#general-feedback-discussion | The Isle Official Discord | Page 445

jovial moss Mar 21, 2019, 9:03 AM

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bone break would fix a lot of issues it has with mid tiers but, only rex has bone break so

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:03 AM

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ah BB is bad...

jovial moss Mar 21, 2019, 9:03 AM

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it is, but one side shouldn't have access to it

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It's lopsided

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:03 AM

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I don't get why Rex has BB and nothing else does.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:03 AM

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i agree that only the rex should have it until it gets reworked

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:03 AM

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It's so stupid IMO.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:04 AM

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well the point was

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:04 AM

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Pachy bb to small dinos is ok but i dont see fair pachy bb a allo who is more than twice it size

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:04 AM

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the rex is the "slowest he gets BB to slow everything that comes at it down"

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but then they buffed him so...

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🤷

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:04 AM

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Yeah ik why they removed bb, but until u fix the BB the way how u want it to work remove it from every dino.

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Funsu then again

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Rex can bite and hit u from behind.

jovial moss Mar 21, 2019, 9:05 AM

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either everyone gets it or no one should. removing it from trike crippled the crap out of it initially and now they have to work around an attack that doesn't do what it was made to do

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:05 AM

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well i think it should keep it IF it was slower...

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well

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trike besides it hit box thing going on rn

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could have much better gameplay aswell...

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:05 AM

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Isn't Rex almost faster than Para which is pretty stupid?

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:05 AM

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should even be able to fight 1 rex off

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yeah.. close

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:06 AM

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I don't get why they nerfed Para A LOT

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While their buffing fucking diablo lol.

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Diablo is stronger than Trike.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:06 AM

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diablo was garbage for more than 6 months..

jovial moss Mar 21, 2019, 9:06 AM

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rex is as fast as a utah when ambushing

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:06 AM

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.so i understand..

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:06 AM

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Yah.

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I understand.

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And I think Diablo, Galli, Dryo, Maia are in a good state rn.

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However Pachy, Para, Trike aren't.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Para needs the hit box change

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or fix*

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and it should be fine

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Instead of buffing the balanced ones, buff the unbalanced ones.

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Para needs a speed buff hello it's a hadro.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:07 AM

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well i understand that

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but if you make it fast and able to fend allos off

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:07 AM

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@shut gale ir trike is slower and have the same stam than a rex It should be at least a 50% fight, i mean trike is slower the Rex is the only who starts the fight if he isnt prepared to risk his grow dobt start the fight is not like trike can engage

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:07 AM

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they run every allo down...

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and muder them without any chances...

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so thats why its either a pure runner. a pure fighter.. or like it is rn

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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All they need to do fix Trike's hitbox, buff the stomp.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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RN is the best option imo..

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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And Trike is good to go.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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yeah i agree

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the stomp should be the thing to be played around

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Might as well do that if ur gonna make it stab Rex 19 times and Rex wont die.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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@lilac swallow ik but we also have to take into account that trikes get in groups faster than rexes

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Trike needs to kot be a Happy meal for rexes

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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or atleast its "how its supose to be "

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Well if the trike hit an apex for 1/4 of their Hp with a stomp

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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@shut gale supposed but not true, is imposible to have groups if there are no trikes

jovial moss Mar 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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I think both of trikes attacks should get buffed, since atm its easy pickings for rexes and gigas, it should be hard to pick off a trike its why they're an apex

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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the fights would be based around stomps

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@lilac swallow true x)

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sucks...

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Lol no Funsu.

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Rex can just bite all the Trikes.

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Their all broken.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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ik dark

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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And go in and keep biting.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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but ofc thats somethign thats gonna be fixed..

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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Rex can get 2 bites in.

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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I mean trike is not the only thing a rex can eat, the rex can find another prey

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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And have u guys noticed the Giga's tail and Rex's tail are immune to attacks?

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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yeah a bit

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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Which is ANOTHER stupid thing.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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oh not sure if you know this but the trike if it gets its hitbox fixed

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is pretty damn strong after...

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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True,

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But still needs that stomp buff.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:11 AM

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i think it got a Attack speed buff or smthg on the right click

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Make it the same as Rex's speed

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Same Rex's stam

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:11 AM

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its the strongest i've seen since they removed the BB from it

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Both attacks Funsu.

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Which is what broke the hitbox.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:11 AM

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well the stomp is meh

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you can right click 3 times

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while you do 1 stomp

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the 3 times is more DPs...

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 AM

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The stomp is only worth if it one shot if it not one shot just gore

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 AM

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unless they run bite and run off ofc..

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 AM

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Isn't this painful

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📎 20190321131202_1.jpg

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 AM

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what? x)

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 AM

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Look at the dmg

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And speed

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 AM

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remember weight makes the trike damage much higher..

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 AM

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Diablo being easier at fighting allos than trike is a new level of depresing

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 AM

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Basically Dibble has the Trike's role rn.

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Funsu Ik.

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But still.

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Dibble has better turn better speed better everything.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:13 AM

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well i don't think the gore should get a buff....

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it makes it so fights are "spam click to win"

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:13 AM

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It should

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:13 AM

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i would actually like to see it nerfed a tiny bit

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and then a big buff on the stomp

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like a big ass buff <.<

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:13 AM

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Look

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Nerf Trike's weight to 5.8

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:13 AM

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i know the stats dark x)

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Give it a 1k dmg buff

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:14 AM

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big nerd in this .... 😛

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actually thought 1.1k damage

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Oh

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:14 AM

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2 stomps = 50% rex hp

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:14 AM

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1.1k ya

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:14 AM

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so apexes would have to play around the stomp

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and dodge them... or bait them

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until you were out of stam to use them

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and then go in for the kill

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but if they fuked up... Rip them...

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:15 AM

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I just love how they nerfed Trike even more.

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When it needed a buff.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:15 AM

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ah... the weight nerf would kill it dark x)

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:15 AM

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Also when Trike first came out, Dibble was stronger than Trike.

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Lmao.

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No it wouldn't Funsu.

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It would actually do more dmg.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:15 AM

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from 8300 to 5800?

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:16 AM

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Yes

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:16 AM

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it would not x)

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:16 AM

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Which HP buff

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Lemme edit that

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:16 AM

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thats almost -3k hp...

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:16 AM

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"Trike is an herbi It shouldnt be able to defend It self" thats what happens in people mind

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:16 AM

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7k HP with 5.8 Weight and 1.1k dmg is pretty strong IMO

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Yep Dragon.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:16 AM

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everyone pulls for their side dragon 😛

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dark if you nerf the weight

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:17 AM

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I even saw a guy saying a rex vs cámara should be 50%-50%

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:17 AM

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the rex will do more damage to you

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:17 AM

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But u have more HP

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:17 AM

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by like 300 per bite

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:17 AM

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And u almost do the same dmg.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:17 AM

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doesn't matter

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weight is a damage resistance

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in it self..

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:17 AM

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6.4 Weight works then?

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:17 AM

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weight should stay as it is...

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if you nerf it ... you would need to buff alot of things

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Well rn trike is weak and the devs would not wanna give it a dmg bfuf

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Right now is easier for a rex to eat trikes than for a trike to eat bushes, is just stupid

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Buff*

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When it needs one.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Weight is both a damage multiplier and a damage resistence multiplier

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Ik.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:18 AM

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i'm sure they will do something about it

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i think they might just not change much before the recode thing

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:19 AM

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Watch the next update be another Trike nerf.

tepid light Mar 21, 2019, 9:19 AM

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you say trike is too weak but suggest a weight nerf, you're making it worst

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:19 AM

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No.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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yeah ...

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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But it's 300 Dmg rn.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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it does dark... :\

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Ik it does, but if u buff it rn with it's current weight

tepid light Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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lower weight means rex will damage it even more

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Watch ppl complain how strong it is

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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well it will be op

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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And that "Herbs are suppose to die"

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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if you just buff it...

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Well

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I did put a suggestion of buffing the stomp

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Before this recent update.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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this is what i came up with to fix the trike:

Stomp damage: increase from 800 N to 1100 N

Stomp recover speed: 1 second faster to recover from the stomp animation
Stomp stamina drain: reworked into it only being able to stomp 3-4 times
Headbutt: damage decrease from 360 to 320 N

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Nothing happened to Trike.

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Let them complain a trike cant huntn you down if a trike kills you is because you started a fight you couldnt win

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Headbutt is what needs to be buffed Funsu the stomp too.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:21 AM

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if you buff them both

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no Rex as a chance...

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at all..

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it needs to be balanced for both sides..

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the stomp gives a middle ground

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Trike misses= gets punished
Trikes hits= gets some fat damage in the rex

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instead of the current spam click the apexes fights are rn x)

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Read #general-feedback

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How about that.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:24 AM

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still doesn't change it

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:25 AM

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Does make a lot of diff.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:25 AM

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gore does alot and hits way to fast.. it out DPS the stomp..

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well yeah

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makes the trike op xD

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:25 AM

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How about 420 then?

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That's much better

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:25 AM

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again i think the gore should get nerfed and stomp buffed....

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to promote stomping

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:26 AM

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I disagree with that.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:26 AM

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thats fine x)

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Stomping will go up to 1k and gore to 420

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Will promote Stomping a lot

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:26 AM

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ok now think about this...

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Or 390 Gore attack

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Okay ya nvm

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Nvm

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:26 AM

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how many gores do you get in during 1 stomp animation?

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:26 AM

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NVM XD

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:26 AM

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x)

lilac swallow Mar 21, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Dryo vs utah: dryo is slower and weaker, but grows twice as fast and have still chnaces of surviving by hiding
Trike vs rex: trike is slower and weaker, but grows the same and has 0 chance of surviving

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Okay read my suggestion again.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:27 AM

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still think the gore needs a nerf but.

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:27 AM

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That could work for now.

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:27 AM

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oh if you make them the same speed. trike players will start running rexes down

floral plover Mar 21, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Anyways Imma go back to playing now see ya ^.^

shut gale Mar 21, 2019, 9:28 AM

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like they did before xD

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aite ^^

wispy abyss Mar 21, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Trike speed should never be any better than an Apex Predator, otherwise we would have another big hunter in the game , but the Trike's role is the protector and defender, no the attacker. A slight buff for running speed might be ok, but rather than that it should always have a 50:50 chance defending itself against Giga/Rex, imo even a 55:45 for the trike would be fine, since it cant escape anyway.

noble dirge Mar 21, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Ngl, I really do miss how intimidating old Rex roar was. Now they sound wheezy especially at a distance, the old broadcast sounded like it rattled your bones literally.

clear turret Mar 21, 2019, 10:25 AM

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dream situation would be being able to chose which roar set you want at startup on the skin screen, but I thin kthe devs said they had no intention of changing them back

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it MIGHT be possible to do with mods once support for them gets added back i nthe future

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I mean, the REAL DREAM would be ebing able to chose subspecies as skins like they used to say they were going to do like Carchar as a giga skin, which could use different roars.

But you know how it is, time, future, all that stuff.

obsidian matrix Mar 21, 2019, 12:54 PM

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trike is trash atm with that buggy hitbox, he would be balanced as soon as they fix that

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but i doubt they will do that

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 1:09 PM

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@regal pecan unless u give me a good reason

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u better remove that thumbs down

regal pecan Mar 21, 2019, 1:10 PM

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?

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 1:10 PM

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come on now

regal pecan Mar 21, 2019, 1:11 PM

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i didnt like your proposal..i dont need to give you a reason

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 1:11 PM

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well i would like to know

regal pecan Mar 21, 2019, 1:12 PM

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why?

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 1:12 PM

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maybe cause i can improve on it

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is gasosaurus even real

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it is

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or did you just want a dinosaur that farts

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the fart part is made up

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dondiLUL

regal pecan Mar 21, 2019, 1:13 PM

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i think that your dino proposal isnt what the game needs..theres plenty of interesting dinos to add, but in my view thats not one of them..sorry...just my own opinion, maybe others will like it but i dont.

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 1:14 PM

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ok thats fine

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also im pretty sure every dino farted when they lived

violet magnet Mar 21, 2019, 1:17 PM

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what the heck is with all these weird suggestions about bodily functions

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it's a game, bro, we don't need our dinos to poop or fart

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 1:18 PM

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Gas-osaurus its in the name how could i not do this dondiLUL

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besides a skunk dino would be hilarious

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dondiLUL

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 1:20 PM

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make one if modding comes back

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 1:20 PM

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i dont know how to mod so i dought that

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i mean this is my back up plan if austro does not get a playable role

jagged badge Mar 21, 2019, 1:30 PM

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It was named Gasosaurus cause it was first discovered during the construction of a gas facility in 1985 @barren zephyr

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 1:30 PM

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i know

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its a joke

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like dilo being venomous

vagrant crest Mar 21, 2019, 1:31 PM

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when people ask for the ability to choose their spawn so they can spawn near their friends, but ignore the fact that nesting exists dondiUhh

jagged badge Mar 21, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Honestly a skunk dinosaur would cool if there was evidence

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And dilo being venomous probably isn’t true but venomous dinosaurs have been found

leaden night Mar 21, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Non

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Sino is not venomous

jagged badge Mar 21, 2019, 1:33 PM

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? I’m pretty sure it was

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It seems like it is believed to have been

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Or is at least possible

still temple Mar 21, 2019, 2:27 PM

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no dinosaur has been found to be venemous

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we do have mildly poisonous dinosaurs tho

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also I think the community would much rather have herrerasaurus than gasosaurus as the small sized pred. (+ the fucking farting is dumb)

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 2:31 PM

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chances are their prolly is a venomous dinosaur i think simply due to how common venom is even in completely different species

versed blaze Mar 21, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Um, not quite. "In 2009, a team of scientists led by Empu Gong examined a well-preserved Sinornithosaurus skull, and noted several features suggesting it was the first-identified venomous dinosaur. "

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 2:32 PM

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no

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it was disproven

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a while ago

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their havent been any venomous birds but deffo some poisonous

versed blaze Mar 21, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Disproven? No. Probably wasn't venomous after all is the title of the paper..........

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 2:33 PM

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what

versed blaze Mar 21, 2019, 2:34 PM

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The Smithsonian said "It probably wasn't venomous after all."

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 2:34 PM

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yes

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it wasnt venomous

versed blaze Mar 21, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Oops, wrong channel for this.

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Forgot this was suggestion discussion.......

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 2:39 PM

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srsly u guys cant take a joke

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besides herra should be playable the problem is autro poor lad dondiSucc

viral creek Mar 21, 2019, 2:48 PM

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It's a joke that isn't very funny

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 2:51 PM

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nor is autro playability

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dondiSucc

jagged badge Mar 21, 2019, 3:13 PM

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@still temple I never said it was guaranteed to be venomous but it isn’t impossible

still temple Mar 21, 2019, 3:15 PM

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basically impossible at this point, there is no evidence of any dinosaur possessing venom

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@jagged badge

jagged badge Mar 21, 2019, 3:16 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinornithosaurus

Sinornithosaurus

Sinornithosaurus (derived from a combination of Latin and Greek, meaning 'Chinese bird-lizard') is a genus of feathered dromaeosaurid dinosaur from the early Cretaceous Period (early Aptian) of the Yixian Formation in what is now China. It was the fifth non–avian feathered ...

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I beg your pardon

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There is some evidence suggesting it’s possible Sinornithosaurus was venomous

viral creek Mar 21, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Wikipedia dondiSmug

dapper rock Mar 21, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Why are people asking for a change in different invite colours for group/nest while we already have that?

still temple Mar 21, 2019, 3:45 PM

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@jagged badge guess you forgot to read 70% of the paragraph regarding a "venomous bite"

jagged badge Mar 21, 2019, 3:46 PM

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I did read it

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Some people oppose the idea

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And it’s just up in the air

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I never said it was guaranteed I just said it was possible

still temple Mar 21, 2019, 3:47 PM

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very unlikely

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there's more evidence disproving venom than proving it

jagged badge Mar 21, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Well unlikely isn’t impossible even the smallest chance can make the biggest different you’d be surprised

loud oasis Mar 21, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Walking snakes are scary yo

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If the public realized they existed there would be chaos, so we keep it under Wraps in 51. These dinos definitely had venom. I'm an expert dondiUhh

shut field Mar 21, 2019, 3:59 PM

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PepeS

leaden trellis Mar 21, 2019, 4:03 PM

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What is a "Chad" Rex? I am referring to AggressiveBean's Rex suggestion. I agree with it as well

violet magnet Mar 21, 2019, 4:06 PM

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a Chad is a male who thinks he's The Shit but overcompensates

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~~i.e. everyone who exclusively plays apex simply for the power trip~~

hazy sparrow Mar 21, 2019, 4:13 PM

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a death rattle? monkaS @limpid dove

wispy abyss Mar 21, 2019, 5:09 PM

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i can understand the wish of choosing to spawn closer to "your group or friends", but i like it the current way, you have to do something to get to them, if you just run all the time nd dont watch your food/water or dont take care to not get snacked, etc. well bad luck. Its a survival game, not a kindergarden set up where you can choose the most comfortable way to reach your goals. Furthermore i am sure there is an idea behind that, to keep the game more balanced, in a way that you have packs, single players, and people who desperate look to pack up. Making it too easy would destroy that natural selection feeling and encourage huge easy going packs all over the map...

glad bear Mar 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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@jolly willow alberto is just oversized

unborn quail Mar 21, 2019, 5:31 PM

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The mid tiers are still too small in general, but yes, Alberto is oversized

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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isint herra a bit big too, or is it maximum sized

jolly willow Mar 21, 2019, 5:37 PM

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mids are still too small nonetheless

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yes albert is oversized tho

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sucho and allo should be just a bit smaller than rex

lament kayak Mar 21, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Rexes are sorta apex chads, sorta boring but they still need to be seen as strong beings. I just want a deeper 1 call, the current one doesn't seem powerful enough or unique enough. The sub rex sounds deeper lol

jagged badge Mar 21, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Isn’t the game completely scaled to make the dinosaurs seem too big I mean as a trike you can fit entirely in that little box thing at the radio tower of Thenyaw

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Not to mention the grass is gonna be huge everywhere compared to a person. It is as tall as a dog cause it’s about the same size as a taco or maybe a little smaller

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In reality the map should be scaled down or the dinosaurs scaled up as in all of them that need it

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:05 PM

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gonna post a suggestion

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dondiExcite

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have fun

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but srsly i tried hard this time so go easy on it

rugged mesa Mar 21, 2019, 7:30 PM

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are there any more commands for the admins, if so how?

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:33 PM

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thats not a suggestion but ok

hasty parcel Mar 21, 2019, 7:34 PM

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😒

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some people...

pulsar lake Mar 21, 2019, 7:45 PM

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@rugged mesa go to #🔧-legacy-troubleshooting-🔧

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:45 PM

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@pulsar lake for carno that would mean if it ran off a rock on the forest it would die

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 7:45 PM

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@rugged mesa stop writing random stuff in suggestions

pulsar lake Mar 21, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Not this

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But I've tested carno and dilo falls

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And it's like some like utah

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:46 PM

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ik but ive broken my leg from running off rocks

pulsar lake Mar 21, 2019, 7:46 PM

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But lower

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:46 PM

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its balancing so it doenst die from it

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:46 PM

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dilo cant jump off a mountain heck he brokea his leg on the slope hill thingy in the test map

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tho carno ignores the fall dmg which is dumb

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:46 PM

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carno breaks its leg running off the diving board and missing water

pulsar lake Mar 21, 2019, 7:47 PM

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I've run on the slope of DV_Test, not in water, and they don't break him legs

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:47 PM

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do it

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it breaks the leg

pulsar lake Mar 21, 2019, 7:47 PM

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I do

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In water yes

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But on floor

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Nor

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not

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:47 PM

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on the floor it does

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in water it doesnt

pulsar lake Mar 21, 2019, 7:48 PM

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dondiSquint

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Hell

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:48 PM

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dilo fall is fine its carnos that is gay

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:48 PM

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carnos has to be gay to stop them from dieing from running off rocks down slopes

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its balancing

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:48 PM

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cant they trot🤔

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or crouch like other midtiers

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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carno has momentu

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like allo

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so when they stop its usually to late

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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carno shouldn't be this resistant to fall

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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its balancing so it doenst die from stupid things

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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anyone know if they will add momentum to the other dinos? it seems weird that only some have it

pulsar lake Mar 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Why carno have it ?

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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ive been saved form flying off cliffs

pulsar lake Mar 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Ik he doesn't have a good turn

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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because trees

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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cause it would be kinda broken if he started at full speed

shut field Mar 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Given how many surprise ramp rocks exist on the map currently a carno not resistant to fall damage would enter snap city the moment it goes near Titan

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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he should start full speed if he does ambush atleast (ofc normal speed no rextra)

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i think in my suggestion i said about what i mean

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:52 PM

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carno doesn't need this fall resistance they shouldn't be able to run down hills at full speed and take 0 consequences

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:52 PM

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they do take consequences

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they still break legs

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they just dont die

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:53 PM

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less consequences

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they arent as small and light or agile as dilo and utah why shouldn't they take increased fall

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:54 PM

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uh so they are balanced mabye?

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and dont get chased downhill and just die by dinos

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btw

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u can say the same for maiasaurus

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it has a decent not as good as carnos

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:55 PM

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how is it balance that only carno has it

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:55 PM

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but still op for its size

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maia also has it

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maias is smaller cuz it doesnt fly as far as carno

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:56 PM

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if something that is smaller than you is chasing you off its your fault for not defending yourself other midtiers are not even tolerant to fall dmg and break their legs easily if they're not slowing down

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 7:58 PM

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actually now that i think about it

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maias is decent af

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 7:59 PM

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carno shouldn't be able to get away like a retard by naruto running on hill/ramp its already too easy to play carno dondiFrown

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 8:00 PM

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uh well naruto and carno are the same

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;)(

waxen elk Mar 21, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Dilo
Op

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HAHAHAHAHAHJHAHAHAHA

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:22 PM

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its so stupid

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how a dilo

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can 1v1 a freaking carno

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Dilos are too op

compact matrix Mar 21, 2019, 8:23 PM

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You get hard outplayed if you lose a 1 vs 1 to dilo as carno

waxen elk Mar 21, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Exactly

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One shot and go

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Wait for it

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Take another

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repeat

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As for Cerato

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Cerato just sucks at bleed

compact matrix Mar 21, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Ceratos matchup is pretty bad

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But carno stomps dilo if you aren’t bad

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Dilo rekt me

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as a fully grown carno

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killed me with in 3-5 bites

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couldnt do anything with carno shitty turn radius

leaden night Mar 21, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Walk turn along with alt-turning

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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i play on a no alt turn server

leaden night Mar 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Then walk turn

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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I get glitched

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out

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af

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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why would you play on no alt turn

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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when I turn

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for real

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@umbral prairie More realistic

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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definitely not

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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dondiSquint

random knoll Mar 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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......

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no

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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It requires 0 skill to hunt with alt turn

random knoll Mar 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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anaimls in real life "alt Turn"

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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i mean alturn is gonna scrapped either way

waxen elk Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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It's the opposite

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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it lacks an animation but dinos turning on the spot is not unrealistic

random knoll Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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yeah i love it when utah can kill a rex

waxen elk Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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No turn just makes it become

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Utah paradise

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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yes, ass riders shall rule

random knoll Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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mcuh skill

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so wow

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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definitely

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Back walking will be added soon

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that'll solve it

hasty parcel Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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dondiSquint

random knoll Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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when was that confirmed

cyan flame Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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No it won't.. :P

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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it will lol

cyan flame Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Nothing stopping the other thing from walking backwards too? ^^

hasty parcel Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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You know what will help? The option to turn off Alt-Turn being removed

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Something will be solved

hasty parcel Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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dondiLUL

waxen elk Mar 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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It wont

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What

hasty parcel Mar 21, 2019, 8:29 PM

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It has been said several times that the option to turn off Alt-Turn for servers will be taken out

waxen elk Mar 21, 2019, 8:29 PM

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Walking backwards will stop a Utah from getting 1902894u8274 hits on a Giga and killing it?

cyan flame Mar 21, 2019, 8:29 PM

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I'm sure something will happen, but alt turn, or something similar will be around

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 8:29 PM

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also if you bug out that is a problem, but the problem is definitely not dilo being op in any way, but you being unable to properly fight because you can't turn because you bug around

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:31 PM

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its gltichy af when u turn

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like, u keep getting pulled back and shit

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 8:31 PM

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yeah that happens to me aswell but only if I turn in the same place for too long

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:31 PM

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yeah

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anyways, thanks

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 8:32 PM

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doesn't happen with alt turn btw

cyan flame Mar 21, 2019, 8:32 PM

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In any case, you could have just run ahead a bit, then walk turned and gotten the dilo.. :p

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:33 PM

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The problem is, I could of out-run it

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if the tree and rocks

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didnt come on my way

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kept getting hugged

leaden night Mar 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Just live in plains

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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it was my fault tho, running through the woods as a carno, so the dilo used that advantage

leaden night Mar 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Don't have to worry about rocks and trees if there are none dondiWeSmart

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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yeah dilo is good in forests now with the smaller turn radius

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but it really is not op

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:35 PM

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its just that carnos bleed resistance is

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garbage

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same with cera

leaden night Mar 21, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Cerato's worse

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 8:36 PM

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so if u try to outrun a dilo as a carno, ur gonna bleed to death, ur left with no choice but to fight back

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yeah ik

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 8:57 PM

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doesn't have to be a combat mode, just more attacks in general? like shaking off utahs once they can pounce or just ramming into something smaller than you throwing it back a bit

night reef Mar 21, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Copy paste was easy lol

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more attacks is good, but i was thinking if you had modes, you could consolidate key bindings. So Allo for example; "Attack mode": Left Click = bite (duh lol), right click is grapple. "Defense Mode": Left Click = tail swing left, right click = tail swing left. (replace with back kick or whatever)

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 9:02 PM

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ok how do you program that

humble tendon Mar 21, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Campering

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Ur thing is good

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But i dont think herbs have defense for now

night reef Mar 21, 2019, 9:03 PM

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I think it would work similar to selective fire for human weapons, just with different animations. I dont know how to do it lol

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Herbs have the stomp tho

humble tendon Mar 21, 2019, 9:03 PM

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So

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If someone get a shants tail u cant kill him with stomp ?

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 9:04 PM

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afaik there is a combat rework planned after the code rework so I hope they will add different attacks to counter things like ass riding, although ass riding will be less efficient with locational damage anyway

night reef Mar 21, 2019, 9:05 PM

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yea I would also say add that to shant as well, basically every dino. And with the combat rework happening and localized damaged, I thought this might be helpful

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just a different perspective

humble tendon Mar 21, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Yes

night reef Mar 21, 2019, 9:05 PM

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it might work, might not

humble tendon Mar 21, 2019, 9:05 PM

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It ll be good i think

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Cya

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Good night

night reef Mar 21, 2019, 9:06 PM

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peace

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 9:08 PM

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if they find a way to do full dino collision (so no sticking heads through things and no running through other dinos) it would be cool if you were able to smash a utah on your side against a rock

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 9:09 PM

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well ike

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alt turn would stop

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i mena

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 9:09 PM

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or run past a tree and the tree throws the utah off or sth like that

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 9:09 PM

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walk ing backwards

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if u make bigger dinos walk back faster

night reef Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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yea walk backwards and collision would be great

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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I think programming collision that way with accurate 'collision boxes' (idk how u call them) without tons of bugs would be difficult though

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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id assume a carno running with a utah on the side

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if the utqah hits a tree

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dead

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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well, at least some fractures

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 9:11 PM

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52.2Kmp/h

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utahs head be smashed

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hitting a tree

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to smash a tree u need 70,000Ns of force

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 9:11 PM

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yeah but if a carno runs against a big rock with that speed it would have to die from that too then

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 9:11 PM

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sammel

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im talking about ways to counter act utah grapple

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not actual physics

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 PM

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yeah I know, I just think it would be weird to see a carno smash into a rock full speed and just walking off

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 PM

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and also remember with grapple utahs can basically go through walls

umbral prairie Mar 21, 2019, 9:12 PM

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like it is now

sacred wyvern Mar 21, 2019, 9:13 PM

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and also survive impossible falls

night reef Mar 21, 2019, 9:13 PM

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theyll have that fixed im sure

viral creek Mar 21, 2019, 9:47 PM

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@valid flower

Official servers on v3 rarely crash for me. Chances are it's an issue with a specific server.

What server do you play on?

clever leaf Mar 21, 2019, 9:47 PM

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cerato bleeding out from dilo

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that's cerato needing bleed resistance buff

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that aint dilo being op lmao

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 9:52 PM

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@viral creek Popular EU server

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Teutonic

oblique crown Mar 21, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Dilo is fine.

viral creek Mar 21, 2019, 9:52 PM

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How many player slots?

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Any server with 200 people or over is bound to crash

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V3 isn't optimized to handle that many people

oblique crown Mar 21, 2019, 9:54 PM

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@barren zephyr Why not?

barren zephyr Mar 21, 2019, 9:55 PM

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sucho is supposed to be semi aquatic

oblique crown Mar 21, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Semi aquatic things can move fast on land. Hell even turtles.

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@pulsar lake Abused how? It's a good way to stop big things from tracking\chasing you.

valid flower Mar 21, 2019, 10:47 PM

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@mild basin I like ur ideas

candid quiver Mar 21, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Utah Rock was toxic for gameplay, people would just sit up there and do nothing and not participate in the "survival" part of the game

languid crag Mar 21, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Okay but I don’t see the problem there?

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If ppl wanna be puss*s let them

candid quiver Mar 21, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Why should one group of players be unkillable by everyone else?

languid crag Mar 21, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Cuz they are Utah’s. It’s their thing to stay on rocks and stuff

candid quiver Mar 21, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Not anymore

languid crag Mar 21, 2019, 11:08 PM

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And it was a good place if you needed some action

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There would always be carnis there

candid quiver Mar 21, 2019, 11:08 PM

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The devs are clear, they don't want to promote that kind of playstyle

lone crypt Mar 21, 2019, 11:08 PM

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I wouldn’t see the problem with multiple, small rocks throughout the map for utahs, but RR was an issue.

languid crag Mar 21, 2019, 11:08 PM

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RR?

lone crypt Mar 21, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Raptor rock

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Or Utah rock

languid crag Mar 21, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Oh

candid quiver Mar 21, 2019, 11:09 PM

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And there's always twins if you want a popular spot close to spawn

languid crag Mar 21, 2019, 11:10 PM

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Yeah twins is good

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What about Pteras then

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They are just going to be flying and stuff, isn’t that what the devs don’t want?

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It’s the same thing as Utah rock

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Guess we’ll see, good talk ^^

candid quiver Mar 21, 2019, 11:12 PM

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There's not a lot to do about them, them being able to go anywhere is the sole point of them
Utahs participate in the ground side just like other dinos, it isn't the same

nocturne blaze Mar 22, 2019, 12:58 AM

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@desert prairie why

desert prairie Mar 22, 2019, 1:00 AM

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juvi's sounds better

nocturne blaze Mar 22, 2019, 1:01 AM

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yeah but it sounds like a juvie, not an adult animal

restive mantle Mar 22, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Hit boxes are still broke?

📎 20190321194835_1.jpg

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Not moving except for rex's head to figure out new hitboxes. Rex hit dilo from there.

pine brook Mar 22, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Same thing has been going on with maia

restive mantle Mar 22, 2019, 1:56 AM

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as in maias are hitting where they shouldnt? or getting hit when they shouldnt be?

paper oriole Mar 22, 2019, 2:20 AM

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oh so thats how the rex killed my utah from like 6 feet away over a slope earlier, sheesh

rocky iris Mar 22, 2019, 2:43 AM

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@rugged mesa I think you mean to ask that in #401464048610312195 cause #general-feedback is for suggestions not questions / discussion.

pine brook Mar 22, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Maias are hitting about a half utah length away from where their head is hitting

wintry cipher Mar 22, 2019, 5:12 AM

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Treat everything like it has a 15 foot pole on the end of it and you'll do surprisingly well atm

silent stream Mar 22, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Has official server population increase ever been discussed? I Think it would solve a lot of problems and would make the game a lot more fun and realistic. And not to feel like a desert even when the server is full

wispy abyss Mar 22, 2019, 11:42 AM

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@silent stream i also wonder about that, and i guess most agree that on V3 Map, 100 players is not enough, 200 players is pretty well, may be even 250 would be ok. There must be some reasosn why atm the official servers dont increase the capacity. (AI spawn, lag, ping, strange hitbox, etc.). I just havent heard any statement from the Devs yet, may be i have overseen it....?

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But i am pretty sure they will increase it, when u think further about humans ingame, etc. So, we dont know ofc, but guess like 30-50% of all players would be human on any server, if 110 stays the maximum we would only have like 50 dinos on this huge map....simply too less

native vale Mar 22, 2019, 12:56 PM

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@wispy abyss AI has a tendency to get wonky with too many players and then there's lag from what I recall. The devs have talked about it before, but I don't recall anything else from memory being an issue.

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There was something about frequent crashes as well.

wispy abyss Mar 22, 2019, 1:40 PM

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@native vale yes, i can confirm that on 200 player servers (with more than like 150 online) you can face real troubles to find AI spawn when you play alone. Within a pack it is usually very well, even when 200 are online. Experienced players will be able to make it like 80% of the time though, but newbies will have a hard time on those servers, once they get full. The crashes in my experience have stopped some patches ago, but there are always rumors (be it true or not) that the hitbox behaves weird on those inofficial servers.

noble dirge Mar 22, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Trike doesn't need a buff now, carnis just need to lose their telekinesis powers.

native vale Mar 22, 2019, 2:24 PM

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@wispy abyss Hitboxes are (were, I suppose) weird on official servers as well - hopefully that has been fixed with the patch that was pushed live, though!

spiral pond Mar 22, 2019, 2:44 PM

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not apex hitboxes

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apex hitboxes have some superpowers

regal pecan Mar 22, 2019, 3:42 PM

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it seems that Trikes hitbox have superpowers too...now they can hit you one mile away lol

ionic comet Mar 22, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Trike doesn't need any buffs, its actually quite good now

valid flower Mar 22, 2019, 3:47 PM

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^ it isnt

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rex can face tank u

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as a trike

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and end u

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easily

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same with giga, instead giga cant face tank but can still wreck 2 trikes as a solo giga

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Trikes need a stomp rework

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thats it

spiral pond Mar 22, 2019, 3:48 PM

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i think it got changed now ?

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since it has an actual hitbox

valid flower Mar 22, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Ye ik

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i tested it with my friends

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trikes suck like ass

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sadly

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test rex v trike face tanking eachother

lone crypt Mar 22, 2019, 5:21 PM

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I still think that trike should get a general attack buff, like the secondary attack should do more damage

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And lower the chance of it getting BB and increase bleed resistance

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But not by much, all of these things combined should help, even if each is changed slightly

oblique crown Mar 22, 2019, 7:33 PM

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@silent stream over a millon times.

gleaming holly Mar 22, 2019, 7:45 PM

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@thorny lynx I have no idea, I can't speak for creatures that don't exist yet. Everything is subject to change now anyway, especially with this re-code being in the works.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Ah.

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I should have clarified I was not necessarily asking you, sorry xD

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 8:19 PM

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@open sedge idk where to write stuff about feedback so I'll put it here. giga is supposed to be the endurance hunter of this game, rex is the ambusher. asking for a faster giga would result in most mid tier dinos getting mauled by gigas and all their speeds would have to be changed to counter that, and balance would be very off. giga is a bit slow right now but it is better for balance, because a couple of months ago gigas just ran around thenyaw shredding mid tiers and fearing nothing, as rex was slower than them.

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I could imagine a slight rex speed nerf down to 31 km/h so it needs way longer to catch up to gigas, but I would leave giga slower than re as rex is the fast ambusher in this game

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Rex should be faster. The point of a Giga is maybe not to ambush people, but to outmaneuver and bleed out heavy dinos.

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I mean Giga should be faster. Sorry, got confused there.

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Rex was really slow irl.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 8:27 PM

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this is not irl though, but I agree that giga should definitely be able to bleed out large dinos

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Rex should have slower sprint but maybe a faster ambush

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Gigas need to be faster because otherwise Rexes would just hunt them.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 8:29 PM

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giga vs rex is weird rn

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bb is way too strong

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but with locational damage rex won't be able to just break a giga leg from biting it's tail once

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imo giga should be able to bleed out a rex, which it can't right now because rex has bb

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 8:30 PM

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They should both be capable of killing each other. The Giga should be able to outrun and outmaneuvre a Rex, bleeding it out, but the Rex should be able to kill a Giga if the Giga is stupid and hangs around to brawl or if it gets its leg broken.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 8:30 PM

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but rex should win a facetank-ish situation

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Yeah I hate that

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Yeah, exactly. Giga should be good at taking heavier dinos by surprise, but I could see Rex having a faster ambush speed maybe.

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But they would have to really nerf its stamina for that to be fair.

loud oasis Mar 22, 2019, 8:33 PM

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I like the way they have to sit to regain stamina

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That is a major drawback for them

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 8:33 PM

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I think it makes more sense for Rex to be the endurance/tank hunter and the Giga to be the ambush hunter. Rex in game and IRL is heavy and slow, but with a lot of health and direct damage. IRL Rex would have had a lot of stamina, as was shown by some study.

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Plus, it's better if Giga is the ambush hunter because that's a good way to attack heavier, stronger animals.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 8:35 PM

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I think giga needs to keep it's stam as it is supposed to be an endurance hunter, which is why it can regen stam while trotting at a pretty good trot speed.

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and irl rex doesn't matter tbh

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it is good as a powerful ambusher

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giga could be slightly faster, enough to get hits in on a sauropod, also sauropod attacks need to have some sort of weak spots on their side, with giga being able to inflict more bleed there with locational damage

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the buff would need to be so small that it remains sloer than the mid tiers it is slower as right now

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Maybe. I can see how the only way that Rex would be able to catch smaller dinos is through ambush, and maybe its ambush can be faster than the Giga's, but the Giga needs to have a decently faster sprint speed and make sharper turns.

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Yes, of course, mid-tiers should be faster, maybe with the exception of Sucho.

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Maybe everything could just be made faster, including the Giga, just not the heavies.

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That would take a lot of work though, so maybe they can find the sweet spot where Giga would be able to easily outrun its heavy prey (Rex included, though it's usually not prey), but not anything lighter.

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Maybe the heavies could be made slower, too,

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I like what you said about the weak spot idea. Heavier animals should also attack slower.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 8:58 PM

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I wish Rex was more of a pursuit hunter, chasing down the exhausted and killing them in heavy blows. I really hope when Rex targets the neck or spine, he deals double damage, like, it could be his gimmick because of his crushing bite.

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Yeah

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:00 PM

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I like the idea that rex deals way more damage to lighter prey like maias and paras but is weak against things like sauropods

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Rex should have a lot of stamina, but be slow.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:00 PM

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but I also like that rex is an ambusher

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we had a slow rex

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and it was only living off of AI

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giga doesn't need to be an ambusher, it needs to be enduring so it can wear down sauropods

loud oasis Mar 22, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Which is how it is currently

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Maybe. Rex should be good at ambushing smaller, faster prey, but Giga should be better at ambushing heavier, slower prey.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:01 PM

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so making rex another endurant hunter would make few sense

loud oasis Mar 22, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Rex literally has to stop and sit to regain stamina

torpid wedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:01 PM

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i love the human call ideas lol

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:02 PM

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It needs to be faster though, and with sharper turns.

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Thanks, lol.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Rex is more equipped to fight armored herbivores, like Trike and Anky

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Or large hadrosaurs

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Exactly

loud oasis Mar 22, 2019, 9:02 PM

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No rex would take on a trike if the fight was 50/50 which is what people are asking for

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:02 PM

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giga should have the chance of wearing a rex down with bleed, but if both engage from the front the rex should win

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Sauropods aren't his thing because he cannot reach the neck or the spine, where he would guarantee a kill if he bit there there.

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:03 PM

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They should both be good at ambushing, just Giga should have a much faster sprinting speed.

spiral pond Mar 22, 2019, 9:03 PM

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It can’t be faster

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:03 PM

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In fact, Rex should be able to head-shot or do significant damage if he targets your neck

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Maybe Rex could even have faster ambush and/or longer ambush duration.

spiral pond Mar 22, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Since it would have to be revalued entirely

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:03 PM

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I wish Rex had a faster trot.

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His long legs

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Don't carry him too far

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:04 PM

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trike should be next to impossible to kill from the front but if a rex manages to get a trike's neck it should severely damage the trike

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rex is probably getting new animations afaik

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:04 PM

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They're garbage

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Giga needs to be faster because otherwise Rexes would just hunt them, and we can't have that.

spiral pond Mar 22, 2019, 9:04 PM

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You can’t have a 6 ton animal running around killing everything it sees except gallis while dealing like 100 bleed to allo

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:04 PM

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they would not 'just hunt them'

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as their stamina is trash

spiral pond Mar 22, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Avoid them

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Also you outtrot then

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Adult apexes should be capable of killing each other, but they shouldn't generally be prey to one another.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Exactly

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:05 PM

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if they were slower gigas would 'just hunt them' because they have 4 times the stam

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which is how it should be

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Gigas do not have 4 times the stan

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Not now

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:05 PM

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But a Rex would just run them down.

loud oasis Mar 22, 2019, 9:05 PM

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But rex has to lay down to regain theirs

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:06 PM

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rex cannot run gigas down with sprint

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Well, that's how it should be.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:06 PM

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because it cqan't catch uo in time unless it started off being very close to the giga

loud oasis Mar 22, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Which gigas shouldn't even be that close to a rex

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Rex's ambush is effectively 4 seconds. 2 seconds to get to top speed and 4 seconds for the rest

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It's garbage

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:07 PM

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which is very short

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and would require rex to get extremely close before ambushing

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:07 PM

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I wish it had 7 or 8 seconds

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:07 PM

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if rex was slower than giga it would have to get super close to land it's ambush and if it fail it is done for

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as it's stam is pretty low

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Ok, but if a Rex is supposed to be a good ambush hunter, then shouldn't it be good at hiding?

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:07 PM

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and it can't regen it

woven patio Mar 22, 2019, 9:08 PM

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i cant see all the voice channels

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Rexes were endurance hunters, weren't they? They were able to track down prey for miles just by scent alone

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:08 PM

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because there is a giga near, waiting for it to sit down

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:08 PM

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They should have godly stam

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:08 PM

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stop with irl

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this is balancing

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:08 PM

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I think there should be a mechanic that reduces the amount of damage apexes do to each other, period

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:09 PM

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they should also have every dinosaur on the map marked by scent if you go by irl standards

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Like, you have to fight twice as long to kill another rex or another giga

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:09 PM

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let's wait for the combat rework

loud oasis Mar 22, 2019, 9:09 PM

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There's no point in it being a good tracker if it can't catch anything

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:09 PM

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where giga will hopefully have a damage/bleed multiplier when attacking a sauropod's side

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and rex will be able to crush most smaller thing's necks, but will have to get close to them before engaging

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Yes, dilo/dryo colors when (fluff). This is why Rex should be a high-stamina tank that can tire out smaller or armored dinos, and have that really good scent. I agree that it should have good ambush, but Giga should be faster with less stamina and maybe faster ambush speed. A fast tank is over-powered.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:10 PM

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rex can't tire out anything

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it bites them

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and they're either done for

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or too heavy for rex to crush the bones

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or they're trike and are vulnerable from the back

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rex really is not op at the moment, just the giga-rex matchup is fucked up because of bb

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Well, it should. It should be able to either tire an animal out, or ambush it at close range and break its leg.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:12 PM

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bb is the main problem imo

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Yeah

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:12 PM

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if rex needed to actually bite down on a gigas leg for a bit to get it broken

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the matchup would be much better

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also with locational damage ass riding will not be a thing anymore (or at least less effective)

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Yes, like I said earlier, the Rex should be able to kill the Giga if it breaks its leg or if the Giga is within range for too long, but the Giga should be able to bleed out the Rex if it carefully uses hit-and-run tactics and/or takes it by surprise.

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If Rex is faster than a Giga, then the Giga has no chance against it since it is faster, has more health, and does more instant damage.

spiral pond Mar 22, 2019, 9:16 PM

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But it’s 50:50 with giga v Rex matchup

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Depends on bone break

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I mean, if they add proper momentum mchanics, rex will need some time to get to it's sprint

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I say make the Rex slower and with more stamina, but keep its tankyness.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:16 PM

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so if a giga runs up to it, and hits it

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rex needs to keep the fast ambush though, might need to be a bit longer if the base speed gets slower, so it can hunt things without having to get extremely close

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it should get close

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but even witha 50 km/h ambush you need to be very close if it only lasts 5 seconds

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with a 50 km/h ambush that lasts 6 seconds you get around 80 meters far

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if your target notices you and runs away

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that's nothing

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Think about it this way: If an ambush predator gets close to the endurance predator (as ambush predators are supposed to, hiding behind foliage), but the ambush predator has more health and does more instant damage, the other endurance predator is just going to get killed, and it's unfair. It makes more sense for an endurance predator to have more health and damage, and the ambush predator to have higher bleed and be faster. That way, nobody is stuck with having no chance of defending themselves if one predator acts a certain way. If an animal has a lot of stamina, but is being hunted at close range by a faster predator that does more damage and has more health, the high-stamina animal is just going to get run down and killed. However, if it is more balanced, and the endurance animal has more health and stamina, has a chance to imobilize the other, and does more direct damage, and the ambusher has less health and does less direct damage, but is faster, more agile, and can bleed out the other one, then each has a fair chance.

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I'm getting off now. No offence, but this has taken too much time.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 9:27 PM

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it has taken a lot of time, but I still don't get why you think an ambusher needs to have high bleed, as bleeding something out is something that needs endurance. I guess this is getting nowhere, it makes few sense to me they way you see it but I don't want to continue this either.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:55 PM

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I feel like Rex only needs to be faster than his fastest prey item, which are hadrosaurs like Maia and Para. If we had more slow and heavy herbivores like Stego and Anky, he would not need to be so fast.

ionic comet Mar 22, 2019, 9:58 PM

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If rex was faster than para, that'd be broken af

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 9:58 PM

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He already is when he ambushes

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But he is too fast

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I wish rex trotted like juvie rex

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Use those legs to get somewhere

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I wish apexes took longer strides when they run or trot in general. Rex doesn't look like he is extending his legs enough.

feral turret Mar 22, 2019, 10:12 PM

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what if giggle had a certain amount of BB resist?

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as in instead of a 60% chance of getting BB'd

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it was like 40% or so for giga

jolly willow Mar 22, 2019, 10:16 PM

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why do giga players always complain about rex 24/7

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its always the fucking giga v rex matchup

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the only thing between it as far as i can see right now is BB being an unwanted little shit

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once thats reworked itll be better

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:18 PM

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You know, ever since Sue basically got an update with new ribs bones and a more complete skeleton, I have a feeling Rex is getting a new model

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Its legs constantly clip into its sides and it stands at an angle in its idle animation

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Plus, the details on the neck are really sub-par. I can really see the polygons on the neck...

feral turret Mar 22, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Gigas shit on everything in the game except other apexes

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:20 PM

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📎 1200px-FMNH_Tyrannosaurus_rex_Sue.jpg

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This looks so much more heavy than what we have now

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And I noticed our rexes have very few teeth in their mouths

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:32 PM

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I think the rex model is fine for now, they might adjust it at some point but I think the model we have is already pretty good an the focus should be at more important things

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Sue looks almost front heavy like that

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maybe they stood a little differently than how they put the skeleton there

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:33 PM

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I'm talking about the midsection

dull kayak Mar 22, 2019, 10:33 PM

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You know how expensive it is to re-model, right? and you were talking about all 3 life stages?

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:33 PM

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even if only the adult stage

dull kayak Mar 22, 2019, 10:34 PM

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'Sue' will probably under-go more changes and then need another re-model if the devs were to follow with keeping to sues skeletal structure

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:34 PM

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it is not really worth it, considering TI dinos are not supposed to be as accurat as possible

dull kayak Mar 22, 2019, 10:34 PM

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That's Saurians job XD

steel quartz Mar 22, 2019, 10:34 PM

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This is my fav dinosaur.
Would be cool to have him with a gliding function.
Or get some tree climbers.

📎 65bf9b6130537824096cbe381d0c3551.jpg

dull kayak Mar 22, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I love current Rex

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I feel he could look better.

dull kayak Mar 22, 2019, 10:35 PM

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ambush something and bb, fun hunts

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:35 PM

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He has chipped and missing teeth all over the place and the way he stands bothers me.

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And he also does not have very many teeth

dull kayak Mar 22, 2019, 10:35 PM

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the teeth on all models are weird atm, so untextured

oblique crown Mar 22, 2019, 10:35 PM

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If rex is fat like that better lose speed lol.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:36 PM

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I think the mouth looks a bit buggy, there are dark lines inside the mouth where they shouldn't be, apart from that it is fine

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it could use a few more teeth but that is also something that is more likely to get changed once the game is in a more finished state

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:38 PM

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📎 unknown-1.png

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There is also a huge gap I forgot to point out

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Idk why, but Rex has such few polygons

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It bothers me.

earnest cave Mar 22, 2019, 10:40 PM

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@thorny lynx way do you Wana a realistic Dino in a game that isn't meant to be realistic?

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:40 PM

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I would at least like it to look nice

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Not have chipped and missing teeth

earnest cave Mar 22, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Na I don't agree

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👍

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Yeah, like one missing tooth for character, but the missing teeth are symmetrical

earnest cave Mar 22, 2019, 10:41 PM

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The Rex oly need better animations

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:41 PM

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It could still use more polishing.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:42 PM

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it is getting new anims

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but in the last clip I saw of them they were very unpolished

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I really hope they are a wip

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 10:42 PM

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They are a WIP.

earnest cave Mar 22, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Waw that was a mean comment

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Hhh the lack of polygons in the throat area bother me. They're triangles.

earnest cave Mar 22, 2019, 10:44 PM

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The game is not realistic and is not meant to be

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Well, I expected models that did not have leg problems and had fluid, life-like animations instead of robotic garbage in 2019. These new animations are so stiff and lifeless and weightless.

earnest cave Mar 22, 2019, 10:46 PM

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dondiFeels

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Ok thx for giving your opinion

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:46 PM

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And it isn't a recode issue.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:46 PM

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yeah I agree that some animations look weird

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Allo's trot tho

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From the side

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-shudder-

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Carno has some issues in its animations, too. Eating, drinking, and 3 calling make its feet slide inward without taking steps.

earnest cave Mar 22, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I think they are good

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Why should your feet slide inward and outwards when you are standing still

earnest cave Mar 22, 2019, 10:50 PM

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And some ofe them don't feel like roboti

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Sucho does.

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Sub rex does.

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Adult rex does.

earnest cave Mar 22, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Nice to them

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Look at allo's leg when it trots. The animation isn't smooth

earnest cave Mar 22, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Thas a animation problem they don't need new models or new animations to fix that

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See done

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dondiTroll 👍

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Well, it is a consistent 'new animation' problem.

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All of these 'new animations' have the same problems.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:51 PM

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https://clips.twitch.tv/AttractiveElatedBadgerDeIlluminati Is this from today's dev stream?

Twitch

RR_Raptor65 Playing Creative - Twitch Clips

The Isle Animation #gamedev - Clipped by toomanycooksv3

▶ Play video

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Omg. That looks so good

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:52 PM

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it looks a bit too light

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but it is nice

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:52 PM

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But yeah, too light

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I wanna see him drop every time he takes a step

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Too bad, that's not how it's being animated.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:53 PM

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I want to see allo get new animations.

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 10:54 PM

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This is Bryan's style of animation, don't constantly Hammer him with bull shit because you disagree with the lack in fluidity and muscle movement

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Which are all things that can still be added at a later date.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:55 PM

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I miss how old animations had a certain bounce and weight to them that made them look like immensely large animals.

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Old allo animations were so nice.

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 10:56 PM

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No they weren't

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Old Allo animations literally turned Allo into a hop scotch jumper

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Allo's animations feel unpolished. The trot animation has a visible jerk of the leg when it pulls the leg back forward.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:57 PM

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many old animations made it so the whole torso moved to one side very heavily and the head bent the other way to counter that and that looked very weird

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Maybe because they're waiting to polish them at a later date because that isn't a main focus atm

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:57 PM

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I think juvie rex still moves like that

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:58 PM

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Juvie rex is dorky boi

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Leave him alone

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 10:58 PM

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You forget the devs have more important things to push money into other than Minuscule animation details

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 10:58 PM

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But his feet do bounce too much

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 10:58 PM

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And this is why none of your suggestions are taken seriously

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'It's not bouncy enough!' 'it's TOO BOUNCY!'

barren zephyr Mar 22, 2019, 10:59 PM

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You mean like a real animal?

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:59 PM

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I just hope rex is going to be loud af when running, and that they fix not hearing things running up on you from behind

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 10:59 PM

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Sound issues is a recode thing

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That won't be resolved for sometime

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 10:59 PM

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yeah I know

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I don't expect any updates anytime soon

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Most likely for the best

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:02 PM

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I kinda thought they were already in the process of rewriting the code

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:02 PM

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I have good suggestions. I just don't know how to properly describe what is wrong. All I can say is that the body feels weightless, the spine is stiff, and the way dinosaurs propel themselves forward by drawing their leg back does not feel fluid and it jerks a bit.

barren zephyr Mar 22, 2019, 11:04 PM

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Why did you feel the need to say you have good suggestions?

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:04 PM

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Because Nova just said no one takes me seriously when I suggest something.

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:05 PM

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I like the Microraptor idea.

blazing charm Mar 22, 2019, 11:06 PM

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ngl that sounds kinda narcissistic to automatically assume you have a good suggestion imo

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Your opinion changes on things so much that it makes it nearly impossible, All of your suggestions literally revolve around nitpicking of small details with things that aren't even final

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Not to mention the constant asking of things the developers themselves, have had to personally, multiple times mind you, to stop asking for because it's not something they want to do nor progress back to.

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:10 PM

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I agree with nova. The game is still in EA at the moment. Right now, clearly their top priority is not fixing minor "issues" with animations. The things you're suggesting don't affect gameplay at all, it's a nitpick and an aesthetic pet peeve.

unborn quail Mar 22, 2019, 11:11 PM

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^

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Actually, there was only one time a dev told me to stop asking for old Rex roars back, that was it, as far as I can remember.

barren zephyr Mar 22, 2019, 11:13 PM

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You also tagged a dev one time even tough that's the number one rule

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Okay, so... Because you were only asked to stop once, that means as long as you aren't asked to stop again, it's okay to keep asking? dondiThink

blazing charm Mar 22, 2019, 11:14 PM

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They've tagged devs multiple times but that is besides the point.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:15 PM

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In my defense, they tagged me in the middle of a racing chat and I had to respond back to them.

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I've seen people tag devs to thank them for something.

barren zephyr Mar 22, 2019, 11:15 PM

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They have the right to do that you are in their server after all

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:16 PM

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I know, but they were only answering my question or providing feedback to something I said. I was just getting their attention back after chat scrolled too quickly. They weren't scolding me.

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Anyway, idk why we would need Sarcosuchus when we're getting Deino.

random knoll Mar 22, 2019, 11:20 PM

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variation?

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:21 PM

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It does the same thing Deino does. It just has a bigger snoot.

paper oriole Mar 22, 2019, 11:21 PM

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why do we have dibbles when we have trike?

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one is a bigger than the other

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Good point

paper oriole Mar 22, 2019, 11:22 PM

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we could always use more variety

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:22 PM

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But Sarco is only slightly larger than Deino. It's like

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Tawbosawus

paper oriole Mar 22, 2019, 11:22 PM

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so no reason not to have both

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:22 PM

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All over again

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:22 PM

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I mean, suggestions for variation are a bit early, if there was an idea to make it noticeably different from deino then ok

paper oriole Mar 22, 2019, 11:22 PM

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i for once really want oviraptor and nigersaurus lol

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:22 PM

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there is a reason, and that is money

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Honestly I'd be okay with a smaller counterpart to deino, but I don't think it should be sarco. (don't kill me)

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:23 PM

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asking for Sarcosuchus with Deino is like asking for Tarbosaurus while we have Rex

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:23 PM

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making sarco would probably cost multiple thousands

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Except Deino is smaller, in this case

paper oriole Mar 22, 2019, 11:24 PM

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i think that it's nice to have the variety even if theyr epretty similar, but i'd also prefer if they worked on adding unique dinos before adding subspecies or similars

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:24 PM

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so as long as something is not noticeably different in their playstyle/ niche it's really not worth the money right now,

random knoll Mar 22, 2019, 11:24 PM

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yeah

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Kaprosuchus is interesting

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long leg boi

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:24 PM

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maybe when the game is in a more finished state they will add things more similar to dinos already in game

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kapro would be very different from deino

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:25 PM

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ye ik

paper oriole Mar 22, 2019, 11:25 PM

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yea they have neat teeth

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big chompers

viral creek Mar 22, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Find out a way to make deino and Sarco notebly different from eachother looks, and playstyle wise, then I'm sold

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:25 PM

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that would be more likely to be added since I'd imagine kapro to have a different playstyle than deino

viral creek Mar 22, 2019, 11:25 PM

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New playables aren't cheap

paper oriole Mar 22, 2019, 11:25 PM

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yea their legs look more suited for an ambush sprint from shallower water maybe

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or something

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Kapro would be faster on land than deino

paper oriole Mar 22, 2019, 11:26 PM

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theyd probably have a speedy sprint with low stam like rex

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:26 PM

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because leg

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:26 PM

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and deino would probably have the dominance in water over kapro

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:26 PM

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kapro would like the swamps the best, deinos would swarm all over titan lake

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:26 PM

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but kapro could use water to ambush if there are no deinos in the water already

viral creek Mar 22, 2019, 11:27 PM

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I don't think kapro would hold up well against our current roster

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:27 PM

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u right

viral creek Mar 22, 2019, 11:27 PM

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He's smaller than a utah.
Despite having longer legs, I can't imagine him being that fast

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And he'll be dominated in the water by other semiaquatic animals like deino and sucho

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:28 PM

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I really can't think of any other smaller crocodilian off the top of my head other than kapro

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I think I just like kapro because he looks weird and unique compared to some of the other bois

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:29 PM

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I apologize if I offended anyone with my comments.

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Kapro would be nice. Could be pretty fast on land and not that bad in water.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I do understand this is EA, but... I expected a bit more quality than what we have now after all this time.

viral creek Mar 22, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Not faster than his predators on land

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I'm hoping the recode will fix that.

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Maybe they could even add a pounce like Ark

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Maybe it could be faster. That and/or its armor provides some protection.

viral creek Mar 22, 2019, 11:30 PM

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No way he will outspeed TI's utahraptor, nor beat him.

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He could be cool ai

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But not a viable playable

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He just wouldn't survive against our current roster

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:31 PM

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I disagree. If he was fast and had armor, then he would be playable. Also, he could do a lot of damage for his size because of his teeth.

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That combination could make him playable.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:32 PM

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I'm happy there was no 'add ice age things' suggestion in a while

viral creek Mar 22, 2019, 11:32 PM

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How fast?

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Lol

viral creek Mar 22, 2019, 11:33 PM

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The reason I think he won't work is because the smallest playables in game...dilo and utah were pretty large compared to him

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Maybe as fast as a Utahraptor at MOST. (Sorry for caps, just wanted to add emphasis to that word)

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:33 PM

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I can't imagine a kapro running that fast

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maybe as a short ambush out of the water or sth

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:34 PM

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I can imagine a kapro ambushing that fast, but not running

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Maybe he could get a little size buff, then. Kaprosuchus's remains are incomplete, and his size has been estimated to be much bigger before.

viral creek Mar 22, 2019, 11:34 PM

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And that's why chances are...he won't be viable.

I kapro going that speed would look silly.

And utah would crush him. Utah isn't small at all.

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Dilo could probs mess him up aswell

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Don't get me wrong, I love kapro as an animal

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But he wouldn't be very viable as a playable, considering his competition

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:35 PM

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crocodilians' bite force is something to be reckoned with though, I can imagine his bite force being higher than it looks for his size

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Yeah, maybe Kapro would work really well as ambush. He's low to the ground because he's a quadruped, so maybe he could have a fast crouching speed, short ambush speed charging time, high ambush speed, and long ambush speed duration. He could have armor once the new armor system is implemented, so he's not just a hot dog. Also, like pether nortal said, Kapro could have a strong bite force for his size and do more damage on top of that because of his totally badass sabre teeth.

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Hey, is Acrocanthosaurus planned for AI?

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I think those combinations are enough for Kaprosuchus to hold his own.

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Yeah from what I heard, I don't know much about it since it was all rumors from my end

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Oh nice.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:39 PM

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I'd imagine AI this big to be far more complicated than the ones we currently have

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:39 PM

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I just wish that they would make the AI a little less... stupid.

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yeah

viral creek Mar 22, 2019, 11:40 PM

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AI will be fleshed out in the future

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:40 PM

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and looking at how stupid the current AI is I'd imagine it will take some time until they get acro AI

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:40 PM

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I bet acro will be the one to really fight back. I hope it gets sized down before they add it though.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:40 PM

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maybe the recode will help

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:40 PM

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Yeah probably.

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:41 PM

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Recode sounds probably a lot better for the ai... maybe this time avas can headbutt and kill juvi utahs..

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:41 PM

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Thicc frog

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:41 PM

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acro would need to react differently on different dinosaur sizes (if it is the prey or the predator in the situation) and to the size of the herd/pack it is facing

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an acro would probably attack a solo allo

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:42 PM

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Avas take 3 hits to kill a fully-grown juvenile utah

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:42 PM

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but not a pack of them

shell willow Mar 22, 2019, 11:42 PM

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fully grown juvenile utah dondiThink

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:42 PM

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Tested it

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... I wonder if AI velos are different entities altogether, since they do more damage than player velos.

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Y'know, for a while I had an idea about Acro being like a sub-apex to Giga, Daspletosaurus being like a sub-apex to Rex, and Sucho being size-buffed and being a sub-apex of Spino, making room for Baryonyx in Survival (actually I probably only wanted this so Bary could be in survival). But now I realize that would just be kind of unnecessary and would really mess up the food chain.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Avas don't even cause bleed. Just damage. I honestly would expect that from something with horns pointing down attacking in an uppercut.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:45 PM

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ava should bite

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Avaceratops is like a goat.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:45 PM

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it could snap some ankles

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with that beak

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Yeah, ceratopsian beaks could crunch through bone

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Ava should bite, but it should also gore forward with its horns rather than upward.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Some paleontologists are beginning to think they were omnivorous

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:46 PM

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That's why Taco should get a damage buff and maybe that's what Protoceratops could do if it's ever added.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Why not Pachyrhino

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Omnivorous ceratopsians? I doubt it. That would really put the ecosystems off balance, plus their teeth were designed for grinding plants.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:47 PM

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I'm not saying in game

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:47 PM

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I know

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I'm talking about real life

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:47 PM

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But I am saying their beaks were strong enough to eat pinecones with ease

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Yeah, of course. Just not meat

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:48 PM

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if they ate meat then probably just leftovers laying around

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Pachyrhinosaurus will be able to bash things up with its own head.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:48 PM

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but them eatimg meat sounds weird in general

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:48 PM

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I want pachyrhino so bad

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Lemme smash, please

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:49 PM

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The Devs said something really Game of Thrones-sounding like "if Triceratops is the spear, then Pachyrhinosaurus is the warhammer."

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Me too!

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It would be cool for it to do damage and bone break, but also maybe some kind of torpor effect?

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:50 PM

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I'm not sure where Maia and Diablo fit in the ecosystem, if I am perfectly honest.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:50 PM

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I hope that with dino collision we will get ramming with every dino to some extent

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I mean if a rex runs into a para it won't just stand there not moving

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:51 PM

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If they added bludgeoning torpor mechanics, that could give Pachycephalosaurus an advantage, and maybe open up a spot in the the carnivores, maybe for some thick-skulled abelisaur like Rugops or Rajasaurus.

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Yeah

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Pachyrhino weighed 4 tons

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I bet it could smash some legs

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Maia is a fast, running herbivore that is best on plains. It's the biggest herbivore that's a really good runner (really fast, low stamina drain)

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:52 PM

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and if a carno runs against a rock full speed I hope that it won't just continue sticking it's body through the rock (like now) but instead lose it's speed, get some damage, get a dizzyness effect or something similar

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Rugops would be cool

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:52 PM

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didn't they have a rugops model?

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Rugops can be like

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Heavy damage boi

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Iirc they had a rugops model like 1 or 2 years ago

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Diablo, I don't know. Maybe they could give it an ability to twist its head a bit and gore with its frill horns from the side, making it the only ceratopsian that can defend its flank.

thorny lynx Mar 22, 2019, 11:54 PM

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I wanna see dinosaurs fall over on their sides.

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Only Rugops pic

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Yeah I want a collision penalty, especially for high-speed animals.

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That gimmick for Diablo could open up some slots for other ceratopsians, like Chasmosaurus or Pentaceratops.

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:56 PM

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like a quetz flying against a cliff

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Right

umbral prairie Mar 22, 2019, 11:56 PM

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instant death

open sedge Mar 22, 2019, 11:57 PM

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What I want them to add the most right now (aside from Deinosuchus) are different types of plants for herbivores to eat.

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This could open up tons of new niches, especially if certain plants spawn in certain biomes.

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So only some herbivores will compete with each other.

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For example: A bush is added that Maiasaura likes to eat more than any other bush. This bush should spawn on plains and fields because that is the biome that the Maia does best in.

barren zephyr Mar 22, 2019, 11:59 PM

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lilipads as edible dondiExcite