i mean oro can atleast run to find food sources and run away from slow juvies
#general-feedback-discussion
barren zephyr
paper oriole
yea, they lack scent and both them and tacos lack nesting but that can be fixed
oro could also no doubt fit in burrows made by tacos and dryos, they'd probably be herd stragglers
barren zephyr
by the way what do you think of the abilities concpet to it
paper oriole
I think the herding is a pretty cool idea, a sort of meat shield survival (as mean as it sounds)
paper oriole
since basically anything will oneshot them, all their little survival tricks like the burrows don't seem harmful
unless they are able to be abused by dryo herds, though dryos at most would be a nuisance to any other dino too
barren zephyr
the burrows would be shorter, so while a juvie dryo might get in an adult wont
paper oriole
yea overall i think it's a fun concept, unique from the others for a little paper dino
lots of tools of escape at their disposal, but one little messup and theyre dead
civic sky
@willow zealot I’m certain that if anky were ever added into survival it’ll get bb along with other things. It’s a pretty unique dino so I’m sure it’ll be added or atleast highly considered.
That and of course since it’s a sandbox dino atm it technically doesn’t matter much, as hard as that is for me to say 🥺
versed blaze
Yup, Sandbox Dinos are low priority
Survival dinos are where the Devs focus their main efforts
hardy kernel
I really really wish anky would get some love
I think really all it needs is some bone break (i heard hit boxes were a issue?) and it would be good enough to go for play in servers
polar juniper
Sucho already is faster than giga, and Rex would still be faster than Sucho even if Sucho got a speed buff to 0.1 km/h under Diablo
unborn quail
@jolly willow Not to mention Sucho having much more stamina than both of them, and the ability to swim very effectively, ontop of already being faster than giga
jolly willow
is it really?
unborn quail
Si
unborn quail
Rex is always going to be faster, so that's irrelevant. Sucho is 30.9, Giga is 30.6
unborn quail
Water.
Sucho is semi aquatic, It's supposed to be near water as much as possible
Not to mention that's what giga is supposed to do
jolly willow
well this buff wouldnt be to make sucho outspeed giga if it already does, moreso make more of a difference between the speeds
unborn quail
It trots shit down
mystic kestrel
they camp the water
unborn quail
Log out.
feral wedge
Sucho can already outrun apexes by numerical values and utilize water better than any other animal in the game.
mystic kestrel
fact it can utilize water better
unborn quail
Sucho out swims(speed wise) every creature currently in game, and has the longest swim time of anything in game. The current issues are mechanic based, not stat. (I.e ambush transitioning to water, Biting in the water as a non semi-aquatic, etc)
leaden night
^
mystic kestrel
its all in theory
in practice u really cant survive
the moment 2 apex show up
you are screwed
toxic vortex
Is it just me or am I the only one wanting hera to be a playable Dino
versed blaze
It is in Sandbox mode
toxic vortex
I mean in survival
shut gale
@jovial moss doubt there's gonna be any changes like that during this time x)
jovial moss
Still doesn't hurt to bring it up 😃
haughty cliff
i'd just love to see pachy given a bone break chance with that head. It got brought up that then it'd scout/break legs for herb herds hunting carnivores but that shouldn't be a thing anyway 😭
shut gale
When a new bonebreak mechanic comes i would like to see it have it aswell
vocal yacht
Problem with that is like @haughty cliff said, people don't give a flying fuck about sense, give that and they will exploit it
Kinda similar to how gamma is abused but you can do nothing bout
shut gale
with a new bonebreak mechanic it could work. no RNG
shut gale
It getting reworked. we don't know how it will end
but something like this would be fine imo
Make the bonebreak mechanic same as the bleed. A stacking mechanic that when you reach a certain threshold gives a small slow % and when fully stacked the limp.
Weight having impact on how much bonebreak stacking you would apply ( like it does with bleed ) would reduce or increase the bonebreak it would apply depending on weights of both the attacker and attacked.
This would eliminate the RNG factor and make it easy to apply on medium dinos without making them “OP”
1st threshold at 30 stacks giving a 6% reduced speed
2nd at 70 stacks giving 15% reduced speed
3rd at 100 stacks and it would give the current limp
Examples:
If a Rex bite gives 60 stacks
1 Rex bite gives a Trike 60 bonebreak stacks which only gets the 1st threshold making the Trike 6% slower, the 2nd bite would give 100 stacks making it enter the limp animation
vocal yacht
What of bleed is that getting reworked?
shut gale
idk. i like how bleed works....
vocal yacht
Noice
Bleed ATM is basic, bleed things out, nothing more to it, what u explained bout bb sounds balanced, with minor tweaks
But I feel bleed needs another rework. Because it still feels like old bleed
shut gale
yeah well bleed on it self is basic...
vocal yacht
Sit and mitigate it
shut gale
they could make bleed drain stam aswell but that would be it imo..
yeah the sit down... thing could be just a damage reduction from bleed when you sit
vocal yacht
Like a bit from a giga compared to say even two dilos should be terrifying on Apex tier herbs
shut gale
like it was already... i guess dunno..
vocal yacht
People sat and mitgated bleed long ago xD idk why some think it sounds refreshing on paper what devs said. But in execution is the same old bleed from a year ago
If u bleed sit and mitigate it
It's been done for like since bleed first came out
shut gale
ah think this is a just something until the rework comes thro..
vocal yacht
Yeeeee
humble tendon
@willow zealot dude anky have to be strongest health pool but it is just low. What about that ?
You are talking about bb but dont thinking about other things. No one playing any because of low health pool.
barren zephyr
what do you mean it being low?
humble tendon
It has a damn armor. It must have more strenght
odd idol
@lost ravine #general-feedback is for making suggestions for the game. If you have questions about the game, you can ask in #401464048610312195.
floral plover
@barren zephyr Also they might have not saved those skins.
But I hope they did cause I want them.
barren zephyr
Me too
mental sleet
@valid flower ankylosaurus is not in survival, as such, making suggestions for stat changes for it atm is pointless.
clear turret
That must be why Stego's been getting a big rig update, because non-survival dinos don't EVER recieve updates or stat changes, right?
mental sleet
WHEEZE
barren zephyr
@lone hatch model 1 allo sucked
lone hatch
It was the best. Now looks ugly and weird.
barren zephyr
it looked diseased
lone hatch
Meh
gloomy onyx
They should make a hypo dryo
viral creek
@glossy rock
Although I do somewhat agree with the swimming speed part of your suggestion. Sucho wasn't intended to submerge in water like that. It was an uninteded outcome.
You're better off waiting for proper underwater mechanics
leaden trellis
@glossy rock there never was a diving mechanic in the game
torpid wedge
i think that tribals will have reins that will pierce you and hurt you anyway if you dont obey
dunno if affinity will be affected
minor basalt
@leaden trellis you could sink under the water but it wasn't necessarily diving i guess
humble tendon
Actually they should make game better. Not hypo stuff .
Btw i understood the bb thing now. I was like an idiot. They should bb+better hp
wintry cipher
@ocean vortex the animation your referencing was likely pteras launch animation before it goes airborne (flapping wings). It has a four legged ground run.
south flower
I think the tribal’s ability to control a dinosaur should be similar to inviting people to a group or nest - unless they intend for it to be something you as a dinosaur can not control and any human can just walk up to you and snap a strap on ya
wintry cipher
Tribals will be enslaving you. You get hooks thrown at you, bolas, etc, then they likely tie your mouth shut and force you to go where they want by injuring you until you cooperate
There will be some people who deliberately be someone's pet, but that's how the game this far intends it to be
umbral prairie
the launch animation would still look much less stupid if it was a quad launch,the ptera could still do a running start with the standard sprinting animation and then push itself up with the wings
wintry cipher
"Where's your time machine?" To quote the meme
umbral prairie
afaik the running start thing is why it is bipedal
ocean vortex
Where's YOUR time machine??
wintry cipher
I'm not the one arguing to change the animation and it looks fine to me.
umbral prairie
it looks very dumb imo, but that's personal taste
ocean vortex
well for a lot of us, it's been a hotspot for dislikability
because out of all pterosaur anatomy, that's the one thing it should not be able to do
imagine seeing a dog running on two legs
still temple
albatross take off anim is dumb
wintry cipher
I was thinking goose
still temple
looks actually retarded
ocean vortex
it should be common knowledge now that pteranodon is not bird-like
... at all. Not even in anatomy
wintry cipher
Okay. Problem. If it takes off instantly, it's got no danger even on the ground. If it needs cliffs to take off, it will be doomed on flat ground
Running balances it, as stupid as it may look
umbral prairie
@coarse fern why would a para be able to kill apexes?
ocean vortex
make it a quad running start then
still temple
then make it so it requires a few quad hops / jog before quad launching
ocean vortex
the solution is not a paradox
wintry cipher
Then include that in your suggestion
ocean vortex
fine
umbral prairie
things like trike, stego or anky should have the potential to kill apexes
but definitely not para
coarse fern
@umbral prairie well implement something so that they can hurt an apex or something other than just running away and getting 2 shot
coarse fern
Yeah but most carnivores can outrun a para
ocean vortex
meanwhile pteranodon isnt designed to run and I cant get it out of my head
jolly willow
Para is like
umbral prairie
yeah most carnivores can, but not apexes if they don't ambush
jolly willow
how much is its speed, 36?
coarse fern
34 isn't it?
ocean vortex
34
jolly willow
yikes
ocean vortex
it can outrun every medium carnivore except cerato
umbral prairie
and rex is supposed to be able to fuck things over if it manages to get close enough to catch them with it's short but fast ambush
ocean vortex
(no ambushing)
the only carnivores who can default-run faster than para are Dilo, Cerato, Carno and Utah
all of which are weaker in strength
umbral prairie
allo now aswell iirc
coarse fern
A rex can easily outrun a para with boost
ocean vortex
yes, Allo cannot catch it in default-run
umbral prairie
with it's speed buff it is 34.2 or sth
umbral prairie
yeah, again, rex is an ambush pred
umbral prairie
it can catch just about anything with it's ambush
but it is so short that it barely get's any distance covered
coarse fern
Yeah, but like they could implement a stun feature for the para or the pachy
ocean vortex
one day but not now
umbral prairie
5 seconds of 50 km/h ambush get the rex like 70 meters far
yeah I thought about a stun mechanic like a tail swipe, but I think it would be effective against mid tiers but not apexes
ocean vortex
horse winney kick
jolly willow
they wouldnt have needed to tone paras speed down if they dealt with the actual problem
which was its headbutt
ocean vortex
imo it should have trample damage
jolly willow
everything will have trample
ocean vortex
like
jolly willow
so i mean yeah
ocean vortex
actual dangerous trample damage
jolly willow
itll probably squash most midtiers
ocean vortex
like a cow running at you
ocean vortex
it is essentially a cretaceous cow
willow zealot
umbral prairie
I think runners like para or maia should have attacks slowing attackers down or stunning them for a short time so they can run away instead of damaging the attacker
ocean vortex
Fine I'll change the suggestion description again <_>
clarity and finickiness go together hmm
(welp im off)
edgy furnace
@naive cipher why the hell do you want old carno
jolly willow
Carno is literally the most viable best survivability dinosaur in this game why would you want to change it
jolly willow
You run from things and you run into things and bite them. Oh, and alt turn is your bestest friend
Carno was meant to be a small game hunter
naive cipher
best what can do a carno its just run away
jolly willow
Well that's his gimmick. He's fast.
You can bite things and inflict bleed onto them to disencourage them from chasing you even more
edgy furnace
carno is meant to be fast
its not a forest hunter too
its not supposed to be a forest hunter
naive cipher
but 90% of map is forest
jolly willow
's not
naive cipher
okay 80
edgy furnace
theres lots of plains
naive cipher
plains is not big enough
edgy furnace
theres plenty of plains for carnos to hunt in that people go to
naive cipher
🍆
edgy furnace
huh?
naive cipher
okay im sorry for wasting your time
south flower
But yeah carno is in a pretty good spot. It’s supposed to be fast, and you gotta act strategically to play it usually and adapt to what the map currently has.
jolly willow
literally the best dinosaur in this game survivability wise
naive cipher
but i think it s need moAr killability
lament thorn
everything needs a weakness
edgy furnace
it doesnt need a buff if it got buffed itd just be op as hell
naive cipher
what if slightly increase run turn rates but nerf speed
edgy furnace
just learn how to hunt as a carno cause it being fast is its thing
and almost no one wants it to be slower
naive cipher
carno can kill only weaker opponents while allos killing apexes
edgy furnace
carno is meant to kill smaller prey
and are the apexes you met that bad? 
naive cipher
im out
normal fern
If you don't like carnos playstyle, then don't play as carno?
barren zephyr
yup
normal fern
"I don't like this thing"
Then don't do the thing?
"I'm gonna do the thing and moan about it"
fluid tartan
I love the carno
Only thing about it that sucks is losing ambush as adult
But then your already very fast without it so 🤷♂️
brisk ivy
you guys think ptera and stego will be released before the recode thing?
edgy furnace
@brisk ivy they won’t
barren zephyr
nope
jolly willow
I propose, buff paras speed CLOSE to its speed pre-nerf, not exact
Just enough to help it out, and maybe tone down the headbutt if they do end up chasing around allos again?
spiral pond
What about making allo 34km speed from 34.2 ?
Also if you get chased by para as allo you kinda deserve it
Since you turn better and do bleed while para does real dmg while standing sill with the kick
So you can run in forest and get it stuck
brisk ivy
i believe all herbs should get a speed buff, specialy walking speed, official servers are already infested with carnis, the life is too hard for herbs, no reason to play solo at all.
spiral pond
Para gets stuck in trees rather easily
It will also help with other stuff
It would make allo ambush slower by a small bit
unborn quail
It doesn't need to be slower, Allo
Things like Maia and Utah had little to fear on terms of getting hunted
Now allo can feesibly catch both in ambush
languid ember
Personally i don’t see why allo needed to hunt them tho, but i don’t care anyway
civic sky
Kappa The only herbs who don’t need speed buffs are trike and diablo fir obvious reasons. I’d even say pachy doesn’t need one either.
unborn quail
No herbivore really needs a speed buff
languid ember
Pachy should get a speed decrease if you ask me to not assfuck dilo
unborn quail
Nothing honestly does
civic sky
True
unborn quail
Speeds are actually, Okay for once
languid ember
But make it more of a tank like it actually was said to be
civic sky
Para could use a slight one but I agree with you, most herbs are quite good
brisk ivy
@languid ember are u actually asking for pachy nerf? one bite the thing dies
civic sky
Diablo can actually escape apexes quite well if under the right circumstances not to mention it can kill sucho if it trades blows with it
Atleast that’s what I’ve noticed personally
unborn quail
@brisk ivy Kev21Today at 4:19 PM
But make it more of a tank like it actually was said to be
unborn quail
Np
brisk ivy
i was typing and went afk, didn't see when came back
civic sky
I agree, I love pachy but if it would become that my love fir it would increase ten fold
languid ember
I feel like pachy is in a lowkey weird spot, the things it was supposed to be food for can’t reliably catch it except carno, and the thing it wasn’t supposed to be hunted by easily kills it
Actually i forgot allo speed buff
Maybe he has an easier time catching it idk
brisk ivy
ambush speed is +4 km/h and has more sprinting duration
valid ridge
some people dislike my idea of preventing mass afk. what do you suggest^
valid ridge
because only 100 people, not enough ai. and mass afk are hard to find as a solo carnivor.
you either find roaming carnivor who see you and kill you, or roaming herds with trike and whatnot so you can't feed on them as a juvies.
or sub-adult
spiral pond
It Para was to be given speed buff, I would see it faster then allo by 0.5 km at max.
And the absolute maximum
But yea making allo slower by 0.2 makes him ambsuh at 42.2
Which is still really good
jovial arch
Why have it be faster at all
Why does it need to be faster
Doesn’t it go even with Allo in combat?
spiral pond
It kinda does
jovial arch
I thought it three shot Allo
spiral pond
It does with kick
spiral pond
Ambush exists
spiral pond
So if allo pack sees you you can’t fight or run
jovial arch
Uh
That’s not how ambush works my guy
If you get ambushed by a pack of Allos
You deserve to die
spiral pond
But wait
Allo ambush is fast and long enough to catch a para trying to run away from you
If you spam ambsuh you will always catch para
spiral pond
Make para faster by 0.1 or 0.2, so it can’t really effectively chase down allos
jovial arch
Ambush doesn’t make you go further on any dinosaur except Utah
116 vs 121.3
Uh
1*16
Vs 12*1.3
Spamming ambush makes you go slightly less distance
spiral pond
Ok but what do you think of making para faster by only 0.1 ?
jovial arch
Well
Sure
My opinion is that para should have more stam
That’s p much it
Also be like
.1 or .2 mph faster
inner valley
@valid ridge imagine if raptor rock was still around and that was implemented
spiral pond
So basically we want the same thing threetails
valid ridge
@inner valley I mean, its not supposed to be used like that XD
inner valley
but you know it would, lmao
valid ridge
yea 😛
inner valley
soon the rock would be covered in it and the raptors would be forced to evacuate
jovial arch
Oh sorry I’m dumb you’re right lol
spiral pond
No worries
jolly willow
Cerato isn't getting his bleed res buff until post recode ;-;
normal fern
I don't get why para should be faster than allo?
If a para herd wants to kill a lone Allo then that lone Allo is fucked, doesn't mean Allo needs to be buffed so it can run away from a para herd
unborn quail
Current speeds between them is fine, Especially with the matchup being as it is
normal fern
^
A pack of dinos being able to kill you is a not a justified reason to buff your dino
Not when a large pack of any mid sized predator would lead to the exact same result
unborn quail
^^^
viral creek
Para is in a good spot right now
normal fern
That's why shit like utah once pounce is in will be the most successful predator.
"Your pack is too small to take down that para? Go look for some more utahs and come back later" eventually you'll get to the point where it doesn't matter how good or bad the Utah's or para is, the numbers will guarantee that the paras die
viral creek
He can shitfuck multiple allos, but if there is too many, or he doesn't want to fight them, he can run
normal fern
The same logic can be applied to Allo packs, eventually there becomes too many for individual player skill to have an impact.
You don't solve that problem by throwing out random poorly-thought-out buffs or nerfs around like it's Christmas, you solve that problem with hunger changes and affinity that cause large packs to still be a freak occurrence under exceptional circumstances rather than the norm
ocean vortex
@normal fern Hunger change will affect solo players. Not a good mix.
Just affinity.
pseudo falcon
@tawny dock The reason you're finding this to be an issue is not because rex is too fast, but that rexes are too abundant. Rex can be outran by things much slower than it because of its lack of stamina. That means in order for a rex to catch you, it needs to either sneak up on you somehow (its massive so it's not easy), or you decided to get too close.
I don't think a speed reduction is the best way to solve the issue.
versed blaze
Rex's stam pool is absolute crap. Even a short chase leaves it winded.
shut gale
its honestly the best option i've found.
It doesn't need speed and BB one of them should be removed.
it could have 20+ secs of stam if needed after..
versed blaze
WIth a lack of stam, one bite and some thing runs and gets away. BB is the balance to the low stam pool. Otherwise it's grow a Rex and starve
shut gale
you don't need to slow anythign down when you're that fast...
it should be slower if it is to keep bb...
Bonebreak is there to slow down the prey and DPS it down
it makes no sense to be that fast with BB
tawny dock
I would say bb is op for it to be on rex only but there would no point as it is proven that rex irl had a crushing skull.
shut gale
and most of the people that complain about stam. are just bad at stam management
tawny dock
Yes I watched a rex outrun a cerato.
cyan flame
Lower the rex run speed to that of just a touch or two above diablo, keep the ambush speed as it is right now, and we're set.. :p
tawny dock
Idk. I like rex alot, cool creature but there needs to be some sort of nerf...
shut gale
everyone likes buffs. but when it comes to nerfs its just hate x)
tawny dock
Maybe with the new anims he will slowed down a bit.
Well its not only that. Its the fact that rex is so popular and is a favorite amongst many, its difficult to just nerf it just like that with out any back lash.
shut gale
that's kind of what i said... but yeah rex is probably the most popular x)
@lone crypt depending on how much the headbutt nerf would be and speed buff be it could be nice
but its seems fine rn so i wouldn't touch for now x)
wintry cipher
would also just make it a maia tbh
shut gale
true ish...
tawny dock
It seems there no point of balance... If you were to give utah its pounce now it would be balanced game wise. Community wise however would be different. They woudn't enjoy the fact that utah wouldn't bite as strong as now so it would just be a torn up mess.
wintry cipher
that one mostly is because its like saying para's headbutt should be nerfed because it has kick. its two different tools that cant be used at the same time
so why nerf one type of strategy? example: i guarantee you pouncing small and fast and very quick turning prey like dryos and gallis isnt reliable at all
you wont catch them that way
so you need bite
jolly willow
Para is fairly okay-ish rn
It can outstam/outrun and beats the shit out of midtiers minus I guess Sucho w/ his kicks
wintry cipher
and he can outrun sucho hands down
wintry cipher
the only dino i can see it having problems with despite being alert is carno because that sucker keeps getting dmg and bleed buffs
tawny dock
Para seems balanced except for his headbutt its hitbox range is wonky because of the way he stands.
wintry cipher
mhm. but hitboxes are also wonky in general atm
and should hopefully get fixed after the recode
it might see an uptick in viability with those fixes
tawny dock
I hope so.
jolly willow
Hitboxes NEED to be fixed during/after recode because BB will be accuracy/aim based after that
tawny dock
Yeah. Implementing anything combat wise right now would have no point due to everything just getting re-done.
wintry cipher
it would be nice if they shortened up the hitboxes so only half the tail is covered until locational dmg is in
no more "they got me by the tip of the tail"
shut gale
^
tawny dock
Agreed. Getting murdered by getting nipped on the tail has become nuisance. I will be relieved when that is fixed.
shell willow
STOP MAKING PISS/SHIT SUGGESTIONS WTF PlEase I beg this is so weird and there’s no point
shell willow
NONONO PLEASE
edgy furnace
that was a suggestion
shell willow
dont make me remember
edgy furnace
mild diarrhea for apexes
shell willow
it would add “depth”
paper oriole
imagine fighting a giga and it just starts shitting everywhere
shell willow
Are we doing this again
paper oriole
this is definitely the sort of gameplay addition we need
(being sarcastic btw)
your PFPs expression really fits the mood lol
shell willow
It does a spin attack, launching its shit in all directions dealing slowness to the target
paper oriole
omg yes
shell willow
I’m actually wheezing
Who actually thinks that’s a good idea
Who thinks that shitting and pissing is a good mechanic for the game really
paper oriole
same laughing at this has cleare dmy sinuses
edgy furnace
mild diarrhea
rain radish
Does anyone know how I can get into the Islesofnublar discord that’s the session I’m in now and I have some questions that I heard would be good through discord
edgy furnace
not a discussion about a suggestion but ok
glossy rock
@viral creek but the isle wiki saya that the sucho can go underwater, thats why i thought it was a thing b4
compact matrix
paper oriole
I think the little primitive horses would make great AI
small mammal AI in general would be neat variety, along with lizards and frogs
paper oriole
leptomeryx would be neat too, for a smaller mammal AI
there's also these guys who would be neat to see
still temple
Permian critters are neat, yes, (especially Estemmenosuchus)
But as for how well they'll fair against TI's dinosaurs? They'll probably get very fucked
paper oriole
probably.. looking at the Gorgon he could possibly be a burrower. The deer could be speedy like a dryo, but larger mammals would be a better idea for playables yeah
indricotherium maybe, it'd function similar to a sauropod like damara but without the tail whip
so i guess, function more like a shantu
decent size comparison pic here i think http://orig12.deviantart.net/d101/f/2013/149/e/f/tyrannosaurus_rex_vs_paraceratherium_by_sameerprehistorica-d5p0aqb.jpg
do i see another poop suggestion???
finite perch
did i hear playable mammals discussion? because Elasmotherium would be gneat (pictured at light grey)
something something it was actually fast i think? and also that horn... homeboy had huge neural processes with almost cusps on the end, thing probably had an enormous horn
grave bough
Hahaha what a strange looking creature
ocean vortex
Most ridiculous suggestions I heard so far:
- Terror birds
- Carno better turn radius
- Rex speed needs to be higher
- mammals
finite perch
LOL
you didnt even add my teeny tiny pteranodon suggestion.... 😔 ✊ pour one out
im waiting with baited breath...
spiral pond
You forgot about poop and diaria suggestion
finite perch
I think I repressed the memory of the diarrhea suggestion
its coming back to me oh no what have you DONE
I WANT TO FORGET
jovial moss
I mean mammals aren't such a weird suggestion considering the isle isn't replicating life from the past but rather humans turning the island into a cesspool of prehistoric animals
finite perch
apparently a lot of pteras were teeny-tiny cat-sized bois? https://www.deviantart.com/rainbowleo/art/Cat-sized-or-smaller-pterodactyloidea-703019974
also Terror Birds would be so cool, they're underrated in general for paleo media
spiral pond
Meh
ocean vortex
@jovial moss all from the mesozoic though
BUT with the one rare exception of Titanoboa
Which lived close enough to the cretaceous
jovial moss
lore-wise, it'd be uncharacteristic for a human scientist to NOT want to bring back everything they could get their grubby hands on, not just dinosaurs 😛
I'm a big fan of permian critters personally
ocean vortex
Second point, this game is based off Jurassic Park
Not Nigel Martin's adventures
@finite perch =_=
finite perch
looks like SOMEONE doesnt want to see amebelodontidae in the isle.... i see how it is
jovial moss
LMAO
ocean vortex
Look ok I dont want to sound rude, but putting elephants next to pteranodons is just silly
Thematically spoilsome
Also I know what platybelodon is
jovial moss
I mean, putting humans next to t rex is equally as silly :V
finite perch
you're right, we need more things like Josephoartigasia
jovial moss
the biggest, goodest boy
ocean vortex
Humans next to t rex isnt silly...
The fact that humans are surrounded by ancient carnivores tattered by genetics gives this game a horror vibe
finite perch
To an extent, it sort of is. In the way that some people think animals talking in movies is silly, or star-wars/star-trek being set in space is silly. Sometimes people cant suspend their disbelief due to their own bias
finite perch
Both of us are, Ive tried to tell some folks that the Isle is very immersive and fun! but it gets shot down at concept. We agree and disagree, im not here to scuffle
jovial moss
idk mate I'd be just as afraid of a giant territorial prehistoric rhino crushing me into paste just as much as a giant not-lizard eating me
I'm just discussing the suggestion, since I find it fun 😃
ocean vortex
idk I'd just be as afraid as a train crashing fowards into me
So lets add trains to the isle
Fear factor
finite perch
i can agree with hungling, i find enormous misshapen mammals which are familiar enough for me to find grotesque to be more horrifying than scaley things i don't really have an irl concept of.
ocean vortex
And cars
ocean vortex
And nuclear bombs
finite perch
thats how you get deathclaws!
jovial moss
as a t rex I would 1v1 the devil
finite perch
i mean... neuro and lore terminology but
ocean vortex
So add them to the Isle right
Right???
No
TI is a horror game but its not putting every aspect of horror into one
golden hamlet
Well the alien shuttle and the devil haven't been proven to exist at any point IRL while all off the animals that have been discussed have.
ocean vortex
Look im just saying, The Isle is a horror game but that does not mean its going to add every element of animal type fear in it
spiral pond
Let’s add fricking churches where Utah’s will preach to the rexes cause it’s modern day
finite perch
well... reptilian fear isn't genetic like the fear of spiders/bugs is, its Christian, but im gonna go ahead and not touch the topic
The isle is a horror game, I know. Im not arguing it isnt
spiral pond
But I don’t really see the point of adding something like wooly rhino when a Rex would just probably facetank it
finite perch
im just saying that when i shit my pants after a good ambush, i do not shit solely out of the fact that it is a scaly dinosaur
spiral pond
Basically a faster trike with 1 horn
finite perch
nah, i wouldnt argue for its addition at all. i just think it'd make neat DLC, a single mammal wouldnt stand very well in the veritable sea of dinos
since feathered dinos are being added, i think the logic that scales = scary is a bit weak
ocean vortex
Look you can have mammals as a mod
jovial moss
alternatively they could make different time period playstyles, but that's a lot more work 😛 I wouldnt mind a post cretaceous game that'd be dope
finite perch
Pleistocene mod when... easily the scariest period for me. Sometimes its just a regular cheetah, or black bear. Sometimes its a 1,000 pound giant sloth. you're not gonna know until you find one, talk about suspense
ocean vortex
Eh, you know that sloth was herbivorous
finite perch
i think yer just herbophobic my good lad
jovial moss
LOL
finite perch
an elk is still a big animal with horns, just because it wont eat me doesnt mean it wont fuck my entire body apart with its enormous claws??????
LOL ELK CLAWS i forgot what i was talking about
ocean vortex
Since when tf did elk have claws
finite perch
LOL sorry omfg
spiral pond
Deer with claws
ocean vortex
Are you sure I can trust you now
jovial moss
Elk claws is great
finite perch
elk.... sloths... its the same animal if you go back far enough
jovial moss
spiral pond
Para kicks with its claws
finite perch
thats him officer. the elk i saw in the woods that instilled me with a carnal fear of deer
ocean vortex
The difference between herbs and carnis is large
One will sometimes kill you if youre close
jovial moss
one eats you, the other doesn't
finite perch
yes, such as the length and position of their cecum
spiral pond
||Like how carnivores get special treatment for some reason in this game||
jovial moss
Not all carnivores woudl actively seek you out though, if they're big enough and you're small enough you're pretty much worth nothing
but thats irl
in game we use our human brains to be hyper aggressive so
finite perch
you wanna know whats scary? biting off more than you can chew in the isle. i joined a server where herbivores are insanely aggressive, and the game is SO GOOD when herbivores are allowed to be aggressive
a pack of 60 utahs got hurt so very badly by a pack of like 6 maias
jovial moss
good
spiral pond
60 Utah’s 
finite perch
or when you're like, 'yeah i can hunt that' and then you're running from a pachy with your tail between your legs
ocean vortex
Stupid utahs :/
finite perch
69 to be precise, but IGP is a good server and you should play it
ocean vortex
60? For real?
finite perch
yeah! theres vids of it. i was in it
jovial moss
idk how anyone would survive from the lag of 66 players in one spot
ocean vortex
10 each would take down one maia
finite perch
not when they are instilled with a fear for herbivores they don't, half the pack didnt even go because they thought it was a fool's errand
when the maia doesnt run, and instead chases you back? thats the difference
shits incredibly terrifying
ocean vortex
There is one important point to this scenario though
The utahs found the maias
Look, I know this game has a bit of a carnivore bias
But herbivore bias exists within some players
And bias against bias is not a good mix
spiral pond
I’m not really bias towards any faction
jovial moss
idk about anyone else but I only have herbivore bias because they're getting shafted so hard compared to carnivores
spiral pond
Since I play 50/50
finite perch
in a horror game, everyone should be afraid.
ocean vortex
I play herbivore more often you know
jovial moss
I mean rex and giga keep getting rebalanced and made better, and trike still hasn't gotten a single change other than messing around with it's hitbox?
ocean vortex
Trike hitbox was fixed last week
shut gale
Trike gore got slightly buffed in damage and attack speed
jovial moss
It wasn't fixed, it was reverted
finite perch
^ :/ as well, its the only herbivore that can actually go to pitch with a rex/giga, when carnivores have... well, rex/giga
shut gale
its much better
finite perch
this will be fixed with stego/anky and all but its rough lad
finite perch
no kidding, now lets count to 2
ocean vortex
Para, maia, pachy - they are not
jovial moss
Herbivores have 1 apex, which isn't very good considering its speed and lack of stam regen, and nothing on the herbivore side has bone break
spiral pond
But it sucks that carnivores are getting so much love while herbs get balance that is ruined in few patches later when carnivores get buffs
spiral pond
And stego probably
ocean vortex
Ok, three
jovial moss
Cama gets melted by giga :U
ocean vortex
Cama gets melted by giga????
spiral pond
Bleed
finite perch
^ Puerto is very very much up in the air, Cama isnt even balanced yet
shut gale
i wouldn't waste any time talking about somethign that ins't in survival yet..
jovial moss
I don't see many solo apex carnis anymore, so thats not an issue
golden hamlet
Off topic but could you link the video with the Utah's vs the Maia's Fraidy? I'd love to see that ;v;
jovial moss
me too LOL
finite perch
for sure! idk if anybody recorded the maia fight, but they eventually went up against a cama or pue iirc?
ocean vortex
Thats just suicidal ._.
I think the weight class distribution between dino tiers is what defines their combat matchup
So no I dont believe that things like Para should be able to kill a rex
But can smash a carnotaurus' head
All is weight and growth relative
Im fine with Trike being able to kill a rex
finite perch
Para is an actual walking steak... even on the hyper-aggressive herbie servers people STILL dont play para
spiral pond
Still think para needs 0.1 km buff to speed buf whatever
jovial moss
tbh I like shant more than para I'm sad it's not in survival
spiral pond
Shan’t is broken
finite perch
I took down a para as a solo carnotaurus, I also took one down with a 6 pack of utahs. its so loud, and its call is so long, you can locate + kill it from a misclick
i think its placement is reasonable, but it does seem silly @ how big it is + how useless it can be sometimes lol
ocean vortex
Worst mistake you can do in TI
spiral pond
How did you kill it with carno lol
jovial moss
well its unbalanced since its not in survival, but I like it better
ocean vortex
Call constantly
spiral pond
Para 1-2 shots para
ocean vortex
That para is dumb
finite perch
i dont play on alt-turn servers is how
spiral pond
Yea
ocean vortex
Should easily cripple a carno
spiral pond
?
shut gale
@jovial moss Shant is actually broken broken. its bugged currently
ocean vortex
No alt turn? Then carno is worse
spiral pond
Para turns kinda good in trot
jovial moss
oh dang
ocean vortex
Should be even easier
jovial moss
🤔
spiral pond
It’s about 1.5 kick to kill carno as para
ocean vortex
Para is okay at the moment
finite perch
🤷 maybe it was an odd occurrence? homeboy couldn't aim?
ocean vortex
The fact that para can be hunted and killed does not mean it should be buffed
spiral pond
When did you fight it ?
finite perch
no i agree it matters, i wont argue that it doesn't! it was awhile ago, was either right after the para nerf or right before
it was long enough ago at least that my recollection is fuzzy, but what i do remember is standing on the para like..... hold on what the fuck
spiral pond
If it was right after then yea it possible for you to kill para
It was so fucking weak
ocean vortex
Para is different now
jovial moss
maia is the more fun hadrosaur
ocean vortex
Also it has just enough speed to distance out an apex if you see it coming
Something the devs intended
Para is an ok herbivore at the moment and not much needs to be heavily tweaked
Galli, Trike, Maia and Dryo are in excellent spots
Pachy is a bit under the okay level but somewhat manageable
jovial moss
Pachy definitely needs attention 😛 definitely not biased or anything
ocean vortex
For Carnis, Carno and Utah are in amazing spots, apexs and mid-tiers are ok, and Dilo is sh*t
'Cause V3 can still be gamma cheated
Dilo's blanket of nighttime safety is not safe at all
Cheaters at night be like 'oh hey a dilo'
Also it cannot outrun nor out-turn a cerato which I find a bit ridiculous
Only play Dilo of you want to experience the thrill at being at a clutch
Because atm, despite the dilo buffs
jovial moss
it can't out run a cerato? how fast are those things dam
ocean vortex
Its still in a clutch
spiral pond
Huh weird
jovial moss
rip diloo
ocean vortex
If the cerato ambushes you he has a huge advantage
Even from a considerable distance
Since he can exhaust you and then trot you down
ocean vortex
Nope
spiral pond
Cera bleed red sucks
ocean vortex
Cera can 3 bite it
finite perch
i think we're getting off topic.... i think the isle could benefit from featuring the giant toothed platypus directly on the box art
(anyways good night LOL)
jovial moss
LOL
ocean vortex
If it hits you once, game over
spiral pond
Why
spiral pond
Not really cera does no bleed
And cera can’t chase after you
Cause it’s bleeding to death
If you ambush it and bite it 2 times it’s probably dead
ocean vortex
Clutch
shut gale
The match is in ceratos favor, but if you get caught by one as a dilo you... suck x)
ocean vortex
Sigh
Ik people say herbivores are ignored by the devs
But deep inside
We all know it's dilo
I got caught by a cera pack once
shut gale
dilo would be fine if it wasn't the night time and pachys and maias being faster than it
spiral pond
Tbh idk how to make maia slower with out it being allo food
ocean vortex
Also V3 night isnt gamma-fixed yet
spiral pond
But yea Pachy should run as fast as dilo
ocean vortex
Maia is Carno prey
ocean vortex
But yeh I agree
shut gale
and i think the pachy should be slower than a dilo x)
ocean vortex
Needs to be toned down
spiral pond
Make maia the same speed as Utah
ocean vortex
I'd say 39kmph run speed
spiral pond
But why
ocean vortex
Fun fact: at the moment it IS the same speed as a utah
ocean vortex
Oh god
Raptor: it took me millions of years to evolve this swift, elegant carnivore body for maximum speed
Maia: im a cow lol
spiral pond
Not really
ocean vortex
Not anatomy
spiral pond
Galli is too light for being horse niche
ocean vortex
1kg seems legit
Yeah I think Maia needs to be slowed down
At the same time I think Carno needs a hunger nerf
And Pachy needs a bit more hp
But thats all I see as problematic atm
So ima close this off with an important message
Herbivore bias?
Nah gimme dat Dilo bias
jovial moss
I do agree dilo needs something to make it not bad
but Pachy needs more than just an hp buff, it would still get bled to death by everything and anything
pale prairie
@glossy copper well for starters that isn't a suggestion.
but juvi allo is faster than juvi giga.
wispy abyss
Dilos have a huge advantage already, with their night vision, they have to have some weakness like any other dino, in their case its low Health and a disadvantage in speed vs. pachy/maia. But keep in mind that server population of Dilos compared to Maia and especially Pachy is usually much higher, furthermore they are mostly in packs, some even in swarms. Imo -and i like playing Dilo- it is fair the way it currently is. If you raise their speed so they can outrun pachy and Maia, you would take away a lot of motivation for those rather rare players which play herbivores and also want to fight from time to time, instead of only running from bush to bush. You need to keep your eyes open for Maias as a Dilo and either hide or defend yourself with your pack friends.
Besides that, lets hope the whole fighting system becomes an overhaul, where it does matter which parts of the body you hit, with body collision, and a more reasonable alt-turn system/animation.
coarse thicket
The problem is, night vision is their only real advantages and that’s already being taken away by brighter nights and gamma changers. The nights have become bright enough that I don’t even need night vision in some areas. Also, night lasts only for a specific amount of time in which dilo is rendered much worse than before. It should be able to have some strength in the day as well.
wispy abyss
about the night vision - yes, its sad people use gamma, i really never do that, i have no solution for that, since i dont want it to be pitch black all the time, that is not realistic and s... when you play other dinos. They could increase the pitch black night from 0100-0500 instead of 0200-0400 as it is now the case if i am not wrong. Their strength is numbers/teamwork, agility and high bleed, and their ambush running time isnt bad as well, it lasts quite long. However, whenever you make the proposal to buff them, it affects all other dinos (especially Utahs, Maia, Pachy and Carno) as well, so it must be a smart solution which all could deal with in the end.
spiral pond
except its ambush mult is terrible
its 1.1 for gods sak
while utah and allo have 1.3
wispy abyss
ok, that should be equal, ur right
spiral pond
maybe ambush mult for dilo and cera should be 1.2
since they are both endurance hunters
umbral prairie
stop suggesting this stuff, there will be dino only servers for people that don't want humans
edgy furnace
@brazen wolf no just no baby humans
Human weapons that can kill bigger Dino’s will be hard to find which will make it balanced
Hypos will also be hard to get and will kill a ton of stuff then starve after that hypos don’t survive long cause they starve
umbral prairie
plus making humans 8 hours is completely stupid
brazen wolf
baby humans are good idea
torpid wedge
hell no
brazen wolf
you grow your baby dino
dreamy wharf
How about there’s no growth for humans at all.
brazen wolf
why not baby humans
torpid wedge
at youngest, teen
dreamy wharf
Done.
umbral prairie
@brazen wolf weapons capable of killing big things like apexes will be extremely hard to get and very limiting in terms of mobility, plus even with heavy weapons you will have to hit the brain for a 1 shot (if one shots will be possible) , and you make a loud sound that might lure other preds in
brazen wolf
haha it's hell for baby dinos
umbral prairie
baby humans are stupid
torpid wedge
hell for baby dinos? LUL
tawny dock
@brazen wolf Yeah have fun running around as a toddler.
edgy furnace
😂
umbral prairie
yeah eat insects best idea
edgy furnace
Baby humans don’t work for this game
brazen wolf
if you want to play apex humans then you have to pay the price for it
torpid wedge
umbral prairie
and crawl into dryo burrows
torpid wedge
apex humans?
brazen wolf
i think 8 hour is good
torpid wedge
tawny dock
torpid wedge
you’re trolling
brazen wolf
humans will be the apex
torpid wedge
you have to be
edgy furnace
They’re not apexes
umbral prairie
and make a mechanic that makes the baby scream whenever it's stats are low so it is realistic
edgy furnace
The weapons will be hard to find
umbral prairie
totally a good idea
brazen wolf
lol
edgy furnace
They will die so fast by everything that’s small
umbral prairie
humans will definitely not be 'the apex'
brazen wolf
it will be fun to play baby humans
torpid wedge
????????
edgy furnace
No
edgy furnace
This isn’t the kind of game for this
tawny dock
Everything will smash humans.
brazen wolf
it should be far for all
tawny dock
They won't be affected by weight class.
brazen wolf
dinos and humans
umbral prairie
baby humans will be taco gameplay except you are even slower, can't attack, can't burrow and you are loud
brazen wolf
you grow your dino so you should grow you humans
edgy furnace
The way humans will be balanced is making the weapons hard to find
umbral prairie
totally fun gameplay
edgy furnace
No that’s not how to balance humans
tawny dock
Low health baby human: WAAAHHH
edgy furnace
They’re making the good weapons hard to find
torpid wedge
lowhunger baby human WAAAAAHHHH
edgy furnace
That’s how it’s going to be balanced
brazen wolf
yes it is a perfect way that i could think of to balance the game
barren zephyr
Lmao
torpid wedge
existing baby human WAAAAAH
brazen wolf
you cant spwan as a fully grown humnas
edgy furnace
Are you trolling lol
brazen wolf
you need to grow
torpid wedge
he has to be
edgy furnace
Yeah he’s trolling there’s no way
torpid wedge
i cant take it seriously
brazen wolf
noo am serious
regal pecan
oh boy
umbral prairie
they are like this with every suggestion of them that gets criticised
torpid wedge
regal pecan
brazen wolf
i dont want to loose my 6 hour rex toyou huans
umbral prairie
so I'm not sure
brazen wolf
just like the dinos
torpid wedge
you just want babies to mirror your irl self
torpid wedge
this is getting ridiculous
torpid wedge
how
regal pecan
the more i know ppl the more i love animals
edgy furnace
How
brazen wolf
just hide in bushes
torpid wedge
thats SO MUCH FUN!!!!!!
edgy furnace
That’s not fun but ok
torpid wedge
why didnt i think of that???
brazen wolf
hide in bush for 8 hours
edgy furnace
Gosh don’t you guys love afking 8 hours? So much fun!
umbral prairie
humans will be easy af to kill, they're slower than most preds, and the heavier their weapons will get the slower they will be, and with every shot they fire they will attract more predators
brazen wolf
then you could carry wepon of mass distruction
torpid wedge
that you’re scared of losing?
torpid wedge
he has to be
brazen wolf
am serious bro
umbral prairie
again, they're like this whenever one of their suggestions get critisized (idk how to spell it sry)
so I'm really not sure if it is a troll
tawny dock
Who are the people who put thumbs up?
torpid wedge
i dOn’T wAnT tO LoSe My SiX hOuR rEx so babies should afk for 8 hours like i do to grow the rex i’m scared to lose
edgy furnace
This suggestion is worse than the diarrhea suggestion
regal pecan
uncleraptor, before you buy a game read its description or you ll get disappointed in the future.
brazen wolf
you cannot spawn as a fully grown humans it's not fair for the dinos
tawny dock
Utter retards
umbral prairie
or just somebody that can argue like a flat earther, ignoring other arguments and repeating themselves
tawny dock
Yeah just take away half the things planned for the isle.
torpid wedge
😂😂😂
barren zephyr
@brazen wolf youre a 
torpid wedge
tawny dock
barren zephyr
those thoughts were so far off i could see Jupiter
umbral prairie
we're trying to explain why the thoughts are not thought through and why they would be annoying af and unbalanced
south flower
You DO know that human infants are not capable of taking care of themselves, let alone surviving on an ISLAND FULL OF DINOSAURS. They can’t walk, they can’t eat by themselves because they have a certain diet as infants. Dinosaurs are BORN with the instincts and capabilities to take care of themselves.
Baby humans will only be a snack to any dino that wanders by.
tawny dock
Isle devs: * looks at suggestion *
brazen wolf
well if you guys like humans blow your dino bran away then what can i do
tawny dock
Isle devs: "Prepare to be ignored!"
jaunty dawn
Baby human 10/10 gameplay.
umbral prairie
I hope the devs think it is a troll so they don't lose faith in this community
torpid wedge
its balanced because weapons are rare and powerful ones are hard to lug around
torpid wedge
theres NO reason for someone to kill a rex for the hell of it
not like you can mount its head on a wall
umbral prairie
at a rex moving at 30 km/h
tawny dock
Yeah you're not gonna spawn in with a minigun or something
torpid wedge
^
umbral prairie
plus you're still a oneshot to almost everything
brazen wolf
humans will be running around in groups
umbral prairie
and the heavier your weapon is the more vulnerable you get to smaller, faster preds
brazen wolf
with their guns riding rex
tawny dock
Humans are planned to have only 100 hp
south flower
DINOSAURS run around in groups
torpid wedge
LMAO
jaunty dawn
As others have said, I'm sure weapons will be balanced so they can't absolutely destroy dinosaurs.
torpid wedge
only tribals will
tawny dock
Rex does more than a thousand.
torpid wedge
and tribals shouldnt have guns
brazen wolf
no they will be on hypos
torpid wedge
i hope at least oof
umbral prairie
mercs won't even tame dinos
brazen wolf
they will ride hypos with a machine gun
edgy furnace
Tribals will be taming the dinosaurs and the dinosaurs can turn on them at any point
tawny dock
OOF
edgy furnace
Omg yeah this guy is a troll
south flower
Dude
Hypos are so uncommon, and with their massive health, humans wont stand a chance unless they probably nuke the island.
torpid wedge
just leave it, lost cause 💀
edgy furnace
Ok just so you know look into the feature before you make crap suggestions
south flower
^
regal pecan
this dude is awesome
tawny dock
IsLe ArK 2 In dIsGuIsE CoNfIrMeD?
edgy furnace
umbral prairie
I can never tell if someone is a troll because flat earthers exist, I thought they were trolls aswell but the more flat earthers I talked to the more confused I got
brazen wolf
you see ark
edgy furnace
The game won’t turn into ark
brazen wolf
ppl riding dino with guns
inner valley
just watching this conversation, couldn't you guys tell he was a troll when he said "hide in bush for 8 hours"
edgy furnace
Dude you know mercs can’t tame dinos right?
south flower
Can you imagine though - Dryos and other small creatures can get annoying if they spam call - can you imagine babies in the game spam calling?
tawny dock
Baby spam: WAAAAHHH
umbral prairie
yeah, they would be killed by everything instead of running away into burrows though
edgy furnace
south flower
Triggering lmao
tawny dock
Over and over.
inner valley
Oh god, imagine what the baby broadcast, threaten, help, and friendly calls would be
edgy furnace
Tribals will be taming the Dino’s and they won’t have guns AND the Dino’s can turn on them when they want
tawny dock
Watch his next suggestion
south flower
Wouldn’t it all sound the same though?
inner valley
All just a really loud screeching noise
south flower
Except the friendly
tawny dock
"Baby humans can crawl up trees"
south flower
Ooof
tawny dock
Hypos are now velo sized
south flower
Lmao a baby carrying an AK around
edgy furnace
inner valley
i just imagine a baby crawling up a tree like it's walking normally with no different animation
umbral prairie
baby humans will be able to dig burrows
tawny dock
And do 0.000001 damage
brazen wolf
baby can hide in bush
inner valley
and so can you
umbral prairie
and kill a dino with a pooping mechanic
brazen wolf
they can keep quet and eat berries
edgy furnace
No
inner valley
to grow that rex back that you will supposedly lose
brazen wolf
so i could take some revenge on the babies by eating them
tawny dock
Baby: * kills dino with shit*
brazen wolf
it would tast good
umbral prairie
they can't eat anything without dying from it, they would have to hope for a bush that grows milk bottles
south flower
^
edgy furnace
Anyways my plane is landing I have to go
inner valley
amazing new idea: human nesting
south flower
Oof
umbral prairie
mom threw the baby out of a plane with a parachute on accident
south flower
An island where military bases are located - WHO’S GONNA LEAVE A KID ON AN ISLAND FULL OF DINOSAURS
inner valley
also ngl this conversation is absolutely hilarious
loud oasis
It's going to be a horror game as well and the horror part will be coming from playing as the humans. So I'm looking forward to that
south flower
Do you REALIZE how stupid this sounds??? 😂
umbral prairie
the mom wanted to kill the baby but she gave it a parachute by accident, so it survived
inner valley
i'm sure they do
south flower
And somehow the baby learns to use a weapon when it turns into an adult
inner valley
or did the mom give the baby the parachute on purpose, so it could die to the dinos instead? 🤔
inner valley
pff
loud oasis
I'm ready to be scared af especially when you're with a group of your friends at night and then boom, one goes down to a raptor in the grass, uh oh, Mason goes down by another to your left. 😰
south flower
Just no