowing
no?
hasty jackal
and the fact that there is creature more suitable to take those rolls the devs force others into
pale schooner
The horns curve down, pretty good for digging. I’m now basing this off of paleo bs
white rune
Acro..well rolls it
barren zephyr
Boars usually use their tusks for defense
barren zephyr
Ceratopsians on the other hand use their horns for recognising each other or attracting the opposite sex
pale schooner
Nocturnal I agree with
white rune
able to dig up mud in the forest
barren zephyr
Ceratopsians on the other hand use their horns for recognising each other or att...
think cows and rhinos rather than hogs
white rune
so it can mask its scent and flee in the jungle
hasty jackal
speculative behaviour is nice until they change the design of the creature for it and i wouldnt have as much of a problem with minmis behaviour if they would show the same level of accuracy, when designing the other dinos
barren zephyr
Secondly you do not need tusks or horns for digging necessarily
pale schooner
I’m not basing this off of paleo behaviors. I’m going off what would fit it for the game
still raptor
I bring this solution. Mods.
hasty jackal
but as it stands the devs look like they are unsuitable to create a dinosaur game
barren zephyr
not necessarily
pale schooner
Yeah ofc you don’t need horns. Think tortoises etc. but Ava having them seems pretty obv. I can see an animation where it uses the horns to assist digging for roots or a den
barren zephyr
I bring this solution. Mods.
modding great
white rune
Avaceratops :
+Nocturnal animal
+Diet based on jungle plants, roots and things with rich minerals in them
+Can create mud by digging in the forest ground
+Good endurance
+Can hide
-Not really nimble
-Quiet slow
-Cannot fight animals bigger than Dilophosaurus
-Digging for mud doesn't work in arid/dry areas
pale schooner
Digging for mud is a pretty good idea
white rune
Just go full boar.
pale schooner
Keeps it elusive w the wallow
sand oar
but as it stands the devs look like they are unsuitable to create a dinosaur gam...
Well this is not only a dinosaur game you forget humans, cannibals and also strains.
If you are looking for some paleo accurate Dinos then this is the wrong game.
barren zephyr
Saurian
The reason why I am here is because I am interested in worldbuilding
and also i like dinosaurs
but some things in the isle which are especially awkward are trying to cram in the legacy roster alongside new additions
and also progression (e.g. Bary/Sucho, Maia/Shant, Ava/Diablo)
also I do not see the point in** 4 superpredators in the game**
Tyrannosaurus, Spinosaurus, Giganotosaurus and Acrocanthosaurus
and Giga and Acro are especially problematic
In Legacy they would not have coexisted in Survival. And now they will in Evrima.
And the two are really similar in regards to being large carnivores that have strong arms with meathook hands as well as a big head with serrated teeth
pale schooner
They’ll be given different mechanics prob, tho at a point when is acro not just a half grown giga
Prob why it’s so fat, to make him a body slamming football player
white rune
That's what I want
but
not with this design
I hope it will have better proportions
and a redone humpback shape
More like this sail honeslty and no neck tumor.
Also if it tackles down, give it better arms to.
white rune
Me when beefy acro looks good.
The humpback should still be a little bit noticeable and give it Chilantaisaurus/Siats like arms.
Welp
actually
this one is meh
Yeah this one.
that
good enough arms
beefy
Acro head
🤌
gritty hawk
flat crypt
@haughty cliff Not sure if this is the specific issue you're having, but if you fly normally just changing camera angle won't make you change direction. You don't need to hold w when flying, so you can look around freely
sacred flower
is anyone else getting severe frame drops
whenever i attack anything
it goes down to like 10 fps from 144
sleek ingot
Was the Tenontosaurus attack sounds touched up? I feel as if they sound deeper.
paper oriole
F
barren zephyr
damn
sacred delta
watch out for it if you do it happened to me by centre in that little intersection to a small cave with a waterfall
it just sucks you in and wont let you out
blazing cloak
1 hour of: Click "Play" -> Scanning -> Spot a free slot -> Double-Click -> "Loading" -> Click "I understand" -> <- Repeat
That stress test is crowded XD
night sand
@thin bough i tried that, and couldnt escape
scarlet crystal
So, anyone else considering joining a server at like 5AM just to get in, then just staying in it, permanently?
sick stump
anyone run into the problem of not being able to fly for no reason?
mellow chasm
More servers please! I want to play so bad♡♡♡
ebon girder
@hasty jackal The game isnt going for realistic designs, also shants spines probally did show so theres no reason to rage on it like you did
urban flax
No, no. There is no way any animal's vertebrae can stick out from its back. But apparently they're just spikes so it's fine I guess.
paper oriole
Servers are like 50%+ deino players and people cry about cannibalism
slender forum
after 45 minutes I give up impossible to connect ....
static niche
Can we stop repeating the queue system suggestion. It’s been repeated like 5 times already today
barren zephyr
Can we stop repeating the queue system suggestion. It’s been repeated like 5 tim...
sorry didn't see any others
static niche
steady lintel
sorry didn't see any others
devs had already said they cant do it atm so thats another reason to just drop it for now
paper oriole
No point in adding actual feedback or suggestions rn as it gets immediately buried by “can't connect to server” “add queue” “buff deino” “help i'm stuck” “cannibalism!!!1!”
static niche
Basic spam suggestions that the Devs already know about probably lmao
paper oriole
And people reporting the same bugs n shit in feedback instead of using the submission form 
static niche
paper oriole
There's been a few decent suggestions and feedback made about the stress test dinos that has drowned kinda like the deinos in that cave suck hole
steady lintel
worldly finch
Ver 3.
Danger zone in cave. The cave with the open top. If you travel to the the bottom where the rocks are, you may get sucked under the map.
It happens every time so steer clear. I drowned twice.
static niche
sounds like an adventure
worldly finch
The first time I got out ok
barren zephyr
wish there was that place irl
worldly finch
Swam under the map
paper oriole
Enter the cave suck hole if you dare
worldly finch
lol
static niche
The queue system isn’t really going to be needed once the update makes it to the main evirma game tbh
when the game gets bigger and all of the legacy people migrate, ye
worldly finch
takes so long to get into one of the servers
halcyon moon
ive been tring to join one of the stress test servers for over an hour
static niche
they’re probably not gonna keep it on qa for much longer. once they tweak and fix bugs, they’re gonna push it to main game
halcyon moon
they just need 3 or 4 more servers so that people can play
worldly finch
They should just let it out. 100,000 people playing would help id most of the bugs.
barren zephyr
They can monitor QA a lot more than unofficial servers
static niche
ye
barren zephyr
@karmic bane You need to refresh the game, and click 'disable empty' servers from the server menu. ; )
cyan flame
@devout sun Fixing hitboxes and bite sockets and all that is a given, so that one is fine, and I'm sure they will fix it as soon as possible. As for the rest, no. It's been stated the devs want the deino to use the grab and drown to kill. Increasing damage to 600, is fine. It will hurt utahs and carnos more, while still not one shotting. And no, again, the lunge is meant to work with the grab. It does do damage, which is fine, but giving it a massive damage to things it can not grab would just make it hunt them all the more easy, despite it not being supposed to hunt them in the first place. Besides, it's the thing you lunge that gets stunned from what I know, not you. It is possible the stun is applied to both sides I suppose, but I'm pretty sure the target gets stunned if it does not get grabbed.
random imp
deino survival is meant to be hell. right now you are lucky or you get eaten. end of story. when underwater stuff is added smaller deinos will be able to dart through logs and roots, where adults can't reach them. but it will still be hell, and that's ok. if you can't handle the difficult deino survival play as utah, or something else. not all gameplays need to be generic and ok with everyone. for example i'm 100% ok with deino gameplay and how hard it is to survive. and yhea, if you stay still deino won't detect you. if you move you'll get the blue ripples. @valid zephyr
cyan flame
I read the announcement text the same way to be fair, but I've been told that it does stun the target.
devout sun
I mentioned it in my message but I'll quote Dr. Bard's message in Balance Feedback
cyan flame
And I would agree, if the deino was designed to do that. But it's not, it's designed to grab and drown, not "fight". So realism aside, that is also why it does not one shot even utahs.
devout sun
"now sure let that be fore the standard bites, but for our lundge bite that needs to be 1500N at least, this way we are actually damn rewarded for landing this things ambush, telling me some near 40FT river monster slamming its jaws with nearly twice the force of a rex isn't going to clap a adult stego if it gets the head, that mf should be sent to the damn shadow realm my guys."
cyan flame
Exactly, and that's not okay
You do not get to oneshot, or even get close, to something that also grows the same time
Especially not when you're not meant to hunt things you can not grab
I get it realism wise, but again, deino is not meant to function that way, at least not as of now
devout sun
Risk/Reward needs to be changed regardless I think
cyan flame
Adult stegos are not on a deinos prey list unless they are already wounded/weak or similar, simple as that
devout sun
It's really tough to hit a good ambush
with all the things going against you, such as right now at least
your hurtbox
and your massive size
on the usually shallow riverbeds
cyan flame
Now, cranking up the deinos damage to 600 would be fine. I would also suggest removing, if there is any, head multiplier on the deino. It does sort of have armor, and this would make it a bit tankier and more scary on land, while still not making it a good fighter/hunter unless things are grabbed or already swimming.
Fair, but that's a map/river issue in some ways, plus the obvious hitbox issues that I did state should be fixed, no questions on that one.
devout sun
Yeah, I have also noticed that bite times don't line up with Deino either.
I have perfectly pre-timed an alt bite to delete the utah that I saw running up behind me
I literally close my jaw on it and do no damage
and then it bites me as it runs away facing the other way
and the ptera above me hits me from 8 meters high
and then the stego runs over and chases me
cyan flame
Yeah, there's some weird things going on with deino, and ptera I think has something weird too.
cyan flame
But as deino you should not be on land, so there is that too.
devout sun
yes
manic flint
The high hurtbox is probably so stego tail swing connects properly
cyan flame
It is however a issue that the rivers aren't always deep enough and wide enough to provide a proper escape method
cyan flame
Should be much "thinner" crossings if anything
devout sun
but it's REALLY bad
cyan flame
So you could nab someone trying to cross and just turn around and drag em down perhaps
devout sun
like I am all the way underwater and the stego, from the shore mind you, hits a headshot
boom 25% of my health gone because I accidentally game within 20 meters of an aggressive stego
cyan flame
Just make stego swing go lower instead
devout sun
^
cyan flame
So it can also hit the things trying to ankle ride it :p
devout sun
on that note
8 ton 40 foot murder monster can't 1v1 a stego
but a fresh spawn juvie utah can
and it's hilarious
cyan flame
I'm sure the stego that dies because of things like that is equally entertained :p I know how fun it was with the tailbox and carnos after all
devout sun
I actually think that was kinda weird
yeah it's stupid that a carno could do that
but also, they fixed it wrong
cyan flame
I'm just waiting to see if a ptera can actually kill a stego by nipping the plates
devout sun
they just removed the hitbox on the tail
what I wanted was it to do damage to bite the thagomizors
now it feels like a bug
cyan flame
Well, removing damage makes sense, the thagomizer is almost nothing to really bite into
cyan flame
But thorns damage would have been good too, especially since I think kentro should have that
So it would work as a test run on stego as well
devout sun
honestly on the Deino side of deino VS stego, it feels like legacy
you can barely hit the stego
and it hits you without even colliding with you
it's not just up too
stego can poke a deino from the side
at least a meter or 2 away
like I sit still as adeino next to an angry stego, knowing I'm out of range
and then it pulls some legacy hitbox BS and hits a headshot anyway
Then I turn to bite the middle of the tail
don't get a hit
turn my head out to dodge the next attack
and then get hit anyway
devout sun
Nothing I have said so far is from mind either
I did experience all of these things
in like 2 hours
my poor deino couldn't heal past 80% health lmao
so much scars
cyan flame
Ouch!
But yeah, you have my opinion on the feedback. Actual issues should be fixed, but I think that for now, the damage is more or less fine. Maybe decrease tail multiplier too, to tailtip level instead of just tail.
devout sun
mhm
of course none of that was including a certain trick I picked up
which lets you bite around 3 times faster than usual
with timing of alt and normal bites
which makes it so I think I can actually facetank a stego
's tail*
cyan flame
Maybe if the stego does not use it's fast jab. But otherwise I'd imagine it would still hurt. I know that you can use alt first and then normal bite, but that's about it.
tawny juniper
@weak ermine why would utah carry something with it's arms?
devout sun
anyway playing deino sucks
feels bad mad
going through the shallow river is aids regardless
cyan flame
Alternating bites huh, interesting. Not sure if that's intended or not :p
devout sun
but the stegos learned over the last couple of days
to camp it
and since you can't swim away
they just kill you
and camp the body
and kill the next
and a pair of stegos just sits at Y all the time
tawny juniper
Deino is not strong enough against stegos
cyan flame
Yeah, that's stupid. Stegos should not be camping rivers for deinos :p But can't you just rush through maybe? Or are they lined up in a gauntlet style?
tawny juniper
But deino is not at its maximum power atm
devout sun
you cant swim
in that river
at all
for like a kilometer is what it feels like
legit 45 minutes of walking to get all the way past
tawny juniper
It's nerfed so that it doesn't dominate the current game build, will get a buff after a while
cyan flame
Ah, it's a matter of distance. Yeah that would suck. See earlier comment about map changes then :p
devout sun
Stego is like legacy rex
without speed
it deletes big things
dominates really
unless your tiny enough to weave around it
cyan flame
But deino is not at its maximum power atm
Neither deino nor stego really is. Both will hopefully get proper buffs in the future when the rest of the big things come in and we have more small and mid tiers for everyone to interact with.
cyan flame
I can assure you, stego has it's moments too :p
devout sun
I mean I can't expect that much
but don't worry
all that missing power will go to the rex favoritism jar for now
cyan flame
It might seem really good vs deino, but utahs absolutely fuck it, and carnos probably does too. We don't one shot carno on head either, despite huge thagomizer :p
devout sun
I mean
that carno isn't gonna be having a good time
I've you've played the carno side of it
cyan flame
Nor is the utah after a deino bite
devout sun
It literally has 1 or 3 health left
the utah should be gone
like literally pulverized
cyan flame
So should the carno
devout sun
sent to the shadow realm
cyan flame
But it's not
cyan flame
Utah does die to stego headshot, but carno should as well, really, it should die on a bodyshot
A carno would not live a stego thagomizer to it's body, maybe take a few steps away, but that's about it
cyan flame
But that wouldn't be balanced for now, so here we are :p
devout sun
It's 500 N in game now
IRL it was 18,000 at minimum
some estimates at almost 100,000
even though that's probably pushing it a little
wary zenith
Tenonton Kick spam stun, bugged or was it intended to be super op?
cyan flame
But it's an ingame value, and not representative of actual N/irl force
cyan flame
Fair enough :p
devout sun
kinda same as giga speed in legacy
cyan flame
They really should change it from N to just.. damage
devout sun
if giga ran at IRL speed
cyan flame
So people stop being confused about it
devout sun
it would be as fast as utah ambush in legacy
I think deino is in the same catagory as that where like
it's just "too good" for the isle
and needs to be nerfed from IRL to the ground to be on the same level as other things
cyan flame
Yeah
Same goes for things that need buffs
Stego being a prime example, it wasn't that big or though irl, because well, did not have to deal with rex unlike trike or anky, but since it does in this game, it will have to be adjusted for that somehow.
cyan flame
Also our utah is nowhere near an actual utah, it's a JP raptor that calls itself utahraptor :p
cyan flame
Nah, rexes just powerwalked I think, more or less
devout sun
yep
cyan flame
On the other hand, rexes were also OP as can be apparently
cyan flame
Pretty much good at everything, NV, scent, and so on
devout sun
yeah
I made a suggestion a while ago on rex balancing
that focuses on realism
and I think it actually would work
and be balanced
cyan flame
So if we had a realistic rex, everything else would just.. die, one way or the other. Except maybe trike and anky and things that actually did handle rexes for real.
devout sun
nah
here look
I'll pull of that suggestion
which is basically realistic rex
but I think it would be fun rewarding and balanced
hoary snow
cyan flame
Oop :p
devout sun
attempt 2
A more realistic balancing of Rex would be cool. Let me explain myself..
Damage: With the addition of location damage, Rex's bite could be realized much better. A good bite to the hip may still cause injury to the leg, but the main point is the Rex's bone breaking bite in other places, especially the head. If a Rex lands a solid bite on the head of pretty much anything in the game, it's a one-shot kill, or severly hurt bigger things. It's skull has been destroyed, and it is quite dead.
Speed: Rex shouldn't have much of it. Rex IRL was chonk, and running at speed was simply unsafe for it. Rex's sprint should be quite slow, and using it's long legs it should have a decent trot to make up for it. This will balance out the insane damage capability of the Rex's bite making it so that if you see a Rex coming, you can escape.
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Sniff: The way Rex would kill things. Instead of this really strange rush down stuff it does in legacy, Rexes would abuse their sense of smell to know exactly when and how to strike at something that didn't see it coming. With a decently quiet crouching, Rexes would get up close, like the edge of a treeline, and played correctly could kill things instantly that never knew you were there. If you are unable to score a kill yourself, perhaps a vigilant herd is impossible to sneak up on, you can use your smell to find food from insane distances - even if you're not fast - your size and strength would easily allow you to take over a body and defend it.
Rex may not chase you down and break your leg by booping the tip of your tail anymore, but it wouldn't be weak. It's size and strength, even without the speed, would make it a challenge to fight. You won't actively chase things, but something would have to have balls to mess with you. For people who liked playing Rex because you could solo kill everything in the game, go ahead. But you would have to play smart and play right. People seem to like Rex being able to run and spam bite to win, so I wonder how this suggestion will go...
You may have noticed how scared I was to diss rex
because this is what happens when you diss rex
cyan flame
Endurance rex instead of ambusher, yeah I'd be fine with that! And locational fractures should absolutely be a thing, for everything really. Only thing to disagree with, one shots. I get it, but nothing should just die to something else if it's within near growth time and all that. That's neither fun nor balance. Otherwise, looks good to me.
devout sun
That was what people said in discussion after I posted it
I don't see any other way of doing it
that wouldn't be pushing stupid
like even as a deino
I know that crocs have stupid strong jaws
so when I bite that carno's face off with a well timed turn and bite, and then bite it's tail as it runs away
the fact that it RUNS AWAY and sits down for 5 minutes
and then comes back to attack again
instead of being sent to the lord
is frustrating
because a crocodile of that size
would turn a carno's head into plasma with a bite placed like that
and they made deino feel really heavy and strong
but as soon as you attack something bigger than a utah
you feel weak
and nerfed
cyan flame
If it wasn't for what they want deino to do, it most likely would be as powerful as stego in raw damage.
cyan flame
Hence why I think focusing on the more defensive aspects might be easier, you'll not feel powerful offensively wise perhaps, but it might make you feel a bit more like "yeah, what are you going to do to me?" on the defense.
I don't think deino will fight rexes no :p
cyan flame
Maybe if the rex goes swimming!
cyan flame
Only problem I see is how to make it a good mechanic with a way out for what is being grabbed
devout sun
I've heard a lot of cool idea for how grabbing should work
tawny juniper
only issue with that is that, if rex is forced to be that scared of deino. Wtf is going to have a chance against it
cyan flame
Oh a rex should be scared of going swimming.
karmic bane
@karmic bane You need to refresh the game, and click 'disable empty' servers from the server menu. ; )
@barren zephyr thank you very much 👍
tawny juniper
And rivers will have to get huge to be able compensate for that
cyan flame
Really, anything not semiaquatic should not want to go into deep water, much less go for a swim.
devout sun
Oh a rex should be scared of going swimming.
yes
tawny juniper
Really, anything not semiaquatic should not want to go into deep water, much les...
Other then travel purposes, yes.
devout sun
Really, anything not semiaquatic should not want to go into deep water, much les...
especially with 40 foot murder monsters in it
cyan flame
It just has to be a mechanic that allows for escape, so it's not a one shot on things that grew as long as you did or longer.
devout sun
but yeah, growing a carno just to get clapped by a deino
and not even have the chance to hit it once
I haven't experienced it but
feels bad man
cyan flame
It's fine that the deino one shots what it can grab right now, since they grow much faster and all that. But if it could pull the same on a stego, that would hurt.
devout sun
^
cyan flame
And yeah, it's not ideal even against smaller things honestly, but at least less punishing.
devout sun
I agree with the devs here
stego should be doing the pulling
BUT
it shouldnt be able to just spam stab the deino in the fac
with no regard for health since it barely looses it
it should be fighting for it's life
since I'm pretty sure the Deino weighs more
and sure has hell hits harder
cyan flame
I think the hitboxes are the biggest issue there
Since the deino does do plenty of damage to a stego, at least enough to make it wary, if the hits land properly
devout sun
if a stego is drinking
and a deino lunges it
it shouldn't be "oh I'm stunned for a second, time to turn around and delete this dumb thing"
cyan flame
You 5-6 shot a stego on it's head as it stands, and I think it's about the same for the stego in return, so it's more or less even I think.
devout sun
it should be a fight for survival, if your head hasn't already been bitten clean off
pale bloom
So much hate on Legacy Rex when it wasn't that good Lol
devout sun
So much hate on Legacy Rex when it wasn't that good Lol
Hey it was stupid honestly
ANYTHING gets hit by it
and it's leg breaks
it's dead
except cama, which is a glitch-fest anyway
pale bloom
You gonna say the same thing everyone says " It had the stupid bonebreak and blablabla" dude has you thought once what would be Rex without it?
pale bloom
ANYTHING gets hit by it
Don't get hit by it then :D
devout sun
it runs
first off, rex shouldnt run
second off
it runs fast
REALLY fast
for it's size
I giganotosaurus, the most mobile and lightweight of the apexes
can't get away
while this chonker
with more health, more damage
valid zephyr
deino survival is meant to be hell. right now you are lucky or you get eaten. en...
There is a difference between skill based hell and just luck. Deino should be the former, and not the latter.
You should always have potential options to play if you're good enough, and currently deino doesn't have that. Just a magical see everything sonar, and if you're spotted you're dead. That's it.
Rex, trike, etc have the option of doing things like hiding.
This magic sonar won't only be an issue for juvie deino. It will also make creatures like minmi unplayable. A small, slow snack walking around on the riverbed will just be autodetected and snapped up by the faster and stronger deino. No counterplay.
Growing a deino is easy. You just sit in a bush and browse the internet, remembering to eat every 20 mins. If that's you're idea of good gameplay, rather than encouraging smaller deinos to actually play the game, then I'm not sure what you're enjoying about this game.
pale bloom
Dude Rex Stam pool sucks and doesn't regen Stam while trotting, NEEDS to be fast
pale bloom
It's not bad but neither OP
devout sun
of sprinting at supersonic speed
with something that has more health, damage, health heal, and the ability to stop you from ever running away from it
and you can't just turn and fight it
since it facetanks you
too
Rex full stam burn makes more distance than you think
way more distance than it should
and way faster than it should
at least for the power it holds everyhwere else
pale bloom
I mean a Dino who can die to skilled Utahs, Dilos, Allos in a 1vs1 can't be OP like people says, and it's really easy to avoid getting away from Rex ambush if you spot it on time
pale bloom
and you can't just turn and fight it
I did that all the time when I had the chance
devout sun
yeah and it should never have worked
cyan flame
@devout sun To be fair, rex in legacy is one of the most balanced critters in survival.
Now if you want to see something unbalanced, look no further than giga.
devout sun
I agree that giga was REALLY good
pale bloom
We should drop the whole legacy Rex thing it doesn't matter now
devout sun
but what do you do to it
it's the most mobile apex, and runs the slowest, so you dare not nerf the speed even more
it's already 4 times slower than IRL
bite force could get a bit of a nerf
bleed is really good
maybe thats a nerf
pale bloom
You can Trot stuff down with Giga
white rune
it's already 4 times slower than IRL
What's IRL ?
devout sun
in real life
devout sun
You can Trot stuff down with Giga
makes sense though does it not?
It's the only apex carnivore that is built for movement
and has longer legs than a rex
pale bloom
Yes, but that's how the Dino works
devout sun
it would be stupid if it had a bad trot
white rune
Mega theropods were trotters
pale bloom
But you're spitting stuff at the Rex when you don't really know the real purpose/method of hunting of the Dino on Legacy
white rune
Personally i'm for powerwalking Rex and ambush Giga
devout sun
rex of ALL things shouldn't be a rush down kinda hunter
my problem isn't the balancing, it's the dino itself
white rune
Change the roles of both
cyan flame
Rex in legacy, just like deino in Evrima, is balanced around a game purpose, not realism. We need to keep that in mind.
devout sun
the balancing is alright
pale bloom
rex of ALL things shouldn't be a rush down kinda hunter
It isn't, it's an ambusher and only works fine that way
cyan flame
Now I'm all for what Bababoy just said, but at the end, the devs decide what they want to see the critters do.
devout sun
rex shouldn't run
cyan flame
Also, you can't compare survival to sandbox roster, they're not balanced for each other. One is survival, the other old progression stuff.
cyan flame
@pale bloom Progression rex wasn't an ambusher, it trotted shit down. Giga was the faster one.
tawny juniper
and has longer legs than a rex
Isn't rex faster
cyan flame
So it's been like that once upon a time
pale bloom
<@!435451875387506690> Progression rex wasn't an ambusher, it trotted shit down....
THAT was bullshit XD
white rune
Now I'm all for what Bababoy just said, but at the end, the devs decide what the...
It mostly is Watt's idea. I just really like it and I see that some QA's are for that such as Nova so 🤞
tawny juniper
I mean run
devout sun
Yes it's much faster
much much much faster than something of that size and build could possible run
am I not the only one that sees how stupid the rex run looks?
it runs like a sub rex
which is THAT MUCH smaller
pale bloom
Both dinos ambush are almost equally fast, the difference it's the sprint
devout sun
not true
pale bloom
But if you're at the good distance gap it would never catch you
cyan flame
@pale bloom How so? It worked just fine, did it not? :p
devout sun
I know there's a distance gap with rex and giga
I actually can eyeball it in-game
but rex still catches giga
if rex burns all it's stam even AFTER that gap
it will still catch the giga
and since the giga cant run, the rex doesnt need that stam, not really
how much skill
does it take for a rex to kill a giga
it has to run at the giga, and spam bite
unless the giga knows what to do
pale bloom
rex ambush is faster than lots of midtiers
And that's balanced, if you're close enought that the Rex catches you means you where too close and you got ambushed
devout sun
I'm not saying it's unbalanced
I'm saying it's wrong
rex shouldn't keep up with a giga
not like that
pale bloom
if rex burns all it's stam even AFTER that gap
Burning all the Stam with the Rex it's a death sentence do you know that?
pale bloom
You're risking your death to something you don't really know it gonna happen
pale bloom
I don't know I've never died to ambushing Rexes as Giga or proper mid tier. I always end up mocking at them and usually killing them with a single mid tier
If you spot a Rex on time and you know the gaps, the Rex will have to be smart to get you, and most Rex players aren't smart sadly
scarlet crystal
It is kinda stupid that a rex can keep up with a giga
devout sun
^
devout sun
But here is why I think giga is balanced
yeah as an adult it's the perfect survival dino
but getting to adult
compared to rex at least
that's hell
devout sun
compared to rex
cyan flame
Get free food in form of ai, get water every now and then, you're set
devout sun
giga sucks until full adult really
cyan flame
If you actually had to play the game, you'd have a point
devout sun
sub giga has good stats at full sub
but if you don't want to fight something
have fun trying to run
because guess what, they killed sub giga's speed too
not just adult
scarlet crystal
Mind you, none of this matters really given how it's not physically possible to get into the game atm because having more servers open at once is just simply unheard of.
pale bloom
Sub Giga might be slow but has great sprint turn
devout sun
sub rex is better
pale bloom
You can literally dodge Rexes with that
devout sun
better sprint turn
better speed
better ambush duration
better health heal
better bleed heal
better bleed resistance
scarlet crystal
Rex is just a littttttle bit broken, and not even in a realistic way.
devout sun
everything but flat out health
pale bloom
Rex is just a littttttle bit broken, and not even in a realistic way.
I strongly disagree
devout sun
Rex is ALWAYS the best thing in it's tier to fight with
scarlet crystal
Your name is turok T-REX I'm not in the slightest surprised by that.
devout sun
sub rex is the best midtier
juvie rex is the most survivable juvie
it's actually the only fast one
compared to juvie giga, which is useless
cyan flame
Never the less Gray, rex is one of the better balanced things in legacy as it stands
pale bloom
Your name is turok T-REX I'm not in the slightest surprised by that.
Are you really judging people IDs? Does that matter?
dry osprey
Juvie Carno: Am I a joke to you?
cyan flame
And yes, rex does have a reasonably good growth
devout sun
Juvie carno is fine too
but juvie REX of all things
being that good
the fact that rex has no downsides until adult
cyan flame
But that's not really relevant, all that means is that it's one of the few, except jvuvie carno as you just said, that has a growth stage that's somewhat playables
cyan flame
It's not good Viper, it's just..less bad really :p
It's more that every other juvie sucks entirely so
pale bloom
How the fuck juvie Rex it's good lmao
devout sun
it's fast
cyan flame
But your point is made moot with how the survival works with ai :p
devout sun
really fast
scarlet crystal
Because it's better than most other Juvies by a landslide
pale bloom
Turns like a fucking Carno
scarlet crystal
devout sun
the goal of a juvie isn't combat
the goal is to stay alive until your big
juvie rex is the best juvie for doing that
besides maybe juvie carno
pale bloom
the goal is to stay alive until your big
Then any juvie its good
pale bloom
Just sit in a bush and grow
devout sun
listen I know growing isn't hard
scarlet crystal
devout sun
but do you at least SEE the point I'm making
scarlet crystal
That checks
devout sun
rex is balanced to be the best for it's tier's goal
at all times
except MAYBE adult
where if your not careful, small fast things can give you a hard time
cyan flame
@devout sun Yes, I do get the point! :p
devout sun
I don't think turok does
devout sun
I think you can read it gray
scarlet crystal
no no it could be someone else you're talking about
devout sun
I hope 
scarlet crystal
i need to know which turok this is
pale bloom
I don't think turok does
I do, but feels like you're spitting nonsense to the Rex because you died to them lots of times
gritty helm
sir there is literally only one turok lmao
cyan flame
@scarlet crystal You're being a bit silly you know ^^
pale bloom
can you say his full name please
I'll ask again does that matter? Good you're so toxic
dry osprey
Before I hop in, what was the original argument because I’m reading through the convo and I’m not seeing how this effects Evirma?
devout sun
I do, but feels like you're spitting nonsense to the Rex because you died to the...
Thankfully it's not nonsense, I'm not wrong to say that rex is the best juvie for growing, best sub for living, best adult for deleting other apexes.
Yeah yeah utah and dilo can kill you if they are good
but everything else
pale bloom
Thankfully it's not nonsense, I'm not wrong to say that rex is the best juvie fo...
You're just saying Rex is the best Dino overall
devout sun
mhm
pale bloom
While I agree it's good, a Dino I've killed on 1vs1 scenarios and bullied them with my midtiers can't be OP or the best Apex
acoustic gate
hey guys! im having trouble getting onto a server. it just keeps taking me back to the main screen. any suggestions?
scarlet crystal
Just trying to explain to TurokT-REX that the T-REX is a bit OP.
paper oriole
Personally in apex matches aside from rex vs giga, giga is more broken
scarlet crystal
Hey Norse, the answer is a bit crap, but it's to wait until people are asleep at like 4am
cyan flame
Thankfully it's not nonsense, I'm not wrong to say that rex is the best juvie fo...
Honestly, giga can fight the rex, and trike can too, but yes the rex is designed to be the brawler. But it's a survival game, not a fighting game, so that's how we judge things.
cyan flame
Just trying to explain to TurokT-REX that the T-REX is a bit OP.
No, the rex is not OP, see giga instead for that.
devout sun
Rex kills
every
single
apex
except I guess shant
trust me I have tested it all
pale bloom
except I guess shant
Good Rex bodies Shant
devout sun
Giga on the other hand
cyan flame
Again, can't use sandbox ones
dry osprey
hey guys! im having trouble getting onto a server. it just keeps taking me back ...
Its because the servers fill up but doesn’t visibly show it(visual glitch). Best you can do is keep trying, personally I hop on the EU servers as they usually have spots
pale bloom
But so does Gigas
devout sun
giga only kill shant and cama
paper oriole
Giga solos cama and trike effortlessly in a 1v1 and can trot most mid tiers across the map
cyan flame
Does it generally win over trike or giga, yes, can giga or trike fight back, yes.
cyan flame
Giga can also kill trike, possibly easier than rex, and can kill everything else
devout sun
apex-wise at least
pale bloom
Trike can't fight a Giga basically the Giga goes away by just trotting
pale bloom
But Trike sucks ass in legacy
cyan flame
So basically, in survival, the only thing giga fears is rex
barren zephyr
anyone know when na8 is coming back
cyan flame
Whereas rex has more things to fear
devout sun
rex fears utah and dilo
soft vale
a good giga or trike could kill a rex, but if the players are evenly matched then the rex always has a massive advantage. same goes for players who dont know what theyre doing at all
cyan flame
And even with it fearing rexes, it can escape them
pale bloom
rex fears utah and dilo
And Ceras and Allos
devout sun
ceras get clapped by drag bite
allos get clapped by break check
everything else gets clapped by hitbox
or a combination of the other things
cyan flame
Well that goes for trike and giga too :p
soft vale
pachys can also ride rexes but theyre herbies
cyan flame
Hitboxes do as they want at times
devout sun
giga is slightly better
dry osprey
How does an apex fear allo in legacy? They slide like theyre on ice
cyan flame
Anyway.. we're now severely off topic, from proper feedback..
pale bloom
ceras get clapped by drag bite
Who the hell does brackecheck on survival?
devout sun
Who the hell does brackecheck on survival?
good players
dry osprey
One break check will always merk an allo
devout sun
also giga has to fear utah and dilo too
both can kill a giga
and in survival it's easier than ever to get around
devout sun
those rexes didn't know what they were doing
pale bloom
Of course
soft vale
utah can also technically ride trike but its harder
dry osprey
Its impossible to ride a rex as an allo if the rex has half a braincell. All it has to do is stop
devout sun
turok don't play that card man
pale bloom
Its impossible to ride a rex as an allo if the rex has half a braincell. All it ...
No it's not
cyan flame
also giga has to fear utah and dilo too
With the alt turn giga has? No, it does not need to fear them at all.
devout sun
rex alt turn is really good too, so if you wanna use alt turn as an argument, it goes for rex as well
cyan flame
You spin stupidly fast, unlike rex
devout sun
rex alt turn isn't as bad as it was
cyan flame
No, rex alt turn is actually pretty crap
soft vale
rex alt turn is basically the same speed as utah alt
cyan flame
Unless things have changed since these last patches
pale bloom
I'm not gonna count alt-turn, never played on those servers
dry osprey
Yes, it is. If the rex increases speed and the allo increases speed, it just needs to stop and the allo slides through it. If its purposely lagging behind to prevent the slide throughh, it puts it directly in left hit
devout sun
fast enough that moving your hitbox to hit something is so easy
alt turn destroys riders when you use it with hitboxes
cyan flame
I'm not gonna count alt-turn, never played on those servers
Well then you're not counting the actual balance
dry osprey
Alt-turn was never a feature meant to be able to be turned off
soft vale
i dont play alt servers either, the way its set up in legacy is janky
devout sun
^
pale bloom
Yes, it is. If the rex increases speed and the allo increases speed, it just nee...
If you go for tailbites you can stop in time and not slide in
cyan flame
What's janky about it?
soft vale
have you seen it
dry osprey
If youre on the tail, you can still get left drag bit
devout sun
^
soft vale
have you looked at the alt turn
pale bloom
Omg I actually should show videos because it's literally not worth the explanation
soft vale
a good allo can fight rexes, but again rexes have a massive advantage in that matchup
pale bloom
Nobody in survival knows how to drag or brakecheck, hell they don't event know how to hunt
dry osprey
Balance isnt based on a bad player vs good player, its based on both players having some idea of what theyre doing
Your videos mean shit in form of balance
devout sun
^
soft vale
yeah, so if both players are at the same skill level, allo loses
devout sun
yuppie yup
your allo might be godlike but if you and the rex never mess up
you wouldn't have got there in the first place
dry osprey
You can kill Dieno as a juvie utah if t doesnt alt bite
devout sun
Why not
dry osprey
That doesn’t mean Dienos greatest weakness is baby utah
devout sun
I alt bit with deino a bunch
and kinda tracked the base of the tail in my head
it barely moves
I feel like it's a safe zone
I've also heard deino collisions are small
dry osprey
Because juvie utah can go inside your body as of right now with the broken hitbox
pale bloom
Why the fuck im I even debating this, legacy sucks for me now 🤣
dry osprey
Alt bite for turning yourself to hit the baby utah
devout sun
8 ton 40 foot murder monster can't 1v1 a stego with an IRL biteforce of 18-50k N bite force
but the juvie utah can
I find that hilarious
dry osprey
Dieno shouldnt be 1v1ing stego, but it shouldnt be curb stomped by them either
Whats some kind of buns is the fact carno, the creature designed to run down small prey and eat small prey, does more raw damage than dieno
icy lion
Whats some kind of buns is the fact carno, the creature designed to run down sma...
no, it doesnt
deinos bite does 500, carnos does 350
dry osprey
It takes 8 headshots to kill a stego as a carno, and 10 for a dieno
icy lion
It takes 8 headshots to kill a stego as a carno, and 10 for a dieno
objectively false lol
takes 4 if you dont hit the neck/legs/body
dry osprey
Its not, you can go up and count them lmao
Dienos bite slides through currently
Making that utterly useless
devout sun
Deino is 5-6 headshots on stego right?
icy lion
yes exactly, which is a problem with the hitbox and not the damage
icy lion
before you say it bite force has no correlation to irl numbers
icy lion
in my opinion the Newton label in game is misleading and should be removed
devout sun
I think I agree
dry osprey
I mean, even counting the hitbox issue as of right now, you can still do much more damage as a carno than a dieno
icy lion
part of the reason deinos bite is lower in damage than what people were hoping/expecting is to encourage it to use the lunge
which will, essentially, one shot everything except for full grown stegos
devout sun
how much does full stego weigh?
icy lion
6 tons
devout sun
ah
icy lion
the limit is half deinos weight, which is 4
devout sun
yeah
icy lion
so you can grab reasonably large stegos, but not adults
devout sun
Of course I think we can all agree that matchup is in too much stego's favor anyway
I think it's actually really stupid how easy it is for stegos to demolish entire groups of deinos
I would have to test, but I'm pretty sure deino facetanks stego
using the alt bite trick
can anyone confirm?
icy lion
im not sure
devout sun
I tried it once but another stego came out of the bushes and stopped me
it looked like it was having a bad time though
icy lion
using the alt bite you can easily cause the swing to hit your tail instead though, which takes much less damage
so i imagine its a possibility
that said, deino is meant to be an ambush predator
silver zephyr
I think its fine for stego to have a good advantage in the matchup but not to the point where stegos are going spearfishing 
wide locust
deino can't face tank a stego, no one can. But a deino can kill a stego while swimming acrossed water
icy lion
its not meant to facetank something nearly its own size with massive spikes on its tail lol
i do believe stego tail has some hitbox issues
maybe not issues, per se
just oversights
cyan flame
Such as?
icy lion
supposedly the tail hitbox extends out of the tail, not lengthwise but down
so a stego with its tail across the surface of the water can hit something just below the water
cyan flame
Fair, but I think that was needed to get rid of things just sitting at the base of a stego tail and nibbling away?
icy lion
yup, which is why i considered it more of an oversight
hopefully trample damage is eventually added
since then the tail might not need the extended range
cyan flame
True!
devout sun
supposedly the tail hitbox extends out of the tail, not lengthwise but down
I think that's Deino
Carno andutah can vibe right outside the stego's model during the attack no problem
but the Deino, gets hit by everything so easily
Deino's hurtbox is about 3 times taller than the model
a little wider
and a little longer
icy lion
well thats the thing with the height
it isnt
its just that the stegos hitbox goes a bit below the tail
rustic mirage
devout sun
Ptera too then?
pteras hit deinos from way out of reach
like the beak never collides with me
icy lion
a lot of people have mentioned pteras bite being weird
its something well have to look into
could also be a hitbox issue
devout sun
I'm thinking it's deino
but it might be everything else then
but again, Stego hits a deino that's next to it
not even under it
but I've been hit beside the tail while it swings
while a carno for example can vibe there just fine
I think it's that the stego hits down, ptera hits down, and deino is too wide
probably
icy lion
hmmm
icy lion
yea thats something thatll need to be looked into/tested more thoroughly
devout sun
I hope so
cyan flame
Yeah, ptera might be capable of that flying and hitting down beneath it a bit too far perhaps
devout sun
right now it's fking frustrating to be running away from the mega aggro stego pair that's suppressing any deino activity for a mile around
and then I get away
only to get headshot twice more for an extra 40% health
I don't have recordings but seriously
it is literally as bad as I'm making it sound
sometimes
tawny juniper
velvet sundial
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/833012360612413500 The isle is not really optimized for controllers. Camera turn slows down under 30 fps and mouse sensitivity affects stick sensitivity. Both should be consistent, have their own sensitivity control and a direction swap for X and Y
icy lion
@wind comet already planned https://trello.com/c/6khzZqPS/26-diet-system
wind comet
Oh pog
molten tulip
One I've liked is in order to unlock perks you have to do stuff as a juvi
Like if you want a swimming perk or something as a juvi you have to catch a fish
Just for example
loud oak
not able to play after update, ping ranging from 700 - 3000ms.
static niche
That’s probably on your side.
@terse mulch They’ve already talked about that issue.
topaz quest
Hello
nimble shard
ah, thanks.
mystic acorn
@devout sun theres this thing for dieno called alt bite it makes ur bite harder and if something is behind u, u can attack it behind u. Alt bite has also no stam cost and bites faster while having a damage boost. the bite is fine the way it is.
devout sun
I've played Deino for 18 hours now I know that
It doesn't have a damage boost, it still can't one shot utahs
I've hit 3 with it
I actually hit one twice
I've used to eat a ptera and increase my bite speed
as well as bait carnos to attack me
Again, it doesn't one shot utahs
that's bull, and needs to be changed
especially for a crocodile of all things, which should have a high biteforce
of course it can't be realistic, then you would have a bite force of 20k N and that's not good for balancing
but 650, 700, that's something I think anyone could live with
one shot utah, won't drastically change all it's matchups
terse mulch
@static niche have been trying fot literaly 3 days nothin NEVER been able to join a off. server
elder rivet
utah's health is extremely big for something of that size
devout sun
I'm not familiar with it's health
elder rivet
it's 1000
it can tank 3 hits from a carno, and one hit from a stego, and 1 hit from a deino
devout sun
It dies in 1 hit from steg
anywhere but tail tip
Deino might just have such a wide hitbox that if the utah turns away at all, it's always a tail bite
regardless, it shouldn't be alive
devout sun
<@!474227371994644490> theres this thing for dieno called alt bite it makes ur b...
Either way I know, and I still stand by my point. The alt bite does not increase damage, and the increased bite speed means nothing if your fighting a utah, you bite it, and don't kill it. It's not gonna stick around before you get another bite in anyway. And since you don't 2 shot carnos, it doesn't matter for them either, they also live.
urban bear
@velvet sundial The isle doesnt need a new skybox from millions of years ago, the game takes place in the present
devout sun
I think of all things, running into a deino's mouth should be punishing
scarlet crystal
Either way I know, and I still stand by my point. The alt bite does not increase...
He's right, you know.
mystic acorn
Either way I know, and I still stand by my point. The alt bite does not increase...
it does increase damage and u can turn around on a dime with alt bite
me and my freind killed deinos with less bites with alt bite
devout sun
I used it in conjunction with normal bite
both of which are unable to 1sk utahs
and the way I kill deinos is via alternation
mystic acorn
I do agree it should 1 shot utahs tho
devout sun
you bite the fastest by using ALT bite and then normal bite
and then repeat
it isn't more damaging because it does more damage, it's cause it's faster
of course you kill Deinos faster with it, it bites faster
valid zephyr
@velvet sundial the isle is set in modern day, with the animals having been created by humans. Humans are even planned playables. A modern skybox fits the lore.
mystic acorn
of course you kill Deinos faster with it, it bites faster
it took less bites to kill one is what i said
devout sun
location inconsistency perhaps?
mystic acorn
it was like me and my friends size around that at least
devout sun
or size inconsistancy
little stat differences might make a difference between 1 health after 5 bites and dead after 5 bites
mystic acorn
I also caught a pteranadon out of the air just now he was low and too my side and I used alt bite and I caught him
alt bite helps
alot
quiet spade
I hate how all the servers are full
mystic acorn
I hate how all the servers are full
that is indeed an f
quiet spade
Been trying to get on for an hour and a half
velvet sundial
<@634121726518755369> the isle is set in modern day, with the animals having bee...
@urban bear @valid zephyr I've already seen today's sky a thousand times. Need different and also servers without humans
swift dew
<@!588451973502599179> <@!244886798701035530> I've already seen today's sky a th...
so your saying you want a different skybox because you have already seen todays sky?
velvet sundial
Nah, maybe a different skybox in a server without humans to simulate the past. Seeing todays sky is also not bad
urban bear
<@!588451973502599179> <@!244886798701035530> I've already seen today's sky a th...
the map still has human structures , regardless the isle takes place in modern day, the game isn't intended to be scientifically accurate.
opal kestrel
Have people been having frame rate issues recently. The game was running really smoothly earlier this week and now is dropping frames
elder rivet
what's even the difference between the sky during dinosaur age and the current night sky
paper oriole
Hey norm ya wanna travel back in time and tell us what the sky should look like?
velvet sundial
@elder rivet Because the stars move through the milky way, the night sky was much different in the dinosaur age. But I think the isle goes about experience not wether or not things are scientifically accurate. A different sky is just a reference to the mesozoic
paper oriole
Ptera can NOT carry bodies with those pathetic ass feet
An attack from them would also be pretty useless
wild pike
ok
barren zephyr
@velvet sundial
The Isle is set in the timezone of a modern/post-modern society
so the space skybox will look similar to what we'd see at night here today
real pendant
Have people been having frame rate issues recently. The game was running really ...
yeah, frames have been absolutely shite for me too
barren zephyr
@wind geyser
Are you able to report location? (in bug report)
wind geyser
<@!605267234298003467>
Are you able to report location? (in bug report)
if i can get back in, i can try to provide coordinates via screenshot, but that's a long shot with current server population
barren zephyr
if i can get back in, i can try to provide coordinates via screenshot, but that'...
all good
terse mulch
think it realy should have que function
paper oriole
Titanoboa strangling an adult rex
Why would it even risk trying that, it can't eat a rex
barren zephyr
Abandon hope ye who enter here
is it alright if you put this in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 Thank you! 🙂
sharp hawk
I don't know where to ask this question but what to do if i am stuck on top of a rock as ptera? A friend of mine is. Can he just sit there and wait or can an admin come and get him free? I can't land there cuz i would get stuck too
paper oriole
Your friend is probably gonna die
sharp hawk
I know he is, but is there a way to speed it up? Or is it possible to get help is what i mean
I can't kill him there because i would get stuck lol
paper oriole
Try abusing ptera hitbox to peck him to death from a meter or two away
sharp hawk
Alright, i'll try
barren zephyr
I don't know where to ask this question but what to do if i am stuck on top of a...
Admins have no power in the Quality Assurance branch
sharp hawk
Admins have no power in the Quality Assurance branch
Alright, thanks!
lime gulch
gloomy pawn
open another br6 plz
gloomy pawn
open br6 we need enter
leaden locust
@barren zephyr ya