#general-feedback-discussion
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Remember that dude who made a suggestion saying when rex bit things they exploded lmao
Reminds me of that
Pressure sensor for Deinosuchus would be logical in my opinion. It's not that OP as people can think.
And yea pressure sense for deino would basically just be its alternative to sniffing tracks to find targets, wouldnt be op at all
@true thistle
he posted another one eh?
Dude never listens
next time it happens im tagging a mod
Alpha?
yup
Yes
Ah
Prehistorical Wildlife is far from Camara's "right size"
smh
And you have to factor in which species of cama you're talking about
Cama is about the right size for the smallest species isnt it?
By Doctor Nova. Not sure if it was said which particular species of Camara that was being used, but there was a 'field note' page for it a while back https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/709855565160906842/The_Isle_Asset_size.png
Yeah cama is a midget compared to supremus
yeah i always wondered why cama was so small
@lapis wasp
What do you guys think of pressure sensors?
dondi should be an announcer pack
when you die he insults you in different ways depending on how/ what you died as
3 call is extra small weight class
Like if you die to compy "EXTRA SMALL WEIGHT CLASS"

if you spam 1 call he does his rise of skywalker review
if you die as a young adult rex he does tawbosaurus
lol
you die to a sucho what does he say
EHHHH
pretty sure current cama is smaller than even lentus
@young quartz seems like ppl like that suggestion but personally I wouldn't rly want it to be a thing. Why? I feel like the utah has been given enough mobility and love already gameplaywise, I think it's unfair/overpowered to just give it wall jumps (even if it needs a certain speed). Keep in mind they plan to add an ability that works well for hunting, as a dmg buff against a certain dinosaur selected by the pack leader (I say "plan to add" because dondi spoke about this mechanic for the utah several times). If the utah had that i feel like servers would just be utah only because they can just wall jump to juke and escape other dinosaurs. Doesn't feel balanced at all for me (hence the thumbs down).
I was mostly saying Utah as an example, though I also was referring to Compy, Troodon... maybe Ovi if it jumps? Hense why I said small, lithe dinosaurs.
Though I can see where you're coming from. If there ever would be a wall jump, I don't feel like it should be too high, cause that'd be terribly ridiculous (I know I also mention stuff about slightly higher elevation, but that's only a huge maybe and it should probably be opted out). But yeah, I was mostly just speaking on a neat idea. Kinda forgot about the exploiters 😅 @harsh silo
Yeah it's all good, just wanted to give u my opinion because at the time I wrote the it I was the only negative reaction 
@young quartz I like the idea, but I don't really think it could be used all that much. It would be pretty rare for someone to actually come across a vertical wall, unless you use a tree. But with the amount of trees on the map, I think that could cause mobility issues in forests/jungles
Like you might try and jump normally, but end up jumping off a tree instead
Oh shit I forgot about tree climbing-
I mean, dif islands will have different terrain which could account for more walls but-
yeah that idea's in the dumpster then. Tree climbing also slipped my mind. Was a fun thing to entertain in my head though!
Still a great suggestion too. Much better than a lot of the other ones on here lol
Just wouldn't work out sadly XD 'ppreciate it though!
👍
Tree climbing would definetly be interesting, but for things like the compy, maybe the troodon or even the hypsi, not the utah for balance reasons imo
Not Troodon, Herrera
Pretty sure Hypsi's gonna be able to climb trees
hypsi be hopping imo
Is rain water going to collect into drinkable puddles??
maybe
depends on how deep the puddle is.
thats not impossible as the water levels already change.
tawbusorus dondi, tawbosarus
honestly should
Iirc it will
Cama should be playable in survival or another large sauropod 
But yes it does seem like it's getting touched up on something...
https://i.imgur.com/xGsQ5h7.jpg
Isnt body despawn a setting customizable by server anyway? The trailer suggested compy ai will gather at corpses too. Compies eating bushes is stupid though, would make more sense if herbivorous AI did that
^
@plush crest @sleek ingot
your suggestions were already confirmed and covered in various videos of [Ravenous], the Dev-Blog and Q&A docs...
@zenith onyx AI herding got a soft confirm a while ago...
people ignore any search function, yet are upset when their already x-times reposted suggestion only gets
⏲️

Can we add a rule about writing up your suggestion and posting it as a single post? rather than adding one line at a time 15 mins apart which spreads this one suggestion across like 2 pages.
bonus if you took so long that someone else posted a suggestion half way through your suggestion.
how about then to create a google doc?
posting a google doc only takes a single post.
problem solved
what did you guys think about my megalania suggestions? https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/709694513622548480
i am planning on reposting a more polished version with better ordering and alternating some abilities
@plush crest Compies where carnivorus meaning that the suggestion regarding the body eating sounds great but having little annoying creatures eat your bush could be really annoying esspecially if your starving.
I have a suggestion for developpers team. Stop Unreal Engine 4 and go Unreal Engine 5 ! 🤩 🤤
https://vimeo.com/417882964
Unreal Engine 5 empowers artists to achieve unprecedented levels of detail and interactivity, and brings these capabilities within practical reach of teams of all…
yeah lets let them finish the work here first
Unreal engine 5 doesn't even release till next year.
exactly how can they work on an engine thats not release
yeah theres also that
this is what filipe said on eu5
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401464048610312195/710356678864011284
And i think dondi commented on it somewhere but dont quote me on that
@keen trail That would be a programming nightmare, and servers with a lot of players/AI on them plus the size of the map would make it very hard for that to work
How
Hm
but filipe did say he would try it in his own free time
but hasnt gotten around to doing it yet
eh
I mean, the mechanic in itself also has similar issues which devs pointed out for baby carrying to an extent
especially the one where animals who are meant to be hunting smalls literally wont be able to even get the smalls who are on the back of biggens
I imagined it like how Dino riding in ark would be, you don’t actually walk around on the Dino, you are just stuck in place on its back. And you can look around some
That can work
Functions similar to pounce but you dont do damage
again has the fucks over small animal hunter issue
Ok I’ll add that to my suggestion see if it helps anyone understand it better
I can see how it fucks over small animal hunters, but I myself find it an intresting idea since it could make players more creative in the way of hunting!
Sure it sounds kind of stupid, but hunting has a lot of following and stalking in the process and the small ones , I would imagine, hop off when needing food and/or water.
The programming hell is a big yikes and down side sadly 😦
I would imagine it like in Mhw where you can find Phantom birds on the back of Some animals
@keen trail That would be easier from a programming perspective, but I feel like that could break immersion and i think it could be used to troll
@keen trail maybe that will be kinda a thing, cuz of collision? u could be a dryo and jump on the back of a trike, and u wouldnt phase thro it like u do now. u would be on top of it. but if the trike walks then u might fall off. or u might not. we havent seen any testers try to jump on bigger dinos and stand on top of them lol
so we dont know yet
nah afking should make it take longer than the average growth time
active players get the reward of shorter than average growth times
afk lazy players get proper punishment. people already just sit and afk for the whole 6-7 hours, keeping it the same wont encourage them at all
because thats whats going to happen
so afk, easy prey = longer then average growht rate. active, fave prey = little shorter than average grwoth rate?
twelve hour afk rex growth, hell yeah
fuck yeah
yeah ill see if i can find the thijng where dondi talked about it
thanks
i guess the having the average for non afk growers is better than having their growth rate be doubled
but sometimes i feel the growth rates r too long and a 30 min or hour shorter growth time couldnt hurt for actvie players could it?
oh and nines could u @ me next time cuz i usully dont look at this channel
just so i get the notification and i know that someone has an opinion on my suggestion so i can hear what they have to say u know?
im pretty sure it was mentioned that times can be from .5x or 2x depending on activity
@cobalt compass. I know the herds were confirmed. I was giving a suggestion on how the AI herds could work
so afk, easy prey = longer then average growht rate. active, fave prey = little shorter than average grwoth rate?
this is what is confirmed
Afking will make ya grow much longer, while being active can make ya grow faster
oh so being active doesnt mean that ur grwoth rate will be the average of ur species, it means it will be faster than ur species?
yes
i found a clip of the stream where dondi talked about growth in relation to food but it cuts off right before it talks about faster growth and i cant find the stream where it was from but yeah pretty much, wont be like, cut in half but it should be a good bit faster
nice
in your suggestion it sounds like you expect the current AI in evrima, but that ms not the case. pls be more specific
ill just delete my suggestion
cuz it seems like it is happening
sorry its just that its hard to know exactly what is happening in the recode
cuz they say most of their stuff in their streams
and i dont watch them
well @cobalt compass there will be the ai we have now in Evrima, but there will be more added too. fish, frogs (possibly), minmi's, and a few others. And the AI models we have now will be updated so they won't look completely the same in the recode.
And ai herds
yes, it sounds like you expect the "dumb" current state level AI, and we're getting more advanced AI for evrima. more quality AND more quantity
and there are already plans like the ai migration path that, most likely, includes better AI herd behavior
towards the player and other ai
no don't expect it to be dumb! i heard the ai will fight back. so no not dumb. ava's, taco's, velos, and oros will fight back too, just like the new AI that's coming.
@cobalt compass
mhm
what?
What if you meet all your dinos needs and stay active instead of being afk you not only grow faster but you have better stats.
meh stats should stay about where they are usually if youre active, and the afkers get shittier stats like worse stam and slower run cause their dinos were lazy as shit and got fat
yeah
also a while back I made a suggestion about a way to control apex populations and a simmular idea can be used for this
so I recomended if you meet all your dinos needs you will become more powerful.
Well what if having those needs will force you to move around
ragdolling is better than death animations imo
@zenith onyx
agreeing 'mhm'
how is ragdoll better? you jsut flop over.
because it's funnier
death animations you actually get something out of it
ragdoll you just get a heart attack and depression
what
?
ragdoll you just get a heart attack and depression
this
it just makes death fancier
you'll still get your heart attack and depression
yeah. why play a game if your gonna be depressed after losing. it sucks. the ragdoll affects would take affect after the death animation too....
not really too fan of it
that's your opinion
yeah
i won't be grudge you that
"Why play a game if you're gonna get depressed after losing" Isn't that how most, if not all games are? Losing isn't supposed to be fun, that's what makes you wanna win
And I'm neutral on the death animation thing. I can think of a lot of issues with it but it would add more life to the game
yeah that's what im trying to say. might tune down the super serious life of the isle. helps players cool down a bit before they lose it on the people around them in hte server
coping mechanism
Well I think the game should stay serious. The animation shouldn't be "cool" or "funny" it should be gruesome and traumatizing if anything imo
i know. it wouldn't be super cool. it would jsut make it interesting and take hte players mind off losing for a second. And it have to "cool" alittle bit.
And it wouldn't be very hard to do either. i took a few coding classes.
But i also think that would only work the first few times. Like the first time someone sees the death animation they might think "Okay, I died but at least a saw that neat animation" but after the 27th time, it just kinda does nothing
And yeah, I know it wouldn't be hard to do, but what would happen if something is in the middle of a death animation and another animal comes and attacks it? Or what if something is doing a death animation and then they get a death animation done on them?
well depending on where they were bit would mean how the animation plays out. regional damge.
I think the feature would work better in a single player game
And the death animation wouldn't happen every time. make it a special treat
and due to circumstances
But if it doesn't happen every time, then what causes it to happen?
sorry
cause of events. how the fight goes determines if it happens. like if the loser gives a really good fight then they get a death animation. of course they might get the choice if htey want a death animation or they can skip it. maybe the victor doesn't play the animation.
sorry if your having a hard time understanding. my thoughts are usually random and hap hazard
But then that leads back to my question from before, what happens if another player comes in and does something while that animation is playing?
well, the victor doesn't have to play the animation but if it does happen then he's victims animation continues and then they go back to the menu but then the victor gets his death animation after being bit. alternate animation. if attacked in mid animation, it ties into killing the new victim. so possibly mid roar he get grabbed by the neck and is taken to the ground.
it sounds complex but easy to build
Easy to build, but that's a lot of animations
yeah...
but like i said before it wouldn't happen all the time
it would be special
but it prob wan't happen though
they have so much on their hands anyway
I've seen this suggestion many many times tbh, and yours is the first one I've actually seen get a positive response. This is a suggestion I thought of before too, but I don't think it would work in this type of multiplayer game
yeah prob
Too many factors to consider
that's to be said about isla spero too
lol.
for once i actually had fun having this discusion. thanks @left nacelle
No prob 👍
@keen trail imo it seems easily exploitable, get on the back of a dinosaur, call everynow and then, get said dinosaur killed. (yes I know that there will be a thing against spam calling)
@arctic nimbus perhaps with ambush comes more stam deduction?
@lone ember cool idea, i feel like it might be abit too hard to implement into gameplay, or maybe it could be exploited somehow. If it was somehow made fun and balanced for gameplay then it would be cool to have mutualism or smth similar everynow and then, but since we're players, and not animals, it might not be a good idea, at least it won't be easy to implement in a way that doesn't break everything. Maybe having a big dinosaur and a small dinosaur have mutualism? 
Thats true, I had constantly on my mind that Players are smarter and more efficient in hunts when they really want to achive something.
So the mutualism could be exploided, wich I find rather sad.
But exactly! Like one big Hecking chonker and a smoll something.
Like maybe say an omnivore or small carnivore like Velo sticking to an Allo.
The Velo gets Dryos out of the burrow and the Allo kills it if it comes out
(Like the Badger and Kyote in the Video)
Hmmm, I feel like if mutualism exists, it shouldn't be hunt-related for carnivores, just because we're players. Something like "Certain dinosaur defend nests from small creatures" (there were gonna be frogs and bugs that juvies and probably small dinosaurs could hunt) would be a neat way to implement it for both carnis and herbies, if the small dinosaur isn't there, some adult could just stay near the nest so nothing small tries to attack it.
For carnivores i feel like it could be something related to HP regeneration? I wouldn't know how because devs aren't planning on small pterasaurs eating like the birds did with the hippos and rhinos. I can certainly see it working for herbivores since it's a more calm and, in a way, animal-like gameplay. Carnivores would be another story. Interesting idea nonetheless! ❤️
Hm! I see your point!
Expecially with Oviraptor coming into the Game, a nest defender while the Parents are away could be benefitial!
I hope that it can be implemented some way ❤️
IMHO hard cooldowns just wouldn't feel right in this game, ambush should be limited naturally with things like stamina or diminishing returns similar to jumping
Maybe they could do something similar to what they're doing to calls. Every time you use ambush within a certain time period, it's slower than the last time you use it
Or it uses up more stamina. I think that's better actually
Yea diminishing returns
Each time you spambush it is slower, drains more stam or is simply shorter
hmmm
I mean mutualism does exist between carnis
great example is the badger and coyote
and the grouper and moray eel
tis true
@harsh silo that’s why I said if the Dino starts attacking the little one falls off. Just buck the little Dino off your back and kill it if it gets annoying
Compy, ptera and zhenyuanlong(pls add my boy) would be good bug pickers too, would like to see ambient bird ai liven things up too
Maybe even galli and dryo could nip flies off their larger herd mates
I think Ptera would be a tad big to be a bug picker. I could see it being able to pick bugs off sauropods, but i think it would look weird on other animals. Considering how big it is
Hmn, maybe yeah a bit big to land in them without looking awkward
Could probably snap at bugs at the side though, just hanging out near large herds or chilling predators to eat the parasitic flies that follow them in the general area
Compy tho is perfect size
Yeah compy would be a great size
@thorny lynx I made a suggestion a while ago about new hatchling legs, maybe you could add that to your suggestion too

I want to see hatchlings try to get up and fall on their faces
Or baby trikes rolling around because they don't know what legs do
I think hatchlings should almost immobile at first
They should.
They should not be able to get up and immediately run. I really want to see them struggling in the first few minutes
Oh here's the rex juvy's new trot btw https://www.twitch.tv/rr_raptor65/clip/HardVictoriousMeatloafDendiFace?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
Kinda related lol
I wish the body was more horizontal
I think they made it more upright cause of how small rex juvy is. As it gets bigger it'll become more horizontal as it grows into the sub rex's trot animation
I understand that, but the way its body just leans to where its tail almost drags on the ground looks uncomfortable
Well it's a baby, it doesn't know how to walk too well yet lol. Plus it's got those long ass legs
Nah juvy is just above hatchling lol
So right after newborn
Here's sub rex https://clips.twitch.tv/SarcasticDepressedArtichokeFutureMan
I wish they stretched their legs out more when they trotted.
That would look uncomfortable imo
If they stretched it any more it would be locking its knees lol
Juvie rex has a lovely trot right now. It really works out its legs as it moves.
But the walks in this game look so uncomfortable, like they can barely move their hips and joints. When you move, you usually move your leg back as far as it can allow without making yourself fall over or lunge.
Birds don't
All I hope for is that they fix Rex walking as if it walks on a tightrope all the time.
rex gotta have that balance doe
But birds walk with one foot in front of the other. And so do prehistoric dinosaurs. We've found footprints that prove that
Oh.
That's what gives a lot of birds, like parrots, their characteristic waddle
The thighs and knees clip so badly though. I don't know why. Rex's knee sinks completely into his side when he crouches and walks
That's why they're changing a lot of the animations
Even in the new animations.
I'm sure they'll fix the walking anim, and rex is getting that new "crouch"
It's also because of how muscular the current rex's legs are. Dondi pointed that out on stream when they first added the current model
All I hope for is that they fix Rex walking as if it walks on a tightrope all the time.
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401464048610312195/709567487661965343
Dondi said something along the lines of "Bryan wanted the legs to be so damn muscular"
I truly don't care for our rex model very much. It's a bit too low-poly on the face and legs and it really has some issues with its snout and teeth.
bryan likes his rex to be a thiccums
Here's the message Bluedragnny just posted btw
Rex model imo rn looks fine
And i never noticed clipping issues outside of crouch
Yeah crouch is the worst one, but it's being fixed
It could look better from the front. It needs those triangular cheeks where the jaw muscles attach.
What
Triangular cheeks?
As long as we dont get fugly ass saurian rex face, idrc
There us an anchor point where the muscles on the top of the head attach to the temporomandibular joint that give Rex his terrific bite. It's... not really there.
not to be rude or anything but what your saying sounds like the lara croft:
It has those lol
Our Rex's face looks too round and his lips flare out triangularly to where his snout looks like it belongs to a dog.
Puppy rex.
they just don't stand out like a sore thumb is all
Puppy rex > irl rex
IRL rex be lookin like depressed barny and an elephant combined
Puppies are cute
Don't talk shit about Sue
I like puppies
Our rex looks pretty similar to Saurian's rex. Which is probably the most accurate rex out there right now
@thorny lynx They do have hatchling models look at the paras
sue is so dumb, getting parasites n shit
Our rex looks pretty similar to Saurian's rex. Which is probably the most accurate rex out there right now
Depressed Barney + elephant = that thing
Saurian rex = Best rex
no
@thorny lynx They do have hatchling models look at the paras
@silent current Hatchling rex doesn't look like a hatchling. Hatchlings had BIIGGGGG eyes and very long legs and long arms.
Mhmm
Saurian rex was always quite ugly imo
Especially the facial region
Like surei ts high quality but holy shit thats an ugly mama
og 1993 rexy is the best
Ew
Yep
Looks cross eyed
it's so cute
The hatchlings will probably come later :/
I like Rexy's head, but her body was so damn emaciated. Poor girl.
this rex is great
I mean theres only going to be tenoto and utah for when it first releases most likely
If that model's tail was longer and it lost the dewlap, it would have been fine
bro WWD short tailed rex when
I just really dislike how low-poly our Rex's face is. You can literally point at the edges.
Not to mention the dodecahedron for the waist. I've seen Jake sculpt models in Zbrush. Just make those models lower-poly and we are good.
Why do we need the jagged sonsobitches.
This be best rex tho
while we're on the topic of t-rex design, buck skin would be cool, just saying
MY BOI
TSL rex is a masterpiece
Tsl Rex's animations were the best. Bouncy thicc boi
animations were dogshit
no bb spam bullshit
if you look at the hope video the hope video shows hatchling paras https://youtu.be/EXwRqaRG2Zo?t=167 So hatchlings will most likely have their own stubby models
Ongoing re-development operations on Isla Spero and associated organics.
#TheIsle #Dinosaurs #Recode
The run was great
The rest was horrid
When they show sexual dimorphism
compy gang
Heck you. Look at him staring you down.
He can stare me down all he wants
Doesnt make him appear good
that thing is disgusting
^
bounty hunt it's existence away
Somehow Worse
Like body or whatever idc
The head and feet, man they are ugly
That is actually worse
Much worse
idk how you guys can hate that rex
ultimate is this how you get your sick kicks
Heads the issue pyro
head is so so, body is warped and horrid
Looks like depressed barney in that art
that one's head is nasty
eh I kinda see it now
Goathrob (Saurian Rex) model looks more appealing than the concept at imo
I agree the coloration is a bit eh
The model is worse than the art imo
Better saurian rex
Colors ruin it
^
Better than barney purple
Still ugly
man that is a bad first impression for saurian rex
The fuckin fatass neck and head will always be what loses me
Rex had a big head
it looks like it shoved too much cheese in it's face and now the leftover cheese is permanently there
Sure it had a big head, current rex and tsl rex did big head right tho
I mean look at this beaut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFBietPXLzQ&list=PLRY6k71_ShGBCbT3pePdby1h8VCkBaGgi&index=14
Skins were great
Anim was great (at least movement ones)
And the model was best
Just make a remake of TSL rex wirh chonker legs
I just want TSL rex back but not with the blus and red dot skin. That looked diseased.
https://www.deviantart.com/vcubestudios/art/Paleo-Art-A-Kings-Last-Hunt-743536010
Ok now tell me you don't like this rex
I hate that rex
The image does not load
how? it looks beautiful
click the link
Thigh looks weird
Oh god now it did
Holy shit its ugly
Look at the fucking tail
Arm looks deformed too
yep
and dont get me started on that lil bit of acne on its lip
damn y'all picky lol
poggers
Im not picky, Just that tsl rex is decent compared to fugly ass realistic rex
TSL rex is the best model out there.
and current isle rex is also better than fugly ass realistic rex
Can* doesn;t mean it always does
Realistic rex would not look is bad if they did not accent the lips
Now that does look better
that's alright
Heres the issue tho
How tf is it gonna look if modeled
Cuz 2d artwork doesnt always provide the same effect as models
see told ya it can look good
I hope TSL rex returns as a feather rex.
Feather rex 
2bad, Dondi wanta feather rex
that's the first one that's looked good all day pyro
Like seriously, one of the few animals proven to not have feathers
And people say add feathers
also pyro dont make a rule outa the exception
A model will prolly be reminiscent of saurian rex, which we covered issues of previously
This is prolly one of the best realistic rexs tho
fred does it once again
but that isnt as realsitic as some others which were posted
from my understanding the only big problem is the coloration
the face is usually nasty
I love TSL rex but this skin is ew
that skin is great
It looks diseased
New spino is getting some dots like that
that's why everyone ever did not use that skin for the most part
I like the larger dots
The facial dots i can agree are ugly
but i doubt theyll even remodel rex another time
Since current is pretty good
Perfection
Rex has been remodeled like 4 times now iirc?
Twice.
I mean
TSL, old model 1 current
So 3 that is i guess
allo on the other hand
fucker can't decide what it wants to look like
But Jacob had to do Rex twice
I just. Don't care for any of his Rexes. Not Saurian, not V2 or V3
TSL was best.m
it went from rad to fugly to boring
Basic bitch sperm cell baby bottom allo
i like current allo
Allo's face is gorgeous but the body is so basic it hurts
Our allo has the best face but the body... goodnight, give it some flare.
Hopefully we get customization. Spines or something.
i mean when patterning comes itll have all the flare it needs
I wish the patterns went with the scales and they weren't just drawn over
Looks like a kid colored over the scales
I mean a few different crest options would be nice I guess
I for one, have not seen one person that does not like mudflat allo
I hate the coloring on mudflat allos face
Give him back dammit
grizzly rex was a good skin
rip grizzly rex
The red on the neck and chest MMMM
wrong red for that
sunburnt rex sunburnt rex
Yes pls
Vulture rex ew
That fits Cera better
Can we just have this as our model please
'I'm a scavenger look at me'
shush
I want that Fred rex as our model
i just want remasted tsl rex
YES BITCH
but prolly cant due that
Well the original tsl model isnt directly owned by dondi, so im not sure if they cant remaster a model they dont directly own
Not 100% sure on the legal things there tho
maybe
Remastered TSL rex would look amazing. Fix up the teeth, bulk it up just a little bit, make the tail a bit longer
~~blue bary blue bary blue bary ~~
Idk why they needed to deviate from TSL rex. Why fix what was broken? It only needed a few touchups
Prolly cuz it was a TSL model
The brows were perfect, the mouth was perfect...
Which they plan to all replace due to being low quailty
where does all this come from?!
I wish Fred provided frontal views of the dinos so Jacob could model them more nicely from the front. A lot of our dinosaurs look wack from the front.
old the isle
the ninth circle of hell
many things look wack from the front
dogs look a bit derpy from the front
Well, they're birds
A reptilian from the front would be the best option
Since thats the design they went with
Alright no need for image spam
I'm curious as to why our Rex's snout is so long compared to skulls. Our adult rex skull is way too long, more like a subadult's than an adult
cuz why not
it's fine imo
A: Doesnt negatively affect the animals appearence
and B: doesnt serve any gameplay differences
Its the same as the complaint you did with how high or low spinos nose is on the model in general discussion like a day ago
I want to see our Rex's concept art
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/PgeY3
Is this TSL rex?
Tyrannosaurus model made for CG Breakdown (cgbreakdown.com).
Will be available for animation soon.
Video credits:
Model/Texture: Vlad Konstantinov
Texture/Lookdev: Laura Welter
Rigging: Victor Barbosa
Animation/Sound: Stephen Kelloway
no but same guy who made it
I love him
Yeah. I like that other Rex Vlad made. He's so perfect
Also bout ya hatchling suggestion
What ya think bout this old bab trike model
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/709909365984985168/Hatchling.png
Why is its head so tall and why is its spine so tall what the fuck

The legs look spot on but the rest is omg ew
Yeah. legs look perfect for hatchling. More twig and not stump
Wrong link
This is the best T-Rex I've ever seen
Isn't that the saurian trike
I wish Vlad could make a remodeled TSL rex for us to mod
Like, maybe our rex but with the TSL rex face.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/YgKzw
I remember this scene! I love this!
Dinosaur revolution was my jam!!
the designs are good
the narration and palaentological information... not so much
That is what I meant by the cheek bone parts.
Man, why does lighting make our faces look like shit with these new skins?
Also bout ya hatchling suggestion
What ya think bout this old bab trike model
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/709909365984985168/Hatchling.png
@covert birch isn't it the baby trike model for Saurian?
Idk
yes it is
What an ugly litle gremlin
cute in a ugly way lol
even the folks on the saurian discord call it a gremlin its a meme there
@night sand maybe no flies around the "body", to show observant players that something isn't right with the gore and to add some survivability to it for smaller animals
@barren zephyr what questions do you have?
i dont think it's for scaredtie specifically, just in general there are often new people who come in asking questions about stuff and it'd be good to have a place where they can ask without the risk of being ignored or buried in general discussion
exactly
but i doubt such a channel will be made, cuz the devs r busy and stuff
but id thought id suggest it anyway. maybe one of the server admins will see it and think its a good idea
@loud owl Exactly. Same with dehydration. And the screen shouldn't get bloody either, in my opinion it should just get blacker (like a vignette) and blurrier, and the dinosaur gets slower and slower until it would collapse and die.
good idea :0
Thanks! 😄
@drowsy wren Good ideas as well. I'd love flowers to come back to The Isle. However, the thorny flowers that damage you shouldn't be everywhere. If at all, I'd place them somewhere in larger bushes, in thick shrubbery. So that if you avoid the shrubbery, you also avoid those flowers. Because say you're a juvenile utahraptor, running from an adult rex. You're running away, into the woods and then you randomly get damaged. You probably won't even notice what damaged you because you'd be so far away from the flower. I think the flowers that damage you would have to be really iconic, so that you can already see that it's a thorny one from a distance. Maybe thicker-skinned or "armoured" dinosaurs (such as the Anky, Trike) wouldn't be affected by these thorns. To add to this, maybe it would also be good if they added thorny bushes, such as Blackberry. Herbivores could feast on the blackberries, but the non-armoured dinosaurs would get damaged if they went through. Maybe really small dinosaurs such as Compsognathus would be able to get through undamaged too. Also, for the Mudskippers. It's a good idea! Someone else also suggested them a few days back. However, I do have one question... would those be AI only?
Yes youre idea for blackberries etc is interesting and honestly very nice :>>
and yeah i think the mudskippers would be ai
it would be really cool to see them sitting or jumping and then when u run towards them or make a loud noise, they notice u and hide in theire smol mud holes
yesh ❤️
Eyeless not with ecolocation or thermal vision would be fucking dope.
I think his vision should be based on sound but it could also have a pretty good smell.
Also, a filter or eyeless boy vision like black and white would be cool.
I mean a filter that makes you feel like a monster creature.
oo ecolocation and therminal vision is hella dope yeah :0
@hallow moat Dondi mentioned a while back about a "maternal instincts" buff for nesting parents. He actually gave it the exact same name you did
Oh... Neat
I don't think it'll have the same effects that you listed, but it will be a thing in the future
if anyone remembers, in spore you could do a blind creature and had only 30-50% screen in b/w and the rest was faded to black
i could also imagine a heavy contrast mode were most things just outlined, similar to yautjafetts suggestion for nightvision
credit for this cool pic goes to YautjaFett#1160
if different patterns have different color limits then the old grizzy rex could come back
wait for the new customization posibilities
oh boy
I dont really think sucho would get less food from a corpse per say
But it prolly wouldn't be as beneficial as fish with new nutrition and food system
yeah fish suits for dietary needs, not so much how much would be able to be eaten
The dinos' heads move far too much for 1st person to work for the animals. It would at most happen for mercs and maybe tribals.
^
First person doesnt really function to well
There are some advantages, like when ambushing something your head pokes out of the brush before your camera but there are many more negatives comparatively
also u wouldn't be able to look behind you
@barren zephyr Paradym doesn't work on that stuff. He does marketing and merchandise. There won't be a first person for the dinosaurs. Things that attack at close range like dinosaurs, will be third person. Ranged things like mercs, will be first person
wait will humans actually play together with dinos?
it wa more ment as switchable button
and first person for animals would be a bit... disorientating. Especially for faster animals like Carno, Galli, and Utah
@plucky widget Yeah.... that's kinda obvious, isn't it?
Humans being included was planned since the beginning
they would just pew pew at the dinos?
like u sse on muliple survival games so it would be an optional viewmode that people could switch to
oh
Also if ya do waste all your ammo on 1 dino
Uh oh everything knows where you are now
Guns will be something they need to survive
so what will be the point?
Lore, rebuilding human structures, etc
Humans will be first person. So it'll be terrifying
Guns are for self defense
Not for hunting shit
Tribals will be doing that more prolly
tribals?????
Yea big ape lookin fuckers
im really not up to date
Like they aint normal humans
They're these mutant orc fucks
????huh
Tribals on the right
Mutated tribals? on the left
They hate modern technology, and they will be able to enslave dinosaurs
Genetic freaks known as tribals
The tribal is the one on the right, and the ones on the left we were told were called "cannibals" but that isn't what they actually are
so like
The Isle is a sci-fi horror game. Not a dinosaur simulator
how can this fuck can kill a rex?
Spears
Lots of time
Teamwork
^
Teamwork, spears, hooks, bows
they would be players right?
Yeah, you can play as them
jesus
the thing on the left will be incredibly strong. and they'll be able to climb trees and shit
and will an apex one shot em or they tanks
We don't know
oh god
damn
Tribals will also be able to enslave dinosaurs, forgot to add that
But they wont be easy to obtain ofc
wdym enslave?
Yea tribals gonna be enslaving other players
Via beating em to a pulp
Imagine ark taming
But violent
Tribals will beat dinosaurs and force them to obey. If the player doesn't obey, they die
^
no fun police
also they are like 9 ft tall
Yea dondi called em "avatar sized fuckers"
I thought of that gif when Simon said what lol
Ehh not really
Cuz a solo tribal will be fucked most of the time
which makes sense since playing humans are basically the horror aspect of this game
idk i dont like the idea of adding humans and weird apes in a dino game
Paradym described it as "be prepared or die"
I mean humans were planned as playables before dinos were
i mean yeah makes sense
This has been planned since the begiining
Well it's been like that since the beginning. If you don't like it, The Isle isn't the game for you
Dont worry tho
You can play on dino only servers
servers can disable humans
just like they can disable many other stuff thats coming
(other than now forced alt turn)
But the game will probably be a lot scarier and more interesting with humans
Alt turn is getting remade
i know
The balance is literally built around it
A utah shouldnt kill a rex solo
It.. is tho. Those are the devs words
And relying on bugs to kill something you cant kill isnt good gameplay
The current game is irrelevant. Everything is changing in the recode
i see
Yea not really comparible pre and post evrima
Only thing is the games the same at a base concept
The rest tho is completely changing
so ill explain why alt for me is not very balanced
so like
say you play on an alt turn server
as cera
ur just a bad allo
Cera is just shit
but if server no alt turn
Yes, which is why cera is being reworked
it changes everything
Okay, but Simon, that's the current game
Same with many other animals which are dogshit atm
Which are being reworked due to new mechanics coming n such
yeah i get that its the current
Even movement is different in the recode
ehh
If the only way to make it good is by removing other animals' defenses that means the animal is bad, not the mechanics it needs removed to kill other things
^
Its not alt turn thats unbalanced, its cerato
true
but
if you put cera in a non alt server
suddenly its an apex destroyer because its turn and utah nightmare
Its still bad if a player is smart
Exactly. Because nothing can defend itself
Ive killed ceras as galli on no alt
when allo is very doable as utah cera is near impossible
Youre removing other animals' means of defense not actually making the problem animal better.
^
You didnt improve anything for the animal, you brought down the other animals to make the one feel better
Dont bring other animals down
Bring the 1 bad animal up
i see what u mean
Plus Cerato will be different in the recode. It's gonna be like a hyena mixed with a bearded vulture
Something of that manner
It'll be able to eat raw meat and bone
at least basing off old concepts
but i think that if we want dinos to have flaws in movement in exchange for say damage
turn is a good choice
Something of that manner is happening
Animals will turn in place at different speeds
Yeah some animals will turn slower than others
Bigger animals will turn slower
You either have high damage or high cc
etc
Look at trike turning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDodx7Pyl-Q
yeah i know about the speeds but why should a giga turn in place entirely without losing a bit of control
It turns pretty slow compared to something like utah
yeah i saw utah its like sonic
why would it lose control?
Because it's standing still?
control over where it ends up
If you're standing still you should be perfectly fine turning
Do you lose control when youre turning around?
If you do it fast enough technically
but giga or rex wont be going too fast
so they would be fine
Yeah if you spin like a beyblade
u lose your ground i meam
Which fat fuck giga shouldnt be doing anymore
the speeds dont bother me
Only if you spin super fast tho
Atm
We don't know how fast giga and rex will turn. I would assume they'll turn at a decent speed
Prolly faster than trike
Slower than most midtiers
Yeah that's what i was thinking
With alt they are also pretty good
Except for really giga, allo, and sucho imo
i dont play on alt so i dont really know
Without alt, they can't turn fast enough to defend themselves
Theres only a few animals with major issues on alt turn
It's less the speed and the whole "move in a circle" really
No alt turn doesn't make the game more risky, it just makes it harder to defend yourself
Just give every critter a walk turn like a cera and we're good.. xD
so dibble alt turn is really slow
Defending yourself should be easier than hunting
but its z turn is very quick
Yes some z walks are faster than alt turns
Only on some animals
Utah is another example of this
Z walk is slightly faster
Some animals have pretty slow z turns
yeah tru
The new alt turning is actually pretty similar to z turn now that i think about it
giga z is surprisingly slow
Mechanically at least
and alt turn is not used in combat as much as other people normally think
yeah its just that u stay in place
The thing is you dont
Cuz staying in place = you get hit more
YOu use alt turn really only in cases your getting assridden n such
Spino is a sandbox dino so not really a good example
You so have a chance tho. Keep your distance and look for an opening
Giga can wipe out most of the roster and has only rex as a bad matchup
Don't just run in and bite
Not everything should be able to kill everything
Plus giga can still win that bad matchup if played smart
so yea, gigas only bad matchup is rex
And yet it can still win that if played well
While giga also can trot down a large portion of the survival roster
but whats an opening if they can just turn in place
You can still kill them if they turn in place
On alt turn sepcifically
no safe way
You dont trade bites
If you ambush a rex as gig you can prolly get 2-3 bites in before rex turns all the way around and gets 1 bite on ya
The opening is to get the hit and move away before the target can retaliate
that too
true but you shouldnt be limited to one bite
You do not stay and fight when the opposition is stronger than you, you hit and run/pack up
if you have an opening you should be able to use it all the way
yes and all the way is 1-3 bites
Exactly, and since a giga bleeds out a rex in two hits, yeah..
and then they turn in place and what do u do
And you start trotting
Gtfo away from that mouth
or if ya get 3 bites in
You can facetank the rex and live
and you lost you opening
you didnt since now rex will bleed
You had that opening and you got a free hit in
Which is gigas specialty
Thats's what you got, that's what will win you the battle if you play it properly
but why should you tank it
Tanking is another strat
And only viable if you get 3 bites
which by then you can facetank and win
But the whole get 1-2 and trot away is best
Let target bleed out and itll die
Look, if you're not the strongest in the battle, you do not facetank, you get the hits, and let bleed/hit and run wear the prey down, the only ones that should "facetank" are rex/trike, things that can't do a hit/run or one hit + bleed or something.
^
So the opening is used differently, and that's the point.
You still have the same opening, you just act differently depending on what you are and what you hunt. As a rex, you can stay on the trike, as a giga, you can't, or shouldn't. You want the opening in both cases, so you can get that first hit in free.
i see
@barren zephyr this is the place to comment on suggestions
I don't noitce that chanel, Sorry
So Its not how starving animals looks like,
Thats how sick animasl looks like,
👀 Thats disturbing cruel and worth it to delete before a mod saw it,
^Thats pretty messed up
Nice Blue but you need to eat those eggs that have a baby inside raw bacuse beside its more tasty it would fit to the Isle style,
Eating half developed dinosaurs babies,
I mean, i doubt there will be a dub egg mechanic
so all eggs will have "babies" in them
But as a yellow white mess not as and embrio or what ever English call alkio,
Now eggs are spawnpoints in the game,
wait whats Ovi
I was thinking apex males would be encouraged to kill/eat ither males along with offspring that isnt theres
Oviraptor
wait whats Ovi
@plucky widget https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/709487668647559248/Eggyboys.jpg
oh
Oviraptor an Omivore raptor
is that new?
Ya
i havent seen this
Kind of
dang looks. cool
Check phase 2 channel lots of stuff there
Its been in concept for a while,
Yeah, Always watch #phase-two-archive Simon
Now Ovi is a fix concept,
id keep an eye on it
uhh
idk but I doubt that starving dinosaur suggestion is allowed here..
uh..
<@&401466542140817419>
there's a really uncomfortably cruel-lookin' pic for a suggestion
many apologies if it's somehow allowed-
👍🏽
many thanks-
@barren zephyr
1: Territory systerm as a whole is uneeded imo, especially since a player can replicate it ingame without actually taking the time to build it,
2: the whole certain animals prefer certain biomes will be happening with preferred food as a mechanic, herbis will go in mass to areas their preferred food is in mass, carnis will follow their preferred herbi a majority of the time to these areas
3: whole stamina thing is really uneeded imo, let a player go where they please, they already face the issues following preferred food n other stuff
4: Apex AI is confirmed
5: Scent system is being reworked (they showed a bit of it in #phase-two-archive)
6: Nightvision system is confirmed for a rework, we dont know what said rework is tho
7: Limiting apexs per map on a hard number leads to many gameplay issues which devs have gone over already
Preferred prey is already confirmed for benefits within a nutritional system
Wait, they showed scent in phase 2? When?
scroll up a bit
They did a test for it
@loud owl utah will be getting a cosmetic option to be feathered in the future
thts more hype for da game
@molten tangle Floods are most likely happening, and forest fires have been shown in the past but idk if they're still happening
forest fires caused tons of problems for the engine but theyre not necessarily impossible, technically. i know we're having tides but idk about true floods. id like them
Well water levels will raise and lower. Not doing floods seems like a missed opportunity
yea, i think the issue from there might be foliage? itd be a bit awkward if half a tree was underwater but the branches werent weighed/affected by the water
I don't see that being awkward
Especially if the water doesn't even go up to the tree's branches
I doubt it would go that high anyway
i guess im just nitpicky lmao. floods would be so nice
lets hope it doesnt also cause server issues, but i dont see why it would
Yeah. Floods would be hype af
Meh, its a tropical island
o
Snow storms generally dont happen on thsose unless something got mega fucked up
There will be biodomes n such in other maps with snow
There can possibly be snow storms or something inside
if the mountains are tall enough id like snow but only at the peaks. snow (the weather) wouldnt make sense
a biodome map would be insanely cool
dondi compared it to evolve biodomes, which were fucking massive
Like the singular map wasnt
But the building in and out itself, was huge n expansive
ive actually been playing a bit of evolve recently, its my fav map. with how big the isle maps are id love to see their take on it
sad evolve did a dead
he can atleast add volcanos
There will be a volcano on thenyaw
But it wont explode
@crude crow already confirmed, and maybe give some depth other than "frogs"
Frogs @strange wave
:/
🐸
gimme some chunky fuckin boys to munch. having poison frogs would be cool too
the issue is that theyre so small
Gimme this chad too
Frogs confirmed where?
having them as actual ai would be.... rough
well super with only 50 player servers seems like they going with the mega amounts of ai route
making them like an animated meat bush might be better server wise but its certainly less interesting
No we just want lil frogs we can see near water
ahh you mean like ambiance
It’s the little things
Edible ambiance
this is why you gotta type out your discussions lul
Yo lets get this frog
The bugger had head armor, and a bite around as strong to modern big cats
beelze id like as a legit ai, since compys about that big too
imagine the fat fucking croaks from those things
Nah they wouldnt croak
would be more like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McuTqehV7_A
NOTE: The little tank he was in was his feeding tank where I give him feeder fish.
Grimlock was having a terrible day. He would scream and lunge at everything, including the feeder fish. I gave him three, only one was left in the video. Poor dear.
Today, Grimlock doesn’t do t...
even better
This video is much better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctqr0RSoQY0
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budgett's frog right?
ye
With rex's bite force, i feel he'd rather crush the spine or throat of an animal than take the time choking it
Of the 4 listed there allo and mono seem more fitting
Unless carno fills the role of a sort of bulldog grabbing the snout with his short face and trying to endure the thrashing of the target, that would look kinda ridiculous
Carno is more of a small prey hunter
what is it with people wanting winter on a tropical island
With rex's bite force, i feel he'd rather crush the spine or throat of an animal than take the time choking it
@paper oriole that is true, but for the sub stage it could work bc it doesnt quite yet have the bite force
hmn yeah sub rex, and alberto, could use it
yeah, i think he'd be a good glass cannon crusher but he could try to choke things that he can't crunch lol
Apexes can also choke
spino do be deep throating with arms
i see
@night sand i find it weird that carno will choke
I'm hoping gen 1 utah appears as a skin option too.
its jaw is very small and not very strong teeth