#general-feedback-discussion

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white torrent
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Is what I don’t like

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It’s so weightless and light

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It doesn’t fit the model at all

mighty saffron
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Well dont get me started on some of the animation. For example. Dilo has parkinsons. He can not EVER be still.

night mountain
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i mean i didn't mean having them move the same way, just the ability to pick something up and swing it around

mighty saffron
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And i agree with the tweaking of most sounds in the game as well as animations. I made suggestions accordingly on them. I never get enough upvotes though so i am always forgotten 😄

white torrent
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I made a lengthy suggestion

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It got like 38 things

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I’m

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So proud

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Well a rex wouldn’t be able to do that with an ankh

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*anky

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Way way way way to much weight

night mountain
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i know i was sorta kidding with that specific part

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lmao give trike not only nostrils give it THIS

white torrent
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If I could have anything about the trike Redone or fixed

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It would be the trot and run animations, and that ugly little neck pouch thing. It always bothered me

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Makes its neck look reallyyy chonky

hoary ocean
mighty saffron
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Even if used for humans i see no problem for multiple assignments of the same button across different factions. At no point are you a Human and a dinosaur at the same time. 😄

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And holy s ! I almost forgot that this exists

hoary ocean
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Yeah I've always wondered what that meant and seeing your suggestion made me think there could possibly be a stance change for Dinos

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but who knows

mighty saffron
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Finger crossed that something like my suggestion was already planned. :3

indigo sun
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@glossy tangle they likely wont give bone break to anky until its put into survival so I don't see a point in suggesting it now

glossy tangle
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the reason something isn't in survival is always because it isn't finished, so I'm saying it should have bone break when it's finished for sure

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otherwise it'd be weak and barely played most likely

mental sleet
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reminder that just because it may get updated to go into survival, it doesn't mean it will be playable

indigo sun
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Okay, makes sense. Quite a few people have made suggestions to give anky bone break like, now, while it's not finished, so that's generally what I assume people mean by giving anky bone break

steady cosmos
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** iMpAtIeNcE**

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is weakness

glossy tangle
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plus it makes sense for anky to have bone break, look at it, that club should do something to a rexes bones

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also ankylosaurus was rarely attacked by a Tyrannosaurus Rex because it had such a deadly defensive weapon

obsidian matrix
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even with BB, anky would be a snack for rexes

umbral prairie
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anky doesn't work without locational damage and dino collision

spiral pond
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para sadly cant get sprint speed buff cause then it would run down allos

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it can get other buff though like stam regan and trot speed

indigo sun
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I dont think pachy needs bonebreak, personally. It just seems kinda.. useless. By the time you break the leg of whatever is attack you, you'll be bleeding too bad or die. Its a low tier, i dont think bone break is necessary.
I'll agree with most of the rest though

blazing charm
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I can see plenty of uses for it personally, smash the leg of something that is trying to attack you and make a break for it. Can at least slow down the pursuer for a minute or two.

grand brook
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^

dire bone
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I wish we will get some sort of "overthrow?" ability , or anything that make us able to have some sort of CrowdControl

formal vine
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Maybe

grand brook
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in the case of pachy it attacks by headbutting into it's enemies, the force alone should be able to break a raptor's leg. Once the leg is broken you can use it as a chance to get away from danger

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and with a bit of a bleed resistance buff and a speed nerf it could become essentially a mini dibble with brute strenght instead of bleed

marble ether
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@glossy tangle ur in the wrong section pal

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Discussion is here

glossy tangle
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Responding to @formal vine I would say I agree with some but here are the ones I disagree with:
-Change rex's one call to something more suited to the Isle and not jurassic park, and alter Utah's one call to be less jurassic park as well (Not hating on the movies, The isle needs originality in two of its most popular dinos)... I seriously think these calls suit the rex and Utahraptor

And the ones I think defintely need to be added:
-Buff para's speed
-Add flowers and other colourful vegetation to thenyaw and V3
-different variety of plants for herbivores
-Maybe have dinosaurs leave a trail of blood instead of bloodsplatters every 3 seconds?

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done

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changed

marble ether
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Thanks

formal vine
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The new rex call is too jurassic park in my opinion

glossy tangle
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wait what does the old one sound like? I wasn't playing back then

formal vine
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The old one sound way better

marble ether
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The old one blew your earholes out of ur head

marble ether
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And it was better

formal vine
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Yep

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Waaay better

grand brook
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specially since the new 1 and 3 call seem to come from a completelly different dinosaur

marble ether
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Rex call now seems like a cough compared to old one

formal vine
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Yeah lol

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1 call sounds disgusting now

marble ether
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It's not bad but It's way too short for me

formal vine
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The Isle tryna' cash in on popular movies is understandable, but PLEASE have some originality in dinosaurs

marble ether
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Yikes

grand brook
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I think the original sound came from a pig scream slowed down with some big cat sounds

marble ether
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That's not true at all lol

formal vine
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jfc

graceful hazel
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Yikes indeed

formal vine
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So new one or old one guys?

grand brook
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@marble ether what is ? the origin of the sound?

marble ether
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No the isle trying to cash in from big movies

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That's not true at all

grand brook
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suure

glossy tangle
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I think we could get a new one that lasts a lot longer and is a lot louder and scarier that way rex will sound a lot scarier too

marble ether
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It's a completely new environment

formal vine
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Look at the utah call

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Look at the rex call

marble ether
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Only thing similar is there are dinos

formal vine
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Which is the main point of the game lol

marble ether
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Yoink

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So every dino game is a rip off of jurassic park?

grand brook
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The utah is literally the JP raptor with correct wrists

formal vine
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Yep

grand brook
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same head shape, same proportions, same calls...

formal vine
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Zorr said it

grand brook
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come on

formal vine
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Yeah

grand brook
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let's not kid ourselves

marble ether
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So because 2 dinos have similarities to a movie, the entire game is a ripoff?

formal vine
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All of the people try to make the indoraptor by making raptors all black and yellow lol

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No

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The point is the isle has to be original in two of its most popular dinos

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Which are the highlight of the game

marble ether
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Utah is not popular at all

grand brook
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I prefer the term homage

formal vine
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And the main gamemode

glossy tangle
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yeah that's so true Adikavita "All of the people try to make the indoraptor by making raptors all black and yellow lol"

formal vine
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Utahraptor not popular?

marble ether
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Utah is hated rn lol

formal vine
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Are you kidding yourself?

glossy tangle
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but the calls are quite cool

marble ether
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Everyone shitting on it for being an afk machine

glossy tangle
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Viper it's not hated

grand brook
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and you know the moment they add blue to the detail colour, you know EXACTLY what skin they will make

formal vine
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Just because they removed raptor rock doesn't mean I don't see utah packs of 10 at twins and great lake

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oh

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Blue the raptor confirmed

glossy tangle
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ye lol

grand brook
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it's hated because utahs are not doing what they should, which is run around and explore

formal vine
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Yeah

grand brook
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not stay in one spot and camp all day

formal vine
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^^^

marble ether
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Well yeah so It's not popular

grand brook
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they are dinosaur equivalent of canines

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they should be nomads

marble ether
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Dilo, allo and rex

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Those are popular

formal vine
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Well yet so, rex is the most popular

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And it has no originality

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Except the design

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To me the broadcast sounds like JP

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Fight me if you will thats what I hear

grand brook
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it is the JP sound barely changed as to avoid copyright I suposse

formal vine
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The old call was guttaral and iconic to the game

marble ether
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Yeah but they changed it cuz most people hated it

grand brook
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did they?

marble ether
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And it didnt give rex an identity

lilac swallow
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it seems that having a bad call that is original is better than having a good call that is based on something else

marble ether
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Other than just being loud

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Even tho I liked the old one more

formal vine
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They should bring back the old one

grand brook
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@lilac swallow well...kinda? I mean the other one at least was made from the ground up

marble ether
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Just make an entire new one then

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Since a lot of players hated it

lilac swallow
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I do prefer a good call regardless of its origin

marble ether
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An idea is not good ig 50% like it and 50% hate it

formal vine
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And why they gotta make rex the strongest?

marble ether
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Cuz It's iconic

formal vine
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A trike should be able to kill a rex

grand brook
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also this calls belonged to the magna rex

formal vine
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Thats the point

marble ether
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And they can

formal vine
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assriding doesn't work now

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on rexes

marble ether
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Im in a dc group where they post solo kills all the time

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As a trike to a rex

lilac swallow
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If the Rex didnt but ride the trike after getting bb doesnt count

grand brook
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honeslty the rex being the strongest is not really a problem for me, but trike needs a bit of a buff to keep up with the other apexes

marble ether
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I aint gonna go down this dumb discussion again lol

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Wasted too many time on this topic already

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My suggestion on thid matter is clear, reduce the pack limits and the problem fixes itself

formal vine
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^^

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6 rexes is too much

lilac swallow
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5*

marble ether
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1 or 2

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Is enough

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As a max

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Pack size resize

To this day I don't know why pack sizes are allowed to be this big. I mean, why would anyone ever need 5 rexes or 12 allos in 1 pack? It's not practical and just plain dumb. Suggestion for pack size resizes, carnivore only.

Rex: 1-2
Giga: 2-3
Sucho: 3-4
Allo: 3-4
Carno: 4-5
Cerato: 4-5
Dilo: 6
Utah: 6

graceful hazel
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^

grand brook
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if locational damage and body colission become a thing, trike will have a better chance

lilac swallow
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Trike will get very beneficied for that

grand brook
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no longer a rex will be able to facetank a trike, as it shouldn't

formal vine
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yep

graceful hazel
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Realistically didn’t Rex not even hunt Trike that often too?

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Just because of the dangers n shit?

formal vine
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^

grand brook
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it did hunt it, but usually smaller ones

graceful hazel
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Well yea

jovial skiff
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no just that predators fail alot when hunting

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like a lot

grand brook
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many adults survived their encounters with rexes

graceful hazel
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True

grand brook
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it is in their skulls, marks of teeth

lilac swallow
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I still think this game should make you be afraid of losing a dino, this way people kamikaze less frquently resulting in succes sometimes

graceful hazel
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I agree with the fact that Trike should be a bit more fears from most peeps pf

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feared*

grand brook
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true that

formal vine
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ye

jovial skiff
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it really isn't that trike is weak

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its more of

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the apex spam

grand brook
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bad combat mechanics

formal vine
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rex is strong

jovial skiff
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and carnivore/herbivore ratio

formal vine
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yep

graceful hazel
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That’s fair

jovial skiff
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I mean if there was 2 for Rex

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that means they'll spread out more

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but if there is 5 camping a lake...

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both are bad

graceful hazel
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Yeahhhh

jovial skiff
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neither is better

grand brook
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the carnivore and herbivore ratio will always be a problem i'm afraid

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people just like carnivores in general

jovial skiff
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tbh we need to encourage people to play herbies

graceful hazel
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Youre not wrong

grand brook
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and this is coming from a herbie main

graceful hazel
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I personally prefer playing herb but i’m not sure if that’s just me anymore tbh

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Oh ayyy

lilac swallow
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When ai stops being that stupid carnis would require skill to grow reducing its population

jovial skiff
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ai should just spawn randomly

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not when ur hungry

lilac swallow
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Exactly

jovial skiff
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that's to easy

graceful hazel
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Yup

grand brook
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i miss the days when as a carno juvie I had to search everywhere for any type of food

lilac swallow
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Ai should be like pseudo players that try to survive

formal vine
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lol

lilac swallow
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Not a autogenerated food suply

grand brook
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that screams it's head off

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eat me! eat me!

formal vine
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lol

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zorr is right

grand brook
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and avas running in circles

lilac swallow
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Even as a carni i would prefer having to search and actively hunt even if its just an ai

grand brook
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the main reason I main herbivore it's because it's the challenging thing now

graceful hazel
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Same

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Plus, I find it entertaining when people try to attack me but end up failing because SHOCKINGLY a utah isn’t the best thing to 1v1 a dibble with.

grand brook
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grew a giga once, the most disgustingly boring growth I've had

graceful hazel
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People got some balls.

lilac swallow
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I dont mind games being easy, but one thing is easy and another thing is literally delivering you food in a survival game

jovial skiff
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tbh carnis are annoying

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over confident fucks

graceful hazel
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You aren’t wrong.

jovial skiff
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time to 1v1 this Dibble as a DIlo

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I bet ima win

graceful hazel
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Oh god

grand brook
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Among herbivores diablo is one of my favourites, just love seeing an allo runing in fear as it bit me and z turned around in a second

graceful hazel
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HONESTLY YEAH

jovial skiff
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dibble tbh is one of the ebst herbs

lilac swallow
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I remember a suggestion that dibble shouldnt one shot utah

jovial skiff
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best*

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in viability

lilac swallow
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Was hilarous

jovial skiff
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and what it should be

grand brook
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who said that?!

graceful hazel
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I also like Galli since people are fuckin stupid and try to think they can get you?

lilac swallow
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Idk was long ago

graceful hazel
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Like ok rex try to chase me without stalking or even trying to ambush alright chief.

grand brook
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bUt DOnDi hErBs are OP

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bunch of whiners

graceful hazel
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Yup.

jovial skiff
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people who complain about their dilo dying to a herd of maias should not exist

grand brook
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oh yeah galli is incredible, just seeing a carno trying to figure out how you just dodged him at the last second

graceful hazel
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Like, I don’t see you getting ganged up on by 5 rexes all at once piling on you as a maia.

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Honestly yeah

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Galli is extremely entertaining to play since it’s so easy to fuck with people.

jovial skiff
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Hey Galli is to fast for my rex. Plz nerf

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lol

graceful hazel
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No, Sinful

grand brook
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this is legit a comment I read a while ago

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Dondi please buff rex it gets outplayed by everything

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wut

graceful hazel
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Like

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Okay rex is NOT supposed to be a chaser

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That should be obvious

grand brook
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no shit you can outrun a rex, it's not supossed to give long chases

graceful hazel
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It’s an ambush pred mainly, atleast in the game. It focuses on strength more than speed.

grand brook
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if you want that there's plenty to choose

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but not rex

graceful hazel
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Like maybe if you had some skill, you would actually be able to kill shit.

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Gallis are easy as hell to kill if you ambush them right.

grand brook
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hell a utah is that and it takes a fraction of a t rex growth fase to fully grow

graceful hazel
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You’re not wrong

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Honestly if you’re good at Utah, you can kill anything.

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I’ve seen Utah’s kill rexes and even spinos. It is extremely sad.

grand brook
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true that's what makes them a bit too dangerous in my opinion, specially if they get the pounce back

lilac swallow
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Wait, with alt turn?

graceful hazel
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No not with alt turn

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Alt turn fucks every fight up let’s be real for a sec

lilac swallow
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Ah, thats easy

graceful hazel
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Exactly

lilac swallow
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Nope

grand brook
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oh yeah rex even with alt turn is fucked if it encounters a pack of well organized utahs

graceful hazel
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yup

grand brook
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sure the hitboxes are bit buggy on the rex as of now

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and still

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it can be done

graceful hazel
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I’ve seen 3 utah’s take out a trike.
Of course that trike was stupid, but come on.

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You’re a trike.

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It’s just sad at that point.

lilac swallow
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Without alt turn i can kill anything with my utah just need to be patient

grand brook
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a giga with alt turn though...

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what a monster

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it's a good thing they are a pain to grow as of now

lilac swallow
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Giga's alt turn is indeed overtuned just like almost any giga stat

grand brook
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^preach

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honestly animations for alt turn can't come soon enough, it's a bit ridiculous right now. Seeing a giga twirling like a ballerina

lilac swallow
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But wait! giga cant kill rex so giga is shit. Seriously hate when people base giga viability on killing Rex or not

graceful hazel
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God

grand brook
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yeah not like it can kill anything from a trike to any other mid to low tier...

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just don't mess with rexes

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what is so difficult to understand

lilac swallow
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And not like It can avoid rex too

grand brook
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but it's base speed is too slow DAWNDI, not like I can trot away

lilac swallow
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And have twice the stam

grand brook
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let's be fair, most of this assumptions are based on close encounters in deathmatch servers

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i'm convinced

lilac swallow
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Me too

grand brook
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deathmatch ain't survival

lilac swallow
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Or by people who doesnt know what being aware of your surroindings is

grand brook
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that too, rex outside it's small window of oportunity it's fucked in most cases

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the only reason most rexes are alive is because of distracted players and ai

graceful hazel
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Survival is an entire different story

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Mainly because people actually listen and pay attention to what’s around them lmao

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And actually use strategy

lilac swallow
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Rex has the least distance in ambush and the shortest stamina and is huge making It hard to sneak, if a rex ambush you he legit deserve the kill

graceful hazel
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True

grand brook
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hell the subadult it's actually more viable

lilac swallow
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Yeah

grand brook
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being a stamina based mid tier

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but you barely see them in action because they hide

lilac swallow
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"but Rex is so fast and can kill giga, giga is unviable"

grand brook
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eating ai all day

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i'll agree that perhaps it's juvie and sub forms require a bit of fine tuning

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but the adult should get a couple of nerfs if anything

lilac swallow
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I honestly would love all juvies and subs being like rex's and by like rex's i mean actually viable and not just a downscaled adult

languid ember
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juvi carno is good

unique lichen
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@grand brook I disageee

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As a sub adult rex I killed at least 7 raptors....with a broken leg

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Sorry chiming in from earlier said conversation

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And can rex truly kill giga 100% of the time? I think not.

marble ether
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As a juvie cera my record is 4 baby allos at once

unique lichen
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^ praises

marble ether
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Cera is prob the best juvie atm

unique lichen
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Lol

grand brook
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i was refering the subadult giga

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the sub rex is fine

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it's vulnerable but viable

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i've killed sub rexes with carnos

gaunt parcel
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@unique lichen whenever I'm a rex I get destroyed by Gigas 24/7 but I truly suck at Rex and have no idea how to fight it it

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But as adult ^

grand brook
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@lilac swallow the dilo, utah and carno juvies are quite viable

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same for the galli and dryo juvies

lilac swallow
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Didnt say all juvies were unviable, if i said i didnt want to

grand brook
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yeah, honeslty some juvies should get some love, like the ceratopsian juvies. They are defenceless littles potatoes

umbral prairie
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ceratopsian juvies should be able to run faster, they are probably between the size of baby and adult rhinos or hippos, and they are pretty fast despite their stubby legs

lilac swallow
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Whats the point of being an strong juvie if you arent strong nor fast enought to survive any adult encounter not to say they are the hardest at hiding between the juvies(talking about ceratopsian juvies)

night mountain
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Yeah i really hate the trend of making juvis straight terrible versions of the adults. Not saying buff them to hell or anything but they should ideally have SOME sort of interesting gameplay that isn't just running around trying to find adults before you get unlucky and seen, or hiding in a bush

lilac swallow
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Honestly It sucks the "wait until you can actually play" this game is right now

umbral prairie
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yeah it's not great

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but it will hopefully change with affinity and improvements to juvies in general

lilac swallow
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And unique animations for juvies like rex has

night mountain
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im honestly so torn between like

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wanting new species but also wanting work on juvis

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the struggle

lilac swallow
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I simply dont play this game due to the shit grow cycles and lack of a rewarding adult in many cases

umbral prairie
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they can work on both simultaneously (do you write it like that?)

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yeah the game has no gameplay depth right now

odd idol
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@unique lichen As sweet as that was, its not a suggestion for the game. :(

night mountain
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also that skull faced rex looks like a juggalo

grand brook
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same goes for the young adults in most species, because of their smaller size their walking and running animations go slower, so you have situations like the carno in which a grown juvie is faster than the young adult

umbral prairie
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would be cool if stats were progressing smoothly (idk how to explain), so for example a fresh adult rex would still be weaker than the full adult, but would have stam and speed close to the subadult to make it a bit more viable. As it grows, it gets stronger, but also loses it's stam.

night mountain
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doesnt that happen with a few carnivores

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like their bite forces goes DOWN when they grow to fresh adult

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or am i misremembering

umbral prairie
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yeah that happens aswell

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would also be cool if that got improved

umbral prairie
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@fast tulip it would help if you actually explained what that new playstyle would be, idk if the devs know what you mean

blazing charm
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^ Was JUST about to say.

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If you want to suggest any creature, you kind of need to elaborate on your reasoning.

night mountain
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I can explain it for em

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its fun because its small and inoffensive and scavenges better than anything else

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nothin is better at tailing an apex and mooching off kills

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so fast it's the best bet for it by far

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imo the only change it really needs for survival is more resistant to a leg break, idk why its not in tbh

glossy tangle
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@night mountain the reason herra isn't in survival is because it isn't finished

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@kindred reef that has been suggested so much

kindred reef
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yeah

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cause it's need to be changed

glossy tangle
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but I do completely agree

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it is way too short for sure

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like you can't do big hunts very well because if it takes too long it'll become night and that'd mean you'd have to give up the hunt

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and then your prey can escape

kindred reef
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you can change that in the code line of the game, so an uptate ins't required at all

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ye

glossy tangle
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yeah and it could even become a server thing

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so the server owner chooses

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I'd probably have in total days and nights both individually lasting a minimum of 30mins up to an hour

night mountain
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whats even missing from herrera anyway

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is it the babbies just being little adults

glossy tangle
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it's growth stages most likely

night mountain
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oh makes sense I guess

glossy tangle
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but you can always ask a dev

night mountain
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Was gonna say i play herra a lot and couldn't think of much aside from its stupid legs that are made of glass

glossy tangle
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yeah

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I hate how fragile the legs are

night mountain
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you use the jump at all or run down any hill or hit a rock and you're probably breaking your legs lmao

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that especially bugs me because Im p sure fixing that is just like, a matter of changing a couple numbers

glossy tangle
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it should be a lot more capaple

night mountain
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bary has the same issue to a slightly lesser extent

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wasnt austro way way too big to glide

lament thorn
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With those tiny wings?

lilac swallow
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Austro is utah sized just thinner

night mountain
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idk why devs dont fix those issues asap that are super easy fixes though. Like if something takes like 2 seconds like im assuming giving something a little more durable of a leg does I don't see any reason to not just slap it on there

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i guess maybe unless theyre gonna overhaul herra soon, idk

glossy tangle
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I mean... I'm no paleontologist I just look at it from a gamer perspective so I guess

lament thorn
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Meh they aren't in survival

lilac swallow
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The Code is a mess and the smaller stat change does cost time due to that

glossy tangle
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oh wow...

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maybe not then

lament thorn
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Did you think they were like small dogs?

glossy tangle
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nah idk what austro truely looked like

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I just took a glance at it

blazing charm
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I mean, Austro still has potential.

glossy tangle
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and was like "It has feathers it has wings it should be able to at least glide" XD

lament thorn
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I really hope it's added to survival

blazing charm
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It would make for an excellent small tier fisher, being able to dive.

glossy tangle
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yeah

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I can't wait for fish to be added

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it'll make fishers a lot more fun and realistic

lament thorn
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I remember when Sucho was first added and everyone got hyped believing fish would be added soon XD

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So when we finally get em it will be great

night mountain
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yeah im hyped for fish

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everything aquatic aside from maybe spino is near crippled without em

compact coyote
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??

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i dont get what you mean

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so i assume deino is fucked without fish then?

bright echo
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Is there anyway of improving scent/smelling?

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Like smelling water is fine but is there a way to be able to smell if there's other dinos nearby

compact coyote
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not really

bright echo
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Poo

fast tulip
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Yeah Herreras are good at ambushing small dinos too - a ninja-like playstyle if you will

night mountain
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No, im just saying fish existing at all makes them all instantly way more viable

mental sleet
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Makes them viable to begin with*

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They are useless on land, their juveniles probably worse.

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Small food in your natural environment is essentially fish.

spiral pond
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Juvi Sucho literally swims faster then it can run

lilac swallow
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@wiru 1 you dont fight a rex you run, 2 bb is getting reworked

desert spoke
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if a sucho gets seen by an adult rex and its not near a lake or the ocean its very dead

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since its trot is shitty

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and its run speed is bad

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full adult sucho

paper oriole
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Trike cant really run either theyre slow as shit

languid ember
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Sucho can escape rex just fine

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Unless it gets amushed

desert spoke
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rex walk is faster then sucho

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so if the sucho runs out of stam

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its doomed

lilac swallow
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Rex has 30 sec of stam just run away on sight

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And sucho has very high by the time It runs out the Rex has Lost your

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You*

languid ember
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Boii if you can’t run away a rex when you have 2 minutes and 50 seconds more stam then you have to be next level garbage

desert spoke
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if that rex is dedicated it can just follow you

lilac swallow
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Rex trot is shit, by the time It catcht you you have full stam again

languid ember
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Dude. The sucho can sit down and have max stam again before the rex has trotted you down

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Rex tror is ass

umbral prairie
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ava is a melon dondiREE

dreamy portal
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pretty much

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if you can't outrun a rex you have problems

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most of the time the people who get killed by them either overcompensate or try to pick fights

blazing charm
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@golden shoal As much as I would love to have Ava, it does actually need a reason.

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Specifically, a niche and some kind of mechanical gimick.

mental sleet
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Why does it need to have a niche ?

paper oriole
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It fills the honk honk niche

blazing charm
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Isn't that what most people look for?

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Like, I personally don't give a shit about niches

indigo sun
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I mean, if it doesnt do anything besides look cool and sound cute and cant do anything besides die because its super small, it's kinda useless

mental sleet
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I mean, for a suggestion maybe, but I don't think niche should be a main defining factor of an animal.

paper oriole
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Lots play something they find pleasing to look at

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Even if its just fodder

mental sleet
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If someone can find something good for Ava to do, why not.

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You don't even need to give it a juvenile.

paper oriole
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I mean avas can already nest at least

blazing charm
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I personally gave Ava the "niche" of a Warthog, then I worked that into him doing stuff like digging lil hidey hole burrows, digging for food and mud bathing.

paper oriole
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Thatd be good

white torrent
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I like that idea

blazing charm
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Basically, I try use niches as an idea base.

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Sorta like how I made Bary a Jaguar.

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I personally don't agree with constantly comparing the playables to real life niches, because the Isle's ecosystem is utterly implausible so comparing it to a real-life ecoystem seems kind of pointless.

white torrent
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A lot of people compare cerato to hyena, honey badger, or Leopard

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Which , of these fits best do you thinkv

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?

blazing charm
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Uh

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I personally think, Hyena.

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But that's sorta because of the Allosaurus=Lion comparison.

grand brook
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honestly that is a good niche for ava, specially if herrera becomes a surival dino it could be it's herbivore counter and the smallest armoured dinosaur

mental sleet
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counters are bad yo

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like juvi utah and dryo burrow

indigo sun
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@zenith vale I believe specialized diets are already planned for herbivores

mental sleet
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having something that can invalidate you is bloody awful

zenith vale
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That's cool. I hope they add it soon after the recode

indigo sun
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it'll probably be a bit, but I can't imagine it'll take horribly long

desert spoke
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Ceratos are honey badgers

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I would assume it would be before August

indigo sun
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We haven't seen anything specifically about the specialized diets, and with the recode being such a large task and other things seeming to be higher priorities, I don't think it'll be before August

indigo sun
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@lavish hornet I see no reason for hybrid dinosaurs from another franchise to be brought into a survival horror game that already has mutated, terrifying dinosaurs coming. It just doesn't make much sense when there's things much scarier than a hybrid that never existed in the first place. All the strain dinosaurs existed but were made more powerful in certain areas

blazing charm
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@ashen wasp Vulgis?

indigo sun
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That means "common" i believe, dunno why it'd be there though

torpid wedge
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vulgus means crowd/people

indigo sun
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regardless, still doesnt make sense

torpid wedge
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plural ablative is "by/with/from" a crowd of people (vulgis)

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it means absolutely no sense

indigo sun
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it was brought up in a conversation about magnaraptor's full name meaning. vulgis was determined to mean common, i guess

torpid wedge
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in latin? because i don't see how valeThink

indigo sun
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means something along those lines

ashen wasp
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Yeah! Apparently Magnaraptor vulgis's concept is a JP-esque raptor with a little Komodo dragon and pit viper thrown in for spice. I think the suggestion mighta been referring to more obviously hybrid-y.... hybrids, though. I don't know of any other hybrid creatures planned (unless you count Tribals, I guess)

indigo sun
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i dont think that's quite right

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i dont remember hearing anything about komodo dragon or pit vier

ashen wasp
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hm. I suppose I'll have to double-check, then. Little fuzzy on vulgis

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Thought I remembered hearing that the pits in front of Magnaraptor's eyes were sensory, like heat pits

indigo sun
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I don't know where you're gettin that stuff, but I'd like to take a look. I haven't heard anything about magnaraptor besides it being able to open doors or something

mental sleet
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Oh it was mentioned

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Not the eyes part

ashen wasp
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Ah! I heard that Hyper Utah was the one to open doors, but couldnt find that clip

mental sleet
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but the thermal sensing.

ashen wasp
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unsure if i can post the link here, but RJ confirmed that it has heat pits and a forked tongue on the last page of the deviantart comment section for the magnaraptor's official art piece

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I guess he also specifies it's a "monitor tongue, too"

night mountain
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Idk, i don't especially want hybrids but it's all up to the devs, not like hybrids are any weirder than a psychic liquivore spinosaurus that is also telepathic and controls the weather

indigo sun
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hybrids just don't make sense, cause the isle doesn't seem to involve genetic splicing or whatever the term is, it's experimentation to mutate creatures into somewhat perfect predators

night mountain
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No reason part of trying to make a perfect predator couldn't be splicing stuff together. I don't feel strongly about hybrids either way though and even then wouldn't personally want to see them being a thing until like at the very least the recode and the new species and the hypos and a bunch of other stuff are done anyway.

indigo sun
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hybrids like what the whole jurassic world thing does feels like a bit too much. stuff like stegoceratops has no reason to be included, nor paradeinonychus

night mountain
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Oh yeah agreed on especially not having the JP hybrids, way too much jp stuff in the game already imo

indigo sun
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what's in the game already that's jurassic park?

graceful hazel
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We already have strains which are solely original. Hybrids wouldn’t be.

night mountain
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Basically everything about utah, calling things assets, a ton about the setting, the aviary, and a huge list of other things

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It's not a big deal imo, though i'd like a normal alt for utah

indigo sun
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alt?

night mountain
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alternative skin, just one that looks like the actual animal

indigo sun
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i dunno what you mean by looking like the actual animal, but it's getting a new skin

night mountain
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I mean not being a straight up jurassic park raptor. Actual utah looked basically nothing like that at all, which is especially weird since austroraptor and most of the other species are decently accurate looking

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utah and velo are def the odd ones out

indigo sun
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utah's not keeping it's name, I dont think. I believe it'll be changed

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so it wont be utah for much longer, though when that'll come, I dont know

night mountain
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at least they kept it's wrists right though haha

jovial blade
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Rex is also similar to JP rex

golden shoal
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Ava please. Dryo doesn't need to be the only smol

night mountain
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agreed

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honestly eventually i hope all ai can breed, just so we can have the rogue nesting populations ava and the other sandbox species have

golden shoal
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I play Nycta, and we can be Ava there and nest. Baby Ava are super small.

night mountain
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haha yeah i was sitting with some a while back as a cama

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little specks

paper oriole
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ava and herrera would be a nice low-tier pair to add

urban stone
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A MISSED GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A G-O-D-Z-I-L-L-A EVENT

versed blaze
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Ehm

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We had one

urban stone
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so where's the godzilla in-game model?

versed blaze
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Hypo Rex

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And a Hypo-Rex on server

urban stone
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we're talking about a ~120 meter creature here but I'll take it

urban stone
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yeah i saw that

night mountain
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godzillas turning radius is trash, hypo rex could assride him to death easy

paper oriole
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Sad, you will be GLAD to hear that cerato is, in fact, still in the game dondiLUL

lilac swallow
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Seriously some people seems to suggest without having the game downloaded in their pc

paper oriole
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Right??

bright kiln
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really?

barren zephyr
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Wait what?

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Cerato was removed?

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@broken dawn

lilac swallow
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No It wasnt

tepid light
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maybe he playing on a server where they disabled it for whatever reasonpeepoNervous

paper oriole
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Or maybe he just didnt seerato it on the list dondiLUL

hasty parcel
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I guess it could be interpreted as them wanting to see Cerato buffed with "game" then meaning the competition

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but then they should make that more clear dondiLUL

paper oriole
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I was thinking that, but plain "buff X, nerf X" suggestions are also invalid without explanation

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Cera does need some bleed res help lol

grand brook
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hey guys guys

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check out feedback

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guys this is serious we need more ai

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because there's too little

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and so far away from you, and most importantly very silent

ebon lion
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ai is everywhere :( is this sarcasm

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please say sike

lilac swallow
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Love when people doesnt know the diference between feedback and suggestions, and even if stupid that was a suggestion

marble ether
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But ur talking in suggestion discussion rn and this is a general topic

grand brook
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@ebon lion woosh

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but yeah

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i don't know what they're on about

grand brook
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we already have that

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it's called f call

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you can use it as a contact call

barren zephyr
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f call legit has no purpose

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its the chat call

grand brook
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and a short range contact call

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for animals of different species

barren zephyr
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thats not exactly the same type of call im suggesting

grand brook
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make yourself clear by moving in a certain direction and doing the f call, most people will get it

barren zephyr
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most dont get it

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its just the chat call.
other players would think you were typing

indigo sun
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I've never seen f used in a "follow me" way
Most I've used it besides talking in chat is to get someone's attention

grand brook
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if you are moving at the same time you are doing it it's clear you are not typing

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improvise, adapt, overcome

barren zephyr
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ugh but a call made for leading other herbivores would be more accurate/clear and nice

grand brook
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so would mating calls, less agressive calls to indicate you are displeased but not angry...etc

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in fact those would be more necessary than a follow me

ashen wasp
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I thought i remembered hearing about certain calls playing whenever you typed certain phrases in to chat a while back as a far-off intended feature

indigo sun
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Dunno where you heard that

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I've never heard of this

grand brook
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me neither

ashen wasp
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lookin' for supporting evidence now, but i thought i saw it in a dev interview/youtube video a whiiiiiiile back

tepid light
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if it's that old and never mentionned it again, might have changed their mind

indigo sun
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I wouldn't trust things that were said once a long time ago. Chances are it was just a thought and got discarded. We would probably have heard more about it if it was anything more

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I'd say, at this point, unless you've got a clip or screenshot on hand for proof, I wouldn't say anything about a possible feature mentioned once offhand and never again, or mentioned by someone not a dev

ashen wasp
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yeah, that's fair

marble ether
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customizable horns are alread confirmed iirc

indigo sun
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When?

marble ether
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looong ago

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I'll try finding a clip of it

ashen wasp
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welcome to the club

lament thorn
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@hoary ocean Scars and missing limbs seems more like part of the combat system then customisation

still temple
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@hoary ocean ah yes, taking away a primary means of offence/defence is an excellent idea

pulsar lake
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What @broken dawn ?!
Cerato is in the game

blazing charm
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@vestal scroll The Juvenile Pachy model already looks like Stygimoloch or Dracorex

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The back of their head has the same kind sharp spikes, trying to find you a decent picture.

grand brook
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also keep in mind these are not necessarily the original dinosaurs we have fossils off, but recreated versions a la Jurassic Park

blazing charm
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Also what Zor said.

grand brook
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this reflects in how some of them look closer to the original creatures while others deviate more from the original form

indigo sun
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@wanton quail you expect them to implement shit immediately once its suggested?

elder swan
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@wanton quail what are you taking about? They already do

wanton quail
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nah m8 aint been an update for so long exept minor fixes

indigo sun
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Because theyre recoding thhe game

pale prairie
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cough RECODE cough

indigo sun
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Didnt you see the announcement where they're fixing the game's code cause it was fucked to shit?

elder swan
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if you take a look at the pinnd messages, you'l lsee tha they are taking some suggestions into serious consideration

pale prairie
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besides, you want proof they read the suggestions? the current weight system was suggested by a community member.

indigo sun
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I'll get the steam page thing for the recode

wanton quail
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bruh u guys are too protective its just my opinion now u guys are shiitin on me man

brittle bough
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devs: there will be a content drought while we recode the game
lads, moments later: WhY No ConTenT dEvS doNt cArE

indigo sun
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We're letting you know that the recode is why there's no updates currently. Dont expect any for a little while longer, too.

pale prairie
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sigh

indigo sun
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There's no "protectiveness" we're telling you stuff

wanton quail
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ok sorry m8 no need to bite me head of

indigo sun
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Everyone plays victim when someone tells them something, i swear

lilac swallow
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True

brittle bough
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lads: shit on the devs
people: dont shit on the devs
lads: oI maTe Im juSt havIn me OpinIon

elder swan
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just try not coming off so harsh. these des are working their asses off to getrid of all this buggy coding that doesnt even agree with itself, and we just gotta be patient.

pale prairie
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yeah, besides, it's not like we haven't seen any new content that will be coming with the recode.

wanton quail
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nalriot thanks for yeeses feedback il takeit ino consideration next tiom

brittle bough
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aye, theres a whooole bunch of previews of stuff if you pay attention to the twitch streams

elder swan
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oh yeah, all those streams that RRaptor's been doing

pale prairie
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stego, ptera.

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other things

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new map

indigo sun
brittle bough
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ah yeah, new and bigger map

pale prairie
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new system for bleed, bonebreak, health and stamina.

elder swan
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the basics of it was the original base code was written on a mixture of C++ and Blueprint, which sometimes don't agree with each other in the best of ways, so the devs have to translate the blueprint into C++, and sometimes the blueprints refers back to other portions of the blueprint which makes the whole process very tedious

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once the whole code is written in C++ it'll create a better foundation to implement new mechanics and better balance the game it'll also reduce the amount of latency, and give us better graphics

lilac swallow
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They bassicaly couldnt implement something without bugging other thing

elder swan
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^

indigo sun
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I think this is by far the nicest conversation i've seen with someone upset about the lack of content

lilac swallow
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And they had to wipe server each time they changed grow times thats why they didnt change some weird grows like pachy

still temple
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draco -> stygi -> pachy would've been cool

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but alas it's TI, so lower ur expectations

lilac swallow
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only if pachy had subadult which It doesnt

feral wedge
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@wanton quail They do go through suggestions occasionally. Don't troll the channel. Only warning.

wanton quail
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nah m8 i was just mindin me own business than yee guys came along loik nah m8 they wrokin on it and im all like nalroit soz m8 not gonna happen again

still temple
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dondiUhh why do you type like that

wanton quail
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whatareyoutalkintome?

compact coyote
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nah hes talking to everyone else currently not in this chat

feral wedge
brittle bough
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because he thinks hes the tf2 sniper, presumably

gaunt parcel
paper oriole
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Utah is faster than dilo and can jump out of reach, just don't get bit lmao

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As for friendly fire, that's the fault of an uncoordinated pack

lilac swallow
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All that is true, but i think utah could have a heal regen buff, being still a bad heal regen but a bit better

oblique sluice
#

I like the horrible bad heal regen for utah, that way even in a small pack should think twice before attacking a dilo who is venomous

vagrant crest
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Idt utahs shit heal is justified

paper oriole
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Its current heal is pretty sad, it is the cost of being able to leap out of range of attackers onto rocks, buildings etc i think

vagrant crest
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specially when seemingly every mid/small got a huge fall resist buff

brittle bough
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yeah it has the saddest heal and saddest limp, a hint that you shouldnt get hit to begin with

oblique sluice
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just carno on mid tiers

vagrant crest
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People get mad for utahs setting in spots for long periods of time > well yeah they have to spend days in game healing

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Meanwhile

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allo > 3 mins

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Dilo >10

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Galli which is comparable has shit heal

paper oriole
#

Allo and dilo cant jump onto safe spots

oblique sluice
#

higher growth times

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less agility

vagrant crest
#

10mins is negligible

paper oriole
#

Galli should be able to but its jump is pretty crap atm

vagrant crest
#

Carno and dilo got massive fall resist buffs

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oh utah can jump

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big deal

oblique sluice
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dilo deserved it

paper oriole
#

They can jump up onto elevated spots

vagrant crest
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The only reason they need to do that is because of their shit heal

paper oriole
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That require such a jump to access

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Exactly it balances out lol

vagrant crest
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Of course you're going to need to be able to get to safe spots

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You have to spend half your damn play time healing if you actually try to do anything

oblique sluice
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Then don't get hit

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you are a utah

paper oriole
#

Or dont get hit on one of the most agile dinos

oblique sluice
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choose your fights

vagrant crest
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Dilo is just about as agile

lilac swallow
#

people gets mad that utahs only sits on rocks

vagrant crest
#

has massive fall resists

oblique sluice
#

it's not

paper oriole
#

Uh

vagrant crest
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heals quick as shit

paper oriole
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Dilo is slower

oblique sluice
#

his turn is pretty worse too

vagrant crest
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No it's not

lilac swallow
#

same people say utah need a bad heal that encourages not fighting and siting on rocks

vagrant crest
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It's literally not

oblique sluice
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as i said, don't get hit then

vagrant crest
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^noob response when comparing it to every other small tier

paper oriole
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If you cant beat dilos just leave them alone and pick on sonething closer to your skill level, like a dryo lol

oblique sluice
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lmao

vagrant crest
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Right now dilo fills utahs niche easily and more

lilac swallow
#

Seriously you say utah need a bad healing that encourages them not fighting at all and at the same time you get mad if they indeed chose to sit on a rock

oblique sluice
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I don't care if they are in a rock healing 30 min

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i care about being in a rock 100% of the time nesting

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not the same thing

vagrant crest
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That's all they can do

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Come down from a rock

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get hit

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sit afk for 45mins

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That's some good gameplay

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don't get hit bro

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Fucking stupid argument

#

It's a good argument

#

When saying

oblique sluice
#

almost as stupid as being hit as utahdondiLUL

vagrant crest
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mid vs large

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but not small vs small

oblique sluice
#

dilo was supposed to fuck utah when it was added to survival

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now is 50/50

vagrant crest
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Cool story bro

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50/50 fight

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where one can sit for less then 10mins and resume gameplay and the other has to spend days healing

oblique sluice
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yeah and dilo has to risk because he is in the ground

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also isn't that fast

lilac swallow
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10 min on a bush is 0 Risk thats what juvies allways do

vagrant crest
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Watch me raise an apex on the ground with no issues

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Crazy

oblique sluice
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you know you can smell blood, right?

vagrant crest
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Watch me move my dilo up a mountain > because it can

lilac swallow
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And is not like that utahs has allways a rock to sit in when they are bleeding

vagrant crest
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Watch me fling my dilo off a 20ft drop with no broken leg > because it can

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yeah

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utah is sooo good

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oh wait

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Dilo is utah 2.0

dull jungle
#

has anyone else had issues fighting a giga with a broken leg but then they crouch and its almost like they dont have a penalty from a broken leg

vagrant crest
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They have to be crouching prior to their leg break for that to happen

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They still can't alt turn because of the leg break though

delicate depot
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👆

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That's what I meant

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Diclonius, the consequences of "opening more slots" is lag. But I hope that will change in the future and that we will be able to play on servers with many other players.

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:/

shell willow
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@hoary ocean I debated suggesting something like that a long time ago but yours sounds a lot better. My idea was for dilos to have sharper crests, maybe missing a crest (broken off), etc

lilac swallow
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@valid flower bone break is getting reworked and wont be random so no point on that

barren zephyr
#

that suggestion is dumb

valid flower
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@lilac swallow What do you mean

lilac swallow
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Literally what i meant

barren zephyr
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bb wont use %

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and will be more about hitting spots to activate it

valid flower
#

Hmm

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well we'll see

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after the recode.

umbral tartan
#

@paper oriole yes

paper oriole
#

yes?

indigo sun
#

Talkin about your broken leg suggestion I believe

paper oriole
#

ohh

edgy furnace
#

y e s

junior crow
#

why did everyone down vote the in game map feature? I think it would be very nice to have

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I'm genuinely curious

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I'm genuinely curious

agile whale
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I think it's just something that's generally looked at as hand-holding when we already have the compass as well as other landmarks to navigate by. Personally I don't care if we get an in-game map, I've seen one on Dondi's streams that the devs have access to or that he was just testing that once, and it wouldn't be so bad for new players helping them get used to the areas by first navigating to it and learning the landmarks along the way, but generally I think the viewpoint is keep the game as realistic as you can get. Animals do have natural compasses and such, but they certainly don't just know the land around them immediately.

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That's what I'm thinking anyways in no way do I speak for the general populace nor for people who are actually against the idea of an in-game map

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there's my disclaimer

junior crow
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Thanks man

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Appreciate the insight

violet magnet
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because this is a hARdCoRE sUrViVaL gAmE and people apparently loathe the idea of making it easier on new players

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or something

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i just know that whenever anyone complains about the maps being hard to figure out, they're bombarded with exclamations of "JUST LEARN THE MAP" and that's...not exactly helpful to someone who JUST started playing and has less than no idea where in the world they are, y'know?

mental sleet
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I mean, you could always have it so the map doesn't give you locations, but rather landmarks, and then you can triangulate your relative position

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doesn't give you your direct location*

violet magnet
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when i first started it was on region 2 without scent or footprint tracking, and i lost many a velo in progression because i didn't know where the fuck i was and i couldn't find an online map of region 2

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once i found the region 2 map and learned what landmarks to look for, THEN it was MUCH easier to actually learn where i was in the world and how to navigate, up to where i didn't even need a map

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without a map to look at it would've taken me wwaaaayyyy longer

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then there are those people who just cannot navigate for the life of them and need a map at hand at all times just to know up from down

verbal acorn
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Like my wife...she needs a map...and help catching AI, but that’s a separate subject.

night mountain
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Honestly an in game map is needed since the only people who don't use maps either dont know they exist or already know the map. Like why do people want the game so you need to tab out and input your coordinates into a website? The game even has a special feature making that easier so why not just have a map

marble ether
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I find it much more enjoyable to learn where you are and not have a cheat sheet

brittle bough
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as one who has no sense of direction, i find it more enjoyable to be able to go where i want to go and slowly phase out the necessity of the map; i had a significantly worse time when i was new vs after i discovered the interactive map lol, but im slowly coming to learn where stuff is, with the aid of the map.
blind exploration vs guiding map is a very subjective topic, alas, since it comes down to how an individual's mind and memory works, so i doubt there'll ever be an objectively correct choice. some people can't tell where they are even if they've accidentally found the beach 15 times, others pick up on landmarks quickly and remember them well.

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yes no map is realistic, yes wild animals have a significantly better and more natural sense of direction, but humans lack these things, and we are still human in the end. so i think adding a persistent compass (seriously, do birds forget which way is north when it rains?) at least, and possibly a basic/minimal map (landmarks and maybe lakes but not much else,) can emulate how an animal would naturally have this sense of direction and location. that's my thoughts on it, at least

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maybe have the map fill out as you go or something, and wipe it upon death, forcing you to explore to fill it out each time and maybe helping you remember where stuff is based on where you are located on the map.

lilac swallow
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Its true what tentacle said, we dont have an in Game map but devs have in discord a pinned message with a web that has the map

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Devs dont want us to have map and at the same time they provide us one?

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Doesnt make sense

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Just like the in game chat, It punishes you for using it by making your dino call, and at the same time devs provide you official server chats in discord

night mountain
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Also reminder you aren't forced to use a map if you don't want to either so

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yeah i never got rain taking away your compass, like that should still pop up even if smell stuff doesnt

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Even makes sense from a strict realism perspective. You're a dinosaur that's been living on a small island for months/years. You're going to know exactly where things are.

tepid light
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@night mountain compass get taken down by rain because they integrated it on the same UI as the highlight iirc thats the only reason it works that way

violet magnet
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@night mountain "Also reminder you aren't forced to use a map if you don't want to either so"

really tho

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if someone doesn't want to use an in-game map then idk just don't use it?

tepid light
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wouldn't I be at a disadvantage for not using the feature everyone else use tho?

night mountain
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Well maps are already there so you already are

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so, no change

tepid light
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(note that idc about map or not, just throwing an arguement out there peepoHappy5)

violet magnet
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like gamma cheats

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"everybody else is using it!"

night mountain
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i mean at least gamma is actual cheating and against rules

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browser maps are dev approved

tepid light
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fair point about the browser map tho

night mountain
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tbh id be surprised if we didnt have a map system after the recode

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we basically do already its just janky and inconvenient

violet magnet
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dondi's teased one in streams

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you press a button and a map overlay pops up with your current position marked with a waypoint

night mountain
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petition for when you use a map to have an animation of your dinosaur reading a roadmap

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alternatively, all dinosaurs now have waze and a smartphone

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except rex he doesnt get a map because arms are too small to read the screen

paper oriole
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oof corno too, he doesn't even have elbows

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no map for him

night mountain
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trike just has a big fold out roadmap impaled on all 3 horns

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you have the best view of the map but also can't see anything else at all, its a tradeoff

lilac swallow
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@covert oasis i dont really know but i think the cerato dance is actually coming as the "getting rid of pouncing uthas" animation

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Not sure but that what i think

covert oasis
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hopefully

tepid light
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if it's not a suggestion it means I can take it down since it shouldnt belong in the #general-feedback channel, right? @covert oasisdondiTroll

covert oasis
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i really dont care you do you lol

sleek mist
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Is this suitable for the suggestions channel?

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lol

indigo sun
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Whats the suggestion?

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I dont understand the point of the image. You cant just put a picture with no context or actual suggestion

blazing charm
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Yeah, there needs to be an actual suggestion behind it.

indigo sun
sick crescent
brittle bough
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@brazen wolf im tentatively engaging you to say bone break will be reworked to depend on bite location rather than rng percentage

glossy tangle
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yeah I hate when a rex clips ur tail and ur leg magically breaks

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as if you had a leg connected to your tail

lilac swallow
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All this is getting changed om recode no point on talking about it

glossy tangle
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yeah

glad remnant
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@brittle bough True, but most people already know to ass ride a trike. I’m suggesting maybe doing something a little more challenging so the Apex’s can’t just spam bite behind you and they’d actually have to fight you differently and coming at different angles and such. It’s just too easy to kill a trike honestly by just staying behind him

brittle bough
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isn't regional and varying damage gonna be a thing, making assriding less immediately viable since tail bites would be less damage? and to be fair trikes shouldn't be alone anyway, refer to the well-known protective circle of horns

lilac swallow
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recode Will bring colission

indigo sun
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I do want to point out slate, that trikes should not be group dependent so they dont die. That would make trike a shitty apex if it needs to be with other things to defend itseld

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*itself

brittle bough
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aye I know
also, dagaz, my suggestion wasn't related to yours, so I'm not even specifically talking about trike lol- not sure why you came up to me

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im not opposed to it getting it's defense buffed, if that's what you somehow picked up

glad remnant
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Oh my bad I thought you were replying to me lol, sorry about that.
Also, Ptera, I definitely agree with that

lilac swallow
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Relying in group just make people stop playing that therefore grouping becomes harder

brittle bough
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yes, indeed. i didn't want to debate trike viability and I agreed with giving it a defense buff.

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i was randomly forced into debating something I don't have the needed experience to debate on, so going on about how herbivores needing herds to survive is dumb after that point has already been made isnt needed. discuss the actual suggestions instead.

grand brook
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not too add more fire to the trike thing, but a dibble doesn't need a herd to fight 1v1 against an allo or a sucho

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neither should a trike

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against the other apexes

lilac swallow
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The slower/less stamina it has the strongest it should be

indigo sun
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this has already been established

grand brook
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true that

steady cosmos
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Lol a dibble 1v1 against sucho

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gl tryina survive that

grand brook
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to the utah heal thing, the one key thing it should be improved is it's bleed heal. It's a weak carnivore, but it should be able to handle bleed a bit better

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i have

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it's not easy but neither is it impossible

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and you can always run away

lilac swallow
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Midkil the thing is that dible can simply run away

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From sucho

steady cosmos
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When someone says 1v1 i usually think they mean a battle and not "im gonna run as soon as i can"

grand brook
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if possible i prefer not to engage with suchos as a dibble, but if cornered i will gore them and then run

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and if that fails they can spam altturn all they want, because even by just walking a dibble has an excellent turn

lilac swallow
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We are talking about viability and running away is part of that

steady cosmos
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viability is not getting caught at all

lilac swallow
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Therefore galli wouldnt be considered viable despite being able to out run everything

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Trike cant avoid getting caught thats why It need to be stronger

grand brook
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trike however doesn't even have the option of running

steady cosmos
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Trike isnt exactly weak

brittle bough
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it's butt is, evidently

lilac swallow
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Yeah It screws every mid tier but wait until an apex and trike is screwed

grand brook
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no, but it's relativelly easy to handle by both apexes, a giga can just bleed it to death and a rex can face tank it

brittle bough
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trike should be the one thing you can't face tank lol, it seems like that would be it's whole point

lilac swallow
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Not screwed too but when a trike sees an apex.the first thing It thinks is about what Dino to grow next

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Trike is a literal "face tank"

grand brook
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in real life a rex could face tank a trike sure...if it wanted to commit sepuku

lilac swallow
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Exactly

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In fact i think everyone should be discouraged of face tanking anyone else unless and obvious strength diference is in

grand brook
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"imma face tank this allo" some carno, probably

pulsar lake
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Ho hell

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Rex need bone break to imobilized his prey

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If he don't he can't survive

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And you should not go on a rex

lilac swallow
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Exactly levi

pulsar lake
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This will be rework when location damage will be done

lilac swallow
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Rex without bb is asking for either buffing It stam (which no one wants) or removing It (which is a no)

pulsar lake
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But when a rex will bite your back you will be paralized I think or something like that

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If rex don't have bone break so buff his damage, stam, run durationa dn ambush duration

vagrant crest
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Or just increasing it's damage

pulsar lake
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For one shot all mid tiers

waxen elk
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Oh boy here we go again

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The “buff le epik giga becos it no kil reckz” are coming back

grand brook
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Ah yes the "I want to kill rexes easily, even though it's very clear that the dinosaur I'm playing as is not meant to do that" is back

brittle bough
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today on lads ask "why doesnt the apex have an obvious natural counter!!"

odd gate
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aw shit here we go again

grand brook
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also from the author of "dilos keep killing me as a juvie and sub giga"

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me personally when I play dilo I prefer to wait until they are a monster that towers over me, can kill me with a single bite because of a huge amount of bleed AND damage and can turn in place like a ballerina on speed

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because i'm smart you see

wintry cipher
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suggester hates chance-based cc in rex bb
suggest chance-based cc in giga "shred"

🤔 I smell hypocrisy.

lilac swallow
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You smell bias

indigo sun
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@loud nimbus that isn't a suggestion.

loud nimbus
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oh

indigo sun
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I'd just buy it for $20 anyway, cause then you can support the game more

verbal acorn
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Giga vs Anky?

grand brook
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what about it?

jovial blade
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Utah can heal up on high places and be completely untouchable

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That's the trade off for having long heal times

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If they had fast heals they could go in and out of combat and it would be abused

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@glossy tangle

glossy tangle
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@jovial blade the problem is is that your not always near a high place so it's hard to say that and just that

jovial blade
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It has the ability to do that

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I think it's fair to have slow healing

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Because they can choose to stay near high places or run to them to go and heal

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@glossy tangle

glossy tangle
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But @jovial blade if you think about it, they don't have good health so it would balance it

jovial blade
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What ever cant one shot it, they should be able to go and heal

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You have the option to heal in safety most of the time

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I havent seen utahs hunting not far from a rock in ages

lilac swallow
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They simply dont hunt far from a rock because far from they are dead if they get hit therefore the "It can sit on rock so It need a bad heal" encourages them to do the so hated sitting on a rock most of the time

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And a bad healing doesnt need to be 4 times slower than a normal one

umbral tartan
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Good idea @indigo sun

indigo sun
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Thank you

elder swan
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Per my message in #401481402782056460 @primal copper the "hitboxes" are a latency issue that will be fixed with the recode

primal copper
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I hope so

finite perch
junior crow
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@verbal acorn and @indigo sun sorry for the ping but I have to say that your most recent suggestions about theropod combat and burrowing were amazing and could add so much to The Isle!

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Both ideas have outstanding potential!

formal vine
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But when was that video @finite perch

finite perch
torpid wedge
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diseases are confirmed to not be a thing

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@subtle adder

subtle adder
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wait, did i make a suggestion about that?

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cause i dont remember

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@torpid wedge

torpid wedge
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yes

subtle adder
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can you respost it?

torpid wedge
subtle adder
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oh

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ty

dull jungle
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anyone else think cerato should be just a bit smaller than an allo but around the same size

torpid wedge
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yeah i remember hearing dondi say something about how it would be pointless to grow to adulthood and survive only to die/be hindered to a random disease out of your control

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like being sick from overeating is different

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because it’s self inflicted

subtle adder
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being sick?

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oh

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i read that wrong

torpid wedge
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yeah arent you gonna like vomit up your food

subtle adder
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i though you meant that being sick is self inflicted

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i didnt see the overheating part

torpid wedge
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nop

subtle adder
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that would be okay, but yeah i see how i was off from the diseases

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Id like different effects for sickness depending on what caused it

dull jungle
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wait theyre gonna make it so you can get sick

subtle adder
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Its a possiblity

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but not confirmed

dull jungle
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what do yall think about making cerato a bit bigger

finite perch
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wouldnt affect my enjoyment of the game and would require some decent legwork to make the animation and speed match with the new size

paper oriole
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cerato in isle is already bigger than its irl findings tbh i dont think it'd be necessary, just buff his defenses a bit

umbral tartan
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@lethal wren boi thats called afternoon to evening

lethal wren
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I know.

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But Fix the GOD DAMN LIGHT.

night mountain
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Why would they make giga look emaciated ad dehydrated

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that carcharo looks like its on the verge of death lmao

lethal wren
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The Giga looks Good to Me.

barren zephyr
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looks fucking shit

lethal wren
grand brook
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ok so what is wrong with the Isle's giga model ?

still temple
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@swift moon how about no

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and it's not even a giga

violet magnet
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get that thing a sandwich, Jesus Christ

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so skinny

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why is it standing on its tippy-toes tho

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like a ballerina

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that just looks painful

swift moon
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?

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is the family of giga @still temple

grand brook
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and?

swift moon
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the sucho have the spino

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the rex have the alberto

grand brook
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if there's going to be a carcharo

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it will not look like that

swift moon
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is the species more big of the family of carcharodon

grand brook
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and?

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this seems like the tarbosaurus argument all over again

swift moon
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?

grand brook
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just because a dinosaur exists doesn't mean it will it will end up in the game, specially one that is so similar to an already existing one, in this case we already have the giga so adding the carcharo seems redundant

swift moon
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the rex is and spino are the more powerfull the reason jurasick park fans and the movie is a disaster i prefert the discovery and national geo documentals

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the documentary dinosaurs are more real

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all the people see movies but the movies are more fiction

grand brook
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the hell does that even mean? the rex and the spino are real dinosaurs that have appeared in documentaries aswell

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what even is the argument here?

swift moon
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but the spino is a fisher to weak and slow same the sucho and the rex no is to powerfull

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the bite of the rex is more powerfull

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the spino in apex need under the giga and the rex need be the more powerfull

grand brook
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spino as of now is not a balanced dinosaur, but it will be once it's added to survival along with a new model and different playstyle