#general-feedback-discussion
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Well dont get me started on some of the animation. For example. Dilo has parkinsons. He can not EVER be still.
i mean i didn't mean having them move the same way, just the ability to pick something up and swing it around
And i agree with the tweaking of most sounds in the game as well as animations. I made suggestions accordingly on them. I never get enough upvotes though so i am always forgotten 😄
I made a lengthy suggestion
It got like 38 things
I’m
So proud
Well a rex wouldn’t be able to do that with an ankh
*anky
Way way way way to much weight
i know i was sorta kidding with that specific part
lmao give trike not only nostrils give it THIS
Giant horned dinosaurs had very special nostrils...
ultimate power
If I could have anything about the trike Redone or fixed
It would be the trot and run animations, and that ugly little neck pouch thing. It always bothered me
Makes its neck look reallyyy chonky
@mighty saffron there's this option in the controls menu that isn't really used for anything currently, maybe your suggestion fits with this. Then again it could be a key used for Humans.
Even if used for humans i see no problem for multiple assignments of the same button across different factions. At no point are you a Human and a dinosaur at the same time. 😄
And holy s ! I almost forgot that this exists
Yeah I've always wondered what that meant and seeing your suggestion made me think there could possibly be a stance change for Dinos
but who knows
Finger crossed that something like my suggestion was already planned. :3
@glossy tangle they likely wont give bone break to anky until its put into survival so I don't see a point in suggesting it now
the reason something isn't in survival is always because it isn't finished, so I'm saying it should have bone break when it's finished for sure
otherwise it'd be weak and barely played most likely
reminder that just because it may get updated to go into survival, it doesn't mean it will be playable
Okay, makes sense. Quite a few people have made suggestions to give anky bone break like, now, while it's not finished, so that's generally what I assume people mean by giving anky bone break
plus it makes sense for anky to have bone break, look at it, that club should do something to a rexes bones
also ankylosaurus was rarely attacked by a Tyrannosaurus Rex because it had such a deadly defensive weapon
even with BB, anky would be a snack for rexes
anky doesn't work without locational damage and dino collision
para sadly cant get sprint speed buff cause then it would run down allos
it can get other buff though like stam regan and trot speed
I dont think pachy needs bonebreak, personally. It just seems kinda.. useless. By the time you break the leg of whatever is attack you, you'll be bleeding too bad or die. Its a low tier, i dont think bone break is necessary.
I'll agree with most of the rest though
I can see plenty of uses for it personally, smash the leg of something that is trying to attack you and make a break for it. Can at least slow down the pursuer for a minute or two.
^
I wish we will get some sort of "overthrow?" ability , or anything that make us able to have some sort of CrowdControl
Maybe
in the case of pachy it attacks by headbutting into it's enemies, the force alone should be able to break a raptor's leg. Once the leg is broken you can use it as a chance to get away from danger
and with a bit of a bleed resistance buff and a speed nerf it could become essentially a mini dibble with brute strenght instead of bleed
Responding to @formal vine I would say I agree with some but here are the ones I disagree with:
-Change rex's one call to something more suited to the Isle and not jurassic park, and alter Utah's one call to be less jurassic park as well (Not hating on the movies, The isle needs originality in two of its most popular dinos)... I seriously think these calls suit the rex and Utahraptor
And the ones I think defintely need to be added:
-Buff para's speed
-Add flowers and other colourful vegetation to thenyaw and V3
-different variety of plants for herbivores
-Maybe have dinosaurs leave a trail of blood instead of bloodsplatters every 3 seconds?
done
changed
Thanks
The new rex call is too jurassic park in my opinion
wait what does the old one sound like? I wasn't playing back then
The old one sound way better
The old one blew your earholes out of ur head
And it was better
specially since the new 1 and 3 call seem to come from a completelly different dinosaur
Rex call now seems like a cough compared to old one
It's not bad but It's way too short for me
The Isle tryna' cash in on popular movies is understandable, but PLEASE have some originality in dinosaurs
Yikes
I think the original sound came from a pig scream slowed down with some big cat sounds
That's not true at all lol
jfc
Yikes indeed
So new one or old one guys?
@marble ether what is ? the origin of the sound?
suure
I think we could get a new one that lasts a lot longer and is a lot louder and scarier that way rex will sound a lot scarier too
It's a completely new environment
Only thing similar is there are dinos
Which is the main point of the game lol
The utah is literally the JP raptor with correct wrists
Yep
same head shape, same proportions, same calls...
Zorr said it
come on
Yeah
let's not kid ourselves
So because 2 dinos have similarities to a movie, the entire game is a ripoff?
All of the people try to make the indoraptor by making raptors all black and yellow lol
No
The point is the isle has to be original in two of its most popular dinos
Which are the highlight of the game
Utah is not popular at all
I prefer the term homage
And the main gamemode
yeah that's so true Adikavita "All of the people try to make the indoraptor by making raptors all black and yellow lol"
Utahraptor not popular?
Utah is hated rn lol
Are you kidding yourself?
but the calls are quite cool
Everyone shitting on it for being an afk machine
Viper it's not hated
and you know the moment they add blue to the detail colour, you know EXACTLY what skin they will make
Just because they removed raptor rock doesn't mean I don't see utah packs of 10 at twins and great lake
oh
Blue the raptor confirmed
ye lol
it's hated because utahs are not doing what they should, which is run around and explore
Yeah
not stay in one spot and camp all day
^^^
Well yeah so It's not popular
Well yet so, rex is the most popular
And it has no originality
Except the design
To me the broadcast sounds like JP
Fight me if you will thats what I hear
it is the JP sound barely changed as to avoid copyright I suposse
The old call was guttaral and iconic to the game
Yeah but they changed it cuz most people hated it
did they?
And it didnt give rex an identity
it seems that having a bad call that is original is better than having a good call that is based on something else
They should bring back the old one
@lilac swallow well...kinda? I mean the other one at least was made from the ground up
I do prefer a good call regardless of its origin
An idea is not good ig 50% like it and 50% hate it
And why they gotta make rex the strongest?
Cuz It's iconic
A trike should be able to kill a rex
also this calls belonged to the magna rex
Thats the point
And they can
If the Rex didnt but ride the trike after getting bb doesnt count
honeslty the rex being the strongest is not really a problem for me, but trike needs a bit of a buff to keep up with the other apexes
I aint gonna go down this dumb discussion again lol
Wasted too many time on this topic already
My suggestion on thid matter is clear, reduce the pack limits and the problem fixes itself
5*
1 or 2
Is enough
As a max
Pack size resize
To this day I don't know why pack sizes are allowed to be this big. I mean, why would anyone ever need 5 rexes or 12 allos in 1 pack? It's not practical and just plain dumb. Suggestion for pack size resizes, carnivore only.
Rex: 1-2
Giga: 2-3
Sucho: 3-4
Allo: 3-4
Carno: 4-5
Cerato: 4-5
Dilo: 6
Utah: 6
^
if locational damage and body colission become a thing, trike will have a better chance
Trike will get very beneficied for that
no longer a rex will be able to facetank a trike, as it shouldn't
yep
Realistically didn’t Rex not even hunt Trike that often too?
Just because of the dangers n shit?
^
it did hunt it, but usually smaller ones
Well yea
many adults survived their encounters with rexes
True
it is in their skulls, marks of teeth
I still think this game should make you be afraid of losing a dino, this way people kamikaze less frquently resulting in succes sometimes
I agree with the fact that Trike should be a bit more fears from most peeps pf
feared*
true that
ye
bad combat mechanics
rex is strong
and carnivore/herbivore ratio
yep
That’s fair
I mean if there was 2 for Rex
that means they'll spread out more
but if there is 5 camping a lake...
both are bad
Yeahhhh
neither is better
the carnivore and herbivore ratio will always be a problem i'm afraid
people just like carnivores in general
tbh we need to encourage people to play herbies
Youre not wrong
and this is coming from a herbie main
I personally prefer playing herb but i’m not sure if that’s just me anymore tbh
Oh ayyy
When ai stops being that stupid carnis would require skill to grow reducing its population
Exactly
that's to easy
Yup
i miss the days when as a carno juvie I had to search everywhere for any type of food
Ai should be like pseudo players that try to survive
lol
Not a autogenerated food suply
and avas running in circles
Even as a carni i would prefer having to search and actively hunt even if its just an ai
the main reason I main herbivore it's because it's the challenging thing now
Same
Plus, I find it entertaining when people try to attack me but end up failing because SHOCKINGLY a utah isn’t the best thing to 1v1 a dibble with.
grew a giga once, the most disgustingly boring growth I've had
People got some balls.
I dont mind games being easy, but one thing is easy and another thing is literally delivering you food in a survival game
You aren’t wrong.
Oh god
Among herbivores diablo is one of my favourites, just love seeing an allo runing in fear as it bit me and z turned around in a second
HONESTLY YEAH
dibble tbh is one of the ebst herbs
I remember a suggestion that dibble shouldnt one shot utah
Was hilarous
and what it should be
who said that?!
I also like Galli since people are fuckin stupid and try to think they can get you?
Idk was long ago
Like ok rex try to chase me without stalking or even trying to ambush alright chief.
Yup.
people who complain about their dilo dying to a herd of maias should not exist
oh yeah galli is incredible, just seeing a carno trying to figure out how you just dodged him at the last second
Like, I don’t see you getting ganged up on by 5 rexes all at once piling on you as a maia.
Honestly yeah
Galli is extremely entertaining to play since it’s so easy to fuck with people.
No, Sinful
this is legit a comment I read a while ago
Dondi please buff rex it gets outplayed by everything
wut
no shit you can outrun a rex, it's not supossed to give long chases
It’s an ambush pred mainly, atleast in the game. It focuses on strength more than speed.
Like maybe if you had some skill, you would actually be able to kill shit.
Gallis are easy as hell to kill if you ambush them right.
hell a utah is that and it takes a fraction of a t rex growth fase to fully grow
You’re not wrong
Honestly if you’re good at Utah, you can kill anything.
I’ve seen Utah’s kill rexes and even spinos. It is extremely sad.
true that's what makes them a bit too dangerous in my opinion, specially if they get the pounce back
Wait, with alt turn?
Ah, thats easy
Exactly
Nope
oh yeah rex even with alt turn is fucked if it encounters a pack of well organized utahs
yup
I’ve seen 3 utah’s take out a trike.
Of course that trike was stupid, but come on.
You’re a trike.
It’s just sad at that point.
Without alt turn i can kill anything with my utah just need to be patient
a giga with alt turn though...
what a monster
it's a good thing they are a pain to grow as of now
Giga's alt turn is indeed overtuned just like almost any giga stat
^preach
honestly animations for alt turn can't come soon enough, it's a bit ridiculous right now. Seeing a giga twirling like a ballerina
But wait! giga cant kill rex so giga is shit. Seriously hate when people base giga viability on killing Rex or not
God
yeah not like it can kill anything from a trike to any other mid to low tier...
just don't mess with rexes
what is so difficult to understand
And not like It can avoid rex too
but it's base speed is too slow DAWNDI, not like I can trot away
And have twice the stam
let's be fair, most of this assumptions are based on close encounters in deathmatch servers
i'm convinced
Me too
deathmatch ain't survival
Or by people who doesnt know what being aware of your surroindings is
that too, rex outside it's small window of oportunity it's fucked in most cases
the only reason most rexes are alive is because of distracted players and ai
Survival is an entire different story
Mainly because people actually listen and pay attention to what’s around them lmao
And actually use strategy
Rex has the least distance in ambush and the shortest stamina and is huge making It hard to sneak, if a rex ambush you he legit deserve the kill
True
hell the subadult it's actually more viable
Yeah
"but Rex is so fast and can kill giga, giga is unviable"
eating ai all day
i'll agree that perhaps it's juvie and sub forms require a bit of fine tuning
but the adult should get a couple of nerfs if anything
I honestly would love all juvies and subs being like rex's and by like rex's i mean actually viable and not just a downscaled adult
juvi carno is good
@grand brook I disageee
As a sub adult rex I killed at least 7 raptors....with a broken leg
Sorry chiming in from earlier said conversation
And can rex truly kill giga 100% of the time? I think not.
As a juvie cera my record is 4 baby allos at once
^ praises
Cera is prob the best juvie atm
Lol
i was refering the subadult giga
the sub rex is fine
it's vulnerable but viable
i've killed sub rexes with carnos
@unique lichen whenever I'm a rex I get destroyed by Gigas 24/7 but I truly suck at Rex and have no idea how to fight it it
But as adult ^
@lilac swallow the dilo, utah and carno juvies are quite viable
same for the galli and dryo juvies
Didnt say all juvies were unviable, if i said i didnt want to
yeah, honeslty some juvies should get some love, like the ceratopsian juvies. They are defenceless littles potatoes
ceratopsian juvies should be able to run faster, they are probably between the size of baby and adult rhinos or hippos, and they are pretty fast despite their stubby legs
Whats the point of being an strong juvie if you arent strong nor fast enought to survive any adult encounter not to say they are the hardest at hiding between the juvies(talking about ceratopsian juvies)
Yeah i really hate the trend of making juvis straight terrible versions of the adults. Not saying buff them to hell or anything but they should ideally have SOME sort of interesting gameplay that isn't just running around trying to find adults before you get unlucky and seen, or hiding in a bush
Honestly It sucks the "wait until you can actually play" this game is right now
yeah it's not great
but it will hopefully change with affinity and improvements to juvies in general
And unique animations for juvies like rex has
im honestly so torn between like
wanting new species but also wanting work on juvis
the struggle
I simply dont play this game due to the shit grow cycles and lack of a rewarding adult in many cases
they can work on both simultaneously (do you write it like that?)
yeah the game has no gameplay depth right now
@unique lichen As sweet as that was, its not a suggestion for the game. :(
also that skull faced rex looks like a juggalo
same goes for the young adults in most species, because of their smaller size their walking and running animations go slower, so you have situations like the carno in which a grown juvie is faster than the young adult
would be cool if stats were progressing smoothly (idk how to explain), so for example a fresh adult rex would still be weaker than the full adult, but would have stam and speed close to the subadult to make it a bit more viable. As it grows, it gets stronger, but also loses it's stam.
doesnt that happen with a few carnivores
like their bite forces goes DOWN when they grow to fresh adult
or am i misremembering
@fast tulip it would help if you actually explained what that new playstyle would be, idk if the devs know what you mean
^ Was JUST about to say.
If you want to suggest any creature, you kind of need to elaborate on your reasoning.
I can explain it for em
its fun because its small and inoffensive and scavenges better than anything else
nothin is better at tailing an apex and mooching off kills
so fast it's the best bet for it by far
imo the only change it really needs for survival is more resistant to a leg break, idk why its not in tbh
@night mountain the reason herra isn't in survival is because it isn't finished
@kindred reef that has been suggested so much
but I do completely agree
it is way too short for sure
like you can't do big hunts very well because if it takes too long it'll become night and that'd mean you'd have to give up the hunt
and then your prey can escape
you can change that in the code line of the game, so an uptate ins't required at all
ye
yeah and it could even become a server thing
so the server owner chooses
I'd probably have in total days and nights both individually lasting a minimum of 30mins up to an hour
whats even missing from herrera anyway
is it the babbies just being little adults
it's growth stages most likely
oh makes sense I guess
but you can always ask a dev
Was gonna say i play herra a lot and couldn't think of much aside from its stupid legs that are made of glass
you use the jump at all or run down any hill or hit a rock and you're probably breaking your legs lmao
that especially bugs me because Im p sure fixing that is just like, a matter of changing a couple numbers
it should be a lot more capaple
bary has the same issue to a slightly lesser extent
wasnt austro way way too big to glide
With those tiny wings?
Austro is utah sized just thinner
idk why devs dont fix those issues asap that are super easy fixes though. Like if something takes like 2 seconds like im assuming giving something a little more durable of a leg does I don't see any reason to not just slap it on there
i guess maybe unless theyre gonna overhaul herra soon, idk
I mean... I'm no paleontologist I just look at it from a gamer perspective so I guess
Meh they aren't in survival
The Code is a mess and the smaller stat change does cost time due to that
smol wings
Did you think they were like small dogs?
I mean, Austro still has potential.
and was like "It has feathers it has wings it should be able to at least glide" XD
I really hope it's added to survival
It would make for an excellent small tier fisher, being able to dive.
yeah
I can't wait for fish to be added
it'll make fishers a lot more fun and realistic
I remember when Sucho was first added and everyone got hyped believing fish would be added soon XD
So when we finally get em it will be great
yeah im hyped for fish
everything aquatic aside from maybe spino is near crippled without em
Is there anyway of improving scent/smelling?
Like smelling water is fine but is there a way to be able to smell if there's other dinos nearby
not really
Poo
Yeah Herreras are good at ambushing small dinos too - a ninja-like playstyle if you will
No, im just saying fish existing at all makes them all instantly way more viable
Makes them viable to begin with*
They are useless on land, their juveniles probably worse.
Small food in your natural environment is essentially fish.
Juvi Sucho literally swims faster then it can run
@wiru 1 you dont fight a rex you run, 2 bb is getting reworked
if a sucho gets seen by an adult rex and its not near a lake or the ocean its very dead
since its trot is shitty
and its run speed is bad
full adult sucho
Trike cant really run either theyre slow as shit
Rex has 30 sec of stam just run away on sight
And sucho has very high by the time It runs out the Rex has Lost your
You*
Boii if you can’t run away a rex when you have 2 minutes and 50 seconds more stam then you have to be next level garbage
if that rex is dedicated it can just follow you
Rex trot is shit, by the time It catcht you you have full stam again
Dude. The sucho can sit down and have max stam again before the rex has trotted you down
Rex tror is ass
ava is a melon 
pretty much
if you can't outrun a rex you have problems
most of the time the people who get killed by them either overcompensate or try to pick fights
@golden shoal As much as I would love to have Ava, it does actually need a reason.
Specifically, a niche and some kind of mechanical gimick.
Why does it need to have a niche ?
It fills the honk honk niche
Isn't that what most people look for?
Like, I personally don't give a shit about niches
I mean, if it doesnt do anything besides look cool and sound cute and cant do anything besides die because its super small, it's kinda useless
I mean, for a suggestion maybe, but I don't think niche should be a main defining factor of an animal.
If someone can find something good for Ava to do, why not.
You don't even need to give it a juvenile.
I mean avas can already nest at least
I personally gave Ava the "niche" of a Warthog, then I worked that into him doing stuff like digging lil hidey hole burrows, digging for food and mud bathing.
Thatd be good
I like that idea
Basically, I try use niches as an idea base.
Sorta like how I made Bary a Jaguar.
I personally don't agree with constantly comparing the playables to real life niches, because the Isle's ecosystem is utterly implausible so comparing it to a real-life ecoystem seems kind of pointless.
A lot of people compare cerato to hyena, honey badger, or Leopard
Which , of these fits best do you thinkv
?
Uh
I personally think, Hyena.
But that's sorta because of the Allosaurus=Lion comparison.
honestly that is a good niche for ava, specially if herrera becomes a surival dino it could be it's herbivore counter and the smallest armoured dinosaur
@zenith vale I believe specialized diets are already planned for herbivores
having something that can invalidate you is bloody awful
That's cool. I hope they add it soon after the recode
it'll probably be a bit, but I can't imagine it'll take horribly long
We haven't seen anything specifically about the specialized diets, and with the recode being such a large task and other things seeming to be higher priorities, I don't think it'll be before August
@lavish hornet I see no reason for hybrid dinosaurs from another franchise to be brought into a survival horror game that already has mutated, terrifying dinosaurs coming. It just doesn't make much sense when there's things much scarier than a hybrid that never existed in the first place. All the strain dinosaurs existed but were made more powerful in certain areas
@ashen wasp Vulgis?
That means "common" i believe, dunno why it'd be there though
vulgus means crowd/people
regardless, still doesnt make sense
plural ablative is "by/with/from" a crowd of people (vulgis)
it means absolutely no sense
it was brought up in a conversation about magnaraptor's full name meaning. vulgis was determined to mean common, i guess
in latin? because i don't see how 
means something along those lines
Yeah! Apparently Magnaraptor vulgis's concept is a JP-esque raptor with a little Komodo dragon and pit viper thrown in for spice. I think the suggestion mighta been referring to more obviously hybrid-y.... hybrids, though. I don't know of any other hybrid creatures planned (unless you count Tribals, I guess)
i dont think that's quite right
i dont remember hearing anything about komodo dragon or pit vier
hm. I suppose I'll have to double-check, then. Little fuzzy on vulgis
Thought I remembered hearing that the pits in front of Magnaraptor's eyes were sensory, like heat pits
I don't know where you're gettin that stuff, but I'd like to take a look. I haven't heard anything about magnaraptor besides it being able to open doors or something
Ah! I heard that Hyper Utah was the one to open doors, but couldnt find that clip
but the thermal sensing.
unsure if i can post the link here, but RJ confirmed that it has heat pits and a forked tongue on the last page of the deviantart comment section for the magnaraptor's official art piece
I guess he also specifies it's a "monitor tongue, too"
Idk, i don't especially want hybrids but it's all up to the devs, not like hybrids are any weirder than a psychic liquivore spinosaurus that is also telepathic and controls the weather
hybrids just don't make sense, cause the isle doesn't seem to involve genetic splicing or whatever the term is, it's experimentation to mutate creatures into somewhat perfect predators
No reason part of trying to make a perfect predator couldn't be splicing stuff together. I don't feel strongly about hybrids either way though and even then wouldn't personally want to see them being a thing until like at the very least the recode and the new species and the hypos and a bunch of other stuff are done anyway.
hybrids like what the whole jurassic world thing does feels like a bit too much. stuff like stegoceratops has no reason to be included, nor paradeinonychus
Oh yeah agreed on especially not having the JP hybrids, way too much jp stuff in the game already imo
what's in the game already that's jurassic park?
We already have strains which are solely original. Hybrids wouldn’t be.
Basically everything about utah, calling things assets, a ton about the setting, the aviary, and a huge list of other things
It's not a big deal imo, though i'd like a normal alt for utah
alt?
alternative skin, just one that looks like the actual animal
i dunno what you mean by looking like the actual animal, but it's getting a new skin
I mean not being a straight up jurassic park raptor. Actual utah looked basically nothing like that at all, which is especially weird since austroraptor and most of the other species are decently accurate looking
utah and velo are def the odd ones out
utah's not keeping it's name, I dont think. I believe it'll be changed
so it wont be utah for much longer, though when that'll come, I dont know
at least they kept it's wrists right though haha
Rex is also similar to JP rex
Ava please. Dryo doesn't need to be the only smol
agreed
honestly eventually i hope all ai can breed, just so we can have the rogue nesting populations ava and the other sandbox species have
I play Nycta, and we can be Ava there and nest. Baby Ava are super small.
ava and herrera would be a nice low-tier pair to add
A MISSED GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A G-O-D-Z-I-L-L-A EVENT
so where's the godzilla in-game model?
we're talking about a ~120 meter creature here but I'll take it
yeah i saw that
godzillas turning radius is trash, hypo rex could assride him to death easy
Sad, you will be GLAD to hear that cerato is, in fact, still in the game 
Seriously some people seems to suggest without having the game downloaded in their pc
Right??
really?
No It wasnt
maybe he playing on a server where they disabled it for whatever reason
Or maybe he just didnt seerato it on the list 
I guess it could be interpreted as them wanting to see Cerato buffed with "game" then meaning the competition
but then they should make that more clear 
I was thinking that, but plain "buff X, nerf X" suggestions are also invalid without explanation
Cera does need some bleed res help lol
hey guys guys
check out feedback
guys this is serious we need more ai
because there's too little
and so far away from you, and most importantly very silent
Love when people doesnt know the diference between feedback and suggestions, and even if stupid that was a suggestion
But ur talking in suggestion discussion rn and this is a general topic
so #401464048610312195 😉
thats not exactly the same type of call im suggesting
make yourself clear by moving in a certain direction and doing the f call, most people will get it
most dont get it
its just the chat call.
other players would think you were typing
I've never seen f used in a "follow me" way
Most I've used it besides talking in chat is to get someone's attention
if you are moving at the same time you are doing it it's clear you are not typing
improvise, adapt, overcome
ugh but a call made for leading other herbivores would be more accurate/clear and nice
so would mating calls, less agressive calls to indicate you are displeased but not angry...etc
in fact those would be more necessary than a follow me
I thought i remembered hearing about certain calls playing whenever you typed certain phrases in to chat a while back as a far-off intended feature
me neither
lookin' for supporting evidence now, but i thought i saw it in a dev interview/youtube video a whiiiiiiile back
if it's that old and never mentionned it again, might have changed their mind
I wouldn't trust things that were said once a long time ago. Chances are it was just a thought and got discarded. We would probably have heard more about it if it was anything more
I'd say, at this point, unless you've got a clip or screenshot on hand for proof, I wouldn't say anything about a possible feature mentioned once offhand and never again, or mentioned by someone not a dev
yeah, that's fair
customizable horns are alread confirmed iirc
When?
welcome to the club
@hoary ocean Scars and missing limbs seems more like part of the combat system then customisation
@hoary ocean ah yes, taking away a primary means of offence/defence is an excellent idea
What @broken dawn ?!
Cerato is in the game
@vestal scroll The Juvenile Pachy model already looks like Stygimoloch or Dracorex
The back of their head has the same kind sharp spikes, trying to find you a decent picture.
also keep in mind these are not necessarily the original dinosaurs we have fossils off, but recreated versions a la Jurassic Park
this reflects in how some of them look closer to the original creatures while others deviate more from the original form
@wanton quail you expect them to implement shit immediately once its suggested?
@wanton quail what are you taking about? They already do
nah m8 aint been an update for so long exept minor fixes
Because theyre recoding thhe game
cough RECODE cough
Didnt you see the announcement where they're fixing the game's code cause it was fucked to shit?
if you take a look at the pinnd messages, you'l lsee tha they are taking some suggestions into serious consideration
besides, you want proof they read the suggestions? the current weight system was suggested by a community member.
I'll get the steam page thing for the recode
bruh u guys are too protective its just my opinion now u guys are shiitin on me man
devs: there will be a content drought while we recode the game
lads, moments later: WhY No ConTenT dEvS doNt cArE
We're letting you know that the recode is why there's no updates currently. Dont expect any for a little while longer, too.
sigh
There's no "protectiveness" we're telling you stuff
ok sorry m8 no need to bite me head of
Everyone plays victim when someone tells them something, i swear
True
lads: shit on the devs
people: dont shit on the devs
lads: oI maTe Im juSt havIn me OpinIon
just try not coming off so harsh. these des are working their asses off to getrid of all this buggy coding that doesnt even agree with itself, and we just gotta be patient.
yeah, besides, it's not like we haven't seen any new content that will be coming with the recode.
nalriot thanks for yeeses feedback il takeit ino consideration next tiom
aye, theres a whooole bunch of previews of stuff if you pay attention to the twitch streams
oh yeah, all those streams that RRaptor's been doing
https://steamstore-a.akamaihd.net/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/2543878145173506235 here's the information on the recode
ah yeah, new and bigger map
new system for bleed, bonebreak, health and stamina.
the basics of it was the original base code was written on a mixture of C++ and Blueprint, which sometimes don't agree with each other in the best of ways, so the devs have to translate the blueprint into C++, and sometimes the blueprints refers back to other portions of the blueprint which makes the whole process very tedious
once the whole code is written in C++ it'll create a better foundation to implement new mechanics and better balance the game it'll also reduce the amount of latency, and give us better graphics
They bassicaly couldnt implement something without bugging other thing
^
I think this is by far the nicest conversation i've seen with someone upset about the lack of content
And they had to wipe server each time they changed grow times thats why they didnt change some weird grows like pachy
draco -> stygi -> pachy would've been cool
but alas it's TI, so lower ur expectations
only if pachy had subadult which It doesnt
@wanton quail They do go through suggestions occasionally. Don't troll the channel. Only warning.
nah m8 i was just mindin me own business than yee guys came along loik nah m8 they wrokin on it and im all like nalroit soz m8 not gonna happen again
why do you type like that
whatareyoutalkintome?
nah hes talking to everyone else currently not in this chat

because he thinks hes the tf2 sniper, presumably

Utah is faster than dilo and can jump out of reach, just don't get bit lmao
As for friendly fire, that's the fault of an uncoordinated pack
All that is true, but i think utah could have a heal regen buff, being still a bad heal regen but a bit better
I like the horrible bad heal regen for utah, that way even in a small pack should think twice before attacking a dilo who is venomous
Idt utahs shit heal is justified
Its current heal is pretty sad, it is the cost of being able to leap out of range of attackers onto rocks, buildings etc i think
specially when seemingly every mid/small got a huge fall resist buff
yeah it has the saddest heal and saddest limp, a hint that you shouldnt get hit to begin with
just carno on mid tiers
People get mad for utahs setting in spots for long periods of time > well yeah they have to spend days in game healing
Meanwhile
allo > 3 mins
Dilo >10
Galli which is comparable has shit heal
Allo and dilo cant jump onto safe spots
10mins is negligible
Galli should be able to but its jump is pretty crap atm
dilo deserved it
They can jump up onto elevated spots
The only reason they need to do that is because of their shit heal
Of course you're going to need to be able to get to safe spots
You have to spend half your damn play time healing if you actually try to do anything
Or dont get hit on one of the most agile dinos
choose your fights
Dilo is just about as agile
people gets mad that utahs only sits on rocks
has massive fall resists
it's not
Uh
heals quick as shit
Dilo is slower
his turn is pretty worse too
No it's not
same people say utah need a bad heal that encourages not fighting and siting on rocks
It's literally not
as i said, don't get hit then
^noob response when comparing it to every other small tier
If you cant beat dilos just leave them alone and pick on sonething closer to your skill level, like a dryo lol
lmao
Right now dilo fills utahs niche easily and more
Seriously you say utah need a bad healing that encourages them not fighting at all and at the same time you get mad if they indeed chose to sit on a rock
I don't care if they are in a rock healing 30 min
i care about being in a rock 100% of the time nesting
not the same thing
That's all they can do
Come down from a rock
get hit
sit afk for 45mins
That's some good gameplay
don't get hit bro
Fucking stupid argument
It's a good argument
When saying
almost as stupid as being hit as utah
Cool story bro
50/50 fight
where one can sit for less then 10mins and resume gameplay and the other has to spend days healing
10 min on a bush is 0 Risk thats what juvies allways do
you know you can smell blood, right?
Watch me move my dilo up a mountain > because it can
And is not like that utahs has allways a rock to sit in when they are bleeding
Watch me fling my dilo off a 20ft drop with no broken leg > because it can
yeah
utah is sooo good
oh wait
Dilo is utah 2.0
has anyone else had issues fighting a giga with a broken leg but then they crouch and its almost like they dont have a penalty from a broken leg
They have to be crouching prior to their leg break for that to happen
They still can't alt turn because of the leg break though
👆
That's what I meant
Diclonius, the consequences of "opening more slots" is lag. But I hope that will change in the future and that we will be able to play on servers with many other players.
:/
@hoary ocean I debated suggesting something like that a long time ago but yours sounds a lot better. My idea was for dilos to have sharper crests, maybe missing a crest (broken off), etc
@valid flower bone break is getting reworked and wont be random so no point on that
that suggestion is dumb
@lilac swallow What do you mean
Literally what i meant
@paper oriole yes
yes?
Talkin about your broken leg suggestion I believe
ohh
y e s
why did everyone down vote the in game map feature? I think it would be very nice to have
I'm genuinely curious
I'm genuinely curious
I think it's just something that's generally looked at as hand-holding when we already have the compass as well as other landmarks to navigate by. Personally I don't care if we get an in-game map, I've seen one on Dondi's streams that the devs have access to or that he was just testing that once, and it wouldn't be so bad for new players helping them get used to the areas by first navigating to it and learning the landmarks along the way, but generally I think the viewpoint is keep the game as realistic as you can get. Animals do have natural compasses and such, but they certainly don't just know the land around them immediately.
That's what I'm thinking anyways in no way do I speak for the general populace nor for people who are actually against the idea of an in-game map
there's my disclaimer
because this is a hARdCoRE sUrViVaL gAmE and people apparently loathe the idea of making it easier on new players
or something
i just know that whenever anyone complains about the maps being hard to figure out, they're bombarded with exclamations of "JUST LEARN THE MAP" and that's...not exactly helpful to someone who JUST started playing and has less than no idea where in the world they are, y'know?
I mean, you could always have it so the map doesn't give you locations, but rather landmarks, and then you can triangulate your relative position
doesn't give you your direct location*
when i first started it was on region 2 without scent or footprint tracking, and i lost many a velo in progression because i didn't know where the fuck i was and i couldn't find an online map of region 2
once i found the region 2 map and learned what landmarks to look for, THEN it was MUCH easier to actually learn where i was in the world and how to navigate, up to where i didn't even need a map
without a map to look at it would've taken me wwaaaayyyy longer
then there are those people who just cannot navigate for the life of them and need a map at hand at all times just to know up from down
Like my wife...she needs a map...and help catching AI, but that’s a separate subject.
Honestly an in game map is needed since the only people who don't use maps either dont know they exist or already know the map. Like why do people want the game so you need to tab out and input your coordinates into a website? The game even has a special feature making that easier so why not just have a map
I find it much more enjoyable to learn where you are and not have a cheat sheet
as one who has no sense of direction, i find it more enjoyable to be able to go where i want to go and slowly phase out the necessity of the map; i had a significantly worse time when i was new vs after i discovered the interactive map lol, but im slowly coming to learn where stuff is, with the aid of the map.
blind exploration vs guiding map is a very subjective topic, alas, since it comes down to how an individual's mind and memory works, so i doubt there'll ever be an objectively correct choice. some people can't tell where they are even if they've accidentally found the beach 15 times, others pick up on landmarks quickly and remember them well.
yes no map is realistic, yes wild animals have a significantly better and more natural sense of direction, but humans lack these things, and we are still human in the end. so i think adding a persistent compass (seriously, do birds forget which way is north when it rains?) at least, and possibly a basic/minimal map (landmarks and maybe lakes but not much else,) can emulate how an animal would naturally have this sense of direction and location. that's my thoughts on it, at least
maybe have the map fill out as you go or something, and wipe it upon death, forcing you to explore to fill it out each time and maybe helping you remember where stuff is based on where you are located on the map.
Its true what tentacle said, we dont have an in Game map but devs have in discord a pinned message with a web that has the map
Devs dont want us to have map and at the same time they provide us one?
Doesnt make sense
Just like the in game chat, It punishes you for using it by making your dino call, and at the same time devs provide you official server chats in discord
Also reminder you aren't forced to use a map if you don't want to either so
yeah i never got rain taking away your compass, like that should still pop up even if smell stuff doesnt
Even makes sense from a strict realism perspective. You're a dinosaur that's been living on a small island for months/years. You're going to know exactly where things are.
@night mountain compass get taken down by rain because they integrated it on the same UI as the highlight iirc thats the only reason it works that way
@night mountain "Also reminder you aren't forced to use a map if you don't want to either so"
really tho
if someone doesn't want to use an in-game map then idk just don't use it?
wouldn't I be at a disadvantage for not using the feature everyone else use tho?
(note that idc about map or not, just throwing an arguement out there
)
i mean at least gamma is actual cheating and against rules
browser maps are dev approved
fair point about the browser map tho
tbh id be surprised if we didnt have a map system after the recode
we basically do already its just janky and inconvenient
dondi's teased one in streams
you press a button and a map overlay pops up with your current position marked with a waypoint
petition for when you use a map to have an animation of your dinosaur reading a roadmap
alternatively, all dinosaurs now have waze and a smartphone
except rex he doesnt get a map because arms are too small to read the screen
trike just has a big fold out roadmap impaled on all 3 horns
you have the best view of the map but also can't see anything else at all, its a tradeoff
@covert oasis i dont really know but i think the cerato dance is actually coming as the "getting rid of pouncing uthas" animation
Not sure but that what i think
hopefully
if it's not a suggestion it means I can take it down since it shouldnt belong in the #general-feedback channel, right? @covert oasis
i really dont care you do you lol
Whats the suggestion?
I dont understand the point of the image. You cant just put a picture with no context or actual suggestion
Yeah, there needs to be an actual suggestion behind it.
Probably should put that in #general-feedback
Youre in the discussion channel

@brazen wolf im tentatively engaging you to say bone break will be reworked to depend on bite location rather than rng percentage
yeah I hate when a rex clips ur tail and ur leg magically breaks
as if you had a leg connected to your tail
All this is getting changed om recode no point on talking about it
yeah
@brittle bough True, but most people already know to ass ride a trike. I’m suggesting maybe doing something a little more challenging so the Apex’s can’t just spam bite behind you and they’d actually have to fight you differently and coming at different angles and such. It’s just too easy to kill a trike honestly by just staying behind him
isn't regional and varying damage gonna be a thing, making assriding less immediately viable since tail bites would be less damage? and to be fair trikes shouldn't be alone anyway, refer to the well-known protective circle of horns
recode Will bring colission
I do want to point out slate, that trikes should not be group dependent so they dont die. That would make trike a shitty apex if it needs to be with other things to defend itseld
*itself
aye I know
also, dagaz, my suggestion wasn't related to yours, so I'm not even specifically talking about trike lol- not sure why you came up to me
im not opposed to it getting it's defense buffed, if that's what you somehow picked up
Oh my bad I thought you were replying to me lol, sorry about that.
Also, Ptera, I definitely agree with that
Relying in group just make people stop playing that therefore grouping becomes harder
yes, indeed. i didn't want to debate trike viability and I agreed with giving it a defense buff.
i was randomly forced into debating something I don't have the needed experience to debate on, so going on about how herbivores needing herds to survive is dumb after that point has already been made isnt needed. discuss the actual suggestions instead.
not too add more fire to the trike thing, but a dibble doesn't need a herd to fight 1v1 against an allo or a sucho
neither should a trike
against the other apexes
The slower/less stamina it has the strongest it should be
this has already been established
true that
to the utah heal thing, the one key thing it should be improved is it's bleed heal. It's a weak carnivore, but it should be able to handle bleed a bit better
i have
it's not easy but neither is it impossible
and you can always run away
When someone says 1v1 i usually think they mean a battle and not "im gonna run as soon as i can"
if possible i prefer not to engage with suchos as a dibble, but if cornered i will gore them and then run
and if that fails they can spam altturn all they want, because even by just walking a dibble has an excellent turn
We are talking about viability and running away is part of that
viability is not getting caught at all
Therefore galli wouldnt be considered viable despite being able to out run everything
Trike cant avoid getting caught thats why It need to be stronger
trike however doesn't even have the option of running
Trike isnt exactly weak
it's butt is, evidently
Yeah It screws every mid tier but wait until an apex and trike is screwed
no, but it's relativelly easy to handle by both apexes, a giga can just bleed it to death and a rex can face tank it
trike should be the one thing you can't face tank lol, it seems like that would be it's whole point
Not screwed too but when a trike sees an apex.the first thing It thinks is about what Dino to grow next
Trike is a literal "face tank"
in real life a rex could face tank a trike sure...if it wanted to commit sepuku
Exactly
In fact i think everyone should be discouraged of face tanking anyone else unless and obvious strength diference is in
"imma face tank this allo" some carno, probably
Ho hell
Rex need bone break to imobilized his prey
If he don't he can't survive
And you should not go on a rex
Exactly levi
This will be rework when location damage will be done
Rex without bb is asking for either buffing It stam (which no one wants) or removing It (which is a no)
But when a rex will bite your back you will be paralized I think or something like that
If rex don't have bone break so buff his damage, stam, run durationa dn ambush duration
For one shot all mid tiers
Ah yes the "I want to kill rexes easily, even though it's very clear that the dinosaur I'm playing as is not meant to do that" is back
today on lads ask "why doesnt the apex have an obvious natural counter!!"
aw shit here we go again
also from the author of "dilos keep killing me as a juvie and sub giga"
me personally when I play dilo I prefer to wait until they are a monster that towers over me, can kill me with a single bite because of a huge amount of bleed AND damage and can turn in place like a ballerina on speed
because i'm smart you see
suggester hates chance-based cc in rex bb
suggest chance-based cc in giga "shred"
🤔 I smell hypocrisy.
You smell bias
@loud nimbus that isn't a suggestion.
oh
I'd just buy it for $20 anyway, cause then you can support the game more
Giga vs Anky?
what about it?
Utah can heal up on high places and be completely untouchable
That's the trade off for having long heal times
If they had fast heals they could go in and out of combat and it would be abused
@glossy tangle
@jovial blade the problem is is that your not always near a high place so it's hard to say that and just that
It has the ability to do that
I think it's fair to have slow healing
Because they can choose to stay near high places or run to them to go and heal
@glossy tangle
But @jovial blade if you think about it, they don't have good health so it would balance it
What ever cant one shot it, they should be able to go and heal
You have the option to heal in safety most of the time
I havent seen utahs hunting not far from a rock in ages
They simply dont hunt far from a rock because far from they are dead if they get hit therefore the "It can sit on rock so It need a bad heal" encourages them to do the so hated sitting on a rock most of the time
And a bad healing doesnt need to be 4 times slower than a normal one
Good idea @indigo sun
Thank you
Per my message in #401481402782056460 @primal copper the "hitboxes" are a latency issue that will be fixed with the recode
I hope so
@formal vine sorry for the late (and to interrupt current discussion) but the water suggestion is being played with on the dev-side https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/ApatheticCrispyCoyoteSeemsGood?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
@verbal acorn and @indigo sun sorry for the ping but I have to say that your most recent suggestions about theropod combat and burrowing were amazing and could add so much to The Isle!
Both ideas have outstanding potential!
But when was that video @finite perch
yes
can you respost it?
anyone else think cerato should be just a bit smaller than an allo but around the same size
yeah i remember hearing dondi say something about how it would be pointless to grow to adulthood and survive only to die/be hindered to a random disease out of your control
like being sick from overeating is different
because it’s self inflicted
yeah arent you gonna like vomit up your food
i though you meant that being sick is self inflicted
i didnt see the overheating part
nop
that would be okay, but yeah i see how i was off from the diseases
Id like different effects for sickness depending on what caused it
wait theyre gonna make it so you can get sick
what do yall think about making cerato a bit bigger
wouldnt affect my enjoyment of the game and would require some decent legwork to make the animation and speed match with the new size
cerato in isle is already bigger than its irl findings tbh i dont think it'd be necessary, just buff his defenses a bit
@lethal wren boi thats called afternoon to evening
Why would they make giga look emaciated ad dehydrated
that carcharo looks like its on the verge of death lmao
The Giga looks Good to Me.
looks fucking shit

ok so what is wrong with the Isle's giga model ?
get that thing a sandwich, Jesus Christ
so skinny
why is it standing on its tippy-toes tho
like a ballerina
that just looks painful
and?
is the species more big of the family of carcharodon
?
just because a dinosaur exists doesn't mean it will it will end up in the game, specially one that is so similar to an already existing one, in this case we already have the giga so adding the carcharo seems redundant
the rex is and spino are the more powerfull the reason jurasick park fans and the movie is a disaster i prefert the discovery and national geo documentals
the documentary dinosaurs are more real
all the people see movies but the movies are more fiction
the hell does that even mean? the rex and the spino are real dinosaurs that have appeared in documentaries aswell
what even is the argument here?
but the spino is a fisher to weak and slow same the sucho and the rex no is to powerfull
the bite of the rex is more powerfull
the spino in apex need under the giga and the rex need be the more powerfull
spino as of now is not a balanced dinosaur, but it will be once it's added to survival along with a new model and different playstyle