And.. who wanted that Mio? :p
#general-feedback-discussion
cyan flame
shell garnet
Everything else is necessary in isle right?
lilac swallow
To summarize my point, you dont need the extra range a call gives, you will only use It with your own kind, and you arent in a hurry when you want to mate
All these things are perfectly covered by the chat
barren zephyr
alot actually. and with a mating call your making their dream come true
cyan flame
You need the extra range to find someone, that is the basic point, it helps with that. And well, assuming nesting is a specific thing you'll be doing, while not in a hurry, you probably don't want to just wait around, but rather have it planned
shell garnet
Officials dont have global chat. So you have to spam 1 call till pair comes. and if you are both the same gender you will end up dying
barren zephyr
roam..
cyan flame
Waste a good home Mio? Nah :p
Im also not sure how a specific call would lead to things that they could do anyway if they wanted :p
shell garnet
Its a suggestion. It would make the game more realastic and more appealing
cyan flame
And I don't play on nycta
But it's good that you got such great arguments ;)
For your info, I only play on eu1 official, in case thats somehow relevant to you
barren zephyr
love afk growing ppl like you
shell garnet
I used to play on eu1. nycta servers have global chat you can easily find a pair
barren zephyr
Okay what the fuck is going on?
lilac swallow
I like realistic aspects, but this is NOT a realism Game
And yes It Will be more apealing, for furries
barren zephyr
dumb shit
lilac swallow
@barren zephyr mating calls
shell garnet
Lol im just tired of you guys
lilac swallow
Same as us
shell garnet
im just giving suggestions
barren zephyr
who's responsible of that Nth timed asked cursed suggestion? we got it over 40 times already
valid zephyr
I have to say nesting will get a lot more difficult once you need a male.
barren zephyr
I counted
thorn wagon
A: survival/ horror game doesn’t need animal mating or anything if the sort, the nesting system and how it’ll be tweaked is fine.
B: not everyone plays on nycta where things have “mating levels”, and using time and money just to add a system for one server group is not the best business strategy to put it lightly.
shell garnet
I suggested a mating call
thorn wagon
And it’s not needed
cyan flame
The game is, I think, supposed to be more realistic than not, in case that's relevant somehow :p
shell garnet
with long range and is different for genders
barren zephyr
@shell garnet Mating call is you using the BROADCAST and the FRIENDLY and have people answer back
barren zephyr
waiiiit for iiiiit
lilac swallow
You are open to disagreement from everyone who disagrees the second you write a suggestion
barren zephyr
we don't need another call, what we have is perfect as is, then it's just up to how you'll use them
cyan flame
Slouping, yes, but there could be better, more efficient, and useful ways to do it :p
patent spade
did someone suggest mating calls again?
cyan flame
And I do not agree that the current calls are enough, which I think should be fine
I don't get why you're all so upset cause someone does not agree with you :p
barren zephyr
That's how I do on RP servers, that's how I do on Realism, hell that's how I do to be sure the other person's not gonna see me as a fuckign diner
"the call range isnt big enough" 
valid zephyr
Could just give them a mating call and then everyone agree to never go near docks, as they will be singing the song of their people.
cyan flame
Also, Mio, you don't know how I play, and it's not relevant, besides, afkgrowing is what everyone does, and growing is not relevant to if you're roaming or not :p
barren zephyr
it's not about the name/strength of the call, it's about how you use it
imagine sitting at one spot only
shell garnet
Im just sick of these people that are just here to blame shit. Im suggesting. You are supposed to discuss not trash talk
cyan flame
Mio, yes, I like keeping a territory and staying there
lilac swallow
We are disagreeing with you
cyan flame
Imagine that people don't think exactly like you :p
lilac swallow
Thats why this channel even exist
barren zephyr
lmao
thorn wagon
Then let’s discuss; what can a mating call do that a combo of 1 and 2 can’t already do?
Give us some pros
cyan flame
I already have
lilac swallow
Not even a combo of calls, just chat
shell garnet
You can disagree. Just stop being mean ffs
barren zephyr
not how the game is intended tho
lilac swallow
I was never being mean
shell garnet
discuss
thorn wagon
All I’m seeing is you calling out mio for their opinion, so, what are the pros
lilac swallow
Never called you anything
barren zephyr
what the devs want
shell garnet
Not you legendary
barren zephyr
yea lmao
cyan flame
Deino, that was them being pissy cause I like to play differently
shell garnet
you
cyan flame
Not related to the suggestion
patent spade
making a mating call is an absolute waste of the dev's time and resources when 2 call will suffice for those who seem to need it in their lives. would rather the devs focus on actual mechanics that matter
cyan flame
You are, you're being insulting cause I disagree with roaming around and prefer to stay in an area and live there :p
cyan flame
You did
shell garnet
@patent spade thanks for discuss
valid zephyr
I'm not even against the idea of a 5 call, but I think there are so many things the devs could better spend time on
valid zephyr
aka making calls for the 8 new unnamed creatures
cyan flame
At least I find that "Imagine this" being rude
Oh Im fine, Deino just misunderstood the response, hence I cleared that up :p
shell garnet
@valid zephyr im suggesting. There are magical flying rocks in this game its not priority
shell garnet
You get the idea.
barren zephyr
- the whole game gets rebuild
shell garnet
Mate
barren zephyr
soooo
valid zephyr
As the maps are being redone and V3 is being removed, I assume these magic flying rocks will be gone.
barren zephyr
^
shell garnet
Yea
outer nebula
yes
shell garnet
mate call is not priority
Lol
ive never said that
There is alot of shet to be done
barren zephyr
mate call will never be priority
the first to be done would be to have people stop suggesting fuckign mating in this game
barren zephyr
ok 
bye
valid zephyr
I honestly think we misunderstood the suggestion.
I think it was along the lines of what I suggested.
Aka male needs to click on the nest to 'log' as a parent
barren zephyr
screenshotted and rdy to send punch
shell garnet
Yea
cyan flame
What did he do now? :p
barren zephyr
Uh oh... you're in trouble, m8
cyan flame
Wait, did Mio get triggered? :p
shell garnet
Im in trouble oh no 😦
barren zephyr
oh the others know alrdy
valid zephyr
You really are for that one...
viral creek
What did I miss.
manic ibex
I'm afraid I do know
shell garnet
I said the N word
barren zephyr
look atrium b
viral creek
oh i saw
valid zephyr
I wasn't against all aspects of that suggestion, I just think it was worded in a wierd way.
But that was way out of line.
barren zephyr
that's a 
shell garnet
Ive never done anything in this server thats against the rules
barren zephyr
suuuuuuure 
manic ibex
read the rules again
viral creek
uh huh
viral creek
imagine harassing someone because they disagreed over your suggestion of dinosaur mating enhancement
barren zephyr
Dude, you're dead man walking
shell garnet
you know nothing fam
barren zephyr
Well
valid zephyr
Admins are all in Narnia atm so you probs will get off.
crystal trail
barren zephyr
OH FUCK HE DEAD
valid zephyr
barren zephyr
HE SO DEAD
shell garnet
hajaja
crystal trail
@shell garnet So.. What made you send a vulgar message like that by chance?
shell garnet
Can we dm?
barren zephyr
bruh
manic ibex
negotiating uh?
crystal trail
Eh, I'd say you lost that right when you DM'd what you did.
glossy hornet
shell garnet
He/She harrassed me for the past hour
crystal trail
So someone didn't like your suggestion.. And instead of dropping the discussion or contacting a moderator you figured the best idea would be to blast them with a racial slur?
lilac swallow
?, Ok i will shut because what i want to say isnt apropiate
shell garnet
So i sent Him/Her my feelings using Dms to avoid breaking rules. If he/she feels disturbed he/she can block me.
crystal trail
I don't care that you didn't say it in the server.. I'm not going to tolerate anyone DM'ing someone like that because they had a minor disagreement in a bloody suggestions channel. You're out.
and bam
barren zephyr
Thank you Punch, very cool
barren zephyr
Thanks Punch
paper oriole
ehehehe looks like he got punched out
cyan flame
Maybe we can actually focus on the suggestions now xD
thorn wagon
And after delivering his divine judgement the God reascends to his hidden land for when he is needed next
patent spade
now let's get back to a real suggestion like feathers Kappa
cyan flame
Cool but.. unneccesary? :p
barren zephyr
valid zephyr
Honestly I don't think it's a bad idea for males to log as a parent with the nest, and then eggs can be incubated.
lament thorn
probs what will happen
wintry cipher
@fluid comet I think the intent behind the gores being left behind is that predators typically take the most choice meats and leave scraps behind. That's why Don made it that way; it also allows scavengers to have their niche. Just doesn't have an appropriate model yet.
lament thorn
don did mention them doing it like fish
valid zephyr
and hatchlings invited can then use the colours from any of the parents colour slots to make a skin
cyan flame
Would either parent be able to make the nest though, or do we want to limit it?
valid zephyr
yeah both should be able to incubate.
wintry cipher
That would be handy tbh to swap incubation
cyan flame
More that parent make nest, female lay eggs, male .. does something to fertilize them, I think I've seen someone describe it as, and both parents incubating yes
wintry cipher
Either one stays put and the other brings back food or they swap after getting food and the other goes to hunt
cyan flame
Though.. didn't I read somewhere that the nest would incubate.. or did I imagine that one..
lament thorn
simpliest form with but a little 'fertilise' button on the nest that sets the male player as the patriarch and allows the female to then begin gestating/incubating
cyan flame
I would imagine the female lays the eggs first I think Blue
And then male comes by and can fertilize them
lament thorn
I think fertilisation should happen first so a female cant start nesting without a male
cant just get a full nest then start asking around
wintry cipher
Idea: if a male and a female make a nest and the male is imvited as the mate, they do a little nosebump anim to signify it worked, and eggs are fertile/able to be made
cyan flame
Might have a time for the eggs to be viable?
So you could lay the eggs, but if they're not fertilized in x span they are stillborn and you have to do it again?
valid zephyr
Also have a menu showing all available eggs and species so people can join
lament thorn
wouldnt mind that Erik
cyan flame
Also I personally hope we get clutches, and not the "one egg at a time forever" we got now
But maybe that's just me :p
Should be some sort of limit, so you have to plan a bit at least
patent spade
why not just have the player's name appear where patriarch is so you know it worked
barren zephyr
thatd be ok i think
cyan flame
Not just make eggs all the time
lament thorn
and dinos will have X amount of eggs/offspring at a time I believe?
wintry cipher
I mean that works but people be stupid about checking stuff
cyan flame
That would be nice Blue, I can see the smaller critters, less defensible, have more to counter that
barren zephyr
lol
valid zephyr
I'm not actually against 5 call, I just consider it pointless.
cyan flame
Expect some loss.. :p
lament thorn
and I hope for certain creatures 1 male can fertilise multiple nests while others cant
patent spade
sounds like that's their problem then @wintry cipher XD
lament thorn
so rexes might be forced into a pair situation while a maia male can be the father of all the young in a herd
wintry cipher
Eh fair. Just saying from a designer pov
cyan flame
Well that would make sense with how well you can defend the kids I'd imagine Blue
valid zephyr
meanwhile dryos should breed like rabbits
cyan flame
If you're playing as something that can't really do much, you want lots of kids, spread out, so "more females" are viable. If you can defend the kids very well, then you might want to focus on a few kids anyway, and assure that they survive?
lament thorn
most herbis would likely have more harem situations while carnis pair more often
since a carnis kids take more time/effort
viral creek
Could also make it so certain dinosars can have more eggs at once, and incubate faster than others.
wintry cipher
....headache
fluid comet
Oh I understand @wintry cipher I thought maybe it was a good thing to make it such that everything could eat the gore but since you said about the scavenging thing I agree with you ...
But there's some like dilos/carnos not being able to eat ava gore which doesn't sit well coz utahs are able to eat them and avas aren't that small of an animal so that's my only concern
lament thorn
dryo over here with 8 max and rex has 2
cyan flame
All the dryos!
barren zephyr
dryo gang rise
cyan flame
Now add that the dryo probs have that harem, and you get soo many small ones
40 baby dryos running around!
wintry cipher
Yeah I think ava was just given a placeholder Oro gore
barren zephyr
40 dryo babies in new tunnel system 
cyan flame
But yes, the bigger, or more dependable, the fewer babies
Maybe I should phrase it as that, rather than size itself, more about the power I imagine, since that would allow the defense of the kiddies
wintry cipher
Also. My God. After 1.2k hours of nesting, 2 babies at once is enough trouble let alone 4+
cyan flame
Tunnel system would be nice, or at least a second exit!
barren zephyr
god yes
lament thorn
theri flashbacks
lament thorn
its like a 9 hour growth time
wintry cipher
They all made it to adult.
lament thorn
ive been abandoned as a theri baby so many times
no one has the guts and willpower to stay
wintry cipher
I was never more proud/horrified
Blue ik your pain I was the single mom
That would tangle with apexes like a pitbull
Idk how many times I thought I'd die but made it or scared them off
lament thorn
Cant wait for the nesting updates
wintry cipher
Yasss
lament thorn
will make it a wayy more rewarding experience
and if we can get some decent looking kids
cyan flame
I just want to be useful as a male.. xD
Speaking of decent looking kids, any ideas on how that should be handled, I think Jen noted something on it earlier?
lament thorn
id like it to be connected to affinity
wintry cipher
If babies could un- oooooo
lament thorn
so if both parents have decent/good affinity their kids get more colour options
but if its bad they are limited
wintry cipher
What if high affinity parents could nest babies and they can get unique colors
So it encourages bloodlines without chips
For those colors
lament thorn
that would be interesting
might help and encourage people to stick with nested dinos and nest themselves
wintry cipher
Mhm
lament thorn
since right now lots of people suicide and waste the egg
wintry cipher
Especially camo color variety
cyan flame
Thats interesting, adding affinity to the color choices, should the colors still be limited/related to the parents base choices?
Or.. like, more affinity, more "out there" from the parents?
wintry cipher
Hmm...maybe insofar as green, grey, or brown, but not their strict color
cyan flame
I sort of want the kids to look like they're those parents kids
wintry cipher
Yeah
cyan flame
But then I think seeing little twins or such is adorable :p
lament thorn
id assume nesting with good affinity would give you all your parents options + other colours
cyan flame
Nothing as cute as seeing two babies that are identical, and looks like their mom, just with some shades off the mother :p
lament thorn
while bad affinity would just give you your parents and maybe even take a few away?
cyan flame
But I'd be fine with extra colors for high affinity
wintry cipher
Exactly
cyan flame
But Im not sure if two green/camo parents should have a "blue/red" baby even with high affinity
Or maybe they should, it could be a cool "reward" I guess
barren zephyr
sometimes its weird when you get a cheese skin when the parent doesnt even have much yellow on their skin
wintry cipher
What if the biome affects it?
So if green parents nest in redwoods they get red baby colors
To help it survive there
lament thorn
once had 8 kids all were browns/greys then that ONE baby had to go and be bright yellow
cyan flame
Oh yes Mio, we had that with dibbles recently, parent had grey, with some dryo dark green, every kid had maia/utah yellow on them to more or less degrees, and in more or less bright/green shades ^^
All the kids looked alike, but god only knows where the yellow came from!
wintry cipher
I. Hate. Yellow. So. Much
lament thorn
someone cheated
cyan flame
I know right Blue, we looked like our dad was the original lemon maia :p
barren zephyr
cheese babies ugh 🧀
cyan flame
Well, I would imagine the parents choose colors for the biome to begin with and would live in said biome
viral creek
i like yellow. not as a base color tho
barren zephyr
yellow can be nice yea. but used right that is
wintry cipher
Yee. But if they had to move and nested some buddies, then they could swap to high affinity babies of a better color
cyan flame
To be fair Mio, we didn't look as bad as those that deliberately make cheese critters ^^
True that Keit, so yes, it could work
barren zephyr
loll
cyan flame
Or perhaps that would be the reward with affinity?
wintry cipher
All of it could be in there
Nesting in a biome can give colors. On top of affinity colors
On top of parent colors
So lots of options in the same vein
lament thorn
so not every child from the same pair is identical
cyan flame
Would be interesting if someone would nest in a less helpful biome only to get the colors, but it sounds almost like PoT with some sort of "quest" there.. :p
Sorry!
viral creek
sounds kinda weird
I think being able to pick from the colors both of your parents had is enough
cyan flame
I do like the idea of high affinity giving that extra variety, would allow for more nesting options and more options to send your kids to if they can't join your own group
barren zephyr
im still in for killing your sibling; the stronger one survives 
cyan flame
Easy to achieve if you really want that to be a thing :p
outer nebula
@minor sleet thats kinda hard to track since the night is actually client side not server side, it may look completely dark on your screen but could be brighter on theres
pulsar orchid
@barren zephyr I've wanted that, too, but not many people see the need for those animations, like sleeping. We might get it though, as someone suggested you have to "sleep" to safelog, but I dunno
crimson phoenix
Most people don't like the idea of sleeping because it is kind of forced to be an afk mechanic
barren zephyr
Well it’ll be like sitting, you have to get up to fight thing
crimson phoenix
the other complaint is it would just be sit two eclectic boogaloo
barren zephyr
Idk what that means lol
crimson phoenix
it's referring to sleep making you more vulnerable (sitting means you can't move or attack) while giving you better recovery
barren zephyr
I see
crimson phoenix
most sleep suggestions are pretty much "you would be vulnerable but you would heal/grow/regen stam faster"
patent spade
even though sitting does that exact thing lol
sleep mechanic is unnecessary and many ppl want it just for rp
crimson phoenix
I however like the idea of sleep being a different sit animation, but it would be hard to balance because getting a dino so low to the ground makes them pretty stealthy
barren zephyr
I though it would look better then sitting
jovial moss
I think a lay down mechanic would be cool, rather than full sleep
If I need to hide I would not stick my tail out and my head up like a moron
crimson phoenix
sneaky sit
barren zephyr
Maia’s kinda do before you said stick your head up
crimson phoenix
RN I would say dilo and rex are the only creatures that can actually hide in most places by sitting
having a low down or stealth sit that took longer to stand up from would be neat
jovial moss
like Pachy should have a sit where they do the macarena on their ass, but if they hear a rex and need to actually hide, a posture with their head on the ground and their tail still would be amazing
patent spade
at that point i would rather just use the regular sit
barren zephyr
See I just meant at night or safe logging we would sleep and it would look more realistic
crimson phoenix
there have been times that I wish my sucho would sit just a little bit lower, I would definitely use normal sit more, but lay down would be useful when I'm running from gigas
crimson phoenix
the other issue with sleep is you close your eyes, it's pretty damn hard to see something sitting in a bush at night if you don't see their eye shine
patent spade
that looks like an uncomfortable sleeping position lol
verbal acorn
A sleep mechanic/hide posture would be great. More stealthy, but takes more time to get up. It should improve recovery/healing. Not necessarily decrease hunger and thirst consumption over just resting.
patent spade
i meant for the deer on that one XD
jovial moss
That baby isn't sleeping it's hiding
crimson phoenix
Those pictures do it pretty good
barren zephyr
The full lay down is what I want in the game
crimson phoenix
second one is what I wish my sucho would do when the giga is walking by
jovial moss
sitting down to hide as Pachy is the worst, it's more effective to crouch
crimson phoenix
pretty much the same for utah, but if you need to hide as a utah your already screwed
barren zephyr
And not hover over the ground actually get low and lay
violet magnet
sitting to hide as pachy or cerato does nothing for stealth ffs
they move too much in the sitting idles
and cerato has the little forward step that's present even when it's crouching for some reason, does NOT help when I'm trying to hide from an apex
crimson phoenix
yea sitting idles are a bad idea IMO, at least they haven't made crouching idles (pls no)
violet magnet
@minor sleet eeehhhh...in the lighter parts of night I can see moderately well without nightvision, and during the darker parts of night I can see silhouettes of dinos moving around (especially when it's raining, they get all shiny and easier to see)
just being able to see who's using nightvision and who's not wouldn't be a good indicator of gamma cheating imo
barren zephyr
they already made crouching idles
I.) Remove the extremely fidgety crouch idle animations. I don't want a dino with ADHD, no offense.
II.) Being able to lie flat against the ground could be extremely useful, however I see it taking an extra second at least to get up from this lying position. (maybe not an extra second but you get what I mean, it should take longer to get up from this position than from simply sitting)
stray forum
sounds good
oblique sluice
@past valve Pachy is already faster than dilo
lilac swallow
Pachy just need better bleed resist and maybe more dmg
oblique sluice
Just better bleed res and growth time reduced, imo
past valve
It can’t even tackle a utah, it should break their bones with like a 25% chance
oblique sluice
It can, and more if they are docktahs
3 hits sounds reasonable
Just make pachy nearly inmune to bleed, so dilos and utahs don't want to fight him
viral creek
also dilos and utahs will always want to fight anything and everything because they have the brain capacity of a mentally disabled sloth
especially utahs.
past valve
But yes i feel bad for pachys OK?!
oblique sluice
Even with these buffs to pachy, MAYBE i would nerf pachy speed to current dilo speed
viral creek
Don't feel bad for me
oblique sluice
So we don't have maia 2.0
past valve
Yea
past valve
Either make it faster or buff it’s attack
oblique sluice
No u
past valve
No they’re pretty good
past valve
Yea
viral creek
Dilos are the literal worst. Every night, I hear WORBLE WORBLE WORBLE.
oblique sluice
If you buff the bleed res (it's needed), and also growth time
past valve
RrrRrRrRrr
past valve
If u nerf the speed, buff the attack
oblique sluice
Again, 3 hits for dilo/utah sounds reasonable
past valve
Yea and then they’re down
oblique sluice
Practically inmune to bleed, 10 min more than dilo
lilac swallow
Pachy with more speed is just a galli, better give more strength making It the strongest small tier
oblique sluice
perfect pachy
past valve
Pachy in my heart🥰
oblique sluice
I like pachy
viral creek
Good
oblique sluice
But i don't want it a new and more compact maia
past valve
Yea same
oblique sluice
Make the fucker a little tank
past valve
That would be awesome
oblique sluice
If a utah or dilo is enough dumb to attack you, it either dies or you make him run for his life
lilac swallow
Just think about rex, and transform It on a small herbivore
oblique sluice
And pachy don't need a dmg buff or speed buff for that
past valve
Yea
oblique sluice
^
past valve
Just buff it’s bleed res times 100
oblique sluice
ye
viral creek
at least pachy ins't a mini shant like maia
oblique sluice
Maia is dumb cousin of shant
lilac swallow
Maias are miniature shants
past valve
I hate hadrosaurs without any unique features
lilac swallow
They do the same to small that shant did to apex
Also Maia is like the most lame looking hadrosaur
past valve
Yes
lilac swallow
Is an hadro without the traits that are cool of hadros
viral creek
maia acts like a shant too
lilac swallow
True
night mountain
The whole point of being a herbivore is generally having food be fucking everywhere
oblique sluice
@jolly belfry Utah will have pounce, let dilo be small tier nocturnal alone
still temple
Out of all the interesting mid sized hadrosaurs, Maiasaura is definitely the fukin lamest one
no crest, no nasal ridge, no midline scales, nothing
past valve
Yes like shant is pretty boring but it’s massive size makes up for that
barren zephyr
@mild basin it would be extremely unnecessary sense we’re gonna get the new growth system
past valve
It also sounds highly unrealistic
And you wouldn’t wanna get older than that do everyone would just kill themselves
sonic cloud
@mild basin big yes to increased speed, fat no to increased damage
outer nebula
@mellow fox i understand your concern and yes its annoying but many of the work i've seen is isle related. and if the admins are okay with it and mind it im sure its fine
mellow fox
I didn't mean this suggestion to be a jab towards anyone and I think it's still mostly used as intended.
However, I have a bunch of people I talked with say they don't like to post in #401470471750811669 because it gets ignored or burried. Similarly, there are people that like to use #401470471750811669 more for discussion purposes, and not exactly to browse art.
I think it would also lift a bit of moderation effort in a way that it would be much more straightforward where to put what, and hopefully less effort made into posting art that isn't fanart into #isle-fan-art
It's less of an annoyance issue, my suggestion is genuinely aimed towards making a better communication platform for artists
outer nebula
i dont mind posting in #401470471750811669 heck most of my work i post on here goes there but yeah it get annoying real fast
brittle ivy
For all intents and purposes though, this is an official game discord and not a general discussion server. Offtopic suits the needs for non-Isle related artwork just fine, but if artists are looking for in depth discussion on their works, this server is not the best avenue. They’d be better off joining an actual artist circle discord for that and not a game discord with three generalized channels.
outer nebula
^
if your art friends want some where to post their work i know of a few paleo art servers
mellow fox
I suppose. I saw lot of people wanting to make dinosaur arts not strictly isle-related, as well as other things that TECHNICALLY aren't isle related, but in a way, hit close to home to the theme of this game. Kinda like #paleotalk.
But I understand that, and well, if it's fine, then no problem, just I thought it was a good idea. That's all.
Also, sure Doc, slap me with them in PM
outer nebula
sure
barren zephyr
Raven has a point, There's a number of artworks that are more dinosaur related in general than TI and since it's close enough it gets a pass, but when you're doing fan art, you can't really be that easy on who gets in and who doesn't. It's not because you draw an Spino and post it here that it is automatically the Spino from TI.
And I'm purposefully using the Spino as an example because the one in TI is a unique design that only TI has and uses... See what I mean?
outer nebula
yeah usually a good why to know is compare it to actual dino art
valid elk
Anyone wanna discuss my suggestion?
outer nebula
@valid elk we havent even seen the running of the juvie deino so we dont know how it looks so nothing to really discuss
valid elk
Ah
chilly plover
Please add/DO something! New AI.. skins... something.. Nothing changed in this long. Why o Why 😦
thorn wagon
@chilly plover https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/FaithfulExuberantBoarMoreCowbell?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time
chilly plover
Ahhh the recode that was march! cool. Let me look. Thanks
thorn wagon
Pay attention to the last bit where he says “rebuild the entire game”
past valve
and to the part where he says isle 2 electric bugaloo
thorn wagon
The reason we have nothing new is because they’re remaking 3-4 years of game, so that more and better things can happen; adding stuff now on the derpy broken code will be pointless since it’ll get replaced and probably break more things.
chilly plover
ok so it wont be a recode/remake of the exact same game we have. interesting. Hopeful
fast flume
indeed, it will be improved upon, replaced in just about everything except soundtrack, models and textures as far as we know
in short, they are working on The Isle 2.0 compared to what we have now
chilly plover
aslong as its something. i mean how long since anything was added. Just constantly teased with things! playing with all sorts of strings lol
fast flume
and Bryan said, yesterday morning, that they are getting close to internal QA testing, so there is light in the end of the tunnel
compact matrix
I'm confident we'll have news by the end of december
sinful flint
Are we going to have to pay for this new version?
fast flume
nope
fast flume
to quote Dondi "except we're not going to force you to pay for it...because we're not russian"
indigo sun
Except its much bigger than an average update
fast flume
yeah
chilly plover
dino models etc is all the same? what is actually going to be new?
indigo sun
Plants, map, sky, turning will be different, code in general is gonna be far better, better water mechanics that will be able to include diving, collision, theyre trying to make it so you cant bite through trees or walls but idk how important that is to you, sound behave better
All thats new
The game runs better now
chilly plover
think most would just like something new or added. I mean Pachy etc was the last actual content update..
long heath
I'd keep the elder forms limited to herbs, ALL herbs considering they don't have much incentive to play as currently. Plus carnivores have strains.
chilly plover
which is many moons ago
indigo sun
They cant do anything til the recode's done though
Theyre on a different version of the engine they use now and taking anyone away from the recode slows it down
Plus anything done would have to be redone anyway
wintry cipher
I can't wait for the engine update so my game stops fritzing....
chilly plover
Well atleast we finally know. Long time coming.
ashen elm
They are adding new things, though they may or may not come around the time of the Recode.
New models for Spino and Stego. New creatures with Dienosuchus and Ptera.
Dondi has also teased 8 new creatures, 1 which will be a carnivore and 7 other unknown omnivore and herbivores.
chilly plover
we been teased for years! so thats not happening lol
indigo sun
Ptera and deino are iffy cause deino needs stuff still and ptera needs flight
And spino it depends if they put grappling in or just wait til all that shits done to put it in
Oh ptera also needs fish
ashen elm
As has been discussed, there are reasons for the delay. I don't know why people would lack confidence when you know how often The Isle pumped out content consistently for year(s) before this major set back.
chilly plover
Thanks @ashen elm for info anyway. ❤️
barren zephyr
@night mountain Yes and no for that, if someone accidentally steps on it then all the eggs are gone and when you stand up you step on it so you’ll never have any eggs
grave karma
maybe if its not a parent of the eggs and it sprints on them if they're heavy enough
night mountain
me as carno running through the herds nesting grounds
barren zephyr
Maybe but eggs take too long as it is
paper oriole
galli should be able to kick eggs out of the nest and hit other dinos with them as a ranged attack
night mountain
"Client-side only hallucinations"
best idea ever
make them extremely loud jumpscares of a shant screaming
warped harbor
They shouldn't be obvious
Like I want to actually make people worry and change where they're going
If they hear a thing roaring over there
Or footprints heading over here
warped harbor
Also, shrooms
barren zephyr
"Survival horror"
"yeah not that hard"
Starts having hallucinations and jumpscares
Great
barren zephyr
have them hear noises of animals that aren't actually ingame
so only veterans are like "oh... I'm in deep shit"
and new guys are "Wtf was that?"
night mountain
lmaoo i like that
warped harbor
They should really mess with you when there are also other things
Like ACTUAL things
So you hear a utah over there but there's an allo nearby and you're like shit... Who is real
barren zephyr
Also, make totally back dinos appear and run at a distance during the night
warped harbor
Is the allo walking conveniently near me because he is an hallucination?
barren zephyr
and it makes more noise like they're getting more numerous and closer
Imagine being a maia, and you think you see a dilo move in the distance
but then after a while you go "this is getting out of hand, there's two of them now"
warped harbor
"There is another"
Or... You sniff
And see a gore pile through the ground as you do
barren zephyr
and after several minutes, it's like a dozens that are stalking from JUST OUTSIDE your NV
warped harbor
But when you walk there it's gone
And then it turns out at least four of them were real
But the hallucination smartly exaggerated them
night mountain
add glimpses of a cotylorhynchus in the distance staring directly at you and its eyes are in startlingly high definition, trying to get closer makes it move back further like that staircase in mario 64
warped harbor
Danger rex
With the weird ass mouth
An actual shadow following you and in the distance you just see it yawn or something
night mountain
barren zephyr
A friend of mine had that with coyotes
he was wih friends, and coyotes started to howl, and it kept having more of them
The next morning, they realized there were at least 30 animals that had been walking around their camp just out of the light of the fire and they had been doing this all night
now imagine it's dilos or herreras
but you're the only one hearing shit
night mountain
suddenly see your group members as dilos so you attack them
warped harbor
I thought about making real player dinosaurs appear as something else
But that'd be too hard to sync up
barren zephyr
make the sub giga look like a full grown giga
warped harbor
Since things move at different speeds
barren zephyr
but fast
warped harbor
Though I only see those kind of things working for a few seconds cause else it would look stupid
Not scary
barren zephyr
random mutant vampire bat
warped harbor
Or like a juvi giga
Looks like an adult giga crouching
Since he is actually moving slow
OR VICEVERSA.
barren zephyr
also
Add dinos to packs and hers like in you suggestion, but they are randomly put around one of the dinos and immitate wha the does
warped harbor
An adult giga who is crouching looks like a juvi giga who's trotting around
And you walk straight into it trying to eat it
Maybe when you get close enough it is revealed what it actually is
barren zephyr
"Heh you guys are 5?"
"Five? I'm alone dude"
"Stop bullshitting me, you guys are 5"
gets close
they 4 others disappear
warped harbor
4 others show up
night mountain
hallucination where the entire ground renders into an endless landscape of conjoined utahs and their various parts, trees made of tails sprouting into fruiting utah heads, rock formations nothing but lumps of flesh, fields of utah tongues blowing in the wind where the plains used to be
barren zephyr
when it's carnivores, they don't disappear until it's almost too late to avoid the bite but they don't
night mountain
theres your horror
barren zephyr
so you can't fucking tell which one will poof into smoke when it collides with you, and which will actually bite
stray forum
i do not find officials the isle spino emoji
barren zephyr
stray forum
like with name just spino
night mountain
warped harbor
We'll most likely get one once the spino is out
stray forum
probably
warped harbor
Also, #general-feedback is for suggestions about the game
Not the place to ask for discord things
valid flower
@barren zephyr what do u mean “kill switch?”
barren zephyr
i think she means just a suicide option
tbh id like that instead of waiting for myself to starve or spending ages to jump off a cliff
valid flower
That would ruin the game
“Oh shit a rex is about to kill me.”
kills myself
Game would be so unenjoyable
barren zephyr
@valid flower like a button that you can press on the character manu that kills you and leaves your body
past valve
@wooden canyon iirc para weren’t semi aquatic, those hypothesis were outdated
pale pelican
Para should swim faster
dull night
Just a dino having a heart attack of a scare from t-rex, BAM solved !
valid zephyr
I like the idea of specialised biomes and diets. Would add in a lot of variation
pale pelican
I think you should be able to decide what biome you want to spawn in, it would be easier to find your freinds
dull night
Make option to group even before spawning that will lock your choice of dino to what group leader has and spawn near them also make it only work when group leader is not adult (cuz then it would defeat nesting). Bam problem solved
Now problem is real because finding your friend for hours only cuz of spawn randomized makes game a lot more annoying and makes people give up.
past valve
Yes
pale pelican
Ye
dull night
I threw it in suggestion guys if you want to bump i up 👍
pale pelican
Kk
wooden canyon
I like that! @dull night
wooden canyon
Glad people generally like my idea
warped harbor
@barren zephyr Please note that
- A discord invite is not a suggestion.
- We do not allow advertising of other servers in this discord.
indigo sun
@barren zephyr that's not a suggestion
blazing charm
@barren zephyr Mind elaborating?
indigo sun
i feel like if you want to do anything where people watch you stream you'd be better off doing it on twitch and then putting your stream in #videos-and-streams instead of streaming in the discord where literally no one watches
grave karma
it would be even more chaotic if there were no rules except cheating
night mountain
allow cheating the last hour
indigo sun
I was in a server once where they stopped enforcing the rules for the last 24 hours before a wipe i think thatd be neat if they did that just before the recode
grave karma
yeah that'd be epic
indigo sun
Its really funand itd get peopleall excited
pale prairie
@mental spear after the recode, the game will use truesky, the sky in general will look much better.
https://clips.twitch.tv/SavageHomelyPlumageDxAbomb
mental spear
🙏 papa bless! wasn't sure if it was addressed or not
barren zephyr
Looking fabulous
barren zephyr
Reaction to the Elder suggestion from some time ago: I'm sorry but if it takes a week or two to reach elder then what would even be the point. I'm that person that dies before getting even close to that long or gets bored and ditches.
sonic cloud
Elders are pointless, they just become the new 1.0
sonic cloud
Nothing really, you want elder Maia, that’s just para
You want elder para, that’s just shan’t and there’s a good reason that it isn’t happening
Also making the current 1.0 redundant
slender spindle
yeah
safe galleon
I don’t want to be punished with my Dino getting worse stats because I’m able to survive
It’s like giving someone a task and when they complete the task they get punished
slender spindle
@echo mauve plz no why would you want to survive just to get weaker?
valid zephyr
Elders with worse stats which randomly die sounds awful.
Players should have control of their creature, and not randomly lose it to things outside of their control.
thorn wagon
“Oh you wanted to log on and have fun? Too bad you’ve just randomly died because you managed to survive a week, have fun regrowing.”
patent spade
imagine if it took someone like 2 weeks to grow their rex cause they are busy and then it keels over dead the minute they can finally spend more than 1 or 2 hours on it lol. if you want to play something else or get bored of your current dino then kill it off yourself
thorn wagon
Damn, I rarely see you talk but every time I do it’s hard facts
thorn wagon
@barren zephyr https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567032915024805901/646780370246828044/image0.png
barren zephyr
Ah sorry, I must have completely missed those. Thank you
blazing charm
@winged spindle You need to elaborate a little more on why the dinosaur you're suggesting should be added. The current main gamemode for the Isle revolves around every creature having some unique mechanic, gimmick or quality.
barren zephyr
ah yes, a rex clone 
blazing charm
Daspleto can work, but people just need to think outside the box for mechanics.
barren zephyr
@winged spindle good idea tbh. thanks for sharing 😃
remote magnet
Tarbwosawus
grave karma
alberto alternate skin dlc
barren zephyr
we have alberto alrdy soo
remote magnet
blazing charm
It's basically within the same boat as Alberto, if I recall they're around the same size-
barren zephyr
if thats,,,,ever going to be survival that is
blazing charm
Oh I get that Mio, and I want Alberto over Daspleto, but I am just trying to encourage them to come up with something unique.
blazing charm
Nah it's fine.
past valve
We don’t need more carnivores
blazing charm
Says you
mental sleet
^
valid zephyr
i'd much rather alberto than daspleto
barren zephyr
same, alberto just needs a remodel imo
blazing charm
And some mechanics, obviously.
thorn wagon
More like daspletely inferior to Alberto
viscid gust
how much does alberto weigh]
grave karma
3000 kg ingame i believe
past valve
Uh yes no more carnis
indigo sun
@winged spindle please put a little more effort into your suggestion than "huh maybe this in game"
grave karma
we have 4 carnis announced as far as i know that are coming
not out of the 8 unannounced
past valve
Which 4
past valve
Neat
grave karma
dondi says he wants it
pale prairie
wasn't herrera confirmed at one point as well
barren zephyr
Also austro rework?
IIRC
when asked if Austro and alberto were binned, dondi answered "no they are not binned" and "Because I love alberto"
and he didn't specify only albert was saved, so that means austro could be too
I see
can't confirm, but to me it sounds like a soft yes
mighty girder
I'd be surprised if Austro doesn't come back, but they need decent looking feathers before he can
barren zephyr
Agreed
jovial moss
Supposedly things like Theri and Austro won't be added without their feathers, so if Austro is added he won't be gross and nakey
which is nice
barren zephyr
maybe they can do the naked model
but only release it when the feathers are ready to be a system
jovial moss
Naked Theri 🤢
grave karma
theri 🤢
zenith scroll
grave karma
it means it's going to be added at some point/confirmed by the devs
tepid gate
There are so many interesting theropods out there I think adding another tyrannosaurid would be a waste, unless it's really unique in some way.
jovial moss
@long heath maybe it could be something like pressing H while laying down is the slow way to stand up, but pressing W while laying down is the fast way to stand up?
But it costs stamina to do the W stand, so it's not spammable and is only used when neccessary
long heath
I think standing up faster should be natural when you're being attacked or your dinosaur is stressed out.
Makes it more automated rather having to press two keys.
Also the point of standing up quicker is to be able to run away more effectively? Taking stamina to stand up faster ruins that purpose.
You can't "spam" stress or standing up quickly either considering your goal is to escape or fight back. It'd only activate under two circumstances.
jovial moss
Yes but standing up comfortably as a Trike vs standing up really fast as a Trike, one is much more exhausting
long heath
You can't just do it on the whim.
Camara I can understand if it takes more energy to get up but Trike?
You're joking if you honestly consider having something that simple cost stamina for an already asthmatic animal.
jovial moss
It was just a suggestion
long heath
I know.
You can't abuse getting up faster when it only happens by the game's standards and not the player's
The game decides when you get to stand up quickly, not the player.
tepid gate
What would guys think of allowing some dinosaurs to stand up faster if you simultaneously press movement key, say "w" and "h", however perhaps at a cost of stamina?
jovial moss
I just put the option there for the people who think Trike standing up too fast when a Rex comes at them is "OP" and "Unfair"
long heath
Complaining about Trikes being OP won't change ever.
tepid gate
Trikes aren't op right ow
long heath
Locational damage and collision will fuck Rexes over.
No difference does getting up faster make because you can't just assride your prey to death.
tepid gate
I'm not very familiar with the rex vs trike match up, I think a good rex should be winning more often than not at the moment.
I'm saying that it wins more often
than not
that it should in future
long heath
Trike v Rex is largely orientated to Trike, and that's how it should be.
long heath
Rex may be strong but it's still a hell of a challenge to kill Trike when it has 3 spears to puncture your lungs, heart or brain.
tepid gate
I think giga vs trike is a better match up
lilac swallow
No
lilac swallow
Rex has advantage right now
tepid gate
yea thats what Im saying
long heath
Really boils down to Rex's stupid RNG bite.
tepid gate
if rex is good it should win with the current balance of the game
lilac swallow
Just bb the trike, go throught It and bite that ass
long heath
If it breaks your leg on the first go then the Trike is dead.
tepid gate
if you get bitten twice with the first charge of the rex
you're very likely bb-ed
and a good rex shouldnt have a problem pulling that off
long heath
I doubt Rex's bullshit is permanent, nor will it be able to just go through shit like Trike.
tepid gate
oh I'm quite certain double bite won't be a thing after the recode
long heath
If all creatures are able to stand up faster automatically under high stress scenarios it'll make hunting harder for carnivores, and that of itself is necessary.
tepid gate
it's quite silly though, but at the same time it kind of allows to distinguish good players from mediocre ones
night mountain
giga vs trike is a terrible matchup
tepid gate
why?
long heath
Just tank a gore or two, sprint away and sit down to heal.
lilac swallow
Enought
long heath
Those were bad Gigas.
night mountain
thats because they weren't patient
tepid gate
giga heals up only 2 more bleed per minute than trike does
night mountain
if you're patient giga shits all over trike every time
lilac swallow
Bleed hurts trike more than giga
night mountain
now if theres a herd to protect it thats diff
long heath
Trike has the second worst healing in the game out of all survival creatures, juvi Giga being the worst.
APPARENTLY
tepid gate
trike has the same bleed healing as rex
10 per minute
while sitting
5 while walking
or standing
giga has 12
sitting
7 standing
trike's bleed res is worse than rex's though
so there's that
long heath
Trike gets fucked by Giga more commonly than Rex.
If Gigas are struggling to hunt Trikes, that's their problem.
tepid gate
only time I lost to giga was if I tried to stomp it and it got behind me
long heath
If you can't be patient as a Giga then go play Rex and try to brute force a Trike I guess.
tepid gate
or messed up in some other stupid way
lilac swallow
Equal skill, and trik will allways lose, while having no running chance due to being slower than both carnivore apex
tepid gate
Trike loses 10 more health than giga if they're both standing, 10 less if trike is standing and giga is trotting around it
giga has less health than trike too
lilac swallow
The thing is that giga dont trot around It, giga stands still and only move if trike charges but a bleeding trike charging is just hurting himself
long heath
It's hilariously easy to bleed out a Triceratops.
tepid gate
you should not be charging the giga at all
long heath
Did it with Dilo, just took a long time.
lilac swallow
Thats my point
long heath
Rex can chase Dilos down with ambush.
lilac swallow
You shouldnt charge a giga as trike, but if you dont charge the giga resist the bleed more because the giga isnt moving
long heath
Trike can't chase for shit.
Basically Trike is a sitting duck and unless it uses wonky hitboxes it can't really do much against a Dilo with a brain.
Same goes for Giga.
If Trike tries to sit down and heal, the Giga will sprint in and stop that.
If the Trike tries to charge, the Giga will just trot away.
tepid gate
trike does more bleed to a giga with a single gore than giga does to it with a single bite
long heath
If the Trike just stands there, it's only a matter of time until it bleeds out.
Man, if only bleed actually did something to a Giga, huh?
tepid gate
giga can only stop trike like that if its ambushing
if it does with while just sprinting without ambush it can eat up a couple of gores while its tail is right in your hitbox
long heath
Giga has lower health but it's more of a reliable tank than Trike.
tepid gate
lower health and weight
long heath
It only takes a couple bites to handicap Trike.
You don't need to brute strength a Trike. You just have to wait.
tepid gate
you need to bite it only about 3 bites to put each other at 3 bleed
bites/gores
both do about the same bleed
long heath
And Giga can heal faster.
tepid gate
2 per minute
long heath
If the trike tries to charge it's only killing itself faster.
tepid gate
it shouldnt be charing
long heath
Plus Giga regenerates stamina while moving.
If both creatures are at equal bleed the Giga's gonna heal faster.
tepid gate
1 minute faster
long heath
And it's going to have taken less damage from bleed than Trike.
Easy game.
I can assuredly tell you now the Gigas you have faced probably played mostly Rex, decided to change it up a bit, went Giga and still rely on playing like Rex
tepid gate
maybe, I shall test it out a bit more
night mountain
Yeah as far as I know giga always shits on trike as long as you just do two bites, and then leave it alone and only stop it from sitting
most gigas are bad and/or impatient though so idk how often people actually DO that
tepid gate
Tested it just now - pretty certain that trike is getting dumpstered now
lilac swallow
Reality is often disapointing
tepid gate
I need to check one more thing, because I think something might've been wrong with the server I was testing it on
tepid gate
I think server was wrong
I'm testing it again now and I decided to check who's gonna die first after each hitting the other one 3 times, so far giga went into both 3rd and 4th screen first
I'm pretty certain trike's gonna live longer
and this is with both of them standing in place without either walking
both healed up bleed at last screen
Trike did it 1 minute 50 seconds after giga
trike was left with less hp than giga though
tepid gate
I stand by my point, it's a very balanced match up
patent spade
@full salmon the purpose of the 4 call is a distress call though, it's not your problem if you see something and you 4 call and run and they dont listen and vice versa. if having another call actually serves a purpose that the other calls cant already do and is useful then sure
full salmon
It’s just a little more handy
Boom, replied so fast because I have nothing else to do in life
patent spade
XD
full salmon
So proud :,).
patent spade
I wouldnt be opposed to them adding some more calls if each call served a different purpose that's useful to us cause otherwise what's the point of putting in the work for something that another call already covers
full salmon
Shhh, don’t prove your point that’s embarrassing to me
patent spade
I'm very curious what bufftrike is typing rn XD
paper oriole
Maybe each call should have 2 variations
4call, holding it down does the current cry for help, hitting it quickly does a quick alarm bark/squak
2call
Holding it does a 'mating' call, hitting it quickly does current friend call
3call
Holding it does current roar, quickly does a warning growl or snort
Im on mobile slow af typing lol
full salmon
You want to buff trike? I do not consult with such nonsense
patent spade
I see lol
full salmon
Kidding, don’t kill me
paper oriole
Trike is giga burger king lol
full salmon
Not unless you know how to play
paper oriole
Unless the giga doesnt know how to fight
full salmon
I’ve never in my life seen a trike with full health die to a giga
paper oriole
I've killed impatient ones as trike, ive killed a fuck ton of trike as giga
patent spade
pfft who needs skill for trike when they have that op gore to hit you from a football field away
full salmon
Dondi, my brother, dear father, my favorite son, if you are reading this do NOT buff trike
oak marsh
I really like the idea of a ‘watch out’ call as well, just seems like a missing sort of “emote” necessary for the game
full salmon
Someone gets it
paper oriole
Ya variation would be nice
Eap if you dont wanna let out a long call which some have
cyan flame
Huh.. interesting :p
full salmon
No u
grave karma
MATING CALL
MATING CALL
jovial moss
Instead of a mating call it could be an excited call? like you have the general happy 2 call and if you hold it you get an excited set of noises bc ur dino is happy af
like when a cat is hungry and makes a whole swarm of noises that aren't really the usual meow
paper oriole
An excited call could work too lol i couldnt really think what a louder friendly would be
jovial moss
I think it'd work since it'd be cute and fun but not just a noise solely for "WANT FUK"
paper oriole
Yea or a sort of friendly broadcast like "oi im looking for friends" where a normal broadcast is really just announcing your presence
Could be either or
twilit pewter
Dryo burrows need more things inside, like small decros XD maybe bones and leafs on the side
barren zephyr
Id have to agree, as the devs had said before Dryo is a joke. But that doesn't mean people can't enjoy playing it, and since it is so low on the food chain might as well give it some cool perks the larger Dino's could only dream of having
barren zephyr
For burrowing, I think it's be cool to have multiple tunnel expansions as well as multiple entries and exits. Allowing dryos to nest inside these burrows would be fantastic for raising the tiny squeakers. But I think this should also come with a downside. On times of heavy rain the burrows could flood, maybe not completely fill and destroy them, unless it gets that bad, but waterlog everything and Chase out the inhabitants
twilit pewter
The burrow is HUGE, it could definitely hold a dryo nest or two, since the nest itself isn't big
I think burrow should only have 2 rooms that connect to a exit/enter for burrow
You can leave and enter both, but they're both connected
barren zephyr
Then if both holes are covered you're screwed
Especially if the idea of other preds being able to dig out burrows ever passes
twilit pewter
True, I think the fun part would be trying to find both burrow holes 👀
barren zephyr
Depends how they snap onto each other and how large the connection could be
twilit pewter
It would look like a small tunnel to the other side, maybe it having to be 40 inches near the first burrow? And it'll tell you how far it is currently so it's easier to calculate
Also I think storing food should be a thing for burrows, since body carryings gonna be a thing rexes and other Apex are gonna be hoarding foods badly in their nesting spot
barren zephyr
Well I mean if you place your burrows in a good spot, I don't see food storing aside from nesting being needed tbh
especially considering that dryos are herbs not carnis
twilit pewter
Fair enough , though after awhile food dies off and you gotta move, unlike carnis where you can sit in a spot for days and get food to just spawn
barren zephyr
Well bushes do grow back, and dryos on their own do not consume much. It's compeiltition you'd have to worry about, which pushes the idea of migration. But in the case of dryos which are small and generally get hungrier and thirstier faster, it's harder to migrate between large areas
twilit pewter
That's why storing food would be nice XD at a cap of 250? But adults eat maybe 30%, juvis 20, and hatchies 10
Especially in huge herds where the much larger herbis eat all your food before you can reach it XD
barren zephyr
Yeah but even stored food doesn't last forever, so it wouldn't make a huge difference unless you were smart about your storage
twilit pewter
Fair
grave karma
eusocial dryos?
barren zephyr
OwO?
frank zinc
@paper oriole I've made a very similar suggestion about different types of calls! Mine has a bit more detail on how the calls would be made ingame
stray cloak
@viral bear looks like a postosuchus. there still doesn't seem to be a consensus on whether it was bipedal or quadrupedal, but it would be cool to see either way.
viral bear
Close enough to a postosuchus, but it would still be cool, mainly because on the fact of the matter is that we only have a single confirmed quadruped and that’s the deino and can’t nearly gallop like pre/postosuchus and having them like with the ones in the 2009 turok would be amazing
stray cloak
dimetrodon or gorgonopsid maybe?
crimson phoenix
Dimet would get bodied, gorgon could work but would need a bit of a size buff
stray cloak
there just isn't much at all for predatory dinos. There's therapsids and crocodilomorphs,
but neither of those are dinos
they just don't seem to have evolved quadruped carnivores
sage helm
@sturdy perch Juvis shouldnt be chasing an ava at all so thats not a very good addition to your argument
But what type of terrain are you having difficulty with?
sturdy perch
I meant Utahs chasing Avas and just general hunting.
Mostly just rocks/branches on the ground tend to trip up a Rex, gotta go around them on occasion.
I havent had an issue with it yet ingame, but I imagine if I got stuck on something while running away from a predator it'd be pretty disappointing to die because of it
sage helm
Yea but
why recommend something for an issue that you havent had
I havent had it either
Do you mean adult utahs chasing?
sturdy perch
Pouncing/jumping tied to momentum for Utahs, and for larger Dinos like the Rex, the ability to do small jumps/high steps to get over rocks and whatnot.
I get blocked on rocks often in the woodland areas, I just havent been chased into them.
thorn wagon
“More ceratopsians” when we have 3, but only 1 therizinosaur
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twilit pewter
@thorn wagon tbf ava isn't a dino we can play in survival
thorn wagon
Is it seen in survival tho? 
twilit pewter
Also therizinosaurus is just a dinosaur, not a family
Theri already coming to survival one recode is out
thorn wagon
sage helm
Eh its gonna be a bit of a while once recode is out as well before it gets added
twilit pewter
Therizinosauria, you said therizinosaur XD
thorn wagon
First sentence of the paragraph
twilit pewter
Also cause theris seem to be herbi apex
sage helm
Deino said nothing wrong
Therizinosaurus would the dino
Therizinosaur would be a singular member of the family therizinosauria
twilit pewter
I wasn't saying they were wrong, they should suggest it then, I'm just suggesting the strya
crimson phoenix
as much as I like Styracosaurus more than trike, it would pretty much be trike. With dinos costing thousands of dollars to make and a large amount of time I would prefer they work on creatures that are more diverse (different from the current roster) before working on reskins or niche rivals
I feel about the same about carcha, except I like giga as a dinosaur more than carcha
wild rose
compact flicker
It'd be nice to have a inbetween ceratopsian like Styracosaurus. Looks distinct enuff. Something for further down the line 👍
ashen elm
We already have Styraco as a older model. So it probably wouldn't take as much money to make. However, I think people are right in saying it has a lot of overlap with already in-game ceratopsians.
lilac swallow
It would overlap a lot with current oversized diablo, but with trike like desecration said? Hell no
sage helm
And if dibbles getting that size nerf with a stat nerf as well we could use a new dibble sized ceratopsian
Pachyrhino would be cool too
BB ceratopsian
valid zephyr
Or styraco
white torrent
Yes. If we make others smol(cerato ) then Dibble must be smollened
native nebula
small potatoes
still temple
make diablo smol again 
pale prairie
make diablo small and replace current diablo with styraco
past valve
All hail ceratopsians
compact coyote
replace current diablo with pachyrhino
valid zephyr
if small dibble was kept then i'd be for adding pachyrhino/styraco
just don't delete small dibble.
fathom idol
I was so hyped to learn Styraco was coming to the Isle, just like Plateosaurus, and then....it never happened. Sad. Maybe it can be released as a skin later on for the Diablo or even the Sub trike.
valid zephyr
previously styraco was my fav, but then I discovered the little adorable murderpotatoes.
Styraco could go where dibble used to be if small dibble was a thing, though is it worth the effort to add a super similar dino?
lilac swallow
Dont know if is wortyh but i would love it
valid zephyr
in game dibble can take two allos (or three if they're pathetic)
smol dibble would be way weaker
sonic cloud
Maybe we can have something other than styraco?
Call me crazy but it’s in PK and PoT, and there’s plenty of other interesting ceratopsians the isle could add:
Nasutoceratops
Centrosaurus
Chasmosaurus
Tonnes of other ceratopsians we can have apart from the thing that’s already in two other games
mellow maple
Centrosaurus is unironically my favorite Ceratopsian
The diversity of dinosaurs, especially in the Ceratopsians is insane.
I think they're often overlooked
sonic cloud
I get centrosaurus is basically styraco without the frill horns, but there i have to say that centrosaurus has a really nice looking skull, far better than styracosaurus.
And really if that even mattered, I’m asking that we get a ceratopsian that’s isn’t styracosaurus, it’s in two other games we don’t need it in a third.
I don’t think diabloceratops even needs a size nerf, but lif it gets it can we please have anything other than styraco?
Literally tonnes of other styraco sized ceratopsians
pseudo falcon
@thorny lynxThe reason they can't make skins fade into each other is because of the colour selection system. Our best bet is to just use colours that sort of fade with each other anyways. They also reduced the skin texture quality because they were previously causing serious performance issues. Hence why none of the old skins still exist in game.
thorny lynx
They can increase the performance after the re ode since the code won't be spaghetti butt cheeks.
You can alpha blend and shadecolors with a brush.
pseudo falcon
yeah but you'd have to make it work with tones of different colour combinations which would be a tedious task,
pseudo falcon
I don't see why this wouldn't already exist if it was that simple
pseudo falcon
"fixed"
jovial moss
And the current code can't handle anything other than simple stats without exploding lmao
pseudo falcon
it's going to be a way bigger game, and likely only slightly better on performance if at all.
they said if you could run it before you can run it now, and it'll probably be a bit better
thorny lynx
You underestimate how much Deathly fucked us over in terms of optimization and quality.
pseudo falcon
but bare in mind this is before they've even finished making their maps
if the skins were a huge issue prior, I doubt they'll be any less of an issue post recode if they're given the quality they previously had
thorny lynx
I understand what you are trying to say, but I really have hopes for the devs being able to make the quality for the textures a lot better
jovial moss
My computer can run ARK better than it can run the isle, which has thousands upon thousands of colour options for hundreds of different dinos/animals, giant maps, and building software
pseudo falcon
Honestly I feel they'd be better off just making presets skins that already have the fade you're referring to.
thorny lynx
jovial moss
It's not about being impossible, it's just how shitty the current game's coding is
thorny lynx
You can literally choose any colors here and they would fafe
Blue and brown? Yup. Orange and green? Yup
pseudo falcon
yes, but the textures in that game are a lot lower rez than in the isle
thorny lynx
Excuse me those are nice textures