Yea, the old version, why not just use that until things are decent enough for you to go to EVIRMA
#general-feedback-discussion
daring bramble
teal lava
Idk, those that want their apexes can always go back to the legacy builds, they're still active
barren zephyr
the only thing im a little bummed about was collision but like honestly whatever
teal lava
Still a WIP so I'm giving it a pass
jaunty juniper
I hate this game!
teal lava
tbh that's my whole outlook on this game, it's a beta a BRAND spankin NEW release, it gets a free pass from me until it gets more updates
daring bramble
I actually forgot collision was postponed a bit I was confused as heck watching Utahs run through Allen's tail lol
teal lava
😂
oblique mauve
Gonna wait to play this for a few months. Sad uwu.
barren zephyr
also i kept seeing people say that they would rather the devs have worked on the current legacy vs do the recode but
teal lava
By the time you play it, this chaos should be relatively passed
barren zephyr
the reason evrima came to be was because they quite literally could'nt
teal lava
the legacy is scrapped idfk what they're hoping for XD
daring bramble
I wonder how the CCs are doing lol I wonder if they can't get in either to make a video lol
barren zephyr
like the legacies spaghetti code is
teal lava
They already got their buffer, I was pissed about that but now I know why
Cause of all THIS
daring bramble
Tbh if the devs postponed and delayed again, people would be pissed about that too so there's no win in that situation
either get what we have now or the game is delayed and have to wait again where people are gonna whine either way
teal lava
They'd sit there and stew, then come right back when it opened up again, I say they do it
They all scream and whine about the game and it's "horrible quality" but continue to play it and will continue to come back every time they release new updates
strange mesa
Everyone getting pissy because things arent working is pretty terrible. I'm not sure what you people expect from betas, but there are going to be glitches and things you dont like.
daring bramble
Mmhm
teal lava
the fact that this new game is updatable and functioning is a HUGE milestone
strange mesa
As far as betas go this is solid as fuck. the plantlife is definitely an improvement
teal lava
Ikr? I haven't even entered the game yet but the side by side comparisons are day and night
abstract elk
it looks amazing
indigo sun
"WE WANT THE UPDATE!!!"
'Okay, well we can't get things completely done in such a short amount of time. This is going to be just a beta and wont work perfectly.'
"Fine."
'Here's your beta'
"WHAT THE FUCK UNPLAYABLE WHY DIDNT YOU WAIT YOU DUMBASSES???!!! REFUND!!"
abstract elk
for the five minutes it let me play XD
daring bramble
Tbh I think most of the people who are questioning the 2 dinos and mad about that other stuff that was already said are most of the lurkers (thought I know some probably popped in to look every now and then) or people out of the discord
teal lava
Mhm, the people that weren't paying attention to the phase two channel that I clung to like a starving tick all spring
daring bramble
I'm satisfied enough from what I saw from Beaver's video lol it looks nice
vivid pawn
Really? They’re just gonna mute the main chat for hating criticism?
strange mesa
It does look amazing. I'm so excited for the updates coming. I really meant what I said, anyone complaining has never touched a real beta in their life. Especially one that just came out.
vivid pawn
I’m just going to not play the game for 2 months
Maybe then they’ll finally have it at a somewhat playable state
strange mesa
"Criticism" Having 1k people spamming you with hate isn't criticism. People are impatient.
They release a beta and all of you are acting hella ungrateful.
vivid pawn
We’ve been waiting years for this in reality
teal lava
I'm refusing to look at any content only because I want the fullest and most genuine first time experience for myself when I do, but I am most certainly so excited to start physically crying over how damn gorgeous everything will look. The lighting alone will bring me to tears
daring bramble
I never touched a beta before until WQ when they did their new anniversary edition and I can confirm early releases and betas aren't gonna be astounding especially with small teams
vivid pawn
We’ve been lead on for about a year saying “it’s coming soon guys”
slim wing
I am probably not going to play this beta version for 2-3 months. Shouldn't of released it. Thankfully we can all go back to our legacy versions until then.
strange mesa
Okay? There's going to be bugs. They had to rebuild this game from the ground up.
Do you have any idea how long it takes to code these games?
primal spear
People are not listening to reason and ways to fix the game. Also it's beta, so it's not. Perfect
vivid pawn
Then they shouldn’t advertise it as a functioning game anymore
teal lava
You do that Peach
indigo sun
Shit happens. They knew there would be issues and thats why legacy is still around.
haughty jasper
I don't feel customers should have to jump through hoops, like download an app or go into game files to have to be able to play. Making a playable game lies on the shoulders of developers (for any game) and should not fall to customers to be able to get said game to launch. I've had it happen on multiple games where the developer wants you to go in depe into files and make adjustments just so you can launch their game. That's not a hit on this game, it was another popular game+devs that said that to me. But you get the gist.
teal lava
It's a beta, calm yer tits
strange mesa
The game page literally says "early access". End of discussion.
teal lava
^^
primal spear
@vivid pawn but it is functional. I got to play
vivid pawn
Yeah I’m agreeing with peach, I’m not touching the game except maybe legacy for a couple months
teal lava
It's functional, and currently breaking because nearly 12k people are trying to play at the same time ya dumbasses
vivid pawn
@primal spear people are waiting over a half hour just to load on a small server
And you shouldn’t be surprised that 12k people are trying to play
primal spear
@vivid pawn that because over 12k are overloading the severs
teal lava
have you ever seen a new game run smoothly under pressure from 12,000 people trying to play at once?
strange mesa
I load in less than a minute, just gotta restart my game if i don't load in.
daring bramble
But I do get what Chou's saying, it can be annoying have to do manual stuff just to get the game running sometimes since not everyone knows what they're doing and all
vivid pawn
They’ve been hyping this up for a LONG time leading people on saying it’ll be so great and it’s gonna be good and it’s coming soon
teal lava
Yall are free to wait but keep your whining to yourself
vivid pawn
7 months later and it still wasn’t happening
haughty jasper
I mean yes there are a lot of people trying to load but what else could the devs expect? This is something that should have been planned out beforehand. Better to have too many servers than not enough
vivid pawn
Exactly chou
primal spear
Same reason you see websites and shopping sites goes down for a release
teal lava
I see a ton of progress, you're just blinded by the fact that you were expecting a perfect game and got a WIP beta
strange mesa
You really think they're able to predict the amount of people joining? and even if they did, they cant predict their scripts and servers will hold them.
vivid pawn
I know how hard it is to code a game, I’ve done it before
teal lava
You can always handle things better, and your words and phrases would lead me to believe otherwise
haughty jasper
Websites and shopping sites see a lot more traffic than games do.
strange mesa
Obviously not, if you don't have the patience to wait a single day.
teal lava
Then stop complaining about the current state of the game and understand as a "game coder" that it takes time and they've been very honest about the state of the game
vivid pawn
Coding really sucks and it isn’t easy, but this whole situation could’ve been handled better a long time ago
primal spear
@haughty jasper it was an comparison - _-
haughty jasper
This isn't bothering me personally, I'll just play another day, no big deal to me.
Can't compare apples to oranges though
vivid pawn
Could’ve had small testing groups outside of the main team months in advance, seeing how things would be, perhaps limiting the amount of people who have access to it for initial release
daring bramble
But it always goes down to the game was told to be barebones and we were warned about a lot of stuff beforehand, but the devs should have expected a shit ton of people to go flocking to download the game and trying to get in it so I understand both sides completely but at the end of the day, people need to be patient instead of shitting on the devs for something that they didn't exactly do purposely
haughty jasper
Having only a couple servers up .. what were they expecting lol.
vivid pawn
I agree with chou, I’m not playing the new version for a few months
But that doesn’t mean I can’t criticize how poorly this was handled
strange mesa
I'm not bothered at all. I'm impressed with what they accomplished so far and some people can't see past that.
primal spear
Website goes down because too many people... Game goes down because Too many people
teal lava
I see that you can't realize that they've learned from their mistakes and improved how they run their dev process, and they had plenty of testers, but if you really want to talk about what they could have done better go to #general-feedback and post a message there
vivid pawn
Dondi has failed me many times in the 5 years I’ve been playing this game and following his team
I’ve gotten used to being let down
teal lava
We'll stay here and do things other than complain about how they create THEIR game
vivid pawn
Doesn’t mean I won’t critique his failures, and that’s all I really got to say
daring bramble
But then again, I haven't been here as long as half the people in this discord so I don't think I can say much from experience and just from what I see 
teal lava
I doubt that since you're still complaining about it
strange mesa
If you really feel that way, then find another game. They work hard to make these things and you people shit on it within an hour.
Boo hoo, there's bugs.
vivid pawn
They make it better, I won’t complain
teal lava
If you were used to being let down you'd keep your disappointments to one post and not continually try to bring it down
daring bramble
But wait a few months and I'm sure things will be sorted
teal lava
they will, until then stop complaining
haughty jasper
The game is what it is, I'm not criticising that. I'm only stating they should have known this many people would be clamoring to play. A couple servers to spread out for 12k people? Come on now lol. Basic logic would tell you flood the game with servers and delete unnecessary ones
primal spear
Plus it's beta and thousands are crowding around. People are not listening to. Reason and yelling for. Refund
tardy hinge
damn are we protesting virtually now?
teal lava
They did know, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a game like that run smoothly the first time without ever having gone through that before. That's like expecting them to psychically code their game to handle an influx of code that they've never had to deal with before.
haughty jasper
Ew, no.
daring bramble
protesting?
strange mesa
I'm not even worrying about the flaws. I played for a good thirty minutes and just focused on the positive changes.
indigo sun
I might wait a few days for things to cool down. Theres a lot happening because theres so many people and theres bound to be bugs they fully plan on fixing
primal spear
Wasn't it said they are. Working on creating more servers? Maybe they figure over 5 to 9k would be the traffic
teal lava
Go join the complainers in #401464048610312195 we aren't interested
primal spear
You can never estimate the amount of traffic there will. Be until it happens there is no one who can tell the future
teal lava
^^
strange mesa
Are some of you idiots really spamming Feedback?
teal lava
Yup they are
and it's gunna get this channel put on slow mode, furthering my already sour mood
daring bramble
I'm just here cause talking in the isle discussion and offtopic is difficult rn 
primal spear
I think it's beautiful for. The time. I got to play
teal lava
Same Vixen
strange mesa
People think complaining will change anything. If they want a change, file a formal bug report and let them fix it. That's all i can say.
Im gonna keep enjoying this.
daring bramble
^
primal spear
Didn't get to find any bugs since the traffic so I don't want to report anything incase it was traffic related
teal lava
I prefer to praise what they've done instead of nitpick all the little things that they'll eventually fix. The best part is that these people will still be nitpicking even after the full release is out, because you can't please everyone and some just like to whine and garner attention from people like us who are too talkative to ignore them
daring bramble
That's all we can really do actually, let the devs know, respectfully, and let them deal with it when they can
ivory salmon
So just to remind people they did know what they were getting into because this is why the Recode was even a thing FYI 2 years.
strange mesa
The only huge bug I found was settings not working.
primal spear
They still couldn't tell how. Much traffic there would be
teal lava
I'd say log bugs you find, but also make sure you can replicate them in a non laggy environment cause idk how much of the game breaking is coding issues vs. overload
primal spear
Just like when JS and Shane launch the product, multiple websites went down despite being prep for. Traffic
daring bramble
This community is slightly predictable so I knew something like this would happen and I think the devs had some idea but I can't say to what extent but the 3 servers with only 50 people for each was a bad idea with how many people have this game and were so hyped over it...
strange mesa
I didn't test out grazing, though I like that there's no eat gui anymore.
teal lava
Mhm, I haven't even touched Nycta cause I'm 100% sure it's worse
daring bramble
I saw Teno graze and it's so cute 
strange mesa
I like the whole "find your own food and water" aesthetic
teal lava
Oh shit I forgot grazing was a thing, I'm literally going to forget that half of these mechanics exist 😂 I need to reprogram my own muscle memory
mhm
daring bramble
@terse portal Night and Day cycle will be added later
ivory salmon
They know there Traffic all they have to do is look there sales theres your traffic
primal spear
Baby sounds are adorable I love how they did the sounds for being tired and age
teal lava
it adds immersion and allows you to be more resourceful and animalistic
teal lava
awwww, shoot I forgot about that too
The fog horn babus
TENONTO IN THE 90s!!!!! That video made me cry and still does
daring bramble
I know the calls are messed up rn but the baby utah call is adorable whatever it was 
strange mesa
See this is the discussion we need to be having The positive things, file the negative ones in bugs and forget about them
teal lava
It's pinned in #608693014054830103 the most gorgeous thing I've ever witnessed
Yeeee
I like this discussion, it's a good one
terse portal
@daring bramble no i know but like my world is very dim right now as if it were night or getting there
i only assume its a bug but im not sure how to fix this
daring bramble
I enjoy calm discords
strange mesa
I'm only sad that I accidentally killed a utah testing my tail whip T-T
teal lava
this is as calm as we'll get
primal spear
I don't like the throw up though I think it. Looks awkward
teal lava
awwwww
daring bramble
Ooooh, then you might wanna ask in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 Silent
Or mess with your settings
teal lava
Rose that probably goes in #general-feedback
strange mesa
it's like, perma dusk
daring bramble
I'm not sure if that's supposed to happen or not cause I'm pretty sure it's always day in the EVIRMA lol
primal spear
Feedback is still get somewhat spam lol
daring bramble
Unless you mean legacy-
strange mesa
I can't wait to customize my teno. With the new flora and static objects like rocks, camouflage just hit a new level
daring bramble
That poor Utah, Osiris xD
mighty girder
@glad ocean did you check #pinned-troubleshooting like the mods suggest?
teal lava
Wait they don't have a day/night cycle implemented yet? Interesting 🤔 now that I recall someone was asking Dondi if he was still working on the night sky so that makes sense
daring bramble
It was probably living life until it randomly died
strange mesa
Right? I didn't even know he was behind me I was too busy examining my new child
teal lava
At least it was quick and relatively painless, like getting hit by a truck....from the sky
daring bramble
Yea, Para or Dondi said day/night cycle would be added later in EVIRMA
strange mesa
Yeah day/night isn't implemented yet, which is good. I'd be terrified going through the new forest at night for the first time
teal lava
Nice, I'm so excited for night sky, shooting stars, EEEGGGG
No kidding
I'd piss myself
daring bramble
But also makes since cause no night dinos are out rn I think?
celest pumice
not yet
daring bramble
I don't think utah needs it rn
teal lava
Nope, unless you count the utah which...I don't really, it's sorta a dusk dino
strange mesa
I'm just glad dilo has been dethroned with the adding of alt turn.
celest pumice
I think once dilo gets back in night will be back in too
teal lava
or a late day, like a lion or a cheetah
haughty hawk
Idk if i can write it her but my sis cant even open the game and i cant even get onto any server XD
teal lava
chatrobot #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
daring bramble
I'm just excited to get my anky and trike bbs
teal lava
Y'know what literally everyone has forgotten about, is the fact that Dondi mentioned potential plans for megalania
like in the DISTANT DISTANT future
strange mesa
You know what I want
glad ocean
Anyone else who updates to game then restarts steam then hits play game then it doesn't even start up kill me
strange mesa
Now that we have actual trees, bring out the troodons
teal lava
YES
strange mesa
I wanna climb to new heights
teal lava
MY BOIS
I can't wait for troodon, that's the dinosaur I've been most hyped to play, though I do hope in the future that one of the customizable options is to give them those glowing milky white jurassic park eyes
strange mesa
I hope they implement the utahs grabbing mechanic back, or rather the latching mechanic
teal lava
Just to have a swarm in the dead of night start whooping and you see dozens of little white dots in the bushes around you
daring bramble
jfc I think my dog needs night vision cause he for the life of him couldn't find the entrance way to his crate and just stared at the side of it 
teal lava
XD mood tbh
strange mesa
Me as well, I don't think there's anything as empowering as watching the forest bustling around you as you chill in a tree
teal lava
Wait Osiris, do you mean the pounce? Or something else?
daring bramble
I heard someone in Allen's stream mentioning frogs, are we really getting frog ais??
glad ocean
Wow this updates better than I thought I get to download the update then restart steam then hit play then it wont let me play, just what I wanted about time they added this to the game yes!!!!
teal lava
Idk we might for the babies
strange mesa
Yeah the pounce mechanic, where they could latch onto the side of dinosaurs
sudden notch
so what is happening? I did the copy paste fix. I can get into the game now, but cannot connect to servers. I've only played for 3 days now. sorry for my noobness
teal lava
Yeee they're working on that, idk if it's in this build entirely but it's definitely a thing they've been cleaning up
strange mesa
Grant, when you click a server does it kick you out? @glad ocean
daring bramble
The pouncing mechanic looked cool when Allen used it on another utah
teal lava
xtonks #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
They'll help you there
The pounce on utahs is so cool, I also saw the vid of two utahs pouncing at each other and colliding in mid air
ricochet
daring bramble
oh yea the testing clip?
teal lava
yee
daring bramble
yea that was pretty neat, I'm glad they thought about that
teal lava
I've been following the phase two channel with obsessive loyalty, there's so much stuff in there it makes me squeal
strange mesa
If the world were a utopia we'd have the utahs pounce tear off chunks of meat, so while it would cause bleeding to the larger dino, the utahs would get a small meal
teal lava
like the WIP juvi trike anim for getting pounced
That would be brutal and I would love it
daring bramble
omg if only
worn pulsar
I wish we had AI.
teal lava
dinosaurs just missing parts of limbs from being snacked on
worn pulsar
The fact you can starve to death trying to find a Tenoto player
strange mesa
I'm more worried about the players getting fixed than adding AI
teal lava
WIP and no it wouldn't XD the game would still be lagging, I don't think starvation is the biggest issue for them
there are
worn pulsar
I was a tiny hatchling on some server
I think it's just servers can'th andle
Right after an update
Give it a bit.
daring bramble
utahs are gonna have to resort to cannibalism to survive atm, you're fine
worn pulsar
why does cannibalism make me feel sad
strange mesa
Imagine you're a 100 day old brachi, missing a leg from a rex attack. Would be brutal.
teal lava
DinoNet still needs some major love and I'm perfectly content with experiencing the game in its current state atm
worn pulsar
unless im a rex
teal lava
Cannibalism excites me XD
daring bramble
you can find other utahs with ease if you can't find any tenons
teal lava
desperate times call for desperate measures and rn NO ONE is safe
EVERY DINO FOR HIMSELF
strange mesa
Sudden urge to share the "i whip my hair back and forth" meme.
teal lava
YES
worn pulsar
When the mesopredators arrive and the utahs and tenotos are now actually being fucking terrorised
Mesos I mean by
teal lava
I whip my tail back and forth I whip my tail back and forth I whip my tail back and forth
worn pulsar
Allo and Sucho
strange mesa
lmao
worn pulsar
Cerato is out of the picture
daring bramble
I can't tag peach oof
worn pulsar
If they get the mesopredators and middle sized animals first
strange mesa
I want to be an old wrinkly brachi missing a leg telling stories of my time back in nam
teal lava
one herbi and one carni that are compatible
teal lava
That would at least try to help balance the ecosystem
daring bramble
Paired updates always remind me of Pokemon cause they always release two games together lol
teal lava
yeee
teal lava
exactly
strange mesa
I feel like apexes should only be added once everything else is polished and done
worn pulsar
Yeah
daring bramble
Plus paired updates would help us know which dinos are evenly matched with each other
teal lava
I feel like allos without a proper herbivore for them to hunt, would obliterate everything in the server due to their size XD
worn pulsar
So it's actually like a Jurassic fight
teal lava
they already said they're focusing on the deino after this
worn pulsar
fuck
strange mesa
I know im excited for all the new "dino stats" videos in the future
teal lava
Dondi mentioned in the stream that they need to add fish ai so they don't starve
worn pulsar
They should focus on Mesopredators
teal lava
naw cause they're restricted to water
they want to get one of each major mechanic dino out first
strange mesa
Deino is going to be such an aesthetic though. Getting to chill in a river all day is l i f e
worn pulsar
I feel like Allos should be encouraged to pack up
teal lava
the herbi, the carni, the swimmer, and the flier
teal lava
Allos pack up anyway
teal lava
I can't wait for deino aesthetics XD
daring bramble
I don't think deino would mess with balance since they're ambush and hang in the water mostly so it's the herbi/carni duo then the water ambusher joins the brawl
worn pulsar
Okay so
strange mesa
I'm truly excited for the water dinosaurs and the tree climbers.
worn pulsar
Who agrees here
strange mesa
I like to just chill places
teal lava
they'd be restricted to large water bodies, their primary food source is fish
worn pulsar
Stego thagomizer hits on Allosaurs
Shoudl be nerfed
I got one shotted
By a thag
As an allo
full grown
vs full grown stegf
Allos are glass cannons
teal lava
I'd say that belongs in #401470471750811669
daring bramble
They'd only attack other dinos if they get too close like actual gators and crocs
worn pulsar
i love realism
allo standing his ground against moving in dilos
or smthn
i did that once
i was a blue crested allo and
I stood my ground against 3/4 dilos
daring bramble
You won't see too much realism in this game, elite so don't get your hopes too high for a realistic game here
daring bramble
ah okay lol
worn pulsar
Like roaring before a fight or smthn
teal stirrup
man if people think this is bad they'd never have survived Star Citizen's major update releases 🤣
teal lava
My main thought is how they're going to restrict deino player numbers, if they are. I feel like there would be a slight upsurge, like there will be with every new dino, but that would solve itself pretty quick when deinos start eating each other XD
strange mesa
I remember being a giga versus a full pack of rulebreaking dilos. Worst nightmare on the planet. But with evrima adding alt turn..nightmare is over
teal lava
So tbh I just answered my own question, the ecosystem will sort out overpopulation on its own
daring bramble
how many gators/crocs are usually grouped together in africa? or is that number not known
worn pulsar
Just watch the allo turn and obliterate a whole fucking dilo pakc when they come out
strange mesa
Every assrider is off in the corner crying about how they ruined the game.
teal lava
A LOT
daring bramble
oof
daring bramble
hmm
teal lava
irl gators do it all the time
daring bramble
probably 10 or 5 at most?
strange mesa
the fact that teno can play in the mud and it also makes them untrackable
its too cute.
teal lava
naw trust me more than that
worn pulsar
tenos are cute
teal lava
like 50
teal stirrup
Utah: When you're adorable and at the top of the food chain
daring bramble
baby teno and utah
worn pulsar
Okay so
When I see allo in the game first second
I will legit rush
At every single fucking dilo when that comes in
And slaughter them
strange mesa
I think grazing is definitely gonna add a lot. Big herbis steal your food? That's fine, nom the fields
teal lava
But yeah I've seen gator groups upwards of 50-60 irl
worn pulsar
No mercy to the dilos
daring bramble
But I think they'll have the deino groups only be about 5 maybe? or even at the most 10 if they wanna risk it lol
teal lava
Grazing will be an ass saver
worn pulsar
hunt down all dilos when added
Grazing is an accurate idea,
Dinosaurs would eat grass if it existed in
teal lava
I'll play a dilo and bite ur ass just to spite u XD
daring bramble
I think 5 deinos would be enough actually
teal stirrup
Yeh gators are super lazy IRL they don't fight eachother like crazy
teal lava
Not if you don't see me coming and I disappear, I'm not an ass rider I hit and run
worn pulsar
b e a c h .
teal stirrup
Laziness is directly proportional to a predator's evolutionary viability. Everything lazy lives longer than everything that's not.
daring bramble
imagine 5 deinos just chilling in the water hidden out of sight and they just pop out and scare the shit out of you lol
worn pulsar
Laziness helps keep energy.
teal lava
U can hide on the beach and starve then, I'll wait in the trees 😏
strange mesa
I'm gonna be grazing and have some dilo walk up and tear my ass off and walk off T-T
worn pulsar
That's why crocodilians
Are perfect predators
They keep their energy
And alligators
of course
And they lunge and use it at full
When reaedy
teal lava
I feel like there will be contingencies especially since dilos are probably getting some sort of venom, if not then a heightened tracking ability I can't remember which, it was discussed a few months ago
worn pulsar
who watched tierzoo
teal lava
And could most certainly change
worn pulsar
watches*
teal lava
nope
strange mesa
the whole "dilos seeing a thousand miles away at night" thing was crazy
teal lava
I'm off media until I can play it for myself
daring bramble
oh yea dilo are getting venom
worn pulsar
oh wait.
teal lava
the best part is that almost all the dinos in legacy have the exact same night vision circle, but their size just makes it seem worse
daring bramble
oof that's gonna be hella annoying-
strange mesa
I get being night predators, but the night vision should only be somewhat better, not miles better than anything
worn pulsar
I imagine troodons
teal lava
Yeee so I will bite ur ass and run HOE
worn pulsar
Being godly at night
daring bramble
Imagine a dilo hitting you with venom and just sprints off
worn pulsar
Troodons will suffer in day
teal lava
My venomous brothers will rule the prehistoric era
worn pulsar
But do amazing in night
daring bramble
damn dilos and their hit and runs
teal lava
Yeah cause bleed will no longer do damage
strange mesa
I wanna be a troodon army and just pounce onto the back of some unsuspecting dilo
worn pulsar
Who remembers playing as an allo
teal lava
it'll only take your stamina
worn pulsar
And whenever you fall like
1vcm
crack
sit down for 5 minutes
contemplating why you did that
teal stirrup
I want to play that cannibal thing and pounce a carno like in the concept art 
daring bramble
lowkey I wanna play a trike just so a utah can pounce of me lol
strange mesa
dont forget the "running along a flat surface and somehow found the only rock and got launched" move
worn pulsar
I imagine Hypo Carno
teal lava
XD
strange mesa
if i see a hypo im jumping off a cliff
teal lava
Imagine being a utah on the edge of a cliff, charging a trike, and getting thrown off the edge like a dumbass
teal lava
Mood
worn pulsar
Weren't hypos made to kill?
teal stirrup
neurotenic utahraptor be like "where we're going we don't need eyes to see"
daring bramble
Charges that pounce just to get yeeted over a cliff
teal lava
Neuros in general be like that tho
teal lava
They were all made to kill, hypos were made to do it violently
worn pulsar
I guess make the weather worse to help hypos kill?
teal stirrup
EMPs when mercs get vehicles
teal lava
Listen
worn pulsar
Isn't AE kinda evil
teal stirrup
oh no doubt AE definitely has this Umbrella Corp/InGen thing going on
worn pulsar
or apollo
daring bramble
speaking of mercs, I'm kind of curious to how they're gonna play
worn pulsar
I'm guessing they went a fallen kingdom vibe
teal lava
Hypo - Strenth
Neuro - Psychic
Tisso - Stealth/Assassination, if that makes any sense
worn pulsar
Where they tried to do them for military purpose
teal lava
That's the jist of the strains
daring bramble
course I'm never gonna play one, but I'd like to see someone else play one
worn pulsar
Hypo is my favourite with the lighter classes
@daring bramble you will one day, but definitely not soon.
just need to do a lot of effort.
teal lava
Neuros were meant to have the ability to mimic calls, affect aspects of the environment such as weather, and lure in other dinosaurs with mimicked calls
worn pulsar
Neuros are freaky
teal lava
Basically sleep paralysis demon
teal stirrup
there's a video from like a couple years ago with merc gameplay but I dunno about how long it'll be before they are playable
teal lava
yeah pretty much
worn pulsar
But it changes weather
daring bramble
Really?
teal lava
A while on the mercs probably
daring bramble
What video was that?
teal stirrup
@daring bramble https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3YdgFIgwI
daring bramble
It may not be recent but I just wanna see
teal lava
I'm hoping that since cannibals get the ability to force player dinos into slavery with bonehooks and whips, that mercs can steal dino eggs and raise their own loyal companions by hand
teal stirrup
it's super early prototype stuff though, kinda janky
teal lava
Not cannibals
wide jolt
incredible that it's so calm in here
worn pulsar
@teal lava I hope Mercenaries are able to go full on special forces mode
And shoot em down
LOL
If you can play as like
teal lava
Their bases will have big guns that can deter rexes and such, but you go out alone and your on your own
worn pulsar
Some AE military detachment
I'd like them
To deploy
At times
With some players as them
And they attempt to eliminate
daring bramble
Did Dondi or Para say that humans weren't gonna be able to raise dinosaurs? or was that just tribals who wouldn't
teal lava
So the safe zones are safe and you heading out is your own funeral
teal stirrup
deploy with a jeep to take down a certain kind of dino for combat data, like Umbrella Security
worn pulsar
I kinda think
daring bramble
Ahhh okay yea, that's what I thought
worn pulsar
Who here thinks
teal lava
yee
worn pulsar
There should be an AE military detachment
Deployed at times
Heavily armed
Ready to kill
teal lava
there was a thing a LONG time ago on the topic but it's almost certainly changed
teal stirrup
isn't that what mercs are anyway? private security for corporation
worn pulsar
oh shit ye
forgot
I was just thinking AE would have a military detachment themselves
cough DINOSAURS
teal lava
Yeah mercs are pretty much AE's military
worn pulsar
I imagine them hunting tribals
daring bramble
Every time I see mercs I just think of the Umbrella corp from RE lol
teal lava
I'm excited for how they're gunna work out the new dino spawn system
teal stirrup
outsourced to neo-russian expatriate mercenaries for economical reasons 
teal lava
cause Ik someone on the dev team wanted crates to parachute from the sky and let you loose in a cage
worn pulsar
AE will be sued by pue mothers
daring bramble
Oh yea, I heard it was gonna be like crates drop with your dino instead but idk if they still plan on doing that
oop you beat me to that whiskey lol
teal lava
yeee, idk I guess we'll see in the future 😂
teal stirrup
I could see Juvie spawning being explained with that. Makes sense. Nesting will probably still be around though.
teal lava
oh absolutely
teal lava
nesting will most certainly be a thing, since genetic traits and the abilities to pass them down to your offspring as well as your skin
worn pulsar
Maybe genetic traits have enhancements?
teal lava
eventually
worn pulsar
So, some spinos might be able to
Have stronger bite force
Here's hwat I imagine:
Mercs arriving, shooting down tribals with Utahs attacking
And hypos would be heard
teal stirrup
Tribals are the real mystery to me
daring bramble
I heard that some genetics would have you be able to be an albino dino?
teal lava
increases to certain abilities, and aesthetic appearances, but it'll require schmeemeemee
daring bramble
yea, we haven't heard much about tribals
besides they'll be able to force tame dinos
teal lava
Which in the words of Dondi means "they lay down, they close their eyes, and they don't wake back up"
that's how you'll get permanent ability and appearance stuff, at least that's what the dev Q&A said, it's all still up in the air
daring bramble
it's so dark cause shit like that actually happens too-
teal lava
you get old, and you die
your next life will be easier because you lived your lifespan
no more running out of shit to do after reaching adult
cause you'll then have elder, weakened elder, and then death from old age, allowing for upgrades
daring bramble
WQ update brb
teal lava
so seasoned veteran players will be able to main their dino and become literal gods in their species
worn pulsar
I kinda just want some servers
teal lava
cheshire #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
teal stirrup
if cannibals can build statues maybe they're the tribals
teal lava
Why? What's the fun in playing an adult dino forever without ever improving after a certain point?
worn pulsar
Meh, I kinda like preserving my old ass Allo
teal lava
tribals and cannibals are different, the cannibals are basically humans but with strains
teal lava
We can't be of any more help here man I'm sorry
we're even less help than they are because we aren't discussing those topics
teal stirrup
really? it's cool to me either way I think cannibals look REALLY fun and tribal sounds cool too. If they get combined through strains that'd be awesome
worn pulsar
I restarted game then I got into a Chinese server we proclaimed as English LOL
And they were all mad
teal lava
Idk I'm just assuming through concepts that the cannibals are somehow related to the strains, since the concepts seemed to include tisso and neuro like appearances
teal lava
The troubleshooting chat is for issues, it's the best place to ask, doesn't mean it's a guranteed fix, but it's the best you'll get
teal stirrup
they get referred to as "Echidnas" on occasion so if they're some crazy strain of mutant that lays eggs that'd be crazy cool
daring bramble
back, what has the convo detoured to?
worn pulsar
If we see em in game I’d imagine them slaughtering
teal stirrup
@daring bramble sorry I think I derailed it to cannibals and mutants
teal lava
I'm done trying to direct it, I just wanted to discuss EVRIMA 😂😭
worn pulsar
I’m bouta head out, @teal lava you seem cool we could talk in DM later idk
teal stirrup
yeah sorry I'll hush now, this is evrima feedback channel after all
daring bramble
and got out of hand or like human mutants
teal stirrup
@daring bramble https://isle.fandom.com/wiki/Cannibal
teal lava
I don't really use dms but thx for asking! XD
daring bramble
Cause I think hypos would be a cause of humans messing up trying to create a dinosaur or something like that which would be funny if hypos are still gonna be a thing
ugh I love art of cannibals/wendigos
worn pulsar
Last note
daring bramble
omg they do kind of look like them lol
worn pulsar
Current isle wiki is trash
daring bramble
except they're upright
teal lava
no they remind me of something else....I can't think of what tho
teal stirrup
@daring bramble the concept art has them pouncing a carno which looks really cool
teal lava
freaking terrifying
daring bramble
that's so cool
worn pulsar
To make them cannibals
teal lava
Oh goodness
daring bramble
Now I'm excited to get pounced by a cannibal as a trike xD
teal lava
I'd be down
teal lava
I'd fund it
worn pulsar
Evil SCP FOundation lmao
But like after that they go completely insane
And soon they break free
teal lava
Man I got a character that would fit perfectly in that world
teal lava
Watch me
daring bramble
To see a carno fight a cannibal would be cool
teal lava
I'm the defier of logic
worn pulsar
And now I imagine Allo-Cannibal combat
worn pulsar
Troodons would call the boys
teal lava
Hypsi vs cannibal, I'll do it
worn pulsar
Troodon victory
teal lava
Screm and pek
daring bramble
I'll be standing far away with my anky bby lol
teal lava
I'm gunna update the isle anyway, but I'm still waiting for a friend, just want to get the yucky wait time out of the way XD
ooo das a spicy file
worn pulsar
Evrima is uh
I feel like first focus
Servers, glitches
2nd better dinosaurs
Utah and Tenoto are simple
teal lava
LAg from 12k peeps, had that talk not doing it again
worn pulsar
As they’re small lol
teal lava
2 first dinos, they'll add more, also discussed, not doing it again XD
daring bramble
@frosty dew This isn't the place for troubleshoot stuff, ask in isle discussion or one of the troubleshooting channels
teal lava
it's intentional that they're that small
frosty dew
that was feedback
teal lava
they're simple because they were the first
frosty dew
but either way, this is a wonderful update
worn pulsar
I guess that relates to the Triassic in a way?
daring bramble
That didn't look like feedback? but okay, but still, any stuff about the game not working needs to be asked elsewhere
frosty dew
yea yea whatever
teal stirrup
oh sweet I finally got into a server
teal lava
I think it's not as deep as that, they're just doing it because those dinosaurs are good starters. The tenonto is a good herbi for the utah and the utah was the groundwork for EVERY mechanic now in the game, with maybe a few exceptions
worn pulsar
We need behind attacks for Utah
daring bramble
Same thing @barren zephyr have to bring it up elsewhere
worn pulsar
Later on
teal lava
Why? They don't have any natural defenses for their rear XD
worn pulsar
Oh wait yeah
daring bramble
@teal stirrup people are finally logging off lol
teal lava
The tenonto has a rear attack because of its tail, otherwise it would just be the two
MOOD
Happy hour BOISSS
daring bramble
teal lava
I just ignore them
worn pulsar
They don’t even know WHY it’s not doing well
daring bramble
Yea, it's annoying but nothing much can be done
teal lava
Not worth my time and attention
worn pulsar
The only problem I have with the games devs are you know
teal lava
since there's an abundance and they aren't going to stop, I don't consider it worth my limited time and energy
worn pulsar
Anky is not a bad animal
teal lava
who said it was? 😂
daring bramble
Anky love
teal lava
I love anky
worn pulsar
Anky took me out
teal lava
the true trumpet
worn pulsar
Anky was ok
teal lava
HJONK
worn pulsar
daring bramble
Hammer tail boi
worn pulsar
teal lava
daring bramble
Anky was my favorite dino and the reason I got into dinosaurs lol
teal lava
I think they also mentioned wanting to work on the hypsi so I'm excited for that too
worn pulsar
daring bramble
Isn't hypsi ai only?
teal lava
nope
daring bramble
Or are they playable too
worn pulsar
Mercs to tribalscirca 2030
teal lava
they announced that everything listed will actually be playable
minmi, hypsi, all of it
worn pulsar
Will more be coming after that?
daring bramble
I can get my brachi boi
teal lava
oh yes totally
north beacon
this game is covid-19
daring bramble
omf
worn pulsar
stfu covid is annoying af
teal lava
I think they replaced the pue with the brachi
daring bramble
it's true tho, at the start it was like that too
teal lava
I can't wait to see brachi babies
daring bramble
I like brachi more anyway, long neck
worn pulsar
I want diplodocus one day
daring bramble
the og long neck
teal lava
yeee
worn pulsar
As something that carnis can take down in packs as big prey easier
cough big al..
bro big al a cool guy
north beacon
@worn pulsar cc tu veu voir mon tra lala
worn pulsar
?
daring bramble
I'm going to enjoy being a brachi and just chill
daring bramble
and trample everyone
north beacon
@worn pulsar elite tes qui dans l'esport
worn pulsar
You know when the first anti-sauropod carnivores come you’re dead
The ones who kill em in packs
teal lava
what would be anti-sauropod?
worn pulsar
Uh, mapu?
north beacon
where is my money
worn pulsar
Not sure but mapu probably won’t come
worn pulsar
Mapu would be anti-sauropod in packs.
teal lava
what's its full name?
worn pulsar
Mapusaurus
worn pulsar
It would be fitting since sauropods are untouchable
And allo packs aren’t enough they’re glass cannons
teal lava
ahh it's a carcharodontosaurid, yeah that makes more sense XD
daring bramble
Would they add mapu? I thought someone said it's too much like carno or something
worn pulsar
They’re meant for hunting
teal lava
idk if they're planning on adding one from each semi-unique family/genus
worn pulsar
Carno hunting a sauropod excuse me what
north beacon
@worn pulsar ques ki dit mon copain
teal lava
the carchars are pretty hefty dinosaurs, I have a hard time seeing them as carnos XD
worn pulsar
??
teal lava
more like acros than anything
worn pulsar
Charchars are very good predators
north beacon
@worn pulsar tes pas un peu narvalo jai jamais vue sa de mes yeux
worn pulsar
A tyrannosaurus can take one down due to bone break but that’s really it
Tyrannosaurs are the only real challenger to major preds
daring bramble
Some people have asked for carchar actually
teal lava
@north beacon Please stop pinging people on every message
worn pulsar
Charchar is major bleed.
teal lava
they have?
daring bramble
Yea
teal lava
Tbh idk how bleed is gunna work because of the change in its nature
worn pulsar
Charchar are land shakes
teal lava
since it won't damage anymore
daring bramble
But it's been met with downvotes and saying it'd be too much like acro or carno or something
teal lava
acro yes, carno no
worn pulsar
God I hate acro
teal lava
worn pulsar
Idk why
teal lava
the ones in legacy are too big, there's an issue with their size
daring bramble
I never dwelled to into carnis
teal lava
they're only supposed to be around allo size
daring bramble
I've always been with the herbis
daring bramble
And omnis
teal lava
I'm sorta an all around person, I try everything
daring bramble
I feel carnis are too hyped and I'm more of a chill person so herbi is more my style lol
north beacon
4 years for a poopies 💩
teal lava
I like a balance of chaos and calm
daring bramble
Omni is def that on occasions lol
teal lava
so when I'm feeling energized I play a small carni, when I want to chill I play a mid sized herbi
Oh YES
I can't wait for ovi
that'll be a treat in customization
mild walrus
worn pulsar
Ovi more like egg goodbye
daring bramble
Oh ovi looks so nice, especially it's tail feathers
teal lava
@mild walrus #608693014054830103 please
worn pulsar
Fuck Ovis man they took my eggs
daring bramble
And the colors omg
teal lava
splendid
daring bramble
I hope we can customize the tail colors
teal lava
YES
Color customization will be incredible, I'll finally get to customize my raptor to look like my actual oc
daring bramble
A blue/green fade
north beacon
david goodenough 😂
daring bramble
You could make so many pretty fades with the ovi's tail feathers
teal lava
or....ooooo I have a galli rn that has a white belly that fades up to a dark red back and blue stripes, a full sunset
daring bramble
purple/red fade probably too
teal lava
I want that on all my dinosaurs
daring bramble
ugh sunset schemes
teal lava
like pale yellows, orange, red, deep burgundy and blue
It makes me salivate it's so drop dead gorgeous
idc if it's revealing and stupid realistically it's pretty
just like the eventual planned emotes
daring bramble
ooo yea
teal lava
idc if it's endangering me, it's immersive
daring bramble
I wonder if all dinos are gonna be able to wallow or just certain ones
I don't think I can see an anky wallowing in mud lol
teal lava
I think pretty much all, since it removes foot prints for a short amount of time
just, drops to its tummy and wiggles
like a snek
daring bramble
If anky does then I won't even be mad cause that'd be adorable
teal lava
I don't think it would roll, but it would coat its legs and stomach
daring bramble
oh yea, cause it's already protected with that back shell
speaking, if utahs get hurt pouncing an anky cause of it's back 10/10
or even don't do much damage at all cause of it
daring bramble
omg lol
north beacon
daring bramble
@tiny star would ask somewhere else about that, but I suggest waiting tomorrow and try again or later on
@green acorn @bitter thistle Take that somewhere else, devs don't want chatting in the feedback
but yea, also excited to hear anky cries, just excited for anky in general lol
mental sleet
Gentleman please, if you find holes and other problematic areas on the map, don't post them in #general-feedback , it WILL get lost, rather, keep a screenshot around for when Bug Reports opens.
feral wedge
@forest grove Please post that in #723290219826249819 #723294838610722847 or #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
haughty zinc
Hi I was curious if we will have maps to go along with this update?
spring shuttle
Can we not have ravines on the map, I just fell in a tenonto and now Im just slowly starving to death
void sundial
Hi@spring shuttle
teal lava
Sry vixen I just died 😂 anky calls are gunna be so cute
spring shuttle
at least make it insta kill you so you dont have to wait like an idiot
daring bramble
Ah, nah you're fine lol I was just reading isle discussion lol
void sundial
Hi??????@spring shuttle
spring shuttle
@void sundial Hello
void sundial
@spring shuttle srry me, are there other things you will put into the game to entertain yourself when you are not hungry or thirsty or when you do not have to do anything, for example, when you bathe in the mud, open other Mechanics so as not to get bored?
spring shuttle
@void sundial Im sorry not really following Im not a dev lol
void sundial
@spring shuttle Do you know who if it's to ask him?
spring shuttle
Just leave feedback here
void sundial
O ok
fresh rain
when are more dinos coming out
indigo sun
When theyre ready
subtle bronze
really? You're asking here? They won't come in until at least 2-4 weeks, so expect a month.
teal stirrup
as soon as they get updated to work in the recode
indigo sun
Theyre still working out kinks in this first release, dinos arent something thats gonna come for a couple weeks
subtle bronze
overall I had a great time, the collision system is a bit odd, but it's there, it does in fact prevent people from passing into you in a T fashion.
molten tulip
Is there a way to fix the darkness bug that happens when you lower your graphics
halcyon ledge
so i got the beta update but for some reason its not letting play any of the servers
teal stirrup
@halcyon ledge it's a pretty common problem try restarting your game and joining a few different ones
subtle bronze
tenonto has some godly stamina
fresh rain
@subtle bronze yea im asking here
subtle bronze
@fresh rain how about stop asking? This is a feedback discussion, not general chat. Think others already answered your question so many times, it's irritating now.
teal stirrup
until the AI gets re enabled you don't want to play anything bigger anyway you'll starve every time trust me
people running in big packs right now
subtle bronze
I mean tenonto as a whole is fun. adult form is stable because of the plentiful food supply
scent mechanism is interesting on their side, tracking down specific plants that boost growth speed.
I'll have to try Utah some other time to see how their scent system is in comparison to Tenonto.
freelook as a whole negates criticism about "not able to predict a Utah attacking you from behind to back kick" some person was talking about on a youtube stream yesterday
you can sprint and freelook at the sametime, and kick while running and doing it. It's great.
bleak meteor
Hunting Tenoto is pretty fun from the Utah perspective, I find. There's a lot of intricate dodging going to avoid the stronger attacks and then punishing their downtime, while also avoiding the much faster bite move they have. While a 1 v 1 is pretty unlikely for a Utah, it certainly seems doable, and if the raptors have a group, they can very easily whittle down a pack of Tenontos.
With the new systems in place for locational damage, going for that headshot on a sloppy back kick is a satisfying sport.
subtle bronze
from what I saw from Utah stream, it looks so intense on both sides
overall a definite thumbs up and an improvement to combat. Here's hoping for more tweaks.
bleak meteor
Also, while there's people complaining that even a bit of clipping exists, right now the actual hitboxes work very well. You can navigate your way along the Tenonto's collision and when it stops nudging you, you're in line for the headshot
halcyon ledge
so tried uninstalling the game resetting my game with the new update/beta server just wont load and other times it will just send me back the main screen again. i need to know.
subtle bronze
you're loading into servers that are already full.
daring bramble
teal stirrup
pretty much any time you get disconnected it also sends you back to main screen
bleak meteor
Feels kinda like a bossfight currently, which is fun. The only issues I have is you can tell when a Tenonto is lagging by the way its hitboxes bork out, and the Tenonto backkick seems to be a bit janky at points.
halcyon ledge
i have not tho the one ive been loading into are one are like 50/60
real bison
guys do we just do the same thing we did to get EV to get legacy back?
daring bramble
yes
teal lava
Yee yee
real bison
thanks
daring bramble
ywyw
real bison
holy shit, no lie. tried one last time after hours of trying to get in before moving back to legacy
it loaded
UwU
hollow ember
do we have to report when we find holes?
barren zephyr
idk why this got released tbh, ppl been waiting 7 months since the trailer, another 6 months dont hurt anybody
except people dying of old age
raw finch
@barren zephyr so it isnt working for you, Im out of my house so I havent seen anything but the discord chats, Some people say they have had heaps of fun but tothers not so much.
barren zephyr
@raw finch yea super fun to play 2 different species of dinosaurs in a dense ass forest, also being able to 2 shot a utah as a tenonto juvie
raw finch
@raw finch yea super fun to play 2 different species of dinosaurs in a dense ass forest, also being able to 2 shot a utah as a tenonto juvie
@barren zephyr Oof so its not to good for you
barren zephyr
well the trailer is dope, but the content right now is meme worthy
raw finch
its like Atlas and dragon simulator game
Idk im still excited to see it
But they probably gonna fix the bugs ASAP
barren zephyr
ye mb gonna take another 2 years xd
raw finch
lmao
barren zephyr
also i dont understand why the devs are so shallow with information
marketing strats for an indie game? h
its not like were expecting a AAA game
onyx sandal
Yo I got kicked from a server cuz technical difficulties, does my Dino save? I had a full grow tento
indigo sun
Its not gonna be amazing, its a beta. Thats why theyve got the legacy version and all the shit planned in the future for the new version
barren zephyr
theyve made a map and animations in a full year
look on the rihgt side
10 developers
and theyve made a map
some sounds
and some animations
for 2 dinos
delicate wing
they mad a game from code up is what they did
and they have been redoing all the dinos not just these two
they are just wanting to make sure the dinos, that are the ground work for all the new stuff are working
before adding it to all the others
and it's better to start smaller
barren zephyr
theyve literally recreated the same game for no reason
indigo sun
You dont have to play the new version if youre unhappy with it. They plan on adding more content, it just takes a while to make sure the game isnt full of awful bugs, as shown by this release
barren zephyr
its the same but worse
indigo sun
Dont bother schnipples, honestly
barren zephyr
?
delicate wing
don't know why i'm bothering
barren zephyr
you wont bother because i have a different opinion
then whats the point of this channel?
delicate wing
because you all say the same stuff over and over again
indigo sun
I wont bother because theres no point in continuing a conversation about this. We have differing opinions Im not changing yours youre not changing mine
delicate wing
and when someone else points out the reason and evidence
haughty cliff
Hey Kinglaps did you play tenonto?