#general-feedback-discussion | The Isle Official Discord | Page 456

blazing charm Apr 10, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Uh, okay but again

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I JUST did one

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like, a week or two ago.

lethal sparrow Apr 10, 2019, 10:12 PM

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I know, last Sunday checking into it.

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I can keep it under my hat if you don't want to jot anything down so far in advance? I'm not sure what your cycle of revisions is.

blazing charm Apr 10, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Just making sure, I've had people use my outdated revisions before.

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I usually just revise them whenever I think of something, so please enligthen me.

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Although, after the Rugops one I am waiting until the code rework.

lethal sparrow Apr 10, 2019, 10:14 PM

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I did read the most recent one, I just didn't have a firm memory of when.

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So. Main thing that got me thinking is the camelback gimmick. Fat & maybe water retention, with a metabolistic overdrive mode for fighting off other apexes. I thought that was very neat. It made me think of Acro as a kind of woe & weal creature, not just in the sense of famine, but of being suitable for extreme and varied conditions the proper apexes might not be suited to. Giga likes the plains, Rex likes the temperate forest, Spinosaurus the main waterways. Presently, with little in the way of a weather system and no climate, the main thing keeping them from stepping on each others' toes is combat balance.

Acrocanthosaurus is interesting. Its niche is, partly, the margins of every territory. It's a hobo dinosaur, a mendicant that might not claim territory as much as carve a path through others' turf, gassing up before moving on to the next area. But the camelback had me thinking on climate. Acro is unique among the large theropods in that it has lips. As I understand it, there's been plenty of debate as to whether theropods would've had exposed teeth in general- lots of griping about dinosaur reconstructions coming too close to the skulls and not thinking or speculating enough about soft tissue- but as it is, this is a unique feature. And the reason exposed teeth have been thought of as implausible is water retention.

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What I'm driving at is that whenever you get around to a fresh revision, go in on the hump over the Acro's muscular ridgeback acting as both a water & fat reserve. I think there's no question that it should be dual role. But also consider the lips and their effect on overall water drain, and furthermore on climate viability, because the Acro could have the interesting distinction of being a viable desert predator.

No one else can really get into a hot, dry climate for long among the large theropods, making the desert a possible refuge for small to medium sized herbivorous prey that's fast and knows the terrain, thus being able to get to oases and to root for arid plants. And likewise their small to medium predators that have adaptations suitable for arid living in any future climate system.

Acro, in pursuit of these creatures or in very lean times in the less extreme climates, has one secure locale in the badlands of any future map iteration. It doesn't have the strength of the top tiers and it's a little clumsier than the other midweights like Allosaur, but secures itself as a go-anywhere live-anywhere extremophile that works in the margins available for it.

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Another good key in is the night vision. Desert living is two extremes of blistering, beating days and chilling nights. When other creatures hunker down to conserve energy, Acro, with its fat reserves and at least semi-warmbloodedness as dinosaurs are speculated to have had combined with binocular night vision, will be capable of happily roving in conditions that other predators are not inclined to as a matter of energy conservation, catching herbivores with their pants down during otherwise safe if lean hours. In general, Acro roves a lot, because staying tied down at its awkward weight is a recipe for something big putting its foot down or the peanut gallery of proper midweights falling on it.

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Does any of that seem reasonable? I realize this is a bit more than I thought it'd be in advance, but I didn't want to put out too little information to wrap head around and have to clarify.

blazing charm Apr 10, 2019, 10:35 PM

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First of all, I wanna make it clear that I reaveally love all of that. First to address the uh, water retention thing. I did mention in the doc that I personally was not sure, my reasoning for that is I wanted to provide the option for Acro being kind of a nomad, but not the degree where it rarely has to go near any kind of water, I know in the older iterations I had the hump store food & water.

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As for the rest, again I really like that idea but it kinda ultimately hinges on whether or not some kind of arid biome or arid map is added ~~Which is something I have been wanting for oh so long~~

lethal sparrow Apr 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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The old map before the codebase cock-up did have a desert, didn't it?

blazing charm Apr 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Grim Expanse?

lethal sparrow Apr 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I wouldn't know the name, it was before my time.

blazing charm Apr 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I believe that is what you were referring to, that was a mod I am afraid.

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You know, I gotta say I am super impressed by the amount of thought and detail you put into all of that, there is a certain suggestion doc that I plan to work on soon, something that I think you'd quite enjoy, shall we take this to PMs?

lethal sparrow Apr 10, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Sure thing. I'm happy to help.

misty island Apr 10, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Welp the only thing that Rex really need to nerf rn is it’s massive hitbox

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But recoding is coming so not really

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 12:05 AM

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So i found out about having to pay for mods, whats up with that?

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why wouldn't they do the same thing as most othere games and let the community flourish

misty island Apr 11, 2019, 12:06 AM

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There’s no mods on the isle

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The modding function is disabled atm

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Cus

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Recoding of the game

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Massive rework

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 1:51 AM

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@misty island please read complete sentence before commenting , the comment is towards what the hell was the thinking behind the full for paid work shop content? why not just do dlc and let us do what we do best and thats create cool stuff i have no problem with the workshop being down i care about paying for what on the workshop and how the rest of steam is suppose to look at that, if any of this is true though i have not et been giving proof so thats why i am here

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 1:57 AM

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how is this a suggestion discussion tho

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 1:58 AM

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I'm suggesting the do DLc and not paid woprk shop content and as the name applys i'm giving a reason as to why

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 1:58 AM

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thats not a discussion of an existing suggestion

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 1:58 AM

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again please read full sentence before commenting @edgy furnace

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 1:58 AM

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i did read the full sentence

fading marten Apr 11, 2019, 1:58 AM

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huh

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 1:58 AM

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and it is if i make it so, why wouldn't my opinion be valid just because you can;t see reason, stop flaming and leave me alone

indigo sun Apr 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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i dont think seth meant to ping you heckaroo. i think they meant heckatoo

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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^

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they meant to ping me

fading marten Apr 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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ohh

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okay

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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1 letter name difference lol

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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whoops lmfao

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:00 AM

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and im not "flaming" you im just saying make a suggestion first and then discuss it

indigo sun Apr 11, 2019, 2:00 AM

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no one'

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heck hold on

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 2:00 AM

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8:05 PM] Seth: So i found out about having to pay for mods, whats up with that?

Suggestion *[8:06 PM] Seth: why wouldn't they do the same thing as most othere games and let the community flourish

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like really guys

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:01 AM

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put a suggestion in #general-feedback

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 2:01 AM

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I'm aloud to discusse here, stop flaming

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:01 AM

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omg

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im not fLaMiNg you

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jesus christ

lethal sparrow Apr 11, 2019, 2:01 AM

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All that's being said is you're putting the cart before the horse.

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The thing to do is put in suggestions, 'Please don't ever put in paid mods if you're thinking of doing it.'

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 2:01 AM

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you have a problem with me and how i do things, not a legit problem with any currently existing rule, your flaming on me because theres nothing else to, please make reasonable reply's or don;t say anything if you got nothing nice to say

lethal sparrow Apr 11, 2019, 2:02 AM

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Then discuss it.

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:02 AM

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whatever

lethal sparrow Apr 11, 2019, 2:02 AM

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So where's the source on paid mods for Isle anyways? Steam dunked the paid mods scheme a long time ago.

indigo sun Apr 11, 2019, 2:02 AM

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no one's necessarily disagreeing with you or saying it's a bad suggestion. theyre just saying to actually put it in suggestions so people can see it and that this is the place for discussion. it's easier to keep them separate because otherwise your suggestion could get lost among discussion.

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 2:03 AM

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@indigo sun at least someone's capable of reason and thought into what they say, thanks for the info i'll do that now

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:06 AM

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literally said the same thing just simpler lmao

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just said you should put your suggestion in the suggestions channel then suggest it

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thanks for explaining anyway nines

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and there isnt paid mods in the first place btw

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not a thing

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its all free mods

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 2:18 AM

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proof? @edgy furnace

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:18 AM

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go on any game with workshop

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its all free

indigo sun Apr 11, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Where did you hear about mods having to be paid for?

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:19 AM

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^ ive never heard of it

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dont see anything saying i need to pay

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indigo sun Apr 11, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Neither have I. Closest thing I know is server owners planning on comissioning people to design mods.

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:22 AM

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steam is pro-consumer theyd never make it like that lol

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 2:22 AM

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then why hand out to personal gain server hosts

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why not hand out in general

indigo sun Apr 11, 2019, 2:23 AM

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What are you talking about?

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 2:23 AM

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now that your getting the idea that you can't pay for mods on the workshop where do you think you'll be getting it from

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:23 AM

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server hosts? how does that have to do with the workshop or modding

dark basin Apr 11, 2019, 2:23 AM

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if say they were paid

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as they have suggestion among othere services

indigo sun Apr 11, 2019, 2:25 AM

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I'm confused about what you're saying. Again, where did you get this information?

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:25 AM

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im confused too

coarse shell Apr 11, 2019, 2:47 AM

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if you're having to get mods by paying for it you're being scammed buddy

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and tricked

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and besides, mods dont even work right now

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 2:53 AM

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yeah honestly i have no idea what youre talking about cause theres no paid mods no mods for the games and you went from mods to server hosting for some reason earlier

misty island Apr 11, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I think I have a possible reason for Seth talking weird

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Maybe he was told to paid the mods

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In a particular server

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To get Dino or such

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And for sm reason he read it wrong or as he said

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“Did not read complete sentences”

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Btw I read ur entire sentence I was merely telling u there’s no mod available for this game right now

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Aka no workshop content

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As you would call it

versed blaze Apr 11, 2019, 4:35 AM

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Yeah, this isn't a Suggestion Discussion. Back to the channel topic, thanks!

blazing charm Apr 11, 2019, 2:00 PM

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@timid steeple That is so easily exploitable

timid steeple Apr 11, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Hm?

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I guess for the fact that any carnivore could just hide behind the burrow?

blazing charm Apr 11, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Wait, hang on.

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Fuck, I misread that completely.

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My bad.

timid steeple Apr 11, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Wait i am interested

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How did you read it?

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xd

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You thought it was so that people could look down in the burrow? xD

blazing charm Apr 11, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Thought you were implying they could look around outside, while inside the burrow.

timid steeple Apr 11, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Oh nonono

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That would be too good

blazing charm Apr 11, 2019, 2:03 PM

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My apologies

timid steeple Apr 11, 2019, 2:03 PM

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no need to apologies rofl

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We all make mistakes

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dondiSoNice

echo bridge Apr 11, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I'm not sure how easy that would be since the burrow isnt at the same level the entrance is but is actually a big distance under the entrance (have someone make one on a sandbox test level server with nametags and you'll see how far down their name goes)

This is likely to prevent burrows popping out of the mesh

versed blaze Apr 11, 2019, 2:26 PM

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I don't think you should be able to see out. It's kind of the balance for being able to burrow in the first place.

echo bridge Apr 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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And its not like you cant hear things approach either

versed blaze Apr 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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ANd if someone does sneak on you and they're hungry, the AI will give them away also

white falcon Apr 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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I think seeing out from the hole would make sense. You never know, a large carnivore might be waiting completely still and not making any noise waiting for you to come out.

timid steeple Apr 11, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Yeah, that's the problem with the burrow. Things can just stand still and BAM once you out

versed blaze Apr 11, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Well, that's the trade off for literally being the only dino with a "safe space"

pulsar lake Apr 11, 2019, 3:49 PM

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40 minutes of day and 25 of night.
No, just no. Some thing same.
Like day 30 minutes and night 30 or 25 minutes.

vestal rune Apr 11, 2019, 4:07 PM

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tbh I think it'd be worth it to have a slightly longer day, since the transitions between day and night practically add extra night time, and they should be equal

white falcon Apr 11, 2019, 4:10 PM

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@swift jacinth I’m pretty sure that’s going to be added (but I may be wrong)

swift jacinth Apr 11, 2019, 4:11 PM

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it would be quite helpful

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I almost got eaten last night cause I couldn't find the burrow in the dark

flint rune Apr 11, 2019, 4:21 PM

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And if seasons are added in the far future there could be time differences such as in real life. Example: day would be longer or shorter depending on the season and the same would go for night though I think alot of people would hate that lol

stoic crow Apr 11, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Who would like it also most if the first tissoplastic would be a allosaurus?

hasty parcel Apr 11, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Do you have to post that everywhere? dondiSquint

stoic crow Apr 11, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Sorry, I want answers.

edgy furnace Apr 11, 2019, 4:48 PM

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dont gotta spam it everywhere

blazing charm Apr 11, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Posting that everywhere is probably just going to dissuade people more than anything.

barren zephyr Apr 11, 2019, 6:41 PM

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has there been confirmed that there would be actual body dragging?

south flower Apr 11, 2019, 6:43 PM

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I think so, or at least the ability to carry prey has been in the works

barren zephyr Apr 11, 2019, 6:44 PM

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thats not dragging like my suggestion stated

south flower Apr 11, 2019, 6:45 PM

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I would assume if they are working on carrying they may be considering dragging corpses

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But I’m not sure

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I could have sworn though some ask-a-devs back dragging was mentioned

pulsar lake Apr 11, 2019, 6:48 PM

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If you have a respawn button after 1:30 hours, it's just useless except for apex dondiLUL

barren zephyr Apr 11, 2019, 6:48 PM

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they meant picking up stuff🤦 thats not dragging

pulsar lake Apr 11, 2019, 6:49 PM

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I think "respawn button" should exist

versed blaze Apr 11, 2019, 6:49 PM

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It does, in Sandbox mode

south flower Apr 11, 2019, 6:49 PM

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No no, I mean I thought I saw something about dragging, Chungus. Not carrying. I thought I saw it discussed in a ask-a-dev.

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But it’s been so long since I’d seen it though

versed blaze Apr 11, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Dragging was discussed, I'm looking for it now.

umbral prairie Apr 11, 2019, 6:50 PM

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both is planned afaik

lament thorn Apr 11, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Yeh the click of Dondi carrying a galli and saying that he'll be able to work on actual dragging soon

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So both planned

south flower Apr 11, 2019, 6:52 PM

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^

umbral prairie Apr 11, 2019, 6:52 PM

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didn't he talk about picking things up that are still alive and killing them in your mouth? not sure on that but iirc he said that in one of the galli carrying clips

barren zephyr Apr 11, 2019, 6:53 PM

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gasp well thats cool

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i guess i have to takedown my suggestion

versed blaze Apr 11, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Naw, don't have to take it down

vestal arch Apr 11, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Does anyone know if alt turn is gonna stay in the game or if it will be romoved

umbral prairie Apr 11, 2019, 7:00 PM

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it will stay

vestal arch Apr 11, 2019, 7:00 PM

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sorry that im askin here dont think there is an channel for such things

umbral prairie Apr 11, 2019, 7:00 PM

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the option to disable alt turn will go away

vestal arch Apr 11, 2019, 7:00 PM

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so only alt turn will stay

umbral prairie Apr 11, 2019, 7:01 PM

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yes

vestal arch Apr 11, 2019, 7:01 PM

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nice

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ty

umbral prairie Apr 11, 2019, 7:01 PM

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it just needs an animation

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and it will maybe get slower for some dinos when combat gets reworked

vestal arch Apr 11, 2019, 7:01 PM

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ok

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ty

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rly im glad you awnsered

umbral prairie Apr 11, 2019, 7:02 PM

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np

blazing charm Apr 11, 2019, 7:08 PM

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As much as I adore George's idea of a Tisso Allo, but the fact that it is partially based off of dober-guana Allo is yucky

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I did not need a reminder of that abomination.

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Oh, also upvoting your own suggestion is yucky.

unborn quail Apr 11, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Tisso Allo is not a half bad Idea though

compact coyote Apr 11, 2019, 7:36 PM

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shut

unborn quail Apr 11, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Go away

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Tisso Allo would be miles above hyper Allo

lethal sparrow Apr 11, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Tisso/nu-Tisso anything would be nice, really. What's the deal with the strain being reworked?

willow zealot Apr 11, 2019, 8:18 PM

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That thing is the coolest thing I ever saw(Tisso Allo)

shell willow Apr 11, 2019, 9:24 PM

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@fervent hearth excuse me what

fervent hearth Apr 11, 2019, 9:24 PM

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😄

shell willow Apr 11, 2019, 9:24 PM

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what in the holy hell is going on there

fervent hearth Apr 11, 2019, 9:24 PM

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the new gallie!

shell willow Apr 11, 2019, 9:24 PM

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dondiSquint

fervent hearth Apr 11, 2019, 9:25 PM

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i hope to have it approved my monday 😄

shell willow Apr 11, 2019, 9:25 PM

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no

delicate bobcat Apr 11, 2019, 9:25 PM

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YES O?O

versed blaze Apr 11, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Approved by who?

fervent hearth Apr 11, 2019, 9:25 PM

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damn what a shame! i been working overtime!

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by a dev of course!

vestal rune Apr 11, 2019, 11:09 PM

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wait what?

versed blaze Apr 11, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Nothing, you see nothing.

desert prairie Apr 12, 2019, 2:34 AM

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lmao how does a pack of 5 allos kill a herd of 5 dibbles

candid quiver Apr 12, 2019, 2:46 AM

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The last thing the official servers need is dumb "can't kill this" rules, every server I've been on with rules about when you can and cannot kill always turns into a reportfest and it takes a lot of fun out of the game imo

desert prairie Apr 12, 2019, 3:18 AM

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If you dont like being mass killed grow a trike, log out and grow a trike in the same place.

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bet you will kill those pesky bois then 😃

timid steeple Apr 12, 2019, 6:05 AM

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@desert prairie What about a pack of 13 Utah’s killing a whole heard? Rofl

lilac swallow Apr 12, 2019, 6:14 AM

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I personnally dont like mass killing but rules against mass killing are even worse

timid steeple Apr 12, 2019, 6:53 AM

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True, but I hate seeing a giant Utah pack hunt everything it sees down even tho they have plenty of food around lol. Also on EU 1 was there a Hypo who killed 4 rexes and 2 gigas and 1 trike?

sick haven Apr 12, 2019, 6:54 AM

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So?

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It's a hypo, a relentless killing machine endlessly hungering for more and more meat

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or plants, as the herbs may turn out to be

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if you cross the path of the hypo, death is an expectation, not a possibility

timid steeple Apr 12, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Yeah

sick haven Apr 12, 2019, 6:57 AM

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It's the same with mass killing, in my eyes. If you get into a big herd for protection, big packs will form to hunt them. Utahs are forced to pack because it's the only way they can really be effective at the moment, but in general you're never truly safe. And that's the name of the game. In a herd you're safer and have allies who can help you if you get attacked, but it doesn't necessarily mean you're automatically protected

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Along with big packs comes more mouths to feed, more hunger to deal with.

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Killing big herds fufills that

timid steeple Apr 12, 2019, 6:57 AM

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I have a camouflage dilo skin and was hiding in a bush when a hypo carno came by, i was so scared rofl

sick haven Apr 12, 2019, 6:57 AM

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There's no reason to restrict mass killings

timid steeple Apr 12, 2019, 6:59 AM

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That's true

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If you heard

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I was a carno with 3 other friends

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then we started nesting people in

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Like super super grazy nesting

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We ended up having 28 carnos in 1 group

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Running amock on the server

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I love how a group of 3 rexes just looked at us and ran for their lives lol

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But yeah, the larger the herd the more carnivores it will attract

jovial blade Apr 12, 2019, 7:39 AM

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Idk some people like playing differently

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I like how there is servers with rules

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Having no rules on any server would get annoying after a while

oblique crown Apr 12, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Keep your realism rules out of my servers. dondiGross

timid steeple Apr 12, 2019, 9:24 AM

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They not yours dondiLUL

normal fern Apr 12, 2019, 10:52 AM

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If a herd of maias are being killed by 13 utahs those maias deserve it

barren zephyr Apr 12, 2019, 10:57 AM

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@dark basin Got to work on those social skills, can‘t enter a discussion like that throwing random stuff around and then ask people to leave you alone dondiLUL

white falcon Apr 12, 2019, 11:51 AM

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@lethal sparrow I think there should be more of an outline for your dinosaur when in a higher-foliage area, or maybe a white outline for yourself in general or something. Good idea tho!

barren zephyr Apr 12, 2019, 12:03 PM

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@fading shadow I suggested that too

fading shadow Apr 12, 2019, 12:15 PM

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@barren zephyr outstanding move

white falcon Apr 12, 2019, 3:52 PM

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@jovial blade I assume you mean for things that would migrate (because fat dryos and gallis aren’t very... desirable for herb players)

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But I do like the concept of a fat reserve- maybe during combat it can work as a slight armor as well

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But maybe as a trade off falls can be even more fatal for those with a higher current fat reserve (more weight to splat on the ground)

jovial blade Apr 12, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Dryos and gali wouldn't really migrate their fat storage wouldn't be that big anyway

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I think this will help herbs alot in the future I'm sure there will be more plains with less plants

coarse shell Apr 12, 2019, 4:02 PM

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i migrate a lot as galli tho

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ive traveled like a third of the map already

white falcon Apr 12, 2019, 6:24 PM

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I mean, yeah, but your speed gets you places @coarse shell. Trikes don’t have that luxury.

willow zealot Apr 12, 2019, 8:04 PM

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VR Veiw

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torn thistle Apr 12, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Last I checked, Mercs will have a first-person view while Tribals have 3rd, but I could be wrong. No need for something like VR.

And Brachio is still in the works, so I doubt the devs will just randomly pass them out to players.

umbral prairie Apr 12, 2019, 8:31 PM

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I hope both mercs and tribals will not be able to look behind them without turning around, it would be cooler to be able to strafe left/right with A and D instead of turning the camera behind you

pseudo falcon Apr 12, 2019, 8:37 PM

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@torn thistle seeing as its just a reskinnned Pue it would slowly starve to death and such. I just see it as a fun and short lived experience. Since you'll eventually starve to death and all lol. Its functional enough to be fun and the model looks up to par.

torn thistle Apr 12, 2019, 8:38 PM

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To each their own.

torpid wedge Apr 12, 2019, 9:12 PM

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@willow zealot whyd you react to your own suggestion xD

blazing charm Apr 12, 2019, 9:13 PM

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~~Here's a suggestion, outlaw people upvoting their own suggestions.~~

jovial skiff Apr 12, 2019, 9:23 PM

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King i agree 100%

umbral prairie Apr 12, 2019, 9:28 PM

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@dreamy basin theri is a sandbox dino, they're not a priority at the moment

dreamy basin Apr 12, 2019, 9:33 PM

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@umbral prairie I know. Thanks. Was just hoping for a quick speed change when it's possible

umbral prairie Apr 12, 2019, 9:35 PM

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yeah quick stat changes would not be hard to do, I could also imagine theris run animation looking ok when played slower but I think they won't change sandbox dinos for quite some time, even though it might not be hard to balance in some cases

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and if they make an exception many people will probably ask for changes for other sandbox dinos

torpid wedge Apr 12, 2019, 9:41 PM

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then it'll never end

lethal sparrow Apr 12, 2019, 11:40 PM

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@white falcon The thought was that it's strange that you can't generally see forward past a tree or bush stand when you're sitting in it, no matter how hard you twist the camera around, where you may be able to if there was a first person camera or a plugin opacity toggle with a modest radius, keying off the same function that makes foliage transparent when you zoom in inches away from it. I do agree a self-highlight function would be helpful for just assessing how you're physically oriented on the fly in, say, some of the solid brush sticks in Thenyaw.

edgy furnace Apr 13, 2019, 3:32 AM

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@heady sun did you just have a stroke there

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cause that seems more like a stroke more than a suggestion

shell willow Apr 13, 2019, 3:32 AM

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^

sweet oasis Apr 13, 2019, 3:35 AM

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@heady sun You good there now?

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Lmao

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 4:00 AM

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@south flower its not a survival

south flower Apr 13, 2019, 4:00 AM

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But it is still a playable dinosaur. I understand they are working on survival dinosaurs now but at some point it would be nice to see the Theri be able to be able to fight more realistically, or at least in my opinion.

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Why work on a dino that barely anyone plays or cant play

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Theri might not even make it to survival

south flower Apr 13, 2019, 4:01 AM

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I see people playing Theris all of the time, and if Stego makes it to survival I don't see why Theri couldn't somewhere down the road.

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Unless they absolutely plan for Theri to not be in survival, anyway.

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 4:02 AM

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I almost never see theris

south flower Apr 13, 2019, 4:02 AM

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They want to make gameplay realistic, I just feel that it would be more "realistic" if Theri did some form of bleed damage.

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 4:03 AM

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I don't think they're going to bother on non survival they still have to do loads to do

south flower Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 AM

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And that may be so, but I can still at least make the suggestion for the heck of it. Maybe they'll read it, maybe they won't, but at least it's there.

clever leaf Apr 13, 2019, 4:06 AM

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Aside from Theri just being a sandbox dinosaur currently, hence irrelevant right now

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Gameplay "realistic" wouldn't work because if that applied then T.rex would fuck the ecosystem.

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Realism is rendered irrelevant if it clashes with gameplay.

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I hadn't heard them "wanting" to make gameplay realistic

south flower Apr 13, 2019, 4:11 AM

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So are you saying Theri with those machetes for claws shouldn't cause blood to spurt from any creature it slashes into? How would that clash with the gameplay if it was somehow balanced?

clever leaf Apr 13, 2019, 4:11 AM

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You said "They want to make gameplay realistic"

south flower Apr 13, 2019, 4:11 AM

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And I always was under the impression that, as far as anatomy, habits, etc go for dinosaurs to make each unique, was to be realistic

torpid wedge Apr 13, 2019, 4:20 AM

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increase bl sure

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but lower damage to balance it

lethal sparrow Apr 13, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I'll say again that with sandbox dinosaurs being almost entirely third party server owners' problem outside of sandbox servers, where nothing has consequences or matters, that throwaway experimental balancing of said dinosaurs is perfectly reasonable.

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The team itself won't have to do testing of said changes or any hard math metabalancing until the time they want to bring a dinosaur over from sandbox; until then, players on third party survival servers with injection systems will bear with the changes and act as pay-to-play outside testers, as is the case with basically all early access games. Ignoring the ethics of the concept, it's technically sound to do whatever and let the problem sort itself out through 'nerf X/buff Y' reports for further rough balancing.

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 6:15 AM

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theri needs to be slower, then it can have high damage and/or bleed

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plus if the gameplay was 'realistic' apexes (or at least rexes) would snap a theri's neck in one bite

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but if they change one sandbox dino there will be tons of requests to change the other ones

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and complaints about the changes done since there was no real testing done

lethal sparrow Apr 13, 2019, 6:18 AM

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Theri is already sort of fragile, so isn't that already sorted?

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 6:20 AM

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idk about the stats, or maybe I am just bad at fighting or the hitboxes were buggy, but theri always seemed way too strong to me

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it is fast and has high damage

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idk about the turn or the bleed res or anything so I don't know how apexes fair against it

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 9:07 AM

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@craggy geyser Just ask in global who wants to join

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If no one replies no one is interested

craggy geyser Apr 13, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Yes but not on every server you can talk in global @jovial blade

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 9:29 AM

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I haven't been in a single server that doesn't allow global

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I feel like people will just spam invite all

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Will be annoying for solo players

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You should just suggest in the community server you play in to enable global lol

paper oriole Apr 13, 2019, 9:32 AM

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most servers that don't have global have a global chatroom in their discord to somewhat solve it anyway

abstract shuttle Apr 13, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Sure Theris are decently fast, with high damage, but they can’t take a hit. They’re Glass cannons

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 3:05 PM

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How is a trike breaking bone with its stomp

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If something gets stomped that's small would just die by the sheer weight

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And if you're stomping something bigger then you all you will be breaking is toes 😂

barren zephyr Apr 13, 2019, 3:14 PM

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this would not work with locational without looking goofy

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also i think trikes stomp should be replaced with a run trample so stupid small packs can stop trying to hunt it

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Yeah it would be goofy ag

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Af

normal fern Apr 13, 2019, 3:36 PM

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When people say that theri is balanced despite the fact that it's faster than a cerato and would routinely run down every carnivore that isn't an apex
🤔

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And people say that carnivores are "OP"

mental sleet Apr 13, 2019, 3:38 PM

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and theri is sandbox

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so its relevancy is null and void

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you cannot compare sandbox dinosaurs to survival dinosaurs.

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Trike breaking bone with a stomp is the only BB that makes sense other than like Pahcy theoretically breaking bones again. It weighs 16,000 lbs and you're literally having its weight thrown on you. I could def see giving it that or trample (one or the other) logically. Rex only makes sense because of its bite force, but from a balance perspective giving something highest raw damage + bleed + bone break on its one single attack doesn't make sense, especially when you're trying to create playstyle diversity through different species/differentiate the roles of different species

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 3:57 PM

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rex needs both the high damage and bb for it's hunting style, without bb it would run out of stam/lose it's ambush before it could kill it's target, but bb will probably be changed with locational damage and dino collision

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so you can't break legs by biting tails

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:00 PM

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we definitely don't need more things with bb lool

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:00 PM

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It’s fine to have bb, but definitely don’t think it needs as much as it has

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I think it’d be fine to give other dinosaurs bonebreak where it makes sense imo

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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not now

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Pachy makes sense and trike makes sense imo, even if you make them lower chances for it

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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because currently bone break fucking sucks and it should be kept minimal

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I agree that we don’t need other things with 70% bonebreak

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But you can give other things bb without making it 70%

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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when it gets reworked, sure, ofc add it to anything that needs it

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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trike does not need to break legs, if anything is small enough to be stomped on by trike it would be dead anyways, otherwise the trike would only hit the feet/lower legs of the dino it attacks

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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K'sariya that's not the problem

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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the bb chance needs to go away

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:02 PM

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^

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that's the problem, it's rng

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:02 PM

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it would be cool to have different bb stages

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:02 PM

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70% bb is actually good because you know you're gonna get the bb lol

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:02 PM

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so you're not instantly fucked if you're bitten unless you're significantly smaller

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Yeah, that I’d be fine with, but i figure that they won’t rework a mechanic while recode is going on

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The chance of bb is probably just a variable somewhere

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:02 PM

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ye, so no bb for now

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because we don't want it to be how it used to be when like half the dinos had bb, and every single fight was purely luck based

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:03 PM

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I really hope juvie speeds will get looked into after the code rework and some new mechanics

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some juvies are so painfully slow

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because they use the same animation as the adult

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:03 PM

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some should be slow

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Yeah I agree the rng sucks, because rn trike vs Rex 1v1 is rng, just heavily tilted in Rex’s favor

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 PM

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rex can kill both other apexes 1v1 because of bb

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because you can't alt turn with bb

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 PM

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rex should definetly have the advantage over giga lol

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Well and because you can’t stomp as trike, you just can’t facetank Rex bites even wh I’ll spamming gores

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 PM

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I think rex should win a clean 1v1 with giga

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 PM

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idk about trike, some people say that they can actually win with trike in a 1v1?

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:04 PM

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but giga should be able to bleed it out if it surprises the rex

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trike should be next to impossible to kill from the front

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:05 PM

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If you manage to get off more than one stomp before bonebreak as trike, yeah

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But the odds are heavily against you

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:05 PM

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but more vulnerable if attacked from behind

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Otherwise, you have to have other herbies around to keep the Rex moving and off of the trike

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And to wear down its bleed

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But if you only get one stomp (or less) off as trike 1v1 and you don’t have some terrain advantage (like your back to a cliff or something), you lose because of the sheer difference in bite force

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:06 PM

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a rex should almost kill a trike if it manages to bite down on it's neck for some seconds (idk if that will be a thing, but I really hope grabbing necks or other things will be a thing at some point)

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:06 PM

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And terrain only counts if you bait them into breaking their leg or something lol

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Yeah, we’ll just have to wait and see what they do to the systems after the recode

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:07 PM

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ye I wonder how combat will actually be after the rework

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:07 PM

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I think it would be cool if rex killed most smaller things up to allo size with a neck bite tbh, but it would have to be very hard to get a good grip on necks so it is not too easy/strong

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:08 PM

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will you still just get some bites in or will you be able to grapple

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:08 PM

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with a chance of slipping and giving the prey a chance to run off

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:08 PM

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I wouldn’t expect anything too complex or accurate or riveting, though. Not a AAA game

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:08 PM

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I really hope that they will get hitboxes fixed

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:08 PM

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I imagine if they plan for quality they get it

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:09 PM

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if they do that, licational damage will probably be fairly easy

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Locational damage will probably be the best we get. Hit boxes will hopefully be improved, but if MHW can’t get it completely right, idk if The Isle can

vestal rune Apr 13, 2019, 4:09 PM

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the only difference between this and a AAA game is the time it takes to actually make it

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:09 PM

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dino collision and momentum will be harder to do

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because both speed and weight will play a role in ramming things

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Yeah, and the time it takes to develop = money

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:10 PM

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and the speed/weight difference of the dinos running into each other

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Assuming they’re employing developers and it’s not just volunteer work

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Either way, could probably waffle about what we hope to see all day and nothing will come of it unfort, just have to wait and see

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:11 PM

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I'm most likely overestimating the possibilities of what they can implement

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without it being buggy and not working

gaunt parcel Apr 13, 2019, 4:13 PM

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@blazing charm i am absolutely in love with your suggestion, as i really look forward in playing the velociraptor i feel like that is the most accurate i'd want the playstyle to be 👏

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Yeah, that’s kind of what I was getting at; collision probably won’t be anything more than not being able to walk through Dino’s and getting stuck on them, and locational damage probably won’t be any more than landing attacks in certain hit boxes on a model for multiplier damage. That kind of stuff takes a lot of time and money to do, and is stuff that even AAA games haven’t quite gotten right. But it’ll be a fun improvement regardless, just have to manage expectations

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:14 PM

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I think dondi said something about ramming, not sure on that though

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yeah locational damage will probably be damage multipliers

vestal jungle Apr 13, 2019, 4:15 PM

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I wasn’t there when Utah pounce was out, but heard it was retracted for business

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So probably @ without it being buggy and not working part

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*buginess

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Autocorrect pls

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:15 PM

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yeah pounce caused bugs

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but it will return eventually

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and locational damage will probably be multipliers at first, but I hope there will be grabbing/impaling/clawing at some point, although that will be time and money consuming and hard to do

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 4:46 PM

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I just dont see why trike needs bb

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Why tf would it be stomping a fucking apex in the first place

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it's suppose to charge it's horns and cause bleed

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:47 PM

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the stomp is dumb in general

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Literally imagine that

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a trike trying to stomp

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a tier 4

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when it can just stick its horns and cause massive bleed

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 4:51 PM

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I could imagine an attack where the trike pushes itself forward(not much distance, just a short increase of it's speed)using some stamina, ramming it's horns straight in the direction it is facing and slowing down again if it misses (and obviously slowing down if it hits aswell since it gets stopped by the dino it is attacking) and maybe dealing some more damage if the attack is used while sprinting

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Only stomp i see trike would be using is like a small stomp for like smaller dinos, not like the long necks where they go on their back legs and drop

barren zephyr Apr 13, 2019, 5:19 PM

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trike doesn't need bb anyway this is stupid it still loses to rex in a facetank

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it should get its old turn back instead of this annoying "give it BB" no thank you

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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@barren zephyr Its ok

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When collision is a thing rex wont be able to face tank a trike

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lol

barren zephyr Apr 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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but collision= more face tank lol what

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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How?

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How tf is a rex biting a trike where its horns are

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It need to bite the neck for more dmg

barren zephyr Apr 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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it is stopping going trough people

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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and leg to break bone

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Biting tail for bb wont be a thinfg

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thing*

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You will need to bite the leg

barren zephyr Apr 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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ofc

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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So how is a rex face tanking a trikes horn

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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locational damage = anything facetanking trike dies

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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You would do the least damage

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It's protected on its front

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I would much rather go for neck shots

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and leg bites for the bb

barren zephyr Apr 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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i dont remember it being mentioned that facetanking a trike would cause it so u take some dmg from biting it in the face

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:25 PM

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No the part where the trike is stabbing you in the face with its horns

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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you don't but the trike also takes next to no damage

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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is where the dmg comes from

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XD

barren zephyr Apr 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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thats locational

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Yep

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Get it now?

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Face tank trike with locational= bad

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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@umbral prairie the anky will eventually be in survival dude

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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of course it will get bb once it is in survival, but right now it is not so it won't get bb

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there is no reason for it not having some form of bb once it is in survival

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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how do you know? it used to have it, they removed it for some reason... so they can re-add it

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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they do not do anything with sandbox dinos

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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with a lower chance

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that is incorrect

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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they won't change sandbox dinos

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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still wrong

versed blaze Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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They don't? They're currently working on a stego right now...... 😉

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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yeah

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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yeah because it will be in surv

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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sammel don't act like you know everything about something you know nothing about

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you are making no sense sammel

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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they don't get changed until they're getting worked on for surv

versed blaze Apr 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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They do work on Sandbox dinos, just not the same priority as survival.

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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exactly

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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They have a new stego model

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Dont they

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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yes

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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sammel stop trying argue something you know nothing about, even a moderator is saying your wrong, and you keep going... just shush

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I am still very sure that anky will not get bb right now, especially with how bb works

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they kept it for rex because of it's low stam and it relying on it to have a successful hunt

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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I just don't see a point in suggesting non survival dinos atm

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I feel like your suggestion will just get drowned out

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XD

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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i honestly could not care less about your opinion whether you think it will or wont, I put it in the suggestions section, not the IT WILL HAPPEN section...

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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I know

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I can still say what I think about it

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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No one thumbs down or up my last 2 suggestions

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😦

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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even though you don't care about what I think

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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I know you can, but stop telling everybody that they don't ever work on sandbox dinos when they actually do

mental sleet Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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they do ?

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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they are working on stego right now david

mental sleet Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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...

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Well from what we know stego is only thing eing worked on

mental sleet Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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that makes stego a survival dinosaur

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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not it dosn,t, because it isn't

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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I didn't say they will never work on sandbox, but they will not be a priority for quite osme time

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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they are working on it, new animations and model

mental sleet Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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its being modeled to be playable in survival, explain, reaper.

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its a survival dinosaur.

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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so it is pointless to suggest things like anky bb

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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that is exactly what u said sammel

mental sleet Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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it will be balanced toward survival

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Nopwe

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They just got a new model

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They haven't balanced it yet

mental sleet Apr 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it WILL

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be balanced.

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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So?

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it's still not a survival dino

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It's only a survival dino when its in survival

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XD

mental sleet Apr 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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...

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it is getting ready for surv

versed blaze Apr 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Nothing wrong with suggesting things for Sandbox dinos.

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it dosn't matter if it is fucking pointless, I put in the suggestions because people wanna see it, and I wanna see it... for the final fucking time, just because I put in the suggestion box, DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL HAPPEN

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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I still know that

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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so shut up

versed blaze Apr 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Calm down folks, don't argue over suggestions.

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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and I will still say that it is pointless right now, idk why you're suddently so angry

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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if you know that, then stop complaining about it, and shut tf up

versed blaze Apr 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Let's just take a break, eh?

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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ye

brittle merlin Apr 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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finally

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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But still

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He said stego is a survival dino just because its being worked on

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It's not in survival atm

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So it's a sand box dino

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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it is being worked on because it is getting ready for surv

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Yeah

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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they do not work on it to stay a sandbox dino

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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It will be a survival

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But it's not one atm

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 5:45 PM

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that is the difference between stego and anky (atm)

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I don't want to continue this, but I didn't mean that all sandbox only dinos will stay that forever and will not be changed ever, if it seemed like that is what I meant then I am sorry

oblique crown Apr 13, 2019, 6:54 PM

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I keep seeing that start of game being an ear rape suggestion But I don't see any proble m are they talking about the ae intro?

south flower Apr 13, 2019, 7:14 PM

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It’s not an ear rape on my end so I don’t even know what that’s all about. 🤷

jovial blade Apr 13, 2019, 7:39 PM

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It is very loud

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Just at 60 volume its loud

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When it starts up theres a really loud sound

compact coyote Apr 13, 2019, 8:08 PM

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homo complainopithecus

fast spear Apr 13, 2019, 9:33 PM

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could it be possible that no one in your group can do damage to each other. I dont know how many times i've died from team mates by accident 😦

edgy furnace Apr 13, 2019, 9:33 PM

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#general-feedback

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put it in there before you put it in the discussion channel

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and you gotta coordinate your hunts/fights better

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punishment for not doing that is you die to your team mates on accident

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 9:37 PM

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imagine a pack of 5 rexes ambushing in all biting the same thing, killing it in a single second and repeating it with the next thing they see

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because they can't hit each other

edgy furnace Apr 13, 2019, 9:37 PM

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yeah it would ruin the combat

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 9:38 PM

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or 5 trikes standing in the same place horns facing outwards constantly attacking and nothing would happen to them

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because they can't hit each other and nothing can attack them

pulsar lake Apr 13, 2019, 9:39 PM

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I think apex pack size will be 3 for rex and giga and 5 for trike.

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Or 4 for trike

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 9:40 PM

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that would be nice

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or even 2 for rex and giga

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but 3 is also ok

edgy furnace Apr 13, 2019, 9:40 PM

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2 is a little much

pulsar lake Apr 13, 2019, 9:41 PM

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2 is just for balance where other dino have a pack limit

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I think than 3 apex would be nice because these dinosaurs lived in group.

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And bigger group.

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But for balance I think other dino should have a pack limit

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 9:42 PM

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realism doesn't matter in balancing, but 3 would be still a good number

pulsar lake Apr 13, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Like allos, ceratos, utah, dilo etc

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We can have balancing in realism

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For pack

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 9:42 PM

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I don't think they really need a pack limit

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maybe affinity will affect packs that are too big

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but right now it is fine how it is

pulsar lake Apr 13, 2019, 9:43 PM

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I think they need because meet an allo pack and these allos are 8 or 9 is too much

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A limit like 5 is good

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OR 6

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 9:43 PM

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8 allos is fine

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it is much but it is ok

pulsar lake Apr 13, 2019, 9:43 PM

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After, this depend of how many are other dinos

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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I think affinity might get lowered if there are like 20 allos

pulsar lake Apr 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Like if you meet a diablo pack and they are 6 or 7 yes

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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or 20 anything

pulsar lake Apr 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Affinity will nerf mega pack

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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yeah hopefully, although mega packs are rare anyways

pulsar lake Apr 13, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Affinity will, what I've understood, obligated player to play a little bit "realisticly".

umbral prairie Apr 13, 2019, 9:45 PM

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there are as good as no herbis

pulsar lake Apr 13, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Like no mega pack, mix pack, herbivore corps guarding, spawn kill etc

barren zephyr Apr 13, 2019, 10:05 PM

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hypo dryo 😂

valid flower Apr 13, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Why didn’t they add a hypo dryo for April fools lol

blazing charm Apr 13, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Too much work for a joke.

mental sleet Apr 13, 2019, 10:54 PM

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oof

next nexus Apr 14, 2019, 12:09 AM

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hypo [insert herbivore here] wheeeeeeze le epic joke my dudes

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never heard that before

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sure slaps me on the knee

unborn quail Apr 14, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Because herbivores being engineered to better killing machines seems logical

delicate mango Apr 14, 2019, 12:33 AM

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easier to feed as well

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or atleast less expensive

edgy furnace Apr 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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@violet magnet that’s something to ask discord devs

wintry cipher Apr 14, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Heck. Its an in-game thing. XD

edgy furnace Apr 14, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Ohhh

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I’m dumb

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dondiLUL

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I was like why are you asking these devs

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I always just use steam chat or discord chat so i forgot that was a thing

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It happens to me on discord so I thought they meant that lmao

lime olive Apr 14, 2019, 6:40 AM

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Your discord is stuffed then

ocean vortex Apr 14, 2019, 7:22 AM

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This game has a carnivore bias

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But man..

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The fans have a herbivore bias

paper oriole Apr 14, 2019, 7:28 AM

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idk a ton of fans are carnivore bias just as much as the devs lol

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 1:26 PM

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this game has a Trex bias ... 60% of the players are Trex .. why? because it is OP

elder pine Apr 14, 2019, 1:43 PM

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on thenyaw dilos seem to be the most popular dinos

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 2:03 PM

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It's also a very famous dinosaur

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Same if spinosaurus was a survival

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You would see a ton of spinos and rexes

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 3:05 PM

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how are rexes op, sure bb is too strong and you have no chance once your leg is broken but unless you let the rex get close to you before it starts it's ambush it can't do anything

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the ambush is fast but short, with the ambush a rex only runs about 70-75 meters far, if you run away while the rex ambushes you that is nothing

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because it has to catch up

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Rex isn't op but if you're on alt turn server then sure

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Alt turn is disgusting

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 3:29 PM

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how is alt turn disgusting

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do you like utahs soloing rexes?

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some creatures need slower alt turn once locational damage/dino collision are a thing, and it needs an animation

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plus bb needs some changes

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but I don't understand what is disgusting about alt turn besides battles needing timing and baiting instead of ass riding

compact coyote Apr 14, 2019, 3:41 PM

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i really dont understand how people are starving as sucho

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you can eat small ribs as a juvie, fill up on one before progging then live off of ai

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fresh prog adult shouldnt be hunting shit either way cause youre still the same weight as a carno

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 3:42 PM

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hardcore sucho players try to survive off of only fish dondiExcite

compact coyote Apr 14, 2019, 3:43 PM

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this is where id survive off of fish
IF THERE WERE ANY

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 3:43 PM

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that's the point dondiTroll

compact coyote Apr 14, 2019, 3:43 PM

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but memes aside

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Honestly it just seems like they're area locking themselves

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Granted, all the common areas for sucho players have decent ai spawns

compact coyote Apr 14, 2019, 3:44 PM

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sucho is literally one of the easiest juvies to survive as, ^

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not to mention that to my knowledge sucho still has prog hunger values no?

leaden night Apr 14, 2019, 3:45 PM

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No

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They changed that

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Juv Sucho starves in roughly 30-or so minutes now

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Compared to not needing to eat at all during its growth

compact coyote Apr 14, 2019, 3:45 PM

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thinkCollapse

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 3:46 PM

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That's plenty of time to get an oro though

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From just about any spawn

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Northernmost and canyon can be hit or miss for ai, but everywhere else is easy

knotty wyvern Apr 14, 2019, 3:48 PM

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the issue is the AI is also broken

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and never spawns enough

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 3:48 PM

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I disagree

knotty wyvern Apr 14, 2019, 3:48 PM

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i just experienced it then

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Surviving off of ai is simple

knotty wyvern Apr 14, 2019, 3:49 PM

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i starved twice as a sub sucho because ai wouldnt spaawn

inner valley Apr 14, 2019, 3:49 PM

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I'm not a part of this conversation, but let me just quickly say, AI spawns almost everywhere- Even sometimes in the middle of absolute nowhere, if you sit and wait, chances are, AI will spawn nearby.

knotty wyvern Apr 14, 2019, 3:49 PM

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I did

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twice xD

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idk its rlly weird

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it only happens on Nycta

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particularly nycta 3

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so i wonde rif its somethign to do with the amount of people on

inner valley Apr 14, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Nycta has many issues of its own

knotty wyvern Apr 14, 2019, 3:50 PM

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since it had 200 people

inner valley Apr 14, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Like rubberbanding off cliffs because your ping is above 1000

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Ah, so one of those 200 count servers where it's been admitted things get wonky when there's more than 100 players.

knotty wyvern Apr 14, 2019, 3:50 PM

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very tru

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yea idk its very odd

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idk abt other servers but definetly on nytca its very hard to grow a sucho

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 3:52 PM

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fish are planned, and sucho will be able to eat them (and probably spino aswell once they add it to surv) but idk about bary

knotty wyvern Apr 14, 2019, 3:52 PM

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yea thank god

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fish would be so helpful

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 3:52 PM

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what bugs are there on bary

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I don't think they will do anything to sandbox dinos (in the next months)unless there are some very serious bugs

knotty wyvern Apr 14, 2019, 3:54 PM

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yea its rlly sad

vestal rune Apr 14, 2019, 3:59 PM

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@barren zephyr I never knew baryonyx was bugged? it's a sandbox dino so it likely won't be fixed for a while anyway

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 4:23 PM

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ok thx firefish, shame though

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:25 PM

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What are the bugs though? @barren zephyr

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:35 PM

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@umbral prairie Because I've seen vids of alt turn its stupid

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I rather wait for collision

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Or a form of trample

versed blaze Apr 14, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Alt turn is here to stay

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There will be animations for it though to make it better

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Wdym alt turn will be permanent in every server?

mental sleet Apr 14, 2019, 4:38 PM

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el devs are disabling the ability to turn alt-turn off

versed blaze Apr 14, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Yes. According to Dondi

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Not until the animations are done though, I think

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Damn

versed blaze Apr 14, 2019, 4:39 PM

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It woin't be the pirouette it is now though

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Hopefully it will be better with collision

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:39 PM

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'I've seen vids of alt turn its stupid' still doesn't explain why you think it is disgusting

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have you seen vids of no alt turn?

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Because it encourages face tank battles

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:40 PM

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utahs and ceras soloing apexes?

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Yes

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:40 PM

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no alt turn encourages ass riding

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to an extreme

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Yea but your bad for letting people ride you

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:40 PM

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bb encourages ass riding at the moment, sadly

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:40 PM

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A skilled player knows ways around it

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:40 PM

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most times it is really not 'your bad'

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Also it makes ambushing much more important

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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just kosed a juvie giga for sport

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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most times you cannot do anything against it

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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With alt turn you just face tank

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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you don't

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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i cant handle this much power as a diablo

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fcuk

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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no, with alt turn it encourages group play

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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now i know why ppl kos

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Literally every alt turn vid I've seen they jsut turn and face tank

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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one man keeps their focus, and the other goes in for ass bites

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Gives rex such a big advantage

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:42 PM

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bb is too strong imo

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but again, rexes can only ass ride things with broken legs because they can't alt turn

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if they could turn rexes would still need to do something to not get hit

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:43 PM

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I rather a back up mechanic

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Walking back

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:43 PM

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why?

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Then your ass rider will just backup when you backup

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:43 PM

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So you dont jsut turn and face tank lole that

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:43 PM

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so the opponent can also walk back and continue the assride

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best idea

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Like*

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:43 PM

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10/10 idea

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:43 PM

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You have to juke them

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Sprint then go back

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:44 PM

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you can't juke as an apex

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:44 PM

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i would rather sidestepping be a thing

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:44 PM

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You can

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:44 PM

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then the assrider is dumb as shit

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if you get juked by an apex as a utah or cerato then you're either new to the game or just bad

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:45 PM

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With collision and a new form of alt turn then it can be good

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:46 PM

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collision and locational damage will make ass riding harder and inefficient

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and then alt turn can be made slower

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but it is a necessary mechanic

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:46 PM

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it's not eve like rex alt turn is fast

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same with trike

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:46 PM

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It can

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:46 PM

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giga is fast though

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 4:46 PM

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goddamn dummy trike

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Looks fast to me

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:47 PM

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giga alt turn is very fast

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Clearly haven't killed enough people using alt turn then

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:47 PM

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they have watched videos

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 4:47 PM

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fucking mai fucks with me and why i show that i do not like it he comes and kills me.. the fucking trike

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I've been in multiple servers and none use alt turm

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So I watch vids of it

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:47 PM

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go officials

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:47 PM

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ah yes, because watching a video and actually experiencing it are the same thing

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Nah

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Officals m ping is too high

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My

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Vralen

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I dont need to be in game

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To see how fast it looks

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When its on video

versed blaze Apr 14, 2019, 4:48 PM

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@jovial blade, I can help fix the ping. There's something you can do to lower it a bit

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:48 PM

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it shows a ping of 300 for me on officials and I still hit when I click

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:48 PM

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I feel like I'll rubber band like crazy anyway

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I think its 300 ping for me aswell

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 4:49 PM

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I'm told that the ping in the group tab actually reflects your ping

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opposed to the tab view

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Its not tab

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Its the ping next to server

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 4:50 PM

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I'd suggest playing on alt turn servers to try it, of course there are people not doing anything but turning in place, which is why I hope alt turn will get slowed down for some creatures, but hit and run still works with alt turn, just ass riding is not a thing

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@craggy river the servers can't handle more players at the moment without the AI spawns being weird, since every AI is almost as much as a player for the server

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 5:04 PM

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@craggy river Apparently the game doesn't really support server counts over 100

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 5:05 PM

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but the map could definitely hold more players

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so I hope that gets improved

vagrant crest Apr 14, 2019, 5:05 PM

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100% it could

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V3 is way too large for 100 players

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 5:06 PM

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that is why some people say it is 'too big'

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I don't think it is too big, I like that you can travel long distances without just walking in a circle like on thenyaw, but many spots on the map are way too empty

lilac swallow Apr 14, 2019, 5:18 PM

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It has the right size just not the right amount of people

jovial blade Apr 14, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Yep and people just go on certain spots because you wont really find other people if you travel

vestal jungle Apr 14, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Yeah, personally, either the map is too large or more mechanics need to be introduced to keep all players constantly moving around the map, or make it easier to find large groups of players that stay on one place for a long time (ie the scent clouds suggestion, and other suggestions that force players to move around)

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Now that I've played for a little while, I typically know the spots that people frequent and can find people, but there was a time or two when starting off where I would travel for hours without finding a single player on a full 100 person server

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Same with spawning in a place either far from water or where you can't visually see water from, as a newbie if I headed the wrong direction for water, I would just walk forever, see nobody, and then die of thirst. And by the time I'd get the RNG to respawn there again, it was easy to forget which way I'd gone

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fortunately I liked playing as a dinosaur enough to continue playing, and I had one good spawn near Pride Rock where I was a tiny dryo surrounded by predators, but wasn't exactly a riveting introductory experience on the others

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finding a balance between difficult survival and enjoyable enough for new players so that they keep playing the game is hard, but not impossible

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 6:29 PM

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I made a suggestion on (maybe) improving herbivore gameplay a bit yesterday that would make them move around the map more, but in general there need to be some things to make more spots more populated, either just water/food, interesting terrain (so no constant steep hills you can break your legs on) or something else so people want to go there or at least not specifically avoid these places

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that combined with the servers being able to hold more players without the AI bugging out would improve the map and the gameplay on it

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AI spawns need to be changed aswell, it is easier to get AI if you stay in one spot all the time than when travelling around, that should definitely not be the case

violet magnet Apr 14, 2019, 6:47 PM

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i play on a server on v3 where everybody tends to hang out at Twin Lakes, under the Radio Tower

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herbivore food HARDLY EVER spawns there, but the herbivore herds INSIST on hanging out THERE, even after what little food spawns around the lakes runs out

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 6:49 PM

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there are herbivores on officials?

violet magnet Apr 14, 2019, 6:49 PM

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there's bountiful food almost everywhere else on the map, but these players will not move and it dumb

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on an unofficial server

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 6:49 PM

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the only ones I ever see are at this lake in the mountains close to the jungle docks

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there are always 20+ bushes there

violet magnet Apr 14, 2019, 6:50 PM

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there are usually a lot of bushes up around radio tower and behind twin lakes toward the mountainside temple

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but for some reason herbis won't move from the lake that's infested with carnivores and then they cry foul when they get hunted

mental sleet Apr 14, 2019, 6:51 PM

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people don't like moving.

violet magnet Apr 14, 2019, 6:52 PM

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so in response to "people will move if food is somewhere else"...nah. They won't

shell willow Apr 14, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Because bushes spawn like carnivore ai when they get hungry lol

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not exactly like carnivore ai but still

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bushes don't run around and scream at you

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:20 PM

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@shrewd beacon Drinking is SUPPOSED to be a risk. If you could just drink while running, Deinosuchus would be completely obsolete.

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 7:20 PM

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@lethal shell is planned

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:20 PM

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^

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:24 PM

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@blazing charm but it would be for like lakes and streams where the Deinosuchus would be more visable.

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Wha-

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Hold on, just so I am 100% clear.

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Your excuse, is that you can run-by drikk in lakes and streams, where Deinosuchus would normally be.

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Not lakes

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Rivers and streams

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Or atleast shallow water

torn thistle Apr 14, 2019, 7:26 PM

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There's more aquatic predators than just Deino to worry about.

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Okay, so now no one will ever go near a lake again.

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Because why risk my life when I just do a drive by drinkie?

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:26 PM

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mm, you have a point

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 7:27 PM

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didn't dondi talk about fixing your camera in one position (or limiting your ability to move the camera around as freely as you can when walking) while drinking so it is more risky

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Also drinking while running sounds like a good way to choke.

lament thorn Apr 14, 2019, 7:27 PM

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I could see a herbivore drinking and being able to slowly walk along some shallow water

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but running is ridiculous

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:27 PM

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But the thing is, theres no choking yet

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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....

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Maybe walking, sure

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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I'm legitmately not sure how to respond to that.

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Oh man i can't wait until i can choke my friends!

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dondiSquint

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Maybe if and when choking gets added, doing that could be a way to die, and you'd have to do it while walking or doing the trot thingy

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Choking is not gonna be added what are you talking about

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:30 PM

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That wasn't like, a suggestion for a choking mechanics ffs, I am saying it would be stupid as hell to have something lower its head down to drink, WHILE RUNNING.

lament thorn Apr 14, 2019, 7:30 PM

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this conversation is truly something

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:30 PM

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This channel is truly something.

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Suggeston discussion is a plauge i'll tell you that much

lethal shell Apr 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Next topic dino sex.

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:33 PM

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oof

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 7:33 PM

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I'm happy that there has not been a shitting suggestion in more than a week (or at least that I haven't seen any)

lament thorn Apr 14, 2019, 7:33 PM

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the fact that thats something to look forward to is rather sad

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:33 PM

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again, oof

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Did someone say
Maia milk

lament thorn Apr 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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i think thats enough discussion for one day

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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mhm

vestal rune Apr 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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don't mums already make milk though?

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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agreed

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OOF

lethal shell Apr 14, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Scent trails need to be more effective. Not just foot prints.

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 7:37 PM

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scent is not finalized afaik

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but it works ok at the moment so it is not a priority

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 7:37 PM

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I think you meant to post that in Suggestions

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But, in due time.

lethal shell Apr 14, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Nope wanted to discuss it.

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 7:38 PM

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I also hope scent will be something else than glowing footprints

shrewd beacon Apr 14, 2019, 7:39 PM

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yea

umbral prairie Apr 14, 2019, 7:40 PM

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but since you can already track people and find food with the current scent system it is probably not something they will change with/shortly after the recode

lethal shell Apr 14, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Being able to smell pray/danger nearby would make the game more immersive. Also adding wind so hunting becomes more than just walking around. It would change the way you position yourself for both types.

violet magnet Apr 14, 2019, 8:45 PM

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first the poop fetishists now choking

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next: yiff

mental sleet Apr 14, 2019, 8:46 PM

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poop best mod

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@coral jetty omfg YES PLS

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 9:40 PM

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That is so easily exploitable

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Oh no I died, better switch to my other dinosaur and get my revenge.

barren zephyr Apr 14, 2019, 9:40 PM

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true

coral jetty Apr 14, 2019, 9:45 PM

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You would spawn when you left with that dino and need to search the guy who killed you

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In my opinion it's rather time wasting

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Hear me out, what if I just left all my dinosaurs in one spot, and just lured someone there?

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Imagine how shitty that would be.

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Upvoting your own suggestion.

mental sleet Apr 14, 2019, 9:50 PM

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oof

coral jetty Apr 14, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Then if you die with one if your dinos and want to play a saved one you must wait 10 min.

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Or reduce one's max dinos to 2

clever leaf Apr 14, 2019, 9:54 PM

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that doesnt stop the issue really

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 9:54 PM

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^ Not to mention, that just kills the pacing of the game

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Why not just start a new life and get right back into playing the game?

clever leaf Apr 14, 2019, 9:55 PM

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revenge can happen anytime. it's not something that only happens automatically right after the incident

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Dying is supposed to have consequences, said consequences get removed when you have lifesavers.

clever leaf Apr 14, 2019, 9:56 PM

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~~imagine the toxicity people would do with such mechanic~~

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 9:59 PM

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....

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Then, what is the point?

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🤦

coral jetty Apr 14, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Or if you died with one dino then you must wait 20 min to start with the saved one, furthermore the saved dino would spawn randomly, far from the dead one's place

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How about that

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 10:03 PM

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First of all, deleting all the previous stuff is super shady.

Second, it still has the issue of removing the risk of dying.

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Dying is SUPPOSED to have consequences.

coral jetty Apr 14, 2019, 10:04 PM

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It wont remove the risk of dying cause you can have only one more dino and if you die with that then nothing remains

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

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So, you have it ONCE per server?

coral jetty Apr 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

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I mean you can have TWO dino at one server.

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But once is good as well

blazing charm Apr 14, 2019, 10:06 PM

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This idea keeps fluctuating between 'utterly useless' and 'utterly broken'

compact coyote Apr 14, 2019, 10:09 PM

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mongyad el magyarul, lehet hogy tudok segítteni meg magyaránzi mindenki másnak

coral jetty Apr 14, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Na a lényeg hogy ha elérsz egy fullos dínót és máshoz van kedved vagy akarsz egy másik fullosat akkor át tudod csapatni magad valami mássá juvieba úgy, hogy az előző megmarad

compact coyote Apr 14, 2019, 10:24 PM

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ebben én is gondoltam már de az a probléma van vele hogy amikor megölsz valakit akkor ugyan az az eber vissza tud jönni mongyuk egy rex-el és így bosszút állt, tehát jó ötlet lenne de ez az egyetlen hiba vissza fogja hogy jó legyen

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főleg hogy ha te egy rex voltál es sikerült egy triceratopszot megölnöd, nagyon gyenge leszel utána és nagyon konnyű lessz majd téged megölni

mystic spoke Apr 14, 2019, 10:44 PM

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uh is non-english allowed in here..?

compact coyote Apr 14, 2019, 10:45 PM

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who knows

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i just explained why multiple dinosaur saves on a single server wont be a good idea, as i noticed there was a slight language barrier earlier

onyx stump Apr 14, 2019, 10:47 PM

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One dinosaur per server is the standard. Other MMO's usually don't allow multiple characters for one profile on the same server because of scum tactics, so why should The Isle be any different?

sweet oasis Apr 14, 2019, 10:47 PM

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We would prefer if you kept it to speaking English if you can.

compact coyote Apr 14, 2019, 10:47 PM

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yeah, i know

sweet oasis Apr 14, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Just as a side note. But that was fine there^^

compact coyote Apr 14, 2019, 10:47 PM

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😌

onyx stump Apr 14, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Where did all the different language channels go?

pliant ember Apr 14, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Into the void I guess

sweet oasis Apr 14, 2019, 11:01 PM

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People were using them for some unsavory things and it was a bit of a hassle to keep them

pliant ember Apr 14, 2019, 11:10 PM

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Aah ok

lethal sparrow Apr 15, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Throwing in my hat about character slots, it seems clear enough that it can work. You just need to make sure that logging into any of them means you can't log into the others until the timer runs down, and the swap timer only starts when you fully log out of that server.

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That way, you can have more than one dino on a server, but no practical way whatsoever to try to lure people to an area or contrive a revenge kill unless both A: you log out for a full hour after dying, B: they stick around the same general area for an hour for you to do so, and C: you have a big dinosaur in the area. And also D: you get the drop on them in the first place.

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It's not useless, since it means you can stock up on a couple different dinosaurs on your preferred server, but you can't exploit it. If you die, you respawn fresh using that character slot, or you take a break away from the game or on a different server. You can furthermore make it a one species per server deal, so you can't have three rexes waiting to go.

waxen elk Apr 15, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Is Utah healing 20+ minutes?

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I mean it is too much

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But Utahraptor should be by no means resistant

hardy kernel Apr 15, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Yeah i'm feeling the effects of not being able to have character slots. I exclusively play on nublar servers (3 total) And i have dinos on 1 and 2 i use to play with my friend. That leaves me only server 3 which is a map i don't like playing on.

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Really the only way i see it being abused is if you lure someone somewhere then quickly take the 45 sec log, go through the log screen, (maybe put a 45 sec lock on being able to select a dino) then attacking the lured player. And if you think about it can't it already be abused this way

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Like through family share (in servers that allow it) or owning a second steam account with the game

versed blaze Apr 15, 2019, 2:09 AM

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@lethal shell use your arrow keys as you look around. It works after some practice

lethal shell Apr 15, 2019, 2:11 AM

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I use the WASD keys but its just annoying.

coarse shell Apr 15, 2019, 2:11 AM

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i thought i was tagged for a sec when i looked in here

lethal shell Apr 15, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Guess that means 2 of us is awesome.

polar juniper Apr 15, 2019, 3:30 AM

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Cerato’s bleed could use a slight boost from 8 to 10 but his bleed resist definitely needs to be changed back to at least close to the old one.

violet magnet Apr 15, 2019, 3:36 AM

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i'm gonna start a tally for suggestions for character slots

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up to 3 now

umbral prairie Apr 15, 2019, 4:36 AM

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how would sleeping improve the game

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it's just an invitation to afk through the night without having to worry about food/water

clever leaf Apr 15, 2019, 4:39 AM

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encouraging to afk is just bad game design honestly

umbral prairie Apr 15, 2019, 4:43 AM

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it is

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but sleeping mechanics keep getting suggested

clever leaf Apr 15, 2019, 4:43 AM

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people suggest impractical stuff all the time ngl lol

umbral prairie Apr 15, 2019, 4:43 AM

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yeah true

paper oriole Apr 15, 2019, 5:00 AM

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better than poop suggestions lol

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Mild diarrhea

paper oriole Apr 15, 2019, 5:00 AM

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what if apexes got mild diarrhea while they slept 🤔 🤔

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Oh remember Maia milk

paper oriole Apr 15, 2019, 5:00 AM

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oh no i don't remember maia milk, do tell

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Guy said dinosaurs are mammals

spiral pond Apr 15, 2019, 5:01 AM

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What dondiLUL

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Omg what did I wake up to

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:02 AM

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“You can extract the milk from dead Maia corpses”

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“Male Maia’s get milk too”

paper oriole Apr 15, 2019, 5:04 AM

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...

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male maia milk lmao

lethal sparrow Apr 15, 2019, 5:20 AM

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I think sleep would actually be a neat mechanic once the ecosystem is more fleshed out.

umbral prairie Apr 15, 2019, 5:21 AM

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it would still encourage afk growing

lethal sparrow Apr 15, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Resting slows your survival bar rates while not messing with your sense, sleep slows them down even more in exchange for dimmed hearing and a filtered screen.

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Yeah, but you can't fix that until you have reason to keep moving around.

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IE, herbivores migrating to plant hotspots that spawn irrespective of their location. Carnivores following them.

umbral prairie Apr 15, 2019, 5:22 AM

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if anything it could make you heal faster, but use up food/water faster in exchange

lethal sparrow Apr 15, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Maybe healing imposes increased food & water use inherently and sleep speeds up healing?

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So, you get dinged up, you sleep to heal quicker, the survival bar mitigation still applies, and the cost is sort of a wash compared to still standing up?

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Means it's a good idea to avoid getting hurt in the first place. Helps keep carnivores from constantly trying to eat each other even though it's hugely risky.

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Same-size carnos, that is.

umbral prairie Apr 15, 2019, 5:25 AM

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@simple mesa don't play on servers that have pay to win, don't give them players

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plus I think you won't be able to just buy hypers

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I hope they make it so hypers are still a rare thing to see (so disabling them in sandbox for example)

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:26 AM

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@umbral prairie were supposed to respond to feedback in #401464048610312195

umbral prairie Apr 15, 2019, 5:27 AM

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oh ok

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:27 AM

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Yea

simple mesa Apr 15, 2019, 5:32 AM

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i know but, they just saying it donation to have life, it is like pay to win. donation is not required it should to be, but me I like also love playing non survival. that's why, why they keeping pay to have life or anything else and to have your dino you want. I playing few sever that have discord points system like that and free server. I support that server but some of them is very few player. I hope not only me will not support pay to win systerm i hope other player also. anyway thank for feedback.

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for hypo, I just saying for now don't release it. because it is to early for the game. hypo is nice but not now.

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And i think add hypo in dlc in the future. If they wany to pay for over power dino. Make it dlc.

umbral prairie Apr 15, 2019, 5:42 AM

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I don't think the devs want money for hypers

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:49 AM

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dondiSquint

misty island Apr 15, 2019, 5:51 AM

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But @simple mesa ur missing one very important point

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Renting a server cost money

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It may not be much every month

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Smthing like 70-150 usd per month but it can be a fairly big amount if it adds up

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Does he want it to be pay to win or does he not

misty island Apr 15, 2019, 5:52 AM

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No he doesn’t

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:52 AM

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confused

misty island Apr 15, 2019, 5:52 AM

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He wants free servers

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And he doesn’t want hypo in normals

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And suggested make hypo dlc

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:53 AM

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We should go to #401464048610312195 since were supposed to discuss this there

spiral pond Apr 15, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Make humans dlc, tribal dlc, cannibal dlc, titanoboa dlc

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Great idea

misty island Apr 15, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Didn’t he suggested it?

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XD Mini

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Ikr

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:54 AM

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No it was in feedback

spiral pond Apr 15, 2019, 5:54 AM

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And make every dlc worth 20 dollars

misty island Apr 15, 2019, 5:54 AM

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When does gamers ask for more paid dlc

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Oh okay then I ama stop talking about it

edgy furnace Apr 15, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Just go to isle discussion and we can still

spiral pond Apr 15, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Also this game really Won’t really be for children down the line I think

misty island Apr 15, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Ya......

jovial blade Apr 15, 2019, 7:20 AM

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It will @spiral pond

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All the hypos and strains

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And them humans with guns

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It's for all audience tbh

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Everyone loves dinosaurs

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dondiExcite

lethal sparrow Apr 15, 2019, 8:16 AM

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even the audience of screaming PTSD-afflicted children who made the mistake of going out at night with no or minimal NV equipment

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especially the PTSD afflicted children

jovial blade Apr 15, 2019, 8:51 AM

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😂

umbral prairie Apr 15, 2019, 8:59 AM

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I don't think it is intended as a game for children, but of course there will be children playing it

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although the gory stuff and tribals killing and eating each other might be a bit much for kids

lethal sparrow Apr 15, 2019, 9:22 AM

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what

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nooooo

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are you telling me that Little Timmy wasn't the target audience of this sandbox survival horror game in progress

gaunt parcel Apr 15, 2019, 9:40 AM

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dondiLUL

clear turret Apr 15, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Considering how most of the community speaks, you'd have a hard time convincing me that most of them are not children already.

spiral pond Apr 15, 2019, 11:29 AM

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Eh true

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But now it’s dino sim to them

barren zephyr Apr 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

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I just joined here and someone seriously thinks having people pay for Type-H dinosaurs is a good idea? Holy shit dondiLUL

gaunt parcel Apr 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

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dondiLUL true i'm also one of the young ones here, 17, but maybe there are younger ones 👀

barren zephyr Apr 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Trust me, there are

gaunt parcel Apr 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

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@barren zephyr

barren zephyr Apr 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

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?

gaunt parcel Apr 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

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sorry im an idiot i wanted to tell you something but accidentally pressed enter

barren zephyr Apr 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

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so tell me now? dondiThink

gaunt parcel Apr 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

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there! yeah, it's stupid to have to pay for hypos

barren zephyr Apr 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Ahh, yes

lime olive Apr 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Elaborate

barren zephyr Apr 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Read up yourself?

lime olive Apr 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Where am I reading

barren zephyr Apr 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

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It‘s all there ^

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Messages from DarkKnight05

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Suggesting a DLC for Type-H

lime olive Apr 15, 2019, 1:00 PM

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oh that, that would be neat

barren zephyr Apr 15, 2019, 1:03 PM

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How would that be neat?

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Twenty Type-H dinosaurs per server because people buy a DLC? What‘s the point of that exactly

umbral prairie Apr 15, 2019, 1:19 PM

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nothing

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just something weird surprisingly many people think will happen

barren zephyr Apr 15, 2019, 1:37 PM

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hi

blazing charm Apr 15, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Uh, hello there?

coarse shell Apr 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

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lmao

simple mesa Apr 15, 2019, 2:37 PM

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it not dlc or other thing about hypo, again It just my opinion not to release the hypo this early access game, it is very over power dino for now. no one can kill it with our current dino in survival. even if they release it at sandbox the server user have a donate to live to change non survival dino hypo will appear at survival game. I am not against it but on what I see all video about hypo it is game destroyer for now. it is not my decision, it is my opinion. it up to developer.

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if they not release it, because every player don't like it, that's be better I think for the future of the game.

jovial blade Apr 15, 2019, 2:41 PM

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All that extra detail on the corpse biting and that is too much work for something so small and pretty much pointless

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@misty island

simple mesa Apr 15, 2019, 2:42 PM

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for the comment about the server that have pay to win policy. I just saying to be fair to all player children or not. it should be fair to all gamers. I just hoping this game not be other game die in the future because they losing players.

jovial blade Apr 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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A better suggestion would be different foot marks

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The dinos have like the same foot prints

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😂

simple mesa Apr 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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hahah

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yea

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@misty island i know how the server working. it is not free I know that. The thing I saying is the work donation should be donation without any exchange other thing (like dino), we (players) donate to servers because we love it. but not donate to have a lives then exchange to instant adult dino or over power dino. that's my point. we donate for server not to be advantage to other players.

misty island Apr 15, 2019, 3:27 PM

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@jovial blade just beacue you dont use ur brain doesnt me other dont enjoy using it

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and hunting by tracks and traces is one of the big thing in any game involes tracking

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so your "too much work for something so small and pretty much pointless" doesnt have a single point

blazing charm Apr 15, 2019, 3:29 PM

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No need to insult each over over a suggestion, as for the suggestion itself I personally have to disagree, it seems like a rather pointless addition that seems like it would be more hassle to implement than it is worth.

jovial blade Apr 15, 2019, 3:32 PM

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^

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And wdym use my brain you literally want something so pointless and small

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that would take heaps of work

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I like the idea of more to tracking

blazing charm Apr 15, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Upvoting your own suggestion

hasty parcel Apr 15, 2019, 3:40 PM

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ew

delicate depot Apr 15, 2019, 3:40 PM

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This can not?

blazing charm Apr 15, 2019, 3:40 PM

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There isn't a rule against it, but it is frowned upon.

brittle ivy Apr 15, 2019, 3:40 PM

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Took the words right out of my mouth

delicate depot Apr 15, 2019, 3:41 PM

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ok

minor basalt Apr 15, 2019, 3:43 PM

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If you can't hunt a trike herd as a giga then go hunt something else

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Giga's versatile and mobile

delicate depot Apr 15, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Well, what if I do not find anything else?

minor basalt Apr 15, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Oh well i guess, sometimes you die