Why not @pulsar lake dillo could kill Rex
#general-feedback-discussion
brittle bough
new suggestion, tear it apart now
brazen wolf
if there is a pack thy should be able to kill it
brazen wolf
i said 2 Rex should be ablt to Kill a Hypo Rex
lilac swallow
no fucking point on getting an hypo if you are allways starving AND have chances of getting killed
pulsar lake
No
lament thorn
I dont really have an opinion on the new suggestion
brittle bough
dammit
indigo sun
I like that, Slate. It would make it harder to grow larger animals by doing nothing. And it would definitely lower the apex populations if afk growers arent as good as a person who puts effort in
versed blaze
I think it's time to let this go
pulsar lake
And an hypo is 1 week
versed blaze
Getting nowhere................
pulsar lake
So more than 100 hours
brazen wolf
ok i Rest my case Rip
versed blaze
@brittle bough Affinity system you mean?
brittle bough
fair enough lol
pulsar lake
168 hours an hypo
brazen wolf
Rip all The 6 hour dino
versed blaze
I'm asking, because that's coming
indigo sun
Levi, let it go
brittle bough
oh my god?
lament thorn
WAIT
lament thorn
oh wow
pulsar lake
Or you will be not able to get evolution
lilac swallow
slate, i like the idea but first i think juvies should be actually playable like rex's lifecycle
pulsar lake
Rex not cannibal
brazen wolf
affinity system would suck for giga players
pulsar lake
brazen wolf
we love to hide in bush
lilac swallow
why?
versed blaze
You can still be stagnant but there will probably be a penalty
lament thorn
Little sad about not cannibalising
pulsar lake
Giga is a migrator
indigo sun
For sure. Younger stages should be fun and make it so people wouldnt be upset they cant hide in a bush
indigo sun
Some dinosaurs should be allowed to cannibals, i think
pulsar lake
I think some dinosaurs should be cannibal like carno, allo, Cera, rex
lament thorn
I think apexes should be able to get away with it
pulsar lake
Or like tiger
lament thorn
but like utahs and allos have a penalty
pulsar lake
After they can eat babys apex
brazen wolf
and need to hide
lilac swallow
why not make juv and sub giga viable?
pulsar lake
When you are young
versed blaze
No exceptions, no subsititutions
pulsar lake
But adult you move
brittle bough
i believe it was said they are so slow because they can bully other juvies easily if they get close
brazen wolf
Have you seen Juvi and sub Giga run
pulsar lake
Oh that suck no cannibalism with juv
brazen wolf
they look pityfull
pulsar lake
For some species
lament thorn
oof
brittle bough
and also to balance their speed as adults
pulsar lake
I have seen
brittle bough
but it is fairly boring lol
lament thorn
hope that doesnt stop people from killing each other
brazen wolf
levi sub giga not strong until late stage
pulsar lake
3.2 tonnes
brazen wolf
if a dillo or allo see you you dead
lament thorn
ive witnessed too many apexes walk into each other, scream a few times then both walk away
lilac swallow
sub giga strength is actually progressive not like the stat sheet says
brittle bough
neither apex wants to lose theirs lmao
indigo sun
Giga should be a bit better to grow so players arent encouraged to hide so much
pulsar lake
He can kill everything when you are full size
lilac swallow
obviously a sub cant kill an adult apex
brazen wolf
Rex will wreck Giga
pulsar lake
It's normal than sub giga can't kill a full grown Trike or Rex lmao
brazen wolf
am talking abut fully grown Giga
brazen wolf
not sub . sub cant even fight dillo
lilac swallow
sub giga is actually stronger than sub rex, just way slower
pulsar lake
Sub Rex and giga break out allosaurus
brazen wolf
Mabe a small allo?
brazen wolf
Rex are much strong
lilac swallow
sub giga is stronger than sub rex
brazen wolf
i wrecked 2 sub giga as a full grown Allo
with easy
just waited for it to bleed out
pulsar lake
They are not full
lilac swallow
pls, exit from your bubble
spiral pond
They get a massive buff at the last tick of growth
pulsar lake
A full sub giga kill an allosaurus in 4 bite
pulsar lake
They weren't full
brazen wolf
they were pretty big
lilac swallow
mini, the "last tick" massive buff is actually false
pulsar lake
At 99% you are a lot weaker than 100%
lilac swallow
sub giga gain strenght progressively
viral creek
The only reason sub giga and juvi giga are slow is because they don't have exclusive animations.
brazen wolf
animation is good
viral creek
Hopefully a lot of juveniles get their own locomotion
brazen wolf
they look like they launcing
lilac swallow
juv/subs just need exclusive animations
pulsar lake
His animation are horrible for sub rex
lilac swallow
thats not the point pachy was trying to bring but ok
brazen wolf
no it's not i love it
pulsar lake
I hate it
brazen wolf
it looks like it's running
pulsar lake
I want a rework
viral creek
Why does this matter?
brazen wolf
it's kind of wonkey
pulsar lake
And he is not fat
viral creek
That's besides the point. The reason sub giga and juv giga need new anims is so they can give him a faster run speed without him looking ridiculous.
pulsar lake
I hope all sub, juvi will have there own animation
brazen wolf
could we lower Adult Rex speed?
pulsar lake
No
lilac swallow
gulpy they like losing the point
pulsar lake
He don't have stam
viral creek
I saw
brazen wolf
am more worried about adult Rex speed
viral creek
He talks about nothing but giga
brazen wolf
it's too fast
brazen wolf
i talk about Rex too
pulsar lake
Rex is pretty good
still temple
all life stages should have unique locomotion anims
pulsar lake
Ik
brazen wolf
ok well i think rex speed show chill around 31
viral creek
Why are we talking about rex speed now.
brazen wolf
it's too much for now
lilac swallow
well we can just delete rex
still temple
ye
pulsar lake
still temple
viral creek
Rex is actually fine. He's fast but his stamina sucks, and he cannot catch anything unless it's in a close range. There's a reason most rex packs hunt other rexes. It's because they're too noisy to actually hunt down anything but rexes.
brazen wolf
why @lilac swallow you hate to see rex slow down
lilac swallow
i hate unbalancing
viral creek
I shit you not. I literally escaped a rex as a trike because I saw him first.
pulsar lake
Before Rex was 28
lilac swallow
and rex is the most balanced apex
lilac swallow
because it wont catch shit
viral creek
His speed isn't really insane
brazen wolf
insane bite
viral creek
He's slower than allo
pulsar lake
bb is his only chance to kill
lilac swallow
having by far the worst stamina
pulsar lake
He can't do something without bone break
lilac swallow
ha
pulsar lake
He can
brazen wolf
Stamina is decent
pulsar lake
With bleed
viral creek
Why do you always turn everything into rex vs giga?
lilac swallow
giga can call EVERYTHING
pulsar lake
And his trot
viral creek
Let me repeat again
brazen wolf
and it's difficult for me to survive
pulsar lake
Yea me too
brazen wolf
because Rex is too fast
pulsar lake
I've survived 2 week in official
viral creek
I escaped rexes as t r i k e s. On m u l t i p l e occasions. Because I saw him first.
Do you know how slow a trike is?
lilac swallow
if TRIKE can run away GIGA will do it
pulsar lake
You can
lilac swallow
uncle, seriously "git gud"
viral creek
If I escaped as a trike, you can escape as a giga
pulsar lake
Omg
brazen wolf
you know how slow is trike
pulsar lake
HELP US
brazen wolf
rex will catch you trotting
pulsar lake
Uhh
lilac swallow
rex trot is shit
pulsar lake
Giga have the better trot
viral creek
He can't really
lilac swallow
gioga trot is as fast as trike run
pulsar lake
Of all carnivore
indigo sun
Rex is meant to do a lot of raw damage. To compensate for this, it is fast for a very short period of time. Once its stamina runs out, it must sit to regen stamina. Its bone break allows it to keep prey close by to kill it without needing to regen stamina.
Giga does a lot of bleed and actually does a lot of damage too for some reason. It has significantly more stamina, a very fast trot, and can regen stamina while trotting. It also has an incredibly fast alt turn which allows it to defend itself very well against everything aside from rex
viral creek
He'll get bored and give up cause his trot is painfully average
lilac swallow
what game do you play?
viral creek
But he doesn't need it
brazen wolf
why you cry so much
indigo sun
Its fast because its an ambush predator
viral creek
Because it's unnecessary
brazen wolf
giga is ambush predator too
lilac swallow
uncle you here are the only guy craying
pulsar lake
No
indigo sun
Giga is an endurance predator, meant to run fast, not for a log time
lilac swallow
giga ambush?
pulsar lake
Giga is not an ambusher
indigo sun
*long
viral creek
Rex is actually more balanced then he had ever been in the entirety of the game, and you want to change it?
pulsar lake
He is a tracker
brazen wolf
i speak for giga players
indigo sun
You are not playing giga right if youre an ambusher
pulsar lake
Giga is a tracker
versed blaze
Gigas aren't ambushers
pulsar lake
After 500 giga hours
indigo sun
Giga is meant to bleed out prey
versed blaze
That's Rex job
lilac swallow
uncle, levi heres play giga too
pulsar lake
Giga is make to bleed out and follow his prey
brazen wolf
or Increase giga speed 2 km
viral creek
You're not very good at giga
indigo sun
You get a good bite in, and then keep your prey on the move until it dies from bleed
brazen wolf
if you dont like to see Rex lower 2km
pulsar lake
Giga don't need it
lilac swallow
giga is the isle god
pulsar lake
And Rex don't need it
brazen wolf
tell me can Giga fight Rex1v1?
viral creek
I don't want rex, or giga speed touched.
lilac swallow
is a literall balance nightmare
brazen wolf
can giga face tank Rex?
viral creek
Yes, if he gets the jump on him
indigo sun
Giga doesnt need to be made faster with its goddamn stamina regen and the fact that its only bad match up is rex
viral creek
Giga can facetank the rex if he gets the jump on him and gets a few bites first.
lament thorn
what are you guys talking about now?
indigo sun
Stop basing your balance on how well you fight a rex. Giga isnt meant to fight rex. It is meant to endure rex
viral creek
Which isn't hard. Giga has a very fast bite speed.
pulsar lake
Rex and giga speed @lament thorn
viral creek
Uncleraptor likes to divert every topic into rex vs giga
indigo sun
Giga kills everything besides rex and a smart trike
brazen wolf
no he cant Pachy Rex will turn around and still kill him
viral creek
Yes he can
lilac swallow
uncle, when you stop considering this game a fighting game we talk
viral creek
If i can do it on multiple occasions, you can too
lilac swallow
rex turn is slow as shit
brazen wolf
this game is just eating ai?
viral creek
Rex has a poor alt turn speed, you have a very fast bite speed
lilac swallow
alt tuirn*
pulsar lake
Giga have a better turn
brazen wolf
and growing dino?
lilac swallow
this game is surviving
indigo sun
@brazen wolf why are you basing giga's balance on something it isn't meant to fight?
lilac swallow
and surviviving means running away if you cant win
brazen wolf
surviving means fighting or running
lament thorn
in my short life time ive seen more rexes scared of gigas then the other way round
lilac swallow
and giga can run
brazen wolf
so giga cant run away or fight Rex
indigo sun
Giga is not meant to kill rex. Giga kills every mid and low tier with ease. Rex can be killed by smaller dinosaurs and giga's only bad matchup is rex
viral creek
Yes he can
viral creek
He can outstam him and get away. Or he can kill a rex if he gets the ambush on him.
brazen wolf
or any other apex
pulsar lake
Rex kill apex and big mid tier
indigo sun
Get some brains then talk
brazen wolf
Giga Is a Apex
pulsar lake
Giga kill all mid tier and sauropod
viral creek
Nobody told him that, this is based on gameplay exprience
Giga deletes every mid tier
brittle bough
wat
pulsar lake
And he can
lilac swallow
apexes doenst need to fightother apexes
pulsar lake
Giga have a chance to rex
indigo sun
Apexes do not need to fight other apexes when they can easily go after other dinosaurs
pulsar lake
They can go one other territory
indigo sun
You are making asinine claims with no basis for them
pulsar lake
And more adapted to them
viral creek
I'm gonna say it one more time
lilac swallow
GIGA IS THE LITERAL BEST DINO IN GAME
brazen wolf
not against Rex
viral creek
One more time:
If other people can fight rexes, or escape rexes as gigas on MULTPLE occasions. YOU CAN TOO.
brazen wolf
There is too many Rex
indigo sun
If youre basing balance on one bad matchup, you need to reevaluate shit
lilac swallow
is not an against
brazen wolf
a noob Rex player could kill a pro giga player
pulsar lake
Allo>dilo>giga> other dino
viral creek
No he can't
pulsar lake
No
indigo sun
Not if the giga player is smart and starts moving before rex is within range to catch it
viral creek
I'd really hate to break it to you
pulsar lake
Giga fuck up this noob
brazen wolf
Giga need to stay away from Rex
lilac swallow
as it should be
brazen wolf
but the thing is they hunt in the same jungle
pulsar lake
Yes
viral creek
But you should stop playing giga, cause from the looks of it. You don't know how to utilize his power whatsoever.
pulsar lake
No
brazen wolf
and eat the same eva
viral creek
Go play allo or something
lilac swallow
giga doesnt hunt on jungles
lilac swallow
plains?
brittle bough
both of them hunt in meadows lol
viral creek
Giga is incredibly adaptable
brittle bough
u high fam
viral creek
Rex isn't
pulsar lake
Giga = open area and eat midtiers/sauropods
Rex = Forest and eat apex and big midtier
brazen wolf
or give giga 850 bite
viral creek
n o
pulsar lake
NO
brazen wolf
like before
brittle bough
why
pulsar lake
NO
brazen wolf
so it cant run
brazen wolf
so what you expet it has to fight
pulsar lake
Giga so broken with this damage
lilac swallow
uncle read a little, GIGGA CAN RUN
pulsar lake
Giga can fight Rex
pulsar lake
Or espace to him
viral creek
Uncle do you know how many times people have said that he can run, and provided you with proper explanations
pulsar lake
BONE BREAK FOR REX IS A GOOD THING
viral creek
Or are you only hearing what you want to hear
brazen wolf
giga cant run away from Rex
indigo sun
Honestly at this point, stop engaging him. He'll keep whining and crying until the end of time because he doesn't understand his dinosaur.
pulsar lake
He can
brazen wolf
there is too many of em and they hunt in the same jungle
lilac swallow
uncle seriously stop playing this game
viral creek
Then don't hunt in the jungle
brazen wolf
well i think you all fan boy of Rex
viral creek
I'm not rex fanboy, I play pachy
brazen wolf
so many Rex fan it's rediculous
lilac swallow
"fan boy rex"
brazen wolf
cant see rex op bb
viral creek
But of course, whenever you're wrong it has to go to "rex fanboy"
brittle bough
you do know what apex predators are right
animals without natural predators
why are you so insistently screaming that the giga and rex have natural predators in the form of each other
there is more to the game than rex vs giga
brittle bough
good for you, avoid rexes then if you can't handle them
indigo sun
Shut the fuck up and play a rex for once. Everyone else should stop engaging him because he'll only go in circles like an idiot and waste your time
lilac swallow
uncle, play rex, if you catch something tell me
brittle bough
^ me too
oblique dust
are you honestly asking for giga buffs lol
brazen wolf
i Played Rex too many time
it's kind of boring because its so o
op
i can kill any thing that moves
brittle bough
are you sure about that lmao
brazen wolf
and iplay solo
indigo sun
What part of dont engage do yall not understand. He's dragging you around in circles and he wont learn from this
brazen wolf
only thing that can kill me is a bunch of Rex
viral creek
Let's talk for a second.
-I don't like bb, but it's being reworked so who cares.
-Rex really isn't that fast, his base speed is slower than allo and only lasts 30 seconds. The speed gap between giga and rex isn't big at all.
-Rexes ambush is REALLY fast, but it only lasts 6 seconds. He also has to again molmentum because he gains full speed.
Rex is not op.
oblique dust
giga is the game's biggest balance nightmare outside of shant, once it sees a decent number of good buffs it becomes absolutely fucking broken and completely ruins the ecosystem
pulsar lake
And the most broken dinosaurs of all time
oblique dust
it's the carnivore version of shant even though people don't want to admit it
viral creek
Literally all giga needs is an alt turn nerf
pulsar lake
But we are in The Isle
viral creek
Then he might be okay for once
brittle bough
alright well, uncle, tell you what. ill stop engaging, but do me a favor and play rex. ping me each time you kill a player, not an ai, a player.
pulsar lake
And we need to balance thing
lilac swallow
and dmg nerf too gulpy
viral creek
Yeah that too
brazen wolf
pachy 6 second 40 km per hour
pulsar lake
Nerf pachy
brazen wolf
you can reach a long distance
pulsar lake
No
lilac swallow
uncle, learn some maths too
viral creek
I literally escaped a rex as a trike, while rex was using his ambush because the timespan he had to ambush was so short.
brazen wolf
where can ou reach
pulsar lake
30 second Rex run
viral creek
We're not basing this off map, we're basing it on gameplay expirence.
pulsar lake
To 33
lilac swallow
viral creek
And I have had 0 issues with rex being op as literally any animal
viral creek
And look at the distance between rex and giga
oblique dust
the problem with giga isn't the effect or weaknesses it has on other apexes, but the overwhelming dominance it has over mid-tiers
lilac swallow
"but rex is op"
viral creek
If you are both ambushing cause you see him first, you don't need to be far at all to get away
lilac swallow
you saw giga?
brazen wolf
it's easily enought to cath giga
viral creek
He did.
oblique dust
many mid tiers can outrun a rex, they can't outrun a giga
viral creek
But look how little he ran compared to everybody else
lilac swallow
we have here a direct evidence and still say rex runs a lot of distance?
indigo sun
Youre being shown evidence and literally denying it as evidence
pulsar lake
Everything except Sucho and Trike can out run Rex
lilac swallow
are you fuvcking serious?
pulsar lake
You see it run
lilac swallow
compare to fucking giga and everyone else
brazen wolf
it run like a horse
viral creek
It's not little. But it's little compared to everything else
brazen wolf
Rex will catch it before it can run taht much
oblique dust
bro lol
lilac swallow
its a fucking battleship, is hard to not see it
oblique dust
really
viral creek
Let's also observe the distance between rex and giga at the end of both ambushes
indigo sun
Please stop denying the shit getting shoved in your face
viral creek
You don't need to be that far at all as a giga to gain enough distance to get away. All you need to do is see him first.
oblique dust
giga is supposed to get fucked over by rexes, it's called game balance
indigo sun
Like, the proof is right there. People are explaining it to you. And yet youre refusing to accept it
brazen wolf
well that speed comparision does not impress me
lilac swallow
without offending but i have a literall authistic cousing who gets things better
brazen wolf
Rex willstill catch giga before giga could run that much
pulsar lake
Please Dondi god help us
viral creek
Cause you don't know your own dinosaur
oblique dust
so basically you don't actually care about hard evidence, facts or true balance, you just want your favorite dino to be broken as fuck.
pulsar lake
Your not at 1 meters
lilac swallow
even if it is actually broken
brazen wolf
well Rex is broken
that is a huge track
so cant tell much there
try in actual map
i plyed Rex so i know what am talking about
spiral pond
the only thing broken or rex is that bone break is RNG
pulsar lake
Rex is the most balanced dinosaur in the game
lilac swallow
uncle pls shut
pulsar lake
Bone break is good
lilac swallow
you dont deserve to keep talking
viral creek
Alright uncle
indigo sun
When was the last time you played rex
brazen wolf
when it breaks your leg on 1 hit
viral creek
I have some solid evidence for you
lilac swallow
he doesnt care gulpy
pulsar lake
You can give it good speed, good damage but no Bone break it will be like anky
Big
Poop
brittle bough
Uncle, if you're so aware of Rex's flaws and how it's broken, what are gigas flaws outside of when against Rex
oblique dust
I reeeeeaaaally don't want to say that I feel like you're just trolling at this point, but I have to say that yes, it does feel like you're trolling at this point.
viral creek
@brazen wolf
Here is a screenshot from the speed comparison video. This takes place right before rex runs out of stamina while ambushing. Keep in mind, giga still has his ambush.
pulsar lake
Rex without bone break is shit as fuck
viral creek
Wow huge difference
lilac swallow
rex is meant to kill you if it gets you
spiral pond
bone break as mechanic is ok, but it shoudnt be RNG
brazen wolf
that's when Rex stops
brazen wolf
no it's not
viral creek
Yes it is
brittle bough
I hope when regional damages added bonebreak will require you to bite the legs or hips
viral creek
I took the screenshot I know when I took it
pulsar lake
Go watch again the video
oblique dust
I haven't played the game in over a month, so maybe you think rex's hitbox is broken instead? IDK
brazen wolf
that's a huge track
lilac swallow
unfun he just is a giga biased player
viral creek
This isn't about how fast rex can run. This is about the comparison between rex ambush vs giga ambush
pulsar lake
You say than this video, taken by admin and official, is a track?
oblique dust
@lilac swallow yeah that's what I figured, but still
pulsar lake
Did you are dumb?
brittle bough
i asked him to talk about any giga flaws outside of vs rex and he ignored me lmao
lilac swallow
giga doesnt have flaws
sick crescent
What be going on here
lilac swallow
azure, pls help us
brazen wolf
giga is the slowerst dino in the game
pulsar lake
Uncle say Rex is op
sick crescent
Giga having flaws with his stats?
pulsar lake
And giga big shit
oblique dust
biased giga player thinks giga is underpowered lmao
sick crescent
Hah
brazen wolf
it's juvi and sub is gabage
brittle bough
uncle says giga should be buffed or rex should be nerfed
lilac swallow
i need to study but this is more important
sick crescent
So?
pulsar lake
But they are balanced between them
jovial moss
trike is the slowest survival dino not giga
brazen wolf
giga is free burger to Rex
sick crescent
Yes it can lmao
brittle bough
uncle, uncle, I said flaws outside of vs rex
oblique dust
giga's juvie and sub stages are garbage to make up for its OP adult stage.
viral creek
Here we go again.
Here is a screenshot from the speed comparison video. This takes place RIGHT BEFORE rex runs out of stamina while ambushing. Keep in mind, giga still has his ambush. The difference in distance isn't big whatsoever. Giga can escape if he has even a tiny bit of distance.
sick crescent
Rumors
pulsar lake
It's one of the most balanced fight
lilac swallow
uncle arent you tired of repeaiting yourslef? im surely tired
brazen wolf
no am not legender
indigo sun
No one will ever agree with you that giga should fight rex
lilac swallow
i see uncle
brazen wolf
i have to say it loud to get into your thick head
sick crescent
Uncle, Giga is a literal perfectionist right now.
brazen wolf
and Rex bs
indigo sun
Get over yourself and play something else instead of whining like a little fuckin bitch
brazen wolf
you are the Bitch
viral creek
0k no name calling
brazen wolf
want a op broken Rex
jovial skiff
🍿
pulsar lake
viral creek
Let him be wrong in peace
sick crescent
Op broken Rex?
pulsar lake
Rex is good
sick crescent
Triceratops still exists
jovial moss
Giga just needs to fit its role better. Instead of "practically invincible brawler but is crippled by rex" being its thing
oblique dust
I usually don't get very mad with the discord discussions or balance discussions around here but this one's genuinely making me pretty mad lol
sick crescent
Rex isn’t broken when it has a lot of shit that can kill it.
brittle bough
@brazen wolf without factoring in nor comparing to rex, what are gigas flaws. if you say none, that means giga is perfect except for one counter.
brazen wolf
giga juvi and sub sucks
pulsar lake
It's not because you are fast than you are broken with bone break
oblique dust
because it's supposed to suck.
viral creek
Giga can run
brazen wolf
cannot fight his opponent
sick crescent
Have you seen Giga’s trot?
pulsar lake
He can too
brittle bough
juvi and sub are shit to balance it's op adult form. discuss it's adult form.
viral creek
If a trike can escape a rex on multiple occasions, a giga can too.
I'm sorry but...
you suck at giga
brazen wolf
Giga is super slow compared to Rex
sick crescent
Giga isn’t Trike
oblique dust
if giga had op juvie and sub stages, then you'd see a fuckload of adult gigas completely decimating the ecosystems of entire servers.
pulsar lake
You are bad giga
brittle bough
tut tut!
pulsar lake
Only solution
brazen wolf
so it cannot run
brittle bough
I said no rex.
brazen wolf
it cannot fight
sick crescent
Trike is 25 km/h, Giga is 30, Rex is only 33
indigo sun
I'll repeat what i said earlier. Do not engage him. He doesn't understand balance beyond his bias and misunderstand of balance. Continuing to argue only wastes time and it wont get you anywhere. He won't listen to anyone who disagrees with him. I'd say give up and let him bitch about imaginary problems he made up in his head.
oblique dust
they'd over-populate extremely quickly.
viral creek
The speed difference between giga and rex isn't big at all
pulsar lake
Everything can escape of rex
brazen wolf
pterandon you are the idiot here
pulsar lake
You are just blind
brazen wolf
dont act smart
jovial skiff
Okay wow
brazen wolf
you dum
viral creek
a 3km/h distance isn't huge.
indigo sun
Get fucked
oblique dust
a giga is not supposed to facetank a rex, ever
jovial skiff
name calling shows how inmature now you guys
indigo sun
Go cry yourself to sleep
sick crescent
Now Trike’s is way more massive
jovial moss
If you're blind and close enough to get caught by a rex, then you deserve to get killed by it...
brittle bough
yeah okay he actually can't discuss things outside of vs rex. so giga is perfect except it can be killed by one thing. avoid the one fucking thing and get over it, uncle
lilac swallow
im starting to thing uncle is a bot with programmed responses
viral creek
And he immediately diverts it to rex speed
oblique dust
lel
oblique dust
he isn't wrong.
brazen wolf
useless to discuss with stupid
viral creek
Go play allo
brazen wolf
hve your op Rex
lilac swallow
wow now we are insulting?
viral creek
I don't want an op rex tho
indigo sun
Youre right. It is useless to discuss with you.
lilac swallow
should we call a moderator?
torpid wedge
galli turn radius monkaW
viral creek
I like to keep my balanced rex
brittle bough
as a side note, alt turning is still so foreign to me because i first started playing on Isla nublar, where alt turning is disabled lmao
oblique dust
peeps let it go, Uncle's probably a kid just move on.
brazen wolf
i rest my case Rip Giga
indigo sun
Honestly do give up on this. He wont listen
jovial moss
If giga got buffed in any way, it would literally become untouchable, that isn't the solution to what you're complaining about at all UncleRaptor
pulsar lake
Can you stop please uncle
umbral prairie
'rip the most viable apex'
pulsar lake
We have proof than it's balanced
indigo sun
Stop fuckin talking to him
sick crescent
pulsar lake
And giga can escape it
sick crescent
Yeah that was massive flamebait
indigo sun
If you stop responding, he wont have anyone to go in circles with
oblique dust
growing an apex was never supposed to be EZ mode anyway
brazen wolf
iCantVoiceMyOpenion?
pulsar lake
Yes
brazen wolf
amHelpingThecCommunity
lilac swallow
giga being op isnt a opinion is a fact
viral creek
Your opinion dosen't matter when it comes to giving the most overpowered animal in the game, even more advantages.
jovial moss
You can voice it, but if it's not going to help the game or your suggestion would make the game worse then we're allowed to shoot it down
brittle bough
wait a minute, wasn't earlier he whining about losing a rex to a hypo and putting rex on this pedestal, now he's bitching that rex is broken? so he does actively play this 'broken mess' lol
pulsar lake
But we say fact and proof
oblique dust
because once the juvie and sub adult stages become EZ mode for apexes, they start to overpopulate and destroy entire server ecosystems in turn.
pulsar lake
With gameplay
oblique dust
I take it that Uncle wasn't around when the Chinese mega pack issues were a thing
unborn quail
@brittle bough Welcome to the community, that's basically all balance talk is between those two
brittle bough
lmao
thorny lynx
Giga does not need a damage buff =.= it needs a nerf.
jovial moss
Though this makes me wonder, if rex and giga had the same base run speed how would that affect them? like say they both ran at 30 km/h?
viral creek
I'm getting bored of the rex vs giga argument, because it doesn't need to be argued.
copper geode
walks out of portal
pulsar lake
No buff and no nerf for it
indigo sun
Continuing to argue gets us nowhere. Give up on this.
odd idol
unborn quail
Giga has nothing to fear at that point
copper geode
Another rex vs giga argument?
umbral prairie
let's wait for spino, then we have 3 apexes that are both op and way too weak at the same time
viral creek
yep
indigo sun
Give up. Stop engaging him. Leave it
viral creek
we were talking about unique anims for juvi and he instantly diverts it to rex speed lol
sick crescent
If Giga has nearly the same dps as a Trike, I sense issues already.
oblique dust
the apex carnivore trifecta is supposed to play out like rock-paper-scissors, or so that what I'm suspecting it'll be
unborn quail
Makes the most sense
sick crescent
Giga v Rex is kinda dumb to argue about, we have the opinion of the fight from the game’s director.
jovial moss
spino don't care about your rex bite force boi he gon slap your teeth off with his chad arms
copper geode
So uhhhh
sick crescent
Spino is big muscle strong man
copper geode
We supposed to be suggesting a discussion?
pulsar lake
Giga kill Rex because he have bleed and Rex have not a good bleed resistance, spino kill giga because he have a big weight mass and good bleed resistance, Rex kill spino with his massive damage
copper geode
Because it looks like the beaches of Normandy here
umbral prairie
I think rex will have the upper hand against both giga and spino, since Dondi said spino will lose to rex a couple of weeks ago, but I think spino will have more of a chance than giga when it comes to fighting rex because of it's health and claws
copper geode
Oh of course
copper geode
Rex needs to have the upper hand in terms of pure raw power. But that doesn’t mean spino shouldn’t be able to retaliate with something else
sick crescent
Dondi said Giga will endure Rex in adult, not fight it, however Giga will fight Rex in sub and juvenile for an exchange.
this is getting off channel topic
umbral prairie
spino will probably/hopefully be very good at defending
lament thorn
Guess that's cause of health?
pulsar lake
Big bleed resistance and great health
umbral prairie
and spinos weak spot is the neck, and that is very close to it's claws
pulsar lake
I hope claw attack
I want it on allo, sucho and spino
Utah too
But utah will have grab
umbral prairie
fast, low damage bite (with good grabbing ability?) and slower, high damage claw attack would be nice
oblique dust
I hope we get multiple attack moves outside of like one standard bite + 1 extra move like a stomp for certain dinos
pulsar lake
Big damage with claws but less bleed and good bleed but less damage with jaw
oblique dust
like it's weird how allo and sucho can't use their meaty arms to fight right now, but of course that's going to change, at least for allo
oblique dust
I'm not asking for som CUHRAZY combat system akin to something like DMC or Monster Hunter or your average fighting game but I think combat would be more engaging and unpredictable if most dinosaurs had like 4-5 attack moves
pulsar lake
Tail swipe
umbral prairie
I mean dino collision will probably make more attacks possible, a trike running against something will still do damage with it's horns even without actively using an attack, and things like a para running against a utah will probably kick the utah out of the way
pulsar lake
Push
Foot kick
Bite
And claw attack for some dino
And rample damage
I don't understand why an utah don't die if a rex walk, trot or run into him
umbral prairie
trample damage will probably work together with pushing/ramming, since dino collision won't allow you to stand inside somebodys feet
oblique dust
yeah I'm hoping collision will result in some attack variation at least
instead of just standard left click bite/right click stomp or tail swipe
umbral prairie
bites that make you actually hold on to your prey will be fun if they do it right, but that is probably hard to implement
oblique dust
like we already know that if you bite down on a small-tier as an apex, you're going to thrash it around in your mouth until dies or something like that
instead of just like
standard right click bite = watch small tier to instantly die in an unrewarding, immersion-breaking way, which is what we have right now
so yeah basically collision or size/creature types resulting in different attack variations would be ideal IMO, I guess
umbral prairie
I think the hardest thing to implement might be grabbing live prey combined with momentum mechanics, for example a rex ambushing a para, biting it's neck and throwing it to the ground, since that gets affected by the weight and speed difference of both dinos, the angle in which the rex bites the neck and the terrain
desert prairie
You're not supposed to be 1v1ing a rex as a giga lmao
indigo sun
That argument is done
umbral prairie
at least not in a 1v1 where both people just walk up to each other
lilac swallow
@desert prairie levi was just joking at uncle
desert prairie
ah
oblique dust
Yeah I agree Sammel, I know it'll be extremely hard for them to do which is why I'm not asking for anything super-complex, but if they did something like say, JWE's reused animations where they reuse they same attack variation animation on a general tier rather than having it be species specific, then that'd be great
not sure if I made my explanation clear, but basically I'd understand them reusing attack moves/animations/etc if they have to
it's nice enough that each dinosaur already has its own specific walking, running, trotting, idle and call animations
umbral prairie
I'd expect reused animations for testing and improving the system itself, but I think the devs want unique animations at the end unless the dinos are very similar in anatomy and playstyle. Wouldn't mind reused animations though as long as they are good
oblique dust
do they really?
unique combat interactions between specific dinosaur species would be so much work... like yikes I can't even think of all of the potential species-conflict combinations they'd have to come up with.
maybe after post-release, but doing something like that right now would just double the dev-time for unesscessary reasons
umbral prairie
yeah I don't mean unique finisher animations, just the general attack animations / holding on animations
oblique dust
yeah I get ya
I could see them making exceptions for certain dino rivalries however, like rex being able to bite trike's horns and steer it, or fracturing its frill or something like that
brittle bough
im fine with wonky or reused animations during testing or initial implementation, thats just aesthetics more than anything else honestly; time for unique/complete animations can be given when theres less important things lel
oblique dust
but meanwhile it the same attack animations apply to cerato, allo, sucho, etc
because it doesn't "rival" with those dinosaurs.
umbral prairie
things like biting the horns might not even take unique animations, just the standard bite, then the locking on to the red ball on the horns, and then the weight/strength of both dinos affecting each others movement
brittle bough
apex vs apex = unique, otherwise not
oblique dust
^yeah, something like that.
brittle bough
what if they added the stunning mechanic of Closing Your Eyes
no vision but you can hear a bit father, and your peepers aren't flashlights in night vision
lilac swallow
You could make that an actual suggestion in #general-feedback @brittle bough
brittle bough
ight
lilac swallow
Idk how will It be rated but is sure an interesting suggestion
umbral prairie
would probably be used by afk growers so they are less visible in their bush, would still be cool imo
brittle bough
wellll if affinity is gonna discourage afk bush-growers anyway
brittle bough
if im gonna afk grow, i just find a tree thats thick enough to hide my head anyway lol, eyes are more troublesome when im being actively stalked and trying to hide from the threat and im pretty well-camouflaged except for these big ole spotlights
umbral prairie
not as unique and playstyle changing as dilo night vision, just some dinos in general having better hearing, much like how dinos will probably have varying scent ranges
brittle bough
ye
lilac swallow
Sammel as long as i know dinos currently has different scent ranges, pachy cant smell busher when other herbis do. But is not tested so i may be wrong
umbral prairie
scent is a bit buggy, don't know if that is intended
mental sleet
What is the problem with it ?
umbral prairie
sometimes you need multiple tries to use it, sometimes either the water scent or the food scent just disappears a couple of seconds after you use scent
not sure if the range can vary, never noticed it personally
barren zephyr
happens to me too tbh
brittle bough
temperature would be kind of neat, could add another dimension to how sprinting works as well, maybe some dinosaurs could be limited more by overheating via exertion than by stamina, and sprinting could help warm one up if they're solo at the cost of generating noise
adds some risk too if the surrounding temperature is already hot, would make carnis be more careful about when and how they launch attacks and consider their temperature
coarse rapids
yea and it will give you a higher chance of surrendering a fight rather than winning/losing
so the victim has a higherr chance of survivng
umbral prairie
could be cool for snowy or desert maps, or for high altitudes, but I think this shouldn't affect gameplay in the forest maps we have now
brittle bough
yeah areas like these forests probably wouldnt see such drastic changes unless they added seasons or something
frank zinc
I was wating for the images to load, sorry x.x
umbral prairie
I didn't see you were typing, I thought you just wrote the caption xD
viral creek
@frank zinc
I love the layout, but there are a few changes. I don't think we need the age/gender selection at both the top of the screen, and under the markings. Instead, the top could be used for something like swapping between different patterns, once they're added?
frank zinc
I specified that the buttons could go in either location. I didn't mean to have the same buttons in two different places lol
viral creek
Oh, I missed that
frank zinc
Yeah haha
barren zephyr
I just want to point out
in reference to an earlier suggestion
anyone who thinks that players shouldn't be able to log off if they're bleeding at all
has like 3 brain cells
bc that idea can be abused so badly its actually insane
indigo sun
There's far too many ways to abuse that
Ah beat me to it
indigo sun
@inner kindle they don't give etas and that's not even the channel to ask in
they're recoding the entire game, it will take a good while
inner kindle
@indigo sun What do you mean by "recording"?
indigo sun
Let me find the link to the recode thing
indigo sun
Aro, are you typing a damn essay dude?
brittle bough
tbf sometimes i write "essays" which are just me being indecisive about wording or trying/failing to keep up with the current topic lol
indigo sun
well, that kills me. all that typing and I dont even get to see it
brittle bough
you made 'em shy lel
indigo sun
Come back I wanna know what you were gonna say
jovial blade
What do you guys think about my suggestion?
indigo sun
I think it'd be a really neat idea. I like it
mental sleet
^
lilac swallow
@thorny lynx the current chat It self is pretty lame
Almost invalidated by discord
thorny lynx
Yeah.
Like
You should be able to hear another one of your species talking shit about you
lilac swallow
I agree
Is true they can use discord to talk shit about you but at least the in game chat shouldnt allow it
indigo sun
@real parcel is that gif really relevant to the conversation?
brittle bough
they posted a random gif in v3 screenshots a moment ago too, seems like spam or a bot
barren zephyr
@real parcel No gifs.
inner valley
@thorny lynx local chat only works within very close range, it'd make talking with people in your group incredibly inconvenient and impossible if someone doesn't have discord, doesn't want to vc, etc, if they aren't within a couple yards from you. if i name a specific situation, imagine catching food and wanting to tell your pack but they're far and you don't want to broadcast and give away the location of your food. so, you walk to them and tell them there's food, but you've walked away and now you can't find it anymore
lilac swallow
Grouped could have a infinite range local chat between group members maybe
brittle bough
stuff said in group still appears in local, perhaps?
thorny lynx
I changed it sorry
inner valley
so if someone of your species comes into close range they see what you type but group still exists
thorny lynx
Now you can basically see local text in group chat
lilac swallow
Yeah, you Talk in group chat but It apears un local too i think is the best way
thorny lynx
Like, say an allo comes up to your group and asks to join while you're in group chat, you will be able to see it
And then say yes
lilac swallow
And viceversa
thorny lynx
@inner valley I fixed it. No need for thumbs down, now xD
lilac swallow
The solo allo could "hear" the grouped ones if close enought
inner valley
just reading it again sdfjk
thorny lynx
Honestly, though, you can hear a giga F call long after render distance cuts off xD
So maybe local needs to be reworked.
brittle bough
but yeah so like
global = .. global
group = local but unlimited distance between your packmates
local = normal local, plus you can see the group chat of nearby members of your species
lilac swallow
I wasnt refering to actual hear
thorny lynx
@brittle bough Yeah, pretty much a tl;dr of mine. Mind if I copy yours and add it for a tl;dr?
brittle bough
go for it if you like
lilac swallow
You could mention slate 😉
brittle bough
pft
vestal rune
uh
I think that idea would just cause more and more people to use discord instead of the ingame chat
thorny lynx
Good
vestal rune
then instead of you hearing the allos talking and them attacking you, you won't hear them at all and they'd randomly ambush you
thorny lynx
I damn well should be able to hear you talking smack in my bite range.
vestal rune
and they could talk smack about you totally quietly right next to you
they'd probably just invite them to their discord lmao
I'd hate the idea of having my group chat broadcasted for everyone to hear
thorny lynx
But still, being able to see what other people're saying between group and local can be critical
brittle bough
its not for everyone, just for that other allo 2 feet away from your allo pack
thorny lynx
What if you see your friends, but they don't recognize your new skin and kill you?
brittle bough
it seems a bit silly for a member of your species to be incapable of understanding you, unless group chat is meant to just be... whispering
thorny lynx
You can just say in local you have a new skin
vestal rune
well ye
thorny lynx
And they'll be like 'oh ok sorry m8'
vestal rune
like I just don't see the point
thorny lynx
Thought you were answering me
brittle bough
again the point is more related to "its kind of odd that this group of allos can understand each other, but this one allo can not"
vestal rune
not really
because it's already odd for groups of allos to have human worthy communication to begin with
I don't think group chat is that big far of a stretch...
thorny lynx
I'm not proposing of getting rid of group chat. I simply want to see local chat and group chat be seen between each other
Like, if you're in local chat, you can see your group members' chats only if they're nearby, but you can also hear other people in their own group chats if they are nearby. \
misty island
^ Much like the reasoning from prior idea about group/local chat, and may I add that, it makes spying and stalking for certain cannibalisatic behaviour in game possible
Which could prove fun
barren zephyr
@craggy river i think i changed my mind to buff giga just keep it that way since it way much better to see none instead of having a flood of them i think they should nerf sub rex or annoying to grow since there is literally 30adult rexes on a server at once
brittle ivy
Pretty sure I told you before, next time it will be a straight ban as you're on strike two. Let me reiterate: @craggy river Next time please submit what you would change to a dinosaur in order to improve it. Simply stating ‘buff/nerf’ is not helpful to the development team. Your suggestion will be removed until a more adequate submission is made.
barren zephyr
main reason i said no to buff sub giga i don't want to see more apexes or more gigas and rexes on a server so if you make the growing boring to play mean less players would choose that dino look at the rex it is so fun to grow mean more ppl go rex
jovial blade
That's sounds so stupid lol
You want dinos to be boring so people don't play?
What's the point of even having it in the game then
They spent thousands on the dino
barren zephyr
what the point of playing low tiers then
jovial blade
It should be played
Because its faster to grow
and they have their own perks
Each dino has its own benefits
If you want to grow a beefy dino, but in turn it will take around 6 hours then go apex
It's what ever game style you're into
barren zephyr
since they can't kill anything besides rexes and gigas on a server i already seen too much even i love giga i don't want more apexes
it is fun as a cerato allo dilo utah and all you just see big packs of gigas and rexes
barren zephyr
hypo are in atm only exist
jovial blade
Hypo's are only for devs atm
barren zephyr
but hypos wouldn't solve the problem many ppl could just grow 3rexes in a server
jovial blade
Apexes can kill each other anyway
barren zephyr
if they just create apexes fun to play what is even point of anything else eventhough your faster and fast grow
jovial blade
Because they're different play styles like i said
Dilo's can hunt during night very effectively
Ceras are suppose to be hardened scavengers
Allos are all around good and can eat most gores
Suchos are semi aquatic and can take on pretty much anything besides apexes
They have their own niches
Advantages and disadvantages
barren zephyr
but if you want to fight stuff and kill them the most effiecent way is too be an apex and to spend 6 hrs to fight them
barren zephyr
dude what do you mostly play tbh i think just play apexes tbh
jovial skiff
@wicked rover Just to let you know Pue is getting replace. It is already planned for herbivores to have diets. Varity of plants to eat soon.
barren zephyr
it is not fun to fight a rex or giga as an allo dilo and utah and lose many ppl and they log out and you basically can't hunt anything or herbies besides your own creature that ppl complain. So if you make sub giga fun means there will be more gigas and rexes on a server i swear i feel like there is 50% are rexes and 10% are gigas and a herd
barren zephyr
subrex being fun is not the issue to the massive apex populations smh its the fact that ai atm is easy on official and easy to abuse cause people will join the servers when low amount of people are playing and they will take advantage of the fact there are less players and that ai spawns in large quantities so close so they afk.
nerfing subs will make people wanna do this more often.😐
im against people wanting sub stages to be fat juvies and easy meals for midtiers.
they already are easy meals. subrex has the same growth as allo when its sub and has 100mins more if you factor in the juvie stage.
sub stages being fun encourages players to stay at a stage where they aren't unkillable to most of the roster. and get severely "overpowered" against just pairs or triplets of a midtier species
lilac swallow
Seriously wanting fat juvies is just stupid
sick crescent
Eh
still temple
Juvi Diablo and Trike are a pain to play, fat juvis arent enjoyable at all
quaint pewter
why do people keep asking to nerf rex speed
it was a sprinter in real life
upper estimates put the juviniles able to run at 40 km/h
lilac swallow
I agree Rex dont need speed nerf
But using real life as an argument in this game is useless, this game isnt mean to be realistic
quaint pewter
eh
white torrent
I’m all for lowering its speed. Right now giga players are getting sorta shafted.
It won’t happen but
Meh
lilac swallow
No pls, shut up about giga. Is the most overtuned dino
white torrent
I’ll keep voicing my opinion
Overturned?
Aight lol
I don’t play giga because..I hate how it moves
It looks like it’s in pain when it moves
Like there’s a demon controlling
It
jovial moss
@lone hatch bigger AI are already planned, but they won't function like current AI do
lone hatch
Oh nice, I wanted to write nerf rex but funboys will be toxic .-.
jovial moss
Once AI stop spawning directly into carnivores mouths, I'm sure the rex populations will drop
Which is the main problem with rex, really
if there were one or two per server instead of half the server being rexes, then it'd be less terrible of an environment
jovial moss
I think it's a lot higher than 35% sometimes, legit have seen more rexes than makes sense
lone hatch
They should nerf it it imo, rex is the best for 2 years or longer
marble ether
shouldn't be nerfed imo, just make it harder to get
it's an apex and should be a LOT stronger than the rest
but apex population is always low
because otherwise it wouldn't be able to sustain itself from all the food it needs
but rn that's not a problem
so if we add food shortage
problem just fixes itself
You can achieve this by either spawning less ai
lone hatch
So giga should get buff
lone hatch
700 bite force vs 1200?
marble ether
no offense but people that think giga is a less viable dino than rex just don't know anything about the game, period