Ew no
#general-feedback-discussion
covert birch
barren zephyr
irl it would break its wrists but i guess it would look good
covert birch
Bary better
indigo sun
Eh, normal spino isnt as heavy. I dont think it'd need to walk on all fours
mellow maple
Nanotyrannus huh?
covert birch
Also spino walkin on fours would look neat so why not I guess
indigo sun
Hyper spino is incredibly heavy, makes sense that it cant fully support itself
covert birch
But if they dont do it idc
rare bramble
it looks... BEAUTIFUL
barren zephyr
This that back that idea is dumb spinos kuncles wouldn't support the wait
indigo sun
What?
indigo drum
Just deleted it was typin outside
torn thistle
Remember to only chat in here, not in #general-feedback, Spino, G-man and Sols
indigo drum
Didnt see it switch up on me
barren zephyr
Also Nanotyrannus is a Juvi T-rex
indigo sun
It was said nanotyrannus was a juvi rex ages ago, how are people still believing its an actual thing?
indigo drum
Just said. Sorry lol
rare bramble
rawr
barren zephyr
Well fun fact troodon isn't a thing it's another dinosaur
indigo sun
You mean troodons?
barren zephyr
trodoans
indigo drum
Lol
barren zephyr
act your age
rare bramble
why should i >:P
latent cave
@barren zephyr @indigo sun @covert birch the IRL spino, does not have any bearing on the Isle spino, witch will not be changed based on the real spino
barren zephyr
covert birch
Thats why I said it can or cant have 4 legged walk. I wouldn't mind either way
indigo sun
Kitsugami i wasnt talking about irl spino
I never said anything about irl spino
I dont give a fuck about that dumb noodle
latent cave
If they wanted to nothing is stoping th for 4 leg spoon walk
covert birch
Also kitsu bout your flesh grazing suggestion I like the idea bout flesh grazing but there should never be somethin like permanent punishments imo. Unless the thin causing permanent punishments are self inflicted
indigo sun
our spino can hold itself upright. The hyper spino is incredibly heavy, especially because of the extra armor, and thus makes sense to need a quad crouch because it is so incredibly heavy. The normal spino doesnt have all those hundreds of pounds of weight pushing down on its back and would do just fine to hold itself up normally while crouched
I dont see a quad crouch for normal spino as necessary
The animal would be able to support itself
latent cave
@covert birch i offered an alternative for perminant injuries in it
I have seval ways to inplament it with out being exploitable
In game a few hours not that long, when some dinos take 6+ to grow
covert birch
If the alternative when ya say hours would be along the line of acro heal then I still dont think it would be good. Healing should never take longer than an hour imo
Especially with danger AI comim
Who will prolly attacked weakened players
latent cave
Do not use current acro as an example for anything but failure
indigo sun
Taking a few hours to heal is badx regardless of acro
covert birch
I used current acro as the best way to describe extremely long healing times. Which seems to be similar to what ya were suggestion
indigo sun
I dont give a shit about acro
latent cave
Ingame its everyones bitch
indigo sun
Acro does not matter
indigo drum
indigo sun
The thing i take issue with is the long healing
latent cave
It should not take that long to heal as a acro, its not even in game since its not a proper balenced dino
indigo sun
I DONT CARE ABOUT ACRO
indigo sun
Acro does not matter for the third time
covert birch
And how its bad
indigo drum
Can y'all be nice to one another. No need to get all puffy about it.
indigo sun
Healing for so long fucking sucks is the point
covert birch
Long healing is the issue here not acro itself
sage helm
Long healings bad acro or not
potent sparrow
@empty dove you mean the spectator thing?
latent cave
But yes getting wounds from chunks being riped out of you would and should feel like curret acro healing or worse, it should take a long time to heal from such things or else its explotable for infanate food
covert birch
Long healing like that would just ruin gameplay for the hurt player
empty dove
@potent sparrow yes
indigo sun
Okay and did you stop to think about the people who are in no way trying to be exploited and just want to play the game?
covert birch
Only time healing like that should be implemented is when it's their own faultt
potent sparrow
Does it not stop in-game?
indigo drum
Only lord knows what dondi does with Acro. Its being redone. Besides that it's not Viable for any examples just like Theri too long to heal. No one would wanna sit healing for hours. Everyone that I met having to heal long periods of time lose their minds in the mean time
Most would likely die.
indigo sun
At that point honestly just kill the person then cause i'm probably just gonna throw myself off the nearest ledge and regrow rather than wait a bullshit amount of time to heal
slow snow
Imagine having dilos just run across at night to take a chunk and fuck you over for hours
covert birch
People will just try to suicide and ruin peoples gameplay by forcin em to sit for hrs and heal off any damage down with that
There used to be kamikazee dilo packs
indigo drum
Yea to finally stop bleeding to be in 4th screen for another Thousand years only to die to anything that sneezes in you
covert birch
Why wouldnt people use this here
indigo sun
If you know that acro and whatever's healing is bullshit then why the shit would you want it to happen to other dinosaurs too??
latent cave
But the wounds as i also said wounds would euther lower stam in a simular way to new bleed system or max hp, so if you had 5000 hp but were attacked by a giga and lost 500 max hp then got attacked by a cerato and went down to like 2500 you would heal the 2000 eather fast but yoir max hp lowered to 4500 would take time to heal simular to leg break so you gradulynregain your max hp
potent sparrow
Heal time in general should take no longer than the time it takes to heal bone break. The purpose of taking damage is during a fight. If you take too long to heal you're screwed in the next fight
indigo drum
Over all wouldn't be good game play.
slow snow
Medium carnis gonna be the move for trolling
indigo sun
That puts the player at a constant disadvantage while theyre healing
indigo drum
Most would not go or deal with it
indigo drum
Same because gonna die anyways
slow snow
herds are just gonna get hit one after another until they lose so much max health they might as well be dead
covert birch
^
indigo sun
It is not fair to other players to be put at a disadvantage for a super long time while everyone else is fine, kistugami
slow snow
Fast growing Dinos gonna be even worse trolls
latent cave
If flesh grazers could take chunks out of dinos ro eat with out killinh them then they would have an insentive to keep them alive and let them heal and just feed off them forever, like wise a pue could just feed a ton of allosaurids forever
covert birch
Now imagine this
What if the pue was a player
He would feel like shit. Oh i cant kill these guys cuz they too fast or heal the damage they do to me
Ill just suicide
latent cave
.... pues can kill anything ease just by moving
slow snow
yea I mean it’d look cool but the actual mechanic is atrocious
Pue is not the only example
slow snow
trikes boutta get as much max health as dryo
indigo sun
Youre punishing players
Players who did nothing wrong
That is not fair to those players
slow snow
yea just gonna be a troll mechanic
indigo sun
People would just abuse the shit out of that and fuck players over
It has been ten minutes, dude. what are you typing?
latent cave
Having gigas or allos eat half your body weight of four flesh and you just healing that off in under an hour for them to do it again makes no since, but having less stam or max hp for a while is not that bad considering smaller dinos wpuld not even have to worry as if they got hurt that bad they would be dead, and dinos that would survive being partialy eaten alive by allos or giga take hours to grow, if it worked like leg break with ticks that ware off over time, so say an giga takes out a chunk of you and you loose 500 ticks of max hp, you heal the damage and bleed with 500 less max hp and then every few min you regain 10 of your max hp, for larger dinos this would have very little effect unless facing apex, or if you let a few giga eat you, in witch case your probaly die already unless you are something that toom like 4 or 5 hours to grow, in witch case you would heal from having most of yourbody eaten in like 2 hours or so rather then dieing or healing in 10 min like nothing happened
finite elm
I sorta like the idea of grazing but that adds a whole host of problems. It needs to be really well thought out to be implemented properly.
latent cave
@haughty orbit do you know how they hunt saura pods? They are all flesh grazers, idk about allos killing large saurapods rather they just take chunks out to eat ususly not killing it, however acros would follow them over longtimes taking chunk after chunk till they were so badly injured they would die
I do think acro and giga should be able to hunt them but not in such a way where take lessndamge from them but get aim assisted for saurapods to hit them
paper oriole
giga can already hunt camara
latent cave
Cama is simular size as giga, in game talking about large ones
paper oriole
also wouldnt it make their resistance against sauropods redundant if sauropods also dealt more damage to them? best to just leave it to the skill of the player rather than adding stupid species immunity
latent cave
Or aim assist agginst certain species...
Thats even weirder
Giga and arco are already easier to hit cuz their size
hard perch
yall need to condense your suggestions.
latent cave
The other day the admins said its too much work to do vauge ideas and only fleshed out suggestions would be considered
hard perch
haha if they want to do all that reading...
paper oriole
tbh i'd rather not be forced into the godawful looking nightvision we have rather than have it on toggle
haughty orbit
@latent cave I see your point, I’m just being a bit of an optimist as not all ideas are good ones, but not all are bad ones either. I’m just brainstorming for fun, no one has to take these seriously, and I thank you for your input
slow snow
Can we stop with flesh grazing. It’s a terrible mechanic
If it gets implemented I’m never gonna play a large herbi
blazing charm
I mean, it's mostly for Sauropods, isn't it?
If its for other creatures, literally all it is getting dealt with alot of bleed and the Giga gets some food out of it.
Not a big deal to me, personally.
covert birch
Imo flesh grazing could work as a passive instead grapple type ability. Make it so biting sauros gives ya like 2-5% food after ya bite em a certain amount of times or somethin like that. Bigger the sauro the higher the %
But making it so the thing being bitten has to take hours to heal seems like a way to just stop people from playin that dino
slow snow
Having to heal for hours is not fun
Look at stuff like shant or theri
It’s terrible being in a herd and getting injured
finite elm
Maybe as a side note since you guys are discussing it flesh grazing could only work if youre hitting the body and only sometimes. If youre a type of dinosaur with flesh grazing you have a chance of getting a flesh graze instead of a bone break to the ribs.
Or a pounce only works to aiming for the body. Adds a little bit of nuance to combat.
wise knot
Hmmmm. I just found a perfect idea, for Shantungosaurus (Maybe).
valid zephyr
I'd rather the males had larger but more rounded plates, and the females had thinner more pointed ones.
valid zephyr
Or this
similar idea for both.
the male plates would cover more area but just be less pointy
barren zephyr
I do agree with you but as the situation looks like now. We only have 2 options that doesn’t include spiky females
valid zephyr
Yea one seems to be larger and more pointed
rather than larger and rounded
I think the top section of the plates has basically just been cut off for the female model.
barren zephyr
So I’ll definitely prefer my suggestion, only because large plates would suit the males better then females
ebon tiger
that pic is for Hesperosaurus btw, the one with red plates
but it's reasonable to assume something similar went on with other stegosaurs
barren zephyr
Sorry, I’m a slow writer😅
mild token
I see the round one as a female much more, and the pointy one as a male.
I can't really see why it would be the other way.
valid zephyr
females don't look 'softer' in every species
oblique sluice
@mild token Pounce should be a high dmg, high cost skill
mild token
never said that
oblique sluice
Otherwise can be pretty unbalanced
indigo sun
It could very much be the other way around
valid zephyr
the rounded larger plates cover more area and are better for display
than the thin pointed ones
barren zephyr
@valid zephyr Trex would be a species (in my opinion) where the female is larger but not stegosaurus
valid zephyr
I mean size differences arn't being done at all as it's being kept visual only
which imo is a good thing
oblique sluice
^
barren zephyr
@valid zephyr I agree
mild token
@oblique sluice I didn't make my suggestion for nothing, but watching a clip that shows how much stam you lose from a single pounce, and then when holding another dino down.
It need to be fixed somehow to make things better.
oblique sluice
Uh, i know?
valid zephyr
I do think the male should have physically larger plates. I just like the rounded look for them as it provides more surface area for colours.
mild token
If not liking it come up with a better suggestion.
oblique sluice
You talk like if i talked shit about your suggestion
barren zephyr
@valid zephyr yeah I would prefer that as well but if they aren’t gonna fix it. I’m still on my idea
oblique sluice
Pounce should have a pretty high stam cost (can change when things are further and we talk about balance with other creatures)
mild token
Should I add how I'm talking/speaking?
oblique sluice
If pounce had a low cost, or another stam bar
Utah player wouldn't be careful about their general stam use
valid zephyr
yeah if the models stay as is i'd rather the larger pointed plates went to the male stego. I just think the larger ones should be the rounded ones.
oblique sluice
So you have utah running everywhere and pouncing everything without basically any cost
You want to pounce correctly and be a great Utah? Use your stam wisely
covert birch
Pounce should be something you think before using so ya can plan out how much stan ya use. If it had a sep stam bar then itll be too easy
oblique sluice
^
mild token
I wasn't only thinking on utha alone, I thought on Rex and other creators if biting will cost stam.
oblique sluice
We don't know about that
Tbh i doubt it will
Maybe if devs decide to give a grab to rex so it pulls something in the ground dealing high dmg with stam cost
mild token
Right now if a rex use all it's stam it must sit down to get it back, and that's kinda sad.
Standing still is another way to rest.
paper oriole
why do people say utha
oblique sluice
All stats will change with recode, so that will change most likely too
vestal rune
I forgot people say utha
oblique sluice
But i'm fine with rex the way it is now
vestal rune
I'm really glad it's getting a name change
oblique sluice
I doubt the name change is a thing anymore
paper oriole
and why cant i add reaction to his suggestion lol does he have me blocked or something
vestal rune
fairly sure it still is? why would they change their mind
paper oriole
when utah gets a name change all the people calling it utha will call it onva instead
oblique sluice
I don't remember wich dev asked why would it change
Like, 1-2 months ago
i think richard or bryan, but anyway
We know utahraptor barely looks like irl, but a change name would give more problems than fixes
vestal rune
what problems?
oblique sluice
Problems about dinosaurs wich barely looks like their irl counter too
Such like spino, or troodon who doesn't even exist anymore
vestal rune
troodon isn't an issue, in fact it not existing just gives them a free pass to do what they want
and spino has most of the unique traits that make spino, spino, utah doesn't
oblique sluice
Thats true about troodon tho
I mean, i like the fact about some fictional creatures such like Novaraptor and i like the name
Just lacks a bit of consistency with other animals, imo
But its something about i don't really care about
As the joker from above said, ppl will name it onva
paper oriole
Oviraptor has been talked about a lot, I hope Anzu or Citipati (larger than OG oviraptor) makes it in
vestal rune
anzu is certainly big enough
paper oriole
it would be a good dino to fit in the small tier with utah and galli
shell willow
anzu is big enough
rocky iris
to reply to #401481402782056460 @maiden matrix I feel like the round plates are more fitting for female stegos cause soft and motherly. Females don't necessarily need sharp pointy plates like males who would use them as a mating display or threat display. To each their own tho.
maiden matrix
Irl it was the opposite, males had round plates to attract mates while females had sharp ones to defend their young (I believe anyway) @rocky iris
rocky iris
Unless it was an oops it might've been something I never heard of tbh :0
maiden matrix
rocky iris
But idk XD I respect your opinion~ I just think females look cute with it rounded
maiden matrix
Im sure itll look fine either way! I just like accuracy
rocky iris
I don't blame you~
I like the artistic interpretation these guys do with everything
It might be like males had more blood vessels in the plates where females didn't and they might've been able to tell that way, or it was just theoretical guesses who knows
oak marsh
Ay dunno if this was addressed because I can’t read but @rocky iris
Bryan confirmed that it was kept that way because they figured an apex fully crouching would be useless, (since you’re easily seen anyway, especially a spino with its sail) it’s kind of like more of a focused ambush stance :0
rocky iris
Yeah that's why I made the edit XD I'll fix it if my edit sounds confusing.
I wasn't made aware that they were reworking the entire crouch until I heard about it from a friend in DM~
So it made more sense plus after looking at the chat with what Bryan said, I do agree with the crouch looking weird on big dinos xD
oak marsh
Oh no worries ur good, I wondered myself about it but that explanation makes more sense
jade schooner
the ambush would be the run, this movement should be considered a "stalking" position
rocky iris
i agree but they probably wanna keep consistency with animation names to lessen confusion
covert birch
@tender bear personally i feel like diff dinos should have different forms of burrowing. Like for dryo it would keep its current burrwo but be able to connect em, for taco have a burrow that spirals downwards letting it eat roots n stuff, or giving ava a burrow similar to that of warthog. This would give each burrowing dino different uses for the burrows and also strengthen weaker dinos mainly being ava/taco
covert birch
Wait lemme get my suggestion for ya its much more fledged out
tender bear
think it would be cooler and more realistic if it was tighter with more tunnels and length and such
covert birch
It was made for copy pastin into discord so expect lots of ***
But personally i love varied dino unique stuff like burrows instead of everyone do waht they want. Gives more thought into picking what dino ya wanna be
covert birch
Makes taco not have to leave he burrow and die to any carni XD
at least for a while
tender bear
i also think that eating plants should give herbis small amounts of moisture
im sure that will be added
tender bear
because even if u look at modern day animals that is the case
my bearded dragon almost never drinks
he gets all of his moisture from fruits and greens
covert birch
But if they do that they should also force more migration
barren zephyr
mums should be able to pick up hatchlings
covert birch
Filipe said that would be hard to do so i doubt theyll do it for a long time
barren zephyr
lol it's fine, i just need to keep these little utahs away from the big bad dinos
covert birch
@brittle fossil the whole idea is to use your stam intelligently when pouncing something. Know how much to use and when. And not make utah the easiest dino to play
brittle fossil
Understandable but already when you pounce, you have 490 stam left
490-500 something cant remember
covert birch
It gets rid of half of your stam
SO around that yea
liek 500
Either way each bite after uses 100 stam
so if ya do 2 bites that leaves 30% stam left ot escape which is plenty
brittle fossil
I feel like it should have alittle more stam left but fair enough
Because most players will chase you down due to the low stam
covert birch
Which is the idea
brittle fossil
But aye
covert birch
Choose damage or escapability
Pounce imo seems like a good use for a killer move
Instead of use it throughout /start of fight
brittle fossil
Yee, like whenever they have screen 3 and screen 4, you pounce em
covert birch
yep exactly that
languid crown
Those are values to make sure the systems working properly
If they gave infinite Stam they wouldn't know if it cancelled when Stam runs out
These numbers allow quick testing to stop bugs
The numbers are placeholders for when they begin to balance everything
covert birch
It could be that too but since utah seems practically complete after what dondi and bryan said today
It could be its actual stats
so thats more of a wait till recodes out thing
brittle fossil
Yeah
languid crown
Why would they stat it now? They still need to make half the systems such as bleed and how damage is calculated
All the stats are set to 1000 so it's pretty default
covert birch
The systems are copy-pastable based on what they have said previously. Also again we dont know till it actually happens so it can be an either/or
@small delta yes we will, also that aint the place to ask that
covert birch
@cosmic palm rng in stats are always a bad idea imo. Imagine getting nested in and being fucked over cuz ya had bad rng.
Also survival of the fittest should apply to how well a player can do not how well the dino is statwise
cosmic palm
It doesn't need to be so that u cant play without good rng. A smart player should still be able to outplay a player with better stats
covert birch
Even the slightest stat changes can have the huge negative effects. Like for example rex bb rn
THe rng for rex bb with the whole weight system in it makes it a massive pain in the ass.
Also i see this as a way for people to try to minmax their dinos with best possible stats. Or could create balance issues when making the roster.
cosmic palm
I get your point
My issue was that since all the stats are available, if ur a good player and know what u have to do, you'll know that there are very few outcomes from an encounter.
covert birch
Well stats will be changing with recode so everyone gettin fresh slate
cosmic palm
Im sure thatll change
covert birch
Well itll change after time but even then everyone will be able to learn
Plus we aint gonna have another reocde style drought of updates
cosmic palm
Even having the slightest doubt in the back of someone's mind does wonder to a survival game
covert birch
there will be semicommon updates to spice things up
Includin new dinos and all that which can change peckin orders and such
So nothin would stay the same for long imo
cosmic palm
True
paper oriole
If we get varying stats they should be in the players' control. IE a giga who spent a lot of time AFK while growing would end up with worse stats than a giga who grew moving around and hunting. Living off of weak AI and juvies will give you lower stats than hunting larger prey
last adder
@sour folio That would just encourage people to sit in a bush and AFK grow
lofty sundial
dont @ devs chief.
sour folio
@last adder you aren’t gonna stop people from doing it. Since most servers require discord for their rules it is frustrating to lose sound when swapping back and forth when I don’t have a multi monitor setup.
last adder
It would still encourage it though, which is the opposite of what the devs want
covert birch
I feel like that can be added when the devs figure out a solution to afk growin
finite elm
Anyone have some good suggestions to incentivize more people to play Herb? Because these ecosystems be fukt lol
paper oriole
I should write up a google doc on all my crappy herbi ideas maybe some of them are good lol
indigo sun
@wide forge water exploitation wont even exist in a few months
wide forge
Until then, it still matters.
If you're able to be banned for it, put it in the rules until such a time it isn't necessary.
Which I only say because I checked the rules to see if it was okay, didn't see anything about it there, and chilled out in the water as a sucho until there was an in-game mod alert. :V
(I wasn't sure if it was a rule for officials or a Nychta/semireal rule, so I figured it was just a nychta one.)
indigo sun
It's in the message of the day already im pretty sure but i suppose if it's that big of a deal they could change it
wide forge
I can't bring up the motd while I'm playing, I'm pretty sure?
indigo sun
You can see it as soon as you join the server at least and check when you get in the server
I couldve sworn there was some way to bring up the motd but that mightve been another gsme
wide forge
Ah, yeah, I've been in the server for a while.
barren zephyr
Going back to the cyrolophosarus, what if it had infrared night vision to set it apart from other dinos? It would be short range and only lasted for a limited amount of time. That would set the dino apart.
warped harbor
@dark bronze Players getting punished by being smaller than normal by RNG isn't going to be a thing
The closest you'll get is when dinosaurs reach their average size and then start slowly growing to their maximum documented size
vestal rune
@sour folio the problem with that is that it get rids of alot of skill
you can just all dogpile onto a prey item without coordination
sour folio
Thats how it would have been back in real life. Dinos weren't spazzes.
vestal rune
this isn't about real life, this is about gameplay
sour folio
I mean to a degree, maybe a cap on how many can bite at teh same time.
vestal rune
plus in real life dinos likely didn't pack hunt at all
safe galleon
so dinos didn't bite eachother?
vestal rune
ye and that
safe galleon
safe galleon
like merch said (and lets back on topic) it would get rid of skill and be abused
sour folio
Dinos likely didnt kill bite each other in attacking a prey. @safe galleon
sour folio
I'm just looking to introduce more realism. Now that physics will come into play you're going to have issues if people cant bite run through.
safe galleon
so if you bite where your packmate is it wouldn't hurt them?
that would totally be abused
sour folio
Sure, but the bites in the game are not accurate. And it should only apply based on proximity.
safe galleon
also if dinos of the same pack did bite eachother irl they would get hurt
sour folio
So it bites what it closer to you, is what I'm saying.
drowsy wren
ooh okie
safe galleon
and what do you mean with nicknames?
safe galleon
but why not just change your steam name?
drowsy wren
idk maybe some dont want to..?
indigo sun
If you take the time to coordinate with your pack like actual pack animals then you wont be biting each other.
You can minimize the risk on your own.
rocky iris
@dim zodiac "for dont be fix"?
indigo sun
@barren zephyr compy will be ai
simple wren
Anyone talking about the egg stealer yet? 🥚🥚🥚
indigo sun
@eternal skiff i dont mind sleeping as an aesthetic mechanic or something that isn't a huge deal, but I absolutely abhor the idea of sitting in one place increasing growth. It only encourages AFKing which is the opposite of what Dondi wants for this game. At most for sleep there should be faster stamina regeneration but nothing to do with growth for such a mechanic.
eternal skiff
Ye now that i think about it that wouldnt work lol
frosty igloo
Playable AI dinosaurs in survival :
This would make the game more interesting I personally believe that being able to roam the map while being this small creature would be interesting. It would make for fun and chill gameplay and wouldn't be a problem since most people would consider it a bad dinosaur. Now I do realise that they are AI as well as Velociraptors/Compsognathus and Avaceratops. But having one of the AI dinosaurs as playable would be fun. Imagine for example a whole little pack of Velociraptors sprinting through the highgrass running from a Troodon. I personally find this a little thing to consider.
indigo sun
@red monolith this game isnt set 65 million years ago though.. its set in the present day.
red monolith
night mountain
Please I’m begging and howling no more species that are basically identical to current playables
paper oriole
I don't think there should be a hard limit on dino populations, I think natural competition and the challenge of growing (especially for apexes) should naturally limit overpopulations
last meadow
@thorny lynx that's the current animation we have for trike, i'd reccomend judging the new one instead of the one we got currently (or atleast the new juvi run, might be different from new adult one)
thorny lynx
This trike run looks slightly different.
Why would Bryan post a current animation with growth?
It's different. I just checked. But the left leg is still wonky at another frame.
last meadow
bryan posted growth with current animation since iirc he used it to show to kissen that growth doesn't mess with the animation
paper oriole
who ever said rex and speen were becoming AI?
paper oriole
lmfao
just commit die right when you start to become weaker
pathetic
thatd be shit
night mountain
Flying a quetz along and the game decides youre too old and you go blind 
thorny lynx
Oh
last meadow
Aren't all dinos getting the quick/alt turn?
paper oriole
middle of a fight with a pack of dilos, game suddenly decides you shouldn't see them
night mountain
I wonder if they’ll keep realistic croc angles
Like crocs on land can’t do shit if you approach them dead from the front
covert birch
@barren zephyr they are lowering apex overpop by making them not playable recode day one so they can build an ecosystem
https://clips.twitch.tv/ResourcefulBlightedCarrotMikeHogu
barren zephyr
That's not a permanent change. So doesn't resolve anything. But thanks for your input
covert birch
Well if more people try out small dinos and enjoy em. Then theyll want to play it less then big bois
Which overall would lower apex pop.
Not only that but since the reason we have so many apexs is cuz apexs are very easily afk grown and they making afk growing take 2-3x longer than actual growth itll also help it out
barren zephyr
People will play what they want at the end of the day. But yes not allowing apexs in the beginning does make it harder to grow them later. But still not a long term solution. But maybe the reduced afk growing will resolve it enough, who knows
patent spade
yes let my dino that I have been growing or playing for weeks just suddenly get fukt by all manner of bullshit disadvantages just cause a lot of ppl want to play the same dino as me
sounds like a great mechanic
little tendon
im ok with sandbox having 100s of apexes cause...its sandbox. but survival should make growing apexes a pain in the ass so there isint 30 of them killing echother
covert birch
Well with combination of dangerous AI, people being forces to start with smaller dinos day 1 of recode, and nerfed afk growing apexs will be much rarer. Also dont forget how large the new map is so you'll be running into em less to
ancient flower
Hey what do u guys think what for a graphiccard do u need for the nem Hope map??
ebon tiger
@fluid comet i think that vid is of alligators performing a mating call display
lofty sundial
Mating calls are done within the water.
but if that is a mating call, its totally fine to use the noise.
fluid comet
Yeah what trikkel said
Not suggesting mating but only the noise
mystic parcel
@serene jasper #general-feedback isnt the channel to asks questions...its to make suggestions
serene jasper
@mystic parcel i cant add question into Ask a dev .. so where i can place it?
mystic parcel
@serene jasper you can try and ask on #401464048610312195 when the devs are talking in it but dont @ them. heres a smol answer for yer question tho, the new map will probably have less amount of ppl able to play on it than it currently is on v3. of course im not 100% sure and no one will know for sure until the game is out.
barren zephyr
@dense shuttle doesnt pachy 1 shot herra? and.. utah too?
barren zephyr
yeah so... i feel like pachy should do maybe 7-10 bone break on utah
maybe 5ish to cerato and 7 to bary
@dense shuttle
barren zephyr
dense shuttle
ok im not
cyan yew
if im not mistaken they had diffrent patterns and more colors earlier before they removed alot of things^^
barren zephyr
._.
indigo sun
different patterns can be done in the future
indigo sun
more customization and species variation
barren zephyr
and
indigo sun
theres no issue with having some more differences between species
barren zephyr
it should basicly just be sexual dimorphism
cyan yew
to make alot of diffrent dinos running around and all looking the same with some diffrent colors only
barren zephyr
._:
indigo sun
im pretty sure it's even planned to have some extra skins and patterns, it's just fred cant do them right now because he's busy working on the skins for new animals
cyan yew
yes
barren zephyr
yeah but
we will have like 30 animals when the devs are "done" at the last recode patch
so i dont realy think we would need it
cyan yew
u almost know every kind of dino patterns in game noone look very diffrent from eachother and they should
indigo sun
i see absolutely no issue having some inter-species variation. not all animals look exactly the same, and the devs have said theres no issues with making more skins. fred's a god
cyan yew
nice
indigo sun
why are you so against something literally so trivial?
barren zephyr
well
indigo sun
it doesnt change anything, just adds a bit more customization to the game
cyan yew
sounds like u never studied dinosaurs before Daltonius
lilac swallow
Why they would need different calls?
barren zephyr
:l
indigo sun
its not like it's a clone dino or some shit that does nothing different but still costs $7000 to add. it's something that's incredibly easy to do according to dondi
barren zephyr
yeh tru tru
cyan yew
there is tons of diffrents dog species
lilac swallow
Is just painting a dino
barren zephyr
bruh...
indigo sun
fred can easily make different patterns for dinosaurs
barren zephyr
i was fine with the subspecies but i dont realy feel like the same species should have diferent colors
indigo sun
changing stripes to spots and making mottled patterns is not a huge deal. it's incredibly simple
indigo sun
how does it affect your gameplay if someone has a different pattern than you?
barren zephyr
.-.
indigo sun
it's just variation within a species
slow stream
it's actually patterns
cyan yew
for example big pack dinos are often getting bored because all 10-15 of them look the same with diffrent colors only
slow stream
different coloring can allow for many more variation
and maybe even allow for better camoflauge
indigo sun
its not like someone is 10% stronger than you with the different pattern or another person in 20% faster or slower.
patterns are easy to do. they don't actually affect gameplay at all and are a fun customization option. theres no need for new calls if there's literally just different details. and yes, like drakon said, certain patterns can even be better used for camo in different areas
why are you insisting this simple addition is such a huge deal?
barren zephyr
bruh we have gone from subspecies to this
indigo sun
it's literally so easy
indigo sun
different patterns dont mean we need subspecies
indigo sun
the original suggestion was literally only about patterns and some variation in species
cyan yew
sry but it just sounds like ure against everything i say
barren zephyr
uhh i am not
cyan yew
and yes was about colors and patternes
indigo sun
in fact i dont see any mention of subspecies in the conversation until you startedbringing it up
we're not saying there should be subspecies
indigo sun
literally just more customization options
cyan yew
yes they are known as sub species in RL but its not a diffrent kind of animal
indigo sun
okay back to the core of the suggestion: different patterns within a species, like choosing stripes or spots for a utahraptor
cyan yew
but thats wasn't the point the point was getting more colors ( maybe for eyes as well) and patterns and little diffrences like the hair on the heads for more enjoyable costmization
barren zephyr
i liked that idea but i thought it was kinda unnecesary otherwise cool
cyan yew
yes Nines^^
barren zephyr
so alpha do you mean like what p.o.t have done
indigo sun
"unneccessary" is territories and stuff, things that require a lot of effort when it doesnt actually do anything. This is literally just something incredibly simple and easy to add.
indigo sun
animals have different eye colors
barren zephyr
s'not like reptiles or birds does that, in between species i mean
indigo sun
i could see something like what wolfquest has with its sliders that allow you to change the amount of brown/whatever color and darkness/lightness of the color
its not hard to do, and animals do have variation in their eyes
barren zephyr
huh
indigo sun
not every animal has the same eyes
cyan yew
just hope the devs see the point then they are the one that have to make things fascinating after all^^
barren zephyr
doesnt make any sense but honestly now logic have never been in this game
alpha did ya get this idea from p.o.t with the "eye" part of it
indigo sun
actually things like owls and stuff where you can see the iris have variation in their eyes, ranging from darker to lighter shades. its not huge varation but the variation exists
cyan yew
what is p.o.t?
barren zephyr
path of titans
indigo sun
path of titans
cyan yew
don't know what it is
cyan yew
ohh iv only played the isle
barren zephyr
they have a cool spinosaur
and
daspletosaurus
:l
no?
well
the two pictures you showed in sugestions was sexual dimorphism
indigo sun
the two pictures shown were an example of different patterns that could be had
cyan yew
well if we'r done with this discussion no more using this chat
indigo sun
not a single thing was said about sexual dimorphism in that suggestion and that was never the point of showing those pictures
cyan yew
right Nines^^
cyan yew
Dal ure making this suggestion way longer then i have to be
indigo sun
so do you just put faces when you have no idea how to respond? i feel like theres no actual point being made with what you say. youre just trying to say why something isnt a good idea without actually saying anything useful to your argument
species variation exists/
even in eye colors with birds and reptiles
it would be so incredibly easy to add
barren zephyr
yeah but just coleration inbetween the same color
barren zephyr
like diferent shades of yellow or orange
indigo sun
theres still noticeable differences
barren zephyr
shouldnt have completly diferent colours of the eyes
neither about the body
the isle aint realistic thats how ima say it
indigo sun
so you're... using realism as your argument and then going completely against your point by saying the isle isnt realistic?
barren zephyr
there is often 2 sorts of way animals look
cyan yew
if u don't like it just stop arguing with us about it
barren zephyr
either a large diferense between the males and females
indigo sun
i'm pretty sure varied patterns are planned anyway in the future
barren zephyr
or no diferense
cyan yew
i made a suggestion, u don't like it fair enough, then move on
barren zephyr
yeh
indigo sun
"this is how animals look in nature"
"but the isle isnt natural or realistic"
barren zephyr
sure
indigo sun
you have no proper argument at all
barren zephyr
exactly
i said that they were looking like this irl but the isle aint realistic so i dont have a say in that
barren zephyr
yeh
cyan yew
yes done with this disscussion
barren zephyr
yep
indigo sun
@barren zephyr ??
barren zephyr
?
indigo sun
why did you put that in #general-feedback ?
indigo sun
ah alright
rapid star
@cyan yew, it's a good suggestion and it would most likely end up being realistic when many players choose to be camouflaged like the environment they inhabit. Dal literally has no actual argument and just wants to be negative.
barren zephyr
i take offense to that
rapid star
I don't care
cyan yew
thx dragon^^
barren zephyr
sad negative noise
rapid star
In real life, animal coloration is made by adaptation to their situation. Well, we don't have the option to have animals pass alleles through sexual reproduction, so it makes way more sense to give players a large amount of power of coloration.
I think you'll find it will start to look exactly how it would in real life: animals who don't have to fear death will be less likely to be camouflaged perfectly, while animals that have to be able to hide will be camouflaged.
cyan yew
yes that's why we need strong colors as well in RL its used to scare potential predators away or make them think ure poisonous ^^
rapid star
@cyan yew yes, that's a good point too
cyan yew
that why u can see utahs with strong colors for example not strong or big predators but good in packs and use thier sounds and colors to scare and some utahs with neutral colors because of camouflage^^
rapid star
Yeah, that kinda goes back to my original statement too.
cyan yew
sry i use utahs for alot of examples ofc other dinos work the same way but i read alot about the raptors^^
yes and thats a good statement ^^
covert birch
@sly jackal I dont think trike needs some kind of buff especially with locational damage and collision coming.
lofty sundial
@dense shuttle Dont talk in suggestions. discuss here
sly jackal
@covert birch i think that kinda depends what kind of multipliers will be working. Currently a single trike just needs to be facetanked by a rexand then have the rex assride it untill it is dead(if said rex takes a stomp and plays the bleed game, it is not gonna win though) while the giga can quite well bleed one out if it can avoid the stomps, and still get out alive even if it takes a stomp if it trots out of there, and if it can avoid that, the trike is gonna die of bleed way because the giga does, because the giga has a greater bleed and the heal of the trike is just plain bad
covert birch
Collsion will make it so a rex cant just run through a trike
Hell take a few spikes to the face and die to locational
dense shuttle
it also means you cant stop buttering
sly jackal
I really feel the full grown trike, though not capable to hunt those apexes, like it does now, should be a bit more lethal then it is now with its base damage, while i think the stomp mechanic on it feels a bit weird to me
dense shuttle
if you try to butter then you're screwed
covert birch
Also all blaance rn is being changed
dense shuttle
you cant stop being buttered if you add collician
covert birch
No current stats will be the same post recode
dense shuttle
you cant break check so
covert birch
especially with weight damage multipliers thrown out the window
sly jackal
true but even then, actually running past a trike would still be doable with that
luckely indeed
covert birch
If the trike is dumb enough to not use alt turn and keep the rex in its face at all moments
Its the trikes fault
dense shuttle
sadly
dense shuttle
i dislike that idea tbh it makes it less enjoyable
covert birch
Nothing else
dense shuttle
l like it with servers taht disable alt turn
dense shuttle
if pivot wasnt a thing it would give smaller dinos a chance to escape
covert birch
Alt turn forces people to be smart
coarse ore
Alt then is better, you don’t have Dinos riding your ass @dense shuttle
dense shuttle
thats good tho
indigo sun
God stop talking about alt turn you dont have a choice
coarse ore
Bruh
dense shuttle
it requires skill to stop thjem
covert birch
pachy being weak aint an alt turn issue
slow stream
no alt turns only give rise to utahs, dilos, and etc killing rexes
covert birch
^
indigo sun
you have no choice in the matter
slow stream
LITERALLY NO APEX CAN GET THEM OFF
covert birch
What nines said
dense shuttle
its a discussion calm down lol
dense shuttle
i mean pivot idc about it will make my main good
slow stream
say bahbye to sticky utah btw
coarse ore
Lol
covert birch
Sticky and his cult will die off and become the new docktards
slow stream
or any dumbass thinking having to assride dinosaurs takes skills when really it doesn't
sly jackal
i disagree...actually alt turn on the trike works worse then just using the regular turn on the trike
coarse ore
It does kind of
indigo sun
Doesnt matter what does or does not take skill
coarse ore
Some Dinos have god turn radius
sly jackal
then again, if collision is added, i do agree then things do change in that regard
covert birch
Darth when i said that i meant if the trike sees the rex its the trikes fault for letting it get behind it
sly jackal
oh that i agree with
indigo sun
This is like when people try to balance shit based on the current game when everything is changing
sly jackal
but really, currently a trike can not take a facetank against a rex, and just for the rex to take 2 regular hits to the side or one stomp, then for an example bite the leg and cause bonebreak, "all" it then would have to do is to go and assride it
even with collision, i think the stomp should be removed in return for a better base attack
covert birch
They cant update current game until recode is out so they cant affect the current trike
sly jackal
i do how ever then think in return maybe the turn radius should be slightly nerfed, though i am not sure about that
covert birch
So current trike will always be screwed till recode
indigo sun
@dense shuttle bonebreak wont even work the same post-recode
sly jackal
i think bonebreak should be something most dinosaurs have in some regard....either way the "bonebreak chance" idea should be removed i think...i do not like that one at all
more like there maybe still should be some mechanic that calculates the base damage of one dino versus the base health of the other one, and then decides if bonebreak is gonna occur or not
covert birch
Bones should have health
Certain dinos should deal damage to that health
when it reaches 0 its broke
sly jackal
should then go into negative to though
i mean, a slight bonebreak should be faster to heal then like being bitten at the same spot for several times by something huge
covert birch
Nah should stop at 0
sly jackal
it is one of the annoyances i have with bonebreak in general
like either you break something for minutes, either you die or either you are gonna be fine
sly jackal
there should be room for a few intermediates
like, if someone is bitten by an adult rex as giga in the leg, that should heal faster then if you would be bitten by one as a sucho
same for falling just a bit vs almost killing yourself
covert birch
I feel like diff dinos would have diff recovery rates
Instead of diff applications of bb make ya recover differently
This would make people think bout what dino they pick
Or at least be a factor in that
Plus could help people adapt to cetain popular things in the ecosystem that time
sly jackal
oh, but i agree the heal stats should still be different, but on top of that bonebreak damage should come in variables on top of that
sly jackal
different things, and different amounts
covert birch
Like a sucho less then a rex
Yea i agree with ya
The healing bit is wherei lost ya
sly jackal
no, more like, if a full grown giga where to be attacked by a fresh adult rex, and the rex bit the leg...sure that leg should be out of order for a minute, but not much longer
if how ever the same young adult rex where to bite the leg of a sucho, the leg should be out of order a lot longer
and bonebreak damages should also be variable depending on how far a dino falls
sly jackal
as in, if a utah just happened to drop 20 cm further then it could handle, sure it should be hurt, but it should be a lot more hurt if it fell 3 times further down
covert birch
yes that makes sense
But
The whole smaller dino being bone broken by bigger thing
sly jackal
heck, ideally, i think that after a certain level, both legs should be out of order, while the base damage should be near fatal and one should be pretty much at the final screen
sly jackal
they probably wont, but it would be nice if they did
for an example, the heal rate of something fully grown in regards of bonebreak should probably be a tad slower then something of a young adult
i mean, they already do have different variables of healing all troughout this game, even in regards of bonebreak
covert birch
yea diff dinos got diff heals
sly jackal
i am how ever quite sure those variables of bonebreak heal are connected by the basic heal a dino has i guess
covert birch
all healing is based on the dino
and not some complex system
from what i can tell
sly jackal
same....still those variables have to pretty much be in theory be implemented and up and running once...after that it is just a matter of fact of having each dinosaur such variables programmed into their health/heal system
the implementing of all those new dinosaurs with their new animations is kinda more of a choir i think
barren zephyr
@empty dove Yes! Let’s not have a survival game!
That’s the fucking point, you have to hunt often and stuff.
cyan flame
The issue there is more that trikes simply do not give the food you'd think they do, so they're not good targets :p
sage helm
@empty dove look im gonna put it simple if you don't want to kill so much don't play the apex dinosaurs that are meant to kill a lot in order to sustain thenselves
sly jackal
@cyan flame i do agree on this one, a trike corpse honestly should be food for 2 rexes for about 2 ingame days
sly jackal
@zinc fern i think sleeping should be a thing, if only for the fact that i'd love to close my eyes at times and just roll up and lay completely flat, making myself as compact as possible
besides that, i sure healing should be its upside, but as downside, i rather think it would be interesting if the screen when sleeping just went black and there was some camera angle animation of first putting you in first person mode and then closing the eyes/screen going black
heck, would be interesting if from there it was the only option to safelog
to first go trough all that, and then only capable to safelog for real
barren zephyr
well i had an idea for prog
sly jackal
@barren zephyr i like the idea of progression returning and i honestly do not get how people do not seem to grasp easely progression should in fact be the main mode, and not survival
covert birch
@distant goblet @dense shuttle discuss in here
dense shuttle
ya i forgot lol
sly jackal
i mean, sure i was not here when this was the case, but progression when it was implemented just had loads of loopholes and unviable dinosaurs
dense shuttle
survival is better
sly jackal
and that was pretty much all of it problems it had that where unique for it
dense shuttle
you get to pick what you wanna play
sly jackal
if progression actually existed as at least one of 3 main modes(progression, sandbox and survival) this game would simply be played longer already
because getting finally at the final tier of apex sized animals would be much more of a challenge
distant goblet
What happened to progression
sly jackal
currently, great, there are options and all, but it also means that growing apex sized dinosaurs...the access to being able to do that, is really really easy and a lot of people will just not even bother even trying out certain dinosaurs, even if we are at the point that all of them will be balanced
indigo sun
progression died because the devs made the decision to go to a different game mode
they found that best for their own game
sly jackal
if progression was a thing though, i kinda think it should be implemented comparable to how a racing sim like gran turismo 5 works
with several tiers, and within those tiers also lineages in a way
for an example, there are spinosaurus, rex and giganotosaurus related animals found in the fossil record of all kind of sizes, same for armored herbivore dinosaurs and iguanodons/hadrosaurus
indigo sun
you can literally just mod progression in if you want it when the dev kit comes back
the devs moved away from it for a reason, their own reasons that i personally cannot give, but reasons nonetheless
sly jackal
and everything can be implemented if there will be mods...besides the point i think
progression added officially in this game would simply make the game be played longer by its fanbase
indigo sun
point is, progression is dead and the devs dont want to go in that direction anymore clearly
sly jackal
i mean, it should not serve as an excuse to have unbalanced dinosaurs implemented, but still
even if the devs currently think that, is it still not forbidden to disagree with them
indigo sun
im not saying its forbidden to disagree with them
sly jackal
main problem with the current game after all besides balancing issues is after all the fact there are few goals implemented
if progression would be implemented, the endgoal would be to become apex sized
indigo sun
im saying they chose this and it very likely will not change back officially and if people really want progression back they can do it themselves
barren zephyr
its an alt gamemode
sly jackal
it sadly is
well, i just am giving my 2 cents here, i think skipping on a mode of progression that is balanced and without loopholes to get instant access to the more powerful dinosaurs is a bad idea, even worse then the devs not wanting to implement the shant in the final game, since in this case i do not only consider it a waste of resources, but it also will decrease the longlivity of the game by a fair margin
sly jackal
@dense shuttle on hunger, i actually think it should kinda become like bleed, so taking damage would take a long time
still i feel like someone starving should be in some pose so it can be seen they are at their weakest point too
indigo sun
@loud storm no terror birds are not planned.
loud storm
rip they wouldve been cool
still temple
patent spade
@languid crown just let them run their servers into the ground with fucked up populations, official servers are the best servers in the game anyways
pulsar orchid
Plus, how could you make it illegal? People will do things illegally anyways
It's not linked to the game itself, so the devs and owner aren't technically responsible as far as I can tell
thorny lynx
Sorry. Had to bring up Rex teeth again since someone decided to yank Rex's bottom teeth out of his mouth.
teal lava
XD poor babu
thorny lynx
Losing your front bottom teeth means you can't nip at flesh or pick something up with your mouth as efficiently
thorny lynx
Look, I know it is just teeth on a model, but how would you feel if you lost your bottom four teeth
And they didn't ever grow back
slow stream
sad rex time
thorny lynx
It just unsettles me to see nothing but gums on the front of his mouth.
Even if Rex DID lose teeth, they grew back, and there are holes in the jawbones that clearly show where the teeth should be
So it's not like 'aw rex lost a toof he got a hole there'
He doesn't have bottom front teeth and that just... why?
slow stream
Ah-
thorny lynx
Honestly, I feel Rex's jaws as a whole could use some tweaks.
slow stream
Oh how so-
thorny lynx
Bottom front teeth, for one. Shorter snout, flattened lips so Rex doesn't look like a giant puppy
thorny lynx
@visual urchin Negligible? Rex is missing all of his front bottom teeth.
visual urchin
Regarding the thing i accidentally posted in the wrong channel
the model would have to be updated, resulting in all associated maps and topologies requiring adjustments,
lots of editing for a minute negligable detail.
thorny lynx
It's just adding teetb
visual urchin
you dont understand the ammount of work that goes into making an asset such as those seen in this game
it isnt as simple as a model change
thorny lynx
It's sculpting four teeth and then adding textures, right?
indigo sun
nope
you change the model and then youve got to redo lots of shit to go with those changes like dekerrex said above your message of "It's just adding teetb"
visual urchin
materials are complicated. The model would be edited, high poly or the low poly doesnt matter here given teeth are usually sculpted low poly iirc. You then have to make room in the UVW map for those new things, thus changing the unwrap, making all existing maps based on that UV null. Now you have to go into every single map: texture, displacement, normals, shinyness, etc, and add those teeth.
its a lot of time and busy work, equating to more money spent
on a very minute detail few would even notice
thorny lynx
Alright. I'm sorry.
slow stream
hey fluff?
if you're that dedicated to fix the teethers, ya can fix it as a mod post-recode
thorny lynx
I just... don't understand how our Rex's skull was supposedly a replica of Stan's but the teeth are all the wrong shape and size, the snout is too long... and puppy lips.
I wish I knew how to sculpt and do all that. If I could, I would.
slow stream
It might've been inspired by it
thorny lynx
No, Bryan said Rex was modeled after Stan, but...
slow stream
Animals of the isle tend to be different from the irl counterpart
Due to genes being messed around with for the results that's needed
thorny lynx
Rex looks a bit too different. His skull looks so thin and long.
I could go on and on but I would just piss people off, so I will shut up about it.
I'm honestly just disappointed in how our Rex's face looks.
slow stream
Hey! Maybe when a mod comes out for accurate animal designs, ya can get it
viral creek
Why is there another rex teeth complaint
thorny lynx
Because he lost more teeth in the preview video
slow stream
Maybe after the recode
thorny lynx
All of his front bottom teeth are gone
viral creek
🙄
Not worth doing all the work of changing a model
idk if you're a dentist or what but you seem to have a thing for teeth
thorny lynx
I have a thing for the way Rex's entire snout looks and it's not a good thing, but I said I would drop it.
I apologize.
indigo sun
@severe atlas resting shouldnt increase growth. thats my only qualm with your suggestion.
barren zephyr
Fluff... You're always nitpicking
thorny lynx
I said I would drop it. Leave me be about it, please.
wintry cipher
@severe atlas nutrition will be important; theyll be adding preferred diets for each dino, and by eating things you like, you grow faster. which means you have to be active and moving around to get that food to grow faster rather than just hiding in a bush on a full belly (which for a rex will wind up at 18 hours growtime instead of 3 if it was active as an example). that suggestion would actually land you in the longer growth category; so nesting is a lot more relevant now since mothers can hunt the right food for their babies and make them grow super fast.
granite turret
rapid star
@thorny lynx that is beyond nitpicking. Like, holy shit.
thorny lynx
I deleted it.
I've already had several people tell me how I'm nitpicking and how anal of a person I am and I've decided to remain quiet with my opinions from here on out.
I will not be so kind the next time I express the desire to be left alone about this.
night mountain
I’m gonna be the one to mention basically no herbivores irl bring food to their babies.
Exception on birds but that’s only because their babies literally can’t walk.
thorny lynx
Chub babs.
ebon tiger
don't some herbivores regurgitate plant matter?
i know reptiles don't, since they are largely born precocious and instinctively know how to eat and what
also, i just remembered; there's evidence that some dinosaurs did feed their infants
Egg Mountain is a massive nesting site for Maiasaura, and not only are the hatchlings too weak to have gotten out of the nest, but there's also a lot of fossilised plant matter in some of the nests, some of which appears mashed
wooden brook
I want to have an option of the uath,,
like
the regular one like we have a game
and a feathered one
idk
but that'd be so cool
languid crown
gross
barren zephyr
Overall I think it would be a quality of life thing for players in regards to bringing food to nests for their babies, regardless of herbie or carnie. There's always going to be a debate about things being realistic, but I think it'd ultimately be down to the player and their choice for their gameplay.
If someone doesn't want to gather a pile of leaves or snag a few leafy twigs to bring back to the nest, good on them! Teach them juvies to forage their own noms! But for a more nurturing parent, I think it'd make sense for them to have the option to take food to their young.
Since body dragging is going to be a thing for carnies and their prey, I'd like to see an equivalent for herbies and leafy greens, at least~ 😉
barren zephyr
Going back to the cyrolophosarus, what if it had infrared night vision to set it apart from other dinos? It would be short range and only lasted for a limited amount of time. That would set the dino apart.
azure cape
Am I the only person who thinks we need a Smilodon in game?
barren zephyr
Maybe
languid crown
why would they put smilodon ingame?
its a mammal
from the iceage
and you want it in a dinosaur game?
what would it add? Its just a carnivore with a different skin that ruins the theme
nocturne burrow
coulda sworn they were going to add dogs
possibly as a companion for humans. i dunno, it was years ago
imagine, though. all these fantastic prehistoric beasts... and a dog
ebon tiger
@lunar prism omnivores are coming to the game. at least Oviraptor might be one, and i'm not entirely sure about the others
night mountain
Wouldn’t be the first ice age animal 
ebon tiger
?
night mountain
Pela also mammoths were planned at some point idk if that’s still happening
Also why are you stuck sitting next to bodies
Just kos everything it’s fun
twin cedar
I agree with stream's suggestion partially, I think the troodon idle anim should be toned doen a bit, however I don't see an issue with beipi's webbed feet as it doesn't necessarily make it semi-aquatic. It could just be an adsptation for walking on soft surfaces like mud etc.
sharp bramble
But why webbed feet? It's not an animal that would've hung out near the water. Plus the feet aren't like that of waterfowls
night mountain
“. Maybe another semi-aquatic dinosaur such as halzkaraptor as it was closest thing to a duck back then.” There were literal ducks back then too 
twin cedar
It's just a quirky anatomical feature in a game that's not mesnt to be super realistic
rotund panther
This is out off the blue but how will the starve mechanic work?
Similar to the bleed? The stamina drains faster and gets more limited by the times passes depending the activity are made under starvation?
And when the stramina is drained out u will lie down and sleep eternity?
And instead off getting white skin etc, the rips and bones will show more under the starvation?
They have said about the food system but not much about “no food system”
Would this also work as an disease mechanic?
indigo sun
We dont know.
rotund panther
Yepp, but what do u think about it?
Until than we must wait 🥺
Would be cool tho
placid dew
?
barren zephyr
@placid dew you arent allowed to chat in suggestion channel, thats what suggsetion disucssion is for
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indigo sun
@copper epoch what exactly needs to be updated about t rex?
placid dew
stop @ MEE
barren zephyr
placid dew
its so bloody annoying if im literally right here in this chat xD
barren zephyr
i accidently send the wrong thing
Get used to it
chill
People ping all the time
placid dew
ikr
placid dew
not joking thats what my name is for
valid flower
@loud storm that’s a question and not a suggestion
floral sequoia
I have a suggestion for nest buffs, there should be like a big radius around your nest that will enable your buff
indigo sun
This isnt the channel to make suggestions, dude
glad dirge
stoic crow
@lunar prism delete it it’s already planned...
loud storm
@valid flower
thorn wagon
Pretty sure primarily aquatic things like Deino/ spino will have sprint-swim and the like
nocturne burrow
@austere plinth You put a lot of thought into this beelzebufo suggestion. I like it
austere plinth
Thank you! ;>; i want my frawggy boy. i know it may never happen but i will be relentless! =w=
covert birch
@austere plinth the beezle suggestion is great but I would prefer just making beezle poisonous and dangerous to eat for most dinos instead of the sickly thing. Eating it should make the thing eatin it build up poison or something and after reaching a certain amount of poison the thin should die. Also I feel like more dinos should be immune like maybe monolophosarus and spino too?
austere plinth
Like I said most of it was written before new info was out.
Dinosaurs that are already venomous like dilo and troodon can eat it, and select dinosaurs that evolved and live in its environemt can eat it, like spinosaurus.
However I would like to have it be a danger to eat for other apexes, like DEino, Rex and Giga
ebon tiger
The one issue I see with the Beelzebufo, is the size. it'a barely the size of a housecat, so the only dinosaurs it could attack are small hatchlings or Compy
ebon tiger
yes, but what i mean, is the size will severely limit what the frog could attack.
austere plinth
Yes, but the devs are focusin on small dinosaurs at the moment, which means more small sized (featherweights i will refer to them as) animals are both playeable and AI.
ebon tiger
the other ideas are pretty well thought out though
covert birch
Well combat ain't the only part of the game
There are them bugs that float around
It can eat
austere plinth
Thank you, and i appreciate the criticism
There's already ambient butterlfies and fireflies
Butterflies*
ebon tiger
aye, i know, and it's a good idea to make use of those
austere plinth
Plus all things must eventually come to water, like hatchlings and juvies.
ebon tiger
assuming they return for the new map
austere plinth
For my case advocating the Bufo, I'm assuming they are.
covert birch
Maybe beezle can be one dino who can sniff in the rain. Since when its raining will prolly be the only time it migrates
austere plinth
That would be a neat idea
ebon tiger
most of the small dinos will still be too big, even as juvies, that's my concern
austere plinth
I mean, maybe, but frogs can still bite.
covert birch
Imo
ebon tiger
oh frogs most definitely bite
austere plinth
And even then, they have expandeable stomachs, so if it did kill something it could probably eat most things whole, even if they are a little larger than it.
covert birch
Well rex and other bugs are supposedly getting swallow whole anims
So maybe it can work on beezle
austere plinth
I know, and thats why im only more excited for Bufo.
I doubt he will even be a possibility rightnow
Mainly because of all the other dinosaurs atm
covert birch
Nah he would be way later if they add it
austere plinth
but with the new foundation for the game built out right now, it paves the way for him in the future
covert birch
Prolly added in with some reworked dinos or soemthin
austere plinth
which is something im adamant about
yes, exactly
And hes small, some unique meter changes here and there and he should be fine.
Hell, I have lots of experience with 3d modeling and textures. I'll even volunteer to work on him myself for the devs for free.
I just really want bufo ;>;
covert birch
Ide personally like any amphibians since they would be perfect candidates for poison mechanics
austere plinth
Exactlyyyyy
ebon tiger
if Beelze didn't work out, there's also a wide variety of larger amphibians too, some of which could also eat fish, which adds a further diet option if ambushing dinos fails
covert birch
Koolasuchus would be cool to
ebon tiger
tbh most amphibians aren't frogs or toads, and most fossil anurans are pretty small
barren zephyr
@stoic crow It's not a fucking dinosaur how is it a clone I asked for customization
night mountain
Still super about beezle, the issue of it being too small is easily fixed by just making it bigger. We have monster spino, naked molerat utahs, dibble being like 4x the size it should be, and eyeless psychic weather controlling spinosaurids, why not a frog bigger than it should be?
random imp
lol
austere plinth
No im aware, Gothic. I'm just saying leggy boys have superiority over all other squishy amphibians.
@night mountain (Sorry for ping) THANK YOU! That's what no one understands...
night mountain
Fuck it give beezle infinite deino growth 
austere plinth
i would not fucking mind
covert birch
@minor locust comments for suggestions go in here