#general-feedback-discussion

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brittle bough
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mmh, i just asked in case devs/streams have said anything on that matter that i didnt know about- god i hope servers can customize ragdoll intensity

night mountain
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PLS

sick crescent
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@blazing charm now 3 moments your suggestion would’ve been useful

lone pagoda
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@ slow motion deaths: welcome to ragdoll physics

blazing charm
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Okay, I appreciate that you like it.

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I really do.

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But could you please tone it down with the tagging?

sick crescent
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Yeah

blazing charm
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Thanks.

indigo sun
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@paper tendon there really isnt a lot of evidence that dinosaurs had a size difference between males and females and I believe it was stated that they wouldn't be doing sexual dimorphism beyond the colors.

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I dont see much of a reason for it anyway

paper tendon
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Interesting because further back some one mentioned it and they said they would most likely implement it. And i think it would be normal to have a size difference lol

indigo sun
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Oh well if you can find that I'd be happy to take a look
But again, i dont see a reason for it when the colors work just fine

paper tendon
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Just take a look in official answers and you will find it

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It would be different thats all.

indigo sun
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All i found was they would try some experimentation with it which does mean it's possible but it seems unnecessary to me. The devs might feel otherwise
Who would be larger or smaller then? And would the size difference come with stat changes too?

barren zephyr
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Damage is linked to weight innit?

paper tendon
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I have no idea mate

indigo sun
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I think that part is changing. I dont think weight is gonna be part of combat forever

paper tendon
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It would be a nice new different addition to the game. If they dont then give us new skin patterns if they want to just you skin customization

indigo sun
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I believe they said patterns might come

paper tendon
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Awesome

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Because current patterns are quite boring mate

indigo sun
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I agree. It'd be neat to have some different pattern options

paper tendon
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Colors on the other hand i truly don’t care for

barren zephyr
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i need moar purple : (

night mountain
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same i want purple rex so bad

bitter trench
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Even a dull purple would be better than no purple

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I want a purple trike

paper oriole
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i wish dilo had a wider array of colours, even ones that arent available to most other dinos because venomous animals tend to have bright 'warning' colours anyway

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and it's be optional so like why not lol

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you can already inject a good number of the dinos at smaller sizes, an many servers allow these requests, including 25% 50% and 0.01% that i've seen personally. unless you meant obtaining these dinos without going through an injection? @azure arch

paper tendon
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Your right the real question is why not? This game is already set to be human made dinosaurs so who cares throw hella colors in the game not hot pink and shit like that tho

paper oriole
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yeah not like neon purple and pink and shit, just more vibrant colours for certain dinos

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i think males should have more vibrant colours overall than females too even if they have the same selection for the most part, or maybe like there is a the pattern variation there could also be options for how vibrant the colours you picked are (dull, average, vibrant)

paper tendon
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I would like that ^^ but truly i would like something different, because current skin customization does get quite dull at times

paper oriole
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i'm assuming they're going to add more patterns in the future, then not every dino will have the same spots and stripes

paper tendon
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Facts

paper oriole
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which is the biggest problem rn

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also some real labels for the colours would be great, like instead of "utah 5, rex 2, dilo 3" it would be like "dilo green, utah grey, allo yellow, carno black"
such a pain in the ass to select colours for colourblind people lol, especially when im trynna make a camo

paper tendon
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😂

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Someone also suggested that there should be more info on the dinosaur you are about to select(on selection screen not just press esc and it shows you speed and shit). I actually liked the idea because it shows you what your abilities are and it just overall makes you excited about the dino you are about to use

paper oriole
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aye, something like the little info sheets here would be cool too

paper tendon
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^^^ yea something like that but that might be to much info for some people

paper oriole
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perhaps, hopefully some good info staating the playstyle of the animal enough for people who dont know them all yet will be added tho

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might help with the people default clicking rex because it's cool and famous if they know it's a low stamina ambush hunter with a huge growth time behind it, instead of the chase a speeding car for 10 minutes rex from JP

paper tendon
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True

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Simple things like that make games the best not saying The Isle is not already considering they dont have any competition right now

paper oriole
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i trust that they'll flesh out our customization options in the future

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and the dino info sheets as you said, no way it'd go live past development state when the stats arent accurate during growth too

paper tendon
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Yea

azure arch
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@paper oriole Please direct me to any semi-realism servers that do that, please!!

night mountain
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Why on earth would dinosaurs have thermal vision

paper tendon
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Wow that would be awesome. I mean these are man made dinos

brittle bough
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ehhh, i think thermal vision is a bit much, hiding is a big part of surviving and thermal just removes any point to bothering to hide

azure arch
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I mean

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Snakes have thermal vision

night mountain
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Maybe for like a strain or something. None of the dinosaurs in game however unrelistic have really weird bizarre powers

azure arch
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Dilos are pretty snakelike

night mountain
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snakes have heat pits

azure arch
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why tf would a chunky-ass strain have thermal vision

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smaller dinos should have it to help them find smaller prey

night mountain
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So since theri is pretty birdlike should it get flight?

paper tendon
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Yea a strain or something but would be very fun mate to murder everyone

azure arch
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It wasn't built for flight

brittle bough
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i could see hyper having thermal and thats about it; nothing can hide from a hyper

azure arch
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Dilo looks like it could be built for thermal vision on top of night vision

wet canyon
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Lol theri doesn’t have wings

azure arch
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what it lacks in brute strength it makes up for skill and bleed.

night mountain
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Theri doesn't have wings, just like dilo doesn't have heat pits. You guys know how thermal vision works right?

azure arch
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Plus it would have a long cooldown

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and a short usage time.

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How do you know they didn't tentacle? Do heat pits have bones?

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Dilo could have had heat pits.

brittle bough
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well lets give a look at the model, unless youre gonna move to #paleotalk lol

azure arch
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Like, dilo will get venom ffs.

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It probably never had venom

brittle bough
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the one in the isle does, so get over it

wet canyon
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Ok but this game doesn’t necessarily go for realism you guys.... these Dino’s are man made.

azure arch
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So why is it such a big deal if it gets thermal vision?

paper tendon
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Once again who cares these are man made dinos lol

night mountain
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lets give dilo tentacles too, those didn't fossilize so maybe it had them

azure arch
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Let me get the duct tape.

night mountain
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even that aside idk why anyone would want to buff dilo of all things

azure arch
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And a frying pan.

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It's not buff

wet canyon
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And thermal would be a huge giveaway for anyone even if they have a good hiding spot it’s would just make hiding pointless

azure arch
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Like, the thermal vision literally lasts for 3 seconds

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It could have a 10 minute cooldown instead of 5

night mountain
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So a new power to help it find hidden things isn't a buff?

brittle bough
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then its not even worth it at all lmao

azure arch
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The thermal vision would have a super small radius.

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I don't know.

brittle bough
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then its not even worth it at all

azure arch
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Well you said it's too overpowered

paper tendon
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Thermal vis would prob be for hypos or some shit high so chances you even get a chance to play with thermal is slim

azure arch
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Or tentacle did.

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None of the hypos look suitable for thermal vision

wet canyon
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Yeah it would be for like Neuro or something

azure arch
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Dilo does

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Neuro does the blinding thing and the weather change, remember?

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And you forget

night mountain
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I'm just saying dilo doesn't need buffs at all, let alone a weird power it definitely didn't have

azure arch
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neuro is like, blind.

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Thermal would be bs

night mountain
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venom is at least not TOTALLY out there

azure arch
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Venom IS being added

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Devs said it themselves.

brittle bough
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yes we know.

wet canyon
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Yeah and dilo has superior NV and bleed but you wanted to give it more power lmao

night mountain
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thermal is literally meant for animals that don't use vision lol

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thats why snakes have it and use it in the dark

azure arch
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Don't you need EYES to use it tho

night mountain
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no

brittle bough
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....

azure arch
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'vision'

brittle bough
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fam what do you think thermal vision is.

paper tendon
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Lol

wet canyon
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-.-

brittle bough
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do you.. do you think snake's eyes work like the thermal cameras?

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because thats not how that works.

paper tendon
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Gotta love snakes

azure arch
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Bah, It's already in suggestions. Just X or check mark

wet canyon
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Snakes are amazing FYI

brittle bough
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answer me lmao

night mountain
paper tendon
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#Dontkillthesnake

night mountain
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heat sensing in snakes has nothing to do with eyes

paper tendon
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Just noticed my dog looks just like that pic

night mountain
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lol

brittle bough
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now, i could see other ways for dilo to be better at tracking. maybe their scent could reach farther and pick up more minor things.
like if a carnivore recently ate, maybe dilo could smell the blood on their face, or scent footprints longer than other dinosaurs can, or something of that sort.

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but thermal, nah. better suited for hypers, because the whole point to hypers is that they kill everything and nothing can hide from them

paper tendon
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Yerrrr

brittle bough
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maybe, like faraway water, they could see blood on the ground/items/etc through the map when they scent, so they could see it from farther away, which would help them find weakened prey- or at least areas where skirmishes happened. would add a bit more threat to fighting/hunting at night 'cause dilos may come for you if you arent careful or aware.

barren zephyr
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Titanboa should get the thermal. If they can make it playable.

paper tendon
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Yea in a million years lol . Its a snake

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Who likes snakes these days. Im cool with it 95% of the community says f snakes

night mountain
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Titanoboa probably didn't have heat pits either, but that'd make it unique and it's not a huge stretch so I'd be down

barren zephyr
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No. But dilo probably didnt have venom either. But for gameplay it works.

blazing charm
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I mean, we have a venomous Dilo so i'd say anything is possible-

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damnit, beat me to it.

brittle bough
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eh, it is "close enough" for thermal, id let that pass lol

paper tendon
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Yea we dont tho lol

night mountain
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venom is at least a thing tons of different animals use so a venomous dinosaur isn't that weird

paper tendon
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I dont see a venemous dilo in gmae right now

brittle bough
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fam

night mountain
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its supposed to be, they're changing its bleed to venom that i think is gonna work similarly

paper tendon
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Chill chill dont get mad

brittle bough
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?? no ones mad, youre just looking a bit silly

barren zephyr
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Dilo is venom is its bleed according to dondi

brittle bough
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bleed = anti-coagulating venom lul

paper tendon
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Usually when someone says fam there coming with a whole paragraph

brittle bough
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i mean i figured the fact i wasnt? typing? was an indicator that i wasnt? but sure

blazing charm
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Hopefully the venom gets reworked to be more distinguishable from bleed.

night mountain
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dilos in game have monitor tier venom where it mostly just makes you bleed a lot

paper tendon
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Lol

night mountain
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yeah id be cool with that

brittle bough
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someone suggested that the bleed indicator be purple, or at least have some purple accompaniment when one is envenomed

night mountain
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Also for the anky stun thing not a fan but only because anky deserves full on bb

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and is getting it eventuallyyyyy iirc

blazing charm
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I think I had something like that for Megalania

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Hrm, that gives me an idea.

night mountain
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i really want meg ;c

blazing charm
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One moment.

brittle bough
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i think bb in general could do with going up in severity
like stun -> fracture -> full break, or something like that

night mountain
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climbing megalania is best megalania though

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go eat rock utahs

blazing charm
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Honestly, I don't really care for Megalania anymore. But i'm not gonna go into that because I don't want to derail.

night mountain
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yeah its weird you heal off bb in a few minutes

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even in game time you heal a smashed leg in like, an afternoon

barren zephyr
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because nobody wants to sit around for 6-8 weeks in game time to heal a broken leg, wtf...

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Its taking me a year to heal my slightly stretched leg irl lmao

brittle bough
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..i think the point was more to go from broken to fractured to healed

barren zephyr
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Bb should be deadly to such large dinos. But we're getting off topic now.

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Thats true outlaw

brittle bough
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i mean not necessarilyyy, there was a suggestion abt bb

night mountain
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how is that offtopic this is like, the exact place to talk about that

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no ones saying for it to take 6-8 weeks in game, you should just like

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probably starve if you break a leg

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thats what happens to large animals that break legs generally

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obv don't implement that until bb is fixed though

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and the glass ankles of a lot of dinosaurs

barren zephyr
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Yah, perhaps a sort of stumble or slide effect, resulting in a break in the ribs

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something perhaps survivable for a rex

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Yeah BB is so weird right now, you can plummet off a cliff and be fine, but step on a pebble and bones crumble.

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if... making said trex more vulnerable to damage from the side

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someone could try put that in suggestions...

brittle bough
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locational damage will be a thing, so ehh? may be already coming

night mountain
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i think broken ribs and stuff are coming if i remember right

barren zephyr
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Man I love these devs

brittle bough
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locational damage is gonna be so nice.... ive lost too many dinosaurs to rexes from them shattering all of my femurs with the last pixel of my tail lmfao.

night mountain
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seriously though the only one with any business breaking legs regularly is anky

barren zephyr
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Pachy pls

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Pachy too

night mountain
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i mean

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yeah im cool with that

blazing charm
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@hollow nova Not trying to be an asshole, but good god what is that grammar.

unborn quail
barren zephyr
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I like the suggestion king, but dilo is already probably the most unique dino in the game atm. I wish other dinos had some more distinguishing abilities. I guess dryo can burrow but other than that. But I still like it.

hollow nova
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@blazing charm i know , english its not my native langueg so , sometime i fvked up with grammer . But hopefully u can understand what m trying to say

blazing charm
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I understand what you're trying to say, it's a good idea and quite frankly something that should be expected.

unborn quail
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I mean, Quality of Life or not, having a way to tell between envenomated targets and standard targets would be nice

paper tendon
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Its called typing errors guys come one smh you know somebody is going to get mad when you say there grammer is garbage like wth

blazing charm
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@barren zephyr All Dilo has is a different night vision value and super high bleed. Later on there will be different levels of night-vision.

barren zephyr
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Yeah that would be great, I kind of expected different nv levels but never heard the devs confirm it.

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But like allos ability is slightly faster but weaker rex.

unborn quail
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Wait, what?

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No it isn't...

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Rex doesn't tackle shit and pile drive it with big meaty arms

barren zephyr
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I was unaware allo could do that guess I never right clicked

unborn quail
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Not currently of course, but that is the planned gimmick, Which is what jaffad's original point is based on

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Future changes based on a creature's planned gimmick

barren zephyr
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wtf lol. now i wanna see dinosaurs doin' some straight WWE shit, so thanks for that

brittle bough
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some straight wwe shit + intense ragdolls pls

grave karma
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it would be kinda cool to see a rex just plow through a herd of stuff

brittle bough
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give me collision damage, intense ragdolls, a bunch of juvi dryos, and a pachy so i can go bowling and have a good time

lament kayak
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Lets see a rex full on body a maia or something

night mountain
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I honestly hope ptera flying into something at warp speed does a shitload of damage

lament kayak
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It'll break its beak or bones

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Kamikaze?

night mountain
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oh yeah it'd kill it

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i just wanna kill shit by kamikaze lol

lament kayak
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Ever get bored? Pierce a rex's skull with a well timed petra kamikaze

night mountain
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lol a blinding mechanic

lament kayak
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just imagine a horde of petras impaling themselves into a pair of rexes due to spite

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"Yo he killed my sub giga earlier, lets get em boys!"

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A fun way to go out

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Instead of areas sticking out of your back its just petra beaks or bodies

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Just imagine a petra bouncing off of things, whimpering and falling limp after it does a kamikaze

night mountain
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that'd be hilarious

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imagine the deathmatch servers

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devs, fund ittt

lament kayak
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Oh hell yeah

violet magnet
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@lament kayak sucho already has the best water stam of any dino...?

night mountain
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lol that last feedback

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ifonly.jpg

violet magnet
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bless their heart
"hello, welcome to Isle Official, you must be new here"

lament kayak
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@violet magnet oh it does but when spino arrives and fish ai come as well, sucho will be pretty damn semi aquatic

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and also, deino

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they are all water boys

night mountain
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imo deino should be unable to drown from lack of stam in water

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crocodiles don't really actively swim

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well they do but not like, to not drown

violet magnet
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but how will deino drink

night mountain
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they just sit on the bottom and come up for air or float if they don't feel like swimming

violet magnet
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will we just press E when we're submerged and deino opens its mouth and drinks that way

night mountain
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would make sense

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crocodiles literally CAN'T drink by dipping their snout in the water

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another fun one would be needing to surface to eat

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muh accuracy flavor

grand brook
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wasn't spino even more aquatic than sucho ?

night mountain
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I think so

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idk about in this game though, isle spino barely resembles the actual animal so

grand brook
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like in the scale of aquatic dinos autro would be the most terrestrial, followed by sucho, then spino and finally deino

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maybe, but the concept art does hint at a more aquatic creature than sucho, with a powerful flatened tail and webbed feet

barren zephyr
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@true void i absolutely would LOVE that
it would maybe courage people to herd more

night mountain
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Worth mentioning spitting an anticoagulant wouldn't do anything

paper tendon
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@river talon They probably are. Along with fish my guy

river talon
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Aweasome

paper tendon
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If they dont its gonna be hella not fun underwater when you swim

river talon
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Yea maybe add some rocks and underwater caves too maybe, but just small caves not super caves far under the earth

barren zephyr
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Thats not how anti coagulants...work..

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@formal vine

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basically this

valid zephyr
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that still needs to enter your blood to work

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spitting it at somone wouldn't help

lilac swallow
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Exactly

barren zephyr
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^^

paper tendon
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Lol facts not unless your a spitting cobra and if im correct a dilo is not

barren zephyr
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Spiting cobras do not spit anti coagulants

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They spit neurotoxins

lilac swallow
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Anticouagulant basically dilutes blood and you cant dilute something you arent in Direct Contact with

barren zephyr
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^

night mountain
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Killing something by spraying anti coagulants on it is like trying to kill a dog with chocolate milk in a spray bottle

barren zephyr
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That fucking example is killing me

night mountain
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Also I still don't get why suggesting a hypo taco that can dig trenches you can fall in was worthy of it being removed and a strike. Not like that's any dumber/wilder than the current strains of "hypo spino with trample damage and split jaws so it can swallow giant animals whole" or "psychic eyeless spinosaurus that controls the weather and only eats liquids".

barren zephyr
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How is that worth a strike.

night mountain
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idk

paper tendon
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If your talking about the game i dont see the problem lol

night mountain
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Thats all I can figure anyway, was silently removed from the server and that post was the only thing deleted

blazing charm
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"Hyper Taco" is an overused joke, if you were being genuinely serious I'd take it up with a moderator or Punch and try to explain yourself.

night mountain
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I guess, but so is "buff giga" and I don't see people getting strikes for suggesting that as long as they actually pitch an idea for it.

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Not even the mild diarrhea guy was removed lol

barren zephyr
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i wonder who was that

night mountain
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I do however enjoy the implication the mods think hypo taco is a more outlandish and rulebreaking suggestion than someone literally saying you should be able to track a giga by the scent of its diarrhea lmao

valid zephyr
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Honestly hypo taco could easily be a legit suggestion. I don't see how it is strike worthy.

night mountain
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I forget what I even said, something about it being a burrower that like dug out hidden pitfall traps dinosaurs could fall into and break legs/take a bunch of damage, or something.

valid zephyr
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Honestly hypo taco and burrowing seems perfectly reasonable. Not gonna happen but it's not exactly a troll suggestion.

mental sleet
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If it's well justified it really isn't a troll suggestion.

grand brook
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hypo taco might be an overused joke sure, but the suggestion itslef was no different for other hypo ideas that have been tossed out, and it certainly isn't the most balls to the wall insane.

barren zephyr
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its not confirmed to be its name

pale prairie
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@tender latch hope is not the name of the map, it's just what the community has been calling it.

tender latch
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Nice

paper tendon
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Who cares like honestly

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It just seems like nothing is confirmed

lament kayak
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@night mountain It doesn't have to be a hypo taco as well, it could be a whole new dino or strain that supports this idea of making traps. Maybe these traps could be covered by foliage just so unsuspecting dinos fall in? Also, insert dark souls 3 falling death scream

valid zephyr
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yep it was a serious and good suggestion

lament spoke
valid zephyr
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If pachys were made half decent then the limit would be fine

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but currently they're just high pressure blood bags waiting to explode when hit by a pin

lament spoke
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Yee. That's why they aren't included

ionic comet
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But it shouldn't be like that, its ridiculous. They should at least give it better bleed heal considering it takes more than maia to grow (2hrs)

valid zephyr
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yep its bleed res is stupid atm.

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utah bleeds it out in two bites, dilo in 1

barren zephyr
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@barren zephyr A comfort system similar to Beasts of Bermuda / the affinity system(whatever it really is) would be perfect for that kind of thing.

*If the deino swims for too long with no breaks, it gets uncomfortable and grows/regens stam/etc slower.

  • If the deino doesn’t spend enough time on shore sunbathing on clear days, it becomes uncomfortable and grows/regens stam/etc slower.
  • Maybe water temperature could be a thing we’d have to deal with/manage as a deino. Like a cold glacial spring would be a bad place for a deino to go. Or diving too deep in the ocean where the temp drops would be a bad spot too. They’d be more inclined to stay within X feet of the surface where the water is warmer. At least spend most of their time there with quick jaunts into the colder areas.
viral creek
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As long as it dosen't actually kill you like what bob does.

grave karma
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tfw you die because its raining

barren zephyr
valid zephyr
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It's unrealistic to choose to stop growing

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crocs keep growing until they can't sustain themselves

barren zephyr
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wich is kinda the point of the game, u live until you die

compact coyote
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yeah but its a bad choice

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if they make it so depending on your current size, youll use more food and whatnot, then i dont see a problem in allowing you to stop growing

neat flicker
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it's more than likely not gonna be as easy as just growing to hyper size. A lot of people probably aren't going to make it there

stray cloak
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@barren zephyr you just described the affinity system

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Which is gone be great if it's done right

barren zephyr
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Hopefully. We don't actually know much of anything about it

barren zephyr
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@fathom harness Or you could just make a deino and suicide/get eaten when you think it's getting too big for your taste.

jolly willow
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yeah but having to reset just because you don't wanna turn into a hyper sized starving machine kinda stinks

fathom harness
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@barren zephyr Very true. Just putting the idea out there.

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It's probably something more for a mod to do once mod support is implemented.

indigo sun
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I really dont see the problem people have with someone wanting to stay at a smaller size. Like, why should i have to kill myself and regrow every time i get too big when I could just choose to grow to be the larger deino. This isnt real life, these arent real life alligators, let people choose not to be huge

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Instead of throwing a fuss when people dont want to be fuckin huge and starving as a 2.0 deino when they could just as easily make that optional and let people stay at 1.0

fathom harness
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^

barren zephyr
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Because it's intrinsic to playing the dino itself. It's like asking to play a utah that physically can't jump.

blazing charm
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@fathom harness What about Kaprosuchus? That could play similarly to Deino, plus have some terrestial gameplay.

barren zephyr
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I wouldn't shoot down a suggestion to implement a smaller croc boi, but deino's infinigrow is just how it do

grave karma
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@fleet surge the point of it is to bleed out big things at night, why would you nerf it so much

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it literally has the 2nd lowest base biteforce in survival

barren zephyr
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#NeverNerfDilos

fleet surge
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@grave karma Its jaw designs would mean it scavenged or ate small prey, lizards, fish, rodents biting a rex would have broken the jaw.

grave karma
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yes, but the devs are more concerned with balance rather than realism

pale prairie
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ok, but in this video game, it's a nocturnal bleeder.

grave karma
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it'd suck major ass to only be able to bite juvies

fathom harness
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Kapro is not a bad idea

pale prairie
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yeah, but it wouldn't be able to share the deino animations

pale prairie
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Compsognathus would be great as AI, along with the current velociraptor AI, they would make a great "Clean up crew"
but as a playable animal, not so much, i'd rather see playable herrerasaurus or austroraptor, besides, ptera is going to be the smallest playable animal in survival iirc.

zinc void
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wasnt hererra gonna climb trees at one point?

indigo sun
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No that's just what people have come up with for an ability

pale prairie
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yeah, a community member (honestly can't remember who) came up with a tree climbing concept for herrerasaurus, i seem to remember it being shared in the announcements channel at some point, but i can't seem to find it now.

night mountain
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Honestly herra is a really fun scavenger as is. I'd personally keep it the same, buff its stupid glass ankles, and if it needs a special ability maybe like make it able to smell further than other things

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idk what tree climbing would do for it since you can just run away from anything

paper tendon
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It would allow for a escape route and it will make the dino very hard to catch if trying to hunt it

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Its fast already lol

night mountain
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I guess but it's already SO fast, it can straight up run away from literally anything no prob

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idk im cool with whatever as long as they don't mess with its speed, thats what makes herra fun

paper tendon
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Yea exactly

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People and there ideas 😂

pale prairie
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i can't find the post, but eh, iirc the idea was, herrera could climb trees to get away from danger.
there was also something similar to the ambush mechanic, you would jump from a certain point in the tree and get a speed boost when you hit the ground, a bit faster than the normal ambush iirc.

compact coyote
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kapro isnt a bad idea until you realise how small it is

night mountain
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Could just make it bigger than normal. Some of the in game species are already like that

paper tendon
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The thing is, when devs throw dinos in sandbox, it just seems like they are not going to continue to work on them

compact coyote
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then why not just have a land croc like raui or whatever its name is

night mountain
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I mean, fair.

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Kapro is more iconic and cooler lookin though

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I say use the best crocodilian tho

paper tendon
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There goes my dog

golden shoal
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@pale prairie Oh no doubt, but on servers like Isla Nycta it could be injected and personally I'd love to be a compy. We can be Velo now, but it just... I dunno.

sick crescent
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Compy would be worse most likely

night mountain
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the only way to make compy not absolute trash would be to have like

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your "character" work as like 30 spawned ones as a school

barren zephyr
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But compys are more adorable

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I ✅'d the suggestion just cos i wanna be a cute lil bby compy, too :3

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don't even care how weak it is lol

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If you want a mechanic for them, maybe buff their bleed/damage by 10% for each other compy in the pack/group , to enhance their swarmy nature 🙃

golden shoal
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Sucho is meant to be a water hunter, not a land hunter. It's meant to feed on fish and dinosaurs coming close to the water, not chase down people.

jovial saddle
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I mean not give it breakneck speed but a small speed buff

grave karma
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to what?

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i do agree to a slight trot speed buff

barren zephyr
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sucho is not a deinosuchus @golden shoal its supposed to be able to sustain itself on fish from rivers not ambush from lakes it but that means it shouldn't be capable of moving on land

golden shoal
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Sucho being faster then it is would make it a land hunter, which is not what it was designed for. It has a role, and it's role doesn't require more speed. It is supposed to hang near lakes, rivers and ambush creatures near it. Not chase long distances for prey.

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It already out weights most dinosaurs of its class and that weight gives it a good bite with bleed. Now you want to give it more speed? If you want to play a fast predator with decent bite play an allo. It fits its role well.

lilac swallow
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Sucho being faster would also mean It Will be both faster and stronger than diablo rendering diablo useless at sucho's sight

barren zephyr
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sucho is not going to destroy diablo as how combat itself is getting changed before the devs take any suggestion ideas

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sucho is legit going to be toned down to allos lvl while diablo is getting accidentally buffed with locational and collision. that is if it takes less dmg with its frill

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sucho shouldn't be faster but should have a better trot or something to not be completely unviable on land

lilac swallow
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Better trot definitely

grave karma
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@pulsar lake whut is "theets"

pulsar lake
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teeth

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Sorry XD

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@grave karma

grave karma
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oh

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i agree then lol

night mountain
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I honestly love the smaller crocodilian idea. Literally all you'd need to do is make a deino that stops growing somewhere in the juvi stage and is maybe a little faster than deino so you aren't just food

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wouldn't even need a new model tbh, most modern crocs look near identical anyway

indigo sun
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Nah, it'd look kinda stupid if they just reused the model. These wouldnt be modern crocs, theyve got differences. Kaprosuchus, if they did it, has to actually look like itself. Bit of a facial and bodily difference there

paper oriole
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they could just add itty bitty borealosuchus he looks similar enough so he could uses modified deino model but is baby

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for the people who want to be and stay a small croc, the size diff is massive

night mountain
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I mean im down for kapro too but just a small maybe recolored deino would fit

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a lot of prehistoric crocs were samey too

fathom harness
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^^^ Exactly.

paper oriole
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kapro would be fun and adorable, if they want to make the model for it it'd be ❤

indigo sun
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It'd be neat to have something smaller and faster, not stuck in water

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Maybe it'd still be water based with more of an ability to go between water sources

barren zephyr
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like a compy!

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.>

indigo sun
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No.

paper oriole
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i mean it's in the database isnt it

barren zephyr
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meh @ water, i just want my cute lil lizard chicken

indigo sun
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Play velo then

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Its the same thing

barren zephyr
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totes not D:

indigo sun
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Still a little chicken thing

paper oriole
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compy is even more pathetic than velo

barren zephyr
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even more cute than velo

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FTFY

paper oriole
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why not both

indigo sun
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Idk i think the thin little mouth is kinda cute

paper oriole
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pretty sure compy is in the database somewhere like if somebody wants to suffer at the bottom of the food chain why not let them

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same with tacos, taco for survival ples

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imagine how awful trying to hit a compy would be as a carno or something lol

barren zephyr
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OTOH, bby compy probably literally couldn't penetrate a carno's skin lol

paper oriole
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baby compy would be like oros when theyre injected at 0.01 growth

jovial blade
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Compy could work tbh

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A scavenger just following other carnis eating scraps

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Its basically like Herrera and austro

night mountain
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herrera will always be the best at that

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maybe next to ptera

barren zephyr
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But a compy would be way more adorable than herrera :3

jovial blade
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There isn't really much to scavenging atm

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Theres no rotting meat

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Diseases

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Etc

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The only thing Herrera has over austro atm is stats

barren zephyr
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yet

jovial blade
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But if they add resistances and all those stuff

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There could be possible paths for scavengers and some having different benefits

night mountain
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compy would get kosed by literally everything though

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herra is at least fast

jovial blade
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Compy would be super agile

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And small

paper oriole
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compy could also hide easy af

jovial blade
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It wouldn't even be worth killing

violet magnet
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herrera is already made with its own sounds and animations, just needs a juvie stage, and it could be grown fast like dryo

night mountain
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just run over it, iirc everything is getting trample damage

jovial blade
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It would literally hide effortlessly

paper oriole
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compy killing would be as useless to do as hatchlign killing, well even more useless since you arent even doing it to eliminate future threats

violet magnet
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the ai velos might go after the compys tho

night mountain
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loadssss of people kos to not be crazy bored

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i'd think compy would starve easy though, likely too slow to properly trail most carnis

jovial blade
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Tent

night mountain
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unless it was really fast i guess

jovial blade
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Do you know how small a compy is

paper oriole
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if they made the fireflies and dragonflies/butterflies edible tho

jovial blade
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Its smaller then velo

violet magnet
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compy would strictly be a scavenger, maybe kill the odd utah juvie here and there, would get bodied by all the other juvies

paper oriole
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to things like compy and maybe utah juvie and galli

jovial blade
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Compy would basically rely on bugs and scavenging

night mountain
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ooh edible bugs WOULD be good

paper oriole
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some people would be content with that honestly

violet magnet
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juvie herra would probably be the size of adult compy...?

jovial blade
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Yep

violet magnet
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maybe?

jovial blade
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I'd see compy being popular

paper oriole
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and its in the database already

jovial blade
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Its basically austro

night mountain
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im not against compy btw

jovial blade
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Austro is weak as shit

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But people still love it

paper oriole
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lots wont even kill austros because people love the giggle chickens

jovial blade
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Scavenging is a different game style in itself

paper oriole
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compy would probably be in the same spot

jovial blade
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Compy would hide so easy anyway

night mountain
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lol when ai fights back, inb4 oros and tacos killing compies they see

violet magnet
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herra hides easy

night mountain
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herras tail curl helps hiding SO much

paper oriole
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when ai fights back and this happens to juvie utahs

night mountain
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LOL

paper oriole
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YEET

violet magnet
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austro slightly less easy because of its tail but still pretty well

jovial blade
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Lol wtf

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Where is that vid from

paper oriole
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transformers i think??

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idk

violet magnet
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transformers age of extinction

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at the very start

jovial blade
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Why is that even there

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Lmao

violet magnet
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they needed dinos to justify the dinobots later

paper oriole
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because the people who made transformers realized how amazing taco is

jovial blade
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Tacos had enough

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rise of the planet of tacos

barren zephyr
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Agree with trikes runnin' mixed herds. Disagree with some arbitrary number of hours in one spot - I'd rather there be a mechanical incentive to keep herds on the move (like plants taking longer to spawn if the same dinosaur eats from the area repeatedly, or AI oviraptors spawning with increased frequency to steal eggs and destroy nests, etc)

outer nebula
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@north vector for one trike were not the glue, they were the ones that made no carnivore want to take a herd in the first place. trike with a herd of maias and diablos would travel the map and seek out any carnivore they found. most of the time they would go after rexes only. trikes would do majority of the attacking and the other herbs would keep the rex standing.

north vector
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Problem is there arent any herds any more

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They existed in abundance when trikes were around

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Now theres hardly any

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Not once did i ever see a herd go out on rex hunts

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They always came straight to the herd and attacked on their own decision

jovial blade
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Server I play on you can mix pack in herd

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I'd imagine herb life is alot more boring in official

north vector
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It is

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Herb to carni ratio is probably a 1:10 rn

jovial blade
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Fun thing is being in a huge herd with multiple species looking out for each other and nesting

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Also good to see herds because herbs arent that popular usually

outer nebula
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well i have couch ive seen big groups of herbivores go after any carnivore they see when the carnivore just walking by

jovial blade
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If trikes cant pair up with herbs

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How do the herbs defend themselves

outer nebula
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diablo can kill allos, maias can kill anything shy of a carno, paras in big groups can easily fend off anyhthing smaller then a sucho

north vector
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officials have no rules against kos

jovial blade
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I'd imagine herds that arent trikes in officals

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Just get slaughtered

outer nebula
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only by apex

jovial blade
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Damn that sucks

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Not really

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A pack of allos

outer nebula
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if they have diablos might as well not even try

jovial blade
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Could take on anything besides trike

outer nebula
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diablos can easily kill allos

jovial blade
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Diablo is like the only one that poses much threat

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All it takes 1 ape

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Apex

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To massacre herds

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Let alone 2 or 3

outer nebula
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not mention maias are literal tanks

jovial blade
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Maias suck lol

north vector
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not against gigas and rexes lmao

jovial blade
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They do well vs utah and dilo

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That's about it

north vector
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without trikes, there are literally no big herds rn

outer nebula
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but a 5 man trike group easily kill a 3 man giga and rex group

jovial blade
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I'd imagine lmao

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I wouldnt even bother playing herb

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On offical

north vector
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it was always an issue of apexes finding the herd, theyd attack, die, then complain

jovial blade
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You're literally apex food if you aren't a trike herd

north vector
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stupidest thing ever

outer nebula
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so it wrong when an apex carni complains but not a herbi herd

north hemlock
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what about galli and dryo herds

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👀

jovial blade
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Loool

north vector
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thats why i proposed a system to force herds to move around

graceful hazel
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Apexes are ballsy and have tendencies to not own up to the fact they’re extremely retarded.

north vector
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people hated them being a fortress

outer nebula
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thats the affinity system

north hemlock
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how come whenever carni players cry and bitch they get what they want

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🙃

graceful hazel
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🙃

jovial blade
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Because they are majority of community

north vector
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not to mention apexes almost always have control of the fight, considering they decide if it occurs in the first place

jovial blade
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It would be ok if apexes were rate

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Rate

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Fucking typo

graceful hazel
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Herbis would be more fun if most of them actually had genuine fun aspects to them lel

jovial blade
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Rare*

graceful hazel
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I’m a herbi main

north hemlock
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i like hunting down utahs and dilos as a galli

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:)

graceful hazel
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Galli and Dryo being my favorites.

jovial blade
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I enjoy herb on server I play on because we can have 5 apexes and unlimited tier 3 and lower

graceful hazel
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Galli is fun because some people actually think they can catch you without ambush.

jovial blade
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We also have non survivals

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Makes the herd actually interesting

graceful hazel
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As gross and ew as this is gonna sound I prefer herbs on more realism servers.

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Well, semi-realism.

jovial blade
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I play on semi/casual server

graceful hazel
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Just feels cooler to me lel

jovial blade
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The herd cant attack without being provoked

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But it's fair because we are allowed 5 apexes

graceful hazel
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Yea
I used to play on hardcore realism servers

outer nebula
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i have no trouble with herbis grouping up and having some fun but when they actively go out and cause trouble for an entire server then i have troubles. if you have troubles complain to the people that caused the trouble in the first place

north hemlock
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i dont like "no kosing" rules,,,

jovial blade
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I love it

graceful hazel
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I can agree with that Doc

jovial blade
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Kosing gets boring

graceful hazel
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^

jovial blade
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I let off some steam on sandbox dm

graceful hazel
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Plus it’s just annoying on sandbox.

jovial blade
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Then when I want real gameplay

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I go on semi realisim

graceful hazel
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If ya wanna get off some anger then go into a dm

north vector
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never once did a herd of 20 members cause trouble for a whole server. Youre completely blowing it out of proportion

jovial blade
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And dm gets boring

graceful hazel
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It’s what i do lel.

jovial blade
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After 10 mins

graceful hazel
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True

jovial blade
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I cant imagine playing on a Kos server

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For more then 1 hour

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😂

outer nebula
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really? Couch because i can name several account they did

north hemlock
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i love killing people

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especially when they're something thats a pain to grow

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👀

outer nebula
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they also seeked out herbis that even opposed their ideals

jovial blade
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Dictator herbs lol

north vector
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i guess i need to remind you that there are no rules against that behavior, dictator herbs was a false rumor probably begun by the dumb apexes that died trying to fight 5 trikes

jovial blade
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I feel like you losse touch with killing and hunting

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If you play on kos servers

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Which is why I prefer semi realisim

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Hunt for food

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Not kill for fun

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Fights can be fun some times anyway when both parties agree

outer nebula
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i played herbis when the new rules were in and i think it better. herbis have more player interaction and have to actively be prepared for anything not sit around with their trike buddies and say hey look a giga/rex

north vector
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are you kidding?

outer nebula
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nope

north vector
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there arent even any herds to be in

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theyre non existant

outer nebula
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i just saw a big pack of dibbles today

north vector
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Herbis have LESS interaction and ever more of a reason to go carnivore because solo herb isnt viable

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unless its galli or dryo

outer nebula
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idk what your talking about i see plenty of solo herbis

jovial blade
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Tbh I only see dibble herds working properly besides trike

north vector
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good luck ever seeing a para herd

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or pachy herd

jovial blade
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Picking anything other then that you're just not going to have a fun time lol

outer nebula
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i see para mais and dryos

north vector
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hardly ever

sick crescent
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I literally was just playing herbivore

north vector
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they used to be common when herds were actually functional

sick crescent
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The only other herbivores we encountered a solo Diablo

outer nebula
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maybe not para or pachy i blame the bleed resistance

sick crescent
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Out of 4 hours

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Sucho, Dilos, Utahs, Rexes, Allos, even a Cerato

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Gigas

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In groups mind you

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Scattered groups

outer nebula
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well utah is because there was a streamer on

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dilos were also because of a streamer

north vector
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large herds dont exist anymore, they cant without trike

sick crescent
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Large herds only exist in streamer groups/events

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Tbf

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Out of alllll those carnivores

north vector
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those arent natural occurences though

sick crescent
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Not my galli group

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1 Solo Diablo

outer nebula
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you mean large herds can exist in staying in one place with out trikes

north vector
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no

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not even that

sick crescent
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Which is bad in by itself Doc

north vector
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theyre smoked by apexes

sick crescent
#

Imagine needing to stay in one spot to survive

outer nebula
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XD that every player in the game. the only people who move around are streamers, other then that majority of the player base stay in their own little corners. in the last two weeks i have found more afking apexs then actual players on the map

north vector
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@sick crescent what did you think of the 2nd part of the suggestion

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should i delete it

sick crescent
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I don’t necessarily agree

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The 15 limit is okay

north vector
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not sure if im the best at problem remediation

sick crescent
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It feels like a 2-3 herd limit when you’re playing herbi though lol

outer nebula
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if anything i would suggest only 2 adult trikes can group up with a herd not 5

sick crescent
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It never increases above that unless event/streamer

north vector
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yeah no

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thats nothing

sick crescent
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2 trikes meh

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It’s better than no Trikes, Couch

outer nebula
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and then move the herd limit to 20

north vector
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2 is still pitiful

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at the very least it has to equal the carni apexes

outer nebula
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at lease then you can have 18 other dinosaurs

night mountain
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" placing a day-by-day rule " good luck policing that

outer nebula
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they got a point that when we get to the realm of realism server and we all know what a hassle those servers are

jovial blade
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I dont see why herds need to move that often

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They have a water source

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And plenty of food

north vector
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i couldnt think of any other way to force a group of 20 herbivores to move location in a way that didnt feel arduous

night mountain
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honestly just remove the no trike mixing rule. It was a bad idea and that's all there really needs to be to it.

jovial blade
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If none of that is gone why do they need to migrate

north vector
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people had issues

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i had to address it

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that was a central problem when the mega herd existed

jovial blade
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Will water sources run out?

north vector
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just letting trike back into the mix doesnt fix the underlying issues that led to them being seperated

night mountain
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mega death herds are better than what we have now

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something needs to be done but thats not separating trikes imo

north vector
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making them move is a start

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The issues the mega herds faced when they existed consisted of being a fortress and not moving

outer nebula
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well the devs were the ones who decided to make the rule so in reality they must've seen something we were not able to see

north vector
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yes

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thats why i made the suggestion

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and it wasnt something we couldnt see

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it was obvious

night mountain
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" they must've seen something we were not able to see" lol why do people act live devs are literal gods

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devs can make bad calls too

north vector
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seperating trike from the other herbs was a horrendous mistake

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the issues they saw could have easily been fixed

outer nebula
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well punch watches the servers daily and checks what people do, and the admins help by seeing what people also do

jovial blade
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Problem is people see shit devs do as gospel

night mountain
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Yeah like that was 100% a bad decision by the devs. Theres no shame in that or anything but at this point it really does need to be overturned, half the entire roster is basically absent

jovial blade
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Ahh shit dev said this it means this is the right eay

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Way

night mountain
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YEAH like devs are also human we all make bad calls sometimes

jovial blade
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You have your own opinions

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You play on the server

night mountain
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(like the trike rule lol)

outer nebula
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wow im not taking at gospel im taking it in trust to the devs, over all they want everyone to enjoy the same game.

indigo sun
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Didnt someone say it wasnt brought up balance-wise when they did it

jovial blade
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They wont hate you for having opinions

indigo sun
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I cant remember well but that sounds familiar

night mountain
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Trust doesn't factor in though

jovial blade
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If it isnt working it isnt working

night mountain
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no ones saying devs are trying to secretly ruin the game

outer nebula
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okay you want my opinion. my opinion is that herbivores did attack juvies and stalked at spawn point just to kill any juvie carni they saw

jovial blade
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I personally dont play on officals but I've seen the suggestion happen alot

night mountain
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Yeah and carnis do the same thing

jovial blade
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About trikes should be able to mix pack again

indigo sun
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I think some other people were just salty little carnivore players who couldnt stand not losing to a herd

jovial blade
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I dont see a difference though

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Carnis do it allready

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Why are herbs different

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Isnt it a Kos server

dull cape
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And carnis wipe entire herds for fun

night mountain
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I know I play carno to creatively grief people as much as the rules arguably allow lmaooo

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didnt do that as a herb tho

jovial blade
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Omg carnos piss me off

outer nebula
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i also experienced these carni hunting herbivores and and i was minding my own business and they decided to try and kill me

jovial blade
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When they camp beach

night mountain
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im a certified goodboi cama usually

indigo sun
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So herbivores kill a few juvies they get a whole part of protection taken away
Carnivores kill whole herds and they dont get anything

outer nebula
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im not saying that

night mountain
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So? Server allows it. Why do carnivores have such a problem when herbivores act like them??

dull cape
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Do unto others as you would like done to you

outer nebula
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im say it made many players experience with the game a living hell

night mountain
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carnivores do that already tho

north vector
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@outer nebula there is no rule against kos for any animal so get that broken mindset out of your brain. several herd memebers didn on occasion kill NEAR spawn points due to the herd location which was later stopped by the admins

indigo sun
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No I'm saying that's what happens. Herbivores do the same thing as carnivores, honestly not even as bad and they get the shit kicked out of them for it

night mountain
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lol me assbiting rexs for like an hour and destroying nests as carno is ok but if a maia does it its magically an issue

dull cape
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In my experience carni players play the victim card a lot and exaggerate

north vector
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if i see a juvie carni im going to kill it because all it is is a future threat, its fault for not hiding

night mountain
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im gonna post it

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im sorry

indigo sun
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So when carnivores go around and kill fucking everything oh they can do whatever they want. Herbivores get destroyed when they kill the things that are future threats

outer nebula
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@north vector im not saying its bad but when there are a ton of new players coming to the game daily and they see a massive trike with a massive herd behind it there is nothing they can really do

indigo sun
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Oh well

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I'm sorry for new players but do they expect everyone to be nice in a survival horror game? Huge part of the game is dying

dull cape
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Gets killed by a couple herbies and go around claiming death squad

outer nebula
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okay first off very little carnivores attacked a herbi group with trikes in it

indigo sun
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Sucks if you get killed but thats part of it

night mountain
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LITERALLY whats happening here

north vector
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again you are blowing things out of proportion, on many occasion the herd let juvie carni run past

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admins guided us on that

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we were close to a SP

indigo sun
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Only time i was actually killed by a herd, trike didnt do shit. It was a dryo

dull cape
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Yeah the first thing people say if someone complains about dying is suck it up buttercup

night mountain
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idk why carnis blow up if they get killed by something they'd also kill if they could

north vector
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if they die they die, its a survival game, what do you expect?

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carnis have consistently complained about herbivores until they basically dont exist

indigo sun
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I dont see many herbivores that complain about carnivores until they get nerfed into the ground

dull cape
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Well it’s too hard for them if a herb doesn’t instantly drop dead for them

indigo sun
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Its usually just asking to be on equal ground with predators in their tier

outer nebula
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......okay now who isnt getting the point

night mountain
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herbs need to moan and present their ass for me to bite or im being oppressed as a carni player

north vector
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lmao^

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its consistently been apexes and streamers

outer nebula
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im saying it was really hard to hunt a herbivore when they had a full man herd of trikes

night mountain
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good

outer nebula
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no not good

north vector
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its supposed to be tough

night mountain
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is it better now having no herbs to hunt at all?

north vector
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Herds are supposed to kill bad carnivores

indigo sun
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How about this... instead of fucking over herbivores completely, just lower the limits they can have in a herd to 3 or 4

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3 or 4 trikes

north vector
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4

indigo sun
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Still a good bit of power there

north vector
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thats what i suggested

dull cape
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Why do you need to when there’s a server chock full of carnis to hunt?

outer nebula
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its kinda unfair when a group had basically an apex with mini apex helping it out

night mountain
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The iconic roar of a trike stretching across the plains: "Git gud"

north vector
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then hunt something you can manage? if you cant make a kill with a full apex pack then play something else

indigo sun
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I think the point of a herd is it being difficult to hunt

north vector
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thats precisely what its supposed to be

outer nebula
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i dont even play apex i play mid teir apex is boring

drowsy heron
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I just got the game and am triggered I haven't seen one herbi herd

night mountain
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Oh no now survival is too hard with trikes protecting things now you have to suffer through having ai spawned in your face

dull cape
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No player owes you their Dino’s life. It should be earned

indigo sun
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Yeah no shit they got fucked over AssSyrup. No one wants something that dies to everything else

night mountain
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lmao asssyrul welcome to the shitshow

north vector
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ugh, i just want someone to advise me on how to make a herd move location in an enjoyable manner

drowsy heron
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I tried to fight a carni with a para and I'd say shoulda ran but I slow af lol

outer nebula
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i never said they owed me their lives the strongest thing i have ever played was an allo but those get shit on by diablos and if you had a trike might as well not even try

night mountain
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don't expect to see herbs anytime soon on officials

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trike is slow as shit

indigo sun
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You cant move with a herd, sorry Couch. You'll get murdered instantly

drowsy heron
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I got the game with interest in playing herbi in herds

indigo sun
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And yeah, the fuck is a trike gonna do to catch up to you? Run away from it it cant even regen stam while standing

drowsy heron
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galli is super fun to play tho

indigo sun
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Yes it is fun

north vector
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well i highly doubt we will get trikes back unless we have a system to make a full herd move

drowsy heron
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I wanna para herd

night mountain
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seriously if you want to herd go to like, nycta. they have their horrible issues but at least herbs exist

north vector
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give me ideas people

indigo sun
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Dont play officials then. Not unless theres an event

outer nebula
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well you can, one way is to actually give them a reason to move, one they need a specific food item only cattered to that diet need

indigo sun
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Cause no one wants to die

night mountain
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oh good luck on para though its trash and barely anyone plays em at all unfortunately

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dont even get me STARTED on anky

drowsy heron
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I figured official would be best since I just got the game

night mountain
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its a literal happy meal

dull cape
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I am worried that affinity will just be used as a system to punish people for playing herbs if they don’t move every 2 mins

north vector
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the only way we will get trikes back during the recode is through a rule change, not a new mechanic

drowsy heron
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wats affinity

indigo sun
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Or make it so they dont get murdered instantly first instead of forcing them to move before they can even do it properly

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New system, not done yet

night mountain
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If it tells you anything i only play officials when i want to engage in degenerate shit

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the officials are a cesspool

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unless you want to be like, a rex or giga pair

outer nebula
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im not going to lie i would love to see herds again maybe with a few trikes not a full man group

indigo sun
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Its a simple solution of lowering numbers

night mountain
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inject shants and let them mixherd

north vector
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4 trikes from 5 already changes alot

indigo sun
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Inject fuckin camaras and let em mixherd or something

north vector
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read my suggestion

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4 trikes, 4 apexes, thats balanced

night mountain
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theri and shant injections c'mon devs please

outer nebula
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when play utah it was nice to see like maia, diablos, paras and pachies with one or two trikes

night mountain
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seeing 5 squads of trikes was rare anyway

north vector
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5 trike squads dont even form anymore

indigo sun
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I dont think I've ever seen a herd with 5 trikes on officials

night mountain
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they do on nycta dondiTroll

outer nebula
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i have seen a few

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most of the time its trikes looking for a fight

north vector
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A central issue with bringing back the big herds was that they didnt move, they turned into fortresses, unholy amounts of carnivores died, they complained, trike is gone.

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thats what im dealing with rn

dull cape
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That was greatly exaggerated

north vector
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it really isnt

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its the jist of what happened

indigo sun
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They took the solution a bit too far

dull cape
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I have yet to see a video of any of it posted anywhere

north vector
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there really werent any videos, you had to be here in april-may to see the full swing

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probably before april too actually

dull cape
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There should have been some on streams in that case

drowsy heron
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so... Nobody plays herbi anymore?

dull cape
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Or even a screenshot

north vector
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i have screenshots

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plenty

outer nebula
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yeah and couch their were groups that did go around the map causing trouble and yes there were some really nice herbivore players that had to pay for what they did

steady cosmos
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That hill that's slightly up to the west of golf pond was a spot herbis used to herd up in giant herds

night mountain
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thats the true horror survival aspect of the game. Will YOUR favorite species survive getting nerfed after a flood of whining carnvores get done with em?

indigo sun
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No not really, bud. Maybe if herbivores are able to either defend themselves or get defence from trikes, then maybe they'll start playing again

drowsy heron
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@night mountain oof

north vector
night mountain
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Who cares if they have a big herd you cant attack

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just dont attack it

north vector
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we would have like 20 peeps

dull cape
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Oh that yeah but they weren’t running around killing all the carnis. The carnis came to them

north vector
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at a time

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exactly

steady cosmos
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Nines not all herbivores have to rely on trike for defense

drowsy heron
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the point of herding is to deter ppl from attacking you

north vector
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the carnis ALWAYS came to us

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then complained about dying

indigo sun
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I said if they are able to defend themselves, not just "if they can be defended by a trike" im not a dipshit

steady cosmos
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Most herbivores have the ability to run away from things

indigo sun
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Shouldnt rely on another species completely to not die

north vector
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sadly thats the state rn

outer nebula
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@dull cape like i said the herbivore couch are describing were the good ones but there were a group that did come to the server that caused all of this

north vector
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trike is the most viable defensive herb

steady cosmos
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uh

drowsy heron
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para can't run away and I tried fighting a carni with one for awhile but my attacks seemed to do nothing

north vector
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we are working with what we got

night mountain
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para is garbage

steady cosmos
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Maybe if you just used your legs instead of trying to fight everything

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maia

night mountain
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its tragic

steady cosmos
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pachy galli dryo

night mountain
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try playing anky its literal shit

steady cosmos
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a bunch of small herbivores can run

night mountain
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if an apex sees you youre dead

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thats it

indigo sun
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And the larger ones?

north vector
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@steady cosmos 90% of herb players dont run, no idea why, its just the way it is

night mountain
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no running, no fighting, dead

drowsy heron
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I'll try anky but para is so cute I wanted to para reeeeeeeeeee

steady cosmos
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Let them die then

north vector
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its kind amind boggling

indigo sun
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Cause trike cant fight other apexes and it sure as hell cant run

dull cape
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Well if a pack of apexes ran around the sever killing everything not much was done about them. They were ignored.

indigo sun
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Not on its own

outer nebula
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trikes can easily take on apex

indigo sun
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Point was, not all herbivores are as strong as they should be

night mountain
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literally just disable rex and giga from being played for 2 weeks and watch how nice everything is

indigo sun
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And not all herbivores have the means to escape that they should habe

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*have

drowsy heron
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para can't run or defend

night mountain
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trike gets screwed over by apexs

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alone anyway

dull cape
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Not the way they are now. They get facetanked by both trike and Rex

steady cosmos
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The ones that dont have pretty good defense

drowsy heron
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para should be scary cause of it's size

night mountain
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ass, the worst part is para USED to be good

steady cosmos
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Para is scary because of its size

night mountain
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then carnivore whining happened and they nerfd it

drowsy heron
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if something can't run it should at least have defense

outer nebula
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that is true para is too slow, packy has horrible bleed resistance and heal, if gali get bit might at well roll over and die

spiral pond
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I mean galli is ok

night mountain
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galli is way too small for some reason

spiral pond
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It’s super agile and speedy

indigo sun
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Galli's alright i guess. Pretty fast, good turn

steady cosmos
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Galli is perfectly fine rn

night mountain
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its too small

steady cosmos
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Pachy needs a pick up

night mountain
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stats are ok though

dull cape
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Before a couple updates ago it seemed like the Galli model changed

outer nebula
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yes but get bit by a utah or dilo might as well considered free meal

spiral pond
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They are slower then galli

dull cape
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The legs used to be longer I think

outer nebula
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not a utah in ambush

steady cosmos
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The only herbivores that need anything rn are pachy, and trike imo

drowsy heron
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I wanna play good para reeeeeeeeeee

spiral pond
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And para

steady cosmos
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Para needs it less than those two

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way less

spiral pond
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Para only a bit more to be perfect

indigo sun
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I've been told para is something you really have to get good at before you can properly fight

dull cape
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The old para was ideal really

spiral pond
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Pachy should be slowed down to dilo speed and make it the tank that can wreck utahs and dilos

night mountain
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old para was good

steady cosmos
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It is Nines

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Old para was op

night mountain
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im STILL pissed they took bb away from anky

steady cosmos
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you talkin about the super speedy one?

night mountain
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like NOTHING justifies that

spiral pond
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Old para was good but it needed a slight nerf

steady cosmos
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the one that could basically keep up with maia?

night mountain
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bring back old pouncing austros

dull cape
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It wasn’t that fast but it was slightly faster than allo

drowsy heron
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this chat just makes me wanna play in a herbi herd more

night mountain
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herbi killsquads are fun lol

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play galli and kill juvi rexs its a good time

drowsy heron
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seems if you wanna solo herbi you have to play galli

steady cosmos
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Dryo and pachy are also good alternatives to that

night mountain
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seriously pm me if you wanna do a herbi killsquad sometime im always down

steady cosmos
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as they are small and hard to see

dull cape
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Maia is pretty good solo

indigo sun
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Dryo works too, but its a bit like a meerkat, better a social creature but works fine on its own

drowsy heron
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every other herbi I played gets instantly destroyed

spiral pond
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Actually old para was faster then dilos

night mountain
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Theri is good

dull cape
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Dilos really aren’t that fast as far as carnis go

night mountain
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but of course we cant have that so people whine about it

drowsy heron
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they should put some water closer to the beach spawn, the dinos that move at a snails pace seem to almost die before you find water

steady cosmos
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You'd be right about that lurdu

night mountain
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yeah beach spawns are hell

steady cosmos
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but its still too fast for para

indigo sun
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Yeah its unfortunate everyone fuckin hates beach spawns

spiral pond
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I mean it’s still over 38.2km while allo is 34.2

drowsy heron
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the beach is where I pretty much always spawn and if your playing para or sucho its like a big fu

night mountain
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the beach would be SO easy to make good too

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just add rivers draining into it for water and like seaweed washing up

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thats all you need

dull cape
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Most carnis can ambush away from para though and they aren’t very quiet or agile

night mountain
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idk why the beach seems so specifically designed around keeping people away from it

spiral pond
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The biggest problem for para is allo

steady cosmos
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@north vector lol that 2nd part of your suggestion doesnt sound good

drowsy heron
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I just don't wanna be dying from thirst

steady cosmos
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forcing players to move with announcements doesnt sound like a good idea

night mountain
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i honestly think its mostly devs had trouble coding a freshwater river flowing into saltwater lol

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all the "coincidental" dams at the shoreline

spiral pond
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If you run, it will track you down, if you fight, you will most likely die if it uses spam ambush like all allos do

night mountain
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seriously tho lemme just point to my argentinosaurus suggestion

drowsy heron
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I tried to fight cause para slow af and I don't think the attacks did anything

north vector
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@steady cosmos why did u dislike the first part. im redoing the 2nd

night mountain
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They do its damage is just trash

dull cape
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Yeah that’s why old para was ideal. They could stand up to allos and took skill to take down.

steady cosmos
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I just dont like the idea of trikes being the "glue" of a herd

north vector
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thats what they were

night mountain
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They were

steady cosmos
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Most herbis didnt need them

drowsy heron
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herds should be able to defend themselves

steady cosmos
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They could form herds on their own

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They can

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still

north vector
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trikes are gone now, herds are extremely rare now

steady cosmos
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There just arent as many because people dont know how/when to run or defend as herbi

north vector
steady cosmos
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Ntm the amount of carnivores there are rn

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which will likely change if/when they change the ai

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at least the ammount of adults

drowsy heron
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a lot of the time playing herbi I just try hiding lol

dull cape
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Part of it’s because they’ve been systematically rooted out

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And the rules put them in a vulnerable position

drowsy heron
night mountain
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You know I used to hate this idea and still do, but just put a cap on how many carnivores can be in a server. Nothing else is gonna work.

drowsy heron
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me being a sneaky

night mountain
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wait is that rn

steady cosmos
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Also I just like the idea of trike being a douchebag type

night mountain
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ew kick it

drowsy heron
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no it was ahile back

night mountain
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oh lol

dull cape
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It’s a ninja noodle

night mountain
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I hope locational makes trike good

drowsy heron
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I was watching them a long time before I got noticed

night mountain
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make a horn to the chest permanently disable an apex

steady cosmos
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I hope trike gets to fucking instakill things that run straight into its horns

night mountain
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me too

dull cape
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Same

paper oriole
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i hope trike can keep small dinos impaled on its horns

night mountain
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ME TOO

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lol collecting trophies

drowsy heron
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I want this

steady cosmos
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That wouldnt be very good for hygiene

night mountain
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no thats the point, then your horns cause horrible infections

paper oriole
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i want to paint my horns red with the blood of juvie rexes

steady cosmos
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Could also make you very sick

night mountain
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stab someone with a horn thats has a taco stuck on it for 2 weeks