Angrier the herra is more it flares out
#general-feedback-discussion
covert birch
minor basalt
Then there's no reason for people to complain about it if it won't even be flared out like that all the time lol
daring cosmos
well among other issues, honestly with troodon they should've just went with feathers on troodon and you'd be golden
I see
well still wouldn't call it idea, but I can live with that, I guess
covert birch
Looks wise idm compy and troodon not being too diff. Troodon is quite a bit larger especially if ya look at the new thing in isle phase two.
minor basalt
They're different enough to be unique
daring cosmos
tbh no
minor basalt
Like troodon looking like the silhouette of a person when standing straight up
daring cosmos
honestly at a distance in gameplay I ccan actually see the two getting conflated, though that's not my concern really, it's that they made them really similar looking for no reason, both these animals look pretty different IRL so why would they just make them the same is both confusing and dissapointing
minor basalt
They honestly don't look that similar
They're different enough to distinguish the two easily
daring cosmos
well not really, both of them are almost the same thing at a glance ignoring the disparity in size, as in super thin lanky small theropods which is dissapointing cause troodon is actually a really cool and interesting animal, honestly ignoring the drama and focusing purely on the designs POT has the better troodon model than the isle which is dissapointing cause the isle has the better artists
torn thistle
@hollow river @icy lion @pine sparrow @daring cosmos Remember to chat in here and not in #general-feedback
pine sparrow
you got it cheef
torn thistle
ya big goof
icy lion
im dum dum (ty)
mighty marten
I will say, the Utah pounce and the animations im seeing for it, with the instant kill by the trike, and hopefully other dinos... really makes utah more interesting. I cant wait to see the future for it.
still temple
@barren zephyr @hollow river @strange wave explain how a more distinctive herrerasaurus would be a bad thing
still temple
that's like removing dilo's notch, removing a distinctive anatomical trait of the dinosaur
and saber-esque teeth are very much cooler than a generic theropod head
strange wave
nobody talked about this monster
barren zephyr
your opinion
still temple
doesnt make it a bad suggestion
strange wave
and look at this not all that distinct is it
still temple
never said Vlad's model was better
strange wave
nobody talked about the reduced teeth
daring cosmos
you could argue it since it's closer to the real deal while the other looks even more generic
ideally it'd have some soft tissue covering the teeth, but overall the main issue is that the skull isn't tall enough
strange wave
and just like the spino its not changing and i honestly dont care
still temple
guess we like to settle for less then š¤·āāļø
daring cosmos
@still temple not to sound brash, but I do notice that a lot in the isle community
anyway I think this is a pretty good depiction even if it isn't herrerasaurus itself I think I captures the inherant charm in herrerasaurs https://66.media.tumblr.com/f302ec74a9f277278bc14520206b992e/tumblr_nszubvCv2G1rj34fvo1_1280.jpg
mighty marten
Wait... did someone not like the new Spinosaurus? Heathens! Spino is a Gawd @_@
daring cosmos
tbh the new one looks way too much like an american alligator, though it's spino so who cares
mighty marten
I mean, to be frank, we have no idea how dinosaurs were supposed to look anyway, but based on the skull, theres nothing wrong with the Spino having a allergatoery head.
strange wave
people were complaining about "da skull is too short WA"
mighty marten
I mean, I guess it is kind of but meh
I also dont care
it looks AMAZING as it is
patent spade
but just like to nitpick stupid shit that doesnt really matter
strange wave
as its gonna be the same thing in a half week everybody will forget about it
mighty marten
The Deino and the Spino are the two im looking most forward to right now. I mean, if the Giga rework is great then that as well.
Im just hoping that the game will actualy be fun and enjoyable instead of a Rex and Utah party.
lol
daring cosmos
looks too thick and lumpy and has a weird underbite, literally the old spino head was perfect, this new one looks like it came out of JW;E which I'd consider a downgrade
mighty marten
Woah woah woah. JW:E is amazing too.
Dont you dare be hatin
You say one more bad thing about it, we gonna throw down. š
daring cosmos
bring it on green man
mighty marten
I'd settle for an actually playable game at this point.
Shrug
I dont want Rex to be a god anymore. I dont want these over populated dinosaurs and more variety. And damnit, I want a better Ai system
daring cosmos
but yeah JW;E doesn't have a good aesthetics and the isle shouldn't be taking notes from the one place everyone copies their dinos from
mighty marten
JW:E for what it is imo has great aesthetics. It just has some things missing that would make it even better. I think its a fine game, but JP:OG was legit.
lofty sundial
IMAGINE getting a perfectly fine model and almost instantly try and change it, like wtf be grateful
mighty marten
Woah now. The old spino was not that great. The head was amazing sure, but the new sail, the new body shape, the new claws.
All better imo
Could the head be better on the new model? Absolutely
lofty sundial
@still temple you just need to stop bud. 
still temple
nah, like @hollow river said, My opinion so āļø
mighty marten
Oh and dont get me started on the old spinos legs. Yikes.
It felt short and stubby
daring cosmos
@lofty sundial why are you so afraid of constructive critism? The game's dinosaurs could look a lot better, why the need to be so passive and complasant?
compact matrix
I dunno why the flame is so extreme, bhal agrees with him. I respect differences of opinion in regards to how the animal looks
mighty marten
Reminds me of those gangsters with their pants down to their knees and the big shirts xD
daring cosmos
@mighty marten yeah there's a reason I just said the head, I like the new IRL spino a lot more, but the lumpy head of this isle one kinda cucks it from being truely good, which is annoying
lofty sundial
@daring cosmos because criticism is fine but changing the Dinosaur to look more accurate although this is a more fictional game with weird designs and literally every new Dino this person tries to change it
compact matrix
I actually prefer the new herrera in every regard over the old one, but I understand if flaffy thinks it's too generic. However I do highly suspect that this one actually might have lips which cover his giant teeth.
lofty sundial
@still temple sure your opinion, but no need to make a suggestion every time something is shown and try and change stuff.
still temple
@lofty sundial if you dont like my suggestion, ignore it
daring cosmos
@lofty sundial if it were more accurate it'd look better tbh, and just because the game has a more fictional tone doesn't mean you need to make all your small theropods blend into each other
still temple
guess constructive criticism isn't allowed anymore
mighty marten
Models can be reworked at any time. I think we should have them focus on actually putting out something playable, then fixing models.
and when I mean playable, I mean not frustrating... well... bad.
lofty sundial
@daring cosmos false. It looks great as it is, and WAY more unique then the one Flaffy suggested. And no it doesnāt blend. @still temple no one said that donāt be a big baby because someone critiqued what you are doing.
still temple
@lofty sundial if you knew how to read, I specifically stated change the skull anatomy only, i was never opposed to the dewlap
patent spade
whether the spino looks good or not is a matter of opinion and the dinos and devs will never please everyone
still temple
Seems like you're the one throwing a fit rather than me with all the name calling š¤·āāļø
strange wave
ok not opposed to the dewlap
daring cosmos
@lofty sundial you're acting very erratic, I hope you aren't taking any of this personally
still temple
@strange wave I didnt make that edit, if I did I would change the skull/teeth only
compact matrix
IMO I like everything on on the herrera model jake showed us except the teeth. The og dewlap and the jaw shape are good enough, but the teeth on herrera are much larger than on the model
mighty marten
I think the after image of the herarara is better than the former
daring cosmos
but no the new aesthetic looks way too much JW which is the least original thing you could possibly do with dinosaurs right now
mighty marten
Thats a really big neck jingling thing
lofty sundial
@daring cosmos Iām not. Iām just not a fan of seeing āguess we canāt have criticism anymoreā like no. And you really arenāt defending anything
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
patent spade
personally I think the neck flap looks weird but I'm also not gonna be spending 5 hours staring at its neck lol
lofty sundial
Same here but I donāt mind it
still temple
@lofty sundial "criticism is fine"
UNGRATEFUL
lofty sundial
Anyways Iām gonna leave and end my argument here . And yes you were being ungrateful, that has nothing to do with criticism @still temple š
daring cosmos
@lofty sundial uh, right.... But still I don't think you're addressing my points in any majorly arguementative way, you seem to just want everything to stay as is
still temple
Why don't you guys want longer more menacing teeth though, that's my question
daring cosmos
@lofty sundial ungrateful? Are you high? Since when was this game free and why are you acting so sycophantly?
The game should look as good as it can and tbh the new model is kind of a downgrade, though that's not to say Vlad's is perfect I could definately point out a ton of issues there
still temple
Settle for less boys, that's the motto
strange wave
"The game should look as good as it can and tbh the new model is kind of a downgrade" opinions...
mighty marten
How about we settle for an actually playable before we go all ham on models now?
lofty sundial
Well so far it isnāt a downgrade not to mention we havenāt seen the full model and we havenāt seen the colors on so stop calling it less you 
daring cosmos
yeah, but I've been trying to argue it
mental sleet
Trikkel, it not being a downgrade is your opinion.
patent spade
actually wasnt the spino in the trailer a male?
daring cosmos
@lofty sundial those are the least important parts and aren't going to save it if the heads all wonky
patent spade
I thought it had like red male colors or some shit
still temple
@lofty sundial never said the vlad model was better š¤·āāļø
lofty sundial
I didnāt say they you did
strange wave
you've stated your opinion but then you say everyone elses is wrong and yours is better
lofty sundial
mental sleet
Flaffy proposing an "upgrade" is fine as a suggestion, you have no right to call him ungrateful.
The devs can take it as they want.
shell willow
the model isn't even done yet
maybe they'll make changes later on, who knows, just be grateful that herrera is even on the list man 
daring cosmos
@shell willow that's awfully wishful thinking and also shit's never gonna change if you aren't even gonna discuss it
lofty sundial
I didnāt say anyoneās opinion was wrong Iām just saying they were dumb suggestions to judge such when animating isnāt in, skin or fully body.
daring cosmos
then again it isn't gonna change even if you do
@lofty sundial are you 14?
not trying to be offensive, it's just that you sound really young
lofty sundial
Last I checked no. Maybe I traveled back in time
strange wave
listen to your own advice and dont name call
shell willow
@daring cosmos Is it so wrong to be wishful? Works in progress have the ability to change, I don't see why that's so hard to believe. Why does trikkel's age matter. Chill.
mental sleet
This is not going to go anywhere.
still temple
Why not provide constructive criticism when the model is WIP, a stage where changes can be made easily. Rather than waiting till everything is done and changes will be difficult to make?
daring cosmos
@shell willow kinda if you want anything to change
mental sleet
Flaffy, as soon as he called you ungrateful you should know to avoid replying.
shell willow
I personally don't want anything to change. I like it the way it is. I just won't complain if things do change.
still temple
fair
daring cosmos
yeah that was something else
still temple
daring cosmos
sounds like @lofty sundial treats the devs like god's that should never be questioned and anyone who does is some heathan herratic, which is why I think they're not very old
daring cosmos
is it not? That's super what a preteen on the internet would do, but whatever, the point is that no one's making any arguements anymore other than weird culty character judgements
lofty sundial
And that is also false. Iāve had conflicts etc and Iāve gotten a strike from one too. I donāt praise anyone or anything.
strange wave
again its trikkels opinion and you keep saying its wrong and they should be shamed for it
daring cosmos
but yeah the herrera model has issues and looks too much like a generic theropod for no reason, my guess is Dondi wanted to make it look fast cause it's suppoed to be a cheetah now even though that makes literally no sense, but I can live with that as long as the model looks good which I don't think it does for the reasons I've mentioned before
shell willow
Gosh, its almost like most theropods look like each other
queue spino sub rex
daring cosmos
@strange wave also everything here is obviously going to be opinion and I do think they should be said with conviction, problem is @lofty sundial is just emberassing itself with nonearguements
strange wave
generic theropod
daring cosmos
@shell willow no herrerasaurus IRL looks way more distinctive than the model, they strayed from the scource material to make something less memorable
strange wave
less memorable?
lofty sundial
Okay mate you can stop with @ ing me. Iām not even here anymore.
strange wave
are you forgetting the giant dewlap
shell willow
@daring cosmos They made it more memorable by taking creative liberties, making it recognizable to their game. That's the most unique looking herrerasaurus I've ever seen in my life, dude. I'll remember The Isle's herrera over any other for sure.
daring cosmos
I'd say so, it looks like some generic dromeosaur when the real deal is more unorthodox and aesthetic,
@strange wave the giant dewlap is just visual fluff that doesn't even look good
strange wave
opinions...
lofty sundial
contradiction
daring cosmos
dewlaps can be done right and it extending is a good aesthetic choice, but what I'm getting at is as is the model isn't nearly as good as can be
@strange wave so?
they're opinions with backing
icy lion
lmao what
daring cosmos
not everything is immediately valid just because it's subjective
strange wave
its an opinion that other people like it
shell willow
So what if a few of its teeth aren't up to your perfect standard. The devs do what they want and I say they're doing a damn good job. The amount of contradictions in your words are vaporizing my braincells 
daring cosmos
by that logic Batman v Superman is as good as a movie as citizen kane
@shell willow it's not just that, but why do you insist on worshiping the devs? They aren't untouchable gods that can do no wrong
strange wave
again wish the saying that other people are less because they agree with the devs
shell willow
How am I worshipping the devs? Giving them props for their hard work is suddenly cultish? Fr?
lofty sundial
He isnāt worshipping he is being grateful, for the Dino even being added
You absolute pepega
icy lion
i see a strawman and their name is copper
daring cosmos
yes cause it's not paritucarly good work, they literally just could've told Jake to copy Scott Hartmans skeletal and add some fleshy bits
strange wave
opinions
lofty sundial
If you want to see worshipping get out of here and go to DOD discord Iām out this channel
Ciao
patent spade
I mean that's a matter of opinion. some people are gonna like it and others wont. at the end of the day if that's how the devs want it to look then that's how its gonna look
shell willow
Because... thats how... you make creatures. It's not like you can create an entirely different skeleton and be like "HERE! Herrera!"
We haven't even seen the whole body yet.
daring cosmos
@lofty sundial grateful for a game you paid for and a dev who already set out to do this in the first place? lol wat? I think the isle has gone far and commend the devs and all that, but just flaunting critism because "YOU NO APPRECIATE" is absolutely insane
@shell willow that doesn't matter if the head sucks
icy lion
the only thing off about the herrera so far is the teeth size and thats minor
strange wave
copper you dont need to @ everybody whenever you talk
lofty sundial
Copper, youāre just spitting opinions.
Nothing is fact. Itās just opinions and minority and majority
daring cosmos
I just argued why the whole thing is weird, none of you have provided any other arguements other than "its fine" or "you should be grateful"
so?
lofty sundial
You are the minority in this case
shell willow
What's next, you wanna call me out for being 9 or something because I think you're being unappreciative?
daring cosmos
literally everything in this channel is going to be a opinion
icy lion
so why do you act like yours is better
daring cosmos
holy moly why is everyone so quick to defend the status quo?
@icy lion why do you defend the current model like it's better?
lofty sundial
Also I got my game for free 
shell willow
Because you're doing nothing but trying to shame us for thinking its fine? Idk man. You can have your opinions but we're allowed to have ours too.
strange wave
because we think it is better
icy lion
when did i lmao
daring cosmos
@lofty sundial wtf is that even supposed to mean? Some one gave it to me as a gift so now I am indebted to the devs for life? Come on
patent spade
god this is such a useless argument that will just keep going in circles
shell willow
lol
daring cosmos
@strange wave well I'm the only one arguing why JW deviant art recycled dinosaurs aren't that great
strange wave
its not
icy lion
"you bought the game so you suck the devs off" "you were gifted the game so you suck the devs off" literally what
strange wave
your making such a big deal over teeth
lofty sundial
@daring cosmos YOU. Are the one saying āgrateful for a game you payed forā youāre absolutely contradicting yourself .
strange wave
teeth
daring cosmos
huh?
strange wave
and you are ignoring the giant expanding dewlap
patent spade
wait this whole argument started over teeth? teeth you wont be looking at ever? XD
daring cosmos
no I'm not, are you high?
shell willow
If you want a counter argument, how about this:
It's based on an iguana right? Iguanas don't have janky teeth like herrera does irl. The isle isn't supposed to have realistic dinosaurs. It's fine for herrera to not have proper teeth because its not even a proper herrera. Look at our fucking utah.
lofty sundial
icy lion
this guys going in circles and is straw manning every response
daring cosmos
@patent spade not it started because the new herrera model looks weirdly generic and wrong
shell willow
how is it generic? It can't be more generic than allo
lofty sundial
And you are making fat assumptions copper . Just cos I got the game for free doesnāt mean Iām sucking Dev toes. Just stop mate
icy lion
idk how dewlap is generic
lofty sundial
And donāt tag me
strange wave
"JW deviant art recycled dinosaurs" IGNORING THE DEWLAP
shell willow
you'd be surprised how many deviantart dinosaurs actually look really good.... I mean... tapwing is on deviantart
daring cosmos
that was me literally telling you how insane your mentality is
daring cosmos
yours perhaps
icy lion
ya he said it's him
icy lion
not even any spines smh
daring cosmos
are you people insane? what in the hell is even happening anymore?
icy lion
wheres the soft tissue?????
daring cosmos
I've seen cultist with less blind dedication than you people
shell willow
This can't be real
strange wave
back to the "everybody think devs are gods cuz they dont agree"
lofty sundial
Okay, uh bye then. Guess you canāt handle multiple enemies. Take it home bickers
daring cosmos
icy lion
what
daring cosmos
Oh don't worry I can, but you gotta make at least an atom of sense first
icy lion
why the spoonbill
lofty sundial
You donāt make any sense either so I donāt mind
daring cosmos
it's reacting to your insanity
icy lion
uh
daring cosmos
yes I do
patent spade
can we just move on to something else cause this is just deteriorating into insulting each over opinions
shell willow
Copper
We like herrera, you don't. You're allowed to hate the new herrera, but we're allowed to like the new herrera. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean we're wrong. It's all opinions. 
It's that simple
strange wave
^^^^^^
lofty sundial
Okay okay letās just stop here. Take it to dms if you want to
icy lion
anyway im wondering if the current ai only dinos will be playable in the future cuz i love avas
lofty sundial
We arenāt on topic anymore
shell willow
ya imma dip before a blue person bans us all
strange wave
same
daring cosmos
I literally point out the flaw in your logic @lofty sundial saying "I didn't pay for the game sooo" and then I tell him "wtf does that mean? just cause someone gifted the game to me now I worship the devs" the point was to point out the flaw in your reasoning not my autobiographical tale aout me getting the game
icy lion
would playing a velo be the same as playing a compy?
daring cosmos
@shell willow yeah, but I'm the only one that's made an arguement so far that doesn't boil down to STFU THE DEVS WORK HARD BE GRATEFUL REEEE
@icy lion probably
lofty sundial
Saying: Grateful for a game you paid for then I said I didnāt pay for this game I was gifted it and then you reacted badly
daring cosmos
@lofty sundial I didn't react badly, I just pointed out how that means jack shit
patent spade
that's cause the others actually like the way the herrera looks and dont like you calling them cultist and shit for it
lofty sundial
Then why did you mention it in the first place ??????
daring cosmos
the game isn't some gift for all, my point is that you're buying a product with cold hard cash it's not a gift it's a good that's paid for with currancy
icy lion
what
daring cosmos
@lofty sundial because you did
daring cosmos
Trikkel: stfu and be grateful for th devs
XD
ok
Me: it's not free, why is it wrong to ask for quality in the revamps?
lofty sundial
I said this
daring cosmos
Trikkel: I got it for free.... :D
shell willow
Implying its not good quality
daring cosmos
oh you meant in survival, well that's my mistake, but you're still dumb
I'll explain why
just cause it's getting added shouldn't mean it doesn't have to look good too
icy lion
what
shell willow
Can we not call names pls ty
patent spade
<@&401466542140817419> can someone please end this trash fire
daring cosmos
right
lofty sundial
Thank you
severe idol
Who am I ending?
lofty sundial
Now I can leave without being @ Ed
patent spade
this non stop argument about the herrera
lofty sundial
Itās turned away from Herrera
icy lion
i just want to see the textures soon :c
daring cosmos
that's an artifact of your own construction
lofty sundial
Weāve become a little primal and insulted each other
severe idol
Alright. Well... it's super late and I'm not nice. Get the conversation on track or you will be relocated.
icy lion
o7
severe idol
Rule 2.
daring cosmos
I really wouldn't call them insults
icy lion
you called us dumb but k
severe idol
Don't propagate it. Drop it and move on.
icy lion
its late, good night. ty for calming us down saoul
severe idol
So help me god, Copper, if that message is continuing the discussion I just asked to move on from, there's gonna be sadness.
daring cosmos
XD you're really that delicate? Come on? Ok I promise never to be mean to Trikkel boi again, is that fine with you?
severe idol
Alright. Cool.
odd idol
What a shame.
severe idol
He has been kicked. For now.
wheat igloo
Good.
patent spade
ty mods
strange wave
thank you
wheat igloo
You're welcome, please just remember to be civil towards one another.
lofty sundial
Sorry for getting a bit out of hand
mighty marten
Lol.
icy lion
yea, ty mods
mighty marten
Im guessing someone got yeeted.
icy lion
yea, long story. started with herrera dewlap lol
severe idol
When I say "Stop", you guys gotta stop. But please continue with the dewlap.
mighty marten
Do we have to drop and roll?
strange wave
dewlap is gud nuf said
patent spade
@icy lion I hope it will be jiggly cause that would be hilarious XD
icy lion
lmaoo right
strange wave
its supposed to expand depending on the anger
icy lion
spam turning to wiggle your neck
shell willow
I wanna see it puff out like an Anole
icy lion
maybe part of the 3 call?
daring cosmos
hey if that's the case all fine by me
strange wave
think less iguana more anole
shell willow
look at him go
icy lion
pretty boi
daring cosmos
^ just have that be the case
patent spade
eh I still think it looks weird but that's just me
icy lion
i wonder how thick it is too
you think itll have the shading like the ptera wings? kinda glowy?
shell willow
I hope it folds in like this too
daring cosmos
it does, and I'd prefer it if it were rounder, though if we're getting really nitpicky I'd like it if it were more like an inflatable sack like it is right now, the flat dewlap has been done more times before I reckon
shell willow
anoles are great
strange wave
im too lazy to find the clip
icy lion
i wonder how the textures are, i cant imagine will be getting the animations without textures
strange wave
daring cosmos
probably just gonna be the same default skin, but remade for this version sorta like we got with carno
patent spade
@onyx cargo pretty sure the current stats of the dinos wont matter since everything is being changed but maybe I'm wrong
the most important question is is it gonna keep its title as fastest dino in the game
I need to harass things as Herrera on officials
icy lion
i think hererras getting slowed down
daring cosmos
from what I know it's meant to be super fast and climb trees now, which is pretty hillarious cause the real thing probably only reached a max of 26MPH, but I'm ok with that
strange wave
again lost me at real thing
icy lion
i wonder if the new patterns are the same/similar to old herrera
daring cosmos
expect mottled if any of the survival dinosaurs are an indication
icy lion
true, but para and maia have some p clean stripes
i remember seeing a white and brown striped concept for herra
daring cosmos
really? When?
sly dragon
Cus I saw people were griping about the skull
it's pretty accurate
teeth are a little undersized
compact matrix
thanks for posting
Personally found the skull itself fine, teeth being a bit small was what I noticed when I looked at it but I thought it could have been the lips but wasn't sure
sly dragon
Often time a lot of what looks unique doesn't represent itself once soft tissue is added
Think about acrocanthosaurus, if restored properly it just looks like any other carcharodontosaur
regardless, did some talking with the art devs, we'll be bumpin up the tooth size
compact matrix
Thanks Jake, Cheers
hoary ocean
*Baardo
compact matrix
Oh my b
The larger tooth size was the only thing that was bothering me, everything else was solid. I can't wait to see him in game.
My bad the name tripped me up
still temple
very epic, bigger menacing teeth
compact matrix
Indeed, Herrera's personality is one of nippiness so bigger chompers are much appreciated.
onyx cargo
-winces at the shrink wrapped skin
But i still dig the design
Want big boi teeth for hereras
Big teeth for holding ongo things and being a pest
shell willow
shrink wrapped?
onyx cargo
The skin is just ....hmmm its too tight on the skull
shell willow
its normal for reptiles' heads to lay tight on their skulls
onyx cargo
Yes, but not entirely that tight and our tiny reptiles hardly have the bite force dinos did.
shell willow
herrera was a small dino, tbh
jade mango
Okay i'm really happy with that clip now. Dewlap won't be out all the time noice
onyx cargo
True
onyx cargo
I just feel it should be more iguana y
jade mango
If you can see any of the empty spaces on the skull it's too shrinkwrapped
compact matrix
Shrinkwrapping is fine to keep visual consistency with other isle animals
It's not a problem for me
jade mango
Like from a realism point
But this isn't realism it's the isle so I don't mind the shrinkwrapping
onyx cargo
Same
shell willow
I think its fine, just look at our cursed naked utah
compact matrix
It's also easier to tell the referencing from the original material if the anatomy is somewhat close to the skeletal
jade mango
^
onyx cargo
I dont mind it at all bc its just a game and im having hella fun
I just appreciate the fact theres a decent dino game actually out
Fun fact btw. Chickens are classified as reptiles technically
daring cosmos
Oh damn guess that was a fluke of perspective, well nvm then all is good I guess
pseudo rivet
@onyx cargo I'd like to see the source on chickens being classified as reptiles?
Far as I'm aware they are classified as Aves
onyx cargo
Its in off topic ^^
pseudo rivet
Ah, I see now
steep dome
@covert hull I love all of your suggestions 
id LOVE to see Nanotyrannus or possibly Pyroraptor would be cool as well. Pretty much any new species would be exciting to me though lol
pseudo rivet
I really want to see Iguanodon as a playable Dinosaur. Though I'd like to see more non-dinosaurs as well. Especially some of the crazy Triassic stuff if it needs to be from the Mesozoic. Saurosuchus would make an excellent quadrupedal predator.
oblique summit
indigo sun
Yeah no offense i dont think "because it's real" is something that's really gonna sway the devs. They want creepy, almost that one jurassic park game troodon
nocturne sonnet
nines is right the isle is not meant to be real not for every dino
ebon tiger
@granite hamlet what about a sauropod? they're thought to continue growing, and are ideal for unlimited growth, i'd imagine
granite hamlet
yeah, that would also work. That would give both sides (herb and carni) this feature and might even it out
and it would give Hypos a little challange (depending what sauropod it's gonna be)
violet magnet
āØ hating on featherless dinosaurs and continuously bringing up the fact that "dinosaurs had feathers" does not make you look cool and intelligent, it makes you look like a pedantic asshole āØ
phew i just had to get that out after like 3 people have been going on and on about it
indigo sun
Oh were other people complaining about this shit too? Did they at least have a better argument than "dis is for da realism!"
violet magnet
a feathered skin option would be cool, but "because this was reality" isn't enough of a reason for devs to spend however much extra money putting feathers on the models would take :/
nah it was basically the same reasoning
ebon tiger
i think one of the devs suggested it might become an optional feature?
granite hamlet
i mean, i am gonna be a little pedantic here too. In truth all dinos had the CHANCE to have had feathers (in whatever form) so saying they don't have them 100% is just false, except science proved it. For example that rex didn't have feathers on specific body areas (does not mean it didn't have any at all though). But back to the game itself, i personally don't mind them not having feathers (or having them). Except Theri, i only accept feathered Theri.
indigo sun
It was said in a past ask-a-dev that they might do feathered options
What's real is fine, but this game doesnt seem to give a shit about paleo-perfect accurate dinosaurs so suggesting something solely based on realism is kinda dumb.
granite hamlet
yeah, that's what i said. I don't mind them having feathers ingame or not (except Theri). I could care less that Utha doesn't have feathers ingame, even if it had them in real life. It's the dev's game so they get to decide. I am okay with that.
ebon tiger
i'd like to point out that feathers are rather limited on dinosaurs. only a few groups have them, even if the groups themselves are large, like maniraptorans
the majority of dinosaurs are either known for scaled skin or unlikely to have had feathers
granite hamlet
nah, all dinosaurs have a common ancestor that had feathers and according to scientists all dinosaurs have had the potential to have them too. If they did or not, they would have to find out with skin impressions (which there rarely are any)
anyway, that's paleo talk though
ebon tiger
it's theorised it's a basal trait, but that's still debated since ornithischian feathers are different from saurischian feathers, suggesting a different origin
stark canopy
barren zephyr
make the skull smaller and it'll be perfect
you have to remember there are muscles and skin on top of the skull
pale schooner
Bruh, donāt tag devs unless you want a whooping
indigo sun
@cobalt coral monolophosaurus is planned to be its own thing
torn thistle
cobalt coral
i realized that after i posted
indigo sun
@keen trail flyers are coming after terrestrial animals are done. You'll have to wait a good bit for it. No reason to suggest they put an animal that isnt a priority in the game anytime soon
indigo sun
I mean, if you knew it was far from likely why would you suggest it?
keen trail
I didnāt know it was far from likely
indigo sun
Well now you are aware that fliers are still pretty far away
keen trail
I didnāt even know when ptera was planned to come out. I just figured it might be after but if it wasnāt then there the suggestion
Ok
cobalt coral
@indigo sun chill
indigo sun
K
oblique sluice
@cobalt coral Give ourano some unique mechanic because we already have maia and tenonto is coming
pseudo rivet
@oblique sluice that's why I want Iguanodon. Hench boi
maiden talon
Actually, maybe one solution to live carry is allow the person to be carried to try and escape, which deals damage to them each time, lets say like a quarter of their health each time so after four times they would die and be free or something like that
@barren zephyr
barren zephyr
@maiden talon Maybe some stam drain
maiden talon
stam drain for the person carrying?
maiden talon
I could see that working pretty well, also would make it so people would have to carefully plan out long intentional carries, like carrying hatchlings or something
kind venture
@severe idol yea but I don't get put in a queue when trying to join a full server
@dense shuttle only females being able to pick up youngs and only in packs doesn't make sense, there should be some sort of scale
dense shuttle
but its already being sdaid it wont get added...
which is why i said for females in their pack to be able to pick up hatchlings
kind venture
And that's where they need to add a balance system in the way of maybe killing the animal while carying it depending on your bite force and animal or having some sort of timer
dense shuttle
the whole point is that only females could pick up young because of there instinct not to kill there kid
are you not smart?
kind venture
And somebody mentioned an escape system maybe which would also deal damage to you if you don't manage to do it
dense shuttle
its a god damn hatchling
kind venture
Yea, that wouldn't deal damage, of course, I know how that works and animals still do that
dense shuttle
you are not on about my suggestion please stop talking t me
kind venture
Yea, I get your point
But what I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense for only females to be able to pick up other dinos and only their little hatchlings
Just from a physics point
kind venture
And I said that they should maybe add a balancing system to that, maybe like some sort of fatigue or escape system
thorny crag
the new croc should definetly be able to hide hatchlings in their mouth
kind venture
I'm talking about picking up bigger things
dense shuttle
dont speak about it here then
dense shuttle
suggestion discussion smartass
kind venture
Yea, and I'm talking about a suggestion
dense shuttle
ur not tho
kind venture
People have asked about this and I am also talking about Your suggestion and adding points to it
Thus I think that it counts here
thorny crag
also when a female would pick up a small one it should walk slower, so it can't run as fast as normal to save itself and the hatchling while being hunted but can hide
severe idol
LADIES! You're both pretty. Now stay on target.
severe idol
I did just say to leave it alone.
dense shuttle
oop
kind venture
It's still a discussion, just talking about a suggestion
dense shuttle
but that suggestion wasnt my suggestion
kind venture
And I'm talking about another one, and you interfered
dense shuttle
ok
quasi stream
@azure dust
I asked Dondi for a Delta.
Check this out: (At time: 1:24:07 )
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/534292714?filter=archives&sort=time
He basically read my "We want a delta at the end of the river, Pog in chat". Then there were 1000 Pogs in chat, then Dondi said:
Don't fucking say Pog for him, you're not getting a Delta at the end of THIS river. You have no idea how hard it is to make a Delta
azure dust
My bad! Thank you for letting me know. ā¤ļø
barren zephyr
It is cow
indigo sun
any actual reason?
stray cloak
we already have hadrosaurs
indigo sun
"If you post please add this dino (replace dino with animal), explain why the animal should be added and what mechanics it could have" - From the pinned messages of the channel. You need an actual reason to add an animal, because adding shit is very expensive.
devout flower
not to mention that shitposting isn't taken kindly by admin, which this seems like
indigo sun
also yeah you can get a strike for troll suggestions, theyre really not a fan of them
devout flower
wastes everyone's time
barren zephyr
What do I have to go threw to suggest cow in game š
covert birch
Cow would just be walking burgers. Free food
barren zephyr
For milk
covert birch
The only way i would see cows is if they go very deep into human stuff
barren zephyr
And food
indigo sun
what would milk add to the game at all..
covert birch
We have maia milk for that 
barren zephyr
For hoomans to drink
indigo sun
i see no reason for these scientists to bring cows into the island that theyre very clearly controlling the ecosystem of.
devout flower
or they could drink water
covert birch
Ofc the guy called happycow likes this suggestion
Anyways only way i would see cows working is if they make humans pull a jurassic park if they get very advanced. But that wont happen
stray cloak
also the bit where 2/3 of people are lactose intolerant
barren zephyr
Besides, hoomans can't drink water from pounds
indigo sun
i only see cows existing if they were using them as test shit in the beginning but without actual care, the cows would very quickly die off to the dinosaurs that assumed control of the island
barren zephyr
They will poison themselfes
stray cloak
there's no empty niche a cow could occupy
indigo sun
they can, people who are taught to survive in the wild can sterilize water and also drinking from rivers is generally sort of alright
covert birch
Yea magy already took the cow niche
stray cloak
^
barren zephyr
Don't you disrespect cow like that
covert birch
But yea cows would just die of insanely quickly on a dino filled island
solemn current
cow good animal
covert birch
Hell cows if humans went extinct would go extinct too
barren zephyr
Ye
ebon tiger
cows are also highly adapted for grazing grass, so they'd not be short of food, but yeah, predation would devastate them once the predators were large enough to kill them
which, tbh, wouldn't take that long
stray cloak
gestation too long, competition from other herbivores, over predation from carnivores.
not particularly useful to humans. milk isn't even that great for you
barren zephyr
Cows would make this game better.
stray cloak
give an example of how then
barren zephyr
MILK
devout flower
this is trolling
barren zephyr
it isnt
indigo sun
there is no actual reason for cows to exist in the game. Humans would have been the ones containing and taking care of them and since humans clearly fucked up somewhere along the line and died or some shit, if they were in indoor facilities they wouldn't get any care and starve to death or some shit and if they were outdoors being grazed and not in a facility they woulda just been killed off nearly instantly. The only reason for cows to have possibly existed on the island was for testing and since testing is no longer happening they would have died off
devout flower
excuse the pun but he's trying to get your goat
barren zephyr
I'm very serious right now.
stray cloak
i know he's trolling. i want to see what sort of excuse he is capable of coming up with
devout flower
i'm sure
stray cloak
A look into a damaged mind
ebon tiger
not much competition from herbivores, since dinosaurs wouldn't eat that much grass, whereas a cow would mostly eat grass. if it wasn't for the predators, i think cows would've survived well enough around the herbivores
indigo sun
cows arent animals really designed for riding.
barren zephyr
But we don't want cows to get killed ofc
indigo sun
if they were i'm sure they'd actually be used.
solemn current
hypo cow maybe
devout flower
i want a dev to see this convo
solemn current
ebon tiger
technically, no animal is "designed" for riding, we just happen to favour riding horses
indigo sun
good point
barren zephyr
U guys are big bullies š”
covert birch
yall still on this?
barren zephyr
Yes
covert birch
Look dude cows aint gonna work
devout flower
nah we just want an explanation beyond 'cows make milk and can be ridden into battle' lmfao
severe idol
Let's move on from cows.
barren zephyr
Aw cmoon
devout flower
thank you saoul
devout flower
banhamma
severe idol
Cows are dumb, slow, and don't live on uneven ground well. Go with goats.
That being said. New topic time.
barren zephyr
OK that is disrespectful
severe idol
I will only tell you to move on one more time. After that I will remove you.
covert birch
Speaking of goats. Pachy mountain goat niche wen
stray cloak
doesn't the avg utah player already kind of act like it
indigo sun
pachy mountain goat niche is a good idea. has anyone made a suggestion about that yet?
barren zephyr
OK I won't talk about cows anymore š
devout flower
i like the idea of atmospheric changes with altitude, kinda tying in to the suggestion above the cows
covert birch
a while ago nines
THey showed picks of those goats walkin on that dam
They had that in their suggestion
covert birch
Nah best way to make it would be giving pachy insane lvls of fall damage reduction
ebon tiger
i'm wondering if the Pachy would gain omnivory to parallel a recent theory, though i doubt it. if they did, it would make them even more like goats š
severe idol
To also maintain that it's a place where humans were at one time and raising these dinosaurs. Goats are a more reliable food source than cows. It makes more sense for wild goats than cows. They breed faster, have less geographical limitations, and require less abundant herbaceous resources.
stray cloak
could just increase the incline required to make them fall and that would have the same effect
except it would be a 1 number edit
ebon tiger
goats can get into some insane places. like trees and walls
stray cloak
maybe slightly more depending on where that is set
devout flower
pachys do weigh a bit tho, do they not? pudgy chunks
ebon tiger
you'd need a stronger tree, but why not?
devout flower
i do like the idea of them reaching places others cant tho
barren zephyr
How are u supossed to hunt goats than :\
devout flower
we aren't talking literal goats
covert birch
We are talkin bout makin pachys climb like goats
devout flower
^
barren zephyr
Ok
Sry
And I apologize bcs of spamming cows I just came with another of my weird ideas
night mountain
Seriously though the live carry thing is such an easy fix
Have it work like a minute then you drop em
ebon tiger
maybe it's not that simple?
compact matrix
@ashen elm you should have added barosaurus
patent spade
if you only carry them for like a minute then whats the point of even having the feature
ashen elm
I might but what is or is not Barosaurus is kinda a mess rn. Traditional B. Lentus size is basically a even lighter D. Carnegii with switched neck-tail proportions. Then you get the giant Baro and that's š±
indigo sun
@kindred mango Sorry, i cant agree with punishing people for surviving, even big animals
patent spade
i would rather my dino die to my own hands or at the hands of another player than for time to kill my dino
spend a week trying to grow your rex? well get fucked its dying of old age
indigo sun
kinda not fair to people putting time and effort into growing these big animals, especially with riskier behavior being encouraged in exchange for shorter growth
patent spade
it would make growing anything pointless cause why bother when its gonna die of old age
indigo sun
you take that risk and earn your animal only to get fucked over in the end
ebon tiger
a better suggestion somebody has already made was dinos gaining an "elder" status with some physical changes to show a rougher, more time-worn looking animal, but not dying of age or losing stats
mighty marten
I think the older the dinosaur, the stronger it gets. If your spino has been alive and has seen many things, it should be wise and do better. Yep. It survived countless volcanic eruptions? Well now the spino can make fire. Boom.
Im being silly, but I do like the idea of Elder dinosaurs being stronger than younger ones, as they have the combat experience.
sick seal
@humble nova we already have that
we have walk, trot run and sprint plus the shift one click to switch between would take too long to get from sprint to walk or trot to sprint
you feel
barren zephyr
walk/trot is toggled by z
sick seal
yeah thats what a sprint is
barren zephyr
run is shift, "sprint" would be ambush
ebon tiger
you can also sprint without ambush, just by holding "shift"
humble nova
I bet dinosaurs didn't have to squat either to sprint
sick seal
thats because its an ambush
barren zephyr
- i think two types of running isn't needed
sick seal
u have to be sneaky
barren zephyr
it's just overcomplicating it for no reason
sick seal
^
humble nova
Even then, the game isn't historically accurate
paper oriole
@verbal scarab wrong channel
verbal scarab
ight
humble nova
Like that's not a valid argument at sll
sick seal
im saying ur method of the walking- sprinting is unecessary
barren zephyr
nonetheless, adding another way to run is just overcomplicating it lol
it works fine as it is rn
sick seal
Gorest FumpToday at 3:56 PM
But irl you can Sprint without squatting right
Right
humble nova
I said you don't have to squat to sprint and shouldn't have to
barren zephyr
there's no need to add something else
sick seal
then u said it wasnt historically accurate
like?
i know but thats the point of an ambush
if u look it up
itll tell you
indigo sun
we got four modes of movement already, ambush is a sprint and having to crouch doesnt mean shit its preparing to get into the sprint
sick seal
thats not my point ur talking about something else
humble nova
As in you are saying dinosaurs need to squat to sprint
sick seal
exactly @indigo sun
barren zephyr
the whole squatting thing is irrelevant
sick seal
its because that's just how they implemented the sprint and it makes sense because it helps when hunting in game
a regular sprint wouldn't give any advantage at all
humble nova
Yes it would
barren zephyr
its about the modes of movement, even if you have to perform something specific to engage that movement
humble nova
It's putting forth more effort to run
sick seal
but you can already do that
humble nova
Whether it's in a Chase or to get away
sick seal
plus it'll have the same cool down and unbalance the game
barren zephyr
the current system works fine
humble nova
Yeah but it's also just regular running travel but to get away
sick seal
it'll still have a cooldown like the current sprint does
but thats what the regular run is for
and they all have set speeds
adding extra speed for longer would achieve nothing
because everyone would just run a little faster
humble nova
Think about it like this
sick seal
i only see it good for travel but then again it isnt necessary
i know what you are saying
humble nova
There's a run in dire situations and there's a run for travel
humble nova
It seems unnatural to have the same animations for 2 different purposes
sick seal
its just a little extra speed bro
the crouch is to hide and then run at something
its purposed towards hunting
verbal scarab
itās a running start
sick seal
if u wanna get away with it then use it
indigo sun
all the sprint is is running a little bit faster than you normally do
humble nova
Yeah I know what an ambush is
sick seal
then stop syaing it's something else
barren zephyr
sure, herbis dont have ambush, but they're balanced for a different playstyle
sick seal
^^
barren zephyr
or they're already built to outrun predators under most circumstances
humble nova
hold on
sick seal
all the dinos have a defined playstyle (para is supposed to be quiet + unseen, galli = fast sprint anyway)
kindred mango
Para, quiet? Everytime I hear a para call I see the riders of Rohan appear.
sick seal
because they aren't playing it how it is designed?
humble nova
?
indigo sun
@tame hawk you need more than "add this animal" in your suggestion
sick seal
u see rexes start 1 calling and challenging trikes and they just die
trikes out stat a rex
in a 1v1
indigo sun
unless that is what youre typing out currently, if so, apologies im used to the image coming after the suggestion
sick seal
para's are slow and have little defense against apexes so they are more designed to a quiet playstyle they have loud calls to attract predators that's their counter
barren zephyr
i think they mean "para is supposed to be quiet" as para should be played somewhat stealthily when they can, and just avoid apexes at all costs since they can't escape that well (?)
indigo sun
sorry originally you only had "idea: changyuraptor" and i didnt see any more typing happening because apparently my computer doesnt like me, but you added a bit more so ignore what I originally said
tame hawk
Oh no worries :D
kindred mango
What shall I provide if I wanna make a species suggestion? Playstyle, to which tier it belongs, maybe pictures?
indigo sun
what it is, what would make it stand out from the rest of the roster so it's not something like "add tarbo pls its cool"
sick seal
but it takes too long to slow down
barren zephyr
again
sick seal
like in a fight when ur turning sharply fromt a sprint to walk its too long
plus sliding is being implemented
barren zephyr
its something that isn't necessary as it doesnt really add much to the gameplay ngl
humble nova
What?
sick seal
^
humble nova
Why would you need to go from sprint to walk in a millisecond
Your playing devils advocate for no reason
barren zephyr
the conversation is just going in circles, there's no point in having it lol
humble nova
Its a perfectly good system, looks sick and works perfectly fine on this game
sick seal
so if ur movement style was implemented it'll be even more slow. plus ur max speed is already the sprint, each dino has a different speed. it'll be the same if u add ur extra sprint since it'll be added to all the dinos; no dino in particular
the isle is different
humble nova
It just adds a chase animation and drains stam faster while boosting you a bit
barren zephyr
again, it's essentially ambush with no charge-up system
humble nova
Its a detail is all
barren zephyr
so it's already in the game in some form
humble nova
yeah but prey isnt gonna sprint
sick seal
has different plays styles and fighting styles, it's unecessary
humble nova
You are aying ambush and sprint are the same thing
sick seal
prey can run, if it is fast it should get away
ur run system will be added to everything
adding it to the predators will make it unbalanced
sick seal
ambush and sprint are the same it's both extra speed for a short time
humble nova
dinos
humble nova
because its literally a life-like feature that almost every life form on earth has
sick seal
like u said before it isn't historically accurate or life like
humble nova
?
barren zephyr
again, it's just over-complicating things for literally no reason
humble nova
I was countering your argument
Because you were saying dinosaurs wouldve needed to squat
barren zephyr
the game works fine as it is with the current run and ambush system
humble nova
which is literally wrong
sick seal
kindred mango
I like the idea of every animal having a trot and a max speed. just a different acceleration, so obviously a raptor is full speed much quicker than a trike
humble nova
exactly you were arguing history
barren zephyr
im pretty sure they just said you have to crouch to ambush in this game
humble nova
When the game isnt accurate
indigo sun
i dont think anyone said dinosaurs needed to squat
humble nova
so it wouldnt matter making your whole argument moot
sick seal
bruh
the point of the game is inaccurate
its scientifically revived dinos, ofc it isnt gonna be the same
my argument is valid, urs isnt
it hasnt been this whole time
humble nova
Its a life-like detail and you are saying its unecessary
humble nova
the devs are trying to make it as life-like as possible whilst balancing the other stuff
sick seal
their max speed is their run
barren zephyr
sure, it might be life-like, but it's unnecessary because the current system works fine
humble nova
thats why theres leaning
sick seal
plus the sprint is a short burst
indigo sun
the current system works just fine and theres no reason to add in unnecessary stuff
sick seal
having a longer sprint would have a stam cap anyway like the current one if u wanna go "life like"
humble nova
they are working on life-like details and im pointing out another one
barren zephyr
their run is supposed to be their all-out run as far as ik
humble nova
Right now its both
sick seal
with depleting stam
humble nova
Its a travel run and a chase/hunt run
sick seal
there will not be a sprint
barren zephyr
people would just mirror eachother, if their prey accels then they accel
sick seal
unnatural like sprinting off for about 2 minutes without stopping
barren zephyr
it adds little to nothing
sick seal
^^^^
sick seal
thats what u were implying
humble nova
Who ever said that was going to be necessary
sick seal
to add an extra speed
barren zephyr
bruh
sick seal
ontop
humble nova
You are literally adding bits of nothing you your pathetic argument
sick seal
says you
sick seal
you're the one arguing ove rsomething that ISNT NECESSARY BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY IN THE GAME
how is it proven
humble nova
While your arguing about things no one even talked about
indigo sun
goddamn this is a shitshow to watch.
barren zephyr
^
sick seal
u sent a video from another game with a different mechanism
humble nova
You said the sprint would take to slow to decellerate
barren zephyr
sit back n watch them go
sick seal
imagine taking a tight turn to bit and u have to slow down then turn to make it tight enough to bit the dino next to you
its like playing carno
trying to kill a utah
sick seal
there are preset stats for each dino already for different hunting and play styles with differentspeeds, you're trying to make everything the same
barren zephyr
again, if your prey accels, then you mirror them and accel
it literally adds nothing
sick seal
sliding is already in the game = allo
humble nova
Its just a chase/hunt animation
sick seal
plus being added more efficiently in the recode
exactly
thats
what we have
been saying
no need to add more speed
humble nova
you have an ambush
barren zephyr
well yeah, it doesnt matter and is an irrelevant form of movement
sick seal
predator has ambush because they can sneak up and ambush, run is their current long "sprint" it's their max run a sprint is a short burst
thats legit the definition of a sprint a short amount of speed
barren zephyr
humble nova
So your saying
sick seal
u want it for longer in a progressive way with 1 button, we have different buttons already for it = it's quicker and it's the same
humble nova
The sprint is their limit of acceleration
sick seal
exactly for a short period
humble nova
and they are too weak to speed up
sick seal
u want it fo rlonger and progessively
no
i never said they were too weak to speed up
they already can
u making things up now
sick seal
when did i say weak
sick seal
ill listen when u listen to me
barren zephyr
sliding is already involved with vanilla run within the recode build(?)
sick seal
because obviously you left ur cataracts in too long
barren zephyr
so adding extra speed literally means nothing
humble nova
what if they are in the plains
barren zephyr
well then the allo shouldnt be visible if it wants to ambush something
sick seal
allo playstyle is to ambush because it isnt fast enough
humble nova
Have you seen the new upcoming map
sick seal
plus why would it kill a maia if it's faster than it
barren zephyr
well then it shouldnt try hunt something in the plains? lol
humble nova
its got less taller vegetation in areas
devout flower
<@&401466542140817419> break these two up pls, been going at it for like 20 mins
and it's literally about nothing
humble nova
Bruh
barren zephyr
almost 40 
severe idol
This is going no where. You two sort it out in DMs.
sick seal
it's balancing, maia is mainly speed and no damage and allo is more damage and not much speed but makes up for it in the short burst
severe idol
There will not be a second time of me saying it.
sick seal
okay i'll end it now, gorest dump ur argument makes no sense and it will not be implemented :)
humble nova
Theres been no good argument point from Exotic so I suppose ill end it
severe idol
Good. Don't continue it.
short blaze
Maybe Tobii Eye Tracking sometime in the future?
indigo sun
@scarlet thicket i do believe they said no to first person, at least for dinosaurs.
scarlet thicket
severe idol
@simple maple - Can't control venom glands in baby rattlers is a misnomer. They're just more aggressive, thus bite more than once.
The more you know š
simple maple
Good to know, I thought it seemed fishy lol
night mountain
To be fair baby venomous dinosaurs would totally be less dangerous for a bite
Baby rattlers are only about the same because their venom is enough to kill you in one hit either way even if you arenāt getting some huge fat dose from a big adult
ebon tiger
@barren zephyr why 4x stamina use for herbivore charge?
barren zephyr
cause trike is Horrify already
ebon tiger
so is a charging Rex if you're a herbi
barren zephyr
Not wrong
I have killed rexs though I think trike is fine were its at so giving it this is kinda scary
ebon tiger
i'm not sure what the stamina loss is for ambush, but if it is 2x for carnivore, wouldn't it make more sense for herbis to be the same for a charge?
violet magnet
why would herbi charge drain 4x stamina but carni ambush would still drain only 2x stamina
do i smell carni bias perhaps hmmm
barren zephyr
No iam just kinda taking it at face value
Things that eat plants dont need to charge down plants
I love trike to be fair
rather play it then rex
ebon tiger
no, but giving a charging herbivore with quadruple the stamina drain for a charge seems unfair if carnivore only had double
violet magnet
things that eat plants but get hunted on the regular need to charge down the carnis that hunt them tho
ebon tiger
Trike's already not the fastest even when running, so it seems strange to penalise them so much
barren zephyr
Id just like to see a charging mechanic
2x times is fine
I shall edit
I think herbivores have less stamina then most carnivores anyways could be wrong though
indigo sun
@thorny crag collision is planned and has been shown off already
thorny crag
ah sorry I have not seen
thorny crag
absolutely and a source for insect eaters š
fallen folio
yaaas ikr š
patent spade
god not another god damn peeing suggestion
safe galleon
you miss pooping?
indigo sun
No organic waste, thanks. Its fuckin gross
patent spade
not to mention pointless
plush meadow
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devout flower
tfw people suggest things that are already happening, like collision
patent spade
from what I understand humans arent a priority and we wont be seeing them for a while
still temple
beipiao alt skin that makes it an insect eater 
indigo sun
Is flash assuming the tribals are some native people humans??
patent spade
dunno I'm just ignoring it since we wont be seeing humans for a long time
devout flower
what else would they be? o:
indigo sun
Have you not seen the tribal/cannibal model?