#general-feedback-discussion | The Isle Official Discord | Page 470

misty island May 11, 2019, 1:22 AM

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@tepid light AY Capten Land Ho

brittle merlin May 11, 2019, 1:36 AM

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lol, 1 hour and 60 minutes

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love the featherless babies idea though

paper oriole May 11, 2019, 1:43 AM

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that suggestion for austro is better than the last one, i'd love to see them and theris in survival

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And herrera

misty island May 11, 2019, 1:45 AM

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@indigo sun I think for slots switching it should be a consistent timer for at least 45 minutes

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Not only for which is easier to revenge kill

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But the fact of trolling and mix pack scouting should also be considered

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But although

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If it is changed not by size but by growth

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Let’s say hatchling needs no timer to witch but juvi needs 20 minutes and each growth adds extra 20 minute

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So for smaller dinos without sub stages

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They get 40 minutes and for dinos with sub stage they get 60minutes in total

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That would be nice

indigo sun May 11, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Thats also a good idea

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I didnt put much thought into the timers, yours might be better

paper oriole May 11, 2019, 1:52 AM

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the issue of logging off while taking damage has already been talked over, it would be so exploited to grief players. a dryo could prevent a giga from logging off but not have even a chance at killing it

misty island May 11, 2019, 1:52 AM

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My previous suggestion

paper oriole May 11, 2019, 1:53 AM

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if you can't kill somebody as they sit there idle for the minute timer you should probably hunt something else

misty island May 11, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Log out timer only starts to countdown when one is sitting

paper oriole May 11, 2019, 1:53 AM

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that would be fine

misty island May 11, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Then remove the sitting getting up animation when one log back in

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And then giga would have a 50/50 chance against Rex

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Cus u know Rex can’t combat log no more

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@glass blaze how about only the bleed resistance

paper oriole May 11, 2019, 2:03 AM

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eh its something that would make cerato more unique i think, we need more of that

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i know more unique stuff like that will be added to dinos eventually but that'd be a neat thing for cerato itself to have

glass blaze May 11, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I don't think bleed resistance alone is enough for its role. Ceratosaurus needs to be an unappealing target so it can do its scavenging business. A defensive buff allows it to chase off predators without making it a monstrously good hunter itself.

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The Isle doesn't really have attack and defense stats like an RPG, so I had to improvise a bit.

paper oriole May 11, 2019, 2:06 AM

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the sort of 'adrenaline rush' it gets when it drops down in health is a good idea tbh

misty island May 11, 2019, 2:06 AM

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But you see

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Cera would still get killed on sight

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Cus it can still fuck with any subs and juvi

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The only time they can scavenge really is after a group of five rexs

glass blaze May 11, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Well of course it can still get killed by similar-sized things if it's sitting down. I didn't want it to be unkillable.

misty island May 11, 2019, 2:09 AM

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How would a sub Rex or giga even fight off a cera

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When they have 1.5 bleed res and stuff after half health

glass blaze May 11, 2019, 2:10 AM

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The only thing getting a multiplier is bite force and weight.

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Besides, Rex and Giga still oneshot the bloody thing.

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Plus the multipliers only help so much. Yes, theoretically going down to 1HP could make you an apex killer in terms of the sheer amount of damage you deal... but you're still down to 1HP and even a dryo can oneshot you.

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As far as apex subs being too vulnerable to it... they already have that problem with Allos. Subs getting fucked with by everything is a problem with subs, not the things that go after them.

misty island May 11, 2019, 2:18 AM

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You are making him a berserker

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Even now cera can kill allos

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If cera do have a buff allo will need one too

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Then Maias and para wi

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Will

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Then dibbles will

glass blaze May 11, 2019, 2:19 AM

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Cera does not 1v1 Allos right now. dondiLUL

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Allo facetanks Cera.

misty island May 11, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Not talking bout 1v1

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Taking bout 3v3

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And without ambush allo cannot get to ceras

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And in a fight where allo cannot one shot cera

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Speedy one do have a upper hand

glass blaze May 11, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Not really.

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Cerato is too intolerant to bleed to win that fight without superior numbers.

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Literally all the Allos have to do in your example is stay in ambush mode and pick their targets.

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I will concede that Cerato might need a speed nerf if my suggestion is used.

teal grotto May 11, 2019, 3:13 AM

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If anything Ceratos need a buff lol they are a poor mans allo

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A great buff would be letting them grow up faster

misty island May 11, 2019, 3:52 AM

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That’s why

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Buff bleed res

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And if you consider speed nerf deems worthy and fits the situation then should also put that bit in your suggestion pfff

coarse shell May 11, 2019, 5:06 AM

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@narrow rover people could never group with other species in the first place

narrow rover May 11, 2019, 5:06 AM

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they are, thats why the proposal

tepid light May 11, 2019, 5:31 AM

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then it's an exploit, same species grouping only is already the intended way

jovial moss May 11, 2019, 11:23 AM

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@barren zephyr If friendly fire was disabled, a pack of 40 utahs could run up to a spino and spam bite and kill it without many casualties, if any. Doesn't matter if they do 10 damage per bite because of the mass difference, they wouldn't have to be careful and avoid each other, and 10 x 40 is 400 damage every time they attack in unison, so there'd be no risk. If the devs ever added anything like that, I'd hope it'd be more like you do 25% less damage to your pack members rather than completely nullifying the damage you do to them. You still have to be smart and coordinate properly as a team to take something down, but an accidental bite to your friend wouldn't be as bad

barren zephyr May 11, 2019, 11:29 AM

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oof

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right

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ghknjkgnhgh didnt think abt that sorry

umbral prairie May 11, 2019, 11:32 AM

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maybe hitting your friends on accident might happen less with fixed hitboxes, and maybe this targetting system dondi talked about a while ago where your head tries to attack the closest target (so neck,hips, tail etc). If this system gets implemented maybe your head won't try to bite group members if there is another target very close by

rocky shale May 11, 2019, 11:36 AM

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@cobalt summit I’ve taken a dibble 1v1 as a full Utah and got it down to half health, and I had trying to die. Lol I think it’s fine where it is.....

still temple May 11, 2019, 11:38 AM

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maybe friendly fire between grp members only deals 90% of the dmg? That's the only way I see sth along those lines working

barren zephyr May 11, 2019, 11:38 AM

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yea

jovial moss May 11, 2019, 12:02 PM

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ur good paw 👍 I know how frustrating it can be when you accidently get bitten or attacked by a pal

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 1:01 PM

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Yes those frog sounds are annoying af

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So atleast let us eat them

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🙂

ionic comet May 11, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Yea, i agree maias and paras should be able to group

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same with trikes and diablos

barren zephyr May 11, 2019, 1:43 PM

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these ok emojis are uslessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

hasty parcel May 11, 2019, 1:47 PM

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dondiSquint

blazing charm May 11, 2019, 1:57 PM

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That group suggestion is an awful idea, you'd just bring back the days of super coordinated herbivore groups (Not to say they have gone away, they'll always be a thing but aren't as common)

I don't have the clip on me right now, but the Velociraptor is apparently going to invade burrows, not sure about Oro.

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Also not sure what's with this.....

Kinda makes come across as more of a demand than a suggestion.

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:26 PM

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@hard crest oh how dare does a giga have a single threat ! Simple tip: dont go fucking near a rex

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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oh how dare rex have oh wait no threats

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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oh wait it doesnt turn like balerina

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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so doesnt rex

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giga*

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since they nerfed it

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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giga turns like a balerina

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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and oh wait bonebreak and 5 bites xd

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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alt turn

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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grow 6.5 hours

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to get 5 shotted by a rex imo is unfair

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meanwhile giga has to bite 10 times

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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oh wow

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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and you cant count bleed cause a rex brakes the bone

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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giga when op = invalidates entire ecosystem
rex when op = only other apexes suffer for it

blazing charm May 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Tyrannosaurus Rex isn't something you're supposed fuck with, I've seen plenty of Gigas kill rexes, they've killed my rexes and I've killed gigas as a Rex.

It's all about bleed.

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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^

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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^

blazing charm May 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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You just make it run around, waste the stamina and then just never let him sit down.

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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that too. a giga gets rex to max bleed in 2 bites

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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and giga shouldnt be something your supposed to fuck with either

blazing charm May 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Like, it's super easy.

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But at the same time, if the rex is smart and conserves their stamina

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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if a rex is good then gigas have no chance

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even if the giga is good it doesnt matter

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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then rex deserves it to win

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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but i guess all those rex players just want rex to be the strongest

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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if its smart

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yes im definetly rex player

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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because rex IS the strongest. doesnt mean it can catch you easilly if your smart

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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so why does it need bonebreak

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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cause it has no stam

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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because otherwise things can tank it

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and bleed it out

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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it has more hp more dmg bonebreak more speed

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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bonebreak is a deterrent

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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if rex had no bb giga would suddenly wlak all over it

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2 bites

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is all giga needs

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and that rex is dead if it keeps it standing

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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tbh if anything giga needs a nerf

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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thats why i sad changed it somehow

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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alt turn nerf

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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^

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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i dont play on alt turn

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servers

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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well

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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its just dumb...

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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then off goes any valid balance criticism

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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well you better star tplaying it because alt turn will be forced on

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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makes apexes already stronger then they are

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my problem is the bonebreak its just too op imo it makes the fights rly boring and if everyone just says "just dont fight rexes" well then there is no fun in playing giga if you cant fight any other apexes except some herbs and smaller dinos

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a giga should be able to fight a rex fairly not just have one chance

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one bite nad you might be dead from a rex

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:34 PM

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''fairly''

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Giga fights by bleeding out it's targets.

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Rex fights by killing them quickly.

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Rex should have the advantage over giga, its a direct counter in terms of playstyle.

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:35 PM

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why should it

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Because rex's built to fight shit, not bleed it out.

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:35 PM

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yes

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:35 PM

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That means getting into the thick of it.

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Giga, should not be doing this.

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Giga will bite a few times and wait.

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:35 PM

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but so why is the rex faster

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Rex's trot is mediocre at best

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Giga's trot is godlike

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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tror doesnt matter

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Giga can REGEN STAM WHILE TROTTING

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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because rex has 30 seconds of stam and has to sit to regen stamina

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Rex cannot

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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a rex can just run after a giga

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and catch up

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break leg

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and boom over

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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the rex would need to be preety fucking close for that to happen

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it can only do an attack once

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afterwards it must rest.

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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doesnt have to be close

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Lol you dont need rest

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When their ankle is broken

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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and how is the giga supposed to bite without getting close

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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that's why rex should beat giga

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because giga doesn't want to tank hits.

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Not by this much

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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yes, by this much

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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no it doesnt

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Rex bb chance is too high

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No lmao

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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because giga's a better animal in all other aspects

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lifecycle differences are irrelevant atm, and yes, trot does matter.

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Why would a rex beat a giga easily like this

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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...you guys do realize that giga is heavier than rex and that weight diff causes the bb chance ot be reduced right?

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plus bb got changed in the recode.

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Doesnt seem like that

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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so what

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i get bonebreaked

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first bite everytime

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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1 rex broke 3 giga bones all in 1st bite

outer nebula May 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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people seem to forget you can have a good dinosaur but if you cant use it then what do you get, i've seen a solo giga take on 2 adult rexes and win

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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that's your own fault buddy

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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When ever I've gotten bit by a rex as giga it's been bb on first bite

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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you had 3 gigas and let them all get hit by a single rex.

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Doesn't seem like weight effects it at all

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We still won the fight

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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well no shit you did

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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But that shits ridiculous

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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you hit him twice he dies

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if rex did not have BB we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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heck if a rex didnt break your leg ont he first bite hes fucked

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giga has a faster bite

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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He needs bb

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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so waht keit

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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so he gets two, rex gets one, giga gets out

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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they still 5 shot

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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But not at this magnitude

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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you did not read what i said

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Literly every 1st bite I get bb

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Even as a rex

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I break apex bones on 1st bite

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Its so easy

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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KeitToday at 9:39 AM
heck if a rex didnt break your leg ont he first bite hes fucked (restating: giga can bleed rex out in TWO bites)
giga has a faster bite

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Not even a challenge

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Lol you realize rex is faster

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So even if giga gets bite in

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Rex chases it down

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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yes

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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okay. stay away from it and wait for the recode then which has new bb system

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current balance is completely invalid atm

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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well thats the thing

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it is easy staying away

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but i dont want to stay away

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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that's on you buddy.

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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i want to fight

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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well. die then shrug

mental sleet May 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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you are fighting a direct counter.

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your fault.

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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well thats the point

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why are they counter

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rex has no counter

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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packs of midtiers

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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rex has three. utahs, dilos, allos

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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no rly

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not if you crouch

spiral pond May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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yes rly

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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have you ever seen the hitbox

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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if he crouches he makes his tail vulnerable to bites

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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the rex can kill stuff when they are behind it

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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the hitbox on his left leg is broken\

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thats why he hits you

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if you avoid that your fine

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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yea and he can bite yu with his ass

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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i never said bite his ass did i

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i said tail 😃

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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no

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i never said you did

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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If you get bb best shot is being agressive as you can

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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he can bite you with his ass. but he still has counters due to his tail

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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i mean that rexes bite utahs and stuff with its ass

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when i was rex i 1v2 giga

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i just ran aafter them

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and broke leg

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and bom he is dead

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you cant even bite tail

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its probaly not even a hitbox

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ive bitten rexes right inside of them and still they dont get it

wintry cipher May 11, 2019, 2:45 PM

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theyre a thing. ive bitten the inside of utahs and been bitten inside and been missed.

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its like they got shifted down and to the left

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and a bit backward

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thats why you see so many people complaining of unrealistic hits

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dilos, utahs, allos, get hit in the tail and poof

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or dont even seem to get hit

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also why rex's hitbox goes down to his ass

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Lol allo tail is annoying

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You can get bit on tip of your tail

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And die

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

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well im not gonna discuss anymore i dont want to but all im saying is rex is much stronger then giga and its a game so pvp should be fun not unfair.

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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With locational hopefully rex wont bone break so damn often

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Especially biting on tail

hard crest May 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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it will probaly be bugged and break your bone when biting your tail.

pale prairie May 11, 2019, 2:54 PM

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yeah, i remember dondi talking about a new system for bonebreak, assuming this new system drastically changes the way bonebreak works, giga vs rex might not be so one sided

clear turret May 11, 2019, 3:09 PM

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its Dondi

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He'll find SOME way to make rex always have an rng based "I win" button

umbral prairie May 11, 2019, 3:16 PM

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giga should lose to rex unless the giga surprises the rex and gets some hits in before the rex can react, but I agree that bb is too strong atm. I'm sure that with locational damage, dino collision and the overall combat rework bb will be much more balanced and harder to apply

clever leaf May 11, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Tailbiting shouldnt really do jackshit for the most part. Hopefully it'll make people actually try harder in ambushing and getting bites on the vital regions (neck, etc.)

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or legs for that matter

jovial blade May 11, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Lol yeah

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Rex just runs through and bites everyone

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Boom 3 apexes with bb

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Now rex can have a field day

umbral prairie May 11, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I really hope holding on to prey with your mouth will be possible, holding on to a tail won't do much except slow your prey a bit, but a rex biting a para neck and putting pressure on it for a couple of seconds should almost kill the para. Of course getting a good grip on a neck should be difficult, so there is a chance of slipping off or the prey escaping the bite so it is not too strong

viral creek May 11, 2019, 5:51 PM

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@barren zephyr

The reason BB was removed from all creatures BUT rex, is because it was reworked, and rex's playstyle relied on it at the time. Luckily, we have a new bb system very soon (likely coming alongside the recode), which would allow them to give bb to more creatures.

heady gyro May 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Like Anky I hope?

viral creek May 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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ye

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(if he gets into survival, or during the sandbox dino balance pass)

barren zephyr May 11, 2019, 6:27 PM

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oh ok

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i didnt know that

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thx for telling me that @viral creek

viral creek May 11, 2019, 6:29 PM

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np

barren zephyr May 11, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Velo in survival when

hasty kernel May 11, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Make offical servers hve 200 slots

umbral prairie May 11, 2019, 8:23 PM

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V3 could definitely hold 200 players or more, but the servers sadly cannot really handle that atm and AI spawns bug out once there are too many players on one server

hasty kernel May 11, 2019, 8:25 PM

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i mean, igparidise pulls it off

formal heath May 11, 2019, 10:09 PM

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When servers get high amounts of uneaten body’s that haven’t been turned to gore the server can crash. We try to make it a rule not to kfs ai but people never listen. :/

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It also causes lag

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It would help if we didn’t have to wait for our hunger to go down just to get rid of excessive amounts of corpses

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And what I mean by the sprint ability is that herbivores are unable to crouch and run faster in bad situations. Maybe some sort of panic sprint to make it a more even chase?

vestal rune May 11, 2019, 11:45 PM

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@brittle merlin the quetz currently ingame is taller then rex, and if it ever gets added it will likely get a size change aswell. Also I believe that size is too big, estimates for quetz's size have constantly gone down and if that was made a while ago it's probably out dated

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prehistoric wildlife is notoriously inaccurate, wish I could give a more exact measurement on the current estimates lol

thorny lynx May 12, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Feels like dino sizes are inaccurate as it is

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Rex certainly doesn't look like it's 2 6 foot humans tall

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at the hip

ocean vortex May 12, 2019, 2:57 AM

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Imo the dino sizes are okay

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but not the weight values

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@formal heath you should have clarified that in the original suggestion

formal heath May 12, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Ik :(

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I’ve learned lmao

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 7:10 AM

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@hollow pilot Not a lot of dinosaurs are currently in survival because they are still being transferred/worked on. A lot of them require new mesh, textures, animations, and coding.

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Honestly, awhile ago there was only 4 of each for carni or herbi, oml

misty island May 12, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Mostly a hatchling/juvi/sub model and animation

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Then balancing issues

hollow pilot May 12, 2019, 7:11 AM

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@barren zephyr i just think its taking too long but i get your point

misty island May 12, 2019, 7:11 AM

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Which the recoding they are doing right now

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Enables them to work on these implementation in a more speedy manner

narrow rover May 12, 2019, 7:15 AM

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@light oak to fix your problem: 1. Insta kill when bleeding if you log off, is super solution. Consequence! 2. Just increase hunger on large apex predators. This would create problems to grow up and thrive.

misty island May 12, 2019, 7:17 AM

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Log timer only starts when sitting

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 7:17 AM

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Or you know, people could just finish others off while they were bleeding dondiThink

misty island May 12, 2019, 7:18 AM

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Then remove the standing up and sitting down thing when u log back in

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Combat log solution

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 7:18 AM

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Mmm that aint it cheif ^

misty island May 12, 2019, 7:19 AM

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What were we talking bout then...?

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Sry I might have missed it

light oak May 12, 2019, 7:25 AM

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@narrow rover thats what I suggest, if somebody log off while bleeding, should atleast leave the body. That was the 4th prey I losed because they had shants bodyguards

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But I understand theres new systems for Sta, health bleed etc. So I hope fix this

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Oiw

hallow vigil May 12, 2019, 7:32 AM

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i love that blue GUI

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💙

spiral pond May 12, 2019, 7:56 AM

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same Blocko

jovial blade May 12, 2019, 10:25 AM

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You would get a sore throat

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Not thirsty

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Lol

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@barren zephyr

finite perch May 12, 2019, 10:26 AM

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water punishment isnt great for newcomers who dont know where the water is on the map

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i feel like steadily decreasing the sound if calls are loaded up next to one another would work. but give utah immunity dondiTroll

jovial blade May 12, 2019, 10:27 AM

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I think it should be thought out

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Like walking in the sun for too long

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 10:27 AM

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xd

shell willow May 12, 2019, 12:58 PM

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honestly that sounds fine for me

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but only 1 calls should drain water

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imagine only being able to talk in-game in the chat so long because you need water every 5 minutes..

narrow rover May 12, 2019, 1:04 PM

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@barren zephyr Nice balance idea. I like it

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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what?

viral creek May 12, 2019, 2:13 PM

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@hollow pilot

Yes, it is that difficult.
Each animal costs thousands of dollars to make, requires 2 separate models for life stages, two different soundsets, a new set of animatons, customizable skins, coding, balancing, and an idea for a unique playstyle.
In the future, each animal will be getting unique mechanics to justify them as 'unique.'
Making dinos also isn't very easy when the entire coding team is focusing on rewriting old game code. (The Isle doesn't have a big team either.)

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If it makes you feel better, stegosaurus will be coming pretty soon post recode.

hollow pilot May 12, 2019, 2:25 PM

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@viral creek ok good explanation i suppose 😃

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 3:26 PM

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@viral creek Couldn't of explained it better myself, thank you.

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As much as this game has been in development for the longest time, I still have patience for it (Though my patience is starting to stretch a little thin)

umbral prairie May 12, 2019, 3:30 PM

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I have more patience now than 2017 or 18 , they sometimes seemed like they didn't know where to go with this game, now they do

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 3:31 PM

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@umbral prairie Bingo, I was very fed up with this game in 2016-2018 because it seemed like most of the staff team had no idea what they were doing, or were working on silly projects that wasted a lot of money they could of used way more effectively. (Hypos... Cough) Now I actually see a path for the game, even if its still in beta to this day.

mental sleet May 12, 2019, 3:33 PM

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@barren zephyr already planned

umbral prairie May 12, 2019, 3:35 PM

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yeah, both carrying bodies in your mouth and dragging corpses on the ground are planned and afaik also already worked on

jovial blade May 12, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Cant wait for that

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I wonder if you can also drag it from the water

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 3:50 PM

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awesome

willow zealot May 12, 2019, 3:52 PM

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@barren zephyr

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 3:55 PM

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OWO

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even better then I expected

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does someone know what the croc looks like they'll add in

jovial blade May 12, 2019, 3:57 PM

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📎 images.jpeg-64.jpg

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@barren zephyr

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 3:58 PM

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that'll be my favourite

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pepoEZ

willow zealot May 12, 2019, 4:00 PM

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barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 4:00 PM

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those make me fall in love with deino

willow zealot May 12, 2019, 4:01 PM

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🐊

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 4:01 PM

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what a lorge boye

barren zephyr May 12, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I love him

vagrant crest May 12, 2019, 9:04 PM

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@fierce thunder Then it becomes to easy to grief people by not allowing them to log and just pecking them every 50s

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You would literally be able to hold an apex captive on the server for hours as a dryo.

rotund cave May 12, 2019, 9:07 PM

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thats why you tweak the weight mass to small things

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like velo-dryo-galli,juvis,fresh subs cant stop the apex from leaving

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but half to amost adult can

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the devs will think of something to stop the griefing

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its just a pain in the ass when all these wussy apex players get cornered by a pack of allos or dilos then actualy trying to fend off

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people who work together end up having the body disapear due to how many hits they can handle before they die

umbral prairie May 12, 2019, 9:09 PM

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I still don't really get what combat logging is supposed to be in this game, if you fail to kill something that stands completely still for a full minute you shouldn't hunt it

vagrant crest May 12, 2019, 9:09 PM

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At htat point the argument can be made the fault lies on the allos for not being able to kill the apex in time

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a simpler fix would to just be extend the logout timer.

rotund cave May 12, 2019, 9:10 PM

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sounds like your supporting them vral XD

fierce thunder May 12, 2019, 9:10 PM

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I never said they couldn’t log. Just simply the safe log, if a dryo is pecking an apex it’s not gonna kill it so the apex can just hit the logout timer

vagrant crest May 12, 2019, 9:10 PM

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No just playing devils advocate

fierce thunder May 12, 2019, 9:10 PM

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It’s not like that Dryo can be a scout for Carnis

rotund cave May 12, 2019, 9:10 PM

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bob has the mechanic to stop combat loggers but maby have the same but the body stays ingame longer when your biting it so they dont poof quick

umbral prairie May 12, 2019, 9:11 PM

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It would maybe also help if you had to sit down to safe log, so you cannot pretend to still be active in combat when already having the escape menu open

vagrant crest May 12, 2019, 9:11 PM

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You watch for their heads at that point sam

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If that heads not moving they're safe logging

umbral prairie May 12, 2019, 9:11 PM

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some people also pretend they're logging and are actually trying to bait people

vagrant crest May 12, 2019, 9:11 PM

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and that's being smart

fierce thunder May 12, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Just within the last 3 days we have had 2 Gigas and a Rex combat log on our Allo pack. It gets really frustrating cuz you work for a hunt for so long only for them to combat log when they are 100HP away from death

cyan flame May 12, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Question is Bird, where do you draw the line, okay, so a dryo can't, but where exactly should the line be drawn, and the entire point of the safelog is to be just that, safe, otherwis you're saying that sure, I can log, then the dryo can stand there and broadcast for 5-7 minutes, or letting someone else knows there's now a logged something there to be killed for said minutes

fierce thunder May 12, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Ok so, the safe log out timer resets when they are hit BUT the standard timer does not, so if they log and get hit the 5 min timer still is counting down

cyan flame May 12, 2019, 9:15 PM

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So, not sure how that helps though Bird?

rotund cave May 12, 2019, 9:18 PM

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well the game is supposed to be heading towards a hard horror game, and apexs have either heal bleed resist/healing increased. and since we rely on bleed. they get to a spot where you need to risk dying by facetanking, they know you wont do it. hit logout and there goes your hard work for nothing.

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like allo,dilo,cera dosent have the raw damage like giga,rex on survival and rely on keeping them up bleeding and possible bites from the teamates, they have the hp to withstand quite a bit of it even 60s to log out during it. trying to tell someone your bad at killing them if they logout in front of you sounds just childish imo.

cyan flame May 12, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Wonder if the solution to the issue isn't just increase bleed heal massively, forcing the interaction, and thus actually give a meaningful battle, even for a bleeder :p

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God only knows why you mentioned Cera there, it's very much on the damage side over bleed :p

rotund cave May 12, 2019, 9:35 PM

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either that or up the logout timer and increase the 5min to 7min ingame. other then that people atm are abusing it

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for the body if they didnt safelog*

ebon heart May 12, 2019, 9:37 PM

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The suggestion of not being able to log with bleed or while taking damage 🥰

cyan flame May 12, 2019, 9:40 PM

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It's been explained already why that is not a good idea, what with the potential of trolling/other problems :p Pretty sure there's got to be some better way to handle it, forced resting for logging could work, if it wasnt for the automatic rest on login.. :p

south flower May 12, 2019, 9:56 PM

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I know my suggestion isn’t great, I even admitted to problems that could happen. 🤷 I seriously dunno how a pause option could be added without people using it to their advantage, such as the logging.

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It would be nice, though, if they could somehow do it.

cyan flame May 12, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Eh, is there really a need Dragon?

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Either you're gone quick enough not much would happen, or you'll have to log, otherwise you could "clog" the server with you being around, while being off, unless you'd put a timer on it? And yeah, pausing in the middle of battle? If you're logging, at least you're out of there, opening a spot for someone else and so on, you don't get both "sides" as it were

rotund cave May 12, 2019, 10:00 PM

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multiplayer games dont need a pause button. along with it being survival. if you know u dont have much time on the day dont play it. along with irl issues thats something you cant expect i understand but pausing before something goes after you mid chase/spot its just unfair for the one who spent time into tracking you etc. play smart maby

south flower May 12, 2019, 10:02 PM

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My thoughts were quick/safe logging risks you losing a place in a server. I know you could refresh the server if you wanted back in, but it’s a little inconvenient. And if you just hide there is still a chance you’re killed or whatnot (I know, I know, it’s a survival game, there’s always the chance of dying).
And this is for moments where something unexpected happens and you don’t plan to be away for long enough, but if you have to I suppose you can come back to log or whatever. And I don’t mean pause the game, I guess it’s sort of an invisible mode or something, AFK mode, and maybe there can be a timer on it to where if you’re gone for so long then you’re automatically slain/forced logged/etc. I dunno.

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I don’t mean for it to keep you in game for an insane amount of time.

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Because yeah that’s unfair if you’re taking up space on a server and aren’t on for a ridiculous amount of time

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I just find it irritating sometimes that when you’re logging you’re still in game and vulnerable to being killed.

thorny lynx May 12, 2019, 10:19 PM

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@brittle merlin Thanks for coming up with a solution to the issue I brought up. I couldn't think of another way for it to work.

cyan flame May 12, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Would be helpful if you accidentally press the broadcast as well.. :p

brittle merlin May 12, 2019, 10:31 PM

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yep

misty island May 13, 2019, 1:03 AM

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@icy tangle ur ign?

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Also I think ur idea is great

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They should really fix it

icy tangle May 13, 2019, 1:04 AM

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My ign is Fleyoo @misty island

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I really hope they fix that, been palying for months now and i enjoy it months ago when night were dark and you couldnt see a thing unless you activate your nighvision

misty island May 13, 2019, 1:05 AM

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I am fucking with you shh

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Delete ur ign

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Adjusting gamma is a bannable offence

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But ya they should make nights darker again

icy tangle May 13, 2019, 1:07 AM

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Honestly im giving an honest suggestion, and im pretty sure they know lot of people will raise their gamma.. Thats why im suggesting this to make devs react and hopefully fixing this.

misty island May 13, 2019, 1:07 AM

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They do

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But the thing is you see

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They have this rule

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You can’t adjust ur gamma

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But it’s kinda hard to enforce it

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Unless u have stream record

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Or people saying they are using it

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Which you just did rn

nimble agate May 13, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Isn’t that only with private servers..?

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The bannable thing for using gamma

misty island May 13, 2019, 1:08 AM

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No

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It’s for official servers

nimble agate May 13, 2019, 1:09 AM

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You’re right, it’s hard to enforce. But the devs will make the nights dark again. But not immediately as they’re busy with the recode

misty island May 13, 2019, 1:09 AM

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Ya I know

nimble agate May 13, 2019, 1:10 AM

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But currently you cannot control what a player does using their laptop, it’s not in the games control.

icy tangle May 13, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Hopefully ✌

nimble agate May 13, 2019, 1:10 AM

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They plan to. They just have to get done with the fixing first. dondiYay

misty island May 13, 2019, 1:11 AM

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But no the point is

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@icy tangle u can get urself banned

icy tangle May 13, 2019, 1:12 AM

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I've seen streamers using gamma raise, couple of famous streamers for the isle

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they aren't getting banned

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i mean if you can do it, why wouldnt i.

misty island May 13, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Not gonna discuss or comment on that, I was merely trying to tell you it is a bannable offence and telling everyone about you breaking rules isn’t exactly the way to go.....

hallow vigil May 13, 2019, 3:14 AM

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@icy tangle streamers can raise the gamma on the stream without raising it ingame

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they do it so the people watching dont see a black screen when they turn off NV

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you are definitely not allowed to use gamma ingame

icy tangle May 13, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Yeah but they still can see when night comes along

hallow vigil May 13, 2019, 3:16 AM

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sometimes people turn if off because its still bright enough to see something, especially if they are standing infront of something bright like sand or water

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 3:36 AM

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The Isle is a wonderful game. We can all agree that it has a ongoing future. There is a key feature I am missing that is "The Isle" on console. Yes yes you are all probably going to say, it's not possible, its to much for console etc. What if you "downgraded" the graphics kinda like Ark Survival Evolved there is still soo many bugs on console for Ark Survival Evolved yes, but there's not many "survival games" like this on console and bringing The Isle to console would dramatically affect The Isle's population in a very successful way. This is my opinion my Gaming PC Broke and I've always played more console anyways I watch all these great videos by Anthomnia#0001 and soo much great YouTubers and I have a great amount of friends on Xbox in particular and everyone I've mentioned it to has said something like "OMG That BE GREAT" or "THIS WOULD CHANGE CONSOLE" etc... I hope the Developers see this and realize that it would dramatically be good for The Isle... ~ Kenzie!

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I'm Not a coder or anything sooo in the first part about downgrading please don't judge

edgy furnace May 13, 2019, 3:38 AM

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the game isnt even finished yet

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so

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 3:39 AM

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The closest thing we have is Dino Sim on roblox lol

edgy furnace May 13, 2019, 3:39 AM

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and also its not really possible rn they dont got enough time and money for console and pc games

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 3:39 AM

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@edgy furnace There's a solid amount of games that are not fully released that are on console

misty island May 13, 2019, 3:39 AM

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#401481402782056460

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Not against you here

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I love your productive idea

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And the passion

edgy furnace May 13, 2019, 3:39 AM

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~~also you should post it in #general-feedback first lol~~

misty island May 13, 2019, 3:40 AM

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But this belongs to #401481402782056460 tbh

edgy furnace May 13, 2019, 3:40 AM

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i mean its a suggestion to put it on console

misty island May 13, 2019, 3:40 AM

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I guess

edgy furnace May 13, 2019, 3:43 AM

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i mean i agree itd be awesome to have it on console but i doubt itll happen

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especially right now

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they cant handle console and pc at the same time with a small indie game team

misty island May 13, 2019, 3:46 AM

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I don’t believe it would need much downgrade graphic wise if it is transferred to console

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The main problem would be recoding the game in order for it to run under console framework

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It’s basically recoding again

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If they have that intention

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The system they building rn

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Would have “slots” opened for that option

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Also... @misty island Does Nitrado support The Isle for server hosting?

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if so We have Nitrado on Xbox and I think PS4 so people could host servers

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if it came to console

misty island May 13, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Not an expert

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No idea

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Only know the main ‘problem’ when u tryn put pc games on console

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My knowledge stops there lmao

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But server wise, hosting server on console should be the same sequences as pc. U need a server with a copy of the server hosting for the game

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Its not the same...

misty island May 13, 2019, 4:04 AM

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It should be mostly the software difference

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 4:05 AM

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The only option we have for xbox for "Ark" is Nitrado...

misty island May 13, 2019, 4:05 AM

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But if you talking bout lan or p2p I don’t think that’s possible for the isle

versed blaze May 13, 2019, 4:06 AM

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The Devs have stated this will not be on console

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They are a small Indie team, the resources to do that are not available.

misty island May 13, 2019, 4:06 AM

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Aw rip

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Thanks bacon

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 4:07 AM

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Sad Face

misty island May 13, 2019, 4:09 AM

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also I believe u might have to change ur nickname on this discord

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Something about easier for admins/mods to tag you lethally

torpid wedge May 13, 2019, 4:41 AM

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oh my god that emote dondiUhh i always thought the nostrils were the eyes

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thank you for the closeup

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i do think the different nightvision would be interesting

misty island May 13, 2019, 7:05 AM

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^ you are not alone

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I thought it was emojis the first look too

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 7:06 AM

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Nightvision basically working like a flashlight in the dark

umbral tartan May 13, 2019, 8:17 AM

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Which would kind of defeat the advantage dinos have over humans and their flashlights

misty island May 13, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Not really

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Dino still have sniffing advantage in the dark and their “flash light” doesn’t glow in the dark

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But if it would only cover the front of the Dino

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Maybe a buff in range should be in order

grim stump May 13, 2019, 9:02 AM

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Deinosuchus can death roll ?
And the crocodile have a very nice night vision the deinosuchus can had a good night vision?

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 9:02 AM

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Dondi said they added mouth grabbing

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see after rework

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recode*

grim stump May 13, 2019, 9:03 AM

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Oh nice

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Thanks lamb crocodile

sonic socket May 13, 2019, 12:32 PM

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when will the recode done ?

unborn quail May 13, 2019, 12:34 PM

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We dont know.

sonic socket May 13, 2019, 12:36 PM

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dondiChamp

quick orbit May 13, 2019, 12:39 PM

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@torpid wedge HAHAHA I was trying to find a front photo Then I remembered that emoji dondiLUL

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@umbral tartan @barren zephyr Imagine you huntin 'durmte at night and hoping that it will not turn back and see you right behind him

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@misty island official as our current night vision, but would have a different field of vision, would leave the dinosaur, yes, an increase would be fair

mental sleet May 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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@willow zealot quit posting that crap

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 3:57 PM

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@willow zealot that would make the server lag too much

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If you just had skeletons everywhere

willow zealot May 13, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Unless the recode has somthing to help that

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But besides that maybe your have a point

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Yeah if they find a way to make it not lag, would be cool

umbral prairie May 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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would also be nice to have dino-specific corpses, not just one model for small, one for medium etc

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 5:10 PM

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@barren zephyr i think footsteps should be quieter across the board. you said that louder footsteps are how it is in reality and that isn’t true. these huge animals would have very padded feet that dampens the noise. i think moving through brush and trees should generate noise if you run or trot through it but all other situations should leave your dinosaur barely audible. it would work better for balance too, you could make giga and rex quieter when they move and relying on stealth to approach prey and get them to think about how they do so in terms of what foliage there is that might give their position away

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as well as make giga and rex’s sprint speed slower so they aren’t so overbearing for juveniles**

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either that or you make juveniles somewhat faster with some kind of speed modifier as they grow that brings them closer in line with older animals

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then growing will rely less on hiding, groups with juveniles could afford to move with less risk earlier after nesting, you could increase growth times and require juveniles to take in more food because growing animals require a lot of food irl. this more active mode of play will have less people complaining about longer growth times because growth will no longer incentivize afk growing

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it’s an easy fix in my opinion that will make a big positive change to the structure of growing dinosaur life

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and how growing dinosaurs interact with the ecosystem

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@blazing charm i like your suggestion, what if a sentry that alarms with a predator in their sight could highlight the predators within a radius for group members?

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given that they have clicked on a predator successfully as you suggested

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instead of a highlight like that of food plants or a gore it gives a directional indicator to dryos in your group?

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i’d almost prefer that over a speed buff and keep that for dryo’s passive ability

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i think it’s either or, the speed buff is good and does make sense for alerting a herd into action.

mellow maple May 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Smh, all those people who said no to the isle switch edition. Clearly you're all just afraid of the Utahraptor coming to smash bros. Smh. dondiLUL

blazing charm May 13, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Apologies for the late response, forgot I was on Dnd and didn't see the notification.

I thought about having some kind of visual indication, but I ultimately decided that seemed a tad too exploitable.

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:32 PM

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@queen mortar I see your argument, but I do not agree with it. Stalking is one thing but regular walking or running should make louder footsteps. This is for adult apexes only or larger animals. I have looked into this, and though some animals are indeed built for stealth, I find most apexes to be an exception. Thank you for the input though!

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:42 PM

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@blazing charm i think i’m in the same boat

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i feel ya, @barren zephyr i think it comes down to every individual’s vision for the game.

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:44 PM

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@queen mortar Oh absolutely! Maybe I will get over it when half of the servers are not apexes 😆

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:44 PM

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it’s a really complex problem

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:45 PM

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@barren zephyr Hey man, I like your sug but I just want to point out that Maia runs bipedal and also trots that way, but their slow walk is quad. Yes we can confirm that Maia and Para are probably quadrupeds, they could still run on two legs to get away fast due to their heavy and strong back legs.

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:47 PM

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i think making apexes louder will certainly have a positive impact but they’ll just crouch around more often eventually. they already tend to do that. i think their overwhelming speed and power makes them an obvious choice for people

brittle ivy May 13, 2019, 6:47 PM

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@barren zephyr We’ve actually requested an audit log that will log all commands input into the game. A full suite of admin commands and logs is being looked into.

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:47 PM

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@brittle ivy Thank you for letting me know! I just have been thinking about that for the past few weeks and just mustered up the courage to post that.

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:48 PM

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everyone will complain if you make them slower though, so you give them less noise and more stealth options to counter that. then they can more effectively use their kit with enough practice and they won’t overwhelm the ecosystem

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it needs a catch 22

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Nah just make adult food go down much faster, and get rid of the bloody ava Ai's feeding them almost full.

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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they can’t just be huge versions of allo and cerato with more power, and you can’t just keep making allo and cerato faster

brittle ivy May 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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@barren zephyr We’re just as concerned about the potential for admin abuse as much as anyone, we know it will help out official and unofficial server owners alike if this tool is implemented.

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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@barren zephyr
alright...i still don't care, para is slow

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Thanks for letting me know tho

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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the AI’s are a problem too, yes, but even without AI most will still be fine as they were before

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:50 PM

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You right cursed, in the current state of the game they can be because there are apexes everywhere, Yesterday I got rammed by 2 gigas one side and 3 rexes on the other, Paras really have no chance with how many apexes are in US1 (for example) at the moment.

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:50 PM

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louder footsteps doesn’t change the fact that they utterly outspeed all juveniles with their trot alone

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Lmao

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100% smeasel, i agree on that

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Alright cya dude...

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:51 PM

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juveniles need brought up with a speed modifier or something of the like

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Make adult rexes and gigas starve faster, problem solved, then they have to fight other rexes or eat their friends 👌

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and make small bodies unedible to them as full adults, like oros and tacos, and some really itty bitty babies

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:53 PM

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many will still kill indiscriminately even if the target won’t give them any food in reward

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:54 PM

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You right which is just

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kinda sad

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Like, kill a baby utah as an adult rex? What is your point they cant kill you

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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to grief other players, but baby utahs aren’t really threatened in most cases because they’re so much tinier than everything. they have evasion options

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paras dont, trikes don’t

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make them more viable and you can increase the growth for all i care

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but make them competitive at least

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Ugh, I remember I finally grew my para yesterday and I walk down for some water, not even a minute later 2 gigas on one side 3 rexes on the other

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As a para with that slow stam regen and nerfed speed, you are fucked in every way.

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Especially with 6 apexes on your butt

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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idc if paras have zero combat capability, make them able to escape

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 6:57 PM

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I WAS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL ZEBRA PARA TOO

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Well the are great with mid teir

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but nobody is playing mid teir unless being a fast boi rn because sad apex hours

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 6:58 PM

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adult paras are fine, it’s everything below full adult that suffers in any situation

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it needs a dynamic modifier

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for speed

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juveniles and adults should be able to move together with ease, and have some chance of escape

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hatchlings can be an exception, but i also think hatchling stage should be shorter across the board, at juvenile you should be ready to go

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not chilling in a corner til fresh adult

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that’s a boring game

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then juveniles can grow longer, it won’t feel like a grind, and increase adult stage growth time while youre at it too

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 7:03 PM

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who put the timer on the carrying kids suggestion?

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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you can look at the reactions

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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iirc dondi specifically said that it being added in unlikely

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 7:04 PM

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yeah

spiral pond May 13, 2019, 7:06 PM

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The para is bad for now

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We will see how para is with collision

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 7:09 PM

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if it ever comes

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big if

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 7:13 PM

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I'd say collision is likely

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they did it in the past, just buggly

spiral pond May 13, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Isn’t it already finished ?

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 7:14 PM

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collision?

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we've haven't heard anything about any new collision system I don't think

spiral pond May 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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I think Dondi or someone else said it’s ready

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Idk

livid wigeon May 13, 2019, 7:19 PM

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can i post sites in here

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Probably not

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 7:26 PM

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giga's meant to be the sauropod killer lol

edgy furnace May 13, 2019, 7:28 PM

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mega top tens

torn thistle May 13, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Lot of those would play more or less the same as dinos already in the game.

edgy furnace May 13, 2019, 7:29 PM

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^

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no point in adding something that costs 5k thats the same as another dino

waxen elk May 13, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Mega Top Tens

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Simply going bigger isn't always better. Taking down the sauropods could be done by the existing dinos when/if an improved bone break/bleed/disease (damage) system is implemented.

Imagine breaking the leg of a pue and instead of is simply walking slower, it instead can't walk at all or just can't use that leg to defend itself. Break the two front legs and that pue might have to lay down.
Break a pue's tail and it can't tail swipe for a while.
If something eats the wrong kind of food, like in the system Punchpacket mentioned in #519931024956850187 , which causes them to move slower, do less damage when attacking, or have worse vision for a time. That could create openings for other dinos to take down the big sauropods.

But we definitely have some fun things planned for herbivores in specific by way of diets. Requiring you to seek out certain flora in an attempt to boost your stats in various areas.

But give the sauropods ways to counter this by not eating the wrong food, let them attack with each foot, maybe they can swing their heads and necks around the same way giraffes fight each other (look that up on youtube. It's hilarious and terrifying.) And maybe they and other herbies can drop turds that masks their scent. 💩

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 8:05 PM

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well I wonder where I can give my idea of what I think of the large groups of herbivores (20+)-(30+) ?

versed blaze May 13, 2019, 8:06 PM

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#401481402782056460

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Or #general-feedback

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 8:07 PM

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I think adult healthy pues(or brachios as it should be) should only be eye fodder and hypo food

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it seems ridiculous for even a pack of gigas to send one down

spiral pond May 13, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Oh yea what could go wrong with carnivores mixpacking and shit

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It is fair

thorny lynx May 13, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Hold on

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Cerato can get up and bite?

spiral pond May 13, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Also it’s not like you can always pack up with your own species until you can kill anything on the server

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 8:33 PM

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I think the problem is the shitboxes

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not the standing up then biting..

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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@limpid forum Herbies of different species naturally herded up. Carnis would never mix, and a lot of kinds of carnis wouldnt even group with their same kind.

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And right now, carnis, especially apexes are at a high in the servers, so if anything this should be of least concern.

pulsar lake May 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Jump is useless for dilo

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He can't

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Maïa don't have a time to stop so if you jump Maia stop and hit you

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And you lose more stam than in run so useless

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:06 PM

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jump is for utah since it is very easy to type jump out

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for dilo it's as simple as don't let the maias see you, you're meant to be hidden during the day anyway

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and in trees maias are easy to lose 'caus shit turn rates

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Maias do hardly any damage and the bone break was removed which is even worse, they HAVE to be fast or it would just be a pointless dino.

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:08 PM

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@barren zephyr it's not fun to die to a bunch of herbs with out having any chance to scape xD not cool dude

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:09 PM

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stay away from them? they're no doubt loud as fuck

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:10 PM

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lol so how are u going to stay away from them ? they send maias and gallis to follow u

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:13 PM

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how, I doubt they'd be that coordinated

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also it's rather hard to get spotted

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also, you can still just stay away from them, can't be followed by gallis if you're not there

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Lmao who is going to follow you?

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As a herbie

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we are only worried about you if you are threatening the little ones

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:14 PM

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:V as an adult rex

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 9:15 PM

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A rex is a threat when you see it.

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Apexes are very different to herbies

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:16 PM

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lol i was just walking and a larg herb group start attacking me and u want me to stay away ?

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 9:16 PM

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If youre a dilo

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bc thats what you were complaining about

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I WAS A REXX

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Lmao sucks then?

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I and a lot of other herbies want to get rid of rexes, I don't blame them for trying to attack you. There are way to many apexes and its just cleansing the server.

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:18 PM

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if you die to a couple herbis which none are faster and stronger then you then maybe you deserve to die?

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:19 PM

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lol it sounds reasonable but not cool at all go 1 vs 20+

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:19 PM

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I thought you were like a small dino or something

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:19 PM

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lol :V lets let u go vs all those herbies and lets see what u say

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:20 PM

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no you see I wouldn't go into a bloodlust and attack the 20 herbs

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you see what I would do is uhh... go away...

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and then if any FUCKING GALLIS OR MAIAS follow me I'd kill them

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:20 PM

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:c but i did not attack any of them

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they keep following me and bitting me for no reason xD i really did not want to kill them

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:21 PM

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if they're doing that kill them?

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:21 PM

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next time lol

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:21 PM

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like, they shouldn't be messing with apexes, THEY WANT TO DIE

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you can't just let them do that unpunished lmao

pale prairie May 13, 2019, 9:22 PM

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not as simple as that firefish, i personally know 3 large "herbi groups" that play on official servers.
if they see any carnivore they will kill it.
follow it across the map if they have to.

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:22 PM

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maybe logout?

pale prairie May 13, 2019, 9:22 PM

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near impossible

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:23 PM

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xD while u taking damage ?

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:23 PM

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like seriously, the only herbi that can kill a rex is a trike

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and rex is significantly faster then it

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fairly sure trot is faster too

pale prairie May 13, 2019, 9:23 PM

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nah, 4 diablos attacking you would kill you before you could log out

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:23 PM

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4 diablos would be easy to kill though

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rex dominates diablos

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what I meant is, kill all the tiny things attacking you

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and then go away and logout without them knowing where you are afterwards

pale prairie May 13, 2019, 9:24 PM

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you don't seem to understand, we're talking about a full herd, 20 people.
5 adult trikes trotting behind to keep up, maias and diablos whacking you, they don't care if they die they're only mid tiers.
it's not possible to log out.

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ok fine, you can get lucky and have bad maia/diablo players

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and kill them all

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how are you going to kill the gallis or dryos? you're not.

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:25 PM

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you can ignore the gallis and dryos

pale prairie May 13, 2019, 9:25 PM

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you would already be (or close to being) out of stam.

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:25 PM

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but you still trot faster then trikes

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wait fuck trikes don't regen stam while walking do they?

leaden night May 13, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Nah

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:26 PM

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ye then you should be able to just walk away

pale prairie May 13, 2019, 9:26 PM

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not the case.

limpid forum May 13, 2019, 9:27 PM

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xD duckit he does not understand

pale prairie May 13, 2019, 9:27 PM

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yeah well.

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let me find something

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then i'm sure he/she will

torpid wedge May 13, 2019, 9:36 PM

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“jump” to the maia speed problem? dilo can’t jump....

oblique sluice May 13, 2019, 9:39 PM

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he can use forests, his turn is better than maia

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 9:43 PM

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I literally explained it earlier

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"jump is for utah since it is very easy to type jump out
for dilo it's as simple as don't let the maias see you, you're meant to be hidden during the day anyway
and in trees maias are easy to lose 'caus shit turn rates"

queen mortar May 13, 2019, 9:43 PM

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i love the suggestion asking for more survival dinos as if bryan hasn’t been streaming pteranodon and stegosaurus for two months almost

jovial blade May 13, 2019, 10:13 PM

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@thorny lynx

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For some reason ai doesnt run from me

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When I'm trex

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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@odd coral
Read channels.

odd coral May 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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K

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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chat in here, not in there.

indigo sun May 13, 2019, 10:22 PM

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theyre not removing alt turn

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Idc.

south flower May 13, 2019, 10:22 PM

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I think it would be better to have proper animations to allow alt-turn but in a more natural movement.

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 10:22 PM

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I'm giving suggestions

indigo sun May 13, 2019, 10:23 PM

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And I'm discussing your suggestion. Which was to remove alt turn, and I'm letting you know that they're not removing it.

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Alright

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Ima change the suggestion a bit

pulsar lake May 13, 2019, 10:27 PM

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@barren zephyr it will don't worry.
Dev will change alt turn mechanics with combat system.
Iy will be more realistic

light oak May 13, 2019, 10:46 PM

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@barren zephyr so you think the combat system should be rework because you can't remember which attack is in ur left click?

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 11:01 PM

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I believed feather variants are confirmed

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they actually worked on them a while ago

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@brazen wolf If you dropped the realistic versions of the dinos in this game into the world balance would be impossible. This game in no way focuses on realism and prioritized gameplay over it. Giga is the endurance predator and sauropod predator, rex is the ambush hunter. That's just how it is for them to be unique.

waxen elk May 13, 2019, 11:04 PM

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NO

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NO

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NO

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AND NO

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Stop with this shit

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Giga is already ovetuned

barren zephyr May 13, 2019, 11:05 PM

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@light oak it is illogical that the combat system is reversed on the few dinos that have alt attacks. There's no handbook to tell people which is the alt attack, so new players won't know. This was my first para and how would I know which attack is which? I only just learned because someone told me. It's not that I can't remember, it's that it's logical that the alt attack would be the opposite button of the button that is the normal attack on any other dino. That would just make it easier for everyone.

vestal rune May 13, 2019, 11:06 PM

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the alt attack is on the opposite button...

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like, that's just how it is, alt attacks are always right click

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what you suggested is literally in game

thorny lynx May 13, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Mmm...

regal sapphire May 13, 2019, 11:41 PM

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@golden shoal would be better for their colors to get a pale tint universally as they reach elderly age rather than sudden scarring

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Why not both

thorny lynx May 14, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Dinos already get a pale tint when they're about to die. Don't give them that 'I'm an old man and I'ma die tomorrow' look.

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Also with the suggestion I made they might also have 2 dry pale prunes on them.

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 12:57 AM

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dino genitals

leaden night May 14, 2019, 12:57 AM

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It's called a pelvis slit

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That's literally it

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Balls

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Wait, is that animation for grazing gonna be seperate from eating grass

thorny lynx May 14, 2019, 1:34 AM

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That trot animation actually looks like a trot

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I wish dinosaur trots actually were trots... most look like just faster walks

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The dino should be jogging

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 1:35 AM

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....

thorny lynx May 14, 2019, 1:37 AM

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The stego looks so nice

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I'll miss the dorky pinhead boi tho

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 2:11 AM

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@barren zephyr the night and day are equal of each other it just people count dusk and dawn as the night

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 2:11 AM

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No they’re not equal

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 2:12 AM

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it becomes morning around 4:00 ingame time

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 2:13 AM

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So?

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 2:13 AM

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and become night around 10:00

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or 22:00

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 2:13 AM

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That’s not balanced

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Sounds about right to me.
6 hours night
6 hours dawn
6 hours day
6 hours dusk

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night is longer

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I’m playing right NOW and night lasts longer than Day. So you’re wrong.

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 2:16 AM

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@thorny lynx the gali's jump is that way because when they changed the juvie gali's jump it got mixed up for the adult

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Bust out a clock and prove it then. Doesn't really matter to me either way as I've no problemo with night as it is now.

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 2:17 AM

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same

thorny lynx May 14, 2019, 2:17 AM

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SO juvie galli and adult galli jump got switched?

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 2:17 AM

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gives dilos a chance to hunt

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yup

thorny lynx May 14, 2019, 2:17 AM

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duh fucc

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fix it then pls

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 2:17 AM

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they have a chance as it is regardless

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 2:17 AM

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well no the adult just retains the juvies jump

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Either way they need to fix the length on Night

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 2:19 AM

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i never had a problem with it 30 minutes of day and 30 of nighb

pine sparrow May 14, 2019, 2:22 AM

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@brazen wolf that's outdated info. giga is a little bit slower than t rex, but it's almost negligible. the two animals were almost the same speed.

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 2:24 AM

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@barren zephyr Night and day are both 30 minutes,

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No they’re not

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Lmao k, they are but you do you

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 2:25 AM

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i can prove this because a friend of mine streams and i get on 30 minutes before stream and its just about to it night

pine sparrow May 14, 2019, 2:26 AM

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giganotosaurus was slightly over 20 mph using a modified version Larramendi's method, a speed much more consistent with its size and adaptations

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the same method puts tyrannosaurus at about 23 mph

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 2:30 AM

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@willow zealot Moss on the anky back that other herbies can munch on. Pure winning.

willow zealot May 14, 2019, 2:34 AM

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👌 👌 👌

viral creek May 14, 2019, 3:34 AM

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@thorn yoke Aquatics are mentioned on the game's store page

jade schooner May 14, 2019, 4:27 AM

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@odd coral keep the talk/discussion for suggestions to this channel and not in the suggestions channel

serene hull May 14, 2019, 4:45 AM

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I would love to ride on the back of an anky lol. Perhaps that could be possible once collision is in. And if just by some random bug. I would ride the heck out of ankies @median badger

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Riding on an anky would be a good mod to mess around with when that’s back but for the actual game that’s just weird

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I don’t wanna see dryos riding ankies around

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All the time

serene hull May 14, 2019, 4:47 AM

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nah just juvies. make it a juvie bus

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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That’d look just as stupid

serene hull May 14, 2019, 5:35 AM

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yeah. just a little fun. but it would probably be better as a mod...

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Yeah

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It’d be a fun mod to mess around with

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But I wouldn’t want to see juivies on anky backs all day lmao

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:18 AM

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@umbral coral please god no

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:18 AM

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please god yes

pale prairie May 14, 2019, 6:18 AM

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^

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Ok actually now that I think about it

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:19 AM

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right?

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:19 AM

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yes

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:19 AM

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right?

pale prairie May 14, 2019, 6:19 AM

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have you seen it?

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it wouldn't work

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it's not possible

ebon heart May 14, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Yeah is the pink stuff in a pelicans yawn it’s throat

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:19 AM

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itd be fun to see an attempt

pale prairie May 14, 2019, 6:20 AM

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maybe

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but the fact is, it's impossible.

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:20 AM

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It really is impossible

pale prairie May 14, 2019, 6:20 AM

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i'm all for it, but it's just not possible.

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 6:20 AM

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why so many kinky suggestions. first shit n piss now genitals

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:20 AM

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i know and that makes me sad

pale prairie May 14, 2019, 6:20 AM

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no, it isn't.

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:20 AM

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what

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gross

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 6:21 AM

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ikr

pale prairie May 14, 2019, 6:21 AM

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it's not biologically possible @edgy furnace

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:21 AM

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There’s no way a sucho could do that dondiSucc

pale prairie May 14, 2019, 6:21 AM

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that's what i'm saying dondiSquint

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:21 AM

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it has neck flaps

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:22 AM

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~~parrot yawn~~

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:22 AM

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that fools a prehistoric pelican yall

pale prairie May 14, 2019, 6:22 AM

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nah, it can't fly.

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now ptera

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ptera seems about right

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 6:22 AM

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lol i think itd look cute on sucho

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:22 AM

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i like the way you think

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Sucho but with a beak and feathers

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:23 AM

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but imagine with me a momennt
ur at a lake minding ur own business when suddenly a sucho you didnt know was there lifts its head from the water and does
that

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Wait that’s just a normal bird

pale prairie May 14, 2019, 6:23 AM

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pteras eating animation looks like it's swallowing a fish whole, it's the real prehistoric pelican dondiWeSmart

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 6:24 AM

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id honestly love to see deinos idle animation. just opening its mouth and birds fly in to peck at its teeth. like todays crocodiles

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:24 AM

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i adore that

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:24 AM

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Yes

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This is a good suggestion

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:24 AM

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put it in suggestions you win

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 6:24 AM

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should post it in ?

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:24 AM

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Put it in #general-feedback I approve

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 6:25 AM

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neat B)

edgy furnace May 14, 2019, 6:25 AM

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That would actually be a really cool idle though

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 6:26 AM

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god yes pls let us carry babu deinos

rapid locust May 14, 2019, 6:26 AM

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But ONLY deinos

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since actual crocs/gators do that

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 6:26 AM

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ok but now i think of steve irwin 😔

rapid locust May 14, 2019, 6:26 AM

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given how teeny tiny dinosaur brains are
i don't think most would try or give many shits about carrying kids

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 6:26 AM

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rip my man

rapid locust May 14, 2019, 6:27 AM

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big same

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:27 AM

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:,(

rapid locust May 14, 2019, 6:27 AM

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fuck PETA for trying to shame a good man

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i mean fuck PETA in general but, yeah

umbral coral May 14, 2019, 6:28 AM

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^

barren zephyr May 14, 2019, 6:28 AM

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yea that was a terrie move of them

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terrible* feck

oblique crown May 14, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Short nights? Hell no make them longer.

rotund tartan May 14, 2019, 8:49 AM

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till people learn to abuse the brightness , then it's day non stop.

misty island May 14, 2019, 9:09 AM

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I do wish that they can brighten up half of the day/night cycle transaction

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Dawn is too dark to be dawn

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And dusk is fine

spiral pond May 14, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Dust dondiLUL

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(I know it’s dusk)

misty island May 14, 2019, 9:43 AM

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Lolz mini thanks

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Didn’t notice that

marble ether May 14, 2019, 10:06 AM

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I suppose the timer emote is for stuff that's planned?

misty island May 14, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Yup

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@marble ether

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If you wanted to know more

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They are making a body dragging system during or after the recode

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Which you can drag body out of water

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Or drag it to it babies

marble ether May 14, 2019, 10:37 AM

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yup, I know about that

misty island May 14, 2019, 10:37 AM

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That’s what I heard at least 80% confirmed

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And with that

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They will change the fact where the eating position will not be a station point on the ground too

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Which is intended to tackle the body rag doll over cliffs or slopes and cause big that u can’t eat a body

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But in your suggestions case

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It will also alter the starting point of eating animation

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So the mud eating situation won’t likely to happen anymore

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Dunknow for the water part tho

marble ether May 14, 2019, 10:39 AM

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drinks water while head is completely submerged

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this is fine xD

misty island May 14, 2019, 10:39 AM

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Lmfao

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Ikr

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But have you see JWE

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The T. rex drinking animation

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It literally stick it’s head into the water

marble ether May 14, 2019, 10:40 AM

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I was interested in the game before its launch

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but then I watched some gameplay

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and it was like ehhhhh

misty island May 14, 2019, 10:41 AM

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Same I got so hyped to buy junk lmfao

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Difference is I preordered so baited

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Moving on

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Back to suggestion discussion

nocturne skiff May 14, 2019, 12:46 PM

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@velvet portal i agree on raptors but not dilos

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@brazen wolf the giga can outtrot rexes and it regens stam while walking and rex doesnt plus its ambush lasts longer and it has more stam its actually in a good spot right now and i like it

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 12:52 PM

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@nocturne skiff spino is a non survival dino and goes of it old system were it get 1% ever tick of water

nocturne skiff May 14, 2019, 12:52 PM

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shhh thats what i meant i meant sandbox

outer nebula May 14, 2019, 12:53 PM

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the sandbox dinos are not the main focus right now, survival is what they are focusing right now

marble ether May 14, 2019, 1:11 PM

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sandbox dinos aren't being changed, there is no need for it as it doesn't change official gameplay

versed blaze May 14, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Sandbox Dino's will be changed at any time, before or after they enter survival. Devs are working on others and stego now, check #announcements to see what their current focus is.

lone pagoda May 14, 2019, 3:25 PM

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about dino genitals: doesnt some dinos have cloacas already?

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i’ve seen it on anky and dryo for example

umbral prairie May 14, 2019, 3:30 PM

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we also don't need dinos to have genitals and mating animations

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the only reason is because it was like that irl, but since this is a game and these things serve no purpose since there are easy alternatives they are not needed

versed blaze May 14, 2019, 3:35 PM

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I dont see mating anims in the game.

lone pagoda May 14, 2019, 3:37 PM

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good

leaden trellis May 14, 2019, 3:57 PM

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I can understand people complaining about people combat logging. But if you stand there staring at your prey long enough for the player to logout, then you took too long to act. And if bleed prevents logging out, player's will abuse this and troll others.

umbral prairie May 14, 2019, 4:02 PM

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I think having to sit down to safe log would help a lot, so people cannot pretend to be engaged in combat when already having the escape menu open. If you still fail to kill something that just sits around doing nothing for a full minute you shouldn't have hunted it in the first place.

leaden trellis May 14, 2019, 4:02 PM

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True, I like that idea

jolly willow May 14, 2019, 4:54 PM

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idk if a terror bird would work as a playable tbh

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what role / niche would it fill that isnt already taken

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as ai.. maybe

queen mortar May 14, 2019, 4:58 PM

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ice age dlc doesn’t fit with the lore but it would be cool

compact coyote May 14, 2019, 5:00 PM

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heres my take on ice age shit

queen mortar May 14, 2019, 5:00 PM

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i guess it does fit, what the hell why not

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imo

compact coyote May 14, 2019, 5:00 PM

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they wouldnt work with dinosaurs, would have to be a completely seperate game mode with just ice age creatures for them to work

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if and when modding comes back, go ahead

queen mortar May 14, 2019, 5:01 PM

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the thing is that a lot of ice age era creatures lived in warm climates too like the terror bird etc

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dire wolves, big ass bears

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but yeah you would want a separate environment 100%

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a map with different biomes

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but most wouldn’t be inhibited by going across biomes

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it’s like a proposed island off of alaska or something

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or british columbia

mellow maple May 14, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Terror Birds are already dinosaurs so they fit

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We already have a dinosaur that also kicking legs. SOoooo 👀

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:06 PM

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so that makes terror birds redundant since we have dinosaurs that fill the same niche but better

unborn quail May 14, 2019, 6:06 PM

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^

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:19 PM

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What do people think of the idea of some of the pre-dino reptiles like Dimetrodon and Gorganopsia

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:22 PM

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would be very cool

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but as to how well they'll function in TI?

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ehh, most will get fucked by TI's dinosaurs

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and those aren't reptiles

civic sky May 14, 2019, 6:24 PM

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It would be very cool but even if they were considered what would make them unique? Now granted they would be the first quadrupedal-terrestrial predators.

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Quad

unborn quail May 14, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Deino would like to know your location

civic sky May 14, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Meh, just a log with legs honestly not to mention it’ll be in the water mostly.

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A log with a very dangerous bite granted.

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:31 PM

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estemmenosuchus best boi

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:32 PM

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@still temple they're branches off reptiles and they probably wouldn't fair too poorly against dinos. They died from mass extinction events

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:32 PM

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they're synapsids

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thats like saying mammals are reptiles because we share a common ancestor

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:33 PM

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They're classified as mamal-like reptiles and that's not the point anyways

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:34 PM

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it's an outdated term

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inostrancevia, one of the larger gongonopsids was "only" 3.5m long, TI's utah could easily outspeed and fight it

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Utah can outspeed and fight everything...

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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not to mention the rest of the dinosaurs

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fight? it cant fight a rex.

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:36 PM

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And it's not as though the isle is known for realism stat wise. Looking at you austro

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 6:36 PM

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should the real life animals really determine how much they can compete with the isle's dinosaurs?

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:36 PM

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unless u count running in and giving the rex's ankles a nip "putting up a fight"

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 6:37 PM

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austro has the stats from when he was still the size of a medium dog lmao

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:37 PM

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and he's sandbox

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 6:37 PM

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ye

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but still, they can easily just adjust the animals into competing with the dinosaurs like they do with every thing else

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after all, if all the dinosaur matchups and stats were realistic balance would be impossible

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Maybe longer hunger, fast heal, turn radius, etc

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Not everything is speed + bite

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:38 PM

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you can only go so far with buffing up real creatures to fantasy levels

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y'all remember cerato rex?

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 6:38 PM

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sure, but I think that would be feasable with the pre dino reptiles

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:39 PM

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We're already making a lot of assumptions with things like raptor speed

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What's a few more with a quadruped

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:40 PM

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TI's utah is basically a jp raptor

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the rest of the dinos are mostly grounded in reality tho

unborn quail May 14, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Not even Utah anymore to begin with too

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 6:41 PM

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they are not even mostly grounded in reality lol

still temple May 14, 2019, 6:41 PM

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what I'm saying is, you gotta find a rly good reason for them to spend $7k+ to add another playable

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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they don't go overboard because they choose appropriate dinos to fit into a niche, but they are still quite different from what we know of their real life counterparts

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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How many tyranids are in again?

violet magnet May 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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two

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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counting sandbox dinosaurs

mellow maple May 14, 2019, 6:43 PM

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The chad Alberto and the Virgin Manospondylus Gigas

violet magnet May 14, 2019, 6:43 PM

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is giga a tyrannid?

mellow maple May 14, 2019, 6:43 PM

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No? Wait are we talking cladistics or something else?

violet magnet May 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

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"M. Gigas" tf is this

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anyway

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alberto and rex

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two tyranids

mellow maple May 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

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M gigas is the old name for rex. It should've stayed 😠

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

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that name sounds so dorky

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Maybe a dimetrodon could serve to make the people who like spino looks but want something smaller and faster or could fill dilo's bleed niche after they get changed to venom (which I still think is odd, but realism isn't the focus with this game)

unborn quail May 14, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Sucho kind of fills that role already, similar to spinosaurus, but relatively smaller

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Sucho is more water focused and slow on land. It's also a good deal larger

violet magnet May 14, 2019, 6:52 PM

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carno

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has the bleed and the speed

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and is smaller

unborn quail May 14, 2019, 6:52 PM

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But it still fills that role as a smaller spino to those who a smaller spino

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:53 PM

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I was more focusing on the sail back that people fawn over when I said that

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Since spino and sucho kind of feel like pulling teeth to people who like speed

violet magnet May 14, 2019, 6:53 PM

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need better reasons than just aesthetics to drop $7k on a new creature

stray cloak May 14, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Then why does acro exist while allo and cerato do

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Or why have Barry if Utah exists

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Aesthetics matter to people

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Otherwise we wouldn't have that stego redesign

violet magnet May 14, 2019, 6:59 PM

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because sandbox/progression was in the game before survival

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the survival dinos were remodeled from their sandbox versions

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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@thorny lynx But rex hatchlings ingame do look like that though?

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all the relevant parts of it that is

thorny lynx May 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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No

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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yes

thorny lynx May 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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It's just a smaller juvie

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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long snout, long legs

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well ye

thorny lynx May 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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babies should have tiny tails, big eyes

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Juvie rex doesn't have big eyes at all

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 7:06 PM

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how do you know this?

violet magnet May 14, 2019, 7:06 PM

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none of the other hatchlings have huge eyes

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galli and dryo are the only ones i can think of

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 7:06 PM

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ye

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juvie model is the same as hatchling model

thorny lynx May 14, 2019, 7:06 PM

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All hatchlings are resized juvie models

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that's it

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It's boring

vestal rune May 14, 2019, 7:07 PM

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ye...

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dude

unborn quail May 14, 2019, 7:07 PM

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It saves money

pliant ember May 14, 2019, 7:07 PM

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That juvi Rex you posted looks pretty terrible compared to the juvies in the game