#general-feedback-discussion

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rare bramble
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imagine wanting to buff rex

paper oriole
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Remember that dude who made a suggestion saying when rex bit things they exploded lmao

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Reminds me of that

pulsar lake
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Pressure sensor for Deinosuchus would be logical in my opinion. It's not that OP as people can think.

rare bramble
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wait... someone suggested when a rex bites you you explode

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;_;

paper oriole
rare bramble
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ewwwww...

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that's just no

paper oriole
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And yea pressure sense for deino would basically just be its alternative to sniffing tracks to find targets, wouldnt be op at all

valid zephyr
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Suggestions like that are why I come here.

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always gives me a good laugh.

rare bramble
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pressure sensers!

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oh god i spelt sensors wrong

icy lion
strange wave
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he posted another one eh?

indigo sun
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Dude never listens

strange wave
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next time it happens im tagging a mod

pale sorrel
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Alpha?

cobalt compass
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yup

frosty crystal
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Yes

pale sorrel
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Ah

mellow maple
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Prehistorical Wildlife is far from Camara's "right size"

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smh

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And you have to factor in which species of cama you're talking about

indigo sun
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Cama is about the right size for the smallest species isnt it?

mellow maple
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A tad under C.lentus

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I think, anyways

torn thistle
mellow maple
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~Oh my

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C.supremus is the desired species I think

honest sparrow
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Yeah cama is a midget compared to supremus

past eagle
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yeah i always wondered why cama was so small

indigo sun
civic stone
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What do you guys think of pressure sensors?

night sand
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idk

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theyd be very hard to hit unless its a large area

honest sparrow
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dondi should be an announcer pack

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when you die he insults you in different ways depending on how/ what you died as

night sand
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3 call is extra small weight class

honest sparrow
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Like if you die to compy "EXTRA SMALL WEIGHT CLASS"

night sand
honest sparrow
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if you spam 1 call he does his rise of skywalker review

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if you die as a young adult rex he does tawbosaurus

night sand
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lol

strange wave
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you die to a sucho what does he say

night sand
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EHHHH

valid zephyr
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pretty sure current cama is smaller than even lentus

harsh silo
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@young quartz seems like ppl like that suggestion but personally I wouldn't rly want it to be a thing. Why? I feel like the utah has been given enough mobility and love already gameplaywise, I think it's unfair/overpowered to just give it wall jumps (even if it needs a certain speed). Keep in mind they plan to add an ability that works well for hunting, as a dmg buff against a certain dinosaur selected by the pack leader (I say "plan to add" because dondi spoke about this mechanic for the utah several times). If the utah had that i feel like servers would just be utah only because they can just wall jump to juke and escape other dinosaurs. Doesn't feel balanced at all for me (hence the thumbs down).

young quartz
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I was mostly saying Utah as an example, though I also was referring to Compy, Troodon... maybe Ovi if it jumps? Hense why I said small, lithe dinosaurs.

Though I can see where you're coming from. If there ever would be a wall jump, I don't feel like it should be too high, cause that'd be terribly ridiculous (I know I also mention stuff about slightly higher elevation, but that's only a huge maybe and it should probably be opted out). But yeah, I was mostly just speaking on a neat idea. Kinda forgot about the exploiters 😅 @harsh silo

harsh silo
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Yeah it's all good, just wanted to give u my opinion because at the time I wrote the it I was the only negative reaction TenontoLove

left nacelle
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@young quartz I like the idea, but I don't really think it could be used all that much. It would be pretty rare for someone to actually come across a vertical wall, unless you use a tree. But with the amount of trees on the map, I think that could cause mobility issues in forests/jungles

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Like you might try and jump normally, but end up jumping off a tree instead

young quartz
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Oh shit I forgot about tree climbing-

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I mean, dif islands will have different terrain which could account for more walls but-

yeah that idea's in the dumpster then. Tree climbing also slipped my mind. Was a fun thing to entertain in my head though!

left nacelle
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Still a great suggestion too. Much better than a lot of the other ones on here lol

young quartz
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Just wouldn't work out sadly XD 'ppreciate it though!

left nacelle
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👍

harsh silo
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Tree climbing would definetly be interesting, but for things like the compy, maybe the troodon or even the hypsi, not the utah for balance reasons imo

night sand
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Not Troodon, Herrera

left nacelle
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Pretty sure Hypsi's gonna be able to climb trees

honest sparrow
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hypsi be hopping imo

barren zephyr
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Is rain water going to collect into drinkable puddles??

frosty igloo
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maybe

vast wolf
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depends on how deep the puddle is.

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thats not impossible as the water levels already change.

warped garden
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tawbusorus dondi, tawbosarus

merry condor
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camawasauras should get upsized.

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dwondi

honest sparrow
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honestly should

sleek ingot
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Iirc it will

ashen elm
paper oriole
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Isnt body despawn a setting customizable by server anyway? The trailer suggested compy ai will gather at corpses too. Compies eating bushes is stupid though, would make more sense if herbivorous AI did that

rare bramble
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^

cobalt compass
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@plush crest @sleek ingot
your suggestions were already confirmed and covered in various videos of [Ravenous], the Dev-Blog and Q&A docs...
@zenith onyx AI herding got a soft confirm a while ago...

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people ignore any search function, yet are upset when their already x-times reposted suggestion only gets dondiLUL ⏲️ dondiFacepalm dondiSquint

valid zephyr
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Can we add a rule about writing up your suggestion and posting it as a single post? rather than adding one line at a time 15 mins apart which spreads this one suggestion across like 2 pages.

bonus if you took so long that someone else posted a suggestion half way through your suggestion.

cobalt compass
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how about then to create a google doc?

valid zephyr
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posting a google doc only takes a single post.

cobalt compass
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problem solveddondiYay

silent current
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i am planning on reposting a more polished version with better ordering and alternating some abilities

night sand
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Me like

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Whaddya think of my idea for a choking mechanic?

frosty igloo
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@plush crest Compies where carnivorus meaning that the suggestion regarding the body eating sounds great but having little annoying creatures eat your bush could be really annoying esspecially if your starving.

tulip flame
indigo sun
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yeah lets let them finish the work here first

gentle blade
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Unreal engine 5 doesn't even release till next year.

outer nebula
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exactly how can they work on an engine thats not release

indigo sun
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yeah theres also that

covert birch
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And i think dondi commented on it somewhere but dont quote me on that

left nacelle
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@keen trail That would be a programming nightmare, and servers with a lot of players/AI on them plus the size of the map would make it very hard for that to work

keen trail
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How

covert birch
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personally dont know how

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but kissen mentioned it being a pain for programmers

keen trail
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Hm

covert birch
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but filipe did say he would try it in his own free time

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but hasnt gotten around to doing it yet

keen trail
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Sweet

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So if it is ever in game, the two people to did 👎 owe me an apology

honest sparrow
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eh

covert birch
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I mean, the mechanic in itself also has similar issues which devs pointed out for baby carrying to an extent

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especially the one where animals who are meant to be hunting smalls literally wont be able to even get the smalls who are on the back of biggens

keen trail
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I imagined it like how Dino riding in ark would be, you don’t actually walk around on the Dino, you are just stuck in place on its back. And you can look around some

covert birch
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That can work

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Functions similar to pounce but you dont do damage

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again has the fucks over small animal hunter issue

keen trail
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Ok I’ll add that to my suggestion see if it helps anyone understand it better

lone ember
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I can see how it fucks over small animal hunters, but I myself find it an intresting idea since it could make players more creative in the way of hunting!
Sure it sounds kind of stupid, but hunting has a lot of following and stalking in the process and the small ones , I would imagine, hop off when needing food and/or water.

The programming hell is a big yikes and down side sadly 😦

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I would imagine it like in Mhw where you can find Phantom birds on the back of Some animals

left nacelle
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@keen trail That would be easier from a programming perspective, but I feel like that could break immersion and i think it could be used to troll

barren zephyr
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@keen trail maybe that will be kinda a thing, cuz of collision? u could be a dryo and jump on the back of a trike, and u wouldnt phase thro it like u do now. u would be on top of it. but if the trike walks then u might fall off. or u might not. we havent seen any testers try to jump on bigger dinos and stand on top of them lol

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so we dont know yet

indigo sun
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nah afking should make it take longer than the average growth time

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active players get the reward of shorter than average growth times

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afk lazy players get proper punishment. people already just sit and afk for the whole 6-7 hours, keeping it the same wont encourage them at all

strange wave
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because thats whats going to happen

barren zephyr
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so afk, easy prey = longer then average growht rate. active, fave prey = little shorter than average grwoth rate?

strange wave
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twelve hour afk rex growth, hell yeah

honest sparrow
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fuck yeah

indigo sun
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yeah ill see if i can find the thijng where dondi talked about it

barren zephyr
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thanks

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i guess the having the average for non afk growers is better than having their growth rate be doubled

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but sometimes i feel the growth rates r too long and a 30 min or hour shorter growth time couldnt hurt for actvie players could it?

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oh and nines could u @ me next time cuz i usully dont look at this channel

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just so i get the notification and i know that someone has an opinion on my suggestion so i can hear what they have to say u know?

icy lion
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im pretty sure it was mentioned that times can be from .5x or 2x depending on activity

zenith onyx
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@cobalt compass. I know the herds were confirmed. I was giving a suggestion on how the AI herds could work

covert birch
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so afk, easy prey = longer then average growht rate. active, fave prey = little shorter than average grwoth rate?
this is what is confirmed
Afking will make ya grow much longer, while being active can make ya grow faster

barren zephyr
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oh so being active doesnt mean that ur grwoth rate will be the average of ur species, it means it will be faster than ur species?

covert birch
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yes

indigo sun
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i found a clip of the stream where dondi talked about growth in relation to food but it cuts off right before it talks about faster growth and i cant find the stream where it was from but yeah pretty much, wont be like, cut in half but it should be a good bit faster

barren zephyr
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nice

cobalt compass
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in your suggestion it sounds like you expect the current AI in evrima, but that ms not the case. pls be more specific

barren zephyr
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ill just delete my suggestion

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cuz it seems like it is happening

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sorry its just that its hard to know exactly what is happening in the recode

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cuz they say most of their stuff in their streams

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and i dont watch them

zenith onyx
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well @cobalt compass there will be the ai we have now in Evrima, but there will be more added too. fish, frogs (possibly), minmi's, and a few others. And the AI models we have now will be updated so they won't look completely the same in the recode.

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And ai herds

cobalt compass
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yes, it sounds like you expect the "dumb" current state level AI, and we're getting more advanced AI for evrima. more quality AND more quantity

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and there are already plans like the ai migration path that, most likely, includes better AI herd behavior

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towards the player and other ai

zenith onyx
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no don't expect it to be dumb! i heard the ai will fight back. so no not dumb. ava's, taco's, velos, and oros will fight back too, just like the new AI that's coming.

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@cobalt compass

cobalt compass
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mhm

zenith onyx
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what?

frosty igloo
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What if you meet all your dinos needs and stay active instead of being afk you not only grow faster but you have better stats.

indigo sun
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meh stats should stay about where they are usually if youre active, and the afkers get shittier stats like worse stam and slower run cause their dinos were lazy as shit and got fat

frosty igloo
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yeah

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also a while back I made a suggestion about a way to control apex populations and a simmular idea can be used for this

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so I recomended if you meet all your dinos needs you will become more powerful.

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Well what if having those needs will force you to move around

frosty crystal
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ragdolling is better than death animations imo

cobalt compass
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@zenith onyx
agreeing 'mhm'

zenith onyx
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how is ragdoll better? you jsut flop over.

frosty crystal
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because it's funnier

zenith onyx
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death animations you actually get something out of it

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ragdoll you just get a heart attack and depression

frosty crystal
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what

zenith onyx
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?

frosty crystal
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ragdoll you just get a heart attack and depression
this

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it just makes death fancier

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you'll still get your heart attack and depression

zenith onyx
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yeah. why play a game if your gonna be depressed after losing. it sucks. the ragdoll affects would take affect after the death animation too....

frosty crystal
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not really too fan of it

zenith onyx
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that's your opinion

frosty crystal
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yeah

zenith onyx
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i won't be grudge you that

left nacelle
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"Why play a game if you're gonna get depressed after losing" Isn't that how most, if not all games are? Losing isn't supposed to be fun, that's what makes you wanna win

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And I'm neutral on the death animation thing. I can think of a lot of issues with it but it would add more life to the game

zenith onyx
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yeah that's what im trying to say. might tune down the super serious life of the isle. helps players cool down a bit before they lose it on the people around them in hte server

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coping mechanism

left nacelle
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Well I think the game should stay serious. The animation shouldn't be "cool" or "funny" it should be gruesome and traumatizing if anything imo

zenith onyx
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i know. it wouldn't be super cool. it would jsut make it interesting and take hte players mind off losing for a second. And it have to "cool" alittle bit.

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And it wouldn't be very hard to do either. i took a few coding classes.

left nacelle
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But i also think that would only work the first few times. Like the first time someone sees the death animation they might think "Okay, I died but at least a saw that neat animation" but after the 27th time, it just kinda does nothing

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And yeah, I know it wouldn't be hard to do, but what would happen if something is in the middle of a death animation and another animal comes and attacks it? Or what if something is doing a death animation and then they get a death animation done on them?

zenith onyx
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well depending on where they were bit would mean how the animation plays out. regional damge.

left nacelle
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I think the feature would work better in a single player game

zenith onyx
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And the death animation wouldn't happen every time. make it a special treat

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and due to circumstances

left nacelle
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But if it doesn't happen every time, then what causes it to happen?

zenith onyx
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sorry

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cause of events. how the fight goes determines if it happens. like if the loser gives a really good fight then they get a death animation. of course they might get the choice if htey want a death animation or they can skip it. maybe the victor doesn't play the animation.

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sorry if your having a hard time understanding. my thoughts are usually random and hap hazard

left nacelle
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But then that leads back to my question from before, what happens if another player comes in and does something while that animation is playing?

zenith onyx
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well, the victor doesn't have to play the animation but if it does happen then he's victims animation continues and then they go back to the menu but then the victor gets his death animation after being bit. alternate animation. if attacked in mid animation, it ties into killing the new victim. so possibly mid roar he get grabbed by the neck and is taken to the ground.

left nacelle
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That sounds very complex

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especially since there's 40+ animals in the game

zenith onyx
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it sounds complex but easy to build

left nacelle
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Easy to build, but that's a lot of animations

zenith onyx
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yeah...

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but like i said before it wouldn't happen all the time

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it would be special

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but it prob wan't happen though

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they have so much on their hands anyway

left nacelle
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I've seen this suggestion many many times tbh, and yours is the first one I've actually seen get a positive response. This is a suggestion I thought of before too, but I don't think it would work in this type of multiplayer game

zenith onyx
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yeah prob

left nacelle
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Too many factors to consider

zenith onyx
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that's to be said about isla spero too

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lol.

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for once i actually had fun having this discusion. thanks @left nacelle

left nacelle
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No prob 👍

harsh silo
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@keen trail imo it seems easily exploitable, get on the back of a dinosaur, call everynow and then, get said dinosaur killed. (yes I know that there will be a thing against spam calling)

night sand
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@arctic nimbus perhaps with ambush comes more stam deduction?

harsh silo
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@lone ember cool idea, i feel like it might be abit too hard to implement into gameplay, or maybe it could be exploited somehow. If it was somehow made fun and balanced for gameplay then it would be cool to have mutualism or smth similar everynow and then, but since we're players, and not animals, it might not be a good idea, at least it won't be easy to implement in a way that doesn't break everything. Maybe having a big dinosaur and a small dinosaur have mutualism? Dilothink

lone ember
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Thats true, I had constantly on my mind that Players are smarter and more efficient in hunts when they really want to achive something.
So the mutualism could be exploided, wich I find rather sad.

But exactly! Like one big Hecking chonker and a smoll something.

Like maybe say an omnivore or small carnivore like Velo sticking to an Allo.
The Velo gets Dryos out of the burrow and the Allo kills it if it comes out
(Like the Badger and Kyote in the Video)

harsh silo
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Hmmm, I feel like if mutualism exists, it shouldn't be hunt-related for carnivores, just because we're players. Something like "Certain dinosaur defend nests from small creatures" (there were gonna be frogs and bugs that juvies and probably small dinosaurs could hunt) would be a neat way to implement it for both carnis and herbies, if the small dinosaur isn't there, some adult could just stay near the nest so nothing small tries to attack it.

For carnivores i feel like it could be something related to HP regeneration? I wouldn't know how because devs aren't planning on small pterasaurs eating like the birds did with the hippos and rhinos. I can certainly see it working for herbivores since it's a more calm and, in a way, animal-like gameplay. Carnivores would be another story. Interesting idea nonetheless! ❤️

lone ember
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Hm! I see your point!
Expecially with Oviraptor coming into the Game, a nest defender while the Parents are away could be benefitial!

I hope that it can be implemented some way ❤️

paper oriole
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IMHO hard cooldowns just wouldn't feel right in this game, ambush should be limited naturally with things like stamina or diminishing returns similar to jumping

left nacelle
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Maybe they could do something similar to what they're doing to calls. Every time you use ambush within a certain time period, it's slower than the last time you use it

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Or it uses up more stamina. I think that's better actually

paper oriole
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Yea diminishing returns

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Each time you spambush it is slower, drains more stam or is simply shorter

honest sparrow
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hmmm

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I mean mutualism does exist between carnis

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great example is the badger and coyote

left nacelle
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and the grouper and moray eel

honest sparrow
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tis true

keen trail
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@harsh silo that’s why I said if the Dino starts attacking the little one falls off. Just buck the little Dino off your back and kill it if it gets annoying

paper oriole
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Compy, ptera and zhenyuanlong(pls add my boy) would be good bug pickers too, would like to see ambient bird ai liven things up too

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Maybe even galli and dryo could nip flies off their larger herd mates

left nacelle
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I think Ptera would be a tad big to be a bug picker. I could see it being able to pick bugs off sauropods, but i think it would look weird on other animals. Considering how big it is

paper oriole
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Hmn, maybe yeah a bit big to land in them without looking awkward

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Could probably snap at bugs at the side though, just hanging out near large herds or chilling predators to eat the parasitic flies that follow them in the general area

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Compy tho is perfect size

left nacelle
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Yeah compy would be a great size

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@thorny lynx I made a suggestion a while ago about new hatchling legs, maybe you could add that to your suggestion too

thorny lynx
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I want to see hatchlings try to get up and fall on their faces

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Or baby trikes rolling around because they don't know what legs do

left nacelle
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I think hatchlings should almost immobile at first

thorny lynx
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They should.

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They should not be able to get up and immediately run. I really want to see them struggling in the first few minutes

left nacelle
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Kinda related lol

thorny lynx
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I wish the body was more horizontal

left nacelle
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I think they made it more upright cause of how small rex juvy is. As it gets bigger it'll become more horizontal as it grows into the sub rex's trot animation

thorny lynx
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I understand that, but the way its body just leans to where its tail almost drags on the ground looks uncomfortable

left nacelle
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Well it's a baby, it doesn't know how to walk too well yet lol. Plus it's got those long ass legs

thorny lynx
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It's a juvie. It's 5 years old

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It knows better

left nacelle
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Nah juvy is just above hatchling lol

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So right after newborn

thorny lynx
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I wish they stretched their legs out more when they trotted.

left nacelle
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That would look uncomfortable imo

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If they stretched it any more it would be locking its knees lol

thorny lynx
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Juvie rex has a lovely trot right now. It really works out its legs as it moves.

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But the walks in this game look so uncomfortable, like they can barely move their hips and joints. When you move, you usually move your leg back as far as it can allow without making yourself fall over or lunge.

left nacelle
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Birds don't

thorny lynx
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All I hope for is that they fix Rex walking as if it walks on a tightrope all the time.

honest sparrow
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rex gotta have that balance doe

left nacelle
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But birds walk with one foot in front of the other. And so do prehistoric dinosaurs. We've found footprints that prove that

thorny lynx
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Oh.

honest sparrow
left nacelle
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That's what gives a lot of birds, like parrots, their characteristic waddle

thorny lynx
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The thighs and knees clip so badly though. I don't know why. Rex's knee sinks completely into his side when he crouches and walks

left nacelle
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That's why they're changing a lot of the animations

thorny lynx
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Even in the new animations.

honest sparrow
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I'm sure they'll fix the walking anim, and rex is getting that new "crouch"

left nacelle
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It's also because of how muscular the current rex's legs are. Dondi pointed that out on stream when they first added the current model

covert birch
left nacelle
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Dondi said something along the lines of "Bryan wanted the legs to be so damn muscular"

thorny lynx
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I truly don't care for our rex model very much. It's a bit too low-poly on the face and legs and it really has some issues with its snout and teeth.

honest sparrow
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bryan likes his rex to be a thiccums

left nacelle
covert birch
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Rex model imo rn looks fine
And i never noticed clipping issues outside of crouch

honest sparrow
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yea rex rn is good

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I kinda miss my TSL rex tho ngl

left nacelle
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Yeah crouch is the worst one, but it's being fixed

thorny lynx
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It could look better from the front. It needs those triangular cheeks where the jaw muscles attach.

covert birch
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What

left nacelle
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Triangular cheeks?

covert birch
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As long as we dont get fugly ass saurian rex face, idrc

thorny lynx
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There us an anchor point where the muscles on the top of the head attach to the temporomandibular joint that give Rex his terrific bite. It's... not really there.

honest sparrow
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not to be rude or anything but what your saying sounds like the lara croft:

left nacelle
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You mean that? Behind the teeth?

thorny lynx
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Yeah

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That edge

left nacelle
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It has those lol

thorny lynx
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Our Rex's face looks too round and his lips flare out triangularly to where his snout looks like it belongs to a dog.

covert birch
thorny lynx
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Puppy rex.

honest sparrow
covert birch
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Puppy rex > irl rex

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IRL rex be lookin like depressed barny and an elephant combined

honest sparrow
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Puppies are cute

thorny lynx
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Don't talk shit about Sue

honest sparrow
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I like puppies

left nacelle
thorny lynx
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Sue is beautiful

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Hehe look at those lips

silent current
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@thorny lynx They do have hatchling models look at the paras

honest sparrow
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sue is so dumb, getting parasites n shit

covert birch
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Our rex looks pretty similar to Saurian's rex. Which is probably the most accurate rex out there right now
Depressed Barney + elephant = that thing

left nacelle
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Saurian rex = Best rex

honest sparrow
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no

thorny lynx
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@thorny lynx They do have hatchling models look at the paras
@silent current Hatchling rex doesn't look like a hatchling. Hatchlings had BIIGGGGG eyes and very long legs and long arms.

left nacelle
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Mhmm

covert birch
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Saurian rex was always quite ugly imo
Especially the facial region
Like surei ts high quality but holy shit thats an ugly mama

honest sparrow
left nacelle
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Ew

covert birch
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Yep

left nacelle
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Looks cross eyed

honest sparrow
silent current
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The hatchlings will probably come later :/

thorny lynx
#

I like Rexy's head, but her body was so damn emaciated. Poor girl.

covert birch
silent current
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I mean theres only going to be tenoto and utah for when it first releases most likely

thorny lynx
#

If that model's tail was longer and it lost the dewlap, it would have been fine

honest sparrow
#

bro WWD short tailed rex when

thorny lynx
#

I just really dislike how low-poly our Rex's face is. You can literally point at the edges.

Not to mention the dodecahedron for the waist. I've seen Jake sculpt models in Zbrush. Just make those models lower-poly and we are good.

Why do we need the jagged sonsobitches.

covert birch
honest sparrow
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while we're on the topic of t-rex design, buck skin would be cool, just saying

thorny lynx
#

MY BOI

honest sparrow
#

TSL rex is a masterpiece

thorny lynx
#

Tsl Rex's animations were the best. Bouncy thicc boi

covert birch
#

animations were dogshit

honest sparrow
#

no bb spam bullshit

silent current
covert birch
#

The run was great
The rest was horrid

silent current
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When they show sexual dimorphism

honest sparrow
#

compy gang

thorny lynx
#

Gimme that thicc boi MMMM

covert birch
#

I hope that literally, never happens

#

Put that disgusting elephant thing down

thorny lynx
#

Heck you. Look at him staring you down.

covert birch
#

He can stare me down all he wants
Doesnt make him appear good

honest sparrow
#

that thing is disgusting

covert birch
#

^

honest sparrow
#

bounty hunt it's existence away

thorny lynx
#

That's a scary boi

honest sparrow
#

Somehow Worse

covert birch
#

Like body or whatever idc
The head and feet, man they are ugly

#

That is actually worse

honest sparrow
#

Much worse

junior crow
#

idk how you guys can hate that rex

honest sparrow
#

ultimate is this how you get your sick kicks

covert birch
#

Heads modeling is fine
The fatassery is horrid

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he colors be bad too

covert birch
#

Heads the issue pyro

honest sparrow
#

head is so so, body is warped and horrid

covert birch
#

Looks like depressed barney in that art

honest sparrow
#

that one's head is nasty

junior crow
#

eh I kinda see it now

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Goathrob (Saurian Rex) model looks more appealing than the concept at imo

#

I agree the coloration is a bit eh

covert birch
#

The model is worse than the art imo

thorny lynx
covert birch
#

Colors ruin it

honest sparrow
#

^

thorny lynx
#

Better than barney purple

covert birch
#

Still ugly

honest sparrow
#

man that is a bad first impression for saurian rex

covert birch
#

The fuckin fatass neck and head will always be what loses me

thorny lynx
#

Rex had a big head

honest sparrow
#

it looks like it shoved too much cheese in it's face and now the leftover cheese is permanently there

covert birch
#

Sure it had a big head, current rex and tsl rex did big head right tho

thorny lynx
#

Tsl boi

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Mmmm he always looked so heavy

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Give me that run animation pls

covert birch
#

Skins were great
Anim was great (at least movement ones)
And the model was best

thorny lynx
#

Just make a remake of TSL rex wirh chonker legs

covert birch
#

no

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keep the legs like that

thorny lynx
#

I just want TSL rex back but not with the blus and red dot skin. That looked diseased.

junior crow
honest sparrow
#

I hate that rex

covert birch
#

The image does not load

junior crow
#

how? it looks beautiful

honest sparrow
#

click the link

thorny lynx
#

Thigh looks weird

covert birch
#

Oh god now it did
Holy shit its ugly
Look at the fucking tail

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Arm looks deformed too

honest sparrow
#

yep

covert birch
#

and dont get me started on that lil bit of acne on its lip

junior crow
#

damn y'all picky lol

thorny lynx
#

Give it bacc. Please.

honest sparrow
#

poggers

covert birch
#

Im not picky, Just that tsl rex is decent compared to fugly ass realistic rex

thorny lynx
#

TSL rex is the best model out there.

covert birch
#

and current isle rex is also better than fugly ass realistic rex

junior crow
#

I disagree realistic rex can look really good

honest sparrow
#

Can* doesn;t mean it always does

thorny lynx
#

Realistic rex would not look is bad if they did not accent the lips

covert birch
#

Now that does look better

honest sparrow
#

that's alright

covert birch
#

Heres the issue tho
How tf is it gonna look if modeled

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Cuz 2d artwork doesnt always provide the same effect as models

junior crow
#

see told ya it can look good

thorny lynx
#

I hope TSL rex returns as a feather rex.

covert birch
#

Feather rex dondiSquint

thorny lynx
#

2bad, Dondi wanta feather rex

honest sparrow
#

that's the first one that's looked good all day pyro

covert birch
#

Like seriously, one of the few animals proven to not have feathers
And people say add feathers

honest sparrow
#

BUT DWANDWI MY REALISTIC SUICIDAL REX

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with a side of innacurate feathers

covert birch
#

also pyro dont make a rule outa the exception
A model will prolly be reminiscent of saurian rex, which we covered issues of previously

honest sparrow
#

fred does it once again

covert birch
#

but that isnt as realsitic as some others which were posted

junior crow
#

from my understanding the only big problem is the coloration

covert birch
#

Nah its the face

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Color is one of them but holy shit the face

honest sparrow
#

the face is usually nasty

thorny lynx
covert birch
#

that skin is great

thorny lynx
#

It looks diseased

covert birch
#

New spino is getting some dots like that

honest sparrow
#

that's why everyone ever did not use that skin for the most part

covert birch
#

I like the larger dots
The facial dots i can agree are ugly

junior crow
#

Personally I like the face on the model but to each their own

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Saurian model that is

thorny lynx
#

Give TSL rex face on our model

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But Old Rex teeth

covert birch
#

but i doubt theyll even remodel rex another time
Since current is pretty good

thorny lynx
#

Perfection

covert birch
#

Rex has been remodeled like 4 times now iirc?

thorny lynx
#

Twice.

honest sparrow
#

I don't know why people want feathers so badly

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on rex that is

covert birch
#

I mean
TSL, old model 1 current
So 3 that is i guess

honest sparrow
#

allo on the other hand

covert birch
#

Plus if you take into consideration possible feathered rex model

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allo also had 3

honest sparrow
#

fucker can't decide what it wants to look like

thorny lynx
#

But Jacob had to do Rex twice

#

I just. Don't care for any of his Rexes. Not Saurian, not V2 or V3

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TSL was best.m

honest sparrow
#

it went from rad to fugly to boring

thorny lynx
#

Basic bitch sperm cell baby bottom allo

covert birch
#

i like current allo

thorny lynx
#

Allo's face is gorgeous but the body is so basic it hurts

covert birch
#

body yes is quite bland

#

but it fits for how bland of an animal allo is

thorny lynx
#

Our allo has the best face but the body... goodnight, give it some flare.

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Hopefully we get customization. Spines or something.

covert birch
#

i mean when patterning comes itll have all the flare it needs

honest sparrow
#

Yeah

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but rn it's SOOOOOOOOOOO boring

thorny lynx
#

I wish the patterns went with the scales and they weren't just drawn over

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Looks like a kid colored over the scales

honest sparrow
#

I mean a few different crest options would be nice I guess

thorny lynx
#

I miss Dilo purple.

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Give me barney dilo back

covert birch
#

ew

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Fleshy dilo was mediocre

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Same with fleshy cerato colors

honest sparrow
#

I for one, have not seen one person that does not like mudflat allo

covert birch
#

I hate the coloring on mudflat allos face

thorny lynx
covert birch
#

grizzly rex was a good skin

honest sparrow
#

rip grizzly rex

thorny lynx
#

The red on the neck and chest MMMM

covert birch
#

red on the neck and chest makes it look sunburnt

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rest is cool tho

thorny lynx
#

It looks like it rolled in blood

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Messy boi

covert birch
#

wrong red for that

thorny lynx
#

Yeah

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But blood and bone dust

honest sparrow
thorny lynx
#

Yes pls

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Vulture rex ew

#

That fits Cera better

honest sparrow
thorny lynx
#

'I'm a scavenger look at me'

honest sparrow
#

bruh blue has his own bary skin

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wtf

covert birch
#

shush

thorny lynx
#

I want that Fred rex as our model

covert birch
#

i just want remasted tsl rex

thorny lynx
#

YES BITCH

covert birch
#

but prolly cant due that

thorny lynx
#

oh they sure as hell can

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Jacob made the aquatic spino

honest sparrow
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can=/= will

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jacob made aquatic spino for funsies

covert birch
#

Well the original tsl model isnt directly owned by dondi, so im not sure if they cant remaster a model they dont directly own

#

Not 100% sure on the legal things there tho

honest sparrow
#

maybe

thorny lynx
#

Remastered TSL rex would look amazing. Fix up the teeth, bulk it up just a little bit, make the tail a bit longer

honest sparrow
covert birch
#

that skin, but blue detailing 👌

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Like thats practically my pfp

thorny lynx
#

Idk why they needed to deviate from TSL rex. Why fix what was broken? It only needed a few touchups

covert birch
#

Prolly cuz it was a TSL model

thorny lynx
#

The brows were perfect, the mouth was perfect...

covert birch
#

Which they plan to all replace due to being low quailty

honest sparrow
past eagle
#

where does all this come from?!

thorny lynx
#

I wish Fred provided frontal views of the dinos so Jacob could model them more nicely from the front. A lot of our dinosaurs look wack from the front.

covert birch
#

old the isle

honest sparrow
#

the ninth circle of hell

covert birch
#

many things look wack from the front

honest sparrow
#

ever tried staring at anything head on?

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not comfy, at all

thorny lynx
#

Penguins look nice

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Regal as fuck

covert birch
honest sparrow
#

dogs look a bit derpy from the front

covert birch
#

Idk if penguins are a good example

#

especially since you called our rex puppy rex

thorny lynx
#

Well, they're birds

honest sparrow
#

because penguins stand upright

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like human upright

covert birch
#

A reptilian from the front would be the best option

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Since thats the design they went with

honest sparrow
covert birch
honest sparrow
covert birch
#

Alright no need for image spam

honest sparrow
#

aight

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but things look weird from the front

thorny lynx
#

I'm curious as to why our Rex's snout is so long compared to skulls. Our adult rex skull is way too long, more like a subadult's than an adult

covert birch
#

cuz why not

honest sparrow
#

it's fine imo

covert birch
#

A: Doesnt negatively affect the animals appearence
and B: doesnt serve any gameplay differences

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Its the same as the complaint you did with how high or low spinos nose is on the model in general discussion like a day ago

thorny lynx
#

I want to see our Rex's concept art

covert birch
#

no but same guy who made it

thorny lynx
#

I love him

covert birch
thorny lynx
#

Yeah. I like that other Rex Vlad made. He's so perfect

covert birch
thorny lynx
#

Why is its head so tall and why is its spine so tall what the fuck

covert birch
thorny lynx
#

The legs look spot on but the rest is omg ew

covert birch
#

Personally tho the legs be great

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If eyes were lower head can also maybe look good

thorny lynx
#

Yeah. legs look perfect for hatchling. More twig and not stump

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Wrong link

outer condor
#

Isn't that the saurian trike

covert birch
#

idk

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that rex be ugly imo

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Never liked the hair

thorny lynx
#

I wish Vlad could make a remodeled TSL rex for us to mod

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Like, maybe our rex but with the TSL rex face.

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Dinosaur revolution was my jam!!

honest sparrow
#

the designs are good

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the narration and palaentological information... not so much

thorny lynx
#

That is what I meant by the cheek bone parts.

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Man, why does lighting make our faces look like shit with these new skins?

random imp
covert birch
#

Idk

junior crow
#

yes it is

random imp
#

What an ugly litle gremlin

ebon tiger
#

yes

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that "gremlin" is what irl baby Trikes look like

junior crow
#

cute in a ugly way lol

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even the folks on the saurian discord call it a gremlin its a meme there

strange wave
#

@night sand maybe no flies around the "body", to show observant players that something isn't right with the gore and to add some survivability to it for smaller animals

night sand
#

tru

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edited it

potent ruin
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@barren zephyr what questions do you have?

indigo sun
#

i dont think it's for scaredtie specifically, just in general there are often new people who come in asking questions about stuff and it'd be good to have a place where they can ask without the risk of being ignored or buried in general discussion

barren zephyr
#

exactly

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but i doubt such a channel will be made, cuz the devs r busy and stuff

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but id thought id suggest it anyway. maybe one of the server admins will see it and think its a good idea

pale sorrel
#

@loud owl Exactly. Same with dehydration. And the screen shouldn't get bloody either, in my opinion it should just get blacker (like a vignette) and blurrier, and the dinosaur gets slower and slower until it would collapse and die.

drowsy wren
#

good idea :0

pale sorrel
#

Thanks! 😄

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@drowsy wren Good ideas as well. I'd love flowers to come back to The Isle. However, the thorny flowers that damage you shouldn't be everywhere. If at all, I'd place them somewhere in larger bushes, in thick shrubbery. So that if you avoid the shrubbery, you also avoid those flowers. Because say you're a juvenile utahraptor, running from an adult rex. You're running away, into the woods and then you randomly get damaged. You probably won't even notice what damaged you because you'd be so far away from the flower. I think the flowers that damage you would have to be really iconic, so that you can already see that it's a thorny one from a distance. Maybe thicker-skinned or "armoured" dinosaurs (such as the Anky, Trike) wouldn't be affected by these thorns. To add to this, maybe it would also be good if they added thorny bushes, such as Blackberry. Herbivores could feast on the blackberries, but the non-armoured dinosaurs would get damaged if they went through. Maybe really small dinosaurs such as Compsognathus would be able to get through undamaged too. Also, for the Mudskippers. It's a good idea! Someone else also suggested them a few days back. However, I do have one question... would those be AI only?

drowsy wren
#

Yes youre idea for blackberries etc is interesting and honestly very nice :>>

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and yeah i think the mudskippers would be ai

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it would be really cool to see them sitting or jumping and then when u run towards them or make a loud noise, they notice u and hide in theire smol mud holes

pale sorrel
#

Yeah exactly! 😄

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Thank you ❤️

drowsy wren
#

yesh ❤️

pulsar lake
#

Eyeless not with ecolocation or thermal vision would be fucking dope.
I think his vision should be based on sound but it could also have a pretty good smell.

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Also, a filter or eyeless boy vision like black and white would be cool.
I mean a filter that makes you feel like a monster creature.

drowsy wren
#

oo ecolocation and therminal vision is hella dope yeah :0

left nacelle
#

@hallow moat Dondi mentioned a while back about a "maternal instincts" buff for nesting parents. He actually gave it the exact same name you did

hallow moat
#

Oh... Neat

left nacelle
#

I don't think it'll have the same effects that you listed, but it will be a thing in the future

hallow moat
#

Cool

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👍

cobalt compass
#

if anyone remembers, in spore you could do a blind creature and had only 30-50% screen in b/w and the rest was faded to black

strange wave
#

if different patterns have different color limits then the old grizzy rex could come back

barren zephyr
#

yh i liked old one

cobalt compass
#

wait for the new customization posibilities

past berry
#

i just want few patterns for every dino

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and maybe more color possibilities

strange wave
#

oh boy

covert birch
#

I dont really think sucho would get less food from a corpse per say
But it prolly wouldn't be as beneficial as fish with new nutrition and food system

plucky widget
#

@barren zephyr 1st person would suck on the isle

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alot

honest sparrow
#

yeah fish suits for dietary needs, not so much how much would be able to be eaten

indigo sun
#

The dinos' heads move far too much for 1st person to work for the animals. It would at most happen for mercs and maybe tribals.

covert birch
#

^

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First person doesnt really function to well
There are some advantages, like when ambushing something your head pokes out of the brush before your camera but there are many more negatives comparatively

plucky widget
#

also u wouldn't be able to look behind you

left nacelle
#

@barren zephyr Paradym doesn't work on that stuff. He does marketing and merchandise. There won't be a first person for the dinosaurs. Things that attack at close range like dinosaurs, will be third person. Ranged things like mercs, will be first person

plucky widget
#

wait will humans actually play together with dinos?

barren zephyr
#

it wa more ment as switchable button

torn thistle
#

and first person for animals would be a bit... disorientating. Especially for faster animals like Carno, Galli, and Utah

left nacelle
#

@plucky widget Yeah.... that's kinda obvious, isn't it?

torn thistle
#

Humans being included was planned since the beginning

plucky widget
#

they would just pew pew at the dinos?

barren zephyr
#

like u sse on muliple survival games so it would be an optional viewmode that people could switch to

covert birch
#

Not really simon

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Since guns will be very difficult to find,
And ammo is even rarer

plucky widget
#

oh

covert birch
#

Also if ya do waste all your ammo on 1 dino
Uh oh everything knows where you are now

left nacelle
#

Guns will be something they need to survive

plucky widget
#

so what will be the point?

covert birch
#

Lore, rebuilding human structures, etc

left nacelle
#

Humans will be first person. So it'll be terrifying

covert birch
#

Guns are for self defense

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Not for hunting shit

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Tribals will be doing that more prolly

plucky widget
#

tribals?????

covert birch
#

Yea big ape lookin fuckers

plucky widget
#

im really not up to date

covert birch
#

Like they aint normal humans

left nacelle
#

They're these mutant orc fucks

plucky widget
#

????huh

covert birch
left nacelle
#

They hate modern technology, and they will be able to enslave dinosaurs

plucky widget
#

what the fuck

#

is that

covert birch
#

Genetic freaks known as tribals

left nacelle
#

The tribal is the one on the right, and the ones on the left we were told were called "cannibals" but that isn't what they actually are

plucky widget
#

so like

left nacelle
#

The Isle is a sci-fi horror game. Not a dinosaur simulator

plucky widget
#

how can this fuck can kill a rex?

covert birch
#

Spears
Lots of time

left nacelle
#

Teamwork

covert birch
#

^

left nacelle
#

Teamwork, spears, hooks, bows

plucky widget
#

they would be players right?

covert birch
#

Thing on the left will be like hypo strength

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Strain monster humanoid

left nacelle
#

Yeah, you can play as them

plucky widget
#

jesus

left nacelle
#

the thing on the left will be incredibly strong. and they'll be able to climb trees and shit

plucky widget
#

and will an apex one shot em or they tanks

left nacelle
#

We don't know

covert birch
#

We just know they are insanely quick n powerful

#

for their size at least

plucky widget
#

oh god

covert birch
#

Prolly comparible to a hypo utah in strength

#

but as intelligent as a human

plucky widget
#

so basically they op

#

?

covert birch
#

yes

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Like all strains

plucky widget
#

damn

left nacelle
#

Tribals will also be able to enslave dinosaurs, forgot to add that

covert birch
#

But they wont be easy to obtain ofc

plucky widget
#

wdym enslave?

covert birch
#

Yea tribals gonna be enslaving other players
Via beating em to a pulp

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Imagine ark taming
But violent

plucky widget
#

pulp?

#

oh jesus

left nacelle
#

Tribals will beat dinosaurs and force them to obey. If the player doesn't obey, they die

covert birch
#

^

plucky widget
#

no fun police

covert birch
#

also they are like 9 ft tall

plucky widget
#

WHAT

#

tbh

covert birch
#

Yea dondi called em "avatar sized fuckers"

left nacelle
plucky widget
#

that sounds shit

#

ngl

left nacelle
#

I thought of that gif when Simon said what lol

covert birch
#

Ehh not really
Cuz a solo tribal will be fucked most of the time

plucky widget
#

oh yeah Blue

#

exactly that

covert birch
#

which makes sense since playing humans are basically the horror aspect of this game

plucky widget
#

idk i dont like the idea of adding humans and weird apes in a dino game

covert birch
#

Paradym described it as "be prepared or die"

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I mean humans were planned as playables before dinos were

plucky widget
#

i mean yeah makes sense

indigo sun
#

This has been planned since the begiining

left nacelle
#

Well it's been like that since the beginning. If you don't like it, The Isle isn't the game for you

covert birch
#

Dont worry tho

indigo sun
#

You can play on dino only servers

covert birch
#

servers can disable humans

plucky widget
#

oh

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thats nice

covert birch
#

just like they can disable many other stuff thats coming

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(other than now forced alt turn)

left nacelle
#

But the game will probably be a lot scarier and more interesting with humans

plucky widget
#

nooooooo

#

i was just about to ask about alt turn

#

why force it?

left nacelle
#

Alt turn is getting remade

plucky widget
#

i know

left nacelle
#

The balance is literally built around it

covert birch
#

Balance is built around it existing

#

If it doesnt exist
Balane isnt proper

plucky widget
#

not really

#

because

covert birch
#

A utah shouldnt kill a rex solo

left nacelle
#

It.. is tho. Those are the devs words

plucky widget
#

yeah its meant to be built around it

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MEANT

covert birch
#

And relying on bugs to kill something you cant kill isnt good gameplay

left nacelle
#

The current game is irrelevant. Everything is changing in the recode

plucky widget
#

i see

covert birch
#

Yea not really comparible pre and post evrima

#

Only thing is the games the same at a base concept
The rest tho is completely changing

plucky widget
#

so ill explain why alt for me is not very balanced

#

so like

#

say you play on an alt turn server

#

as cera

#

ur just a bad allo

indigo sun
#

Cera is just shit

plucky widget
#

but if server no alt turn

covert birch
#

Yes, which is why cera is being reworked

plucky widget
#

it changes everything

left nacelle
#

Okay, but Simon, that's the current game

covert birch
#

Same with many other animals which are dogshit atm

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Which are being reworked due to new mechanics coming n such

plucky widget
#

yeah i get that its the current

left nacelle
#

Even movement is different in the recode

covert birch
#

ehh

indigo sun
#

If the only way to make it good is by removing other animals' defenses that means the animal is bad, not the mechanics it needs removed to kill other things

covert birch
#

^

indigo sun
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Its not alt turn thats unbalanced, its cerato

plucky widget
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true

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but

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if you put cera in a non alt server

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suddenly its an apex destroyer because its turn and utah nightmare

covert birch
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Its still bad if a player is smart

left nacelle
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Exactly. Because nothing can defend itself

covert birch
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Ive killed ceras as galli on no alt

plucky widget
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when allo is very doable as utah cera is near impossible

indigo sun
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Youre removing other animals' means of defense not actually making the problem animal better.

covert birch
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^

indigo sun
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You didnt improve anything for the animal, you brought down the other animals to make the one feel better

covert birch
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Dont bring other animals down
Bring the 1 bad animal up

plucky widget
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i see what u mean

left nacelle
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Plus Cerato will be different in the recode. It's gonna be like a hyena mixed with a bearded vulture

covert birch
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Something of that manner

left nacelle
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It'll be able to eat raw meat and bone

covert birch
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at least basing off old concepts

plucky widget
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but i think that if we want dinos to have flaws in movement in exchange for say damage

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turn is a good choice

covert birch
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Something of that manner is happening

indigo sun
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Animals will turn in place at different speeds

left nacelle
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Yeah some animals will turn slower than others

covert birch
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Bigger animals will turn slower
You either have high damage or high cc
etc

left nacelle
plucky widget
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yeah i know about the speeds but why should a giga turn in place entirely without losing a bit of control

left nacelle
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It turns pretty slow compared to something like utah

plucky widget
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yeah i saw utah its like sonic

covert birch
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why would it lose control?

left nacelle
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Because it's standing still?

plucky widget
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control over where it ends up

left nacelle
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If you're standing still you should be perfectly fine turning

indigo sun
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Do you lose control when youre turning around?

covert birch
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If you do it fast enough technically

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but giga or rex wont be going too fast

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so they would be fine

indigo sun
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Yeah if you spin like a beyblade

plucky widget
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u lose your ground i meam

indigo sun
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Which fat fuck giga shouldnt be doing anymore

plucky widget
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the speeds dont bother me

left nacelle
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Only if you spin super fast tho

plucky widget
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oh yeah

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giga turns

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fast

covert birch
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Atm

left nacelle
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We don't know how fast giga and rex will turn. I would assume they'll turn at a decent speed

covert birch
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Prolly faster than trike
Slower than most midtiers

left nacelle
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Yeah that's what i was thinking

covert birch
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Only real exception to this rule is prolly deino

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and megalania

plucky widget
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tbh i find most dinos turn and speed turn pretty balanced

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without alt

covert birch
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With alt they are also pretty good
Except for really giga, allo, and sucho imo

plucky widget
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i dont play on alt so i dont really know

left nacelle
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Without alt, they can't turn fast enough to defend themselves

plucky widget
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but for me without alt it makes the game more risky

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and fun

indigo sun
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Theres only a few animals with major issues on alt turn

cyan flame
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It's less the speed and the whole "move in a circle" really

left nacelle
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No alt turn doesn't make the game more risky, it just makes it harder to defend yourself

cyan flame
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Just give every critter a walk turn like a cera and we're good.. xD

plucky widget
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so dibble alt turn is really slow

left nacelle
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Defending yourself should be easier than hunting

plucky widget
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but its z turn is very quick

covert birch
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Yes some z walks are faster than alt turns

left nacelle
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Only on some animals

covert birch
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Utah is another example of this
Z walk is slightly faster

left nacelle
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Some animals have pretty slow z turns

plucky widget
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yeah tru

left nacelle
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The new alt turning is actually pretty similar to z turn now that i think about it

plucky widget
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giga z is surprisingly slow

left nacelle
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Mechanically at least

covert birch
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and alt turn is not used in combat as much as other people normally think

plucky widget
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yeah its just that u stay in place

covert birch
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The thing is you dont

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Cuz staying in place = you get hit more

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YOu use alt turn really only in cases your getting assridden n such

plucky widget
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well lets say im a spino

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im behind a rex

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i munch the rex

covert birch
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Spino is a sandbox dino so not really a good example

plucky widget
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and it just turns in place and i got no chance

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ok so giga

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doesntatter

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matter*

left nacelle
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You so have a chance tho. Keep your distance and look for an opening

covert birch
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Giga can wipe out most of the roster and has only rex as a bad matchup

left nacelle
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Don't just run in and bite

covert birch
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Not everything should be able to kill everything

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Plus giga can still win that bad matchup if played smart

plucky widget
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brb

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back

covert birch
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so yea, gigas only bad matchup is rex
And yet it can still win that if played well
While giga also can trot down a large portion of the survival roster

plucky widget
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but whats an opening if they can just turn in place

covert birch
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You can still kill them if they turn in place

plucky widget
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rex is not that bad against giga

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yes but u have to trade bites

covert birch
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On alt turn sepcifically

plucky widget
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no safe way

covert birch
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You dont trade bites

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If you ambush a rex as gig you can prolly get 2-3 bites in before rex turns all the way around and gets 1 bite on ya

cyan flame
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The opening is to get the hit and move away before the target can retaliate

covert birch
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that too

plucky widget
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true but you shouldnt be limited to one bite

cyan flame
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You do not stay and fight when the opposition is stronger than you, you hit and run/pack up

plucky widget
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if you have an opening you should be able to use it all the way

covert birch
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yes and all the way is 1-3 bites

cyan flame
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Exactly, and since a giga bleeds out a rex in two hits, yeah..

plucky widget
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and then they turn in place and what do u do

covert birch
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And you start trotting

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Gtfo away from that mouth
or if ya get 3 bites in
You can facetank the rex and live

plucky widget
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and you lost you opening

covert birch
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you didnt since now rex will bleed

cyan flame
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You had that opening and you got a free hit in

covert birch
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Which is gigas specialty

cyan flame
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Thats's what you got, that's what will win you the battle if you play it properly

plucky widget
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but why should you tank it

covert birch
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Tanking is another strat

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And only viable if you get 3 bites

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which by then you can facetank and win

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But the whole get 1-2 and trot away is best
Let target bleed out and itll die

cyan flame
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Look, if you're not the strongest in the battle, you do not facetank, you get the hits, and let bleed/hit and run wear the prey down, the only ones that should "facetank" are rex/trike, things that can't do a hit/run or one hit + bleed or something.

covert birch
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^

cyan flame
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So the opening is used differently, and that's the point.

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You still have the same opening, you just act differently depending on what you are and what you hunt. As a rex, you can stay on the trike, as a giga, you can't, or shouldn't. You want the opening in both cases, so you can get that first hit in free.

plucky widget
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i see

covert birch
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@barren zephyr this is the place to comment on suggestions

barren zephyr
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I don't noitce that chanel, Sorry

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So Its not how starving animals looks like,
Thats how sick animasl looks like,
👀 Thats disturbing cruel and worth it to delete before a mod saw it,

sonic cloud
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^Thats pretty messed up

barren zephyr
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Nice Blue but you need to eat those eggs that have a baby inside raw bacuse beside its more tasty it would fit to the Isle style,

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Eating half developed dinosaurs babies,

covert birch
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I mean, i doubt there will be a dub egg mechanic

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so all eggs will have "babies" in them

barren zephyr
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But as a yellow white mess not as and embrio or what ever English call alkio,

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Now eggs are spawnpoints in the game,

plucky widget
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wait whats Ovi

paper oriole
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I was thinking apex males would be encouraged to kill/eat ither males along with offspring that isnt theres

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Oviraptor

covert birch
plucky widget
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oh

barren zephyr
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Oviraptor an Omivore raptor

plucky widget
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is that new?

paper oriole
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Ya

plucky widget
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i havent seen this

barren zephyr
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Kind of

plucky widget
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dang looks. cool

paper oriole
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Check phase 2 channel lots of stuff there

barren zephyr
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Its been in concept for a while,

left nacelle
pale sorrel
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@plucky widget That one

barren zephyr
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Now Ovi is a fix concept,

plucky widget
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id keep an eye on it

slow stream
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uhh

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idk but I doubt that starving dinosaur suggestion is allowed here..

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uh..

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<@&401466542140817419>

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there's a really uncomfortably cruel-lookin' pic for a suggestion

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many apologies if it's somehow allowed-

somber parrot
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👍🏽

slow stream
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many thanks-

covert birch
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@barren zephyr
1: Territory systerm as a whole is uneeded imo, especially since a player can replicate it ingame without actually taking the time to build it,
2: the whole certain animals prefer certain biomes will be happening with preferred food as a mechanic, herbis will go in mass to areas their preferred food is in mass, carnis will follow their preferred herbi a majority of the time to these areas
3: whole stamina thing is really uneeded imo, let a player go where they please, they already face the issues following preferred food n other stuff
4: Apex AI is confirmed
5: Scent system is being reworked (they showed a bit of it in #phase-two-archive)
6: Nightvision system is confirmed for a rework, we dont know what said rework is tho
7: Limiting apexs per map on a hard number leads to many gameplay issues which devs have gone over already

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Preferred prey is already confirmed for benefits within a nutritional system

left nacelle
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Wait, they showed scent in phase 2? When?

covert birch
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scroll up a bit
They did a test for it

covert birch
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@loud owl utah will be getting a cosmetic option to be feathered in the future

loud owl
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Ok

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@molten tangle not a bad idea

molten tangle
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thts more hype for da game

left nacelle
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@molten tangle Floods are most likely happening, and forest fires have been shown in the past but idk if they're still happening

icy lion
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forest fires caused tons of problems for the engine but theyre not necessarily impossible, technically. i know we're having tides but idk about true floods. id like them

left nacelle
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Well water levels will raise and lower. Not doing floods seems like a missed opportunity

icy lion
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yea, i think the issue from there might be foliage? itd be a bit awkward if half a tree was underwater but the branches werent weighed/affected by the water

left nacelle
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I don't see that being awkward

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Especially if the water doesn't even go up to the tree's branches

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I doubt it would go that high anyway

icy lion
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i guess im just nitpicky lmao. floods would be so nice

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lets hope it doesnt also cause server issues, but i dont see why it would

left nacelle
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Yeah. Floods would be hype af

molten tangle
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and winter

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snow storms

indigo sun
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Meh, its a tropical island

molten tangle
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o

indigo sun
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Snow storms generally dont happen on thsose unless something got mega fucked up

covert birch
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There will be biodomes n such in other maps with snow
There can possibly be snow storms or something inside

icy lion
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if the mountains are tall enough id like snow but only at the peaks. snow (the weather) wouldnt make sense

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a biodome map would be insanely cool

covert birch
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dondi compared it to evolve biodomes, which were fucking massive

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Like the singular map wasnt
But the building in and out itself, was huge n expansive

icy lion
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ive actually been playing a bit of evolve recently, its my fav map. with how big the isle maps are id love to see their take on it

covert birch
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sad evolve did a dead

molten tangle
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he can atleast add volcanos

covert birch
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There will be a volcano on thenyaw
But it wont explode

molten tangle
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tht sucks it could be like the ending on jurassic world 2

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or sum like tht

strange wave
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@crude crow already confirmed, and maybe give some depth other than "frogs"

crude crow
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Frogs @strange wave

icy lion
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:/

covert birch
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Frogs

crude crow
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🐸

icy lion
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gimme some chunky fuckin boys to munch. having poison frogs would be cool too

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the issue is that theyre so small

covert birch
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Gimme this chad too

crude crow
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Frogs confirmed where?

covert birch
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Frogs confirmed where?
@crude crow dondi said he wants frogs

icy lion
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having them as actual ai would be.... rough

covert birch
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well super with only 50 player servers seems like they going with the mega amounts of ai route

icy lion
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making them like an animated meat bush might be better server wise but its certainly less interesting

crude crow
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No we just want lil frogs we can see near water

icy lion
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ahh you mean like ambiance

crude crow
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It’s the little things

covert birch
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Edible ambiance

icy lion
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this is why you gotta type out your discussions lul

covert birch
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The bugger had head armor, and a bite around as strong to modern big cats

icy lion
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beelze id like as a legit ai, since compys about that big too

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imagine the fat fucking croaks from those things

covert birch
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Nah they wouldnt croak

icy lion
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even better

covert birch
icy lion
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budgett's frog right?

covert birch
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ye

paper oriole
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With rex's bite force, i feel he'd rather crush the spine or throat of an animal than take the time choking it

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Of the 4 listed there allo and mono seem more fitting

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Unless carno fills the role of a sort of bulldog grabbing the snout with his short face and trying to endure the thrashing of the target, that would look kinda ridiculous

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Carno is more of a small prey hunter

strange wave
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what is it with people wanting winter on a tropical island

paper oriole
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ikr

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wet and dry seasons are all we need

night sand
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With rex's bite force, i feel he'd rather crush the spine or throat of an animal than take the time choking it
@paper oriole that is true, but for the sub stage it could work bc it doesnt quite yet have the bite force

paper oriole
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hmn yeah sub rex, and alberto, could use it

night sand
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Id have to see the teeth alberto has

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Yea, more than capable of choking

paper oriole
pulsar lake
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Apexes can also choke

cinder mica
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yu knwo

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*know

cinder mica
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spino do be deep throating with arms

pulsar lake
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I mean

cinder mica
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i see

random imp
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feathers will be an option

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so you'll be able to play the "gen3" utah

plucky widget
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@night sand i find it weird that carno will choke

valid zephyr
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I'm hoping gen 1 utah appears as a skin option too.

plucky widget
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its jaw is very small and not very strong teeth