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#general-feedback-discussion
left nacelle
@zenith onyx Why would they need to look different?
left nacelle
Wdym customization? Wouldn't it limit customization if all player velos have feathers?
sudden hinge
Bruh by the time velo is playable customization will most likely be implemented again
So you’ll be able to tell the difference between ai and players pretty easily
zenith onyx
it was just a simple. idea. not. huge. or hard to understand
left nacelle
I don't really see why you'd need to know the difference anyway
zenith onyx
why wouldn't you want other players to recognize you are player?
left nacelle
Because it won't really make a difference
zenith onyx
why would it not?
covert birch
cuz you shouldnt be able to tell the difference between ai and players
left nacelle
New AI will be indistinguishable from players, and that's how it should be
sudden hinge
This is also true because if they think your ai they may spare you or turn there back on you so you can kill some hatchlings
covert birch
just make feathers an option, as they plan to do
zenith onyx
if you look different, then its a bit easier to survive, not scared out of your life because everything can't tell your a player
covert birch
The literal plan is so you dont know its a player or ai
the whole idea is to make ai, be similar to players
zenith onyx
no it shouldn't be the same, it should ahve the the option though to customize
covert birch
Yes, and ai should also have a mix of said customizations
zenith onyx
yeah, feathers could be apart of that
zenith onyx
why not? every other AI, even ava, is getting different skin patterns then the current AI skins.
you'll be able to tell its a player
or Ai
covert birch
What
left nacelle
How do we know it's getting different patterns?
And even then, how would that tell you if it's a player or not?
covert birch
right now, we know nothing of future customization systems outside the feather thing
and that they plan to expand on it
zenith onyx
because only players would have the feathered skin, not ai
left nacelle
I doubt that'll be the case
zenith onyx
what i mean is that only teh velo playalbes can have the feathers, normal ai can't. jsut an idea
brb
covert birch
Well heres the thing
if the idea is they want ai to seem like players
then they prolly would make ai look like em
Which is why the velo ai would spawn with either feathers or no feathers
Be a mix of some kind
left nacelle
A lot of The Isle's population is gonna be AI. If it's obvious that they're AI, that screws up the immersion
zenith onyx
so players, could have feathers so people know they are players, or could go the normal skin and still be in the same danger without the feathers
zenith onyx
not ai. normal ai would just have the scales
covert birch
Why
zenith onyx
who said this!
covert birch
the devs
left nacelle
Or... just let AI have feathers too. Make it a 50/50 chance
covert birch
Like the whole idea is
Ai will be just like players
Idk what your not understanding here
zenith onyx
i do understand, you make it seem like im stupid
covert birch
what
bold mist
huh, this took a turn
covert birch
Im just stating the fact that
Ai will be just like players
So that means velo ai would prolly also have the chance to spawn in with or without feathers
zenith onyx
what im saying is that players can choose to have feathers, or not have feathers.
left nacelle
Correct. And AI will also be able to have Feathers or not
zenith onyx
and look like the normal ai or look a bit different
zenith onyx
if it looks jsut like AI, why play it? change it a bit, so your not completely the same....
left nacelle
But how can you look like AI if not all AI will look the same?
covert birch
Thats the idea tho
the ai is meant to be the same
Your playable can be unique looking
But the ai can also be uniuqe looking
left nacelle
Like if some AI have feathers and some don't, then you won't be able to tell if they're AI or not. Which is the point
zenith onyx
the feathers would just mean you look slightly different then the others.
not completely different, jsut slightly
bold mist
Why would we need to be able to tell players from AI though. I'd probably target the players if that's the case
zenith onyx
why target them though?
covert birch
kai, this is what people do
bold mist
Cause they'd make a more interesting hunt
zenith onyx
god, it's jsut customization, make the player look slightly different then the normal ai! it would be a very small difference, that would be hard to see at first glance
covert birch
Kai, the player can be different from ai even if both have feathers
colors, patterns, etc
bold mist
I mean, the AI and players will have the exact same customization options
just AI randomize
covert birch
the chances of an ai looking exactly like a player will be low
left nacelle
And if you add such a slight difference, what's the point in making them look different
zenith onyx
but custimozation isn't coming for a while after evrima though, so how would they tell?
they wouldn't
left nacelle
AI probably won't be in EVRIMA tho
covert birch
AI isnt looking like its gonna be any time soon
especially since they havent seemed to hire the ai person yet
zenith onyx
. it's just so the player can see a slight change between themselves and the ai, not too easy to spot by bigger dinos.
covert birch
Kai, lets go through this again
Why would they add a difference between players and ai if the whole idea is that you cant tell ai from players
again the ai would have a different appearence to the player even with the whole random chance of feathers and no feathers
B/c other customization differences exist also making the 2 difference such as color, patterns, etc
Basically the chances of a player being similar to ai who would prolly have randomized customization options are so low, youll a vast majority of the time be different looking to ai
bold mist
As other players looking (probability wise) would look like eachother
covert birch
Remember local chat exists if your trying to know if somethings ai or not
And global exists if ya on a non official
left nacelle
Kai, you know AI aren't all gonna be the same color, right?
zenith onyx
if your being chased, you can't write in, "hey in a velo player! don't eat me!"
zenith onyx
ah, so you can't tell the person, oh wait, im a player!
left nacelle
You being a player isn't gonna stop someone from eating you
covert birch
^
bold mist
Me: good, that makes it even better
paper oriole
Could just friendly call while running away too, doubt ai will do that
covert birch
if anything it being a player will make them want to eat ya more
paper oriole
No need for visual difference when there can be behavioral differences
zenith onyx
god i hate it when its a simple idea, just so the player can have some customization fun, not so it jsut stands out like a beaming hot sun.
covert birch
Kai, i too want a customization option
Im just saying ai shouldnt be differentl lookin to players
covert birch
No differences outside of ai behavior
left nacelle
It shouldn't be different at all
zenith onyx
nothing really noticalbe
bold mist
that's already how it's gonna be
covert birch
Literally the only difference is behavior
zenith onyx
which sucks....
covert birch
No it doesnt
zenith onyx
yes
covert birch
b/c again players will be unique due to customization options
and so would ai due to them prolly having randomized customization options
zenith onyx
taht's what i've been saying, feathers apart of that customization
left nacelle
Why do you want AI to be different from players, Kai?
covert birch
Kai, we agreed on feathers as an option
we are just saying, ai should also have feathers
which your suggestion points out it shouldnt so it does make it different to players
bold mist
literally if there's a way to tell AI and players apart visually it would make life harder for players
cuz selective hunting
zenith onyx
look again at the suggestion
zenith onyx
but, not, too spread out like the players.
covert birch
it should be just as spread out
AI should have the exact same variaty of options as players
zenith onyx
that would take alot of prgraming to accomplish
bold mist
what?
zenith onyx
for every ai to have a different skin variation
covert birch
kai, do you have any experience in coding
zenith onyx
yes i do
covert birch
Cuz, having ai have randomized coloration
Not every single one is unique or whatever, there can be duplicates
that is not a hassle programming wise, that i know of
hell you know what
Next time filipe is in general
ill ask him
zenith onyx
ah, so players would still have different skins then the ai, if what you said does happen
but not too different
covert birch
Ai get a random combination of options players also have
left nacelle
They would have the same available colors, but it would be extremely rare for and AI and a player to identical
covert birch
So there is a chance its the same as players
But such a lil one it prolly wont happen
left nacelle
Ai would probably have some gross looking skins too, if they're randomly selected
Unless they code it to correlate the colors somehow
bold mist
Players go for what's pleasing to look at, AI won't care
ashen wasp
telling players from AI is gonna be a cinch-- only players crouch repeatedly in the most aggravating, unnecessary, self-demeaning display of humanity i've ever seen
they will find ANY way to dance. any way. if their character can't crouch, theyll enter and exit the scent animation loop to twerk. or theyll spin around, or jump up and down, or yank their mouse around in order to make their character's head go spinning. people will always be people
left nacelle
@barren zephyr You know this game takes place in modern times, right? The animals in the game aren't even dinosaurs. They're human made animals that are vaguely based on the animals they're named after
zenith onyx
@barren zephyr i think you idea is great
bluebird not everybody needs you commenting on everything
left nacelle
I like to comment on stuff. What's wrong with that?
zenith onyx
it seems every single time someon posts something, seconds after, you are there critizing it, before the person can get a breather
its kinda scary
left nacelle
I just happen to check suggestions a lot. There's nothing wrong with criticism. That's kinda the point of this channel
barren zephyr
Tbh there is nothing wrong with it. Its a discussion channel when you can talk about how you feel. Im always lurking in the channel. But besides that, it is basically already modern times and a story mode wont really be needed.
left nacelle
Plus it would negate the games lore
barren zephyr
Yeah
zenith onyx
why couldn't a story mode be implemented though? possibly in the future
stray plover
It would be nice if the devs added like sleeping animations for all the dinos making it so Stam and healing would be faster
left nacelle
The games story is meant to be told through the world, not a campaign
@stray plover They are adding that
stray plover
Oh they are
left nacelle
Yeah they are lol
stray plover
THATS SICK
zenith onyx
as a side, though just to have it would bring alot of fun, campaign would be awesome for the isle
left nacelle
But anyway, I don't see how a story mode could work in a multiplayer survival game. I could see a story mode working as a separate game, where you play as someone who works for Apollo Engineering or something
stray plover
They adding that to or no
left nacelle
Baby carrying isn't happening
zenith onyx
the story mode wouldn't have to be super long.
stray plover
I hope they do that at some point
barren zephyr
It also basically would allow yourself to afk while your mom/dad moves you around.
left nacelle
Length doesn't really have anything to do with it
zenith onyx
and it would be like alot of the other multiplayer games, which have story mode, just like those
barren zephyr
KAI tbh I think the suggestion is just for a different game. This game is a open world survival. In my opinion it wouldn't work and since already have lore and so on.
stray plover
I hope they do add baby carrying at some point that’s what I meant to say sorry it’s late I might head to bed lol
barren zephyr
I get that other games have it but I dont see it working.
zenith onyx
why would it not work in the isle?
stray plover
Baby carrying?
zenith onyx
you opinion
stray plover
Why wouldn’t that work on the isle?
barren zephyr
Baby carrying 100% can work in the isle but it just could be used as a trolling method.
barren zephyr
Basically you can hatch people in and just kill them a second after, and you can just carry them everywhere when they dont want to go there and throw people off cliffs, etc.
left nacelle
Doesn't this sound 10x more interesting than a story mode?
stray plover
Yeah
barren zephyr
Plus it would just allow you to go afk for a while instead of being aware of your own surroundings while your mom carries you.
stray plover
But it would be nice to have it
left nacelle
Also baby carrying has some programming issues that come with it. Especially for animals like Deinosuchus
stray plover
Also most server would probs have some rule about that when it and if it comes out at some point
bold mist
it would have to be restricted to certain animals
stray plover
Like if ur a full grown giga and have a juvie
Would be nice to carry that
And not wait for it to catch up with you
bold mist
juvie, no baby is fine
left nacelle
Juvys will be made faster and they'll actually be able to keep up with adults in EVRIMA
stray plover
I hope so
stray plover
Can’t wait for the update tho
left nacelle
Yup 16 more days at the least 22 at the most
stray plover
Is there new calls for spoons and rexes or no
left nacelle
And you'll also be able to tap the call buttons to do a quieter roar and hold it to do the current roar
stray plover
I can’t wait to see the new resting for the spoon
left nacelle
Do you watch Ravenous on Youtube at all, Dragon?
left nacelle
Go sub to them, and watch their Phase 2 videos. They collect all the news and put it in videos
stray plover
Ok cool, thanks
left nacelle
Some of the devs are subscribed to him and Paradym even supports his patreon
left nacelle
No prob! 👍
stray plover
Now ima head to bed and maybe watch this guys videos a lil bit it’s really late and I’m tired so night everyone
left nacelle
@barren zephyr Tribals will be able to enslave dinosaurs and possibly ride them. A raptor is probably too small to ride tho
It's not gonna be pleasant tho. Tribals are going to be very abusive to the dinosaurs
turbid glade
@left nacelle so they dont need to get transported anymore
left nacelle
What do you mean?
left nacelle
@wraith breach Nah, mercs will have modern weapons
left nacelle
The Isle will be unique tho. Primal carnage is a completely different type of game
Plus The Isle and Primal carnage are in the same universe iirc
turbid glade
@left nacelle i basicly mean that juvies now are so slow but later their are alot faster
left nacelle
Oooh. I didn't know you were talking about juvies. Yeah, juvies will be faster so they won't have as much trouble keeping up with their parents
turbid glade
it was so a pain as juvie utah....
sand oar
@wraith breach well sandbox is to test things out not really an gamemode with a goal, why you want the dinos to be locked?
harsh silo
@barren zephyr interesting idea, idk how it would be done though. I feel like the fact that u slide if u land sideways works well, maybe if the jump is from greater heights it could work, otherwise it would seem too punishing for the player, idk 
cobalt compass
@open sedge there will be no taming, tribals enslave the dinos, break their will and hurt them when they disobey
no mutual bond
covert birch
Issue with that method of taming is that tribals can easily just mixpack with friends to get war machines
At least in the whole break peoples wills method there is an actual negative to being tamed
open sedge
So how exactly will they do that
covert birch
if your asking how exactly they will make a negative to being tamed, i mean being beaten to almost death is a very large negative imo,
open sedge
No how will they be tamed
cobalt compass
thats a secret yet to discover
turbid glade
@lofty sky titanboa is planned
lofty sky
Great!
turbid glade
but will arrive later next year
covert birch
No how will they be tamed
Well, from how dondi described it, my guess is the dinosauri s being attacked n such
And the tribals instead of killing it can choose to tame it (if the dinosaur wants to be tamed)
Dying state isnt a good idea
Like just cuz someones injured doesnt mean they shouldnt move at all
ripe pewter
I mean if you are at 1% health you probably will be to weak to stand up
covert birch
In a game no
ripe pewter
So you gotta heal
covert birch
let the player decide
A: Do i wanna risk death and move
or B: Do i wanna sit here and heal
ripe pewter
I just want it for realism
covert birch
Realism isnt always good mechanically
This imo is one of them
I can agree maybe a movement debuff or something can work
but no movement at all is bad
left nacelle
@muted fog Already happening
muted fog
bold palm
Realtime Ray Tracing, RTX technology, will this be in the updated version or is it planned for future implementation?
left nacelle
Ray tracing won't be a thing. It's very performance intensive and not worth the effort @bold palm
Would be cool to see, but it just wouldn't work out with The Isle
Here's what Paradym said about it
left nacelle
@sacred pasture Ceratosaurus will be able to eat bone. I know that's not exactly what you meant, but I think that's as close as we're gonna get lol
sacred pasture
Oh cool. I didn’t know that lol
left nacelle
Yeah. In the recode Cerato's gonna be like a hyena. Eating rotten meat and bone
sacred pasture
Wow that’s really cool. So like scavenger type Dino’s
left nacelle
Yeah pretty much. It'll probably be one of the biggest scavengers in the game. It'll still be able to fight bigger animals in a group tho
sacred pasture
I’m guessing they’re going to be able to smell rotten meat as well
left nacelle
I think every animal will probably be able to smell rotten meat
But not all of them will be able to eat it
sacred pasture
Ah alright
left nacelle
And that second suggestion you just posted is also already coming lol
sacred pasture
Lmao I need to get caught up 😂 well good
left nacelle
The ⏲️ reaction means it's already coming btw
left nacelle
Watch Ravenous on Youtube for all The Isle news. He compiles all the stuff together in his Phase 2 videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9QZ7dGjOUmnUEgzxX_bhGw
Even the devs support him lol
sacred pasture
Yeah I watch him all the time. I guess I just look over certain things
left nacelle
Oooh
Yeah there's a lot of Phase 2 videos, makes sense that you wouldn't have seen every single one lol
sacred pasture
A lot better than watching anth for news 🤭
left nacelle
True, he's more of a source for entertainment than he is for news lol
sacred pasture
Yeah that’s true
left nacelle
And I think the Cerato hyena thing is also pretty old news, so it probably isn't in any of the Phase 2 vids
sacred pasture
Yeah there’s just so much going on it’s probably so easy for me to look over that
left nacelle
Yeah. 15-21 more days until it's here tho!
sacred pasture
I know I’m so excited
I can’t wait for ovi too. It looks beautiful
I hope they’re able to steal eggs
left nacelle
Yeah. It's gonna be the first omnivore
Yeah egg stealing will be a thing, but not just for ovi
sacred pasture
Yeah
left nacelle
Most small carnivores will be able to steal eggs
left nacelle
At least it'll make nesting more fun lol
Yeah, it's also pretty small tho
It's smaller than dryo
left nacelle
Yeah, but dryo is like the size of a cow lol
Most of the new animals they're adding are smaller than dryo
sacred pasture
So the Utah will be huge compared to the ovi
left nacelle
Yep
sacred pasture
Damn I thought it was going to be bigger. Oh well it’s still so pretty
left nacelle
Playing as a small animal won't be so bad. Most of the animals they're adding are pretty small, so it'll be more common to see those smaller animals
Plus they're essential for an ecosystem
sacred pasture
Yeah that’s true
left nacelle
Here's the size chart we have right now btw. It's probably not fully accurate tho
left nacelle
Yeah, ovi's like velo sized lol
sacred pasture
Yeah a little bigger so not too bad
left nacelle
Dryo is bigger than it looks, it's almost utah sized
And yeah a lot of people want Deinonychus. I think it would work best as a tree-dwelling gliding animal
sacred pasture
Yess I have always wanted a tree dwelling animal in the game. It would be so cool to see them glide from tree to tree in the forests/jungles
And I’m pretty sure Herrera is going to be a climbing Dino right?
left nacelle
Filipe wants tree dwelling animals too, so I hope we get one some day
Uh we don't know yet
We know tree climbing will most likely be a thing, but we don't know what animal will be doing it
sacred pasture
Yeah I’m sure we will end up with one. I just think it would be so cool to see and play as
left nacelle
Yeah same
sacred pasture
Oh also do you know what the sexual dimorphism will look like for Utah
left nacelle
Nah we don't know that yet. All we know is Female Para has a more rounded crest, and Female Ptera's crest isn't as pointy, and we also heard that Female Stego will have rounder plates but I think that's being changed. Not sure
Utah might not even have any sexual dimorphism, cause not all birds irl have sexual dimorphism
indigo sun
I think the male's supposed to have the round plates, bryan said somethin about getting it backwards
left nacelle
Ooooh that's what I heard. I got it mixed up lol
Yeah, I remember hearing that but I guess I somehow got that screwed up in my head lol
indigo sun
Yeah he posted the round plated stego saying it was female but later on said he got it mixed up so its understandable to get it screwed up
left nacelle
And we don't know about the sexual dimorphism of any other animals, right?
I wanna make sure I didn't get anything else screwed up lol
indigo sun
Dont think we know any others, no
covert birch
They said not all animals will be getting dimorphism
Nor have they said any others
left nacelle
Oh they did say not all of them will? Cool. I was hoping that'd be the case
I can't really think of anything you could do to Utah anyway
naive turret
I would like to add on to the bone gnawing, something I would be happy to see in the future is bone breaking for stronger dinosaurs, so they can eat the marrow like Tasmanian devils
left nacelle
Well Ceratosaurus will eat bone
left nacelle
@covert thicket Already happening
covert thicket
Huh..? when? O.O
covert birch
Filipe mentioned being able to eat bugs n such
left nacelle
☝️
covert thicket
oh well.. i will delete my suggestion then.. =w=``
paper oriole
upvoting your own suggestion 
left nacelle
untold wharf
That was me!!! You guys are no fun!
covert thicket
atleast.. mating call would be alot of fun.. Imagine mate calling a rex as a dryo xD
covert birch
Mating calls are somewhat pointless with 2 calls and the new emote system coming
untold wharf
I know, I know, I’ve already had that conversation 1000 times.
left nacelle
Broadcasts could also be considered mating calls
covert birch
Ya can just two call and do the nuzzle shit dondi mentioned
untold wharf
Iiii kknnnoooowwwwwwwwwww.
honest sparrow
Bluedragonny has come to destroy your suggestion, enjoy it while you can
mellow seal
imagine pressing 5 for a mating call to a rex as a tiny troodon
untold wharf
Blue and the person with the bird photo never leave this forum
mellow seal
blue and blue
untold wharf
Rexadoron!
covert birch
venomous rex
covert thicket
A venom rex
left nacelle
untold wharf
At that point the world ends.
mellow seal
venomous birds
covert birch
Venom rex
Literally satan
untold wharf
Everyone run and hide!
covert thicket
The Hellosaurus rex
honest sparrow
Tfw you can’t remember bluebird smh
mellow seal
covert birch
I mean, bryan said he could morph any dino into another dino iirc
So a troo-rex i guess is possible?
untold wharf
BUT WHY can’t I be given my mating call?! It’s like I want to order a cheese burger, but people are saying but we already have veggie and regular burgers so why do you need one with cheese? Because I want a CHEESE MATING CALL BURGER.
covert thicket
Utah raptor + rex = indominus at dock
left nacelle
honest sparrow
Because it serves no purpose whatsoever
left nacelle
Not venomous, but close enough
untold wharf
Well that’s boring.
mellow seal
i cant
untold wharf
I like immersion.
covert birch
i mean, ya may get some fancy noises among ya emotes
untold wharf
Immerse me in cheese.
mellow seal
gladly
covert birch
Immerse me in cheese.
untold wharf
Even if they did a (long/short) call for the friendly call. Like they do for broadcasts. But for MATI- you actually ....
mellow seal
have u ever seen the pic of the lady wearing cheese slices
untold wharf
You actually. Just. Wow.
mellow seal
like naked underneath
covert birch
i just did cliff
covert thicket
🧀
untold wharf
Someone hold me.
covert birch
i wish i hadnt
untold wharf
Please don’t slap cheese squares on the faces of your Utah babies.
Finally someone POSITIVELY liked my crap.
covert birch
i dont see them ever making us collect materials to actually make a nest
but would be cool if ya can do that to repair it or fortify it
untold wharf
Interesting juggle on it ^
wraith breach
@sand oar well most people wont like it. but like if you unlock dino in survival you can play it in sandbox. but idk dondi will do what he thinks is right
covert birch
you shouldnt block people of from playing what they want
Just make larger stuff harder to play so less people can play it effectively
and die while growing
left nacelle
Wouldn't that completely defeat the point of sandbox?
honest sparrow
Pretty sure sandbox is staying the same
covert birch
Imo the only people who should see where ya nest is would be the parents and the kids
anyone else would have to actively search for it
untold wharf
What’s your reasoning.
I knew it was you. LOL
That’s my point
The family itself.
covert birch
well anyone in the party can mean another rando trike who was inv
untold wharf
What other party- oh come on.
mellow seal
keep thinking of suggestions vanteese because we must figure out what is good favorable :)
left nacelle
When you say the whole party, it makes it sound like you mean the entire group
covert birch
I mean, i just dont think
X trike who was invited that aint related whatsoever should know where the nest it
When you say the whole party, it makes it sound like you mean the entire group
^
untold wharf
okay so let me change my semantics.
covert birch
My main issue with posto is that its A: Not large enough to properly fight anything that can kill it
B: Nor would it be able to really escape from those things well
left nacelle
Plus they didn't really give much detail
paper oriole
virgin postosuchus vs chad prestosuchus
covert birch
yea rpesto does land croc much better
since its large enough to fight stuff which does outrun it
And can gallop tf out tiger style
other cool land crocs can be desmato as an aquatic herbi with armor (ofc if minmi doesnt go that route) and omni armadillosuchus as basically a honey badger
barren zephyr
Lmao is posto really a shit idea
covert birch
posto has similar isues to many small land crocodilians
barren zephyr
Posted it a while ago and got tons of reactions but I believe due to recent additions it doesn't match up
paper oriole
presto can bone break small tiers and be a good ambush hunter
covert birch
what was the name of ya other account proto
barren zephyr
Yes but
covert birch
so i can see the first suggestion
barren zephyr
Search up postosuchus it's by moses a.
covert birch
nvm it was exactly the same as the one ya just posted
barren zephyr
Yeah
covert birch
but yea, it like many other small alnd crocs dont really work ingame
barren zephyr
It would really be just shit megalania
covert birch
yea
barren zephyr
More or less
covert birch
Like as i said before
Presto can work really well
Desmato too if minmi doesnt go aqua mode
And armadillosuchus is prolly the best small land croc especially with that armor and the capability to burrow
and the fact its an omni
covert birch
Minmi sized honeybadger-esque omni land croc who can burrow and is tanky as hell cuz armor
barren zephyr
Have the devs ever actually considered a fan suggesting though lol
paper oriole
deinocheirus is good tho
covert birch
nah
barren zephyr
Its basically the megalania-posto thing, it's a shit version of a pre existing dino unless they change it drastically
covert birch
what
How is cherry anything like that?
especially since its an omni, which we have almost none
and semi aquatic
barren zephyr
Wait I got them confused with something else lmao
covert birch
Now i dont like the animal
But if the omni diet systems arent shit then it can work
barren zephyr
Thought it was apart of therozinosauria I thought it had claws
I get them confused lol
covert thicket
Did the devs gonna make the Hypsilophodon able to climb in trees and able to make their home in a tree hole like squirrel do?
covert birch
No
covert birch
Slaps too
covert thicket
sad.. That could be cool
covert birch
Cherry is basically if spino went omni and got a duck fursuit
And has more hooked claws
mellow seal
slap it with its epic eyebrows
covert birch
so higher bleed
honest sparrow
Yeah it’s Omni spino
barren zephyr
In one of the many suggestions of "its x dino but its ___" I feel like that one would work
Wait did cherry have pisciviourous tendencies
did it eat fish
paper oriole
ya he a big ass murder pelican
barren zephyr
Oh
covert birch
Literally an omni spino
barren zephyr
Would be fun
covert birch
its got the tall back and everything
covert thicket
Camel x Duck x Lizard
covert thicket
the babies are cute tbh
covert birch
good spino food
covert birch
I love it
barren zephyr
It looks like 2014 godzilla
covert birch
Looks more like 1990s spino
barren zephyr
I believe the one we have now is better but I dont think it's great
covert birch
One we got now is pretty shitty looking imo
And irl spino wouldnt even work ingame
So lets not go there
honest sparrow
Except it for waht it is: a monster
barren zephyr
Yeah obviously they gotta have JP3 spino for gameplay sake
but I dont like the Godzilla spino
barren zephyr
Dude that spino
I'm in love with it man
we could have had it...
That's the best JP3 spino rendition I've seen
honest sparrow
I wish they made it like that
digital bone
I suggested this before so I wanted to finally elaborate, your post motivated me
untold wharf
Muchas gracias very exciting
junior crow
poggers
covert birch
I prefer the 2nd version
junior crow
for the spino head?
covert birch
BOth the spino head and the nesting suggestion
junior crow
ah gotcha
barren zephyr
eh now looking at it the new spino model ain't so bad
fits in well with the art style
honest sparrow
You gotta wonder tho, what could’ve been 
barren zephyr
But I feel like the older concept is much better
Puzzled as to why they didnt go through with it
covert thicket
anything would look better then the actual spino model.. the actual look like a potato chips, it have no form.. and it have a pelican mouth xD
covert birch
what
barren zephyr
uh lol
honest sparrow
They should have gone with 1950’s spino, duh
junior crow
maybe we'll get something similar to what Primal Carnage is doing with the mutation thingy and make so steam community members can edit models and have players run around with them?
barren zephyr
no....
covert birch
Mods
honest sparrow
Very much mods
barren zephyr
Yeah that's called mods lol
barren zephyr
If players could edit their dinosaur model, we would be seeing penisaurus
junior crow
i hope that official servers allow visual mods but only for the users using those mods so it doesn't disturb gameplay?
covert birch
That prolly wont happen
mellow seal
smart
barren zephyr
still no
covert thicket
Until they dont make us pay for FanMade skins like in primal carnage.. im ok with that idea..
honest sparrow
Modded servers are the best option imo
junior crow
yeah I guess
mellow seal
i think stuff that would work on just one users end and not all would be kinda cool and then people can compare their mods to each other and see if theres some better ones
covert birch
heres a great example of mods of that manner being bad
Someone made an item you can collect modwise use the model of the biggest enemy in game during the time, so they can easily see that collectable and others couldnt
Someone would just do this iwth dino models so they can see them much better
covert thicket
imagine with the mercs.. We will have mod that make us become a Loli anime girl in The isle xD
barren zephyr
Yeah
junior crow
fair point blue
barren zephyr
anime girls in the isle....
covert thicket
Cheez yeah horror
junior crow
I guess modded servers are just the way to go
barren zephyr
Isle mods arent something I would care about
junior crow
I just hope that if I have mods downloaded I don't have to uninstall them to join the official servers
why not?
barren zephyr
Unless people would make decent creature additions in mods I wouldn't care
Custom maps would be cool
covert birch
ide love creature mods\
honest sparrow
Creature mods seem epic
covert birch
as long as it dont turn out wolf mod 2.0 idrc
barren zephyr
Yeah lmao theres gonna be furry mods I bet
honest sparrow
Or that other one
junior crow
what do you mean by creature mods? Like adding other prehistoric animals like mammoths?
covert birch
yes
barren zephyr
I mean adding playables
man if someone made a cenozoic creatures mod I would be bouncing off the walls
honest sparrow
You all know for a fact, that if a good iggy mod comes out, I will exclusively play that server
junior crow
peeps are gonna monetize the fuck out of being able to play the actual creatures on some servers
barren zephyr
they already do that
honest sparrow
Fuck that
junior crow
I know
barren zephyr
I hope they do away with grows and injections
covert birch
Growing n such will prolly exist tho
Same with sandbox animals
barren zephyr
They could just put in the terms of service you cant do that
covert birch
But blocking playables behind a paywall no
barren zephyr
and they could shut down servers
covert birch
Let those servers scummy behavior be their downfall
barren zephyr
Isla nublar servers make more money than the isle by sitting on their ass all day
covert birch
honest sparrow
Nycta shut down violently
barren zephyr
I'm not joking
covert birch
Para said that on the topic
barren zephyr
So does that mean grow and injections
covert birch
grows n such yes
But actually playing the animals no
So like
You cant say "you can only play rex if you pay 20 bucks"
But you can say "you can grow a rex for 20 bucks or grow it regularly for free"
honest sparrow
Yes
barren zephyr
I still go on private servers because voice chat
covert thicket
eh.. why people are paying to become a adult rex when you can spawn adult in all Sandbox server? xD
barren zephyr
Because it's more fun imo
honest sparrow
Because people like survival
barren zephyr
that's like saying why do people play minecraft survival when they can play creative
covert thicket
well the only things cool in survival.. is to growth no? what's the point to dont grow? XD
they are paying to be full adult
indigo sun
People like playing in survival but dont want to put the time or effort in to be the biggest strongest animals. They just wanna kill other dinos
honest sparrow
In the current game I prefer sandbox, but only because I don’t want to trouble myself with learning how to survive when the recode comes out in 2 weeks
covert thicket
aaah ok.. they just want to ruin other people funs!
barren zephyr
I only play survival
covert thicket
and they pay for it xD
barren zephyr
Private servers try to prevent dinos killing everyone but if you're in a pack you can just devour bodies and move on to the next you dont really have to wait for body to go away
covert thicket
for my part i play both: Survival when i want challenge and grow, Sandbox when i just want to chill
barren zephyr
if I want to chill I won't play the isle lol
covert thicket
oof.. XD
hollow mirage
@barren zephyr Maybe something that jumps on something the wrong way can sprain it's ankle instead of breaking it. If you see a cat jump on something the wrong way you might see their legs scatter back to stick the landing and may have a scrape or a bruise but not a broken limb. Anyways, jumping on something the wrong way seems a little extreme because if you fall off of something too high for your dino you already break your leg. Nice idea tho ^^
barren zephyr
I dont think being able to jump the wrong way should be a game thing anyways. There are just some things players shouldnt go through in my opinion. Plus if you take to much of a large fall im sure there will be bone break for that again and not only that if you miss your pounce theres like a second- second and a half delay for that.
paper oriole
Carno is already getting a drift
left nacelle
As are most creatures in the game
paper oriole
Yea i'd assume carno will have a major drift tho lol
left nacelle
Yeahhh lol
honest sparrow
WHEAT
mellow maple
ebon tiger
@mellow maple small tweak; Onchopristis isn't a sawfish/sawshark, it seems.
it's a "sawskate", a type of ray that developed a similar nose to sawfish, but were also covered in hooked spines on their bodies, like modern Thornback Rays
there's no sawskates left alive though. they're all extinct
random imp
but Oncho is a prehistoric fish, it does not fit in the game. devs saiddthat the only things that are prehstoric related are the dinos and the flying/water reptiles, with Megalania and Titanoboa following, iirc.
timid crow
Maybe just skates then in the ocean, I reckon that’d also work.
Or maybe in the ocean there’s bull sharks that could snap up juvenile animals, discouraging you from going in the ocean early game.
Ofcourse not just specifically bull shark, any shark of a similar size would work also
paper oriole
Theres modern saw sharks and chinese paddlefish that look close enough
Shame these guys recently went extinct, but reached a good size over 20 feet and would be cool in the isle
ebon tiger
yes there's sawfish and sawsharks, but Onchopristis is neither
it's a sawskate, an entirely extinct group of fish
cobalt compass
@timid crow paradymshift said that first person for mercs is the core element of their horrorexpierence, so yes mercs will be always in 1st person
ebon tiger
i was just pointing it out to Wheat, and also bringing up another feature it likely had, that being hooked spines for defense
still temple
valid zephyr
waiting for maple box to finish their suggestion so i can upvote
pro tip: write all your suggestion in one go and post it as a single post.
bumping trees is interesting, but don't think it's really possible to make rocks shake like that.
vestal hound
added pro tip, have your own discord server to format your stuff when you intent to post a wall of text
agree on the bumping trees, but rocks should stay solid, climbers should have a way of safety
potent sparrow
I separated them into different topics in case people wanted to vote them separately
Cus they're technically not 100% the same
If that makes sense~
valid zephyr
ah understandable. i try to have them all ready to be copied and pasted in when i do that, as otherwise someone slips a suggestion in between the two parts
potent sparrow
I did for the tree one. The rock one I came up with after I said anything.
Also, they have spam turned off on that channel so I have to wait xD
indigo sun
@oblique summit i believe Don said no to permanent scars because it could cause issues with servers
oblique summit
:(
indigo sun
@empty dove they wont be doing first person for dinosaurs.
empty dove
dang, ok
wraith breach
@oblique summit i think that way everyone will know your achievements and people wont mess with you because they think you have many scars so you are unbeatable 🙂
so yea if no one comes near you that means you are gonna starve
but i do think scar would be on alpha of the team so everyone can recognize him without him telling you in chat or something (only if there is alpha gameplay in recode
oblique summit
well, lions have scars and it doesn't starve them!😅 The scar would be something more aesthetic and would remind the player of everything he has been through with that dinosaur and may end up clinging to him😙
frosty igloo
I think scars would be nice
and honestly who comes up to a apex scars or no scars
maybe make getting a scar hard
random imp
scars 'd be awesome, but it 'd couse problems with servers. loading tousands of people with different scars each one different from the other everytime that someone log in/log out is gonna be havy on the processor
slate marlin
are y'all talking about cosmetic scars or scars you get during battle? Cause the second sounds more reasonable to me
covert birch
Permanent scars gotten from battle
oblique summit
well, it would be something like the customization of skins, everyone has different but does not harm the server
empty dove
well, lions have scars and it doesn't starve them!
@oblique summit that's cuz usually animals don't think the same as humans, a human will be like "ope, it's got scars, it's survived a lot of fights, probably a good player don't wanna mess with it" an animal (maybe idk exactly so just guessing haha) would think "oh, it looks wounded, easy food"
paper oriole
They should make it so if you bite into a bloated body it explodes all over you like that one vid with the leopard getting sprayed by a dead zebra
paper oriole
Idk if i can post it here
keen trail
Probably not
paper oriole
It is pretty gross after all
But tenta's suggestion made me think of it and now i want it in isle
paper oriole
Idk if a human has the strength to muscle off a 1ton raptor that just pounced on them man
loud vine
Well that's not exactly my point, the weight isn't what I was getting at, since a raptor wouldn't press all its weight on you.
It would need to support itself from falling while trying to kill you.
paper oriole
In the initial pounce/pin you will be getting slammed to the ground by a ton of force
You could probably try fending off the much lighter built austroraptor but idk about a utah
loud vine
True, but that wouldn't instantly kill someone who's armored, maybe stun them for a few seconds.
Irl that'd kill them, this is a game.
paper oriole
In that few seconds a utah focused on making a kill would stick his claw in your neck or head or try to gut you open.
strange wave
Kevlar wouldn't really help against a large raptor pinning you to the floor
paper oriole
In the initial pin you'd probably already suffer internal damage
strange wave
loud vine
Well, I was going based off far cry primal how you can fight off a damn bear in scraps of leather, also, this game isn't pre realism, since dondi has strands in it, for example, hypos
strange wave
but paradyms point still stands
loud vine
But ya know, whatever, let's not have a tiny bit of fun.
strange wave
a plate carrier isnt going to help against a raptor ripping your throat out
paper oriole
Just from the sheer force of being slammed to the ground by a 1 ton predator, your ribs or spine could be damaged, or more depending on the surface you are slammed against. Mercs should be delicate af, glass cannons
loud vine
So if mercs are gonna be glass cannons, would that make tribals tanky asses then? that what im hearing here
strange wave
no?
strange wave
against a bullet to the head a tribal is still dead as a door nob
loud vine
true
left nacelle
Tribals will be like 9 feet tall. So I could see them being able to take a utah
loud vine
but can probably manhandle a utah
strange wave
but i can see a tribal lifting a utah up by the head and tossing it to the side
left nacelle
But at the same time, i can see tribals also being glass cannons like mercs, except they're more in-tune with their environment
loud vine
I hope that's an animation, I wanna see a merc get bitchslapped by a utah that was thrown
That would make my day
paper oriole
Tribals using small tiers as blunt weapons, taking merc guns and using them as blunt weapons, picking up a merc and using him as a blunt weapon while hes still alive lol
loud vine
that'd be funny as hell
paper oriole
Hulk v loki style
valid zephyr
need a metal collar to stop dino bites.
left nacelle
Tribals sending in squads of troodons to loot mercs bases. Then there's that one troodon who doesn't wanna obey so it gets beat to death
loud vine
i can imagine a tribal using two troodons nunchuck style
left nacelle
That just seems inefficient lol
loud vine
itd be funny
paper oriole
Tribals and small tiers breaking into merc vehicles and driving them out of control, crashing into trees or driving into a lake as they scream in panic
left nacelle
True, but I don't think that'd be the play lol
loud vine
the troodons can bite as theyre flung around
valid zephyr
i hope tribal bows are like 2.5m long
want arrows which punch through both sides of a humvee
loud vine
if troodons are venomous, the could put the venom on tribal arrows
left nacelle
Troodons are venomous
loud vine
thatd just be the dirtiest trick if it hits through the humans arm and itll just be a massive venom shock
paper oriole
Using different poisons/venoms to inflict different wacky shit with their arrows
loud vine
im gonna be that troodon that just runs up to an adult rex on purpose and eats their ankle
just be a troodon venomous piercing
paper oriole
lol just be an awful inconvenience to any rex you see
loud vine
yep
paper oriole
Hope tribals can jut a spear up at a charging rex and stab them in the roof of their mouth so when they try closing it they get fucked over with the spear
loud vine
that sounds painful
paper oriole
Exactly lol
loud vine
ive decided my troodon ill play will be a pain to any large dino except deino
so a trike will get ankle bitten, rexes, ceratos
etc
paper oriole
Ceratos may be getting downsized to utah length
paper oriole
Troodon can kill them lol, will have to draw out the suffering
loud vine
I see you have a perfect life, allow me to ruin that
if pachy is beefed up too, ill be one angry pachy
cause rn its easy to kill them and uts sad
its*
indigo sun
@barren zephyr planned
barren zephyr
Oh really?
indigo sun
Yeah
barren zephyr
Thats cool
turbid glade
feathered utah lets go :D
strange wave
@barren zephyr gender differences that aren't cosmetic are a no go
indigo sun
Sex should have no bearing on stats in this game. It would lead to an incredibly uneven sex ratio given how pvp-oriented players tend to be, and they would mainly play the stronger sex
left nacelle
@green gorge Everything in the current game is irrelevant. The recode is a whole new game
languid arrow
@green gorge the current falling mechanics are litterally broken to the extent of existential crisis. This will most likely be fixed in EVRIMA so just wait for that to pop.
green gorge
I hope so
thorny lynx
feral wedge
Why worry about feathered Rex when scaled both looks better and actually existed, tho.
indigo sun
How bout no feathers on rex, yeah
covert birch
Imo a remastered TSL rex way down the line as a feathered option or as some kinda reward for a difficult achivement can work pretty well
frank rampart
l just want oceanic servers lol
feral wedge
Waste of time imo. Something cool, instead, maybe. Rare skin options or a small additive detail or some such. Maybe variant skull shapes for some of that intraspecific variation.
frank rampart
talking about sub species dinosaurs when you dont even know the current stats of base animals is really strange dont you think?
and modding will exist for you...scalies
indigo sun
oceanic servers are a good idea, meteor. doesnt help me specifically but it would be nice to give people in australia servers that would have fewer issues connection-wise than using european or us servers
covert birch
talking about sub species dinosaurs when you dont even know the current stats of base animals is really strange dont you think?
how does an animals stats correlate to more cosmetic options which wouldnt affect stats
frank rampart
our private servers are always full too
we got 5
always high numbers. it'd be nice to get an official.
@covert birch because time allocation? l'd rather they finish the game and its gameplay before additional stuff like cosmetics?
covert birch
Good thing i said
"way down the line"
frank rampart
imagine they listened and put that in motion. the game would never be finished
missed that
covert birch
Plus the devs also shown interest in cosmetics stuff for the future
frank rampart
just so many suggestions saying they want this and that dino
feral wedge
Hopefully an Oceanic server comes up when Evrima hits.
I have no knowledge of such things, though.
frank rampart
they've never spoken about it
covert birch
Iirc Paradym said they gotta new thing that lets em spring up more officials
So possible more will come
mighty girder
Dilo isnt getting a neck frill and it shouldnt either
covert birch
@real frost dilo strains will be getting neck frill
The base one will not
tame hawk
@real frost While i do love the frill idea, with the coming updates they plan on being more paleontologically correct. And dilos did not have those frills irl
mighty girder
will possibly be getting a frill*
tame hawk
Dilo strains with frills i am ALL for however
real frost
Some scientists are still doubt about that
covert birch
They didnt prove anything, if there never was evidence for it
The whole frill thing was to make dilo more stylized, similar to what they did to the raptors in JP
real frost
Well then you cant say they had no neck frill either
covert birch
I mean, ide rather say there wasnt since there is no evidence for it among any dinosaur,
tame hawk
Frilled lizards irl have small cartilage and bone to help support their frills. Dilos have no evidence of this. So, while it may not be impossible, it was not likely dilos had frills
covert birch
Plus, again
dondi said they have something similar to tapwings tisso dilo art
which as cobra-esque frills
real frost
Mhmm
covert birch
real frost
That’s a hypo
covert birch
thats a tisso
tame hawk
^
covert birch
This is a hyper
tame hawk
Tissos (in the art at least) have alot of spikes like that. Hypers have alot of armor and are more tanky
real frost
Ok then
covert birch
I feel like masiaka would just be a worse austro
left nacelle
It's more likely that dilo didn't have frills. We wouldn't know cause they're just skin flaps, so they don't fossilize. But it's better to assume they didn't have them since there's no evidence for it
tame hawk
You know bluedragonny, I didn't even think of austro when making that post 🤣
covert birch
lol
left nacelle
The game takes creative liberties, but adding a frill to Dilo is just ripping off JP
tame hawk
fair point haha
real frost
I’m with both agree since their is still no prove from both sides
tame hawk
True, I mean we don't know, maybe trex had frills! lol
It is fun to think about for sure
real frost
Or maybe only males had neck frills...
left nacelle
Personally, I think a frill would fit on Troodon better. Not saying it should get a frill, but I feel like Troodon would be better suited for it since it's a smaller animal
Frills are usually used for intimidation, so it would make more sense for the smaller animal to have it imo
tame hawk
If you think about it, if turkeys and chickens were fossilized, we probably wouldnt even know about their warbles (is that what they're called?)
left nacelle
waddles*
real frost
Well dilos are also small against apexes
left nacelle
But when dilo lived, it was an apex predator iirc
left nacelle
It lived in the Early Jurassic. In the Triassic before that, everything was small so dilo was pretty big for its time iirc
real frost
Yep
paper oriole
I really want masiakasaurus to be like a jesus lizard in the isle. Glad to see another person who wants masiak
(My shitty suggestion for it lol)
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/685031427766485048
tame hawk
@paper oriole That would be a cool and interesting feature! I wouldn't mind running across water for a bit 😆
Imagine they made a sauropod have that ability 🤣
sacred pasture
Ok so will more combat details be added in the recode (like for example: biting a Dino’s neck and latching on causing it to die faster or cause more damage and Dino’s biting a certain spot and it will show teeth marks/ claw marks/ blood etc...)
sacred pasture
Alrighty
austere spruce
good ol vertigo 🙂
paper oriole
Idk why people reacted austro on the masiaka suggestion, masiaka is velo sized, austro is bigger than a human. They'd obviously occupy different tiers
left nacelle
@mellow seal We're getting caves. We'll even have caves as early as EVRIMA
tepid gate
I on the other hand don't get why people react with thumbs down and dondisquints to a very sensible suggestion of allowing people to see from a first person perspective so that the whole body of your dinosaur doesn't block your field of vision when you're moving through dense foliage trying to get closer to your target. It's really not a hard concept to grasp - predators have the eyes on their heads and not their ass for a reason and when you're stalking something you want to have your camera go first before the entirety of your dinosaur gets to be seen which is currently the case forcing people to do camera gymnastics rather then pressing one button. Note that we don't need a dedicated first person perspective - being able to keep it in third person view however having the camera on top of the head would be just fine too. This however needs a fix and it's just flabbergasting why the community has a problem with this.
barren zephyr
Why do people dislike the idea of carrying babys in mouth as deino
Would be so cool
tepid gate
Could be used to grief others potentially, I'd imagine is the main reason
barren zephyr
Wouldn't that backfire because they wasted time making an egg
BoB has it, and no one griefs
left nacelle
@barren zephyr People dislike it cause the devs shot it down multiple times already cause it has programming issues that come with it. Not to mention leg and stuff on servers
And BoB's community is different than The Isle's
So people absolutely would abuse it
And it's been suggested many, many times before
And (I know I'm saying a lot here lol) it's unnecessary. Juvies in EVRIMA will be able to keep up with adults much easier than they can in the current game
barren zephyr
ok but it would be a cool addition
not everything they are adding is as necessary as you are suggesting
and couldnt they just add an option where you could leave the mouth
left nacelle
Well yeah, but players abusing it isn't the only issue. It could also be used to afk
barren zephyr
it would be no different from afking any other way if people use it as such
frosty igloo
whatabout baby carrying only in the hatchling stage
and carrying a baby increases stamina drain
and maybe a parent with a baby in its mouth 24/7 will loose confort levels
meaning that after about 15 it just goes
Phew and spits it out
barren zephyr
Is there even comfort in the isle
barren zephyr
Is it gonna be like BoB cause that would be cool
frosty igloo
you have to preform certain actions for example mudbathe or eat certain things
it also ties into stress
meaning that if a herbivore is teaming up with carnivores it will feel stressed around them ans get a debuff
barren zephyr
Debuff in what
frosty igloo
and doing things that will make your dino happy like eating its prefferd prey and not sitting in your bum AFK growing you will be stronger
its not clear
turbid glade
@frosty igloo they dont want to do taht because it takes away the control of other players
turbid glade
baby transport
left nacelle
Carrying a hatchling wouldn't make any sense since they're supposed to stay at the nest. The only time I could think of you needing to carry them is if there's danger. But imo, hatchlings should stay at the nest at all times until they grow
turbid glade
pilipe say its possible to do the transport thing but it can be used to troll players
left nacelle
Yeah Filipe said he might try to program that if he has free time. Which he hasn't had yet
narrow whale
fair enough.
left nacelle
Also, don't upvote your own suggestions
turbid glade
narrow whale
no its just so people can upvote
left nacelle
People can upvote perfectly fine without you upvoting first lol
It's just kinda misleading, and it makes you look less... credible? I guess?
pale sorrel
@narrow whale It sounds like it mightbe a good idea, but it could get very annoying for the player playing the hatchling/juvi, if the mother's player keeps picking it up against the other's will, don't you think?
narrow whale
yeah they should add like cool down or something
left nacelle
And if they're in the mother's mouth, the mother wouldn't be able to attack quickly if she needs to. She'd need to drop all her babies first
turbid glade
yes and you can drag food to them so they dont need to move
narrow whale
I mean server rules exist as well dont forget
left nacelle
And dondi wants the game to be able to function without rules at all, which isn't really possible right now
Hence why official servers have a couple of rules
narrow whale
I mean some rules are nice. Like not allowed to kill someone if they just got in the game
frosty igloo
If baby carrying is a thing without a cool down it would not work
turbid glade
if the baby dont want to get carried it should get a botton to jump out of the mouth
and a cd that it cant get picked up for a while
frosty igloo
maybe having a baby in your mouth 24/7 would make you unhappy and your dinosaur woul get a warning that your unhappy and if the player ignores it the baby will be dropped
also with prefferd prey being a thing carrying babies 24/7 would mean your doing more harm than good
cobalt compass
why do ppl dont read the #general-feedback? the Nvidia Now thing was serveal times suggested in a few days...
indigo sun
The suggestions are short and easy to miss among longer suggestions accompanied by pictures and people don't scroll through a few days of messages, they generally just suggest something and leave it at that.
Makes sense it's been suggested so much, it's an issue people want resolved and theyre not going to make sure someone else didn't suggest it before they post their own
green cave
This is sort of a small suggestion but i personally love little details that give the Dino’s more personality I guess. Maybe carnivores could have an animation after they eat like licking some blood off of their snout or just licking their chops.
@sacred pasture Dinosaurs Cant lick or get out of the mouths their Tongues, Its like see a Bird licking his Beack, They can because Their Tongue is Short and usually on Dinosaurs and Alligators Tongue it stick whit the bottom of their Mouth
sacred pasture
Ohhhh okay I didn’t think about that thanks!
green cave
Just some dinosaurs can or like geckos that need to have their eyes hidrated so they lick them
sacred pasture
Well maybe it just depends on the animals that are being added in the future
green cave
Yea
sacred pasture
Because if they add a large lizard type animal that could probably work
green cave
megalania should probably do that When its Added
sacred pasture
Yes
valid zephyr
@lusty stratus honestly I agree. with the tiny player counts and massive maps, finding other dinos will be near impossible, especially if you're an unpopular species.
I think grouping with, nesting with, and raising AI dinos of the same species is essential
lusty stratus
@valid zephyr Exactly! It would give players an extra layer of something fun to do for extended periods of time. I would think it would help lend to immersion as well. I'd be a lot more interested in nesting Ai minions than real players who log/die anyway. But this would be a godsend to servers with smaller player counts, for sure.
barren zephyr
@lusty stratus I like the first idea/ you can have AI offspring. That way eggs you make dont go to waste if no one wants to spawn in as that dinosaur you are nesting as. However the second part, making it your respawn just seems a bit unfair. Like just because you raised children doesnt mean you should get a grow buff on it. There will be new things added to help growing (the affinity system) it can just seem bit unfair so nesting could be a must. Not only that if you keep the AI around you can constantly go back (as decent sized juvie..) and attack the dinosaur tills its dead (revenge killing) if it is a small enough one since there seems to be alot of small carnivores coming to evrima.
oh wait i saw the last part for balancing.... i didnt see it, but growing to just sub stage would just stop the point the endless growth you know?
valid zephyr
I'd always prefer to nest real players, but if you're an unpopular dino the chances are you will be able to go months without meeting another.
shell roost
If you die and still have a surviving offspring, you can just take control of the eldest one.. and "skip" some of its growth. With this route, you could be working on your next life.. even before you die.
That would be way too overpowered. You want to be able to have AI follow you, and then take conotrl of the AI after death. That would let people grow an endless amount of AI and have them stay close to you so that you can respawn in the same spot when you die. If you get killed, you can immediately spawn in and keep following that dinosaur that killed you. It's an endless cycle of fighting
barren zephyr
even if like half of the growth is limited its just taking away from the core of the game in my opinion? like seemless growth... making it into survival from basically stage 1.... the idea of AI minions like that just doesnt fit the game.. again in my opinion.
lusty stratus
Of course the general idea would need to be refined. But I'm certain it could be balanced. (you obviously couldnt have endless (1000s) of Ai babus for example), or "babus capable of continuing the fight". You could even make it species specific. For example: tenonto could have more and Rex could have one (?). And the rexs Ai babu couldn't grow past sub, so it wouldnt affect a fight after momma/dad died and it would still enable to you to get a head start on your next growth (and skip the juvie stage).
barren zephyr
that again is taking a way from the game
valid zephyr
I don't agree with the respawn option. but the nesting the AI for fun and interaction is a good thing
barren zephyr
like... just growing but they stop you at a certain point
yuh the respawn option is just taking some things that they are trying to eliminate now in evrima away
lusty stratus
🤔 what would it be taking away from the game aside from skipping juvie growth though?
valid zephyr
grouping with and nesting with AI I consider basically essential though
barren zephyr
You can say it can become balanced but even if it could its not how the game is meant to be played (a survival game where you spawn in as said dinosaur and try to make it through the dangers as juvie-adult.)
turbid glade
i cant count how often i spawned at cargo beach on v3 xD
turbid glade
there like 10 spawns in that location
barren zephyr
i think thats a huge must
like even since AI can fight back on their own now, (i think thats what they are doing)
turbid glade
shant ai..... oh my god pls no
valid zephyr
i think being able to spawn in the nest as a hatchling to AI parents would be better
rather than having a grown respawn
barren zephyr
i think AI being able to nest would be good
itd be like AI eggs also for omnivores
turbid glade
@valid zephyr there is on option in character creation that shows eggs on the server
valid zephyr
that way you're still limited the same as if you were nested via a player
lusty stratus
@barren zephyr @valid zephyr what would you think should happen to the Ai babu's after you log?
I'm not a game dev or isle balancer lol... but I know the idea is feasible!
valid zephyr
i assume the normal AI takes control of them
barren zephyr
Still being able to respawn as that dino/ at the growth can just make it so the carni can not get away
its unfair
you have infinite tries to kill them
I know youre not a dev or isle game balancer and you may think that is feasible, but it is a feedback channel for suggestions..... for a reason.
I dont think that idea would fit this kind of game.
lusty stratus
nooo no no lol. you would be limited by the amount you can have, for sure. You die as an adult, and your probably not going to want to try your fresh sub in a fight against the same thing that just killed your adult. but even if you did... you'd only have 1 or 2 tries
barren zephyr
you still can
there are still juvies. strong juivies at that and fresh subs who may kill you as AI
you may still go and pursue them even if they are last-two hit.
Its still abusable..
Thats not fair for the said player.
You should be able to come back to try to revenge kill them right there. Sorry.
If you lose a fight, you lose a fight. There shouldnt be no extra tries in that.
lusty stratus
I agree.. but that could be balanced out so easily imo. If nothing else... make it so your respawn can't damage the same dino that killed the parent. That would 100% solve your concern, but i'm sure there would be an easier/smoother way of preventing that.
barren zephyr
....then if they have a pack you can just attack them instead. Also again that is taking the SURVIVAL part out of the game if you are not able to even attack that dinosaur either.
I dont think that should be invested in as a feature.
valid zephyr
@void sundial why? it's based on a cassoway, where the female is brighter and has a larger crest
barren zephyr
The game is an open world survival, if you lose- you lose. There shouldnt be restrictions what so ever. Even if they did make it so you cant kill the said dinosaur, the player who killed you can just get an easy win by killing all of AI babies since you in its self wouldnt be able to damage/protect yourself.
lusty stratus
I mean... i dont think it would break the survival feel of the game with proper balancing... like at all. But the whole respawn thing wasn't really the main point of the suggestion. So i guess i'll agree to disagree on that one
barren zephyr
yuh
I like the first idea but the second one, i just dont think its worth investing into
valid zephyr
i think the respawn should be limted to spawning as a hatchling in an AI nest
lusty stratus
Bam i get that. but after playing for years... and surviving thousands of times... i'm completely ok with skipping the juvie stage lol. That wouldn't hurt the game play at all for me. Especially if it took skill/nurturing to enable and it wasnt guaranteed.
void sundial
@Jenkens Ok...
barren zephyr
Its not hurting the game for you, but its hurting the game for other players.
It will just be a must at a point to nest in baby AI so you can "Respawn"
its still abusable against you and abusable against o ther players.
lusty stratus
you must like playing juvie a lot lol
nah... all things in games are abusable until you nerf/balance
barren zephyr
I think its a part of the game, if you lose and die you got to start over.
shell roost
playing juvie is part of the game
lusty stratus
it still would be though lol
shell roost
can't just grow through it one time and be respawning every other time until you log