Lol so funny
#general-feedback-discussion
barren zephyr
covert birch
yes very funny
barren zephyr
indigo sun
hahahahhahahahahh lollololol its sooo funny i laughed so hard
barren zephyr
Haha lol so funny
covert birch
anyways back to suggestion discussion before mods gib us the slap
indigo sun
did you see my map suggestion, blue?
barren zephyr
It must be bad
covert birch
I feel like there should be randomly spawns in those areas
Instead of 3 campable spawn points
indigo sun
yeah good point
barren zephyr
Tf
covert birch
and you can have 4 of em.
So like each dot can be a circle and you spawn randomly in that circle
barren zephyr
Hmmm is that hope?
barren zephyr
Oh its big
covert birch
Since this is old version
slow stream
Rn I see 4 islands
covert birch
I see 3
barren zephyr
Same
covert birch
colors make it hard to see but yea
1 big 1 smol 1 med
and i think there is meant to be 1 more around the top right
since so much extra stuff there
barren zephyr
How will dinos get to the other island(swimming) but the stamina will go down !??
And they die
barren zephyr
Oh
covert birch
Doubt thatll happen tho so well have to see
Personally i hope only specific dinos can spawn on each island
So like rex on 1 island, giga on the next
and spino being able to cross
barren zephyr
But what about herbivores ??
barren zephyr
So all herbivores can spawn in the island as an example
indigo sun
drakon i dont see a 4th island
barren zephyr
And carnivores in different islands
indigo sun
ooh that little thing?
covert birch
Nines im just thinkin theyll add a 4th island
indigo sun
i dont think that even really counts
covert birch
In the top right
slow stream
Islands count as a body of land surrounded by water :c
barren zephyr
That is Jurassic world
indigo sun
it doesnt actually count as a separate island though. at most it'll be some spino and ptera nesting grounds or something
slow stream
Oh okie
covert birch
I hope a huge broken human bridge connects that very small island to the big island
covert birch
And the human biome dinosauric said he wanted would be on the small island
barren zephyr
Is hope the only new map coming ?
covert birch
It prolly aint comin with recode
covert birch
barren zephyr
Hmmm didn’t that happen on their past?
indigo sun
see for a second the conversation was nice but then i decided a block would be better
covert birch
Ive gotten used to it
indigo sun
i just wish that, for 5 seconds, people could actually be mature, blue
covert birch
Those animations would fall in line with mating animations
Anything which is fetishizable shouldnt be in the game imo
Like for example people who suggest poop/piss for tracking elements
Destructable terrain would be so much better
but they went for the worse option
covert birch
No i mean
people went to suggestion poop
for tracking instead of destructable terrain
covert birch
Yes it would
slow stream
Piss/shit/mate/lay-ing is disgusting and I'd much rather not have that in my game if I ever make one
barren zephyr
The
covert birch
Nah im ending it before it starts
barren zephyr
Drakon some people want the game realistic sooo
glad dirge
Go play Ark if you want that.
covert birch
someone said dino egg laying animations and i explained why fetishable things shouldnt be in this game
glad dirge
I 100% agree
covert birch
and i used people who asked for poop as an example
glad dirge
I don't want to see that
glad dirge
^
barren zephyr
Soo kids would find that disgusting?
indigo sun
the isle doesnt need to be exactly realistic
barren zephyr
.
indigo sun
mod that shit in if you want your dino to lay eggs so bad
glad dirge
^
slow stream
Gore is the stuff for the isle
glad dirge
What difference does that make?
covert birch
Anyways ignoring weird suggestion ideas. What do yall think of my swarm playable suggestion
glad dirge
I love that
barren zephyr
Its a freaking suggestion is not like dondi will add that
glad dirge
Like your own personal tiny army
slow stream
It's a damn neat idea
glad dirge
Whaaat.
glad dirge
I like watching the Velos hunt down oros
barren zephyr
Boring
covert birch
But idk if skyrim made followers semi work
indigo sun
yeah, that'd be an issue
glad dirge
All in good time
covert birch
One day in the very far future
indigo sun
i feel like it would also be hard to properly control a swarm
barren zephyr
covert birch
well the whole idea is the swarm mimics the dino you control. Its less starcraft type movement and more skyrim having followers type movement
indigo sun
if one of the animals in the swarm dies would that be damage to the entire swarm then?
covert birch
each lil dino would have individual health
glad dirge
@livid ember While the trike was really heavy, I like the sort of galumphing gallop it has right now. It supports the clashing and ramming of heads, if that ever is added. Which duels would be awesome.
And yes elephants do fight too, but the lack the slamming into one another
Well unless you are alone, and you dont want a group of your own
sort of a
lone compy
barren zephyr
Is compy going to be playable and ai at the same time?
glad dirge
Maybe if you choose or something, group or no group. Because I'll rule the map on my own without an army
covert birch
wait lemme add that
glad dirge
Did anyone say they were going to be on survival though? Or only sandbox, because I know you can only play ai on sandbox as of now
besides being injected in
covert birch
glad dirge
Ah, thank you.
indigo sun
Not all of em will come on the first day, yeah
glad dirge
Im dam excited for it though
covert birch
Im still thinkin its gonna be utah, hypsi, teno, and troodon as only day 1 playables
then they add like 4 every 2 weeeks
covert birch
both gettin rework
vestal rune
@brazen berry a while ago dondi did confirm that a very high tier item for mercs would be a small 2 seater helicopter with no weapons
covert birch
nah
Bryan said why would herra climb trees
when he was talkin to us like day 1 or 2 of phase 2
he also said why would herra be fastest
indigo sun
Other things might be better suited to climbing
covert birch
and that its getting a size nerf
brazen berry
Ohh so a buzzard @vestal rune
indigo sun
Yes
brazen berry
It would be interesting if it was like a rare random spawn for mercs
glad dirge
Im all for giggle chickens climbin trees though
brazen berry
But I can easily see most human related things being camped by carnies
covert birch
I like the idea of the most OP human stuff being airdropped in
So humans can risk going for it
but everything will know your there
Otherwise things like pistols which prolly will only be dangerous to something cera sized and under should spawn randomly/semi-rarely across the map
brazen berry
Yeah well, supply drops would more so have common weapons and gear
A 9mil would only be useful for something the size of a rabbit same for .223/5.56
308 hunting rifles are more likely to put down something the size of a bear
brazen berry
It sounds interesting but I am fearful that if one person controls a swarm of let’s say 10 and add 5 more people playing with swarms that could just group up
covert birch
ya wouldnt be able to gorup with these dinos
if ya talkin bout players with players
brazen berry
Oh?
covert birch
Its more of a solo experience imo
Imagine 10 compy swarms together
Thatll be 200 compys
Actually i just realized i prolly didnt put that there
brazen berry
Then yeah that’s cool, I just didn’t like the possible thought of multiple compy swarms joining together
covert birch
Originally i was planning to let that happen
But reduce the amount of dinos per swarm
alot
So like 4 velos only and 6 compys only
brazen berry
Cause things like humans and smaller Dino’s don’t stand a chance
covert birch
then i realized nah i dont want a huge army of things raping all smalls
then i changed it
brazen berry
Yeah
But yeah things like vehicles should be randomly spawned in certain locations and should be rare so that finding one feels like being Tallahassee getting his Twinkie
vestal rune
ah I don't recall the vehicle he wanted
I think it was like a bumblebee? eh
wait no
vestal rune
@brittle bone fairly sure that's confirmed, was shown on a dev stream
oh ye, I imagine jeeps would sort of be mid tier
brittle bone
@vestal rune oh sweeeeeet thanks!
vestal rune
I can get the clip if you'd like
brittle bone
Yes please :))
vestal rune
I'll DM it
torn thistle
@reef nova Definitely moreso a question than suggestion
reef nova
either way i hope its a thing
there was only 1 popular one in the 2 years ive been playing the isle and it fell apart because it couldnt figure out what type of server they wanted to be
but at the time it was full all the time peak oce tz
and the difference playing with 30 ping instead of 150-200 was huge
craggy scarab
@barren zephyr #general-feedback is not the place to respond. literally why this channel exists.
@wanton root I'd suggest elaborating on your suggestion, else it will be removed.
jade mango
@loud vine I think that's kind of a really good idea as Stegosaurs were adapted to eating poisonous or otherwise nonviable cycads
ebon tiger
whereas hadrosaurs and some sauropods were better at handling conifer leaves
pseudo falcon
@valid zephyr
valid zephyr
Would love to see a herbi charge like that for ramming animals.
Also maybe something like ambush sprint for creatures such as dryo, to represent them crouching low in the bushes when a predator is near, then when it gets too close sprinting away with a burst of speed. (like pheasants do)?
dense dew
Yeah not all herbies should have a charge, trikes would actually shatter thier skulls if they tried that
valid zephyr
Keep in mind the isle animals are modified and made up. They can do things they couldn't irl.
dense dew
Of course, but they are aiming for semi-realism
pseudo falcon
I mean, a rhino doesn't shatter it's skull when it rams into stuff
why would a trike
neither do elephants
valid zephyr
If spino can be turned into a giant monster theropod with long legs and a bulky jaw, a trike can be made to charge. It's a relatively minor change.
@pseudo falcon trikes irl have a very delicate area around the nose which would shatter. Rhinos don't have this.
Could easily say the scientists modified trike to remove that weakness.
indigo sun
Put any suggestions in #general-feedback
rustic obsidian
Whoops, misread, I'll copy and paste and then delete :)
glad dirge
@quasi stream I love that. That should 100% be added
quasi stream
Thank you friend
rare bramble
I agree
valid zephyr
aquatic minmi is an awesome idea. aquatic nodosaurs in general would be fun to play 
covert birch
Minmi and other small nodosaurs are the only thin i really see as aquatic
but yes they would be great fun to be
Love the idea of snapping turtle a juvi deino to death
night mountain
Lmao wtf infinite growth minmi
I love it genuinely add that
Give it to catfish too
valid zephyr
jesus not the catfish
those things eat anything
infinite growth catfish will start eating spinos
covert birch
Give all fish infinite growth
and when they start gettin to big they go out to the ocean
for spinos to nom
covert birch
@barren zephyr i feel like making burrowing for minmi take any longer than dryo would just make it alot weaker
@kindred mango if ya wanna suggest a new dino. Ya gotta give substance. Such as unique mechanics ,playstyles and such
kindred mango
alrighty, will write down something tomorrow. nearly midnight over here.
rose hazel
When i imagine minmi burrowing, i imagine it more like those lizards that hide in the sand? It just shimmies down in the earth
covert birch
@rose hazel mimi burrowin prolly would look like this
Imo if totoises can burrow minmi prolly can
rose hazel
Then thats just dryo burrowing isnt it?
covert birch
Well ya can have diff kinda burrows
Like dryo would make a bunch of connected holes
But a minmi would make 1 long tunnel
rose hazel
Im picturing it chuckling from the darkness of the burrow xD
Dryos are more rabbit-like in their burrows then so they would probably be more permanent while Minmi are straight and temporary, more likely?
covert birch
Minmi usin its burrow to just hide from anythin near is what im thinkin
Or minmi as a snapping turtle
rose hazel
Ye exactly
covert birch
which burys itself in hte sand
But that is from my suggestion and not heavys
so diff topic
But still minmi would be neat usin the burrow to hide/ leave area with big bois
rose hazel
To just nope outta there
rose hazel
👌 😎
indigo sun
@icy tangle no point in removing canyons or making any other changes to a map that wont even exist post-recode
ebon tiger
@barren zephyr i'm not sure, since the sounds could be replicated easily (most are just deer calls and alligator hisses and a Ringwraith).
Telltale is also a defunct company, last i checked, so again, i'm not sure where people would stand on copyright if they directly used the sounds.
also, i'm fairly sure he was suggesting similar sounds, not directly copied ones
barren zephyr
Oh
ebon tiger
the chattering sounds are the ones i can't identify properly. might be an insect, might even be a dolphin chatter that's been heavily edited
slow snow
I think they some sounds similar to the coqui frog from Puerto Rico either for ambience, insects, or maybe even one of the smaller dinos
Kinda like Utah bork
ebon tiger
not sure where the Isle devs got Utah bark from, but the JP Raptor bark is mating tortoises
slow snow
Or if beelzebufo is added it’s be good :p
Coqui frogs are Puerto Rico’s crickets basically
ebon tiger
@ashen elm nice idea about the sonic boom, but the regrowth seems odd. aside from the unrealistic element (regeneration like that is limited to only a few lizards and some amphibians), it also adds some extra work to make it work in-game
ashen elm
@ebon tiger Thank you. I'm aware but it is the Isle, it's not going for complete realism. 🤷♀️ The dinosaurs are mutated to some degree.
I just thought to give it some counter-play incase people felt it was too OP while also providing a unique interaction.
ebon tiger
perhaps an alternative would be the attack on the tail disables it for a while? rather than completely removes it?
it still implies a healing process, without the same level of work
ashen elm
That could work too. Like a limp upper portion of the tail aka tail break.
ebon tiger
aye, like the broken leg effect
the severity of the damage would also probably affect healing time
like a Utah might only disable the whip for a minute, while a Rex could disable it for 5mins or more
ashen elm
Sounds good to me.
Though some dinosaur dropping its tail as free food to escape still sounds appealing to me even if fiction. Though maybe not right for a Diplodocid.
mighty marten
Not sure how people feel about the suggestion I just posted, but down to discuss!
ebon tiger
@strange wave just so you know, that pic doesn't really show what Leaellyna is, not very well, at least
it's got a weird angle to it, making the Leaellyna look squat
maybe add more pics?
that aside, nice idea
empty sigil
@barren peak, I really liked the bird noise suggestions, especially the Saracura, I think something like that possibly with some sort of bird like clicking noises mixed in or for some sounds would be great for the Hypsilophodon. In regards to Dinosauriac's sugestion of insect strigulation like noises, it certainly wouldn't be possible with that feather structure at all IRL, but if the you care less about realism, then it doesn't really matter. Though personally I don't agree with it.
strange wave
found a better picture
ebon tiger
nice
barren peak
@empty sigil Im glad you liked it! For the clicking noises you can search for Inhambu Chororó. I think you may like it
empty sigil
lol, thanks
cobalt compass
@loud vine nice idea, but imagine you play a herb and i play an carni and you could hear me in local voice... you would shit you pants if you try to examine whats that noise, than you hear a dilocall in local thinking "hah, just a tiny dilo" but acually its just my impression of it and stomping out of the woods as a rex
though absolutly hilarious, but also ppl would spam the chat with music and nonsense
loud vine
Yeah, but I mean if you're a carni you'd only hear various f calls from herbies with the voice chats, etc
cobalt compass
so you mean, when activating my ptt, it'll play the generic F-call?🤔
that would be nice either
in addition: when there's a guy who doesnt know when to shut up, you mute him and than just hear from him the f call
think that would be a cool feature
fair citrus
What do you think about clicking noises for Troodon?
indigo sun
@dense shuttle those arent the actual swim speeds, it's all just testing. They're likely going to change speeds when they actually implement stuff
dense shuttle
ah
amber umbra
I was wondering if we will still have different patterns through our growth since it’s changed and if they will fix the young males having detail color. Always struck me as odd. But love the change otherwise.
indigo sun
@empty dove i think one of the things seamoess growth is doing is specifically stopping peoole from staying at a certain growth. Sub rex is not something you are supposed to "main." If you don't want to grow a full rex then play a mid tier.
If you want something close to sub rex then wait for alberto to get those "touch-ups" kissen mentioned
empty dove
Maybe, but I’ve just been thinking from a server I tend to play on. They don’t allow a Rex for normal players but you can grow to full sub as a “daspletosaurus”
indigo sun
Ehh no thats not a good reason to allow people to stop growing
empty dove
Maybe
indigo sun
Animals dont suddenly stop growing because they want to
amber umbra
I don’t mind the seamless growth, I’m just confused and concerned over certain parts of it.
indigo sun
Or people could just mod it in when the dev kit comes
amber umbra
Lol that works
indigo sun
All it means is you grow from juvi to adult more smoothly and without the sudden stat jumps and button pressing, silvius
amber umbra
Im fine and knowing of that. It’s the skins that bother me.
They don’t change color pattern and baby males have bright detail colors only courting adults would need.
indigo sun
They might change that when its actually done. Theyre just using the default skin right now for most of em
amber umbra
I hope so, cause I’m hyped for change. XD
How will we know if we are 100% adult though?
indigo sun
You can just check the character thing
Might look a bit different but i imagine it'll still have the growth percentage on it
amber umbra
Okay that’s perfectly fine then. What you most excited for?
indigo sun
Growing on the new map for the first time
amber umbra
What do you plan to go as?
indigo sun
Hypsi or para depending on what's in at the time
amber umbra
I want to do them all XD.
I’ve heard rumors about server size changing?
indigo sun
We dont know for sure what's happening with server slots
outer nebula
I suggest you guys wait before making any assumption because the game as we know it will change alot
amber umbra
I hope they don’t change it so drastically that you can’t find a mate of the same species
I’ll try to not make too many assumptions XD
indigo sun
@real isle a while ago it was planned to have deino grow to twice the average adult size.
indigo sun
I did say "a while ago"
real isle
outer nebula
for now just assume the deino comes to the ankles of the rex
valid flower
@real isle This is a game, not real-life, therefore having something like this is difficult to put in the game especially with balance reasons.
indigo sun
The 2.0 deino was intended to take incredibly long to get to, by then most of them would have died off. If they plan to still go this route this would be plenty to keep people from getting there easily
real isle
you'll need to survive for like 100 hours straight to get GIANTTT
2.8 deino would be nice
indigo sun
There should be a limit to it
outer nebula
the limit is 1.0
real isle
make deino limit 2.0
outer nebula
they're plan might have changed since their first idea
real isle
A 1. can kill any carnivore
outer nebula
it can kill any dinosaur anyway it swims
outer nebula
@barren zephyr that would take away key mechanics that help dinosaurs get away. ambush is not only helps small carnivores get food but to survive
real isle
also
carnivores are oppurtinistic
in real life if lions are feasting
and theres an unsuspecting prey item close
they will kill it if they can
all carnivores will get extra food if they can
barren zephyr
@outer nebula I knew someone would eventually mention that. The ambush, to my understanding, were never meant to help carnivores escape but to hunt. That’s why herbivores don’t have ambush
outer nebula
yup
night mountain
Lmao imagine that a carnivore kills a herd member and the whole herd just turns around and kills the carni because they know it can’t fight well anymore.
outer nebula
but it also helps get away from larger carnivores
barren zephyr
@real isle of course you can still kill stuff. You just don’t have ambush
real isle
then all the zebras are like "Hol up"
and kick the shit out the lion
@barren zephyr thats dumb
u can still hunt if u are not hungry and it be realistic
night mountain
Ok but we’re talking players here
indigo sun
The devs dont really have rules against kfs on officials so i cant imagine they really give a shit about that
barren zephyr
But for god sake. Then it’s not really hunting for food. Only to kill
night mountain
Herbs will still kos shit because it’s the fun and correct thing to do
real isle
u cant force peopel to be realistic and expect them
indigo sun
Just play on a server with rules against it
outer nebula
@barren zephyr also if you base the idea of KFS on non-official servers. the devs base the game on official servers and KFS is fine because on official you dont know when your next meal is
real isle
exactly
barren zephyr
LISTEN UP NOW!! I feel like you all have misunderstood me. I’m not saying in anyway kfs should go away from the game. Anyone is free to do it but players won’t be fucking rewarded for doing it. Btw, don’t you all see kfs has kinda been an issue enough as it is. Why in the hell did they ever think of the affinity system them? Think before you say stuff
real isle
LOL
indigo sun
What???
outer nebula
im just saying, if people are dumb enough to stay around a full adult rex when it already killed someone near you thats the players fault not the rex so dont punish the rex for playing the game
barren zephyr
It’s not to stop kos for the love of god if you think so
meager thunder
if you don't like sport killing, try out some of the several realism servers being hosted, then you'll see that "hunting rules" are actually a huge pain in the ass
meager thunder
stay on that body or else herbivore players will go "REEEE" and run to the admins
barren zephyr
Yep... you all have definitely miss understood me
real isle
no we havent
meager thunder
i'm allowed to crack a joke or two, even if you don't think it's funny lol
real isle
u think if ur hunger is above a certain amount
night mountain
real isle
that u cant crouch or sniff
answer this @barren zephyr
ur a mother rex
ur fine on food
ur 2 babies are starving to death
but oh no!
u cant hunt properly because u cant crouch now!!
how are u supposed to feed other people in ur group if ur the strongest one and food provider
night mountain
Get a speed and damage buff at 100% food since you’re full and happy
barren zephyr
Well that is why I wanted to discuss it all. So I could improve it
inland osprey
Limited ability's can't fight back so those that can use such can just gank you cause you can't properly defend yourself
real isle
no one likes it
outer nebula
Boggy
meager thunder
i get what bolg is tryna say, but i don't think a hunting restriction could be placed on a multiplayer game. Wolfquest AE has a hunger system where your damage lessens if you're full, but increases slightly while you get hungry. The only reason this works though is because the elk you're hunting won't actually try to "hunt you back" also, the only carnivores that are larger than you mostly just steal your kills instead of purposely trying to hunt you. Everyone knows how pissy everyone would get if two rexes tried to fight, but one had an advantage because it was a little hungrier than the other.
coughs out lungs
also, Wolfquest AE is 99.9% AI, so lmao
cyan flame
Limiting your "power" is not a good idea, making wasteful behaviour punishing is better. Why Watt had an interesting document on that, to make people actually care about how and when to do something.
barren zephyr
@meager thunder Thank you. Now I know at least the issue with it and how I could improve it
barren zephyr
You have been.
indigo sun
Removed theri?
meager thunder
i don't think everything is final, bog
indigo sun
Theri was never in survival to be removed in the first place
meager thunder
the theri could very well get a remodel and be put back into game
real isle
it needs to be slow
outer nebula
there is a theri coming to survival tho
real isle
in sandbox rn
theris outrun MOST carnivores
or are atleast fast enoguh to hit their tail whilst chasing them
outer nebula
Beipoasuaurs
meager thunder
the theri's speed makes up for its wide turn radius, and the sandbox version of the dinosaur isn't final'
everything is going to change
marble cove
if its something youre scared to hunt, maybe dont hunt it 
meager thunder
don't mess with the tickle chicken lmao
outer nebula
Okay one do not base the game on present stats everything is changing
real isle
red..
outer nebula
thats pretty much it XD
night mountain
Good
marble cove
rules servers
night mountain
Killing rexes is a public service
marble cove
it truly is
night mountain
Do it always by any means necessary
outer nebula
you do realize theri can be easily killed by a rex
real isle
not if the theri bleeds it
outer nebula
theri doesnt have bleed
meager thunder
^
outer nebula
it blunt force
marble cove
if youre a rex and die to a theri you have a smooth brain
real isle
then its hits are very powerful for some reason
its hits werent that strong
just sharp
meager thunder
bog, when was the last time you played the game? lol
cyan flame
Yeah, the theri hitbox/damage is very unbalanced
outer nebula
its mostly the 3 swipe attack that kills them
inland osprey
3-4 theri attacks everything dies... O.o;
ionic comet
Theri can only really kill a rex on non-alt turn servers
real isle
im on non alt turn
outer nebula
but you have to be hit by all three
night mountain
Or if you know how to multi hit with it
real isle
these 2 boutta die then
real isle
it is
meager thunder
the shant can two hit KO a camara
ionic comet
Theri is pretty op
ionic comet
it destroys all mid-tiers
meager thunder
their already has bad HP
ionic comet
and can catch them
meager thunder
theri*
marble cove
if it was a carnivore would you be complaining
meager thunder
wasn't the theri an omni?
marble cove
yes but on the isle its herbi
meager thunder
if theri was to be put on an omnivore diet, i'm sure don would find a way to limit their carnivore habits
marble cove
ye
meager thunder
or more of a last minute thing for if its getting desperate
marble cove
"oh, a utah attacked me and i killed it.. lemme eat it so my herd can eat the plants"
meager thunder
during a drought or something
marble cove
this game will never be realistic
real isle
where the hell are the giga bellows and hisses
marble cove
stego and rex never wouldve met irl
meager thunder
how do you call something unrealistic if you've never seen a living breathing giga
or heard one
real isle
because science
indigo sun
Boggy doggy,
meager thunder
dinosaur calls are only theories i'm pretty sure
marble cove
indigo sun
I'm not trying to be funny.
meager thunder
scientists still debate if the rex made closed mouth vocalization or not
marble cove
the devs even said they want artistic freedom
meager thunder
honestly, bog
i'd like to see you create a dinosaur's calls by mashing together a bunch of animal sounds
indigo sun
Because this game isnt your uwu perfect paleontology game and dinosauriac is creative with the sounds he makes
meager thunder
see what you could come up with
real isle
im not a sound designer im a scripter
marble cove
the rex in the isle is barely even a rex to begin with, its more movie-monster than anything
indigo sun
Dont ask for realism in a game with genetic freaks
marble cove
the game is going to be a sci-fi horror game
meager thunder
yes, i'm excited for it too
marble cove
same
indigo sun
It makes you look kinda dumb
meager thunder
i'm excited for the gore tbh
indigo sun
Im excited as well
marble cove
playing realism is kind of boring bc its hard to emulate and, well, its realism
real isle
ew sci fi
meager thunder
i enjoy realism if i'm in a mood for it, but i mostly like no rules servers
inland osprey
realism you die game uninstalls and will never reinstall... realism~
real isle
i dont like human stuff
cobalt compass
maybe gorepile dismemberment when feeding would be really grue/awesome
real isle
if humans were added and werent that good id be ok with it
meager thunder
you should play ARK and mod it to play as their dinosaurs, bog
real isle
ark lol
marble cove
i mean ark is heavily sci fi tbf
marble cove
its both in the game
real isle
LOL
marble cove
but its not supposed to be realistic
meager thunder
i'm not sure if The Isle is supposed to be 100% realistic either
outer nebula
no
marble cove
arguing for realism doesnt make you look smart
especially not in a game that isnt supposed to be realistic
real isle
why are people exited for the utah pounce and mauling
a roblox game literally had the same mechanic all the way back in 2017 with lion mauling
marble cove
because it adds dynamic to the game
real isle
hey
outer nebula
@real isle if you have issues with another person on a server take it with the admins do not post screen shots of private conversations here
marble cove
this game is still early access
meager thunder
i hope you know that the devs could've just left The Isle in its extremely broken state, but instead, they're deciding to remake their ENTIRE game for us
marble cove
im 90% sure this person is a troll or some kind of self-absorbed narcissist
meager thunder
AND release it as an update rather than a whole new game
real isle
how am i a troll
night mountain
Lmao that screenshot
real isle
ws recode vs isle recode what better
i think ws worse models but will be better gameplay
marble cove
youre acting "high and mighty" by dissing things people are excited for for no reason, without being reasonably constructive
mighty girder
tf are you on about
meager thunder
imagine comparing a game that costs thousands to make to a roblox game that's being made by a college student
real isle
Wild Savannah
meager thunder
yes, i know what wild savannah is
mighty girder
why are you talking about another game in a suggestion channel for the isle
real isle
dude the models are alright for a free game dont bully him 😦
marble cove
that game is super buggy
meager thunder
because bog has his head on backwards
real isle
its made by 1 guy dude
marble cove
so?
ionic comet
Your comparison is flawed
meager thunder
ok
marble cove
wild savannah isnt even finished and is incredibly buggy, even more so than the isle
mighty girder
#401510382981742593 much??
meager thunder
time to type another wall
outer nebula
if you guys are going to talk about another game go to #401510382981742593
real isle
ok
empty dove
you can't compare a game that has code already built into it to help the dev to a game like The Isle
Also, I'm assuming we're talking about this suggestion:
empty dove
If so, I don't think that'd be easy to actually model
k
and then Ima guess it got off topic
empty dove
oh
outer nebula
but yeah the idea for seems too aesthetic focused then game play forcused
meager thunder
hi i'm back
brushes hands
imagine a deino being able to grow to as big as Thenyaw's great lake lmao
outer nebula
that be too big it be both physically and biologically impossible
outer nebula
animals still have a set limit when growing even reptiles
cobalt compass
than why not let it grow for 48h to reach maximum size?
add 3m and boom, all happy
outer nebula
i dont think thats the plan for deino anymore
empty dove
I think deino went from a hypo killer to more of just an apex killer
cobalt compass
aye
barren zephyr
I am a little scared of deino being in the game
It can now go into the same rivers that sucho can be using for fishing?
Is sucho just not safe now?
cobalt compass
but i still would not have any issues with deino grow 3m bigger and take maybe 2d to finish
think it is for nothing safer in any bodies of water now^^
sonic cloud
@barren zephyr if a deino comes along a sucho can just leave the area and find a new water source.
If a sucho is cornered on land by an apex and can’t go into the water because a deino is there, that’s no different to an Allo being cornered by a rex from one direction and cornered by a giga from another direction.
You can only solve that sort of situation by making deino/rex/giga rare as fuck compared to sucho, Allo and other mids
outer nebula
okay sucho is not an aquatic creature its life style is like that of cranes and king fishers their job is to stay near water ways and fish not to swim
cobalt compass
im also fine with grow times 12h+ for apex'
you want to be ontop of the foodchain, np earn this position
outer nebula
actually they did have it for 7 hours to grow an apex it was to long and very little people played them. 6 hours and 20 minutes is fine long as they make it harder to grow
your just lucky apex dont take 3 hours to grow like they used to
cobalt compass
i barley play on official server, is there some kind of ruleset that forbids juvi kills?
indigo sun
Are you asking about official rules or private servers rules
cobalt compass
ruleset on offical, cant enjoy them 'cause of my bad latency, either us nor eu
cobalt compass
ok but my intension stay the same, kill it before it can kill you
just w/o spawnkilling
outer nebula
also followinbg juvies off the beach is frowned on
cobalt compass
i agree, but the constant whining about juvi kills is just ridiculous
outer nebula
its a survival game if you die its your fault
cobalt compass
most times, yes
barren zephyr
Kingfishers swim.
night mountain
Komodos have venom.
Dinosaur venom would almost definitely work like komodos or hills where it was just their saliva and in any given bite. They didn’t have the setup really to consciously inject it like snakes.
indigo sun
@barren zephyr not a suggestion and as far as we know there are no current plans to bring the isle to console. It takes a lot of work and i imagine they'd like a finished product before they do that
pulsar lake
@restive summit i already shared it but that's good if it's reposted again.
restive summit
Oh np! Ty 💕
barren zephyr
Willyes jeep and M35A2 transporter. please.
mighty marten
So what are peoples opinions about my suggestion with the apex's? Giga being a night hunter. Rex being the same kind of brawler on land while Spino is the acquatici territory monster where it can fight a rex 1 v 1 when its near water?
indigo sun
Giga doesnt need to hunt at night, rex is fine, and spino should be able to go wherever the shit it wants and do well enough tp survive against fellow apexes but have the advantage in water. Those arms are built for slapping and a rex wont want to deal with them anywhere
covert birch
nothing should get incremental boosts just cause its near a specific location
mighty marten
Why shouldn't Giga be able to hunt at night exactly? It'll give it a proper niche. Rex is fine as i said... and I rather Spino be weak when caught outside of its territory near water and then super strong when near water.
Why not Blue? It would give Spino a niche for itself.
covert birch
Cuz they plan to let people do whatever they want with spino
indigo sun
Giga's niche is endurance bleeder
mighty marten
Yea, I dont see that blue. I dont see Dondi making Rex have a competitor.
That niche doesn't actually exist.
Bleed doesn't work like that
not for giga at least
Giga is better off just brawling like the rex at this time
covert birch
Also dondis words not mine bout spino "good at both master at neither"
When it came to land/water
indigo sun
Bleed will drain stamima post-recode so if giga keeps the prey on its feet theyre fucked
indigo sun
Yep.
mighty marten
but bleed should do more damage if you're a big dinosaur
Bleed, as it is, doesn't do much damage
at least on the gigas side
covert birch
Bleed aint gonna be doing damage really. Its just gonna drain stam which when it fully drains stam insta kills ya
mighty marten
@covert birch IIRC Dondi wants Spino to just be a defensive dinosaur, so unable to actually hunt anything, so Rex will just once again be unstoppable
And I dont think they are going to have dinosaurs instant die when stamina is drained
indigo sun
When bleed covers your whole stam thing you'll fall asleep and never wake up
covert birch
also spino is more defensive on land offensive in water
From what they seemed to have been sayin
mighty marten
Which again, translates to, Rex has no counter.
A rex is not going to be in the water
I dont see a Giga countering a rex
covert birch
Rex will be fine apex-wise when bb changes
youll actually have to bite the leg
And with collision thatll be tough
since ya cant just run through stuff
mighty marten
I dont like the fact they are making Spinosaurus weak as it seems. Thats all.
indigo sun
Spino wont be weak..
mighty marten
Defensive on land translates to, cant hunt a damn thing
mighty marten
Which again, translates to, weak apex
covert birch
Acro and smaller
It kills easily
also this aint a big apex death match game
no apex should want to fight another apex
mighty marten
Yea... you haven't played this game enough it seems xD
mighty marten
I dont really think that'll change how people view the game
They want to hunt for a challenge
indigo sun
not even gonna have apexes in the recode
mighty marten
not just kill utah raptors
mighty marten
They aren't even gonna have the Cerato afaik
So like... I aint even gonna play
lol
covert birch
Thats your loss then
mighty marten
Not interested in playing a Utah in the recode. I wanna play my Cerato and Spoony and Giga.
indigo sun
Cool you can not play and i'll be enjoying a game free of those fatass apexes who ruined the game for a good while
mighty marten
I mean, Utah ruined the game pretty good too
Still does in fact.
And with the new pounce, I see it ruining it eve more
indigo sun
How does utah ruin the game??
covert birch
And even when apexs come in. Itll be much harder to grow -> less apexs -> less apex fight club
Also utah dont ruin the game rn unless ya play no alt turn
Otherwise its pretty fine
mighty marten
Instant turn on a dime looks silly
indigo sun
You'll have to deal with it anywah
covert birch
They animating it
indigo sun
Sucks
barren zephyr
mighty marten
Well yea, Dondi loves his rex
He doesn't like his rex being hunted
Its the only reason
covert birch
?
indigo sun
Oh okay youre one of those people. So you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Cool, that was a waste of conversation
ebon tiger
turning on a dime isn't unreasonable, tbh. a few animals irl can do it. i've seen a rhino spin right around in a fight
mighty marten
The way its animated in the current game is completely unrealistic gothic
covert birch
They are animating it
barren zephyr
covert birch
Simple solutiobn
ebon tiger
so the animation needs work?
barren zephyr
ebon tiger
doesn't make alt-turn being forced a bad thing
barren zephyr
animals can turn on a dim irl
mighty marten
Thats not turning on a dime.
Thats not as fast as it is in game
Its an INSANT turn
covert birch
They will prolly slow it down
mighty marten
Instant*
covert birch
if thats your issue
barren zephyr
elephants can turn in one place even 
mighty marten
Again, turning in one place isn't the problem. Its the speed.
covert birch
I need to search for that old acro alt turn animation gif
indigo sun
Should i get the trike video?
mighty marten
The way Cerato and Utah can turn, is quite good and makes sense to me.
indigo sun
I can get the trike alt turn video
mighty marten
The way Alt turn is right now, is not
indigo sun
ebon tiger
when rhinos do it, they plant a forefoot and swing their whole body around. sure, it's not literally "turning on a dime", but it's the closest you get
indigo sun
K then dont complain about alt turn now because it'll be like that for everything
Except different speeds obviouspy
mighty marten
I can complain all I want if the game isn't up to proper balancing within the tiers and that smaller dinos cant actually hunt bigger ones in a pack.
Im hoping Utah pounce groups will hunt rex's
barren zephyr
slowed gif but you get the point. besides that.
realism is not as important as balance
mighty marten
Though the way pounce is right now, you cant aim it up high
covert birch
Current game balance doesnt matter shrek
mighty marten
It does matter as it is a baseline for what the DEVS like.
Leopards dont change their spots
indigo sun
Eh no actually like, everything combat wise is changing
mighty marten
So they say
indigo sun
So trying to balance based on current game is a dumb idea
mighty marten
but they haven't actually released anything to cement that
They released new mechanics
but not actually any gameplay
covert birch
Collision cements that
mighty marten
So its only speculation
covert birch
What the devs directly tell us isnt speculation
mighty marten
Im sorry, but hte devs are the reason rex is currently as broken at it is. Leopards do not change their spots.
covert birch
So your only issue is rex?
mighty marten
Hmmm...
barren zephyr
rex rn is actually the least broken but ok
mighty marten
Bone break=GG
covert birch
So 2 things
mighty marten
Rex is the only thing with Bone braek so I just make them one and the same
covert birch
Locational damage will stop rex from biting someones tail and breaking their legs
barren zephyr
bb is getting reworked. doesnt mean rex is broken
covert birch
And also collision will stop rex running through stuff and being immune to being chased
For example a rex will run into a trike, get stuck and die
mighty marten
They are one and the same. Rex is overplayed right now because it is broken because of the bone break.
covert birch
Rex is overplayed rn b/c its super easy to grow
barren zephyr
did you even consider what would even change post recode . ... and just wait and see?
covert birch
Ya sit in a bush and eat ai
ebon tiger
tbh i don't see too many Rexes, as they get trashed by Gigas a lot
mighty marten
Its as easy to grow as any other apex
barren zephyr
i see too many allos currently 
mighty marten
If you dont complain and bring up things, they wont fix it right the first time
and you'll have to complain when it comes out wrong
Rather they do it right the first time
barren zephyr
yea sure mate
mighty marten
@ebon tiger I dont see many Gigas on my server. I see mostly rex's, then gigas and then spoons.
All rex needs is a bone break and they'll get he first bite
So u pto RNG
If it gets bone break, night night giga
barren zephyr
dont fight against it then?
mighty marten
Then why not balance it?
covert birch
Shrek stop taking this game as a fightclub and see it as actual survival
mighty marten
Yea.... no.
covert birch
Well then your playing the game wrong
mighty marten
The game is a fight club becasue its up to the player to determine it
barren zephyr
it is the most balanced. its so slow u literally van just leave
mighty marten
^ nope
barren zephyr
then youre a pepega
mighty marten
You obviously need to start playing on the server I play on. its a fight club and rex dominates
ebon tiger
from what i gather from my own experiences and what i've heard elsewhere, seems it varied heavily from server-to-server. some have more Rex, some have more Giga, others are all Allo
covert birch
Shrek also the games balance is really based on official servers
ebon tiger
honestly, the game isn't meant to be a fightclub, and anyone who treats it as one is part of the problem then
covert birch
alt turn servers in genral
Are what its based on
And since ya dont play on a alt turn activated server. That is part of the problem
mighty marten
If a game has multiplayer, its going to have PvP and its going to be a fight club.
Thats how pvP games work
Look at Rust
Survival game and heavy PvP
Dont include multiplayer if you aren't going to balance around the pvP aspect
covert birch
This game is pvpve
ebon tiger
Isle isn't a PvP game though. at most it's PvPvE. it's a survival game, not a deathmatch.
sure, you can kill players, but that's not the main aim
covert birch
It aint gonna be heavy pvp for 2 reasons. 1: Devs said they want less players per map. 2: Dinos will be harder to grow makin less people wanna risk their dinos
ebon tiger
plus more food sources, so fewer reasons for players to fight
covert birch
multiple devs stated they would rather have less players and more ai
mighty marten
Thats not how humans work. Humans have always been compeittive
covert birch
And form an actual ecosystem
mighty marten
Its going to be still a death match
just... less chance of it
and that'll end up killing the game. Alot of the big servers, and youtuber content makers are going to stop playin the Isle
dondi better rethink that lmao
Kill off your revenue and you're game disappears eventually
@ebon tiger Again, all the other survival games are just like that... but still people force it to be PvP
People go out their way tomake it PvP
ebon tiger
honestly, i'm actually thankful that we're getting these changes, because i'm tired of folks like you
covert birch
^
mighty marten
lmao
covert birch
This game aint meant for deathmatch apexs
Dondi himself said it
Ill search for the clip
mighty marten
And dondi will find his game go off into the night, not with a bang but with a whimper
covert birch
well then well see
Ya really underestimate how many people want an actual survival game
instead of big boi dm
covert birch
Just cuz they have pvp. Doesnt mean this game gonna be only dm
mighty marten
They have it balanced properly. Alot of PvP and alot of Survival
They have filled out for both players
ebon tiger
i recall one dev actually saying that the team don't like how people play the game, because it's never been meant to be a deathmatch, yet despite that, people insist on trying to be mindless killing machines who then complain when they get killed
mighty marten
not just the AI hunting simulator
covert birch
what gothic said
covert birch
well then those people gonna stop playin
mighty marten
and then the game will die... lol
mighty marten
Might as well make this a single player game then if Multiplayer just going to be a back seat
why waste money on MP if you're not actually going to do something with it properly
ebon tiger
Shrek, i know all too well how people work. hell, people do that shit IRL, and i've survived it for fucking years
mighty marten
Yes, because thats how most humans are
ebon tiger
and yet, people like that are actually a minority
mighty marten
Theres no reason for this game to have multiplayer if the intention was to make it a AI hunting simulator, which is fine
Obviosly not
ebon tiger
a loud, hostile and toxic minority
mighty marten
I think you're more in the minority Gothic, and alot more vocal than me about it. You're also alot more toxic, slinging the word toxic towards me
vestal rune
are you complaining about the current balance of the game?
mighty marten
The complaints have went everywhere merch
From where the games direction is headed, to how the game is going to survive when the game completly shifts in what it is right now
etc
vestal rune
completely shifts?
covert birch
he is complainin bout how the game isnt being catered to those who want a deathmatch
mighty marten
As it is, the game is a survival game with alot of PvP like Rust or Dayz.
People are saying that the devs want the game to be an AI Hunting simulator with very little MP aspect
covert birch
he wants a complete death brawl instead of the survival horror it should be
vestal rune
well they aren't the devs
fairly sure AI are just there to make opportunities more regular
mighty marten
Not according to what thy say the devs said.
vestal rune
it's no fun dieing just because no one happens to be in your general area
well I'd like to see what they said
mighty marten
Yep. so larger maps suffer the most still
covert birch
Well the devs had said they want more difficult ai, More ai per server, less players in server
Speaking of larger maps
Did yall see new hope map
updated one*
mighty marten
Thenyaw is still my favorite map just because its large enough that you can go a while without seeing another dinosaur, but not too long like on v3
covert birch
Extra island
mighty marten
My server currently has a cap of 150 on Thenyaw and 200 on V3.
covert birch
Thenya is great cuz no gamma
vestal rune
ye
ebon tiger
i like how i'm considered a minority for not being a murderous asshole, and toxic for using the word "toxic" to describe murderous assholes
mighty marten
Merch, on v3. I was a rex and traveled from Nothernmost point to Hidden lake in an hour. Only saw 1 allo and 1 juvi cerato and 1 AI.
vestal rune
thenyaw is good, but very easy to survive
mighty marten
Im like.... holy crap. Its a barren wasteland
covert birch
Yea v3 just has hotspots
vestal rune
yeah V3 has hotspots
covert birch
Just got to twins, and gf
vestal rune
hopefully AI will fix that
vestal rune
kinda the point of AI
covert birch
Then theyll be great
mighty marten
@ebon tiger You are the only one calling me names. Ive not once caalled you a name.
vestal rune
since AI doesn't care what looks cool or whatever
oh and the game will also in the future encourage movement
for players
covert birch
I just know foz said you will fear his ai
vestal rune
I am positive that you encountered like 7 people in that time, but you didn't see them because they were all hiding in a bush
covert birch
and nothin else
viral creek
Granted, if you don't like the playercount of the official servers, there are also unofficials.
mighty marten
But the unoffiical servers wont truly be supported