general-feedback-discussion

[oblique sluice]

trike needs a buff, okay

[thorny lynx]

I think a buff from 350 to 500 damage would do nicely.

[unborn quail]

@dim zodiac Buffing rexes stamina would go completely against what it's supposed to be, not to mention throw off the balance that currently exists for it.

[oblique sluice]

bUt I caN'T cHaSe DoWn ThAt gAllI wIth mUh ReX

[versed blaze]

agreed. Rex has low stam pool to be an ambush predator. It's super fast but not for long

[thorny lynx]

I kind of wish the ambush was a bit longer, though. literally 2 seconds of Rex's ambush takes time to get to his top speed because momentum

I think if his ambush was 7 seconds instead of 6, it would be a bit better

[barren zephyr]

@light oak that doesn't fuckin help nerd

[jovial arch]

i mean

ill support rex ambush buff the second it slows down

🤷

not the ambush, the base speed

[misty island]

please no base speed

ambush speed ya

[dim zodiac]

rex is full time troll by other players cause they know we can play with rex ...

[pale prairie]

@hazy sparrow "Footprints: Please make footprints wash away in the rain. (At least from Scent-mode)" re read that
you can't use scent in the rain, how would this change anything?

[misty island]

i would

hes talking about right after rain stops

and you can still smell out footprints created during the rain

its kinda weird

[clear turret]

if it is nighttime and raining, you can see footprints anyways without sniffing

[thorny lynx]

Honestly, I think that is so dumb

why would footprints glow in the dark

[mental sleet]

@indigo sun would not be useful.

Most people attack from the back even when the animal's resting.

in order to prevent getting destroyed by hitboxes.

Not to mention this would not be usable for some animals, like stegosaurus.

[indigo sun]

Yes, good point.

[formal hazel]

That's kind of bogus to write someone else's suggestion when they say they are gonna write it themselves right now

[neat sable]

i got a issue

[jovial arch]

@thorny lynx

Also ,can Sucho's trot be its walk and can sucho have a faster walk? I think it might solve the issue of sucho being too slow when he walks or crouches.

read this

im pretty sure

not 100% sure

but im pretty sure you typoed

[thorny lynx]

faster trot I mean

[jovial arch]

yeah

[thorny lynx]

ty

fixed it

[jovial arch]

👍

[hazy sparrow]

@pale prairie Footprints left during the rain can be scented after the rain stops.

@agile whale You're a liar 😃

[agile whale]

Not entirely. I misunderstood your original message according to your response to duck there. I thought you mean that during the rain the footprints are not "washed away from scent mode" and can still be sniffed. Well that's technically inaccurate and already implemented because you can't smell anything during the rain. Now, if you were meaning it the way you replied to duckitdaly, then I have not the slightest idea

[versed blaze]

Yeah, I don't get that either. Scent just plain doesn't do anything when it's raining.....not even the animation.

[hazy sparrow]

Yes it does Bacon

You can sniff animation in the rain

You can smell footprints laid in the rain as well

😃 Not my fault you don't understand.

[agile whale]

Smelly I'm pretty sure that you can't

and yeah it is partially your fault that we couldn't understand. The way you word things is pretty significant when trying to pass along the meaning of the sentence.

[hazy sparrow]

nope 😃 cya later dumbo 🐘

In theaters March 29th.

[agile whale]

Scuffed the mic a bit but here you go @hazy sparrow https://youtu.be/EOkAf-a2Vp4

[hazy sparrow]

I'm not watching your video 😃

Go pander for views elsewhere.

[next nexus]

I really don't wanna defend the guy because he's being a major dick, but I think he meant you can't smell footprints when it is raining, but once it stops raining; footprints that have yet to time out that were placed during the raining period will appear in scent if the rain were to stop.

So sniffing during rain= nah, sniffing after the rain stops= footprints that have not disappeared yet but were place in the rain period do appear in scent @agile whale

[agile whale]

F.Y.I @hazy sparrow , the video is unlisted so no one can watch it anywhere except through that link. You could quit being dense as I'm trying to help you look less like a fool by suggesting something that's already in, and then when you go on to explain that's not what you meant but proceed to then insult me instead of retyping your suggestion to mean what you actually meant, it makes you look more the fool.

and @next nexus I understand. That's what I thought too, but him proceeding to insult me instead of think oh yeah I should go and edit the original suggestion to better reflect what I meant triggered a nerve.

[misty island]

@hazy sparrow ya you shouldnt insult him, altho i dont understand what is his confusion

[agile whale]

and yes I can confirm now that footprints are not washed away during the rain and are able to be scented after the weather has passed.

[delicate mango]

yeah hasnt it always been like that

lmao

[misty island]

ya it has.......thats why its weird and someone wanted it to change.........

[agile whale]

And fragon I was only confused because he says washed away in the rain at least from scent, but while you are in the rain you can't sniff, which is what I thought he was referring to. I saw through his response to duck that he meant it being washed away so it can't be scented it after the rain has passed, but instead of being like, "Oh yeah that's what I meant" he just proceeded to call me dumb which struck up this whole conversation

and it has I'm pretty sure. It is kind of funky when you consider it

[misty island]

no man...its not

but okay...

[agile whale]

its not, funky? that the scent doesn't get washed away after the rain ends?

By funky I was meaning, weird, or out of place. It is pretty weird and unordinary that the rain does not wash away scent after it leaves.

That's what I was meaning

[misty island]

oh i tought you were refering to smthingelse m8

[hazy sparrow]

Yea m8

[hazy sparrow]

If dilo actually had venom, it would be the only dino that could kill with bleed THROUGH sitting.... not the case though, oh well...

[misty island]

lol thats basically my suggestion for dilos lol

adding special effects for dilo attacks

[shut gale]

@barren zephyr the utah dilo match up is in favor of the dilo now. by a small margin

[barren zephyr]

funsu, utah assrides dilo, if utah gets the first bite its a guaranteed win

[shut gale]

ah? you mean without alt turn?

cause with alt turn enabled a 1 on 1 fight is not that hard to win

[spiral pond]

I still think dilo needs better turn if it is supposed to be a forest hunter

Change my mind

[rigid tartan]

ambush forest hunter 😄

[spiral pond]

Dilo ambush is shit

It’s 1.1

[barren zephyr]

hm it looks fast tho

[rigid tartan]

you're in the trees what u need speed for , be invisible my dude

[shut gale]

if you give everything a good turn radius .... its just aweful.... having numbers starts to mean less. since you can't go for a 2v1 without trading everytime...

imo stuff should get turn radius nerfs

[spiral pond]

I mean better turn not Utah turn

Dilo has worse turn radius then Maia

[rigid tartan]

honestly ive seen dilo's bleed out things bigger than them, i think theyr in a good spot

[shut gale]

nerf the maia then

[spiral pond]

Maia would turn worse then carno then

This is about run turn also

[shut gale]

you don't need to nerf to the carnos point....

[rigid tartan]

carno trades speed for turn, so its fine dilo's are honestly ok i think

[shut gale]

the thing is if you give every dino the turn radius the utah / giga have its aweful for the gameplay..

[barren zephyr]

any way ppl can still ass ride dilo since it has a way bigger hitbox and utah vs dilo is not an even match, utah has agility to its advantage and if it gets the first bite its a guaranteed win for utah even if its way faster and agile, it takes 6 hits for both to kill eachother

[shut gale]

if the utah gets the 1 st bite on you he deserves the kill pickle

[barren zephyr]

utah can jump over the dilo if it starts to alt and get it from behind

[spiral pond]

I’m not saying give dilo Utah turn

I’m saying something in between

[rigid tartan]

but what im saying is what u need this turn for if you're fighting in forests. your supposed to dip in and out of vision

not fight in a field turning

[shut gale]

and so can the dilo...

[barren zephyr]

dilo cant jump...

[spiral pond]

But dilo can’t turn around the trees

[rigid tartan]

i never seem to have trouble weaving through trees?

sure doing a giant arc turn is a pain but why would u lol

[spiral pond]

Cause your forest hunter ?

[rigid tartan]

forest hunter or not, you dont need a better turn circle in a forest. its about running away. them losing sight of u and u coming back in for another chomp. then away again to stack bleed

if they stay in a forest with you theyr dumb

[shut gale]

dilo turn radius seems fine i just tried it...

[barren zephyr]

well dilo should have atleast a good turn its supposed to be a forest hunter relying on the coverage of leafs that make it dark in the forests. he should use it to his fullest advantage and its kind unfair that allo has a better turn

[shut gale]

one of the devs even said the dinos weren't that mobile...

they were kind of cluncky ish...

[barren zephyr]

isle is never realistic

[rigid tartan]

either way ive seen good dilo's RIP alot of bigger dinos i think theyr great

[shut gale]

yeah the dilo is pretty good

[spiral pond]

It is ok

[shut gale]

it just gets run down by maias xD

[rigid tartan]

just know your home lol

[hazy sparrow]

Dilo gets one shot by dibble 😭

[barren zephyr]

i just think they should have a turn buff

[spiral pond]

As does Utah

[barren zephyr]

for combat and escaping foes

[shut gale]

last i heard they will be nerfing some dinos turn radius

[hazy sparrow]

and sub rex 😭

[shut gale]

next patch

[barren zephyr]

where

[rigid tartan]

honestly just give them like a 2second ink spray that clouds enemy vision for like 2 seconds, boom easy dipping out and in. you're still fragile AF and cant turn amazingly but keep your forest hunter prowess

[barren zephyr]

was that mentioned?

[shut gale]

some posted a SS of dinosauriac saying that

[hazy sparrow]

ink spray 🦑

[rigid tartan]

XD

i dun been inked

[hazy sparrow]

Well, the morse code decoded is already a reference to jurassic park, so maybe it is the same dilo with spitting venoms 😃

[rigid tartan]

hopefully, honestly thjink they would benefit better from some sort of distraction defense

than acid.

[shut gale]

think bliding your opponent is one of the things they want to make iirc

they didn't say from what but 🤷

[barren zephyr]

cant seem to find dinosauric saying that in the next patch

[rigid tartan]

how cool would it be if dilo could throw its 1234 calls. like throw them 50m away from itself

so u think its somewhere its not

[barren zephyr]

hm intresting

[shut gale]

pretty sure this will buff packs

[barren zephyr]

this might include a dilo turn buff since it is always mentioned in suggestions

[shut gale]

and herds

[barren zephyr]

@trail mulch Updates happen pretty frequently, they just take time as the dev team is small.

[noble dirge]

I don't think Rex and Giga is able to facetank Trike anymore is it?

[barren zephyr]

Giga no...but Rex can@noble dirge

[compact matrix]

Pretty sure isle development team has more active people than tf2

[noble dirge]

I don't think Rex can anymore either, my friend tested it.

[compact matrix]

Depends if you get bone break first or second bite

[spiral pond]

But giga can bite trike 3 times and it’s over

So yes it can facetank trike

Also trike is not anywhere near good against apexes

[barren zephyr]

@spiral pond ive tested it on a death match...giga cant facetank a trike and live to tell the tale

[compact matrix]

Giga does not beat trike in a facetank but does win if you get away after a clean bite

Usually trike will trade a stomp for giga bite

[spiral pond]

It can in a sense

[compact matrix]

The giga has to let it bleed

[spiral pond]

Yep

There’s no escape from apexes as trike

[compact matrix]

Letting it bleed is not a facetank

[spiral pond]

It is

[compact matrix]

But still highly giga favored

[spiral pond]

In a way

[barren zephyr]

and Giga is a bleeder so it makes no sense for him to facetank other apex dinos

[noble dirge]

Facetank literally means you go tanking the hits with your face while you go to town on them, which what both Giga and Rex could have done to Trike in the last patch change.

[compact matrix]

It’s not in a way, facetank means you literally just stand up and keep attacking each other

[spiral pond]

If giga can facetank enough so it can bleed trike to death, then yes i think it is a bit of facetanking

[compact matrix]

If giga dies first it doesn’t matter

The trike can just sit

[noble dirge]

If both are in each other's face the Giga will die and the Trike can just sit and heal.

[spiral pond]

It can’t

Giga can just assride it and bite it 3 times and let it there

Since it’s not like trike can run it down

[compact matrix]

That’s not a facetank

That’s assriding

[spiral pond]

Fine let’s not call it facetank

[noble dirge]

Assriding isn't facetanking dewd.

Facetanking means face relatedness.

[spiral pond]

It isn’t but giga can survive for 3 bites on trike

You can facetank it enough that it will die from bleed no matter what, only if you spare it

[noble dirge]

Giga dies from raw damage in a facetank.

Bleeding out doesn't matter if the Giga isn't alive to keep the Trike from sitting.

[spiral pond]

But again you keep repeating the same thing, giga can facetank trike enough for giga to kill it with the blues bleed

[noble dirge]

You really don't know the meaning of the word facetank

[spiral pond]

then let’s not call it facetanking and move on please

[noble dirge]

It USED to be able to just stand there, keep biting and let the Trike swat at its face until it died. That's not the issue anymore.

Rexes can't do it either.

[spiral pond]

They can

[noble dirge]

Not anymore, my point being, I don't think Trike isn't as much as an easy meal as it USED to be.

[spiral pond]

It is more of an easy meal then it ever used to be

[noble dirge]

But you have a different meaning of facetank

[spiral pond]

Fuck facetanking, we’re talking about in general

Apexes with 2 brain cells can kill trike no matter what trike does

That is the real problem

[noble dirge]

Not really, Trikes can do it now. Not by a large margin but they can kill a lone Rex.

[spiral pond]

How

Tell me

If Rex gets on trouble, it can run away

While you are there with broken leg

[noble dirge]

Like a guy said, depends if you get bonebreak on 1st or 2nd bites.

[spiral pond]

It really doesn’t matter

Since you can facetank trike log enough to get its leg broken

[noble dirge]

Aight buddy I guess the meaning of facetank isn't getting through to you.

[spiral pond]

Ok

Let me say this differently

Since you can bite trike long enough to get its leg broken

[rigid tartan]

depends if the trike is smart, if i ever see another apex as trike i instantly back myself up against a wall so if they come in they have to trade a hit

but yeah trikes are not as easy as they used to be, i main trikes and honestly if a rex or giga is solo they dont even try it

they should honestly give trike its bone break back. so on the odd chance you actually break another apex's leg, you can get away while they heal

[spiral pond]

What if there is no wall ? 🤔

[rigid tartan]

then you are dumb for being in an open field as a very slow tank? 🤔

know your environment. play to your strengths lol

[spiral pond]

Somebody gets it that apexes can just run away from trike with no punishment

[rigid tartan]

yeah if they choose to. but the point is they cant just go oh a trike easy meaol

its genuinely dangerous for them

i think trikes should take less damage from the front, near head and horns. maybe be a little armored. and they should be able to walk backwards

would make them alot more viable. but as they are theyr very playable

[spiral pond]

Trike will honestly be kinda op when locational dmg is in

From front at least

[rigid tartan]

hopefully. theyr not something you're supposed to WANT to fight with lol

[jolly willow]

trike will absolutely be op when local damage is in

[rigid tartan]

good. isnt like they can chase any1 down. they only fight when someone else is dumb enough to fight ehm

them*

[barren zephyr]

@barren zephyr Scroll up through #announcements
Dev streams DO happen on occasion.
I think they said recently, however, that they're working sortof on a roadmap of sorts? Otherwise #519931024956850187 is the closest we have to a look into their heads.

@barren zephyr since i play this game i dont see to many details on what they re doing so we are left blind with just rumours....thats why i suggested that

Yeah, s'why a roadmap is a common COMMON suggestion.. I feel like I saw them mention they're working on getting one put together, but i don't remember, kindof out of the loop.

@spiral pond Don‘t waste too much of your time with people that scream facetanking and try to tell you what you get and what you don‘t get. Trike is an easy meal, only stupid Apexes die to them.

[spiral pond]

Thank you Dash

[undone barn]

Someone mentioned day/night cycle. I think it would be a decent idea if the ratio of day to night was something like 3:2 - just consider it the summer solstice. Along the Canada-US border for example you get up to 16 hours of daylight and 8 hours of night in the summer.

[spiral pond]

No

Fuck day

Also you said in summer, the isle is pretty much spring if you were to ask me

[hazy sparrow]

Darker nights dilo is useless except for a 10 minute window at night

[undone barn]

I agree with darker nights/a fog to prevent gamma abuse. But even in spring the day is longer, that's why I didn't suggest a 2:1 ratio

[hazy sparrow]

1.333 : 1 would be the ideal ratio of night to day 😉

day to night rather

[rigid tartan]

@undone barn kill fill rules kinda take away from people who just enjoy brawling other people for giggles

best to keep it vanila.

@sleek silo i think once they add the aquatic dino's like the croc you wont see many people camping water

[undone barn]

people who just enjoy brawling other people for giggles

isn't that what deathmatch/sandbox is for? It can also be an option to turn on/off for each server

[nocturne skiff]

@noble dirge perhaps make it so if you dont sit down before you hit 4th screen you die that way you cant wait till the last second and you on 1 hp and still live with 3 bleed

[rigid tartan]

pretty sure if you're resting, bleed cannot take you below 10% hp

also oreo, yes its death match. like real life. lol the devs seem to love realism and KOS is a very real thing with animals.

if you dont like the idea of being attacked at any time, dont play officials 😛

[undone barn]

I don't play officials, thats why my suggestion was geared towards and mentioned the community servers

[rigid tartan]

ah ok my bad my man

[undone barn]

i mean on a body down server you run into situations when you don't know a body is under a shrub, behind a log and you attack first without realizing (and break a rule). If gore could glow when you're within like 20 feet of it, it would help with that.

[rigid tartan]

yeah but in that scenario cant you just say you didnt see it, or you were engaging the dino over said food?

[misty island]

na i think

you need to 3 call them

[rigid tartan]

wow thats RP to the max lol

[misty island]

a few times before you can fight them

[undone barn]

yeah you can but it still sucks for whoever gets bit/killed on the (accidental) rule break. And in my experience when you battle over the gore, you 3 call and give them a few seconds to fight or flee

usually they 3 call back or run away

[misty island]

but

what if i want to ambush someone

how does that work tho

[rigid tartan]

yeah is ambush even a thing

lol

how do rex's ever eat on communty servers?

[undone barn]

down to the server i suppose. I would imagine you can open with ambush but not kill them.

[misty island]

.............

open with ambush

[undone barn]

rexes just bully everyone off their kills. i mean they were known for being scavengers

[misty island]

that does not make sense at all man...

thats true

[undone barn]

if an allo has a kill a rex just walks up and 3 calls, then the allo runs away

[rigid tartan]

probably known for being scavangers cos no one wanted to F with them and just left their food lol why work if someone hand you it

[misty island]

and then trikes got overpopulate

and rex got fucked

[civic sky]

That’s ridiculous, I’m sorry. I love realism servers too but damn that almost makes ambushing useless. Especially fir something like rex who needs it.

[rigid tartan]

yeah

[undone barn]

but the rex doesnt need to ambush it when he bullies something off their kill. and if there are no bodies around the rex is free to ambush/kos for his meal

[rigid tartan]

but rex can only eat big game..

not ribs or w.e

just hope you're lucky enough to find a fresh kill? lol

[misty island]

but no guy made a point

it depends on the server

[civic sky]

But what if there’s no kills to bully someone off of? And needs to catch say a trike or para off guard.

[misty island]

and i think its a good thing

[undone barn]

lol really getting into so much detail here but if you cant eat the ribs then they don't count towards the rule.

[misty island]

that makes being rex way less interesting

and hence less fucking rex

[undone barn]

go on nycta 3 it has all of these realism rules and 50/200 people are apexes

[rigid tartan]

meh just seems like a dis-service to the ambush function.

[civic sky]

It’s a disservice to hunting

[rigid tartan]

ofcourse they are. because they spend 8hours growing then dont need to worry about dieing ever. they just walk away

no threat lol

[undone barn]

anyway its just an option lol, plenty of people play these realism servers and it's not about that it's just about the feature as an option. IMO if a lion comes across a hyena eating a carcass, he's going to bully the hyena off before deciding to KOS the entire pack of hyenas for fun. Many people enjoy the game for the realism part

if gore glowed when you were really close it would help

[rigid tartan]

i doubt 1lion could scare off a pack of hyenas

😛

[undone barn]

😛

[misty island]

+1

the lion would probly be scared

and beside thats just because lions are cays

cats

and cats are playful

[barren zephyr]

not if you hit them and take their food

[rigid tartan]

tbh i think bleed is a bit gimmicky

[barren zephyr]

what

what do you mean gimmicky

[undone barn]

bad example, point is it's easier to go for the meal than try to kill and if you want to say the private servers get ridiculous with those rules i completely agree - most of them are too much, i just think it's equally ridiculous to KOS an entire pack like a deathmatch in survival mode and there is some good compromise in between.

[rigid tartan]

like theres not really a counter to it. if someones bleeding u and theyr smart and know how to work around it, (not letting u sit, keep distance and just keep it on when it runs out) you literally just have to sit there and die

wait not sit there. stand there lol

[barren zephyr]

thats how bleeders play

[rigid tartan]

i know but then wheres the insentive to play anything but a bleeder.

is what im saying

[barren zephyr]

most bleeders wont kill you in the first rush unless your alot smaller

rex is insane if it gets on you

dilo loses to utah 9times out of ten

[rigid tartan]

yeah but it cant out pace anything. specially if its bleeding

[barren zephyr]

if rex lands an ambush it can get a broken leg on opponent

[rigid tartan]

if u fight a rex smart as a giga, u win 100% of the time

[barren zephyr]

rex has insane bleed heal and resistance

[rigid tartan]

if it sits.

which it cant do in a fight

[barren zephyr]

rex has better turn iirc

giga wont kill it in 3 bites

from bleed

so rex lands 2 hits

[rigid tartan]

which you cant use because giga just out pace you and only come in to restor bleed lol

[barren zephyr]

rex has 50% bb chance

[rigid tartan]

guess so. dont often see giga get broken legs tho

[barren zephyr]

idk then

cause you also have things like dilo

balanced around bleed

[misty island]

i got bb the first bit in my giga

[barren zephyr]

yet one of the weakest carnivores

[misty island]

i was so upset

[rigid tartan]

ive seen dilo's kill wounded rex's

[undone barn]

dilo isnt balanced right now but im sure that will change in future

[rigid tartan]

by keeping the bleed on them

[barren zephyr]

then the rexes are stupid

when it can literally

sit and wait to lo

logout

[rigid tartan]

cant sit.

being bitten

[barren zephyr]

before the dilo can kill it

[rigid tartan]

lol

[barren zephyr]

its a dilo bite

its damage is basically nill to a rex

a rex can quite literally

[rigid tartan]

the bleed keeps going x]

[barren zephyr]

sit and wait to log odd

bleed caps at 100

[rigid tartan]

logging out.. is so bm tho

such a crybaby move

[barren zephyr]

rex can survive 100 bleed at 3rd stage

[rigid tartan]

lol

[hazy sparrow]

F it 😉

[barren zephyr]

ive seen utahs solo kill rexes

[rigid tartan]

impossible.

lol

they do like 0.9 bleed to it, it heals staning up xD

was it afk

[barren zephyr]

nope

usually its just bad rexes

[undone barn]

i saw 4 carnos kill a shant, it took them 10 mins but they did it lol

[rigid tartan]

i honestly cannot see how a fully healthy rex die to utahs

[barren zephyr]

bleed isnt op or gimmiky at all

besides

a rex needs 1 good hit to kill a dilo or utah

[rigid tartan]

meh bleed just has no counter atm thus the gimmick lol

[barren zephyr]

and rex bite cone is large

it does have counter

[rigid tartan]

whats that

[barren zephyr]

fucking smacking what is hitting you

[rigid tartan]

haha

[misty island]

a rex needs one hit to kill a dilo theres no good hit

[barren zephyr]

yea

[rigid tartan]

im more on about giga when its a rex.

[misty island]

you touch him hes dead

[barren zephyr]

if a giga gets a broke leg

the giga loses

[misty island]

and here were are

playing dinos in world of tanks

[rigid tartan]

haha

[misty island]

all comes down to RNG

[barren zephyr]

im not saying its good

im just saying its their

[rigid tartan]

uhuh

[misty island]

it was a joke bro

why so serious

[blazing charm]

That family tree sounds really pointless to be honest.

[jolly willow]

yea just check ur nest and remember who you were nested in by lol

[south flower]

Wouldn’t the nest (once it’s updated) already include the names of the mother and father?

[jolly willow]

yea

patriarch isnt working rn

doesnt show up

[south flower]

Yeah

[jolly willow]

when thats fixed then u can know ur daddio

[south flower]

But having a whole family tree is kinda pointless because once you die and rejoin, the tree will just say you’re alive again or count as a different person

[jolly willow]

p much

[barren zephyr]

well i got a rought sketch but im gonna post it

[rigid tartan]

np

[sleek silo]

I do still believe that people will still run into lakes if a big dino starts running towards them, because even if your meat isn't completely lost the one attacking you will not get the food. That will still be enough motivation to do it (as a F*ck u to the big dinosaur).

[rigid tartan]

its against rules to run into a lake if you are under attack anyway

specially if you're bleedin

[hazy sparrow]

Imagine a pack of utahs trying to drag a sucho out of the water though 😦 they would be so tuckered out by the end

[sleek silo]

I think that it's dumb that the official server needs to have rules, I mean isn't the game supposed to be played as it is?

[rigid tartan]

wouldn't happen lol sucho has no need to leave xD specially when fish are added

[hazy sparrow]

Well otherwise it's just 50 rexes vs 50 rexes 😃

[rigid tartan]

^

[hazy sparrow]

(overexaggerating but still)

[rigid tartan]

the point is made my dude

[sleek silo]

They should implement an actual group limit then

[rigid tartan]

lol

they do.

apex's are 5 max to a pack

on officla

official*

[hazy sparrow]

Yea but like a hardcoded one, not just a "rule"

[umbral prairie]

5 is still too much tbh

[rigid tartan]

honestly i think duo apex is enough. 5 is just over kil lol

[hazy sparrow]

Where if you go over size, it says "You cannot invite anymore people to your group"

[sleek silo]

^

[hazy sparrow]

Herbivores would need to be an exception tho

[rigid tartan]

theyr fixing that though with affinity system

[hazy sparrow]

each dino would need its own pack limit, and hey, maybe it can be toggled on /off by the server owner

😃 It's up in the air

[rigid tartan]

honestly the affinity system seems the best way to fix it. they can be in a group of 5 sure. but if they hang in close proximity too long they start receiving debuffs. so they have to split up most of the time

keeps u chilling with your boys but not a 5man gank rush

[hazy sparrow]

yea having a huge pack just for communication would be ok, but being so close the game becomes far too easy for apexes

[broken swift]

need alt-turn when ur leg is broken

[thorny lynx]

nnnnnno

[broken swift]

ofcourse a rex fanboi dont.

then you cant assride gigas when you break their legs.

[thorny lynx]

A lot of people don't. Go ahead and put that suggestion in #general-feedback and see what happens.

[broken swift]

meh this game is meh in general now.

make dilo fun and playable again.

the suggestionbord is just controlled by rex fanbois. they rule the shit here. if it doesnt benefit rex, then its a no no

board*

all you see are utahs sitting on rocks or rexes.

[torpid wedge]

keep crying it’ll get you somewhere

[broken swift]

lol well. thats what the rex fanbois do when someone suggest something that would balance the game for the better.

crying? well its shame to see this game ruined by fanbois.

[spiral pond]

wait what ?

drop this shit

you are attacking everyone here now

also no alt turning with broken leg is broken

[jolly willow]

If you can alt turn with a broken leg

What sense does that make and why does the bone break even exist other than slowing down the dino

Dilo is fine in viability rn but he really needs the turn buff.

Really goddamn bad

[spiral pond]

maybe a better ambush

something between 1.2 and 1.15

[jolly willow]

He still has issues with utah

[spiral pond]

thats why give him a better ambush and turn while running

[jolly willow]

@pseudo falcon para is supposed to be the shant of survival

Para needs its own buff/help rn though

The kick should have a lingering hitbox, it needs a damage buff, maybe more speed

[pseudo falcon]

Shant ~ !

[jolly willow]

For real tho shants never getting added

no.

no shant lmfao

[clever leaf]

why we talking about this here

[pseudo falcon]

Shaaant ~

[jolly willow]

Because they suggested it for real now

This is suggestions discussion

Is it not

[pseudo falcon]

SHANTUNGOFUCKYOURSELF

And gimi shant please 😉

[blazing charm]

Shant would need a complete rework, in it's current state it's simply too broken to be added.

I tried tackling Shant before, got mixed reactions over it.

[umbral prairie]

@green zinc There will be a combat rework eventually with locational damage and dino collision (so maybe ramming will be a thing?) I'm not sure if they will add something like finisher moves or attacks involving a more complicated animation in general, because I can imagine it being a lot of work to do these for every carnivore (and some herbivores), especially because they would have to make multiple animations for the same thing because prey items of for example a rex vary in size

[pseudo falcon]

@blazing charm Shant in its current state isn't even that bad in comparison to the current roster of apexes

[umbral prairie]

so snapping a neck would have to be animated multiple times depending on where the neck of the prey is and how thick it is so it doesn't look stupid

[pseudo falcon]

If a rex breaks a shant's leg its gg for the shant most of the time

[green zinc]

True, after I sent the message I was thinking about if there was an animation, it would give an opportunity for another Dino to come up and kill the one who did the finisher. (It would suck to be in a pack fight) And the size thing is definitely understandable.

[pseudo falcon]

Plus a giga can bleed a shant pretty easily in a group of 2

[blazing charm]

Shant also has an old model and no life cycle.

[pseudo falcon]

Given that it would have a life cycle it wouldn't be that bad

If it took 6 hours to grow like other apexes there wouldn't be that big of an issue

Especially with its current stamina

[blazing charm]

It would have to have an incredibly long long one, considering how powerful it would be as an adult.

[pseudo falcon]

6.8hrs would be plenty

Given as its growing it'd be a slow Maia

[blazing charm]

What about when it is fully grown, where do you feel it should stand?

[umbral prairie]

I've also thought about things like a rex grabbing like a para neck and throwing it on the ground (would of course have to be hard to do this since it would be unbalanced if a rex could just basically one-shot everything) but those animations would take a long time to make, plus it would probably be hard to code that in without hitbox bugs and the dinos not being aligned correctly etc

[valid flower]

Maybe the animation can happen once the para is dead

[pseudo falcon]

It should be close to how is, probably be forced to regain stam by sitting

[valid flower]

Like when the para dies, Rex grabs it’s neck and slams it to the ground

[pseudo falcon]

And have a shit turn radius

Than I could see them being fine

[valid flower]

I’m a shant on survival

[pseudo falcon]

What server

[valid flower]

Teutonic

[pseudo falcon]

Are you a female

[valid flower]

EU server

[pseudo falcon]

Oof

[blazing charm]

Not Official

[valid flower]

I’m assuming ur american

[pseudo falcon]

Canadian

[valid flower]

No not an official server

it’s a popular EU server tho

[umbral prairie]

I remember when there were shant injections and there were giant shant herds mass nesting

[valid flower]

Anyways, it’s hard to deal with rexes as shant cause when the rex rides ur ass u can’t do anything but accept ur death

[umbral prairie]

and every herbi herd had at least 2 shants guarding them

[pseudo falcon]

@blazing charm Nah but shant should have a turn radius reminiscent of Maias, with 175 bite force at its size, stamina regen upon rest as an adult, and the stomp should only be usuable 3 times or so.

[blazing charm]

And what about the fact that when you reach adult, you could just trample anything in your path that isn't a hyper?

[pseudo falcon]

Why should it be able to trample anything bigger than an allo?

Besides things that size should all be fast enough to escape

And outstam you preferably

Once pounce gets introduced you'd also see Utahs easily getting damage in

[valid flower]

We need any new apex herby

[pseudo falcon]

Seeing as this is all post recode banter

[valid flower]

Herbivore *

[umbral prairie]

I mean once dino collision is in shants (and other things) could maybe ram things? (basically trample damage but called ramming damage or sth and without running through each other)

[blazing charm]

anything bigger than an Allo.

I feel like you are under estimating just how massive Shant is.

[pseudo falcon]

I doubt running into a Utah is going to stop you from moving

[umbral prairie]

yeah but it's going to throw the utah away

[blazing charm]

Let's say it runs directly into a Rex, or a Giga at full speed, what do you think is going to happen?

[umbral prairie]

and not let it phase through your legs

[pseudo falcon]

The rex should be able to outstam / run it preferably

Shant should be a troter most of its life

Using sprint as a offensive tool

[blazing charm]

Okay, then what does it do if it runs out of stamina?

I'm going somewhere with this, so stay with me here.

[unborn quail]

[barren zephyr]

so like

im not sure its ever been suggested but

a dilo buff would be nice

[blazing charm]

It literally just got one.

[jovial arch]

what a novel idea

[barren zephyr]

still usless

it got a buff and a nerf

yet

even with no nerf it would still lose to utah

and everything else

[unborn quail]

You do realize you have been saying this

[jovial arch]

im still confused about this

[unborn quail]

constantly

Non stop

[barren zephyr]

no

[jovial arch]

i've had no problem smacking utahs on dilo

[barren zephyr]

i havent

the problem is

utah is faster and has better turn

[jovial arch]

yes

but dilo has this thing called alt turn

[unborn quail]

Dilo out damages and out bleeds it too^

[jovial arch]

i mean

[barren zephyr]

no it doesnt

[jovial arch]

maybe the one thing i would chage

[barren zephyr]

utah outdamages it

[jovial arch]

is dilo's bleed stats

[blazing charm]

@barren zephyr I looked up your name and "buff" and these search results say otherwise.

[jovial arch]

dilo could use some better bleed res

and better healing

beyond that

[barren zephyr]

literally all i want is

turn buff

[jovial arch]

ok

turn buff

sure

[barren zephyr]

and possibly ambush buff but i could live without that

[unborn quail]

Ambush is faster than Allos already, dont see why it would need to be faster

[jovial arch]

bruh

[barren zephyr]

cause its a 1.1 ambush on an ambush forest hunter

[jovial arch]

there are a lot of reasons beyond just "utah beats dilo" which isn't really true anyway

for dilo turn buff

and plus

[barren zephyr]

yea

that 2

wait

[jovial arch]

with dilo ambush

[barren zephyr]

theirs motion blur?

[unborn quail]

Its more pachy then anything

[barren zephyr]

oh yea

[unborn quail]

Thats why it needs a turn buff

[jovial arch]

imo it would be a lot nicer for its steps to be muffled/silent

[barren zephyr]

pachy outruns and outurns dilo

thats the other problem

[jovial arch]

while in ambush, quiet

cause rn

people hear me and it's kinda ridiculous

[barren zephyr]

and i think the game should be perma thenaw night but thats just me

that would be fair and balanced

see

nowim conflicted

i like people arguing for my point but

this dudes named IM PICKLE RICK!!!!!!!1!

but yea

give ti better turn

for something that small and agile it turns like a truk

[hot heath]

Yes there's motion blur at higher graphics

[barren zephyr]

ah

[hot heath]

I think it needs to be a seperate option

If I could turn it off I;d be able to run epic graphics with much less issues

A lot of other games that have it give the option to disable it

[barren zephyr]

yea

i know that

[hoary ocean]

@thorny lynx Where did you get the information that the Sub Giga is a Carcharo Model? Also regarding the dent in the back, Dondi has tried fixing it but there was no way, so he believed most people wouldn't care mcuh about it

[thorny lynx]

Juvie giga has carc model.

[hoary ocean]

Well that's why I'm asking where'd you get that info from

[thorny lynx]

Juvie giga is that but bigger eyes.

That's carch.

[hoary ocean]

Hmm. Never realised that. Does the dent bother you that much? Or is it the fact that they are using a different model for the Sub?

[thorny lynx]

Nono, the sub and adult models are relatively similar.

The juvie is the problem. It doesn't look like a juvenile dinosaur.

The rex line has 3 unique models. The giga line doesn't.

[hoary ocean]

Ahh. I see. That's fair.

[thorny lynx]

Sub giga is adult giga with a smaller crest and beard.

[leaden night]

Sub Giga is altered old Giga

[thorny lynx]

And juvie giga is an adult carcharodontosaurus sized down with bigger eyes.

[clear turret]

A new model instead of recycled assets would never be a bad thing

[barren zephyr]

seems legit

[thorny lynx]

Why does it have a dent in its back?

[barren zephyr]

cause acro

[hoary ocean]

I see the resemblance now

[clear turret]

Also juvie giga's hands have been broken for the longest time

[leaden night]

Carchar's model and Giga's animations not lining up well

[clear turret]

fingers all rotated at a 90 degree angle

[thorny lynx]

Wait a minute

[leaden night]

Luckily for juv Giga

[thorny lynx]

Is the old giga model just carch?

[leaden night]

It's getting its own animations

No

The old Giga model is just Sub Giga

Literally

[thorny lynx]

I really think devs could do better with juvie giga, really.

[hoary ocean]

maybe it's just temporary, I'd hate to think it's just half ass job

[unborn quail]

@flint rune No.

[hoary ocean]

I actually never realised it was a carch model, that opened a new eye

[thorny lynx]

It's been like that for years

[hoary ocean]

I haven't been around since initial release, I got Isle in 2018 march

[unborn quail]

This game is focused on Balance more than anything, Suchomimus is a slow moving brawler animal who pushes anything on the ground that isn't an apex, as intended

Just because it eats fish, does not mean it should be a pushover of a dinosaur

[hallow vigil]

plus iirc dondi said it would get changed a bit when fish are in, but dont take my word for it

[unborn quail]

Most likely in land based ability, but its strength should remain

[flint rune]

@unborn quail no what? The Suco Nerf or the claw attack?

[unborn quail]

Nerf.

[flint rune]

oh, ok

[hallow vigil]

and i think the claw attack is already confirmed to come eventually

[unborn quail]

^

[flint rune]

lol

[waxen elk]

"break it's jaw if it bit anything bigger than a fish"

No.

[flint rune]

I miss word it I suppose. {Suchomimus likely preyed on fish and small to medium-sized dinosaurs and it possibly scavenged and stealed other carnivores kills} the sucker one shots a fully grown dilo

[violet magnet]

why do people keep suggesting the "can't logout while you're taking damage" thing

if you can't bring it down in the literally one whole minute that it's STATIONARY while it's logging and/or if it's so well protected you can't GET to it to finish it off OR if you can't track it down in the one whole minute it's sitting stationary logging WHY ARE YOU HUNTING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE

dryo goes up to a rex that's trying to log, rex can't get up in time to bite at the dryo and can't catch it, rex cannot logout because the dryo keeps harassing it

@fossil barn disabling friendly fire means that your ENTIRE PACK can mob something all at once and not have to worry about hitting each other, even if you're all standing on top of each other biting

you could just...I don't know...coordinate your hunts better? Take turns and don't all rush in at once?

[fossil barn]

True

Yeah your right if you couldn't bite each other you would basically run in sloppy and just spama attack

With no skill needed

[flint rune]

Agreed

[jovial skiff]

I can just imagine the trolls

trying to log out and wait for a minute as a rex

but dryos keep attacking uy

[flint rune]

Lol

[jovial skiff]

just dryos attacking ur rex trying to make ur rex stay until the trike come

wtf

[flint rune]

That would suck

[pseudo falcon]

So I found out that Galli heals 20hp a tick...

Its god awful

[leaden night]

Juv rex heals 2 bleed a tick

Smh

[thorny lynx]

Juv rex needs a heal buff... 20 minutes to heal 10 bleed smh

[torpid wedge]

@mighty vault what turning bug?

[glad bear]

@gleaming robin that's on your end dude

[mighty vault]

@torpid wedge its the weird shit that happens where your actual orientation differs from your client side orientation, so you think you are facing one way, and you arent, and when you try and turn it flashes bad. you can usually fix it by alt turning, but with a broken leg you cant so you are screwed.

[violet magnet]

@flint rune the Message Of The Day box that pops up when you join a server has a character limit, and some servers have so many rules that they won't all fit in the MOTD

so they link the Discord server which has the full rules in the MOTD

@torpid wedge the "turning bug" is helicoptering, where you're spinning in place and the screen is stuttering but none of your hits are landing

[flint rune]

Ah,I see, but the question was "will we need rules when the infinity system comes out?"

[violet magnet]

we will still need rules because there is no shortage of people who'll try to subvert game mechanics to ruin the experience for everybody else

say affinity makes it so you can only pack with a certain number of other dinos of your species, like...3 rexes, and if a utah hangs around rexes it starts to get nervous/lowered affinity

so instead of a megapack of 6 rexes there could be 2 groups of 3 and the utah could scout ahead and see where prey for the rexes is, out of range of the lowered affinity so it doesn't take the hit from being around rexes

this group could all be in a VC so they'd still be able to talk to each other

[flint rune]

Ah, ok. DONDIE this person pointed out a potential problem with the infinity system!!

And thank you for answering my question ^^

[shut gale]

@violet magnet groups of 3 would probably suffer from being near each other

[violet magnet]

I'm assuming there's going to be some kind of bubble where if you're inside of it your affinity will take a hit, and if they manage to stay just outside of the other group's bubble they'd be fine...?

[shut gale]

yeah

[violet magnet]

idk just one 3 rex group with a utah or carno scout would be bad enough

[shut gale]

hmm there's only so much they can do about that....

[minor basalt]

@violet magnet people do that with rules

[edgy furnace]

@gleaming robin get better internet devs can’t do anything about it

[torpid wedge]

is nobody interested in a schedule for official server restarts

the servers get really laggy

[clever leaf]

actually getting the game forward > adding more dinosaurs that slow down development

besides, spino is the only one out of those you specified that could actually make sense to go in

well... idk about theri

[wintry cipher]

@finite perch the devs added a (forgive art jargon) "high pass" on Dinos while they go from full to empty hunger. You literally look thinner in game. So yes, you can look at a dino and say "oh he looks weak, let's focus this one". My pack has hunted numerous targets and picked them out of a group because of this. Try taking a look and you'll see what I mean.

As for the damage taken, that's really cosmetics in the end and will likely change after the recode.

[shut gale]

Theri would be pretty cool if it was an omnivore. Having 2 stomatchs to fill, one that would last lets say 2 hours on meat and the other like 50 mins on bushes. Would make a cool and very different dinosaur imo

[finite perch]

@wintry cipher I legit referenced that function in my suggestion

xD

I know to look for the line in the thigh, but i think its a bit too subtle

[wintry cipher]

Ah. It read as if you didn't know about that due to the sentence structure.

[hazy sparrow]

@knotty wadi 🇸 🇹 🇦 🇲 🇮 🇳 🇦 ❓ what is that even supposed to mean? Dryo has better stamina regen than utah so it's clearly an even match? Is that what you're saying?

[knotty wadi]

Yes

[viral creek]

Dryo jukes utah until oblivion. Dryo is fine. Done

[rigid tartan]

^ yeah dryo just needs tunnels for whack-a-mole hyper potential

[rigid tartan]

@barren zephyr if you give someone a full 60seconds of standing still during a fight you deserve to lose them lol

[hazy sparrow]

Logout without waiting the minute already leaves you in the game for 5 minutes

Some people don't have 5 minutes to wait out a logout timer either

[shut gale]

@rigid tartan pretty cool idea

[rigid tartan]

@shut gale lol yeah i know they added collision to stop people hiding in the rocks but i think after you get past a certain weight you couldn't even hide in them anyway so remove the collision

[shut gale]

mhm pretty cool solution gj 😄

[barren zephyr]

@rigid tartan you think that 60 secs is enough to avoid combat log?

[rigid tartan]

huh? no i just mean you can easily tell if someone is combat logging

so just attack

[barren zephyr]

lets say i have a pack of raptors and we are attacking a Rex...that rex can wait 60 seconds being attacked without dying and then combat logs like a cunt

[violet magnet]

if u can't kill it in 60 seconds when it's standing stationary why tf u hunting it in the first place

[rigid tartan]

raptors cant kill a rex, stop delluding yourself lol

[barren zephyr]

cant kill a rex?

[rigid tartan]

a full 100% healthy rex?

yes.

[barren zephyr]

you sure? xD

[rigid tartan]

unles hes being operated by a literal 5yearold. you have no chance. and yes i am sure

raptors have tried it. and faild on many occasions with me

[barren zephyr]

then you must spend more time into this game and then you can talk to me...ive killed plenty of full adult rex with a pack of raptors, yes we lose some but yes we killed Rex...and if you say that its impossible to kill it, man, you must be new

[violet magnet]

with or without alt turn

[barren zephyr]

with alt turn ofcourse cause all rex players use it@violet magnet

[violet magnet]

gee. All rex players utilize a feature of the game?

[rigid tartan]

sorry, ive played a fair amount. raptors just arent up to the task and if you ever managed it you obviously fought a really REALLY bad rex

[violet magnet]

wow man

[rigid tartan]

i take it you mean on official?

[barren zephyr]

@violet magnet you disagree? common...how long do you play this and do you fight rex players? xD

[violet magnet]

1617 hours logged

[barren zephyr]

so i presume that you fought Rex players before with all those hours invested

and you saying to me

that T Rex players dont alt turn? xD

[violet magnet]

fought rexes on utah but i must've fought all the rex players who actually knew wtf they were doing because any pack i've been in has never managed to bring one down

[rigid tartan]

i think he was more just asking if the rex had the possibility of using it.... as that would affect the outcome massively.

if he cant alt turn i can see it happening.

[violet magnet]

rex players definitely use alt turn, where did i imply i thought they didn't?

and i mean if iu've spent 7 hours growing an adult rex i'm FOR SURE going to use alt turn

[barren zephyr]

let me tell you something grievous...if you are a rex facing lets say a 10 man raptor pack and you dont use alt turn then with 1617h ingame you didnt learned anything lol

[rigid tartan]

what are u talking about macho

[violet magnet]

wat

[rigid tartan]

he never said he didnt use it

...

i see now why u think raptor can kill rex

case closed

lol

[violet magnet]

obviously i use alt turn wtf

[rigid tartan]

he was SIMPLY asking macho. if you meant raptors killing a rex on a server where alt turn was enabled.

not tht he doesnt use it.

if no alt turn, i can see it happening after a LONG time... but with alt turn rex wins 99.99% of fights

[violet magnet]

on a server with no alt turn a single committed raptor can bring a rex down

[rigid tartan]

yea

[violet magnet]

but it takes longer than 60 seconds :/

[rigid tartan]

rofl much.

[barren zephyr]

"gee. All rex players utilize a feature of the game?" "wow man"...i presumed that with this you said that T Rex didnt use alt turn to defend themselves from smaller dinos....

[rigid tartan]

honestly. raptors shouldn't be able to hurt a fully healthy rex anyway can u honestly say a raptor would even try attacking a non-wounded rex irl?

so im glad its how it is

[violet magnet]

-sarcasm

[barren zephyr]

@rigid tartan you clearly dont have experience in this game...you saying to me that a rex wins 99.99% against a pack of raptors? i can see that you are a rex fan boy but let me tell you something...killing adult rex with a pack of raptors is pretty common in this game....

[rigid tartan]

im no rex fanboy. i enjoy all the dino's

just realistic

lol

[barren zephyr]

can u honestly say a raptor would even try attacking a non-wounded rex irl
... Jurassic park did it.. twice.. even tho the second time it was half raptor

[rigid tartan]

and did they get anywhere.

[barren zephyr]

[rigid tartan]

like at all

[barren zephyr]

this is a videogame lol

[rigid tartan]

😛

[barren zephyr]

well they attacked it

videogame?

[rigid tartan]

in a movie

[violet magnet]

"muh realism"
"jurassic park was a dinosaur documentary"

[rigid tartan]

haha

[barren zephyr]

oh boy...guess ive triggered the rex fans...you guys are even using jurassic park and irl do tell me that a pack cant defeat a fully grown rex when im just talking about a simple fact of a game were raptors kill adult rex's

oh man

[rigid tartan]

you dont even know when people are trying to help your argument, thats what kills me or when people arent arguing

exactly.

if they attack a BAD rex in the open with 360% degree attack possibility all around it. YES i agree its a very real possibility after a long time, but if its anything but a BAD rex, or he has any sort of WALL to be up against. you lose every time sorry

[violet magnet]

anyone who thinks raptors can't bring down rexes is a rex fanboy

m'kay

[barren zephyr]

the only thing i realised is that you are without any doubt a Rex main player...

[rigid tartan]

you killing me my dude

[barren zephyr]

ok lol

well tbf, irl or in JP, raptor weren't played by humans that have complete disregard for their dino's physical well being and that do not conform to such concepts that are "caution" and "rationnality"and who were trigerred/went berzerk when something (no matter it's size and how able to roadrollerda-stomp the ever living shit out of them it is) even remotely looks at them for more than 3 seconds and try to use an aggressive sound to tell me to back off for their own damn safety

In the isle, they are..

[violet magnet]

tbf the dinosaurs in JP were all hyper-aggressive and didn't seem to care for their own individual safety either

[rigid tartan]

lol agree'd

[violet magnet]

but yeah this is a videogame and we'll always have that sense of "oh well if I die I can just come back later", so it doesn't exactly inspire caution

or self-preservation

[barren zephyr]

making hybrid dinosaurs that you pump full of growth hormon and who have no parental figure
they are hyper aggressive and absolutely lack any self preservation instinct
Ingen Scientists:

[violet magnet]

"where are our fathers "

[rigid tartan]

"why is my mother a human"

[barren zephyr]

how did this conversation went into Jurassic Park?

[rigid tartan]

i guess the argument was so fictional we moved over to movies

AAAAAYEEEEEEE

lets move to isle discussion this is suggestion xD

[violet magnet]

because throwing raptors at a rex is the same scenario as in the finale of the original Jurassic Park movie

[barren zephyr]

people seeing those raptors in the film and having the ability to play a raptor while being angsty edgy manchildren
every other isle player:

[rigid tartan]

haha

[barren zephyr]

ok...no im sure...Rex fanboys...i pulled the trigger. "8year old community playing dinos"...guess im starting to agree with that quote🤦

im out

[rigid tartan]

lets not forget macho that you're the one complaining you cant kill someone and that "combat" logging is making you cry =/

[barren zephyr]

combat logging
Well the model stays in the world if they don't wait long enough

[rigid tartan]

well. he can spell i guess hes not a complete lost cause

[barren zephyr]

so that means you lost track of them and couldn't land the Coup de Grâce for ONE LONG ASS FUCKING MINUTE

[violet magnet]

and again
if you cannot kill it in the sixty seconds it takes for it to logout, while it's standing stationary, not attacking or moving, why tf u huntin' it in the first place

[rigid tartan]

nah he means hes pissed with rex's logging on him because hes so close to "killing" them sloup

lol

[barren zephyr]

Why are you hunting players?

Did he virgin "combat log" or did the chad "legit 1m wait log"?

[rigid tartan]

either way its safe to say he didnt kill him lol

[barren zephyr]

because if it's the second, then why do you even try hunting players?
are ai too hard?

[violet magnet]

ai aren't challenging, hunting players makes me feel alliiiivveee

but only if they can't get awaaayyyy

[rigid tartan]

u just know macho is that one raptor in the group that always runs at rex's "come on boys"

then disappears from the group 2mins later

[spiral pond]

What did I come to ?

[rigid tartan]

theres always one

[violet magnet]

cough #401464048610312195

[spiral pond]

Why is he assuming that we are all Rex fan bois even tho we hate em

[barren zephyr]

killing makes me feel alive
Look, I'm was a Reaper main on overwatch, I main Death Knight and Demon Hunter on WoW, I am a fanboi for Dark Eldar and Night Lords in 40k and even i think that's childishly edgilly edgy

[rigid tartan]

@spiral pond any1 that thinks rex can beat raptors is a rex fanboy according to him

[spiral pond]

I saw that

Weird opinion but whatever

[rigid tartan]

wow dark eldar sloup. thats some real f'ing edge

[barren zephyr]

and I mean this is "Shadow the edgehog, OW THE EDGE edition, featuring Dante from Devil May Cry" kind of edgy

[rigid tartan]

im moving to isle discussion

[barren zephyr]

so yeah

@odd idol

G i t g u d

[violet magnet]

uh oh he calin' the popo

[rigid tartan]

aaaah we've been rumbled

[violet magnet]

S C A T T E R

[barren zephyr]

Look, Macho, you failed to kill someone when he was safelogging, it's not a game issue that'd need a suggestion, it's you who fucked up

[rigid tartan]

yeah i've had people "combat" log on me when we were at the "stare down" phase of the fight. and i wasnt even mad, just laughed it off and was like ah yeah forgot he can do that

and moved on.

[odd idol]

[rigid tartan]

legit thought your avatar was cleavage reisyn. my day is full of disapointments

[odd idol]

That's offtopic of you.

[rigid tartan]

true, but i didnt think it was worth a pm. im in isle discuss now 😇

[misty island]

can we stop asking for apex group limitation??

it should be a soft rule that the game enforce instead of having a hard coded rule that requires people to enforce

instead of out right asking dev to set rules that require more manpoer to enforce, can we make some suggestions that could slove the problem with game mechanics???????????

[violet magnet]

🌈 affinity 🕰

in the meantime the problem with the big apex groups is that literally nothing can challenge them apart from another apex group of the same size (or a hypo), and apexes are hungry bois so that means they need to eat A LOT

so they decimate the server population

[misty island]

its not about how to win against a fight with them lol

[rigid tartan]

yeah just need a soft rule in place

[misty island]

they are apex

they are supposed to be unmatched

we should come up with something that would decrease the number of adult apex

maybe a system

that intruduce experience or something

for apex

you need to hunt a certain amount of players to progress

from juv to sub or from sub to adult

make it riskier to grow an apex

not nerf it or limit it

build a prymaid not a wall....

[violet magnet]

pack limits would decrease the number of adult apex :v

[misty island]

.......

you didnt read anything i just wrote did you??

[rigid tartan]

he did but you dont need to make it harder to be an apex thats already hard if the server is full and the person is a juvie killer lol

[barren zephyr]

supposed to be unmatched
cough Hyperendocrins cough

[rigid tartan]

i think apex growth could be slower if the pop is below 50% or something

just cos nighttime growing is a thing lol

[violet magnet]

if you're a lone rex looking to pack up but come across a full pack of 3, they're probably going to see you as a food source rather than a potential teammate

assuming they follow rules

[barren zephyr]

and assuming they aren't hungry

[misty island]

ya because people are growing it

when no one is on

[rigid tartan]

like i said, slow it down when less people are on. its still possible but not incentivised

increase the risk of being found but you grow normal with high pop

[misty island]

ya thats the kind of suggestion we should be making

not fucking outrage DECCREASE APEX GROUP LIMIT just after you got killed by a pack of 4

[rigid tartan]

yeah lol

[tranquil token]

Here's one for the people. Does anyone here actually kind of miss progression? And when I say progression I mean the original start as a velociraptor and work your way up to apex? Because for me honestly I think the game was more fun and it kind of limited the amount of apexes found on servers to give people some sort of fighting chance.

[spiral pond]

5 apexes are kinda a lot but whatever

[misty island]

Ya I agree 5 is a bit too much too

Forget 5adults 3adults are enough to take down a huge pack of Allo

[violet magnet]

progression: i miss spawning in as an adult dinosaur and actually being able to play the game instead of spawning in as a helpless juvenile, yeah

[misty island]

but then you have people trying to grow someone for 7 hours

[tranquil token]

True but what if they had the grow time that they have now which isn't as long and grueling as it used to be?

[violet magnet]

what, 7 hours to progress up the entire tree to a spino?

we'd see a hell of a lot more of them

[misty island]

There’ could always be obstacles that reset their progress

Or achievements they need to achieve during the progress

Maybe smthing like hunt down a grown trike

And trike can progress to smthing if u killed a Rex or smthing

[tranquil token]

Part of me honestly misses the progression. I think the game was actually more fun back then. And yeah I agree Fragon, that could be a good idea. Perhaps random dino diseases that the adults could get. Illnesses that you have to fight or something... like you get dehydrated faster?

[misty island]

Make it competitive would solve most “too much player on top” problem

Ok I am feeling like to spend some time on this topic

This is a horror/survival/open world game

+multiplayer game

[tranquil token]

I mean that would solve our apex problem.

[violet magnet]

tbh i had more fun on progression

survival is just...a slog

[misty island]

With 100ish pop on each sever on a 50min*50min traveling time map

[violet magnet]

until you hit adult and can actually travel

[tranquil token]

Unless your a carno

[misty island]

Or dilo

[violet magnet]

"obstacles that reset their progress"
i mean...other players trying to kill you

[misty island]

Well that is not enough apparently

[tranquil token]

Eh... dilo idk about. Carno and Galli can cover some insane distance as Juvies

[misty island]

And people had a work around

Camp a spot with three adults then grow people

[rigid tartan]

honestly the problem with apex's will be fixed with affinity i think so asking to fix it atm is a bit redundant let it play out

[misty island]

Ya that’s true

But doesn’t mean we can’t discuss it for fun lol

If we all want to I mean

[tranquil token]

Other than missing progression I'm wondering when we are supposed to get these humans that were announced over two years ago. As well as the other hypos.

[rigid tartan]

oh sure i just hate seeing it in suggestions lol

[misty island]

Ya that’s why I started this whole”stop suggesting it “ thing

[rigid tartan]

@tranquil token honestly every update adds something fun for me to enjoy so i stop wondering what and when i just let them surprise me 😄

[misty island]

Oh

When is the next update coming??

[tranquil token]

Hey Slayer, trust me I get ya.

[misty island]

Anyone knows?

[tranquil token]

I'm just missing progression mostly haha. I liked the challenge back then because just as grievous said survival is just honestly... kinda unenjoyable.

[misty island]

I think you need more ai and events to make survival work tbh

Stripping everything down

[tranquil token]

I think thats why theres talk of floods and wildfires.

[misty island]

There’s just not really much to do or goal to achieve in survival mode

[tranquil token]

At least for the events aspect.

[rigid tartan]

survival works atm tbh its still fun, i rarely play apex's because honestly theyr the most boring. theyr fixing survival but remember its a change for them too and will take time

[misty island]

Ya true that

[rigid tartan]

nothing gets my blood pumping more than fighting carno's as a galli

[misty island]

I hate both of them

[rigid tartan]

haha

[tranquil token]

xD

[misty island]

I was in my pretty dilo

Got chased down by carno like no ones business

[rigid tartan]

dilo just gets shat on in a daily basis unless you hide specifically in forests

[tranquil token]

Hey you could be like me, a violent little pachy most of the time chasing people who are bigger than me.

[misty island]

Butbutbut

DILO ARE PRETTY

[tranquil token]

Dilo is the creeper charlie in the bushes dino

[misty island]

I have a male with forest camouflage and a red tale lol

That reminds me of another thing

What would you guys feel if they gave dilos some special effects

Like

A soft cc in their attacks

[violet magnet]

a wat

[misty island]

Umm

[tranquil token]

Wait for the special Nuro/hypo/Tisso for that

[violet magnet]

"cc" wat

[misty island]

Ummm

Crowd control

[tranquil token]

Like sleep or vision problems

[misty island]

Like stuns slow blind or whatever

[rigid tartan]

i dont think they need cc, but like a 1second-2second blind would be great just to get away auto happens if you get below 30% hp. and thats your only chance to bail. obviously if you get 1shot by a rex it doesnt go off

then again why should dilo be special

[tranquil token]

True but dilo are a little op already. They one shot juvie everything.

Again

[rigid tartan]

it already has its bleed 😃

[tranquil token]

Like I said wait for Tisso, Nuro, or Hypo for your specials.

[violet magnet]

but dilo also gets shat on by adult everything else

[rigid tartan]

mm where u fighting

lol

[violet magnet]

except dryo

[rigid tartan]

i feel like dilo's do really excel in dense forests. like not the heavy tree ones. the bush ones

i think it comes down to staying in your "area"

[tranquil token]

Dilos are best in V3 jungle at the moment.

[rigid tartan]

thats what i mean

[misty island]

Ya they are

[rigid tartan]

theyr really great dip in dip out fighters

[tranquil token]

Basically if you want to survive follow the actual realistic environments your dino likes. Basically every server that is survival and not death match should be some sort of realism if you want to live.

[barren zephyr]

I haven't seen a single AI in the jungle

[misty island]

But T. rex already have cc

[violet magnet]

"got murdered on my dilo in the middle of the night because the night's too bright"
"where were you"
"in a field"

why tf

[misty island]

Dilos wouldn’t be the first lol

[barren zephyr]

hunts in fields
does not use a good camo
hehe, amateurs

[violet magnet]

i've seen ai in the forests tho

almost lost an ava in one

[tranquil token]

I've seen ai in the forests too. Been attacked by ai velos as a juvie utah countless times in the damn jungle.

[misty island]

I hated hunting ai in the jungle like

I CANT FIND IT

But again that maybe just me being bad

[tranquil token]

Heres a tip, don't hug the water.

[barren zephyr]

ik

[rigid tartan]

it would be cool if dilo's could throw their voice. like hold alt and any 1234 call would sound off about 30m away from your position inthe direction you're facting to disorient your prey. you could obviously use the normal call but then can they trust thats actually where you are?

would make dip fighting easier

without being too op

[tranquil token]

I do agree though AI does need to spawn a little more often for single players. The only time I've had a lot of AI spawn was in a group of 5 carnos. Which is kinda sad.

[lilac swallow]

@rigid tartan i know this game isnt reallist but how could this eveb work in real Life?

[tranquil token]

Slayer, I mentioned before that probably will be a Tisso ability. Thats if or when they will be added.

Or Nuro

[misty island]

Idk how I feel about mutated dinos

[rigid tartan]

i dunno how i feel about invisible dino's xD

[misty island]

Maybe I will stop playing if there’s a huge amount of them lol.....

[rigid tartan]

like true invisible? or predator invisible shimmer

[misty island]

I play this game because I like dinosaurs

[tranquil token]

Or camo invisible like the indo.

[rigid tartan]

ye

[misty island]

Please no