sail is fucked neck is fucked and the chest is fucked.
#general-feedback-discussion
vast heart
Deinocheirus with malnutrition problems
outer condor
What the fuck did they do to cheirus
vast heart
Theri with back and hip problems
vast wolf
that posture on that theri is so forced.
outer condor
^
vast wolf
at least we can marvel at the beautiful ankylodocus concept.
cobalt parcel
can someone please do an edit for alberto's head?
mellow maple
Herrerasaurus might also elude to lips as well
civic carbon
wdym edit @cobalt parcel
silver dagger
The new giga, does it have lips?
vast wolf
yeah herera looks like it has lips.
mellow maple
Likely as well
cobalt parcel
like, it's head looks bashed in and deformed
mellow maple
Sooo lips aren't all out of place in this game.
In fact, they'd make for a decent toggle option
civic carbon
it's basically legacy's head
vast wolf
civic carbon
if you're talking about the ridges that lead up into the horns
allo has the same things
vast wolf
let me get the one from the devblog
cobalt parcel
something about alberto's head is just really off to me
cobalt parcel
old alberto concept
vast heart
Please dont bring that thing here mrgharial
arctic nimbus
dented anky 🤢
civic carbon
that's not the alberto concept lol
vast heart
That anky makes my pfp a mood
vast wolf
unbonked anky is the best.
civic carbon
the new concept vs the legacy model
vast heart
I still dont understand why they made anky fast yet stego is still slow af
silver zephyr
making anky faster doesnt necessarily mean fast
vast heart
Fast for anky that is
outer condor
I kinda like this anky
silver zephyr
vast heart
Oh that looks cool
cobalt parcel
it's got tiny changes but to me it just looks odd. not saying legacy alberto is good or anything but idk i cant put my finger on it
cobalt parcel
i think legacy alberto looks more like a tyrannosaur
vast wolf
legacy alberto looks more real than rex with a skinny body.
vast wolf
its the neck and head being freakishly massive.
silver dagger
Do proportions tend to change drastically between concepts and models or are they usually spot on?
civic carbon
yeah it's the proportions that throw everything off
vast wolf
spot on usually.
narrow ingot
Glad allo don't have lips 😌
vast wolf
jake can do 1-1 models.
civic carbon
the head should be smaller + the legs can be fixed/slimed down
silver dagger
Then I do hope the concepts get adjusted.
vast wolf
theri and giga both look almost identical to the concepts.
silver zephyr
giga does have some changes. like the arms and head being bigger
silver dagger
Small changes miiiiiight be all they need.
vast wolf
that could just be the angle
cobalt parcel
i will have to wait for giga to be in game to know if i like it or not. iffy on it rn.
silver zephyr
vast wolf
giga will probably be another year at least.
silver zephyr
cobalt parcel
yeah
vast wolf
yeah head and arms look larger.
civic carbon
legs are beefier too
vast wolf
arms look a bit beefier but its pretty decent.
of course the thick skin on its back is likely not how it looked, but pretty unique and not bad.
cobalt parcel
does the head look a bit square to anyone or what do you think? i am undecided on the head
vast wolf
so far only true apexs with bad proportions are spino and anky if it keeps the dent.
gigas head is really square.
mellow maple
I think Jacob will make the proportions slightly better. In Alberto's case it should be easy to appeal to both parties. Who want a realistic, and who want a stylized design.
Acro on the other hand....yikes.
vast wolf
its crest is larger than the skeleton but that makes sense.
mellow maple
That's gonna need a lot of magic to not make it look ridiculous
vast wolf
funny enough jakes ankylosaur models are pretty 
cobalt parcel
wonder how new h-giga will look
vast wolf
cobalt parcel
actually that is probably the reason the new giga has osteoderms, is cuz of h-giga
paper oriole
edited his crest a bit but somethin about it looks too tyrannosaurid now
vast wolf
h giga can keep a similar model. just needs some head edits.
yeah that looks like a rex.
paper oriole
guess thats why they gave him the big crest
violet magnet
@queen knoll pretty sure these concepts are from Fred
They look like Fred's works
cobalt parcel
says jake in bottom corner
violet magnet
??
Alberto definitely looks like Fred's style wha
vast wolf
jake did denver for saurian for sure and he did a borealopelta as well. pretty sre the anky for saurian is from him too but not sure.
queen knoll
yeah, not to be mean to him at all i still love his art, but i feel tapwings has a sleeker design usually and i have become accustomed to seeing that. i think if they are going with tapwings look they should stick with it otherwise the dinosaurs will begin to look uncoordinated.
vast wolf
yeah he did make the anky.
cobalt parcel
strange wave
mmm acro chow
digital bone
now this is mega nice https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401481371249541120/773731946353524786/unknown.png
strange wave
@potent sonnet while most of it is very nice, the extra spikes at the end of the tail are unneeded and take away from the design as a whole
digital bone
I agree personally
potent sonnet
Perhaps. I added them to give a more recognizable outline
ashen elm
Saurian Anky ❤️
vast wolf
that borealopelta is pretty fire.
ashen elm
Yea his Borealopelta is really nice too.
barren zephyr
idk the spikes on its back look like a thing that would be for a elder acro tbh
mellow maple
^
analog inlet
@potent sonnet I love your acro edit so much! Acro is one of my favorites and your edit makes him look beautiful again. Thank you for posting it, I hope the devs take note of it. ;o;
potent sonnet
I'm just hoping they're looking in feedback in general, but thank you Ferid.
vast heart
Still a wip (doing the body changes rn), but I basically changed the skull so it now looks more similar to an acrocanthosaurus skull, instead of a carcharodontosaurus skull
ruby plinth
ALSO A BIG FAN OF SUPER SPIKEY ARCO EDIT that oslo linked. I LOVE that shit it's
I am a little gremlin for spikes
still raptor
By update 9 I feel that Sucho would still be too big for the roster.
However, if Beipis still isn't in the game by then, it would be cool Minmi came with it.
dreamy wharf
@vast heart, if you're going to pursue a Acro edit so far so good. Really like the chin spikes.
still raptor
I personally agree with Hash on the his statement. Tap does a really good job on bringing out the "monster" in creatures and I think that should be used for the strains and other lore related topics (not saying that she can't make a good dinosaur, because she defiantly can). However, I do like's Fred's design's because his art tends to have more details on the concepts than Tap's.
pure copper
I love how peps are acting like lips are a new thing for acro
keen crypt
I really love the spikey edit above, goes into the more reptilian look the Acro has
nimble thistle
Talking about spino...
white torrent
I like the body and proportions on new spino
They want a monster
But I just really dislike the structure of the head
hoary forum
That drawing by Tapwing is by far one of my favourites
It looks big, menacing and powerful
livid sage
Yea? @eternal owl
solar iron
This spino is much better than the isle 's current model
eternal owl
Huh?
valid zephyr
That spino there is by far my favourite.
narrow ingot
New spino best spino>tadpole spino
solar iron
@valid zephyr same here
frigid cosmos
did he just censor shut
fathom idol
@valid zephyr Agree, it has some artistic freedom (love how the sail runs all the way down the tail) and yet looks accurate to the recent findings. But as mutch as I like her work I just don't like the art for the new giga and on top comes the new Acro and Albert (who seem to be coming from someone else? ) Its just not my STYLE. I get why some people like them because they seem so monster like but didnt do ARK this already? Hate to say it but Path is getting my attention more and more stylewise.
rugged spruce
the new acro and alberto looks like big bad monsters, like JP/JW dinos :X
solar iron
I dont think that base dinos have to look like monsters. Simply just dont get it... The strains should look like monsters but base dinos should be accurate as much as it is possible with some unic artistic features allowed
rugged spruce
the strains can looke like godzilla or whatever is all ok, but as normal ones...
i think the already existing models are ok, only the movement should be reworked and all would be good :X
eternal owl
Sorry I just realised I @ you by accident. Sorry
visual patrol
I’ve heard rumour that the dev team are making the larger dinos Non playable,if so then that’s an awful decision
ebon crypt
First, why in this channel, and second, they are coming, just later on. I think that they'll be added as AI first, then they'll make them playable
vast heart
Here is my acro edit
vast heart
I changed the skull so it now looks more like an acrocanthosaurus skull
Made the tail longer
The neck longer and added a more S shape to it
Some small spines under the chin because why not
rugged spruce
it looks anatomically correct and so my eyes dont hurt xD
vast heart
I tried to make it more accurate while still looking from the isle
pure copper
the other thing that should be changed is probably the neck length
Is a bit too short on the initial concept I think
vast heart
It is
zinc rivet
why the fuck are so many people photoshopping the new concept arts
i think the originals are fine
none of the edits are objectively better
some of them seem even more inaccurate than the original
light moth
Oops I forgot to add the picture
But I agree Jenna
First time making feeback
Hope its ok
ebon crypt
Some people have brought up some fair points. I mean, it's been a good while since I was able to immediately tell if I like the concepts or not.
zinc rivet
What we should actually be concerned about imo is how they are actually implemented into the ecosystem, how they look doesn't matter near as much especially when they look fine
what fair points tho
ebon crypt
About the anatomy
valid zephyr
People are posting their feedback on the new concept in the channel devoted to feedback.
Nothing wrong with that.
keen crypt
Stop giving feedback about a concept smh
ashen elm
I mean the simple answer is the designs are polarizing, that's why people are giving suggestions.
valid zephyr
Punchpacket stated that the concept was the best time to post our feedback, as by the time the model is done it's a lot harder to fix.
keen crypt
God forbid people don't like how they look and would like to voice that
valid zephyr
People are allowed different opinions about how things look.
zinc rivet
I've just never seen people care so much about how something just looks and propose so many edits that feel honestly the same in many cases
when I'm seeming to be the only one caring about how tf are they gonna implement these guys into the roster without them infringing on other niches or being worse sidegrades
i don't get it lmao
rain quiver
That is an issue many people wonder as well
valid zephyr
Might have been a different dev which said it, not punch.
rain quiver
But they dont want fugly ass looking animals at the same time
ebon crypt
I mean, the look of something is important. It helps to convey the creatures intent and overall tone. You wouldn't add a really smooth and cartoony dinosaur to a horror game
rain quiver
Yet they added an obese acrocanthosaurus Rajing
silver zephyr
Punchpacket stated that the concept was the best time to post our feedback, as by the time the model is done it's a lot harder to fix.
pretty sure that was hypno but it doesnt matter really lol 🤓
zinc rivet
I come to propose a concept on how they can handle niche partitioning and the chat's flooded with photoshopped concepts lol
rain quiver
or a hypsilophodon that looks like a bird of paradise
keen crypt
Because people care about how things look, people want dinosaurs they like to be represented in a way they enjoy. Most people don't pick a playable for min-maxing, but because they like that dinosaur. Both gameplay and design are important.
valid zephyr
Roster balance is a different issue (a valid one too).
zinc rivet
the Acrocanthosaur looks scary to me
ebon crypt
I mean, I like the chunky acro in concept, but it definitely needs some tweaking
rain quiver
The lack of a neck is my biggest issue
Especially on the side shot
zinc rivet
it has a neck tho
ebon crypt
For sure
valid zephyr
@silver zephyr Ah I saw it from a red name and my mind assumed punch.
rain quiver
I miniscule one jenna
valid zephyr
ebon crypt
Its lack of neck and how it looks like Big Edd is, um, not great. Making it even slightly longer would do wonders
light moth
what do you guys think of my idea?
rain quiver
There is a neck
its a neck thats 1/2 the length of the actual animals neck
But there is a neck
valid zephyr
I love all these artists posting their opinions, as I get to see a ton of cool concepts.
zinc rivet
i hope hey don't change too much coz i rly like the original concepts :( they feel very badass
ebon crypt
The thing is, we don't really know what the devs have planned for the acro and alberto yet, so we can't really critisize the future playstyle, because we don't even know what they want from it. We are mainly criticising what we have of the creatures right now
vast heart
I think that the main problem with acrocanthosaurus is that, besides its really limited niche due to apexes and sub apexes, it doesn't look like it fits with the rest of carnivores ingame, its design is just really off
light moth
Anyone have feedback on my feedbaxk
zinc rivet
I'll post my rant on a proposed concept for niche partitioning at some point
vast heart
I do hope that atleast different diets will help with that
zinc rivet
honestly i think my idea might just be the diet system but more advanced
valid zephyr
Posting suggestions is tough on the day after a new concept is shown.
vast heart
There is no problem with acro looking chunky, but its proportions are so off that it doesn't look like a functional carnivore
zinc rivet
it goes w/ the diet system to encourage certain dinosaurs to stick near certain parts of the map and discourages them from others simply due to where the food is. Make certain herbivores live in certain localities based on where their preferred plants are, and then make certain carnivores prefer those certain herbivores and not prefer others.
Preferred food can refill allot of food and provide a temporary buff such as health/stam regen, general food can refill ok food and give no buff, and unpreferred food can refill very little food and provide a temporary regen debuff.
Apply this to the roster, and Acro suddenly is viable without needing to be awkwardly balanced. It is encouraged to live within it's own sub-ecosystem with a selection of creatures, while Giganotosaurus simply lives in a different locality with different prey items. Their gameplay is suddenly different not because their stats are different, but because they live in different regions with different creature interactions
vast heart
That sounds cool Jenna
zinc rivet
Idk if they do plan to actually do this but this is what I've thought up with on my own time and I really believe it'd help allot
ebon crypt
That does just sound like the diet system
zinc rivet
I hardly know anything abt the diet system other than food preferences, so there's a chance my concept is what they actually intend
which would make me rly happy
ebon crypt
Iirc the devs did mention natural "barriers" that would work similarly to how you suggested it would
vast heart
There is more info in the roadmap iirc
valid zephyr
I do hope that the planned diets encourage (not force) certain animals to live in certain regions.
zinc rivet
yeah me too Jenkens
ebon crypt
By that I mean adding natural, but not forced, restrictions
vast heart
zinc rivet
like there's nothing that would stop a Giga from travelling into Acro territory, but the prey items would provide such poor nutrition for Giga and the risk of conflict would be high due to Acro needing to defend it's preferred prey that the Giga would be better off just going to a different territory where it's prey actually lives
vast heart
Ye
light moth
So. Do you mean like maybe the carno in plain lands would be better?
vast heart
And considering how bleeding will work ingame I think that no one will want to mess with an acro
ebon crypt
Tbh by looking a the acro's current concept art, it looks like it could stand its ground against apexes. Not kill the apexes, but defo have a chance at fighting them. Acro was always a bit strange in legacy, not an apex, yet not a mid-tier either
zinc rivet
that info doesn't say anything about locality encouragement and species segregation which is a little h
but am still hopeful it works out
light moth
Same
mellow maple
@white torrent Literally what we should've had from the fucking beginning.
I also like the suggestion that says the base should be more towards the IRL counterpart and actually make the cool and stylized stuff for strains.
zinc rivet
maybe dial it back to Elders I'd say
mellow maple
sure, elders could just be minor exaggerated traits
zinc rivet
since strains are meant to be really alien and mutant monster-like to my knowledge, much further than just stylizing the traits
i don't feel like some stylized traits are enough for what "strains" seem to be aiming for
mellow maple
Some are alright, and some are....
When it comes to the new concepts. Jacob can easily make his magic work for the Alberto and probably also fix some proportions as well.
Acro tho
tawny mica
Yeah acro...
mellow maple
I was mixed on it when it first came out but that deviates way too much. Like god damn
zinc rivet
how does it deviate
mellow maple
Bone wise
tepid gate
the only reason why anyone would say this is acro is because of the ridge on the spine
zinc rivet
it very much looks like one to me
tepid gate
because of the elongated spinous processes
mellow maple
The angle view helped it a lot
tepid gate
if that's all that Acro is to you then yea that is very much Acro
mellow maple
because in side view it just looked
zinc rivet
skull shape is very carcharodontosaurian
mellow maple
absolutely ridiculous.
tepid gate
it's not Acro skull though
mellow maple
But, yes it does look like a carcharodontosaur-
zinc rivet
how is it not
tepid gate
It's way too large relatively to the rest of the body
mellow maple
The crest is massively exaggerated
tepid gate
the nasal ridge is enormous compared to Acrocanthosaurus skeletal
zinc rivet
soft tissue extension?
tepid gate
no, those are not just soft tissue extensions
tepid gate
the proportions are completely off too
ashen wasp
True, both of these new concepts look like the Elder versions of the base creatures
keen crypt
Old vs. New. Shamelessly taken from the Isle Discussion
mellow maple
Oh there he is
tawny mica
Looks like an alien
mellow maple
legs are oddly shorter
barren zephyr
it's just a fat fuck
sip
zinc rivet
it just looks fatter to me
tepid gate
Look at the size of the head of the new one in comparison to the old one
tawny mica
Not that it's THAT bad but
keen crypt
Skull is much larger on the new concept
tepid gate
The new one doesn't have a neck, its relatively shorter too
tawny mica
Looks like a guanlong skull doe
mellow maple
They're proportionally similar
mellow maple
^
lilac swallow
Acro's concept art could perfectly work for an elder acro
mellow maple
I'm starting to think the issue is not the bones for some areas
but the muscle itself
tepid gate
if you put a skeletal Acro next to it you can see that the skeletal is longer while the new one is significantly taller
zinc rivet
@mellow maple that's what I've been tryna say
mellow maple
I'm
tawny mica
Sorry guys it just doesn't look like an acro except for the spine that's it
mellow maple
stupid
zinc rivet
it's just fatter
mellow maple
sometimes LOL
tepid gate
no it's not "just fatter" the proportions are not those of an Acro
tawny mica
It's not just fatter
vast heart
Actually it depends, if you compare a skeletal to the concept and use the skull size as a reference the concept ends up being too short on both lenght and height
tepid gate
Yes because the head is way too big on the concept art
ashen wasp
I...... like the head. not sure how i feel about that.... is it neck armor?? what, to protect against Tyrannosaurus bites?? Honestly I've never been the biggest fan of playing Acro, always felt like it got the shortest end of the stick when it came to the Apexes, but if this new one is somehow able to hold its own in the cutthroat ecosystem of EVRIMA then i guess i owe it to myself to give it a look.
mellow maple
The arms have shrunken but that may actually be an accuracy on that front
vast heart
If you use the lenght as a reference then the skull ends up being massive, the torso too short and the legs too bulky
And yes, acro did had short and bulky arms
So atleast they got that right
mellow maple
mhm
vast heart
My only problem with it tbh is the size of the head, the lenght of the tail and the short bulldog neck
tawny mica
Hella big Dilophosaurus?
It's the skull tbh
I would literally not care about the body if it wasn't for the head
vast heart
Oh and the mass over the neck, it looks like a tumour
mellow maple
Not when you get into detail
tawny mica
Armadillo acro lmao
mellow maple
-wait I'm stupid
vast heart
Or just like it has a severe case of obesity
mellow maple
I thought you said that was the same skulll
tawny mica
I SWEAR
mellow maple
Fucking hell, I got Guanlong after all
he's just in hypo form
in the name of acro
tawny mica
UAHAUAHAHAH
vast heart
Evrima acro = guanlong + carcharodontosaurus + bulldog hybrid??????
ashen wasp
Acro looks like it has to swing its whole body around just to look at you
mellow maple
The only thing I like about it is the fact it has lips. Otherwise, it;s very much a step back from the original one.
tawny mica
+armadillo
vast heart
Alberto's body is just squashed
Its like a pug but instead of the head it was the body that got squashed
tawny mica
Yeah alberto isn't that bad
a lil short
ashen wasp
Alberto's fine, honestly, compared to Acro. I'd just like to know what they're thinking with this concept-- what's it gonna do, and how is this design gonna help with that??
tawny mica
I think acro and spino are the worst design in game
mellow maple
But the scales around the head
tawny mica
I like the face (even tho it's big)
mellow maple
I'm not saying they should've buttttt it would've been a neat detail for their alberto to have the up to date scale layout
This is tyrannosaurus yes
But I mean like in general
vast heart
Albertosaurus probably had a similar facial integument
mellow maple
:[
tawny mica
mellow maple
Ugh
tawny mica
After this i lost all hope
tawny mica
For the designs i mean
ashen wasp
The head and neck look fine, honestly, when you just imagine the throat is less muscular than the actual beef of it.
Honestly I think the biggest problem is in how they chose to pose the concept-- it's leaning forward and down, with its neck scrunched back-- of course it looks like it's gonna fall over
tawny mica
The game might be fun to play but still
mellow maple
I'm just saying like, delete the animal's design.
I will never stop expressing how shit that is.
It is the most out of place dinosaur in the entire game.
mellow maple
go on
tawny mica
And then you can fuck up all you want
mellow maple
hmmm
tawny mica
It's 10000 better than this
mellow maple
make the sail bigger tho
literally the one trait
I expected them to exaggerate
Nah it's half the size of its IRL counterpart
ashen wasp
Man, I'm glad we're getting the skin system before Spinosaurus because I do not like that muddy-lookin' skin
ashen wasp
WHAT DOES SPINOSAURUS NEED TO HIDE FROM
tawny mica
Spino is also a fish eater so..
tawny mica
Hide spino hide!!
mellow maple
I can totally hide a giant apex land giga 2
ashen wasp
mm. also not a big fan of Spino's tail.
ashen wasp
people keep saying it's a crocodile tail?? but it's cylindrical
tawny mica
Still hate the skull
ashen wasp
mmmmyeah the skull is bad
tawny mica
The spine yeah it's too small
mellow maple
The design behind this was for a creature who could kick ass or some shit. And, yeah, it totally would.
But this is like a kaiju b movie monster
tawny mica
But i seriously can't forgive them
ashen wasp
they could delete some of the beef from its back and make room for more sail
tawny mica
For its poor face
mellow maple
And then there's the mindset I see that Don wants a complete spinosaurus skeletal in order to even consider accuracy
ah okay
how about rugops tho
why tf, does it get to look like an actual abelisaur
when all we have of it is its fucking head
Actual bullshit, but uhh I got side tracked
yeah, acro bad, alberto okay
ashen wasp
would've preferred the concept on the right tbh
tawny mica
Spino very bad
lilac swallow
Concept art spino was way better than the model
ashen wasp
i feel like Stego's new sprint gets too much airtime
tawny mica
Question do they follow people's feedback?
lilac swallow
At least it wasnt just a charchardontid with a sail
mellow maple
There was this one someone made.
lilac swallow
Question do they follow people's feedback?
@tawny mica when they show anky model we may see
mellow maple
God damn I want it
ashen wasp
seems like, Bacco, when there's enough people with a reasonable request
tawny mica
@tawny mica when they show anky model we may see
@lilac swallow
What do you mean I'm worried??
There was this one someone made.
@mellow maple DAMN
ashen wasp
it was hinted that the Anky redesign is getting a re-redesign
due to immense public criticism
tawny mica
There's a redesign???
ashen wasp
oh you sweet summer child
lilac swallow
The concept has a broken spine and everyone complained about it, if the model has the spine fixed that means they listened
tawny mica
SEND THE ANKY
ashen wasp
lilac swallow
Ew
lilac swallow
Club tailed rhino cosplayed as anky
ashen wasp
honestly?? i dont think the dip is the problem. there's just a couple little knobs on either side of the flat area on its back that give the impression of a dip. i just wanna know what the hell is up with its arm cannons
mellow maple
Apparently that dip is intentional for gameplay
tawny mica
And then you can fuck up all you want
@tawny mica
I was so wrong
mellow maple
it's supposed to allow its hips or something to run fast
lilac swallow
The broken spine and the armor looking more like just thick skin instead of armor are my major problems
ashen wasp
so they segmented the Anky for......... articulation??? ew
lilac swallow
it's supposed to allow its hips or something to run fast
@mellow maple but we are getting slow stego so that point is useless
tawny mica
Anky is cake
ashen wasp
beefcake
lilac swallow
Isle devs and contradictory actions, name a more iconic duo
mellow maple
Too toxic to eat apparently
Just like the fandom when talking about it
what a wonderful metaphor
ashen wasp
or.... we WONT ||Magy adaptive camouflage Magy adaptive camouflage||
vast heart
Just let magy fly
ashen wasp
devs have said that toxic meat won't be Magy's gimmick defense-- that's just a little somethin' extra
silver zephyr
running faster does not necessarily mean fast as a whole
ashen wasp
oh-- it'd be cool if Anky had a symbiotic relationship with like, a type of moss or something, allowing it to grow on its back, granting it a passive stealth effect when standing still.
mellow maple
It inhales air and begins to float away. 👋
ashen wasp
just give me my mossy-backed ankylosaurs already
tawny mica
just give me my mossy-backed ankylosaurs already
@ashen wasp this is actually gold
ashen wasp
alright screw it it's going in #general-feedback
tawny mica
Do it
Anky players be like: k boys going afk
Ovi, utah and all small dinos sittin on them
Then getting an heart attack when they wake up
ashen wasp
oh all fuckin' RIGHT imma draw it.
tawny mica
Me too man
tawny mica
ashen wasp
DAMN youre a good artist
random imp
i do not hate the rhino style Anky, it's just the back that is wrong
and could use a little more spikes
ashen wasp
Here’s mine— couldn’t quite get the scale for the Ovi that I wanted so just imagine it’s a juvenile
random imp
but the real question is, why Fred keeps making grottesque, cartoony and deformed concepts?
paper trout
JP
ashen wasp
my guess is that the fictionalization and differentiation required for balancing makes it necessary to try new artistic avenues-- his less-speculative art done for Wikipedia and the like is some of the best I've seen
fathom idol
^ Yes! But both look like this to be honest. HUGE dislike
errant tartan
im genuinely excited about the roadmap now they have changed it
i hope it stays the same as that
idk what do yall think about the roadmap change
tawny mica
Here’s mine— couldn’t quite get the scale for the Ovi that I wanted so just imagine it’s a juvenile
@ashen wasp you're a very good artist too
ashen wasp
oh, you
tawny mica
Have you seen the eating animation?
It literally hates whatever it's eating
Like very aggressively biting every chunk of meat
vast wolf
pretty sure wallowing is confirmed to help bleeding.
dim umbra
Stego kicking back seems a bit odd. rather give it trampel
warped tapir
@azure wadi its already confirmed
warped tapir
a tail whip was confirmed for awhile im pretty sure
azure wadi
oh ok, i did not know that. cool
Geko animals dont have smell that is that perfect, the current scent system is perfect, working on it anymore is pointless but i do agree that vomit should be smellable
also reacting to your own suggestion, cringe
valid zephyr
I still think that the best idea for spino is have hatchling to sub adult as 'realistic' (short legs, newt tail, narrow jaws).
Then over sub to adult it morphs into isle monster spino which we currently have.
Niche change as it grows.
azure wadi
sounds cool, as long as a baby spino is recognisable as a baby of the monster and we get to keep kaiju spino im happy, mabye a more crocodile like tail considering that kaiju spino has a round croc tail
less newt more croc
valid zephyr
As in like tapwings one people keep posting (though the hatchlings and juvies don't really have a sail).
azure wadi
yeah looks good, i just dont want that as the adult, i wonder what elder spino will look like considering spino looks like an old man
valid zephyr
Yeah current spino as the adult, more like that one while it's young
So as it goes from sub to adult its legs grow longer, its tail rounds out, and its jaw bulks up.
and the sail grows from juvie to adult.
lilac swallow
Real Life spino with long legs would have been the best case
It looks like a spino
But It can go faster
ebon crypt
Or the spino could've just had the shorter legs and more realistic proportions in the first place. Honestly, due to the internet, I started to kinda hate the newt tail due to an overexposure to it. But a stubby spino can still be fucking terrifying, we didn't need a mutated croc. I think that Milkshake neck made a very cool edit of the Isle spino concept art and it looks badass. Let me try to find it real quick
Why couldn't we have this, but with the croc tail?
lilac swallow
Because if spino is not a sailed carcharodomtid is "not viable"
valid zephyr
I mean the newt tail wasn't discovered when isle spino was modelled. And the short legs were still disputed.
It was only after the new isle spino was shown that the new paper with the newt tail and confirmed leg lengths appeared.
lilac swallow
Forget the tail and the legs, It still doesnt look like a spino
The eyes arent even in the proper place of the skull
ebon crypt
Yeah, I know about the newt tail and Isle spino situation, but still. They also stretched out the arms for some reason and that head is literally just an extended rex
lilac swallow
And the sail is so small that is only there so It can be called spinosaurus
ebon crypt
Though, I guess, most spino's have a top jaw that of you cut it off, it kinda looks like a rex
lilac swallow
"but It cant kill Rex so is bad"
narrow ingot
Tadpole spino cursed image
ebon crypt
But seriously, I can see that they tweaked the concept a little, but in the wrong places. The new croc tail is fine, but the head and longer arms just aren't doing it for me. It also seems like they made the body more round, which makes the sail look a tad bit smaller too
tepid dune
i love the concept one so bad...
lilac swallow
The concept one was at least unique
tepid dune
it looks fierce and robust and along the line somewhat accurate
lilac swallow
Not sailed giga
ebon crypt
It's not that different, but just tweaked in the wrong areas
lilac swallow
Yeah
tepid dune
indeed
barren zephyr
Ngl
The sail of the spino looks smaller on the model, the big sail would look a lot better imo
idc for accuracy on the spino, it looks badass as it is
mellow maple
the only thing that makes people shit on accurate spino. The one thing is leg size
mellow maple
the main issue I'm told is that making a bigger sail would make it hard to see. I call bs.
literally, PCE has a similar spino mutation I can see just fine LMAO
lilac swallow
the only thing that makes people shit on accurate spino. The one thing is leg size
@mellow maple not really true, as i want real spino and legs size is the least thing i care
mellow maple
I do too but the main critique of it is the short legs
lilac swallow
like, proper spinosaurid head and body is more important
mellow maple
to which then they lump the rest of the anatomy as "inferior"
when they couldn't any more wrong
lilac swallow
long legs are kinda a gameplay adaptation
mellow maple
I guess but you could just make a short leg spino run fast
Not the first time they've broken the limits of anatomy
lilac swallow
also trrue, not only that, it also doesnt need to kill apexes, we already have 2 (4 if you count acro and deino) apexes that kill apexes, i want variety
mellow maple
He walks fine just too.
PCE's spino leg size is probably longer than how it would've been IRL but only by a small margin
I would've been fine with that
ebon crypt
Short and stubby spino is Chad.
lilac swallow
just beef up a bit a real spino and is a perfect medium point between real and fighter spino
mellow maple
ALSO I hate the color on Isle so so much
it's so fucking bland
It fails as unique design and a representation of Spinosaurus
lilac swallow
the detail NOT being on the sail is a crime
it fails at both
where is the colourful sail for the males?
mellow maple
it make it hard to hide, it'll get caught easily
ebon crypt
It looks more powerful that way, really. It already doesn't move that fast anyway and, if we're going by real life standards, its bite won't do much damage to another apex, so wouldn't it make sense to have a bulkier and sturdier body to push or claw its opponent instead?
lilac swallow
it make it hard to hide, it'll get caught easily
@mellow maple is already hard to hide
and you can allways play female
barren zephyr
i mean with a spino. that doesn't matter
mellow maple
I honestly want to hear the rebuttals on how Isle Spino is an okay design. I really want to know.
mellow maple
That's so unique. Trike and Giga are in its league too
lilac swallow
you want to kill rexe? pick giga, trike, hell even theri and stego, but why it looks like spino is the only one who can?
barren zephyr
i feel like isle's spino is an attempt to make a unique yet similar design like the JP spino since that's all it's suppose to be but it misses the mark by doing too much
like JP spino is simple af but it's iconic af
lilac swallow
at least jp spino looked like a spinosaurid(a sailed oversized baryonyx)
barren zephyr
i mean yeah but you can use the excuse that they didn't know what spino really was at the time
mellow maple
Tail, I can excuse
barren zephyr
here you can't
ebon crypt
I could try to somewhat justify it, but that's a lot of typing and it mostly just boils down to "some of the design choices make sense", but then again, you don't have to completely overhaul the animal to make it look capable of doing something. In game standards, it doesn't really need to have a thicker jaw to have a stronger bite force. Just look at the fucking indominus with its paper thin jaw and lanky ass fingers
mellow maple
Arms. the only good quality
barren zephyr
the head is like an awesomebro attempt at a JP style spino
mellow maple
GOD
ashen wasp
i mean im still tryna figure out why this isnt what everybody's pushing for
mellow maple
it looks stupid
it's not meant to be realistic
I think it looks fine
silver zephyr
personally dont like the coloring
lilac swallow
a proper sail and head are my firsts, then the tail amd then the legs
mellow maple
Okay that ye
barren zephyr
the tail is meh
mellow maple
Tail again, I can excuse. But if they went out of their way to add that.
That'd be dope af
you can do something cool with the tail for a mechanic
Tenonto can do it
spino should too
barren zephyr
oh ik i meant that specific tail is meh looking.
ebon crypt
The croc tail is honestly one of the better choices for the new spino, especially since the newt tail was discovered after the redesign
mellow maple
It'd be a monster af if it can cover itself from behind as well
ashen wasp
it isn't a croc tail??? it's cylindrical????
mellow maple
The tail wouldn't be able to do that IRL but spino being the king of range would be hella scary
ebon crypt
I'm talking about the current model
ashen wasp
so am i
mellow maple
Rex and giga you can flank to the butt maybe
silver zephyr
give spino long tail and turn it into ark bary but anywhere
mellow maple
but Spino, if it had a long tail that it could use as a get off me tool
that'd be difficult to fight
frigid cosmos
🙂 moment
barren zephyr
i still think it would've just been awesome if they gave us Hippo spino but they scaled it up so it can deal with rex/giga
ebon crypt
Hippo spino?
barren zephyr
short legged water dweller
ashen wasp
||Hippoendocrin||
silver zephyr
quad spino
ashen wasp
nope
barren zephyr
like back when they considered two types of spinos. the quad and the normal type. quad was gonna bullcharge out of the water like a hippo
lilac swallow
the moment you realize hyper spino looks anatomically better as a spino
barren zephyr
honestly. i dislike the hypo spino only cuz of it's tail
mellow maple
That ironically may have been ahead of its time
silver zephyr
its tail is cool
vast wolf
because of the club or the tail in general?
ashen wasp
Hyper Spino's tail reminds me of this newer Anky's
ebon crypt
The end of the tail is a little weird, yeah
barren zephyr
the club
silver zephyr
the club cool
mellow maple
Do i like it's look? ehh? Idc it's a monster. I'm not supposed to but the fact its kinda like a fluke.
They had something going on
ashen wasp
Club cool if club useful
barren zephyr
the club made no sense and why they didn't just stick with it being a paddle i will never know
mellow maple
YEs
vast wolf
ashen wasp
Spinosaurus had a tusked Hyperendocrin form before it was lame
vast wolf
because its tusks arent bone shards sticking into its skull.
barren zephyr
god damn that concept is cartoony af
ashen wasp
wasnt it originally unofficial??
barren zephyr
no
vast wolf
yeah that was taps from 2016
barren zephyr
that's tapwings neurospino
lilac swallow
If you de-monsterify hyper spino is a better spino than the actual spino we got
silver zephyr
looks like a dog or cat stretching on the bottom right
ashen wasp
ah, im thinking of Type-N
silver zephyr
type t 
vast wolf
just add this
silver zephyr
no
ashen wasp
I'd worry with that, actually. namely because of A) Deinosuchus, and B) Rex, Giga, and Acro.
barren zephyr
ehh if they upscale spino again it wouldn't matter and keep it's place as big tank
ashen wasp
it doesn't look like itd be able to defend itself against the other monster-ized apex carnivores on the island
vast wolf
if the map had actual water sources instead of meter deep swamps i think spino would be pretty decent.
ashen wasp
the swamps in EVRIMA get pretty fckn deep, what do you mean??
barren zephyr
if the map wasn't just green and had more interesting colors than yellow, green, and brown
ashen wasp
that'll be less of an issue with human environments, i think
vast wolf
this concept for spino could be the old aquatic idea thay had for it being mostly aquatic and eating fish and lower tier animals with the one we have right now being the other with it being the apex like animal.
the swamps pockets would suck for a big swimming animal.
deino is short so it can swim through them but spino or even sucho wont be able to at all.
barren zephyr
i mean a sucho isn't gonna be swimming much anyway since it just likes ankle deep waters
vast wolf
fair but you see my point of there being no habitat for large aquatic animals except deino at all right now.
barren zephyr
yeah but that's for right now and deino is the biggest thing for swimming that's gonna be in probably for MONTHS until the next thing that can swim in the same environment as deino comes in
me personally. wouldn't worry much about it
vast wolf
minmi beip and bary update 9 when.
barren zephyr
minmi would probably fair well all things considered
vast wolf
yeah that instant burrow is going to be fun.
barren zephyr
oh yeah
narrow ingot
To that giga suggestion leave him alone 😡😡😡my boi lookin good.
Im finna rage and make angry 3 page reddit post in the next 10 seconds then delete isle. In that order. 😌
😌😌😌
vast wolf
its just fine.
all i dont care for is the back armor but its not awful.
face is looking nice.
narrow ingot
Period ^i think it looks better than the old one tbh
narrow ingot
Yeah im not liking them anymore. Very much stale looking to me now
vast wolf
at least gigas skull keeps getting more accurate.
barren zephyr
i like both gigas, but the old adult giga looks cooler imo
ig the new one has a more realistic look
mellow maple
MMMM, Emily posted something on twitter that now really sheds light on a grievance I had with Alberto
Look at the hip on the top right
silver dagger
I think I made it a bit more severe than it is in the concept though.
narrow ingot
Well tbh. Im.not sure if i care. Bc the devs already showed they use the skeletals when making the models so ik it's going to be improvements.
unborn quail
It is nice seeing how most people making feedback on the alberto have the same basic idea
It's way too beefy and disproportionate
mellow maple
concept can change, that and I see a slightly extreme curve but it's still present without colors
silver dagger
Most of the edits are very similar.
narrow ingot
Only difference i feel like the new alberto is going to have is be thicker
lilac swallow
It's way too front heavy
unborn quail
Just doesn't capture what alberto is as an animal, too much like rex
silver dagger
I'm just assuming they want it to be easily identifiable from a distance that it isn't a young rex.
It's like a small adult rex lol
mellow maple
but, young rexes age. and their heads are distinctly different
unborn quail
~in doing so they've made it look like a midget adult rex
lilac swallow
It does look like a small rex
mellow maple
I see what you meant tho emily
silver dagger
I still think the proportions are too cartoonish, regardless.
unborn quail
Agreed
mellow maple
I second that
silver dagger
It can keep that beefy neck, but the head is simply too big.
mellow maple
And then we have acro
unborn quail
Just gimme back what makes alberto stand out from rex, Lean lad built for speed
lilac swallow
Also the jaw going upwars is cursed
mellow maple
I'm glad they didn't go for the extreme of "JFC" levels of skinny
narrow ingot
Acro kinda chad Imo. I just hate he's toothless again 😂
silver dagger
I'm not sure if the jaw is really going upwards or if it's varying amount of lip.
vast wolf
anyone else here remember when albertos lower jaw was split.
mellow maple
vast wolf
one side was a whole tooth legnth above the other.
mellow maple
oh god
silver dagger
It still feels as if it's lip obscuring the teeth after the first 3 on the top.
vast wolf
looked like it got kicked in the face a bit too hard.
mellow maple
I hope it is lipped in general
silver dagger
When I was changing the old model to look like it, it did seem like lips.
vast wolf
the lower jaw definitely looks curved at one point.
unborn quail
Doubting its lipped personally
prob would have showed them off like they did w/ acro
silver dagger
It might be partial JP lips though, most likely.
unborn quail
Something similar to allo i'd expect
alberto and allo seem to have the same design philosophy
mellow maple
That is the literal compromise I think that will appeal to both parties
Actual good shit
vast wolf
@safe widget if acro is made faster how is it not just a big allo? allo will likely be a fast ambush predator with low stamina. also pce's acro is horribly shrinkwrapped and thin to the point of being emaciated.
the model itself is good but the way its executed makes it sad.
tawny mica
You mean the new one?
vast wolf
i also agree that the new acros design is pretty sad.
tawny mica
Aight then
safe widget
I'm not saying it should be exactly like the primal carnage acro, or a bigger allo. It would be fast but not like allo fast. It would be fast enough to easily outrun rex/spino/giga and it could maybe be a mix of damage and bleed, like in the middle of rex and giga on that regard with less health.
vast wolf
the only issue with it being that fast means everything else has to be boosted up.
safe widget
Wdym?
vast wolf
rex is running at 36kmph in evrima. allo is running at about 40kmph
where does that put acro and every other mid tier in terms of speed and balance.
safe widget
Rex should be slower in my opinion, and allo should be faster
Rex isn't supposed to be a runner
vast wolf
rex is an ambusher. if ambush stays gone it needs that speed.
safe widget
I agree it is an ambusher
valid zephyr
I think simply stretching the neck and tail to their proper lengths does wonders. The head no longer attaches directly to the body and the tail provides enough balance.
vast wolf
allo being faster is dangerous because then it reaches speeds similar to something like dryo.
safe widget
but if It gets taken away and rex is that fast it makes it's kind of OP and leaves other dinos like acro and sucho at its mercy.
vast wolf
sucho will be able to run from rex as far as we know.
safe widget
That's good at least.
My main concern is that if the acro is made slow and isn't as powerful as apexes, how is it supposed to fight or get away from them?
silver zephyr
Be fat
vast wolf
this is likely being changed but this is allos old run from march. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/680019149606486029/AlloRun.mp4
silver zephyr
vast wolf
we dont know. giga is still going to be an endurance monster.
safe widget
Idk I just feel like the model is ugly. Idk how to put it other than that. I also have no idea where it will fit in the competitive roster.
vast wolf
i agree the acro model needs a lot of work. its neck is short and way too fat. its head is also oversized. we actively dont know where anything we dont have a behavioral concept or info for on the roadmap will be.
tepid gate
You mean the concept art?
safe widget
Yes
vast wolf
yes were talking about acros concept.
tepid gate
Beanie said model so I wasn't sure
Yea it's pretty ugly
There are some fixes that can be done - the easiest being stretching it out and making it longer like Jenkens suggested
safe widget
I understand what they were going for, but I think they took it a bit too far.
vast wolf
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/773690654475157514/Acro.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401481371249541120/773892828119826472/20201105_093945.png
safe widget
Yeah I like that a lot better, just feel like the head should be a little slimmer.
tepid gate
Yes, that edit makes it look like a real animal and not ridiculous
vast wolf
the head right there is pretty close to the actual skeleton.
tawny mica
I still think it looks like a guanlong
tepid gate
Also I think that Acro could probably fit a niche of an endurance hunter where it just trots stuff down and then uses its bulk to kill every animal its size or smaller
vast wolf
any tighter and its shrinkwraped.
tawny mica
They should change the face
gentle fiber
Yeah the acro has a lot of chonk
vast wolf
Also I think that Acro could probably fit a niche of an endurance hunter where it just trots stuff down and then uses its bulk to kill every animal its size or smaller
thats gigas job
safe widget
Idk I guess I just think it looks better with a slimmer jaw.
tepid gate
I don't think it would be fast, not with those proportions and not with its real proportions either
gentle fiber
I like the edit though
vast wolf
i feel like acro could be an ambusher/bleeder kind of a smaller mix of giga and rex.
tepid gate
We don't know if it's going to be Gigas job in Evrima as well
tawny mica
The edit is pretty neat
vast wolf
were 90% sure giga will be the same as legacy.
tawny mica
STILL HATE THAT FACE THO
tepid gate
Not to mention Acro's much better at endurance hunting in the legacy too since it has a better trot than Giga does
vast wolf
well similar to legacy.
safe widget
Apexes are pretty far off anyway so we don't know too much.
vast wolf
giga will likely have good stamina and a decent trot but it wont be as good as legacy.
nimble thistle
Shouldn't an animal get an infection from dirt?
vast wolf
betetr for hunting things like shant and camara than trike or stego.
no lots of animals take mud baths to help with injuries.
tepid gate
Has any dev spoken about the niche of Giga(or any other apex for that matter)?
safe widget
I hope they do Utah pounce some justice. I would love to see 4 utahs pounce a shant and take it down.
tepid gate
Because I think this is just theory-crafting done by the community
vast wolf
yes. we know what spino will do and we know they plan to keep rex as an ambusher with high speed and low stamina.
tepid gate
Not to mention the new Acro does not look like an animal that would be able to run fast at all so I don't see it ambushing anything but a pile of rocks perhaps
safe widget
Will spino be primarily a fisher?
vast wolf
i dont see an animal with about two tons of fat on its body being good for endurance either.
tepid gate
Spino is meant to be an ATV kind of
vast wolf
spino will be a fisher until its massive when it will mostly be an atv at at that point.
safe widget
Ah.
tepid gate
The thing is that the build of Acro here is more reminiscent of T.rex I think with how robust and massive it is and as we know T.rex wasn't exactly about running catching up to things but more so trotting them down
barren zephyr
@patent bramble I completely agree. I hate the current spino, pls make it look like that
vast wolf
we also know that the devs plan rex to be an ambsher.
tepid gate
Yea but that's not my point
vast wolf
its at least confirmed to not be an endurance hunter.
tepid gate
I'm talking about Acro and how its build being similar to that of a real life T.rex could make it an animal that hunts in a similar way as T.rex did irl
safe widget
I mean if we are talking about real life Acro would have a very similar role to Giga.
vast wolf
thats the issue. if acro is an endurance predator that means its a giga clone.
tepid gate
Not really, Giga could be between Acro and Rex
vast wolf
irl acro was an ambush predator.
tepid gate
Acro wasn't a fast animal irl, it was actually slower than Giga and the gracile morph of Rex very likely
vast wolf
even with a sail it would have been to heavy to run very fast.
mostly walk after things and ambush them.
tepid gate
It also had relatively short, stubby legs
vast wolf
yep
tepid gate
Its build in general doesn't scream "speed"
safe widget
Which is why it went after sauropods. All it had to do was walk after them.
vast wolf
as is the norm for ambushers.
take abelisaurids. most had short legs and were ambushers.
carno is an exception.
safe widget
Abelisaurids went after sauropods aswell.
vast wolf
yeah slow ambushers with bulky builds that took down large prey.
still want acro to get a tackle attack for sauropods to try to knock them over.
safe widget
Yeah that sounds like it would be good for acro.
tepid gate
I don't think Acro is knocking over a Camasaurus or Brachiosaurus, even with all the additional mass on the new concept
safe widget
Or maybe it can use that against other apexes to allow it time to get away if it can't fight them.
tepid gate
Magy on the other hand would very likely die if Acro decided to sit down on it
safe widget
Poor Magy
vast wolf
acro would demolish magy if it could catch it.
valid zephyr
@barren zephyr magy weighs a tiny bit over a ton. It's smaller than in game tenoto.
It doesn't have power or weight. It's a small tier not built for running with no serious weapons.
vast wolf
acro would probably be able to pick up magy and shake it like a ragdoll.
valid zephyr
Allosaurus weighs double magy.
thin stag
Iirc correctly didn't Punch say Magy would have another trick by it's sleeve apart from it's meat??
vast wolf
safe widget
Yeah that's not outrunning much.
vast wolf
run is pretty old as of now and was wip. might change.
i still see it being fast enough to escape rex and giga at least.
safe widget
Yeah
thin stag
Running concept Magy does look fast
valid zephyr
Magy fighting allo is like para fighting rex.
vast wolf
a good speed for acro could be 35-38 kmph if rex keeps its speed.
narrow ingot
Damn yall want to change spino too. He's chad now...like... 😡😭
tepid gate
Me and a couple of other people came up with a certain mechanic that could perhaps make it a fun and unique playable that wouldn't be fodder to mid tiers
vast wolf
with sucho falling in the same range.
barren zephyr
please share
tepid gate
I should probably post it in feedback because I don't think anyone bothered
safe widget
Maybe if Magys roamed in herds they could get some sort of buff?
thin stag
Magy does look fast here 
silver zephyr
What
tepid gate
No animal should have to depend on being in a group to have a chance of survival
narrow ingot
Unsavory taste magy superior
vast wolf
the game wont really be balanced around packs or herds.
safe widget
Actually many animals depend on it for survival.
vast wolf
utah and troo make sense. they are meant to be pack hunters.
safe widget
Although I can see how it would make gameplay awkward
thin stag
And it tearing down trees is apparently canon? 
vast wolf
even then utah especially can survive alone.
safe widget
Maybe Magy just pushes things over lol
vast wolf
magy will 100% eat trees. devs have talked about knocking down trees and its very likely to be a thing.
tepid gate
Alright I posted the general outline of the idea in feedback, there's a lot that can be changed there in general and many things are up for discussion
This is of course assuming the devs don't have their own way to make this animal good because if they do and already worked on it then it would be just a waste of time.
valid zephyr
Magy clownfish niche.
Let it live among strain plants and not get eaten, and its calls lure things in. Which the plant eats.
silver zephyr
valid zephyr
Take clownfish niche a step further, and let magy change sex so it can always breed.
ashen wasp
Magy's back legs look a lot longer in the concept than they do on the model
vast wolf
thats due to the posture of the run.
its holding its neck high but its legs are still longer than its arms.
unborn quail
Yes
join the actual alberto crusade
I'd slim down the legs and feet a tad but other than 
makes me happy that we're all mostly agreed on what alberto needs
silver zephyr
milkshake always out here with the chaddest edits
makes me happy that we're all mostly agreed on what alberto needs
ya mean the proportions correct?
unborn quail
ye
silver zephyr
unborn quail
making it actually look like alberto rather than midget rex
lilac swallow
Who would have thought that alberto fans wanted an alberto instead of a chibi Rex?
fading cloak
nah man i wanted a bulldog not alberto 
spark sigil
I'm confused if people like my spino call suggestion lol
knotty sparrow
I honestly find these Alberto and Acro designs to be a vast improvement over the previous designs which looked so out of place in Legacy.
tawny mica
They don't even look real
The isle has
jp dinos
Monster dinos
Normal looking dinos
And hyper realistic dinos
The acro and alberto were great
Now they are monster dinos
paper oriole
how many separate lines were really needed there lmao
strange wave
zero
dapper pulsar
I feel like some of those categories are too similar.
tepid gate
Not exactly
paper oriole
and i dont think them being "monster dinos" is even the problem, the problem is their short ass necks and big heads just dont look balanced lmao
but thats just imo
valid musk
Idc what a dinosaur looks like in media as long as the media is not trying to be accurate
I adore the new designs especially the new Acro
vast wolf
so you like the thing with a neck made of pure fat thats barely discernable from its body or oversized skull?
mellow maple
hmm, it's subjective what one likes tbh
Sure, I'm not a fan of Isle Spino but it appeals to someone I guess
silver dagger
I don't wanna be too mean to the new alberto design, but I just checked and it has similar proportions to the JW Albertosaurus toy (other than the toy having a laughably short tail)
vast wolf
just the entire community seems to agree that alberto and acro have horrible proprotions
mellow maple
that's the good thing tbh
The fact people can unite on basic proportions of the animal is supposed to be.
Also that's just sad
silver dagger
The toy still has a smaller head lol
mellow maple
you're joking
silver dagger
If I scale based on the legs.
vast wolf
fucking depressing.
paper oriole
so basically jp alberto put on a few pounds
silver dagger
Their heads are actually almost exactly the same size in relation to the legs and torso.
valid musk
Both are so much better then the old ones
silver dagger
The old model wasn't that bad lol, certainly not worse than that toy.
paper oriole
i like old alberto ):
mellow maple
It's just old
that's all it is
it needed a new model to make the colors n scales line up better
but then they made it like a toy
vast wolf
the old model just had a short tail due to it being placed on a pre built rig and having its proportions changed.
mellow maple
God damn it, they actually fucked over my favorite dinosaur
valid musk
I didn’t really like the old Acro
silver dagger
I'm just hopeful they take our input and change the proportions a little. Maybe this whole time I'm just overreacting haha.
mellow maple
^^^
paper oriole
i dont like old acro's diaper crotch but at least he isnt so messed up in the head/neck
mellow maple
Jacob's magic is seriously needed here
valid musk
Yeah I feel like the new head should be a bit longer and smaller
vast wolf
tbf they should just have jake make the acro model. its his dev pick anyway.
basically make it to his liking.
paper oriole
the back plates/thick skin are fine if they play into it being a tank or something but goddamn that neck and head need to change lmao
silver dagger
I appreciate that they want to get everything to match more stylistically, which seems to be more monstrous or unique overall.
mellow maple
I'm in the near opposite camp of that spectrum. Too monstrous, and it undermines the point of a base dinosaur and the strains that follow
paper oriole
austro is missing his whole secondary ribcage in the rework
mellow maple
JP wanted to be credible to a point, JW took over its fucking profile of the monster show it is now
vast wolf
silver dagger
I've been wondering for awhile if each dinosaur has a modern animal that their genome incorporates heavily. Rhino for anky, bird for Hypsy, etc
mellow maple
Maybe that's part of the lore?
silver dagger
I hope so.
vast wolf
tbf the background austro design is fine but the side profile is so skinny.
paper oriole
rhino anky 
silver dagger
That anky looks too rhino to not be lol
vast wolf
paper oriole
poor poor anky
vast wolf
unbonk the honk.
paper oriole
somebody bopped his back with the bad-animal mallet
valid musk
I hate what they did to our poor anky
vast wolf
its likely to change anyway.
silver zephyr
give anky more arm tumors
paper oriole
"you guys don't think anky is a bad animal huh??? we'll change that"
vast wolf
just wish the devs would tell us if they are changing anything.
valid musk
But I’ve heard that it’s like that because it would give the animal better tail move more but idk
lilac swallow
"Lets break anky's spine so It can run fast enought to not be boring"
Proceeds to make Stego slow