#general-feedback-discussion

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outer condor
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I want diplocaulus and beelzebufo as Ai

narrow ingot
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Also can be an a.i predator for minmi too

outer condor
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Beipi's and minmi's main predator dondiSmile

narrow ingot
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Yes^šŸ˜­šŸ˜…

paper oriole
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Beez would be cool ai

valid elk
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@paper oriole I do like the idea of amphibians like that, but, iirc, the devs wanted to add a small river mosasaur.

paper oriole
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Bary also seems like a wader not an aquatic @shut owl

silver zephyr
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bary is more terrestrial if anything

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i wouldnt even say a wader

paper oriole
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Bary looks like hed also eat a healthy mix of fish and small dinos

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Not a true specialist

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If they are already planning a small river mosa thats alright i guess lol

valid elk
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Yeah. Sucho and Spino are specialists, Bary is sort of a bipedal land croc

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Not literally, don't use the FK Baryonyx

frigid cosmos
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tf was that

wary sparrow
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Sry I was on the wrong discord channel and didn’t notice

frigid cosmos
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ok

paper oriole
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Aren't the human bases supposed to have a deterring effect around them to ward dinos off? Iirc nested dinos won't get it because they don't have the chips unlike spawned dinos.

Also upvoting your own suggestion dondiYikes

silver zephyr
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just add stuff lol

vast wolf
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that moment when add strains to an ecosystem with 3 playables.

outer condor
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Now delete_thisdelete_thisdelete_thisdelete_thisdelete_thisdelete_thisdelete_thisdelete_this

outer condor
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😭

frigid cosmos
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when

barren zephyr
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Mistakes were madeā„¢ļø

molten tulip
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Yeah let's make a game where the dinosaurs glide around t posing because obviously animation isn't worthwhile

silver zephyr
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animators doing their job smh

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lmao they just left

outer condor
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Lol

silver zephyr
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pussy lmao

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i genuinely dont get some people

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"wtf animators stop animating NOOOOOOOOOOOO"

outer condor
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Stop tweaking animations 😔🤬🤬😔

molten tulip
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Theyre impatient and inconsiderate of others is all

covert birch
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Mfw cant add content like new dinos without animating them

silver zephyr
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also that

molten tulip
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Literally some people cant grasp the fact that making a high quality game takes years with a group of less than 10

silver zephyr
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i get being mad at development or whatever

molten tulip
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And then if they were to release a low quality buggy version they'd be angry

silver zephyr
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but then there is just straight up ignorance

outer condor
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What you can't let the animators do their job!!!! 😔🤬🤬

silver zephyr
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guys lets make bryan and kissen start coding

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no more animations

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would be poggers

covert birch
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Yep

molten tulip
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CODE

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PUT THE NUMBERS IN THE COMPUTER

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DO IT NOW

still quail
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@lilac sapphire you do know that the animators are different from the programmers, right?

silver zephyr
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moose they left

still quail
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Oh lmao

arctic nimbus
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They're probably writing an essay on r/theisle on how we assaulted them

outer condor
silver zephyr
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imagine unironically being that dude typing that up thinking its funny. puts it in feedback and leaves.

molten tulip
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They put a clown emoji on my unfunny meme

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Absolutely terrible game

silver zephyr
outer condor
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Isle redditors rise up

civic sparrow
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Imagine wanting good animations

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I’m fine with Dinos just sliding around and shit šŸ˜Ž

covert birch
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I think the reason the word tweaking is there is due to the fact this person thinks you would just be able to put the legacy animations in evrima

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even though evrima would require new animations due to animals needing new rigging

silver zephyr
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yep

covert birch
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@gray loom That is happening already
But will be optional

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there will basically be an elder growth stage you need to do certain tasks to be able to get

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you go super strong for a bit then progressively get weaker
Then you die of age

Dying of age = get perks for next life

paper oriole
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ā€œApexes have it hard in legacyā€ logs into legacy server to find 2/3rds of the population is gigas and rexes

covert birch
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Buff
he was referring to solo apexs

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which is true they do have it rough b/c the apex mega packs eat them

mint sonnet
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Pretty sure an aging feature is already planned
You guys remember the elder system n all that

strange wave
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yeah, its optional because people dont want to be punished for being good at surviving

molten tulip
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Optional dying is cool especially when it gives you buffs in your next life

silver zephyr
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para for update 4 is fine

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although who knows if its semi aquatic

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shant is way too big

strange wave
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@barren zephyr the only one remotely anywhere near addition is para, and para being a swamp animal is just it as fodder for the 3 predators its size and larger, shant is the only other confirmed animal there in need of a niche and its further off that acro and alberto

silver zephyr
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also that

covert birch
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Ide much prefer shant to be a migrational animal who goes to swamps for like one of many shifting preferred food sources

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since unlike para it can at least survive the preds there

silver zephyr
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googling claosaurus

strange wave
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and flooded with predators? so sucho and deino are the only 2 with tenonto and beipi as herbi and "herbi" sure there is one fuck ton of a size difference but oh well

silver zephyr
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i think the suggestion was just to plug ourano

covert birch
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I feel like if you went more into depth on how those animals would just be clones of current ones and how they would play into aquatic environments (excluding ourano and anantoitan who are teno and shant clones)

silver zephyr
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clao is like a small hadro

covert birch
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ourano just being a teno clone b/c they are tossing teno in the swamps for some reason

silver zephyr
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nigersaurus is cool but it probably wont be added cause of people and haha funny name

covert birch
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weird love for hadros in that suggestion too
suprised koreaceratops was skipped

silver zephyr
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i dont want lurdu but im suprised that wasnt even mentioned

strange wave
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yeah, korea is one animal with any chance of a unique semi aquatic niche

covert birch
strange wave
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post the ourano size...

covert birch
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lemme get the good chart lol

outer condor
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Dryo sized hadro poggers

silver zephyr
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nigersaurus isnt even that big either

covert birch
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its like slightly bigger thyen magy sized

silver zephyr
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tenonto then

covert birch
silver zephyr
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size wise i guess

strange wave
covert birch
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nigersaurus could actually work as a magy skin imo

strange wave
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it 100% could

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female magy with a vacuum mouth

covert birch
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gulper eel magy

silver zephyr
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imo the only thing i agree with is para update 4

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half of those arent even big

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2 are clones

barren zephyr
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It’s definitely not smol tho

silver zephyr
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what is

covert birch
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Its small compared to the preds your sayign swamps is flooded with

barren zephyr
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hypsi and dryo maybe

silver zephyr
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what

barren zephyr
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But yeah you dont have to agree (:

silver zephyr
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what about hypsi and dryo

covert birch
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what do hypsi and dryo have to di with anything

barren zephyr
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what is
^

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I thought you were asking what is small imo

strange wave
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bilbo, literally all of those animals are either clones or fodder or clones and fodder, or its shant

silver zephyr
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shant is way too big even considering some of the stuff and probably doesnt have much complete

barren zephyr
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Those were examples Skele. If you don’t like them it’s okay cause the point was not adding the dinos I mentioned the point was the pyramid thingy

covert birch
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Bilbo
Nigersaurus clao and ourano are all exceedingly small compared to the preds you are saying swamps is flodded with

barren zephyr
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As well as teno

covert birch
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yes

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teno too

silver zephyr
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Those were examples Skele. If you don’t like them it’s okay cause the point was not adding the dinos I mentioned the point was the pyramid thingy
you specifically mentioned large herbis

covert birch
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^

barren zephyr
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So?

silver zephyr
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what

covert birch
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Well ide assume you would give example of only large herbis if your saying add large herbis into the swamps
But who cares

barren zephyr
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What about it?

strange wave
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tenonto isnt a strictly swamp animal, sure its preferred food is there but thats about it, magys preferred food could be at the bottom of the fucking ocean and you wouldnt consider it an aquatic

barren zephyr
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Yeah who cares, as I said that’s not the point those dinos are not the point

silver zephyr
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4Shrug k. just pointing out how you mentioned large herbis specifically and had some smaller guys in the mix

barren zephyr
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That shant suggestion was super cool for example, as well as para. It does not have to be nigersaurus or clao or ourano or anything that I said really

strange wave
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then what is the point, at the end we will have one hell of a foundation for the ecosystem then its collapses as we get to the top, OH WAIT fish and deino being alligator make it much more robust in general

barren zephyr
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:4Shrug: k. just pointing out how you mentioned large herbis specifically and had some smaller guys in the mix

Yeahh you are right my mistake. They are considered megafauna (most of the ones that i mentioned) but they are super tiny compared to deino or sucho for example

silver zephyr
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para update 4 wen

strange wave
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para update 5 wen

silver zephyr
outer condor
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Para never when

barren zephyr
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Personally I liked a lot the suggestion to make shant a swamp herbi that migreates from time to time

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Para never when
Never

strange wave
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see with only confirmed animals,
the swamp ecosystem starts off with tiny fish
then beipi minmi and austro
goes onto larger fish
then tenonto and bary-ish
then maybe plateo
then sucho deino
then spino and maybe shant
which really isnt bad in the grand scheme of things

barren zephyr
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I updated my feedback

covert birch
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their complain is the lack of herbis there

barren zephyr
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^

covert birch
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we have 4 smalls
1 mid who can work well
And 1 biggen who can work well

barren zephyr
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Well yeah but no. My complaint to be precise is that in the next few months the swamp will be a mess

covert birch
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not just swamps lol

strange wave
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4 smalls? is that korea minmi beipi and tenonto

covert birch
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suchos gonna rule the island

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3*

barren zephyr
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Without a big herbivore to sustain second and third level consumers

covert birch
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spino can go wherever

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it doesnt rely on swamp creatures

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deino goes where things drink so will move every so often

silver zephyr
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well i mean deino waits for stuff to come get a drink doesnt specifically have to be aquatics/semi aquatics

covert birch
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sucho isnt going near swamps and will most likely wade so it wont have to deal with deino

strange wave
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spino can go piss off to the ocean and eat pteras, deino is "let me just eat these stegos cuz tenontos and beipis are boring"
sucho is a problem but stego is a solution

covert birch
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baryonyx would be more of a terrestrial hunter then aquatic one
Fish more of a suplment
ptera does the fuck it wants

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all the carnis who live in swamps will do fine

barren zephyr
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So basically update 3 will be a deino vs sucho competition. And it should be but not entirely just that, am i explaining myself? There should be competition but balanced with herbivore hunting that keeps the carnis’ bellies full from time to time

strange wave
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yeah, if we smack shant and plateo into the swamps all is well and good

covert birch
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what

strange wave
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stego will probably be killing more suchos than deinos will

silver zephyr
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So basically update 3 will be a deino vs sucho competition. And it should be but not entirely just that, am i explaining myself? There should be competition but balanced with herbivore hunting that keeps the carnis’ bellies full from time to time
sucho eat feesh and smaller stuff near the water and deino just noms shit that comes to the waters edge or has to cross

strange wave
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bilbo, sucho isnt water locked like deino, it can piss off to small lakes and rivers to terrorize stegos and tenontos, deino is the only swamp locked animal

barren zephyr
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yeah that’s true. let’s hope it be like that and not just a mess of jumping between deino genocide to sucho genocide xd

civic sparrow
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terrorize stegos

covert birch
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It will be suchos genociding everything that isnt deino or stego

barren zephyr
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bilbo, sucho isnt water locked like deino, it can piss off to small lakes and rivers to terrorize stegos and tenontos, deino is the only swamp locked animal
Wtf is sucho supposed to hunt on land man wdym

covert birch
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Lol what

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Sucho will be fucking shit up on land

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utahs got a kill
Sucho walks up

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mine now

civic sparrow
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Then a Rex shows up, mine now

covert birch
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tenonto runnin from utah
sucho intercepts and slaps it

strange wave
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carno gang kills a steog, sucho swaggers up to the stinking carcass and just says, dibs

outer condor
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Sucho will finally be a god like I always wanted to be ~~ until rex ai comes in ~~

covert birch
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Then a Rex shows up, mine now
yes
ai rex will be doing that

strange wave
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Then a Rex shows up, mine now
@civic sparrow mfw rex isnt update 3

civic sparrow
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Is there not a Rex ai in three?

silver zephyr
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dondiSmile let sucho have his time to shine

barren zephyr
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sure why not. it’s just my intuition and speculation. nothing i said (or you by that instance) will be a 100% reflected on the reality of the game

outer condor
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dondiSmile let sucho have his time to shine
^^^^ Please

covert birch
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sucho will be quite the oppressive force since they are so large only things that can kill em are deino and stego

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Unless they keep sucho nerfed ofc

outer condor
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Downsize sucho to bary size

silver zephyr
civic sparrow
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Beip size

silver zephyr
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also no

outer condor
silver zephyr
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sucho is just female spino

outer condor
civic sparrow
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Maia is just female shant

barren zephyr
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Deino is swamp locked?

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Thats kind of boring

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issa croc my dude do you want it to fly

paper oriole
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Do you want giant crocs running all over the island cus thatd look dumb af lol

frigid cosmos
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when u react with šŸ“Œ šŸ’Æ and šŸ”” to ur own feedback

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mf

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ok

devout bison
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Also ping/latency will just depend where you are relative to the server...there is no "boost" button. Just need to find a server that's hosting from a server machine closer to your location šŸ˜…

barren zephyr
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What do you think about my dino genocide?

barren zephyr
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Nice

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xD

barren zephyr
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@glass sundial they need to remake, new rig

arctic nimbus
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@glass sundial They need to redo animations due to the new rig.

barren zephyr
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And apexes will come later

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Except deino

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Brachi anims are almost finished, at least locomotion ones

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Also sucho is promised in trailer

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stego too dondiTroll

covert birch
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Most of the creatures on the roadmap were in the trailer

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And the animations have to be redone due to new rigging

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So, I dont see a problem especially when adding all the trailer creatures this early would he insane since most are apexs who would just be immortal among the current smalls

glass sundial
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I never said to add the new dinos early Bluedragon

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Idk where you got that haha

covert birch
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Why would they finish animations for animals they arent going to add any time soon

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Ie: trailer animals

glass sundial
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Why would they post a trailer with animals that aren’t going to be added anytime soon

barren zephyr
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You are saying finish ones promised in trailer, and most of them are in roadmap and also they need new anims

covert birch
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Cuz they wanna build hype

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Which I hope everyone agrees was idiotic

glass sundial
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Yeah building hype has worked well for them haha

barren zephyr
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Deino comes fairly soon

covert birch
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Update 3 yes

barren zephyr
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Also ptera and stego, that many people wanted to see

glass sundial
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Yeah vice, I’ve seen ā€œPtera stego deino coming soonā€ 100 times in the past months

barren zephyr
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Also rex is coming soon, update 4, ik its AI, but its a rex

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Why people lose hope that fast?Give them time

covert birch
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Vice

glass sundial
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I lost hope when recode was released lol

covert birch
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They've used the word soon on shit that takes years

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The word soon ain't exactly a popular one

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But

glass sundial
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Though playing the recode after seeing the trailer was pretty funny

barren zephyr
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They only need some time in evrima, legacy as hard because of code, but with new code they go faster

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its true that theyre slow, but it doesnt mean they dont make progress every day

covert birch
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Animals found in updates 2-4 are now actually in more speedy development since preformence issues are out of the way mostly

glass sundial
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I don’t care if it’s soon but just don’t say it’s soon when it’s not

covert birch
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So, I expect another update in the next month or so

barren zephyr
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stego is

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Before the end of the year we will surely have update 2

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But dont say like memes that they need other 5 years to finish recode xD

glass sundial
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Vice you dont know for sure as they don’t post exact release dates

barren zephyr
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I can estimate

glass sundial
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Everyone estimates but there is no for sure

barren zephyr
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Yes, but theres something sure

covert birch
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Based on current development with the roadmap I expect the survivial roster to be equal of that of legacy's in about 6 months

glass sundial
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One can hope :p

covert birch
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As the trailer suggests lol

barren zephyr
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devs arent lazy or useless, they do their job well

rigid gate
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considering there current speed December is likely when update 2 will drop.

covert birch
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November

glass sundial
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No one said they were lazy or useless, just want to make that clear Vice

rigid gate
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meh they might be a bit late

barren zephyr
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they wont spend like legacy to make full recode

covert birch
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They started carno what?
A week ago and it's already halfway done

glass sundial
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Dunno

barren zephyr
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in addition

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they spend a long time between updates because while they work in update 2 they also work on update 4 and future ones

glass sundial
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Sorry, what’s update 2?

rigid gate
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they still have around 50 tasks to complete for update 2 at least 31. 21 for carno 10 for the secret and depending on what they do for the ai decides the date they finish it or not. i forgot hypsi needs some work

barren zephyr
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The next one

covert birch
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Cyn have you not seen the roadmap?

barren zephyr
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carno,stego,hypsi,AI utah and AI teno i think

glass sundial
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I’ve seen their roadmap

covert birch
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Then what do ya mean by what's update 2

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Like what's in it?

glass sundial
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Yes

arctic nimbus
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barren zephyr
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I want to see wtf top secret is

covert birch
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Its prolly buildings

glass sundial
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Um I don’t think they’ll be done with update 2 anytime soon

covert birch
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Update 1 had radio tower with secret stuff

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Visual who makes human stuff had secret stuff in his devlog bit

glass sundial
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But that’s just my estimate :p

barren zephyr
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late november or december

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thats my veredict

ebon crypt
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Also, keep in mind that not all tasks have to be finished for the update to come out (ex. female skins and shit like that)

barren zephyr
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Female ones come in update 4 with nesting,right?

covert birch
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Yes

glass sundial
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I’m thinking getting the mechanics right for it not the skins

ebon crypt
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No, but I'm just saying in general

rigid gate
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i think update 2 will come out in the next month or so

glass sundial
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Haha that’s very hopeful

barren zephyr
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what problem has hope?

rigid gate
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well if they f**** this up they are gonna hurt

vast wolf
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cyn what do you mean by stop making animations for animals that dont need them?

glass sundial
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Not necessarily

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I’ve never heard them talk about needing a new rig

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So

barren zephyr
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If they get to 2021 without update 2 theyre dumb, but it wont be the case because as i said devs arent dumb

rigid gate
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lets hope

glass sundial
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Lol vice

vast wolf
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everything that was in legacy needs new animations if not a new rig in the case of carno.

barren zephyr
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Everything except carno and hypsi is practically done

rigid gate
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i love this game but im waiting for pot to become good

glass sundial
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I didn’t know remaking every already existing animation was needed that’s real rough for them lol

barren zephyr
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Stego? Done. Teno? Done. Utah? Done. AI? I think so

vast wolf
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if you have to update the animations or make a completely new rig its just easier to re-do it from scratch.

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stego is mostly done.

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still missing turning and probably needs its attacks worked on.

rigid gate
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yeah

glass sundial
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Yeah they are not good at communicating with their player base so I didn’t know they needed to do that

covert birch
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Well let's think
We already know that stego is in testing already from screenshots of people playing it
Using that you can logically make the assumption of hypsi who has been done for a while is also in testing
Meaning that carno is the real last thing heavy in need that is there

Outside of secret thing but modeling buildings if that is what it is prolly is easier then balancing a creature

vast wolf
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they said it for about 4 months straight.

glass sundial
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Where?

covert birch
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Isle discussion lol

glass sundial
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I’ve looked at all announcements

vast wolf
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^

covert birch
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That ain't the spot to communicate ghatial

glass sundial
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I don’t sit in isle discussion LOL

covert birch
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Not everyone constantly lurks islecord seeing info

vast wolf
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announcements are only for super important things.

glass sundial
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Debatable

vast wolf
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they should try to put more in pins or announcments tbf.

barren zephyr
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Huh?

glass sundial
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Interesting choices by them

vast wolf
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in this server it seems announcements are only for the important stuff.

glass sundial
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I’d think letting people know they are redoing EVERY existent animation is important

covert birch
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Telling people creatures require new rigging which may slow down additions due to making animations is important imo

vast wolf
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they really should be pinning more.

covert birch
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But
That could also be done in the roadmap as it's own box

vast wolf
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they should also link the roadmap with every update to it.

glass sundial
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Isle discussion is not the place to let people know these things that’s so ridiculous

covert birch
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99% of infi we receive is in there lol

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If only rav was still ere

vast wolf
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^

silver zephyr
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I mean to be fair its them basically reacting to what we are asking or saying

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dondiSucc rav

glass sundial
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When I look at isle discussion it’s just random banter from the player base

barren zephyr
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What happened to rav? Died? Or worse, became a beasts of 9500 fanboy?

silver zephyr
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he got a job

barren zephyr
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Oh

glass sundial
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I look at announcements or phase 2 for these kinds of things

barren zephyr
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its good but sad at the same time

sick crescent
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@glass sundial Carno has an updated new rig which it hasn’t had an update since practically before the game launched on steam

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Plus animations such as locomotions kinda have to be redone for evrima

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I do want Para in Update 4 though

silver zephyr
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para update 4 chad

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  1. Para balances out the amount of carnis and herbis come update 4 if it were to be included. 2. Roadmap has a lot of hope dinos and para is one of them. 3. Para was specifically in the nesting part of hope so fits thematically. 4. Displays sexual dimorphism. 5. Adds another prey item for deinos and other carni groups.
sick crescent
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Para can also be the first offensive not defensive herbivore

silver zephyr
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that to kinda

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steg and teno are defense and hypsi and dryo are runners or something like that

sick crescent
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Para just be Run at anything

covert birch
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Para with trample being added with it would be great

sick crescent
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Para is gonna be a lot bigger than legacy Para tho

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Para is that APEX now

covert birch
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What

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Apex lol

glass sundial
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Yes 2 people already @ d me that

sick crescent
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5.2 tons Para hype SuckLeaf2

sand oar
sick crescent
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Tubicens is god send

silver zephyr
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para literally the ultimate fit for update 4 WeSmart

outer condor
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5.2 tons Para hype :SuckLeaf2:
Still lighter than acro dondiTroll dondiTroll dondiTroll

sick crescent
outer condor
civic sparrow
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Para šŸ˜

ebon crypt
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I like the tugging on a leash that steers your dinosaur in the right direction idea better. Basically losing all of your control is no from me. Well, it's not all of it, but you know what I mean. I feel like tribals should have slight control in steering, but not full on control

civic sparrow
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I like the tugging on a leash that steers your dinosaur in the right direction idea better. Basically losing all of your control is no from me. Well, it's not all of it, but you know what I mean. I feel like tribals should have slight control in steering, but not full on control
@ebon crypt that’s basically what I was saying.

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But you tug on the leash by using the wasd keys

sick crescent
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after reading that

ebon crypt
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From what I understood, the tribal can control the dinosaur completely with wasd

civic sparrow
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No no no no

sick crescent
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I look forward to the day evrima gets pushed to main branch even more because it wont be called evrima anymore itll just be called the isle

ebon crypt
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"you have full control of your dinosaur" going off of this bit here, that's the impression that I'm getting

civic sparrow
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They control you if you let them but you have main control so if the tribal is pressing to go in one direction and you are wanting to go the other then it goes the direction you, the dinosaur, wants to go

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Yes you have full control of the dinosaur you are playing as

ebon crypt
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The control that the rider gets is only for steering was what I meant. Making dinosaurs actually move forward and stuff is iffy imo

civic sparrow
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I mean you kick a horse some to make it go forwards and pull back to go backwards irl but ok

ebon crypt
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Yes, in real life. But keep in mind that a player is still controlling the dinosaur aswell. I can definitely see a rider pulling a maneuver where they purposefully throw their dinosaur off a cliff or something by suddenly changing the speed and direction

civic sparrow
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Wouldnt they both die TI_Wheeze

ebon crypt
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Depends on how the game is programed, but also, humans will most likely not have a growth stage, dinos will

rigid gate
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anyone like pachy. besides me

civic sparrow
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Me

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Also just make it where only the Dino can control the soeed

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Speed*

ebon crypt
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Eh, I find "taming" and riding iffy in the first place. It's kinda hard to make it where both players have a fair amount of control, but still, not a fan of that idea

civic sparrow
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Just don’t get caught as a dino ig

ebon crypt
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Easier said than done

civic sparrow
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I honestly can’t think of a perfect way to make riding either

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But I do know if someone im not friends with is riding my dino near a cliff I’m gonna take control or buck them off

rigid gate
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maybe only have ai tameable

ebon crypt
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Yeah, but if the devs want to make players indistinguishable from AI, then how would you know if it's AI or not?

rigid gate
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you can again only tame ai so every tame is a risk between player or ai

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you never know just gotta hope and pray

ebon crypt
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Eeh

rigid gate
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i dunno just a counter to players not wanting to be tamed

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maybe players can also choose to be tamed or not

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and ai has no choice

ebon crypt
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The initial idea isn't "taming", it's beating dinosaurs into submition. This isn't Ark

rigid gate
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fair enough

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maybe have it be a fight and when players ( die/lose) they become the tamer's/beater's dino

ebon crypt
rigid gate
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its a tough subject

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i think it wont be implemented

ebon crypt
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Really is. It's especially hard since we know little about humans and how they'll play

rigid gate
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exactly its difficult to come up with how to tame/ beat dinosaurs into submission

covert birch
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@rigid gate
Stegos tail is flexible enough to hit its own head
So a regular attack would be able to get a Utah off instead of some special ability being needed

rigid gate
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did not know that

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just an idea

silver zephyr
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Ia duck

hot spear
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Imagine trading bites with a utah (instead of slapping it) and expecting to win
TI_Wheeze

rigid gate
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i dont think ava needs to knockdown opponents

strange wave
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so explain what the hell its going to do against a utah

outer condor
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Troodon pounce dondiMonkaS

covert birch
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Die bork

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I think the parry should be what knocks over an animal

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Givin the ava a small time chance to attack vitals or something

rigid gate
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@strange wave who are you talking to

covert birch
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You

rigid gate
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oh ok in that case the troodon would be able to speed the venom process then escape and track the utah i think that's kind of a weird question as that applies to all dinosaurs the troodon could pounce

covert birch
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I think the wth itll do against Utah had to do with you saying ava shouldnt get a knockdown

rigid gate
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well in that case yeah the ava will probaly get killed unless its a 1v1

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the question is why is the ava picking fights with utahs you should avoid them as much as possible as any small dino and if you have to you try to use your main attacks.

covert birch
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Cuz if ava is spotted itll get gimped

rigid gate
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im sure an ava might kill one especially with a gore attack like trike

covert birch
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I dont expect ava to kill utah effectively due to the position of its horns

rigid gate
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well maybe if they have an attack where the raise there head and swipe down they can hurt it

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@arctic nimbus good idea

covert birch
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I think a parry which leads to a knockovet

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Like the old dossier had

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Would work much better and open timing for attacks for ava

rigid gate
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maybe but i just think it would look kinda weird

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maybe a ram would look cooler like it puts its head down and charges then it does a little knockback

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like how your are saying

strange wave
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What if it were to stab something, then jerk its head down and spilling organs 😳
@arctic nimbus literally put that there

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and i also put that in there too blue, parry leads into small stun allowing ava to either bolt or throw it to the ground

arctic nimbus
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My fault, didn't see that.

proud coral
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I like that nightvision idea. Reminds me of how pupils in RDR2 will dilate in dark environments

wild stone
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Details are dope.

strange wave
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honestly thought i would get more "its not a gameplay mechanic we dont need it yet TheEndIsNigh" and similar things

covert birch
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we dont need it since i doubt youll even be able to properly see your pupils dilate when its night

feral wedge
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Eyeshine, tho.

warped tapir
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@feral wedge your totally right, the new animation just has the carno go to town on the carcass

feral wedge
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I hope we actually get a better implementation of eyeshine, thinking about it. Instead of just your whole eye glowing all the time.

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And yeah Gecko, with small bodies especially it makes no sense.

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I can understand it when eating something that won't move

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But unless your sole intent is to just fuckin yeet a dryo or utah carcass, I don't see how that is sensible.

warped tapir
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i think the head throwing animation could be used for animals more than 2 tons, but a different animation could be used for smaller things. like for things teno and below the current animation would just send them flying

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then again, making two seperate animations for the same dinosaur might just be a little much

feral wedge
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It would be really nice for a QoL thing, but I don't think it's worth the time investment currently.

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There's too many things to work on.

warped tapir
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i think once they get the game to a playable stage, like with bleed, bonebreak, day/night cycle, etc down and maybe just a few more dinosaurs, i think they can just go to work on everything

wild stone
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Hey, the thing about Carno drinking too fast, I actually don't mind that a drinking carno looks thirsty lol

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I imagine it's got a ridiculous metabolism to be running around as much as it does. Just look at those thunder thighs.
I think it'd be cool if they had low thirst capacity so they had to constantly drink.

sick crescent
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@strange wave whats so wrong about cave dens?

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There really isn’t anything wrong with them in the discussion I had

civic sparrow
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I liked the cave dens idea

covert birch
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My only issue is if that rexs ai nest in caves commonly
Egg eating animals can use that to their advantage a bit much

sick crescent
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Never said commonly

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Just said as an idea that Rex AI can nest in these cave dens

covert birch
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i think any ai should be able to

soft hedge
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I actually really like how the carno looks so thirsty, I imagine it would be after running around all day and it reminds me of running outside as kids and then coming inside for a drink as fast as possible to go outside and keep playing. as for the eat animation I do think that it looks like the thing is about to lose its upper half and blast into space or something. if the throw back weren't as dramatic and it did more pulling/shaking I think it would be great.

sick crescent
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Maybe

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Idk, I feel like nesting grounds would be better suited

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Rex just feels like a cave den nester to me

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Speaking of Nesting Grounds

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I need to make my plateau suggestion soon for the map

civic sparrow
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Carnivores would probably pick a hidden spot to nest. Nesting ground is more of a herbi with a herd thing

sick crescent
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Basically the Anti-Carno grasslands

civic sparrow
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Will ai nest?

sick crescent
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Not plains

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No idea, probably

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We can ask the devs sooner or later that question actually

civic sparrow
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It’d be cool if it was like raining and you scurry into a cave, and then a big mamma Rex is in there 0-0

sick crescent
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I don’t want a herbi rock plateau

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But I do want a plateau similar to herbi rock, just larger(not taller)

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And several of them

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Or even grasslands that dip in, similar to the AE-001 grasslands

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With the SOLE intentions being map design and anti-carno

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Or maybe even help Carno idk

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Intentionally anti-carno

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I also have an idea for lone ponds too

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Again, inspired by AE-001

covert birch
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Why make any place a specific herbi nesting spot
instead of making a bunch of diff places diff spots that can work well for diff spcies

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cuz 1 mega herd nesting zone would just be a endless hotspot

sick crescent
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Why make any place a specific herbi nesting spot
instead of making a bunch of diff places diff spots that can work well for diff spcies
@covert birch not for players

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And not just herbivores either

covert birch
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Ok
so what would you do to make players not use it

sick crescent
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Nesting Zones would be horrible for players, I’m talking preferred AI nesting zones

covert birch
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well i mena

sick crescent
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Almost like Areas AI nests more, but randomly

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And I see Rex being a cave den nester

covert birch
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Preferred nesting zones are confirmed
At least being more spcies specific

sick crescent
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Yes

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I know this

covert birch
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So i mean
why cant we just apply that to ai too

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let em nest wherever players can

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as long its their preferred biome

sick crescent
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Never said it wont?

covert birch
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nvm forget it

sick crescent
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@lime gulch I suggested and asked the devs that in the QnA

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They said not until the game is basically finished or gets there iirc

lime gulch
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Oh thanks! I'm obviously not looking for anything immediately and would be foolish to think all of these amazing ideas are going to be implemented so soon. It takes time

ebon crypt
jade plinth
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Oh

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Oops

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Thanks for reminding me!

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I delete it lol

covert birch
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@sacred minnow he is not in evrima atm
Which is the actually being developed branch of the game since legacy aint due to fucked code

knotty sparrow
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Why is everyone reacting negatively to the Carno drinking animation?

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It looks fine

covert birch
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Some think its a bit fast and can be slowed down

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I personally dont really care
my issues is with that first bit in the eating one

knotty sparrow
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Why?

covert birch
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looks weird

frigid cosmos
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they working on carno cuz dondi bad and scam šŸ˜Ž šŸ˜Ž 😔

ebon crypt
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Yeah, cause when I'm eating, I want to throw my entire body to the side potentially exposing myself and attracting other predators

silver zephyr
arctic nimbus
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Add kidnapping donid 😭

barren zephyr
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.........kidnapping?

knotty sparrow
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The Carno could simply carry it’s food into a dense forest and eat it there, problem solved

sacred minnow
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@covert birch what is evrima i play carno today he is ingame

covert birch
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Angela
Do you know of the recode?

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Or any other major development news

sacred minnow
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šŸ¤”

covert birch
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Cuz rn carno is in the legacy branch of the game
The legacy branch of the game has a bunch of issues cauing it to not be able to be worked on any longer

Meaning they had to recode the game

Evrima is the playable beta branch of this recode

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In evrima currently
There are 3 animals

Dryo tenonto and utah

sacred minnow
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ohh tenoto is new sure ? i dont know him

covert birch
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yes it is new

sacred minnow
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😱

covert birch
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the roadmap found in #roadmap-updates shows what they plan to add into evrima and in what order

barren zephyr
low yoke
sacred minnow
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wtf new map

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😱

covert birch
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yes
There is another map in evrima

barren zephyr
covert birch
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this is how you play evrima

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currently at least

barren zephyr
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evrima

pale prairie
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To clarify, Angela.
the base game (the game as you know it) is no longer in development.
it's code is flawed and the team wanted to expand in ways that simply isn't possible with it, so, they started again.
Evrima is the new game.

sacred minnow
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ohh thanks i wanted ask where to buy evrima lol šŸ˜…

pale prairie
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it's only a beta right now.. i wouldn't even call it that to be honest.

covert birch
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its free

pale prairie
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evrima is free.

barren zephyr
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poggers

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but seriously

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kidnapping

pale prairie
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sounds great.

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kidnapping when?

covert birch
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Yes
losing all control of my dinosaur b/c i got picked up is great idea

Def wont promote carebearing and trolling at all

barren zephyr
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why would you want to pick something live up anyway

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cant you just kill and drag

ebon crypt
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Honestly, being able to carry away small dinosaurs and not immediately kill them could make it a bit more atmospheric. There was a similar suggestion like that before

arctic nimbus
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I'm gonna combat log if they grab me lmao

low yoke
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ya, migration will be a lot easier

barren zephyr
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LOL

covert birch
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It would promote carebearing and trolling

So how about no

barren zephyr
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true, but I do agree that there’s a potential for misuse

ebon crypt
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As in, you still kill them, but just not immediately? Can't remember who made that, it went more in depth

low yoke
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you wont have too wait for the babys and their tiny legs

barren zephyr
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i feel like it’s neither a good or bad ide

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a

covert birch
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Just keep it to how it is now

if its small enough to carry it with ease you insta carry it and can run off

low yoke
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i dont think that the trolling thing your saying will happen, no herbie or carnis will let their babu on their own, if the baby get snachted, its the parents fault.

covert birch
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Alpha

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I a utah will walk up to a dryo bab and carry it to the closest cliff

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I a utah will use this to move around the dryo bab i wish to carebear

arctic nimbus
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If you're to get carried, it should be by the same groupmates at the very least.

covert birch
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Then that removes the entire kidnapping idea

barren zephyr
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maybe it should be held off on if there’s so much discourse about it

knotty sparrow
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I remember one time when I played Tenonto, before the group system was added, I stayed with a young juvi and kept a Utah from trying to kill it.

covert birch
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they already said they wont add it anyways

low yoke
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ah

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when? was it in a stream?

covert birch
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yes

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dondi was mentioning the same things im talkin bout

low yoke
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oh

knotty sparrow
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Utahs are the reason I’m waiting for Carno to be completely done

low yoke
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ah well im sorry, i should have look of some thing before talking

barren zephyr
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F

knotty sparrow
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As much as I like beating Utahs with Tenonto, I wanna be able to hunt them eventually

strange wave
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@jade plinth can easily be abused for trolling, cant be added

knotty sparrow
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And I know Utahs just love to troll

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Especially when you fail to kill them

warped tapir
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some people say that utah doesnt take any skill. and theyre right TI_Wheeze

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actually no, the new evrima utah takes skill because you cant just tailride. you actually have to plan where to bite, and when to strike and pounce and all that

arctic nimbus
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answer

outer condor
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^

sacred shale
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^

covert birch
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@mild walrus Why dont you just
Watch it for free then?

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unless your referring to the whole need to be a sub to rewatch it

mild walrus
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i am referring to that

covert birch
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ah well then i agree yea

mild walrus
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when i go to rewatch it, its like "pay 4.99"

covert birch
#

thats fuckin dumb

mild walrus
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who would ever do that lol

covert birch
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multiple larger streamers do but like its still shit

mild walrus
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ah gotcha

covert birch
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you can always ask around for the clips of the important bits though'

mild walrus
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hopefully amorok is embarrassed lol

covert birch
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like for example he showed us deino calls/rugops call

mild walrus
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i do follow isle updates on ig and they usually post it all there eventually

mental sleet
#

People tend to literally spam clips

covert birch
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yes

mental sleet
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unless you want the WHOLE context, you do not need to spend a single dollar.

mild walrus
#

thats fine and all but i wonder who set it up to where it costs 5 dollars to watch lol, its a bad business move for a game that costs $20

zinc anvil
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you understand you dont need to sub right?

covert birch
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You need to sub to rewatch the stream post it being done synergy

mild walrus
#

I mainly just want the people who make the content to understand its stupid, and wrong

covert birch
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you can most likely find any important stuff under clips though so not much to worry there

zinc anvil
#

You need to sub to rewatch the stream post it being done synergy
@covert birch its his channel he can do what he wants with it,he also dont need to stream at all

hot spear
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Imagine having to pay for extra stuff that most game devs out there don't even offer lol

covert birch
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Its his channel
he can do as he wishes

mild walrus
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LOL what a great response, its his channel, he can do what he wants.. i could go get on onlyfans for less

covert birch
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doesnt make it any more or less scummy

mild walrus
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literally every game does dev streams lol

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every game i play shrug

hot spear
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Would you like to bet onthat jkohlg

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ah lol

keen crypt
#

It's very annoying when you miss a stream because timezones and then be faced with a paywall if I want to catchup and rewatch the VoD

mild walrus
#

and also its not like some super exciting stream, i dont care, i just simply want them to know its scummy

hot spear
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well that dosen't really matter
as far as anyone here knows you could only play 5 games lol

zinc anvil
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doesnt make it any more or less scummy
@covert birch there are people im subbed too that do the same thing that just play games but you dont even need to sub no one is forcing you too

covert birch
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It's very annoying when you miss a stream because timezones and then be faced with a paywall if I want to catchup and rewatch the VoD
^

mild walrus
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username, multiple ppl have agreed with me here

covert birch
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Theres game streams
Then there are game development streams which can give critical info

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But ofc
This one didnt do much

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but missing out is still a pain

mild walrus
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^

covert birch
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and being forced to pay b/c you missed out whether due to timezones or another factor
is also a pain

keen crypt
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@covert birch there are people im subbed too that do the same thing that just play games but you dont even need to sub no one is forcing you too
@zinc anvil They don't stream for a living like others. It's literally a paywall for information about the development

zinc anvil
#

this is why CC on youtube make content

mild walrus
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but this isn't youtube

ashen wasp
#

as far as im aware, the problems with that kidnapping mechanic would be the same as a "baby pick-up" mechanic. namely, what happens when the animal youre carrying grows too large to pick up, etc-- the devs have talked about the headache that causes from a coding standpoint before, im p sure

as far as the streaming issue goes, you aren't really missing much-- you can pay to rewatch it, or not spend a cent and get the same amount of crucial information from the clip highlights or recaps on youtube

hot spear
#

and? lol
Im sure I could go on reddit and say something offensive and have 100s agree with me

and besides if you don't care then whats the point of your suggestion? (just curious)

mental sleet
#

you are not being forced to pay Blue, like I said, people literally pump out clips of stuff they find interesting

covert birch
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oh ik ik

mental sleet
#

and you are more likely than not ever going to watch the entire thing BUT check the clips.

covert birch
#

but with the new DMCA shit coming out

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clips aint gonna lways be there

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DMCA mass delete 2 electric boogaloo is upon us

especially if you play any music on stream which amarok does

hot spear
#

I mean sure
I'm all for full devstreams being free
but don't make it seem like they're a wrong asshole for not doing that

mild walrus
#

great contribution

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thats all we were saying lol

keen crypt
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I just don't understand why they are paywalled

mild walrus
#

i bet username pays $5 a month

hot spear
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nah lol
I don't pay less than .50 cents a day
Used to with dondi but I never redid my sub

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didnt get around to it

keen crypt
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No one thinks it's some exorbitant price, there's just no reason for the paywall to be there. The devs aren't reliant on Twitch for their income.

hot spear
#

I see how behind the scene stuff requires extra money
But I see how some may prefer for it to be free

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fine

sick crescent
#

Yall are making a big deal over twitch?

keen crypt
#

Just discussing it

south bane
#

a while ago the vods used to be free but iirc something happened and they learned that people used the code for their own projects so they had to put them behind the sub wall. I could be absolutely wrong on that last part since it was years ago.

sick crescent
#

wow its such a requirement to see dev streams when theres tons of people making clips and highlights of the interesting things on twitch and youtube

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well then stop discussing it cause this is pointless

silver zephyr
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thats what i was thinking mep. like occasionally ama brings up shit he doesnt want to and doesnt want most people to see potentially.

keen crypt
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I can discuss what I want.

sick crescent
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its pointless to

keen crypt
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Like 99% of the discussions here.

sick crescent
#

youre not wrong lol

silver zephyr
#

i mean all the interesting stuff is on youtube vids and clips anyways

sick crescent
#

literally

silver zephyr
south bane
#

yeah people here are very good at making highlights of the streams :)

sick crescent
#

the person who made the feedback proved theyd only watch like 2 seconds of the stream anyway "to just watch a guy chat and click some things"

keen crypt
#

No one is claiming its some catastrophe, it's just stupid

sick crescent
#

how

silver zephyr
#

its fine

sick crescent
#

its literally fine

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its not the game, its twitch

silver zephyr
#

no one genuinely wants to watch through a whole stream anyways

sick crescent
#

this

keen crypt
#

I do dondiSucc

sick crescent
#

bet

silver zephyr
#

like there are already clips and videos showing the only interesting stuff

keen crypt
#

If no one wanted to watch streams they wouldn't stream at all, right. People tune into the streams and watch them fully

silver zephyr
#

eh for the isle wise not much

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most just wanna see the occasional piece of gameplay or info

sick crescent
#

If no one wanted to watch streams they wouldn't stream at all, right. People tune into the streams and watch them fully
@keen crypt not a chance

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people tune in for interesting stuff, you can tell cause when the devs start working the stream loses more than half of its viewers

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and it RISES back up when the devs showcase stuff

keen crypt
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There's still people there tho. I don't see why they deserve money for something no one cares about then

sick crescent
#

there is still people there, either waiting, tabbed out or talking in chat

hot spear
#

If people didn't care then why is this discussion still going on lol

sick crescent
#

this is why i like amarok and fos

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they intentionally make the stream as unboring as possible yet still work

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fos plays with us after his streams and amarok plays around a little

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bryan is chill

keen crypt
#

I agree, but I can see this will go nowhere as with most topics. Not really a big deal anyway

sick crescent
#

dude even people like igp tune into his streams cause of the music lol

#

lets be real here

barren zephyr
#

tenonto eyes be like

valid elk
#

Carnotaurus can't turn fast

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Its tail won't allow it.

gray loom
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Its not the tail that's the problem, its just such a large animal.

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It would need to slow down because the bones in its ankles would crack for sure if it made a 20 degree turn moving at full speed

outer condor
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I'm pretty they just slapped utah movement on carno so it's probably a placeholder and will get change later

barren zephyr
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personally. idc about the whole pay to rewatch thing i do think it's dumb but whatever it's not like that money specifically is going to the game, it's more going to the individual so who cares

knotty sparrow
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dondiFrown That rage Carno emoji is becoming quite popular

ebon crypt
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Carno doesn't have many exited emotes. It's practically either that or dondiFrown

knotty sparrow
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I use that Carno emoji to showcase my annoyance with impatience

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I get that Carno’s animations look rather.....off, but they’re still working on it

outer condor
knotty sparrow
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Plus it needs to be remembered these dinosaurs are genetically modified. Apollo Engineering, as in ā€œAEā€, does have relevance in the game

barren zephyr
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I'm curious

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Are they still going forward with all those strains?

covert birch
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yes

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but like

knotty sparrow
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That’ll take a while

covert birch
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Last we heard for hypers was from paradym pre issues

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And he said "we dont have a system concept in place for it"

knotty sparrow
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Plus I also heard of something called the ā€œMatriarchā€

covert birch
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thats a whole nother ballpark

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the thing is like
A strain that just keeps eating and growing

knotty sparrow
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The concept they previously planned for Deino?

covert birch
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No

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Cuz matriarch also changes based on what it eats

knotty sparrow
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dondiFrown I meant the constant growth concept

knotty sparrow
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Your feedback is admirable Fluff, it is

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But to put it technically, these dinosaurs are not meant to be as accurate as their genetic templates

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They may look like them, but they’re not entirely like them

soft hedge
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It looks like the eyebrows are maybe gonna be part of animations? Like they flare out for intimidation or mating attraction. At least that’s what it looks like in the art

covert birch
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kissen said they were there to block the sun from your eyes when you fish

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so seems like a more permanent thing

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could also be dimorphism

soft hedge
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Maybe they’ll only pop out when you enter the fishing stance that was talked about?

covert birch
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maybe'

valid zephyr
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posting feedback in sections and hoping someone doesn't post their feedback halfway through wheat.

risky

covert birch
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slowmode in feedback is cursed moment

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there we go

valid zephyr
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called it wheat. called it.

mellow maple
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Nah its fine, people can react however they want to it LOL

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I mean would making the head shape more accurate destroy the design?

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No.

covert birch
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Wheat they said they called someone posting mid your feedback

mellow maple
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eh?

covert birch
mellow maple
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I'm not understanding

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oh

silver zephyr
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pap moment

covert birch
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speaking of realism n stuff though

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would the curve in the jaw even be noticeable in the animal with the flesh?

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or hell ingame even

mellow maple
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It's minor. No one, except for other dino nerds would bother to look at the animal closely like that.

covert birch
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no i mean like in irl

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would the curve even be visible on its mouth

mellow maple
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Oh HMM

covert birch
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or would flesh be blocking it

mellow maple
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It might actually be blocked by flesh.

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side view is wonky af

outer condor
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That view I like

covert birch
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fish doesnt help either

knotty sparrow
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It is just a concept

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The actual model may look better once it’s done

white spruce
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I actually really like @mellow maple's feedback

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I thought that the issue was with the snout being made too long, but you seem more informed than me so I'll agree with the snout actually just being too thin

barren zephyr
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I do like the semi-webbed feet!

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it would make some sense, and I think it’s a good niche statement

mellow maple
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Also do not let my stinky opinion be the only way to decide how you think of the animal. Just like how I think Isle Spino is mega flawed but people can clearly still enjoy it.

white spruce
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I'm not. Perhaps I'm too accustomed to the old model, but the new snout looked weird to me immediately upon first glance.

molten tulip
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Its a drawing

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Not a model

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And its obviously not meant to be the exact proportions for the model

white spruce
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old model
@molten tulip

valid zephyr
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The drawings are used as the base for the model to be designed off.

white spruce
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Also, what's the point of concept art if not to be a base for the final model?

molten tulip
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If that were the case it would be in a distinct default pose

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As kissen said theres still rounds of feedback and touching up the art goes through, that concept is a feel for the character and personality of the dino

analog ingot
silver zephyr
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idk if thats the best way to compare sizes

outer condor
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The other views look fine

analog ingot
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not comparing sizes, just for ppl to compare these two designs

molten tulip
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I can agree with the face being long but otherwise most of tge critique is just nitpicking

silver zephyr
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yeah but the sizes being off can make some proportions seem large or smaller on one specific design than it actually is

analog ingot
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the neck tho TheEndIsNigh

white spruce
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The other views look fine
@outer condor It's really odd, isn't it?

outer condor
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Yea that sideview is weird

white spruce
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@mellow maple Does the skull look better to you in the other two views provided?

silver zephyr
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chad frontview vs virgin sideview

vestal rune
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anyone else have a problem with the neck?

analog ingot
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me xd

outer condor
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It's a little long but I'm fine with it

white spruce
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This view is pretty close to being from the side or the top of the snout. It looks way more normal here

vestal rune
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idk I think the shape is just too defined, as if there isn't even any feathers there

valid zephyr
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I think the neck would look better if it wasn't shrinkwrapped

vestal rune
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ye jenkens I agree

analog ingot
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agree

mellow maple
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It might legit just be perspective

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Concept art is sometimes misleading

outer condor
mellow maple
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However, I would like to bring up Austro's body is still mostly unknown. This is filled in by phylogeny.

white spruce
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I don't think the perspective alone would make it look so wonky

analog ingot
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ye but if we dont act now it might become the side view dondiScream I want austro a bit more muscular and not as thin as a small heron

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look at austors neck skeleton

outer condor
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I do like austro's toe claw and webbed feet

analog ingot
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same

outer condor
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ye but if we dont act now it might become the side view dondiScream I want austro a bit more muscular and not as thin as a small heron
Also this

barren zephyr
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can we all agree on the feet at least

outer condor
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Yes

barren zephyr
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hear that admins? keep the feet

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the feet are what bind us

analog ingot
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I also like the tail its better than old one

barren zephyr
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yeah me too

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i didnt really vibe with the just. fan of feathers at the end

outer condor
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Yea the feet and tail are chad

barren zephyr
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alright admins, we want the tail kept too

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honestly they just gotta fix the face

outer condor
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That's my main problem with it

barren zephyr
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also, what are those lil eye flaps

outer condor
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They're weird but I'm fine with them

barren zephyr
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true

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but what are they for

analog ingot
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shade from sun

outer condor
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Probably that ^^

barren zephyr
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i think the foreclaws should at least be slightly webbed as well

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lest it swims like a goose or swan, which would be odd imo

barren zephyr
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@jade schooner thank you! penguin was the only water bird I could think of, and your suggestion is better!

hushed shadow
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thought the new austro concept was supposed to be a stork for sec

barren zephyr
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can we keep the feet tho I really like the feet

mellow maple
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It's mainly proportions that are the issue.

barren zephyr
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i just want the feet

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idc how the body is changed up

blazing charm
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Hrm, i'ma add on a lil bit more. Forgot some points.

barren zephyr
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you could literally make it a T. rex for all I care

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i just like the feet

mellow maple
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I can't say whether it was unlikely Austroraptor had webbed feet or not, because there's no fossils of the feet. There's nothing with webbed feet contradicting it.

The neck and head region tho are a major contradiction.

barren zephyr
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that’s what im saying

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everything else can change but can we keep the web webs

blazing charm
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Honestly, I couldn't really care less if it's inaccurate, I just think it looks weird, and not in the good way.

silver zephyr
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imo its mostly the head

mellow maple
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It reminds me way too much of Coelophysis

barren zephyr
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honestly, at least it wasn’t the brokeback anky

outer condor
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I personally think an accurate head would look better on austro

mellow maple
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It's one of the better ones tho, I'll give it that

barren zephyr
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i honestly think we should see it rendered first as well

mellow maple
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Anky's biggest issue was its back. that alone broke it for some many people.

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Oh and that weird rhino looking shit

silver zephyr
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arm tumors

mellow maple
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Meanwhile. Spino. Is just a fucking mess.

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Austro is ez to repair

barren zephyr
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where’s the spino

keen crypt
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No editing a model is much harder than changing a concept

mellow maple
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you can make it truer to its IRL counterpart but still keep that look of a swan

barren zephyr
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what’s the spino

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can someone show or tell me

silver zephyr
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yeah the austro doesnt need as a much tweaking as other designs imo

mellow maple
silver zephyr
mellow maple
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It's cool, yeah.

outer condor
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Good model just generic

barren zephyr
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bruh

mellow maple
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But that shit belongs in a kaiju movie

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If i had give the austro a grade for how well it represents the animal? it'd be like a low B

barren zephyr
#

yeah

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also

mellow maple
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B-, it hits some of the major key aspects of Austro, but its weird looking.

barren zephyr
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is it the same as this

mellow maple
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honestly, no. That's why concept art dinos are not to be taken for granted

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Head region especially

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The tail was more fin-like but became crocodilian instead.

barren zephyr
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cause I really liked that concept pic, it blends aspects of old spino and new spino

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dang

mellow maple
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This also goes for the sail, which also a major gripe I had with it.

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Let me get a dart board as an example.

barren zephyr
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LOL

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still, i don’t like seeing this much discourse over something so fixable and minor

mellow maple
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This is how I'd compare the recent ones to atm

outer condor
#

Where's theri dondiTroll

mellow maple
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I forgot

covert birch
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isle theri cursed

mellow maple
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in between anky and austro

outer condor
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No pot belly CryingNooo

silver zephyr
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4 toes

barren zephyr
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god that anky scares me

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rhino lookin ahh

covert birch
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fix the dnet

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and arm tumors

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then itll be perfect

barren zephyr
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the dnet

mellow maple
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I am often told that accuracy will not matter for this game, and this will always be true to a point. But that gives off the implication of not even trying. What makes it a dinosaur then? What's the point of a calling it that animal if it's not supposed to be that animal. It's such a fucking contradiction that I never can wrap my head around.

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Austro at least looks like an Austro so, there's that.

covert birch
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if its recognizable as said animal
its fine
Like spino if a look at it
You still see spino, even if 2000 spino or not

mellow maple
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True.

covert birch
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anky is too
To the average non dino nerd at least

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then you get hypsi
But every single dino of that size/shape look the same so not much to do there

mellow maple
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See, what I will give austro credit for is taking its semi-aquatic likely hood and amplifying it. That's hella cool.

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well

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not like swimming but

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piscivorous diet.

barren zephyr
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it would be nice to see it be able to at least swim better than other creatures

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or dive for a short period to catch fish

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it would look so graceful 🄺

strange wave
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toning down the anorexia =/ removing all character given to the animal, make its neck a bit thicker and give it slightly more body fluff and its just a downright better concept in general

barren zephyr
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I just don't like the way the concept looks as of right now, I'm a fan of the images I posted in feedback way more.

silver zephyr
#

i like those austros in general you posted but idk if they are following the concept they wanna do with this new austro as like a sneaky fox/heron like thing

barren zephyr
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It looks too much like a stork/heron hybrid thing, I like the normal raptor look with the skinny beak and whatnot.

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Something close to the legacy version.

silver zephyr
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4Shrug ok i guess

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its just unlikely for that to happen since they have a certain personality and concept for austro in mind. potential design changes should either not really impact these or add onto it to complement it

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like jaffads ideas to make more sections of its feathers more rugged

barren zephyr
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The concept art and actual model are often super different when it comes to the isle. I'm sure it'll be improved on, or is subject to change. It's not a bad concept, don't get me wrong.

silver zephyr
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ye i know

strange wave
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i've noticed that a lot of the more recent designs have had massive spikes in character, rather than the basic, "im a dinosaur with teeth and i roar"

barren zephyr
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Like hella said, it's up to the devs in the end.

silver zephyr
barren zephyr
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Yeah especially the spino

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Looks like a dragon

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I'd prefer not to either

silver zephyr
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anky imo is fine

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just get rid of the dip and the arm tumors

outer condor
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I'm fine with austro's new design I just rather they change it's head to a more accurate austro head shape

barren zephyr
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Oof yeah]

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The dent in the middle of it

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I love the new austros main body, but the neck and head are weird. I dislike how high it's head stands up, same with the Utah

outer condor
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Anky's dent 🤢

barren zephyr
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It fell on it's back as a kid

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It would look nice without that dent

outer condor
barren zephyr
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I feel like they're trying to go for a "realism but still have a unique quirky characteristic"

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I don't like that

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Make it look normal, not over the top and wacky

covert birch
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I think the issue is the head is too large for the body

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fix that
and make the head less long and it works

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czu rn if you check

barren zephyr
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Agreed

covert birch
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The head is about the same length as the body

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or body larger

silver zephyr
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the head is just the main issue that fucks up other things

barren zephyr
#

Here

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This is the type of head I'd personally go for

outer condor
barren zephyr
#

@maiden holly Since you reacted on my suggestion, what's your input on it if you have any.

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The neck looks like a stick

covert birch
barren zephyr
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That's not bad

covert birch
#

Froglegs was who made it

silver zephyr
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head looks a bit too big still

barren zephyr
#

Much better than long nose

outer condor
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Yes

covert birch
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the head at least isnt the length of the body anymore fulgore

silver zephyr
#

the side view is just fucked

outer condor
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^

silver zephyr
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the other angles have a shorter face

covert birch
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true

outer condor
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Yea it's weird

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The other angles look so much better

barren zephyr
#

Yeah agreed

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The top view looks much better

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It's hard to draw it perfectly on every angle

silver zephyr
#

šŸ¤“ *she

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its fine lol

barren zephyr
#

It's a beautiful design

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I love the chest fluff it has by the wings

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Yes

outer condor
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Yes

barren zephyr
#

I should've worded my feedback a bit differently, but who cares

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english is not my first

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oh no worries, im all for criticism and discussions

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Oh yeah

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Would love to see that

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Hm

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I give up trying to write this

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Generic skinny utah raptor oooooooo

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That'd be amazing

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Fluffy/feathered skin for raptors, etc.

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Glad they're adding feathers to the austro

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Or rather

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adding more feathers

maiden holly
#

@barren zephyr eh, i just think the isle shouldn’t always be exactly realistic

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I would rather the dinos having a unique look ngl

barren zephyr
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Of course yeah

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Im not for realism here either

maiden holly
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^

barren zephyr
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I just like the style of the realistic one a bit more, the head and neck and such

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Body of the concept art austro is better

maiden holly
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Preferences

barren zephyr
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Yes

honest sparrow
#

Austies is a horrible term and you should be subject to multiple forms of Roman torture

nova anchor
#

lmfao

ashen wasp
#

I can get behind this fictionalized Austro, just like the Tenonto, Spino, Troodon, etc. (not the Anky, though, just please please fix that poor thing’s back).

barren zephyr
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Yeah.

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My main problem is just the head and neck

barren zephyr
#

Z3RK3R die

charred nova
#

that austro is perfect

blazing charm
#

Honestly, after seeing Frog's edit, I can't go back to the wings on the original concept.

valid zephyr
#

That austro is legit perfection. It keeps the same character of the isle one while not looking starved to death.

blazing charm
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I'ma go make a side by comparison image, be right back.

charred nova
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The concept art austro doesnt really look like a austro tbh. thats why i likes frogs edit because it looks like a austro but unique at the same time

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austros concept art is pretty much a halskaraptor

blazing charm
valid zephyr
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The fan one is just so much better proportioned. It's recognisable as an austro and doesn't look starved to death.