but even dondi wants to move away from the whole "tiers" thing
#general-feedback-discussion
icy lion
keen estuary
It actually could cause a rex would take the tail to the face as it reach down or in the leg
covert birch
The 6 ton stego (tan color) i can agree would count as an apex
but the 4 ton smaller dark green i would not
Gamer, why would a rex actively lower its head near the tail of a stego
sounds like suicide to me
Ok so, unless the rex is actively wanting to die
That tail isnt high enough to hit any vitals like the head
and until an organ system is in, which is wayyy into the future, itll stay like that
keen estuary
An it's not like mr stego is going to stand there and let ot bite it
covert birch
Ok wait lemme rephrase something, that stego will be apex since its the largest herbivore, but in the grand scheme of the enitre roster
No it aint apex, that stego is a midtier
keen estuary
And still like anky would be an apex
covert birch
Anky wouldnt be apex, it would fall more on psuedo apex, again referring to the grand scheme of the entire roster
Especially new rhino anky we gettin
whos traded flexibility for armor
Which helps it since otherwise it wouldve had animation issues
keen estuary
It was legit meant to be an apex killer and ur saying it's not an apexgod ur so stupid
covert birch
"Killer"
it broke a leg and walked away
icy lion
covert birch
and last i checked people dont die when they break their legs in this game
dont use real life as a manner to justify things in this game
especially when our anky looks like this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/737405580196708463/Anky3.png
keen estuary
That would kill them do not understand a rex can't be oh like oh I broke my leg time to go to the hospital to fix it
covert birch
which again
Literally was said to have traded its armor for mobility
That would kill them do not understand stand a rex can't be oh like oh I broke my leg time to go to the hospital to fix it
in this video game rex sits down for 15 minutes and heals it off
icy lion
thats not how bb works in game though
covert birch
actively ignoring that this is a video game and a slow painful death of starvation from a broken leg would be terrible game design
keen estuary
It would ur dumbass fault in my opinion that ur leg broke
covert birch
What
Again, having bonebreak be = death of an animal in this video game
Would be terrible game design
A slow painful death from starvation b/c you cant hunt is literally the most boring worthless way to die
icy lion
that doesnt change that bb isnt an instant death sentence
theres no reason to have something like that in game
covert birch
And again,
Im talking about the animal in the scope of the game
Ik anky was the apex for its time
or at least one of them
keen estuary
Learn from it and move on and people whining about it is what ruins every game
icy lion
what
covert birch
He is saying bb should be a death sentence
and the fact that it isnt is ruining this game
covert birch
Gamer do you play legacy?
have ya ever stubbed your toe on a rock then broke your leg
imagine every time that happened you died, how annoying that would be
honest sparrow
🍿
covert birch
ptera moment
keen estuary
And I'm srry a club like that would more shatter ur leg
silver zephyr
just dont stub your toe lol 
icy lion
yes it will shatter your leg
but bb works different in game than irl
covert birch
Ok, i get in real life it would shatter a rexs leg
But this again isnt irl and that should be how it functions
If you wish to be an apex killer then gladly stay behind and combat the apex after you broke its legs
lets see how well you do
100% wont go your way especially since yaknow
Dondi said herbis like pachy/anky will be using bb as an escape tool, and if they stay too long after theyll get gibbed
but hey
Lets live out that apex killin desire and ignore the fact this isnt just a combat game
keen estuary
Cause dondi hates ankys with a passion
covert birch
False statement
silver zephyr
like dondi hates ceratos
keen estuary
No it's a true statement
keen estuary
He does hate ceratos but he hates ankys more
icy lion
no dont bring up cera fulgore nooooo
covert birch
The anky wars situation was another dev
the fact anky isnt a literal god is simply for balance purposes within a video game
That is about it
Adding what people perceive as irl anky would be adding quite the overpowered animal ingame and that in itself is an issue
honest sparrow
Dondi hates all herbis
covert birch
mfw para is one of his fav dinos
icy lion
same could be said for most irl versions of dinos
icy lion
and yea he said he likes para and maia lol
keen estuary
So would spino
covert birch
he is fond of hadros
IRL spino would be shit lol
for a completely different sleuth of reasons
keen estuary
No it actually wouldn't
keen estuary
Spino and rex would be an par with each other
icy lion
we're all talking about 2020 spino right? 2020 spino is a weak lad
honest sparrow
Really depends tbh, but I just find the lack of large water sources to be irl spino’s downfall
covert birch
what
silver zephyr
Spino and rex would be an par with each other
jp moment
icy lion
irl spino does not look like isle or jp spino
keen estuary
Do u not understand spino jaws
icy lion
it looks like a trout with legs
covert birch
Fun fact
Jurassic parks spino isnt accurate
Nor is isles spino
icy lion
do you understand rexs?
honest sparrow
Spino jaws are long af with conical teeth why?
keen estuary
Yes I do more than u do
icy lion
..right
covert birch
IRL spino is
A stubby legged,
conical toothed
short limbed
newt tailed
big clawed
Fisherman/swimmer
icy lion
TINY legs dude
covert birch
very
honest sparrow
It’s basically a giant seal that bullies shit
covert birch
Imagine this
But the tail also has a sail
icy lion
covert birch
there it is
icy lion
little arms, thin mouth
keen estuary
It could of actually killed it the same way as it did in hp but cause of its jaws
covert birch
false
icy lion
very wrong
covert birch
Simply b/c spinos legs arent tall enough to get into that position
keen estuary
People who don't understand animals
honest sparrow
Spino’s teeth are meant for holding on to stuff, not really tearing or crushing iirc
covert birch
yes, you
keen estuary
Exactly
silver zephyr
?
icy lion
idek if hes talking about like... the biteforce or the teeth or what
covert birch
He is talking about grabbing the rexs head with spinos mouth
Then snapping its neck
Cuz thats what jp spino did
icy lion
LKJSBGAHGIUTBF;JKL
covert birch
Which again
Isnt possible whatsoever
icy lion
that tiny little man
keen estuary
The rex couldn't get its jaws off it once it closed it
covert birch
Gamer,
The spinos teeth would simply break lol, conical teeth arent made for well
What occured in that scene
honest sparrow
The fight was meant to go in spino’s favor
For the sake of the plot
The only reason it even fought T. rex was because they wanted to make an impression on the audience with the new big carnivore
icy lion
something built like a barrel of raw muscle isnt getting its (massive, oversized, gigantic) neck snapped by a fish
keen estuary
You know tired of dealing with filthy rex lovers always can't understand anything
icy lion
you sound young so i dont want to be rude
covert birch
I personally hate rex
icy lion
but this is very amusing
covert birch
Much more a fan of animals like baryonyx and spino
icy lion
rex sucks dude
covert birch
spinosaurids are generally my favorite family too
keen estuary
Ur probs 12 my dude
honest sparrow
Out of all the apexes, I just like giga lol
icy lion
giga is tolerable
keen estuary
Bullshit
icy lion
i dont like playing bigs in general
covert birch
i got like 500 hrs on bary lol
icy lion
sucho is my fave atm but ill have to see how it is in evrima
covert birch
wish they chose bary instead of psuedo apex sucho but hey
silver zephyr
icy lion
feels weird adding dinos that big so soon
honest sparrow
Bary, Austro, herra, and dryo mostly tho
icy lion
like... deino sucho and beipi? what?
covert birch
anyways tho
IRL spinosaurus, would not be able to kill IRL tyrannosaurus
icy lion
irl spino got shoved into lockers
covert birch
As much as i love spino
I cant fall for such a blatant lie
icy lion
jp is a paragon for accurate dino info, blue, get with the times
covert birch
He knows jp spino was inaccurate
he just said the way it killed rex wasnt for some reason
Prolly cuz he is one of those fanbois who make everything they like op without actually thinking logically for a second
Who else do ik thats like this
honest sparrow
Also, resorting to assuming we’re twelve and calling us Rex shills is just plain pathetic
covert birch
I mean super did the age thing first
icy lion
yea my b
honest sparrow
Shame lol
icy lion
but i dont like being spoken down to on something i know about
covert birch
But either way, how he reacted to cerato not being in and saying "ill leave the game if it doesnt happen sooner"
is showing his age a bit imo
icy lion
lemme find something
And too see rexes come out before them although as ai but still before cerato AI at least it made feel like u threw 100s of cans lighter fluid on my already raging fire of anger
honest sparrow
I get being upset rex ai which is a bit weird to put in got in before x dino, but generally just roll with it, with the new way the team is being transparent, I’m sure cerato will be in soon
barren zephyr
don't bother with the guy. he was just a salty cerato main
dealt with him the other day
languid crown
Closeted Cerato man comes out?
covert birch
allo kids beat the fuck outa him anyways lol
icy lion
always have, always will
languid crown
Cerato rex when
silver zephyr
keen estuary
cause i talked about how i was unhappy not to see ceratos in the roadmap and all he did was fuel the fire and like i was the bad guy
taco is an instigator so be careful if sees he can get to u he will
silver zephyr
i mean taco was just joking around and you took it seriously
covert birch
talked to taco quite a bit
hes pretty chill lol
honest sparrow
Taco’s alright
keen estuary
u know in my opinion it didnt sound like that to me
silver zephyr
he was joking tho that time
tbh taco was cool but he likes acro so he went down the cool list
honest sparrow
Acro> every other big dino
silver zephyr
icy lion
how about: big dinos suc
keen estuary
i just dont like when someone talks crap on my fav dino like that
silver zephyr
what?
keen estuary
cerato
icy lion
i dont think its that deep
silver zephyr
its a dinosaur
honest sparrow
Cerato is currently not well balanced at all
keen estuary
cause of the devs
silver zephyr
he was also simultaneously shit talking his favorite dino acro as well that time
its a dinosaur in a video game it aint that deep
keen estuary
but comparing them is like comparing apples to oranges
silver zephyr
what
covert birch
Cerato bad
dies to papercuts
silver zephyr
worse allo lol
covert birch
cant wait for new badass cerato tho
icy lion
cerato is just little :c
covert birch
fuckin hyena-esque brawler gonna be a chad
silver zephyr
icy lion
nasty rotten meat cannibal bastard
keen estuary
allos have glass ankles at least in legacy
silver zephyr
cannibal cera good
icy lion
most dinos have glass bones tbh
keen estuary
ceratos dont as much though
covert birch
Ik why you want bb to kill people now
So allos die more
keen estuary
no rexes should die more
silver zephyr
remove maia
icy lion
everything die more
covert birch
Rexes will die more since food aint gonna be spoonfed to people anymore so no need
Same applies to my boi tho
icy lion
cant wait to see a rex get bodied by an ai steg
covert birch
Doubt
keen estuary
rex mains get thrashed by ai rex
covert birch
Yep
icy lion
think of the average capability of a generic rex player
silver zephyr
think of the average capability of a generic rex player
0
covert birch
and the stegos tail isnt even at a height of worthy locational damage multipliers
icy lion
hmmmm small stego, i forgot
keen estuary
rex players suck when not using an apex usually
covert birch
I do hope they upsize to 6 ton stego once these things are actually playable
icy lion
4 ton stego is just way too small
covert birch
Rex players play rex simply b/c its an easy dino to grow with the existance of ai spoon feeding you
4 ton stego works in the context of no apexs smalls first
sadly they skipped that
covert birch
Troodon will prolly come with nightvision n nightime n such
Or a combat update with bleed/venom/cc maybe
silver zephyr
i mean carno is gonna have a knock down ability
keen estuary
but i still dont understand the reason of rex ai unless there releasing something in number 5
icy lion
trike ai
have the big ais be self regulating
keen estuary
cause stego for suchos but really then that makes no reason for rex ai especially this early
silver zephyr
ovi before cerato pog
icy lion
at least ovi is new
i guess
silver zephyr
can sucho even take a steg?
keen estuary
its kinda dumb
covert birch
Sucho taking 4 ton stego?
I mean maybe
keen estuary
yeah they can
covert birch
Gamer dont overestimate spinosaurids who are mainly defensive on land again
maybe if it can get an ambush on the head
silver zephyr
tbh ovi being an earlier inclusion is good since it tells us more about how omnis will work also its basically tied to a core mechanic in concept
covert birch
but remember the tail is extremely flexible
stegos tail is so flexible it can hit its own head lol
A good hit from that and the suchos done
keen estuary
but they can ambush from water now
icy lion
i mean unless diets come before ovi theres nothing special about omnis tbh
covert birch
Remember that sucho is a wading animal and not a swimmer
icy lion
suchos a shoreline hunter
covert birch
Deino can plenty kill a stego tho
icy lion
i think grizzly bear was the irl comparison we were given
icy lion
comfortable in water but it doesnt live in it
keen estuary
and the can attack in water and drag it to shore
covert birch
I mean again, thats more of a deino thing but yea i guess it can
covert birch
Spinosaurids arent crocodilians lol
gotta keep that in mind
Bary and sucho were terrestrial animals who fished, similar to bears
more of a 70/30 for crocodilians
icy lion
deinos definitely getting a water ambush but idk about sucho
keen estuary
there still semi aquatic remember that
covert birch
yes but they arent as effective swimmers as lets say deino
icy lion
i wonder how well theyll dive
covert birch
sure they can swim
and they prolly swim better then the non swimmer roster
But i doubt they are gonna be somehting who want to swim
Especially with deino and spino in the waters
deino only this early on
keen estuary
they still can cause theyd probs be able to submerge i dont know if u know what i meant by ambush from water
no extra speed
icy lion
i guess water ambush would depend on their breath and stamina while swimming
outer condor
Deino overrated
covert birch
did you mean water ambush mechanically
As deino is getting
or just swimming outa water to get something
icy lion
i think the 2nd blue
covert birch
oh then yea sucho can do that
how well depends
Remember sucho isnt gonna be a main swimmer so idk how effective that would be
keen estuary
hiding under water then getting them
icy lion
youd definitely be able to snag stuff you wouldnt usually get by doing that but sucho isnt really meant to sit in water afaik
covert birch
yea sucho isnt a croc lol
thats deino
keen estuary
it would be effective enough saying that they have real good damage and ive taken out plenty of stegos as a such as a sucho in legacy
icy lion
in legacy sure
but everythings getting rebalanced, especially since theyre supposed to be mainly fishers
its possible the biteforce scales horribly compared to the size increase
keen estuary
and if u get the first two or three hits in there down which would be possible if u ambush them
covert birch
I somehow dont belive that since stego 2 shots sucho in legacy and well, is so maneuverable getting a bite by dodging the tail is quite difficult
wait no it 3 shots em
icy lion
cant really determine that until we get their new stats
icy lion
since steg is sandbox and broken, and is getting downsized, and sucho is getting upsized but its designed to kill fish now
covert birch
Slow and staminaless on land too
keen estuary
but not entirely
covert birch
ofc not entirely that would be horrid balance
covert birch
Sucho will prolly have the same buff spino is supposedly getting where walking in deep water wont slow it down
icy lion
thatd be fun
covert birch
to push that whole wader idea
keen estuary
cause even things like barys and suchos ate other things
icy lion
just not be able to hold their breath as long
yea
sucho should definitely be more than capable of land combat but steg might be pushing it, even at 4 tons
keen estuary
they should definitely be able to hold there breath longer than other dinos
covert birch
I did a thing on how the 3 spinosaurids should function a bit back
Lemme see if i can find it rq
keen estuary
and deino isnt a dino before u say it
icy lion
lol yea
silver zephyr
megalania is my favorite dinosaur
covert birch
mfw trying to spit out basic animal knowledge lol
keen estuary
thats not one either
silver zephyr
eh wrong
covert birch
Sometimes
silver zephyr
yes
icy lion
hmm
keen estuary
i was messing with him gosh u were the one taking it seriously
icy lion
tfw pela fits in better than mega
covert birch
lol
silver zephyr
bird ptera
icy lion
but birds are dinos :O
keen estuary
just imagine a rex stego hybrid
silver zephyr
covert birch
I found the 3 spinosaurids thing
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401464048610312195/724354311915700284
just imagine a rex stego hybrid
eyeseeyous made it
keen estuary
that would be a god
covert birch
icy lion
eyeseeyou our savior
keen estuary
Ankylodocus would be more deadly
cause it's tail would be a literal whip with a anky mallet
covert birch
ngl the sonic boom tail whip is cooler
keen estuary
just image it slinging that mallet fast enough to crack the sound barrier like a whip
covert birch
mallet wouldnt be able to do that
which is why the diplo didnt have one
cuz who needs a mallet when ya can do a sonic boom
keen estuary
with the combined dna its possible
cause with that mix u dont know actually how it would be but if fused together perfectly in the right way it is possible
and its tail is strong to with stand that normally without the mallet but if add anky reinforcement on top of that just right it would be able to do it no problem
heres different ways it could look depending how u join the dna
lament finch
that second pic is super cool, looks feasibly like a real creature that could function
covert birch
Damn they really failed at makin that concept ingame
lament finch
dunno if that concept art is for the jp game
tho if it is they really did just, not deliver
covert birch
Its tapwings actually
Not the games
But holy fuck it could've been so much cooler then, that
The thing they made is just shinosaurus but spikier and bigger
lament finch
they probably didn't want to make a brand new model
languid crown
rex ai should be a stalker, it just stalks you and ambushes you out of the bushes when you least expect it
rocky sable
the old rex pattern would be a cool option
keen trail
The t rex looks like a stuffed pig with apple in its mouth in that pic
rocky sable
it looks more like that cliche where the sleeping dinosaur has its mouth open and a small pterosaur or bird comes to pick the teeth
keen trail
Yeah
mellow vigil
@tepid gate just host ur own dedicated server and give yourself admin or submit the feedback via the bug report form and the QA team will look into it when we can
noble pine
@hexed gull don talked about this in a QNA, it’s planned but it might not happen due to game limitations (at least the grass staying parted, the rest is still planned)
solar iron
@lament finch Rex ai would be abused by some smol dino players for protection against bigger dino players. Ai's line of sight should be influenced by the foliage and landmarks. This way the players could hide from AI especially when they are smol.
lament finch
@solar iron I agree that would be the absolute best way for it to be coded, I just don't know how a line of sight could be coded into ai. I'd only want something along the lines of certain dinos being ignored if its impossible to make foliage and landmarks block ai targetting
covert birch
pretty sure amarock mentioned like all ai having a vision level or something
But dont quote me on that
solar iron
@lament finch dont use the legacy ai as a reference since it is like a beta as well
lament finch
I'm not necessarily basing off of the legacy ai, more how ai is coded in general in many different games and how complex ai can get. If they can manage it though that would be both impressive and make large ai very functional
solar iron
@lament finch but ofc I know what u want to Say
lament finch
Vision levels would be cool too Blue, I imagine they have some plan for how larger ai will work to make it less of a huge hazard you can only avoid by maintaining distance
solar iron
@lament finch there are many games out there where ai's vision can be blocked by landmarks and foliage. I know it is possible
lament finch
Well then here's hoping the dev coding ai actually puts things like that in, fingers crossed
solar iron
Im pretty sure the EVRIMA ai will be much better than we experienced in legacy
lament finch
oh im sure, legacy ai is a bare minimum "run here run there" system
solar iron
Ye
Nonetheless i like your suggestion besides the "Rex just ignoring small creatures" part
lament finch
I may edit that part out tbh and put a little "only if ai vision isn't blocked by foliage/landmarks"
covert birch
No thank you @queen mortar
Ide rather not have tenos getting rapeed even more
imo it would be best to add bleed along with other combat mechanics such as CC and venom
i do agree on the server thing tho
queen mortar
@covert birch fine. teno CC is just as important, put both things in. at this early time i think they’re nearly equally as important as server stability
covert birch
Imo them focusing on crushing the server stability issues first would be much better and healthier for the game then doing the mechanics and the stability alongside eachother
And imo of all mechanics combat mechanics arent really the most important ones to be added first, diet/nutrition systems imo are much more important
Combat mechanics should be up there tho when it comes to mechanics coming in
But not top priority
cobalt compass
top prio atm is game stability, like no rubberbanding/teleporting, "memory leak" fixing and overall performance improving
things that makes your game experience more pleasant
covert birch
it should remain all terrain at all stages of its life
The only thing it should loose as adult is the capabilty to climb trees and/or enter smaller sized burrows (but still be able to dig things out)
rocky sable
juvenile megalania would possibly be a good egg thief , being able to fit most eggs in its mouth and able to run up trees to enjoy a meal
inner orbit
I just want young Komodo dragon megalania since it’s fodder in the water as a baby
So it climbs trees to avoid predation
random imp
they should be mainly a land reptile, with the ability to climb trees as juvie and possibly be able to climb rocks as well ( the more it ages the more is stamina consuming to climb stuff, to a point you are so big and heavy that it makes no sense to waste 70% of your stamina climbing a small cliff or big tree). it should be able to dig nests to eat eggs and invade burrows 'till "young subadult" and for last it should be able to swim. not as fast a aquatic/semi-aquatic animal but with a tail that big and strong it should manage to escape in water as last resort.
strange wave
it has a suit of armour, venom, a bone splintering tail whip, and burrow busting, megalania is fine
covert birch
Allo will have quite the hard time if the mega gets the tail defenses up n ready
Fuck komodos concuss water buffalo with their tail whips
Imagine a 1 ton megalania
strange wave
you forget that its really really low to the ground and can hide amazingly
night sleet
lol fully semi aquatic sounds so weird
minor dome
i want to put discord reaction emojis on videos in the videos and streams channel to express my feeling from watching whatever there.
still raptor
bad idea for reaction my guy
minor dome
vomit for bad videos that have opinions different than my own or fire for cool stuff
ashen elm
yes i agree add reactions back... especially feedback 
minor dome
why were they gone in the first place?
still raptor
people were overusing them
ashen elm
people spamming clown emote
minor dome
thats hilarious
still raptor
its annoying
frigid cosmos
㊙️ lol
ashen elm
eh... it started a lot of arguments
minor dome
sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never hurt you
ashen elm
sure but i doubt the mods and admins want to be pinged because two people won't stop arguing in chat like the clown emote wars started
anyway just allowed limited emotes to come back
minor dome
my advice to anyone who becomes affected by typed words is to turn off the screen
ashen elm
gl getting people to actually do that
covert birch
Who is enough of a dumbass to start an argument over an emote
oh wiat nvm we are the isle community
minor dome
true haha
barren zephyr
@clever bramble that suggestion seems awfully close to mine about bb
covert birch
Mfw multiple people have had pretty much the exact same bb suggestion multiple times
barren zephyr
mfw i already told you to not take me so seriously
covert birch
Mfw normally when I do mfw I am not serious
barren zephyr
mfw you constantly say mfw
covert birch
Ikr
barren zephyr
same dude
clever bramble
Mfw
solar iron
@inner orbit it must not happen! Sry, but its just not good. Gasosaurus'name honours the gasoline company that found the fossil. It would be a disaster if it would vomit gas. This way the Rexes should wear golden crowns which shines so bright that they can use it to blind their prey for a few sec, camas should have some chambers at their cozy homes where they can store a lot of food, dilos should wear two fancy shirt collars to be able to flirt with anything and ankys should be able to fuze their heads and form a circle of tail clubs
inner orbit
What?
bleak atlas
You made a ability out of its name and he dont likes it, because the name doesnt mean it could to something with Gas irl
solar iron
Yes
inner orbit
And realistically this is an excpetion
I just read the name and thought it being in game with a gas ability it would be cool
And Ik why it was named that
@solar iron who’s to say this games rl?
Not sounding rude but I’d like the question answered
Seriously I want the question answered
solar iron
No offence ofc but these things would ruin the game. Already there is the dilo which is clearly a nocturnal animal despite the fact that fossil remains do not suggest this way of life at any level. He didn’t have big eyes like nocturnal animals and, moreover, he was a big-bodied predator in his day. As a result, there was no reason to live a nightlife. Currently, the dilo is the best example of a spoiled representation, so I won't say the rest, but it would be a big mistake to make more of these playable ones.
Gasosaurus's name is honouring the gasoline company that found the fossils
@Tenzor who’s to say this games rl?
This is not a realistic game but that doesnt necessarily mean it should be like a bad joke. There will be place for these in some mod when mod support comes alive
@bleak atlas good thought
bleak atlas
they arent realistic, but they also try to not be to unrealistic i think
solar iron
Fortunately, to the best of my knowledge, even though developers don’t want to make a realistic game, their goal is not to create one that is overly unrealistic. If we’re lucky then the term “unrealistic” will mean strains and mutants / plants, environmental things will not mean the base can be played
If u catch wut i mean
inner orbit
Tbf my idea isn’t that unrealistic
It’s literally represented in nature
I genuinely don’t get your point
solar iron
Personally, I'm not a big fan of strains either, but they still fit in if I'm not required to play with them. Plus, I know there will be a server option to turn off certain things so I trust the strains as well. Despite all this, I think that unrealistic things are enough to be limited to these mutants, fictions.
@inner orbit birds are flying. Thats a fact. Elephants are big. Thats another fact. But these two facts doesnt mean flying elephants are real
random imp
I recall asking the other guy. But anyways I think im pretty sure allosaurus, alberto, etc won't have a hard times killing it face on even if it does get bit..( but i guess we'll see when its in game bc im not sure how strong it's venom is going to be) and there's still acro and the apexes..as well as presto if it makes it in game.
@hollow river first of all, chill, he/she was just stating his/her idea. I wrote that it should be able to invade nest 'till young subadult stage because the bigger it gets the harder will be to fit inside a burrow.
and as other paeople said, even if adult it has several ways to escape an allosaurus
vast wolf
@clever bramble already confirmed to happen.
honest sparrow
Cerato is the currently the only exception known
vast wolf
i see rugops and carno being cannibals.
honest sparrow
Same
clever bramble
Epic
random imp
no need to be so aggressive tho
inner orbit
What’s going on now?
honest sparrow
Stuff
vast wolf
the way the isle has the turn in place put in makes it less complex than holding down a button for a half buggy system.
random imp
the way the isle has the turn in place put in makes it less complex than holding down a button for a half buggy system.
@vast wolf the Hold button down issue i'd solve it making just clicking to enter and clicking to exit the stance
vast wolf
its still more complex than simply tapping they key.
random imp
but a thing like walking sideways to alway have the attacker under controll instead of having to turn every second 'd be more efficient on my opinion
tepid gate
@random imp I actually second that suggestion, I really think that we should be able to move sideways and backwards. This "battle stance/mode" seems like a good idea so as not to complicate the controls by adding too many buttons(which was the issue that has been pointed out when I suggested this some months ago). Now having said that, I do think it's something that could be perhaps added much later since there are obviously more important things that the dev team has to work on right now.
I genuinely don't understand why the community is so allergic to the idea of moving sideways and backwards.
ashen elm
IDK
moving sideways and backwards would also remove the need for fictionalizing animals for movement like anky which didn't really need to at all
tepid gate
Do you mean in terms of making Anky capable of just moving towards its opponent with its tail facing it?
ashen elm
That and just turning more efficiently or being able to cover options
inner orbit
Tbh moving backwards would be unrealistic for some dinosaurs but in game it would help
ashen elm
I don't think going backwards is unrealistic for any animal.
tepid gate
@mellow vigil Just going to point out that according to the rules of bug-reporting the reports from servers other than official ones are not accepted so it's a moot point. Not to mention there really shouldn't be a need for every player to create their own dedicated server to test things out(really sandbox servers should serve that purpose but creating the sandbox game mode might be a bit of a hassle for the developers now so I made that suggestion to show a possibility of making a sort of "discount sandbox server" which shouldn't require quite as much effort on the part of the devs).
This is of course assuming that the devs can actually grant only some extent of the admin commands to all the players on the server. We don't want people griefing others there after all.
inner orbit
I’ve been told walking backwards for some dinosaurs with stiffened tails wouldn’t happen
Tbh it’s probably not true
tepid gate
I'm not too sure but birds can walk backwards so I don't really see much of a reason why dinosaurs shouldn't be able to do that.
This isn't an extremely important mechanic but rather something that could be added at some point really if anything.
It could be useful in certain specific match ups depending on how the game plays out later on with the new additions.
ashen elm
It's more important the slower the animal. I suspect that's why Apato is balanced with it in BoB
random imp
well if walking backwards is a nono because it's unrealistic ( but do we have actual evidence to support this?) at least walk sideways
that's be a huge improvement for duels and stand offs
solar iron
@random imp i love your suggestion! I have been wrote this battle stance idea with animations about 1 and a half month ago
It would be a GREAT addition
ashen elm
Animals not being unable to walk backwards is a meme. Here is a bull elephant walking backwards (without looking even!) perfectly fine at around 1:55 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze5rgqAVj18&t=121s
solar iron
There is a whole lot animal which is able to walk backwards
ashen elm
Yea IDK where the team got the idea it was unnatural for animals to walk backwards
solar iron
The most common example when a dog backs off while barking
ashen elm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VtarHMd_1g
Bird (closest relative and bipedal) also doing it
solar iron
This mechanics would be great with some intimidating iddle loop animation
Intimidating posture looks better than standard posture during combat
grave karma
random imp
like, the spino's pose should be just like the one in JW:E when it's dueling
with the body angled in a way to show the sail and make it look a lot bigger and intimidating
peak wedge
They cant? It seems like itd be easy for them since they balance on their tails, just a kinda hop back and push forward thing
cobalt compass
@placid iron #roadmap-updates for link
covert birch
Personally feed a much better animal to take that "honey badger" roll would be armadillosuchus
Simply b/c it's an omnivore which we lack ingame atm
Combined with the fact it has literal armor to push that tanky/bruiser theme
tepid vigil
I do quite like the idea of adding a rausuchian to the isle but instead of rauisuchus I personally think that prestosuchus would be a better pick to fit the niche they are talking about
silver zephyr
presto has been requested a lot as well just not necessarily doing what that suggestion for raui does
vast wolf
presto is a bit massive for a badger role. largest confirmed burrowers are minmi that can make them and ava that can edit them. megalania could also be a burrow raider.
tepid vigil
yeah the second I wrote that sentence I was thinking “maybe presto is a bit to big to burrow” I agree with a burrow raider niche @vast wolf
covert birch
silver zephyr
besides the arboreal juvi presto its pretty good
tepid vigil
It’s a nice doc
solar iron
@vast wolf I also like this Spino better than what is planned
covert birch
The whole how aggressive rauisuchus looks can easily just be applied to armadillo boi
Via yaknow artistic liberties on what the animal looks
cobalt compass
@potent sparrow i like the idea, other games had emotes attached to written chat. i remember my time back in star wars galaxies were when caps chatted the char made the relative appropiate movements
barren zephyr
@hollow river I completely agree with you, armadillo suchos can be good at burrowing, but it won’t be as threatening as Rauisuchus so it can’t fit as a honey badger. A honey badger irl can face bigger animals, but in game armadillosuchus won’t do that because the dinosaurs you find are mostly humans, and they know they can win a fight despite the temperament
vast wolf
we already have cerato as a honey badger.
barren zephyr
Cerato is more like a hyena
vast wolf
the old concept on the original roadmap compared it to a honey badger. its able to take on animals that are larger than it and heal grievous wounds.
barren zephyr
It says it will be able to eat rotten gores without concern and that it will heal very grave wounds, it doesn’t say it will be able to kill bigger dinos, it will be more like a carcass bully
vast wolf
carcass bully implies honey badger like niche to me.
push other animals off their kills.
barren zephyr
Nah, honey badger is more like a burrower and little badass able to face bigger things, and hyenas are able to bully smaller predators and steal carcasses and eat them despite they’re rotten
silver zephyr
just remodel raui and make it presto
vast wolf
armadilosuchus would still end up fitting the honey badger role as good if not better than ruia then.
or you know dont include one and allow mono to do that job.
random imp
armadillosuchus is too small to compete with other bigger creatures.
even a Dryo 'd be able to destroy it
and a Dryo is basically as big as a human
barren zephyr
last i checked armadilosuchus has a literal coat of armor
vast wolf
Armadillosuchus length was estimated on 2 metres (6.6 ft) with an estimated body mass of 120 kg (260 lb).[2]
dryo is 80 kilograms
silver zephyr
also when i googled it (not very reliable i know) it says armadillosuchus is 260lbs and dryo is like 170 - 200lbs
🤷 i doubt its that far off
not to mention armadillos armor to defend itself
vast wolf
barren zephyr
isn't it suspected to burrow?
silver zephyr
you mean armadillosuchus right?
vast wolf
yes
silver zephyr
k
peak wedge
Bro i dont like that dryos that heavy
silver zephyr
i mean armadillosuchus can probably fend off most burrowers and burrow invaders besides probably ava
silver zephyr
how strong is its bite?
vast wolf
not sure but its teeth are gnarly.
barren zephyr
^
silver zephyr
so would it be a good bleeder?
barren zephyr
not really
vast wolf
more of a crusher.
silver zephyr
bonebreak
barren zephyr
didn't it eat roots?
barren zephyr
i feel like i saw something related t othat
silver zephyr
make it an omnivore anyways in the isle 
random imp
meh, it looks stupid
vast wolf
tacco has a beak.
barren zephyr
most animals look stupid
vast wolf
silver zephyr
a land crocodile with armor is badass not stupid 😎
barren zephyr
Beak means you don’t need different teeth to eat things, am I right?
vast wolf
beaks are for crushing cropping or slicing.
random imp
there are countless land crocs with armor, this one is just a midget with a plastron.
barren zephyr
larger more robust beaks
vast wolf
most dinosaurs had slicing or cropping beaks.
barren zephyr
taco most likely ate fruits or hard nuts
vast wolf
^
barren zephyr
rauisuchidae aren't exactly land crocs.
silver zephyr
raui is fine but its basically smaller presto which is an animal that I see requested way more than raui
random imp
but what could a lizard as big as a big cat do in an enviroment like the one we have in TheIsle? it can't be that fast, so it can't escape, it can't hurt back because his jaws are the size of my hand. it will burrow, but that's already a shared mechanic between several speculated other animals, it can go in water, but there are already better things for that enviroment
or you are fast and nimble as a dryo, even if you are small
or you are so small like a compy and bigger things won't even look at you
but if you are a slow quadrupedal croc even with an armor as big as a dog you are useless to the game
unless you like to be killed every 10 minutes
or you can give it the burrow mechanic but that'd make it less than unique
worldly igloo
Kaprosuchus anyone
silver zephyr
no
arctic nimbus
Did you really just say the K-word?
worldly igloo
Mmmaybe
silver zephyr
irl kapro btw
worldly igloo
Aaaaaand
silver zephyr
wdym
worldly igloo
People want armadillosuchus and that guy is around the same size as Kapro from what I have seen in the discussions that happened yesterday
Not saying it’s a bad pick
Just confused on why Kapro wouldn’t be viable
silver zephyr
yeah but most people want ark kapro which is basically prestosuchus
worldly igloo
Ooooooh
silver zephyr
and irl kapro is legit just like a normal crocodile/gator
outer condor
Ark 🤢
silver zephyr
worldly igloo
Well the thing is that all that was found of Kapro is a skull and the skull suggests that it was primarily a land predator but idk
It is confusing to me because I keep seeing sources saying Kaprosuchus is a land predator that was a pretty dangerous predator but then other sources show that he is a tiny boy
CONFUSION
worldly igloo
Yes
Very
I just wish there was a solid answer to the question is Kapro was a belly dragging water croc or a sprinting land croc
vast wolf
we wont know until we find limb material. it likely had longer legs than the crocodilans of today but it would have still belly dragged or high walked.
worldly igloo
Heck
Sooooo prestosuchus is a more likely possibility for a quadrupedal land predator
outer condor
Yea a lot people want presto
worldly igloo
PRESTO CHANGO
silver zephyr
covert birch
People want armadillosuchus and that guy is around the same size as Kapro from what I have seen in the discussions that happened yesterday
Armadillosuchus is a similar size to kapro, but actually has tools to survive the moment something like a utah sees him
while kapro well ah yes lemme just gallop away (which wouldnt even outrun a utah)even tho the horse legs thing was recently gibbed
worldly igloo
Fair enough
vast wolf
armadillo could hunker down and let its super tough armor help it.
covert birch
or burrow
silver zephyr
vast wolf
dig most of its body down and let its armor protect the top.
covert birch
or just dig and let it take the niche that the rauisuchus thing was mentioned
vast wolf
yeah burrow invading omnivore with armor.
covert birch
^
worldly igloo
What would be its matchups be though because like you said he could protect himself with his body armor when something like a Utah confronts it but because it’s smaller than even Kaprosuchus what will it be able to fight off
covert birch
most of the new small tier roster
bugger has these 2 fangs so can arguably giove it great bleed
covert birch
Wrong small tier
worldly igloo
Oh
silver zephyr
covert birch
hes practically minmi sized
so just use minmi as a frame of reference
worldly igloo
Well everything destroys troodon lol
covert birch
I mean yea lol
it aint a big animal
its not gonna be fuckin over utahs when its the size of minmi
vast wolf
it wont be killing them but wont be dying to them easily.
covert birch
just tanks the fucker as it walks away to its burrow
worldly igloo
Just vibes while they are trying to kill him
vast wolf
mono anti armor niche.
worldly igloo
Yes
silver zephyr
no
worldly igloo
Wut
covert birch
that is the most useless
specific
bad in literally any other situation
niche ever
worldly igloo
How big is Mono?
worldly igloo
I could see that happening
arctic nimbus
So basically Walmart Dilo
covert birch
burrow invader isnt a niche lol
vast wolf
laughs in velo.
covert birch
Literally antything smaller then the thing that makes a burrow
Should be able to enter said burrow
oh i guess compy is the ultimate burrow invader niche since it can fit in em all
vast wolf
compy just casually jumps into minmi burrow and chills.
random imp
Kaprosuchus anyone
@worldly igloo kapro is basically as big as Armadillosuchus, lacking the armor... it'd be even more useless
ashen wasp
all these suchuses... Presto, Kapro, Armadillo, Deino, what's next?? Posto??
silver zephyr
nobody wants posto
ashen wasp
:(
worldly igloo
Damn
silver zephyr
?
covert birch
Posto bad
silver zephyr
^
random imp
we do not even know if this game will actually manage to take off once again, i'd say it's better not to speculate so much
covert birch
has all the issues kapro have
worldly igloo
@random imp yes I understand they are very similar creatures but Kapro wouldn’t be useless, Kapro would just be a less Tanky more damage based or maybe even bleed based creature
covert birch
it would be dead
worldly igloo
Damn
covert birch
Ya know how in legacy if sucho is spotted by a giga its fucked cuz giga can just trot it down
yea kapro would just have that happening to it
But its utah, or dilo, or other animals
worldly igloo
Damn again
random imp
no health, unable to outrun most of the bigger boys
unable to swim as good as a semiaquatic animal
it'd be lunch
worldly igloo
But then how did he survive in the late Cretaceous Africa with large predators both swimming and terrestrial if from what I’m hearing Kapro is an evolutionary failure
covert birch
real life doesnt nessecarily correlate to how an animal functions in a video game lol
look at anky
worldly igloo
Honestly Anky should be a lot better than he is in my opinion, like yeah recent studies have shown that he’s a lot smaller than he is believed to be but he is still a tank and I would think he would run like a hippo just speed walking very fast... terrifying
vast wolf
anky is being reworked and the new model is meant for it to be more mobile so your not stuck walking at a snails pace across the island if you want or need to go somewhere.
worldly igloo
I haven’t seen that picture in a long time and it’s so freaking beautiful to this day
worldly igloo
Ye
arctic nimbus
I like round Anky better
worldly igloo
Do you guys think that like how a Utah could run past a baby and just instant kill pick it up, do you think something like an allo could just run through a herd of dryo and pick one up and just run off with it and maybe not even an allo maybe like a Rex or a Giga because they’re bigger
arctic nimbus
I think they would have to kill it first
covert birch
if you insta kill it you instantly pick it up
worldly igloo
Yes exactly
arctic nimbus
So things you can one-shot yeah
covert birch
Dondi mentioned utah jumping into a middle of a circle of tenos killing a child insta picking it up and gtfo
icy lion
anything thats big enough to instant kill+carry will be able to do a run through
ashen wasp
unfortunately, i dont tend to see enough hatchlings to be able to carry them off into the distance with any sort of regularity. all too often, theyve just hit juvenile, and i have to watch as my Utah painstakingly drags a teeny tiny tot around like it's a ball and chain.
hopefully with smaller prey and larger predators the "yoink and skedaddle" strategy becomes more accessible
worldly igloo
Ye
valid elk
Anyone wanna discuss my idea
arctic nimbus
I agree with the first but the second I feel like baby venom should be weaker like it is with every other animal
proud coral
Venomous creatures like snakes usually have very potent venom when they're young since they can't control how much they inject, so it make sense 😮
arctic nimbus
I looked it up and it says adults are as dangerous if not more than young ones.
valid elk
Yeah, I work with snakes...nonvenomous ones, but the babies are more defensive bites than the adults.
rocky sable
what if the baby troodons start out with a very very potent venom (if they spawn in normally and not in a nest where parents can hunt for them) so they can take down smaller prey but as they get older the venom can go 2 ways , you dont hunt a lot and you scavenge so your venom is less potent and only for securing a already downed carcass , or your venom gets very potent to the point where things bitten need to find safety and heal or find the nearest thing that can heal them
when i mean very very potent i mean able to drop at most an avaceratops with 6 bites of venom
but it would take some time even if they bit the prey item a lot of time like 8-15 minutes depending on the creature and how many times it was bitten
valid elk
Oooh.
valid elk
I don't think anyone has a problem with my suggestion, this is a first...
cobalt compass
yea, that a good one
jade schooner
@floral loom there's no planned console port
inner orbit
@barren zephyr not trying to be rude but next time don’t use Prehistoric Wildlife but btw I quite like Iguanodon and think the suggestion is quite good
potent sparrow
I'm late to reply @cobalt compass, but thankyou
cobalt compass
👍
crystal trail
@clever bramble Thanks for the reminder
I'll fix that now
Emails however can't really change atm
clever bramble
yeah fair enough about the email
barren zephyr
@barren zephyr not trying to be rude but next time don’t use Prehistoric Wildlife but btw I quite like Iguanodon and think the suggestion is quite good
@inner orbit what is Prehistoric Wildlife?
I read it
ok i will use other things
covert birch
what is Prehistoric Wildlife?
@barren zephyr ya see that size chart you used, its from the site prehistoric wildlife which generally does some quite innacurate stuff
Their galli being the best example
There was recently a more accurate large iguanodon skeletal posted in #paleotalk tho iirc
inner orbit
Vice still a good suggestion though
barren zephyr
i saw one from scott hartman, better?
covert birch
inner orbit
Prehistoric Wildlife is a bit outdated
covert birch
lol
inner orbit
And sometimes uses innacurate size estimates
barren zephyr
Lmao
inner orbit
WTH
barren zephyr
How can someone get to that extreme situation?
inner orbit
Why is it so big
covert birch
they do this thing where they use
"large small and average sizes"
But half the time they dont say whihc of those sizes they are using
inner orbit
What estimates were they using?
covert birch
I have no idea
inner orbit
I hope people stop using their size estimates
covert birch
they have made size charts of so many things its difficult for people to not use em lol
eternal owl
Ehhh @barren zephyr ? Iguanodon is not a hadrosaur. It's an Iguanodontid, like Tenontosaurus.
peak wedge
Bro iguanodon is just a creepy para
honest sparrow
Better para*
covert birch
Better maia*
barren zephyr
Dumpy shant
shadow stream
barren zephyr
Ehhh @barren zephyr ? Iguanodon is not a hadrosaur. It's an Iguanodontid, like Tenontosaurus.
@eternal owl yes,sorry because of that
I had to write it in 5 minutes, i didnt realised, but thanks for correcting
But without counting all that technicisms, is it a good idea?
paper oriole
“Orodromeus will be the only nocturnal herbi in the isle” no thanks
barren zephyr
Huh?
paper oriole
There are many small pathetic herbivores who could benefit off of being nocturnal, not only oro
There is no reason besides bias that herbivores can't have nocturnals
paper oriole
Mmm better
barren zephyr
Nice
cobalt compass
so far it is known that venom will act as a tracer, but maybe some suggestions will be implemented
mental sleet
I didn't know venom would act as a tracer tbh.
covert birch
so far it is known that venom will act as a tracer, but maybe some suggestions will be implemented
this was for dilo
Megalania we literally know nothing about
Personally tho prefer stoats steam suggestion
https://steamcommunity.com/app/376210/discussions/14/1749021985764968037/
random imp
meh, i don't know how i feel about the Oro suggestion.
a kick attack like a chickhen 'd not be possible, roosters have wings that help them jump higher and stay in the air enough time to deliver the kick... oro just don't seems capable of jumping high enough to deal enough damage or look intimidating
and the beak attack is just useless
it can be used against a compy, but even an herrera won't feel anything
covert birch
"oro just don't seems capable of jumping high"
Neither does hypsi but guess what, fuckers gonna high jump
random imp
hypsi has been designed very differently compared to the Oro. hypsi 'd design make him look able to jump and climb
oro is just a dumb sausage
covert birch
Hypsis design is literally just oro but flamboyant
random imp
no, not really
covert birch
the animal has an extremely almost identical skeleton and body shape
Combined with the fact hypsi is barely bigger
also combined iwth the fact hypsi lacks em booster wings on its arms that you mentioned something like roosters got
cobalt compass
@mental sleet iirc it was said by dondi in one of this years early streams
"rather like a tracer than dmg dealing"
mental sleet
pog
paper oriole
Oro shouldnt be fighting back anyway, he should have better means of escape/evasion than he does currently
covert birch
Only thing oro should really be killin is compy
But like idk much one can give to oro to keep it unique that hasnt already been given to hypsi and/or homalo
paper oriole
It could be an arid survivor in mountains or other low resource areas or something idk
His name is mountain runner after all
covert birch
Not a fan of mountain animals on a map with little to no mountains
cobalt compass
what's "pog"?
covert birch
"Pog is a facial reaction to a cool thing where one does that open mouth shape based on a popular twitch emote"
paper oriole
Low resource areas in general, he would be able to gain nutrition on poor vegetation and survive longer without drinking, and have better grip when running and climbing slopes to escape predators
frigid cosmos
what is pog
ebon crypt
Who is pog?
frigid cosmos
how
covert birch
oro having just a complete immunity/extremely high resistances to fall damge can work i guess
since theres lots of these cliff type things across the map that arent nessecarily in mountain areas
But the thing already moves so slow that even if it drops there it can just be ran down after the pred walks round it
cobalt compass
or run them up
covert birch
just turns into a back n forth thing where oro goes up n down cliff n pred follows em lol
paper oriole
Yeah using steep slopes and drops in general to his advantage, there are many smaller slopes in game currently that are pretty much non traversable already
cobalt compass
preds dying of exhaustion
covert birch
could also just make oro go arboreal
Since well hypsi just has hops
paper oriole
Eh oro could have some climbing capability but he doesn't really strike as a great arboreal
covert birch
Could always just do that thing herra did in that old fan concept where it latches to the side of a tree
then can jump off n zoom away into the brush
paper oriole
He would probably resort to trees only to evade predators, not make a lifestyle out of it, yeah
A sort of all terrain animal, good with slopes, grasslands, deserts, mountains. Decent climber, ok swimmer
Able to gain nutrition on a vast variety of vegetation as an adaption to constantly moving to avoid predators
Also currently oros make little to no noise when running in legacy, probably a bug but i think it would be a nice addition for the master evader
covert birch
oro full stealth gameplay
paper oriole
Yes
covert birch
wouldnt be that hard tho with the amount of brush ingame
But yea it does have all the other fancy tools n such
cobalt compass
wap wap wap, you writing a book?
covert birch
yes
paper oriole
He's been wap wap wapping that keyboard a while
cobalt compass
dude, if thats not a bestseller i get a mod to arrest you
covert birch
i mean isnt dilos venom gonna cause coagulation?
most likely yes
tracking will prolly be another effect of it
silver zephyr
most likely yes
tracking will prolly be another effect of it
well i mean more blood inherently means more tracking so yeah
covert birch
by tracking i meant the whole pit viper smell the animal that has your venom in it style tracking
silver zephyr
🤔
fluid venture
eeeergh xD
ebon crypt
Consume the child.
frigid cosmos
turn the announcements channel into an announcements channel yes
barren zephyr
fantastic logic
mighty girder
@frigid cosmos @barren zephyr they mean the discord announcement thing.
It lets people forward the announcements to their own servers.
Try to actually know what someone means before you try to belittle them maybe
For anyone else unclear what it actually does, heres a ss of it from a diff server that has it turned on. https://i.gyazo.com/b9e9803713adfc789447834c9b8d1c46.png
(a smaller server obviously)
But it allows you to publish certain posts from a channel to multiple servers if theyre following the channel, and as it says it keeps everyone synced even if you edit it.
this announcement discord shit confuses me lol
barren zephyr
Thanks for the clarification. Forgot that that was a feature ngl. Don't you need a specific amount of members for that to be an option?
@mighty girder
mighty girder
I think there's a threshold you have to meet, but the server Im in where I got the ss from only has ~4k members. A server like this should easily have more. @barren zephyr I'd assume at least.
Ah you just have to make it a community server, which really doesnt change anything major. Just gives you access to fancy tools to see how your server is growing and lets you attract more members.
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360047132851-Enabling-Your-Community-Server
that goes over it for anyone curious.
so not even a member requirement.
barren zephyr
makes sense
vast wolf
@glad ocean legacy code is a dead end and there's no point on wasting resources on it.
frigid cosmos
Ooooh shit
glad ocean
They didn't think about completing all the Dinos WTF!? Gee I wonder who didn't let developers make all the Dinos complete and realistically fair hmmmmmm lmao
vast wolf
this sounds more like a hate peace and you whining about legacy being left to rot with its broken and buggy code.
glad ocean
"Hate peace whining" Lmao dude truth hurt hope if they're smart they'll take the advice
vast wolf
yeah thats legit just you ranting about legacy being unbalanced and wanting the devs to fix something that they dont have a workable code for. yes carnivores are biased but shant exists still with its 7k damage stomps lmao.
the devs also cant do locational damage in legacy but its already in evrima.
pallid trail
The older game was broken they couldn't fix it really
vast wolf
fix a codebase thats been unworkable for multiple years instead of rebuilding a game in 3 years.
barren zephyr
which would irrc take more time
pallid trail
I heard they couldn't fix it for some reason i'm not sure
vast wolf
if they try to make legacy code work the games development could take anther 4-5 years minimum.
barren zephyr
something about deathly not letting looter (the guy who was gonna recode) read his code and leaving for good
pallid trail
yeah
vast wolf
the original coder was lazy and then when they were fired took a chunk of code so the devs spent nearly a year fixing that.
barren zephyr
which yeah he's not oblicated to but still a dick move on his part
pallid trail
yeah
barren zephyr
gravato is typing somethin big and idk if it's gonna be good
pallid trail
so was why the trailer looks so good and not the actual game ever answered
I mean it looks good but..
vast wolf
hes been typing for the last 5 or so minutes.
pallid trail
Oh yeah lmao
icy lion
because the trailer used a lighting system that eventually crapped out and needed replacement
plus its a trailer
barren zephyr
^ that too
vast wolf
it was what they want the game to be along with some shaders that they got rid of due to them causing major issues.
icy lion
but evrima doesnt actually have a good lighting system right now, which is why it looks better than legacy but still not great
pallid trail
ah ok I wonder if they are ever going to find another one like it or just leave the game as it is which I would be fine with
barren zephyr
they're wanting to
icy lion
supposedly the shaders/lighting is part of the whole atmospherics/fog system
but idk much about that stuff
vast wolf
the water effects already look outstanding and infinitely better than legacy.
pallid trail
I hope they put teasers out for it soon when they find something
barren zephyr
either making a system by hand or another kit that could do it justice
covert birch
@glad ocean they cant update legacy anymore b/c its old "spaghetti code" from a previous now fired dev, thats about it
so they recoded the entire game and made evrima
barren zephyr
remade
icy lion
people told them that, it didnt work
pallid trail
I wonder why they released evrima in the first place if their shader broke..
icy lion
shader is minor and replaceable
pallid trail
yeah
glad ocean
Everything u said is irrelevant. I am Stego not shant the point everyone having a fair life as Dino and every Dino being fair game which is not the case Herbivores that were not completed was on purpose by a lead developer who wouldn't let Dinos to be completed that u should look more info about cuz that guy is a "dirty developer" claimed by youtuber who did his research on him and it's shocking. Herbivores could of got complete but wasn't allowed to, Carnivores should have the common sense who they hunt that's Dinos wtf shant doesn't mean anything. Me Stego
icy lion
its more cosmetic, if something like their animation system broke THAT would stop the game
what
barren zephyr
oh boy
icy lion
oh no hes here from sid
covert birch
What
vast wolf
broken English strikes again.
pallid trail
Its just a lot of people were disappointed in the game not looking like the trailer they couldve avoided all that hate if they told us idk im fine with it though
icy lion
what does "shant doesnt mean anything me stego" even mean
barren zephyr
yep of course it's a sid boy. Look sid didn't do all his evidence or fact checking
outer condor
What moment
glad ocean
Oh s*** he got fired!?! YEAHHHH
icy lion
what
glad ocean
LITTTT
covert birch
yes deathly was fired ages ago
pallid trail
lol
covert birch
for his shit programming
vast wolf
deathly has been off the team since 2017.
icy lion
are they even talking about deathly
barren zephyr
and other drama between him and someone else
outer condor
Dondi didn't get fired
pallid trail
did they think dondi was fired lmao
glad ocean
Oh s*** dondi didnt get fired...wtf dangggg
covert birch
Cuz dondi is the lead dev lol
icy lion
bruh lol
pallid trail
yeah wat lmao
covert birch
how would you fire him
icy lion
yup gonna just fire myself
pallid trail
lmaoo
vast wolf
don would likely have to step down as a dev.
barren zephyr
my guy before going on a typing tirade listen to us for a quick sec? eh?
covert birch
Doubt
vast wolf
which i dont see happening.
pallid trail
ye
icy lion
also gravato did you watch all of sids videos or just the first one with a lot of false info
pallid trail
He still has plans for the game
untold yew
Dondi: "Boss I'm quitting"
Also Dondi:
barren zephyr
2nd*
icy lion
i thought the third was a react vid to his own comments
glad ocean
You guys got to watch a vid ill try and find it but this youtuber did his research on dondi and talked to employees that worked for him my goodness this guy is ridiculous
covert birch
thats the 4th
icy lion
theres 4 my lord
barren zephyr
@glad ocean no listen we've all seen it
pallid trail
I wonder if after evrima (which will be in a LONG time ik) if they will make another simulator
untold yew
I'm just gonna watch for a while and see wtf happens
barren zephyr
listen for a quick second
vast wolf
yeah its kinda eh nothing we can do about it.
icy lion
taco i dont think theyre listening, theyre typing
pallid trail
lol
vast wolf
games should be separate from their devs.
covert birch
Gravato there are multiple people who also worked for him who are blatantly lying or just misinformed
For example there was a mod/qa member both volunteer positions who thought they shouldve gotten payed lol
glad ocean
Good thing the sandbox Dinos aren't completed while everyone plays V3 until Evrma comes out in 5 year wtf sooo dumb
icy lion
...
outer condor
What
pallid trail
I dont think it will take that long if they work hard
vast wolf
evrima is already out numbnut.
barren zephyr
alright. should we move this to discussion?
untold yew
games should be separate from their devs.
@vast wolf
I should remember that for the clusterfuck of a sim game that's gonna be dropping
Gonna have the same mod team even though they suck on only one sim game already :)
icy lion
is this a discussion?
glad ocean
Actually playable in 5 years
covert birch
i mean
icy lion
same mod team lulw
barren zephyr
is it feedback or talking about feedback?
covert birch
the game is playable rn lol
im actively playing and enjoying it
pallid trail
No it will be playable after probably 5 or a little more updates
vast wolf
they seem to be doing a hate peace thing.
barren zephyr
^
pallid trail
probably next year
untold yew
It's playable? Yes actually
Is it super enjoyable right now? Not really
vast wolf
this sounds more like a hate peace and you whining about legacy being left to rot with its broken and buggy code.
pallid trail
Legacy is playable and still fun I think
icy lion
"left to rot" its been rotten
covert birch
But yea gravato, they no longer can work with legacy due to some coding issues which occured in the past
Evrima is a base they can actually build off, unlike legacy
and evrima is getting about monthly updates so i expect it to catch up to legacy (dino numbers wise) in about a years time
glad ocean
Did guys see how close all sandbox Dinos were from being completed and they just ditched those Dinos wtf why wouldn't they complete them....oh yeah Dondi wouldn't let them be completed cuz he likes humping T rexes and Utahs
covert birch
False
they can no longer work on those animals
Cuz again, programming issues of legacy
pallid trail
Dude have you played the tenonto yet they are stronger then utahs..
vast wolf
making new mechanics in legacy was always a pain and was even worse post 2017.
pallid trail
there are just to many utah players
icy lion
i dont think the sandbox dinos were close to completion like, at all
covert birch
they lacked mechanics and growth
Some had more like sniffing and nesting missing
pallid trail
lol the anky is cute tho
glad ocean
Yeah OK go play as a Stego and Anky and tell me why couldnt complete smell growth size and damage.....wtf matter with u
icy lion
im gonna miss it
vast wolf
it was aparently a pain to get the first full body animation in back in late 2016.
crystal trail
@glad ocean Would you be willing to enlighten us to the full list of tasks necessary to make a dinosaur entirely feature complete?
icy lion
do ankys knees bend in legacy?
vast wolf
pallid trail
ello
icy lion
also hi punch
crystal trail
Yo
covert birch
greetings
vast wolf
welcome to angry child simulator.
crystal trail
Don't insult him.
glad ocean
Go in Feedback I wrote it all down
vast wolf
eh fair.
crystal trail
I read your comment in feedback, it doesn't address my question.
pallid trail
Grav why do you feel the need to insult the team they are trying their best
glad ocean
Dont insult go watch the youtuber video on the research about dondi then come back and talk shit
Dont insult me**
covert birch
Grav, most people have already seen the video
and frankly either dont care or have no power whatsoever in the situation
glad ocean
Its pretty much dondi not the team
vast wolf
we have all seen the sidalpha video on don. good points not much credible evidence except from 2013-2014.
covert birch
I beg to differ since iirc it was dondis idea to yaknow
Do evrima which will actually be able to be built upon
crystal trail
Well if you'd like to have a discussion pertaining to your post I'd be more than happy to, thusfar however you seem to be regurgitating the same set of comments over and over.
vast wolf
also yeah cant do anything to a lead dev with no evidence.
glad ocean
U guys gotta get that guy outta there asap cause I want Herbivores to be fair and he doesnt want that at all
covert birch
Gravato
icy lion
looks at kissen
covert birch
in evrima tenonto is more powerful then utahs
barren zephyr
listen my dude
covert birch
Tenonto is a herbivore
pallid trail
They are fair the tenonto is amazing in combat
vast wolf
tenonto can easily destroy 3-4 utahs if one is skilled.
glad ocean
Well duh that just a Utah and Tenonto doesnt mean shit
vast wolf
legacy never was balanced.
glad ocean
Until all the Dinos are released
vast wolf
Well duh that just a Utah and Tenonto doesnt mean shit
tbf same can be argued with shant and rex.
pallid trail
thats why they are making evrima to fix their mistakes in the past and give us something new
barren zephyr
legacy is broken. the chinese are taking it over and devouring it until it's broken (even further or deleted). It was left because if you wanted your herb mechanics to be effective. and not rely on stats to make a herb superior. evrima has that covered already.