maybe its like only you can see if theyre feathered or not but the other players are what they have chosen
#general-feedback-discussion
barren zephyr
It would definitely be different thats for sure
But These are man made dinos so who knows mate
blazing charm
@barren zephyr Was not expecting you to literally copy and paste what I wrote before, not entirely sure how I feel about that but, you do you.
blazing charm
I'm not too bothered, but i'd probably work on the idea a little more since what I initially wrote there was a bit vague.
barren zephyr
Yea your point of view is better sorry mate
blazing charm
All good.
valid zephyr
@neon tide It used to be. Not sure why it isn't anymore.
neon tide
ah didn't know, would love it being readded
brittle bough
@nimble yoke alberto isnt in survival, and is thus liable to be unfinished/unbalanced/etc
cyan token
@barren zephyr a bit late, but i dont think the creature from the avatar movie is a fit for a type h-pteranodon
nimble yoke
@brittle bough, then why can the spino?
brittle bough
not all non-survivals are created equally
all of them can be unfinished/unbalanced, they may not necessarily be so, but they can be
vestal rune
can alberto not smell?
nimble yoke
nope.
vestal rune
oh actually that's not surprising, alberto actually never even made it into progression didn't it?
nimble yoke
I don't remeber, I just think it would be a great alternative for people who like sub rex gameplay but not adult rex.
sick crescent
Damn
grave karma
damn anyone remember the old progression trees?
like bleeder, crusher, fisher, venom
nimble yoke
yes and I agree, cerato needs a buff.
barren zephyr
cerato and pachy could do with a bleed resistance/heal buff
also how does anybody feel about pachy being able to breack things, such as small trees or door entrances
grand brook
how does it die easily to fall damage though?
valid flower
Yes, I fell 2 feet from a cliff and died instantly
instead of breaking my leg
which is unrealistic af.
grand brook
seriously?
barren zephyr
are you sure you fell 2 feet
grand brook
maybe a bug perhaps but the utah can fall from high places and land undamaged
barren zephyr
^
barren zephyr
It was a bug then
valid flower
you'd be suprised
valid flower
Not even a rex could die from that fall
barren zephyr
Its a bug[2]
grand brook
probably a bug then
valid flower
Damn....
grand brook
sometimes happens, same with hitboxes
the game will be more optimized once the recode is done so many bugs probably will go aswell
barren zephyr
A flare lol 😂
An actual one
@barren zephyr So basically better A.I mate?
Because A.I right now is a lot dull
grand brook
honestly seeing ai of playable species is...uncanny in a way?
maybe if it was from other non playable dinos perhaps
neat flicker
@sleek anchor #1527 Troll suggestions aren't allowed
grand brook
and bigger ai specially the type you describe will only increase the number of carnivores, and herbivores will be even more difficult to grow
barren zephyr
Well their will be different Herds of nonsurivial dinos and survival
paper oriole
Eeew people who react to their own suggestions
wintry cipher
Mhm. I saw lots of plains today and it's a patchwork of dark and light greens
barren zephyr
Gotcha, yea The Isle’s grass is fine but anything can always get better and it does need some work and I think its very obvious
wintry cipher
Mhm
azure viper
Kinda wish they let carnis be full white :I
How is my giga going to be a glorious indominus rex wannabe if it's color is a trash grey/whiteish mix
brittle bough
about the utah fall damage thing, ive definitely had that happen; fell from a great height with a broken leg, fell half the height later and died on impact from full health. its just buggy and inconsistent is all, rather than an intended thing
crimson phoenix
not sure if your just trolling, PaoDeQuejo, but a female giga with the skin Utah 2, Utah 2 ,Utah 2, Carno 2 is pretty accurate to the indoms colors
yea fall damage is just buggy right now, dilos can fall from really high and walk away unscathed while other times they will fall half their height and die
brittle bough
little did you know, a trike attacked a tree somewhere across the map
crimson phoenix
yes, not a shitbox at all, dem horns
valid zephyr
@barren zephyr I agree that AI has caused huge problems. Trouble is as you've mentioned, V3 is just too large to not have it.
barren zephyr
well yeah, but v3 sized maps never worth to play on
honestly
its too random
sometimes you literally doesnt see any dinosaur in a 3 hours of gameplay
valid zephyr
The combination of massive map which is easy to hide on and not see players for days, along with AI delivery via helicoptor the second you get hungry just results in the sever being a sea of rexes and gigas.
Yeah I often go entire play sessions seeing nothing
Thenyaw or R2 without AI was so much better imo. There was tons of action, and AI wasn't needed for carnis to eat.
barren zephyr
rn the game isnt as fun as it used to be
in the old days
but hopefully this will change after recode
wich probably will come before 2020 hits
xd
valid zephyr
Keep hearing about how the new map is apparently bigger than V3, which will make the games issues even worse.
barren zephyr
Well we don't know how it will work out if we have flyers and aquatics
but yeah, from this very few info, bigger map than v3 probably will give you the worst experience
valid zephyr
Good chunk of players will be ptera so basically not in game, and the map being much larger means you won't see anyone in weeks.
barren zephyr
Isle needs thenyaw or maybe a bit bigger map
and thats all
every other big maps is a ghost town
valid zephyr
I loved Thenyaws size, but the map itself was meh.
No good sized water sources for suchos, no open plains areas.
barren zephyr
I like how some retarded people are can't understand the meaning of my suggestion
probably they are maining rexes and gigas in a bush
and afking for 7 hours
😂
valid zephyr
Yeah my worry is people are now too used to how rexes are super easy for everyone to grow, and any move away from that will be met with complaints.
barren zephyr
I dont care how much the community will cry about they can't get rex so easily
they should fuck off and think about the balance of the Isle ecosystem
valid zephyr
Back in prog region 2 we had an actual ecosystem, with rare apexes and no need for AI.
Herbis were common.
The actual stats of the dinos isn't an issue currently.
Para is pretty equal to allo.
But it will always be one para vs 5-15 allos.
The carni/herbi player numbers right now are the worst they've ever been.
barren zephyr
Agreed but even getting rid of Ai will let you die of starvation anyways.
Even Velo ai is vulnerable food, may not be much but atleast it's something.
but do you have fun hunting ai?
cause iirc ai takes up slots actually
i mean an ai requires the same thing as a player would do
performance wise
valid zephyr
I'd much rather have 140 players than 100 players and 40 AI
barren zephyr
That's why i suggested different ai like shants, trikes, paras, etc.
And yes i do have fun hunting ai mostly ava, i once heard a ava 4 call and i ran to it to have a nice jump scare by a giga @barren zephyr
valid zephyr
AI quite simply makes growing apexes far too easy. Especially avas.
it's an utter joke to grow a rex right now
barren zephyr
Well it helps out new players too tbh, they are new to the game and they don't know what how to really hunt so Ai helps that and bigger Ai will make those Cocky players go after them.
Plus in prog, i died all the damn time, i never had the chance to do anything and Ai gave me that opportunity to hunt and grow and enjoy the game.
valid zephyr
AI could spawn around juvies still or somthing as they can't hunt
but you can't deny there is a massive population imbalance between carnis and herbis
and apexes which are supposed to be a challenge are not
rexes should not be for new players to grow
barren zephyr
well it isn't my fault that are more carnivore players than herbivore players.
steady cosmos
You gotta get used to hunting players and taking risk somehow
AI wont help that
maybe in the future
barren zephyr
it will help them having a opportunity to grow to kill bigger things.
We cant have a Juvie trying to kill an adult just for food.
steady cosmos
Why give someone who doesnt know how to play a bigger gun to shoot stuff with
barren zephyr
along with trike.
barren zephyr
well those new people don't know how to fight just yet and they are probably scared to loose their dinosaur.
steady cosmos
there are small carnivores that require less time to grow
valid zephyr
Back in 2017 there were lots of herbi players.
barren zephyr
And today those herbi players are killing things for no reason
valid zephyr
and carnis arn't?
steady cosmos
carnis have more reason to kill for "no reason"
barren zephyr
They need to hunt in order to live.
valid zephyr
aka 3 gigas ignoring dibble bodies they killed to kill para hatchlings
steady cosmos
Did the para hatchlings decide to walk out in the open?
barren zephyr
Most dinosaurs like to feed on kills they killed.
oof
herbis arent allowed to do anything huh,,,,
valid zephyr
no the paras were hidden in the bushes
the gigas killed the dibbles and para mother, then ingnored the bodies to kill the hatchlings
but that's ok apparently
steady cosmos
I doubt they werent doing something to get seen
IE talking in game
or moving around too much
valid zephyr
one maia kills a dilo and it's 'toxic herbis nerf them'
steady cosmos
Maia does need a nerf
barren zephyr
Maias are insanely terrifying
But like i said, herbi and carni players are the same
valid zephyr
if a dilo walks near a maia nest then it should expect to be killed
barren zephyr
Agreed
valid zephyr
herbis are nest in an awful state right now, and not due to their stats.
a maia fights a carno pretty evenly, but it will always be tons of carnos vs one maia
steady cosmos
Yep
barren zephyr
is there any update on how the recode is doing?
valid zephyr
which then makes the herbi players more frustrated so they go to carni instead where they can get groups to play with
steady cosmos
Not that i know
barren zephyr
no shiba
valid zephyr
@barren zephyr no
languid ember
I see 1 carno for every 2nd or 3rd maia i see, there’s not a lot of carnos around
barren zephyr
Ϛf
valid zephyr
carnos are actually not as common as they used to be. rexes, gigas, allos, and dilos are the meta
barren zephyr
gigas for me are hard to spot
yea
But tbh everyone is around the same areas
the amount of gigas i meet is insane
valid zephyr
maias and dibbles are the most common herbis
languid ember
It’s not that carno is unviable, it’s objectively the most viable dinosaur together with galli, but Carno is just boring
valid zephyr
I see more ceras and suchos than maias or dibbles though
languid ember
X
barren zephyr
I see many utahs than anything
valid zephyr
8 ceras killed my para, then next day 10 succs killed it
valid zephyr
I saw no other paras
valid zephyr
bleed res buff
steady cosmos
Along with septic bite
valid zephyr
massive one
barren zephyr
I use to be cera but than i decided to be rex because i'm better with it.
languid ember
It doesn’t need a weight buff, just bleed res
steady cosmos
either weight buff
or nerf allos ambush
Cerato literally gets fucking dunked on by allo
even with bleed res, if it gets it
languid ember
If you give it weight and bleed res it starts getting the advantage vs an allo in a 1v1
Which it isn’t supposed to have
So no to weight, just bleed res
valid zephyr
Just thrown out another AI suggestion
something has to stick
no one can deny there is a serious population imbalance, but no ones solutions seem popular
if the rexes have to hang in popular spots to grow then they will struggle to reach adult
and mid tiers will do well
rigid tartan
i never have trouble playing cera. and i kill (1on1) everything i fight. apart from the odd apex., deffo not adult giga's but sub rex's and sub gigas easy. adult rex's if theyr dumb#
alt turn on adult giga is way too good xD cant even risk a bite as cera
@night mountain you cant just "make a.i unlikely to spawn" because you cant account for players actually being online for people to feed on... if no ones on u just gonna starve?
as i keep saying they need to make apex's an EARNT playable dino.. meaning less people taking risks fighting trikes/ other apex's less people getting a chance to play them
meaning more medium dino's
exactly lol
yeah its stilly lol
silly*
barren zephyr
ai should be random
rigid tartan
@barren zephyr if a.i is random they need to severely increase the amount that spawns.
the maps huge.
rigid tartan
only when full grown.. during that time theres many opportunity to starve
specially the last 5%
barren zephyr
ai shouldn't be given for free smh
rigid tartan
now making a.i spawn randomly and it is coded to migrate from lake to lake on set paths. that would be interesting.. could get player mixed in with a.i herbi herds going lake to lake or w.e would be great
a.i shouldn't be free but it needs to be lol
barren zephyr
ai for different biomes and shit could be great too
rigid tartan
until they add ones that fight back
barren zephyr
the isle is supposed to be a "hardcore" game anyway
just spoonfeeding afkers is lame as fuck
rigid tartan
it is.. the game in no way explains how to play your first ever first few dino's are dead to starvation or thirst
until u learn map and mechanics
barren zephyr
the game explains how to play
rigid tartan
barely lol i've met loads of people that didnt even know they had night vision on N
barren zephyr
their fault for skipping the ingame tutorial
rigid tartan
@valid zephyr btw if u make a.i spawn around lakes you will just have an even bigger problem than it is now of carnivores lake camping
herbi's will never be able to drink lol
grand brook
there is such thing as rivers though
valid zephyr
lakes were just an example. it could be near interesting rock formations
just some points of interest rather than some random spot in the middle of the woods no one would ever find
grand brook
but yeah in some spots scattered throughout the map to allow carnivores to be in more than one place
barren zephyr
there should be different ai's for every biome and nocturnal ones
rigid tartan
i think make a.i randomly spawn, but code them to seek out lakes/points of interest whatevers closest to them when they spawn, they roam the point of interest until enough of them arrive/survive the trail getting to said location then they will form their own mini npc herd and migrate the different Point of interest around map at a time, giving player herbi's an option to go with them or just ignore them as the carnivore buffet they would be.
barren zephyr
ai is gonna be a big part of the game anyway instead of being free food for carnivores
jovial moss
There should also be a considerable amount of bushes everywhere on the map IMO so that there aren't just 3 herbivore nesting spots that can be spawn camped
grand brook
with herbivore diets it's likely that plants will spawn in certain habitats and that they will have to constantly migrate
rigid tartan
@jovial moss pretty sure food bushes will be biome based aswell dude. hardly gonna find bushes in the desert etc
jovial moss
well yeah lol I'm just saying
valid zephyr
the varied diets will help I think. herbis will go to the spots with their preferred food. carnis will follow their preferred herbis to those spots too (and to areas with their preferred AI.)
jovial moss
LOL
rigid tartan
lol
jovial moss
an ava following a trike around honestly sounds cute
rigid tartan
give trikes bioluminescent signs that say "im right here guys"
valid zephyr
i'd like to see trikes, dibbles, and avas grouping
rigid tartan
should be the other way round players, should wanna follow some of the npc's
yeah thats what i meant about in my comment up there ^
going to Points of interest
ill put it in suggestions fkit
valid zephyr
the actual AI moving around sounds tough
don't know how they will pull that off
as they will get stuck on trees/cliffs/rocks
rigid tartan
yeah they just need to set a path for them to follow
from one place to the next
yeah npc pathing is pretty simple as far as games go
its when u give them free roam it becomes derpy
it would be good because during the day the chance of the npc herbi's getting to the lakes would be lower due to more carnivores but at night they would al survive. so we would wake up to large a.i herds migrating each day lol
grand brook
and even then some games do pull it off quite well
rigid tartan
yeah^
valid zephyr
maybe there would be obvious AI trails which didn't have trees or rocks
would make pathing easier and players could follow them
rigid tartan
yeah thats what i mean
like the gap in the tree's between the two twins lakes.. obvious paths like that
valid zephyr
they would look like trampled dirt rather than grass
rigid tartan
also it would really help herbies out.. need a bush in a rainstorm? follow the a.i
they are your salvation lol
valid zephyr
could have certain AI species in different areas as well
rigid tartan
yea
valid zephyr
I do suspect that a lot of these issues will be fixed in the next several patches
rigid tartan
probably. i still want migrating roaming a.i tho
be baller.
no REAL downside to it either
grand brook
i guess tacos would probably appear near conifer forests, oros in the plains and avas in the jungle
valid zephyr
migrating AI would be a great thing to have
grand brook
specially if it's from non playable species
valid zephyr
could have it to carnos get more food/affinity from oros, so they chill on the open plains
rigid tartan
well. faster dino's gonna chill in the open plains like carno's and utahs
valid zephyr
same for other dino species
rigid tartan
but bigger carni's need the camouflage
valid zephyr
maias and gallis could have plants they prefer on the plains
so you end up with oros, gallis, maias, utahs, and carnos all living there
grand brook
utahs would probably be at home on all places tbh, they are not as specialized to the plains as carnos are
rigid tartan
how much food do utah's get out of a fully grown galli?
cos as far as i know theyr barely worth killing
rigid tartan
mmm
valid zephyr
not sure about gallis as never seen one as utah or carno
rigid tartan
i think any adult dino's should be a few bites atleast
rigid tartan
yeah
grand brook
dryos have less food than avas, though i guess it makes some sense
rigid tartan
when i ate you on my rex as galli it didnt give me anything really.
were u full galli?
wintry cipher
@formal vine that's the idea. They're supposed to be stupidly rare and essentially act as a reset button for the server. You literally can't take a hyper down. The only thing you can do is hide. The reason there's so many visible rn is because the devs are handing them out randomly for shits and giggles.
formal vine
I mean, you see what a Hypo CARNO can do
wintry cipher
All hypoa also have the same stats right now
formal vine
Imagine what devastation a hypo rex or giga can do?
wintry cipher
They do the same
formal vine
And they're definetly gonna make hypo carno use his horns
Because come on look at that shit
wintry cipher
Yeah. That's why hyper are a rare reset button and unplayable ATM as they aren't done xD I'd just take that video as a tip off of how scary they will be if you ever have the bad luck to cross one
formal vine
Hypos are meant to be like
Final stage
Where you have no other danger that threatens you except another hypo
wintry cipher
Yeah. They're an end game thing caused by human interference.
We don't even have humans yet, and they will be very rare. So I wouldn't worry too much. The devs know how dangerous they are
formal vine
They've gotta make em really hard to get
wintry cipher
They are
I'm telling you they already will xD
They're just spawning them in randomly rn so they're not nearly as rare. Like one being spotted every 3 months rare is my expectation
formal vine
Theres like gotta be something intresting to make them hard to get but make it fun at the same time
instead of bush sitting and eating Avas every 2 minutes
wintry cipher
You won't grow them for starters
barren zephyr
Tbh this topic is cool to talk about, but until we get them in the game its like talking about fantasy
barren zephyr
Exactly
wintry cipher
Your an experiment. There's your fun. The thing is I'm pretty sure hyper will be an accidental creation and a bad one
barren zephyr
I would wait until we get every normal dino in game first
wintry cipher
Since if it is intended, people will spam it to grief the server
formal vine
I agree with toil
valid zephyr
honestly I think hypos are a stupid idea
valid flower
Hypos are useless
valid zephyr
I don't care how rare they are, why do the other players which have worked hard deserve to be 'reset'
barren zephyr
Welp the devs dont think that so opinions are opinions
valid zephyr
all hypos are is basically the ability to act like a 5 year old on the beach kicking peoples sandcastles
formal vine
A hypo has been the menu screen of the game at early stages
People used to think the rex on the menu screen was like a mutated rex
before dondi sorta revealed Hypos
gentle blade
Regardless if you think it's stupid or not, it's an intended mechanic and part of the lore. I doubt any suggesting "make it not happen" will ever cause the devs to say "sure let's not add the hulking beast that has a model and animations and sounds already"
barren zephyr
Comrade chances you get to play as them are very slim so everything will be fine mate
hyper carno uses same stats as the other hypos
formal vine
Yeah
barren zephyr
its just faster
valid zephyr
well i'm a herbi player, so no i'll not get to play them
all hypos seem to have the same stats or somthing atm
barren zephyr
yea ofc they are Op. the hypos purpose to wipe servers
Shout out to the herb player we dont have a lot of those
and kill everything on sight
valid zephyr
but why is wiping a server a good game mechanic?
barren zephyr
They will figure it out
formal vine
You're gonna die none the less
barren zephyr
The Isle, a World Designed to KIll you
gentle blade
Besides I'm sure after hypers are a thing then you'll find servers either with them off, if that is something they allow configurable, or where they have a rule where you're not allowed to achieve them or some other thing like it. Cuz realism or w/e
wintry cipher
Imagine dying at aoawn due to infinite bullets or arrows
barren zephyr
formal vine
lmao
valid zephyr
it's basically you see somone on the map has a hypo and you all log. great 10/10 mechanic
wintry cipher
Inb4 the devs make you unable to log for the 45 minutes a hypo exists
formal vine
Take into consideration, that 'a world designed to kill you' is but a term to describe the game, if it actually was a serious term, people will STOP playing the isle after constantly loosing their 7 hour apex
gentle blade
Wasn't hyper Rex in the game a long time ago and people didn't log then 
formal vine
Players will leave the game because of frustration
barren zephyr
I heard hypos cost hella money to create also
formal vine
You actually had to try to get that hypo rex
valid zephyr
people used to constantly lose their 7 hour apexes on thenyaw. apexes shouldn't be easy to grow
wintry cipher
I'm fairly certain apexes will get very rare and small tiers become the meta once humans are in just to avoid the bullets.
barren zephyr
The issue is
Hypos are meant to be super rare world ending abominations taht bring fear on players hearts.
valid zephyr
small tiers can hide
barren zephyr
Just imagine how long you gotta play to become a hypo. The devs will have it under control.
atm they are only nuisances
because of youtubers
using them all the time
wintry cipher
Small = less chance of getting spotted by the mercs to begin with
barren zephyr
from "OH S#@#@ A HYPO" to "oh look.. another hypo"
valid flower
Youtubers shouldn’t be able to play as hypos and wreck a god damn server just for fun
barren zephyr
Youtubers are at fault for Ruining Hypos for most
wintry cipher
Are horror games fun for the victim? Or are they(you) just a masochist?
valid zephyr
oh look a trike herd that has a combined 30 hours grow time.
oh look they're all dead with no chance of fleeing, fighting, or logging in time
great game mechanic
barren zephyr
And thats why they will throw the dinos in sandbox or give an option to turn the way you can get a hypo off
opal moth
Im pretty sure the hypos will be part of the dna thing not to grow but to evolve from your dino
formal vine
Yeah thats another thing
The NV is the only horror thing but it gets annoying at most
grand brook
hi guys this is my edgy oc hyper carno, it's name is bloodhorn and pls do not steal
formal vine
lmao zor
valid zephyr
I think the horror part is meant to be playing as humans and having cannibels clicking in the darkness
opal moth
The ilse is if your a dryo and on thenya and you hear dilos
wintry cipher
The clickers (cannibals) are blatant horror material
grand brook
teleports behind you
barren zephyr
I felt like I was being stalked by gigas as a Sucho when playing with Azure
formal vine
The tribal and cannibal are the same thing
barren zephyr
I felt like on an abandoned ghost swamp
where alot of suchos meet their fate
i mean ive had genuine scary moments in the isle
opal moth
On thenya if you are a dryo at night the scarriest thing to hear is a dryo call and your not near your burrow
barren zephyr
@night mountain Minecraft Cave Sounds 
formal vine
^
opal moth
Not dryo call dilo call
barren zephyr
These cave sounds usually made me quit MC for a month
Minecraft is scarier indeed
Weird. a blocky game is scarier than a "horror" realistic game
valid zephyr
mc is terrifying
barren zephyr
i always felt uncomfortable mining alone
gentle blade
Think y'all are getting off topic, might be best to go back to isle discussion?
barren zephyr
Lol
formal vine
There needs to be something to give you a feeling of UNEASE in the isle even if you're in a pack/herd
gentle blade
Suggestion was hypers
barren zephyr
so lets come BACK into IT
formal vine
yeah
formal vine
A single hypo rex can destroy an ecosystem
valid zephyr
I understand how strains are meant to be a long term goal/aspiration for carni players, and I think having a long term thing is essential for them.
I just wish herbis had a long term goal too.
barren zephyr
Its suggestion about hypos. But to end that discussion, its gonna be very rare and its not in the game yea ok
wintry cipher
Good. I want the rexes gone
valid zephyr
yeah rexes and gigas are meant to be rare. instead they're most of the server
barren zephyr
gigas*
wintry cipher
Then we get 7 hours of variety
valid zephyr
rex behind every single tree
barren zephyr
dont forget every giga
grand brook
gigas too
barren zephyr
@valid zephyr atleast rexes that hide on trees know what they are doing
thats the only way they can hunt something efficiently
You cant really stop people from wasting 7 hours to grow if they want to be a rex
grand brook
i mean you technically can
formal vine
They're too EASY to grow
barren zephyr
apexes are cringe. cant wait for when mercs get added and the apex populations go down
valid zephyr
er somone didn't play the days with smaller maps
grand brook
the point is difficult long growth that culls their numbers effectively
valid zephyr
thenyaw made rex growing hell, and it was great
barren zephyr
I doubt it will be easy.
Well go on a different server instead of complaining and being negative mate
formal vine
Yeah thenyaw was SCARY AF
barren zephyr
thenyaw is still scary
grand brook
Thenyaw rex growing hell?
formal vine
The night in thenyaw is just hell
valid zephyr
you seriously don't see a problem with 80% of the server being rex?
barren zephyr
its the only good map smh v3 is full of shit
grand brook
but ai spawns right beside you in Thenyaw
barren zephyr
Thenyaw > Isle V3 in terms of gameplay
valid zephyr
apexes should be hard af to grow, and take a lot of skill. They should not be somthing a noob can grab first time, and sit in a bush while avas walk into their mouths
barren zephyr
Ok some of you are herb fans, and you want rex and giga growth hours to take like 10 hours right lol?
just kill the ai and move away smh
valid zephyr
no 7 hours is good
barren zephyr
Then please stop being negative
valid zephyr
the problem is AI literally spawning on you when you get a bit peckish
grand brook
no mate you don't seem to get the thing, it's not the time it takes it's the difficulty of it
barren zephyr
then dont follow it
formal vine
^
barren zephyr
@night mountain
Dude
Ok im out lol
me as a herbi main
grew a rex to adult
with no problem
in EU 3
a dead fucking server
with just AI
formal vine
Yeah
grand brook
7 hours in a bush? no problem, people can do it just waiting for avas to enter their greasy throats without moving a muscle
valid zephyr
yep i'm an awful player and a herbi main, but I can grow a rex to full adult like it's a joke.
formal vine
and still didn't find nobody
valid zephyr
people are now used to it being super easy, barely an inconvenience.
valid zephyr
we're still talking about how to balance carnis/herbis and apexes.
which is related to the suggestions
formal vine
The suggestion was about hyperendocrins
valid zephyr
yep avas should punt juvie carnis into the sea
dim ginkgo
If they do that there should be more small prey
Big dinos should mainly spawn avas and small / juvies small ai
valid zephyr
the idea is to make it harder to grow large dinos, not easier
dim ginkgo
I agree it should be difficult, but how easy isn’t it for an Ava to kill a juvie
rigid tartan
log out timer is fine. if u let someone sit there for 60seconds to log you deserve to miss the kill imo
@gentle blade *
for the record its easy to tell if someone is trying to combat log on you. move around them, if their head doesn't turn to look at you they are trying to log
valid zephyr
if it will take you longer than 60 seconds of biting somthing to kill it why are you hunting it
rigid tartan
^
dry cradle
@formal vine irc hyper carno still had the same stats as hyper giga
languid ember
P sure every hyper has the same stats besides speed and ambush
valid zephyr
I like all the small rocks and logs
gives small creatures an advantage while running through terrain
pale prairie
yes, what we need is more unique biomes.
valid zephyr
not even more, just more to make the current ones really different
pale prairie
some more open plains, redwood forest, savannah, swamps with different/unique trees such as mangrove rather than just having the same trees everywhere else has.
valid zephyr
the main thing imo is having certain AI and edible plants in each
in order to make different dinos live different places
pale prairie
like V4?
valid zephyr
never played v4
pale prairie
that'd be nice.
it had something similar to what you're saying.
or rather, it was going to
valid zephyr
aka oros spawn on the plains, along with plants for maias and gallis.
utahs and carnos would prefer oros, maias, and gallis
so all those creatures would live on the plains
that's how i avoid being chased with small dinos half the time, run into a minefield of rocks
maias need slowing to 40-42kph
which is a different issue
at that speed they can no longer catch utah, but still can flee allo and cera
barren zephyr
heheh i got chased by 7 maias as a utah and still managed to live with screen 4
grave karma
when we get trample, i want to flatten utahs as maia
tisso carno but when it runs into utahs it just slices them in half
rigid tartan
@barren zephyr they dont need to reduce the numbers of them they need to just change how they interact with dino's like the rocks should be set by mass. if you are below a certain weight, you collide and they can stop you. if you're above a certain weight you just clip through them. tired of getting caught on a tiny rock as adult rex. then flying off a rock thats shaped like a ramp lol
should change with recode tho, so wait and see 😃
barren zephyr
sounds like an apex pred main
rigid tartan
i play all the dino's they can all be fun. rocks dont take prisoners.
try something constructive next time x]
rigid tartan
do the rocks irritate u too? 😛
barren zephyr
they dont
lament thorn
hope not
kinda takes away from the point of the the whole 'hardcore survival' game thing
teal grotto
@rigid tartan they disabled family share because people avoided bans.. Its not a problem if you have character slots as your name and id is the same.
Also after you grow a dibo that takes 6.5 hours.. I can understand the whole thing of not wanting to let said 6.5 hours go to waste
rigid tartan
i mean i see "oh wanna kill my herbi do u? let me log my adult rex cos i know where u are" a problem tho
as a problem*
teal grotto
Dinosaur*
rigid tartan
whats to stop people making a ptera. and having an apex as their alt.
fly around. find people. done
teal grotto
Ptera has limited sight in the air lol
Also id rather have character slots over having to make another steamaccount and buying the game again another 10 times
teal grotto
Lol slayer your hopeless to get the point across
Alright let me say this
Grows an apex right right.. You want to play with a friend buuuuut
rigid tartan
im not hopeless. just have a different opinion 😛
teal grotto
You gotta kill your 7 hour grind
rigid tartan
agree'd its awkward but why commit to an 8hour grind if you're so fickle that you will flop to your friends will xD
get them to start an apex.
grave karma
limit it to 1 apex lol
teal grotto
Not everyone is hardcore loving as you are
It gets very very boring as a single character
Its a good break away from the hey I don't wanna play but I also dont wanna kill my progress
Friends wanna play a Raptor.. I can just hop on another character
rigid tartan
its essentially a save button and i dont agree with those in multiplayer games ;P
teal grotto
Can't do that with current
valid zephyr
on one hand i like the idea of multiple characters, on the other people will just use them to feed their main
rigid tartan
people will just abuse it* case closed
in all ways they can and will.
its why we cant have nice things.
teal grotto
@valid zephyr they do it with there be steam accounts already.
Character slots make that very hard to do lol
finite perch
apexes are apex for a reason, each player should only get one apex slot. if you only play apexes, thats not the games fault lol
valid zephyr
great more AI... just what the game needs /s
teal grotto
It does
pale prairie
yeah, i mean, 4-6 AI spawning every 10 minutes for a hungry carnivore just isn't enough
rigid tartan
nah i think if you're playing apex and u wanna swap tough luck. this is the literal problem with the community apex's are just a thing u can grow and kill whenever your friends wanna play something different. thats why theres so many. you're an epidemic death lol
valid zephyr
every server is a seething mass of apex carnis. it takes the IQ of a chimp to grow one right now
pale prairie
we clearly need 10 or more AI spawning right in front of us every 10 minutes.
rigid tartan
make apex's harder to obtain, and keep the 1slot. then people wont be so anxious to grow them all the time. if their friends want something else. all the better
teal grotto
If there are character slots "which there will be" you will see the whole carni vs herbi thing be more balanced out.
pale prairie
how so?
rigid tartan
no u will see EVERY person with 1 apex and 1 alt
it will be so much worse
at least this limits it somewhat
pale prairie
are you saying if people can keep animals alive rather than having to kill them off if they want to switch, they will want to play another class?
valid zephyr
oooor people can just grab rex mkII to revenge kill their killer, and use the other herbi slots to ez grow their apex
teal grotto
Yep
pale prairie
so if somebody loves playing utah, having the ability to play something else without killing off their utah, they will play herbivores instead?
teal grotto
If you already aced the class you want to keep the progress and not delete it
pale prairie
rigid tartan
yes but 99% of the time people will choose 1apex + their fav dino lol
teal grotto
So people will move on to the next
rigid tartan
instead of being stuck with just their fav
valid zephyr
the apexes already are crazy. this will just take it from 70 apexes per server to 90
rigid tartan
^
finite perch
^
teal grotto
Not reallly
rigid tartan
lol
teal grotto
Really*
valid zephyr
I want their to be multiple slots. I just don't see how it can be done without exploiters
pale prairie
ok, i'll put it to you this way, dragon, let's say i love rex, i think it's the best animal in the game, right.
i have 2 slots for apexes, both of those are going to be rexes.
nothing will change that.
there are plenty of people who play nothing but rex
nothing will change that
pale prairie
people play what they want to play
rigid tartan
as it stands u get like what 60% apex players 40% everything else? .. give them an option to grow one and that other 40% will also grow an apex.. making it 100% apex's whenever peeps choose to play them
plus their alts
pale prairie
no, that example was for the "the whole carni vs herbi thing be more balanced out." thing
rigid tartan
oh ok
finite perch
if i could pocket my rex and still play, waiting for a better climate to grow (late at night) or for less apexes online as competition/threat, i could grow so easily its laughable
rigid tartan
i know fraidy lol specially if u can use your faster alt dino to scope out a growing area
fuck
"shit someones coming, swap to my alt... hang around faster than them till they leave.. relog"
jeeeeez
pale prairie
also, when was it stated that we would have more AI? the way AI works will be changing and therefore more AI will need to be on the server at a time, sure.
but for the current system, i don't believe anyone said the "AI limit" would be increasing.
valid zephyr
If I was an exploiter, i'd grow rex 1 and 2 as main and revenge kill rex. rest would be maias due to fast growth and large size to feed the rexes
teal grotto
Nothing can be done with exploiters example gamma tards. No matter how much we can deal with them you can't just get rid of them.. All you can do is watch them and make sure you ban them.. No matter what you do people will find ways around things.. But if you also limit things you also scare away more people from the game and you lose players because they get "bored" but at thecsanetime people do not want to kill something that put so much sink hole time into.. So the moment they feel accomplished they log out and change there character to ace something else. Look at today rpg games fir that example..
rigid tartan
the gamma is an easy fix. the devs are just busy frying bigger fish
rigid tartan
^
teal grotto
@grave karma they can't with character slots dont you understand
pale prairie
that is impossible if admins need to stay active, banning people for abusing this system.
teal grotto
Character slots wont change your id or name
pale prairie
ok, but what people can do is feed themselves, @teal grotto
rigid tartan
i dont see how the simple mechanic of "choose your dino' ok u play that till u die or make a new one" is going to scare anyone off.
grave karma
it wont lmao
teal grotto
Yeah good luck with that lol
grave karma
i think being able to revenge kill almost instantly would though
grave karma
character slots is bs overall
pale prairie
grow a rex in one slot, grow a bunch of maias in the other slots.
go up to an area with a decently high cliff, leave your rex there, bring the maias there and run off the cliff, log back in and boom, you have food.
rigid tartan
just get your friend to kill you lol relog free food.
pale prairie
there's a lot of issues with this system, which is why when slots are added, they won't be on official servers.
they'll be an option for unofficial
rigid tartan
official doesn't need them. needs to stay "hardcore" im using that lightly as i know its a buzzword that triggers death
cant say it enough here in suggestion discussion
Wait, for , the ,recode. first
valid zephyr
people will always exploit yeah, but currently they need to buy more accounts which most don't do.
Making exploiting super easy for everyone isn't the answer
pale prairie
gotto start saying that to all the people talking about balance, it's not like weight won't affect combat after the recode so everything needs new stats or we're getting a new combat system or anything like that
valid zephyr
all that will happen is the entire server will be rexes and the dinos grown to feed them specially
yeah no balance suggestions atm. it's pointless when all balance goes to hell soon
valid zephyr
i know some, but most don't
teal grotto
They have like 40 isle accounts
valid zephyr
teal grotto
I rest my case
pale prairie
ok ok ok, but won't having slots on official servers make it even worse?
i don't see how allowing you to basically do the same thing for free will stop anyone from doing it
valid zephyr
currently pretty sure they get banned for using alts
teal grotto
Least people will learn that hey maybe I should not revenge kill cause im just going to get permabanned again..
valid zephyr
hope they at least make rexes super challenging to grow again
teal grotto
Character slots again stops this.. How? All progress is on 1 account not mulyiple
Multiple*
valid zephyr
the entire server balance is a joke atm, and people think it isn't enough apexes
pale prairie
people will still buy other accounts
and as i've already said, the goal is to not need any rules on official.
teal grotto
Why hurt the community when your basicly saying to your players hey its not intentional but we dont have slots so we count as a triple A company now buy more games.. Which negatively effects the devs
And the product
You gotta lookat other things too not just ingame things
pale prairie
i don't understand how any of that would negatively affect the devs, it's been this way for 3 years now yet you don't see many people complaining
teal grotto
People hold attachments to there characters
pale prairie
besides, save slots are already going to be an option for unofficial servers.
just not for official
the goal is to have no rules and not need admins, which with save slots is impossible.
teal grotto
Dev's have alot on there plate and I understand why they "might just use character slots" as a problem fixer..
pale prairie
but they're not going to on official servers.
teal grotto
You dont know that nor do i
grave karma
it'd create even more issues than there already are/probably will be
pale prairie
no no, i do know that.
a dev has already said that.
in this discord.
"an option for unofficial servers"
rigid tartan
yes but as you can see you're outnumbered by the "fan base"
i doubt they will come to official
pale prairie
ok? what does that have to do with what we're discussing?
teal grotto
I never said official lol
pale prairie
teal grotto
I just said in general character slots will fix issues lol
pale prairie
and we said yes, but they're abusable, and will never come to official servers because the goal is to have no rules and not need admins.
teal grotto
Take into account that the "unofficial" servers out number the players on official..
rigid tartan
because unofficial offers more content for the time being because devs are busy
teal grotto
Nyctia is a good example
rigid tartan
and that reason alone.
rigid tartan
ok but.
rigid tartan
im just saying as soon as the devs update something, ANYTHING watch the population numbers on their servers and the official servers.
teal grotto
That's 1 server out of 4 lol
rigid tartan
i guarentee. they empty
pale prairie
"oh shit, this trike just hit me from a mile away! f*cking broken game! it has nothing todo with the fact this server is 100 players over the max or anything, the games broken!"
rigid tartan
x]
pale prairie
really? funny, i see that all the time in this discord.
teal grotto
All I see are people jumping off a cliff
rigid tartan
unofficial is just there for people to enjoy the "short cuts" and less rule enhanced version of the game. in a way not intended by the devs. now its not wrong. but its not how they intended it to be played. again tho soon as devs release something people will abandon unofficial in their droves
pale prairie
people coming from unofficial servers complaining about the game being completely broken when it's really server lag, or people complaining about balance without alt turn
nah, they won't, slayer.
teal grotto
Just recently seen a trike get angry he got killed by a Rex because he tried to run away from him then yeeted off a 3 foot drop.. Then gets angry he got killed by said Rex then complained about it on here.. As a hack..
pale prairie
maybe some, but not in droves.
teal grotto
Litterly like a week ago I seen this when im chilling with my 4 month old giga
pale prairie
ok? and eh, so you're agreeing with me there?
rigid tartan
weird flex but ok
grand brook
more apexes?
teal grotto
I keep my characters alive I dont throw them away
rigid tartan
always zorrez
grand brook
Exterminatus then
rigid tartan
as you command inquisitor.
pale prairie
so, because there are traditional hitboxes, some weird shit happens
teal grotto
Im not "flexing" I keep track with how old my apex is.. And its so very boring lol but maybe its because I fallow the food chain and don't hunt other apexes
rigid tartan
im just messing with you, just you coulda said "my giga" instead of "my 4 month giga"
made it a flex.
we're off topic.
pale prairie
this is starting to get offtopic
rigid tartan
get out of my head
pale prairie
pale prairie
ahh right, because herbivore apexes aren't apexes
teal grotto
I do hunt trikes when alone
rigid tartan
u ready for it duck?
pale prairie
really?
how?
by making them fun to play?
rather than just being worse versions of the adults?
teal grotto
Herbivores are nutritional
rigid tartan
ok so. an area of the map surrounded by a tall wall with little cracks/tunnels in them. only big enough for early sub/late juvi's. this area with be where juvi's spawn it will be JUVI NATION. juvi's cant hide under tree's cos theyr being hunted by other juvi's. and you leave through a tunnel or crack before you're too big or RIP.
boom solved dont @ me
valid zephyr
what if you don't leave?
rigid tartan
like i said
valid zephyr
you can just eat juvies
rigid tartan
rip.
rigid tartan
if you dont leave before u hit big boy standards. you are auto teleported i dunno i said dont @ me ok
pale prairie
spawncampers paradise
teal grotto
Lol
rigid tartan
okok ill get back to you when i fix that issue
OH i've got it
adults cant kill juvi's 😉
its like bambi status
teal grotto
Also why there are too many carnivores then herbivores because most of us prefer to be a monster
pale prairie
Rip ceratos and utahs
that was my point earlier, dragon, how would having character slots make more people play herbivore?
rigid tartan
it wouldn't carnivore is too fun
pale prairie
exactly
rigid tartan
herbi's need a "niche" they dont have one theyr just bad carnivores
teal grotto
Herbis in anything need something new
rigid tartan
herbi's can mixpack with humans and become mounts. boom every1 wants to herbi
pale prairie
grazing
rigid tartan
😮
teal grotto
Exactly
teal grotto
Which is coming in thevrecode
rigid tartan
apparently.
pale prairie
so instead of a strain, something like an elder version of each herbivore, easier to obtain than the carnivore strains, not quite as strong but still much stronger than regular herbivores.
teal grotto
Wait till the murder turkey gets in the game lol
mental sleet
huh, no, duck.
pale prairie
yes, let me dream.
teal grotto
actually elder stage is going to be a thing as I heard on the grape vine..
Aka ancient
Not a bad idea
pale prairie
no, it hasn't been confirmed by any dev.
just unofficial art work
rigid tartan
take away carnivore option to group. carnivore is a solo game. herbivore is the multiplayer experience., i've cracked it
rigid tartan
they are now.
teal grotto
Etc
grave karma
elder herbis please
rigid tartan
hey i didnt say it was perfect. but it would fix it
grave karma
but before strains are obtainable
rigid tartan
im not saying raptors and allo's cant hang out near each other but they cant group, and can only talk through local.
teal grotto
Ancient stage able to put up a fight vs a hypo that's a yes in my book
rigid tartan
GROUPING should be changed to "HERDING" and boom herbi's more fun
vestal rune
I don't think that's really the correct way of going about it
plus herbivores are better for groups then carnivores anyway
teal grotto
Well if the grind is like 100 hours lol
rigid tartan
and yet no one does it fire.
rigid tartan
group.
vestal rune
what?
rigid tartan
herbi's are just bad carnivores atm because carnivore does everything they do but better. including when theyr in groups
vestal rune
whenever I play herbivore it's hard for me not to find a group
rigid tartan
not my point my dude
teal grotto
Carnivores group all the time
pale prairie
because a single good giga can wipe a para or diablo herd, not many people herd anymore
pale prairie
i still like this more than back when there were diablo X trike herds that would run juveniles down and make them wish they were never born
teal grotto
That's very very very untrue
teal grotto
points to unofficial servers
pale prairie
game isn't being made for unofficial servers
rigid tartan
if u take away grouping from carnivores. theyr in the dark. they have to rely on mainly themselves. and knowing who their friend is by their colours. this will filter most people who only play carnivore cos its easy. leaving the herbi players organised and content.
pale prairie
why do you think the game is balanced around alt turn?
teal grotto
Sees a herd of 50 Herbis on 1 server
rigid tartan
when xD
pale prairie
unofficial
teal grotto
Of you pay attention you would see them
rigid tartan
.. u kidding?
teal grotto
And on official 1
pale prairie
in unofficial servers, dragon.
pale prairie
yeah no, that only happens if there's a streamer
teal grotto
There is a herbi group I know of who have a discord that they group together in
pale prairie
yeah, i'm in three of those groups dragon
rigid tartan
you're losing credibility here
pale prairie
most of them play carnivore now.
teal grotto
Nah they still herbi
rigid tartan
but on a serious note... i dont think not grouping would hurt carnivore play style THAT much. and it would make herbi's more appealing
pale prairie
all the old herbivore mains really only mained herbivore for the herds, herds can't survive giga or rex attacks without trikes sooo
i'm afraid not, they do still play herbivore, but not exclusively herbivore like they used to.
rigid tartan
imagine not being able to group with the carnivore next to you. it be like dayz "wanna follow them herbies and hunt?" sure.. soon as you turn your back this guy gonna bite you?
rofl
pale prairie
but then you couldn't tell who's who.
rigid tartan
u get local. thats it
and u need to be able to remember your friends patterns. like escape from tarkov.
no names.
pale prairie
well, that would make meeting up with your friends rather difficult
vestal rune
no it wouldn't
rigid tartan
not really if u know the map. but the point is it wouldnt HURT the carnni's
vestal rune
discord would totally ruin that
rigid tartan
you say that fire.... amount of times ive been friendly fired on tarkov.... so much "IS THAT YOU? IS THIS YOU?"
pale prairie
a system that punishes new players that don't know the map perfectly? sounds great!
rigid tartan
it makes it easier but not flawless.
teal grotto
@pale prairie well that too.... but you gotta remember also @rigid tartan whispers into ear discord exists*
vestal rune
it would possibly cause problems if you ever fight another pack of the same species, but aside from that it would be meaningless
rigid tartan
arent fights supposed to be chaotic 😄
vestal rune
just the removal of a QoL thing that wouldn't cause any change, just make the game more annoying
no?
in packs not
rigid tartan
far as im concerned im cool with all herbi's becoming A.I just spit balling, feel bad for all the peeps complaining theyr less fun 😉
vestal rune
there's definetly possibility to make herbi gameplay fun
indigo sun
If herbivores didnt get constantly fucked over by carnivore players that were whining cause they didnt roll over and present their bellies to be killed, then maybe it wouldnt be more reasonable for herbivores to actually become ai.
vestal rune
being the prey can be quite exhilarating, you just need to find things to do the rest of the time
rigid tartan
@valid zephyr @pale prairie I've got it. ok same scenario. walled off area. juvis only. no cracks or tunnels just as soon as u hit grow. you're moved randomly to main island
indigo sun
I love herbivores, but currently theyre bland and most dont stand much of a chance, besides great para players, decent diablo players, and an actual group of five trikes
It's very fun to be prey, I love being able to either lose my predator or give it a good fight. I enjoy it a ton. Currently there's not much good though. Apexes are everywhere, herds have no defense against them because no one thinks to change numbers at all apparently, and I cant remember anything stated for herbivores beyond not getting strains but getting something else, and that something else was never elaborated on
Sorry for the paragraph
vestal rune
hardly a paragraph
indigo sun
It looks like it to me
vestal rune
also how are those the only groups that stand a chance?
indigo sun
Well others do
But mainly though, they have the best chances from what I've seen
Gallis too
indigo sun
Oh those were supposed to be in there but i rewrote it to add trike and forgot to put galli back in
Whoops
vestal rune
and dryos are quite good, even if part of that is because loss means very little
oh lol
and maias too?
rigid tartan
gallis and dryo pointless lol
vestal rune
how are they pointless?
rigid tartan
what role do they serve 😂
rigid tartan
other than juvi killers ofc
vestal rune
one's an easy to play as survival expert, and the other one is a incredibly good runner
indigo sun
Also theyre fun
vestal rune
I've had the most fun in the game as a galli not gonna lie
and what's fun is all that fucking matters
indigo sun
I love playing dryo, especially in a little communal area by a lake
rigid tartan
ok keep telling yourself theyr fun. the community disagrees.
vestal rune
what the fuck are you on
indigo sun
I'm sorry who's disagreeing? I havent seen it
rigid tartan
😂not on anything. just the numbers of them vs everything else
indigo sun
Most people who play them say its pretty damn fun
vestal rune
I've seen plenty of gallis
rigid tartan
🙄 ok
vestal rune
not so much dryos but they're sort of a special thing
indigo sun
Just cause theres not a ton of them doesnt mean people hate them or anything
rigid tartan
😂
I didn't say people hate them
I love dryos
doesn't make them more fun than others
vestal rune
this isn't comparitive
no one's saying that galli is more fun then the others
just that it's fun in general
rigid tartan
no. no one's saying it. but the number of players playing them reflect it. that's all
same with herbi vs carni
ones more fun. guess which
vestal rune
one has more uptime where you do stuff
tbh herbi and carni gameplay are just as fun, it's just that carnis have more activity to do making it more consistently fun
hopefully the devs will be able to fix that in the future
indigo sun
Carnivores have more going for them at the moment and theyre easy to grow cause ai spawns in the mouth and they move more cause theres a higher promise of food
vestal rune
ye
I imagine once AI becomes more proper, herbis will became more popular on the simple basis that there's less work to get the food as herbis
indigo sun
I think theres also a lower chance of carnivores getting instantly killed when they move
barren zephyr
there are more rexes than ceras and rex is fucking asthma bruh boring
finite perch
@night mountain i big agree on this one, i suggested the same a long time ago. sitting for too long when not on a nest should have a penalty, like disabling growth
sick crescent
@night mountain what does that mean
brittle bough
smh galli isnt pointless, its the designated juvi, carno, and utah punter
finite perch
^
if juvis get pressured with velos, pressure the larger carnivores with larger ai
each 'stam bar' of wait increases the changes exponentially. you wont start the % chance until 2 your stam when resting off of a nest, and rig the food value so that its like velo: it gives an inordinately low amount of food
that or have it skip being ribs
you stand up and get 1 bleed, lacerations all over ur legs lol
i mean ur a multi-ton dinosaur, resting for too longs gotta hurt
also: additionally, a check on if the creature is bleeding should be implemented 😬 so we're not spawning acros on people recovering from acros
sick crescent
Fuck afk growth
Although
Sometimes you just have to afk so
If they have a little pause but were still active recently?
north vector
finite perch
well thats what i mean by reaching your third stam bar before spawns
you can sit, rest, kinda relax a little, but overdoing it is worth punishment
barren zephyr
I would rather the ai didnt spawn on players at all. I think it would be better if ai herds spawned randomly and migrated around the map. As far as afk goes, simply giving juvies something fun to do gameplay wise would go along way in encouraging them to not afk. Such as my juvie gameplay suggestion from a couple days ago.
finite perch
i feel like its apples and oranges on the whole juvis having fun / people afk-growing rexes because the risk is just too high
i think making hiding also risky would encourage the players to be more bold
loud vine
paper oriole
make them buck AFKers into orbit
violet magnet
people AFK grow because they're weak slow juvies who can get trotted down and oneshotted by pretty much everything bigger than them and it isn't worth it to travel for risk of being seen, so until that part's fixed AFK growing is gonna be a thing
it's a problem, for sure, but the main issue is why it's a problem