ye but, they already need way more food then smaller animals
#general-feedback-discussion
left nacelle
And a lot of the bigger animals already can't gain stam without resting too
valid zephyr
@simple wasp so you mean if they want to nest they have to auto reveal their position to hostile megapacks which can then track them down and murder them? very bad idea.
safe galleon
a hostile mega pack of male maias smell a female maia with nest and go kill the female
as an example
simple wasp
yea dinos usually like there own species to it would be rare for something like that to happen
and i was saying it as if there wasnt a megapack
@valid zephyr if thats the case wouldnt the deinosuchus not have to eat for 4 real life days since they dont have to eat for a long time.
lilac swallow
People that want to kill Will only see It as a easy kill, they wont care about being same species
strange wave
ya @ ed the wrong person @simple wasp
simple wasp
yea but theres only 1 out of 5 people like that
i know
but i dont wanna retype it XD
strange wave
you can just edit it?
lilac swallow
There really isnt 1 to 5
Even then 1/5 is way too high for a obligatory decoy whenever you nest
simple wasp
it isnt as high as the amount of players that wont kill there own species without a good reasion
valid zephyr
in officials packs of herbis wiping their own species is a daily thing
simple wasp
not for me
lilac swallow
People just want blood
simple wasp
i rarely see it
valid zephyr
also if i'm female and want to nest, i don't want every male player on the island being able to know my location
simple wasp
ive had the game since the acro was small and ive only seen that happen 30 times
but its not every male player
its every male of the same dino
left nacelle
I don't really see the point of that feature anyway. Why would the female even make a nest if they don't already have a male to fertilize it?
lilac swallow
Rex, gigas and utahs do love canibalizing
valid zephyr
yeah that's what i meant. still don't want it.
maybe it's because i play in basically the most toxic server in the entire game, but i prefer for only me and the people i'm nesting to know the location.
- a single male when they're needed
lilac swallow
Nesting would be literally unviable for them
valid zephyr
carnivores cannibalise constantly
and there is often a big maia or trike herd patrolling to kill their own species
lilac swallow
Specially those i listed, larger playerbase=larger amount of idiots
simple wasp
i rarely see packs of the same dino killing the same species for carnivores yea but herbivores dont really kill there own that much
left nacelle
Ngl, if this was added I would probably use it to cannibalize. And I'm the type of person who hates it when people do that type of stuff
I'd argue that herbivores kill their own kind more than carnivores do
simple wasp
no i think carnivore kill there own more than herbivores
carnivore either do it for fun or for food
and herbivores would do it for fun
left nacelle
Carnivores usually pack up with their own species in my experience
lilac swallow
There isnt really a difference between carni players and herbi players, people barely play like animals a player play a Utah and trike the same
left nacelle
Herbivores are more prone to being aggressive cause their playstyle is so boring right now
simple wasp
true but u can say the same as a carnivore
left nacelle
Not really. Being a carnivore is much more entertaining
simple wasp
since carnivores usually start megapacks
lilac swallow
There are herbi megapacks too
left nacelle
But either way the nest thing isn't a very good idea because of how players are, its just unnecessary. Broadcasting could do the same thing
lilac swallow
Too many bushes and too few herbis
safe galleon
well big herbi packs do need to migrate since they eat all bushes
simple wasp
well i see everyone with there crap suggestions and getting thumbs up and when i see a good suggestion it gets a thumbs down so i wanted to give a crap suggestion
but thats just my opinion
left nacelle
Well if that's your opinion, I don't see why you'd intentionally give a "crap suggestion" and then try to defend it
simple wasp
so i can see how many thumbs up i can get
but appearently theres something im not seeing
left nacelle
You're supposed to think the suggestion through, not just post one hoping to get thumbs up. Think about how players would use it and if it can be abused or not
left nacelle
Which one are you referring to?
simple wasp
the one where they wanted to add grass to bottom of swamp
lilac swallow
Generally good suggestions get thumb ups and bad suggestion get thumb downs idk what you talking about
icy lion
how is that a bad suggestion lmao
simple wasp
or certain plants you wouldnt even notice
left nacelle
That one doesn't need a lot of thought to it because it's a visual thing
simple wasp
all there asking is to put grass in water
left nacelle
And you would notice it because people are gonna be underwater now
icy lion
short, sweet, simple, no downsides
simple wasp
its something u would glance and not even notice
icy lion
vs dnos being able to actively track and possibly grief others nesting
left nacelle
It's something you don't notice but if t isn't there it looks bad
simple wasp
yea but wats the point of putting something if no one will notice it
left nacelle
Ambiance
simple wasp
but when someone gives a great suggestion it gets thumbs down
barren zephyr
Dolphin ingame
simple wasp
i also have a example for that one too
lilac swallow
Thats simply not true
icy lion
id say people would notice it if theyre willing to thumb it
left nacelle
What's your example, parasyte?
lilac swallow
@barren zephyr dude i like icthyo but spaming that Will only help people dislike it
icy lion
plus were already getting underwater foliage, want that to be removed cuz no one will notice?
simple wasp
the suggestion that didnt get much attention as the "simple" ones was that deinosuchus should get a extreme ambush speed for 0.5 seconds to act as the deinosuchus launching out of the water to attack
icy lion
isnt that already planned
left nacelle
Something like that is planned but not that exact thing for obvious reasons
Deino will be able to launch out of the water
But it won't be getting an extreme ambush speed. That could easily be abused
simple wasp
there was another good suggestion but i forgot that one
yea but its for a short amount of time
so it would be like it ambushed a dino that got too close to water
icy lion
deinos getting its own "type" of ambush in the launch so why give it default ambush
simple wasp
i never even heard about the ambush its getting
icy lion
did the ambush suggestion have a clock on it?
strange wave
@barren zephyr itchthyosaurus ain't great for a river dolphin niche, Pannoniasaurus would be better because it could atleast haul itself to other rivers when one drys up
left nacelle
This ⏲️
simple wasp
yea
left nacelle
It means it's already coming
strange wave
that means it coming
simple wasp
oh
left nacelle
So any suggestion that has ⏲️ means it's already planned or something vey similar to it is planned
simple wasp
but couldnt some random have placed it
left nacelle
Yeah, but then there would only be one
simple wasp
just because he THINKS its coming
left nacelle
And I don't see why they would do that
left nacelle
You can also tell how credible it is by seeing who put it there
And again, if it has a lot of timers, then it's coming
icy lion
sometimes the facepalm emote means the same thing like the more recent scent color suggestion
left nacelle
@neat beacon I think it would look weird having Pteranodons with different wings and having them fly differently. I think it would be better if there were different flying animals that specialize in different ways of flying. Rather than one animal having different wing designs. Could be cool if it's purely cosmetic tho
neat beacon
I was thinking of just making it cosmetic too
left nacelle
Then you should probably change around the suggestion to reflect that lol
icy lion
yea id be fine with slight cosmetic differences
neat beacon
just got inspired by this lol
left nacelle
I wouldn't be surprised if we're already getting that come to think of it. Dondi did say we'd be able to customize things like Trikes horns and stuff
icy lion
yeaa, but having the same animal fly differently would be odd. save it for another flyer imo
neat beacon
So change it to cosmetic
left nacelle
Yeah
neat beacon
there
left nacelle
You should probably delete it and repost it actually, since the people who downvoted likely aren't gonna remove the downvotes lol
icy lion
yea, its a completely different suggestion now p much
neat beacon
there
icy lion
👌
left nacelle
simple wasp
since its pretty much like the theri
left nacelle
@wraith breach
simple wasp
XD
wraith breach
@left nacelle what do u mean what did I say wrong ?
left nacelle
Oh your suggestion came off as a joke to me, my bad. But you probably should post suggestions that are pee/poo related, they can get you a strike quite easily
simple wasp
lol
wraith breach
No it's not a joke
simple wasp
thats understandable hes pretty much asking the devs to make a turd
wraith breach
Animals do that in real
simple wasp
lol
left nacelle
We are getting scratching and stuff. But there won't be any sort of territory system or peeing or anything like that
left nacelle
A lot of people in the community can be weirdos and people will turn that into weird stuff
wraith breach
Scratches and urine will work
left nacelle
No urine
safe galleon
no urine
simple wasp
get ready bitsy you are about to be attacked XD
left nacelle
People will do very gross things with that
icy lion
i thiink there was mention of mudbathing and scratching trees being planned
simple wasp
i got attacked for my last suggestion too
left nacelle
You didn't get attacked lol
icy lion
you literally called it a "crap suggestion you posted for likes" of course you were
left nacelle
There were 4 of us explaining what was wrong with it
simple wasp
ik
left nacelle
Attacking would be insulting it and saying it's a shit idea, which it wasn't
neat beacon
LMAO imagine saying you were attacked when they explained some shit
simple wasp
i didnt say yall were insulting me
left nacelle
It was actually a pretty unique suggestion compared to other ones I've seen, it just wouldn't work in game
neat beacon
Kinda what attacking means
neat beacon
Nice
neat beacon
Ye just removet he urine part
left nacelle
There's gonna be lots of stuff. Scratching, tree rubbing etc
neat beacon
No there isnt lol
simple wasp
i might get a strike for saying that
simple wasp
yea but werent they gunna add them if they got 50 something likes
left nacelle
Add what
simple wasp
and it ended up exceeding it
neat beacon
No, that's up to the devs
simple wasp
bird im not saying it again XD
neat beacon
No matter how many likes it has it is all up to them
left nacelle
It was a joke lol
neat beacon
Yeah, they have to agree it
simple wasp
its hard to tell if they joke or not
safe galleon
what do you mean by "mating", like just needing a male and female or (god forbid) animations?
safe galleon
neat beacon
Uh, no
safe galleon
no...
indigo sun
Theyre not adding mating animations no matter how many likes or upvotes anything gets
indigo sun
Unless you wanna pay bryan yourself for all the fuckton of pain youre going to put him through, he's not doing them
neat beacon
Like in what world
simple wasp
someone might donate them 1 mil to do it
wraith breach
I've many good suggestions for the isle game only
indigo sun
They wouldnt even do it then
neat beacon
they wouldnt add it into the game
indigo sun
It's not happening. Dondi said its not happening. Bryan would literally refuse to do it. You're not even allowed to joke about mating animations in general discussion anymore.
sudden hinge
Nines is right they aren’t adding mating animations there is no need for it
neat beacon
dont joke about mating animations anywhere
sudden hinge
Big facts
harsh silo
@ebon atlas that's already a thing that dondi showed off less than a week ago. It seems like footprints will remain yellow and I agree to that, adds more mystery as to "someone walked this way, should I go to them?". But water will be blue colored, plants will be green and I'm guessing (it hasn't been shown off yet) bodies/meat/gore will be red
someone might donate them 1 mil to do it
simple wasp
why is everyone so sensitive with that XD
indigo sun
The whole ass dev team is so against it
harsh silo
why the hell do ya'll want dinosaurs to literally have sex, damn
wraith breach
Playing animation is fine
harsh silo
it's not sensitive, it's disgust
simple wasp
i can understand the devs not liking it but why the viewer/player
barren zephyr
its fucking gross thats way
wraith breach
I do not want porn in the isle
barren zephyr
why
neat beacon
because its gross af
indigo sun
Because its nasty and its annoying when fuckers have been asking for this shit for years. We dont need dino sex in the game. It aint a porn game. Its a horror game.
strange wave
i can understand the devs not liking it but why the viewer/player
@simple wasp because i dont want to see two dinosaurs fucking in the woods
wraith breach
I'm against porn anyway
harsh silo
yes it is, we don't want scalie porn on the game that's all man, and I may sound blunt but it's the truth at least in my opinion
i would love to go in front of everyone and just do that XD
what the fuck
strange wave
wtf is wrong with you
harsh silo
indigo sun
Can this person get yeeted
simple wasp
everyone
indigo sun
Like, fuckin please.
harsh silo
what's wrong with this guy 
wraith breach
Stop trolling
simple wasp
everything i mean
harsh silo
yeah no wonder
simple wasp
im not i swear to god im serious
strange wave
im not i swear to god im serious
@simple wasp even worse
neat beacon
What the actual fuck is wrong with you
indigo sun
Nasty ass imma just block and hope you get gone soon
wraith breach
U have troll in blood u don't even know
strange wave
fuck it goodbye <@&401466542140817419>
simple wasp
im not saying i like it im saying it would be funny to disgust everyone
neat beacon
It would not be funny period.
neat beacon
It would be absolutely disgusting.
harsh silo
somber parrot
Uuuh
harsh silo
you'd just be a creep doing that
icy lion
hi mei
simple wasp
what do u even mean
harsh silo
do u go and do the thing in front of other people for fun or what
simple wasp
damn well srry for saything anything
neat beacon
like you'll be known as the creep and be avoided by everyone in the game
safe galleon
simple wasp
damn yall are saying im a troll look at all of u teaming up on one person
harsh silo
it's a horror game not a "fantasy" or whatever
i mean ofc
do u even know what u are talking about
strange wave
because you are a troll
safe galleon
lets switch topic
neat beacon
Because you're absolutely gross af.
harsh silo
did u expect us to agree with u or smth, wth
simple wasp
gross and funny are 2 different thing and funny is the word
harsh silo
I'm moving on
wheat igloo
What is going on?
harsh silo
if it's funny for u it aint funny for others
simple wasp
im being attacked by words
barren zephyr
they want dino porn in game
indigo sun
Mating animations, CMG.
barren zephyr
basically
somber parrot
I'm really confused of what is going on, but please keep it civil
harsh silo
mating animation stuff again
simple wasp
i didnt say i wanted mating animations
indigo sun
Like, just read parasyte's messages
neat beacon
YOU JUST DID
strange wave
yes you did
barren zephyr
just scroll up and u can see some of the stuff they were saying, its kind of gross
safe galleon
you did tho
harsh silo
u just did though??
simple wasp
i said it would be funny
somber parrot
Guys, chill
simple wasp
shit
harsh silo
I'm calm 🙌 idk about others, I'm more shocked than anything
simple wasp
it turned from a joke into some serious shit
strange wave
it turned from a joke into some serious shit
@simple wasp o rly https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/423939730544132096/718903218096177152
wraith breach
Ok stop ✋ think about better ideas
harsh silo
mating animations have been "joked" around with and suggested a lot btw
somber parrot
Guys, drop it
strange wave
ok
harsh silo
yes ma'am
simple wasp
ok
simple wasp
no it wont
icy lion
its fine lol, you didnt push it and the scratching leaving tracks was only briefly mentioned on one of dondi's streams
wraith breach
I hope they still work on scratches and marks
simple wasp
i already made the mistake once im not gunna do it again XD
harsh silo
they will probably be worked on, for tracking specially
and well, mudbaths will hide your scent too so the marks will definetly be a thing
icy lion
i think dondi said mudbaths wouldnt leave a scent but youd be able to clearly see that someone used it
and then maybe footprints from the mud would only be visual and not sniffable? thatd be kinda cool
harsh silo
dont know but yeah you'll be able to tell someone wallowed on the mud
left nacelle
@barren zephyr I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're making allo an endurance hunter. Meaning it'll have high stamina and will chase things down, like we used to do back in the good ol' days
covert birch
I mean, with that speed boost it got
Combined with super stam
It aint gonna be a good time for smalls
left nacelle
Oh yeah, didn't even think about that 
honest sparrow
mfw they seem to be pushing allo as an ambush predator 
sudden hinge
Yea I think allo needs to be ambush hunter to be fair to the smols
Especially with the size buff
No need for it to have crazy endurance
Give it insane speed for short distances
left nacelle
I don't think it'll be that bad. Seemingly everything's getting a speed buff. So it'll probably all balance out
sudden hinge
I hope so because speedy allo sounds scary to smols
paper oriole
Eh i think some dinos, like rex, cerato, rugops etc shouldnt be punished for cannibalism
left nacelle
Agreed. I think mainly the non-social ones shouldn't be punished
paper oriole
Some should be rewarded even i think, might be too far tho idk
ashen wasp
i think i remember hearing, way way back, about penalties for cannibalism under normal circumstances being planned (with the exception of Ceratosaurus or something, there was talk about a niche for a super-scavenger that could digest rotted flesh and that of its own kind)
not sure if these are the current plans, though
paper oriole
Uea cerato should just be able to eat any meat, be it rotten or cannibalism. Carno and rugops i think could be cannibals because there has been evidence of abelisaurid cannibalism.
And rex cannibalism would likely just be a side effect of eliminating competition
left nacelle
Maybe the animals that are meant to be solitary could be rewarded for cannibalism. Like apexes or carnos
paper oriole
Yeah or depending on niche, if herrera does snag the monitor lizard niche, it could eat juveniles but be discouraged from killing other adults for food
left nacelle
I made a suggestion about cannibalism a while ago and it got 40+ thumbs up but a few people didn't like it and I'm kinda curious why
cyan flame
Not a fan of making it based on "artifical" limits, social or otherwise. Cannibalism should be something you do when there's either no other food, or simply the most common food source, but I'd rather see the punishment in that you should want/need your own kind around, at the very least one other for nesting, and obviously packs need a pack to function well so.
left nacelle
That wouldn't be an artificial limit tho. If your animal gets sick from eating it's own kind, it's gonna make you not wanna do it. You could still do it, but you'd get sick
Outright preventing you from eating a corpse of your own species is an artificial limit
mellow seal
weren't carnos cannibals or something? it might be some other dino
left nacelle
Yeah, Buff just said that earlier
mellow seal
oop i didn't look back in the thread far enough then
left nacelle
Uea cerato should just be able to eat any meat, be it rotten or cannibalism. Carno and rugops i think could be cannibals because there has been evidence of abelisaurid cannibalism.
Here's what they said ☝️
indigo sun
@cunning tide Mapu and carcha are literally just giga but a little teensy bit different looks-wise
Also
valid zephyr
They could potentially end up as alternate skins for giga or acro maybe?
indigo sun
Yeah thats about it
indigo sun
Adding photos doesnt make them not giga clones
pale sorrel
Majungasaurus was seen to have cannibalised IRL
indigo sun
Aint majunga
Its mapu
Would perform no different from giga
And carcha's so similar they turned that into the juvi giga model
pale sorrel
Did they? 😮 I had no idea
indigo sun
Mhm.
pale sorrel
Huh... you learn something new every day, I guess – or rather, night 😆
Anyways yes, I agree. All abelisaurids should be able to cannibalise in The Isle
indigo sun
Maybe not all but i can agree at least some of em should be able to cannibalize
indigo sun
Personally I think Changyuraptor would work better than archaeopteryx. It's a good bit larger and could actually interact with other animals in the ecosystem
strange wave
archaeopteryx isnt a good idea for the game
muted fog
Perhaps honestly I was just looking for a glider with better turn radius than ptero
indigo sun
Its a neat animal but its very small
muted fog
It was also the only glider I knew
indigo sun
Slightly larger glider might be a bit better
strange wave
arche might not even glide tho
muted fog
Ik
strange wave
microraptor and changyuraptor do glide
muted fog
But either way it's still an aerial creature
With better turn radius
That was my thought process
daring sierra
You liked your own suggestion
strange wave
and changyuraptor is actually sizable
strange wave
why?
muted fog
I didnt say u have to I was just asking mb
vast wolf
this is a close up of a barberry bush with no leaves.
the thorns arent that sharp if your slow.
left nacelle
@plucky widget Mercs aren't getting growth. Also this:
honest sparrow
me when death
sudden hinge
@plucky widget you trolling for sure
left nacelle
@steep dune
steep dune
I see
left nacelle
Yep lol
steep dune
I was gonna suggest something like Deino being based off of a snapping turtle but I figured that would be received poorly
left nacelle
Deino being based off a snapping turtle wouldn't make much sense considering it's literally a crocodile lol
Oh you mean Hypo deino? That makes more sense lmao
As far as I know tho, there isn't gonna be a Hypo deino
plucky widget
or am i @sudden hinge
pale sorrel
@indigo sun Good idea! It kind of looks like a pigeon though 😛
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Changyuraptor.png
paper oriole
“More ceratopsians isn't a bad idea”
With all ceratopsians in the database we have 7, don't think we need more lmao. Also mapusaurus and carchardontosaurus are just giga with slight size adjustments, skins at best not new apexes
left nacelle
And even then, any more apexes would be too much for the ecosystem
paper oriole
Isnt the isle set on a tropical island? Doubt there'd be snowy winters
There'd likely be a wet and dry season
odd sedge
Yes, I said that it wouldn't make sense on the current map, because it's a tropical island.
That's why it would be something for future maps, that maybe are set in another climate zone
paper oriole
The old mod maps like the snow map and the tundra forest will probably make a comeback too anyhow
woven horizon
You have a point
Yeh
Now that I think of it
Yeah
I’ll try to see if there is anything special about Rajasaurus
Alright
I see that unlike Carnotaurus, Rajasaurus was actually able to head but creatures, and was primarily an ambush predator so it probably would have a bit lower ambush speed than an allo, and would have a tiny bit more control of turning than carnotaurus, and it could bite down on creatures with its mouth always open like an allo, so it most likely could be able to cause bleed 1 when biting. But this seems like a buffed up allo and I can tell by its skull that it probably had worse eyesight than a carno or allo, including night vision. But this is all an idea
vast wolf
abelisaurids were generally slow ambush hunters with explosive acceleration. and progression is irrelevant as its been replaced by survival.
woven horizon
Also, Rajasaurus would most likely not be as *t h i c c * as in other depictions
Oh
Now if feel old
vast wolf
dont get me wrong i like raja but i dont see how it can fit into the roster with cerato allo and sucho existing.
woven horizon
It’s okay, it’s only an idea
If I really was desperate into getting into the game, I would most likely remove some traits to make it a unique creature in the game, like removing bleed with a really good sent ability, I don’t know any dinosaurs that are based off using sent
vast wolf
rex was stated to have much stronger scent than utah but that doesn't mean its unique. lots of animals have good scent.
woven horizon
I also want to suggest lythronax, but I don’t have any real reason to have it in the game
It would basically just be an Alberto that does a lot of bleed, therefor it’s just an allo
indigo sun
1.) Youre not supposed to just say "oh buff this thing" why does it need the buff? How does it affect other players?
2.) Haven't you not played the game in like, forever? Have you played allo recently?
Allo's fine as it is, though everything is getting a speed increase for some reason
safe galleon
the speed boosts are probably cause the map is getting bigger and it'll be easier to travel
vast wolf
the speed boosts are mostly to be more accurate and fit more things into the roster.
supple talon
ITA?
indigo sun
what do you mean ITA?
vestal rune
@supple talon do you mean ETA? 'caus if so just check #announcements
supple talon
any italian players?
indigo sun
This is not the channel to ask
safe galleon
not the right chat
lilac swallow
Who goes to islecord, sees #general-feedback-discussion and says "i think thats a good channel to ask for people to play"
cobalt compass
that guy ^^^^
left nacelle
@zenith onyx I like that suggestion. Could be cool for a little "hard mode" too. Become elder and try surviving without a perk
random imp
no, once you choose the perk you shouldn't be able to change it mid-game
'cuz its too easy to equip the perk whenever you want, you could abuse it and change the perk depending on what you are doing
if you choose the wrong perk that's on you, next playthrough you'll know what to choose.
left nacelle
They never said "change it" they said remove it
Therefore, you remove the perk and then no perk
barren zephyr
removing it wouldnt be too bad as long as you dont get to swap it out, so yuh i think itd be pretty interesting (elder w no perk)
left nacelle
Yeah, I think you should add that it outright removes the perk @zenith onyx. Some people seem to think that you mean you can swap it mid game
neat beacon
I think that should be mandatory
left nacelle
You think what should be mandatory?
neat beacon
That you can remove and swap out perks when you select your dinosaur
you shouldn't have to have the same perks and not be able to remove them the entire time you play the game
left nacelle
Well that probably will be a thing considering you'll probably only be able to have so many perks at a time
neat beacon
Yea
naive turret
Maybe if you remove a perk you get half or less of the points back?
barren zephyr
You shouldnt be able to swap it out mid game, it can be abusable/if you make it to the next life swapping it out would be better.
🤔
left nacelle
@worldly igloo Megalania would be a better fit for what you described imo. It's quadrupedal, it's fast, and it's bigger
And Megalania's already confirmed
paper oriole
Prestosuchus > Kaprosuchus
strange wave
and long leg kapro is so fucking dead they found the paleo art of it right next to the fossils of the first sponges
blazing charm
Gonna be honest here, not sure why the Kapro suggestion is getting so much shit.
left nacelle
Cause a ton of people have suggested kapro in the past, that people are biased against it
You'd probably need a really really good kapro suggestion for it to get any notable amount of upvotes
paper oriole
Kapro is cool but imp presto would just be a more viable/unique land croc in general
mortal kestrel
Why people dont like this suggestions
left nacelle
Cause there's other animals that would work better for what they described
And kapro is constantly being suggested
paper oriole
Between baryonix for semiaquatic and prestosuchus for more land oriented croc it would probably be invalidated
left nacelle
And what they described sounds kinda like what Megalania could be like. Which is an animal that's already coming
mortal kestrel
@left nacelle Yes you are right
I think it would be nice to add carcharodontosaurus to the game
new apex
left nacelle
Carchar is literally just Giga
mortal kestrel
dont think so
left nacelle
It's probably gonna be a Giga skin in the future
The devs have said that
Plus we don't really need anymore apexes. More apexes would be too much for the ecosystem imo
paper oriole
Only real diff between carchar and giga is the snout/ridge shape
Not even close to making it a unique animal
mortal kestrel
look at this head
left nacelle
Yeah, the head's different. That's it lol
mortal kestrel
this is cool man why dont like
left nacelle
Cause it costs the devs over $7000 to add a new animal
paper oriole
It would basically be like adding daspleto when we have alberto, basically the same dino
left nacelle
So they can't just add an animal cause it looks "cool"
It has to be unique and add something to the game
vast wolf
carcha is just giga.
left nacelle
You're a bit late lol
left nacelle
I do. I have no life 
@drifting ingot Pretty sure that's already coming, but I'm not 100% positive. Feel like I've heard it somewhere
drifting ingot
oh fr? if so thats awesome
honest sparrow
is patiently waiting for another yut suggestion
left nacelle
I'd be surprised if it doesn't tbh. Dondi's a bit of a perfectionist. I don't think he wants you just swimming across a flowing river
mortal kestrel
I can only say that carcharodontosaurus and Giga are both a very different predator and Carcharodontosaurus is very unique and has a unique tooth
left nacelle
How is Carchar unique?
paper oriole
The suggestion was for him to be a nocturnal glass cannon ambusher i think
left nacelle
Even the devs have said it isn't unique enough to be it's own animal. It's most likely just gonna be a DLC skin for Giga in the future
vast wolf
^
paper oriole
Troodon is tiny and deals DoT tho
mortal kestrel
they have very different body structures and lots of sharp teeth
vast wolf
exactly troo without venom but twice its size.
paper oriole
Not a big fan of yut i just think the suggestion was not bad lol. It is a high flat dps ambusher
Could say dilo is just a bigger troodon lol
mortal kestrel
giga body carc body
drifting ingot
guys is titanoboa confirmed for the future? i see a lot of people talking about it
paper oriole
Oh god prehistoric wildlife
vast wolf
prehistoric wild life is bad 1 2 those arent compared 3 carch is legit a giga clone in every way.
mortal kestrel
you guys understand little ? please
left nacelle
vast wolf
carch is more of a giga clone than tarbo is a rex clone.
covert birch
guys is titanoboa confirmed for the future? i see a lot of people talking about it
filipe said it was greenlit by dondi
left nacelle
If you didn't look at the key on the side, you wouldn't know which is which
vast wolf
or shant and edmontosaurus.
drifting ingot
big snake time
covert birch
Not really
mortal kestrel
this is wrong body
covert birch
since he said its gonna take a long time to get added
left nacelle
No it's not lol
covert birch
Also carchar is literally just a giga clone
mortal kestrel
look at spino
paper oriole
Prehistoric wildlife is wrong body
covert birch
Prehistoric wildlife charts are also generally exaggerated
left nacelle
Just cause the spino in that one is a bit inaccurate doesn't mean they all are
covert birch
They made spino fat, the size is still correct
left nacelle
The spino is a bit fatter and the sail is the wrong shape. That's it
mortal kestrel
carc body is not thick, slightly long , okay ?
vast wolf
covert birch
looks do not determine what is unique or not
it is playstyle
Carchar would do exactly what giga does
paper oriole
Juvie giga ingame is using carchar model
paper oriole
Thats how not unique it is
mortal kestrel
But this face dont like giga you guys dont understnad
just different face
body size
and make carc
vast wolf
z3erk3r your argument is invalid.
covert birch
Its literally just giga with stat variations
left nacelle
But it would be just like giga, and we don't need any more apexes
vast wolf
post it in memes if you want to.
covert birch
And not ones that are large enough to create a playable
mortal kestrel
bi sktr git mk
frank notch
Mrgh what don't you like about my idea? just curious-
vast wolf
covert birch
I dont feel like sitting on a nest for X period of time only just to have it be infertile
frank notch
fair.
left nacelle
@frank notch That would take up slots in the nest too
vast wolf
it incentivizes players to sit and do nothing and females wont be able to nest without a male.
covert birch
They are diff species
But ingame they would function the exact same way z3rk
Which means they arent a good playable
left nacelle
Zerk, that's an inaccurate picture
frank notch
ok, i just thought it might be a good idea because juvie ovis are going to have a difficult time-
vast wolf
all charodontosaurians from 120-90 mya are very similar the most different ones being acro and tyrannotitan.
left nacelle
@frank notch Ovi isn't just gonna eat eggs fyi. It's an omnivore
covert birch
The animals appearance isnt what matters
its the playstyle
How would you make carchar different to giga in how it plays, without making it just another acro or rex or spino or giga
mortal kestrel
look at this face different
vast wolf
acro is not even a carcharodontosaur anymore i think might be an allosaurid.
frank notch
ache- forgot about that xD
left nacelle
Ovi won't even be the only animal eating eggs either lol
vast wolf
acro is also slow and heavy made to be bulky carch giga and mapu were all faster.
honest sparrow
acro is a train
frank notch
well- dont you think the eggs spoiling makes sence?
frank notch
ok.
vast wolf
and rotten eggs also smell horrible and make you horribly sick.
left nacelle
🤢 👉 🥚
honest sparrow
RNG isn't exactly a good gameplay idea imo
frank notch
yeah-
left nacelle
RNG is only good for certain things
frank notch
welp every suggestion i've given isnt good ima just give up...'
vast wolf
honest sparrow
me when chonker
mortal kestrel
🍰 🍰 🍰 🍰
left nacelle
vast wolf
acro was hella heavy and its build made it slower.
mortal kestrel
😉 😉
paper oriole
If it makes you feel any better Z youll probably see this used as a skin in the future and pretend its a unique animal
mortal kestrel
i need to know current carc fosil
junior crow
love that model
worldly igloo
Hi everyone, I just saw that my comment on Kaprosuchus coming to The Isle was not well received at all. And I just wanted to ask why bringing Kaprosuchus to The Isle would be a bad idea?
honest sparrow
scroll up
mortal kestrel
:(
honest sparrow
"Muh favorite dino isn't in the game, add it into the game dwandwi"
covert birch
Hi everyone, I just saw that my comment on Kaprosuchus coming to The Isle was not well received at all. And I just wanted to ask why bringing Kaprosuchus to The Isle would be a bad idea?
main issue i got with kapro is due to being the size of a modern croc, i doubt itll be to effective at doing stuff
Like, even if you go down the fictionalized long legged route, the bugger prolly wouldnt outrun anything that is a threat to em such as utah
Nor defend itself from em. Plus there exists better options land croc wise such as prestosuchus, who is like 400kg larger than cerato iirc
mortal kestrel
why people dont want apex
covert birch
Cuz there aint many apex carnis you can add which are unique '
Carchar being one of em
covert birch
bary
mortal kestrel
why baryonx has low atk damage
left nacelle
Your favorite dino shouldn't be determined by it stats anyway
turbid glade
utah 
left nacelle
Out of The Isle's animals, mine is Ptera. Out of prehistoric animals in general, my favorite is Anzu. But I have a lot of favorites
mortal kestrel
and ovi
mortal kestrel
I know Carc won't be added to the game, but I wish it was added 😕
left nacelle
It'll be a DLC skin for Giga
Like it'll make Giga look like Carchar, and give it different sounds. It might even give it different animations too
mortal kestrel
I think it would be nice if the carc tail is longer
left nacelle
It might be. It won't just be a texture change, it'll be a full on model change
Think of it kinda like (for lack of a better comparison) Fortnite. You get skins that completely change the look and model of things, but they function exactly the same
mortal kestrel
yes i understood what you mean
It will be nice to fly with Pteradon i want to play so much
left nacelle
Yeah. They're planning on doing that as DLC after the game comes out of Early Access. A Carchar skin for Giga was one of the only examples they gave actually
Yeah, I'm gonna be playing ptera a lot
mortal kestrel
lets make ptera pack
left nacelle
Well Ptera won't be out for a while lol
But if we come across each other in game, we can do that
left nacelle
I don't think carno will be in before Ptera
Ptera and Deino are likely to be the first ones added after Utah and Tenonto
honest sparrow
Me when dryo 
feral adder
i feel like Allosaurus has a good chance of being one of the first, as their implementing the utah pounce to work into the Allo's "huggies"
Cant f***ing wait to see that omg
vast wolf
allo is a bit to large to be in the first few.
allo will likely come after the first 14 and their counterparts.
hasty light
Will the Dieno be able to snatch a Rex and drag it into the water
paper oriole
terrorbird is basically just a galli that vores juvies instead of kicking them
no need for it
worldly igloo
A presto sounds like a good Idea, it would be scary as hell!🤣
paper oriole
a prestosuchus suddenly bursts out of the bushes
"PRESTO!!!"
worldly igloo
“PRESTO CHANGO MOTHERF*CKER”
paper oriole
it just fits so well lol
worldly igloo
It could out run predators, could fight back if caught off guard, and most importantly it has INFINITE MEME POTENTIAL!!
strange wave
Will the Dieno be able to snatch a Rex and drag it into the water
@hasty light you seriously over estimate your overweight alligator
worldly igloo
I would AT LEAST think the Dieno could pull in a sub mid-tear carnivore or even a just grown adult mid-tear carnivore like allo, cerato, or carno
strange wave
cerato is not a mid tier carnivore
honest sparrow
Pretty sure the biggest thing it can reliably take in is dibble
strange wave
and thats spotty, because the dibble size is debated
worldly igloo
“These are confusing times”
icy lion
dibble is getting shrunk and deino might be upscaled and dondi still said that dibble might still be too big
vast wolf
the devs dont want cenozoic creatures in the game. could be a mod but its still just a dromeasaur that has a beak and big feet without arms.
covert birch
the devs dont want cenozoic creatures in the game. could be a mod but its still just a dromeasaur that has a beak and big feet without arms.
Megalania and pelagornis are 2 cenozoic animals which the devs have shown support to add
One which is already confirmed
But yea, terror birds would prolly be a bit too similar to either utah or carno to work imo
vast wolf
megalania is different though.
i hate digging up quotes on discord because of how flawed the system is.
worldly igloo
If Megalania has a big chance to come to The Isle does that mean there is a super small chance for something Prestosuchus to come because it would be another more land based quadrupedal carnivorous reptile?
strange wave
i hate digging up quotes on discord because of how flawed the system is.
its better than twitch clips
muted fog
How many fliers are confirmed? Or is it just ptero rn?
worldly igloo
I guess Quetzal is somewhat confirmed because it was in the early game
honest sparrow
ptera is the only confirmed one
quetz would need a remodel and some touch ups, and pela is like soft confirmed
worldly igloo
Nice
muted fog
So I heard about dinosaurs having skins?
Has anyone talked about dracorex being a pachy skin?
honest sparrow
dracorex is basically the new juvie pachy model
it would be cool to see nontheless
muted fog
Oh
Yeah dracorex is one of my fav dinos, looks badass.
May I ask who tapwing is? Is he an official or just a fan of the isle who does art?
worldly igloo
I think Tapwing was a fan art creator that got hired to work on The Isle
That is what I heard tho so idk
strange wave
tap is a dev
honest sparrow
tapwing used to make fan art for the isle, but got hired as a dev
muted fog
Ah, so what I was seeing was prob fan art from before he got hired (if what u said was true)
Because I saw hypo quetz, tisso stego, etc and thought it had to be from a fan because I heard herbs wont be getting strains.
Thnx for the info
honest sparrow
tap's a girl btw
worldly igloo
Octopi and squids is a pretty good idea on paper but if they are playable how would it work and if they are AI would there be a buff you get from eating them because if they give you the same rewards as eating any other AI creature what would be the point of trying to find it while it is camouflaged and then catch it in the water while it’s shooting ink, or it would be just to damn fast. Like I said I like the idea but the main problem is how would it work?
honest sparrow
considering they are mollusks and of high intelligence, they'd probably give more food
worldly igloo
Seems legit
muted fog
Lol
ebon tiger
to be fair, squid aren't intelligent
octopus are though
also, intelligence won't effect food they'd give. not like there's enough brains in there for a big nutrition boost
naive turret
It’s more of a fun little game you play for a reward, I definitely don’t see them being playable though
Like an easier way to get a new thing rather than needing to properly make it to elder every time
muted fog
How would y'all feel about a flying blood sucking dino?
naive turret
Annoying, but I’m intrigued.
Kinda reminds me of Redbilled Oxpackers.
As in the dinosaur would be annoying
paper oriole
Atopo would basically be water dryo, maybe he can bury himself in the mud to hide too
swift ferry
Atopo is very original and deserve some love
way more than lurdu which is already in BoB and that is not actually proven semi-aquatic
wraith breach
why people dont want terror bird in the isle ?
past berry
deinocheirus would be a very cool addition to the isle @wraith breach
indigo sun
Utah and galli already do what terrorbirds would do
wraith breach
yea plz thumb up
past berry
but not big terrorbirds
wraith breach
so they know we want it :)))
left nacelle
@wraith breach The devs already know we want Deinochierus
past berry
i imagine it would be mostly herbrivore, eating vegetation from muddy swamps it would live in
wraith breach
oh
left nacelle
Also this, bitsy
wraith breach
well i wish there was a vote on deinochrus
left nacelle
Dondi jokingly said that it isn't coming. That doesn't mean it isn't, but if it is, we won't have it anytime soon
past berry
i can help u with explaining why it should be added bitsy
it would have been unique gameplay
wraith breach
okay he said if you post a new dino explain why and whats unique about it
pale sorrel
@wraith breach What is it called?
past berry
deinocheirus
wraith breach
i think most unique thing about it is apex omnivore that we dont have
left nacelle
Okay but that's not unique enough
pale sorrel
Ah right, thanks
past berry
it would live at very muddy swamps, where is not enough water for deino and spino to ambush it
left nacelle
Making an animal costs $7000+. Being an apex omnivore isn't enough
wraith breach
it looks like camel that eat meat
past berry
it would be so big, its strenght or big healt bar would help escape or fight
pale sorrel
Right, so would you be able to just eat bushes and stuff and still survive, or would you need to eat both?
wraith breach
its galli family member
past berry
apex semi-aquatic herbrivore hunting fish
left nacelle
It doesn't really bring anything to the game tho. It's just a big omnivore. That's it
pale sorrel
Right, thanks
past berry
no, its a big omnivore that live at water
wraith breach
is it semi aquatic jhonny?
past berry
almost
left nacelle
Beipi's also an omnivore that lives at water
wraith breach
oh cool like bears
left nacelle
So the water omnivore thing is already taken
past berry
but i imagine it spend most of its time at swamp
left nacelle
And then it would get destroyed by deinos
past berry
Beipi's also an omnivore that lives at water
@left nacelle but its small
it would live at very muddy swamps, where is not enough water for deino and spino to ambush it
@past berry
left nacelle
But there are no swamps like that on that map
wraith breach
its stronger than sucho
left nacelle
That would be a bad idea
Cause then everyone would go to those swamps where it's safe and the deinos would starve
left nacelle
If ya want Cheirus to be added, add a bit more uniqueness to it
past berry
like deinocheirus
left nacelle
I'm not opposed to Cheirus but I don't think that suggestion is detailed enough
left nacelle
More detail. Things that can make it more unique other than it being big
past berry
many creatures are modified
wraith breach
whats unique about spino and sucho?
left nacelle
Spino is a large semi-aquatic that'll run on the bottom of lakes like a hippo but can also compete with other apexes on land
Sucho is a large piscivore that eats fish but doesn't really swim to catch them, like a bear
wraith breach
i have read about life of dienocherus
all i know is that its omnivore and it can live without meat
or without grass
left nacelle
Well obviously it can live without grass. Grass didn't exist near it when it was alive
wraith breach
he doesnt need to wait for herd to come across lakes
past berry
maybe....
wraith breach
what grass didnt exist?
past berry
reduced fall camage thx to the massive body build
wraith breach
left nacelle
Grass didn't exist until right before the dinosaurs went extinct
reduced fall camage thx to the massive body build
@past berry That doesn't make much sense
left nacelle
But if it lives in a swamp it wouldn't need to worry about fall damage anyway
past berry
ik
wraith breach
lets say herb instead of grass
left nacelle
To me, Cheirus just seems like an omnivorous spino/theri. Or a large Beipiao that doesn't swim
wraith breach
it says
pale sorrel
Actually BlueBird, I think grass might've just existed while Deinocheirus was alive... 🤔
wraith breach
that it was stronger than theri
left nacelle
@pale sorrel Yeah, I realized that, which is why I edited it to say it didn't live near grass. Cause grass wasn't all over the planet at that time
past berry
theri had swords instead of claws
wraith breach
lol
past berry
bitsy
wraith breach
blades
indigo sun
How about it's a wading omnivore, who is heavy enough to defend against the apexes of its area and not particularly fast. Its main diet would consist of fish and underwater plants, but it could eat a beipiao or younger deino if it had the chance to catch it.
past berry
left nacelle
And adult deinos could be it's main threat
past berry
How about it's a wading omnivore, who is heavy enough to defend against the apexes of its area and not particularly fast. Its main diet would consist of fish and underwater plants, but it could eat a beipiao or younger deino if it had the chance to catch it.
@indigo sun yes, but i dont think it would eat that big land prey
wraith breach
and @indigo sun yes good idea
left nacelle
You don't think it would eat beipiaos, Johnny? They're like the size of it's hand lol
indigo sun
Neither juvenile deinos or beipiao are really big land prey.
wraith breach
it would just like bears
past berry
i would say hatchlings or compys
left nacelle
Compys would do nothing for it
indigo sun
They both live in the same environment as it, it could totally kill and eat them
left nacelle
They're like microscopic compared to it
past berry
ok, ok
ebon crypt
The only way to make cherry more unique that I can think of is IF shallow swamps and marshes get added, and IF that would be it's natural habitat, then maybe it would could traverse though the mud better? As in other animals could get stuck or would become very slow, but cherry could still walk fast? Or give it the ability to dig for food, but I'm not sure if that's very unique
past berry
i said that
wraith breach
other thing about deinocheirus is that humans in the isle can tame it and feed herb to them xD
like camel
indigo sun
Meh
past berry
nonononon
barren zephyr
Bitsy you have to explain mechanics and abilities apart from why they should add it
indigo sun
Yeah no taming
ebon crypt
But I can't really think of anything else other than it being a bigger, more bulky theri
wraith breach
lol
left nacelle
Enslaving not taming
wraith breach
you cant compare it to theri
barren zephyr
and why deinocheirus? We already have theri
wraith breach
theri cant survive without herb
past berry
But I can't really think of anything else other than it being a bigger, more bulky theri
@ebon crypt more swampy theri
indigo sun
HHH i can get my suggestion for the two I made a while back to explain how deinocheirus is not theri because i hate that argument
wraith breach
survival chances of deinocherius is 100
ebon crypt
Possibly, but I don't know enough about this animal to really contribute to this discusion
past berry
lets remember deinocheirus cannot be unbeatable
wraith breach
how
indigo sun
Suggestions huge nevermind ill just say the basics of it
barren zephyr
dinos are very expensive
wraith breach
and trike a carnivore
barren zephyr
Thats crazy
wraith breach
thats non sense
lilac swallow
Cheirus is less of a theri clone than giga is to Rex, yet we have both
barren zephyr
buuuut
left nacelle
But Cheirus and Theri have similar anatomy
lilac swallow
Also true, cheirus is Closer to galli
barren zephyr
Theres no problem with theri, it wont look dumb being omni
barren zephyr
On the same way as beipi
past berry
so it would be bigger, slower, stronger, swampy galli
wraith breach
fact is fact*
left nacelle
I don't think omni theri's a good idea tho. it would encourage them to hunt stuff
Unless you limit them somehow
wraith breach
it doesnt look slower
past berry
I don't think omni theri's a good idea tho. it would encourage them to hunt stuff
@left nacelle
barren zephyr
You just dont buff too much the speed and problem solved
wraith breach
i want to compare it to a camel
barren zephyr
make omni theri balanced
indigo sun
Therizinosaurus: Herbivore, uses its long claws to eat fruits and high leaves. Lives in the forest. It can run, and its claws do bleed but not a ton of raw damage.
Deinocheirus: Omnivore, wades in swamps and eats the fish and underwater plants. It can hit heavy, and can't run incredibly fast.
It's literally that simple
wraith breach
and it would run faster its galli family so it shud run faster?
indigo sun
Theyre ya go hon
wraith breach
not as fast as galli
lilac swallow
"But the both have feathers long necks and Big arms they are the same"
indigo sun
They can be different animals even if they look kinda similar
left nacelle
Being in the same family doesn't mean they all run fast
indigo sun
But yall always wanna bitch about theri clone
Making theri an omnivore doesnt even feel right
barren zephyr
I really prefer theri to avoid clone dinos
lilac swallow
I dont even like cheirus, but the theri clone argument is yikes
wraith breach
no omni theri its a cute peaceful herbivore bird
lilac swallow
Giga and Rex are literally clones by that logic
indigo sun
Diablo's just a worst triceratops
barren zephyr
thats not
past berry
troodon is just a clone of sucho, utah, dilo
indigo sun
Oro is just smaller dryo
barren zephyr
they have different morphology so different playstyles
past berry
giga is blleding rex
indigo sun
Thats ya logic hon
past berry
dibble is just a faster sub trike
barren zephyr
If you act like that everything is similar
past berry
with no stmp
barren zephyr
Its like:
rhino is big warthhog
Goat is small bull
its dumb to compare like that
They have different playstyles
wraith breach
Name Deinocheirus
Prehistoric Era Late Cretaceous
Classification Omnivore
Order Saurischia
Suborder Theropoda
Weight 7 – 9 tons (6.35 – 8.16 tonnes)
Length 33 feet (10 meters)
Height 12 feet at the hips (3.66 meters)
Maximum Speed 17 mph or faster
Territory Mongolia
do you think there was swamp or water in mongolia at that time
i doupt deino is swampy boi
indigo sun
The animals can behave entirely differently and provide two completely different playstyles but because it looks kinda similar we cant have it cause then it's a clone. The only similar shit is that theyve got feathers, stand upright, have claws (which, mind you, arent even the same length) and long necks. Wow. By that logic all therapods especially the carnivorous ones are all the same shit. Theyre all basic ass bitch dinosaurs but yall still keep addin em in anyways
lilac swallow
Also the fact that cheirus would be a slow juggernaut while theri is a fast glass canon, yeah totally the same
barren zephyr
But why adding deinocheirus if theri is getting rework and can have deinocheirus niche?
lilac swallow
Because theri can have theri niche
indigo sun
If we're so concerned about clones, lets just forget about acro and alberto
lilac swallow
barren zephyr
Its like suggesting yutyrannus, when its just a feathered allo
indigo sun
Lets remove diablo while we're at it
lilac swallow
Its totally not like that
indigo sun
We literally provided two different niches the animals could fill
barren zephyr
And which different mechanics can have that theri cant have?
lilac swallow
If we make theri to behave like cheirus we are losing theri in the proces
indigo sun
Why would you push theri into behaving like something else when it can have an entirely different playstyle
past berry
And which different mechanics can have that theri cant have?
@barren zephyr swamp
barren zephyr
And we have beipi as omnivore therizinosaurid
past berry
but smol
wraith breach
yea stop compareing dinosaurs every dinosaurs is different from other. even terror bird is different.
barren zephyr
Its ridiculous to add deinocheirus
lilac swallow
One fishes is tanky and slow, the other is totally terrestrial not tanky at all and fast
wraith breach
terror bird utah and gallis are different
indigo sun
Like, i feel like i explained that shit pretty well did I not?
Do i need to repost it for you? Is there shit i need to clarify?
barren zephyr
We have beipi at swamp and omnivore and theri on land to eat plants
lilac swallow
This is just another "i dont personally like It so It shouldnt be here"
barren zephyr
cheirus is a waste of sources
indigo sun
Yeah thats literally what this is
indigo sun
From now on imma just say any animal you want is a waste of resources
past berry
cheirus is a waste of sources
@barren zephyr u are a waste of sources
barren zephyr
xD
lilac swallow
But beipi is fucking 90kg while cheirus is 9000kg, a fucking 100x size difference
wraith breach
u r a waste of source lolllll
lilac swallow
Literally totally different
past berry
beipi cannot have the same playstyle
indigo sun
Do you just not want big omnivores?
past berry
i do
indigo sun
You can say you dont want big omnivores
barren zephyr
There are other options for apex omnivores
wraith breach
@barren zephyr why you dont like deino
past berry
but someone dooonttt
lilac swallow
Is like saying we shouldnt have trike because we already have ava and stego
wraith breach
whats wrong with it
indigo sun
Then offer some, hon
wraith breach
i love it
barren zephyr
or directly none apex omnivores
lilac swallow
Its simply stupid
barren zephyr
Thats not dragon
past berry
said someone wih a JP dilo
indigo sun
Cant have kentro now, we've already got stego
barren zephyr
its a drawing of a website dude
indigo sun
Actually lets remove trike and stego altogether so that its fine for kentro and diablo to exist
They were just clones anyway
past berry
oh yes! what a great idea!
lilac swallow
This whole argument is stupid, just for the fact that we already have both Rex and giga