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limpid prairie Feb 12, 2020, 7:00 PM

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True that, but didnt dondi actually contemplate added poop in one of his streams once? Haha

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 7:00 PM

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He was on a rant about koalas and said he may want poop

limpid prairie Feb 12, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Oh alright lol

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I may try to think of other ways to make small dinosaur more interesting but it's kind of hard to come up with things that could work in a game

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Apologies to anyone reading the Ava doc for that screwup, second page being blank should be fine now.

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:06 PM

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@fallow walrus the whole sinornithosaurus having venom was disproven. The gliding stuff is a cool idea tho but would prolly fit into more well known gliders like microraptor or archeopteryx

fallow walrus Feb 12, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Awe man that sucks for the venom but the gliding could be a cool thing since I’m sure the Pteranodon could have that feature too

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:07 PM

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we know flyers are gonna be able to glide

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Ptera specifically wont be able to go onto trees tho

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So it wouldnt do exactly what the sinornitho would do

fallow walrus Feb 12, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Maybe have a climbing animation and be able to sit on a branch and survey the ground below

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:09 PM

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If I may, if you go with the route of Sinornitho being a gliding hunter, you could have it ambush from the trees, although I sort of worry it would just become a flying Troodon

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Nah to small to be a flying troodon

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Its much closer to compy sized

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Compysizes1.png/220px-Compysizes1.png

📎 Sinornithosaurus_SIZE.png

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Then there's the issue of it being a scout.

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Holy fuck, I thought it was like Velo sized?

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Nope XD

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Damn, that's kind of a shame.

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:10 PM

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All these small gliders are practically compy sized

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:11 PM

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What about Archeo?

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:11 PM

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📎 540px-Archiesizeall1_svg.png

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pink one is archeo

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Huh, I always thought it was bigger.

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:12 PM

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This guy can be a neat glider

📎 Zhenyuanlong_size_chart.png

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Honestly I don't care much for the idea of a glider, seems too invincible if it just hangs around jungles all day.

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Herra imo would just fit better tho if they do ever do the tree climbing thing

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Wouldnt be much of an issue jaffad if climbing drained stam

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The glide itself wont drain stam but the climbing up trees to get a decent glide would

still temple Feb 12, 2020, 8:14 PM

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herrera glides with its neck flap dondiLUL

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Nah not glide herra tree pounce

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more like jaguars

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Don't you mean Leopards?

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:14 PM

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yea leopards

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but iirc some jaguars do it too

still temple Feb 12, 2020, 8:14 PM

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could honestly make for a neat herrera strain ngl

📎 pe0s78scw1p31.png

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Oh I get you

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Neuro herra gets energy from the sun like a plant then shoots lazers XD

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:15 PM

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But like, no offense I just have Jaguar Bary bias

still temple Feb 12, 2020, 8:15 PM

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ye bary fits jaguar niche more since he's more bulky imo

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despite him not going up on trees

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Bary as jaguar
Sucho As Bear
Spino as aquatic carnivorous elephant hippo child

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Jaffad quick question when ya say the Ava ramming thing Would it work similar to a parry in Dark Souls or more of just a cancel things attack

fallow walrus Feb 12, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Maybe we should ask the devs that if they ever want to implement gliding carnivores like Sinornithosaurus or like it into the game later on

torn thistle Feb 12, 2020, 8:18 PM

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~~Neuro Utah with telekinetic gliding~~

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Uh, I've never played Dark Souls.

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Mind giving me a basic rundown?

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:19 PM

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So someone in darksouls is attacking ya
You time your parry correct to stop their attack
They get stunned during this time and give you an opportunity to do an even stronger attack

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https://youtu.be/cNlQ1W9Wrlg?t=106

YouTube

TheSeraphim17

Dark Souls Parry Tutorial

This is an introduction to a possible series where I show you the parry timings to the multitude of enemies in Lordran. This specific video focuses on the Firelink Shrine.

Please enjoy

▶ Play video

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Kinda.

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But, like I said in the doc. No stunlocking, unless the thing in question is smaller than you. Inwhich you punt that fucker.

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Anything like, Utahraptor sized basically just gets their attack paried, which seems fair considering they're probably just going to pounce you and rip your throat out.

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Will ava be stationary while doing this or will it be able to move?

fallow walrus Feb 12, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I’m sure it will still be able to move

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Just depends on stamina

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Well imo against something larger ya should be standing and prepped to be able to parry it

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So like against a herra sure ya can just do the parry thing while moving

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But a utah or dilo you need to be prepared or somethin

barren zephyr Feb 12, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Well if it can’t move and stuck in an animation. Other creatures has an advantage over it

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Not really fair

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:26 PM

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For me, the pary thing is tied to the charge.

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Well in the doc it says the ava will be stunned doing it to large things

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:26 PM

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So you can't just stand in place whacking at the air, also yeah

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If you punt something, you stop

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Anything bigger, it's less stun time since you're gonna wanna be making your next move.

barren zephyr Feb 12, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Makes sense

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:27 PM

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So would charge be a seperate attack with this on top of it or just when ava is running and hitting

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Either or.

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Also the whole mud bathing thing was also mentioned for diablos by dondi

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Keep in mind Blue, this suggestion is like

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uh

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hold on

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2 years old

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give or take

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I posted the original back in december 2018

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:31 PM

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True i guess. Still important to keep more recent stuff into consideration

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Why would something like mud bathing be restricted to just Diabloceratops?

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Like, at the very least Ava and Diablo can share it.

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Never said it would. In the suggestion it was just under ava

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Would be interesting tho to see stuff like mud bathing and tree scratching give different benefits to different dinos
Like mud wallowing as a trike wouldnt cover your scent as well as lets say a dibble but would give ya some other benefit

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 8:36 PM

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True, then again I had the intention of using it for the scent cover, the stream example seemed more for uh

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How would I say this, immersion?

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Yea it was more of an immersion thing

fallow walrus Feb 12, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I know this could be a long shot but wonder if they could add in some sort of mechanic where males would normally fight over females and they full of testosterone and maybe have it to where if two trikes fight they could possibly lose a horn in the fight for females

fallow hazel Feb 12, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Since the troodon is getting poison it should effect aswell and even more when a dino bite you so like it would gIve troodon more chance To survive since it's really small

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Other dino would think before they would try To kill you

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 9:08 PM

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troodon is getting venom

fallow walrus Feb 12, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Should I edit my post about Sinornithosaurus and take out the venom part?

odd gate Feb 12, 2020, 9:27 PM

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@blazing charm spoken like someone with their namr on the wall of shame dondiSmug

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I mean

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I'm not.

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I just think it's a stupid idea.

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Considering your reaction just now, it's having the exact effect I feared.

feral wedge Feb 12, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Could have it to where you can't read the history.

odd gate Feb 12, 2020, 9:29 PM

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well as a counter its a good way to keep track of who keeps on getting multiple warnings. i know the mods already have some sort of system in place but idk it's a thought

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I mean

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That's the purpose of a strike system, and mod chats.

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But apparently people aren't entitled to that anymore.

fallow hazel Feb 12, 2020, 9:31 PM

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@covert birch sorry not english native so différence between poison and venom pls ?

odd gate Feb 12, 2020, 9:31 PM

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thing is imo you dont deserve a strike for a first time offense like posting text in a screenshot channel. a lot of the things that get warnings are small rules that can be easy to miss if you're new, or in the case of the fan art channels, the rules have changed recently without you knowing.

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 9:32 PM

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@fallow hazel
Poison = if it eats you the thing eating you dies
Venom = if you bite it the thing you bit dies

fallow hazel Feb 12, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Oh thanks

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 9:33 PM

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True, but at the same time minor offenses shouldn't be permanately visible in a seperate channel

odd gate Feb 12, 2020, 9:33 PM

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thats also a fair point

fallow hazel Feb 12, 2020, 9:33 PM

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But the troodon even in pack is going to be quite bad when we look at the weight irl and all

covert birch Feb 12, 2020, 9:34 PM

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it wont. Itll be able to kill midtiers dondi said

odd gate Feb 12, 2020, 9:34 PM

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if im reading what you're saying correctly then you're worried that people wil use it as a reason to discriminate against users?

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Yeah

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I mean, that's kinda the first thing you did

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Unless you were just joking

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but, this community does have a history with discriminating each other over the stupidest reasons.

fallow hazel Feb 12, 2020, 9:35 PM

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oh yes i love it so i'm happy now lol

odd gate Feb 12, 2020, 9:37 PM

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yeah, for the record i was joking but that type of thing is easily misinterpreted in this kind of context. i think its something that will have to go through some trial and error, and figure out how to balance usefullness and how it might affect the community

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I think the problem is, lately moderation has been kinda treated like a smaller community, and not a massive one that represents a game.

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Starting to wonder if this is slightly offtopic, since this is more of a suggestion on the discord itself.

odd gate Feb 12, 2020, 9:40 PM

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probably is offtopic, if you wanna continue this convo we can migrate there

blazing charm Feb 12, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Sure.

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 12:30 AM

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@feral sedge thats what dondi said will happen. Ya gotta find and be next to them to invite them

topaz iris Feb 13, 2020, 3:09 AM

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@rare bone It’s a good idea to me because for those who have no idea where exactly they are and be told to pull up a map it’s not gonna help them any if they don’t know where on the map they are

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 4:39 AM

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@sand dagger it was going good. Then you used the dreaded words percentage chance

sand dagger Feb 13, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I can remove it

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Then remove it and make it not some ring bs

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Cuz any rng in combat is bad

sand dagger Feb 13, 2020, 4:41 AM

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So are you telling me, that u want a rex getting a hold of brachis head to be insta kill?

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 4:41 AM

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No

sand dagger Feb 13, 2020, 4:41 AM

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well then there has to be a chance it gets away. stam battle?

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 4:41 AM

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I don't want rex to grapple brachi head XD.

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And when you say percentile chance

sand dagger Feb 13, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Well then youre not helpful in this are u

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 4:42 AM

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It makes it seem random

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Instead of an actual fight

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Hell can brachi head even fit in any of these things mouths?

sand dagger Feb 13, 2020, 4:43 AM

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aight made it a stam battle

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not the head then the throat u get what i mean

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 4:44 AM

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says not the head
for rex mentions crushing the skull

sand dagger Feb 13, 2020, 4:44 AM

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You know, I always try to find a compromise n its annoying that u just shut it down without doing the same. You obviously get my reasoning so just adapt it

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I didnt do anything other than say what I read

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Plus I doubt any apex would win a stam battle against brachi

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Unless the brachi ran everywhere but no point in that since ya barely move faster

sand dagger Feb 13, 2020, 4:46 AM

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well brachis stam would drain faster bc it has its throat in the mouth of a deino or rex and its being crushed, that tends to cause lack of oxygen which kills u as the game has shown

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omg, instead of stam its oxygen

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 4:46 AM

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No

sand dagger Feb 13, 2020, 4:46 AM

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cause oxygen is already in the game

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Both

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Once stam is out then oxygen pops up

sand dagger Feb 13, 2020, 4:47 AM

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ima fix the suggestion

paper oriole Feb 13, 2020, 5:35 AM

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yo that hurts to read

fallow hazel Feb 13, 2020, 5:54 AM

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@sand dagger i quite like the idea and for the small it would be cool if they all go on the throat at the same time then it would cause a lot of damage and all

covert birch Feb 13, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Personally I'm fine with 1 guy grappling giving other guys enough time to go and bite the neck
Otherwise a solo anything even if it's rare shouldnt kill brachis

thorny crag Feb 13, 2020, 4:25 PM

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there has to be some kind of hit animation - when you get hit you stumble/shout/move around for a short while where you cannot react - then you can bring a bracci to fall with a group of gigas or else

thorny crag Feb 13, 2020, 4:57 PM

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or just make bracci superslow when it's walking uphill, carnis will wait for a right opportunity to attack then

upbeat vessel Feb 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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@thorny crag I like that idea, and also #GriffithDidNothingWrong

novel steeple Feb 13, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Anyone know how I can try and fix the sound in-game?? I have an Alienware PC - Windows 10 and I’ve tried going through Windows Volume Mixer, nothing seems to work! Not even re-installing or restarting my computer

twilit pewter Feb 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I think it's just the games sound tbh

zinc fern Feb 14, 2020, 12:02 AM

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could you try uninstalling and reinstalling the game?

paper oriole Feb 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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imagine risking your life fighting over a bush

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and that's not even really a suggestion i mean you can already act stupid and start a fight over bushes with other people as it is

patent spade Feb 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

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why waste time and money putting in some feature that you can just do rn XD

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just kill the herbi and eat the food if you want

paper oriole Feb 14, 2020, 6:59 AM

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plot twist; Blaque is just a carni player who wants herbivores beating eachother up so they can be killed easier

patent spade Feb 14, 2020, 7:34 AM

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lol

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or no one wants to rp fighting over bushes on whatever realism server they come from

valid zephyr Feb 14, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Herbs can already fight each other

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Nothing stopping you

pseudo valley Feb 14, 2020, 1:23 PM

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For all the suggestions saying Herbs should fight over bushes or whatever just RP the damn thing instead of adding a pointless mechanic for it

barren zephyr Feb 14, 2020, 1:25 PM

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@barren zephyr cant wait to hurl myself off a cliff to potentially hit and kill someone

pseudo valley Feb 14, 2020, 1:31 PM

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@violet magnet That run longer perk is a kill not gonna lie

violet magnet Feb 14, 2020, 1:32 PM

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a wha

pseudo valley Feb 14, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Run longer, "85%" cut down on sprint? Oh that's bad

violet magnet Feb 14, 2020, 1:33 PM

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maybe 90%

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idk maybe it just has the faster food drain and no speed decrease...?

pseudo valley Feb 14, 2020, 1:33 PM

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90% are you crazy

indigo sun Feb 14, 2020, 1:41 PM

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If i'm reading this right 10-15% decrease in speed isnt that much if you're running 20% longer but i dont think perks need to be "you get x but it decreases y by about the same percentage." What good is running longer if other members of your species can just outspeed you and get you. unless thats how they said it would be, since I've missed quite a few dev streams.

violet magnet Feb 14, 2020, 1:41 PM

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trying to figure out the math

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bleh fuck it, i'll just go with the faster hunger drain for that one

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:07 PM

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it wasnt supposed to be released today. Dondi was not only drunk when he said valentines day but he never directly mentioned anything about recode
Just gave an eta for QA then said well have a nice valentines day

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Fucking yes @viral creek

viral creek Feb 14, 2020, 9:38 PM

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thx man

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:46 PM

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AI Compies follow you > playable Compy swarm @covert birch

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:46 PM

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The playable swarm compy is literally ai compys following the 1 you control

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Fight me

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:46 PM

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They are literally the same thing

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I choose to spawn in as a male compy
I spawn in as a male with a female who mimics me like skyrim followers do

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then ya go out n find yourself some buddies or make some yourself

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Omfg mimicking would be cringe, they should follow the lead one instead of all moving at the exact same time

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:48 PM

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I dont see how what you just said is any different to what i said

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Mimics = follows movements and attacks what you attack

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:49 PM

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What I mean is, what I think you've been trying to say is playing as multiple Compies at once, and I'm saying only play as one but have the AI Compies follow you

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Then we are saying the exact same thing

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Cuz im saying. YOu play 1 compy and there are ai who follow you and mimic you

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Well in that case, fuck me lol

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:49 PM

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And then with more compys you have more bonuses ya get

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Btw the stealing stuff for decoration idea is cool af

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Lemme grab the even larger suggestion rq which had velos too

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It explains it 10x better

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DM-VKtTKl_pk1XXIHJ8mH-C8Iw0tdR9N6yjDfsr15Pk/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Swarm Playables

Swarm Playable Compy/Velo: How Swarm Playables Work: If you choose velo you would choose to spawn in with 1 or 2 velos. If you chose compy you would choose to spawn in with 1 to 4 compys.To increase your swarm you can either nest in more of your species or find ai of your spec...

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Why'd you delete your suggestion?

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Ide rather post the doc

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Oh

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Which explains it 10x better than that suggestion did

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Gotta edit it a bit tho

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Since when i wrote it i completely forgot how large velo was

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Btw you should just start with just one

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:51 PM

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compared to compy

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:52 PM

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And be able to remove them from your swarm

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Nah ide prefer 2 that way you can nest in more when you find gore piles n etc

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Remove them from your swarm by killing n eating em

tender latch Feb 14, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Is there anything we actually agree on? rip

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Let's go to #401464048610312195 to try to think of Isle shit we agree on

covert birch Feb 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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alright

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:02 AM

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@dim ore why do u need to sniff while moving as a herb? is the plant gonna escape?

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Makes migrating easier

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Which idk why that would be an issue really

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Plus if herbis will still be able to smell corpses will let the herbi see any nearby possible threats

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 4:06 AM

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i agree, being able to sniff while moving would really help herbivores

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as it currently is, you have to stop frequently to sniff, and a standing sniff takes longer than a moving sniff (from what i can tell when playing a carnivore), so you're effectively making yourself more vulnerable by constantly stopping to navigate to edible plants

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if herbis could sniff on the move, that greatly reduces their vulnerability there

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it also saves time you could better spend reaching food or water

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Like sniffing while moving wouldnt really be any kinda gamebreakin mechanic for herbis

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so idk why it shouldnt be a thing

patent spade Feb 15, 2020, 4:10 AM

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if herbis dont get the sniff while moving stuff then i atleast hope that some of them dont take as long as they currently do

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:10 AM

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have you ever been in a large para herd..and traveling at night..its quiet..you all cant see..so everyone starts sniffing..its so loud and ridiculous..totally gives away our position to any carnivores near by.

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Some herbis also moan loud as fuck when they sniff which makes it even worse

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 4:11 AM

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so do some carnivores, so that's not a convincing argument

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Stopping to take 10 seconds to rear up and moan loudly when a carni can take one second to sniff quietly on the move is a huge annoyance

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 4:12 AM

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aye

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:13 AM

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thats the point its supposed to give carnis a chance to ambush if they've been waiting for an opportuinity and it also stops herbivores from tracking down carnis and killing them like bloodhounds

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Being able to move while sniffing is mostly a tracking ability anyways

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herbs dont need that

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Carnis already have every chance to ambush, they have ambush speed and herbis often chill in herds

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Just make it so herbis dont smell footprints when sniffing on the move, easy

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Herbis having to remain still while sniffing makes them vulnerable. I think it should stay that way.

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:14 AM

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but that doesnt make sense, why wouldnt they smell the footprints thats a huge nerf to them

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Herbis are much less played anyway carnis often end up hunting ai or eachother

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I said while on the move

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Not while standing to sniff

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Did you read

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:15 AM

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carnivores have the option of walking and sniffing, its usually a shorter animation and usually quieter as well.

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herbies only have the long loud one.

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:15 AM

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i dont care whether on the move or not, it just makes it over complicated

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:15 AM

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No it doesnt lol

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:15 AM

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its fine the way it is tbh, just give herbs shorter sniffs

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*animation wise

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Carnivores in fairness should have a sniff "timer" if you will that mirrors herbis. However herbis sniffing while remaining still is an essential mechanic that makes for vulnerability of herbis.

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:16 AM

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^

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:16 AM

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if people dont want herbies sniffing footprints then running down carnis i get that..just make it so footprints dont show if they do the walk sniff.

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:16 AM

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If you move while sniffing as herbi you smell everything but footprints, if you stand still you smell those too. How is that overcomplicated at all?

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:16 AM

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to me its fair

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but not letting herbies walk and sniff at all is a huge pain in the arse

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just my observation.

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:17 AM

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How many times do you stop to sniff? do u not know where youre going?

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To me it seems unnecessary but i see your point

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:18 AM

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we stop to sniff all the time at night..hard to navigate without sniffing when its dark

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Having to stop and stand still for several seconds to make loud noises is just another inconvenience to deter people from the underplayed herbivore faction

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No reason not to fix

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:18 AM

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and having to stop a whole herd for everyone to moan and groan for a full minute over and over is annoying

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agreed bufftrike 👍

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:19 AM

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I think if sniffing only reveals food while moving, not water or footprints it would be acceptable. Most people know the maps enough to find water and the foot prints are self explanatory.

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:20 AM

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I dont see why it wouldnt reveal water, it should just exclude footprints

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:21 AM

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So that herbis are still forced to stop and sniff.

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Thats an inconvenience

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Not necessary

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Just a deterrence to play it

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:22 AM

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not really

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Yes really

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:22 AM

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makes it so that herbis still have a vulnerable time if they're in search of water.

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Herbivores are much less played than carnivores they dont need a bunch of quality of life reduction piled on them to help keep them that way

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:23 AM

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I don't think they're played less because of that though.

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:23 AM

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They are already vulnerable to ambush because they lack the speed boost of an ambushing carnivore

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:24 AM

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People play Carnis because people like to hunt not just sit and eat bushes. They want a more active playstyle not just sitting and eating leaves

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Its one of many reasons people wouldnt like to play it

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:24 AM

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seriously if you are that bad at hunting as a carnivore player that you require your prey to have game mechanics to cripple them just to give you an easy time..then i feel bad for you..sorry mate but forcing an inconvenient and unrealistic mechanic on an entire faction is not good gameplay in my opinion.

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:24 AM

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I've never heard a herbi player of all my hours on pachy, complain about sniffing.

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Ive played with people who said they hated herbi because they hate stopping to sniff as one of the reasons

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Among other reasons but thats one reason

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:25 AM

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@dim ore no need to make personal attacks, it's just an opinion.

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:25 AM

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not an attack..its just an opinion

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Exactly dapper

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Carnis already have plenty of advantages both in population and mechanics, they dont need herbis to stand still sniffing to hunt, and carnis hunt eachother all the time anyway

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I think that herbis should be made stronger stat wise so that any fight is a risk to either side. But having a vulnerable time as a herbi for predators to get the upperhand isn't to make up for a lack of skill. It's to create an opportunity for carnis to get the upper hand

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Plus talking about a sniffing mechanic, you can throw away the current systems and populice because it will all change with the recode, or at least appears it will.

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:28 AM

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They are vulnerable while grazing (when it comes), lots of them moan when they drink which gives away their location

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:28 AM

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True, I guess I did forget about grazing

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I mean, as a carni player I guess I'm a little bias'd. Something that's more so quality of life then actual game changing sounds like a good idea. Plus with the grazing becoming a thing, having a vulnerable moment already exists.

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For herbis.

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Many herbis who have the option will probably spend more time grazing than eating bushes, its likely to take longer to fill hunger that way so theyll be stationary

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:30 AM

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I didn't even think about that. Great point 😄

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:32 AM

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what about the chat suggestion

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i feel like this current one is beating a dead horse

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Yea no diff species shouldnt talk to eachother in local imo

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Unless its like a server option

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Agreed.

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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why not

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Simple it prevents mixpacking

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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because the existence of chat between diff species just opens the gate for mixpacking and even megapacking.

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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As a server option where they could specify which species they wanted grouped itd be nice

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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^

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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^

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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...

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:34 AM

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I mean if servers are willing to accept the risks and make it optional I don't see a problem

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:34 AM

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i feel like the point is to stop mix packing but then also allow some mixed herding because symbiotic relationships exist

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Hell i play on a server that lets diff stuff of the same faction mixpack from time to time. Diff expeirence of the game still fun
if diff servers can provide diff experiences then its great

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:34 AM

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If servers have rules where certain tiers can mixpack they could qllow that, servers that have herds, etc

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:35 AM

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sabre if your lookin for that symbiostic relationship calls can do that
like if a dryo sees a rex before the trikes it will 4 call and prolly run into burrows

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:35 AM

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problem is herbis love to give locations if they can talk to each other across a map and between species..makes it intollerable for canivores to hunt

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Would at the least make people in herds and mixed packs more likely to use ingame chat than keep their dinos silent in discord

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Discord will always be used

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:35 AM

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A local chat only

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:35 AM

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hmmm to clarify, we're only talking about local chat right?

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:35 AM

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No matter how many ingame systems happen

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As long as ya make sounds when typing discord and any other platform will be used more often

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No way to properly stop it

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Yeah, it's too bad but that's the reality

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:36 AM

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@dim ore im pretty sure the guy said local chat

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Even then. Dryo goes scout out the map. Goes back to their maia buddies to tell them where they last saw 3 dilos

paper oriole Feb 15, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Dryo scout can tell them in a private chat too

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:38 AM

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thats.. ok?

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:38 AM

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No

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no it isnt

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:38 AM

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im not saying its okim just wondering what your point is. people are going to do it either way

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Yes but it would be lessened without it

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It obv wouldnt be eradicated but yes lessened

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:40 AM

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the benefits outweigh the negatives, devs will be able to group certain dinos they want together in herds cause people will be like "oh i can talk to this species so i wanna hang around them and not be lonely" or whatever. cause currently being the only one of your kind in a herd is boring as fuck, its not enjoyable at all calls just dont do it. If youre a good carnivore you can sneak pasts the scouts thats the purpose, itll actually take skill to hunt

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:40 AM

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when i say scouts

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for the dryo thing i mean like not an area around nests

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I mean like trikes are parked here. Dryos skower the map then go back to the parked trikes to tell em where tsuff is

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But again as a server option would be 10/10

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And even then scouts for specific areas like nesting grounds can be easily replicated by calls

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:41 AM

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i dont know many people who go scout the map and report back, either you cant the things freakin huge just wait till the scouts go away then hunt

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:41 AM

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agreed, if its just local chat then its usually no problem imo

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:42 AM

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yeah, its just for local

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so you wont be able to do that anyways

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Yes you can

still temple Feb 15, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I personally dont mind if "similar" species could group up, e.g. Ceratopsians like Ava, Diablo and Trike

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:42 AM

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people do it now

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:42 AM

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thats cause its global chat and u can talk across the map

still temple Feb 15, 2020, 4:42 AM

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or Maia + Para

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:42 AM

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l.o.c.a.l

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:42 AM

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No in officials

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Ive seen dryos walk across the map

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Then lead their trike friends to apexs n stuff

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Flaffy I agree that would be neat 😄

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:43 AM

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thats because they cant talk in local chat so they go to discord and then they can all talk there

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:43 AM

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gonna be hard to avoid that..with vcs and private discords anyhow.

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:43 AM

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^

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Keeping it ingame makes people not want to talk outside of ingame

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:43 AM

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And how will allowing it also stop that?

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Like in the end

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Yes but preventing it completely, and discouraging it/making it harder are very different

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:44 AM

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people will use discord over the game as long as ya make sounds

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Because ive been in packs with people who dont wanna join vc even though they can have their mics muted, and would rather talk in chat

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i have no idea why but people do that a lot

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:44 AM

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enter my ping system shrinks back into hole

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:44 AM

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The whole simialr species grouping with eachother is fine imo for just hadros since hadros "dont have natural defenses" they can have that as some kinda unique mechanic

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:45 AM

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" certain species should be able to talk to each other in local chat"

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certain species.

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 4:45 AM

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did we say it would stop it? if anything it just makes the game nicer for herbies to chat with select species in their local area...sadly it wont solve the issue of private discords and ppl being scouts..hopefully the game has so much new things to offer we wont have those who are so bored they are willing to walk across a whole map just to lead a trike to an apex.

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:45 AM

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His example used dryo and stego

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Im specifcally talkin hadros only

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:45 AM

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It wont solve the issue compleltely but it would discourage it

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Wouldnt really discourage it

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Well it was 1 example blue.

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Plus the hadro thing i meant like

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full on groups

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not local chat

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Like invite x guy to your herd

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Also it would because again, people are lazy and if they can talk in local chat with other species they would rather do that, but if theyre lonely and bored theyre more likely to want to join a discord vc

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Idk but i havent been bored with same species only

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Like nobody else ik has had that issue

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As long as people actively talkin =/= boring

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:47 AM

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the reason u dont know them is because theyre alone blue

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:47 AM

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But thats subjective so 🤷‍♂️

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:47 AM

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and they cant talk to anyone cause theres no one of their species

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thats the point

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Bruh i play bary XD

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ik that feelin

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Go make yourself not bored.

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I do it all the time

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:48 AM

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so why wouldnt u want to talk to like an austro or something

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Because I'd kill it dondiLUL

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Cuz why would i talk to something that would A: compete with fish for me
B: Prolly be giggling a shitton which is annoying
C: Easy food

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Instead of idk. Remove those 3 issues easily

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Cause ive been in a massive herd as maia and there are trikes and dibbles and shit all around, and there are carnivores near by and a shit ton of stuff is going on but its fucking boring when you cant talk to people

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it doesnt have to necessarily be an austro thats just an example

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just something u can have a symbiotic relationship. instead of eating the austro you guys could hunt fish together and drive them towards each other

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sustainable food instead of a one time meal

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and after u kill it then what

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youre back to being lonely

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and bored

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I at least have the fish as my company and meal dondiLUL Sorry i'm not helping

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Think long+ big picture/term

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Long picture (for this example) = austro eating some of my food and taking up some of my space. Only useful thing it can be is cannon fodder for a deino

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Or, think about this, you and the austro hunt together and help eacher gain even more food, and it could warn you when theres a deino coming because its an extra set of eyes

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Dont always gotta be so aggressive

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Austro and me hunt together -> i have less food in the end

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:52 AM

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dondiSquint

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Like what?

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:52 AM

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No, you have more, because its easier to hunt. less fish escape because its on the other side of the shoal and you both can hunt them

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Combined we have more

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But then when ya take into consideration the austro gotta eat too

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Thats like saying when hunting in packs u have less food, no, you have more because you can kill more things

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Then well ya know

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:53 AM

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yeah austros dont have a big stomach now do they

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Or you could eat the fish and they eat the scraps win win either way

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:53 AM

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we have no idea how much hunger it will have or how much food fish will even give

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Do you know realize how symbiotic relationships work? theres a reason they exist

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Yes ik how they work

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:54 AM

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because its more beneficial to both parties

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Badger and coyote, eel and group, etc

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Thats like saying groupers get less food because the eels eat the ones that go into crevices

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Badger and coyote
Only 1 gets food
Eel and group same story

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They get less food tho

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Literally lose a possible meal

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:55 AM

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if they got less food then why would they work together blue. come on.

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galli2

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:55 AM

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So what if all the fish go into the crevice

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Why would they work together to collectively get less food

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Grouper eats nothin

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:55 AM

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I cant tell if youre trolling

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Im not

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:55 AM

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The eels drive the fish that would escape the grouper out of the crevices

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so the grouper gets more fish than it would otherwise

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:56 AM

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And the grouper drives the fish into the crevice

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:56 AM

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and the eel gets more by the grouper driving fish into crevices it can get into

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 4:56 AM

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tbh that's more by chance than the eel actively helping the grouper

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Yes but in the end the 2 dont share food

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:56 AM

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No they dont, but its more effective for both

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thats the point

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thats mutualism

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and it works otherwise why the fuck would they do it

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 4:56 AM

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and besides, the larger predator would readily eat the smaller one, regardless of the benefit it may reap by not eating it

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:56 AM

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^

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:56 AM

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...no it wouldnt

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Yes it would

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 4:57 AM

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yes, yes it would

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Have you seen sharks and cleaner fish? tf?

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Unless it wasnt worth the hunt

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 4:57 AM

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there's a massive difference between cleaner wrasse and sharks

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Theres a reason coyotes dont eat badgers when they can both work together

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thats not how symbiotic relationships work at all

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 4:57 AM

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plus, cleaner wrasse actually do benefit larger fish, unlike the eel/grouper example

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Cuz badgers are fucking badass and would risk the coyotes life

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Or because they both get more chances to get food than they otherwise would

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 4:58 AM

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badger would honestly end a coyote if it felt like it

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:58 AM

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^

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 4:58 AM

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even if the coyote is slightly bigger, badgers are tenacious things with a lot of attitude

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:58 AM

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In the end basically 1 will benefit over the other. Less buddy buddy as ya saying and more 1 is the boss the other is the horse

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:59 AM

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you're joking

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:59 AM

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The whole cleaner fish and sharks would be an interesting thing tho with compys and apexs

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:59 AM

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please tell me you're joking right now

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 4:59 AM

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No

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i am not doing a joke

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Do you really not understand symbiotic relationships and their purpose?

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And how theyre beneficial

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well mutualism is anyways

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Why would a grouper and eel work together if they both arent getting more just tell me that. Tell me why.

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:00 AM

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dude in the end 1 benefits over the other. Why risk the 50/50 chance of being the 1 on top when instead ya can just kill the other

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:00 AM

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because you seem to know more about how much the eel gets than the eel itself

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because thats called commensalism, when one gets more than the other

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:00 AM

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And thats what happens

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commensalism

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:00 AM

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well one benefits the other is not affected

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But im not talking about that, im talking about mutualism they both benefit

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They both benefit because theyre both getting more fish that would escape otherwise

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:01 AM

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In the end either the eel or the grouper will get the short end of the stick

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Why take the chance of getting the short end of the stick When ya can get both ends by literally eating the thing.

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:01 AM

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you must know a lot about how much eels and groupers are eating cause u seem to know whats better for them than the animals themselves

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Because its stupid blue, you could have more sustainable food than just one short meal

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thats the point

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Stop thinking short term

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Or ya know. Eat the austro then eat the fish that the austro wouldve eaten

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Or you know, the fish escape cause you cant be everywhere at once

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:02 AM

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plus Groupers don't care, they'll eat pretty much anything they think they can swallow, including that eel

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:02 AM

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and u starve to death

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:03 AM

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they'll even take a bite at divers, if they're large enough

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:03 AM

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its also boring to eat ai all the time

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Yes its boring to kill ai all the time
(thats why you kill the player austro)

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:03 AM

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...

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Yes but the point is, you're catching more with the austro then you would solo hence more food. Even if he's taking a small portion you're still reaping the benefits because individually you're reaping more then either of you would solo. When you rinse and repeat this you're not contesting for food because you're getting more than you would be able to without the relationship.

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:03 AM

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besides, let's think about this from a gameplay perspective;
that Austro will provide a larger meal than any fish will

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Yall seeing this right?

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Austro will feed a good 8x more then a fish

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:04 AM

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The point isnt food the point is to cure the boredom you get from eating ai so you have a person to talk to while you play the game

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and youre also loosing another set of eyes to look for predators

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:04 AM

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yes, but the austro helps you get 16x more fish then you normally would get making keeping the austro as your pet, worthwile

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:04 AM

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^

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again, stop thinking short term,

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:05 AM

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okay... then what if say... an Allo comes by and noms your "pet" Austro?

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Then you have a bad pet austro dondiLUL

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:05 AM

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and being so aggressive, why u wanna kill the austro anyways. Would you rather eat 1 austro or have a set of eyes to watch for predators, get more fish together, and have a person to talk to

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:05 AM

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you gain nothing there

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:05 AM

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you gain something from not being the thing the allo hunted

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:05 AM

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eat the austro

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:05 AM

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you get to live dondiSquint

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Then be smart and go find other players of my race

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:06 AM

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the only thing in the water that could threaten a Deino is the occasional Spino

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:06 AM

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some dinos arent popular blue and you dont know the amount of players online

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Deino is quite occasional too

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Deino will manage just fine without a "pet" watching

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:06 AM

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whos talking about deino

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:06 AM

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maybe lets move onto other examples. Cuz like the austro bary one aint goin nowhere

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Well its cause im bringing valid points and youre repeating the same things

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so ofc its not going anywhere

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dondiSquint

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Again. YOur points dont solve this 1 issue
Austro body + my fish > austro fish + my fish

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Ill get more food in the end with what i can catch and the corpse then the fish itself

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:07 AM

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No you wont, because the austro wont last hours

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Unless your saying i kill the austro after it fishes

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but that aint mutuliasm

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Thats the other thing

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:08 AM

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that's opportunism

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:08 AM

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you collectively
get more
over time
over time
over a period of time
the benefit
outweighs
eating the
austro
what do you not understand

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Youre getting more fish by the end of the day

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:08 AM

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we understand plenty

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:08 AM

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so then why are you repeating the same thing ive already debunked

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Youre getting MORE

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M O r e

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Yes but the point of a symbiotic mutualism relationship, is that the amount of food the austro is providing with the assistance of fishing outweighs his value as a meal and the fish he's eating that you could be. For example: You kill the austro get say 200 food (numbers are unimportant and have no actual value, just using them as an example) Say the fish only provide 10 food. You kill the austro and say get 5 fish. You've gotten 250 hunger. However with keeping the austro alive you manage to catch 30 fish. The amount of food the austro provides with its assistance will eventually outweigh the amount you'd get from initially killing it. (again the values are just to use as an example, not to reflect what will be in the isle)

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:09 AM

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^

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they get it

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:09 AM

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do you seriously believe that most players besides maybe a literal handful are going to go out of their way to have a mutual relationship revolving around fish?

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Not to mention you get an extra set of eyes to watch for predators, and youre not bored

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:09 AM

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We are literally talking about human beings. THey will go around and KOS as many bastards as possible

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Meh maybe, but i'm just trying to help you guys understand symbiotic mutualism relationships xd

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 AM

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its not justfish that was just an example

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 AM

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^

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 AM

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oh i understand just fine, Kermit

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 AM

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There are more people that would do this than u think

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 AM

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i also understand that this is a game, and most people will never act like this

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 AM

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The reason you dont see them is because theyre bored and they log off

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dondiSquint

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Ik a lot of people who will

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 AM

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THey wont ever do this

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You know a lot of people who say they will. In the moment who knows what will happen

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Realism server people will love this, and dont discard them theyre a huge part of the community

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:11 AM

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even if you manage to round up a dozen or so people to try this, it will be very short-lived

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:11 AM

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It's not a dozen, it's 2 people.

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Realism server people are the same people who support Body down and No kos

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Tbh i just see the benefits, and if u want to be a lonely ass just kill the austro. the point is just to have someone u can talk 2

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and u need to be able to talk in local chat

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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because let's face it, for every 1 person who's happy to try this, there's 50+ who won't care and would just kill the other animal

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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so why do you care? u get to kill the animal anyways

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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And they have that ability, and the few people who enjoy it could do it. So what's the harm?

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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^

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Let people vibe

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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also, tbh, speaking to other species in local is risky. it's open to being exploited

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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There'd be enough people doing it to make it worth while in all honesty

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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and if youre a good predator you'll avoid being seen by the austro or bary

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Or ya know

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Im another bary

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see bary talking to austro in local

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:13 AM

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@ebon tiger how

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Wait till they both fish and then kill em both steal their shit

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:13 AM

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then u do u

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:13 AM

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And that's the risk they take and that's the benefit you reap blue.

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Literally other people will be able to use local against ya

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:13 AM

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it should be obvious how it would be exploited

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:13 AM

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its an asshole move but u do u. or the austro could spot u and warn the other bary

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thats the point

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:14 AM

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If it was limited to similar species, IE para and maia I don't think there'd be abuse of it.

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:14 AM

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again, itll actually take skill to hunt

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Im fine with similar species

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Maia para etc would work perfectly imo

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:14 AM

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doesnt have to be with similar species, devs can get creative with this

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:14 AM

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similar could work, to an extent, though it's still awkward

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i mean, a dog doesn't understand a cat

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:14 AM

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...

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wat

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Well i mean they arent wrong

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:15 AM

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yeah, idk I was just weighing in on the whole symbiotic relationship thingy. Haven't thought about local chat enough to really formulate and further opinions and I want to go to bed. G'night all 😄

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:15 AM

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dondiSquint

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Gn kermit

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:15 AM

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night kermit

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:15 AM

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my point is, having local open to other species is just too open to exploitation by potential threats, and doesn't even make sense anyway

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Also it really depends how fishing works (for this example)

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Anyways if the devs wanted two species to have a relationship they could do that easily by allowing them to chat, if its being exploited they can close that off, the point is that the option is there

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:16 AM

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local is basically a more advanced version of the calls, and having it limited to your own species makes sense

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:16 AM

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thats what we have rn and its boring af

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Again if it were to be made optional per server ide be all for it

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:16 AM

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that's where my "dog doesn't understand a cat" came in

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:16 AM

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realism doesnt matter

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:17 AM

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even if a Para is a hadrosaur like a Maia, it won't understand it

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:17 AM

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bruh

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Kissen has stated they wont make it insanely unrealistic sabre

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:17 AM

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none of them understand each other

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:17 AM

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She said they wanna find a balance between it n all that stuff

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:17 AM

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they lived millions of years apart

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:17 AM

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no shit

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:17 AM

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That doesnt matter

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:17 AM

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But anyways

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:18 AM

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my point is, there's just no need to open Local chat to cross-species

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Im just saying that the devs could decide what species they want together, whether its dryo and stego or hypsi and fcking para or some shit idk

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:18 AM

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You can perfectly survive on your own with your own species or by yourself

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Literally game is balanced each dino on how it lives by itself

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Personally ide prefer symbiosis done through unforced ways

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Players learn it instead of player A telling it to player B

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like a herra learns "oh maybe this rex wont kill me if i spook the dryo out its nest for it" instead of herra literally telling the rex thats what hell do

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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That. is. boring. as. fuck. Because theres not always your own species and the map is huge unless you go around spamming invites its lonely and boring and people just log off. it gives something to do, new ways for difference species to interact, allows for new methods of hunting, makes it easier to inact those methods of hunting, and discourages people from leaving the game chat to go talk in discord which is worse for everybody

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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it's easy enough to communicate cross-species through the current call system, just by memorising the calls and interpreting their actions

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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What is boring = subjective sabre

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Im normally a lone pachy

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Yet i make myself have fun

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Not everyone is like that

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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if you know how to flick your mouse right, you can even nod or shake your head, with some species

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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people need interaction, humans are social creatures

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u need to be able to talk to people otherwise the game gets boring

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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And they interact with calls, ingame dance moves (spam q and crouching), etc

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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so you would rather see a herrera t bag a carno than just let the two talk

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and the herrera tell the carno what its plans are, and if the carno doesnt like it it can eat the herrera anyways

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Pretty much

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Why would it need to tell though?..

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I think I'll have to agree with Blue here

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Just go do what your plan is

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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You don't need to tell me, just.. act and I'll figure it out..

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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^

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Because if you want to ambush a dryo out of a burrow thats not easy to convey when u cant talk

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Just.. ambush the dryo out, even if I don't get the dryo that time

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Carnos gotta figure it out for himself

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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I will see what you did

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And go "Oh, wait, that might be useful"

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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^

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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or maybe the carno doesnt have the foresight and eats the herrera bc it doesnt understand when they both couldve had more food

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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THen thats the carnos fault

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Well then the carno will miss on the opportunity

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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and if youre as aggressive as blue u just eat everything in sight

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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And maybe the herrera will find another, smarter carno next time

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Nah sabre i just hate austros

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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so thats why

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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But even then

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no local

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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good to know that a viable game mechanic is clouded by personal feelings

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Good to know your only lookin at that specific interaction

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Instead of the carno and herra one

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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again. example

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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if the Carno decides to eat the Herrera instead of the Dryo, then good for him. he gets dinner anyway

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:25 AM

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yeah, but if you want more long term gameplay thats more fun in the long run, just let certain species talk

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you talk about exploiting but thats just the same but with calls. just let ppl talk

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:25 AM

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how is it the same with calls?

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you literally dont know what the other person is saying other than the general tone

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Why would they be talking though.. it's not.. they're not supposed to work together, it should be more of a "This could work out"

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Like a good thing i do nowadays. I spam 1 call as herra near herbi groups. Attract apexs near me. If the apexs is dumb and doesnt come to the guy making himself obvious thats their fault
When they do come they are like oh look he was leading me to food

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Because its the same general tone, why not just let people talk. If u want to tell your stego friend that a rex is about to ambush then why not, you did your job as a scout, 4 calling is just the same so why not just let ppl say it. A good carnivore wont be spotted. Makes it harder to be a carni so more people play herbivores and actually skilled people can pull of hunts

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not just everyone and their mom goes carni

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cause there will be harder gameplay for carnivores

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which is much needed

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:29 AM

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If your issue is skill n all that. WOuldnt it be a more skill-favoring arguement that the carni should be smart enough to notice what (in carno and herra example) that the herra is leading out the dryo

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Because an alarm could be relevant for you, or relevant for everyone, and that's up to you to figure out.

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Telling me, means I know exactly what's going on. A danger call from a dryo could mean anything from utah to rex, unless the dryo does not care about it's own life I guess

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Also an alarm can just say oh something is coming
A local chat can say, An adult rex, to the left, has a packmate, etc

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:30 AM

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no, because a good carnivore will be able to hunt the dryo without it warning its stego friends that its there, but if the carni wants to have a herrera friend help drive dryos out of burrows, then thats also an option

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Also small herbis sound the alarm at a herrera it creates a boy who cried wolf scenario

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:31 AM

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you could apply a similar thing to a real life scenario;
if you're in a crowded street and somebody yells "help", you have no idea who they're talking to or what they want.
this then triggers everyone to look in their direction

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:31 AM

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if u and your packmate are spotted as rexes then youre not doing your job correctly

rotund quest Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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I don't see how what you're proposing requires more skill

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sounds like it's making it easier

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unless that's what you're aiming at

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Its making it easier for the herbis

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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^

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Which is what it shouldnt be

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Both the herbis and carnis

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should have difficulties

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Not herbis have advantage

rotund quest Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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I just don't see a problem with what we have now

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Which it should be, because have you seen the herb to carni ratio we have?

rotund quest Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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if we could talk to other species it would be like global 2

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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the same thing happens with real animals as well. an antelope spots a leopard, starts grunting a panic call and starts running. the other antelope look and either hopefully spot the leopard or start running in the same direction as the first

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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There are way more carnivores than there should be

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its time to get rid of the bad ones

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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The issue with rn is cuz carnis are spoon fed ai

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Because people don't play to survive and don't care to be "prey"

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Literally once that is gone most of them will die

rotund quest Feb 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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we have the herb to carni ratio because people like killing other players

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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That too

rotund quest Feb 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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and as an herbi you dont really do that as much

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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agreed, with better ai ( those that fight back and dont spawn on top of you) it will make for far less carnivores.

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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you cant kill other players if the other players are constantly aware that the bad ones are there because the herbis can warn each other

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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They don't need chat for that though

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Also we've had no ai in the past, carnivores did the same thing

rotund quest Feb 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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if you let them talk to other herbis that will spark a bit of interest for like, the week or two of the release of that patch, then it will decline again

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:34 AM

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You dont need chat to do that. Just a 4 call and ya know. Oh somethings there

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Lemme either run or stand my ground

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Depending on ya dino

rotund quest Feb 15, 2020, 5:34 AM

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I think that a lot of the game should be dependent on those 1234 calls rather then spoon-fed typing

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 5:34 AM

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with no ai they camped spawn areas, that was the only way they survived, which hopefully wont be possible with better spawn points

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come the recode.

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Heh, I'd be fine with no chat, just the basic call itself

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:35 AM

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just a 4 call would make the matchup decisions more influential in the end

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:35 AM

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And just use ingame calls + body language

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Would be interesting

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Again all this as a server option

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:35 AM

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But I doubt most people would enjoy that xD

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Literally any chat related things should be server options

rotund quest Feb 15, 2020, 5:35 AM

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yeah I can see it as an option

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just not forced

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:35 AM

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^

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And then the devs do as they please with the officials. DOubt they will do as that suggestion entails tho unless its similar species

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 5:36 AM

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im down for letting some servers choose if they want a hard mode...ie no chats only calls..i would take it further though and say only way to get in is to get nested..with the original species having to be injected by server owners..LOL

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Which again if hadros as a unique mechanic were the only diff species to be able to group would be interesting

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Haha, oh I would love that Dapper, that + no ai, at least not how current ai is

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You want to murder an entire herd, sure.. now they won't be back for a while, have fun starving!

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 5:37 AM

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ikr..totally would be a fun hard mode for servers that want it 😄

rotund quest Feb 15, 2020, 5:37 AM

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imagine just a mass starving

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and then no one is left

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lol

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Hard mode = severe weather + night always and all that other stuff ya said

dim ore Feb 15, 2020, 5:37 AM

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naw ai would be there just not broken

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Nah, not rain at all times, but weather should be a thing, easy mode could be no rain at all = no sniff impairment and so on

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:38 AM

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MAybe ai difficulties as a server option too? Like normal and up tho

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Then the max would be legendary and the AI would be halo reach legendary campaign lvl hard

sand dagger Feb 15, 2020, 5:40 AM

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I'm saying that it makes playing herbi more fun and less lonely because you dont always find members of your heard, also its only specific dinos that u can talk to so its not like its fucking global chat, it could be beneficial for carnivores so they can actually have interesting interactions and not every carni player kills everything smaller that it sees because they could be a potentially use ally. Ingame calls+ body language is fine and all but it doesnt change the fact that after a few hours the game gets boring and people log off because at the end of the day you still cant talk to somebody that was the original purpose. Even in a massive herd it can be boring bc you have no one to actually converse with. Not only that but it discourages people from going to discord vc and finding other people species and herds to talk to out of boredom which could actually be worse. Yes t-bagging ingame and spamming Q is fun but it doesnt replace the core issue that most people get tired of it after a few hours. Servers could have it as an option, the devs said they wanted servers to have as many options as possible so it probably would be but if it gets added it would mean the devs could puppet what things they want together and it'll lead to actual relationships between certain species so you dont have mix packing across the board. Anyways this conversation is going in circles at this point so thats all I have to say.

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:41 AM

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If your issue is the fact that it gets boring then go play on a server which has it active (cuz basically everyone agreed it would be fine as a server option).

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Chat = noise, figure that one out first if you want ingame interactions. Otherwise, people will still go to discord even if they can talk ingame.

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Cuz i doubt official of all things would have this active

lime drum Feb 15, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Dilothink

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Wow

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Anyways since sabre seems done too.
What did yall think of the koolasuchus suggestion

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oof no answers XD

cyan flame Feb 15, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Hm

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Nocturnal aquatic.. that could be kind of cool actually. Hunt the small critters when they try to get water under the cover of darkness? :p

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Hmm, maybe have it immune or highly resistant to grappling naturally due to its slimeliness? I don’t think it’d need to shoot it but have it coat it’s body more so. I found a salamander in the wild once and couldn’t grip it at all due to its natural slime and what not.

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Well underwater the slimyness wouldnt work like that

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Plus i didnt want the koolasuchus to be compeltely immune to its main predators (deino and other fishers) main form of hunting

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Which is grappling and all

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:47 AM

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well, salamander slime isn't the same as hagfish slime

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:47 AM

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That too

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Good thing I didn’t compare the two 😄

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Hagfish slime practically makes the creature gag underwater

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:48 AM

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hagfish have an incredibly viscous slime that can actually suffocate attackers

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:48 AM

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would stop it from just chasing the koolasuchus after it escapes

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the whole daze/gag the predator thing

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Yea the hagfish slime blocks fish gills

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:48 AM

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aye

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makes them a bitch to hold too

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no amount of textured gloves will grip those things

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I think it’d be a cooler feature to have it be naturally slimy and resist grappling. But it’s just a subjective opinion no use in arguing over dondiLUL

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But otherwise it’s a really cool suggestion 😄

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Maybe i can make it so something grappling it loses more stam on land

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like 1.2x more stam or something

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:49 AM

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it's definitely unique

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:49 AM

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^

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Would be a cool niche with the slime shooting whatever that stuff is

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:50 AM

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and not unrealistic, given some living salamanders do have slime like that, though not to the same extreme as hagfish

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:50 AM

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i just chose hagfish so deinosuchus wouldnt invalidate it

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Could be a serious threat to baby deinosb too. Which we’ll need for their inevitable spam

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:51 AM

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you could go further, and have it so the slime contains toxins (which all amphibians contain btw, to varying degrees), and smaller creatures run risk of poisoning if they bite or eat it

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:51 AM

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I was originally gonna go for poison dart frog hagfish type thing

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:52 AM

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larger creatures would be more resistant due to their size, though i suppose the effect could stack if you eat enough Koolasuchus in a short period

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:52 AM

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But then i realized i dont wanna overtune it

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Like giving it too much stuff is basically what turned people away from aquatic minmi

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plus if we made the slime poisonous it would literally make anything stop from wanting to hunt it basically making it an uncontested playable

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and uncontested playables are never a good idea

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Which is why im slightly scared of how they are gonna balance deinosuchus

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:55 AM

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that's why i mentioned it only poisoning smaller attackers

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it would give it a window of relative safety to grow, as most larger animals wouldn't waste time on a small Koola, unless they KFS

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:57 AM

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maybe at younger stages it would have more potent poison

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:57 AM

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granted, they're not invulnerable, as they could still be killed by smaller attackers if enough damage is done

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 5:57 AM

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then as its older it eventually loses it

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or has diminished version of it

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 5:58 AM

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personally think basing the potency on the attacker's weight makes more sense. lower body-weight, you're more affected by toxins, like in IRL situations

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Maybe have the poison be more so damage over time type of deal. That way something big attacks the poison has no effect, but something smaller that would need a lot of bites and time would start to suffer from the poison. Not really a new idea, just expanding on our brain storming

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:00 AM

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maybe above 1.5x the weight of the koolasuchus the venom wont affect ya
and then anything under it will eventually ramping up to devastating effects

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 6:00 AM

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For example, deino vs koola would be a short fight if koola can’t escape. Deino kills it quick and has a lot of mass. Thus unaffected. But a pesky Austro is pecking at it. Naturally to any other dinosaur of koolas size this might be a threat in the long term. However the poison helps koola get the upper hand type of deal. (No idea the size of koola in reference to austro just kinda an example)

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:01 AM

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well deino vs koola would just be koola hagfish slimes away

wind storm Feb 15, 2020, 6:02 AM

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No yeah I get that, just if koola say misses doesn’t have it available whatever the circumstance is the poison won’t assist koola because he’s already lost

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I updated it to what i can fit. Ill repost it later on at some point with all the poison stuff too

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Deino would destroy Koola, tbh

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slime won't help it when it's shut into a toothy vice that can crush a car

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Well its mainly to make koola not useless.

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:09 AM

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but for other predators, like Spino, or Sucho, or whatever, it'd be a bitch to grab onto

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Only reason i added hagfish there. And yes ik the koola would prolly die irl and stuff but ingame a creature cant just be invalidated by another

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:10 AM

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granted, realistically, the teeth would skewer it, but for gameplay reasons you can assume it has unusually tough skin (for an amphibian) and slathers up a lot of slime

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Well the fish in the gif i showed of a hagfish has quite sharp teeth or beak iirc

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and the hagfish seemed fine

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:11 AM

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that was a shark that attacked the hagfish

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:11 AM

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hagfish didnt seem too injured from the bite

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:11 AM

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it clearly injures the hagfish. you see some torn skin and blood in the water, but the wound is superficial

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a crusher like Deino or Rex would do more damage though

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:12 AM

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It injures it obv but it doesnt crunch up as much as ya would expect

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:12 AM

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sharks are slashers, more than crushers, that's why

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except for species that specialise in hard prey, like crabs or something

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:13 AM

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well in the vid theres a horn shark which eats crabs iirc

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That goes for the hagfish

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Gotta rewatch it tho to see how hurt it was

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:19 AM

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looking at that vid again, could be a small sixgill, or some other species of deep-sea dogfish shark

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also, i notice you can see a string of the slime coming from the shark's mouth

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even underwater that shit is super-viscous XD

fallow hazel Feb 15, 2020, 7:43 AM

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wich video ? And good morninh

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 7:45 AM

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https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-18-2015/e1GJcI.gif

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it's a gif, sorry, not a vid, but still

empty dove Feb 15, 2020, 12:07 PM

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@trim flume the reason I disagree, is because staff should just simply be trusted to not grow that far. And sometimes server admins want to do events and so I therefore disagree.

trim flume Feb 15, 2020, 12:08 PM

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hmm good point

empty dove Feb 15, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Like, it's an ok suggestion, but most servers have trusted staff

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best to just avoid servers where staff grow themselves

trim flume Feb 15, 2020, 2:35 PM

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They will still be able to grow themselves, but at least maybe u get an average adult instead of being the best you that you can be . That's a way to encourage people to just grow naturally and get rewarded for playing the game. I think that's the goal of a game, to keep you playing as much as possible and It should reward you for doing so. I don't think that by insta-grow you should be getting all the benefits too , you've already saved time so u must at least be an average adult instead of the strongest version. I think that ultimate power should come with natural growth. @empty dove

empty dove Feb 15, 2020, 2:36 PM

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fair

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@ebon tiger mb for being unclear. I was referring to the video the gif had come from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8aVgSIDJjM

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Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa

Hagfish predatory behaviour and slime defence mechanism

Hagfishes (Myxinidae) are a family of jawless marine pre-vertebrates. Those video images taken in New Zealand revealed that hagfishes are able to choke their would-be predators with gill-clogging slime.It also shows that hagfishes are actively preying on other fish in New Zeal...

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jolly tree Feb 15, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I personally think the Utah Raptors should have a slash kick as one of their weapons.

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The jump already and in reality it was a means of dispatching pray and a defensive move... you know.

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I maybe an old dump truck driver, but I do know a little something lol

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Hell sixty years of life is bound to teach you something youngens lol

indigo sun Feb 15, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Theyll have a pounce attack

outer nebula Feb 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@delicate tulip they already stated that hatchling ptera will not be able to fly

delicate tulip Feb 15, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Really? Well that's good

indigo sun Feb 15, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Oh really? Neat. I should stick around more to hear this stuff

mint urchin Feb 15, 2020, 6:32 PM

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That said, Juvie Ptera can fly. As far as I know, they'll be able to fly the moment they spawn though I can see this being abused. It would perhaps be a little more sense to have them work for the ability to fly by surviving halfway through Juvie or a quarter of the way before earning it.

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:33 PM

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well, irl, there's two methods. some species can fly within hours of hatching, and others lack the power to sustain flight until half-grown

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so Juvie Ptera being able to fly is perfectly reasonable

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hell, i'd argue even Hatchling should fly for short periods, too

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:35 PM

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youll need to be able to fly as juvi ptera otherwise youd be fucked when you spawn in

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:35 PM

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that too

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:35 PM

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hatchling shouldnt be able to fly imo
just glide

mint urchin Feb 15, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Given the Ptera is mostly a glider, I think?, if they can fly they'd probably not be able to fly for very far or get much height

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:35 PM

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their entire gameplay revolves around flight
also, they're better flyers than birds 😛

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so they can flap just fine

mint urchin Feb 15, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I think of them more like Albatross, which is a very clumsy bird when it comes to landing and taking off

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:36 PM

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this is stepping into #paleotalk a bit, but pterosaurs are nothing like albatross

covert birch Feb 15, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Just cuz they aint
Dont mean they cant make it like em

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but personally i want something like pelagornis or ornithocheirus to work like albatrosses

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Infinite glide over oceans n all that

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Shitty on land

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:37 PM

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they have a different arrangement of muscles, they launch themselves with the wings rather than legs (so they're front-heavy), and the only advantage birds have over pterosaurs is that birds have a stronger downstroke when they flap, but pterosaurs have greater mobility in the air

mint urchin Feb 15, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I just think Juvie Ptera should remain on land a little longer when it spawns. They do take a lot of strength to get off the ground and supposedly had heavier bones so making the Juvies wait a little before being strong enough/old enough to take off would make sense for the 'muscle' to grow in. Life for any juvie is tough, I don't think the Ptera should be the exception

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But perhaps they'll only be able to fly for like, a minute tops... we don't know yet

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:41 PM

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well, juvies tend to have a smaller stamina pool than older animals, so that's a balance. they'd use more stam trying to flap to get to a safer altitude, and like the adults, they'll glide when they run out of stam.
the difference is they'll be flying lower at first, so they might still be within reach for some creatures

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they also will have trouble catching food, since given how small Ptera is, the juvies will be likely smaller than Velo, which will drastically limit what they can eat

mint urchin Feb 15, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Do they glide when they run out of stamina or actually crash land? Or has that not been confirmed yet?

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Dondi mentioned they'll just glide when they run out of stam in the air, but they can crash into objects

mint urchin Feb 15, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Ah. Seems a little forgiving, keeping in mind even the act of gliding is quite taxing

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:43 PM

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so if they're gliding low, if they don't adjust their altitude or direction they'll fly into stuff and crash

mint urchin Feb 15, 2020, 6:44 PM

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As long as we don't get the BoB insta-swoop swap directions I think it should work out

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:44 PM

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i don't see how gliding would be taxing. they're not really moving, just riding the air currents

mint urchin Feb 15, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Hold your arms out by your sides and flap them for 10 minutes, now keep them held out.
You'll see.

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Then add constant wind-pressure trying to push your arms/wings up, that you must constantly fight or you'd fall out the sky

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:46 PM

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we're a poor analogue to a bird or pterosaur

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besides, their anatomy limits how far up the arms can move, unlike us, so it's much easier to keep them level while relaxed

mint urchin Feb 15, 2020, 6:48 PM

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If they did flap their wings, as suggested, their wings would move up enough to lose altitude

ebon tiger Feb 15, 2020, 6:55 PM

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not by much, and that's easily countered by the downstroke pushing them up higher

delicate tulip Feb 16, 2020, 12:03 AM

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@covert birch so in other words...THIS IS DIBBLE! proceeds to launch them of the cliff

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Pretty much

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Ide love to fling a bunch of shitty utahs into the sinkhole

delicate tulip Feb 16, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Or dilo's back into the dark depths they crawled out from

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Nah cuz i aint gonan fling dilos into the pit

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they dont pounce

delicate tulip Feb 16, 2020, 12:08 AM

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True

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Still nice to imagine tho lol

sharp saddle Feb 16, 2020, 12:12 AM

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@golden iron pretty sure dondi explained that it'd be hard to pull off because if you survive long enough you'd basically just be a massive lump of meat walking around due to wound deformation, it's a nice idea but hard to bring it to life without breaking everything

finite perch Feb 16, 2020, 12:14 AM

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also the way wounds work by depressing the model and how scars bump outwards, it looks really odd. cant remember who posted it but the devs have tested it already

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we'd need a new wound location system, which could interfere with how hp is shown to other players. still, if this problem can be cracked afaik they arent against the idea

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 12:21 AM

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@golden iron
https://pastebin.com/ADFLGgY5
Q: If locational damage is added with the Recode, will the damage we take show on our bodies from where we're bitten, bashed, etc?
A: "You probably wont see mesh deformation. You can definitely see where you've been attacked, but it would have to fade over time. I doubt you'll see persistent scarring forever."

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Also this https://youtu.be/dPtvC7Voops?t=732

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Daily News!
Sorry for the delay, editing took a long time, and tech decided to hate me today.

Dondi streamed Part 2 of their Q&A stream for us, and it was a long one.

Dondi's twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/
Dondi's twitter: https://twitter.com/NotTheDondi

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12:12 is a more indepth answer why they cant do it

golden iron Feb 16, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Ah damn

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Resting shouldnt make you grow faster that just encourages people to do the bare minimum

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Can you make the game so that if you have More food in your digestive System you grow faster or idk if you rest you grow faster or if you kill others dinos you gain EXP to grow faster in like 20 minutes or 10

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@paper oriole easy way to fix that is to make a 30 minute cooldown and they could only use it for 13 minutes

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Or not at all

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Pretty sure staying active and healthy is the way to go

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On the move

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 2:59 AM

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They should add that feutures to dinos that take a hella long time to grow

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Then they should make it that if you lose Food over time you grow slower

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What's the problem now ?

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Pretty sure it was mentioned that maintaining proper behaviour would help you grow faster than somebody who does the bare minimum in a stream before

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Whatcha mean ?

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Problem? Why are you mad now

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I mean

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Staying fed, moving around, possibly preferred food

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:01 AM

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So that would make you grow faster ?

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:01 AM

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If you eat preferred food, And are active, and follow migration paths ya grow faster

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Idk if it was confirmed but yeah

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:01 AM

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If they added that

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:01 AM

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It was confirmed

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Nice

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:02 AM

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When will that be added ?

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:02 AM

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There are preferred foods herbis can eat to speed their growth
These foods are found on migration paths

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In Recode

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:02 AM

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What about Carnivorous ? Dinos ?

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Well carnis are different

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Cuz if a herbi isnt eating preferred food its punished

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Carnis can just eat meat

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Since its preferred food isnt everythwere

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Probably hunting prey in your tier or specialization something

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So a rex cant get by well by eating tacos and juvies

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:03 AM

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@covert birchor they could just make it that if the animal they killed was below 75% food they grow slower ?

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:04 AM

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You have preferred food as carni that benefits ya
But eating something else doesnt harm ya

Herbis eating preferred food benefits ya a shitton
But not eating it harms ya

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Seems like a biased mechanic

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:04 AM

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It isnt

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:04 AM

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BTW T rexes grow too slow

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Cuz herbis will grow much faster

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And cam they dont

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:04 AM

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No it doesnt

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:04 AM

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All growth times are increasing

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:05 AM

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If t rex grew too slow there wouldnt be 50 of then on every active server

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:05 AM

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@covert birch they do I spent 2:30 just to get to adult 80%

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:05 AM

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herbis will grow much much faster eating preferred food
Carnis iwll grow barely any faster eating preferred food

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Rexes are overpopulated their growth time isnt an issue

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Rexs should take 15 hrs to grow

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Nah is an issue

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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All apexs should

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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@covert birch son are you crazy ?

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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And doing shit your dino does would lower that

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Deters at least a few impatient people from contributing to the apex plague

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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@barren zephyr no im actually smart

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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They could just buff the Rex if it is an Overated Dino

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Apexs should take 15 hrs
If ya do shit your dino does it decreases that time
To about 2 hrs more than current game

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Apexes shouldnt be around every corner

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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@covert birch nah I don't think so

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Lmao buff rex

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Well sorry then cam

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Cuz thats what they are doing

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:07 AM

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I mean Debuff

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Rexes stats are fine

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:07 AM

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If that what they called it

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:07 AM

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They are increasing growth times
But you will do stuff while growing

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:07 AM

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It is too easy to grow to adult atm

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:07 AM

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They why should the Time of growing increase lol ?

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:07 AM

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To make apexs rarer

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There should be like 10 apexs per server not 60

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Today I got murder by a T Rex and I was a T rex

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Gratz

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Doesnt mean anything

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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That's Cannibalism 101!

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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If it is notably more difficult to grow after recode it may not need to take longer IF you grow it right, doing the bare minimum should increase the time greatly

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401464048610312195/593941561771819008

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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I understand why he killed me but dang that T rex follow me till I had nowhere to go

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A true Murderer

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BTW no one's Play progress why ?

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Growing your rex by crawling around eating juvies and small tiers should increase the time it takes to grow vs a rex who travels around and hunts risky prey

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Progression doesnt exist

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Thats why nobody plays it

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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What you mean ?

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I saw a server

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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You said
BTW no one's Play progress why ?

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There isnt a progression gamemode

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I ask why nobody played it

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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cuz it doesnt exist anymore

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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@covert birch there is lol

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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there isnt

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I saw it this morning

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Unless it was a mod

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There isnt

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Progression was replaced with survival

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I'm sure there it

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Then go in the server list

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And search under gamemodes

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progression

barren zephyr Feb 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Unless they took it off today at 1:00pm

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I saw it this morning I'll check it again

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Don't ping me BYE

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bTW

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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i ddint ping ya

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You pinged me

paper oriole Feb 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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It shows up but if you try to open a prog server it doesnt work

topaz iris Feb 16, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Yeah it doesn’t work because it’s not in the game anymore 🤷🏻‍♂️

indigo sun Feb 16, 2020, 5:12 AM

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@fast wyvern #general-feedback is not the channel to ask questions in and they will eventually, but not any time soon.

fallow hazel Feb 16, 2020, 8:57 AM

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@honest zealot yes it is going to be optimized

grave karma Feb 16, 2020, 11:27 AM

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lol progression still exists and is playable but you're stuck as the thing earliest in the progression tree

lament thorn Feb 16, 2020, 12:38 PM

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indigo sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:38 PM

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@keen socket 1.) You need more than "these animals would be neat" for a suggestion.
2.) Titanoboa has a model but since it's so incredibly hard to animate and get to work with IK they haven't done anything with it and likely won't for a while until they can focus solely on it, if they choose to properly add it at all.

keen socket Feb 16, 2020, 12:51 PM

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@indigo sun ok cool to hear

indigo sun Feb 16, 2020, 5:10 PM

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@normal wolf Dondi said no to first person camera. The animals move their heads around during animations too much for it to work well for the player

lilac swallow Feb 16, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Also, do you simply not see the snout of your dino or what?

slate shale Feb 16, 2020, 5:12 PM

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@normal wolf I agree with @indigo sun because most first person games have reason. It makes sense with the Mercenary's but not the dinosaurs because the mercs have things they see that they hold but the dinos don't do anything that would require it to be in first person.

indigo sun Feb 16, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Really it doesnt work well for much other than humans

icy inlet Feb 16, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Can we please get some kind of character selection on a server where I can choose 1 herbi and 1 carni to play per server. I.E. I can have a tric and rex on Official US1 server. Can choose which one I get to log into server as. Provides a better range of playability with the community. Grouping with same species is understandable to be held to one dino is kind of sandy.

golden iron Feb 16, 2020, 5:44 PM

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@silk rain I think i'd be a cool addition to add pirhanas that become exposed when the water drys up, but also in reality male and female dinos would never sound different when it comes to roars. That would just be unnessecary.

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 5:44 PM

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dodo ai = bad

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Ai shouldnt be free meals

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And those would be free meals

silk rain Feb 16, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Oooh I see

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Yea I understand that😂😂😂

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They really are a free meal😂😂😂

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Do you guys think when the big alligator comes out when your just swimming in the water it will just drag u down and you die

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Lmao

ebon tiger Feb 16, 2020, 5:56 PM

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to be fair to Dodos, they're only a free meal to anything large enough to one-shot it.
they're bigger than people realise, and were able to fight back against things up to the size of a human.
they reportedly weren't even nice to eat and weren't that friendly in the wild. (the dumb fat Dodo idea comes from captured ones that got overfed on the journey back the Netherlands, rendering them obese and docile)
the only reason they went extinct in the end is because pigs, rats and dogs destroyed their nests and offspring faster than they could breed.

silk rain Feb 16, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Dang so if it weren’t for dogs, pigs, and rats they would still be alive?

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Even then dodos would just be quick n easy ai since it wont hide (in the suggestion said spawn on beaches)
Plus why make a whole new model for a dodo when you can just make taco and/or oro do basically the same thing

ebon tiger Feb 16, 2020, 6:27 PM

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@silk rain technically, we humans are still to blame for their extinction, as we brought the dogs, pigs and rats, and did also capture and kill a number of the Dodos ourselves

indigo sun Feb 16, 2020, 7:08 PM

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If it werent for humans they'd likely still be alive

normal wolf Feb 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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@indigo sun thats sad but i understand, maybe we see it someday, after they put all they want first into the game, it would be awesome in my opinion 🙂

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@slate shale i dont agree with u cuz dinosaurs should see like first person, if we go the way u are talking. i cant imagine a trike looking behind without a broken neck lol but i just made a suggestion cuz i think it would be great if we could choose between those two camera types, imagine u pouncing a trike as an utah in first person, i would love to see that, just my opinion.

ebon tiger Feb 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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one of the biggest problem with adding first person to dinosaurs is how they see

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only some species have binocular vision

normal wolf Feb 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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yeah, i can imagine that too

ebon tiger Feb 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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how are you supposed to convey that properly for a human player?

normal wolf Feb 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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that why i just gave the idea, idk how to make it work lol

ebon tiger Feb 16, 2020, 7:38 PM

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you'd have to have a screwy FoV applied for each species, since they have different skull shapes and vision spheres

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and that's just not really worth it in the long-run

normal wolf Feb 16, 2020, 7:40 PM

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yeah, but maybe someone can think in another way to do it, idk, but still would be awesome to play in first person, even with a simple vision 😄

covert birch Feb 16, 2020, 7:40 PM

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If ya want a 1st person experience then ide play human when it eventually comes out

silk rain Feb 16, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Oooh I seee now @tidal socket thank you for telling me

normal wolf Feb 16, 2020, 7:40 PM

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no, i would love to play as a dino in first person, its just my opinion

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u dont have to agree with it lol

ebon tiger Feb 16, 2020, 7:41 PM

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did you mean to tag me? @silk rain

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honestly the closest you could reliably get to first-person for dinos is probably mounting the 3rd-person camera on top of their head

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that way, it's simple and doesn't require 20 different FoVs

normal wolf Feb 16, 2020, 7:44 PM

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i tried that but its not cool, but i dont want it that much, i love the game at all and i will continue playing.

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no, u can look back without moving ur body so still not the same lmfao

ebon tiger Feb 16, 2020, 7:45 PM

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not what i mean

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if you mounted a camera on top of the dinos head between their eyes, and locked it there, it would be tied in with their head movement, similar to a true first-person camera

normal wolf Feb 16, 2020, 7:46 PM

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so u dont got what i mean lol