#general-feedback-discussion | The Isle Official Discord | Page 519

sterile egret Oct 10, 2019, 12:07 AM

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tbh, I agree, I don't like penalizing at all

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makes sense for malnutrition and dehydration

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but I still don't like the idea of penalizing the player even for bushcamping

lament kayak Oct 10, 2019, 4:36 AM

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k

paper oriole Oct 10, 2019, 5:48 AM

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lmao i like how you said 'feedback' like 6 times in the first half of your rambling

barren zephyr Oct 10, 2019, 6:52 AM

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Just gonna put here Wave talking about transparency.

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If you really echoed Wave, your message would be worded differently

nocturne sonnet Oct 10, 2019, 8:59 AM

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@warm current we get more small dinos herbs and carnies and omnis they wil be completly new to the isle

sage helm Oct 10, 2019, 10:58 AM

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Just gonna

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Pop this in here

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Cause of the earlier transparency discussion that I missed

barren zephyr Oct 10, 2019, 3:38 PM

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hi, why now there is just 2 map and not like before with desert etc.. ?

frank zinc Oct 10, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Grim Expanse [the desert map] was a mod, and modding has been broken/disabled for a while now.

viral creek Oct 10, 2019, 3:39 PM

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The desert and stuff were mods

craggy scarab Oct 10, 2019, 9:36 PM

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@haughty cliff the f call is only going to be 10-20 meter distance in recode

haughty cliff Oct 10, 2019, 9:38 PM

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that's really cool! It might be hard to differentiate chat though unless they're making a new call for it?

craggy scarab Oct 10, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Well it’s the same noise when you type in chat and your f call, with a couple variations currently

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Or are you asking for a “5th” call?

haughty cliff Oct 10, 2019, 9:39 PM

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a specific call for warnings

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otherwise if you're chatting it might get lost ofc

frank zinc Oct 10, 2019, 9:40 PM

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ooh feral you gave me an idea

haughty cliff Oct 10, 2019, 9:40 PM

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O NO

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(jokes) but it's good that the f-call will be shortened at least!

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if they don't make it so that herbivores can all group to chat, a warning call would be more useful

paper oriole Oct 10, 2019, 11:28 PM

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hp and damage buffs might be a little op

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the others could work tho

lilac swallow Oct 10, 2019, 11:29 PM

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And depends how Big are the speed buffs

paper oriole Oct 10, 2019, 11:29 PM

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maybe increases the growth rates of herd members, increases stamina gain form resting, combat buffs of 20% for a herd would be abused a ton though

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yeah the speed could also be abused

lilac swallow Oct 10, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Trike running at giga speed

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Imagine that

paper oriole Oct 10, 2019, 11:30 PM

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lol it would basically be a giga with bad bleed res tbh

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still tho would totally be abused

deep harbor Oct 11, 2019, 1:10 AM

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If I am in a fight, and I make the call 4, is the fight over?

frank zinc Oct 11, 2019, 1:13 AM

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Depends on the opponent and the situation. If I was attacking you because you were in my space or eating my food, I might back off if you 4 call. If I'm hunting you, a 4 call means nothing.

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Also depends on the server's rules. Official servers don't have rules about any calls afaik

deep harbor Oct 11, 2019, 1:15 AM

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I was asking why I was in a fight with a spino, I did the 4 several times and I left the area but he followed me and killed me

frank zinc Oct 11, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Guess he really wanted you dead

deep harbor Oct 11, 2019, 1:17 AM

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yes

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I mean that in that situation when using the call 4 is no use right? neither is it for report I imagine

frank zinc Oct 11, 2019, 1:19 AM

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If you think the spino was breaking server rules and you have clear evidence of them doing so, and you want to go through the hassle of reporting them, you could. I usually just move on.

deep harbor Oct 11, 2019, 1:21 AM

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no

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wait

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that is why I am asking,
In that situation, making the call 4 does not work?

frank zinc Oct 11, 2019, 1:21 AM

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4 call is just a call. Your dinosaur makes a sound, nothing else.

deep harbor Oct 11, 2019, 1:22 AM

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ohhh ok

frank zinc Oct 11, 2019, 1:22 AM

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We've tied that call as a sign of fear or submission, or backing down from a fight, but you're not required to listen to it

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also @brave viper
No, you cannot auto-run. Running drains stamina, which is something you need to keep an eye on to survive. You're not supposed to run everywhere.
And, yes, our maps our large and juveniles are small. If your friend is across the map and you dont think you can handle the journey, focus on yourself and grow until you're able to make that trip. V3, our larger map, should not take hours to travel. It will take hours to become a full-brown adult, though.

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And yes, the game is real

neat flicker Oct 11, 2019, 2:26 AM

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You can always have your friend nest you if you’re too lazy to walk anywhere in the map

warm current Oct 11, 2019, 11:22 AM

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@nocturne sonnet, thanks!
I hope it doesn't take too long. As a player and fan I'm looking forward to it.

nocturne sonnet Oct 11, 2019, 11:23 AM

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well i hope too but i think they will be maybe next year done

lilac swallow Oct 11, 2019, 2:14 PM

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@ionic comet bryan (the animator) said on last Stream he Will be redoing trike after rex so we can hope

valid flower Oct 11, 2019, 2:35 PM

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finally they r giving the trike some attention

paper oriole Oct 11, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Fake footsteps would be kinda icky since we're supposed to pay attention for real footsteps especially as smaller dinos who could get screwed over, if it's a part of neuro trickery it could be a good way to add some horror to that strain, as well as distorted mock calls

blazing charm Oct 11, 2019, 8:01 PM

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@valid flower That suggestion is incredibly vague, are you trying to say that dinosaurs should move slower depending on the amount of stamina they have left? Or are you suggesting some kind of visual indication that they are low on stamina?

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Because if it's lowering the speed, that's a terrible idea. Basically any animal with a low stamina pool is going to be picked on by literally everything. As for the visual cues, that could be really interesting for hunts imo.

rare axle Oct 11, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Yeah, I thought it could be cool, it's not really super necessary but

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it's just some kind of reward and a warning for other players

valid flower Oct 11, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Read my suggestion carefully

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I meant it as the lower the hp is, the slower and exhausted the dino should be

blazing charm Oct 11, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Oh, I kinda just got caught up on the "feel" thing.

valid flower Oct 11, 2019, 8:05 PM

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just an idea

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changed it to "be"

blazing charm Oct 11, 2019, 8:05 PM

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I still feel like that has some potential to snowball and make combat one-sided.

rare axle Oct 11, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Your suggestion make sense but, I think it would be annoying

valid flower Oct 11, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Thats the thing

blazing charm Oct 11, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Basically whoever gets the first hit in is already at an advantage, making the target slower or lose more stamina is just going to be super annoying to recover from.

valid flower Oct 11, 2019, 8:06 PM

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It makes survival more challenging.

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The game shouldnt be easy

rare axle Oct 11, 2019, 8:06 PM

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It does but it doesn't make the game more enjoyable to play

valid flower Oct 11, 2019, 8:06 PM

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which it is rn

blazing charm Oct 11, 2019, 8:06 PM

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I know it's been thrown around that bleed could lower stamina, and that works a bit better since that's more of a tracking thing, and in most cases isn't going to completely dick you over in combat.

rare axle Oct 11, 2019, 8:07 PM

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I like some realism stuff, but if it becomes too much it just become a negative thing for the gameplay

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my opinion at least

blazing charm Oct 11, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Difficuly is a good thing, but there's a fine line between fair difficult and challenge, and borderline sadism.

valid flower Oct 11, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Ye ik, again, it's just an idea.

barren zephyr Oct 11, 2019, 9:08 PM

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They had such a mechanic back in the day.
It was a very frustrating mechanic

valid flower Oct 11, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Did they? oof

tulip parrot Oct 11, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Your leg would break when your health got low. It was awful.

lament thorn Oct 12, 2019, 10:57 AM

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@barren zephyr could you write a little explanation of whats happening cause im struggling to read your hand writing

barren zephyr Oct 12, 2019, 10:59 AM

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you keep mouse pressed, if it's for example right button, tail loads to the right and can shoot to the left with high speed, at first does low dmg but more it goes the more dmg it does

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if you don't load it completely it won't do as much dmg

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with collision tail could get blocked so it's on one side only and can't be loaded fully

paper oriole Oct 12, 2019, 1:22 PM

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lol rex roars 'majestic'

still temple Oct 12, 2019, 1:55 PM

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that stego tail looks broken

indigo sun Oct 12, 2019, 2:10 PM

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@true mango theyre not making those playable until theyre finished and ready to be implemented. As for that growth thing, sounds like you'd better ask in #🔧-legacy-troubleshooting-🔧 they might be better equipped to help with that

true mango Oct 12, 2019, 2:12 PM

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thanks.

violet magnet Oct 12, 2019, 2:13 PM

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did you...type /grow, then hit Esc and click the grow button?

indigo sun Oct 12, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Oh yeah that might have something to do with that

true mango Oct 12, 2019, 2:16 PM

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yes, but it did not work

indigo sun Oct 12, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Huh

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Yeah #🔧-legacy-troubleshooting-🔧

paper oriole Oct 12, 2019, 3:27 PM

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A charge mechanic for trike, dibble, pachy, carno and maybe a couple others would be neat but making it just for dominance/territory infighting would be a waste of fhe mechanic imo

valid flower Oct 12, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Ye thats why I said "or any other reason."

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As in there is a lot of reasons why u would do that

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its a fun and badass combat mechanic

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that will make ceratops even more fun to play.

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Every dinosaur should have a unique play style.

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And the one I mentioned was for the trikes, thats how they lived, it was all about combat like this.

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Can also be used with carnos yeah.

paper oriole Oct 12, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Only being able to use it within species, as you mentioned diablo would only be able to do it on diablo, would be pretty lame though. An attack for these dinos which can be used outside of messing around with territory RP and actually be used to fend off against other species (predators in particular) would be better

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It seems like a pointless risk having a special mechanic to tussle with another trike just to leave yourself drained and vulnerable to the actual threats

valid flower Oct 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Your not forced to do it

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It's the trikes who decide whether they wanna do it or not

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Again its something thats fun, and badass

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And solves a lot of things

paper oriole Oct 12, 2019, 5:05 PM

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not sure what it would solve but i'm just saying it would be a waste of a mechanic that could be actually useful in defense, uusing it on others within your own species is aight but not being able to use it against threats makes 0 sense

valid flower Oct 12, 2019, 5:06 PM

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It does make sense tho, thats what trikes did

paper oriole Oct 12, 2019, 5:07 PM

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so they charged other trikes but when they saw an aggressive predator they were like "lol nah i'll just not charge at it i only do that to me mates"

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again im not complaining about the idea of trike infighting for their little dominance RP i just think it should be a thing to use on predators as well

valid flower Oct 12, 2019, 5:08 PM

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It can do

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I thought of a charge attack against a predator too

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being an ability

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instead of that shitty stomp we have now

paper oriole Oct 12, 2019, 5:09 PM

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yeah the stomp is big trash lol

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it two trikes used the charge on eachother maybe it could be a special but i think they should be able to charge at predators, same with pachy, carno, diablo, possibly maia

grand brook Oct 12, 2019, 5:12 PM

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It seems like the charge attack could be a mechanic useful for both scenarios, if we think of it as the ambush mechanic needing some time to charge it up you charge against other species to gore them severily more so than with the stomp, but if two trikes do it at the same time triggers an animation in which both animals push each other with a random chance of one of them loosing if both are at perfect health, if one of them is already hurt it will be the one to loose.

valid flower Oct 12, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Edited my suggestion

ripe horizon Oct 13, 2019, 1:52 AM

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@grand brook then it wouldnt be the best option to get to choose who leave rather have a charge, animation plays and whoever is able to rapidly press a certain button like left click wins or maybe a for honor like charge if you know that game anyway.

paper oriole Oct 13, 2019, 4:17 AM

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When you log back in on a dino the message pops up each time. you could log in on an active area and die because you arent able to close the rules screen that covers 75% of the page, that would be ass

lone ice Oct 13, 2019, 5:20 AM

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your dino wont actually appear until the screen is closed. Many ruled servers that would need this feature also have a spawning in protection rule, so it would be fine

valid flower Oct 13, 2019, 11:15 AM

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that’s why you hide somewhere safe and log.

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ur own fault if you die that way

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I’m talking between many trees and bushes or whatever

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Logging in the open or a position where u could get easily exposed is ur own fault

loud tapir Oct 13, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Honeybadger I'd rather see them make the growing process actually more fun and have the dinos be relevant even at the smaller stages than have them just reduce it, as for the apex growth timer I personally would like it to be longer with the current situation in mind where they are just so insanely strong compared to other dinos.

indigo sun Oct 13, 2019, 4:47 PM

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@barren zephyr theyre actually planning on adding redwoods to the map later on when they make custom assets for it. I agree with the beaches thing though, feels kinda bland in beaches
And @left storm we've seen some plains and tall grass in one of dondi's streams so i expect that'll be in the new map too

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 2:02 AM

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red fog in the sky is kinda dumb, but being able to smell the blood dripping from dinos who have made a kill for a time unless they get it off with water would be aight

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the scent clouds is a bit much

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also quests dondiSquint

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 2:08 AM

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That's just an idea to give scent more interest

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And I said IF there is many corpses around an area

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 2:11 AM

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if there were red clouds over distant corpses, which would be kinda ehh, only scavengers should have it

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cerato, herrera, those kind of guys

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 2:11 AM

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What do you mean?

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And I didn't say clouds anyway

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Just some kind of light red fog in the distance over an area

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 2:13 AM

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same thing really

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Idc about how it would look like

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If you don't like clouds and fog fine

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But would be cool if we can smell these things

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From what dondi said, the map will be at least twice the size we have on v3 right now, I'm basically trying to find things that could force player interactions

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And not wasting food I guess

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 2:20 AM

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unlike the current map, the new one will have a big chunk of it taken up by water.
i do think it would be good if scavenger predators could smell corpses and carnage from a greater distance though, idk about red mist maybe just being able to smell the pools of blood and corpses as it currently is but further, similar to herbis smelling bushes. as far as sites of large fights with many bodies it would be cool if flocks of carrion birds or something gathered and could be heard or seen in the sky, the island feels dead aside from the current dinosaurs

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just my opinion tho

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 2:22 AM

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I just dislike what we have for smelling food right now

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I'm kinda trying to image the scent

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The fog seemed right

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 2:22 AM

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single large dead animals or multiple bodies could attract carrion birds or some other shit that could be tracked down or avoided by any

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i have that we can't smell normal bodies yeah, i think they should be scentable like gore, and scavengers should be able to smell them from a great distance

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Yeah I thought about giving each dinosaurs different scent capabilities

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But idk

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Could add that I guess

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 2:24 AM

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the scent trail for stinky/bloody dinosaurs is fine i think, using water to wash it off which would also give deino some more activity

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deino could smell blood in the water

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Yeah and they will have ppls coming into lakes, they won't avoid them because of deino anymore

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Give them a reason to come and risk things

hoary ocean Oct 14, 2019, 2:25 AM

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just simple advice, create a document and provide picture references to give people a better understanding, could also add brief description below them

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like the idea though

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Eh I'm bad with this

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 2:26 AM

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yeah wouldnt want peopel avoiding large bodies of water because of deino they would have a choice to take a risk between being easier to track on land or risking being seen by deino

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when i saw scent trails on the latter part i imagined like the scent trails in witcher 3, not sure if that's what you had in mind

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Yeah, it's like : you don't want to be easy to track? Fine, but then you take some risk and might face some mean crocodiles

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Yes, and rdr 2

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Something like that

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Just harder to follow or it would be broken

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 2:27 AM

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yeah def harder to follow lol

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blood is still dripped on the ground though, i think blood trails should last a little longer depenging on the bleed the dino has

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a little bleed will leave a short lasting trail because only a bit is dripping off, serious bleed will leave more which lasts longer

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encouraging injured dinos to wash it off

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 2:28 AM

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But anyway, I basically want scent to be more based on smell

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And not tracks

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Tracks could be use for something else idk

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 2:30 AM

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tracks and blood puddles could be the basic for everybody, dinos with better scent could see more

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dinos based on endurance hunting and scavenging

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Yeah, could be cool too

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Could you just react with one emote under the suggestion tho? Looks like a lot of ppls are trying to say something but it's just you lmao

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 2:32 AM

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o ok lol

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i'll just keep two :>

crimson phoenix Oct 14, 2019, 2:51 AM

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I like the red fog concept. Maybe it could be birds (or pterosaurs) circling in the sky as a more realistic counterpart

frank zinc Oct 14, 2019, 3:04 AM

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^ I'd love to see a small pterosaur as AI, similar to how Velo is rn. They spawn in groups and circle around / scavenge off food.

indigo sun Oct 14, 2019, 7:23 AM

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@thorn night ptera is literally the size of a dryo, it's not taking more than an hour to grow and a sub stage feels kinda dumb for something that can pretty much only eat ai and the occasional really dumbass baby who wandered too far from mama and got lost. I also doubt flying is going to be incredibly skill based, though it will require learning, and something like a sub stage should be for a quetz, but no sub stage should have quests. It's just a bad idea. Ptera would likely be starting to fly kind of okay as a juvi and "learn" (not really learning just like, survivng and not dying until you reach adult), to fly over time through that life stage allowing it to fly better in its adult stage. People arent gonna play ptera a ton anyway after the first week or two, so there's no real reason to limit it. It'll be popular for a bit, then it'll become something a few people love while the rest go back to their other favorite dinosaurs that can actually hunt or fight.

formal vine Oct 14, 2019, 10:35 AM

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@flat galleon Raptor rock was horrible. It was Utahs 3 calling stuff and taunting under the protection of a rock without even getting down to fight, it was also used as a horrible escape when utah is basically very fast and doesn't need such an area.
Considering a utahraptor in this game is an active cathermal pack hunter expending minimal energy, a good utah pack will not AFK sit on a rock and do nothing, instead they would roam vast areas looking for prey.
Well sure, 'action and pvp' if you wanna see 20 utahs just sitting and get 3 called at and taunted at. The action that plays near the rock is nothing but utahs ambush running, mock biting, and jumping over stuff. You'd be better off with twins lake, as its more thrilling because of the 'you're not safe' gimmick and that there is no place there with ensured safety. If you want to see panic and action and people, head over to twins lake, titan lake, or even hidden lake where herbivores gather in numerous amounts.

grand brook Oct 14, 2019, 10:46 AM

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"utahraptor in this game is an active cathermal pack hunter expending minimal energy" meanwhile at docks

flat galleon Oct 14, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Yes they were afk mostly in the rock but it was still place where you had almost 100% chance to get good fight with other dinos. It gets really frustrating to try find someone for hours. I rarely play utah myself.

formal vine Oct 14, 2019, 11:02 AM

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Zorr, what I meant was utahs are MEANT to be active cathermal pack hunter. Add raptor rock and thats basically the new docktahs. Might as well call them Rocktahs after adding it.
Chimm you can try to head on to twins as I said. Its crazy popular. Hidden lake has a lot of herbis too.

flat galleon Oct 14, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Ive been there multiple times. I wouldnt say crazy popular.

formal vine Oct 14, 2019, 11:11 AM

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Twins is basically the place you'll find most people.

north sentinel Oct 14, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Some places on EU1 you kinda have to avoid because of mixpackers and revenge killing

formal vine Oct 14, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Raptor rock wont change much with mixpacking.

north sentinel Oct 14, 2019, 11:16 AM

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dont think I remember any mixpacking around RR

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people just hide now and you rarely see anyone willing to pvp if you ever cross paths with them

flat galleon Oct 14, 2019, 11:19 AM

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^

wicked ivy Oct 14, 2019, 11:19 AM

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true , after raptor rock got deleted it might take even days to find a proper fight

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like on my last dino it took me 5 days to find 1 rex to battle with

vague vault Oct 14, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Definitely no mixpacking at RR. Sure there were players who use to like to nest and RP and stuff on the rock, but most dinos looking for fights at the time always came to RR

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It was fun

north sentinel Oct 14, 2019, 11:20 AM

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there hasn't really been a solid hot spot for pvp and so on since RR which is kinda sad

wicked ivy Oct 14, 2019, 11:20 AM

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make raptor rock where you cant make nests. maybe it would change things?

vague vault Oct 14, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Sure, but with or without nests ye going to just get players camping there all day anyway which is a shame

wicked ivy Oct 14, 2019, 11:21 AM

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true

vague vault Oct 14, 2019, 11:21 AM

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thats what annoys me when I see a large group of Utahs up on crates not roaming or willing to fight

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Taking up space if ye ask me

wicked ivy Oct 14, 2019, 11:21 AM

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+1 to that 😄

vague vault Oct 14, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Ive always been in a good roaming pack, Id get so bored sitting around spamming 1 call and doing nothing

indigo sun Oct 14, 2019, 11:40 AM

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@outer mauve

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outer mauve Oct 14, 2019, 11:42 AM

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Gotcha

valid zephyr Oct 14, 2019, 11:53 AM

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@flat galleon I agree with that one, as long as it had a few changes. The rock was a real centre of action even if you weren't a utah, and meant you didn't have to walk around for hours and not see anyone.

Add edible plants near the rock, to encourage pachys, gallis, and dryos to compete for the rock.
Add dilo jump (which is confirmed anyway) to allow it to compete for the rock.

Those ensure the utahs aren't untouchable up there.

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Dilo jump is not really confirmed, fos just said he agreed that he could be able to jump

valid zephyr Oct 14, 2019, 11:56 AM

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I hope it gets properly confirmed. Utahs shouldn't be untouchable on rocks.

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 11:59 AM

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If you don't allow them to jump on rocks anymore to be safe, you would have to buff their survival features a lot

valid zephyr Oct 14, 2019, 12:00 PM

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They would still be safe from most things, just not other small tiers. Utahs already trade pretty well with dilos.

rare axle Oct 14, 2019, 12:01 PM

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True I guess. I don't know

wintry cipher Oct 14, 2019, 12:54 PM

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You'd be underestimating Utah a lot if your unaware of what it can survive. The only things that outrun it are carno, galli, Maia, and dilo (with ambush) ATM. Most everything else you can escape at a base run. With that in mind, Maia takes a pretty sizeable pack to take down even a solo individual, so if you are a small pack of average players that thing is your worst nightmare, and moreso in pairs or more. The rest can be dealt with solo decently confidently. So, rocks might be a good advantage to have for a lookout point or a spot to grow the last half hour before adult, but they aren't really required to survive unless you are a solo Utah and maias are decently popular. Otherwise you're just fucked.

grand brook Oct 14, 2019, 1:15 PM

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"what I meant was utahs are MEANT to be active cathermal pack hunter" I was just pointing out how this places make utahs into absolute bastardizations of what they are supossed to be

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I actually wish they would nomadic and move from place to place instead of staying in just a place eating only ai and RPing

mellow maple Oct 14, 2019, 7:47 PM

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@paper oriole They're not technically dinosaurs, they ARE dinosaurs 😉

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They're no less a theropod than Velo or Rex

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In any case, yes, let's have some birds pls

paper oriole Oct 14, 2019, 7:48 PM

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bring the BIRBS

gritty arrow Oct 15, 2019, 12:18 AM

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speaking of birds

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mabey there could be a bird who cleans deinos teeth like in real life .

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also i feel like birds could also land on suropods and certopsains and paras some times to get food from them .

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like they do to hippos and rinos and elephants

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iv also seen birds on horses some times .

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 12:52 AM

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birds landing on deino to peck its teeth would be cool, the same birds who land on big dinos while they rest to munch on their dead skin maybe. just a more lively ecosystem in general

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yeah birds land on animals to eat mites and dead skin n shit

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 10:58 AM

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But i don't know how they could work in game

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There aren't parasites and stuff.

civic sky Oct 15, 2019, 3:08 PM

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@echo bridge I agree, honestly, the so called "ambush mechanic" is more of a "let me catch this thing that's running away" or "combat speed buff" mechanic. At least that's how most use it.

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:09 PM

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And then others use it as escape because it's so cheap and inexpensive to use

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All fights just boil down to crouch fests and I hate it

civic sky Oct 15, 2019, 3:10 PM

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It especially sucks for the herbs who are meant to run away, can't really do that with the way the mech is atm. I'm sure it'll change later but right now it's pretty terrible.

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:10 PM

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Yeah, I hope they implement some buffer for it

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This type of suggestion ends up here a lot but I feel like if someone were to put time to actually make a list of how it would be balanced per carni, then it would garner more attention

civic sky Oct 15, 2019, 3:12 PM

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yeah, you did well to present a possible solution which is a far bigger step then simply, "nerf ambush speed"

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:12 PM

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My though process in general is the worse the ambush and the smaller the creature, the less expensive it is

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Why carno obviously has no ambush so it doesn't have to worry

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But ceratos should use the least stam

civic sky Oct 15, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Honestly, the only ambush that's even remotely balanced is rex imo

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Its barely even there

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Yup, because rexes stam is actually valuable

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Unlike everything else

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Monster dilo gets venom spit

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Normal dilo having blood thinner is fine

sage helm Oct 15, 2019, 3:14 PM

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^

somber wraith Oct 15, 2019, 3:14 PM

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You spelt it right

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Rexes should definitely be the most expensive ambush imo

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Which currently it is

viral creek Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Ye.

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Rex's ambush speed is no joke.

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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But with a rebalanced ambush stam cost, 70% sounds fine to me

viral creek Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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anky

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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do u guys think

viral creek Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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stego

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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cooldowns should be added to ambushes?

viral creek Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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not in survival yet though

sage helm Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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No

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Not cooldowns

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Hard coding a cooldown is too artificial

civic sky Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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i wonder if it's possible to make all carnivores stam drain quite a bit like rex's does with some variations of course, so a utah doesn't die out as quickly as rex but the ambush still costs it greatly if it missed.

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Just make it stam costly

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Simple and effective

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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problem with stam costly is its still possible for the allo to do another ambush

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Cant spam ambush if your gas runs out

viral creek Oct 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Let him do another ambush

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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2 is a lot better than 8

viral creek Oct 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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then he'll be a sitting duck with 0 stam

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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And consequentially die

sage helm Oct 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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^

jovial moss Oct 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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an allo with 0 stam is in the range of getting killed by a pachy lol I'd prefer it be dumb and lose all its stam

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Running out of stam in a fight is lethal

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That's why this would stop ambush spam at the core

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It literally tells you it's a one and done

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Do it again

civic sky Oct 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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i could live with two ambush attempts without resting but so long as it can't be activated back to back. Though at that point the carni might as well lay down and rest before pursuing any further

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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And you lose

simple wagon Oct 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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I pref nerfing the ambush with cooldown ?

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Exactly

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It's more intelligent to only use one and rest

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Than 2 and leave yourself open

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Imagine being a rex fighting a trike

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You ambush once an uses remaining stam to manuever

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Ambush twice

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Good luck winning now

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Trike just maneuvers to your ass and you cant get it off

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Ez pz

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Ded rex

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Ambush spam would literally kill you if it were as costly as I propose

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Which is good

sage helm Oct 15, 2019, 3:19 PM

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But

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Why

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Why do we need that

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This aint mario

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I mean maybe lightly pressing it gives a smaller jump

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But not holding down for a super jump

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But no

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I mean they already have the highest jump in game

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:21 PM

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That's what jumping already does

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Why make it more complicated

sage helm Oct 15, 2019, 3:21 PM

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^

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:21 PM

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what about allo vs cerato

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Cerato uses 33% stam per ambush

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Because its practically nonexistent

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:21 PM

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if allo uses all its stam and cera is bleeding cant allo just follow irt

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Allo uses 50-60%

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So it can only use its god tier ambush once

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:22 PM

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i mean thats if it uses all the stam

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it doesnt have to use all the stam

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Use it twice and it's doomed

somber wraith Oct 15, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Allo ambush is like the best one in the game

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:23 PM

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It could be 70% but that's putting it on the same caliber as rex

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:23 PM

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i mean

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its ambush is amazing

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Also, running out of stam cuts off the ambush

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So you dont get full ambush time

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:23 PM

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u wont need full ambush time to catch a cerato again

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:24 PM

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Depends how far it is

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Cerato doesnt even need ambush to escape allo

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Allo misses the first one

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:24 PM

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tbh an ambush time nerf would be nice

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:24 PM

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It has to make a choice

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:24 PM

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allos lasts to long

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:24 PM

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Do another one and risk being killed by the cerato when you run dry

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Or stop

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And find another opportunity

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:25 PM

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if more of them were just above rexes ambush time it would make sense

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Imo allos ambush should be 9 seconds

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Not 12

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:26 PM

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im thinking more like 7ish

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Rex's is 6

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:26 PM

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cerato is 7 right?

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:26 PM

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6

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:26 PM

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sucho is also 7 i think

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Allo can be 9

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It's fine with a good ambush, just make it the mostly costly of all of the mid tiers

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:27 PM

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ambush is short bursts of speed

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6 is nice for most of the roster

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:27 PM

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Eh

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Depends what you are catching

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:27 PM

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u need to sneak up on prey

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:27 PM

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Nothing can make distance on a maia in 6 seconds unless you're a body length away

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:28 PM

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thats if the maia is aware

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if the maia is aware before u ambush it should have a chance to get away right?

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Well yeah

sacred wyvern Oct 15, 2019, 3:28 PM

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i got pinged

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idk where

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 3:29 PM

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We prob shouldn't talk about it in here, kinda off suggestion

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Imo

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But I somewhat agree

valid zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Giving dryo ambush could actually be quite a good idea. It's not going to use to to murder anything, and it's a potential balancing factor when herrera arrives on the scene.

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Kind of like a pheasant bursting out of the undergrowth when a predator gets close.

sage helm Oct 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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I personally disagree with giving it ambush

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But I do like boas suggestion

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Ambush is meant to chase and well... Ambush

viral creek Oct 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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I don't think dryo should have ambush, give it something else

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Like a pheasant dosen't fuccin squat for 5 seconds before running when it sees a predator lol

sage helm Oct 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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^

valid zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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It does though. They crouch down really low in the bush when they hear danger, and if it gets super close they bolt.

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Ambush is meant to chase but carnis still use it to flee.

lilac swallow Oct 15, 2019, 5:14 PM

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And that simply shouldnt happen

sage helm Oct 15, 2019, 5:18 PM

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I guess

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But it should only be possible if a carni is near

loud tapir Oct 15, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Not even putting in effort to write a real suggestion, smh

normal fern Oct 15, 2019, 6:36 PM

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or you know wait until Herrera is in survival and see what it's stats are like before you suggest giving a herbivore an ambush when it doesn't actually need it

safe galleon Oct 15, 2019, 6:56 PM

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speedy boi needs more speed

echo bridge Oct 15, 2019, 7:27 PM

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I like the poison idea but it also is so out of left field that I dont know how to react to it

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:35 PM

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understandable lol

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lol the salty remark at the end of that malnourishment suggestion

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:36 PM

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😄

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:36 PM

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i mean it's true but lol

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:36 PM

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i try to be honest

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:36 PM

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i do think malnourished dinos should be visible tho

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:37 PM

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i think the fungi/poison suggestion should be immplemented, but i worried about how the dammage will scale

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and maybe if an antidote fungus was introduced then... carni's could just camp that

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:38 PM

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yea i'm not quite sure how to go about it, perhaps it could be a percentage of the animal's base damage

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:38 PM

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true, like, juvi para - 5% and juvi utah 2.5%?

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:38 PM

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the poison effect could have its healing sped up by washing it off in water

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:38 PM

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also, i'm surrounded by carnos rn. oof me

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:38 PM

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rip

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:39 PM

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i think the water would work, but the healing would be better in clear water?

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:39 PM

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yeah, perhaps the poison would be less effective in rain too

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:39 PM

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speaking of rain

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:40 PM

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and the buff wouldnt last as long on the animals who have it equipped

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:40 PM

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should seasons be integrated?

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:40 PM

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yeees

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:40 PM

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like, rn its winter right?

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:40 PM

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ive seen a few good suggestions on seasons

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:40 PM

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so food goes down faster, it rains more/ it might actually snow/ themed maps?

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:40 PM

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mainly dry season, wet season suggestions

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:40 PM

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if its summer

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herbi food is easier to find, it rains less?

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:41 PM

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bushes would be less common during dry season, other plants and grazing would be more common

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:42 PM

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well...lets think about that....

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the game is set in modern times right?

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:43 PM

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yea

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i'd think of the climate as similar to some african climates in the savannah, or south america

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:43 PM

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so dry/wet seasons are hard climates to find here, ket alone a tropical one

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although it is on an island....

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 7:43 PM

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not quite sure where the isle is placed lorewise

barren zephyr Oct 15, 2019, 7:44 PM

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same here

indigo sun Oct 15, 2019, 8:06 PM

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@scenic jay try alt turning to get off that ledge

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@fierce geyser

📎 20190727_205130.png

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If you dont know how to alt turn, stand still, hold down alt, and turn your dinosaur

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If you chose not to play on an alt turn server, accept that you've lost your dino and find a better server

fierce geyser Oct 15, 2019, 8:12 PM

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ooops

indigo sun Oct 15, 2019, 8:13 PM

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@craggy scarab uhh #general-feedback figured i'd let ya know

grim lantern Oct 15, 2019, 8:14 PM

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narc

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😠

indigo sun Oct 15, 2019, 8:16 PM

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they would've seen it anyway and i like #general-feedback to be a clean channel

grim lantern Oct 15, 2019, 8:17 PM

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narc

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😭

fervent finch Oct 15, 2019, 8:17 PM

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snitches get stitches

scenic jay Oct 15, 2019, 8:20 PM

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can juve rexes alt

jovial moss Oct 15, 2019, 8:21 PM

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yes

indigo sun Oct 15, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Yes

scenic jay Oct 15, 2019, 8:21 PM

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oop

indigo sun Oct 15, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Everything can alt turn

jovial moss Oct 15, 2019, 8:21 PM

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but if you're not on an official server, the admins might not have it enabled

scenic jay Oct 15, 2019, 8:21 PM

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they havent i think

craggy scarab Oct 15, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Thanks 👏🏻

grim lantern Oct 15, 2019, 8:36 PM

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lfaw has it dissabled

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it sucks

craggy scarab Oct 15, 2019, 8:40 PM

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@grim lantern, @fervent finch suggestions is not the place for demands, shitposting, or trolling. Read the channel description. This is your only warning.

grim lantern Oct 15, 2019, 8:43 PM

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why did you delete my suggestion?!

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it was serious

paper oriole Oct 15, 2019, 8:44 PM

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rip

craggy scarab Oct 15, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Has nothing to do with the game. No channel is appropriate for demanding strikes be removed

indigo sun Oct 15, 2019, 11:34 PM

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@timid cedar according to foszor on the nest invites thing, nesting wont be like that in the future, it's not gonna be random nest invites anymore

timid cedar Oct 15, 2019, 11:34 PM

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o

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what a relief

indigo sun Oct 15, 2019, 11:36 PM

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as for the mixed group herbivores, they used to have that but it was removed apparently because it was one of those things that made it too easy for herbivores to destroy carnivores

wintry cipher Oct 15, 2019, 11:50 PM

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@barren zephyr Might actually be better if you still gave the same food, but had lower combat stats as you are weaker and less healthy when you are dehydrated/starving. This would emphasize competition for food to ensure that you looked healthy and thus were less likely to be preyed upon by predators; like in real life. There's a reason they go for the weaker prey. It would also reward those who tend to their dino well and punish those who don't.

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:44 AM

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@long heath i like you suggestion but one thing, i think it should only give a reduction in stam loss and a damage reduction, along the lines of "you lose stam 50% slower and take 50% less damage" or something

valid zephyr Oct 16, 2019, 2:04 PM

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I agree with most of that except some of the giga movement stuff.

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I think that gigas high trot speed and great stam regen give it a really good role as an endurance hunter.

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Which makes it a lot more different from the rex.

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It does need a big bite damage nerf though as outright facetanking shouldn't be what it's good at.

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:26 PM

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giga is no a face tanker tho?

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to a trike dose the same damage

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as said trike

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the giga movement buff is also at the cost of weight/health

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:28 PM

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I personally find issue with the trot speed and regen because whether it makes giga unique or not, it completely oppresses mid tier balance much harder than any apex does

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:28 PM

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yeah

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:29 PM

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If dondi even has an issue with current giga to the point where he wants to redo it, I think the best way to tackle it to take away those defining traits and give it something else

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:29 PM

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and the rex and giga wont have a similar role as giga would be able to play keep away with the high bleed

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Glass cannon bleeder is also very different from what rex is

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:30 PM

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but if the hypers are something like what we getting then giga just gonna be slow as hell

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Rex seals fights quick and clean with bb and high raw dmg, my giga is frail enough to not want to facetank but goes in once or twice and is able to pressure apexes with bleed

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But be at risk of taking big damage itself

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While also not being fast enough to where a mid tiers entire viability is based on how it fares against giga

lilac swallow Oct 16, 2019, 3:31 PM

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I dont know how the sauropod Hunter Will hunt sauropods without endurance

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:31 PM

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if the giga ambushes the rex and bites 3-4 times its all over, am i correct?

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:31 PM

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It's not hard to keep up with a sauropod

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You can also just back out, get your stam back, and go back in

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:32 PM

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wait isnt the stam staying the same in the suggestion?

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Yeah

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:32 PM

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ok

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Gigas stam stays at 50 seconds

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The sit regen stays the same

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:32 PM

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then what was legendary's response then?

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Nerf trot speed to just above rex trot and nerf trot stamina regen

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Keep the ambush max speed and length the same

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I think it peaks at like 39?

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But lasts longer than rexes

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:34 PM

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i would say 40km but not much of a difference i just prefer rounded numbers

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Then the major part, nerfing the hp of this glass cannon so it cant take on too many individuals at once

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:34 PM

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i hate seeing 39.8km or something like that

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Which allows mid tiers to not only have a greater chance of escape

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But also be able to fight a giga off in great enough numbers

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In trade for more power in the apex matchup

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:35 PM

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well 6,450 weight and 5,000 health?

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Depends on where sucho(and maybe acro) sit

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:35 PM

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rex 5 shots

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Imo 3 suchos should be able to defend against a solo giga, so 5k sounds nice

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Giga 2 shots with bleed

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Has superior speed

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

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yeah

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Just dont get hit

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Which is easier to do with a packmate

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

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not a brawler like it is now

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Giga is still balanced in the apex matchup, but is slow enough to where it doesnt abuse mid tiers

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

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yeah

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i think giga with high speed and bleed for apex is good and rex with high damage and bb chance along with spino i think should have the best health and healing stats

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also dose rex still have percentage based damage?

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:38 PM

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No

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That got removed

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:38 PM

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ah good

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Replaced by generally super high raw dmg

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:38 PM

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yes

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Because the % thing caused dmg delay

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:39 PM

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i know bb dose more damage then normal bite

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Bb on proc does 10% of your health

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Which is fine

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Rex having brawler advantages is fine

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:40 PM

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bc rex do 1,000 damage to another rex base and bb do 1,200

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:40 PM

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My Giga is still hit and run based and wont stay in long enough to worry about it

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If you know what you are doing

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:40 PM

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yeah i like the hit and run giga idea

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:40 PM

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And spino just outranges rex with hands

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So it's still balanced

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Not rock paper scissors either as far as I can tell

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:41 PM

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spino needs a small damage buff with a small speed nerf in my eyes

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like 350N and if rex gets 31km spino should also get the same

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but have a ambush of like 39-40

echo bridge Oct 16, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Eh I dont really think we should try and balance spino before it's even in yet

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That sounds like extra work

slender spindle Oct 16, 2019, 3:43 PM

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yeah i like to think about it tho

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an i mean think of it as like what the gigas doing but for spino

barren zephyr Oct 16, 2019, 6:44 PM

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@fleet cipher i would love for that to be added

tulip parrot Oct 16, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Locational scars hopefully what with the locational damage.

barren zephyr Oct 16, 2019, 6:46 PM

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hopefully

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 8:44 PM

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lmao what even is that suggestion

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 8:46 PM

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It started out as Touch to seduce female and then it turned into like, giga shark

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 8:48 PM

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lmfao

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safari tours in the isle

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not that i'd complain bout the free food aka unarmed humans

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this guy is on a roll

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 8:49 PM

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There wouldnt be safaris

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Its not a wildlife park

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 8:49 PM

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why would a dino save a human

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eat the humans

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 8:50 PM

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I aint savin people no matter what i am ill just kill them

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 8:50 PM

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slap human against tree to get some fruit to fall that should be a mechanic

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anky launching a human like a ranged weapon

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 8:55 PM

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/punt human

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 8:55 PM

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OH NOOO

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another poo poo suggestion

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does he want there to be a mechanic to coat ourselve sin piss

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Lord have mercy on us

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 8:57 PM

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dying rn

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 8:57 PM

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No piss no shit no human safaris hybrids arent possible through natural breeding so fucking no

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Do they know what game this is?

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 8:58 PM

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idk why but his username just makes it better

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 8:58 PM

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"Centuries"

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...movies havent even been around for centuries

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 8:59 PM

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@barren zephyr

excuse me sir but what

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 8:59 PM

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This is a real bruh moment.

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Its like someone put together all the worst suggestions at once. I didnt think it was possible

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 9:00 PM

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what a work of art

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Right up there with the playable rock 😉

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:01 PM

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I had reasons trevor!

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I had reasons

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 9:01 PM

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was there a serious suggestion for playable rock

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 9:01 PM

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dondiLUL

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Excuse me the what

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:01 PM

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...yes

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 9:02 PM

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bruh

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Explain your reasoning.

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:02 PM

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It had more than "jurassic park cause its cool"

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Hold on i'll get what i said yesterday about it

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 9:02 PM

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unless it was a playable rock that sucks up utahs

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:02 PM

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I'm genuinely curious about this now.

modern sandal Oct 16, 2019, 9:02 PM

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I heard playable rock

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:02 PM

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It would be a reward for super high affinity if you didnt give a shit about strains or were a herbi, you choose where to spawn and you get to just relax for a few minutes, its limited to five minutes. You get to watch the world around you and if anyone else got high enough affinity and chose to be a rock they could have the option to stack themself on top of your rock and people could continue to do so up to like 10, forming little rock stacks. I know it sounds really fucking stupid but i was being serious about this and no one would believe i wasnt joking

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Like, I wanna see if it's possible to make a playable rock appealing.

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So

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 9:03 PM

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lmfao

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:03 PM

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It's like a spectator cam?

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Souretsu deleted my suggestion and refused to believe me

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Well, you have our attention so lets discuss this.

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 9:03 PM

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You’re welcome dondiLUL

wheat igloo Oct 16, 2019, 9:03 PM

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oh my god

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Wait, what would happen if a dinosaur found the rock stack?

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Could it just knock it over and end the feed?

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Its like a spectator cam kinda, it doesnt even require much just like, a rock model. No controls beyond moving the camera, no noises. You just get to see stuff around you for a bit and relax.
The rocks can be balanced on by little things but big things knocking them over leaves the rocks open to being used for more stacks. Like, more rocks stacked around

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Would you be able to chose where the rock spawns?

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Yeah

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:06 PM

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See

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right there, that's a problem.

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Its like sections of the map though, not a specific area

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Even if it's just for five minutes, that's five minutes where you can tell someone via messages-

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Ah.

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 9:06 PM

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in before a rex is jailed by rock stacks

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Well, even then if it happened to spawn near a hotspot

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You can get people abusing the shit out of the omnipotent rocks

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Could limit it to a minute

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Then what would be the point?

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:07 PM

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That was what it was originally

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Might I propose my own version of this idea?

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Go ahead

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Security camera feeds that can be tuned in, said cameras are only in specific spots and give off a visusal and audio cue that someone is currently watching the feed.

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So in theory, you can have your relaxing layabout, but people will atleast be able to avoid getting ghosted by...

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fucking, rocks

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Which I think in the earlier days they were interested in

mental sleet Oct 16, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Jaffad

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:09 PM

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I like that better

mental sleet Oct 16, 2019, 9:09 PM

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a server had something like this already on a stream

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I recall them having a ''cam'' stream

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:09 PM

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I remember that.

mental sleet Oct 16, 2019, 9:09 PM

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though that one could be used for stream sniping

indigo sun Oct 16, 2019, 9:09 PM

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I still like the rock stack thingy. Maybe it could be done some other way

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Better would be a website where it’s a picture every minute or 5 minutes

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:10 PM

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You could also have it so that CCTV monitored areas have certain resources, still incentivising people to go there, but not stick around for long.

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Oh, that's good.

crystal trail Oct 16, 2019, 9:10 PM

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reminds me of when a certain group of players used velos as security cameras in progression on region 2.

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Fuck, I forgot about that.

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The Velos of Gondor

crystal trail Oct 16, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Lmfao

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Hence it being a still image every minute or few minutes

blazing charm Oct 16, 2019, 9:11 PM

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What about an alarm system-

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Actually no

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I just had Monstrum PTSD

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Damn, this security camera thing has me interested.

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At the very least, I'd like to see humans be able to access some kind of in-game CCTV, even if it's just for human structures.

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Or let’s say it does record but it plays back on a delay

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Then can’t use it for live sniping/info

craggy scarab Oct 16, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Maybe bubblegum won’t defend their posts

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 9:41 PM

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he's probably too drunk to

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heh he thinks giga's got it bad, trike has to listen to that stomping x2

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local muffling would be nice tho

wispy tusk Oct 16, 2019, 9:46 PM

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oof the only reason that i havent heard trike stomps is that i've never successfully grown a trike dondiLUL

paper oriole Oct 16, 2019, 9:48 PM

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i usually die during sub lmao i dont try trike often

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but when i do, those foot stomps... dying in sub stage is a mercy

fleet cipher Oct 16, 2019, 10:04 PM

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huh

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didn't think I'd get so many likes for that suggestion

paper oriole Oct 17, 2019, 12:56 AM

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ay i had the same idea

📎 untitled_drawing_by_albaharmamar_ddhn00h-pre.png

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as far as allo goes though, he's already getting a grapple mechanic

dapper mirage Oct 17, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Now this is a suggestion I support.

violet magnet Oct 17, 2019, 3:34 AM

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who said apex stomps need to be louder

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boi

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have u PLAYED apex

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they cause small earthquakes with every step u wanna crank that up to a magnitude 7?

barren zephyr Oct 17, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Yass

long heath Oct 17, 2019, 5:23 AM

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See, that's PLAYING Apex, meaning your camera is just behind the creature itself. So of course it sounds loud, but say you're a couple 15-20 feet away they're unusually silent. I feel like adding a faint boom sound every time a large creature takes a step would build to the suspense simply because A. You don't know where it is or B. You know you're aboutta be fucked.

slender spindle Oct 17, 2019, 5:25 AM

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have you ever been a small dino a heard a giga walking over a mountain across the vally from you? its loud

long heath Oct 17, 2019, 5:26 AM

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If it's "across the valley" then I doubt all I'd hear is the Giga if it throws out any vocal.

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They don't need to be ridiculously loud, it'd just be a nice touch if footsteps had some kind of "echo" to them.

slender spindle Oct 17, 2019, 5:26 AM

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i mean stomping

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its loud

long heath Oct 17, 2019, 5:26 AM

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A giga running up a mountain is both the funniest shit I've heard of and the dumbest.

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It's not about sprinting, yeah that's loud.

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It's the footsteps.

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They don't have to be loud like I said.

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Just some sort of ominous warning if you listen carefully enough.

slender spindle Oct 17, 2019, 5:28 AM

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i feel like the apexes are too slow for that

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the hypers have it tho

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bc you know

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they fast as hell

long heath Oct 17, 2019, 5:29 AM

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God I find it annoying how quick they are

barren zephyr Oct 17, 2019, 2:46 PM

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@mellow maple Those eight unannounced dinosaurs were not confirmed to be AI so you should probably edit your suggestion

mellow maple Oct 17, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Oops

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Okay

vernal robin Oct 17, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Wish I could spawn near my friends not 1000 kilometers away and die 100 times on the way to meet them

hexed lynx Oct 17, 2019, 7:28 PM

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@vernal robin You can, just let them nest you

vernal robin Oct 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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we all new to the game

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wish we could play togheter from beginning

tender latch Oct 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Concept Collections Updated
Just another update to my collections. DM me for the link as usual if you haven't saved it somewhere.

New Stuff:

Introducing the Revolver, a handgun that trades damage for a slow firing speed and a small clip size.
Changed the Assault Rifle's stored ammo from 120 to 90.
Added a weapon accuracy table.
Added a supply crate table.
Added weapon skins.
Added a new achievement and Steam items collection.
Added a new miscellaneous collection.
Concept art coming soon... maybe...

craggy scarab Oct 17, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Huh?

tender latch Oct 17, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Wait, I am not allowed to post updates to my concept collection documents here? If so, then fuck me.

indigo sun Oct 17, 2019, 8:22 PM

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I think it's just he doesnt know what the hell youre talking about

tender latch Oct 17, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Good :3

valid zephyr Oct 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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What do people think of the idea of herbis eating strain plants to become symbiote herbis?

nocturne sonnet Oct 17, 2019, 9:16 PM

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i like it

paper oriole Oct 17, 2019, 9:58 PM

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anything good for herbis i like lol

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oops caps

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sadly they'll probably never get strains

valid zephyr Oct 17, 2019, 10:00 PM

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yeah no strains got confirmed

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which is why we're thinking up all these alternate long term goals like elders or symbiotes

paper oriole Oct 17, 2019, 10:01 PM

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it would be hot shit if herbis got their own unique strain

valid zephyr Oct 17, 2019, 10:01 PM

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elders is the most common one thrown around, but the mentions of strains plants got us thinking that could have somthing to do with it

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it's not a herbi strain if the plant is the strain.

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taps head

paper oriole Oct 17, 2019, 10:02 PM

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right now all they got to look forward to is becoming a gore pile lol, i hope strain plants arent just thrown in for generic horror and nothing more

valid zephyr Oct 17, 2019, 10:03 PM

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yep at the moment all herbis and several carnis seem to be dead ends in their long term progression.

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once strains get added no point playing anything except somthing which can progress furthur

paper oriole Oct 17, 2019, 10:04 PM

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were any current survival carnis outright denied strains yet?

valid zephyr Oct 17, 2019, 10:04 PM

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was thinking of what abilities symbiote herbis could have. larger and stronger, but slow maybe.

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and not have to eat much due to photosynthesis

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maybe even provide a bit of food to the rest of the herd?

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due to plants growing from them

paper oriole Oct 17, 2019, 10:05 PM

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maybe special plant related abilities like toxins too

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as long as they look cool as shit and have improved attributes lol 👌

valid zephyr Oct 17, 2019, 10:06 PM

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yeah could vary between species

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looking cool is main thing though

paper oriole Oct 17, 2019, 10:06 PM

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maybe depending on the food the herbis typically like to eat

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like if diablo typically targets mushrooms it'd get a fungal strain or something. idk what diablo would go after with varied diet just a thought

valid zephyr Oct 17, 2019, 10:08 PM

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would probs be based on the strain plant they ate

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as it would infect them and grow from their body

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hell cama could have a small forest growing from it

paper oriole Oct 17, 2019, 10:10 PM

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man that would be badass

valid zephyr Oct 17, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Just make symbiote dibble into bulbasaur dondiLUL

grave karma Oct 17, 2019, 10:39 PM

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make the plants turn the herbivores that eat them into bushes

craggy scarab Oct 17, 2019, 11:24 PM

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@empty sigil please read the pinned messages, you have to put a lot more substance behind “Nerf x dinosaur please” suggestions else they get removed.

elder swan Oct 18, 2019, 1:30 AM

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@wintry cipher i'm really in love with your modified senses idea and i think it can really tie in with the affinity system, letting players choose which senses they can slightly modify

safe galleon Oct 18, 2019, 6:21 AM

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Being blind for the rest of your play through does not seem fun
Some little Utah can just run up on you and bite your eyes

grand brook Oct 18, 2019, 7:11 AM

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also dinosaurs most likely didn't have external genitalia, so no possibility for a bite on the balls

warped zealot Oct 18, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Too much trolling would come from being able to be perma-blinded 😂

lilac swallow Oct 18, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Being perma-"any didability that just stops you from playing correctly" just sucks

barren zephyr Oct 18, 2019, 12:31 PM

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nah you can go for the balls if you know where the genital pouch is

patent spade Oct 18, 2019, 2:07 PM

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how was that blindness crap idea not removed for trolling lmao. no way anyone thinks that's actually a good idea

mellow maple Oct 18, 2019, 4:06 PM

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...I thought it was. dondiPathetic

craggy scarab Oct 18, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Gone

mighty girder Oct 18, 2019, 6:12 PM

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that is

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way too complicated

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youd be too busy trying to read numbers in a fight that the fight just wouldnt happen

craggy scarab Oct 18, 2019, 6:12 PM

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@tranquil kite @jovial ridge no discussion in the #general-feedback channel

jovial ridge Oct 18, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Soz

paper oriole Oct 18, 2019, 6:26 PM

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that would honestly make the games combat feel so cluttered

violet magnet Oct 18, 2019, 6:30 PM

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this reads like those horrible QTE's in kingdom hearts where u have to press a button at the exact moment it comes up on screen or u heckin' die

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or pokemon battles

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REX used Bite!
TRIKE countered!

last heath Oct 18, 2019, 6:31 PM

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didnt the devs say they hate quick time events?

valid zephyr Oct 18, 2019, 6:36 PM

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the icons would not suit at all. one appeal of the isle is how natural things look

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glowing icons over everything would make it seem like some stat based mmo like wow

paper oriole Oct 18, 2019, 7:11 PM

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It feels smoother to just aim your attacks at the dinosaur naturally instead of having target UI popping up on it and changing your attack options

craggy scarab Oct 18, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Which sounds turn-based

paper oriole Oct 18, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Locational is coming, without cluttering UI, and with collision there is new combat coming like pounce with utah and grapple with allo

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Yeah turn based is stanky af

tender latch Oct 18, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Everywhere is herbivore hell @potent sonnet

midnight bane Oct 18, 2019, 11:27 PM

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@potent sonnet more like deino heaven

potent sonnet Oct 18, 2019, 11:28 PM

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correct, both of you

valid elk Oct 19, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Anyone wanna discuss my idea?

craggy scarab Oct 19, 2019, 12:19 AM

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What would the reason behind it be? (story and gameplay wise)

wheat igloo Oct 19, 2019, 12:43 AM

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In regards to the regular meme channel suggestion, this discord is meant for the game. Bringing in a regular memes chat would do nothing. There are other discords that you can use for memes.

tepid light Oct 19, 2019, 2:05 AM

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I can already feel your pain CMG if a meme channel comes to be OkayChamp

valid elk Oct 19, 2019, 2:45 AM

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I was thinking more hidden bases would mess with anyone who wanted to send communications or if you pass by, the Mercs radio would activate and pick up on the signals

still temple Oct 19, 2019, 1:37 PM

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@keen hull good idea, but wouldnt fit Dryo imo
Like, dryo burrowing and burrows in general should definitely be more fleshed out.
But keep in mind Dryo is not a particularly small dino, and we only see advanced extensive burrows like the image u posted in rly small creatures.

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probably one of the 8 unannounced dinos would be small enough to have the ability to make extensive networks of burrows

mellow maple Oct 19, 2019, 3:25 PM

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That source for Megalania thoo

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The game's not realistic but I wouldn't use that source for anything.

elfin oyster Oct 19, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Whatever the source, the thing is pretty big.

indigo sun Oct 19, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Kinda varies but overall the result is a damn big lizard

📎 images.jpeg 📎 Extant_Monitor_lizards-Megalania_SIZE.png

elfin oyster Oct 19, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Idk, but for me it qualifies as unique enough to be added.

mellow maple Oct 19, 2019, 3:33 PM

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I do want Megalania tbh

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If Titanoboa gets a pass despite not being a mesozoic animal

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So should others

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like Megalania

indigo sun Oct 19, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Its a neat animal

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Any unique mechanics it could have?

elfin oyster Oct 19, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Well venom but it wouldnt really be unique to that, since we got the Dilo. But I would think this is a really good one for smaller to mid sized herbies. Since it is quadropedal its easier to hide in shrubbery and what not. That combined with speed is a great ambusher.

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No other dino can really match it, sure the Deino can sneak in that too but its slow AF compared to this

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A Lowely komodo dragons run 20 km/h, I'd imagine Megalania being faster. Good speed+great profile for ambushing=a neat pick

compact coyote Oct 19, 2019, 5:30 PM

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tracking venom that decreases stamina

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instead of the normal scent you have, you have a modified version that refreshes every few seconds (you could even make this process manual) that allows you to track the animal youve bit, with the downside being that this scent either only tracks said bitten animal or has a very weak radius for animals you havent bit

mellow maple Oct 19, 2019, 5:32 PM

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wait wait it just came to my head

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Capy said that Pteranodon is gonna have a bipedal launch animation???

indigo sun Oct 19, 2019, 5:33 PM

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yes

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wheat have you not seen the animation streams?

mellow maple Oct 19, 2019, 5:34 PM

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I have but not the take off one

indigo sun Oct 19, 2019, 5:34 PM

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there's also a quad launch that takes more stam but gets you up in the air faster

mellow maple Oct 19, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Ooh okay

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I was about to say LMAO

compact coyote Oct 19, 2019, 5:34 PM

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it was a while ago, the biped launch was shown off and it looked retarded

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no other way of putting it lmao

mellow maple Oct 19, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Realistic or not, those back legs are weaksauce. Quad launch is where its at bois

compact coyote Oct 19, 2019, 5:35 PM

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quad launch should be the only take-off method change my mind

mellow maple Oct 19, 2019, 5:35 PM

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^

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I agree

indigo sun Oct 19, 2019, 5:35 PM

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I feel like the run couldve totally been used for a better quad launch

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Like, quick and slow launches

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Still gotta build up to avoid using as much stam but its not using the little fork legs

valid zephyr Oct 19, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Imo nesting stuff should be kept as simple as the female places the nest and makes 50%, and the male makes the other 50%. That logs both parents.

People nested by them can then make their skins by mixing and matching the parents colours.

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'winning females over' isn't going to work, as it's humans controlling these creatures.

silver talon Oct 19, 2019, 7:26 PM

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With the affinity system it could maybe like unlock being able to nest. I'm not sure how it would work tho with filling up a bar or somethin 😅😅😅

barren zephyr Oct 19, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Unlocking being able to nest? Sorry but that would be stupid af mechanic

valid zephyr Oct 19, 2019, 7:29 PM

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People will just choose who they want to nest with.

silver talon Oct 19, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Yea I suppose
Just thought it would be better then sitting for hours waiting for baby's to grow and eggs to gestate.

gaunt parcel Oct 19, 2019, 8:28 PM

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The nicest and simplest nesting mechanic i read here was
"male places nest"
"female lays eggs"
"done"

indigo sun Oct 19, 2019, 8:32 PM

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I read "female place nest" "male lays eggs" "done" and was incredibly concerned

lament thorn Oct 19, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Even easy would be

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“Female places nest”

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“Male clicks a fertilise button on the nest”

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“Both can now incubate and gestate”

mellow fox Oct 19, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Love the horror plant parasite suggestion, @valid zephyr but imo adding a picture should help the people who are confused emoting

valid zephyr Oct 19, 2019, 10:37 PM

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ok will do!

crimson phoenix Oct 20, 2019, 4:57 AM

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@barren zephyr just adding another dino to survival doesn't really work. Sandbox dinos don't really have a proper growth cycle to so it could be pretty un balanced, also with my experiance of Acro the only thing that keeps it balanced is the fear of losing it and having to be nested back in.

mellow maple Oct 20, 2019, 5:00 AM

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I want acro but you're gonna need more than though.

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To justify it coming in

crimson phoenix Oct 20, 2019, 5:01 AM

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I like the sandbox dinos, I play on a server that has a lot of them, but most of them are only balanced because they only come into existence through nesting

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 5:08 AM

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I modified my suggestion a little there if you want to see it there

crimson phoenix Oct 20, 2019, 5:17 AM

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yea I would love to see all the sandbox dino become survival dinos, but that takes a lot of time and effort. Some are going to be added like stego. In the case of the acro, First I think you are heavily underestimating just how strong it is and second I have heard rumors it's intended to be ai

mellow maple Oct 20, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Well, the reason I can see why Acrocanthosaurus coming to survival would be justified is because its stats are beyond garbage right now.

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49 heal though

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 5:20 AM

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yes i know he is strong but like you agree with me that he could have more power. @crimson phoenix

mellow maple Oct 20, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Post the recode, do you guys think it'll be really hard to an extra value of 0 to acros' heal? 👀

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49 -> 490 BOOM

crimson phoenix Oct 20, 2019, 5:21 AM

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I had an acro for almost 4 months on the server I play on

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it went to 4th screen about 9 times. If It had a reasonable healing rate it would be way to strong

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 5:23 AM

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yes it could increase the cure of acro on the screen, since the bleeding for me is reasonable

mellow maple Oct 20, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Yeah but it's supposed to be an apex predator, in a sense.

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Acrocanthosaurus would be the smallest apex by a small margin.

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Except its stupid size rn

long heath Oct 20, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Don't like the idea of plants "infecting" herbivores that cause them to eat meat. The entire gimmick of herbs is that they're more defensive rather offensive, are easier to maintain and have a herd mentality. Sorry but no wannabe Shant mains in survival by intentionally getting infected by these things.

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Would only be a sad excuse to encourage certain herbivores like Maiasaura and Gallimimus to exhibit even more toxic behavior.

crimson phoenix Oct 20, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Is the gali spam kick a bug or intended feature?

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because honestly it makes me want to tear my hair out

craggy scarab Oct 20, 2019, 6:19 AM

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pretty sure it's not intended

blazing charm Oct 20, 2019, 12:04 PM

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In regards to that Acro post, a new playable needs some kind of mechanic or gimmick to help make it unique.

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 12:06 PM

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What purpose does the animal serve beyond "variation"? like $7,000 for a dino kinda gotta have a reason to put it in survival

pulsar lake Oct 20, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Plateosaurus should be a playable

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Not an AI

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Monolo is a big dilo

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Other are yeah why not

ashen elm Oct 20, 2019, 2:11 PM

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I would not be opposed to playable Plateosaurus. I actually was considering the fact that Plateosaurus might have been slightly more omnivorous than classically depicted. Though it probably didn't usually straight up eat carrion or anything bigger than bite-size lizards and mammals.

But I'd be fine with AI too. I disagree on Monolo, he has the crest but filled Allo's niche more dietary wise.

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 3:36 PM

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@jolly belfry 1.) regardless of how AI works its still bullshit if someone's too much of a salty bitch to accept they died and bigger animals and family groups need the bigger bodies and cant live off of ai entirely. Sucks to be the person who's too much of a fuckin asshole to accept that people need to eat something more than a taco. 2.) Regardless of how water works in the future it's still necessary because water doesnt work like that right now. I can't think of anyone angry about the rule beyond the people who do this dumb shit and get mad when they're banned because they couldn't understand that maybe you shouldn't die in water like a piece of shit.

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it's there for a reason. and you cant eat bodies in water right now so it's not much of a valid point.

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Itvisnt needed like i say

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.

last heath Oct 20, 2019, 3:37 PM

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dude, tone it down, mods will get mad at you @indigo sun

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 3:37 PM

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You have two spawn at 69 %

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Ah yes, this salty little rex cant accept that maybe someone needed something more than an oro so theyre gonna die in water to be a complete and utter dick.

jovial moss Oct 20, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Food denial is a dick move whether there's AI around or not, and should not be encouraged by lifting the rules on it

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 3:38 PM

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It doesnt matter what you say anyway .youre just wrong

jovial moss Oct 20, 2019, 3:38 PM

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dondiUhh

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Im not gonna have my meal kill itself in water because it couldnt handle being food.

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If you dont do this yourself, how does the rule affect you? It doesnt.

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The only people the no food denial rule actually affects is the people who break the rules and get punished for it.

last heath Oct 20, 2019, 3:41 PM

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well, if you dont food denial, the rule effectively doesnt exist to you, it only affects food deniars, just leave it there

elder swan Oct 20, 2019, 3:42 PM

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@jolly belfry yes, the devs will eventually make it so players can drag bodies out of the water, but until then, as long as bodies cannot be eaten in the water, the water exploit rule must stay.

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 3:53 PM

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'Monolophosaurus(=Allo)'

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squint

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Should be Dilo, other than that, a fine suggestion

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Well the funny point ,if you go that way,most poeple are mad at these people who does food denial cause it like bad sportmanship or unrealistic,which is wrong,cause many animal escapes in water in danger,anyway most player kill in kos mode which is unrealistc too.they pretent to be honorfull persons and hate these people who do food denial but at the same time they are the same pieces of shit cause they play kos style ,which is ok for me since this is a game not a simulator but you get the point

last heath Oct 20, 2019, 3:55 PM

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then ask for kos rule?

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 3:56 PM

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animals arent human being controlled creatures and dont sit and bleed out in water because they're mad at another human being controlled creature. the argument isnt realism. And the KoS people aren't really stopping someone from eating because they're a salty prick about dying. theyre having fun in a video game.

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Just lol

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 3:56 PM

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just lol at your reasoning

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Not at all are you a kid who doesnt undrstant?

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 3:57 PM

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uh no i'm a person with actual logic and reasoning and I know that people need more than shitty ai sometimes and that denying food is being a complete asshole.

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Like me

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But i get it

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 3:58 PM

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removing the rule that you cant die in water wont stop people from being upset that their damn food decided to swim into the middle of a lake like a piece of shit

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it just means the people that do it get to be pieces of shit without the consequences

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when water is fixed, sure, go ahead and remove the rule

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but it's not right now is it?

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does your body float right now?

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can you eat in water right now?

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Oh hey yea, make food denying allowed

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So all the salty herbies can just jump of a cliff

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And thus ruining the entire hunt

elder swan Oct 20, 2019, 4:00 PM

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i think the majority is against you, titan. and you know as well as everyone else they're not gonna remove such an important tule

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 4:04 PM

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how does the food denial rule even affect you if you dont do it?

elder swan Oct 20, 2019, 4:05 PM

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^

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Cause its a unneeded rule

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 4:19 PM

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but in what way does it affect your gameplay?

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how does it hinder your enjoyment at all

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 4:20 PM

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That doesnt matter

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 4:20 PM

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how does it make anything unfair?

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in what way does the rule seem unfair or harmful to gameplay

last heath Oct 20, 2019, 4:21 PM

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@jolly belfry If It doesnt affect you, let it be, because other people want it

wintry cipher Oct 20, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Because of the rule existing you are able to hunt without someone jumping into water. It's not meant to affect you. It's meant to protect you from asshats.

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 4:22 PM

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@indigo sun😂

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 4:22 PM

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if you cant give a serious answer i cant take you seriously and i'll just fully believe youre one of the assholes that does deny food to people.

last heath Oct 20, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Argument is over, lads, lets move on

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I already did how old are you guys?you realy unexperianced

wintry cipher Oct 20, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Phone is glitching ignore me a sec

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Also

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I fully believe youre an kos asshole

wintry cipher Oct 20, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Armored

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 4:23 PM

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okay

wintry cipher Oct 20, 2019, 4:23 PM

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That is very rude

last heath Oct 20, 2019, 4:23 PM

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It's a troll, lads, let It be

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 4:23 PM

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oh does that make it a troll suggestion?

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 4:23 PM

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And still i play with the rules

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 4:23 PM

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if he's a troll?

wintry cipher Oct 20, 2019, 4:24 PM

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<@&401466542140817419> confirmed troll here.

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Mmhh he is rude aswell

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Uf he throws punches and cant take one

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That kids move

wintry cipher Oct 20, 2019, 4:24 PM

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He has not been rude at all and in fact has taken pains to provide strong sane debate.

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 4:24 PM

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and you're laughing at me for saying i dont agree with your suggestion because it in no way hinders gameplay

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if you cant handle criticism idk what to tell you man

wintry cipher Oct 20, 2019, 4:24 PM

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You are the one not acting like an adult here Armor

frail sigil Oct 20, 2019, 4:25 PM

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That is enough. If you cannot discuss it in a civil manner don't discuss it at all.

jolly belfry Oct 20, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Not at all but oh well i stop it but remind , you started it

valid falcon Oct 20, 2019, 4:45 PM

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hello, the isle and still in development or it's over because more update for a time and more news of the new dino thx 🙂

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Oh my

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Boi

still temple Oct 20, 2019, 4:48 PM

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dondiUhh

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 4:48 PM

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at least they didnt tag a dev

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@valid falcon the isle is currently undergoing a recode period in which they rewrite the entirety of the game's base code. This is why there's no updates. In the future, post-recode update, we will be getting pteranodon, stegosaurus, deinosuchus, and spinosaurus and there's been nothing confirmed after that

craggy scarab Oct 20, 2019, 4:50 PM

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@valid falcon this isn't the channel to ask, better would be #401464048610312195. However the game is currently undergoing a major update.

valid falcon Oct 20, 2019, 4:51 PM

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oh sorry, thanks a lot for the answers

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 4:52 PM

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50% resistance is a bit op

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 4:52 PM

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@left storm Ceratosaurus isn't moving from its place, it was never intended to be an animal stronger than an Allosaurus(It was forced into that role due to shared animations with acro, which forced it to be huge in order to work)

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It's basic structure is remaining, it just needs extra boosts to help it fit

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The biggest two being bleed resistance and stamina

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bleed resistance being the most important of the two

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:04 PM

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You want them to totally police the community like that lol

limpid dove Oct 20, 2019, 5:04 PM

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@mighty girder unfortunately that would be difficult for mods to actually watch over. However, one of the rules is to use common sense, so basically being respectful ties under that. As well as flame baiting or provoking, I would say kinda ties into that too

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:07 PM

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to be fair sometimes people are complete and total assholes to someone when they a) aren't even done fully explaining or haven't had the chance to explain or talk about other people's pov on the subject or b) have already had the discussion and moved on forever ago and then get called a dumbass for whatever they said with no context whatsoever to be able to call them a dumbass and no one really gets told off for it

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it'd be hard to fully watch over us all like that though

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 5:13 PM

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@slender spindle weight wont matter in dmg and weight = hp also

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so having 6500kg dino with 6000hp is probably against the code ??

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Oh god, no please, no Not a giga speed buff

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:14 PM

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rn rex has 5,800kg and 6,500 hp

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:14 PM

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anything but that

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Rex speed nerf is fine

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But a giga speed buff, No thanks nuh uh

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Not with its trot of doom

rare axle Oct 20, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Gigas were already too fast before and they were nerfed

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for a good reason

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:14 PM

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^

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:14 PM

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its trot will be nerfed in this

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as well

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:14 PM

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It's trot is there for a reason

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Sauropods

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Keep the speed as it is now, and just drop rex to the same speed/slightly below it

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We don't need nyoom giga back

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:15 PM

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so a 30.6km giga and a 30km rex?

rare axle Oct 20, 2019, 5:15 PM

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I mean, the rex is just slightly faster and have a very big stamina handicap

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:16 PM

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if you look i removed the stamina debuff and buffed and nerfed its ambush so its 40km/h but last 25sec

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@barren zephyr rex rn has 5,800kg and 6,500hp and giga has 6,450kg with 6,000 hp

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 5:18 PM

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oh ok

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:18 PM

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yeah

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 5:18 PM

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NICE

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Giga faster than Diablo and sucho now XD

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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rex is faster then them rn

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so whats your point?

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Rex has bad stam

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Rex doesn't have much bleed and is easily escapable

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Easier to escape rex

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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not with bb

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Giga at rexes speed would be unescapable

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One hit

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You are dead

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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1 hit from rex your dead

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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It'll track you down to the ends of the earth due to its bleed

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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how long does rex's current ambush last?

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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not 25secs

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Rex isn't a guaranteed BB

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Rex cant chase you across the map and regen stam on the move

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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like i suggested

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Chances of survival are mucher higher with Rex than giga

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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with what i suggest it can

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look at what i suggested

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i also made it so it wont use as much stam ambushing

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Things should be using a lot of stam in ambush tho

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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giga doesnt have to stop moving to regen stamina and i think rex did just fine with the short ambush and stamina issues because it's an ambush predator not something meant to continuously chase things

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Ambush should be short and fast not 25sec

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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That's the main issue with current ambush, it doesn't exhaust your animal enough as it is

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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25 sec ambush is op

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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does anything in the game have a 25 second ambush?

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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No

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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thats why its run speed is 30km

unborn quail Oct 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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The highest is 15 seconds

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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yeah okay no

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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40kmh ambush that lasts almost as long as its base run stam

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:23 PM

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no one's gonna agree with that

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:23 PM

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i meant it as insentive to use it more then normal running

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:23 PM

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ambush should be taking a lot of stamina because that's what happens when you move faster, you get tired quick

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:24 PM

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An ambush pred with strongest bite in survival shouldnt be running at 40kmh for half a minute

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:24 PM

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also that

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:24 PM

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yeah ok

rare axle Oct 20, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Old giga scary memories are coming back to me

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:24 PM

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i thought a longer duration with a lower speed would be accepted

rare axle Oct 20, 2019, 5:24 PM

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hands are sweaty

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:25 PM

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what is rexes current ambush duration?

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:25 PM

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pretty sure most people like the low stam duration because it's already got a pretty damn high ambush and it should be discouraged from using ambush whenever

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sorry i miswrote

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pretty sure its 6 seconds or some shit

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:26 PM

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so why does giga and sucho have such a low base speed?

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:26 PM

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something like that i cant really remember

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Giga is an endurance bleeder

rare axle Oct 20, 2019, 5:26 PM

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because crazy stam

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:27 PM

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giga has crazy good stamina and trot speed, it doesnt need to necessarily be running after shit when it trots things down just fine

mellow maple Oct 20, 2019, 5:27 PM

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I like it, it's reducing the speed of giant apexes

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:27 PM

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50secs is crazy? compared to rex not everything else with 1:30-3min stam duration

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Its like humans with our shit speed and good stam

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:27 PM

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well stamina regen for an apex

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sorry im typing really fast here

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im not getting my words out properly

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:28 PM

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its ok carry on

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:28 PM

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the current two apexes have to sit down to regen stamina which is something giga doesnt have to do

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:28 PM

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yes

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 5:29 PM

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I pref quabaal7890 idea or suggestion on giga and rex tbh

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Tbh slow ass trike should be able to regen stam walking too cus he cant outrun anybody as is lol but thats a diff subject

rare axle Oct 20, 2019, 5:30 PM

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yeah

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:30 PM

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what did qubaal suggest?

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:30 PM

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but giga can't win a 1v1 against rex 50% of the time as giga you need to get the jump on it and even then with the bb the giga can lose so being forced into a fight against something faster and stronger i don't see as being balanced

indigo sun Oct 20, 2019, 5:31 PM

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youre not supposed to be winning 1v1 against a rex

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giga isnt even supposed to be fighting rex its supposed to be killing mid tiers n shit

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:31 PM

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i know then why is giga slower if it can't fight a rex fairly?

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thats my problem

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Giga can outstam rex if it spots one at a distance

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It can easily escape if it isnt snuck up on

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:32 PM

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i get out run by rex all the time in the base running from one side of lake 1 to the other and 100% of the time i get caught

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speed is the big factor here

rare axle Oct 20, 2019, 5:33 PM

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that's weird, they're supposed to be only a tiny bit faster

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I don't imagine them going over the lake and managing to get you

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:34 PM

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30.6km giga to rexes 33.4ishkm

paper oriole Oct 20, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Yeah ive never experienced that either :<

rare axle Oct 20, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Yeah but, you're probably too close if they manage to get you

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:34 PM

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and 33 stam or 33secs for rex and 50 secs for giga

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not a big difference

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its a difference

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i would say a good 30m-40m

rare axle Oct 20, 2019, 5:35 PM

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there is no way they can catch you if you run at the same time with a 40m difference

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 5:35 PM

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I usually use my ambush to get away from a rex or either that i hope i dodge it hitbox tbh

rare axle Oct 20, 2019, 5:35 PM

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or I have to test again some things

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:35 PM

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like i would be at about half way mark at the lake and the rex would be a the end

barren zephyr Oct 20, 2019, 5:37 PM

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The only problem i have with rex is that the rex could easily kill a diablo or anything below that speed by chasing it down

slender spindle Oct 20, 2019, 5:37 PM

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rexes ambush is insane like 43.5ish to gigas 39.1ish

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i don't see the fairness in this

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giga 30.6km to 39.1km ish
rex 33.4km ish to 43.5km ish

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and giga can only max out the bleed and put the rex on 3rd screen before it dies

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im most fights head on i mean