#general-feedback-discussion
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Also can be an a.i predator for minmi too
Beipi's and minmi's main predator 
Yes^šš
Beez would be cool ai
@paper oriole I do like the idea of amphibians like that, but, iirc, the devs wanted to add a small river mosasaur.
Bary also seems like a wader not an aquatic @shut owl
Bary looks like hed also eat a healthy mix of fish and small dinos
Not a true specialist
If they are already planning a small river mosa thats alright i guess lol
Yeah. Sucho and Spino are specialists, Bary is sort of a bipedal land croc
Not literally, don't use the FK Baryonyx
tf was that
Sry I was on the wrong discord channel and didnāt notice
ok
Aren't the human bases supposed to have a deterring effect around them to ward dinos off? Iirc nested dinos won't get it because they don't have the chips unlike spawned dinos.
Also upvoting your own suggestion 
that moment when add strains to an ecosystem with 3 playables.
Now 







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when
Mistakes were madeā¢ļø
Yeah let's make a game where the dinosaurs glide around t posing because obviously animation isn't worthwhile
Lol
pussy lmao
i genuinely dont get some people
"wtf animators stop animating NOOOOOOOOOOOO"
Stop tweaking animations š”š¤¬š¤¬š”
Theyre impatient and inconsiderate of others is all
Mfw cant add content like new dinos without animating them
also that
Literally some people cant grasp the fact that making a high quality game takes years with a group of less than 10
i get being mad at development or whatever
And then if they were to release a low quality buggy version they'd be angry
but then there is just straight up ignorance
What you can't let the animators do their job!!!! š”š¤¬š¤¬
guys lets make bryan and kissen start coding
no more animations
would be poggers
Yep
@lilac sapphire you do know that the animators are different from the programmers, right?
moose they left
Oh lmao
They're probably writing an essay on r/theisle on how we assaulted them

imagine unironically being that dude typing that up thinking its funny. puts it in feedback and leaves.

Isle redditors rise up
Imagine wanting good animations
Iām fine with Dinos just sliding around and shit š
I think the reason the word tweaking is there is due to the fact this person thinks you would just be able to put the legacy animations in evrima
even though evrima would require new animations due to animals needing new rigging
yep
@gray loom That is happening already
But will be optional
there will basically be an elder growth stage you need to do certain tasks to be able to get
you go super strong for a bit then progressively get weaker
Then you die of age
Dying of age = get perks for next life
āApexes have it hard in legacyā logs into legacy server to find 2/3rds of the population is gigas and rexes
Buff
he was referring to solo apexs
which is true they do have it rough b/c the apex mega packs eat them
Pretty sure an aging feature is already planned
You guys remember the elder system n all that
yeah, its optional because people dont want to be punished for being good at surviving
Optional dying is cool especially when it gives you buffs in your next life
para for update 4 is fine
although who knows if its semi aquatic
shant is way too big
@barren zephyr the only one remotely anywhere near addition is para, and para being a swamp animal is just it as fodder for the 3 predators its size and larger, shant is the only other confirmed animal there in need of a niche and its further off that acro and alberto
also that
Ide much prefer shant to be a migrational animal who goes to swamps for like one of many shifting preferred food sources
since unlike para it can at least survive the preds there
googling claosaurus
and flooded with predators? so sucho and deino are the only 2 with tenonto and beipi as herbi and "herbi" sure there is one fuck ton of a size difference but oh well
I feel like if you went more into depth on how those animals would just be clones of current ones and how they would play into aquatic environments (excluding ourano and anantoitan who are teno and shant clones)
clao is like a small hadro
ourano just being a teno clone b/c they are tossing teno in the swamps for some reason
nigersaurus is cool but it probably wont be added cause of people and haha funny name
weird love for hadros in that suggestion too
suprised koreaceratops was skipped
i dont want lurdu but im suprised that wasnt even mentioned
yeah, korea is one animal with any chance of a unique semi aquatic niche
I also think its interesting how they say big herbivore
But um
post the ourano size...
lemme get the good chart lol
Dryo sized hadro poggers
nigersaurus isnt even that big either
its like slightly bigger thyen magy sized
tenonto then
this one has niger and ourano
size wise i guess
wow much big animol
nigersaurus could actually work as a magy skin imo
gulper eel magy
imo the only thing i agree with is para update 4
half of those arent even big
2 are clones
Itās definitely not smol tho
what is
Its small compared to the preds your sayign swamps is flooded with
hypsi and dryo maybe
what
But yeah you dont have to agree (:
what about hypsi and dryo
what do hypsi and dryo have to di with anything
bilbo, literally all of those animals are either clones or fodder or clones and fodder, or its shant

shant is way too big even considering some of the stuff and probably doesnt have much complete
Those were examples Skele. If you donāt like them itās okay cause the point was not adding the dinos I mentioned the point was the pyramid thingy
Bilbo
Nigersaurus clao and ourano are all exceedingly small compared to the preds you are saying swamps is flodded with
As well as teno
Those were examples Skele. If you donāt like them itās okay cause the point was not adding the dinos I mentioned the point was the pyramid thingy
you specifically mentioned large herbis
^
So?
what
Well ide assume you would give example of only large herbis if your saying add large herbis into the swamps
But who cares
What about it?
tenonto isnt a strictly swamp animal, sure its preferred food is there but thats about it, magys preferred food could be at the bottom of the fucking ocean and you wouldnt consider it an aquatic
Yeah who cares, as I said thatās not the point those dinos are not the point
k. just pointing out how you mentioned large herbis specifically and had some smaller guys in the mix
That shant suggestion was super cool for example, as well as para. It does not have to be nigersaurus or clao or ourano or anything that I said really
then what is the point, at the end we will have one hell of a foundation for the ecosystem then its collapses as we get to the top, OH WAIT fish and deino being alligator make it much more robust in general
:4Shrug: k. just pointing out how you mentioned large herbis specifically and had some smaller guys in the mix
Yeahh you are right my mistake. They are considered megafauna (most of the ones that i mentioned) but they are super tiny compared to deino or sucho for example
para update 4 wen
para update 5 wen

Para never when
Personally I liked a lot the suggestion to make shant a swamp herbi that migreates from time to time
Para never when
Never
see with only confirmed animals,
the swamp ecosystem starts off with tiny fish
then beipi minmi and austro
goes onto larger fish
then tenonto and bary-ish
then maybe plateo
then sucho deino
then spino and maybe shant
which really isnt bad in the grand scheme of things
I updated my feedback
their complain is the lack of herbis there
^
we have 4 smalls
1 mid who can work well
And 1 biggen who can work well
Well yeah but no. My complaint to be precise is that in the next few months the swamp will be a mess
not just swamps lol
4 smalls? is that korea minmi beipi and tenonto
Without a big herbivore to sustain second and third level consumers
spino can go wherever
it doesnt rely on swamp creatures
deino goes where things drink so will move every so often
well i mean deino waits for stuff to come get a drink doesnt specifically have to be aquatics/semi aquatics
sucho isnt going near swamps and will most likely wade so it wont have to deal with deino
spino can go piss off to the ocean and eat pteras, deino is "let me just eat these stegos cuz tenontos and beipis are boring"
sucho is a problem but stego is a solution
baryonyx would be more of a terrestrial hunter then aquatic one
Fish more of a suplment
ptera does the fuck it wants
all the carnis who live in swamps will do fine
So basically update 3 will be a deino vs sucho competition. And it should be but not entirely just that, am i explaining myself? There should be competition but balanced with herbivore hunting that keeps the carnisā bellies full from time to time
yeah, if we smack shant and plateo into the swamps all is well and good
what
stego will probably be killing more suchos than deinos will
So basically update 3 will be a deino vs sucho competition. And it should be but not entirely just that, am i explaining myself? There should be competition but balanced with herbivore hunting that keeps the carnisā bellies full from time to time
sucho eat feesh and smaller stuff near the water and deino just noms shit that comes to the waters edge or has to cross
bilbo, sucho isnt water locked like deino, it can piss off to small lakes and rivers to terrorize stegos and tenontos, deino is the only swamp locked animal
yeah thatās true. letās hope it be like that and not just a mess of jumping between deino genocide to sucho genocide xd
terrorize stegos
It will be suchos genociding everything that isnt deino or stego
bilbo, sucho isnt water locked like deino, it can piss off to small lakes and rivers to terrorize stegos and tenontos, deino is the only swamp locked animal
Wtf is sucho supposed to hunt on land man wdym
Lol what
Sucho will be fucking shit up on land
utahs got a kill
Sucho walks up
mine now
Then a Rex shows up, mine now
tenonto runnin from utah
sucho intercepts and slaps it
carno gang kills a steog, sucho swaggers up to the stinking carcass and just says, dibs
Sucho will finally be a god like I always wanted to be ~~ until rex ai comes in ~~
Then a Rex shows up, mine now
yes
ai rex will be doing that
Then a Rex shows up, mine now
@civic sparrow mfw rex isnt update 3
Is there not a Rex ai in three?
let sucho have his time to shine
sure why not. itās just my intuition and speculation. nothing i said (or you by that instance) will be a 100% reflected on the reality of the game
let sucho have his time to shine
^^^^ Please
sucho will be quite the oppressive force since they are so large only things that can kill em are deino and stego
Unless they keep sucho nerfed ofc
Downsize sucho to bary size

Beip size
also no
Watch them downsize sucho and never upsize him
sucho is just female spino

Maia is just female shant
Deino is swamp locked?
Thats kind of boring
issa croc my dude do you want it to fly
Do you want giant crocs running all over the island cus thatd look dumb af lol
Also ping/latency will just depend where you are relative to the server...there is no "boost" button. Just need to find a server that's hosting from a server machine closer to your location š
What do you think about my dino genocide?
@glass sundial they need to remake, new rig
@glass sundial They need to redo animations due to the new rig.
And apexes will come later
Except deino
Brachi anims are almost finished, at least locomotion ones
Also sucho is promised in trailer
stego too 
Most of the creatures on the roadmap were in the trailer
And the animations have to be redone due to new rigging
So, I dont see a problem especially when adding all the trailer creatures this early would he insane since most are apexs who would just be immortal among the current smalls
Why would they finish animations for animals they arent going to add any time soon
Ie: trailer animals
Why would they post a trailer with animals that arenāt going to be added anytime soon
You are saying finish ones promised in trailer, and most of them are in roadmap and also they need new anims
Yeah building hype has worked well for them haha
Deino comes fairly soon
Update 3 yes
Also ptera and stego, that many people wanted to see
Yeah vice, Iāve seen āPtera stego deino coming soonā 100 times in the past months
Also rex is coming soon, update 4, ik its AI, but its a rex
Why people lose hope that fast?Give them time
Vice
I lost hope when recode was released lol
They've used the word soon on shit that takes years
The word soon ain't exactly a popular one
But
Though playing the recode after seeing the trailer was pretty funny
They only need some time in evrima, legacy as hard because of code, but with new code they go faster
its true that theyre slow, but it doesnt mean they dont make progress every day
Animals found in updates 2-4 are now actually in more speedy development since preformence issues are out of the way mostly
I donāt care if itās soon but just donāt say itās soon when itās not
So, I expect another update in the next month or so
stego is
Before the end of the year we will surely have update 2
But dont say like memes that they need other 5 years to finish recode xD
Vice you dont know for sure as they donāt post exact release dates
I can estimate
Everyone estimates but there is no for sure
Yes, but theres something sure
Based on current development with the roadmap I expect the survivial roster to be equal of that of legacy's in about 6 months
One can hope :p
As the trailer suggests lol
devs arent lazy or useless, they do their job well
considering there current speed December is likely when update 2 will drop.
November
No one said they were lazy or useless, just want to make that clear Vice
meh they might be a bit late
they wont spend like legacy to make full recode
They started carno what?
A week ago and it's already halfway done
Dunno
in addition
they spend a long time between updates because while they work in update 2 they also work on update 4 and future ones
Sorry, whatās update 2?
they still have around 50 tasks to complete for update 2 at least 31. 21 for carno 10 for the secret and depending on what they do for the ai decides the date they finish it or not. i forgot hypsi needs some work
The next one
Cyn have you not seen the roadmap?
carno,stego,hypsi,AI utah and AI teno i think
Iāve seen their roadmap
Yes
Organize anything, together. Trello is a collaboration tool that organizes your projects into boards. In one glance, know what's being worked on, who's working on what, and where something is in a process.
I want to see wtf top secret is
Its prolly buildings
Um I donāt think theyāll be done with update 2 anytime soon
Update 1 had radio tower with secret stuff
Visual who makes human stuff had secret stuff in his devlog bit
But thatās just my estimate :p
Also, keep in mind that not all tasks have to be finished for the update to come out (ex. female skins and shit like that)
Female ones come in update 4 with nesting,right?
Yes
Iām thinking getting the mechanics right for it not the skins
No, but I'm just saying in general
i think update 2 will come out in the next month or so
Haha thatās very hopeful
what problem has hope?
well if they f**** this up they are gonna hurt
cyn what do you mean by stop making animations for animals that dont need them?
If they get to 2021 without update 2 theyre dumb, but it wont be the case because as i said devs arent dumb
lets hope
Lol vice
everything that was in legacy needs new animations if not a new rig in the case of carno.
Everything except carno and hypsi is practically done
i love this game but im waiting for pot to become good
I didnāt know remaking every already existing animation was needed thatās real rough for them lol
Stego? Done. Teno? Done. Utah? Done. AI? I think so
if you have to update the animations or make a completely new rig its just easier to re-do it from scratch.
stego is mostly done.
still missing turning and probably needs its attacks worked on.
yeah
Yeah they are not good at communicating with their player base so I didnāt know they needed to do that
Well let's think
We already know that stego is in testing already from screenshots of people playing it
Using that you can logically make the assumption of hypsi who has been done for a while is also in testing
Meaning that carno is the real last thing heavy in need that is there
Outside of secret thing but modeling buildings if that is what it is prolly is easier then balancing a creature
they said it for about 4 months straight.
Where?
Isle discussion lol
Iāve looked at all announcements
^
That ain't the spot to communicate ghatial
I donāt sit in isle discussion LOL
Not everyone constantly lurks islecord seeing info
announcements are only for super important things.
Debatable
they should try to put more in pins or announcments tbf.
Huh?
Interesting choices by them
in this server it seems announcements are only for the important stuff.
Iād think letting people know they are redoing EVERY existent animation is important
Telling people creatures require new rigging which may slow down additions due to making animations is important imo
they really should be pinning more.
But
That could also be done in the roadmap as it's own box
they should also link the roadmap with every update to it.
Isle discussion is not the place to let people know these things thatās so ridiculous
^
When I look at isle discussion itās just random banter from the player base
What happened to rav? Died? Or worse, became a beasts of 9500 fanboy?
he got a job
Oh
I look at announcements or phase 2 for these kinds of things
its good but sad at the same time
@glass sundial Carno has an updated new rig which it hasnāt had an update since practically before the game launched on steam
Plus animations such as locomotions kinda have to be redone for evrima
I do want Para in Update 4 though
para update 4 chad
- Para balances out the amount of carnis and herbis come update 4 if it were to be included. 2. Roadmap has a lot of hope dinos and para is one of them. 3. Para was specifically in the nesting part of hope so fits thematically. 4. Displays sexual dimorphism. 5. Adds another prey item for deinos and other carni groups.

Para can also be the first offensive not defensive herbivore
that to kinda
steg and teno are defense and hypsi and dryo are runners or something like that
Para just be
at anything
Para with trample being added with it would be great
Yes 2 people already @ d me that
5.2 tons Para hype 

Tubicens is god send
para literally the ultimate fit for update 4 
5.2 tons Para hype :SuckLeaf2:
Still lighter than acro![]()
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Para š
I like the tugging on a leash that steers your dinosaur in the right direction idea better. Basically losing all of your control is no from me. Well, it's not all of it, but you know what I mean. I feel like tribals should have slight control in steering, but not full on control
I like the tugging on a leash that steers your dinosaur in the right direction idea better. Basically losing all of your control is no from me. Well, it's not all of it, but you know what I mean. I feel like tribals should have slight control in steering, but not full on control
@ebon crypt thatās basically what I was saying.
But you tug on the leash by using the wasd keys
after reading that
From what I understood, the tribal can control the dinosaur completely with wasd
No no no no
I look forward to the day evrima gets pushed to main branch even more because it wont be called evrima anymore itll just be called the isle
"you have full control of your dinosaur" going off of this bit here, that's the impression that I'm getting
They control you if you let them but you have main control so if the tribal is pressing to go in one direction and you are wanting to go the other then it goes the direction you, the dinosaur, wants to go
Yes you have full control of the dinosaur you are playing as
The control that the rider gets is only for steering was what I meant. Making dinosaurs actually move forward and stuff is iffy imo
I mean you kick a horse some to make it go forwards and pull back to go backwards irl but ok
Yes, in real life. But keep in mind that a player is still controlling the dinosaur aswell. I can definitely see a rider pulling a maneuver where they purposefully throw their dinosaur off a cliff or something by suddenly changing the speed and direction
Wouldnt they both die 
Depends on how the game is programed, but also, humans will most likely not have a growth stage, dinos will
anyone like pachy. besides me
Eh, I find "taming" and riding iffy in the first place. It's kinda hard to make it where both players have a fair amount of control, but still, not a fan of that idea
Just donāt get caught as a dino ig
Easier said than done
I honestly canāt think of a perfect way to make riding either
But I do know if someone im not friends with is riding my dino near a cliff Iām gonna take control or buck them off
maybe only have ai tameable
Yeah, but if the devs want to make players indistinguishable from AI, then how would you know if it's AI or not?
you can again only tame ai so every tame is a risk between player or ai
you never know just gotta hope and pray
Eeh
i dunno just a counter to players not wanting to be tamed
maybe players can also choose to be tamed or not
and ai has no choice
The initial idea isn't "taming", it's beating dinosaurs into submition. This isn't Ark
fair enough
maybe have it be a fight and when players ( die/lose) they become the tamer's/beater's dino

Really is. It's especially hard since we know little about humans and how they'll play
exactly its difficult to come up with how to tame/ beat dinosaurs into submission
@rigid gate
Stegos tail is flexible enough to hit its own head
So a regular attack would be able to get a Utah off instead of some special ability being needed
Ia duck
Imagine trading bites with a utah (instead of slapping it) and expecting to win

i dont think ava needs to knockdown opponents
so explain what the hell its going to do against a utah
Troodon pounce 
Die bork
I think the parry should be what knocks over an animal
Givin the ava a small time chance to attack vitals or something
@strange wave who are you talking to
You
oh ok in that case the troodon would be able to speed the venom process then escape and track the utah i think that's kind of a weird question as that applies to all dinosaurs the troodon could pounce
I think the wth itll do against Utah had to do with you saying ava shouldnt get a knockdown
well in that case yeah the ava will probaly get killed unless its a 1v1
the question is why is the ava picking fights with utahs you should avoid them as much as possible as any small dino and if you have to you try to use your main attacks.
Cuz if ava is spotted itll get gimped
im sure an ava might kill one especially with a gore attack like trike
I dont expect ava to kill utah effectively due to the position of its horns
well maybe if they have an attack where the raise there head and swipe down they can hurt it
@arctic nimbus good idea
I think a parry which leads to a knockovet
Like the old dossier had
Would work much better and open timing for attacks for ava
maybe but i just think it would look kinda weird
maybe a ram would look cooler like it puts its head down and charges then it does a little knockback
like how your are saying
What if it were to stab something, then jerk its head down and spilling organs š³
@arctic nimbus literally put that there
and i also put that in there too blue, parry leads into small stun allowing ava to either bolt or throw it to the ground
My fault, didn't see that.
I like that nightvision idea. Reminds me of how pupils in RDR2 will dilate in dark environments
Details are dope.
honestly thought i would get more "its not a gameplay mechanic we dont need it yet
" and similar things
we dont need it since i doubt youll even be able to properly see your pupils dilate when its night
Eyeshine, tho.
@feral wedge your totally right, the new animation just has the carno go to town on the carcass
I hope we actually get a better implementation of eyeshine, thinking about it. Instead of just your whole eye glowing all the time.
And yeah Gecko, with small bodies especially it makes no sense.
I can understand it when eating something that won't move
But unless your sole intent is to just fuckin yeet a dryo or utah carcass, I don't see how that is sensible.
i think the head throwing animation could be used for animals more than 2 tons, but a different animation could be used for smaller things. like for things teno and below the current animation would just send them flying
then again, making two seperate animations for the same dinosaur might just be a little much
It would be really nice for a QoL thing, but I don't think it's worth the time investment currently.
There's too many things to work on.
i think once they get the game to a playable stage, like with bleed, bonebreak, day/night cycle, etc down and maybe just a few more dinosaurs, i think they can just go to work on everything
Hey, the thing about Carno drinking too fast, I actually don't mind that a drinking carno looks thirsty lol
I imagine it's got a ridiculous metabolism to be running around as much as it does. Just look at those thunder thighs.
I think it'd be cool if they had low thirst capacity so they had to constantly drink.
@strange wave whats so wrong about cave dens?
There really isnāt anything wrong with them in the discussion I had
I liked the cave dens idea
My only issue is if that rexs ai nest in caves commonly
Egg eating animals can use that to their advantage a bit much
i think any ai should be able to
I actually really like how the carno looks so thirsty, I imagine it would be after running around all day and it reminds me of running outside as kids and then coming inside for a drink as fast as possible to go outside and keep playing. as for the eat animation I do think that it looks like the thing is about to lose its upper half and blast into space or something. if the throw back weren't as dramatic and it did more pulling/shaking I think it would be great.
Maybe
Idk, I feel like nesting grounds would be better suited
Rex just feels like a cave den nester to me
Speaking of Nesting Grounds
I need to make my plateau suggestion soon for the map
Carnivores would probably pick a hidden spot to nest. Nesting ground is more of a herbi with a herd thing
Basically the Anti-Carno grasslands
Will ai nest?
Not plains
No idea, probably
We can ask the devs sooner or later that question actually
Itād be cool if it was like raining and you scurry into a cave, and then a big mamma Rex is in there 0-0
I donāt want a herbi rock plateau
But I do want a plateau similar to herbi rock, just larger(not taller)
And several of them
Or even grasslands that dip in, similar to the AE-001 grasslands
With the SOLE intentions being map design and anti-carno
Or maybe even help Carno idk
Intentionally anti-carno
I also have an idea for lone ponds too
Again, inspired by AE-001
Why make any place a specific herbi nesting spot
instead of making a bunch of diff places diff spots that can work well for diff spcies
cuz 1 mega herd nesting zone would just be a endless hotspot
Why make any place a specific herbi nesting spot
instead of making a bunch of diff places diff spots that can work well for diff spcies
@covert birch not for players
And not just herbivores either
Ok
so what would you do to make players not use it
Nesting Zones would be horrible for players, Iām talking preferred AI nesting zones
well i mena
Almost like Areas AI nests more, but randomly
And I see Rex being a cave den nester
Preferred nesting zones are confirmed
At least being more spcies specific
So i mean
why cant we just apply that to ai too
let em nest wherever players can
as long its their preferred biome
Never said it wont?
nvm forget it
@lime gulch I suggested and asked the devs that in the QnA
They said not until the game is basically finished or gets there iirc
Oh thanks! I'm obviously not looking for anything immediately and would be foolish to think all of these amazing ideas are going to be implemented so soon. It takes time
@jade plinth just a friendly reminder #general-feedback message
@sacred minnow he is not in evrima atm
Which is the actually being developed branch of the game since legacy aint due to fucked code
Why is everyone reacting negatively to the Carno drinking animation?
It looks fine
Some think its a bit fast and can be slowed down
I personally dont really care
my issues is with that first bit in the eating one
Why?
looks weird
they working on carno cuz dondi bad and scam š š š”
Yeah, cause when I'm eating, I want to throw my entire body to the side potentially exposing myself and attracting other predators

Add kidnapping donid š
.........kidnapping?
The Carno could simply carry itās food into a dense forest and eat it there, problem solved
@covert birch what is evrima i play carno today he is ingame
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Cuz rn carno is in the legacy branch of the game
The legacy branch of the game has a bunch of issues cauing it to not be able to be worked on any longer
Meaning they had to recode the game
Evrima is the playable beta branch of this recode
In evrima currently
There are 3 animals
Dryo tenonto and utah
ohh tenoto is new sure ? i dont know him
yes it is new
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the roadmap found in #roadmap-updates shows what they plan to add into evrima and in what order


yes
There is another map in evrima

evrima
To clarify, Angela.
the base game (the game as you know it) is no longer in development.
it's code is flawed and the team wanted to expand in ways that simply isn't possible with it, so, they started again.
Evrima is the new game.
ohh thanks i wanted ask where to buy evrima lol š
it's only a beta right now.. i wouldn't even call it that to be honest.
its free
evrima is free.
Yes
losing all control of my dinosaur b/c i got picked up is great idea
Def wont promote carebearing and trolling at all
Honestly, being able to carry away small dinosaurs and not immediately kill them could make it a bit more atmospheric. There was a similar suggestion like that before
I'm gonna combat log if they grab me lmao
ya, migration will be a lot easier
LOL
It would promote carebearing and trolling
So how about no
true, but I do agree that thereās a potential for misuse
As in, you still kill them, but just not immediately? Can't remember who made that, it went more in depth
you wont have too wait for the babys and their tiny legs
Just keep it to how it is now
if its small enough to carry it with ease you insta carry it and can run off
i dont think that the trolling thing your saying will happen, no herbie or carnis will let their babu on their own, if the baby get snachted, its the parents fault.
Alpha
I a utah will walk up to a dryo bab and carry it to the closest cliff
I a utah will use this to move around the dryo bab i wish to carebear
If you're to get carried, it should be by the same groupmates at the very least.
Then that removes the entire kidnapping idea
maybe it should be held off on if thereās so much discourse about it
I remember one time when I played Tenonto, before the group system was added, I stayed with a young juvi and kept a Utah from trying to kill it.
they already said they wont add it anyways
oh
Utahs are the reason Iām waiting for Carno to be completely done
ah well im sorry, i should have look of some thing before talking
F
As much as I like beating Utahs with Tenonto, I wanna be able to hunt them eventually
@jade plinth can easily be abused for trolling, cant be added
some people say that utah doesnt take any skill. and theyre right 
actually no, the new evrima utah takes skill because you cant just tailride. you actually have to plan where to bite, and when to strike and pounce and all that
answer
^
^
@mild walrus Why dont you just
Watch it for free then?
unless your referring to the whole need to be a sub to rewatch it
i am referring to that
ah well then i agree yea
when i go to rewatch it, its like "pay 4.99"
thats fuckin dumb
who would ever do that lol
multiple larger streamers do but like its still shit
ah gotcha
you can always ask around for the clips of the important bits though'
hopefully amorok is embarrassed lol
like for example he showed us deino calls/rugops call
i do follow isle updates on ig and they usually post it all there eventually
People tend to literally spam clips
yes
unless you want the WHOLE context, you do not need to spend a single dollar.
thats fine and all but i wonder who set it up to where it costs 5 dollars to watch lol, its a bad business move for a game that costs $20
you understand you dont need to sub right?
You need to sub to rewatch the stream post it being done synergy
I mainly just want the people who make the content to understand its stupid, and wrong
you can most likely find any important stuff under clips though so not much to worry there
You need to sub to rewatch the stream post it being done synergy
@covert birch its his channel he can do what he wants with it,he also dont need to stream at all
Imagine having to pay for extra stuff that most game devs out there don't even offer lol
Its his channel
he can do as he wishes
LOL what a great response, its his channel, he can do what he wants.. i could go get on onlyfans for less
doesnt make it any more or less scummy
It's very annoying when you miss a stream because timezones and then be faced with a paywall if I want to catchup and rewatch the VoD
and also its not like some super exciting stream, i dont care, i just simply want them to know its scummy
well that dosen't really matter
as far as anyone here knows you could only play 5 games lol
doesnt make it any more or less scummy
@covert birch there are people im subbed too that do the same thing that just play games but you dont even need to sub no one is forcing you too
It's very annoying when you miss a stream because timezones and then be faced with a paywall if I want to catchup and rewatch the VoD
^
username, multiple ppl have agreed with me here
Theres game streams
Then there are game development streams which can give critical info
But ofc
This one didnt do much
but missing out is still a pain
^
and being forced to pay b/c you missed out whether due to timezones or another factor
is also a pain
@covert birch there are people im subbed too that do the same thing that just play games but you dont even need to sub no one is forcing you too
@zinc anvil They don't stream for a living like others. It's literally a paywall for information about the development
this is why CC on youtube make content
but this isn't youtube
as far as im aware, the problems with that kidnapping mechanic would be the same as a "baby pick-up" mechanic. namely, what happens when the animal youre carrying grows too large to pick up, etc-- the devs have talked about the headache that causes from a coding standpoint before, im p sure
as far as the streaming issue goes, you aren't really missing much-- you can pay to rewatch it, or not spend a cent and get the same amount of crucial information from the clip highlights or recaps on youtube
and? lol
Im sure I could go on reddit and say something offensive and have 100s agree with me
and besides if you don't care then whats the point of your suggestion? (just curious)
you are not being forced to pay Blue, like I said, people literally pump out clips of stuff they find interesting
oh ik ik
and you are more likely than not ever going to watch the entire thing BUT check the clips.
but with the new DMCA shit coming out
clips aint gonna lways be there
DMCA mass delete 2 electric boogaloo is upon us
especially if you play any music on stream which amarok does
I mean sure
I'm all for full devstreams being free
but don't make it seem like they're a wrong asshole for not doing that
I just don't understand why they are paywalled
i bet username pays $5 a month
nah lol
I don't pay less than .50 cents a day
Used to with dondi but I never redid my sub
didnt get around to it
No one thinks it's some exorbitant price, there's just no reason for the paywall to be there. The devs aren't reliant on Twitch for their income.
I see how behind the scene stuff requires extra money
But I see how some may prefer for it to be free
fine
Yall are making a big deal over twitch?
Just discussing it
a while ago the vods used to be free but iirc something happened and they learned that people used the code for their own projects so they had to put them behind the sub wall. I could be absolutely wrong on that last part since it was years ago.
wow its such a requirement to see dev streams when theres tons of people making clips and highlights of the interesting things on twitch and youtube
well then stop discussing it cause this is pointless
thats what i was thinking mep. like occasionally ama brings up shit he doesnt want to and doesnt want most people to see potentially.
I can discuss what I want.
its pointless to
Like 99% of the discussions here.
youre not wrong lol
i mean all the interesting stuff is on youtube vids and clips anyways
literally
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401693816777867265/769197920234504212 like look one already
yeah people here are very good at making highlights of the streams :)
the person who made the feedback proved theyd only watch like 2 seconds of the stream anyway "to just watch a guy chat and click some things"
No one is claiming its some catastrophe, it's just stupid
how
its fine
no one genuinely wants to watch through a whole stream anyways
this
I do 
bet
like there are already clips and videos showing the only interesting stuff
If no one wanted to watch streams they wouldn't stream at all, right. People tune into the streams and watch them fully
eh for the isle wise not much
most just wanna see the occasional piece of gameplay or info
If no one wanted to watch streams they wouldn't stream at all, right. People tune into the streams and watch them fully
@keen crypt not a chance
people tune in for interesting stuff, you can tell cause when the devs start working the stream loses more than half of its viewers
and it RISES back up when the devs showcase stuff
There's still people there tho. I don't see why they deserve money for something no one cares about then
there is still people there, either waiting, tabbed out or talking in chat
If people didn't care then why is this discussion still going on lol
this is why i like amarok and fos
they intentionally make the stream as unboring as possible yet still work
fos plays with us after his streams and amarok plays around a little
bryan is chill
I agree, but I can see this will go nowhere as with most topics. Not really a big deal anyway
dude even people like igp tune into his streams cause of the music lol
lets be real here

tenonto eyes be like
Its not the tail that's the problem, its just such a large animal.
It would need to slow down because the bones in its ankles would crack for sure if it made a 20 degree turn moving at full speed
I'm pretty they just slapped utah movement on carno so it's probably a placeholder and will get change later
personally. idc about the whole pay to rewatch thing i do think it's dumb but whatever it's not like that money specifically is going to the game, it's more going to the individual so who cares
That rage Carno emoji is becoming quite popular
Carno doesn't have many exited emotes. It's practically either that or 
I use that Carno emoji to showcase my annoyance with impatience
I get that Carnoās animations look rather.....off, but theyāre still working on it

Plus it needs to be remembered these dinosaurs are genetically modified. Apollo Engineering, as in āAEā, does have relevance in the game
Thatāll take a while
Last we heard for hypers was from paradym pre issues
And he said "we dont have a system concept in place for it"
Plus I also heard of something called the āMatriarchā
thats a whole nother ballpark
the thing is like
A strain that just keeps eating and growing
The concept they previously planned for Deino?
I meant the constant growth concept
Your feedback is admirable Fluff, it is
But to put it technically, these dinosaurs are not meant to be as accurate as their genetic templates
They may look like them, but theyāre not entirely like them
It looks like the eyebrows are maybe gonna be part of animations? Like they flare out for intimidation or mating attraction. At least thatās what it looks like in the art
kissen said they were there to block the sun from your eyes when you fish
so seems like a more permanent thing
could also be dimorphism
Maybe theyāll only pop out when you enter the fishing stance that was talked about?
maybe'
posting feedback in sections and hoping someone doesn't post their feedback halfway through wheat.
risky
called it wheat. called it.
Nah its fine, people can react however they want to it LOL
I mean would making the head shape more accurate destroy the design?
No.
Wheat they said they called someone posting mid your feedback
eh?
pap moment
speaking of realism n stuff though
would the curve in the jaw even be noticeable in the animal with the flesh?
or hell ingame even
It's minor. No one, except for other dino nerds would bother to look at the animal closely like that.
Oh HMM
or would flesh be blocking it
That view I like
fish doesnt help either
I actually really like @mellow maple's feedback
I thought that the issue was with the snout being made too long, but you seem more informed than me so I'll agree with the snout actually just being too thin
I do like the semi-webbed feet!
it would make some sense, and I think itās a good niche statement
I should emphasize this
Also do not let my stinky opinion be the only way to decide how you think of the animal. Just like how I think Isle Spino is mega flawed but people can clearly still enjoy it.
I'm not. Perhaps I'm too accustomed to the old model, but the new snout looked weird to me immediately upon first glance.
Its a drawing
Not a model
And its obviously not meant to be the exact proportions for the model
old model
@molten tulip
The drawings are used as the base for the model to be designed off.
Also, what's the point of concept art if not to be a base for the final model?
If that were the case it would be in a distinct default pose
As kissen said theres still rounds of feedback and touching up the art goes through, that concept is a feel for the character and personality of the dino
side view is def wierd,
also just wanna post this here lol
idk if thats the best way to compare sizes
The other views look fine
not comparing sizes, just for ppl to compare these two designs
I can agree with the face being long but otherwise most of tge critique is just nitpicking
yeah but the sizes being off can make some proportions seem large or smaller on one specific design than it actually is
the neck tho 
The other views look fine
@outer condor It's really odd, isn't it?
Yea that sideview is weird
@mellow maple Does the skull look better to you in the other two views provided?
chad frontview vs virgin sideview
anyone else have a problem with the neck?
me xd
It's a little long but I'm fine with it
This view is pretty close to being from the side or the top of the snout. It looks way more normal here
idk I think the shape is just too defined, as if there isn't even any feathers there
I think the neck would look better if it wasn't shrinkwrapped
ye jenkens I agree
agree
Here's the concept
However, I would like to bring up Austro's body is still mostly unknown. This is filled in by phylogeny.
I don't think the perspective alone would make it look so wonky
ye but if we dont act now it might become the side view
I want austro a bit more muscular and not as thin as a small heron
look at austors neck skeleton
I do like austro's toe claw and webbed feet
same
ye but if we dont act now it might become the side view
I want austro a bit more muscular and not as thin as a small heron
Also this
can we all agree on the feet at least
Yes
I also like the tail its better than old one
Yea the feet and tail are chad
That's my main problem with it
also, what are those lil eye flaps
They're weird but I'm fine with them
shade from sun
Probably that ^^
i think the foreclaws should at least be slightly webbed as well
lest it swims like a goose or swan, which would be odd imo
@jade schooner thank you! penguin was the only water bird I could think of, and your suggestion is better!
thought the new austro concept was supposed to be a stork for sec
can we keep the feet tho I really like the feet
It's mainly proportions that are the issue.
Hrm, i'ma add on a lil bit more. Forgot some points.
I can't say whether it was unlikely Austroraptor had webbed feet or not, because there's no fossils of the feet. There's nothing with webbed feet contradicting it.
The neck and head region tho are a major contradiction.
Honestly, I couldn't really care less if it's inaccurate, I just think it looks weird, and not in the good way.
imo its mostly the head
It reminds me way too much of Coelophysis
honestly, at least it wasnāt the brokeback anky
I personally think an accurate head would look better on austro
It's one of the better ones tho, I'll give it that
i honestly think we should see it rendered first as well
Anky's biggest issue was its back. that alone broke it for some many people.
Oh and that weird rhino looking shit
arm tumors
whereās the spino
No editing a model is much harder than changing a concept
you can make it truer to its IRL counterpart but still keep that look of a swan
yeah the austro doesnt need as a much tweaking as other designs imo
This god forsaken mess

It's cool, yeah.
Good model just generic
bruh
But that shit belongs in a kaiju movie
If i had give the austro a grade for how well it represents the animal? it'd be like a low B
B-, it hits some of the major key aspects of Austro, but its weird looking.
honestly, no. That's why concept art dinos are not to be taken for granted
Head region especially
The tail was more fin-like but became crocodilian instead.
cause I really liked that concept pic, it blends aspects of old spino and new spino
dang
This also goes for the sail, which also a major gripe I had with it.
Let me get a dart board as an example.
LOL
still, i donāt like seeing this much discourse over something so fixable and minor
Where's theri 
I forgot
isle theri cursed
in between anky and austro
No pot belly 
4 toes
the dnet
I am often told that accuracy will not matter for this game, and this will always be true to a point. But that gives off the implication of not even trying. What makes it a dinosaur then? What's the point of a calling it that animal if it's not supposed to be that animal. It's such a fucking contradiction that I never can wrap my head around.
Austro at least looks like an Austro so, there's that.
if its recognizable as said animal
its fine
Like spino if a look at it
You still see spino, even if 2000 spino or not
True.
anky is too
To the average non dino nerd at least
then you get hypsi
But every single dino of that size/shape look the same so not much to do there
See, what I will give austro credit for is taking its semi-aquatic likely hood and amplifying it. That's hella cool.
well
not like swimming but
piscivorous diet.
it would be nice to see it be able to at least swim better than other creatures
or dive for a short period to catch fish
it would look so graceful š„ŗ
toning down the anorexia =/ removing all character given to the animal, make its neck a bit thicker and give it slightly more body fluff and its just a downright better concept in general
I just don't like the way the concept looks as of right now, I'm a fan of the images I posted in feedback way more.
i like those austros in general you posted but idk if they are following the concept they wanna do with this new austro as like a sneaky fox/heron like thing
It looks too much like a stork/heron hybrid thing, I like the normal raptor look with the skinny beak and whatnot.
Something close to the legacy version.
ok i guess
its just unlikely for that to happen since they have a certain personality and concept for austro in mind. potential design changes should either not really impact these or add onto it to complement it
like jaffads ideas to make more sections of its feathers more rugged
The concept art and actual model are often super different when it comes to the isle. I'm sure it'll be improved on, or is subject to change. It's not a bad concept, don't get me wrong.
ye i know
i've noticed that a lot of the more recent designs have had massive spikes in character, rather than the basic, "im a dinosaur with teeth and i roar"
Like hella said, it's up to the devs in the end.

I'm fine with austro's new design I just rather they change it's head to a more accurate austro head shape
Oof yeah]
The dent in the middle of it
I love the new austros main body, but the neck and head are weird. I dislike how high it's head stands up, same with the Utah
Anky's dent š¤¢
God
I feel like they're trying to go for a "realism but still have a unique quirky characteristic"
I don't like that
Make it look normal, not over the top and wacky
I think the issue is the head is too large for the body
fix that
and make the head less long and it works
czu rn if you check
Agreed
the head is just the main issue that fucks up other things
@maiden holly Since you reacted on my suggestion, what's your input on it if you have any.
The neck looks like a stick
This was made by frog something iirc
and is great
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/604816349243506688/769357764852973638/image0.jpg?width=1109&height=676
That's not bad
Froglegs was who made it
head looks a bit too big still
Much better than long nose
Yes
the head at least isnt the length of the body anymore fulgore
the side view is just fucked
^
the other angles have a shorter face
true
Yeah agreed
The top view looks much better
It's hard to draw it perfectly on every angle
Yes
I should've worded my feedback a bit differently, but who cares
english is not my first
oh no worries, im all for criticism and discussions
Oh yeah
Would love to see that
Hm
I give up trying to write this
Generic skinny utah raptor oooooooo
That'd be amazing
Fluffy/feathered skin for raptors, etc.
Glad they're adding feathers to the austro
Or rather
adding more feathers
@barren zephyr eh, i just think the isle shouldnāt always be exactly realistic
I would rather the dinos having a unique look ngl
^
I just like the style of the realistic one a bit more, the head and neck and such
Body of the concept art austro is better
Preferences
Yes
Austies is a horrible term and you should be subject to multiple forms of Roman torture
lmfao
I can get behind this fictionalized Austro, just like the Tenonto, Spino, Troodon, etc. (not the Anky, though, just please please fix that poor thingās back).
Z3RK3R die
that austro is perfect
Honestly, after seeing Frog's edit, I can't go back to the wings on the original concept.
That austro is legit perfection. It keeps the same character of the isle one while not looking starved to death.
I'ma go make a side by comparison image, be right back.
The concept art austro doesnt really look like a austro tbh. thats why i likes frogs edit because it looks like a austro but unique at the same time
austros concept art is pretty much a halskaraptor
For comparison.
The fan one is just so much better proportioned. It's recognisable as an austro and doesn't look starved to death.
