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#general-feedback-discussion
oblique summit
peak wedge
That works too
oblique summit
I'm Brazilian it's a little difficult to write in your language
peak wedge
Ah, that makes sense
oblique summit
lol
random imp
nadder stop insisting about this utah remake. it's the 4th suggestion you make in a week.
shadow stream
^
dreamy wharf
Little do you realize, that is literally the conceptual precursor to what we have now. Our Utah is pretty bulky already, slapping more meat onto him would just look stupid.
arctic nimbus
Current Utah is anorexic lmao
arctic nimbus
That has more bulk than this
dreamy wharf
How?
The only thing the previous raptor model had over the current in terms of sheer mass
Was the pot belly it had.
arctic nimbus
The arms are slightly bigger and the model has a larger head. Regardless, you can't be telling me that Evrima's raptor is bulky.
dreamy wharf
Arms were smaller and the fingers were longer.
Utah's head before was longer and infinitely thinner.
That's how it looked.
arctic nimbus
Maybe it's just the viewpoint. I don't know what old Utah really looked like as I was not around, but Evrima's Utah isn't bulky. Compared to the old one as you said, yes, but my point still stands.
valid zephyr
I mean the perfect utah model would be this:
dreamy wharf
That's literally just the same thing but with feathers.
valid zephyr
I mean yeah lol.
covert birch
an updated old model > this current model
Fix the fucking head of the old model especially and it would be great
valid zephyr
updated old model as a skin option would be cool
covert birch
it would but would change hitboxes most likely
dreamy wharf
If we got a completely overhauled version of the previous model, it would be fine.
Which, by the way, is what current utah is.
valid zephyr
i mean alternate skins was mentioned, so it's possable
covert birch
it isnt
complete different posture
amounts of bulk
animations yet the old utah anims were trash except the run which is perfect on velo
i mean alternate skins was mentioned, so it's possable
i doubt alt skins which change hitboxes will occur
like most would just fall upon head changes
and maybe lil flair like spikes
valid zephyr
I mean posture can be changed for a model. Current utah and legacy utah are the same model but completely different posture
dreamy wharf
The permanent slouch forward really wasn't great, in comparison it's a pot bellied, gangly fingered mess.
covert birch
old posture was great
dreamy wharf
Here's a good image of the upright idle on the model.
covert birch
the anims werent
dreamy wharf
Literally looks like it's permanently slouching.
covert birch
And the neck/head were meh
well thats what utah posture wise was irl
Instead of jp raptor but diff color
and while im not one for fancy irl nonsense
Looks better imo
barren zephyr
I'll be fine with any raptor model that doesn't have broken wrists or is morbidly obese.
dreamy wharf
What do you mean, being skin and bones for everything aside from your stomach is great. 
valid zephyr
yeah i prefer irl posture to jp posture
barren zephyr
I like this a lot, feathers or no feathers. Both would look good imo.
dreamy wharf
I do like the more rounded snoot.
covert birch
Like this
But without feathers would be epic
dreamy wharf
Where are it's fucking legs.
barren zephyr
Big birdo
covert birch
under the feathers zann
arctic nimbus
It doesn't use its legs
It slithers on the ground
covert birch
lol
dreamy wharf
It's just all feathers.
covert birch
Have you ever seen an owl lol
barren zephyr
covert birch
Look at this mofos legs
barren zephyr
Not a fan of the snout/beak/whatever
covert birch
they just half when feathers are put on
always thought that utah art was ugly
That leaning foward posture is good though
dreamy wharf
I know, just with that image the amount of feathers is sickening.
covert birch
yes
barren zephyr
Yeah
dreamy wharf
It's like looking at one of those feather pillows.
covert birch
this shows the leaning foward posture better
Top one is preferable in the amount of bulk i would wnat though
dreamy wharf
I mean my issue is that I can't even see what the utah itself looks like.
barren zephyr
Would be cool if the utah got an optional feathered version, but god knows the community hates feathers for some reason.
dreamy wharf
He's just all thigh.
barren zephyr
The utah in evrima looks so weird
valid zephyr
having scaled and feathered skin options would be cool.
covert birch
yes
barren zephyr
I really don't like any of the animations for it
valid zephyr
gang wars.
dreamy wharf
Dunno Blue, Dondi did say "You might be getting feathers sooner than you think". 
dreamy wharf
Going to literally butcher every single feathered raptor I come across.
covert birch
imma shag em and make weird ass ugly half feather half non feather babies
the true abominations
barren zephyr
Imagine the customizations with feathers tho
Oh gos
God
The ones with the frills
covert birch
God those were shit animations
barren zephyr
Remember when all of the isles animations were purely only the head?
cough cough spino
dreamy wharf
Ah yes, because hunched over with third stage lumbago was better. 
barren zephyr
Yeah I'm not a big fan
covert birch
Except the walk
prefer legacys
steep latch
Just make the Evrima Utah a little larger making it more stocky
dreamy wharf
I'm not big on animations unless they look outright stupid.
barren zephyr
The animations like don't fit with the run speed
dreamy wharf
I mean I'm p sure everyone just wants an upsize.
barren zephyr
Yeah
dreamy wharf
The current utah is already p bulky.
barren zephyr
It walks like a chicken, head up really high
covert birch
current utah is 200kg above max irl
i just want it to be fatter overal
same with carno but thats b/c disneys dinosaur movie bias
barren zephyr
The run animation for the utah should honestly lean forward like it did in legacy if i remember correctly
steep latch
Well i personally think it looks great
dreamy wharf
This is basically current utah in everything BUT the face.
steep latch
There are far more pressing matters on the devs mind then giving the utah a remodel
dreamy wharf
I think I'd prefer the rounded face.
covert birch
well ofc sheev
barren zephyr
True, but I prefer it still
barren zephyr
Felt like it was heavier
covert birch
but straight
barren zephyr
But why could it jump so high?
steep latch
I thought the utah would run with a bit of stiffness
covert birch
it still can
dreamy wharf
It always looked like it was about to fall, had a tail that just went wooshy wooshy constantly, and always reached his arms out.
barren zephyr
I loved the allo in legacy
The weird bite animation not so much
But the ambush run was great
steep latch
Make it bring it's head down like an axe, how it would have done
barren zephyr
Yeah
steep latch
Oh did it
barren zephyr
A lot of the newer animations feel like the dinos lost their charm, they don't feel heavy and threatening anymore. To me at least
covert birch
allo just bit things
Aint an axe head no more
steep latch
Shame
barren zephyr
Lol
steep latch
All carnivores will get it most likely
barren zephyr
Doubt
covert birch
Well yes but actually no
barren zephyr
Giga could in no way grab anything
Its so big it would fall over
Spino is a maybe
covert birch
most carnivores is getting a grab using their mouth parts
But like
allo is fancy doing arm stuff
barren zephyr
Yes
covert birch
If they dont have a grab they doin some other stam ability
like utahs pounce for example
barren zephyr
I would expect spino to grab things via its arms, like fish
Same witht the sucho
Super hyped for my sucho boy
steep latch
Hell yeah gonna be so much better than legacy
but deinosuchus i think might beat it out just because of the juvi stage
pine cape
I’m amped for how many options there are on the roster
lament ermine
Losing body parts while still alive resulting in permanent damage kinda cringe though ngl 
knotty sparrow
Yes, the Carno’s head should be positioned lower when actively chasing prey on open fields.
Plus, it’ll give off the impression of Carno having the intention of ramming it’s intended target
We’re talking about a carnivore that’ll be able to use it’s head like a battering ram to knock over and even potentially cripple prey with a well placed hit.
Like for example, if a Carno goes after a lone unsuspecting Tenonto, should it manage to move in quick enough, the Carno, with enough momentum, slams it’s head into the Tenonto’s flank, potentially causing some crippling damage to where Tenonto can’t run, thus allowing Carno to kill it
Smaller prey such as Dryo, Hypsi, Ovi and many others of lighter weight would more likely be obliterated by a full on ramming attack from a Carno, unless the Carno player prefers something more direct like using the jaws to snatch up the smaller dinos in it’s mouth
devout sun
With the giga special ability, I believe giga being able to butcher parts off it's prey is amazing. However that seems unlikely to me, since destructible dinos may be a little off the path the game is going.
Honestly, allowing the giga to grab it's prey, and beat it up by slamming it on the ground and all about, inflicting untold injury, and then throwing it's prey out would still be extremely devastating, and if you were lucky enough to escape and somehow not get tracked, you may just die anyway. This would make catching and butchering medium sized prey easier, but may seriously increase the power of the giga, perhaps too much.
Maybe an ability that might keep the giga still for a quick second, to allow this to be dodged by particularly nimble threats, and then moves you forward a but with your mouth gaped open, which if it connects, would briefly grapple the prey, and inflict a particularly nasty bite, then besides adding about the same bleed as the usual bite, may make the blood it drops on the ground be easier to sniff from longer ranges, making it a lot easier to track down prey that takes this nasty bite. However, other carnivores like rexes (which you may not want to tussle with) will also be able to see this blood trail easier. It's a risk, but could be a great utility to have.
frigid cosmos
yeah the grouping system is so fuckin annoying, its so hard to find friends
silver zephyr
i think thats moreso a problem with the map having no noticeable points of interest to help locate friends
plus iirc they wanted to do a steam friends thing where you would spawn close to them
digital bone
Given there is no tab menu for players, hiding one's name doesn't seem required. That being said it would be nice to be able to toggle if your name shows up as a server admin or not when texting.
godmode is neat but after the legacy hackening, I can see it only being a potential downfall
narrow ingot
Damn i like vice giga idea...sounds neat 👏💯
frigid cosmos
ye that looks better
ashen wasp
Still think carno lowering its head should be mapped to its special ability— hows it gonna see in front of itself at a sprint of its eyes are glued to the floor by default???
languid cairn
@marble kernel That needs time. Like, alot of time. Enough to near complete flush out the dinosaur roster and ecosystem time.
But, when they do arrive, I would like it if Humans were given the explicit goal of hunting and capturing dinosaurs.
For points and stuff, like that abandoned Primal Hunter game.
ashen wasp
I’m honestly fine with carnivores— and herbivores for that matter— being relegated to mineral deposits to help with illness— it’d be pointless to add a grazing animation for every carnivore when there’s already an intended system for the same effect
ebon crypt
The thing with taming is that, most methods, apart from beating the dinosaur into submission, don't work on humans. Keep in mind, real people are controlling the dinosaurs. That's kinda why I find "taming" iffy in the first place. If only AI is tameable, then how would we tell if it's AI or not, since the devs had said that we won't be able to tell the difference between AI and players?
Beating one into submission is the only way to really "tame" a player. Something like simply offering it food won't work on most people
shadow stream
^ I was thinking the same thing, I can’t imagine player dinosaurs willingly submitting themselves
ebon crypt
Eh, that solution isn't doing it for me. Completely taking away a players offense (and defense for that matter) is not a good idea either imo
shadow stream
Imagine charging at a human as dinosaur and then you automatically lose control over yourself because the player raises their hand or shows you some food or something lmao
ebon crypt
I know that a lot of people want to have loyal dino pets in this game, but that simply isn't how this game works
molten tulip
I feel like if people want to team up they just will
Doesn't need to be a game mechanic people can just not attack a human
ebon crypt
Teaming up is a completely different topic, obviously friends or people on no-rules servers would team up and mess around
dense wagon
I know that a lot of people want to have loyal dino pets in this game, but that simply isn't how this game works
unfortunately, the roleplayers are inevitable
covert birch
iirc pet compys n such were one of the perks mentioned for people who helped in the kickstarter
so "pets" will most likely happen
especially combined with that tribal taming concept which was beating people to obey ya or die
barren zephyr
bonk a rex on the head and force it to be your pet
ebon crypt
Bonk a rex and shove meat down its throat, boom bff's for lif
sick crescent
@mighty spear thats physics
tail physics will come back eventually
i assume the same with hypsis eyebrows
mighty spear
Gotcha
I thought they had something like that at least given the tails in legacy... guess that also explains why tails look so weird from time to time with Teno movements
silver zephyr
sfps
lethal silo
if you rly wanna tame hoardes of dinos go play ark
frigid cosmos
@scenic cape they not changing legacy anymore
scenic cape
then maybe make a functioning aviary in the recoded version
when i saw it the first time I was so hyped to go inside, I was disappointed to say the least
barren zephyr
#general-feedback message I love this
supple totem
I don't see the option to play other maps? How to I toggle between isla spiro and the other maps?
supple totem
Oh, ty. How do I turn off evrima?
frigid cosmos
like switch back to legacy?
lethal silo
uninstall it and reinstall the legacy branch
frigid cosmos
yep
supple totem
Ok awesome ty
civic sparrow
@twilit sable what’s that question mark for?
civic sparrow
@barren zephyr when pteras are on rocks nesting being able to leap from ledge to ledge would be a lot easier then take off and then having to time a land again
covert birch
@civic sparrow pretty sure it jumps already
civic sparrow
Nice
barren zephyr
I'd imagine you would probably need to hold space while running to take off
Or something like that
shut chasm
Nice
@civic sparrow
frigid cosmos
twilit sable
@civic sparrow I didn't know that pelagornis was confirmed
civic sparrow
@twilit sable oooh lol
barren zephyr
It would be cool if that jump worked like hypsi’s jump, hold the space bar and you lift off but press it and you jump
glossy dock
I think my idea is really good
frigid cosmos
grape man dino
ebon crypt
"For everyone posting suggestions, from now on suggestions containing 'nerf/buff x, or please add X dino' are not permissive as they add nothing of value for the development team. Please propose a possible fix/weigh balance changes." 
glossy dock
The funny thing is it’s an actual dinosaur
frigid cosmos
the funny
ebon crypt
Yeah, we know, and it's not funny anymore
glossy dock
You aren’t a mod so how do you get to make the rules?
ebon crypt
Check pins in feedback
I'm just trying to give you a friendly warning before a mod does
glossy dock
Yeah it’s a serious suggestion
mellow seal
even if its a serious suggestion you shouldve added way more than just "add [dino name]"
mellow seal
sorry sorry
you shouldve added more than "add the dinosaur Thanos Simonatto"
glossy dock
Ok I’ll add to it
glossy dock
Better?
glossy dock
I’m sure they could make an accurate recreation with the 2 tiny fossils they found
safe galleon
outer condor
^
glossy dock
lament ermine
lol lol lol lol funny thanos dinosaur please add...
ebon crypt
And the best part
frigid cosmos
thanos is a weak mf
lament ermine
Please add the dinosaur with only one(?) bone assigned to it's name- oh wait
glossy dock
Is there really only one fossil found for troodon?
ebon crypt
A tooth
ebon crypt
Too bad we already have rugops
glossy dock
Wdym
ebon crypt
I'm saying that we are already getting a similar dinosaur to thanos, just has a better name and a model already
glossy dock
Carno?
ebon crypt
rugops
lament ermine
It's like a smaller Carno
glossy dock
Wtf Is a rugops
ebon crypt
glossy dock
What a name
outer condor
Wait rugops is confirmed?
glossy dock
Don’t think so
ebon crypt
I think so, but even if it isn't, it's still better than thanos
ebon crypt
Someone said that they are making a document about rugops, so maybe they can come up with something interesting, but still, it's a better option than thanos
outer condor
Both rugops and thanos have nothing for them
glossy dock
When are we getting apexes again? Update 10ish?
shut chasm
Update 4 is the first inclusion
glossy dock
I can’t wait for update 3
It’s going to be so cool
I haven’t played for a while, is the lag fixed?
lament ermine
I really wish they stuck to the whole smalls first then progressively adding larger creatures
outer condor
^ same
glossy dock
Isn’t that what they are doing?
lament ermine
But then they went and added Deino and Sucho to update three which is 🙂
outer condor
But it's better than playable rex
glossy dock
Ptero is cool
outer condor
Oh yea I forgot about sucho and deino
shut chasm
The lag is pretty fixed for most servers
Some servers like EU4 were cursed with binding for some reason
covert birch
Wait rugops is confirmed?
no
lament ermine
Like trust me I love Sucho but like.. Adding two pseudo apexes when there's nothing but small tiers and one mid tier (That can hardly fight other mid tiers) is 
covert birch
rugops is in its gutter
theyll pull it out if they can find a niche for it
same with the other old models
silver zephyr
Like trust me I love Sucho but like.. Adding two pseudo apexes when there's nothing but small tiers and one mid tier (That can hardly fight other mid tiers) is :crieshard:
what about stego
torn thistle
Well, Rugops has a model sitting in the backburner, at least
lament ermine
Blue they confirmed Mono idk if they care about uniqueness in terms of niche
torn thistle
And... I think some sounds from a year or so ago? Not much beyond that
glossy dock
Mono?
lament ermine
Also bad
ebon crypt
Monolophosaurus
lament ermine
Aka worse Dilo
outer condor
no
Good
safe galleon
frog rugops
ebon crypt
Mono
glossy dock
That’s really ugly
Like I would want to just look away if I saw that because of how ugly it is
outer condor
That's the old model I think
glossy dock
Good
torn thistle
lament ermine
Don't get your hopes up I'm pretty sure they just tweaked the old model and gave it a diff skin
glossy dock
Ok that’s not as bad
ebon crypt
Yeah, not much of a difference..
torn thistle
There was at least one or two other skins for Mono sitting around
glossy dock
It doesn’t look as bad in the new version
torn thistle
But I wouldn't mind seeing Mono getting a bit of a gnarly facelift down the road
lament ermine
These two?
glossy dock
Where is the list of confirmed dinos
safe galleon
pinned in isle disussion
glossy dock
No it’s not?
torn thistle
Second one there. Fred made the first, but idk if it was ever planned to be a skin, since I think he made that and a bunch of others before becoming a dev
been a while
lament ermine
I personally hope the green and blue skin comes back, I think it looks the best in terms of patterns
barren zephyr
I like the red one
The confirmed dinosaur list should really be put somewhere else, maybe the road map trello or something.
covert birch
ps. troodon doesnt exist no more and the only thing we have of it is a tooth so the realism argument is null there
barren zephyr
rename troodon to stenonychosaurus since troodon is an invalid taxon
@glossy matrix
Its really not neccesary and alot of people would rather just call it Troodon, but you are right.
dreamy wharf
Cocoa even if you just reduce the range, we already have massive issues with player interaction. Scent is a huge part of that where bodies act as almost waypoints.
While the scent range is reduced, it's still abit much imo?
covert birch
zann for ai to do all those things
it will cause massive server lag
dreamy wharf
This is like 3 - 5 Ai homalos btw.
I doubt it'd cause more lag than the 50+ AI already on the server.
Besides, this is moreso a rough idea being thrown out there for homalo as I haven't seen anything remotely good.
I figured I could translate the matriarch AI to players, but, it just seemed kinda dumb.
You just sit there and make pheromones. Ontop of that, you can't really have any extra AI herdmates because you could just exploit them and send them off as free food for X player.
Would having it be entirely player controlled be better? Just have the leader of your group be the designated matriarch and able to make pheromones?
covert birch
well 4 things
1: i feel like the rts gameplay fits something like compy much more then homalo
2: homalo in itself is already fine, burrowing tiny tier bonebreaker who can knock "larger" shit out
3: this cant really apply to multiple players since well you can just not obey the matriarch or whatever
4: also issue with multiple players is having the an animals mechanic only work with that
Imo a remedy to this is having players just control a lil swarm of animals
dreamy wharf
Personally, Compies don't really fit the RTS gameplay style as they're so small in comparison, they don't have some sort of CC like Homalos do, and have already been set to act as a natural clean-up crew. Really want Homalos to feel like a "king of the hill" sort of animal that acts as food for juvies and smalls that manage to kill one or afew Homalos if they "breach the castle" if you catch my drift. Feel like it goes both ways in terms of your second point, they are more of suggestions, but, there's usually reason to follow them which I feel would incentive players enough based on the level of need. Also the intent is to stray away from what Pachy basically is, which is just knocking/charging larger shit out or down. Not sure what you mean by the last one, but, regardless it is basically the idea of just having Homalos having good control over larger groups, effectively controlling a swarm of animals.
paper oriole
Stenonychosaurus is too much of a hassle to type out, troodon easy
So troodon better
dapper pulsar
Counter point, Sten, Steno and Stenony are better terms then anything you can come up for troodon.
Trood is actually pretty entertaining. I take it back.
silver zephyr
don
dapper pulsar
Don is ridiculous and you should feel ashamed.
silver zephyr
troodondi
dapper pulsar
That's good, I take it back. Live with pride.
wind turret
That was a great exchange I just witnessed
paper oriole
Neckbeard dilo
molten tulip
Agreed on bush particles being insanely hard to see
lethal silo
☝️
dreamy wharf
The goal is to have Tenonto vs Utah matchups to be 70/30 on a 1v1, 50/50 on a 1v2, and 30/70 on a 1v3. I personally feel this would enable Tenontosaurus to do just that. It's not something that I should just go "I'll kill it really easily" in a 1v1. In turn, allow Utahraptor to have a "weight" debuff based on how many raptors are on Tenonto as well as increasing the damage dealt. Causing the Tenonto to slow and allow for packs of Utahraptors to coordinate and apply pressure accordingly. @echo bridge, @sick crescent How's this?
Changed the end bits.
echo bridge
yeah utahs being able to apply a weight debuff on things they pounce is good
but this does mean a workaround is needed
for why only 1 utah can pounce a teno at a time
dreamy wharf
Wait, multiple utahs can't pounce on a tenonto?
dreamy wharf
Doesn't seem intentional.
echo bridge
it gets stuck in the knockdown anim
dreamy wharf
That's
Dumb.
Well, I genuinely don't think it's intentional. Tenonto can definitely fit 1 to two Utahs on each side.
echo bridge
in general i feel like the extra weight of a pounce utah should make attacks slower and also cause a small stamina drain on the pounced victim as well
and for bigger animals
you'd need more utahs to achieve the same effect
that pouncing medium sized animals would
but it still sucks that it eats so much stamina to even effectively use pounce in its current state
the dmg to stam cost ratio is wack
shut chasm
I agree
Pounces should weaken and slow down the attack animation and registering
dreamy wharf
That's why I suggested a damage increase based on the amount of raptors on.
echo bridge
well if 2 raptors were able to pounce the same target, thats already a dmg buff
shut chasm
True
echo bridge
its just you currently aren't able
no need for artificial increase in that matter
but things like weighing down the victim
shut chasm
You're having utahs attacking the teno while others are pouncing the teno dealing that ambient damage
echo bridge
making its attacks cost stamina to use whilst the utahs stam drains in tandem
would be more fair
because currently the only smart reason you'd ever pounce a teno is if you know its out of stam
because then it cant buck you off
maybe it would be smarter to just fix the sound variation from low stam to not be cliet side
so when your stam gets low, not just you can hear it
so an effective hunting strat using pounce would be bait tenos stam till it tires
then try pouncing when its nearly out
shut chasm
Shouldn't pouncing also deal bleed?
echo bridge
yeah
utah rakes its toe claw across and bites at the thing it pounces
should def cause bleed dmg
i think bleed and allowing multiple utahs to be able to pounce something would be a good start
and then see if it needs anything more after those changes
dreamy wharf
o-ob
languid crown
i think bleed should be exclusive to things like pouncing
instead of repetive nips that eventually cause you to bleed out, the utah jumps on you, cuts an artery or guts you with a sickle claw to get the valuable bleed on the target, its a risk for the utah, he could get smacked pretty bad if he screws it up but if he is successful his opponent is at a big disadvantage
dreamy wharf
Bleed is a necessary mechanic for alot of predators to kill prey within the game. Limiting such an integral mechanic to specific abilities certain playables seems like a no-go.
Besides, in terms of a utah/tenonto matchup, not being able to receive bleed from a utah outside of pounce seems strange.
echo bridge
especially with how stamina costing attacks seems to be the direction combat is going now
having bleed as a just as prevalent counterpart could make for interesting matchups
imo:
teno should do light to medium bleed to a utah with its claw attack
utah should do light to medium bleed with its bite and medium amounts of bleed with pounce to a tenonto
especially if the costly nature of it is kept
dreamy wharf
And I think many would agree with that.
echo bridge
and of course keeping the thing that you do less bleed damage against things larger than you
idk about having you do more than base bleed to smaller creatures, since your damage likely already covers the matchup regardless
the one thing i'd like to change about it
is that
outside of bleed being reworked into a stamina cap drain
dreamy wharf
" In conclusion, Tenonto is performing as it should be in the current build of Evrima and the next builds coming up don’t propose a much brighter future for the animal. So we suggest that MAINLY..." @echo bridge Think you meant "Tenonto isn't performing as it should be".
languid crown
pounce is pretty useless unless your stunlocking a smaller target
if bleed damage is stackable, even a small amount from biting will encourage utahs to just ankle bite
espeacilly against larger targets
covert birch
pounce is actually pretty good if you use it repeatedly and get off after like 1 bite if you are to get the pounces to actually land
vast wolf
pounce does a ton of damage and will likely do a lot of bleed.
languid crown
yes but its not worth the risk
its 100x easier to just dodge attacks and bite
when you pounce your subjecting yourself to ping and bugs
strange wave
pouncing is high risk high reward, cant wait to see hordes of utahs attempting to pounce stegos to death
languid crown
then make it high reward
strange wave
its already high reward, if you use it right then you wont get destroyed by your victim, and if you use it with a pack then you multiply its effectiveness
languid crown
vs a tenonto there is no reward
you get what, 8 bites in exchange for all your stamina and no direct hits if you do it perfectly?
covert birch
There is reward if you risk yourself multiple times
vast wolf
8 bites for free is still a lot of damage to that tenonto and if you have another utah with you pouncing it thats pretty much a death if you both stay on.
covert birch
You can pounce on then fall off before the teno kicks you off and still get 2-3 bites
So do that like 3 times and thats 9 bites and you still have stam to run away as packmates finish the job
vast wolf
pouncing will be very scary with bleed.
im expecting it to do twice the bleed as the normal bite.
i think the bush growth would be good if it grew faster.
2 hrs sounds like way too much for a common food scouse especially with nutrition coming in.
civic sparrow
@oak folio it’s all fun in games until the Rex turns around and chomps XD, but I do that that’s a neat idea
safe galleon
eh i mean it could be abused for food
oak folio
yup, you just have to hope for that he dosent see you in time
civic sparrow
It won’t really be abused since there is a huge risk to getting that close to a Rex ghost
safe galleon
yeah but 2 friends could sit down and have infinite food by mix packing
oak folio
it could i didnt really think about it that much
civic sparrow
Oh that’s true
oak folio
do you know how much it hurts to have a part of you skin removed tho
safe galleon
yeah but then they could just heal it
civic sparrow
They could make it to where having a chunk of you ripped off could lead to infection
And so people def won’t want it to happen
safe galleon
then that would kinda make it op, you just bite the rex once and it gets infected
oak folio
yeah going to what someone ask befor that too
and did i say that it porb wont give that much food
vast wolf
it should be a special ability for giga that can only work on things like trike shant or brachi.
safe galleon
doesn't feel like it'd be worth it then, get close and bite rex for just a small amount of food
oak folio
i like that idea more tbh
vast wolf
it was talked about for giga a few years ago.
oak folio
i 100% said that not like i meant to do but i more mean it as a example so a allo pack fights a rex and they start starving they could try that but idk
vast wolf
its your own fault for starving in a fight.
oak folio
well yeah ik
solar iron
There is already a theory about "fleshgrazers". Allo and such dinos "grazed" chunks of flesh from sauropods then let them go.
Hit and run tactic
oak folio
that pretty much what i said but yeah i think i heard it befor once to 100% not the first to say that
or i mean at least
vast wolf
if flesh grazing is unique to giga it keeps allo and acro from being clones of it.
solar iron
@oak folio it still just a theory of some paleontologists
oak folio
yeah but i think i heard it befor once too
vast wolf
its been mentioned.
oak folio
and i sayed it was just an example that allo rex thing
oak folio
where do you think i got it from.
civic sparrow
Dinosaur train
livid fern
https://youtu.be/CpaZkVqQAFA
@vast wolf that "snack" feeding would be awesome for bigger dinos
vast wolf
should really only be for giga to make it as different as possible to allo and acro.
ashen wasp
i dont think Acro's confirmed for EVRIMA at this time, and Allo's gonna have that sweet sweet grapple
silver zephyr
i mean acros getting concept art so...
bitter storm
Ye, it was talk about acro's is going very long way to move out
And allos see really far tho
ionic spoke
Carno Run V2 much better than V1 for Evrima
oak folio
yup
paper oriole
Dilo doesn't need a stronger bite when he already has venom+nightvision
paper oriole
Isnt the isle dilo heavierr than 700kg but he just looks scrappy
arctic nimbus
Dilo is actually a pretty buffed animal
paper oriole
If he gets fattened/beefed up to match the weight sure but the dude already has two great combat advantages, doesn't need a buff unless he turns out shit in the recode with the perks he already has (doubtful)
lilac swallow
carno is twice the size of a dilo
arctic nimbus
I think they might possibly be the same weight? Not sure
oak folio
its more tall than strong
lilac swallow
carno is like 1.7 tons, and dilo is between 500 and 800 kg
covert birch
Isnt the isle dilo heavierr than 700kg but he just looks scrappy
Ingame yes
Im tlakin the newer discovered dilo stuff where it got massive, i want the model size to actually fit that
barren zephyr
I watched a video about it, it was about the size of a horse if i remember
covert birch
barren zephyr
In real life the dilo weighed about 880 pounds
covert birch
lighter is legacy iirc
barren zephyr
big boy
fathom harness
Dilo already has one of the best if not best night vision and phenomenal bleed. I don't see why it should be buffed stat wise. Maybe size/muscle wise with a remodel to make it look better, along with some tweaks so that it fits in with its niche as a nocturnal predator.
All dinos have their advantages and disadvantages, making dilo geared towards not only nocturnal hunting and bleeding out prey, but making it a daytime hunter and beefier- Seems like a bit much to me, but feel free to persuade me otherwise.
As long as Dilo can live through the day without starving, I don't see why it should be good at daytime hunting- at least not to the degree that it is capable of at night. A group of Dilos at night are rather terrifying, considering their speed, vision, and bleeding capability.
Plus just because it's the apex of its time doesn't mean it will be epic/buff af on the Isle- a place where strong dinos from all different eras and settings exist.
Idk just my two cents on the idea. Couldn't really tell if the suggestion was talking about just a beefier model or actually changing to stats to make it a cathermal hunter with strength and bleed.
covert birch
Dilo is one of the best in legacy sure
But it like all creatures will get a rework in its addition to evrima so that argument doesnt really apply
especially since its high bleed is getting reworked into some venom, and bleed itself is changing
and it is already good at daytime hunting
its just better at night
fathom harness
^ exactly.
covert birch
I dont see how that stops dilo from just being upsized to fit hte newer estimates
with a bit of a larger stat pool compared to that of utah
barren zephyr
Mhm
covert birch
like there isnt much of an issue
And can differentiate it from troodon a bit more who will also use venom
barren zephyr
I mainly want a better model because the dilo right now, dont get me wrong it looks nice, but it looks super flimsy.
Especially for such a heavy dino, in real life
fathom harness
So are you proposing a remodel for Dilo or buffing it?
Because I could get behind a remodel for sure, and totally behind a rebalance of its stats- not sure about making it beefy, a bleeder, have venom, and amazing at night hunting night-vision wise.
covert birch
I want it to be an overall larger animal when reworked into evrima
covert birch
The model being larger would be part of making it an overall larger animal
lilac swallow
it still amazes me how people think dilo cant hunt at day in legacy
arctic nimbus
Yeah, rework. Make it bulky rather than frail.
barren zephyr
I haven't seen all the dino stats so of course, and it's not even released so nobody knows how a dilo would play out with all other dinos
fathom harness
It can, its just downright deadly at night.
barren zephyr
I love the idea of it being a night predators
covert birch
Its barely any more deadly during the day then at night
fathom harness
Same! @barren zephyr
barren zephyr
But it shouldnt be an easy meal at day time
lilac swallow
i know, but it seems peoiple think "worse at day"=bad which isnt the case
barren zephyr
Also, if they remodel dilo and give him true size, it looks better a dilo beating an utah, dondi said he wants dilo beating utah in a fight
fathom harness
^
covert birch
hell on v3 you can see easily at nighttime if your monitor isnt dark as hell
Thenyaw is a diff story ofc
barren zephyr
Dilo was an apex predator, if i remember correctly. So it should have an even if not better stance at beating a utah
fathom harness
So, combat wise, can yall tell me what yall would want for Dilo vs insert dino name in vs %?
covert birch
its fucked by rex
lilac swallow
utah was also an apex, in fact almost every isle carni was an apex
covert birch
Dilo should be statwise between utah and cerato
fathom harness
Like Dilo would win 60 % of the time vs Utah, etc, as an example.
covert birch
With venom over biteforce
barren zephyr
Im aware a lot of dinos were apex, im just saying dilo shouldn't be a flimsy easy meal for a utah
troodon was the apex of its time?
or velo?
or ptera?
or cera?
covert birch
none of those were
lilac swallow
it seems that the word "almost" lost it s meaning
barren zephyr
someone said this
fathom harness
Most of the larger ones are, and Cera wasn't because it contended with Allo
barren zephyr
I know
I'd love to see dilo get a remodel though, can't wait to see how it'll turn out when its done
abstract lark
Also dilo will be more a bite, run and wait for your venom to work wonders
barren zephyr
Hit and run strat
abstract lark
^
Lets say for a utah a dilo would probably just stay fighting, well could
but for something bigger they want to take down let venom weaken it
ashen wasp
that vent suggestion is just chef's kiss. for the human remains bit, though, maybe itd be better to relegate the corpses to simply old, dessicated bones and maybe merc armor as well-- picked clean a long time ago by a hundred pairs of hungry jaws-- the only animals able to get nutrients from them Compsognathus and perhaps Ceratosaurus with its ossivory. but a crowd of hungry Compies makes for a welcome meal for other ravenous things that make their nests in and around abandoned structures...
covert birch
@ashen wasp you can control its direction with the alt look feature
ebon crypt
The problem with alt look though is that not many people are aware of it, let alone that it controls your special ability/alt attack. Unless new players can get a tutorial on how the controls work, not many people will know that alt can significantly increase your chances at survival/make combat easier, because certain attacks are only accessible when holding down the alt button
ebon crypt
Yeah, that was kinda my question too. It just seems to make more sense to have dodge be directional, instead of having a completely separate button for it
barren zephyr
Convivence.
ashen wasp
it would be more convenient to have it work like Utah and Tenonto's special abilities, yeah
valid elk
Anyone wanna discuss my idea?
proud coral
I think it's a great idea.
silver zephyr
water
proud coral
I was going to say maybe different islands could have special plants only found on those islands, but that wouldn't work for most herbivores since they can't swim :C
silver zephyr
trike shark
proud coral
pine cape
I would only add small ponds on each of the islands to refill water, additional there could be frogs to refill food for carnivores
valid elk
Yeah, it would be great for aquatic/semi-aquatic animals. Or fliers...or lucky herbis.
vast wolf
that moment when someone upvotes their own idea.
wind turret
I fixed it so it doesn't look so lonely
valid elk
I didn't think people would like my idea that much.
strange wave
map ideas are generally well received if they arent completely stupid and outlandish like a snow biome without a biodome
valid elk
True. My idea seems plausible for the type of enviornment we have...
barren zephyr
I wonder if dinosaurs would be able to survive in such cold climate
valid elk
Well, yeah.
paper oriole
Tail swing attacks just dont work well for most theropods since they use their tails for balance
Sucho can use his arms to shove an opponent to the ground, but a tail swing would be silly
frigid cosmos
i really like how that guy used godzilla as an example for sucho 
barren zephyr
@shut chasm Just curious where was that said?
shut chasm
I believe a little after the announcement.
I will have to reread it but so far that's what I can remember
barren zephyr
Wasn't false limping a thing a while ago?
ebon crypt
Yep, it was
sacred galleon
Can’t remember why they got rid of it, guess they had a reason to do so
ebon crypt
It was taken out a good while ago iirc, so I have no idea why it was removed 
ebon crypt
We already had a system where we could see our exact health and tbh, I like not knowing my exact health more. I mean, when you get hit by a car, do you say "Did that do 20 damage?". No, you check if you didn't die.
idle ibex
The isle is a game
mint sonnet
ebon crypt
I know that it's a game, but I still prefer the way it is now. Puts an extra layer of risk, ya know
shut chasm
Nah
Instead it should be like legacy where it says you're either suffering, hurting, severe or critical
ebon crypt
Yeah, that
idle ibex
Thats very confusing for new players
ebon crypt
Eh, not really
paper oriole
Not knowing your exact health makes you more cautious and just feels more realistic
shut chasm
But if its saying Health status: critical, you kinda know that means "Oh shit I'm about to die of heart failure or smth like that"
ebon crypt
I'm pretty sure that even new players can tell that when your status is suffering it doesn't mean anything good
idle ibex
To the least be like, hovering it over that little “critical” or “suffering” you see a 10-20% thing, to make it easier to tell for new people. Older players would just see the title of it, and know what it means.
shut chasm
Eh it's not really hard to understand when you have "Health status"
paper oriole
Yea exactly you can look at an injury and know if its serious but not like “if i lose exactly this amount of blood now i will bleed out” it's better to be kinda vague
ebon crypt
Knowing your exact health/percentage of health kinda takes away from the immersiveness. Also, again, not knowing your exact health forces players to be more careful
I just feel like incounters shouldn't be "How much damage can/would I take", but rather "Could I survive that in this state?"
idle ibex
But, if you know the percentage or roughly what it is like 10-30% or 50-70%, wouldnt that make it so you’d have to do that same thing, just with giving new people a more convenient method of knowing it. I dont think many people will differentiate “severe” from “critical” when they hear about the different damage types. (I do know the different ones come at different points of health so thats kind of pointless but,)
just something to let you more accurately see it, they arent going for on the nose saurian style gameplay. So why not add another percentage thing, like in growth.
ebon crypt
I mean, the health thing at the bottom also helps to indicate health. And there is a difference between severe and critical. Plus, the current legacy system is still pretty new player friendly. I'm still against the percentage idea tbh
idle ibex
I get that but, alot of people are clueless which you might have seen in evrima. They see their health but dont know how much it is, so they continue rushing in.
It kind of makes combat very easy, since you can just predict they’re gonna go in again, not knowing how much health they had in red.
ebon crypt
In evrima there is barely any way to tell your health iirc. Once something else gets added (like the health status report) then people will have a much better time. And if you can't tell what your health is by, I don't know, seeing the blood creep on the screen and the big, flashing, red bar at the bottom of your character menu, that's on you
paper oriole
People can just learn the difference between severe and critical the hard way
vast wolf
bilbo there are already trails in evrima meant to be major highways.
oak folio
i think he means if you walk through tall grass it makes like a trail
but yeah there are some i read it fully too now and there are trails meant to be major highways.
dark bronze
Idk why my thing got so much negative feedback. I'm not even asking for sniff animations, just the ability to hold down q for creatures like Theri and Alberto and have things glow and get the compass
oak folio
cuz its legacy
and i may add sandbox dinos not meant to be survival cuz there broken and or just a test of that dinosaur
ashen elm
No resources should be wasted on Legacy.
covert birch
Instead of adding ai which may slow down future updates
Actually add playables
barren zephyr
Whyre people so against this lol
Its literally just fixing bugs that can't make you launch the game
narrow ingot
I like the sucho pouch idea 👌👌👌
covert birch
Why waste time developing something that will be tossed @barren zephyr
barren zephyr
Legacy is keeping the isle afloat right now while evrima is being developed
I dont see how fixing a few launching bugs causes any issues
Not like you need to recode the game for it l0l
covert birch
Whether the bugs are small or large ide rather then actually focus on correcting bugs in the version that they want to work on
Instead of well, wasting time (which for bug fixing ya dont really know how fast or slow it is to find and fix an issue) on the old going to be deleted version
barren zephyr
It's not like it's some intensive in game bug, just a launching bug. Kind of sucks though. Guess you're right.
winged ember
Sucho smash idea sounds cool but not the right attack for him. Sucho should use his claws because he is mainly a fisher. Tail Smash (for Carnivore) is a really cool idea but not for sucho
covert birch
How tf would one regulate the age of those who join the server
honest anchor
Not sure. xD
Don't know if steam has age authentication or not. May just be a fairy tale wish.
Just don't like playing games with most kids is all. Not that adults these days are any more mature I suppose.
frigid cosmos
arctic nimbus
What's the issue with kids playing in the same server though? Its not like global chat is enabled so they can bother anyone, and its just a waste of time to create yet another official server just because one person doesn't like playing in the same server as kids.
Also, as Blue said, monitoring who is too young to join a server would be impossible to do. Its just extra work.
lilac swallow
By asking for a kidless server so you dont have to deal with people you dont like you are, ironically, making yourself look like a kid
peak wedge
Some kids are annoying in chat but tbh all the ones ive actually played with who are obvious because of their voice are pretty chill, maybe get a bit loud when attacked or stats are low but overall ive only seen annoying kids in chat which as people have said before is disabled on official
covert birch
I mean
Isnt a simple solution muting/murdering those you consider childish
glossy dock
I don’t think it’s worth wasting time on
pale prairie
@arctic nimbus global chat is enabled on official servers.
i get where jade is coming from, it does get annoying.
but at the end of the day.. you can just ignore them or hide chat.
glossy dock
How about just a mute option
pale prairie
we had that in legacy.
glossy dock
I feel like that’s a better solution
pale prairie
wouldn't mind seeing it return in evrima.
glossy dock
Wait that was in legacy?
pale prairie
yes.. you could mute players in legacy.
glossy dock
I played 300 hours and never knew that
pale prairie
it's one of the options next to players on the player list (tab)
pale prairie
i wasn't agreeing with the suggestion.
but eh, yeah, global is enabled on all servers in evrima.
glossy dock
@brittle pelican they do?
brittle pelican
@glossy dock i was asking if they could or should.
glossy dock
They always have been able to
brittle pelican
no, atm the actually crouch. like squating.
a couple clips from this show a new crouch. where the creatures are still standing but have their heads down.
but currently the only playable we have a the utah and it has the same old squatting crouch.
barren zephyr
The squatting crouch looks super awkward
brittle pelican
agreed
glossy dock
That’s only like that because the dinosaurs literally couldn’t crouch
brittle pelican
so u disagree that creatures like utahs and carnos should stalk, and instead should squat?
glossy dock
No they should be they way they are now
brittle pelican
so squat
glossy dock
Yeah
brittle pelican
...
glossy dock
Not carno
It wouldn’t be able to do that in real life
But the Utah would easily be able to do that
brittle pelican
other than outright sitting in a nest ive never seen any bird squat that i can think of. just curious what makes u so sure which ones could and could not?
...either way, just wanted to see what others thought about some of the smaller creature using the stalk and not just rex/spino. maybe catch an animator's eye, fingers crossed.
honest anchor
My conure squats when snuggling
glossy dock
Look at the Utah’s legs, from what they look like they should be able to retract all the way
Carno, Rex, Spino would have trouble staying in a position like a squat
frigid cosmos
oh no
oh no
ashen wasp
oh, actually in life large dromaeosaurs like Utah and Dakota aren't able to move prone like that-- no dinosaur alive can crouch-walk, either. too much strain on knees, ankles, legs in general. in a way having the "stalk" animations for Allo, Spino, etc. is more accurate than the previous crouch anims.
i can forgive the crouching Utah, Troodon, etc because accuracy is not this game's intended goal, but i think it's the right creative decision to give Carno a stalk animation like Allo and Spino-- pursuit predators don't really need to hide themselves to the extent of more ambush-oriented ones
silver zephyr
oh no
oh no
paper oriole
Nice another peepeepoopoo suggestion to add to the archives
Also with the bleed suggestion it would only be a straight up trail if the dinosaur is bleeding profusely and is likely to be dead/dying. The splotches/droplets make sense already otherwise
If it was different delending on the severity itd be neat
ashen wasp
^^^
ivory ferry
@civic sparrow that could be an interesting mechanic and would probably help in giving smaller creatures the advantage when running from larger Dinos!!
civic sparrow
@ivory ferry yeahhh!!
oak folio
that suggestion made me laugh a little ngl
civic sparrow
that suggestion made me laugh a little ngl
@oak folio how come? XD
Wait are you talking about the shitting suggestion lmfao
mellow sphinx
I don’t think animals under Dibble could survive a bite from Deinosuchus ngl
If they’re drinking and get pulled in by the head especially
strange wave
but really who wouldnt want to see a utah get nabbed by a fully grown deino then ripped to pieces
civic sparrow
Still that mechanic would work well with the bigger things
soft hedge
@mellow sphinx yeah they wouldn't survive a full deino but one half grown would probably have to grab and drown a dryo/utah rather than just instant kill it
mellow sphinx
Oh yeah ofc
silver zephyr
current grouping is fine
mellow sphinx
I feel like making it so you can see your group members, regardless of distance takes away difficulty from the game. Sure, it's useful when you've recently spawned so that you can find one another (I assume you also want to be able to invite from across the map?), but if you're playing with friends/a group, I consider that a commitment, like you shouldn't be in a group with someone that you're across the map from. It also kinda makes it ez mode
silver zephyr
its just that there is no landmarks to actually locate other players well
mellow sphinx
They should just make a map so you can tell other players where you are, since everyone pretty much uses vulnona anyway.
silver zephyr
atm the biggest issue with grouping isnt actually grouping itself but the lackluster map with not many landmarks
mellow sphinx
yeah
hopefully spero will be much better, and from the streams id say it will be
if we ever actually get it
silver zephyr
also like ive hear others say before is that grouping is to stay together and nesting is to get together
groupings purpose was never to locate other players from across the map with ease (i assume)
obviously nesting isnt in yet
mellow sphinx
yeah nesting goes hand in hand with grouping
silver zephyr
but wanting to change the mechanic entirely when its only really bad due to other things besides itself is dumb imo
also the steam friends spawning closer thing which iirc is planned
lemme just summarize
The new grouping system itself isn't bad in the slightest. Its just other factors like the lackluster map, lack of nesting, and lack of the steam friends spawning thing (if that happens). Which drag it down.
mellow sphinx
that steam friends spawning closer together thing will be great rather than making grouping ez mode
proud coral
I think the only change it needs is needing to hold the 2 call to invite someone so that you can still show that you're friendly without inviting someone.
silver zephyr
my idea
proud coral
barren zephyr
I suggested a DM tab that would be helpful if you wanna share your coords with someone without needing to give your position away in Global or Local, but idk
ebon crypt
I have an idea about grouping and maybe how it can work with the names and stuff. I'll drop it in feedback a little later
silver zephyr
I mean bilbo if your giving out coords to someone with the new system they are most likely your friend you have contact with through discord or basic messages
since you cant invite across the map idk if it would be that useful
oh also new grouping gives calls a standard use outside of their basic meaning
silver zephyr
3 call kicking players when
silver zephyr
silver zephyr
oak folio
i meant the poop one
pale sorrel
@raven kernel Good suggestion. I've made a much more in-depth one on the 5th of this month, but I didn't actually think of the whole territorial side to it.
ebon crypt
I still don't understand why people want shit and piss in this game so bad. We already have multiple ways of tracking others (Footprints and Food leftovers), and marking your territory is practically useless unless you want to die. I mean, sure, other big carnivores that might try to compete for food will know that you're there, but your food source will also know that. Basically, that mechanic doesn't just add nothing new, but it also hinders gameplay.
strange wave
@barren zephyr pannoniasaurus is better, it can defend itself against things like austro
safe galleon
Also funny name
silver zephyr
bork you mean the fish?
strange wave
suffer
oak folio
i kinda like Vancleavea ngl. But i dont think it should be in the isle
peak wedge
How big is it? Cause if its compy sized i dont think thatll be much fun, taco sized tho or bigger i can see it being viable. Itd be very very rng based unless ai started going in water more as well
I also dont know about it giving buffs. That sounds kind of abusable, you know, a dino and one of those in a group where the dino fights and then heals with the Van. I feel like itd be more suited imo to a swarm attack with like 30 of them where they all attach onto something and drain its blood, which applies nonpermanent stacking bleed, where when they fall off you start to heal. So while one would be barely noticable to something like a sucho 30 would be deadly but if they drop off before you're dead itll be fine
ebon crypt
Also, this was my first time using Google docs, so if something isn't working, please let me know
ebon crypt
Oop- hang on, let me try to fix that, somehow
arctic nimbus
fetus deletus lmfao
best achievement
silver zephyr
fetus deletus
ebon crypt
Oh yeah, and I'm also taking name suggestions, so if anyone has an idea for a better name, please let me know. There was only so much I could do
safe galleon
NO MERCY achievement when you kill every growth stage of a dinosaur
still raptor
I cant believe you put fetus deletus
arctic nimbus
Pigeon Plugger - Kill docktahs
ebon crypt
Mmm, see, I feel iffy about 'kill x' achievements since they might promote killing for no reason. That's kinda why I changed the apex predator one to 'eat' and not 'kill'. So maybe if there's a way to make the achievement only count if you kill and then eat at least some bites from the body, then maybe
still raptor
Another bites the dust - (if your dinosaur starves or dehydrates to death)
safe galleon
Forgot the brakes? - run off a cliff
ebon crypt
Yeah, I was thinking about adding achievements for most of the ways you can die in the game. Maybe I'll add that one
safe galleon
Look at all those chickens - be in a group of 10+ hyspsis
still raptor
This one is a joke. DONT USE THIS ONE BECAUSE WE DONT KNOW IF IT WILL BE IN THE GAME
Tarbo.... (Grow a full adult alberto)
rigid gate
ebon crypt
Actually, the joke tarbo suggestion could be funny for the elder alberto achievement. I'll add that, at least for now
safe galleon
How did we get here? - have every possible debuff/buff/effect in the game at the same time
still raptor
Multi David: Big game hunting - Kill a rex
safe galleon
Right through the heart - pounce a trike in the face and get stabbed on its horns
rigid gate
tainted love- kill a dinosaur you have made a nest with
safe galleon
Cant stop won’t stop - use 100% of your stamina
still raptor
i really want Aerial Threat - Dive bomb as any pterasaur and live
rigid gate
timber- destroy x amount of trees
safe galleon
1... 2... 3... and you’re out! - knock X amount of dinos down as carno
still raptor
how bout "this doesn't look right?"
rigid gate
a whole new world- fly over every biome
safe galleon
Clipped wings - kill a ptera while its flying
covert birch
achievements that can just be farmed via killing friends or something shouldnt exist
silver zephyr
Eggcelent - Make it to full adult as oviraptor only consuming eggs.
ebon crypt
Gilbert just pumping out good ideas
safe galleon
Will you shut up? - use your calls until you’re throat is sore
still raptor
YE
ebon crypt
achievements that can just be farmed via killing friends or something shouldnt exist
Yeah, I know, that's why I'm asking for help with "balancing" these suggestions. Could you point out which ones in particular?
covert birch
i did do this shithole of a suggestion ages ago tho
Take some ideas from that
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/698344855067164723
literally every single one in combat
liek for bones of steel
make it heal bones applied from other animals or something
safe galleon
A healthy diet - eat your dinos preferred food
covert birch
so you cant just fall 12 inches and heal off
And dont make achievements something exceedingly simple either
Like just eating food
safe galleon
ebon crypt
Eh, depends, but if players want to play it like that then so be it. Again, these are merely to give the devs suggestions, but I can definitely see where you're coming from
silver zephyr
covert birch
Achievements should be well
an actual achievement
Not something youll do instantly when you spawn in'
silver zephyr
idea plugging
arctic nimbus
Reverse card - kill a nocturnal hunter as a diurnal animal
silver zephyr
vor
covert birch
The discover a biome one being an example
ebon crypt
I know, that's why I put in the varying dificulty bit. This is just brainstorming
covert birch
you literally spawn in
Hey look you discovered a plains pog
ebon crypt
It's mostly to try to promote exploration, but again, I think just having the single "discover all biomes" is enough
covert birch
i feel like the only achievement for exploration should be finding all human buildings
exploring the entire map
and like idk finding lil hidden easter eggs
safe galleon
Pue statues
covert birch
nah
silver zephyr
Home Run - Kill a utahraptor mid pounce.
still raptor
I accidentally put it in the wrong chat LMAO
ebon crypt
I honestly would love to add better ones, but the main problem being that we still have limited information. I'm hoping that with more information there can be much more rewarding achievement ideas too
still raptor
I put it in feedback
covert birch
like theres a special differently shaped plant herbis can eat in only 1 lil cave or something
and you get the achievement treestars
shit like that
hidden easter eggs to other dinosaur media
still raptor
so anyways i said Become Acidified when you spit something as a hypsi but you have something similar
safe galleon
Fruit salad - eat every plant
ebon crypt
I'm going off the info that we have now. Again, I'd love to add more dificult ones, but I'm very limited with what I can work with here.
silver zephyr
(idk wtf to call this) - Grow to adult only eating plants that arent apart of your diet.
ebon crypt
Frankly, Gilbert has been coming up with some more interesting ones. But, again, this is pretty much a list of as much of what I can think of. It will be edited and hopefully we can have more to work with and remove the super easy ones
arctic nimbus
Pigeon Plugger when 😎
silver zephyr
plunger
covert birch
nesting ones would be good
anything from nesting x amount of different kids
to having said kids reach adulthood
I also think achievements should grant cosmetic rewards (the alt skins we were told about who are dlc for some reason)
ebon crypt
Yeah, that be cool
safe galleon
Hats in the isle like tf2 when
silver zephyr
nest and raise a child to full adult as every dino achievement
covert birch
like if ya die of age as elder rex 3 times in a row ya get tarbo skin
silver zephyr
still raptor
Last man standing - Be the last dinosaur standing(alive) in a particular fight.
When you respawn it should say something like "Second Chance"
ebon crypt
So far, I'm thinking that the suggestions that should stay are the reach elder ones (maybe to give players more motivation to try out other playables), the find all biomes one (To give players more motivation to explore) and rare events (like the northern lights or rare plants, something to make the player feel more special. Like, "Wow, I found this rare thing, cool!" or something)
outer condor
Dedication - play as pela for more than five minutes
safe galleon
ebon crypt
I'm thinking something like Gilbert's "Fruit salad" suggestion, but it's eat every type of food. So it's a collective one, as in you can't do it in one lifetime. What would the name for that one be though?
silver zephyr
Savior - KOS every pela that spawns
arctic nimbus
^ I genuinely want this
arctic nimbus
Ah, but you see, Pela bad, so its ok
silver zephyr
^
ebon crypt
That'll do
silver zephyr
Vore
still raptor
Endless hunger should be what happens to you when you eat too much and when your food depletes faster
safe galleon
Bottomless pit
ebon crypt
The names are still subject to change, so
still raptor
Bottomless pit
If they add another death pit again
safe galleon
Fully charged
Ecstatic
1 in 500 000
Shocking!
These are all for if you get hit by lightning if that’s gonna be a thing
Altough getting hit by lightning would suck
ebon crypt
It could be funny with the game pretty much mocking you for dieing. But hey, at least you died in a rare way
silver zephyr
Dumbass - Drown as deino
ebon crypt
Honestly, achievements that mock you for certain actions could be fun
still raptor
lol
silver zephyr
No no alt run required - kill an apex as a utah
still raptor
A good night one would be "I don't fear the darkness"
ebon crypt
Yeah, but I'm not sure how you would get it
still raptor
Dont use night vision for the entire night cycle? IDK
ebon crypt
Eh
still raptor
Quick snack - steal a meat piece from a body as a small carnivore
actually a better name for that would be Tasty Treat
You can decide
ebon crypt
Maybe a little too easy?
still raptor
Or meat thief- steal meat from x amount of corpses
arctic nimbus
Splatter - Land too fast as a Pterosaur and explode
outer condor
Garbage can - Eat half of the roster as compy or cerato
still raptor
Marksman - (Kill 300 dinosaurs with a rifle)
ebon crypt
We still don't know much about the humans and their objectives, so let's hold back on those for now
still raptor
A cannibal achievement?
silver zephyr
Make it to full adult only cannibalizing
outer condor
silver zephyr
Make it to full adult only eating juvis
still raptor
For nesting you can do "All grown up" when you decide to leave your parents.
ebon crypt
Could be cool, but how would the game know that?
still raptor
By leaving the group
ebon crypt
I mean, you could get nested in and then leave immediately, and rejoin after
still raptor
You would have to leave and never come back.
ebon crypt
You can do that also
azure wadi
The achievement list looks really good
peak wedge
Bones of steel is worded weird
Heal a broken from other animals leg x times.
Besides that it looks good!
ebon crypt
Oh yeah. Blue simply mentioned that it should be from a separate creature, as in you haver to recover your leg which was broken in battle and not from a fall. Could've worded that better, thanks for pointing it out!
safe galleon
name for entering the jungle
in the jungle, the might jungle...
ebon crypt
To be honest, I'm considering the finding biome achievements being for finding all of them and very specific ones (like rare, unnatural, dangerous ones), so I might remove those entirely, but I'm keeping them in for now
abstract lark
why blue
outer condor
Ain't no mountain high enough - Reach the highest peak on a mountain
covert birch
how bout we dont add mechanics making people just want to commit suicide
like 100% once you get perma bb'd
People will just yeet that dino off the nearest cliff
covert birch
that works fine
abstract lark
changed it
safe galleon
profishional - catch 100 fishes
silver zephyr
fishes
frigid cosmos
sheeps
ebon crypt
So, how yall feel about a "Getting over it" easter egg?
silver zephyr
peak wedge
Thalassophobia-
Be ambushed by a Deinosuchus as a land creature (If they add being pulled underwater by deino)
covert birch
Thalassophobia-
Be killed by a giga
peak wedge
🙂
outer condor
peak wedge
Worn down-
Be attacked by the same player as the same dino for 10 minutes
paper oriole
Upvoting your own suggestion 
peak wedge
Twice
peak wedge
Teach me the ways of the double upvote
paper oriole
Hax
arctic nimbus
HOW???
narrow ingot
From Looking at vice suggestion...even though I like vancleavea ...i wouldn't mind seeing him as a.i creature rather than being a playable. They give me vibes of a leech/ cookie cutter shark role( possibly spawning in small groups..and being somewhat aggressive when it latches/or bite players) but also just being a possible food item food item for adult/ sub beipi and small deinos.
paper oriole
He would be neat ai, tho there'd be no harm in letting him be a player option too even if he is designed as ai
Would add a bit of good variety aside from just fish
outer condor
Amphibians when
barren zephyr
frogs when
outer condor
Same thing
barren zephyr
paper oriole
I want the tweezer man
barren zephyr
burn it
paper oriole
Lmao
outer condor
If it's a amphibian then I support it
paper oriole
I think he is
narrow ingot
But also regarding another suggestion about koolasuchus...i think he's chad. Best amphibian imo and he looks more recognizable and distinguishable bc he looks nothing like deino.
paper oriole
I want a primary fish muncher at some point too, our current aquatic roster seems to prefer land prey
Prion would be a good piscivorous aquatic
Koola seems like he'd be the small tier deino, ambushing small dinos swimming or drinking
covert birch
Also just my personal opinion but i'd rather see prion than koola
cursed
masto is less bad tho
prio is just fucking deino sized gharial
outer condor
I just want amphibians for diversity
paper oriole
I mean yeah he's basically just a giant salamander in a gharial suit but thats somewhat my point, he isnt well adapted to ambushing land animals and instead feeds almost solely on other aquatics, which makes him different
frigid cosmos
the funny
narrow ingot
Since that person stated it as a possible a.i option then i would want koola to be ambush hunter like waiting for juvie deino players to get close (as it is buries under the sand..maybe allow it to be seen slightly with a bit of its back being shown so it can maybe be avoidable if the players pays enough attention) ...but when something gets too close it attacks and tries to eat them basically...and if found( because of the burrowing camouflaging ability making him hard too see)..then could be a snack for not only adult deinos but also spino as well.