The QA people are just people they totally will forget to test out something or leave something outta sight thinking its not important
#general-feedback-discussion
dusty geyser
outer nebula
then they are not doing there job and shouldnt be doing it
indigo sun
and at least a thousand people in an open beta wouldnt even bother reporting bugs
outer nebula
hypno makes sure of that
indigo sun
trust them to do their jobs, how does that sound?
dusty geyser
You can't make work 100% perfect
thorny crag
What u want exactely? XD
dusty geyser
You totally can mess up something even the tiniest bit that can mess up the game
outer nebula
no such things as a 100% of anything its not reality
dusty geyser
Yea that's what I mean
thorny crag
Then they will make a fix and everybody is happy again
indigo sun
why are you so convinced that a buncha people doing fuckall would be better than people who go in with the intent of finding bugs and learning how to trigger them
thorny crag
Someone just wants a key hehehe
dusty geyser
So letting people test out makes people happy to get to play the recode earlier and for devs to maybe find out things the QA missed
indigo sun
boohoo people can wait for happiness
delayed gratification is better, they'll get an even better product if they sit down and wait
thorny crag
No it wont .it will make me angery that people show me whats coming and i cant play it yet xP
outer nebula
then if you see a bug in the live build report it thats why we have the #401465476661641217
dusty geyser
@thorny crag why would you play the recode when it comes out then?
indigo sun
the devs clearly want to keep the update under wraps, considering they made every QA member sign an NDA. an open beta would be impossible to keep quiet and people would be streaming it. exact opposite of what they want. If people are so impatient they can take a break and go play something else
dusty geyser
"I don't want people to show me what's coming "
indigo sun
personally i like to be surprised
thorny crag
Ye same
dusty geyser
Whats the difference between you see what's coming a day before or a day after
thorny crag
I cant look away when there is a new video about recode stuff
indigo sun
and personally i trust people making something to do a good job even if they dont show me everything
dusty geyser
Why would you watch hope trailer and news?
indigo sun
youre really not gonna find anyone who is gonna agree with you properly
dusty geyser
If you just dive into the recode without knowing anything it will just be awkward
thorny crag
And i don't like youtubers who can't even play the game showing me the whole first experience when i can't. Makes me angry to watch it but still cant look away
thorny crag
Ye
dusty geyser
But its awkward if you don't know how to use the surprise
thorny crag
We will see
dusty geyser
What if you wouldn't know that the Utah can jump on prey or that the suh ocan fish?
thorny crag
I wanna get the feel on my own screen, not through someone elses.
outer nebula
those are test footage not actual game play
thorny crag
Would not make much difference maybe
dusty geyser
Yes they're testing stuff yes its wip but still at least some of it will make it to the game
thorny crag
I know for example that birds will stop chirping for a moment if a big dino does a call. Know it already but still dont know the feeling of it
dusty geyser
+as you said that its only testing you won't get spoiled even by watching a Dev video about the new stuff
thorny crag
Devs are just showing little things
dusty geyser
Cause 90% of it won't make it into the actual game
dusty geyser
Cause I saw already much updates and trailers and testing stuff before releases
The ptera will go into the game like it is now probably
The skins and models too
But the mechanics
At this point I'm disagreeing with my own suggestion cause I see how people would just mess up things
thorny crag
I've seen all videos and some of the early stuff were store bought assets which they can't use yet. Like the humans,bunker, supplycrates... But the recent stuff will all come in some form. They are working on it and we just have to wait. I am guessing that we wont get too much on day one but they are going to implement the new stuff over time
Its better to take it slow cause they will see how the community will react
dusty geyser
Yes day one will just be the maps and some dinos like maybe tenonto or magy
Well see let's just hope it will get ready to come sooner
thorny crag
Yep, guess they will take their time anyways
Also to add to the record suggestion, i think dondi said there maybe won't be any recording system after recode. They are not focusing on this feature ( maybe because of performance issues ).
tawdry crow
@dusty geyser I missed the discussion earlier. QA will be performing a range of testing exercises, not just adhoc "jump in one space a thousand times to see if it breaks"
I'm going to have full days dedicated to playtesting with them.
dusty geyser
Yes I said server testing too
I see now how my suggestion was irrelevant and yeah I know that the QA team does more than just jumping around to see if it breaks
Just good luck on testing it
tawdry crow
The issue we had with development branch is that it left us with a divided community. The entire reason we merged the branches was so that I could bring in a dedicated QA team to take its place.
dusty geyser
I didn't know the background to the Dev branch thought it was for people to give feedback about the update
thorny crag
Wow a wild developer appeared ❤
thorny crag
I like the idea of pteras new takeoff. Would make it much more vulnerable when taking off from ground.
valid zephyr
@thorny crag herbis don't have walking scent so they can't use it for tracking and hunting prey.
standing scent still makes it easy to find bushes, but prevents them from both chasing and tracking
thorny crag
U can prevent that when you just turn off ability to smell steps as herbivore while walking. Just show bushes when smelling while walking. Show bushes, water and steps for standing while smelling. I get that hunting would be a problem but there are maybe more ways to fix that.
valid zephyr
and that means you can't smell the giga which has been all over the area and is sitting in the bushes.
thorny crag
I just mean u see no steps when u are in a hurry to find bushes
valid zephyr
ah no steps just via the walking one?
thorny crag
Your fault if u dont wanna take the time to smell right way
valid zephyr
yeah that would work
thorny crag
Yea
valid zephyr
best of both worlds
thorny crag
Would punish people who just wanna find bushes fast
valid zephyr
would mean you could walk and smell for bushes but not use it for tracking.
then the standing scent works to find footsteps too.
perfect
thorny crag
Yes would be lovely but idk how much work that would be for the poor soul who would have to code it
Ye and you really only look for bushes while walking. No water. No steps. Nothing else
It often irritates me to see huge fields of water xD but they will change the scent system so this will disappear anyways
thorny crag
Imagine eating pixelated meat and people joking about it all being dicks instead of gore xD
ebon tiger
@valid zephyr Tapejara is actually pretty small, about the size of a crow. Tupandactylus is closer to Ptera size, and is also related to Tapejara.
in fact, the first pic in that post is Tupandactylus (the one with the big crest), not Tapejara
ebon tiger
all good. a lot of folks tend to confuse them. it's not helped that for a long time, Tupandactylus was synonymous with Tapejara too
valid zephyr
Ark hasn't helped.
ebon tiger
indeed 😛
there's no reason you couldn't suggest both, Comrade, since aside from size and appearance, they'd both fit an omnivore/herbivore pterosaur niche
thorny crag
We need more flyers anyway!
valid zephyr
i mean i'm not a fan of crow sized things being playable tbh, as they eat up player spots without interacting with the world.
ptera sized is good as they're prey for lots of other things
ebon tiger
that's a fair point, but the same argument could be made for a number of the new dinos, such as Compy/Hypsi/Homalo
valid zephyr
I mean I wasn't a fan of those being playable either, but fact is they are.
ava and velo are so much better playables than compy
barren zephyr
If yah scroll up, you can see the debate I had with Blue...
ebon tiger
if they can make those little things work, i'd imagine Tapejara could, or some other small flyers, like Archaeopteryx
barren zephyr
Can we get some ideas of how the cryolophosaurus can be a "unique" dinosaur? I suggested the caved nests and color flushing... but what else can we do?
ebon tiger
and Ava is also a lot larger than people give it credit for. damn thing is man-sized at least
barren zephyr
I know dondi ain't taking dino suggestions but still, I wanna perfect this cryolophosaurus.
ebon tiger
Cryo doesn't really have much to offer. it's basically a smaller Allo with fancy headgear
barren zephyr
(Sigh) bummer. Well, it would be a filler in the game. It actually a bit bigger than dilo and smaller than a carno
Oh well... there's probably another cool dino out there...
valid zephyr
we don't need a 4th carni sitting around 500kg
hell we didn't need a 3rd imo
dilo, utah, and mono are all duking it out that size already.
at least 1 is guaranteed to end up being bad compared to the other two.
what could cryo offer that none of the other three could?
@ebon tiger ava is a lot more than man sized. it's 650kg. double that of a small horse.
similar to a sumatran rhinoceros in weight really
weighs more than even utah.
valid zephyr
it's both undersized in game, and people are playing big dinos.
ebon tiger
well, fair enough, i understated it a lot lol
night mountain
dibble stole its mass, arrest him
valid zephyr
imo it should beat sub adult utah in a fight. hell it should beat adult utah in a pure facetank.
still think any adult utah with more than about 6IQ should win though.
barren zephyr
i think its a nice idea , the trike biting
thorny crag
Trike could definately just bite a chunk of meat out of any dino
barren zephyr
Actually the dilo is 1,500kg, utah is 1,200kg, and the herrera js 500kg
And the mono is ugly.
kind agate
I completely Agree with the Trike suggestion
night mountain
rugged ravine
I beleive there should be natural disasters usually back then millions of years ago islands would have floods fires storms
I beleive that hatchling dinos should be able to be carried by adults depending on how small or big the juvinile is yes it can be annoying to grab a juvinile but in most dinosaur games there's only a certain amount of time ur able to hold something that weighs lesser than u
valid zephyr
@sharp mulch that's most likely coming from what we know.
valid zephyr
We already has one tiny sauropod that's extremely controversial. I don't see what adding a near identical one would achieve.
covert birch
Salta is literally magy 2x when it comes to size
Would be literally apex food.
night mountain
the only small sauropod you could really argue for is some weird super offensive amarga or something i feel like
dusty geyser
@valid zephyr did it
covert birch
Ide prefer bajada
paper oriole
How about a sauropod that can actually defend itself from apexes to some extent like spinophorosaurus, ampelosaurus or agustinia
dusty geyser
salta was just one of the first ingame dinosaurs i saw and i got very nice memories about him
would be nice to see em in the isle
sonic cloud
Tbf I don’t mind a small sauropod outrunning apexes, but they shouldn’t be outrunning mids
paper oriole
He has like bo defenses he’s just a pussy camara
covert birch
Like ide prefer a sauropod who is mechanically different to magy
Who is just fast and has minimal armor
Imo bajada would be 10x better and more unique and is large enough to fill the midtier role
dusty geyser
salta has literally armor on his body
covert birch
I mean look at this badass
dusty geyser
and his tail is pretty strong
paper oriole
Camara is nice but more options for moderate sized sauropods with some unique mechanic variation would be great
covert birch
So basically upscaled magy?
dusty geyser
@covert birch he looks like hypo magy
night mountain
bajada would be cool tbh
night mountain
i'd take bajada as a magy skin to be perfectly honest
paper oriole
Spinophorosaurus is a sauropod with thagomizers, ampelo has spike armour
covert birch
ide prefer a sauropod without armor now tho
paper oriole
A sauropod who deals bleed
night mountain
^
covert birch
Like magy's prolly gonna get an amor mechanic to defend itself from stuff
Ide prefer something else with unique mechanics
night mountain
The only non redundant sauropods now are some bleeder, niger, or some hugeass titanosaur
covert birch
Nigersaurus isnt nonredundant
Its just a meme
paper oriole
Take nigersaurus and quadruple his size
night mountain
everything else can be covered with skins almost
i'd honestly even take niger as a magy skin
just gimme the boy
paper oriole
Same
thorny crag
Spinophoro looks noice
covert birch
Imo a perfect sauropod list would be
Small tier: Magy
Midtier: bajada
Apex: Cama or that brontomerus bryan mentioned
dusty geyser
still #saltagang
night mountain
atlagang
covert birch
Hell maybe apato with an ability to do this
paper oriole
LOL
night mountain
thorny crag
The issue is nobody can kill it
covert birch
The extra long neck and tail would have horrible physics and tail clipping
thorny crag
Oh
paper oriole
Flail everywhere
thorny crag
Sad yeh
covert birch
The old apato model had neck spikes
covert birch
dusty geyser
looks like a magy with stretched out neck
covert birch
The whole idea of diplodocids are the extra long tails
night mountain
make it curl up like a chameleon so it doesnt clip
thorny crag
Ye long tail but make it a fix animation ,just the tip has the new collision thingy
dusty geyser
the magy with his armor probably looks a bit like salta 
covert birch
its almost like magy also had osteoderms irl
dusty geyser
thats the juvi magy
covert birch
ik it is
Im hjust saying magy already has osteoderms.
Why add another armored sauropod when we got so many more unique options
dusty geyser
well magy wont be really fun to play as with his neck only being stretched to the front
covert birch
?
dusty geyser
imagine the turn radius
covert birch
Its called alt turn
dusty geyser
not all servers allow alt turn
night mountain
LOL
covert birch
they will
indigo sun
Alt turn will be forces
covert birch
Its being forced
indigo sun
*forced
dusty geyser
forced?
covert birch
yes forced
dusty geyser
welp didnt know that
indigo sun
It will be embedded in basic movement, which you cannot turn off
night mountain
paper oriole
@barren zephyr why change galli 4 call just because you don’t like it? Also have to give actual ideas about your two dino suggestions not just “add this”
dusty geyser
what will be the alt turn for magy
covert birch
That guy literally took 2 animals which can be made into unique playables and said
"make em ai"
Also solo pretty fast prolly
Since quadrapeds irl turn quickly
paper oriole
Prestosuchus or saurosuchus would be amazing playables
thorny crag
Ye.. I'd like them to add -one day in the far future- a selection to choose similar dinos with same animations but different sounds. Many dinos are so close to each other but would be awesome to have them ingame.. I often hear x is same like y , why add it. With this they could add them and save animation work. Just new sounds and models
night mountain
thats confirmed pretty much
thorny crag
My english sucks. Sorry for that
night mountain
we don't know who though
covert birch
what is confirmed?
thorny crag
The alt turn thing i think
covert birch
Yea dondi mentioned DLC skins
night mountain
i personally want niger magy
covert birch
he used tarbo for rex and carchar for giga
thorny crag
Aww i would love thaaaaat
night mountain
osteodentornis pela skin 
covert birch
Personally i would like every dino to have 1 skin ya get in achievements and another for DLC
thorny crag
Daaaaamn that makes me happuuu ! I missed that totally
covert birch
DLC skins would be client side while achievement skins anyone can see
night mountain
CURSED
covert birch
nah not cursed
night mountain
10 million percent against anything skin wise being client side
thorny crag
Yeah to earn the skin you have to earn it and get all elders with the first skin
covert birch
why is that?
Most skins would just be headswaps
So colors n such wouldnt affect it much
night mountain
like why would you want different players to see different things
thorny crag
Nay imo it would be a whole new model
paper oriole
Would be kinda a waste and pointless to make them only client size
covert birch
Cuz tentacle the only literaly difference you see is the animals head
paper oriole
So?
thorny crag
Cause its different animals just close
paper oriole
Even if thats the case why hide it
night mountain
but like whats the advantage to it being client side only
valid zephyr
the worst is different skins showing (aka defaults for one player)
thorny crag
The whole point is to add diversity. If thats the right word
paper oriole
Wouldnt you want to see more variation, not have it hidden?
night mountain
yeah only see default skins is also extremely bad
valid zephyr
one player could make a great camo and think they're hidden, other player sees them clear as day as default skins enabled
covert birch
Personally i htink it would look weird seeing a giga wiht a carchar, spino with an oxalia, etc
thorny crag
Ye make em visible for all and show the world you earned the next stage
People mixpack already..
covert birch
Ingame systems plan to stop that
paper oriole
And some very close species can co exist or even work together it happens irl
covert birch
Idk just wouldnt look right imo
Also how would nesting work
Hybrids
Kids get a random skin of one of the two parents
thorny crag
No xD
covert birch
Default babs
Especially with how traits and parents appearances are being passed down to kids
thorny crag
No i would say you can nest your species but you cant get elder cause you did not earn it
past eagle
plus when you get nested in you have a longer time to reach adult/elder
thorny crag
Ok so imo you get the next skin when you earn it. You get it when you play the first skin to full elder (earn all perks). Then you can select the new one
It has to do with what im talking about
covert birch
Ah your talkin about the achievement skins
thorny crag
Ye
covert birch
Yea im talkin about DLC skins
thorny crag
Oh ok
past eagle
i thought you were talking about growth
covert birch
no
past eagle
well then idk
thorny crag
I don't like the idea of buying skins but ye they need money.. Will probs be like this
thorny crag
I like the idea of earning it. Makes it interesting to finish all perks
covert birch
Ide just prefer that the skins are client side b/c
A: Mixpacking would look weird
B: People will target those with or without the skins
thorny crag
I thought he said dlc = waterworld
covert birch
No
only thing he said about oceanic playables was that Bryan and Dinosauriac wanted them
thorny crag
Then there is no point in having those skins at all
covert birch
And that he doesnt care what they do after the game is done
the skins would literally do nothing but change how your dino looks
thorny crag
Ye he said first the game , then dlc
Ye i know but i mean whats the point of looking different if nobody can see it but you
Thats not how skins work in any game
covert birch
You prefer X animal over Y animal
thorny crag
Literally
covert birch
So you would rather see Y instead of X
So on your screen every single giga for example is now a carchar
including you
thorny crag
If you get the other skin you look for same species and pack with them
Or you mixpack on servers where its allowed
covert birch
Skins arent diff animals
thorny crag
Let them have the option
covert birch
THey are the exact same animal with a different appearence
Mechanically from playstyle to inviting something to a group it wouldnt change
thorny crag
Imo its a different animal. Just closely related to skin one
Same mechanic
But different name and you nest yoir species
covert birch
from how dondi put it
Its the same exact dino with a diff name and appearence
thorny crag
Ye
covert birch
YOu can still play with other rexs
Even if ya gotta tarbo skin
thorny crag
Then why show it as something else when you on your screen have a different name and skin
Depends on server rules then
covert birch
Cuz people will buy dinos they prefer
Ik quite a few people who want tarbo. They wiould buy the tarbo skin
Skins wouldnt change anything game-system wise
thorny crag
Ye but they would like to show their dino
covert birch
That is why they are cosmetic
thorny crag
I understand that
But you dont buy them to only see it on your screen
Or at least i would not
covert birch
You buy it too change the appearence of the game
Not so you can look cool
Buying things to look cool
Doesnt make ya look cool
thorny crag
Ah u mean all rexes are tarbo on your screen then?
covert birch
Yes
thorny crag
XD
thorny crag
Nay i get what u mean now but i don't like the idea of it tbh - no offense tho
I respect that
covert birch
Cuz otherwise issues in skins that appear in other games appear here
thorny crag
Just my view of it is this. I want to have both
covert birch
Like in TF2 for example where people targetted others with specifc hats
Like in Fortnite where people target those without skins
Etc
thorny crag
Groups of rexes and groups of tarbos
It happens anyways
People will target this or that, thats how people are
covert birch
Yes but what im saying is
The targetting those with or without skins issue is gone if its client side
thorny crag
To me the skins would add a new species without the need of make a whole new one
I get that
I honestly think that would not be a too big problem
thorny crag
Its like rexes eating allos cause they are easier to kill then the trikes
I see it a lot too but when u have a golden weapon in modernwarefare you are good at the game, they may come after you but you have the golden thing to be fancy
If its a dlc you buy it to be fancy
You want to be the special new dino
covert birch
Imo a super rare skin ya only see if ya know someone did something super hard as a skin would be cool to
And ya have 1 dlc skin and 1 achievement skin
thorny crag
Aw yeah
I absolutely prefer the idea of archievement skin
Cause if you earn it you wanna wear it and ye people will go after you but you are good at the game then
If u die you dont lose the skin then
covert birch
The achievement skin would show ya are actually good at that dino and people would avoid ya
thorny crag
Ye maybe
That would be awesome
And people like to pack with own species. Atleast i like that more
So you will have new groups and that would add more variety to the species palette
I think it would be sad if its only on your own screen
thorny crag
Exactely
And maybe to add to that - another archievement skin for every dino with scars and like broken teeth/horns/claws. For every species.
covert birch
these achievements would be very hard to get tho
Something like passing elder perks for 3 consecutive lives
Or unlocking all perks for a certain dino
thorny crag
Ye ,you really have to play all perks,then u unlock the new "dino" (the other dino skin which you start at 0) and the badass skin for your first skin. So you reward both: players who stick with their dino and those who want the next skin.
U like that idea?
covert birch
nah ide prefer to have 1 dlc skin and 1 achievement skin
With the dlc skin being a new dino
And the achievement skin being a battlescarred version of the dino
thorny crag
Aye ok
Ye that would make people pay for a pack. Hope it's not like 1 dino skin for 10 bucks xD
They would make a shitton of money but me poor soul cries
covert birch
I mean it would be fine since people already pay that for rexs
thorny crag
Damn some people just have too much moneyzz
thorny crag
If they stick with that then they can make so much money
Or like every game just add a battlepass and make it so you have seasons - people who have no time jus buy it and those who are poor just play them free
I mean unlock them
Maybe with some sort of point system like mw
past eagle
if a battlepass copy gets in this game i'm disowning it
thorny crag
Yeh thats why every goddamn game is doing it xD
night mountain
"hell people already payed 100$ for the nyctatyrannus" and now everything done for it is worthless with how different the recode is 
thorny crag
Hehehe.. I hope buying dinos from server owner won't ever come back
past eagle
your hope is kinda worthless in that sense because anywhere there's money to make people will always do it
thorny crag
They need money to get bigger, hire more people and add more into the game. If that means i have to pay 5 bucks for a damn nice skin - ill do it if i can. It should not be pay to win but toss a coin to your dondi ! It makes everyone happy when they finally have 100 people and can create mkre maps, buy better servers, create more dinos,.....
past eagle
there are better ways then battlepass models and buying out apexes
thorny crag
Yeah just as reference, sure could just be skin packs or something else
It's just there to generate money
paper oriole
correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure apexes being only AI is only a temporary 'fix' that'll be in place for a while after the update
so that the servers wouldnt be immediately swarmed with apexes and people would be encouraged to make a balanced ecosystem in game
past eagle
that's fine
i'm just talking in general
and yeah they're going little to bigger in release
so we'll have the whole roster at some point
i just can't wait to be able to play the neuro spino
paper oriole
personally i agree with the decision of disabling apexes for a short while after release, maybe the apex mains who refuse to play anything else right now will find that they actually like playing something smaller due to it
covert birch
@frosty igloo apexs will return as playable after a bit of time
night mountain
ai pelas to come eat you, i like it
thorny crag
Birds sitting on dinos would be amazing! But how about littly playable flyers that can mount big dinos to travel on them ? Would ge thrown off when big dino does an attack
Kinda like a microraptor or Sinornithosaurus ❤
glossy copper
It does seem pointless to block apexs at the start. Main reason is that everytime they've released a big update they do a database wipe and everyone has to start over anyway so it really makes zero sense.
paper oriole
Checkmarking your own suggestion is pretty cringe bro
sonic cloud
@barren zephyr explain how Monolophosaurus, a modelled animal that is already confirmed and thus easier to implement, cannot do either of those abilities
barren zephyr
I know nothing about the monolophosaurus, and it has its own special abilities
Therefore, it is in the right that the cryolophosaurus adopt those traits @sonic cloud
covert birch
We know nothing of mono
Other than it ain't venomous
indigo sun
@barren zephyr first paragraph
brittle merlin
also how is sucho weak... i have fought off a pack of 4 allos as a lone sucho
thorny crag
wat shant is being removed ? like forever? must have missed that
timber iris
i'm not sure where to stick this idea for a suggestion as it isn't 'technically' about adding /changing things about the game... but the thought was, that have the dev team ever thought about creating a page/channel/website to showcase every single dino that has EVER appeared in the game? as I sort of gallery/referrance to dinos past and gone/current, as I've been screencapping all the dinos [devs excluded] that are currently in the game and It got me thinking that it IS a shame that all the hard work that went into making/animating/sound of these models will be lost and there's no 'vault of wonders' where people [those not on discord] can go and see how this game has changed over time - sort of like an 'interactive gallery' of dinos and animations and sounds...
covert birch
@rare bramble @thorny crag kissen said shant wasnt in the trash can
rare bramble
thorny crag
ye then it will come bakc so chill
I think they said every dino will come back, except pue maybe
thorny crag
pls no dragons xD
calm summit
@ashen elm Wonderful documents, I truly hope a developer takes a moment to consider your points. Honestly I'd consider your work suitable for the #401481402782056460 channel as it directly references statements made by the devs. It may also increase the likelihood of it being seen. Regardless, good job.
ashen elm
Thank you! Huh, I hadn't considered posting it in feedback, I should consider that. Thanks for the advice!
violet magnet
sucho isn't weak TF
it's only weak against apex carnis and trikes, it flattens other midtiers
covert birch
With the sucho upsize I'm expecting it to beat the fuck outa midtiers even easier
barren zephyr
@severe idol
severe idol
Legality is a difficulty. All options are being explored.
thorny lynx
@barren zephyr Yeah boi showem what dat mouf do
barren zephyr
👍🏼
covert birch
Personally for flesh grazing ide like for it to be
When ya bite something heavier than ya you dont lose hunger for x seconds
Then as an elder perk maybe it can actually give food
delicate tulip
I don't see a point of them making the allos jaws open wider, I mean unless it allows us to swallow larger bodies and larger chunks of flesh which could increase the rate in which we gain hunger but I don't see that happening.
It would be aesthetically pleasing but that's about it
barren zephyr
For the person who suggested a dryo remake, it has a new model and is being worked on. Also, its mouth is closed for me, might be a settings issue
covert birch
@brittle merlin that meercat thing is basically held up by dryo
Imo something involving tree climbing can work better for oro
Yes but dryo already has the whole burrowing thing
Why make oro just a smaller slower dryo who can scout better when ya can give it something unique such as tree climbing
Also imo if something would get meercat why not taco
Taco already also has the burrow
Let oro have 2 things
The ability to walk among the canopys of trees
and
Some woodpecker type food source within trees
Some trees would have nodes the oro can eat from where it would "peck" the wood n eat bugs
plus with the fact everything is gettin a speed boost i doubt oro and taco will be as slow as they are currently
Flyer goes to attack oro in canopy
Oro just climbs back down and the flyer suicides into braches/leaves
Also the jungles do seem to have quite a large canopy
What happens when an oro leaves its burrow? It then gets killed by above ground carnivores... so either way the oro is fucked
Same can apply to burrow invading carnis
So what stops the oro from doing the same thing when it sees a carni on a tree branch while it goes at it
So 2 things
barren zephyr
ratitoullie
barren zephyr
cant wait for ptera Omgg
covert birch
Also i shut down the burrowing part where its like a meercat
The sensing thing is pretty good imo
Doesnt that mean I a pteradon flying straight down at something will also be lookin at my own ass?
Like both parties in the situation will have hindered sight
Especially when lookin down at something small like an oro
Yes but even then
A distant oro as ya dive down will be difficult to see
And even then ya gotta pass things like branches and leaves which will hurt ya if ya fly into em at high speeds
yes ik what happens if ya look straight up
There is nothing im not understanding
No?
Cuz think bout it like this
Pteradon will risk itself flying straight into a tree
Which we already know will harm the animal if it flys into it
misty nova
im gonna eat you both with a deino anyways who cares
mental sleet
And if the Pteranodon flies straight down it can't turn immediately and dies a horrible painful death.
mental sleet
You don't just fly straight down slowly
covert birch
^
mental sleet
Do you really think a Pteranodon, flying high above a SMALL puny target, can fly straight down in a way which said oro can't see it or the Pteranodon won't smash itself against the ground ?
A pteranodon is not a threat.
covert birch
1st one is basically current dryo and taco
2nd 1 is new and unqiue
mental sleet
The orodromeus can outrun the Pteranodon and the Pteranodon can't hit it from the air, end of argument.
covert birch
Your only difference are stat variations
And the sense mechanic which can be applied to both niches
For the two ya mentioned
Minmi = turtle type animal
Hypsi = other tree climber but diff mechanics tied to tree climbing
For the other 3 mentioned
Taco= burrowing small porcupine
Dryo = meercat
Oro = treeclimbing canopy dwelling small animal
How is that a copy of dryo?
having burrow =/= dryo copy
Cuz it also has other unique stuff
Oro on the other hand ide prefer to fit a different niche
I said it would have a similar playstyle to what ya see players do witth dryo now
Which is scout for herds
If something comes run into burrow
Which is what ya basically said for oro but with a "sense" mechanic
Well dondi said dryo is getting interlockable burrows
So that prolly wouldnt be an oro only thing
Explain to me why oros burrows specifically wouldnt work exactly the same as other burrows
So what dondi said he wanted to do with dryos?
Multiple connect burrows and exits
So basically what ya saying is that oro should get a burrow that is like you can make it shaped in any way ya want
i think ya seem to forget how big oros gonna be
we are using max irl sizes now
More than just compy can go into something made by this
nah that was just a sidepoint
I like this customizable burrow thing
ya know what i mean
Yes ik what ya mean
Im just using the ingame term which is burrow
Ik what i mean too
2 things
Yes i have been reading
And this is a discussion. If you are takin this as an argument sorry bud but ya seem to misunderstand me
But yes im just using the word burrows by name
I get that when ya say tunnels that ya mean you can dig a hole in any direction, shape, wiht as many exits as possible
When ya say tunnel im asuming ya mean this but at the bottom there isntead it keeps goin, Leading to another exit, other tunnel system, etc
Also in your 2 definitions ya need to notice that under burrow it literally says
"a hole or tunnel"
What stops a player from camping inside a tunnel?
Well the issues is
with the forced movement part
How would you tell your oro to go into X or Y branches of it
Also how would it deal wiht packs that just camp the entrances
Or im trying to figure out how well a mechanic like this would fit into a game i enjoy
Cuz i genuinly liked the idea of customizable tunnels
I just personally dont see oro itself doing it
When we have imo the better option with taco or dryo
Cuz this is how discussion in here works grim
1 person makes the suggestion
The others ask questions about it
Me liking an idea doesnt mean ill just not have questions
Imo looks better on dryo/taco but thats all opinions n such
Mechanics = good
Just what its applied to is what we have a difference on
Well it wouldnt just be sitting in a tree all day
As ya said before there are predators n such
Plus things like enviormental hazards and hell maybe even dinos knocking down trees such as sauropods
patent spade
quite a bit of anger over burrows and tunnels lol
patent spade
i think discussing the possible flaws or different possibilities for the mechanic to be used would lead to improvement on it. nothing wrong with pointing out what could be wrong with something or different uses for things
barren zephyr
human arms 🤤 😍
past eagle
dog i was about to say something about the latest suggestion and immediately stopped myself but yeah it would be nice in some way
patent spade
@small grove the problem with that is that ppl would be absolute scumbags and use the command to kill themselves in the water when they are losing a fight. people already drown themselves in a fight its just gonna be worse when they can use the command
small grove
@patent spade I mean if it only worked a certain distance from players it wouldn't be abused.
silver dagger
@autumn cove isn't the size ratio way different between rex and trike compared to those two in the movie?
What is it that you like specifically about it? It seems like a blunt attack since that's how pachyrhino's face is.
silver dagger
It's still on the list of "maybe eventually" right? Might make more sense for it (if it's added)
wind pier
What if they added so that dinos swim faster downstream rivers, i think it could be a great idea
night mountain
i want water currents and physics a lot tbh
idk how likely they are its really hard to program last i saw devs mention it
stark canopy
real time fluid simulation's a bitch as far as I can tell
lament thorn
only issue with the 'raccoon' playstyle suggestion is that I highly doubt Mercs will be throwing food away
valid zephyr
i mean there is fixed garbage cans in the bases we have already.
so it would be more a slowly regenerating food source at those fixed spots.
but you risk being shot to get there
night mountain
honestly would be a fun niche
esp since things like compies or taco or whatever are relatively harmless so no real reason to just blast them on sight
lofty sundial
Is all that Dapper wolf does is squint?
valid zephyr
he does have some good suggestions too.
young pecan
Gonna put the Torvosaurus suggestion under the table for a while and work on a Prestosuchus suggestion.
Presto is a very interesting animal.
modest patio
Does anyone else feel like the tenontosaurus is similiar to an iguanadon? All it needs is a sickle and its basically the same dinosaur. Anyone else feel it should be an iguanadon instead? I was hoping for a big quadruped dinosaurs, im glad we are getting one at least.
covert birch
Teno isnt similar to iguanadon due to the fact its around the size of a utah @modest patio
Teno is red. Iguano is green
indigo sun
@barren zephyr pretty sure i've already tagged you with this screenshot but meh. Put some effort into your suggestion
high leaf
@barren zephyr
i don't think that rexes bleed resistance is that bad.
Pachy bone break seems unfair, as pachy already has speed so it could run up and just hit you with bone break and whiteout warning.
I agree with the fact that theri is too fast for the damage it deals, and that either nerf the speed or the damage would be nice, lots of times i get spotted by a theri who just
runs up to me (me not being able to outrun it) and slashing me to death :/.
Acros 2 call is a bit long and dragged out so it might be misjudged as a 3/1/4 call.
paper oriole
Pachy could receive a very minor speed nerf to be on par or 0.1 slower than dilo to add some bleed res and bone break (when run attacking)
patent spade
mixpacking is pretty necessary cause then you just get fucked by utah scouts following you around and having a giga running for you and no one wants to die to that bullshit
paper oriole
Theri could use a speed nerf to 32 or 33 so it cant run down allo like it currently does but can still escape apexes, but its sandbox so itll probably not be worked until they get to redoing its model for survival
indigo sun
Mixpacking causes so many issues lets not remove the rule that stops it from happening
high leaf
@paper oriole i dont follow ur name lol... are you saying trike needs a buff?
paper oriole
Mixpacking screws over solo players so bad
indigo sun
Go to a server without rules against mixpacking if you cant handle the few issues that come up with false accusations
paper oriole
Ye trike gets fucked by any giga with 2+ brain cells
paper oriole
Lmao the stomp is useless 9/10 times
paper oriole
Giga gets 3 bites then waits out the trike with his superior speed and bleed res
Ive done it so many times
high leaf
then the trikes u fought where bad lmao
paper oriole
Guess 90% of trikes i fight on giga are worse than me who sucks at giga hmmm
high leaf
so what do u think that needs to be buffed with the spiky cow?
patent spade
its also that most apex players are just trash. i have seen some pretty dumb trikes in the past
paper oriole
Trike should have standing stam regen because it is slow as shit and have better bleed res tbh
patent spade
a giga and rex that knows what they are doing will win against a trike, giga just has to bleed it and rex has to leg break and assride it or facetank
high leaf
oH i KnOw A dInOsAuR.... TrIkE ill JuSt PlAy ThAt
every herbi noob ever
i mean
if u think trike needs buff
paper oriole
I suck ass with giga and i own almost every trike i fight because i can facetank equal hits from them if i dont get the jump on them and walk it off while they bleed out
paper oriole
Lmao solution to one dinosaur being a free giga burger is ‘play another one’ aight
high leaf
it is
high leaf
little did he know... this whole conversation was an advertisement for dibble gang....
patent spade
i mean dibble is best herbi
paper oriole
Anyway this isnt a suggestion we are discussing here
high leaf
fax
paper oriole
Diablo is very viable
high leaf
wait?!?!?
patent spade
i do think that apexs need some work when it comes to fighting each other if there is a way to do that without fucking the rest of the roster
paper oriole
Well you did start this diverted conversation yourself..
lucid granite
wind pier
we should all swim faster down the river stream
finite elm
Id rather have some sort of limit to mix packing than to eliminate it entirely
indigo sun
mixpacking doesnt really need to exist
hunt shit in your range if you cant kill big things without the help of something bigger
finite elm
Like certain types of dinos can actually join groups together. Like Dibble and Trikes. But a hardosaur cant mix pack/group with Pachys or sauropods
indigo sun
herbivores together isnt the mixpacking issue
i mean the rules are a tad complicated for them with that trike shit but thats generally not what people mean
finite elm
I think with the recode they could put hard limits programmed in about who can group with who or how many
That would be ideal
paper oriole
They could simply allow servers to customize which species can group up together and their limitations
Dryos can already group with trikes cant they?
Like them exclusively
shell willow
@sturdy widget Dryos can already mix herd with trikes, but only dryos.
shell willow
It's not written in the rules but yes, it is allowed
I remember when it was announced
sturdy widget
Would be great if an admin/mod could confirm cause I can't find anything stating that in the annoucements
severe idol
It also explicitly states no Carnivore Mix Packing.
sturdy widget
I thought it meant other groups excluding trike though since trike has its own section on top, thank ya.
indigo sun
@static kettle herbivores dont get strains
idle needle
The problem with the "kicks can kill" discussion is that all the animals presented had hooves. As far as I know, there are no hoofed dinosaurs in existence, much less in the game. If a lion or a wolf kicks something, it doesn't do nearly as much damage. However, kangaroos have very powerful kicks, so perhaps hypsi, being of a similar size and stature, could heavily damage with a kick.
dim ore
sometimes its about the size difference and thus the power difference..if a large animal regardless of hooves kicks you you will be damaged, plus dinosaurs have scaly hard feet, not soft padded ones like a lion or a wolf as you gave example of.. hard scaly feet backed by several tons of force..would at the very least stun its opponent if the kick is delivered to the head..and i feel its totally justified for it to kill the opponent based on its weight class.
think of an ostrich..it can do severe damage with its hard scaly feet, now imagine that ostrich is not just 300 pounds but rather a massive several ton dinosaur...it doesn't need hooves to kill...just the sheer force of its kick and body mass could kill.
ashen elm
Hadrosaurs had hooves or something very much like them actually. They really are dinosaur ungulates. 
paper oriole
even if the hadros in the isle don't have hooves, their feet look harder and bonier than those of a wolf or lion, especially their front feet which could be used to unleash a pounding on a utah or something else that has been knocked to the ground or is sitting
and maia for example has some pretty buff looking back legs that would probably be a bitch to get kicked by for the smaller dinos that it could reach with its leg
mint urchin
@severe idol So that means Galli can actually group with Trike as well?
terse fulcrum
when does the recode ACTUALLY come? they already said "at the end of february"
severe idol
Not the place for the question, but going with a hard "No one knows."
thorny crag
we neeed calls for mothers ❤️
somber parrot
@mint urchin No they can't. Only dryos.
valid zephyr
The game shouldn't tell you someone has died and what killed them.
You should look back and realise the guy behind you has vanished
and you can't rememeber when you last saw them
then you find a blood trail leading into the bushes.
and hear eating sounds.
indigo sun
that sounds horrifying i love it
pure vigil
That. Yes. I like that.
It's always more unsettling when you can watch someone's tag just....disappear.
topaz iris
@quiet horizon Dondi has already said that he may implement titanboa up on roster.
Yes talked about it on one of his streams
That and megalania he would look into
The only two animals that he would put into that aren’t dinosaurs
ebon tiger
Pteranodon isn't a dinosaur either 😛
quiet horizon
@topaz iris I'd main the heck out of Titan Boa
topaz iris
@ebon tiger you got me there lol
@quiet horizon I would too
I think that the devs should make a special Dino just for Foszor
Only accessible to him and no one else something that is special
I was gonna put it in suggestion but I didn’t know how to actually start said suggestion
Lol
quiet horizon
Titan Boa has been my favorite prehistoric critter next to Mososaurus
topaz iris
Ngl i see many problems that could effect the gameplay of it
The titanoboa is a large monster lol it can literally take on a Rex by just crushing it.... it would be the perfect ambush hunter lying in wait in the trees or lakes and rivers sizing itself up to the deino
But
ebon tiger
well, not really
topaz iris
Why’s that?
ebon tiger
Titanoboa was a damnsight weaker than people like to think
it's nearest living analogue are trunk-snakes
they're fish-eaters that just chill underwater for long periods and only use their coils to grip fish while they eat them
topaz iris
I’ve heard it so many times that this giant snake is a fish eater I just do not buy it
ebon tiger
none of that Anaconda movie stuff where it can flatten a human-sized creature
ebon tiger
apparently not, according to studies on it
topaz iris
Interesting
ebon tiger
it got big because big fish = big fish-eating snake
topaz iris
It got big due to the climate change
ebon tiger
that's not the only reason though. needs the right kind of food too
topaz iris
Indeed
ebon tiger
but we're straying off-topic
ebon tiger
they were some pretty big fish
topaz iris
But it is possible
I mean like it is very possible that the Titanoboa has eaten more than just fish
topaz iris
If it inhabited the same environment with said prehistoric crocs I would assume it could 😂
Giving that its sheer size it would need muscle to move around
Even if it dwelled in water
A video I had watched years ago
I’m not saying it’s not a fish eating snake in just saying that couldn’t be possibly the only thing it ate
But still back to the original thing
The titanoboa would be a menace😂
It would be fast and in my opinion faster than what the other dinos are capable of and just to clear things up I mean in turning and attacking
Literally doesn’t have to move it’s full body just it’s head and some parts
Gives it a Fantastic advantage against those trying to ass ride or try to sneak around and catch the titanoboa off guard
Such a beast it would have to of course be dining on LARGE fish
But since large fish that would be sustainable to the snake isn’t implemented in
Which leaves only the deinosuchus and other dinos
For potential food
It would be an absolute BEAST not to be messed with while obviously full grown at 40 ft and weighing in at 1,135 kg
ebon tiger
both those vids are horribly outdated though
in far too many ways to count
also, having owned and raised a number of snakes years ago, they don't turn that quick. not exactly
if they want to strike behind themselves, they have to pull even more of their body into the strike, , resulting in them throwing themselves a bit
topaz iris
You’re right about The pull back that would be for more power into the bite versus quick movements
Snakes are fast in general
Even for big snakes
Yes the videos are poorly outdated
But it’s still up for debate
Depending on the weather of course
In the cold snakes don’t move around as much but during the heat they move around a lot
ebon tiger
snakes can move surprisingly quick on reflex, even if cool
they just tire so much faster due to lower energy reserves
trust me, i've been bitten by a chilled snake i mistakenly thought would be unable to get me.
i thought wrong, and the little bastard moved just as quick as he did on a warm day
well, he struck as quickly as he normally would. his other movements were still slower
topaz iris
Oh interesting
I’m so fascinated by how they could possibly integrate this titan into the game
Like I wouldn’t know exactly how to play it
I’d mainly go for players especially deinos
ebon tiger
biggest issue would be animating it
ebon tiger
all those parts to apply inverse-kinetics to, and the skulls would be a nightmare to animate
topaz iris
Yeah
Like how would you use hunger for a snake that only needs to eat like once and be satisfied for a year?
ebon tiger
snakes have a horrific amount of cranial kinesis. whole damn skull comes apart when they swallow stuff
topaz iris
Meant for tackling bigger prey
ebon tiger
well, snakes generally eat pretty often, actually
topaz iris
Depending on what is eaten
For a anaconda it can go a while without having to eat again
ebon tiger
it's only when they get something really big that they take a long time to digest, and that's generally uncommon, even for the bigger snakes
topaz iris
If it ate something large enough
They tend to explode
If it’s too big they regurgitate it
ebon tiger
only if they die
topaz iris
That too
ebon tiger
they'll regurgitate stuff that's too big, aye, or if they're disturbed enough
topaz iris
But like digesting such a meal would leave you vulnerable
ebon tiger
generally, aye
topaz iris
You’d be slowed
ebon tiger
they usually hide for a while
topaz iris
Due to a large kill
Which would imply to trees
Or the murky waters
Hide up in the trees around the trunks or rest on top of the water
If they do intend on bringing the whole life like of the snake it will be extremely difficult
ebon tiger
but for the most part, snakes typically eat smaller stuff (like rabbbit-sized for an anaconda-sized snake), and will eat every couple of days, depending on temperature or activity around them
topaz iris
It’ll be cool but challenging
Indeed
I’m no snake expert
But I try to gather information and take it in
ebon tiger
never had to deal with anything as big as an anaconda myself. just basing what i know from folks i've spoken to with snakes that size. my largest was a cornsnake who got nearly 6ft long before she died
she'd go a week after downing 3 large mice before she'd be hungry again
if she ate one, she'd be hunting around again within 2-3 days
topaz iris
Exactly my point
Integrate titanoboa and eats a deino or a tenonto
Take a while to digest
ebon tiger
wouldn't be able to swallow them though
not adults
small juvies though, quite possible
topaz iris
Sub deino perhaps
Or like a juvie on the edge of sub
Still it limits what the snake can eat
Basically having it only stay on fish or juvies or low tier dinos
ebon tiger
perhaps. would need to be a pretty big boa though, and even then, unless they model it on a rock-python, it's not going to be strangling anything anytime soon
topaz iris
Perhaps
I’d like to see a titanoboa try to strangle a rex lol
Or a giga
Wouldn’t think a spino
Idk maybe
That only begs the question if a deino would attack a spino in the water
The deino has more of a edge in water
Can maneuver better
I see lots of people talk about how deino will be useless on land when that wouldn’t be the case
And generally I’m not happy about those accusations
It’ll be less effective on land than it is in water but it’s still dangerous
Crocs and gators are fast as heck on land too you’d be surprised just like how snakes tend to strike or something
covert birch
deino isnt gonna be that fast on land. Dondi was playing it onstream yesterday a bit
Didnt move as quick as ya would expect from a croc
topaz iris
Right?
Yes it may be a large crocs but it has those powerful legs that can propel itself on land
covert birch
Like on land it wont be useless exactly
Just weak for something its size
Like imo a pack of like 3-4 allos would be able to beat it on land.
topaz iris
A pack of 3-4 allows could surely take it on but I wouldn’t risk it
Crocs usually stay in groups
covert birch
Deino wont be in groups that big
covert birch
Deino speed
https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/ViscousSecretiveOwlVoHiYo?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time
its an apex
They dont want a lot of apexs
topaz iris
That is true
But still realistically they would hunt in packs or pods whatever it’s called
To take down larger prey
covert birch
this game doesnt care much about realism
covert birch
And you should balance an animal around surviving alone instead of groups
covert birch
Also about the whole titanoboa thing ya were talkin bout before
topaz iris
Mhm?
covert birch
Personally in the case it ever does come in
Ide like it as a younger stages like hatchling to fresh sub to have an arboreal lifestyle. Would add more stuff to the trees especially with filipe basically confirmed tree climbing will be a thing
Then in older stages it moves into the water
topaz iris
That’s a good way to integrate it
Makes sense really
Catches juvie pteranodons as they fly by
covert birch
Plus we are already getting swallowing stuff so that wont be as much of an issue
covert birch
The real issue is animating it and clipping stuff
topaz iris
Yeah my thoughts exactly
I love discussing things here
Even if it makes no sense
Or even is related to anything that was suggested
covert birch
Less crowded then discussion channel
topaz iris
Indeed
topaz iris
You too!
torn thistle
You know Glavenus can't be added due to copyright reasons, right Tadanobōto?
leaden zodiac
@junior crow Nice ideas mate 👌
junior crow
thank you 😄
random imp
@torn thistle are you talking to me?
thorny crag
about the spawns close to edges - they will add a falling cage so you can choose where you land anyways
pale sorrel
@junior crow I think that'd be a great idea! They should totally add that!
thin osprey
An attack for left and right click for carnivores ?
verbal badger
This suggestion wins. Could not say it any better. Really love this one.
strong forge
Would anyone else like to see different time period options to set your server as and have only the dinos from that period for example Coelophysis from the triassic, Herrerasaurus and like only dinos from that period then u could set it to other periods and have like pre land animals and it would only be an underwater world
covert birch
@strong forge
Thats already comin
random imp
thank you lol, i've been wanting to write that for a long time
strong forge
Who said it was
random imp
i do not like the walking animations right now, they are weightless
verbal badger
yeah me as well. they should a little muscle bouncing as well to make it feel like the dinos have weight
random imp
also with the tenonto, the animations weel to floaty and do not represent the mass and weight of the creature
torn thistle
No, I was referring to a suggestion to add Glavenus from Monster Hunter to The Isle
paper oriole
What wokld amboteryx fo other than eat bugs and die to everything including single compies and supply no food value for anything bigger than a velo lol
light carbon
just make velo's spawn in small groups, that would be amazing
indigo sun
@wind pier why should the devs spend money on this creature? Theres lots of other animals that can glide/fly, why this one in particular?
random imp
who tf suggested that? crazy kiddo
wind pier
@indigo sun i thought there were so few gliders that existed? i just want more activity in the sub(?) aerial dimensions, and i love gliders.
indigo sun
Its like 7k toadd a playable, so what unique abilities would it havebesides basic aerial abilities? What would it eat? What would prey on it specifically
wind pier
good questions, and tbh i don't know, maybe it could serve a purpose later on as smaller dinos and creatures are added
paper oriole
Zhenyuanlong >>> ambopteryx
barren zephyr
@hexed nexus Ever heard of the broadcast button? also known as a 1call?
hexed nexus
yeah ik
barren zephyr
or do you mean like Para loud
hexed nexus
yeah i mean para loud
barren zephyr
yikes
barren zephyr
mind if i steal that idea for a second
maybe it could scare ai too
@hexed nexus this one
hexed nexus
nope i dont mind
barren zephyr
thanks 😛
paper oriole
4 calling shouldnt attract predatory AI weak enough to be a 1-3 shot tbh
would make hunting it way too easy
pulsar lake
@barren zephyr you idea about the 3 call who made AI run away is pretty cool, especially for the small ones like Compys or Velo.
The 4 call that attract AI is a bit dumb and could be used to make little AI carnivore comes to you and then you kill them and have free food, even with new ai
random imp
3 call makes sense if you are a big predator or a big herbi and you scare smaller ones, like you are an allo and 3 calling a group if compys or velos they are scatter around to hide, but the 4 call mechanic makes no sense and is abusable
thorny crag
makes me think... how about when you are a small tier animal and a big carnivore does a 3 call next to you you get like a tunnel vision, everything around turns black and you can only see through a hole in the middle... makes it even scarier to be close to big ones
patent spade
sounds obnoxious as fuck to deal with
paper oriole
i could definitely see large preds using this to just grief small tiers
covert birch
@tepid vigil you cant just say "this animal is cool please add." You actually need to add substance to it with mechanics, playstyle, etc
tepid vigil
@covert birch sure
twin cedar
@barren zephyr Use the #general-feedback channel for suggestions only. There are channels better suited to asking questions about the game, such as #401464048610312195. Please read the channel descriptions before posting messages so we don't have to punish you.
past eagle
I mean if 3 call scares smaller AI, why can’t 4 call attract only larger or equal size AI as you?
If it was that way it can’t be abused and is a risk you take to 4 call
young pecan
Torvo is nothing like Alberto. I don't know what that reaction was on that suggestion.
paper oriole
isnt torvo just allo but slightly bigger
young pecan
As someone who is making a Torvosaurus suggestion document, I can tell you he isn't like Alberto or Allo.
He's overall heavier that Alberto and has one of the strongest bite forces of a dinosaur his size.
tepid vigil
@paper oriole it depends on which species you want to compare to allosaurus fragilis (the species the isle uses).Torvosaurus guryeni is the largest known specimen at 12 meters(39 feet) and weighing between 3.95- 4.95 tons while allosaurus fragilis is 8.5 meters(28 feet) and weighing up to 2.3 tons, but there are other allosaurus species that is about 40 feet long. so again it depends on which species of each Dino you wanna use
finite elm
A test to speak in lore discussion? Lol thats seems elitist and not very inviting to new people that are interested in the lore
past eagle
@visual current Pretty much addressed by a somewhat same suggestion it would pretty much take away the realism from the game as far as i remember the conversation
Also less scary to know who died and when instead of realizing at a later time they have disappeared
This one
paper oriole
Being able to see your dino for a short time after death would make reports a little easier because it would give you an extra moment to screenshot the rulebreaker but yeah notifications would ruin the mystery and horror aspect
past eagle
Then my solution would be to show who killed you ONLY to you after your death
visual current
Oh that makes sense
fallow needle
@visual current I would want that as a server option. :)
visual current
yes! @fallow needle
harsh silo
@velvet fox I feel like you could claim some part of the land by basically patrolling it with ur pack, staying there, scaring away everything that goes in the territory that is not from your pack, or that u don't want there, fight other dinosaurs etc. It could be done in the official servers too for example. I don't know if u meant it in the "Certain dinosaurs are more common in this area", in which case it'll already happen because of the new spawn system, or so we were told (regarding spawning in areas that suit ur dinosaur, but can also choose which in particular you'd like to spawn in)
Your other suggestion is interesting, rain affecting the water so it's harder to see what's lurking about in the water, let's say, because of the raindrops disturbing the water too much. Interesting idea indeed
noble pine
@ebon crypt or a possible short term leg injury, not really a bone break, more of that numbing feeling you get when you hurt your arm or leg and it feels like you can barely move it?
ebon crypt
Yes, that. A full on leg break might be a bit too OP. I'm just going off of stories that say that iguanas have broken some people's knees with a tail whip. Their tails might be thin, but they are jam packed with muscle. Then again, a megalania isn't an iguana so idk :T
noble pine
Yeah, I was reading up on Nile monitors and komodos and their tails are deadly, but bone break, especially on something like a rex or Giga that have huge leg bones would be pretty improbable.
random imp
a hit from a whip burns like hell, the aggressor should be unable to move for some seconds
random imp
those last 2 suggestions are so bad. at least put the name of the dinosaur correctly ( Deinocheirus is also a great debated subject already), then the adrenaline thing is an abusable mechanic, as well as the heart rate stuff.
covert birch
@hard edge when giving a suggestion to add a dino ya gotta give unique mechanics n such for it
But also for that dino specifically (deinocherius) some devs have shown interest but dondi straight up said no to it
covert birch
@barren zephyr there is no need for a system like that due to the fact
A: alt turn is being forced so dinos cant astride properly no more
B: locational damage exists now. Biting the butt deals less damage then biting the head
C: collision exists now so ya cant just run through a rex as a smaller dinos and bite them safely
D: seems like a hassle to code
Also why repost a suggestion ya made like a week ago and barely even change it
random imp
@barren zephyr there won't be such thing as utah assriding an apex after EVRIMA, the alt turn animation will prevent that
@barren zephyr there is no need for a system like that due to the fact
A: alt turn is being forced so dinos cant astride properly no more
B: locational damage exists now. Biting the butt deals less damage then biting the head
C: collision exists now so ya cant just run through a rex as a smaller dinos and bite them safely
D: seems like a hassle to codeAlso why repost a suggestion ya made like a week ago and barely even change it
@covert birch damn, you were faster
covert birch
Imma speedy boi
random imp
lol
noble pine
And on top of all of that, it’s just a bad suggestion.
pulsar lake
@hard edge you can't do suggestions like this. Give it arguments to see if it could be in the game.
I did a suggestion a long ago about Deinocheirus like some people and I would like to see it in the game. Unfortunately, Dondi seems to have another opinion on the animal..
Last good Deinocheirus suggestion has like 60 👍 and mine had like 50
indigo sun
@lusty agate the only thing i really disagree with is #3. Herbivores shouldnt be given a monitor to know when carnivores are nearby. that kinda ruins hunts. Herbivores need to be vigilant on their own. If theyre not, they end up the victim of a hunt.
lusty agate
Ik, I was gonna add to it saying idk if it is a good suggestion, but I added it there because it's an interesting idea, at least in my mind.
random imp
nah, the adrenaline stuff is also bad, if automatically in presence of a carni the herbi get a speed buff, it will be abusable to get to the carni if he just wants to get away and kill him
and the game can't decide if you need it to escape or to pursue
so is just a bad idea
lusty agate
It would be when a carni is ambushing into the field, and in my mind it'd only be a 5 second speed buff, nothing crazy like allo ambush.
Like I said, it'd only be a # km/h it wouldn't be much faster than the carni
hard edge
Sorry, I didn't read the rules beforehand. I'll be sure to read them before posting in there again. I just wanted to share a cool video I guess.
random imp
still, abusable mechanic.
latent cave
I suggested Deinocheirus a while ago but recently found this video with some some cool fights in it https://youtu.be/Egc58fSUqrA
covert birch
that video was posted in suggestions like an hour or 2 ago
Also dont forget this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423939730544132096/684481075694534702/Screenshot_20200225-130151_Discord.jpg
random imp
new dinos won't be released anytime soon, we'll prob forgot about deino, shant and all that jazz, maybe one day...
thorny crag
I think all dinos will be playable anyways. Not 100% sure tho. But server owners will be the ones who decide which dino will be playable and which wont.
valid zephyr
@left nacelle death should be a mystery to up the fear factor.
you shouldn't know what's picking you off one by one
all you know is billy is no longer behind you, and you can't remember when you last saw him
paper oriole
I think its just for your personal death screen
covert birch
^
paper oriole
Not party
left nacelle
But you wouldn't see the death message until you're actually dead. After you die that's when the whole "fear factor" thing ends anyway
covert birch
Only billy would know he died and what too
Nobody else
left nacelle
^^^
covert birch
Unless they are in vc
But people can do that anyways without this if they arent afk
valid zephyr
ah if it's on the deceased screen that's good.
night mountain
Have it give the persons name and address tied to their steam account
paper oriole
When you die you recieve your killer's credit card information
night mountain
Not against it but tbh don’t see it being useful very often. I can’t recall ever dying without knowing why aside from being like tabbed our or totally afk
paper oriole
It can probably aid in figuring out wherher you died to a predator or friendly fire from your herd/pack in messy fights but thats the most i think
night mountain
Actually know what I want a lot now that I think of it
paper oriole
Or if you die at night and could only see a desaturated glob oneshot you
paper oriole
Lmao
Yes
I want optional local vc that can be enabled in servers too to hear all the salt and toxicity
night mountain
I want voice chat so fuckin bad
paper oriole
Killing a sub rex and just hearing screeching
night mountain
Tribal Vc where it’s just everyone doing shitty caveman speak in 3rd person
paper oriole
Yes
night mountain
Being a Rex running in sheer terror as a tribal smacks you in the tail with a torch infinitely and all you hear is them just shrieking “OOG ASSRIDE” into the mic over and over
paper oriole
That would be a glorious way to die
covert birch
@paper oriole dinosauriac said this bout voicechat
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401464048610312195/651912445496918017
paper oriole
Oof
fiery edge
@glass pendant if i remember correctly in the past there was an icon for broken bones...
But was removed dont know why
glass pendant
what about health?
fiery edge
The blood around the screen remained the same... maybe something older than that showed numbers...
Older versions when hypos were still available... i think
grave karma
there used to be a screen showing your exact hunger/weight/health/thirst but it was removed
violet magnet
@lusty agate
"Pursuit dinosaurs like carnotaurus should be able to adjust their speed to their prey item"
"Herbivore should have a slight speed booster like carnivores, but instead of "ambush" they have "adrenaline" when they see a carnivore they will get a speed buff"
.....so how would an adrenaline speed boost help herbis if the pursuit predator can match their speed?
I do like the idea of giving herbis some ambush equivalent, though not so much the matching speeds or the heartbeat monitor. Heartbeat monitor would make ambushing herbis next to impossible, and matching speeds would just nullify any balance achieved through differences in speed
lusty agate
Interesting...well. The adrenaline wont help herbis all the time, if you watch predators like cheetahs and other pursuit animals today and watch their prey item, the prey could be much more agile than the predator, carno can't turn great, which will give the herbi of choice (I can't words) a better chance of escape if the carno is alone.
past eagle
I think the idea behind that suggestion is to match if it is slower then your run speed
Example carno being the fastest carnivore so far, it will always outrun any prey it chases and will always overshoot it
So from what i understand it would be to be able to run at the same speed if you can run faster then them
But you won’t match the speed of your prey if you cannot run as fast as the prey
valid zephyr
@barren zephyr Moving dibble to its real size and using one of those three animals as a drop in replacement would be cool. I like centro the most, but I think more people prefer styraco.
Dibble could maybe be given night vision in order to compensate for being small. A small nocturnal ceratopsian living in the forests at night could give dilos something to hunt.
barren zephyr
@valid zephyr thank you for the feedback😄. It sounds cool to give the dibble other abilities so it doesn’t get bad.
lilac swallow
Something to hunt? Or something to fear? @valid zephyr
valid zephyr
Both? Lone dilo would really struggle with a real sized dibble, but a group could take one down.
lusty agate
Also take into account that every dino ingame is more agile than carnotaurus. I have no doubt that carno would get juked by it's prey of choice. Yes it would be able to adjust it's speed, but no it could not out turn it's prey. Idk if cerato is a pursuit dinosaur but imagine it was chasing a herbi faster than it, it could not adjust a slower/faster speed. If they can adjust their speed faster, it would drain 2x the amount of stam that the dinosaur already uses.
As for the adrenaline issue, I can see how it'd be a problem. For the adrenaline it would only help for herbis against an ambush predator in my mind. I probably should have clarified that to begin with. and example would be a Maia v Allo, allo gets an ambush on a maia and pops out of the bushes. If it doesn't see the carni come up on it, it doesn't get the speed booster, and the allo gets a kill. But yes there are many flaws and I will think my point over more and give a well thought out suggestion on this topic.
random imp
people do not make dino balance suggestion
covert birch
@barren zephyr what is your obsession with things losing teeth? Also reacting to your own suggestion smh
barren zephyr
@covert birch realism
covert birch
Why not idk give dilo just a pounce
random imp
get the realism outta this game lol
barren zephyr
How?
covert birch
Where it injects venom instead of a "suicide bite"