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#general-feedback-discussion
barren zephyr
dire wolf even if it not a dino
indigo sun
no mammals besides humans though
barren zephyr
i know you expected me to say Yutyrannus
indigo sun
fuck yutyrannus
barren zephyr
but why is it forbidden?
left nacelle
This guy earlier today made a long paragraph about yutyrannus
barren zephyr
Nikson?
left nacelle
he deleted it and reposted it like 7 times
indigo sun
yeah
left nacelle
Yeah
barren zephyr
my little brother really did that
left nacelle
@marble flame The DNA thing is being used for Perks iirc
Plus that suggestion sounds too much like Beasts of Bermuda
indigo sun
the skill thing in flame's suggestion could probably just be perks, but also certain things like nightvision and speed and other stats should probably not be something changable as that can severely affect the playstyle of a dinosaur
things like being able to sniff and have a wider range though sounds decent
left nacelle
The whole second paragraph lmao
marble flame
O h
barren zephyr
so what dino do i talk about?
opaque blaze
barren zephyr
megalosaurus?
marble flame
Might as well delete the suggestion XD
left nacelle
Yeah. I don't think too many people will like the top paragraph either lol
Lots of people suggest a mating call alone and people don't like it soooo
marble flame
Mhm
barren zephyr
the only dino that is in my head are Yutyrannus and Megalosaurus i don't know if you guys would love to see a suggestion about the Megalosaurus and/or Yutyrannus
marble flame
Id be interested in playing as a smaller dino
indigo sun
What was the top paragraph again, flame?
covert birch
the only dino that is in my head are Yutyrannus and Megalosaurus i don't know if you guys would love to see a suggestion about the Megalosaurus and/or Yutyrannus
Ide avoid yuty since we had to explain a guy a couple hours ago multiple times about how its practically a smaller allo clone
Idk much bout megalo so ya do you
barren zephyr
so if my little brother didn't put a Yutyrannus suggestion like 12 000000 time you guys would be interested in it?
covert birch
No
barren zephyr
that guys was my little brother
indigo sun
Well i didnt like the idea anyway, its interesting but it isnt unique enough
covert birch
Doesnt matter if he is your lil brother or not
Yutyrannus brings nothing new to the table and would best to be a skin
barren zephyr
so don't be to rude at him
covert birch
nobody was being rude, we just had to explain to him repeatedly how it didnt work
left nacelle
There was one guy a while ago who made a pretty good yuty suggestion iirc
barren zephyr
There was one guy a while ago who made a pretty good yuty suggestion iirc
@left nacelle who was it?
left nacelle
I'm gonna try and find it
covert birch
WAsnt it the ambush pred yuty suggestion?
barren zephyr
man i really want to see the Yutyrannus in the game but why i mean why you guys don't want it?
covert birch
barren zephyr
and what about a Megalosaurus suggestion?
covert birch
man i really want to see the Yutyrannus in the game but why i mean why you guys don't want it?
Not a unique animal
Doesnt bring anything new to the table
left nacelle
Yeah Blue (The other one) found it before me
marble flame
What about a microraptor?
indigo sun
Its pretty much a smaller feathered allo
left nacelle
Microraptor is waaaay too tiny
covert birch
Microraptor is too small for the game imo
Something like zhenyuanlong or changyuraptor fit well tho
ebon tiger
it's not that we don't want Yutyrannus, it's just that atm, it doesn't really have anything unique that isn't already covered by another dino
indigo sun
Better things could be used, like what blue said
ebon tiger
also, Microraptor's the same size as Compy
left nacelle
@opaque blaze What do you mean slow animation?
ebon tiger
so if Compy can be added, i don't see why Microraptor can't
covert birch
As ai sure
unborn quail
good thing I have this now
opaque blaze
When you stop drinking, the dino is (relatively) slow to move away from the water. If a Deino charges, you should be able to get away asap
barren zephyr
omg his Yutyrannus suggestion was amazing
so @unborn quail what is the green dino?
unborn quail
Yuty
marble flame
Id like a microraptor to glide down from branches and ambush small dinos but avoid larger dinos die to easily being killed
covert birch
The green is yuty
left nacelle
I haven't noticed that the animation's slow. I've always been able to run right away
barren zephyr
ah ok yeah i knew the Yuty was a little bit smaller than the allo
covert birch
But personally microraptor is too small to be a playable glider
Zhenyuan or changyu fir the size bill mutch better imo
marble flame
As an ai i mean
opaque blaze
Might be lag, then
barren zephyr
the Yuty is not that small from the allo, it bigger than the cerato
covert birch
Cerial, its bigger than cerato in that chart
barren zephyr
it a little bit bigger than cerato and a little bit smaller than allo
indigo sun
Zhenyuan could properly ambush other animals if thats what you want. Micro couldnt ambush anything bigger than a bug
covert birch
^
barren zephyr
Blue my name is Cerial box not Cerial
unborn quail
2800kg vs 1500kg, it's closer to cerato than allo
barren zephyr
i prefer Cerial box
marble flame
And thats why i want bugs and frogs
opaque blaze
Damn, Yuty was tiny...
unborn quail
probably closer to 1300kg but, give it a bit more
and no
Alberto is bigger than it
opaque blaze
Too much ARK, I guess...
barren zephyr
yeah i know the isle sucho should be bigger than the alberto right?
unborn quail
Yes, alberto is also oversized in-game
barren zephyr
Too much ARK, I guess...
@opaque blaze ark Yutyrannus is way bigger than what i knew
i actually knew that the Yuty was most likely a bary sized but not that giant
opaque blaze
I didn't đ
unborn quail
Bary
covert birch
You dontn eed to copy and paste it
barren zephyr
so you want me to delete it?
covert birch
and while the suggestion is interesting it just seems like bary with stat variations and nocturnal
barren zephyr
it kind of the bary stats yeah but with more attack so yeah
covert birch
Its bary, but bigger
Especially with that claw stuff
And nocturnal-ish
opaque blaze
How is that different enough from Allo/Cera?
barren zephyr
i don't understand how could a Yuty can do a claw attack
unborn quail
It has large arms
opaque blaze
That's an Allo move
barren zephyr
i mean look at this
unborn quail
Allo move is grapple
covert birch
Doesnt matter waht it looks like
unborn quail
Theoretically, it would be a similar move to bary/sucho, jsut a jab or slap
but
still an unneeded animal
covert birch
Like that one suggestion to me is noctunal bary with higher stats
barren zephyr
ah yes i didn't saw that his arms were bigger, my bad
covert birch
Its an animal which doesnt server a purpose or bring anything unique to the table
Like if cerato didnt exist i can see it functioning possibly
barren zephyr
ok ok guys let it have a chance if the Yutyrannus come in the game later let it have a chance atleast it a different gameplay
covert birch
what
barren zephyr
you guys don't want it to come in the game that why im saying never mind
covert birch
An animal which brings nothing unique to the table wont have a chance, as a skin it functions plenty fine
opaque blaze
We're getting at most 50 peeps per server with EVRIMA. Populations are bound to get spread as is
covert birch
paradym did recently mention on the 50 isnt fully decided on
opaque blaze
Oh thank god... I think...
barren zephyr
yeah it can have a chance if you play it well
covert birch
You cant play an animal well, which has no functionality due to not happening cuz it doesnt bring anything unique to the table
Lemme grab a video real quick
barren zephyr
nothing ? atleast a new dino to play as it stronger than the utah so it not useless
stronger than the cerato so it not useless
covert birch
Replace tarbosaurus with yutyrannus
And replace tyrannosaurus with allosaurus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I0XTzZLZfA
barren zephyr
ah yes this one it so funny
vestal rune
wouldn't it be alberto and not allo?
covert birch
Nah it actually has arms unlike alberto
vestal rune
ah that's true
barren zephyr
but im not replacing the tarbo by the Yuty because the tarbo want dondi to put them in the isle then he said why not why not spending 7k or more on a rex clone
covert birch
Cerial
I was comparing your arguement for yuty
To the tarbo arguement
The animal is a small version of an already ingame animal with a size disparity that isnt large enough to justify its position
barren zephyr
yeah yeah i know
covert birch
Then what are you trying to get at then?
With the whole chance thing
viral creek
Yutyrannus. AKA: Fursuit allosaurus.
barren zephyr
but it bigger than the cerato and also stronger so it can justify his position in the mid or pseudo mid tier as it stronger than the cerato
covert birch
yes gulpy we covered that
viral creek
Saying it again for all the people in the back
covert birch
Psuedo mid tier that is stronger than cerato doesnt instantly mean you should add it
paper oriole
Somebody a while back made a kinda decent idea for yutyrannus as a nocturnal glass cannon ambusher
slow snow
Yea if both players sit there and face tank, the Rex will win. However most fights donât work like that and Rex often loses from what Iâve seen.
covert birch
While the nocturnal glass cannon ambusher is interesting
Just seems like a nocturnal bary to me
barren zephyr
yeah i can beat a rex with a cerato
paper oriole
Bary is a fisher tho
covert birch
Bary is much more land oriented then other spinosaurids
slow snow
Iâm talking about the trike suggestion, cerial
paper oriole
Their suggestion was for yut to be a nocturnal glass cannon crusher (for smaller tier), bary likely would deal bleed
barren zephyr
but if they would of put the Yutyrannus in the game put it with more weight than the cerato because in the game the cerato have like 2 tons weight so put the Yutyrannus with more healt
covert birch
I was comparing the claw attack buff
slow snow
Also yuty is being talked about again?
slow snow
Why
barren zephyr
ok let stop then
barren zephyr
ah yes Megalosaurus i put it as a suggestion?
i don't know is it smaller than Yuty i think so?
covert birch
How is megalosaurus a unique creature that would be worthwhile to add to the game
Via unique gameplay, unique mechanics, and niche within its tier
barren zephyr
i don't know
less healt than cerato but more healt than bary more attack than cerato faster than cerato
clearly nocturnal
barren zephyr
slow snow
^
paper oriole
barren zephyr
so nocturnal, bigger than allo faster than cerato stronger than cerato utah bleed,
covert birch
Bigger than allo?
barren zephyr
grab mechanichs
paper oriole
It would just invalidate cerato
barren zephyr
i think it bigger
covert birch
Its smaller
weight tho idk about megalo
But yea it falls under a similar boat to yuty imo
covert birch
"David Bruce Norman in 1984 thought Megalosaurus was seven to eight metres long.[33] Gregory S. Paul in 1988 estimated the weight tentatively at 1.1 tonnes, given a thighbone seventy-six centimetres long.[34] "
barren zephyr
so megalosaurus is allo sized?
barren zephyr
So, Iâm gonna guess dinosaur suggestions arenât the best, but hereâs my idea for one of my favorite dinos:
the Megalosaurus comes to The Isle! As the T-Rexâs smaller, (minus the head, hands and lower legs) Chinese ancestor, it would be cool to see this
Design: Megalosaurus
would be different determined on its sex.The males would have head plumage, and a flared tail tip, as well as brighter colors in those areas, as well as in their flanks and arm feathers, and their head crest would be bright as well. Females would be duller, and lack this extra plumage, but would have stuff like spots or stripes. However theyâd be the same size. I wonât go into the entire palette, but the males would have colors like red, orange, yellow and even green in their bright, appealing plumage, but the base colors for both would be grey, black, or brown, with grey or tan scales.
Stats (Full Grown);
Diet- Carnivorous
Base Damage- 330
Alternate Attack- A bite that does 330 base damage, and inflicts bleed more frequently*
Health- 3000*
Mass-2750 KG
Speed- 37.2 Km/H
Ambush- 42.8 Km/H
Sprint Duration- 1,25 minutes
Base Bleed- 9
Growth Time- 375 minutes
Mechanics:
Night Vision- Megalosaurus wouldnât have the best night vision, but would have better than most, seeing a descent distance, approximately 3 / 4 distance that Dilo can see.
Unlike most carnivores, bleeding isnât guaranteed for Megalosaurus, no, instead, its bite only have a chance to inflict bleed, approximately 20% per attack. However itâs claw swipe doubles the chance of bleeding, for a weaker attack.
Megalosaurus also give it a unique perk, being that it has slightly more health than its mass, so it doesnât immediately get decked.
paper oriole
Yeah that one
I thought it was pretty decent suggestion
Well the one for yutyrannus that was like that lol oof
Imma have to read that
barren zephyr
i edited it for the Megalosaurus
covert birch
dont do that
thats just stealing a suggestion but just changing the name of the dino
paper oriole
Oof
barren zephyr
ok sorry
paper oriole
It did look a bit weird too lol some of the yuty suggestion was in there still makin it look messy
paper oriole
Should write up (from scratch) your stats ideas and stuff in suggestions
See you then
paper oriole
allosaurus fragillis (our allo) is a bii over 9 and a half meters long at the largest specimen, i think our in game allo is 30 feet give or take a couple, megalosaurus is 30 feet, but is about half a ton lighter
unborn quail
our Allosaurus, going by max size which is the plan going forward, is 9.7m(32ft) and somewhere between 2600-2800kg
Megalosaurus is 9m and 1900kg
paper oriole
so megalo would basicallt just be weaker allo, yeah
could maybe work as a skin
if anything
indigo sun
@scarlet steeple right now? incredibly low because theyve got like 14 animals lined up currently
scarlet steeple
@indigo sun thanks. I was also wanting to ask the dev team if there on here
indigo sun
they generally dont talk to us all that much about suggestions. Dondi said a couple hours ago he didnt care about dino suggestions right now
paper oriole
i wouldnt say the likelyhood is made any lower by the 14 new animals coming, but it is basically a given that any animal suggestions they actually like wont be considered for the near future
strange wave
but it is harder to make the animals worth while to add to the game with over 14 new animals with unique mechanics
paper oriole
if the niches are filled, yea
if they arent, they'd still probably finish all their currently planned dinos before adding any suggested ones they like, hard to make suggestions atm without knowing all the niches and roles being filled lol
covert birch
@paper oriole isnt that basically what pinned suggestions are?
paper oriole
well kinda, but a lot of people dont look at pins lol (and they havent pinned anything in a while, but maybe they just dont liek the suggestions of late)
covert birch
well people prolly havent looked at pins since there hasnt been anything pinned in a bit
Plus lots of suggestions recently are all â˛ď¸ stuff
or dinos suggestions which they said recently they arent producing any more new dinos atm
Hell dondi commented on it in general a bit earlier today
Saying nobody cares about dino suggestions rn
paper oriole
true, though there could be a few good peanuts lost in the manure pile of suggestions for things already coming or people wanting their fave dino in the game
a channel where the gems the devs like go would be nice, sort of like a "hint hint" for things that are or might be coming that arent listed in phase 2
covert birch
Yea would be cool for more interaction from devs suggestion wise
But pinned suggestions can function the exact same way as a whole other channel
@barren zephyr stego doesnt really need a stomp since the tail whip almost reaches in front of it
paper oriole
hmn if they put their response under each suggestion saved in the archive though it could be something nice
indigo sun
they can just like, turn. they shouldnt have any issue defending themselves with their tail
covert birch
A response section to specifically good suggestions would be cool
they can just like, turn. they shouldnt have any issue defending themselves with their tail
^
paper oriole
and yeah stego is fine with colission damage on its spikes and tail whip
a stomp would probably look weird too honestly
covert birch
Imo only tail bois (outside of sauropods) who need a frontal attack would be like minmi and anky
Minmi doing like a bite type thing and anky doing a lil headbutt like tortoises
honest sparrow
yeah stego can turn hella easily
covert birch
honest sparrow
if you get caught off guard as stego from the front, you deserve to die
indigo sun
that is the cutest shit i have ever seen
covert birch
Theres a shitton of vids of turtles headbutting stuff
honest sparrow
minmi headbutt is so adorable
honest sparrow
aight
covert birch
Its like the exact same shape as the beak of softshell turtles
honest sparrow
look at it go
opaque blaze
That headbutt is a mating ritual
barren zephyr
@covert birch u should totally suggest minmi have a headbut like a turtle
still temple
give headbutt to Minmi as social fighting, since that's confirmed now
also, gib minmi fluttering as a part of the social mechanics or sth
opaque blaze
Imagine Theri doing that
covert birch
@barren zephyr while i love the call ideas they confimed mercs will be doing hand signals instead of calls
barren zephyr
NOOOOO FUCK
covert birch
PRolly something similar will happen to tribals
barren zephyr
Fuck it Im leaving it, incase they ever reconsider
covert birch
XD
covert birch
next we need a steve irwin skin
strange wave
500% melee damage increase to deinosuchus
opaque blaze
Well, you got my vote
strange wave
@sleek ingot small problem with that, skin customization
sleek ingot
Then it could be limited to darker colorations only
covert birch
@sleek ingot that basically is either megalania venom or dilo venom (if they take megalania going down the realistic route that is)
But that is what dilo's high bleed is meant to replicate until they actually add proper venom systems
sleek ingot
I figured that for Dilo
But again, anticoagulant works different than venom
Not nearly as dangerous but it wouldn't be anything to shrug off
covert birch
Sure htey are dangerous, but an animal practically has that function already
sleek ingot
I've been bitten by water snakes, which have anticoagulants. They are not venomous but it's a hell lot of bleeding.
Idk, just throwing out the possibility of a new animal and anticoagulants
covert birch
And while i do love part one of the suggestion
Imo there are more unique looking animals which can fit in that niche
sleek ingot
True
covert birch
Like prestosuchus or something can fit their pretty efficiently imo
While being an actual quad land carni
sleek ingot
I thought it needed more than being a grim reaper to anything smaller than it however
covert birch
I mean specifically targetting small stuff is basically what dondi described cerato and carno will be doing
so that in itself isnt gonna bring anything new to the table
sleek ingot
Just a thought:(
It figures though
Nothing would make it all that unique
But I mean it could at least look cool
simple wasp
don't worry snek u aren't the only one Blue shut down XD
sleek ingot
We don't know much about it's appearance due to a lack of fossils, so any sorts of dewlaps and crests wouldn't be implausible
covert birch
Iirc that animal is just a smaller acro family wise
covert birch
Also parasyte an animal that specifically feeds on bits of food in deinos mouth is too specific of a food source
simple wasp
no
covert birch
wouldnt really be reliable especially since deino, who is an apex wont be too common
sleek ingot
Alright well they did make a rugops model, I'm sure it could have better befitting gameplay
simple wasp
theres a flying dino that hunts fish and will sometimes eats scraps in apex teeth
sleek ingot
I'm sad they scrapped it however
simple wasp
I forgot wat its called though
covert birch
Most of the old dinos are shelved now
sleek ingot
Pterosaurs
covert birch
They may come out if the devs want
simple wasp
and that's why I said he will get little food
sleek ingot
Well what about Pachyrhinosaurus
covert birch
Pachyrhino is one of em
covert birch
Mono, kentro, compy are all examples of what can happen to other old animals
sleek ingot
Compy and Kentro are confirmed are they not?
covert birch
All 3 i just mentioned are confirmed
sleek ingot
What is Mono gonna bring
covert birch
Idk
simple wasp
and deino is confirmed I think
sleek ingot
It's similar to Dilophosaurus lol
covert birch
its just fresh adult dilo size wise
Deino is confirmed yes parasyte
Mono i can see taking up that honey badger niche we lack
sleek ingot
Deinosuchus or Deinocherius
simple wasp
suchus
sleek ingot
Well supposedly Ceratosaurus is the "Honey badger" but I always flee at the first sign of trouble
simple wasp
about compy size
covert birch
Yea no
simple wasp
smaller than pteradon
covert birch
Keep that stuff on ai
sleek ingot
Do you mean Ramphorynchus
covert birch
Rhamp is too small to be a playable creature imo
sleek ingot
The plausibility for it to go to the jaws of another dinosaur is low
covert birch
Smallest flyer we should get to is like dimorphodon
covert birch
also snek cerato is meant to be more hyena like iirc
simple wasp
well the flyer is pretty much a cleaner
covert birch
Turns out thats a myth snek
sleek ingot
They actually have no real symbiotic relationship
sleek ingot
The crocs don't need their teeth cleaned, they just tolerate the birds as they are not worth consuming
simple wasp
they get stuff like ticks
covert birch
yea thats it parasyte
They get parasites in the crocs mouth
Not lil bits of leftovers
sleek ingot
I knownits a myth blue, that's why I brought it up
Know*
And more or less thats just because the croc will tolerate them
covert birch
But yea continuing
Imo there shouldnt be any flying equivalent to compy
At least size wise
sleek ingot
If the bird were to enter too far into the jaws then I wouldn't be surprised if the croc attempted to swallow it lol
covert birch
cuz then why tf would one person pick compy over compy who can fly
Literally invalidates one animal right there
simple wasp
well the devs are talking about how they want to cover as many playstyles as possible
covert birch
Pterosaur who is practically a flying compy*
covert birch
I mean
simple wasp
XD
sleek ingot
That some is the weird some
covert birch
Imo that should be kept under the ambient ai list
sleek ingot
Any guesses on what's gonna make Albertosaurus unique
covert birch
Smallest flyer we should get personally i think would function like a lil vampire bat or oxpecker
Dondi just said he has a unique mechanic planned
Then left
covert birch
yes
covert birch
Deino has deathrolling as part of the eating anim
So why wouldnt it use that to eat while swimmin
simple wasp
well its a game
they might not be able to add the mechanic
so that's why I was wondering
sleek ingot
Also I feel like they should let Ceratosaurus somewhat benefit from eating fish
covert birch
Also on the albert thing i got multiple mechanics that i personally think can fit for it
Like one was making it a pursuit pred who bites at the legs of running prey to trip em up and drain stam
Nah snek
covert birch
Sure irl it did
But bary exists
sleek ingot
There's no word on Baryonyx which upsets me
covert birch
There was that one stream
simple wasp
I know cera would eat a fish but I don't think it would hunt it
sleek ingot
Regardless I will still consume fish as Cerato
covert birch
all carnis will be able to fish
just some better than others
Its like
Rex just runs into the water to try and bite the fish
Sucho actually fishes properly bear style
simple wasp
imagine how scary a pue would be as a carnivore
simple wasp
but has a long ass neck
sleek ingot
Well there was a former theory Ceratosaurus was semi aquatic, but that's debunked. However, it catching fish is not necessarily. Studies on Ceratosaurus dentition show that they are remarkably similar to Baryonychine Spinosaurs. That and the swampy environment it lived in, Ceratosaurus very well could have been a generalist on aquatic prey and terrestrial prey.
simple wasp
well most herbivores had a little protein in there life
sleek ingot
And with all the shed teeth found by lungfish, turtles and crocodilforms I wouldn't be surprised if it did favor them.
covert birch
Like cerato imo should be able to eat anything without drawbacks
But it shouldnt be a fisher or prefer that food at least
Like hyena-like cerato who is a endurance hunter/scavenger
Who has an iron stomach and good tracking capabilites
is what i want personally
brazen dew
ok
sleek ingot
It wouldn't have to prefer it per say, it should just be a bit more efficient at catching them. Not Spinosaur efficient but something more efficient than Allosaurus.
covert birch
Well we dont really know how they will make spino, sucho, etc actually better at fishing then others
we just know that they will
sleek ingot
From a slightly more realistic point of view, Tyrannosaurus and Albertosaurus would have the strongest sense of smell to track prey.
covert birch
So cant really say make X slightly more effective without knowing what makes the best fishers the best at it
paper oriole
spinosaurids will probably be able to wade through water and walk along the edge without scaring fish away as easily, compared to a rex
would be a good way to make it easier for them to fish
like rex would stamp into a stream and all the fish would gtfo
covert birch
Yes realistically rex would be a great tracker
But ingame i dont see an ambush predator needing it much
Iirc way back there was mention of a minigame for fishing
simple wasp
well Spinosaurus was huge so the fish could be a little bit away and the spino can still grab it
sleek ingot
It saddens me, Cerato could be a partial Fisher, but nobody wants it
The real Ceratosaurus would not approve lol
paper oriole
what if cerato ate turtles and dug up shellfish, and took advantage of shrinking water sources which will be a thing
simple wasp
I think cera would be there to follow something like a carno or alberto then take there kill
covert birch
That would function well buff
sleek ingot
I'm sorry
covert birch
Cerato being good at digging up stuff
sleek ingot
Ceratosaurus stealing a kill from Albertosaurus
covert birch
Burrows, shellfsih, etc
sleek ingot
Not likely
covert birch
A gang of ceratos can steal it
simple wasp
well like blue said there like hyenas
covert birch
thats how i want them personally
simple wasp
and hyenas take kills from lions with numbers
paper oriole
cerato doesnt need to be stronger than the animals it's bullying, necessarily
see they could give him a necrotic bite that will make things not want to fuck with it even if they can kill it
sleek ingot
Even as a Ceratosaurus in a pack of 3 I wouldn't dare mess with an Albertosaur
paper oriole
since he eats rotten meat
covert birch
a pack of 3 i can see messing up an alberto
Especially since alberto is smaller than allo
Weight wise that is
paper oriole
cera would bully like hyenas do to lions at times
covert birch
Hyena would be viable alone
But a very efficient pred who can gang up on people in groups
sleek ingot
Ceratosaurus is quite a bit smaller than Albertosaurus anyways. Carno I can see Cerato bullying, Alberto, no. If anything Albertosaurus is gonna be the main bully of the mid sized carnivores.
covert birch
Not at all
Sucho will be what bullys miditer
Alberto is more along the lines of allo
sleek ingot
Is Sucho considered a mid tier
covert birch
Especially when you consider max irl sizes are confirmed
Sucho = psuedo apex
just like how cerato = psuedo midtier
sleek ingot
Yeah, an Allo that's faster with a hell of a bite, lmao
simple wasp
well a lion can easily kill a hyena but u kinda see hyenas killing lions with numbers
covert birch
Remember current stats dont matter whatsoever
paper oriole
depends on how they rework albert
he will still likely have a powerful bite, but he could turn into a glass cannon crusher who can be bullied with clever gameplay
covert birch
And remember that alberto is only so large due to a bug that also affects herra anky and acro
sleek ingot
Iirc Spinosaurs will mostly depend on their claws, and if limb ripping and decapitation is a thing at some point, good luck to all the Suchos who get their arms ripped off by Albertos and anything bigger
covert birch
limb ripping isnt happening
sleek ingot
Rip
covert birch
and again
Allo is 2.8 tons
Albert is like 2.5 iirc
Sucho is a godly 4.5
sleek ingot
While yes I think a Suchomimus could fend off an Allosaur or Albertosaur, I don't really see it at standards to easily killing it per say
covert birch
Sucho will kill it easily
Hunting them is the pain
paper oriole
if it got a broadside it could probably barrel it over, using its arms as leverage
then go at it while its on the ground
since speen is said to be able to flip things over before, sucho could probably pull this off
sleek ingot
Again, if it's going to be a fish eater, it realistically should be more worried about fending them off then bringing them down, which gives the claws a fair purpose.
covert birch
Sucho being almost 2x heavier than the other 2
With claws that can do heavy harm
I can see very easily killing alberto or allo easily
Especially when you consider max realistic sizes are confirmed
Yes sucho would be 10x more defensive, but it should still be killing them efficiently when an encounter happens
sleek ingot
I suppose
covert birch
And if it decides to scare them off corpses n such
sleek ingot
Idk, I just don't see Spinosaurs as killers. The only thing Suchomimus has going is its size. None of its adaptations are really suited to killing other dinosaurs.
paper oriole
assuming it'll still be a good amount slower than things like allo and alberto, it would only be able to use its power in defense
not offense
covert birch
Spinosaurids are plenty killers
While sucho specifically is a bad example
Baryonyx is a great example of one that can be aggresisive
especially since bary is a more terrestrial focused spinosaurid
sleek ingot
It's like the whole debate with Spinosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus. The two animals lived in the same location and had no reason to fight, but even if they did, the Spinosaurus is out of its league.
Yeah Baryonyx is more or less terrestrial, but it still wouldn't be in direct competition with Neovenator per say.
covert birch
Like spinosaurids i see this
Bary: Runs shit down n claws at em, fishes every so often
Sucho: Big defensive bully to midtiers, generally stays on land or shallows, fish main staple of diet
Spino: adaptable to situation, (been described as a go where ya want apex), just like the playable the diet is variable
sleek ingot
Yeah seems fair
But again, from what we know of Baryonyx, it mostly ate fish, and the juvenile iguanodon bones found in its stomach could very easily have been the result of scavenging.
covert birch
Yea but gameplay wise putting bary and sucho as mainly aquatic animals
With deino and spino existing
Ain't a good idea
sleek ingot
Could it have killed a juvenile iguanodon, sure. Would hunting adult Iguanodons be a good idea for it? Absolutely not lol.
covert birch
Oh ofc not
covert birch
Bary at max ingame would hunt teno
sleek ingot
And if the upper estimated for Neovenator are correct, it would also outcompete Baryonyx
covert birch
I mean wasnt there a new bary bone pushing it up yo allo sizes
sleek ingot
I absolutely love what they did with Tenontosaurus
covert birch
Teno is a great pick
sleek ingot
It's always shown as fodder but now they make it kick ass
covert birch
Had a long tail irl
They took that and made it beautiful
sleek ingot
And about Baryonyx size
Yes it was
And while Neovenator is smaller than Allosaurus
If the suspected bones they found do belong to it
It would be as large or larger than Allosaurus
Speaking of Iguanodon, I'm sure it could fit in the isle well
covert birch
Iguano is a very commonly suggested animal
And mostly agreed it fits ingame well
sleek ingot
It would be a para with better damage lmao
covert birch
Except for a couple few naysayers
Make para actually a runner
Then gimme some wrestler iguanadon
sleek ingot
RIP Ceratosaurus lmao
covert birch
Bary doesnt have the new bone there tho
sleek ingot
About it's upper estimates?
covert birch
Yea
sleek ingot
Ah
covert birch
That bary in the chart uses older ones iirc
sleek ingot
Well I'm sure that will be looked into
covert birch
Gotta ask nova again
sleek ingot
Which would you think would be faster in reality and I suppose in game eventually
Allo or Alberto
covert birch
Alberto prolly if it goes a similar route to rex
covert birch
All of them except cera do
sleek ingot
Also where was limb tearing confirmed to be canceled
sleek ingot
Ceratosaurus really shouldn't be much of a runner, should be more stealthy and rely on hiding and ambush to hunt and avoid predators
covert birch
Personally I like endurance hunter cerato
covert birch
I really enjoy the thought of
Cerato is the hyena to allos lion
sleek ingot
It would be a bit better if it gained benefits from fish more so than other terrestrials but that's ok because I can just chase fish all I want in the game when it happens lmao
Then what is Alberto lol, the tiger
covert birch
Alberto is another lion
covert birch
Allo and Albert fit the same place but do it in diff manners
No not really
Allo vs Albert is a 50/50 imo
One has a high bite force, lower weight and lacks claws
One has a medium biteforce higher weight and has claws
sleek ingot
I mean I usually see it as a 50 50, but in a sense I kinds give it to Albertosaurus more since it was a more advanced predator
covert birch
By claws I mean usable arms
sleek ingot
Yeah
And by advanced it doesn't necessarily mean a better fighter, but as a dinosaur build itself, it was more advanced than the primitive Allosaurus
covert birch
Sure irl Albert was more evolved but ingame I see Albert vs allo like
They fill same role in the ecosystem, have diff manners of fulfilling that role via how they hunt n such
sleek ingot
Having more forward facing eyes for a better field of view, better sense of smell due to the olfactory bulbs, and in general, be a more intelligent animal. Of course none of this would dictate them fighting or competing.
Yeah
Agreed
They will be the main competitors to one another
covert birch
Yea and would be cool to have more competitors ingame
sleek ingot
The devs: Time to add Torvosaurus!
All the mid tier carnivores: !!!
covert birch
Like bary n cera I can see competiting for prey within a jungle area
There is a thing as too many competitors
sleek ingot
Yeah lol
covert birch
Imma hop of now
Gn
sleek ingot
Gn
paper oriole
That would basically just end up being a channel where people spam any cool landscape/nature pics they come across
Like those people who spam animal pics from facebook in pet channels
manic venture
hey a couple of cool landscape pictures don't hurt anyone
paper oriole
Ones that people put thought into yea those would be good to have a list of, sadly it would inevitably be clogged up with random pics of waterfalls and aerial forest scapes and stuff lol people cant control thrmselves
manic venture
so what?
paper oriole
Would be so cluttered itd end up being a pointless channel
But then again suggestions gets buried in âbuff this sandbox dinoâ and âfix this bug my rex died!!!â Every other day so guess it couldnt be worse lol
manic venture
might be pointless to you, or give inspiration to devs or mod makers. In the end its just a little channel, that you can mute if you don't like it, that has some pretty inspirational landscape ideas for maps.
paper oriole
Would maybe redirect those occasional suggestions that have 50 pictures of trees attached to them to their own channel i guess
paper oriole
Nocturnal: dryo, taco, diablo
Flyer: Tupandactylus
Semi-aquatics: larger sauropods who can walk the lakebeds, atopodentatus (he's pathetic and small tho lmao)
valid zephyr
pathetic and small is fine.
makes good food for carnivores
yeah dryo and dibble both suit as nocturnals imo.
paper oriole
If its real zoomy and agile in water it could work
valid zephyr
atop and desmata would be great semi aquatics
atop is water dryo.
perfect for bary and younger deinos to hunt
it feels a waste having all these water carnis, and barely any prey
apart from AI fish
valid zephyr
also irl most herbivores (at least in my country) are nocturnal. feels so wierd to not have a single nocturnal herbi in game.
also beip is an omni.
we need a good choice of omnis too, but it's kind of a different issue
paper oriole
Atopo could graze on sea/lake bed plants and hold its breath for very long periods
paper oriole
Be agile and quick on the seabed and clumsy on land
Yeah
He also looks unique which is a little plus
valid zephyr
desma would more be floating through shallower water scooping up water plants.
and it's as heavy as a utah, armoured, and got big spikes.
paper oriole
Desmata could blend in with muddy water and fuck your foot up when you step on it lmao
valid zephyr
also good deino and spino food
paper oriole
Could wallow in muddy water like a little hippo
valid zephyr
while being too tough for bary to kill easily
paper oriole
And as far as flyers go tupan is the only one i can really think of
valid zephyr
yeah tupan is an omni, but an omni flyer would be nice too
paper oriole
Yeah a flyer for each faction would be nice if possible
valid zephyr
it's in primal carnage, so it's already in lore.
paper oriole
And not have carni faction hogging all the niches
valid zephyr
it's as big as ptera, so it's not too small
tupan could both fish, and maybe eat fruit from trees
paper oriole
Tupan strikes me more as a hatchling/frog/bug eater than a fisher
valid zephyr
yeah it essentially feels like herbis get: sit in field during the day and run, or sit in field during the day and fight
paper oriole
Frogs and rodents if theyre added
valid zephyr
while carnis get a ton of fancy different roles and playstyles and environments
paper oriole
The herbi playerbase is vastly outnumbered and whenever a herd pops up it gets swamped by 50 rexes and gigas, herbis need some love
And something to tempt more people to play them
valid zephyr
Most of herbis current animals are fine imo. It's just that they have little variety of niche and environment
and yeah I feel even more people will move to carnivore when they get all these fancy aquatics and flyers
paper oriole
Some of them are crap compared to their carni counters, but yea its mostly that carnis are pampered with unique stuff herbis have yet to even see
Plus the little inconveniences like having to stop for 30sec to sniff loudly as fuck
valid zephyr
on top of all that, carnis will get a ton of strains too
I don't think herbis should get strains, but it's like icing on the top thing
carnis get a ton of unique niches, and get to turn into kaiju.
herbis eat grass in a field, but not at night, in the water, or in the air.
paper oriole
Yeah strains, unique fight mechanics like venom and the apparent utah animal targeting, sniff walk, nocturnal animals, all terrain options
People always jump in to say there's no carni bias in the dev team but what else could it be
valid zephyr
I'm not going to start throwing around bias accusations lol. It's how to ensure a suggestion is defo not accepted. 
paper oriole
I suppose lol
Hopefully one of those people who have the resources will make some badass herbi strain mods, not anthomnia obviously since he's obsessed with rex like everybody else
valid zephyr
I'm not a fan of strains so don't care that herbis arn't getting those.
it's the varied natural niches they have irl, but don't in the isle which bug me.
paper oriole
I cant think of any good herbi strains where they dont turn carnivorous or into pointless forest vacuuming behemoths but i'd like for them to have something to make up for it
Like titanic sauropods
valid zephyr
I'd really like to see cama and apato/bronto. As they're large enough to feel big. But not so large they're unhuntable.
paper oriole
Any sauro who would have to lower his neck to drink or eatwould be huntable to an extent, just some much harder than others
Maybe not going as far as the huge sauropods like argentino but something a trio of gigas would think twice about before attacking
pale sorrel
@valid zephyr Great idea!!
Maybe the Hypsilophodon could be the one to have venomous quills?
indigo sun
nah venomous quills doesnt feel like hypsi's thing, but i do like the basic idea of a herbivore having that, it's a very interesting thing to add some diversity
covert birch
Imo certain factions should have specific things exclusive to them to increase appeal
So like venom can stay for omnis/carnis specifically
But herbis and omnis can get poison
honest sparrow
taco has quills
covert birch
And idk if any purely herbivorous pterosaurs really existed
Closest thing to that were tapejaridae who were omnis
vestal rune
taco has bristles
valid zephyr
i'm not a fan of poison as it's just 'you bite it you get punished'
venomous quills can be avoided with skill
covert birch
Venomous quills just functions like an anky tail
But with venom instead of bb
Keep target behind ya and ya fine
valid zephyr
yeah I acknowledged there are no flying herbis. Though i'd like tupan as a flying omnivore.
venomous quills wouldn't have an attack mapped to it at all imo.
vestal rune
I don't really think we need a herbi version of each carni "niche"
I'd rather much have unique herbi gameplay that makes sense
valid zephyr
semi aquatics and nocturnals make the most sense
vestal rune
like venomous and dedicated nocturnal are much more suited for carnivores
valid zephyr
irl there is a ton or herbi swimmers and nocturnals
like every herbivore in my country is mainly nocturnal
not having herbivore nocturnals is awful
covert birch
Imo dryo should be nocturnal to keep the whole lookout theme of it
vestal rune
the reason I say nocturnal is better suited for carnivores is because it allows a carni a unique way of hunting
but I do think there should be herbivores who perform well at night with good nv
valid zephyr
also gives the carni nocturnals somthing active to hunt at night. rather than afk players
vestal rune
like dryo for example
valid zephyr
a herbi nocturnal would be suited to animals which would have no real way of surviving in the day imo.
dryo suits it too.
covert birch
Plus we dont really know what this new nightvision rework will be
So maybe more animals in general will see better at night
vestal rune
btw what dinosaur herbi would even suit semi-aquatic?
covert birch
Also returning to herbi flyers
Ik it doesnt really fit much irl wise
But heracles?
ide prefer it to be omni as a giant kea but there are other ways of making it unique and herbi
valid zephyr
desmatosuchus is best
covert birch
Desmtaosuchus im fine with as long as it dont invalidate minmi
valid zephyr
it's a utah sized herbivore crocodile with armour and spikes
vestal rune
well I don't think minmi is really meant to be semi-aquatic
just it performs better in the water then others
valid zephyr
even if your minmi got it, it's omnivore which makes it different
vestal rune
idk the way they commented on it was weird
covert birch
Minmi seems to be going down a sucho route
Lives near water to get some resource
Like plants, maybe nests there, etc
vestal rune
ye seems like it
valid zephyr
desma i'd like to see wading around shallower water sucking weeds into its bill.
would be very camoflagued in the water
atopodentatus is another potential, as a water dryo.
blue I know you prefer mouth 1 as an omni.
covert birch
Would be cool if mouth 1 or 2 were cosmetic options
And they made the animal omni as a base
valid zephyr
the mouth types would be textbook good cosmetics
vestal rune
mouth 1 and 2?
covert birch
atop had 2 mouths they believed were to be true
one is like a hammerhead platypis head
valid zephyr
covert birch
Hammer shaped duck bill*
And hte other is that image
valid zephyr
covert birch
Like this ingame would be a great boi
valid zephyr
The thing about these different carnivore niches like nocturnals and swimmers, is they make no sense if there is no food to hunt.
honest sparrow
no offense, but you two are really weird
covert birch
Thanks
valid zephyr
Dammit beat me!
vestal rune
they're weird?
honest sparrow
aight continue on then
covert birch
Normal people are the epitome of boring
honest sparrow
tis true
valid zephyr
we're talking about dinosaurs in a dino game forum.
we're all wierd
honest sparrow
also true
covert birch
but yea atop with cosmetic option of both mouths be đ
vestal rune
lurdu
covert birch
Plateo > oruano >>>>>>>>>>> lurdu
valid zephyr
lurdu is gross
desma opens up actual swimming and underwater gameplay in a different way to pure wading animals
wading plateo/para/shant/oruano/cheirus is similar to sucho or bary in a way.
getting their food from water, but not living in it
covert birch
wading bary 
valid zephyr
bary gets fish. needs to at least get its feet wet for that
covert birch
Terrestrial hunter bary who eats fish every so often > fisherman bary
valid zephyr
barys jaws look pretty clearly evolved for a mainly fish diet imo
cerato is basically the same size and is terrestrial hunter
covert birch
Ingame tho, with sucho, spino, deino, etc existing
Wouldnt really be a good idea to making bary just do what sucho does but smaller or stay in lakes for long periods with the big bois roaming
Imo making bary a terrestrial hunter, whos main diet is land animals but can get stuff from the water when foods low is best
valid zephyr
I'm really wondering what's planned for omnivores. We only have two confirmed omnis atm.
vestal rune
isn't that just small sucho though blue?
covert birch
Sucho is the exact opposite
Bary: Runs shit down n claws at em, fishes every so often
Sucho: Big defensive bully to midtiers, generally stays on land next to rivers or shallows, fish main staple of diet
Spino: adaptable to situation, (been described as a go where ya want apex), just like the playable the diet is variable
honest sparrow
austro: fuck you, it does everything
covert birch
Giant amazon river otter austro = chad austro
This but with austros and a sub deino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01iWx4476pY
vestal rune
ye I'm all for austro being a giant bird otter
strange wave
@potent ruin your not helping
potent ruin
I donât think it would effect it that much, just help unstucking yourself or somthing
It wouldnât be fast, I mean if I walk sideways Iâm slower than if I walked forward
strange wave
so have you tried holding A or hold D then just moving your camera
potent ruin
B?
Oh yeah, I think it should be like, hold e while standing still then press A or D to move side to side, or back
strange wave
i dont really understand what your trying to say with this
covert birch
Forget side stepping
add dark souls rolling
potent ruin
Like horse strafing in bannerlord
valid zephyr
I mean irl animals will often dart to the side.
gentle blade
I like the idea of side stepping. I dont like the idea of holding a button combination to do it tho.
covert birch
I mean, it has to be a button combination cuz holding d or a will just turn you in place now
potent ruin
Or maybe double tap A or D
To do a quick jump to that direction
I think this would be cool if we keep the always moving forward system
strange wave
I think this would be cool if we keep the always moving forward system
@potent ruin if your in the game, hold A or D and dont move your camera, its the same effect as that
potent ruin
But you turn your head away
strange wave
no you dont
potent ruin
It would be a way to keep your head facing forward while moving sideways
strange wave
unless you have head tracking off
potent ruin
You turn your front away then
Like for a trike it would be pretty benifical to be able to do that
To keep your front always facing a predator while maneuvering around
slow snow
Let smaller carnivores do a little dodge jump to avoid getting bit if timed properly but it takes stam much like the current jumping system 
covert birch
why would dinos vision not be affected by cobwebs
neat beacon
if they're not eye level with it
covert birch
Well i mean, most dinos who can fit inside buildings are on a similar eyelvl as mercs
neat beacon
Oh, so both would be good?
covert birch
Yea sure
neat beacon
fixed it
frosty igloo
How do you guys feel about tacos being night creatures
I think thats a pretty neat suggestion
paper oriole
Tacos and dryos should def be nocturnal
Theyre burrowers so baving good vision in the dark fits
frosty igloo
I think so too
but at the same time isin't dryo good enough
I mean once other creatures will be added
like flyers that can pick them up and drop them
But as of now
paper oriole
Eh if carnis get multiple nocturnals i dont think 2 or 3 herbi nocturnals is too much
frosty igloo
yeah true
and esspecially that we are getting troodons and other small fast creatures
also how do you feel about omnivore Gali
paper oriole
Id been thinking about omni galli before
He could def eat frogs, bugs and eggs. Maybe small hatchlings on occasion
frosty igloo
Maybe even break logs and eat larvea
I mean it has hella powerful legs
Now that I think about it most herbs could feed on larvea
paper oriole
Yeah peck at termite mounds, logs, maybe kick up dirt, sand or mud for shellfish and bugs
Herbivores today will eat bones and small animals on purpose too
Like deer and cows have been recorded eating birds
paper oriole
It could be a possibility for an occasional âtreatâ for large herbivores to munch on small juvies for a bit of protein and calcium (only occasionally) lol
frosty igloo
I mean I think thats too much
paper oriole
Probably lol
frosty igloo
The last thing we need is a trike chasing a utah like "Gimme the calcium boiiiii"
paper oriole
It would be pretty funny though as a juvie utah hearing stomps, then going âphew it's just a maiaâ then it fucking eats you
frosty igloo
yeah no
Honestly where would the line between carni and herb bee
if that was a thing
paper oriole
It would probably be used to just grief even if there was punishment fir running around mass munching hatchlings
paper oriole
Would add to the horror aspect in a way lmao, will that diablo over there browse the dryo nest when night falls. But yeah would just encourage toxicity
And dont need more of that in the playerbase lol
Frogs, bugs, shellfish and rodents would suffice just fine
frosty igloo
I mean we know that most herbs should be able to eat insects but which should not
There should be some limits
paper oriole
I dont think things like trike or magy would be actively seeking out insects
frosty igloo
yeah they have better things to do
although those horns could be nice digging tools
paper oriole
But galli, theri, hypsi, dryo, and other herbis with smaller heads and useable arms would
Maybe ava
frosty igloo
If para becomes a water dino
paper oriole
If diablo gets his downsize i think he could be a good nocturnal warthog digging up roots, mushrooms and bugs
Para and maia could go for shellfish
frosty igloo
they could eat crayfish but mostly weeds
paper oriole
I think there was some discovery of a hadro eating crabs
frosty igloo
I mean yeah that would be cool but it would only make sense if they had to fight it first
like stomp it
also make worms really rare
so they stay more on the herbivore side of the spectrum
paper oriole
Worms and grubs could be in and under rotten log nodes that could spawn
frosty igloo
Yeah but have a limit on them spawning
paper oriole
Thered probably be some sort of drawback to eating too many bugs, frogs, shellfish etc since genes will be a thing
And vomiting
frosty igloo
Or maybe poisonus bugs like if you eat bugs from a log that has mushrooms on it there is a chance those bugs ate the mushrooms and you will get sick
paper oriole
So the nodes wouldnt have to be too rare, you'd be punished for gorging in them
frosty igloo
Or like dondi said preferences
paper oriole
Eh a random chance to be poisonedwould be pretty lame, unless you can sniff the poisonous fungus
frosty igloo
meaning that some dino will be like I feel like a grub but than after 20 grubs they will not want anymore and the player will simply be unable to eat
And if a dinosaur is a female and she laid a egg maybe she will have cravings for calcium things
paper oriole
Also i think it would be cool if a couple of the little guys, maybe hypsi, homalo and ovi as example, could eat poisonous fungus and berries to gain a toxicity buff the more % those things take up their diet. Not making it damaging to bite them, but most predators would get sick from eating them. Their colours would brighten too as a warning
Maybe not ovi tho since hell be attacking nests and it would be unfair if he was poisonous lol
paper oriole
Hypsi is small and harmless enough it would be a neat unique way of deterring predators
frosty igloo
although if season come there should be a time where the hypsi can't become poisonous because there is no fruit/fungi around for it to eat to gain toxic buff
paper oriole
Poison could be a unique utility to a few small herbivores, onlybif they eat the right diet if course
frosty igloo
I mean thier job is to also get eaten and support the ecosystem
paper oriole
Yeah there wouldnt be enough poison fruit for them all to get it lol
Also
Cerato and mono could be immune
frosty igloo
yeah but I'm just saying there should be times where they simply can't become immune
to give other tree dwelling creatures a chance
also so raptors have some fun
paper oriole
Raptors will already be hunting mid tiers in packs too, a few poisonous hypsis ans homalos wouldnt ruin their play lol
frosty igloo
so either make it hard to become poisonous or make poisonous but not lethal
paper oriole
The lethality would depend on how much hunger you fill on the poisonous animal, it woul only be lethal in high amounts
frosty igloo
It would be pretty cool to track a hypsi until their poison goes away
and than CHOMP
paper oriole
There could be seasons where the poison is relatively easy to find, and in the dry season it would be scarce
Since remember youd have to make it a big part of your diet for any useful buff
frosty igloo
Yeah that would make sense
I mean If it was so easy to become poisonous nobody would even bother hunting them
paper oriole
Except mono and cerato, or whoever can eat anything
Cerato seems like the most popular candidate for eating shit other carnis dont want to
frosty igloo
And there would be a reason to play it
paper oriole
Yeah cerato being a filthy nasty bully who eats poison and rotten meat and gets a necrotic bite for making rot a large part of their diet would be cool
frosty igloo
yeah pretty much the vulture of the isle
barren zephyr
@barren zephyr that what i actually wanted to say!
left nacelle
@potent ruin There's been a lot of warpaint concepts shown in the past. They are a couple years old, but I'd be surprised if we didn't get warpaint
pale sorrel
@potent ruin I think that's a great suggestion, but I believe if they're implementing "Tribals" I'm pretty sure they'll get some face paint anyway. đ Good suggestion though!
round fox
Gotta say I do like the sucho idea, just the concept in general of being able to knock certain creatures over if you weigh enough sounds interesting
Could be hard to balance but-
strange wave
a thing to make rugops unique i love it
potent ruin
@left nacelle do you have a link? Iâd love to see it!
barren zephyr
@barren zephyr aw thats great to hear! great minds think alike đ
left nacelle
@potent ruin https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/isle/images/c/cf/Old_Tribal_Warpaint_Concept_Art_2_The_Isle.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161027070506 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/isle/images/b/b6/Old_Dinosaur_Warpaint_Concept_Art_The_Isle.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161027070146 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/isle/images/4/45/Old_Tribal_Warpaint_Concept_Art_1_The_Isle.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161027070509 These are old pics from The Isle's Wiki page
slow snow
Teeth one is sick
potent ruin
thank you alot @left nacelle
left nacelle
No prob!
barren zephyr
so pretty
covert birch
@native yew that is confirmed already
sleek ingot
For those of you who said Cerato on my Rugops description, it doesn't need to be the only scavenging animal. Not everyone would want to be it, and having at least one other theropod that also thrives off of scavenging wouldn't be that bad.
We already have 3 piscivores, two rex like builds, quite a few bleeders, and upcoming venomous dinos. There is no crime in a second animal that lives on a playstyle similar to Cerato and Carno.
silent current
Let me guys kno what you guys think about my megalania idea
I had fun writing it
Will probably repost a more polished version
native yew
@covert birch wait rly? must of missed it, thx.
valid zephyr
I like those features apart from the super tough skin part.
they're only a ton, so on the small tier part of the list next to cerato.
silent current
oh no that's what i meant
that's what the tail whip is for @valid zephyr c;
dem poor allo snoots gonna get the hurt boop
but they will have to be able to escape apexes because than they'd just be parazilla :/
XD
valid zephyr
I think they would be able to hide pretty well due to sitting so low.
And might be fast swimmers too.
silent current
yee
Yeah that's why I said faster than terrestrial dinos swimming but no where as quick as spino or deino x3 @valid zephyr
Because in videos komodos are good swimmers but their not necessarily fast
which gives them a disadvantage
pale sorrel
@ashen fossil Amazing idea
vestal rune
the devs have been against the idea of picking up babies
frosty igloo
The only problem I see with baby carring is that a person can just go AFK and have the adult carry the baby around and the person only comes back to the game to eat from the nest
also it could be annoying since hatchlings are the main source of food for many dinos
So if baby carring was ever a thing maybe it should be a mechanic for only a select few dinos
for example a trike would make no sense, theri could have the babies hide under the tail,
Maybe ptera with its feet but there is limits to that
Most creatures simply can't carry thier young
valid zephyr
velo will most likely be playable if the damn compy is.
covert birch
dondi said every dino will be playable
False, that was referring to the new 14 dinos which velo isnt part of
we dont know if the current ai will be playable or not
valid zephyr
honestly it makes sense if velo is playable. it's better than compy, and that's playable
covert birch
isnt a part of *
"and the compy is smaller than the velo so that mean every dino will be playable"
the acro is smaller than the giga so that mean every dino will be playable
Oh wait.... acros gonna be ai
Your logic doesnt apply
rex giga and much more are playable
valid zephyr
I mean objectively velo is a better playable.
it can actually hunt things, it can have a pounce mechanic.
covert birch
Acro specifically is ai
And again, im not saying velo shouldnt be playable
Just that we have no confirmation that is it
valid zephyr
I'm not saying velo will be playable. I'm just saying I think it should be as it has better gameplay than compy.
Though compy has set the bar real low for what can be playable.
covert birch
True, but remember they also prolly wont make these ai/playable dinos viable
at least not to the same extent a regular playable is
Like theyll have a unique mechanic sure, but that wont come into play as much as other unique mechanics
valid zephyr
yeah I suspect none of the 'playable AI' will be set up to actually be viable
covert birch
Cuz quoting another suggestion
Then just adding an image there is generally disliked
looks like ya did since it has the lil space
what little space?
^
forget about it
silent current
Did you guys have any thing else I should add for megalania?
frosty igloo
I still wish acro stayed
pale sorrel
@narrow whale I believe they are planning on adding Titanoboa đ
narrow whale
oh nice
valid zephyr
@barren zephyr Deinonychus is quite a popular dino with several people wanting it to arrive.
Several of us have been working on ideas for it for a while. 
pale sorrel
@narrow whale Here's a (dated) picture of their model. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/isle/images/3/3e/Titanoboa_model.png/revision/latest?cb=20200208142338 It is unknown if they are still working on it or not
silent current
It'd be extremely difficult to put in game tbh
Even if they get the animations working which would be impressive and a miracle they'd still have issues with making it playable
indigo sun
According to Filipe, Dondi greenlit Titanoboa but it wont be coming anytime soon.
silent current
As that's a ton of new mechanics on top of it not being very enjoyable gameplay wise as snakes are slow,it will probably be a giant tug o war rope as the video of it vs rex is soo poorly made when a snake of that mass would not be able to keep it's head up and steady for that long
left nacelle
Someone suggested making it so the game sees the body as a "tail" and the head as the "body" and I remember filipe was saying that could work. But that was a while ago
silent current
Well even if they get it working theres a high chance it will have a very anticlimatic gameplay
It won't be this cinematic dinosaur strangling beast
And on top of that you'd probably get bored by it's hunger since snake hunger is ridiculous
Growing it would be fun but getting to adult and slowly getting bigger over time will drag on for waay too long
left nacelle
The same thing could be said about Deino's hunger
Snake gameplay could still be a lot of fun. You'd be able to hide in the foliage and sneak up on things
And the striking speed could make getting attacked by one terrifying
silent current
it would also be anticlimatic or buggy as making an animation for every dino being coiled around would be hard on it's own
And what happens when your beloved little green rope gets bitten
It's going to get thrashed around
silent current
Idon't understand why not just do what dondi mentioned about reskin dlcs
Where you can have a giga that is reskined asa charc and the only thing that changes is a few animations the calls and appearance
Meanwhile it's just the same dino
Same stats
strange wave
tiers aren't a thing, a current stats dont matter at all, so why put them in your suggestion
honest sparrow
did I make it in time?
vestal rune
wait numbered tiers?
silent current
were getting like 14 new dinos plus pteradon and deino being the first steps into semi aquatics and fliers
honest sparrow
iirc that's how prog worked
vestal rune
that hasn't existed since the progression days
strange wave
and colours? what those can be changed by the player @barren zephyr
silent current
Ontop of all the other dinos their planning on adding
strange wave
and upvoting your own suggestion
pulsar lake
Tiers = specie
silent current
Like megalania, pachyrhino, Diplodicus, ect
covert birch
Which is basically to take the place of the wieght system stopping small stuff to kill large ones
We dont know how it does that tho
Just that its happening
brisk mesa
@covert birch
Send proof pls?
covert birch
gonna be a while watt
brisk mesa
I mean so long as I end up with a fat ping and a quote from filipe, I'm good
strange wave
im not voting my own suggestion
@barren zephyr but still the stats dont matter, as we dont know the stats of any of the animals after evrima
pulsar lake
But man this Deinonychus is just an Utah clone.
vestal rune
this?
pulsar lake
With a bit of Dilo.
honest sparrow
Yeah, I prefer leopard deinonychus
covert birch
yea dino classes*
vestal rune
@brisk mesa
covert birch
What exactly is it then?
pulsar lake
Leopard Deinonychus>Utahnychus
vestal rune
ye it seems like it's referring to each individual dino
brisk mesa
Cerato bites Utah
strange wave
stats dont matter dont put them in your suggestion
covert birch
ah
honest sparrow
yeah what levi said
silent current
I mean a sucho shouldn't be able to instantly kill a sub rex XD
brisk mesa
So there's no 'base damage' for Cerato
silent current
Because it's no longer based off weight
pulsar lake
Arboreal Deinonychus
silent current
The weight system was a place holder that the devs are getting rid of
brisk mesa
Cerato does different damage to everything but it isnt weight based
strange wave
Levi you want what a 75N biteforce 100 kg and 350 hp deinonychus?
@barren zephyr stats dont matter, dont put them in a suggestion in regards to current game balance
covert birch
Hmmm, wonder how growth will play into that
honest sparrow
yeah arboreal/ quick ambush stealth hunter deinonychus could work really well
brisk mesa
I;e if Cerato is too strong against Magyarosaurus, you can literally increase Cerato's damage against Magy without fucking any other matchups
its fundamentally a flawless system
imagine if say, in Overwatch, you could make idfk Black Widow do less damage against Roadhog or someshit
literally allows the finest tuning of the balance instrument
honest sparrow
OW balance is fucked anyway
covert birch
thats some great shit
brisk mesa
Filipe is a god for doing that
covert birch
We dont talk about ow balance ptera
pulsar lake
yes with what a 75N biteforce deinonychus 100kg and 350 hp?
@barren zephyr don't talk about stats, talk about gameplay.
Deinonychus could climb trees and hunt in. It could also pounce from trees and have a kind of "gliding mechanic.
honest sparrow
I need the pin
brisk mesa
OW balance is fucked anyway
@honest sparrow moreso an example of how Filipe's god tier system would be able to salvage that dumpster fire
silent current
Now that you metion gliding I hope when they get boreal dinos right they add micro raptors
pulsar lake
brisk mesa
@barren zephyr you do realise that uh, Utah's getting a feathered option down the line, right?
silent current
Yeah it's pretty much useless but it'd be adorable 3
pulsar lake
Deinonychus like that would be cool as fuck.