i like it
#general-feedback-discussion
random knoll
vestal rune
it's a dragon
random knoll
u mean wyvern
lilac swallow
Wyvern are usually said to be a kind of dragon so dragon is technically right
vestal rune
wyverns have 6 limbs?
indigo sun
Wyverns have 4 limbs
vestal rune
excactly
paper oriole
thought wyverns only had 2 sets of limbs one of which were their wings
paper oriole
if it has 3 sets of limbs i dont think it counts
vestal rune
my logic is unrefutable
grand brook
we are not starting this argument
indigo sun
Its a hexapod there ya fuckin go
vestal rune
except quetz is a lizard with wings
grand brook
i'm so done with the names of mythological flying reptiles, call it whatever you want to call it
compact coyote
so that quetz is a hexapod flying turtle?
craggy scarab
@formal vine there is a major brand new rework of the entire damage/bleed/bonebreak/health system coming shortly after recode if not with it. That along with locational damage and collision should address a significant portion of your concerns. 
pulsar lake
I seen velo eat corps but they don't have the food reserve to eat the entire corps
valid zephyr
@pulsar lake better solution is make AI not spawn at carnis at all. It spawns in certain places on the map
pulsar lake
It can
But if I made that kind of suggestion it will be very long to make and for me it's almost 00:OO so I wanted to do a suggestion with actual spawn system. Just a little bit rework, not completely.
lilac swallow
As longs as ai spawns around people even if It spawns at 0% of hunger people Will just survive
indigo sun
I'd rather have ai not spawn for people, but rather in its own biomes and parts of the map to give the map a more lively quality and to make people work for their food
pulsar lake
Yeha
Yeah
So I will rewrite this tomorrow a new suggestion.
I delete this one but I guard it in private.
barren zephyr
@steady cosmos yes basically but more of a pteranodon shape
vestal rune
@keen trail sandbox dinos are not getting new stats as the devs would rather focus on survival
barren zephyr
Hey Fire I appreciate ur honest opinion I’m going to try to work on the idea
vestal rune
and stats are also based around survival dinos, which leads to juvie utah being heavier
well, see if you can find a way to make a hyper that actually matches the idea of hypers and also fixes the problem of flying making hypers rather easy
barren zephyr
Easy 😂
keen trail
@vestal rune I know but eventually if they add Herrera
vestal rune
all dinos which get into survival get their stats entirelly overhauled anyway, obviouslly they would give it more mass
keen trail
To survival
Ok
And hopefully more bleed too so we can bleed out those annoying utahs and dilos
hallow vigil
regarding that utah rock suggestion, how would dryos push utahs off the rock? They can hardly take juvi utahs iirc
Plus, when the rock still existed, dryos, galis, and pachys could jump up there. They could always get up there and fight off the utahs, but it didnt make a difference in the utah numbers on the rock
so i dont think a ramp for them would solve the issue
Dilos might make a difference though
night mountain
Honestly make deino able to climb rocks
not like giant vertical cliffs obviously
but crocs can climb basically whatever as long as it has good footholds so I don't see why not
would be fun to try and sneak up on afking utahs
grave karma
make deino have the tail physics of the ark sarco
languid swan
i actually like the the changes made to Utah rock kinda to many tree's were added but the rock gone makes the scenery for me a lot better one of the reasons i love the game is for the land scaping done . i remember finding a tiny pine tree and thinking what ever dev placed it, needs a hug LOL.
paper oriole
theyre already planning on adding large AI, including brachiosaurus and Acro, they will probably add things like kentro and styraco which are in the database as AI too
ivory estuary
That's great any talks about when those would come out?
paper oriole
ehhhh idk, brachi is already well underway as a creature, i'd assume shortly after they get the recode settled but who knows
recode will still be some time
ivory estuary
ya alright ty
night mountain
literally the last thing the game needs is MORE reliably spawning ai
brachis cool but only because it's huge and would just stomp rexes
barren zephyr
Hai
paper oriole
only new ai we need is ai that will teleport behind a juvie rex to ram it in the cloaca
accro ai will hopefully do that
lol i hope brachi ai just shits on or steps on AFKers to kill them
night mountain
I legitimately want brachi to do trample and like go out of its way to slowly walk over anyone near them whos been sitting still in a bush
night mountain
Make it slow and loud so like anyone actually playing hears it coming and its no threat but like
afk stompies
rigid tartan
bleed is already broken AF in the hands of an experienced player. y'all asking to buff it are off your nut.
night mountain
we already have 2 hadros
3 if you count shant
tbh they should make other hadros just be skins, they're all so similar
nocturne sonnet
but we have 4 ceratopsians
night mountain
whats the forth?
lilac swallow
And we have only one stegosaur and a unconfirmend ankylosaur
@night mountaintaco
Taco is a ceratopsian
night mountain
isn't taco not a ceratopsian
lilac swallow
A basal ceratopsian
night mountain
oh oops
night mountain
but yeah in any case those 2 aren't playable
I'm all for new species but super only want things that are very different from the current ones
lilac swallow
We still have only one upcoming stagosaur and a not confirmed ankylosaur
Not to mention the only difference between para and Cory are head shapes
night mountain
Only one confirmed bird :^(
i would LOVE a big skin pack for para and maia that were other hadros though
same for ptera
would add in a load of species pretty quickly and easily that way
valid zephyr
cory could essentially be an alternate skin for para
lilac swallow
Exactly
nocturne sonnet
it would be nice to see family tree dinos like para maia corytho or trike dibble and ava in survival to have some and not like hypo and magna
sick crescent
Ava and Taco don’t count
clear turret
like I said, "technically" heh
nocturne sonnet
thats what i meant
barren zephyr
Survival
vocal wasp
Its been shown that dinosaurs have some form of feathers. I wish that the models would be changed some day...
native vale
@vocal wasp They talked about a feather system back in the day. Not sure if it is still relevant or if they changed plans, though!
rigid tartan
we dont need giant chickens for the sake of realism. calm yourself skins are nice
lilac swallow
Feathered raptors and ornithomimids looks actually better
jovial moss
giant chickens > lizard frog hellspawn
valid zephyr
feathered utahs, gallis, and theris look way nicer than naked ones.
lilac swallow
But muh scales
jovial moss
Theri with scales looks like it has a rash
lilac swallow
I love that feather theri
night mountain
that theri looks like when someones starving but had a bloated stomach because of it
lilac swallow
Better than our current bush ass theri
jovial moss
me too it looks deceptively soft but inherently dangerous like all birds
night mountain
i love broom theri though 😦
jovial moss
I love bush ass theri but I like the swoopy tail look of this one a bit more
grave karma
why are its fingers so far apart
paper oriole
diaper turkey
icy moat
that's a real fuzz-butt
indigo sun
@severe silo you need to say more than "make it faster"
severe silo
oh
barren zephyr
is it me or am i really annoyed that you don't automaticly stop drinking afther ur full?
Just me ok
daring salmon
no not just you
it happens with eating so why not drinking too
was there any clarification on why family mode isnt allowed anymore? would be nice to be able to change dino without killing your current one off?=
grave karma
because apex revenge killing, when you get killed, you go on another account and come back to kill the thing that killed you
grave karma
the search function
daring salmon
oh god im dumb
hahahah
i put my suggestion in on the family mode matter
what u think? 😛
grave karma
daring salmon
damn, so many ways to abuse such things
god how can we avoid abuse of such systems
a way to detect that a player is doing someting like that is probably very hard to program
like when the game detects a player is putting his profiles in the same spot and then kills one and logs to another that it just removes his corpse. i can see there would be a lot of difficulties in this tho
umbral prairie
I mean switching slots could have a timer
so you don't lure people to where you logged your rex
or so you don't revenge kill
waiting would be annoying, but it would help
daring salmon
ye either just start over immediatly on the same slot, or wait for 2 minutes or something
umbral prairie
it would have to be like 30 minutes at least
daring salmon
or.. even as long as it takes for a body to disappear.. so you cant feed yourself
that could be a way, but it would suck if u just want to change dino to play with friends
umbral prairie
I'd set it to an hour tbh or maybe 50 minutes, even if that is annoying as hell to wait for but you can go on other servers in the meantime
grave karma
and possibly if you're injured in any way, you cant switch
daring salmon
ehhh well, i think you should be able to, since if u can hide long enough to safe log u should be able to switch too
daring salmon
ye like safelogging
but i think the time it takes for a body to despawn is enough time for a slot switch
the upside of that is that u cant kill yourself to feed your alt
since the body would be gone
and tbh its enough time to move away too for the other
umbral prairie
if you scout with small dinos for a herd, the herd will still probably still be there for quite some time, same with things you lost a fight to since they need to heal, and with corpses you left for yourself, so the timer needs to be long to avoid all of that. It can't be too long though since you don't want to spend ages growing on another server just to get back to the first server.
Maybe the wait time could be longer the bigger the dino you want to switch to is
so you need to wait an hour or so to get on your apex
daring salmon
healing could be sped up a bit :p
umbral prairie
but only 10 minutes if you want to switch to your dryo
daring salmon
it is agonizingly slow :p
daring salmon
oh on a sidenote on healing, damage u got from starving should be gone faster after you eaten
umbral prairie
I kinda dislike that you get direct damage from hunger
umbral prairie
I'd prefer you just getting a bit weaker and biting slower or sth, maybe lose stam a bit faster, and after a while you just die, but with that direct damage a utah can theoretically one shot a sucho, which doesn't make sense even if the sucho is starving.
although debuffs might be annoying
especially speed debuffs
daring salmon
i would think your biting should speed up actually, a hungry animal is a dangerous one u know :p
daring salmon
well a starving one not obviously :p
but i think with some way to detect abuse it could be possible to have more than 1 slot
but it wont be easy for sure
warm silo
A queue system in joining servers, please and thanks.
oak shale
@dim ore dont you think other carnivores should be able to do this?
I mean
I think mid tiers and small tiers should have heavy attacks
And would do just fine
dim ore
@oak shale yes they could do this for mid tier as well for sure, i am merely making the suggestion to the apex tier as currently its mostly the apex herbivores that have the dual attacks that use up massive amounts of stamina and have to deal with rexes that break their leg 75% of the time on the first hit..so yes mid tier could benefit as well..i just was thinking of the apexes when i wrote it.. para for example is not an apex yet has the dual attacks.. however the use of the strong attack can often take up to 1/4 of their stamina...so they can only use it a few times.
a do agree though, the rest of the tiers could benefit as well lol 😉
wintry cipher
@versed olive
Overpowered07/01/2019
For everyone posting suggestions, from now on suggestions containing 'nerf/buff x, or please add X dino' are not permissive as they add nothing of value for the development team. Please propose a possible fix/weigh balance changes.
If you post please add this dino, explain why the animal should be added and what mechanics it could have to set it apart from animals already in-game to make it unique so we don't have clone dinosaurs all over. All constructive criticism is to be discussed in #general-feedback-discussion as this channel is not for feedback or discussion. Troll suggestions will result in the poster kicked from the discord.
^ this is pinned in suggestions.
versed olive
@wintry cipher ok, let me add some lines. Sorry.
hallow moss
one question i have is should there be genetic and skillbased sizes of dinos:bigger size:more health more damage,smaller size:quicker to grow more stam quicker
indigo sun
@hallow moss why are you adding reactions to your own suggestion?
indigo sun
It's already kinda assumed that you like your own suggestion
hallow moss
so?
night mountain
ok before i say anything else
why do you want lower trike limits
and what dinosaur do you play mostly
lilac swallow
Trikes could have 20 group members and still not be a problem due to their slow speed
Maybe 20 would actually be problematic but you get the point
barren zephyr
lower trikes group... 
smh
night mountain
make trike a mid tier and also only allowed to be solo
barren zephyr
night mountain
the risk of a rex getting hurt is simply too great
barren zephyr
glad we've found a way to use the comic without getting strikes
lilac swallow
Trike: cant hunt anyone down and isnt even the strongest dino
Some random person: lOwEr TrIkE gRoUp
And who would ask for lowering trike group when there dont exist 5 trikes group
night mountain
I swear people here would make attacking a rex be considered assault and be a bannable offense
valid zephyr
You don't even see max size trike groups. I see like 2 max these days.
Where are all these servers full of trikes massacring all the rexes?
steady cradle
just make them spawn in full adult a POTATOE
no limbs no nothing
I think that would be fair
#apexrights
@night mountain SWAT will raid your house if you attack one
blazing charm
@glossy tangle Varied diets for Herbivores are planned.
glossy tangle
oh ok
vestal rune
@barren zephyr no
indigo sun
Wrong channel i think hinky
blazing charm
"playable plant" jokes aside, I'd totally play as some kind of Plant 42 monstrosity that can uproot itself and crawl around the island.
I would just blast "Mean green mother from outer space" over the mic of VOIP was a thing.
vestal rune
that wouldn't be bad lol
dieno but on land, herb think they're eating a bush but then instantly get tangled in an oversized venus fly trap
blazing charm
I think there was a giant plant monster concept from ages ago, and I'm not referring to the strain trees.
wintry cipher
@ocean vortex little thing to add on: at the same time, the GUI shows red a little before you actually start taking damage, so it sort of works in a way as to prewarn you your about to starve, or notify you your close to full. that way you have time to panic and look around first.
its helpful in that regard at least, even if a little odd about the top portion
valid zephyr
@urban fossil that would just lead to everyone turning it off as it would provide a massive advantage
urban fossil
It would provide massive headache relief when your spending 7 hours raising an Apex you sit in cricket infested bushes just waiting to get hungry/thirsty again. I'm not the only one who thinks it needs to be reworked to idk sound more ambient and less REEEEEEEEEEEEE in your ear holes!
valid zephyr
I agree that ambient noise needs to go down a bit. But putting it on a slider isn't the way forward.
will just mean 100% of players turn it off to gain an advantage
there is a glitch i've had where ambient noise vanishes, and only calls, footsteps, and other dino sounds play. It makes the game so easy it's unreal.
means you can hear a taco fart at 800m
oblique crown
You can easily just make your own isle stickers
But then again the extra money would support the devs. Isle giftshop when?
urban fossil
@valid zephyr I don't want an advantage I just want the game to be comfortable to play vibrant and entertaining the cricket ambience on loop is a bit overwhelming.
wet wing
Hoi everyone
paper oriole
wouldnt mind dilo getting a tiny shite jump like galli currently has , but it really doesnt need a jump
native nebula
the entire way background ambience works is getting rethought. there's a number of oversights that cause things to appear louder than they should currently, which I'm hoping to get fixed.
ambience is probably 40% louder than it should be currently.
viral creek
@thorny lynx Cool idea for customization, but you should probs elaborate on that suggestion, that it's a customization option and not a model change.
or else people will get salt
indigo sun
I'd love to have the option to be a vulture dilo
lilac swallow
Not fan of the idea of non feathered dinos having feather option
pulsar lake
It's an option
thorny lynx
I wish Dilo could get an update in its trot and run animation. Its feet sink into the ground when it moves around.
pulsar lake
So you can or not
indigo sun
Dilo's one of the ones where it can actually look good though
pulsar lake
Trot is really cool
indigo sun
Better than like a feathered para
pulsar lake
But running is just a faster trot
thorny lynx
I kind of wish Dilo tilted a bit more forward when it trots
lilac swallow
I know is an option, but giving the option of dilo frills is a option and no one would like it
thorny lynx
Not frills, but just feathers
Not even a full blown plumage, just maybe downy fuzz and some feathers on the arms
indigo sun
I think it could look cool
pulsar lake
In general, feathers looks good for white colors on back
viral creek
Dilo quills could be cool
pulsar lake
Idk why
thorny lynx
Velos and herreras need some feathers. They're bald af.
lilac swallow
Herrera was actually bald but thats paleo
lilac swallow
Velo does need feathers
barren zephyr
i genuienly love that Vulture look for dilo
thorny lynx
Vulture suits cerato better
violet magnet
being able to stand a chance in a 1v1 fight with an allo suits cerato pretty well
cosmic ledge
hey guys...how can i get virtual money to buy the spino?
umbral tartan
Uhh wrong chat channel sorry
oak shale
@umbral tartan what about unique mechanics that set it apart from maia and para
itll need those
oak shale
Yes but what could it bring to the table ability wise that helps it fill its role as say the hadrosaur tank if I should put it that way?
umbral tartan
That its strong in numbers
Can grow pretty fast for something of its size
Çan get eaten only by apexes
But is pretty easy for apex to kill, when alone
Also a completely different niche
And doesnt really need these mechanics to set it apart from maia and para
Maia and shant/proposed anato is like dibble and trike
umbral tartan
Well, does any dino have a mechanic like that aside from dryo, dilo sucho and rex?
umbral tartan
So not that needed right now
But upvote the suggestion pls
Its a really good idea
oak shale
Mechanics are what will help separate another of dinos from being a “clone of another” I would have put in Suggestions for mechanics so that people don’t go “what’s the point we already have shant”
Something that sets it apart from shant that’ll make it viable
blazing charm
So, just reading that Edmonto/Anato post. I'm struggling to figure out if it's a worse Para, or somethign would invalidate Para.
valid zephyr
i think it's meant to be an apex para
but yeah it would probrably just make para pointless
mental sleet
I'm more surprised he thinks Shant's going to be added to survival
blazing charm
I was actually gonna mention that.
Did you just post the same thing in both channels?
barren zephyr
seems like it lol
prime tangle
I may have, wasn't sure if they're separate
paper oriole
should maybe delete those non suggestions from suggestions lol
barren zephyr
imo dryo equivilant should be herra
barren zephyr
Why wouldn't they just tweak shants stats just like they do every other dino before they add it to survival?
jovial moss
Speed is the biggest issue with shant
could probably mmake it a semi aquatic herbivore if they add cattails and seaweed into water
barren zephyr
Really shant isnt that op as it is. It just needs its stomp fixed. The hitbox ( I know we dont have hitboxes but whatever it is) is so random. Other than that just slow it down a bit.
jovial moss
problem is shant invalidates para, and would just become a trike clone in the sense it can't outrun anything
vestal rune
^
barren zephyr
Para is invalidated as it is. Para is nothing but free food unless protected by trikes.
barren zephyr
2 or 3 carnos can shred a much larger herd of para
barren zephyr
I main carno
Nah if carno gets hit with stomp, it runs off and heals and joins the hunt again
jovial moss
idk how good or bad para is right now but I've heard from para players that it's good you jsut need to play right
but if shant was ever added I would definitely play shant over para
vestal rune
ye that's what I thought
barren zephyr
@barren zephyr We cannot add that feature yet
We need collision and locational first.
We do not want raptors to zoom in inside mothers and just steal eggs right away
will make protecting them useless.
pseudo compass
I think we should make everybody a dilo for an hour
barren zephyr
lol
lament thorn
We all saw that
barren zephyr
no
lament thorn
But honestly I think I can wait till the way AI works is changed
barren zephyr
shhh
lament thorn
Once it doesn't spawn next to people the Ava's won't really be an issue
valid zephyr
I'd prefer only the very top and bottom of the food chain to be AI. aka taco, oro, velo, and brachi
ava AI is like dryo or utah AI
should either be playable or just not included
vestal rune
why?
there need to be mid range AI so mid range carnis actually have something to hunt without relying on players
tender latch
Silencer attachments @static compass
static compass
oh yes yes, but what if you havent found that yet?
tender latch
Yeah lol
static compass
Thats quite OP, so it should be hard to find
tender latch
Yeah
static compass
or you can buy it now for a small price of £3.99
tender latch
Btw here's this, you find find it interesting
valid zephyr
If you can't rely on players for food then the map is too big for the player count.
vestal rune
it's not a problem of a map lol, how is a carni meant to survive on a low pop server?
valid zephyr
You used to be able to rely on players before AI was added on R2.
vestal rune
giving them the opportunity is the purpose of AI, and there's no good reason not to have it
ye on like, high pop servers
lament spoke
Silencers aren't as silencing as you think they would be
They definitely help but say you hear a shot from 1000 m away. A silencer knocks that down to maybe 300m. Those are arbitrary but you know what I mean
valid zephyr
Or have AI and player slots be the same slots, and when a player joins it removes the AI slot.
vestal rune
I mean, that can work
it's kinda how it already works
I'm sure with more players there'll be less AI
you still need the AI though
valid zephyr
Yeah but we have like 50 slots permanently for AI, which could be much better served if players could join to replace those AI.
AI shouldn't replace player interaction.
tender latch
25 is good
vestal rune
ye but it should replace players for food if there isn't any
vestal rune
and we'll also need predator AI, to not make players growing a breeze on low pop servers like it is now
valid zephyr
the current AI is the cause of a huge amount of balance problems in the current patch.
tender latch
Especially Ava xD
valid zephyr
just makes rexes and gigas a joke to grow
vestal rune
and the game would probably be better without it with smaller maps
ye I agree fully
so we need better AI
valid zephyr
back on thenyaw and before avas were in, it so a lot more fun.
tender latch
Acro AI
valid zephyr
sad that ava isn't playable tbh.
tender latch
Btw I'm going back to #401464048610312195
vestal rune
'caus such a small map had so much AI that it was a breeze
was way better when there was no AI
valid zephyr
a small map meant more apexes were found while growing, and got eaten
vestal rune
also, ava is sort of just a smaller dibble, probably why it's not playable
valid zephyr
i saw a lot less apexes on thenyaw
vestal rune
I didn't
though it also doesn't help that other changes made apexes growing easier, like better subs and all that
lament thorn
I saw apexes just raising children on oros in a corner
valid zephyr
juvie rexes living on oros i don't find an issue
it's the fact that subs and adults can continue to sit in bushes eating the AI their entire life
juvies kind of need somthing in the food chain below them
wet wing
Hello
vestal rune
it should still be difficult to live on them though
lilac swallow
Ais not spawning around people
wet wing
I am sad. Cuz I was an alpha Male of a gali pack and I died cuz of falling.
lilac swallow
Just as simple as that
wet wing
I miss them so much
indigo sun
Dark lord this isnt really the channel to talk about that
wet wing
Sorry
lilac swallow
Do you really think that #general-feedback-discussion is the proper Channel for that?
wet wing
Sorry
wet wing
Ok
valid zephyr
what should juvies live on if they can't live on tacos and oros?
they're too small to kill anything, especially juvie utahs
lament thorn
I don't mean they shouldn't hunt the AI I just mean rely completely on it
It would be nice if they could scavenge and hunt each other too
valid zephyr
pity the player density is so much too low to allow that
barren zephyr
Back before ai I remember playing on v3 and growing my rex by scavenging the corpses at little swamp
It was much more rewarding to finally make it to adult.
What we have now isn't artificial intelligence. It is just food that spawns next to you when you are hungry.
barren zephyr
if only there was a smaller map with a 200 player count..
hard pike
Just reading the post on shant being replaced by edmonto, honestly even if shant survives into survival mode lol...i dont get why people think shant is so very op, it's stomp uses 1/3 of its total stamina, all it takes is a rex to break its leg and its pretty much done, smart rexes can do it easily enough. more to the point what is wrong with having a herbivore that can actually take on apexes? its an apex herbivore after all? why do people only want herbivores to be an easy kill for apexes?? shant is one of the only creatures that provides a decent challenge with a high reward if you succeed. there are many benifits to having a massive yet slow creature, plus it keeps para and maia worth playing as they are fast yet weak shant is strong yet slow, it allows herbivores to meat shield off a large tank where other wise they are on their own in a world that runs them down and eats them all day long. an edmonto would make less sense in my opinion.. why fill the server with nothing but easy to kill herbs?? all shant needs it to have its stomp radius fixed, just like the giga's bite radius..currently they are both broken. there needs to be a few herbivores that apex carnis have to respect and keeps them all humble. lol thats my two bits anyways.
willow zealot
@hard pike what post?
barren zephyr
@hard pike I mostly agree. The problem is alot of players that play Shant do not play it like a herbivore. Instead they use the shant to hunt down other players, (both carnivores and herbivores.)
I think Shant does need its speed lowered a bit, it is quite fast for its size.
oak shale
Scroll up alittle
barren zephyr
@paper oriole No
paper oriole
Yes
barren zephyr
Dragon game
indigo sun
Go play emberfall when it comes out if you want dragons. This isn't fantasy.
paper oriole
Nooo
barren zephyr
no
oak shale
Eww
edgy furnace
this is a dinosaur game not a fantasy game with dragons lmao
oak shale
descustang
paper oriole
Pretend pterandon is a dragon
edgy furnace
no they arent
paper oriole
No
indigo sun
...
paper oriole
Lmao
indigo sun
What
paper oriole
U srs
paper oriole
No
indigo sun
No theyre not
barren zephyr
What?!
night mountain
sounds too ARK for me tho
barren zephyr
Huhå
somber wraith
Dinosaurs are real
oak shale
Dragons were actually real
barren zephyr
Never knew that
indigo sun
This cant be an actual conversation, can it?
somber wraith
i mean birds are dinosaurus too
edgy furnace
they arent but ok
somber wraith
I feel like this is just a bait at this point
lament thorn
Y'all are being so trolled right now
barren zephyr
Dragons are real
indigo sun
Dont waste your time with him, he's trolling you
brittle bough
i just walked in to suggestion discussion and it's ablaze with trolls what is happening lmao
somber wraith
hes hoping he'll catch someone
pale prairie
i saw a man fly whilst watching superman the other day, guess that means people can fly now 🤷
willow zealot
Why do I come in suggestion discussion to see a fishing pole
barren zephyr
Yes
oak shale
Seriously why would you post that
somber wraith
people baiting
paper oriole
The admins are gonna be dragon his ass out the door
brittle bough
no you weren't, you posted a suggestion lol
barren zephyr
Der waff waff
oak shale
Oh no
night mountain
hurry delet before mods purge you
brittle bough
it's either serious or you're posting troll suggestions
oak shale
.supreme why
paper oriole
:D
paper oriole
Had to
barren zephyr
@oak shale are you french
oak shale
Nope
night mountain
if you experimented with a dinosaur and ended up with a dragon i'd call that a success lol
indigo sun
Dragons dont belong in the isle. It seriously would not look right or make any sense whatsoever in a dinosaur game, regardless of failed experiments
barren zephyr
Or some dragon type creature
brittle bough
just wait for emberfall fam
night mountain
add yi qi
lilac swallow
As a huge dragon fan
NO
indigo sun
There is no creature on earth I can think of that remotely looked like a dragon
Besides maybe pterosaurs
brittle bough
yeah there's no six limbed large animals
you might get close to a wyvern at the very, very most
wyverns wouldn't suit the isle either tho
indigo sun
A dragon game
night mountain
please
indigo sun
Where you play as a dragon
barren zephyr
Didnt find much info
night mountain
too small but whatever
lilac swallow
A "the isle with dragons"
barren zephyr
Oh
spiral pond
Yes what could go wrong with giving hypos firebreath and wings
barren zephyr
@spiral pond Godzilla?
spiral pond
?
indigo sun
I'm sorry did godzilla secretly have wings?
oak shale
Godzilla doesn’t have wings casual
indigo sun
Tf?
night mountain
also to be FAIR a dragon isn't really less realistic than a psychic spino that controls the weather
oak shale
spiral pond
True
night mountain
not that i want dragons lol
indigo sun
Still had a realistic base creature
spiral pond
But at least they fit the lore
brittle bough
a dragon can be made realistic yeah, but still, ehh
indigo sun
Spino exists, lore modified it
brittle bough
doesn't suit what the isle is going for
lilac swallow
I want dragons
On other game
brittle bough
or a mod lul
spiral pond
If all mods will be accepted into the game we will have a lot of furries around here
night mountain
😉
barren zephyr
Will continue evolve
indigo sun
And they had to wait a long ass time to make features
barren zephyr
In a good way
hard pike
@willow zealot the suggestion made by Quibli in suggestions is what i am referring to. lol
there..got it to work lol not sure why it wasn't earlier lol couldn't post a reply.
willow zealot
Lol
tepid light
cut it out plz
lilac swallow
Yes pls
amber birch
Haha :p ye
tepid light
and #paleotalk @amber birch
amber birch
Sure thing, I tried to start a discussion but someone is being sassy
About feathers...
lilac swallow
Again this channel is about disscusing suggestions
Not disscusing whatever you want
teal grotto
@lilac swallow there is a game that got owner transferred and is being made as we speak.
Has dragons too
feral wedge
There was already one warning. Go to appropriate channels if you wish to continue.
night mountain
The respawning thing is already possible just no one does it
umbral tartan
I dunno man
cyan flame
I guess they want that number instead of just 120?
spiral ravine
250 on v3?
spiral ravine
on hope maybe, if it turns out to be much bigger than v3
umbral tartan
Which it will
spiral ravine
was it confirmed
dense orchid
Hope will be less bigger
umbral tartan
???
It was confirmed to be bigger
And move this over to #401464048610312195
Before admins get the mega angerree
night mountain
it means most people are hoping for 250 to be the limit
spiral ravine
250 on v3 is ridiculous imo
I'd listen to 150 but 120 is the sweet spot
but I guess we'll see how the recode changes things
tepid light
because you are thinking of v3, I bet most of them had the new map in mind
night mountain
yeah was talking new map, but even 200 on v3 can seem pretty empty if you arent at a hotspot
spiral ravine
when ppl move in mega packs any map will seem empty
and that's what happens on those 200 player servers
but I agree if hope is a lot bigger than v3, 250 player cap might work
valid zephyr
Why does everyone hate Unrasu's idea? Being able to enable and disable dinos on private servers is a good idea so people can customise their server to the experience they want.
More customisation is a good thing.
tepid light
it's already possible to do that
night mountain
Yeah its 100% possible, just no one chooses to do it.
cyan flame
Wonder if that's not more because people don't know it can be done
Still, not sure how that makes the idea bad, would be more proper to respond with "It can be done" as you did but hey.. :p
night mountain
I -think?- most server owners know, but the only example of it I can think of is the kindergarden dm and also nycta's dm turning off dryo and taco
cyan flame
Huh, maybe you're right, just seems like it would be more common, especially since that "No apex" server was a thing. Well, in theory at least.. :p
Still, good to know it can be done, now to find someone willing to try it out!
valid zephyr
yeah suprised there arn't more no apex servers
night mountain
they turned it off because 2 dryos can crash a server super easy if they feel like it lol
night mountain
yeah lol
barren zephyr
@thorny idol sorry but your suggestion is too extreme
night mountain
well its already in the game so
paper oriole
hell yea i wanna flip a boat and eat humans as a deino
indigo sun
You can disable dinosaurs on servers already i think
night mountain
yes it is
just no one does it
you can do what hes suggesting for example by removing rex and only injecting them land letting them breed like is done with sandbox species
brittle bough
@barren zephyr theres already a solution for this, its called dont relax until you know you can, pay attention to your surroundings, and dont lay out in the open unless you're ready to watch all around yourself.
now if this quick-get-up maybe took a chunk of stamina i might be a bit more into it, since at times its a bit silly to leisurely moan your maia ass up while something is biting you, but a no-cost quick get up for the purpose of dealing with ambushes is just forgiving a lack of awareness imo
wintry cipher
Realism and gameplay balance are two different things. If you get caught with your pants down or in this case, laying down, unawares, its on you.
wintry cipher
@pulsar lake if your correctly positioned to begin with youll only need like 2 seconds to even kill something. it takes a good 15-20 to fill up water at the least when most go to drink, so i wouldnt worry too much about that.
pulsar lake
Yeah
But some dinosaurs like para take like 2 second to be full
After I think thirsty should be more current than now
Not a lot but something like you can make the distance between 2 lakes oi more
*or more
night mountain
yeah lets make cama take 6 hours to drink instead of the 20 minutes it does now
paper oriole
give everybody cama and spino drink time
pulsar lake
Not like that
But like idk allo
Utah
Or cerato
Trike
Maia
They take a good time I think
Nut para it just tuch water and he is full
After I think you should be 50% all 30 minutes so 100% of water is like an hours
Or a new system
paper oriole
i think more vulnerable and slow dinos should have the liberty to at least drink fast still, more fleet footed dinos could have longer drinking though like utah and galli currently do
and rex, make rex take a long time to drink because fuck rex
vestal rune
@paper oriole problem with sleeping is, this game currently has a problem of encouraging you to rest and do nothing. Ideally we'd like to move away from this and a sleep mechanic would just encourage it
pulsar lake
75% reduction growth speed
paper oriole
aye i thought about that, i'm hoping though that there will be things in place later on that discourage lounging around like the addition of aggro AI and affinity
and yea the growth reduction
vestal rune
ye
but the thing is, adding a mechanic which encourages you to do nothing, even with growth reduction, signals to the player that lounging around is what you're meant to do
resting is all we really need
pulsar lake
And AI should have another system of spawn that will encourage people to go on some area to find AI
vestal rune
I do like the idea of using sleep to discourage doing nothing though
paper oriole
random biome based AI spawns rather than sitting under a tree waiting for an ava to run into you
vestal rune
that will be how it'll be in the future
paper oriole
and the snoring while sleeping alone is a risk too because it'd help give out location of afk juvies if somebody is walking past lol
sick crescent
paper oriole
when youre walking by gem pond and hear snoring 
jolly willow
sleeping is big hard to add and likely never will be added
its not exactly like minecraft where you can just have everyone sleep at the same time and move time lol
certainly not with 100 - 200 players
vestal rune
they're not doing sleeping to skip time, they meant it as a way to recover health and stam faster
but being unable to do anything and being sensory deprived isn't exactly fun
jolly willow
like i said tho
hard to implement/make use of lol
also what if like idk
accidental sleeping?
someone goes in battle and goes to reat while their pack keeps on
accidentally snoozes
maybe a different button entirely i guess.
earnest vale
Hi there, the dev team have a "roadmap" with releases and what are they are working for future releases too?
indigo sun
Are you asking if there is a roadmap? Or are you stating there is one?
paper oriole
Didnt they somewhat recently add more water sources to V3 already
Its super easy to find water from pretty much every spawn now
barren zephyr
I thought the sleep mechanic was already added. The logout button
paper oriole
har har har
barren zephyr
@main sandal because they are fishers doesnt mean they are excluded from the laws of energy
indigo sun
Things that fish and swim still get tired from the amount of energy expended by swimming. I could understand a water resting animation where they dont do anything to propel themselves and could slowly gain stamina from that, but not while physically swimming
main sandal
@barren zephyr @indigo sun
your opinions make sense, i just had nothing to do and i sent something this and the truth. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
indigo sun
@summer mist more creatures will be added to the game, like deinosuchus, spinosaurus, stegosaurus and pteranodon. Unfortunately though, we have to wait for the recode to be over before we can get those things as the code can't support 3/4 of those things and their necessary mechanics
night mountain
Swimming for deino should be like walking
can go however long as long as it isn't doing it faster than a slow cruise
and no drowning when it hits 0
barren zephyr
@indigo sun besides Deino those are in already jsut non survival ...
indigo sun
They'll be added to survival, which is generally the mode most people beg for dinosaurs for
night mountain
its gonna be crazy dumb if deino cant just float there in the water and regain stam, or if it drowns when it hits 0
summer mist
@main sandal spino and stego are already on the game , not in survival but you can play them , im talking about investing into different dinos we havent seen yet to give everyone sum fresh dino legs to play and keep the game freash and enjoyable over long periods
barren zephyr
but entirely new dinos to the game would be alot better for all as alot of people plays servers where spinos and such are accessible
summer mist
opps never mind haha
indigo sun
More things are coming it's just a matter of patience. And unfortunately you cant just say "add stuff," according to the pinned messages from admins. What are some mid tiers or apexes you'd like to see in the game and what role would they fill?
barren zephyr
well the answer to that would be an essay sadly ... and as for the things coming? Deino and Ptera is about it
indigo sun
That's all we know of currently, they could very well have plans to add other dinosaurs in that we're unaware of at this time
barren zephyr
hopefully yes would be great
summer mist
Yutyrannus , Carcharodontosaurus , megolasaurs , Iguanodon , troodon , Diplodocus , Gastonia i think these would all fit nicely into the game without a problem bring alot more fun the the mid teirs and to the herbis , just want sum more diversity to the game even if its looks or play style , all dinos should be balanced so nothing sound be a dead pic for being op or better unless their apexs of course nut adding different dinos from different periods would make game fresh
indigo sun
Carcharodontosaurus wont be added, considering it literally became one of the giga lifestage models unfortunately, the others you could make a valid case for but you really do need more than "diversity" for a proper suggestion. Stats, possible predators and prey, and how they'd fit in the ecosystem properly with other creatures
paper oriole
let's let them make use of the dinos they have hidden away in the database before we start asking for them to scratch model new shit in categories we already have
there's a pretty good number of unused assets like kentrosaurus, styracosaurus, rugops, etc
summer mist
well troodon and meglosaurs could both be your night hunters trodon was noun for having a venoms bite so i could be smaller than a utah but have a more potent bite making it able to kill juvies utahs dilos dryos and so on and in packs if skilled maybe subs and ceratos , they would be quick but not insaly fast meglosaurs would be simlier to cerato bit slower but deal more damge and be a mid tier killer , yutyrannus keep their feathers to make them look cool , they were around 30 ft long and 1-2 tons so another mid tier killer that in packs could be a force to fear , iguandon would be a tank , could take sum heavy damger no really dealing huge amounts but enough to kill and smaller then a allo , diplodocus noun for its whiping tail , have them be sligher smaller then normal so they can fight apexs without destroying them completely make them a really good and hard fight so apexs have somthing to look forward to when they see one , gastonia could be a bleed machine for the herbis have thesame punch as a stego and same tankness as an anky
paper oriole
we already have camara in the spot you seem to be suggesting for diplo, and camara too is undersized
diplo or a titanosaur imo could make for a good "legendary" herbi since carnivores are getting the deino
barren zephyr
yeah and herrera would make more sense than troodon
indigo sun
Dilophosaurus is a night hunter already and will be getting venom eventually to replace its high bleed
summer mist
need somthing to counter dilos
barren zephyr
Troodon was not known for having a venomous bite.
thats just made up by Jurassic Park
just like dilophosaurus's "frill"
paper oriole
yea we already have the herrera asset, no need to make a whole new "smaller than utah juvie killer" when herrera could simply be worked into survival
indigo sun
Was troodon in jurassic park?
summer mist
herrera wasnt one of the smartest dinos and didnt have a potent bite
indigo sun
Ah
barren zephyr
and it was meant to be venemous
paper oriole
gameplay > realism
barren zephyr
yeah but irl doesnt matter much
summer mist
bro google a troodon
paper oriole
why make a whole new model for 5k just to have something a herrera could fill the role of
summer mist
wow your a real smart guy Xd
barren zephyr
its genus got split up
to two
latenivenatrix and stenonychosaurus
anyways
No need for troodon
indigo sun
I see nothing about venom so idk what you mean by "known for a venomous bite"
summer mist
becuase the herrara doesnt fit the role it was a useless dino
barren zephyr
@indigo sun <-
Its made up by jurassic park.
the same way jurassic park made up the frill thing
paper oriole
herrera would fill juvie killer + scavenger + possible egg thieving if that is added pretty well, no need to dump thousands on new troodon model
night mountain
how is it any more useless than a small dinosaur that didnt even exist 
indigo sun
Theyre the same size, and its not like herrera was ever balanced properly
summer mist
okay herra it is then , but still thats not my point
night mountain
idk the last thing I want though are MORE generic theropods with slight differences
yuyu could be neat if it had a cold tolerance mechanic or somethin tho
I also want diplo for sure, wanna whip a rex thats 2 miles away lmao
summer mist
just more dinos to play with different play syles and looks
indigo sun
Megalosaurus just seems like a slightly different allo if we're saying it's a mid tier
barren zephyr
diplo isnt a bad idea tho
indigo sun
Diplo i like
barren zephyr
there is alreay a model for it iirc
paper oriole
Brontosaurus, Kentrosaurus, Monolophosaurus, Plateosaurus, Protoceratops, Styracosaurus, Compsognathus, Corythosaurus, Pachyrhinosaurus, Rugops
think these are dinos in database
meager agate
Is there no general chat in this server?
paper oriole
with models that are currently not used
barren zephyr
oh yeah
indigo sun
#401470471750811669 or #401464048610312195 is your general chats
barren zephyr
it would be cool to see rugops return as ai
paper oriole
those models should be priority before adding more stuff that is in those tiers
meager agate
Cheers
paper oriole
compy would be hellish gameplay lol i'd do it
summer mist
just need for variety in all the tiers on both sides to make the game fresh , me and my buddy when we jump on we always take 10-15 mins to decide what dino to be cause we have been them all 10-15 times
indigo sun
Gastonia i could maybe see as a future addition
barren zephyr
compy as AI
but your point about there needing to be more varied gameplay is a good one, most of the creatures play the same due to the lack of gameplay mechanics, this should change post recode
night mountain
pelagornis is coming to add varied gameplay 😉
paper oriole
i wanna see this lil' shit running around in game yes
i'm sure they'll make use of the models that have stored away, or at least most of them
indigo sun
Flyers will add variety in the game
summer mist
thank you , all i want is to sweat on this game for so long that my ass goes num XD i love this game and i want to see it florish
barren zephyr
Apatosaurus Diplodocus
paper oriole
i wanna see my boi nigersaurus but i know i probably never will lol
night mountain
god i want niger so bad
paper oriole
niger is god
night mountain
pull a dibble and make it like 3x bigger
barren zephyr
good point
paper oriole
Hyper Niger
night mountain
creates extreme suction and can suck the skin off a rex instantly like walrus do to seals and belugas
indigo sun
Wait what the fuck do walruses do?
night mountain
create enough suction to suck a hole in plywood and deglove a seal
grave karma
tentacle are you deleting the pictures or are the mods
night mountain
lol i thought better of it, prolly too offtopic, here ill post about walrus being terrifying in offtopic
sick crescent
But
night mountain
lol reactive anger suggestions
minor basalt
Lol
night mountain
the best way to play the game is to spam random nest invites and just refuse to feed anyone you hatch
paper oriole
nest in a really shit spot like behind the lava in canyon on thenyaw and just ditch the rando invite hatchlings that thought they were getting a group invite
paper oriole
lol they posted it in feedback too
paper oriole
Give galli herrera speed
crimson phoenix
@frigid jacinth , when shant comes to survival I don't thing they will be overpowered. They might get there stomp toned down to no longer be able to one shot apexes, but even if they still can, acros/dilos still can kill lone/small groups of shants
also they will probable have a longer growth time then the current growth (6 hours)
grave karma
shant isnt even confirmed
crimson phoenix
yea I haven't heard that shant is coming to survival either, I'm just talking in the same terms he is
also why are people saying bleed should cripple targets? it already essentially does, with it dealing more damage to moving players
grave karma
only the dinos that are planned for survival are balanced/going to be balanced
acro is most likely not coming to survival considering its a giga clone
crimson phoenix
giga and acro only seem to be similar (to me) in that they are bleeders , and yea acro is hopefully going to ai
and tentacle mobster, nothing can take on large groups of shants atm (pls bring down the hypos on em)
crimson phoenix
@keen trail , Rex will always have bone break (BB) as the devs left it with BB when they started reworking the BB mechanic as the felt rex needed it to survive
olso @edgy furnace don't be mean, people can be nested as dinosaurs for free on some servers and people can spend there money however they want
keen trail
@edgy furnace I use patreon to get stuff... as several people do...
edgy furnace
Ah
I thought it was one of those stupid ass things where you just have to pay to play as certain dinosaurs and just for the dinosaur not a Patreon perk or something my bad
And yeah Rex is definitely not gonna have its bonebreak removed
still temple
Nigersaurus is epic
valid flower
lilac swallow
With 30 seconds of stam if Rex kills you is not being op nor too fast, is just you not being aware
crimson phoenix
@lilac swallow not everyone can be scanning the trees on Thenya 24/7 in the dark of night with their volume maxed, but this game (at least to me) isn't supposed to be balanced, if a rex or any ambushing predator (same tier or above) sees you before you see it your gonna die
lilac swallow
Well It is a survival game, if an ambush predator ambushes you you are dead
crimson phoenix
also I don't think the devs are going to make any of the dinos have a longer smell range than the other dinos (im pretty sure the all have the same range)
crimson phoenix
I don't play pachy so I wouldn't know, but as a dryo it feels like you can smell bushes from a mile a way, but im pretty sure it's just as far when im a dibble
crimson phoenix
But on another note, @teal grotto, it would be completely redundant and highly abuseable in my opinion to not be able to die from fall damage
minor basalt
Just watch where you're going and don't go walking on risky cliffs
crimson phoenix
if your left with just 1 hp you will die to anything near you (my experience is most players only fall off things when they are running away from something) and it would make it so dinos could just tumble down hills like it's nothing, the slipping mechanic is a method to prevent dinosaurs that aren't supposed to be climbing steep ass hills from doing such
and don't even get me started on dinos like dilo and maia if this was a mechanic, they could just yeet themselves off the canyon on v3 to get away from things like allos, heal way faster and get away
lilac swallow
Carno currently does and everyone hate it
crimson phoenix
yea carnos can fall pretty far without breaking there legs
similar with dilos but it's less reliable for them to keep their ankles
crimson phoenix
Dryo and utah juvies are already pretty much immune to fall damage
lilac swallow
Afeter playing both carno and utah, utah isnt inmune to fall at all
crimson phoenix
and also flyers will be pretty much immune to fall damage if they can just hover before landing
lilac swallow
Is just resistant to fall
But carno can very well jump off a canyon and survive with just a Broken leg
crimson phoenix
im talking about the juvie utah, i've broken my leg too many times as utah (i'm dumb with jumps)
lilac swallow
Idk about juvie utah, im on sneaky mode while juv utah
teal grotto
Im talking about a certain distance
crimson phoenix
but to entertain the idea of not dying to falls, I think the only way to balance this would be having BB go above 15 to punish falling in a way other than death. like if you fell from a height that you would die from now, you would go up to like 20 or 30 BB
teal grotto
Like something that shouldent kill you outright but does because fall damage is just very unrealistic.
crimson phoenix
if your talking about on slopes where you slip and just glide down to your death, I hope they add tumbling animations because that's what is happening
lilac swallow
You realize that even a dryo is bigger than a human?
crimson phoenix
a near 7 ton rex or 8 ton trike rolling down a hill would probable be fatal
lilac swallow
Because fall dmg is actually forgiving
teal grotto
Slopes that shouldent kill you Because you slipped on them because reasons.
You know what im talking about
crimson phoenix
yea I know how big dryos are
teal grotto
Dont get me started on falling into water lol
lilac swallow
Honestly if you slipped you were problably were you shouldnt be
teal grotto
Or you know your rubber banding then the game decides to yeet you off a cliff
Little shit like that lol
crimson phoenix
Devs shouldn't balance fall damage around a bug
lilac swallow
I know lagg is shit, i have It sometimes but reducing fall dmg just for lagging people isnt ok
crimson phoenix
I know what your talking about, there are times that regardless of what buttons you press you just go in one direction, this is a bug and is probable going to be gone with the recode
teal grotto
You also should take into account the tiny knee rocks that stops a 6 ton dinosaur
lilac swallow
I think is a bug related to lagg
night mountain
make bb permanent if you rack up enough breaking damage lol
crimson phoenix
Ive never seen apex carnivores die from falling off rocks in the size your talking about, ive seen trikes die from rocks that are taller than them, but in reality if an animal of that size fall that far they aren't gonna have a fun time
teal grotto
They will break there legs at most
Or strain them
Im just saying. Break the ankles dont outrite kill them for a drop off
prime tangle
I wonder if the body drag mechanic would be linked to the bite attack. Like if I did the bite towards the corpse it would auto lock to the body followed by the animations for it.
lilac swallow
8 ton animal falling 3 metter is a dead animal
teal grotto
Trikes one size of them.. Drops off have it set to give the victim again final screen with a broken leg that lasts double in timer.
Yeah but 1 problem with that
You shouldent yeet off a rock that rock should be kicked
Not the other way around
crimson phoenix
I am very confused as to what your saying DeathDragon
lilac swallow
These anklr rock may perfectly weight 1 ton
teal grotto
Okay ankle rocks know of them right?
Those rocks aren't 1 ton
Compare them to a human cause they are not 1 ton
lilac swallow
You are understimating the density of the rock
teal grotto
I have those rocks in my yard I can move them on my own
lilac swallow
And rocks arent entirely visible
lilac swallow
You are comparing your human size to a rock when un the game you are even as a dryo bigger than a human
teal grotto
And im pretty sure a 8 to 6 ton dingo could move a rock that small
Dino*
Autocorrect needs a nerf
lilac swallow
Oh a car, which is basically a huge Air buble(wich gives cars a huge size compared to their weight)
crimson phoenix
dryo weighs 700 KG, that's very close to a ton, and most the rocks that can cause people to break their legs are much larger than a dryo, and stone is much heavier than flesh
lilac swallow
And still a 8 ton animal cant Kick a 1 ton rock and yeet it, as a 80kg human my leggs arent strong enought to yeet a 10kg rock with a single kick
Without hurting my feet
crimson phoenix
also I feel running into these rocks and breaking your leg is realistic, I mean have you ever walked into something in the dark? it really hurts when we get forced to a stop by something of comparable mass
lilac swallow
The only solution to ankle rock would be making big dinos able to simply walk over them
crimson phoenix
there are some rocks that dinos should be able to step over (carnos gets stuck on rocks that it's feet visible go higher than), but I imagine that this will be fixed with the recode.
lilac swallow
Problably not with recode, but definitely at some point
crimson phoenix
Idk how many doodad/assets they have for rocks, but I've noticed seeing the same rock around the V3 map a lot, so adjusting rock collision hitboxes to be more appropriate doesn't seem to difficult
night mountain
Easy solution is have large dinosaurs not collide with small rocks at all
umbral tartan
no let them collide
night mountain
make rex ragdoll into the ground if it runs into any rock
still temple
ye, large dinosaurs should be able to ignore rly small rocks. But medium sized rocks still needs collision
elfin oyster
playing a really cool dinosaur game ”what about these rocks...”
valid zephyr
I prefer large dinos struggling with rocks. means small dinos can run into dense rocks to flee.
a rex shouldn't be walking into some dense rocky forest and expect to move through as easy as a dryo
jovial saddle
So basically make a smaller giga
And make it hella weak compared to the other mega theropods
Lurdusaurus sounds like a much better suggestion
jovial moss
Adding that mid tier carnivore would just totally invalidate sucho
Might as well just buff sucho to 4000 kg instead
jovial saddle
That would also mean having to give Carcharodontosaurus a big ass downsize
barren zephyr
concavenator
lilac swallow
Carchar is just a giga with another name, is Closer to giga than even tarbo to rex
valid zephyr
it will probs end up as a giga dlc reskin or somthing
languid ember
The speed on him in that suggestion is what tops it all, 36 km/h would oof every midtier
barren zephyr
i wish that there was a troodontid in game
paper oriole
they should rework herrera into survival before thinkin about troodonts tbh
valid zephyr
Yep if kentro gets in it would be a slow small tier which is a death sentence. Something which makes things not want to eat it would be good.
night mountain
That'd be a fun niche, slow small tier and apexs can totally kill you but don't really like to try since you can potentially cripple them in the process
jovial moss
Imagine a giga mistaking a kentro as a sub stego and regretting its entire life when it bites down
jovial moss
Perfect
night mountain
also would give it the niche of the mixed herd member thats kinda off in the distance since no one would want you too close
valid zephyr
means that a rex couldn't just wipe an entire herd of kentros, despite them being small tier, as it would rack up too much bleed or somthing
but they're too small and weak to go on the offence
elfin oyster
@narrow verge I really think people would just use that, even if they arent deaf. Since adding captions on top of everything would make the game a hell of a lot easier. So adding captions and making it more deaf friendly would also make the game super duper easy, makes it REALLY hard for people to sneak up on you.
So I dont really think its a good idea making the game more deaf friendly sadly.
brittle bough
yeeah theres not really any way of visually depicting sound that cant be exploited, at least none that i can think of
valid zephyr
sound is so important in this game. i've not got directional speakers and it makes playing and finding people tons more challenging
would be nice if they could find some way to make it more friendly to hearing impaired people though
elfin oyster
Dont think its a possibilty thats all
brittle bough
maybe a specific dinosaur could have a visual indicator of sound? probably a smaller dinosaur to make it not world-ending, but thats all ive got. like, have that be one of its perks, really good hearing.
elfin oyster
And I doubt the team is very educated on the subject either, so it would be hard for them to come up with solutions
And restricting the hearing impaired to one dino basically isnt exactly the best solution
brittle bough
its more 'at least the hearing impaired would have something to work with'
otherwise i guess they could stick to plains-dwelling dinosaurs so they're equipped to stay in the open and use their eyes more than their ears
maia and carno, those sorts
elfin oyster
I mean, MAYBE you could have an option that enables caption but disables smell, and you could choose if you want to take that big ass counterweight or not.
Since captions is so OP.
brittle bough
have that be an option that requires logging out to change, so you dont just flip between them constantly lol
elfin oyster
Well yeah obviously make it a main menue option
brittle bough
feels kind of bad to punish the impaired in such a way tho, taking away something they can see
but eh
elfin oyster
Also, Im not even sure captions would solve things for the hearing impaired. Like they still wouldnt be able to tell directions
brittle bough
perhaps a half life-esque damage indicator for sound? like, the directional.. thing.
elfin oyster
Would still be a bit OP, so we still need some counterweight for it
indigo sun
A way to do it could be a visual indicator on the screen, not exactly subtitles
waves on the side of the screen noise is coming from. With different colors for each thing that makes the noise or perhaps varying sizes/opacity for the creature and its distance