#general-feedback-discussion
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@blazing charm now 3 moments your suggestion would’ve been useful
@ slow motion deaths: welcome to ragdoll physics
Okay, I appreciate that you like it.
I really do.
But could you please tone it down with the tagging?
Yeah
Thanks.
@paper tendon there really isnt a lot of evidence that dinosaurs had a size difference between males and females and I believe it was stated that they wouldn't be doing sexual dimorphism beyond the colors.
I dont see much of a reason for it anyway
Interesting because further back some one mentioned it and they said they would most likely implement it. And i think it would be normal to have a size difference lol
Oh well if you can find that I'd be happy to take a look
But again, i dont see a reason for it when the colors work just fine
Just take a look in official answers and you will find it
It would be different thats all.
All i found was they would try some experimentation with it which does mean it's possible but it seems unnecessary to me. The devs might feel otherwise
Who would be larger or smaller then? And would the size difference come with stat changes too?
Damage is linked to weight innit?
I have no idea mate
I think that part is changing. I dont think weight is gonna be part of combat forever
It would be a nice new different addition to the game. If they dont then give us new skin patterns if they want to just you skin customization
I believe they said patterns might come
I agree. It'd be neat to have some different pattern options
Colors on the other hand i truly don’t care for
i need moar purple : (
same i want purple rex so bad
i wish dilo had a wider array of colours, even ones that arent available to most other dinos because venomous animals tend to have bright 'warning' colours anyway
and it's be optional so like why not lol
you can already inject a good number of the dinos at smaller sizes, an many servers allow these requests, including 25% 50% and 0.01% that i've seen personally. unless you meant obtaining these dinos without going through an injection? @azure arch
Your right the real question is why not? This game is already set to be human made dinosaurs so who cares throw hella colors in the game not hot pink and shit like that tho
yeah not like neon purple and pink and shit, just more vibrant colours for certain dinos
i think males should have more vibrant colours overall than females too even if they have the same selection for the most part, or maybe like there is a the pattern variation there could also be options for how vibrant the colours you picked are (dull, average, vibrant)
I would like that ^^ but truly i would like something different, because current skin customization does get quite dull at times
i'm assuming they're going to add more patterns in the future, then not every dino will have the same spots and stripes
Facts
which is the biggest problem rn
also some real labels for the colours would be great, like instead of "utah 5, rex 2, dilo 3" it would be like "dilo green, utah grey, allo yellow, carno black"
such a pain in the ass to select colours for colourblind people lol, especially when im trynna make a camo
😂
Someone also suggested that there should be more info on the dinosaur you are about to select(on selection screen not just press esc and it shows you speed and shit). I actually liked the idea because it shows you what your abilities are and it just overall makes you excited about the dino you are about to use
aye, something like the little info sheets here would be cool too
^^^ yea something like that but that might be to much info for some people
perhaps, hopefully some good info staating the playstyle of the animal enough for people who dont know them all yet will be added tho
might help with the people default clicking rex because it's cool and famous if they know it's a low stamina ambush hunter with a huge growth time behind it, instead of the chase a speeding car for 10 minutes rex from JP
True
Simple things like that make games the best not saying The Isle is not already considering they dont have any competition right now
i trust that they'll flesh out our customization options in the future
and the dino info sheets as you said, no way it'd go live past development state when the stats arent accurate during growth too
Yea
@paper oriole Please direct me to any semi-realism servers that do that, please!!
Why on earth would dinosaurs have thermal vision
Wow that would be awesome. I mean these are man made dinos
ehhh, i think thermal vision is a bit much, hiding is a big part of surviving and thermal just removes any point to bothering to hide
Maybe for like a strain or something. None of the dinosaurs in game however unrelistic have really weird bizarre powers
Dilos are pretty snakelike
snakes have heat pits
why tf would a chunky-ass strain have thermal vision
smaller dinos should have it to help them find smaller prey
So since theri is pretty birdlike should it get flight?
Yea a strain or something but would be very fun mate to murder everyone
It wasn't built for flight
i could see hyper having thermal and thats about it; nothing can hide from a hyper
Dilo looks like it could be built for thermal vision on top of night vision
Lol theri doesn’t have wings
what it lacks in brute strength it makes up for skill and bleed.
Theri doesn't have wings, just like dilo doesn't have heat pits. You guys know how thermal vision works right?
Plus it would have a long cooldown
and a short usage time.
How do you know they didn't tentacle? Do heat pits have bones?
Dilo could have had heat pits.
well lets give a look at the model, unless youre gonna move to #paleotalk lol
the one in the isle does, so get over it
Ok but this game doesn’t necessarily go for realism you guys.... these Dino’s are man made.
So why is it such a big deal if it gets thermal vision?
Once again who cares these are man made dinos lol
lets give dilo tentacles too, those didn't fossilize so maybe it had them
Let me get the duct tape.
even that aside idk why anyone would want to buff dilo of all things
And thermal would be a huge giveaway for anyone even if they have a good hiding spot it’s would just make hiding pointless
Like, the thermal vision literally lasts for 3 seconds
It could have a 10 minute cooldown instead of 5
So a new power to help it find hidden things isn't a buff?
then its not even worth it at all lmao
then its not even worth it at all
Well you said it's too overpowered
Thermal vis would prob be for hypos or some shit high so chances you even get a chance to play with thermal is slim
Yeah it would be for like Neuro or something
Dilo does
Neuro does the blinding thing and the weather change, remember?
And you forget
I'm just saying dilo doesn't need buffs at all, let alone a weird power it definitely didn't have
venom is at least not TOTALLY out there
yes we know.
Yeah and dilo has superior NV and bleed but you wanted to give it more power lmao
thermal is literally meant for animals that don't use vision lol
thats why snakes have it and use it in the dark
Don't you need EYES to use it tho
no
....
'vision'
fam what do you think thermal vision is.
Lol
-.-
do you.. do you think snake's eyes work like the thermal cameras?
because thats not how that works.
Gotta love snakes
Bah, It's already in suggestions. Just X or check mark
Snakes are amazing FYI
answer me lmao
#Dontkillthesnake
heat sensing in snakes has nothing to do with eyes
Just noticed my dog looks just like that pic
lol
now, i could see other ways for dilo to be better at tracking. maybe their scent could reach farther and pick up more minor things.
like if a carnivore recently ate, maybe dilo could smell the blood on their face, or scent footprints longer than other dinosaurs can, or something of that sort.
but thermal, nah. better suited for hypers, because the whole point to hypers is that they kill everything and nothing can hide from them
Yerrrr
maybe, like faraway water, they could see blood on the ground/items/etc through the map when they scent, so they could see it from farther away, which would help them find weakened prey- or at least areas where skirmishes happened. would add a bit more threat to fighting/hunting at night 'cause dilos may come for you if you arent careful or aware.
Titanboa should get the thermal. If they can make it playable.
Yea in a million years lol . Its a snake
Who likes snakes these days. Im cool with it 95% of the community says f snakes
Titanoboa probably didn't have heat pits either, but that'd make it unique and it's not a huge stretch so I'd be down
No. But dilo probably didnt have venom either. But for gameplay it works.
I mean, we have a venomous Dilo so i'd say anything is possible-
damnit, beat me to it.
eh, it is "close enough" for thermal, id let that pass lol
Yea we dont tho lol
venom is at least a thing tons of different animals use so a venomous dinosaur isn't that weird
I dont see a venemous dilo in gmae right now
fam
its supposed to be, they're changing its bleed to venom that i think is gonna work similarly
Chill chill dont get mad
?? no ones mad, youre just looking a bit silly
Dilo is venom is its bleed according to dondi
bleed = anti-coagulating venom lul
Usually when someone says fam there coming with a whole paragraph
i mean i figured the fact i wasnt? typing? was an indicator that i wasnt? but sure
Hopefully the venom gets reworked to be more distinguishable from bleed.
dilos in game have monitor tier venom where it mostly just makes you bleed a lot
Lol
yeah id be cool with that
someone suggested that the bleed indicator be purple, or at least have some purple accompaniment when one is envenomed
Also for the anky stun thing not a fan but only because anky deserves full on bb
and is getting it eventuallyyyyy iirc
i really want meg ;c
One moment.
i think bb in general could do with going up in severity
like stun -> fracture -> full break, or something like that
Honestly, I don't really care for Megalania anymore. But i'm not gonna go into that because I don't want to derail.
yeah its weird you heal off bb in a few minutes
even in game time you heal a smashed leg in like, an afternoon
because nobody wants to sit around for 6-8 weeks in game time to heal a broken leg, wtf...
Its taking me a year to heal my slightly stretched leg irl lmao
..i think the point was more to go from broken to fractured to healed
Bb should be deadly to such large dinos. But we're getting off topic now.
Thats true outlaw
i mean not necessarilyyy, there was a suggestion abt bb
how is that offtopic this is like, the exact place to talk about that
no ones saying for it to take 6-8 weeks in game, you should just like
probably starve if you break a leg
thats what happens to large animals that break legs generally
obv don't implement that until bb is fixed though
and the glass ankles of a lot of dinosaurs
Yah, perhaps a sort of stumble or slide effect, resulting in a break in the ribs
something perhaps survivable for a rex
Yeah BB is so weird right now, you can plummet off a cliff and be fine, but step on a pebble and bones crumble.
if... making said trex more vulnerable to damage from the side
someone could try put that in suggestions...
locational damage will be a thing, so ehh? may be already coming
i think broken ribs and stuff are coming if i remember right
Man I love these devs
locational damage is gonna be so nice.... ive lost too many dinosaurs to rexes from them shattering all of my femurs with the last pixel of my tail lmfao.
seriously though the only one with any business breaking legs regularly is anky
@hollow nova Not trying to be an asshole, but good god what is that grammar.
I like the suggestion king, but dilo is already probably the most unique dino in the game atm. I wish other dinos had some more distinguishing abilities. I guess dryo can burrow but other than that. But I still like it.
@blazing charm i know , english its not my native langueg so , sometime i fvked up with grammer . But hopefully u can understand what m trying to say
I understand what you're trying to say, it's a good idea and quite frankly something that should be expected.
I mean, Quality of Life or not, having a way to tell between envenomated targets and standard targets would be nice
Its called typing errors guys come one smh you know somebody is going to get mad when you say there grammer is garbage like wth
@barren zephyr All Dilo has is a different night vision value and super high bleed. Later on there will be different levels of night-vision.
Yeah that would be great, I kind of expected different nv levels but never heard the devs confirm it.
But like allos ability is slightly faster but weaker rex.
Wait, what?
No it isn't...
Rex doesn't tackle shit and pile drive it with big meaty arms
I was unaware allo could do that guess I never right clicked
Not currently of course, but that is the planned gimmick, Which is what jaffad's original point is based on
Future changes based on a creature's planned gimmick
wtf lol. now i wanna see dinosaurs doin' some straight WWE shit, so thanks for that
some straight wwe shit + intense ragdolls pls
it would be kinda cool to see a rex just plow through a herd of stuff
give me collision damage, intense ragdolls, a bunch of juvi dryos, and a pachy so i can go bowling and have a good time
Lets see a rex full on body a maia or something
I honestly hope ptera flying into something at warp speed does a shitload of damage
Ever get bored? Pierce a rex's skull with a well timed petra kamikaze
lol a blinding mechanic
just imagine a horde of petras impaling themselves into a pair of rexes due to spite
"Yo he killed my sub giga earlier, lets get em boys!"
A fun way to go out
Instead of areas sticking out of your back its just petra beaks or bodies
Just imagine a petra bouncing off of things, whimpering and falling limp after it does a kamikaze
Oh hell yeah
@lament kayak sucho already has the best water stam of any dino...?
bless their heart
"hello, welcome to Isle Official, you must be new here"
@violet magnet oh it does but when spino arrives and fish ai come as well, sucho will be pretty damn semi aquatic
and also, deino
they are all water boys
imo deino should be unable to drown from lack of stam in water
crocodiles don't really actively swim
well they do but not like, to not drown
but how will deino drink
they just sit on the bottom and come up for air or float if they don't feel like swimming
will we just press E when we're submerged and deino opens its mouth and drinks that way
would make sense
crocodiles literally CAN'T drink by dipping their snout in the water
another fun one would be needing to surface to eat
muh accuracy flavor
wasn't spino even more aquatic than sucho ?
I think so
idk about in this game though, isle spino barely resembles the actual animal so
like in the scale of aquatic dinos autro would be the most terrestrial, followed by sucho, then spino and finally deino
maybe, but the concept art does hint at a more aquatic creature than sucho, with a powerful flatened tail and webbed feet
@true void i absolutely would LOVE that
it would maybe courage people to herd more
Worth mentioning spitting an anticoagulant wouldn't do anything
@river talon They probably are. Along with fish my guy
Aweasome
If they dont its gonna be hella not fun underwater when you swim
Yea maybe add some rocks and underwater caves too maybe, but just small caves not super caves far under the earth
Thats not how anti coagulants...work..
@formal vine
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basically this
Exactly
^^
Lol facts not unless your a spitting cobra and if im correct a dilo is not
Anticouagulant basically dilutes blood and you cant dilute something you arent in Direct Contact with
^
Killing something by spraying anti coagulants on it is like trying to kill a dog with chocolate milk in a spray bottle
Also I still don't get why suggesting a hypo taco that can dig trenches you can fall in was worthy of it being removed and a strike. Not like that's any dumber/wilder than the current strains of "hypo spino with trample damage and split jaws so it can swallow giant animals whole" or "psychic eyeless spinosaurus that controls the weather and only eats liquids".
How is that worth a strike.
idk
If your talking about the game i dont see the problem lol
Thats all I can figure anyway, was silently removed from the server and that post was the only thing deleted
"Hyper Taco" is an overused joke, if you were being genuinely serious I'd take it up with a moderator or Punch and try to explain yourself.
I guess, but so is "buff giga" and I don't see people getting strikes for suggesting that as long as they actually pitch an idea for it.
Not even the mild diarrhea guy was removed lol
i wonder who was that
I do however enjoy the implication the mods think hypo taco is a more outlandish and rulebreaking suggestion than someone literally saying you should be able to track a giga by the scent of its diarrhea lmao
Honestly hypo taco could easily be a legit suggestion. I don't see how it is strike worthy.
I forget what I even said, something about it being a burrower that like dug out hidden pitfall traps dinosaurs could fall into and break legs/take a bunch of damage, or something.
Honestly hypo taco and burrowing seems perfectly reasonable. Not gonna happen but it's not exactly a troll suggestion.
If it's well justified it really isn't a troll suggestion.
hypo taco might be an overused joke sure, but the suggestion itslef was no different for other hypo ideas that have been tossed out, and it certainly isn't the most balls to the wall insane.
its not confirmed to be its name
@tender latch hope is not the name of the map, it's just what the community has been calling it.
Nice
@night mountain It doesn't have to be a hypo taco as well, it could be a whole new dino or strain that supports this idea of making traps. Maybe these traps could be covered by foliage just so unsuspecting dinos fall in? Also, insert dark souls 3 falling death scream
yep it was a serious and good suggestion
@valid zephyr
If pachys were made half decent then the limit would be fine
but currently they're just high pressure blood bags waiting to explode when hit by a pin
Yee. That's why they aren't included
But it shouldn't be like that, its ridiculous. They should at least give it better bleed heal considering it takes more than maia to grow (2hrs)
@barren zephyr A comfort system similar to Beasts of Bermuda / the affinity system(whatever it really is) would be perfect for that kind of thing.
*If the deino swims for too long with no breaks, it gets uncomfortable and grows/regens stam/etc slower.
- If the deino doesn’t spend enough time on shore sunbathing on clear days, it becomes uncomfortable and grows/regens stam/etc slower.
- Maybe water temperature could be a thing we’d have to deal with/manage as a deino. Like a cold glacial spring would be a bad place for a deino to go. Or diving too deep in the ocean where the temp drops would be a bad spot too. They’d be more inclined to stay within X feet of the surface where the water is warmer. At least spend most of their time there with quick jaunts into the colder areas.
As long as it dosen't actually kill you like what bob does.
tfw you die because its raining
It's unrealistic to choose to stop growing
crocs keep growing until they can't sustain themselves
wich is kinda the point of the game, u live until you die
yeah but its a bad choice
if they make it so depending on your current size, youll use more food and whatnot, then i dont see a problem in allowing you to stop growing
it's more than likely not gonna be as easy as just growing to hyper size. A lot of people probably aren't going to make it there
@barren zephyr you just described the affinity system
Which is gone be great if it's done right
Hopefully. We don't actually know much of anything about it
@fathom harness Or you could just make a deino and suicide/get eaten when you think it's getting too big for your taste.
yeah but having to reset just because you don't wanna turn into a hyper sized starving machine kinda stinks
@barren zephyr Very true. Just putting the idea out there.
It's probably something more for a mod to do once mod support is implemented.
I really dont see the problem people have with someone wanting to stay at a smaller size. Like, why should i have to kill myself and regrow every time i get too big when I could just choose to grow to be the larger deino. This isnt real life, these arent real life alligators, let people choose not to be huge
Instead of throwing a fuss when people dont want to be fuckin huge and starving as a 2.0 deino when they could just as easily make that optional and let people stay at 1.0
^
Because it's intrinsic to playing the dino itself. It's like asking to play a utah that physically can't jump.
@fathom harness What about Kaprosuchus? That could play similarly to Deino, plus have some terrestial gameplay.
I wouldn't shoot down a suggestion to implement a smaller croc boi, but deino's infinigrow is just how it do
@fleet surge the point of it is to bleed out big things at night, why would you nerf it so much
it literally has the 2nd lowest base biteforce in survival
#NeverNerfDilos
@grave karma Its jaw designs would mean it scavenged or ate small prey, lizards, fish, rodents biting a rex would have broken the jaw.
yes, but the devs are more concerned with balance rather than realism
ok, but in this video game, it's a nocturnal bleeder.
it'd suck major ass to only be able to bite juvies
Kapro is not a bad idea
yeah, but it wouldn't be able to share the deino animations
Compsognathus would be great as AI, along with the current velociraptor AI, they would make a great "Clean up crew"
but as a playable animal, not so much, i'd rather see playable herrerasaurus or austroraptor, besides, ptera is going to be the smallest playable animal in survival iirc.
wasnt hererra gonna climb trees at one point?
No that's just what people have come up with for an ability
yeah, a community member (honestly can't remember who) came up with a tree climbing concept for herrerasaurus, i seem to remember it being shared in the announcements channel at some point, but i can't seem to find it now.
Honestly herra is a really fun scavenger as is. I'd personally keep it the same, buff its stupid glass ankles, and if it needs a special ability maybe like make it able to smell further than other things
idk what tree climbing would do for it since you can just run away from anything
It would allow for a escape route and it will make the dino very hard to catch if trying to hunt it
Its fast already lol
I guess but it's already SO fast, it can straight up run away from literally anything no prob
idk im cool with whatever as long as they don't mess with its speed, thats what makes herra fun
i can't find the post, but eh, iirc the idea was, herrera could climb trees to get away from danger.
there was also something similar to the ambush mechanic, you would jump from a certain point in the tree and get a speed boost when you hit the ground, a bit faster than the normal ambush iirc.
kapro isnt a bad idea until you realise how small it is
Could just make it bigger than normal. Some of the in game species are already like that
The thing is, when devs throw dinos in sandbox, it just seems like they are not going to continue to work on them
then why not just have a land croc like raui or whatever its name is
I mean, fair.
Kapro is more iconic and cooler lookin though
I say use the best crocodilian tho
There goes my dog
@pale prairie Oh no doubt, but on servers like Isla Nycta it could be injected and personally I'd love to be a compy. We can be Velo now, but it just... I dunno.
Compy would be worse most likely
the only way to make compy not absolute trash would be to have like
your "character" work as like 30 spawned ones as a school
But compys are more adorable
I ✅'d the suggestion just cos i wanna be a cute lil bby compy, too :3
don't even care how weak it is lol
If you want a mechanic for them, maybe buff their bleed/damage by 10% for each other compy in the pack/group , to enhance their swarmy nature 🙃
Sucho is meant to be a water hunter, not a land hunter. It's meant to feed on fish and dinosaurs coming close to the water, not chase down people.
I mean not give it breakneck speed but a small speed buff
sucho is not a deinosuchus @golden shoal its supposed to be able to sustain itself on fish from rivers not ambush from lakes it but that means it shouldn't be capable of moving on land
Sucho being faster then it is would make it a land hunter, which is not what it was designed for. It has a role, and it's role doesn't require more speed. It is supposed to hang near lakes, rivers and ambush creatures near it. Not chase long distances for prey.
It already out weights most dinosaurs of its class and that weight gives it a good bite with bleed. Now you want to give it more speed? If you want to play a fast predator with decent bite play an allo. It fits its role well.
Sucho being faster would also mean It Will be both faster and stronger than diablo rendering diablo useless at sucho's sight
sucho is not going to destroy diablo as how combat itself is getting changed before the devs take any suggestion ideas
sucho is legit going to be toned down to allos lvl while diablo is getting accidentally buffed with locational and collision. that is if it takes less dmg with its frill
sucho shouldn't be faster but should have a better trot or something to not be completely unviable on land
Better trot definitely
@pulsar lake whut is "theets"
I honestly love the smaller crocodilian idea. Literally all you'd need to do is make a deino that stops growing somewhere in the juvi stage and is maybe a little faster than deino so you aren't just food
wouldn't even need a new model tbh, most modern crocs look near identical anyway
Nah, it'd look kinda stupid if they just reused the model. These wouldnt be modern crocs, theyve got differences. Kaprosuchus, if they did it, has to actually look like itself. Bit of a facial and bodily difference there
they could just add itty bitty borealosuchus he looks similar enough so he could uses modified deino model but is baby
for the people who want to be and stay a small croc, the size diff is massive
I mean im down for kapro too but just a small maybe recolored deino would fit
a lot of prehistoric crocs were samey too
^^^ Exactly.
kapro would be fun and adorable, if they want to make the model for it it'd be ❤
It'd be neat to have something smaller and faster, not stuck in water
Maybe it'd still be water based with more of an ability to go between water sources
No.
i mean it's in the database isnt it
meh @ water, i just want my cute lil lizard chicken
totes not D:
Still a little chicken thing
compy is even more pathetic than velo
why not both
Idk i think the thin little mouth is kinda cute
pretty sure compy is in the database somewhere like if somebody wants to suffer at the bottom of the food chain why not let them
same with tacos, taco for survival ples
imagine how awful trying to hit a compy would be as a carno or something lol
OTOH, bby compy probably literally couldn't penetrate a carno's skin lol
baby compy would be like oros when theyre injected at 0.01 growth
Compy could work tbh
A scavenger just following other carnis eating scraps
Its basically like Herrera and austro
But a compy would be way more adorable than herrera :3
There isn't really much to scavenging atm
Theres no rotting meat
Diseases
Etc
The only thing Herrera has over austro atm is stats
yet
But if they add resistances and all those stuff
There could be possible paths for scavengers and some having different benefits
compy could also hide easy af
It wouldn't even be worth killing
herrera is already made with its own sounds and animations, just needs a juvie stage, and it could be grown fast like dryo
just run over it, iirc everything is getting trample damage
It would literally hide effortlessly
compy killing would be as useless to do as hatchlign killing, well even more useless since you arent even doing it to eliminate future threats
the ai velos might go after the compys tho
loadssss of people kos to not be crazy bored
i'd think compy would starve easy though, likely too slow to properly trail most carnis
Tent
unless it was really fast i guess
Do you know how small a compy is
if they made the fireflies and dragonflies/butterflies edible tho
Its smaller then velo
compy would strictly be a scavenger, maybe kill the odd utah juvie here and there, would get bodied by all the other juvies
to things like compy and maybe utah juvie and galli
Compy would basically rely on bugs and scavenging
ooh edible bugs WOULD be good
some people would be content with that honestly
juvie herra would probably be the size of adult compy...?
Yep
maybe?
I'd see compy being popular
and its in the database already
Its basically austro
im not against compy btw
lots wont even kill austros because people love the giggle chickens
Scavenging is a different game style in itself
compy would probably be in the same spot
Compy would hide so easy anyway
lol when ai fights back, inb4 oros and tacos killing compies they see
herra hides easy
herras tail curl helps hiding SO much
LOL
YEET
austro slightly less easy because of its tail but still pretty well
they needed dinos to justify the dinobots later
because the people who made transformers realized how amazing taco is
Agree with trikes runnin' mixed herds. Disagree with some arbitrary number of hours in one spot - I'd rather there be a mechanical incentive to keep herds on the move (like plants taking longer to spawn if the same dinosaur eats from the area repeatedly, or AI oviraptors spawning with increased frequency to steal eggs and destroy nests, etc)
@north vector for one trike were not the glue, they were the ones that made no carnivore want to take a herd in the first place. trike with a herd of maias and diablos would travel the map and seek out any carnivore they found. most of the time they would go after rexes only. trikes would do majority of the attacking and the other herbs would keep the rex standing.
Problem is there arent any herds any more
They existed in abundance when trikes were around
Now theres hardly any
Not once did i ever see a herd go out on rex hunts
They always came straight to the herd and attacked on their own decision
Server I play on you can mix pack in herd
I'd imagine herb life is alot more boring in official
Fun thing is being in a huge herd with multiple species looking out for each other and nesting
Also good to see herds because herbs arent that popular usually
well i have couch ive seen big groups of herbivores go after any carnivore they see when the carnivore just walking by
diablo can kill allos, maias can kill anything shy of a carno, paras in big groups can easily fend off anyhthing smaller then a sucho
officials have no rules against kos
only by apex
if they have diablos might as well not even try
Could take on anything besides trike
diablos can easily kill allos
Diablo is like the only one that poses much threat
All it takes 1 ape
Apex
To massacre herds
Let alone 2 or 3
not mention maias are literal tanks
Maias suck lol
not against gigas and rexes lmao
without trikes, there are literally no big herds rn
but a 5 man trike group easily kill a 3 man giga and rex group
it was always an issue of apexes finding the herd, theyd attack, die, then complain
You're literally apex food if you aren't a trike herd
stupidest thing ever
so it wrong when an apex carni complains but not a herbi herd
Loool
thats why i proposed a system to force herds to move around
Apexes are ballsy and have tendencies to not own up to the fact they’re extremely retarded.
people hated them being a fortress
thats the affinity system
🙃
not to mention apexes almost always have control of the fight, considering they decide if it occurs in the first place
Herbis would be more fun if most of them actually had genuine fun aspects to them lel
Rare*
I’m a herbi main
Galli and Dryo being my favorites.
I enjoy herb on server I play on because we can have 5 apexes and unlimited tier 3 and lower
Galli is fun because some people actually think they can catch you without ambush.
As gross and ew as this is gonna sound I prefer herbs on more realism servers.
Well, semi-realism.
I play on semi/casual server
Just feels cooler to me lel
The herd cant attack without being provoked
But it's fair because we are allowed 5 apexes
Yea
I used to play on hardcore realism servers
i have no trouble with herbis grouping up and having some fun but when they actively go out and cause trouble for an entire server then i have troubles. if you have troubles complain to the people that caused the trouble in the first place
i dont like "no kosing" rules,,,
I love it
I can agree with that Doc
Kosing gets boring
^
I let off some steam on sandbox dm
Plus it’s just annoying on sandbox.
If ya wanna get off some anger then go into a dm
never once did a herd of 20 members cause trouble for a whole server. Youre completely blowing it out of proportion
And dm gets boring
It’s what i do lel.
After 10 mins
True
really? Couch because i can name several account they did
they also seeked out herbis that even opposed their ideals
Dictator herbs lol
i guess i need to remind you that there are no rules against that behavior, dictator herbs was a false rumor probably begun by the dumb apexes that died trying to fight 5 trikes
I feel like you losse touch with killing and hunting
If you play on kos servers
Which is why I prefer semi realisim
Hunt for food
Not kill for fun
Fights can be fun some times anyway when both parties agree
i played herbis when the new rules were in and i think it better. herbis have more player interaction and have to actively be prepared for anything not sit around with their trike buddies and say hey look a giga/rex
are you kidding?
nope
i just saw a big pack of dibbles today
Herbis have LESS interaction and ever more of a reason to go carnivore because solo herb isnt viable
unless its galli or dryo
idk what your talking about i see plenty of solo herbis
Tbh I only see dibble herds working properly besides trike
Picking anything other then that you're just not going to have a fun time lol
i see para mais and dryos
hardly ever
I literally was just playing herbivore
they used to be common when herds were actually functional
The only other herbivores we encountered a solo Diablo
maybe not para or pachy i blame the bleed resistance
Out of 4 hours
Sucho, Dilos, Utahs, Rexes, Allos, even a Cerato
Gigas
In groups mind you
Scattered groups
large herds dont exist anymore, they cant without trike
Large herds only exist in streamer groups/events
Tbf
Out of alllll those carnivores
those arent natural occurences though
you mean large herds can exist in staying in one place with out trikes
Which is bad in by itself Doc
theyre smoked by apexes
Imagine needing to stay in one spot to survive
XD that every player in the game. the only people who move around are streamers, other then that majority of the player base stay in their own little corners. in the last two weeks i have found more afking apexs then actual players on the map
@sick crescent what did you think of the 2nd part of the suggestion
should i delete it
not sure if im the best at problem remediation
It feels like a 2-3 herd limit when you’re playing herbi though lol
if anything i would suggest only 2 adult trikes can group up with a herd not 5
It never increases above that unless event/streamer
and then move the herd limit to 20
at lease then you can have 18 other dinosaurs
" placing a day-by-day rule " good luck policing that
they got a point that when we get to the realm of realism server and we all know what a hassle those servers are
I dont see why herds need to move that often
They have a water source
And plenty of food
i couldnt think of any other way to force a group of 20 herbivores to move location in a way that didnt feel arduous
honestly just remove the no trike mixing rule. It was a bad idea and that's all there really needs to be to it.
If none of that is gone why do they need to migrate
people had issues
i had to address it
that was a central problem when the mega herd existed
Will water sources run out?
just letting trike back into the mix doesnt fix the underlying issues that led to them being seperated
mega death herds are better than what we have now
something needs to be done but thats not separating trikes imo
making them move is a start
The issues the mega herds faced when they existed consisted of being a fortress and not moving
well the devs were the ones who decided to make the rule so in reality they must've seen something we were not able to see
yes
thats why i made the suggestion
and it wasnt something we couldnt see
it was obvious
" they must've seen something we were not able to see" lol why do people act live devs are literal gods
devs can make bad calls too
seperating trike from the other herbs was a horrendous mistake
the issues they saw could have easily been fixed
well punch watches the servers daily and checks what people do, and the admins help by seeing what people also do
Problem is people see shit devs do as gospel
Yeah like that was 100% a bad decision by the devs. Theres no shame in that or anything but at this point it really does need to be overturned, half the entire roster is basically absent
YEAH like devs are also human we all make bad calls sometimes
(like the trike rule lol)
wow im not taking at gospel im taking it in trust to the devs, over all they want everyone to enjoy the same game.
Didnt someone say it wasnt brought up balance-wise when they did it
They wont hate you for having opinions
I cant remember well but that sounds familiar
Trust doesn't factor in though
If it isnt working it isnt working
no ones saying devs are trying to secretly ruin the game
okay you want my opinion. my opinion is that herbivores did attack juvies and stalked at spawn point just to kill any juvie carni they saw
I personally dont play on officals but I've seen the suggestion happen alot
Yeah and carnis do the same thing
About trikes should be able to mix pack again
I think some other people were just salty little carnivore players who couldnt stand not losing to a herd
I dont see a difference though
Carnis do it allready
Why are herbs different
Isnt it a Kos server
And carnis wipe entire herds for fun
I know I play carno to creatively grief people as much as the rules arguably allow lmaooo
didnt do that as a herb tho
Omg carnos piss me off
i also experienced these carni hunting herbivores and and i was minding my own business and they decided to try and kill me
When they camp beach
im a certified goodboi cama usually
So herbivores kill a few juvies they get a whole part of protection taken away
Carnivores kill whole herds and they dont get anything
im not saying that
So? Server allows it. Why do carnivores have such a problem when herbivores act like them??
Do unto others as you would like done to you
im say it made many players experience with the game a living hell
carnivores do that already tho
@outer nebula there is no rule against kos for any animal so get that broken mindset out of your brain. several herd memebers didn on occasion kill NEAR spawn points due to the herd location which was later stopped by the admins
No I'm saying that's what happens. Herbivores do the same thing as carnivores, honestly not even as bad and they get the shit kicked out of them for it
lol me assbiting rexs for like an hour and destroying nests as carno is ok but if a maia does it its magically an issue
In my experience carni players play the victim card a lot and exaggerate
if i see a juvie carni im going to kill it because all it is is a future threat, its fault for not hiding
So when carnivores go around and kill fucking everything oh they can do whatever they want. Herbivores get destroyed when they kill the things that are future threats
@north vector im not saying its bad but when there are a ton of new players coming to the game daily and they see a massive trike with a massive herd behind it there is nothing they can really do
Oh well
I'm sorry for new players but do they expect everyone to be nice in a survival horror game? Huge part of the game is dying
Gets killed by a couple herbies and go around claiming death squad
okay first off very little carnivores attacked a herbi group with trikes in it
Sucks if you get killed but thats part of it
LITERALLY whats happening here
again you are blowing things out of proportion, on many occasion the herd let juvie carni run past
admins guided us on that
we were close to a SP
Only time i was actually killed by a herd, trike didnt do shit. It was a dryo
Yeah the first thing people say if someone complains about dying is suck it up buttercup
idk why carnis blow up if they get killed by something they'd also kill if they could
if they die they die, its a survival game, what do you expect?
carnis have consistently complained about herbivores until they basically dont exist
I dont see many herbivores that complain about carnivores until they get nerfed into the ground
Well it’s too hard for them if a herb doesn’t instantly drop dead for them
Its usually just asking to be on equal ground with predators in their tier
......okay now who isnt getting the point
herbs need to moan and present their ass for me to bite or im being oppressed as a carni player
im saying it was really hard to hunt a herbivore when they had a full man herd of trikes
good
no not good
its supposed to be tough
is it better now having no herbs to hunt at all?
Herds are supposed to kill bad carnivores
How about this... instead of fucking over herbivores completely, just lower the limits they can have in a herd to 3 or 4
3 or 4 trikes
4
Still a good bit of power there
thats what i suggested
Why do you need to when there’s a server chock full of carnis to hunt?
its kinda unfair when a group had basically an apex with mini apex helping it out
The iconic roar of a trike stretching across the plains: "Git gud"
then hunt something you can manage? if you cant make a kill with a full apex pack then play something else
I think the point of a herd is it being difficult to hunt
thats precisely what its supposed to be
i dont even play apex i play mid teir apex is boring
I just got the game and am triggered I haven't seen one herbi herd
Oh no now survival is too hard with trikes protecting things now you have to suffer through having ai spawned in your face
No player owes you their Dino’s life. It should be earned
Yeah no shit they got fucked over AssSyrup. No one wants something that dies to everything else
lmao asssyrul welcome to the shitshow
ugh, i just want someone to advise me on how to make a herd move location in an enjoyable manner
I tried to fight a carni with a para and I'd say shoulda ran but I slow af lol
i never said they owed me their lives the strongest thing i have ever played was an allo but those get shit on by diablos and if you had a trike might as well not even try
You cant move with a herd, sorry Couch. You'll get murdered instantly
I got the game with interest in playing herbi in herds
And yeah, the fuck is a trike gonna do to catch up to you? Run away from it it cant even regen stam while standing
galli is super fun to play tho
Yes it is fun
well i highly doubt we will get trikes back unless we have a system to make a full herd move
I wanna para herd
seriously if you want to herd go to like, nycta. they have their horrible issues but at least herbs exist
give me ideas people
Dont play officials then. Not unless theres an event
well you can, one way is to actually give them a reason to move, one they need a specific food item only cattered to that diet need
Cause no one wants to die
oh good luck on para though its trash and barely anyone plays em at all unfortunately
dont even get me STARTED on anky
I figured official would be best since I just got the game
its a literal happy meal
I am worried that affinity will just be used as a system to punish people for playing herbs if they don’t move every 2 mins
the only way we will get trikes back during the recode is through a rule change, not a new mechanic
wats affinity
Or make it so they dont get murdered instantly first instead of forcing them to move before they can even do it properly
New system, not done yet
If it tells you anything i only play officials when i want to engage in degenerate shit
the officials are a cesspool
unless you want to be like, a rex or giga pair
im not going to lie i would love to see herds again maybe with a few trikes not a full man group
Its a simple solution of lowering numbers
inject shants and let them mixherd
4 trikes from 5 already changes alot
Inject fuckin camaras and let em mixherd or something
theri and shant injections c'mon devs please
when play utah it was nice to see like maia, diablos, paras and pachies with one or two trikes
seeing 5 squads of trikes was rare anyway
5 trike squads dont even form anymore
I dont think I've ever seen a herd with 5 trikes on officials
they do on nycta 
A central issue with bringing back the big herds was that they didnt move, they turned into fortresses, unholy amounts of carnivores died, they complained, trike is gone.
thats what im dealing with rn
That was greatly exaggerated
They took the solution a bit too far
I have yet to see a video of any of it posted anywhere
there really werent any videos, you had to be here in april-may to see the full swing
probably before april too actually
There should have been some on streams in that case
so... Nobody plays herbi anymore?
Or even a screenshot
yeah and couch their were groups that did go around the map causing trouble and yes there were some really nice herbivore players that had to pay for what they did
That hill that's slightly up to the west of golf pond was a spot herbis used to herd up in giant herds
thats the true horror survival aspect of the game. Will YOUR favorite species survive getting nerfed after a flood of whining carnvores get done with em?
No not really, bud. Maybe if herbivores are able to either defend themselves or get defence from trikes, then maybe they'll start playing again
@night mountain oof
we would have like 20 peeps
Oh that yeah but they weren’t running around killing all the carnis. The carnis came to them
Nines not all herbivores have to rely on trike for defense
the point of herding is to deter ppl from attacking you
I said if they are able to defend themselves, not just "if they can be defended by a trike" im not a dipshit
Most herbivores have the ability to run away from things
Shouldnt rely on another species completely to not die
sadly thats the state rn
@dull cape like i said the herbivore couch are describing were the good ones but there were a group that did come to the server that caused all of this
trike is the most viable defensive herb
uh
para can't run away and I tried fighting a carni with one for awhile but my attacks seemed to do nothing
we are working with what we got
para is garbage
its tragic
pachy galli dryo
try playing anky its literal shit
a bunch of small herbivores can run
And the larger ones?
@steady cosmos 90% of herb players dont run, no idea why, its just the way it is
no running, no fighting, dead
I'll try anky but para is so cute I wanted to para reeeeeeeeeee
Let them die then
its kind amind boggling
Cause trike cant fight other apexes and it sure as hell cant run
Well if a pack of apexes ran around the sever killing everything not much was done about them. They were ignored.
Not on its own
trikes can easily take on apex
Point was, not all herbivores are as strong as they should be
literally just disable rex and giga from being played for 2 weeks and watch how nice everything is
para can't run or defend
Not the way they are now. They get facetanked by both trike and Rex
The ones that dont have pretty good defense
para should be scary cause of it's size
ass, the worst part is para USED to be good
Para is scary because of its size
then carnivore whining happened and they nerfd it
if something can't run it should at least have defense
that is true para is too slow, packy has horrible bleed resistance and heal, if gali get bit might at well roll over and die
I mean galli is ok
galli is way too small for some reason
It’s super agile and speedy
Galli's alright i guess. Pretty fast, good turn
Galli is perfectly fine rn
its too small
Pachy needs a pick up
stats are ok though
Before a couple updates ago it seemed like the Galli model changed
yes but get bit by a utah or dilo might as well considered free meal
They are slower then galli
The legs used to be longer I think
not a utah in ambush
The only herbivores that need anything rn are pachy, and trike imo
I wanna play good para reeeeeeeeeee
And para
Para only a bit more to be perfect
I've been told para is something you really have to get good at before you can properly fight
The old para was ideal really
Pachy should be slowed down to dilo speed and make it the tank that can wreck utahs and dilos
old para was good
im STILL pissed they took bb away from anky
you talkin about the super speedy one?
like NOTHING justifies that
Old para was good but it needed a slight nerf
the one that could basically keep up with maia?
bring back old pouncing austros
It wasn’t that fast but it was slightly faster than allo
this chat just makes me wanna play in a herbi herd more
seems if you wanna solo herbi you have to play galli
Dryo and pachy are also good alternatives to that
seriously pm me if you wanna do a herbi killsquad sometime im always down
as they are small and hard to see
Maia is pretty good solo
Dryo works too, but its a bit like a meerkat, better a social creature but works fine on its own
every other herbi I played gets instantly destroyed
Actually old para was faster then dilos
Theri is good
Dilos really aren’t that fast as far as carnis go
but of course we cant have that so people whine about it
they should put some water closer to the beach spawn, the dinos that move at a snails pace seem to almost die before you find water
You'd be right about that lurdu
yeah beach spawns are hell
but its still too fast for para
Yeah its unfortunate everyone fuckin hates beach spawns
I mean it’s still over 38.2km while allo is 34.2
the beach is where I pretty much always spawn and if your playing para or sucho its like a big fu
the beach would be SO easy to make good too
just add rivers draining into it for water and like seaweed washing up
thats all you need
Most carnis can ambush away from para though and they aren’t very quiet or agile
idk why the beach seems so specifically designed around keeping people away from it
The biggest problem for para is allo
@north vector lol that 2nd part of your suggestion doesnt sound good
I just don't wanna be dying from thirst
forcing players to move with announcements doesnt sound like a good idea
i honestly think its mostly devs had trouble coding a freshwater river flowing into saltwater lol
all the "coincidental" dams at the shoreline
If you run, it will track you down, if you fight, you will most likely die if it uses spam ambush like all allos do
seriously tho lemme just point to my argentinosaurus suggestion
I tried to fight cause para slow af and I don't think the attacks did anything
@steady cosmos why did u dislike the first part. im redoing the 2nd
They do its damage is just trash
Yeah that’s why old para was ideal. They could stand up to allos and took skill to take down.
I just dont like the idea of trikes being the "glue" of a herd
thats what they were
They were
Most herbis didnt need them
herds should be able to defend themselves
trikes are gone now, herds are extremely rare now
There just arent as many because people dont know how/when to run or defend as herbi

Ntm the amount of carnivores there are rn
which will likely change if/when they change the ai
at least the ammount of adults
a lot of the time playing herbi I just try hiding lol
Part of it’s because they’ve been systematically rooted out
And the rules put them in a vulnerable position
You know I used to hate this idea and still do, but just put a cap on how many carnivores can be in a server. Nothing else is gonna work.
me being a sneaky
wait is that rn
Also I just like the idea of trike being a douchebag type
ew kick it
no it was ahile back
oh lol
It’s a ninja noodle
I hope locational makes trike good
make a horn to the chest permanently disable an apex
I hope trike gets to fucking instakill things that run straight into its horns
me too
Same
i hope trike can keep small dinos impaled on its horns
I want this
That wouldnt be very good for hygiene
no thats the point, then your horns cause horrible infections
i want to paint my horns red with the blood of juvie rexes
Could also make you very sick
stab someone with a horn thats has a taco stuck on it for 2 weeks
