#general-feedback-discussion

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full flame
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True

umbral prairie
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or the territory lures in bigger predators

full flame
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Yea I can see the problem with that

umbral prairie
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it is a cool idea to have territories but I don't think it would really work

full flame
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Yea you have a point

mental sleet
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It is more of an aesthetic thing that a plausible game mechanic tbh

versed blaze
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@full scarab nothing will be added until the recode is complete

inner valley
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@fading shadow why change what they have now when it's likely just going to be changed in the recode or after it?

fading shadow
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it could be after the recode

inner valley
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But it still works fine

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It seems you resemble your mother and then get some extra stuff to make up for a lack of the father

fading shadow
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its just random

inner valley
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Well, I have literally never gotten a skin that didn't resemble my mother in any way, and usually they are very similar

pseudo falcon
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@inner birch definetly not the right chat for that

inner valley
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^

torpid wedge
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why did people wut the recent suggestion

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they mean when you can't see a group member's name against the sky

minor basalt
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an option to change the color of the name tags would be nice ye

rich adder
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@shut gale that perk thingy seems more like bob and using stamina on attacks doesn't fit to the isle tbh

shut gale
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They already said there will be a perk system. but never gave too many details on it

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just saying it could be an option đŸ€·

rich adder
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ah okay didn't know that

shut gale
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Using stam is the way to prevent them from always having the charged attack ready...

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that would obv be op x)

umbral prairie
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I mean it would depend on the perks, if the perks were that rexes could suddently be fishing dinos then it would feel like bob

rich adder
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might just give it a good attack that breaks legs

shut gale
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@umbral prairie agreed x)

rich adder
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like it already does

shut gale
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@rich adder oh the anky on that version has BB

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not RNG kind*

rich adder
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why is reduced growth time for herbs bad exactly?

umbral prairie
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depends on how much it get's reduced

rich adder
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nobody plays them

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cause they're worse than carnis

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therefore making them grow faster would make it easier to populate servers with herbs and let carni players hunt more 😛

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making the game more interesting

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there's already AI for juvies to hunt

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if they see an adult trike then they just have to grow to be able to have a chance of taking it down

umbral prairie
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herbs need more things to do besides running down juvies

rich adder
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why running down juvies tho

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I mean I remember agressive shants

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that was a nightmare

umbral prairie
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because they sit on a mountain in a big herd and have nothing to do

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I was in a maia herd once and they always ran towards juvie/dilo/utah calls to kill them

rich adder
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well then it's not really the game's fault

umbral prairie
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yeah but it is happening because herbs do nothing

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besides chatting with the herd

rich adder
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yeah

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but what do you expect from playing herbs tho

umbral prairie
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they need more to do, but I'm not sure what that would be

rich adder
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I agree that they should do more

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but what is a hard question

umbral prairie
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one of the problems might be how food works for them right now

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I had the idea on giving things like trike a very slow food drain but they would also need to eat massive amounts of food to fil their stomachs again, so they would have time to lay around in plains for a while, but they would have to migrate to fill their stomachs again. Food spawning everywhere but close to herbis would help with that

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adding to that, maybe make things like trike be able to gestate/incubate 4 eggs at once, and because they have so much food they could easily feed their hatchlings but they would have to migrate once they turn into juvies to feed themselves and their juvies

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Just an idea on how to encourage herds to wander around without just making them starve constantly, because right now herds can lay around one area for hours

uneven epoch
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maybe they could also make it so certain herbis can only nest in certain areas like trikes could only nest at some plain or river or whatever but that would help make them move around more

keen trail
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The territory thing about roaring makes no sense. If someone wants to 1 call but not want territory what do they do? Just have random territory every where? Also it’d give positions away with that map and kind of force you to keep to 1 area, which means no exploring for territory owners and we all know that Rex pairs/packs would own every bit of territory on the map.

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@fleet lodge that would ruin mega migrations.

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I am gonna be commenting on a lot of stuff btw. I don’t think ceras are really scavengers though. I see them more of a pack hunter. I feel like the only scavengers in the game would be herras, austros, velos, and Juvie dinos.

pseudo falcon
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@shut gale I'm torn between agreeing and disagreeing. Personally I wouldn't like the idea of charged attacks, but like the idea of a stun effect and armour as a great way to make something tough to kill without giving them too much weight.

shut gale
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@pseudo falcon what don't you like about the charge attack?

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Imo it brings something to play around. and less spam clicking.. which we have to much currently already... else the stego and anky will just be... left click left click left click with nothing to play around

pseudo falcon
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I mean, I like charged attacks in video games mechanically, but it does take away from immersion a bit. You can't really charge an attack in real life. You you have to build up momentum.

shut gale
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well yeah they would basicaly build momentum on their tails

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to hit

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harder*

pseudo falcon
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I'd rather have it so regular attacks for anky take stamina.

shut gale
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but that would just be left click spam <.<

pseudo falcon
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Not with positional hit boxes. Besides, even with a charge attack, people would still spam click

shut gale
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yeah they could

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but their Dps would be extremely reduced

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see the difference in the damage between fast attacks and strong ones?

pseudo falcon
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Right, it's pretty dramatic

shut gale
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yeah thats kind of the point

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counter play....

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its like having the trike stomp hitting like a truck and the gore being soft damage

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gives counter play to the dino

pseudo falcon
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I just see it like this:

  • Good player
    Pays attention to what parts of the body he hits, making sure he takes the necessary time between attacks to hit the optimal locations and get the most out of his attacks
  • Bad player
    Spams attacks, hoping a majority land on vital points.
shut gale
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ok i'm assuming you're counting on a pretty advanced locational damage system

pseudo falcon
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Right

shut gale
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i'm just counting on head / body / tail

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x)

pseudo falcon
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Add legs to that list and possibly jaw and you have my list

shut gale
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and i doubt it will be different ....

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well we'll see... but all those things could be used the charge attack aswell

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you don't have to charge it all the way for example

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just the more you charge the more damage it does...

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so you could still let go early to hit somewhere you want

pseudo falcon
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Right, I'm just thinking how would they make the charge up convincing visually

shut gale
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just curling the tail one way

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and let go would make it go the other

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fast and hard

pseudo falcon
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The charge up would have to be quite quick

shut gale
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pretty sure these devs can make it look good and feel good

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yeah thats all numbers tho myn

pseudo falcon
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As there's not really a benefit to stopping your tail to charge FURTHER BEYOND

shut gale
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it can be changed until it feels good

pseudo falcon
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Currently the image a charge attack puts in my head is like super smash bros style

shut gale
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xD

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aite one sec

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leme see if i can find something for you from another game

pseudo falcon
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Lel

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I also kinda feel like a heavier attack cooldown on dinos like anky and stego would help

shut gale
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what do you mean cooldown?

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like the same as the fast attack but with a cooldown?

pseudo falcon
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Well, the time it takes before you can do another attack

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Kinda like a stomp from trike

shut gale
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well yeah thats kind of the point

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if you miss the charge attack

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it leaves you open to be punished

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if you hit tho ... oof

pseudo falcon
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I can see it being fun. Just needs a bit of depth for me to be sold by the idea

shut gale
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ahaha

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well so far its kind like you're saying you want it

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takes time to charge. but you can let go early. if you miss there's 2-3 secs before you can charge it again

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Takes stam away while you charge so there's a punishesment to just holding it forever

pseudo falcon
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But that feels like a mechanic exclusively there for balance purposes

shut gale
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its supose to make you a hard hitting mofo

pseudo falcon
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Kinda feel like the charge up should take no stam, the attack itself should

shut gale
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well people can just hold the attack forever then...

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but maybe

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would depend on how it would actually play đŸ€·

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but it could work that way tbh

keen trail
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Hold the attack forever and do 100,000N lol

shut gale
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@keen trail it has a cap aswell

keen trail
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Ah

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That would be good

shut gale
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it says there...

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yeah... x)

keen trail
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I was joking

fleet lodge
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@keen trail How would that ruin mega migrations it would cull the entire apex population

keen trail
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Just think, if a server admin was doing say a rex mega migration but they all should be in the same group, if there could only be 5 or 6 limit then that would mess it up. It could be in server options though you could set the limit. That may be what you meant, sorry if I misunderstood

fleet lodge
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Why would there be a limit on a non official server

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official servers should have groups of 2 max so people can't just sit there and grow with their buddies

lone crypt
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^^^^

edgy furnace
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@knotty whale no one wants pink rex including the devs dondiLUL

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Only pink rex were gonna have is the glitched one in the skin creator

knotty whale
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lies

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pink rex would be good and you know it

edgy furnace
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The devs want natural colors not neon pink

knotty whale
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not neon pink

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I didn't say neon pink

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I just said pink

edgy furnace
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Or any pink really

knotty whale
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so...

edgy furnace
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They just want natural colors

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And most players don’t want those kind of colors

knotty whale
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#66004d [ rgb(102, 0, 77) ]

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or

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#4d0039 [ rgb(77, 0, 57) ]

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or

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#330026 [ rgb(51, 0, 38) ]

edgy furnace
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I’m all for new colors but pink isn’t a good one it’d just look weird

jolly willow
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Purple and pink are likely nono colors

edgy furnace
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Yeah

jolly willow
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Far far too outworldly and there is no natural kind of purple/pink

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You cant tone down either enough to get it to look not stupid.

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Blue however is confirmed

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Coldsteel, I believe.

knotty whale
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Lies

jolly willow
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Dondi is figuring out what dinos it works out on

knotty whale
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Natural pink there is

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in animals and such

barren zephyr
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Flamingoes

knotty whale
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besides them

jolly willow
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Hold on

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actually wait.

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Are there any other natural pink animals..

barren zephyr
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Even then, flamingoes aren't an excuse to have pink carnivorous death machines

jolly willow
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^

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I mean MAYBE.

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But like

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This still

knotty whale
jolly willow
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Would not look natural/good

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ingame

knotty whale
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there u go

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just read it

barren zephyr
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There is probably some fish and obscure lizards with pink

jolly willow
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... axolotl pink

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Now I'm kinda interested.

barren zephyr
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But anyways

knotty whale
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Yeee

jolly willow
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Still

edgy furnace
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It just doesn’t work for dinos

jolly willow
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None of these are "natural" enough

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Like

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ANY pink

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Or purple

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Ingame

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On a dino/creature

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Is just..

edgy furnace
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They don’t look good on a Dino

barren zephyr
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oh steel blue, is that suchos👀

knotty whale
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Lies

jolly willow
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It cannot look natural

knotty whale
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a dark purple could look good on a dinosaur

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Or, look at the Anjanath from MHW

edgy furnace
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Dark purple wouldn’t work imo

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Or any purple

barren zephyr
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anjanath has black fur so the pink doesnt look to gross

jolly willow
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Anjanaths pink..

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Its a fleshy pink

knotty whale
barren zephyr
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Yeah cuz it looked like a vulture, it's feathers contrasted with the pink

jolly willow
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Very fleshy

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Ye

edgy furnace
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Ew

knotty whale
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but stilllll

jolly willow
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That still wouldnt work :/

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I dont htink

edgy furnace
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That’s ugly as heck

jolly willow
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Pink and purple ar ejust

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no no

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No bueno colors

barren zephyr
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Even then, we don't want to give the community the option of pink

knotty whale
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Dark purple COULD look good on a dinosaur

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like, a darker purple

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maybe

barren zephyr
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All we'd see are sun burned looking dinosaurs

jolly willow
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yeaaa

knotty whale
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I'd thought I'd just entertain the idea

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Try that for a moment? Hmmm?

edgy furnace
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I mean maybe a dark purple would work on some herbi

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A carni shouldn’t have any pink or purple

knotty whale
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Yes, I agree. Carni shouldn't

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but maaayyyybeee herbi

edgy furnace
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your suggestion says pink rex though dondiLUL

barren zephyr
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At the most I could see like a plum purple on the throats of some dinosaurs

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But even then it would look like a bruise

knotty whale
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@edgy furnace yes, but ideas change

edgy furnace
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đŸ…±ing

knotty whale
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@barren zephyr 1) maybe, maybe not 2) pessimistic lies

barren zephyr
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If you're an optimist then you'll always be disappointed

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But anyways

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No purple or pink on these god damn giant lizard things

edgy furnace
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Prehistoric bird things*

barren zephyr
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I don't see any feathers

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You could argue austro, but it ain't in surv

umbral prairie
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If the static HUD icons showed the amount of food/water accurately we wouldn't need the percentages

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but if they stay the way they are now percentages would be nice

barren zephyr
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One other issue I have is it looks full but I’ll check it under character and it’ll have to go back to drinking water

pure summit
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AI spawns in a way too predictable pattern that is really unrealistic

umbral prairie
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I think it would be cool to have bigger AI like hadrosaur herds spawning randomly on the map, encouraging mid tier packs and apexes to wander around more

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plus with bigger AI there is less AI needed to feed all the players so the server could handle more players

stuck bison
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Eventually there will be AI of all the dinos.

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I think they have to wait till after the recode before they can manage more AI, currently from what I heard the way AI is set up it takes up player slots which is why it's limited like it is.

edgy furnace
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Oh god another poop suggestion

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@primal minnow I’m assuming you want a chameleon like dinosaur that changes colors depending on what it is like camouflage

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Is that correct?

valid flower
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it doesnt fit in the game @primal minnow

edgy furnace
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^

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It really doesn’t

primal minnow
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Yes

edgy furnace
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Chameleons change their color depending on their mood dondiLUL

barren zephyr
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it does as strain

edgy furnace
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So that wouldn’t even work

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Oh maybe

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They change their color depending on the heat and their mood

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So it’s not camo

south flower
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As a strain, maybe it could work, but it would probably be very difficult to pull off. Maybe it could be like those skins made for the servers with the glowing skins. But for normal dinosaurs? I don’t think there was ever any species that did change skin colors, unless I’m mistaken.

edgy furnace
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I mean I doubt there’s anyway to tell if it could change colors thru some bones

barren zephyr
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its a game, it can happen

ionic summit
coarse thicket
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Tisso strains are the closest you can get tho chameleons as some have been hinted to have some sort of Camo ability.

ionic summit
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sorry to ruin the Tisso convo 😩

edgy furnace
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That’s not a suggestion discussion oof

stuck bison
nocturne blaze
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@primal minnow what do you mean by chameleon dinosaurs

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I'm not sure if those exist

waxen elk
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What’s that?

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UncleRaptor complaining about Giga not being god?

primal minnow
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@nocturne blaze Im not sure either

barren zephyr
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@frank quest i like it

coarse thicket
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Dinosaurs teleporting while walking and being “slow” to do actions is due to rubber-banding and lag. Have you checked your ping and connection? Do your system requirements match those needed to run the Isle?

pulsar lake
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Don't nerf rex bone break to 30%
You are crazy!

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50% or 60% and this will be good

umbral prairie
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@strange adder body carrying/dragging is planned

vestal rune
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why nerf it at all?

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it would just make it get decked by gigas tbh

pulsar lake
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Just wait collision and fight systems.

lilac swallow
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When people will learn giga isnt mean to fight rex? In fact giga is better than rex at hunting everything but people only seem to care of the giga vs rex

barren zephyr
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the Giga must not be stronger than the rex .. but it must compete .... instead now the rex attack the Giga like they were Maia

tawdry laurel
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If I'm on giga and I see a rex, if I can engage it before he notices me... I will. just to eliminate the threat.

lilac swallow
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Just...run away

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The rex can only catch you if it is stupidly close

lone crypt
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^^

minor basalt
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it does compete

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it eats everything before the rex does

lilac swallow
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And dont say im biased towards rex in fact the only apex who i play is trike i am here the guy who should be asking for a rex nerf

jolly willow
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@regal pecan What's wrong with my suggest :?

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How do you propose we make trike viable then

lilac swallow
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@jolly willow true, in fact if trike cant even outsam nor outrun the other to apex it should at least be the strongest combat wise,
Like with giga, giga is slower than rex but no to a point that make giga's stam supperiority useless is just a bit slower

jolly willow
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Both apexes can facetank/kill it ez

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It's no threat rn lol

regal pecan
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Trike is already viable...doesnt need dmg buff. And you re wrong...Giga cant win the facetank

jolly willow
regal pecan
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if you have any doubts go test it out....

lilac swallow
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Giga just bite three times and let trike bleed even if giga has gotten horned

regal pecan
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thats not a facetank....

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lol

lilac swallow
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He has said face tank/kill easy

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/ means something

regal pecan
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facetank is staying face to face bitting each other...what you re saying isnt a facetank situation...i quote "Giga just bite three times and let trike bleed even if giga has gotten horned"

jolly willow
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Seems like some people are saying they got different test results

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Fair enough

regal pecan
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you mentioned in your suggestion facetank...and the only dino that can facetank a Triceratops is indeed a Rex..thats a known fact

jolly willow
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Some people are saying trike curbstomps rex rn

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đŸ€”

paper oriole
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Yeah if the rex has no idea what theyre doing lol

pulsar lake
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Rex can do 1v2 in offi

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With alt

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For giga

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But yes

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Do trike more powerful

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And a real apex and not an apex meal

lilac swallow
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There is no point in playing something weaker and half the speed of the most popular dino

paper oriole
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I mean look at those horns and tell me that shit wouldnt impale even a rex that was standing stationary. Not saying trike should be going around oneshotting with impales but it is dumb af seeing it slash and stab with those thing and it not doing anything significant to a rex

pulsar lake
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Trike, and herbs, needs a buff

paper oriole
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Herbs shouldnt take so long to grow for how mistreated they are

pulsar lake
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Like pachy, bleed resistance, para, speed, diablo, speed too, trike, damage and hunger.

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Yes

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They are never played in offi now

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But in role play server they are

paper oriole
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Another apex herb in survival like shant and cama, being slow but with great damage would be nice

pulsar lake
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Stego will come soon

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And I think anky will be in survival

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Cama probably

clever leaf
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shant can be ai

paper oriole
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I wonder how much its damage will be reduced before its put in surv

clever leaf
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playable shant would be pretty gay

paper oriole
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Be another instant rex snack probably

pulsar lake
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I've hated shant's players

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With bone break

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shant bone break

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But base trike damage and stomp damage should be buff

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But

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His bleed nerfed

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I'll go sleep bye

edgy furnace
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@keen trail dondi said no April fools stuff so

keen trail
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Dadgummit

edgy furnace
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And the starving thing would make a lot of people mad so that’s not a good idea

white falcon
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@lone crypt about your hide/seek type gamemode:

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  1. I do think that things shouldn't lose food/water that fast, but they shouldn't have infinite food. Maybe for carnivores have randomly spawning corpses that the seeker (who WOULD have infinite food and water) would not be able to see.
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  1. Bone break should be a thing, but not bleed. Don't make people die instead of breaking a leg; the seeker should still have to try and find them.
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ok das it p good idea

keen trail
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I like that most recent suggestion, make it much easier for Juvies to get food

coarse thicket
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Lol what would happen if you managed to crawl into a space the strain can’t fit so they can’t get you for hide and seek? XD

white falcon
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They could probably add an invisible collision hitbox to all of those areas/have the creatures be too large to fit. Medium size, maybe dibbles?

shut kindle
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Hey, been watching this game a lot, it's pretty interesting

sweet zephyr
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@lone crypt Did you mean to send a video of the rastosuchus reveal?

jolly willow
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^

lone crypt
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no

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@sweet zephyr fixed it

cyan beacon
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As for the suicide button, probably not - last time it caused so many issues. Lots of lag and dead bodies at spawn points

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Resetting and having your body despawn isn't a terrible idea but it would depend on what the devs want

versed blaze
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There is in Sandbox mode./....

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respawn

cyan beacon
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well yeah

versed blaze
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Lulz

cyan beacon
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I suspected this is in reference to an actual game mode.

jolly willow
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i dont think we'll ever get a respawn/reset

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don said that drowning yourself to get a better spawnpoint will likely worsen your affinity too so

still temple
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@sweet zephyr whats rastosuchus

still temple
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that's a rauisuchus

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but what the hecc is a rastosuchus

lone crypt
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what dondi called a rauisuchus

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lol

sweet zephyr
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Dondi pronounced it like that

still temple
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o lmao

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still want to see a rauisuchid in game dondiSucc

paper oriole
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that looks like a giga with big neck fat

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i love it

shadow path
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They should add hypo herbs.

oblique crown
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Looks like a couch potato.

polar juniper
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For those of you that think Cerato needs a bleed resist buff, what do you guys think of the idea of Cerato and Carno (who has pretty decent bleed resist) swapping bleed resist with each other?

jolly willow
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nay

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Carnos bleed res is fine as it is afaik.

polar juniper
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Should Cerato have bleed resist that’s just as good or better?

jolly willow
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Well cerato was intended to have good bleed res

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So maybe just as good or a bit better

shut gale
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@hollow berry you comment on suggestions here 😛

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before the police comes 👀

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And yes it might be too strong but if it were the case it can always be tuned down. its just numbers.... its easy to change

hollow berry
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Reducing damage, speed and stamina with only one attack is way too strong. It would be still a strong attack if it only would reduce one of those stats.

shut gale
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i was thinking it could become stronger depending on how much venom it had stacked on the target

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so 10 venom it would be like a 2% reduction but 90 venom would be like 18% reduction on those things

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either become a sort of passive or an individual attack x)

hollow berry
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passive would make more sense I guess. Would be weird if a bite on left click doesn't deal poison but the right click does. They should spit it at that point. đŸ€”

shut gale
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spiting stuff uh.. needs to be well thought

hollow berry
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Yeah I know, but it would be weird. If their bites are poisonous they should always be.

shut gale
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but yeah a passive that works with venom would probably be the best way to implement it

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yeah. basically your bites apply poison, and the more poison ur target has the more debuff it gets

paper oriole
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the rex seems to get the easiest use attack of them all, how surprising lol

shut gale
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well do you have any better ideas? x)

hollow berry
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You could nerf the rexes bone break when he gets that attack.

shut gale
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ah i'm hoping the rex gets a Reworked BB system

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something like this...

jolly willow
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Isn't a BB rework confirmed tho.

shut gale
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*Bone break in this version would work in the same stacking system as bleed but giving speed debuffs instead depending on much you got stacked on you:

30: 6% less speed
70: 15% less speed
100: bone break as it is right now


jolly willow
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Aim-based IIRC

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đŸ€”

shut gale
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RNG? yikes <.<

jolly willow
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wat

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Wdym

shut gale
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oh i see what you meant

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ah.... we'll see....

jolly willow
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Like, bite the leg or whatever

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etc etc

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My only worry

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is that the wonky hitboxes will shit it up

shut gale
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yeah...

paper oriole
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trike charge looks very easy to miss too like only chance youd have is on a stationary or BBed target

jolly willow
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But the recode will hopefully/probably fix that

paper oriole
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special attacks would be nice tho

jolly willow
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And I mean anything

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is better than chance/RNG

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especially when said mechanic

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slows you down instantly

shut gale
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@paper oriole yeah hard to hit but rewarding

jolly willow
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and makes you unable to alt turn

shut gale
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And it actually shouldn't be that hard to hit apexes with it... ( the charge )

jolly willow
#

ye

torpid wedge
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@lone crypt if it’s anything like how pouncing used to be, they’ll lose stam very quickly

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i remember it draining tons of stam lol

sweet zephyr
#

@median mortar The 3 call is essentially that

raven ether
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Shouldn’t Dilos spit poison?

cyan flame
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No? :p

still temple
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@raven ether why would they

raven ether
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I’ve researched them and most articles saying they subdued there prey by spitting poison at there faces.

still temple
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no.

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research as in taking a 5 second google search and pulling up the top 3 links

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irl dilo has no evidence of venom or venom spitting, TI's dilo has anti coagulant venom which basically = u get rly bad bleed

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spitting iirc is gonna be reserved for "monster dilo", but that was a long time ago

compact coyote
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@light oak im gonna be honest, waterkin herbivore sounds a little stupid, especially with a certain other aquatic playable soon to come...

light oak
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Aquatic is a thing, water kin is other thing

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Also, all we know about coming aquatics are all carnivores

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The idea is just a herbivore that can use water to escape or migrate due to its good swimming stats

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Imnot saying that paras should be aquatic, that is stupid.

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@compact coyote imagine a herd of paras that can escape from an attack near twin lakes swimming to the other shore, or migrating together via the lazy river

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I think is a good idea, not only to diverse tactics, but also to separate maias from paras, that rn are basically the same

compact coyote
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centering para around having a good escape only in the water is useless no?

pulsar lake
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Para

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Can't really escape his predator

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He can't escape at allo and giga

compact coyote
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is faster than a giga

pulsar lake
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The giga trot is faster

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You'll run

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And he'll trot behind you

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You'll use stam

compact coyote
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keep running

pulsar lake
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Scent

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Giga scent and follow you

light oak
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@compact coyote is still having the same Stats as it's now, it will just have a easier time swimming...

pulsar lake
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And will caugth you if he is determined

compact coyote
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then just keep running

pulsar lake
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But the giga will caugth him

light oak
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If rn is playable, what's so revolutionary about giving it better swim stats?

pulsar lake
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You'll run

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Burn your stam

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And giga will come back faster

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And you'll don't have stam

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And he'll kill you

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And he can follow you toward the map

compact coyote
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para can run for a good 4 minutes

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you can literally run 4 times as much a giga can

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it wont catch up

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unless if you are actually letting it catch up

pulsar lake
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Allo have 4 minutes

compact coyote
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3 shot allos

pulsar lake
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But para is 3:30 or something else

compact coyote
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although you cant cause kick hitbox is broken, but thats not exactly a stat problem

pulsar lake
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The giga can follow everything toward the map

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Excepted

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Galli

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And maĂŻa

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And after

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Allo can easy kill a para

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WITH BLEED

compact coyote
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allo runs for 3 minutes, not 4

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again, para should have 0 trouble with a solo allo, the kick hitbox is broken making the fight longer than it should be

pulsar lake
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Yes hit box is shitty

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But it's so hard to do a stomp

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And tuch the allo

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If he come behind you and bite you one time

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And go out

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On para you'll never use only stomp

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It will be rare

compact coyote
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ok, now what are you trying to say with this

pulsar lake
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You'll use heabut

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Para is not enough fast

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We need a para with 36kmph

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Or 37

pulsar lake
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But not faster than Cerato

compact coyote
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is same speed as allo

pulsar lake
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Just "Why the fuck?"

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Para was the best Dino and now he is one of the most shitty in the game

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He need more speed

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Faster than allo

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Not same speed

compact coyote
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so youre saying hes best when running down anything smaller than it?

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cause thats how it used to be

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it basically negated dilo cerato and allo

pulsar lake
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No

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Not faster than Cerato

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But faster than allo

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Only this

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And it will be good

compact coyote
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its already the same speed as allo and runs for longer than it

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it doesnt need to be sped up, it needs its kick hitbox fixed and maybe alt turn buff

pulsar lake
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Why a para need to do damage?

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He need to run

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And be stronger than all mid tier

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Except allo, sucho and diablo

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He can figth all little carnivore like carno or Cerato

barren zephyr
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buff speed nerf damage then

pulsar lake
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Damage is good

barren zephyr
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hadros should have a escape playstyle

pulsar lake
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But just 2kmph more

barren zephyr
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naw if youre gonna make it faster dont have it 1 shot allos

pulsar lake
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34,2 is not enough

barren zephyr
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2 shot maybe

pulsar lake
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He doesn't one shot allo

compact coyote
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it 3 shots allos in a stomp

pulsar lake
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Ok

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Two shot carno but the carno is almost dead

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And same for Cerato

barren zephyr
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naw i think it should 2 shot a carno and kill it

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cerato should survive however

pulsar lake
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Yes two shot with stomp

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But more headbuts like 3 or 4 and carno die

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With o lu one stomp

barren zephyr
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honestly heabutts on para seem weird

pulsar lake
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Para was better before dondiSucc

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Yes

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Hit box is weird

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rex

barren zephyr
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naw i meand the fact that it heabutts with a giant crest

pulsar lake
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trike

barren zephyr
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is wierd to me

pulsar lake
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Oh

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Yes but if he don't have this

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It can't defend itself

barren zephyr
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he can stomp

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or flee

pulsar lake
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Yes but don't do only stomp

compact coyote
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wdym

barren zephyr
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fight or flight

pulsar lake
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Headbutt is

barren zephyr
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or give it a weaker but mobile kick while running

pulsar lake
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Normal for me

barren zephyr
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just seens wierd to me that it would headbutt, maia i get it, it doesent have a crest

pulsar lake
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It's bones

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But can't bone break

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If he can bone break

compact coyote
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NO

pulsar lake
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He broke his crest

compact coyote
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im just gonna say that now, never ever bring back bonebreak for hadros

barren zephyr
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Para is one of those i would not want bb

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or maia

pulsar lake
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MaĂŻa ok

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A little

compact coyote
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its not only retarded, but easily abusable

barren zephyr
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no

compact coyote
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no

pulsar lake
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But nor like rex

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Other type of bone break

spiral pond
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i would only bb for para kick only to allo and smaller

barren zephyr
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just no leave bb for pachy,anky,stego and maybe trike

pulsar lake
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Stomp para can broke ribs

compact coyote
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pachy doesnt need bb atm

still temple
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Hadrosaurs shouldnt get any form of BB (unless it's one of those massive ones like Edmonto or Shantungo)

pulsar lake
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Or do some bleed

spiral pond
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but yea para should be faster then allo by a bit

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36 is too much

compact coyote
spiral pond
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maybe 34,5 to 35

pulsar lake
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It's 34,3

still temple
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0.5 difference wen

barren zephyr
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no bleed or bb on either maia or para

pulsar lake
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35,7 is good

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Or almost 36

barren zephyr
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thats just asking to be removed like shant

pulsar lake
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But nor faster than Cerato

spiral pond
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35.6

pulsar lake
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If you can't run away from a predator, you can't really figth him

spiral pond
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1km slower then cera

compact coyote
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fucking

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all para needs atm, is a hitbox fix to its stomp

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thats it

barren zephyr
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and its ability

compact coyote
#

everything needs its ability

barren zephyr
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wich none knows

pulsar lake
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Utah need it so much!

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Pounce

spiral pond
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but tbh in my opinion would be best to fix the hitbox, and make it faster by allo by a really small bit like 0.3

pulsar lake
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Utah will be playable when this will come

compact coyote
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its the same speed as allo and runs for longer

pulsar lake
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He need to out run it and don't figth it

compact coyote
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it can run, or it can fight if the hitbox is fixed

spiral pond
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doesnt allo have better trot

compact coyote
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it does

pulsar lake
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Poor steacky para

spiral pond
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then it can trot the para down

compact coyote
#

dude

pulsar lake
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Like

spiral pond
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since scent

pulsar lake
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GIGA

spiral pond
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also para stam regen is so shit its sad

compact coyote
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fucking

pulsar lake
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All para's regen are bad

compact coyote
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youre not listening

pulsar lake
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Ambush

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A good trot and scent are the most broken weapons in the game

compact coyote
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para 3 shots allo with stomp, which is why the hitbox needs to be fixed so it can fight it

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like, a solo allo shouldnt be hunting a para anyways

pulsar lake
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Para need good stomp damage

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But not good headbuts damage

spiral pond
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it has good stomp dmg

compact coyote
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a para if it doesnt want to fight for whatever reason can then run, its the same speed as allo and can run for a minute longer

pulsar lake
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If he have these damage okay

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But do it able to run away from allo

spiral pond
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you cant run away cause the allo will trot you down and then ambush you when you have low stam

pulsar lake
#

Who is his primary predator in the isle

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I know

spiral pond
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so you cant defend yourself really

pulsar lake
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It's why we need a para speed buff

compact coyote
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ok,

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youre not listening

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you can run for a whole minute longer than allo

pulsar lake
#

But allo will find you again

compact coyote
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which is enough to get far enough away for you to start regening stam

pulsar lake
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If he scent

compact coyote
#

then you can run again

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or fight

pulsar lake
#

His regen is so bad

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And the allo will be in ambush

compact coyote
#

which is why para just needs its hitboxes fixed and not get a speedbuff

pulsar lake
#

And he'll bite you

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Para

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Will

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Never

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Only

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STOMP

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You'll do more headbutt but if you sucess to do a stomp the guy will probably go away

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You can do only 7 stomp

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And if allo get 2 stomp

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He'll go out of fight

normal fern
#

Para vs Allo is actually balanced leave it how it is

pulsar lake
#

Para don't need to figth

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He need to run

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It was better before

barren zephyr
#

yeah il agree with levi, it should be more of a run away splaytyle

clever leaf
#

Except it used that speed to run down allo

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And dilo

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And maias already runaway. If para was just a runaway too then they'd be the same thing

pulsar lake
#

Run away from allo and apex

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But solo

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If you are 2

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You still able to figth an allo

minor basalt
#

Paras fine as is

pulsar lake
#

Need one kmph more

minor basalt
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why

pulsar lake
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For escape of his predator

clever leaf
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It just needs kick hitbox fixed

pulsar lake
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Did you understand you can't do only stomp attack?

clever leaf
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It outstams rex. Giga can only catch you in ambush but if you're in the open and you see it then you can escape

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If you're a big distance away

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And you have the stam

pulsar lake
#

Th problem is not really apex

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It's allo

clever leaf
#

Again

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3 kicks can kill allo

pulsar lake
#

You'll

clever leaf
#

It's just the issue of hitbox

pulsar lake
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Don't use

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Stomp

clever leaf
#

... because hitbox

pulsar lake
#

Only stomp is impossible

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No

clever leaf
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That needs fixing

pulsar lake
#

He can dodge it easy

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I've killed so many Para with this tactic

lilac swallow
#

Stomp burns stam you cant spam it

pulsar lake
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Do para stomp and go behind it

clever leaf
#

It's not like it can't run because it's a bit faster and has a minute more stam

pulsar lake
#

You are in a plain.
An allo is in the trees, you've not see him

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He have 10 second ambush

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He run to you and you can't escape it

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He'll bite you and you'll can't move because you have bleed

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If you are solo

#

You are fucked up

clever leaf
#

Lol if you're in the plain and as soon as you see him, if you're far enough you can escape if his ambush time runs out

pulsar lake
#

Not really because he run at 44 kmph

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Hell just run to you

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And caught you

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If you are not at more than 100 or 150 meters away

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And predators will always comes to you

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For be sure to bite you one time

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Just 1 bite to 1 bite

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It's useless to spam attack on bleeder

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I was a big para player before his nerd and I'm so sad for him

hallow vigil
#

How to scape things that can trot you down: run away and lose it through the trees/forest, regen stam, run some more, profit. They won't follow forever, especially when avas are a thing

coarse thicket
#

If anything gets close enough to ambush you then you should be screwed. Para shouldn’t be able to easily escape an ambushing allo.

civic sky
#

I personally think it should easily overpower a solo allo.

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But at the same time that allo can ambush it and kill it.

barren zephyr
#

its a tought call really, with only its ability being the tide breaker

astral oyster
#

I think razor brings up a good point. There are so many sharp-tooth. I rarely ever see a herb, and when I do it's usually a sub adult.

vestal rune
#

@wicked escarp just wanted to say that heavier dinos already have a less chance of getting bb from an attack

wicked escarp
#

I meant like dinos for example giga shouldnt have a high chance to get a bone break from the rex, because they are similar in weight

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Or just when the attack lands on the body, but thats with the locational damage

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@astral oyster I also think biting chunks from bigger dinos should fill your hunger a bit, but that would require too much work for the devs probably

vestal rune
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it already doesn't lol

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bonebreak chance scales with mass

feral verge
#

@lone crypt the allo is fucked atm, its been like that ever since IK came out. They didn't change the animations - the ik fucked its leg up and now it's doing all of its animations weirdly and it looks ugly af. Ive reported it in bugs tons of times but they haven't even fixed it or looked at it. If you go in game you can see it's left leg shaking, think that's what's making it look weird

lone crypt
#

Yeah i know, but I’m talking about how stiff the allo movements are

wicked escarp
#

Didnt know that. Overall the problem is locational damage then@vestal rune

vestal rune
#

ye ik, just wanted to let you know

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can't wait for the combat overhaul

edgy furnace
#

@jade tiger most likely not coming to console

#

It’s expensive to make a console port and it’s not even finished yet

vestal rune
#

I believe family sharing is already disabled

#

they disabled it a long time ago

#

people are just so dedicated to fucking up the isle they buy it multiple times lmao

neat flicker
#

family sharing is still enabled currently

#

@vestal rune

vestal rune
#

wait really?

#

why did they re-enable it?

#

I swear family sharing is a server option, and the official servers almost certainly have it disabled

echo bridge
#

They used to, but i guess they turned it off because people would just buy the game again on their alts if they really want to

#

Just gotta accept it as a fact of the game really

neat flicker
#

I'm pretty sure they still have it enabled, however I will test it out right now for science! I ran into someone else a few weeks ago who did family share and they were on the official servers. But I'll test it right now and report back for the official servers. I know it works for unofficial

torpid wedge
#

it is.

neat flicker
#

It's still enabled.

jovial skiff
#

@valid flower Anky isn't in survival yet so its pretty irrelevant as of now.

valid flower
#

yeah true but,

#

it's still in the game

#

And I hope stego and anky gets in survival

jovial skiff
#

Stego is confirmed

valid flower
#

rlly?

#

holy shit

blazing charm
#

Dinosaurs that aren't in survival aren't a priority atm

jovial skiff
#

the model is ready and shown too

valid flower
#

fucking excited

jovial skiff
valid flower
#

aigh sick ty

umbral prairie
#

watch bryans stream, the new stego is there pushing a shopping cart

native nebula
#

Nice. I believe the official FB page is down at the moment since it hadn't been used in a long time, we'll probably revamp it at some point in the future.

shell willow
#

The thing about family sharing is that people will find ways to get around it, even if it means buying the game again on an alt. It's going to happen and nothing will stop it completely.

sweet oasis
#

Family sharing is still a huge problem when it comes to administrating servers. People can just go make a new Steam account in 2 minutes, family share, and bam - they can easily ban evade or revenge kill. Removing family sharing means they have to invest money into another alt account, which a majority of rule-breakers will not do.

#

It is very prevalent on official servers, and, frankly, it's annoying.

compact matrix
#

The only issue is that it feels pay-2-win in this way for an advantage rather than just allowing that aspect of abusive gameplay to all players

neat flicker
#

Can you elaborate further of the pay to win you're talking about because there isn't anything that's paytowin about the official servers unless i'm missing where I can pay to be insta raised

compact matrix
#

I'm referring to pay-2-win alt accounts as an alternative to family share

fleet lodge
#

What are they supposed to do

compact matrix
#

it takes away that aspect for the majority of players by forcing people to pay to have access to an alternate account

#

Sounds shitty (and I don't appreciate such practices), but I feel like the system should be revised

#

a while back developers considered having multiple selectable dinosaurs for every account, if this procedure was possible but with cooldowns on spawning back in I would like that way better than the system we have now

neat flicker
#

I think me and you have different definitions of pay to win.. I see what you're talking about, but it's not pay to win

compact matrix
#

Paying to have an extra copy of the game to having more strong dinosaurs available for combat is pay to win.

neat flicker
#

That's not really pay to win.. Pay to win is defined as paying for a special item or dlc.. Them purchasing another account and then spending the time to raise it to adult is not pay to win.. If they could purchase an insta growth back to adult to go back and kill you, that would be pay to win.. I see what you're talking about but there's no way to change that unless you're just gonna bottle neck everyones mac address/IP to one account per

indigo sun
#

I think that's just people wasting their money if theyre buying the game on extra accounts

torpid wedge
#

i’d pay money for a different account with no regrets

neat flicker
#

A lot of people would, but they're not forced to do so at the current time because of family sharing

torpid wedge
#

i dont like being restricted to one dinosaur, even if i could switch servers i like sticking to one

#

i bought a couple back when it wasn’t enabled

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but i see how rulebreakers could exploit it :/

neat flicker
#

Exactly.. if most of my friends are playing on US1, and they're playing as DINO A but I'm DINO B, I don't want to have to kill my dino just to play with them, i'd rather hop on another account and grow DINO A..

#

Unfortunately you cannot have a resolution for each and everything that could be possible

torpid wedge
#

i would love being able to have multiple dinos on one account tbh

white ocean
#

at any of the developers 😼 asking for a friend but, he got banned for quite a stupid reason if someone could hear me out, hes writing a letter

mental sleet
#

wrong place to ask buddy

white ocean
#

where?

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to ask

#

not sure where to actually ask since everyone just hands out discords

mental sleet
#

you can always ask one of the official server admins, try finding one often takes care of the server your friend got banned on, if its an official server.

white ocean
#

yeah 😼 was an accidental mix packing that didnt even happen

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tbh i saw how it went down

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and found it kinda sad n funny, ty tho

#

will messege em right away

neat flicker
#

It would be best for him to reach out himself to one of the admins. However, if he was banned that means that they observed the behavior. They don't just take someones word when being reported.

white ocean
#

idk i was watching from twitches end, was kinda sketch how it happened 😃 just wanted to help

hardy kernel
#

I hope anky gets love after the rewrite.

dreamy basin
#

I think to optimize fun time in the game, being able to select your general spawn area would be nice. Not sure if it would be weird if implemented

wicked lark
#

When humans are implemented into the game, I think that a system for them to steal Dino eggs from nesting dinosaurs to add Dino’s to their group/team should be added. They would steal eggs and incubate them at their base then hatch them into their group, and raise them for their team, with the ability to invite players after the egg has been incubated.
Thoughts? Please discuss. 😃

south flower
#

I would like to to see general regions of the maps be available to choose as a spawn place, even if they are divided into large ones. It would still offer risk to players because if they choose the most popular regions on the map, they could get killed easily if they're not careful. Or at least I think it would, anyway.

sweet zephyr
#

@paper oriole That's already planned

edgy furnace
#

^

misty island
#

Why couldn’t trike fight apex carni one on one?

#

I am so confused

#

Ppl constantly asking for it but the last time I saw two Rex tried killing a trike they failed so hard

#

Trike found a nice location guarding its back and rexs literally can’t do anything

#

And eventually one Rex died and the other wounded badly and had to run

#

While the trike lived another day

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So really why are ppl asking to buff the trike

pastel charm
#

because 1 rex vs 1 trike, Rex wins, all he has to do is face tank the trike, the trike dies, rex lies down to heal as really hurt and bleeding but will survive

#

trike needs alittle buff on damage / bleed to 1 vs 1 a rex and make it a real battle not just sit and chomp

misty island
#

Did you ever went in and face tanked a trike as a Rex......?

#

It takes 9.6 bites for a Rex to kill a trike

#

It takes 12horns ish for a trike to kill a Rex

#

Yes that seems not going well for trikes

#

But

#

The trike only needs 5.6stomps to kill a Rex

#

So

#

It means if the trike lands even one stomp

#

Trike wins

#

If Rex lands a BB before getting a stomp

#

Rex wins

#

How is that not fair?

shut gale
#

Ah that's not correct. because the rex can get 3 bites during 1 stomp

misty island
#

How is that not “win sometimes”

#

No the point of attack takes one second

shut gale
#

The stomp takes 3 seconds

misty island
#

It doesn’t offer the window for Rex to take three bites in one second

#

Yes the whole animation may take 5second

#

But no one told u to stand there

#

Wait till Rex comes in

#

Start biting you

#

Then stomp

shut gale
#

ah....

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that doesn't change it x)

misty island
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I am not trying to be rude

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I am just saying

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It has its weapons

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And if trike uses it correctly

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It can win

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It’s not as if people as saying

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Oh if trike see a Rex they die

shut gale
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a good rex player wont' lose to a trike 90% of the time

misty island
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Because it’s not what happens

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And a good trike murdered two Rex

shut gale
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2 bad rexes

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yes

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i belive you

misty island
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There’s no point say that....

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Cus there’s too much human error

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On paper state

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Trike can win

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If you couldn’t

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Ur not good enough

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It just makes the character harder to play

shut gale
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you probably don't play trike đŸ€”

misty island
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I have two adult trikes

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Both on us3

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Not impossible to play

shut gale
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No not impossible . but not pleasent

misty island
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Everything is not pleasant when 7-8hrs of growing time is at stake

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It’s not a reason to buff trike as much as I like it

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It’s just not

shut gale
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It could be made better

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a better fight

misty island
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True

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It could

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Maybe a pack bonus

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Or smthing

shut gale
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F* pack bonuses

misty island
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But not merely buff attack dmg or whatever

shut gale
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there's too many packs already xD

misty island
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Not like solo trike ever make it much anyways

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When’s the last time u raised a solo trike in one go

shut gale
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last time i played trike...

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just afk grow xD

misty island
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You pro man

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Lolz

shut gale
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yeah..

misty island
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Still pro

shut gale
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You sure you're not trying to be rude ? đŸ€”

misty island
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Found tut much food next to a water sources that is not claimed

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Usually raptors or allos or apex claims all of them

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Food is fine but water......

shut gale
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Rivers đŸ€·

misty island
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Well I guess

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I never got to play when there’s lesser than 20players so...

shut gale
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That's probably no fun anyway đŸ€”

misty island
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Mmmm

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But no

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Trike doesn’t need a dmg buff that’s all I gotta say

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Maybe a speed buff under a certain restriction would be decent tho

valid flower
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Trike does need a buff

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It takes no skill for a rex to kill a trike

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That’s how easy it is to kill a fully grown trike as a rex

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And yes, rexes can still face tank trikes

lilac swallow
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The only difference between hunting a trike and a juvie as rex is that trike needs more bites to die

pastel charm
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@misty island 1 vrs 1 face tank a rex will win, tried and tested multiply times, rex gets leg break while tanking = trike cant stomp, try it

misty island
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i love how HD Neat just read the last line and decided to ping me for something i already explained my point of view in a long ass wall of text with one line of

pastel charm
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i dont read through 100 lines in 10 mins thats why

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i love how you like pressing enter before finishing your explanations 😉 have a nice day

misty island
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fyi i finished it and i deleted it =]

brisk mesa
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FYI, the distance would be roughly-Local Chat distance (aka not very far at all)

misty island
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@brisk mesa hour glass could work but that alone would take a lot of work

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cus it creates a complete new system that has to be compatible with the current one

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which will be discarded in a bit

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i dont think that would help in either short term or long term

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but how about if we use something already excist

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like

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if you are logging

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you are required to H down

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the idea of hour glass is to make the player vulnerable while logging

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to prevent logging in combat

brisk mesa
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I'm curious as to how forcing players to need to be resting to logout of the game is anymore complex than to add in a UI widget

misty island
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requiring them to H down to log could actually help

brisk mesa
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Because that's all the hourglass is.

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It's adding in a UI widget.

misty island
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cus its server UI

brisk mesa
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The framework to add it is already there.

umbral prairie
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idk if this would work but maybe this sitting in a bush in escape menu to click log out if somebody comes close could be prevented by resetting the logout timer every 70 seconds? (so you have a 10 second time frame to log before the timer resets to 60 seconds)

brisk mesa
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Nametags used to only show up when you were either in local-chat range, or broadcasted

misty island
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well they could add it using the bleeding effectt framework i guess

brisk mesa
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Not bleeding lmao.

misty island
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no

brisk mesa
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This framework is an actual simple UI one.

misty island
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but its new

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which means they need to incorporate it into the old system

brisk mesa
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Dude, it's re-using things already in the game, just with a new simple HUD element lmao

misty island
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i am just saying it would cause bug and a lot more work

brisk mesa
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The ambush ready icon wasnt a lot of work

misty island
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a hud that all player could see...

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that means you gotta edit the server codings

brisk mesa
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Yes, there have been many of those in the past.

misty island
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which should be a hard coded issue

brisk mesa
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You are drastically over-estimating the difficulty of implementing a UI widget

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The potential for bugs is incredibly low compared to your logout only when resting notion.

misty island
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enlighten me

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isnt retricting on client action way easier then altering server coding?

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idk just a guess

brisk mesa
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Just out of curiosity, how many gamebreaking bugs have you been around to see, as a player of the Isle?

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This isn't a personal attack or anything, just trying to understand if you are unaware of how much fuckery has happened when the game has made changes to hard-mechanics vs. editing the UI.

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Implementing a new UI widget is not nearly as capable of a shitfest as making an alteration to resting.

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There have been MANY occasions where a change to resting has caused players to get stuck resting.

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Or login and have issues if they are resting.

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Or if resting during a map change, having issues falling through the world

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Among other things.

misty island
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but its not resting that i suggested to change

brisk mesa
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You said to logout, you must be resting.

misty island
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its the requirement to be able to preform the action of logging

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timer only starts while resting

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so i am not really changing resting

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but changing the timer

brisk mesa
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Tampering with players ability to log out of the game has far more capacity to backfire horribly.

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Making a change to logging out, IF it goes wrong, can be far more disastrous than adding a new UI widget.

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You do not need to do some edit to the fundamental server performance in the game, the framework to add my idea already exists.

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Go onto a deathmatch server and typically you will see player icons when they get close to you.

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Ok?

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Right. You can simply scavenge that, because the distance is the exact same as the 'local chat' distance.

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Have escape menu open 15 seconds, instead of showing your steam name / avatar

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it shows an hour glass widget

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that would take maybe 15minutes to make as a widget

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30 if they really wanna make it fancy and stylish

shut gale
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@brisk mesa I like the Idea. It wouldnt fix It 100%. But It would help alot

brisk mesa
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Yeah it would help a lot.

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About as much as a soft-fix can.

misty island
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mm okay then

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thanks for the lesson

brisk mesa
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Once that widget has been visible 15 seconds, it flips over

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and that's the entire feature XD

pulsar lake
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/slay

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You slay yourself

vestal jungle
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Hourglass suggestion is solidly meh, combat logging is frustrating but idk if it needs to be “fixed” necessarily—unless you’re against something really slow, you typically don’t combat log in the open where nobody can do anything about it; it takes setup, careful hiding, and typically also track hiding/awareness to hide while you’re being chased in combat. The bug curve for that doesn’t sound fun either; I’d hate to hit a bug where permissions/range on the visibility of the icon is wrong/larger than intended/etc where people just lose Dino’s because of a bug they can’t prevent while logging out. I feel like most of the “problems” the solution would “solve” either aren’t problems (aka managing to successfully hide from/escape from a combatant) or can be solved by just increasing the safelog time

valid flower
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@stark ruin 3 call is already threaten

stark ruin
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I know

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What makes you think I don't

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That's what the whole suggestion is founded on, the original "slots" for all the calls which are still use in today, in every creature of the game, and have always been. I just described what types of sounds would be cool for each slot.

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@valid flower

vestal jungle
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Otherwise, forcing people to log sitting down would only be okay if they removed the fact that you make the sitting sound when you log back in. As of now, when you safelog sitting down, your model “sits” back down as you log in, making your resting sound. I stopped logging sitting down because of it, because several times I’ve had to log back into a precarious situation where that noise would have given me away

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(And notably, where it has given me away. Rip sub trike that logged in on rexes in a forest)

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But like I said, not completely necessary; I think most grievances could be solved by increasing the log timer, and if you want to fix afk growing, you could just disable growth while in the menu for longer than the time it takes to safelog. While I figure nobody’s particularly happy about an increase in the timer, it’s a solution that’s actually not a new feature and is just a variable chnage, unlike the timer suggestion

viral creek
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the hourglass suggestion dosen't prevent you from logging any longer than safelogging does. It just makes it, so when you're trying to combat log, your attackers will know. And they will go all in.

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Also safelogging dosen't require any skill. We were hunting a t-rex once as dilos. It took us a quite a bit to realize he was combat logging. When we realized he was, we went in. The fucker was literally tanking bites until he was able to log.

vestal jungle
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No, that’s correct. My point was more that I don’t think it’s a “bug”, I think that people being able to find a safe place to hide and escape is a feature. Not saying it’s the ultimate skillful move, but I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing. That’s something that requiring resting would actually help with; you’d go in if somebody rested

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I’d only like the hourglass if it was hidden by terrain/obstacles

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Not essentially a “beacon within a certain range”

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But that doesn’t sound like what’s being suggested

viral creek
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The main issue I have with combat logging is people afk progging, ready to open that menu whenever anything comes near

cyan flame
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Most "grievances" with "combat logging" would be solved if people just played smart :p But the hourglass could work, if you're just "waiting to logout" you're a bit more vunerable, being "visible" in a sense, but you still can just log if you feel threatened. If you're just hiding/afking, you'd still be as hidden as always, but you'd then have to risk logging and being visible if something comes around, or hope it just doesn't see you at all.

vestal jungle
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Yeah, I agree with that too. And I think that would be fixed by the earlier suggestion of making growth stop after the log timer ends

cyan flame
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And yeah, automatic logout when timer is 0 would be pretty nice to have :p You either log, or you don't.. :p

viral creek
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Or big animals literally tanking hits from smaller ones, to log. Because it took a bit for smaller animals to realize they were logging

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I hate that one the most

cyan flame
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Eh, that's a personal issue that you can easily avoid :p

vestal jungle
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Yeah, I’ve thought about that recently too. You can’t exactly make it to where damage stops your log though, because then Dryos will become the most toxic trolls on earth lol. I was thinking maybe a % of your hp is done as damage, it’d stop the log, but that’s still very relative for smaller things

viral creek
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Really?