#general-feedback-discussion | The Isle Official Discord | Page 438

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:42 PM

#

it's bad game design

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:42 PM

#

some poeple want to bite and run away

#

and wait

#

ooof

#

then go design the isle 2.0

#

maybe ill buy it

#

arm chair dev

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

yeah

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

ok dude i like the allo

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

i don't think i have any clue about how to make a game

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

its actually one of my fav dinos in the whole game...

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

^

#

but rex is just the better option when compared to allo

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

and it doesn't have shit on the rex

lone crypt Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

is nobody listening to what im suggesting at this point

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

yeah

#

sorry about that cooks

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

Rex is the better option than allo

#

But rex is APEX

#

wtf you want

#

apex allo?

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

no

#

in terms of survival

lone crypt Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

aight im putting shit in suggestions, cuz yall bugging me

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

#

its like Why play Draven is vayne beats you early game

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

one dino shouldn't vastly outclass another dino

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

Rex

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

its not a thing but*

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

and giga

#

should outclass

#

everytthing

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

in combat

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

below in therms of foodchain

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

not in survival

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

no

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

yes

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

they should have less foes

#

but not completly outclass all other dinos

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

ofcourse they should you dont fuck with rex as allo or giga

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

else why play anything besides apexes?

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

there's some serious nuance here, sure they should beat more things in combat but rex shouldn't have the same survivability as dilo or utah because that's ridiculous

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

#

Are you listening to your self

#

thats like saying

#

whats the point of playing herbivore

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

#

because you have more survivability

#

well, not with ai the way that it is rn

#

they dont really

#

though yeah actually

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

#

im out im losing my brain cells

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

#

a herd of maias probs has more survivability than anything else

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

#

allo is suppose to be weaker and outclassed by rex and giga

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

#

duh

#

can you counter my argument tho

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

#

Allo hunts differently allo is nto an ambusher

#

rex is

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

#

you never had them tbh.....

#

dondiCG

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

#

allo is an ambusher

#

what

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

#

allo is not

#

an ambusher

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

#

dondiUhh

#

do you play allo?

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

#

he has decent bleed

#

and high stamina

#

u bite and wait

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

#

yes

#

most of my kills on allo are by ambush

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

#

ye but do you bite them do death or play safe and let them bleed out

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

#

it depends

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

#

if you do the first one then might aswell play cerato or rex

#

or sucho even

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

#

no

#

you that's dumb

#

allo has more effective flat damage than cerato

#

and a higher ambush mult

#

and longer duration

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

#

cerato has jaws of life

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

#

if you want to hunt things

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

#

he just bites

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

#

dont pick cerato

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

i killed sub rexes and sub gigas on cerato solo

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

if you want to chase down juvies and subs, you pick cerato

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

dondiYikes

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

yeah

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

What do you want to hunt on allo then

#

rexes?

#

gigas?

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

because that's what cerato is good at

#

no

#

i just want to hunt small tiers on allo

#

and mid tiers

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

Then do it

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

in groups

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

you can do it now

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

yes but rex is better at it

#

and he fight more

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

I wonder why

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

so why pick allo

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

#

To not spend 6hours of growth

#

?

#

faster travel time on the map

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

#

you say that like growing a rex is hard..

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

#

literally the only case is faster travel time

#

but this game has shown time and time again people dont give a shit about growth time

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

#

its not hard

proud cedar Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

#

Hey

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

#

remember prog?

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

#

Dont care about prog

#

its gone

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

#

ok

#

well

proud cedar Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

#

Sorry for interrupting, I'm new here

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

#

and history

#

If u want to change allo

#

change how bleed is done fundamentally

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

people still usually don't care about growth times

#

i dont want to change allo actually

#

i think rex is too fast

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

^

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

rex is fine

#

u can escape it

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

yes

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

its not the allo that is bad

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

you can

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

if you dont see rex

#

then you are dead

#

deserved

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

its the rex that is too good

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

but it's too strong in comparison to allo

#

look

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

Dude

#

listen to your self

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

#

im already seeing it on suggestions

proud cedar Mar 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

FeelsLateMan

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

people are suggesting, "speed allo and para and dibble and sucho up"

#

those speeds will move up

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

instead of fixing the rex dondiLUL

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

then people will ask for dilo and cerato

#

then people will ask for utah and galli

#

then carno

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

^

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

then you know what you'll get?

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

devs are not listening to shitty suggestion

#

without reason behind it

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

the same frickin system scaled up by 1-2 mph

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

buff this buff that

#

giga was clearly busted

#

so they adjusted it

#

rex is fine and giga aswell

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

#

yeah

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

allo only problem is freaking bleed system

proud cedar Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

What about a console port, I'd pay for that even if the quality will be crap I'll still pay

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

doubt, sadly

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

dont expect

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

^

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

console port anytime soon

proud cedar Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

PepeHands

lone crypt Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

get a PC, it's superior

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

maybe after 1.0

#

it's possible

#

but

proud cedar Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

Not enough money

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:52 PM

#

i wouldn't count on it

shut gale Mar 9, 2019, 10:53 PM

#

they said they will only focus on pc for now

proud cedar Mar 9, 2019, 10:53 PM

#

I want to play it so bad but I cant

mystic kestrel Mar 9, 2019, 10:53 PM

#

u can prolly play it

#

on shit pc

#

on low

proud cedar Mar 9, 2019, 10:53 PM

#

I have no PC in the house

#

Only console

#

PepeHands

#

Unless u could play it on the switch

#

lulWut

#

If not a console port then they should maybe work on the fighting mechanic

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:56 PM

#

yup

#

that's probably coming soon

#

"soon"

#

relative word

proud cedar Mar 9, 2019, 10:56 PM

#

Maybe have finishers or raptors jumping on top of larger Dino's or maybe even a fighting stance like in Jurassic park evolution

jovial arch Mar 9, 2019, 10:56 PM

#

maybe next year or so

#

we'll it fully implemented

proud cedar Mar 9, 2019, 10:57 PM

#

Soon

#

Imagine playing as a pterosaur

#

Thatll be so cool

#

I'm very good with coming up with highly unlikely ideas

unborn quail Mar 9, 2019, 11:07 PM

#

Allo really doesn't need a Health increase, nor a growth time increase in that matter, It's in a very great spot as it is within the mid tiers, It's just outshined by Certain sub adult apexes that could use some re-looks.

#

But in all honesties, Allo is fine as is, The only thing it could really use is a minor, and I mean MINOR speed buff, but even that isn't needed

waxen elk Mar 9, 2019, 11:08 PM

#

ye

leaden night Mar 9, 2019, 11:09 PM

#

Accept sub rex as your old and savior Nova

waxen elk Mar 9, 2019, 11:09 PM

#

Subrex needs to sit the fuck down

leaden night Mar 9, 2019, 11:10 PM

#

No

#

GWjojoGachiWoke

waxen elk Mar 9, 2019, 11:10 PM

#

Yes

leaden night Mar 9, 2019, 11:10 PM

#

Sub rex is a good boi

#

No bulli

waxen elk Mar 9, 2019, 11:10 PM

#

That crushes Allosaurus?

#

I mean yeah

#

at 1.0

leaden night Mar 9, 2019, 11:10 PM

#

Who stays at 1.0 though

waxen elk Mar 9, 2019, 11:10 PM

#

....

#

A good ammount of people

#

faster

#

more stam

#

can shit on mid tiers

leaden night Mar 9, 2019, 11:11 PM

#

I haven't seen a max sub rex since the time Watt, Kev and I decided to pack together

waxen elk Mar 9, 2019, 11:11 PM

#

hm

leaden night Mar 9, 2019, 11:11 PM

#

Literally no one stays as max sub

waxen elk Mar 9, 2019, 11:11 PM

#

Also

glass blaze Mar 9, 2019, 11:12 PM

#

You'd see more if I didn't die mid-growth as often as I do.

leaden night Mar 9, 2019, 11:12 PM

#

They go straight to adult as quickly as possible

waxen elk Mar 9, 2019, 11:12 PM

#

Allo doesn't need anything

#

IMO

#

He's fine

#

Just apexes kind of get on his tail

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 12:01 AM

#

ok wait

#

but if people go straight to adult

#

from subrex

#

then therefore adult rex must be better than sub rex

#

but if subrex survivability >allo survivability

#

then rex survivability > allo survivability

turbid idol Mar 10, 2019, 12:13 AM

#

Suggestion: Fix server issue where servers are not coming up. Seems pretty bad considering most people are having this problem.

north vector Mar 10, 2019, 1:08 AM

#

Playable bary is pretty lame tbh. Id rather have it be a predatory AI. We already have sucho and forcing bary into a niche just because it has one or two differences with sucho doesn’t justify its inclusion. Maia/Para are decently unique in both looks and niches. Same with dryo/galli. Having bary be the small tier equivalent of sucho really isn’t that interesting and the time to create new models should be used on something that can actually bring something new

granite vigil Mar 10, 2019, 1:09 AM

#

Did you even read it?

compact coyote Mar 10, 2019, 1:10 AM

#

bary is also differing enough from sucho to make it a new playable

#

its a more terrestrial sucho variant that can switch between fish and land food

#

sucho is a specialist to water from whats been said before

#

spino, we dont know but we should expect fishing with him as said by punch a while ago

#

however, bary could be a playable just if it is then not a priority

#

seeing there are a lot of other carnivores that can be put before it

blazing charm Mar 10, 2019, 1:12 AM

#

I mean, I thought we did a good job of giving it a unique gameplay feel and niche. I wouldn't really say it was just "one or two" differences.

compact coyote Mar 10, 2019, 1:13 AM

#

plus, it being ai literally changes nothing about the fact that it will still be in game and it will still need its own stats and niche

north vector Mar 10, 2019, 1:18 AM

#

Seems pointless to spend time and energy in yet another spinosaurid when something more unique like anky or herrera could be worked on

blazing charm Mar 10, 2019, 1:20 AM

#

Never said Bary had to be prioritized over the development of something else, just something down the line.

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 1:42 AM

#

@jovial arch
Allosaurus is only currently outshined by Trex, as a viable dinosaur, because of how easy it is to grow & form an apex pack, and how uncommon Small Tier "swarms" are ATM. Allosaurus is a much, much better defensive dinosaur than Tyrannosaurus; his alt turn is simply amazing, and Trex would kill for his bleed heal and ambush duration, furthermore high trot speed and stamina regen are also cards that it has that Trex does not. So while Trex has a far more potent offensive game, given it can ambush and kill everything in the game except Carnotaurus, Allosaurus has a much better defensive one.

Normally, this would mean that the worry of running into a Dilo swarm could dissuade picking a Trex; do you really want to grow 6hrs only to be cucked by a swarm? A single Allo can fend off wave after wave of Dilo/Utah, if skilled of course. And an abundance of mid tiers also means that growing into adult faster is much more valuable to survive when faced with an abundance of Utah/Dilo/Carno predation.

But Threetails, the problem isnt Trex's speed, or Subrex's versatility. It's that the metagame does not favor the advantages Allo has over Trex. In a Meta of Apex packs vs. Apex packs, due to how easy they are to grow and sustain, it isnt an issue of Trex being too fast. It's that being offensive is currently 10x more viable, and the threat of Small tier swarms is not nearly as grave as it has been in the past.

#

Circular balance, we've discussed before but alas...

#

One component is missing: Small tiers.

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

yeah

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

Simply because apexes can form such large groups.

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

i agree

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

Buffing Allo or nerfing Trex, in raw attributes, doesnt matter.

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

actually

#

that's fair

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

If you want Allos to be viable again, ironically, you need to make Small tiers viable

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

we should wait until hunger is more reasonable

#

and ai

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

Mhm

#

Ai and Hunger

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

before really trying to tackle it

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

dilo turn buff and pitch black night wen

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

Are what have just fucked Allo

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 1:46 AM

#

just make dilo viable and then everyone will be happy GWvertiPeepoCheer except utahs but fuck them

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 1:55 AM

#

Still needs a speed nerf imo

#

it won't die to anything but other apexes if it doesn't get one

#

it won't close the gap between mid tiers and apexes

#

Its not just hunger.

#

Hunger makes it easy to grow and sustain. but its still extremely strong in every aspect.

unborn quail Mar 10, 2019, 1:58 AM

#

If this is in reference to Rex, one thing everyone seems to forget is the fact that Rex. Has. Asthma

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 1:58 AM

#

doesn't matter 30 secs of stam is something i would take for every other aspect it gets in return

#

Damage: Amazing
Health: Amazing
Bleed resist: Amazing
Speed: Good
Hunger: Amazing
Ambush: Good
Stamina: Good enough

#

Find the weakness

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:05 AM

#

his turn, which makes him huntable for small carnis

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 2:05 AM

#

but not mid tiers

#

which makes no sense imo...

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:05 AM

#

allos can do it

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 2:05 AM

#

not with the speed buffs

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:06 AM

#

they can

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 2:06 AM

#

unless the rex has brain damage

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:06 AM

#

i've done it, rex didn't have brain damage

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 2:06 AM

#

you guys are the same speed

#

he can stay in place and alt turn

#

you don't stand a chance.... even in open ground

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:06 AM

#

do you think we run in without ambush?

#

why are you saying i don't stand a chance when i've done it lol

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 2:06 AM

#

no but you think he doesn't ambush aswell?

#

again brain damaged rex...

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

his ambush turn is complete ass compared to ours, easy as fuck to juke

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

or just not good...

#

he doesn't need to rush you

#

just alt turn...

#

its so damn easy.....

#

its competent hands its not even possible imo...

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

a pack of skilled allos can still bite him regardless of him altturning

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

doubt it

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

you're free to do that but it's very much doable

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

it was before the speed buff

#

now i argue its pretty much impossible

#

Even I could play Rex and do it and i kind suck at it (or don't have much experience playing it)

thorny lynx Mar 10, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

@strange cliff That isn't how physics work.

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

if you don't have much experience why are you so sure 5-6+ allos can't do it when i'm telling you they can?

strange cliff Mar 10, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

its for balance

#

im not talking about physics

thorny lynx Mar 10, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

No it isn't.

strange cliff Mar 10, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

im not suggesting it for physics reasons

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

cause i have experience playing allo

#

and i've hunted rexes before with a pack of allos

strange cliff Mar 10, 2019, 2:11 AM

#

i suggested it for balance

#

lil grumpy now huh

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

what does that add to balance tho

strange cliff Mar 10, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

usually gigas just jet across the water to kill suchos

#

even if they cant eat them

#

waters supposed to be sorta safer

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:13 AM

#

they slow down prettty damn fast, so personally i think that's fair play if he bites the sucho before his swimspeed turns into ass

strange cliff Mar 10, 2019, 2:13 AM

#

its okay at big lakes and big parts of the lazy river

#

but the only two big lakes are twins and titan

#

well three i guess

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

how is it not ok in small lakes?

#

what's the difference

strange cliff Mar 10, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

it can catch up to sucho easily since therse no where to go

#

its a lot faster if it ambush sprints into the water

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

well ik that, but what's the difference between the giga doing it in a big lake and a small one

strange cliff Mar 10, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

you said the giga loses momentum fast

#

but in smaller lakes that wont matter

languid ember Mar 10, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

well then sorry you put your sucho at the wrong lake

strange cliff Mar 10, 2019, 2:16 AM

#

i dont ever play sucho

#

ive just noticed this

#

and done it a lot myself

pseudo falcon Mar 10, 2019, 2:29 AM

#

@strange cliff they could also just give sucho an equivalent to sprinting, in water.

strange cliff Mar 10, 2019, 2:29 AM

#

yes

pseudo falcon Mar 10, 2019, 2:29 AM

#

Would be a lot less work lol

#

Than individually changing each dino and reworking momentum physics

dreamy basin Mar 10, 2019, 2:46 AM

#

Make it so you can select the type of music you hear. What I mean is. The ability to turn off/on or separately adjust the volume of things like day/night cue, player nearby, location music separately. I like the cue music but the constant music interferes with hearing things sometimes

shut gale Mar 10, 2019, 4:03 AM

#

@dreamy basin should require a skilled allo pack but i agree

#

1 apex bite to an allo should still be deadly imo

dreamy basin Mar 10, 2019, 7:16 AM

#

@shut gale Yes I agree, but a pack of four allos has to run from rex, and giga

hasty parcel Mar 10, 2019, 8:18 AM

#

@brisk sail Styracosaurus and Compsognathus actually both have models made

#

and iirc the devs said they'll be trying to use all their assets

brisk sail Mar 10, 2019, 8:19 AM

#

oh, nice, good to know, Styraco is my number one fave dino, sharing the spot with allo

hasty parcel Mar 10, 2019, 8:19 AM

#

so Styraco is likely to at least be in the game, but if it'll be in survival, that's less certain

brisk sail Mar 10, 2019, 8:20 AM

#

if it is ever put in survival that would be the only dino I would ever be, lol

hasty parcel Mar 10, 2019, 8:20 AM

#

dondiLUL

violet magnet Mar 10, 2019, 8:28 AM

#

@south flower the problem with that is it'll end up being like the Terms Of Service that nobody reads, and they'll just scroll to the bottom and check the box without actually reading the rules

#

at least if they break rules and get an admin called on them it'll alert the admins that this person might be a problem in the future

brittle ivy Mar 10, 2019, 12:37 PM

#

It’s one of those suggestions where it couldn’t hurt. However, as we already have a message of the day implemented for each official server, the fact that you have to click out of it to begin play is already grounds enough for us to not take pity when people don’t read the rules and wind up banned.

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 12:46 PM

#

US3 doesn't have MoTD 😦

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

what's MoTD

#

i wanted to play on US 3 but when u on the dino selection menu your mouse is gone 😦

hasty parcel Mar 10, 2019, 1:27 PM

#

Message of The Day

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 1:35 PM

#

Press windows key and click back on the game @barren zephyr

#

do that a few times it fixs it

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 2:04 PM

#

Can confirm dilo gets 80% thirst from one sip

#

Maybe intended though 😃

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 2:07 PM

#

@desert prairie ok thx will try next time

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:41 PM

#

heh does he not know dilo is a bleeder?

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:43 PM

#

I mean dilo is pretty bad rn, the bite comparison was a bit unnecessary since dilo is a bleeder but I think dilo definitely needs some changes

#

I'd like the black night back because right now you never know if the player you follow the sound or footsteps from runs around with high gamma and sees you from hundreds of meters away

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

#

@stuck coyote terrible suggestion the reduction on dilos bleed didnt hurt him

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

#

@obsidian matrix a.. rex counter?

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

#

since weight got also increased

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

#

oh wait

#

wait you mean something to counter rex

obsidian matrix Mar 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

#

ye

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

#

not something that counts the amount of rexes on a server

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

#

Give dilo better turn and ambush and make nights black as death

#

there

#

i fixed dilo

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

#

alright i'm just gonna go and hide now

obsidian matrix Mar 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

#

xD

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

#

hire me dondi

#

angrylul

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

#

make dilos bleed bypass the sitting mechanic

#

fixed

#

seeing as how dilo was supposed to have some kind of venom in its bite anyways

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:46 PM

#

no

#

just dont let them rest

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:46 PM

#

Dont think thats an option and even you know that

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:46 PM

#

ofcourse it is

#

i killed 7 carnos with dilo

#

he needs turn and ambush help thats all

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

#

Congrats

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

#

i purposly let my prey run away and rest

#

so i can bite them again

#

lul

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

#

if dilo bleed bypasses the sitting bleed heal thing it would be very annoying if you win a fight against a dilo and then lose to it's weird venom

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

#

meh dilo just does not feel... fun

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

#

Oh dilo is fun

#

he has issues

#

but its fun

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

#

night vision is completely worthless on v3 right now

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

#

I think dilo needs better mobility and the black night

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:48 PM

#

Yes dilo can barely out turn a cerato or maia

#

thats an issue

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:48 PM

#

and dilo was supposed to be "the hunter of the night"

#

its like a very downgraded allo

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

#

@mystic kestrel the hell it didnt hurt him. Bleed the the ENTIRE purpose of the dilo

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

#

lmao

#

go read the patchnotes

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

I have. and again. Bite force means nothing to a dilo

#

it is all about the bleed

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

more weight

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

His bleed is fine

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

more damage

#

more damage more bleed

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

only Giga is suppose to have 50 bleed

#

cuz its apex

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

and the bleed was not lowered that much

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

bleeder

#

The bleed on dillo is fine

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

I think it was set from 50 to 40

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

stop hunting adult gigas and rexes and trikes

#

you will be fine

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

Giga doesnt even needs the bleed with its health and bite

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

giga is a apex bleeder

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

when hunting rexs and trikes it does

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

and should have 50 bleed not dilo

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

Lower bleed and slightly increased bite. What does that cause? the need to get more bites in

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

granted you will probably die when hunting rexes

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

@stuck coyote dilo is fine where it is

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

?????????

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

after doing some testing

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

Are you insane

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

dilo is fine

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

Dilo only issue is mobility and night time being shit

#

everything else

#

is gucci

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

#

Right. getting two shot by literally everything isnt an issue

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:52 PM

#

Well if u can turn better

#

u can juke better

#

see the correlation ? ergo u get hit less

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:52 PM

#

TWO BITES TO BE KILLED

light ravine Mar 10, 2019, 2:52 PM

#

why i cant find servers?

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:52 PM

#

ask in #🔧-legacy-troubleshooting-🔧

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:52 PM

#

your going to juke 20+ times in a row before getting bit twice and killed?

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

#

MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET 2 SHOTTED BY SOMETHING 2X YOUR SIZE

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

#

@stuck coyote you are aware how fast dilo grows compared to allos growth?

#

it's fair

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

#

and allo has like 10 extra minutes of growing. big whoop

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

#

i killed allo in 3man group of dilos 1 got bit but we didnt allow allo to chase injured dilo

#

allo is a pack huneter right now

#

it can't solo becuase night is shit

#

and turn is terrible

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

#

10 minutes?

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 2:54 PM

#

@rapid prawn democracy bud...ppl like or dislike your suggestions😉

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:54 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

📎 unknown.png

#

more than an hour more

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:54 PM

#

@barren zephyr No, you just downvote because you are afraid of changes, you are sheeps.

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:54 PM

#

An allo does not take long at all. especially for its helth, bite, stam, and bleed resist

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

#

i'm saying dilo should get 2 shot by allo

#

because it grows much faster than allo

#

and is lower tier

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

#

not even gonna aswer to that lol

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

#

@barren zephyr Because you can't

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

#

Zamasu drop it

#

you sound way too salty

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

#

why are you so angry about people with an opinion on suggestions

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

#

@spiral pond Great job dude, I was going to drop it until you said "salty"

#

The thing is

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

#

._.

#

really ?

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

#

in every game people complain about changes

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

#

you need to calm down son...your way to excited

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

#

@rapid prawn but there's a reason why this change is a horrible idea

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

#

maybe becouse people dont want 60-40 night

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

#

ever heard of dilos?

#

dilos need the night

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

#

Then when they actually change things they are saying "oh I was wrong, this is a great idea"

#

1 dino

#

vs 15

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

#

@rapid prawn yes

#

one dino

#

it's fair the way it is

#

both night and day are the same time

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:57 PM

#

Not really

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:57 PM

#

All ambush dinos benefit in the night

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 2:57 PM

#

i hunt at night with other dinos too...i see no point in your argument

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:57 PM

#

The early morning and sunset

#

what does that count as?

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 2:57 PM

#

day and night is 30mins each

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:57 PM

#

day or night

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 2:57 PM

#

thats for 5 mins

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:58 PM

#

What does the sunrise and sunset count as?

#

that's 10 min in total

#

out of 30 mins

#

it's 1/3 of the time

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 2:58 PM

#

and ?

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:58 PM

#

it counts as dayight

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:58 PM

#

so day is 20 mins, full night is 30 min and sunset and sunrise is 10 mins

#

"even"

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

i don't get what the issue is here zamasu
it's not a big deal

#

some animals need night to hunt better

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

Maybe not for you

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

your counting it as night when it is literally the light of day

versed blaze Mar 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

Start your own server and change the day night times then

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

you sound like the type of person who doesn't play those animals and just want's life easier

versed blaze Mar 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

It's in the game.ini file

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

I mean day does feel a bit short because of sunset/sunrise, but if people don't want a 60-40 then they can downvote it

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

Slam I just wrote what I counted it as

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 3:01 PM

#

as it is the night has already been lightened up to the point of not even needing night vision unless your in a patch of trees.

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 3:01 PM

#

The day is short, these people just thinks about themselves rather than improving the game. They are afraid of changes and egoistic

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

#

@rapid prawn you made a suggestion, the community reacted but the community doesnt make decisions around here....its up to the developers to make changes to the game or leave it the it is now, just accept that and move on.

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

#

I don't think we need thenyaw servers personally, I think V3 has to be made so there are less unused parts of it and the servers need to be improved to the map can hold more dinos -->feels less empty

versed blaze Mar 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

#

Says the person trying to change the game to suit them.......................

stuck coyote Mar 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

#

Really? Because its more like trying to get in a change to benefit one group of dinos over the other group, instead of keeping it even. THAT is egotistic

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

#

@barren zephyr Man shut up already

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

#

you clearly excited and dont accept others opinions...

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 3:03 PM

#

^

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 3:03 PM

#

@barren zephyr A lion does not care what a sheep has to say

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 3:03 PM

#

lol

#

ok kid

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 3:03 PM

#

lol all you want but ur a sheep

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 3:03 PM

#

why are you disrespecting me? i dont get it lol

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 3:03 PM

#

<@&401466542140817419>

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 3:03 PM

#

and you're rude and angry about something silly

torn thistle Mar 10, 2019, 3:04 PM

#

Oi.

rapid prawn Mar 10, 2019, 3:04 PM

#

How am I more rude than you guys?

desert prairie Mar 10, 2019, 3:04 PM

#

Come on fellas, go to #401470471750811669 or dm eachother

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 3:05 PM

#

you're depicting yourself as something better because you have a different opinion

torn thistle Mar 10, 2019, 3:05 PM

#

Take it to DMs.

#

and @scarlet current discuss suggestions in here.

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 3:08 PM

#

Buff dilos mobility

#

Sank you nobulli

mental sleet Mar 10, 2019, 3:09 PM

#

wrong place deino.

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 3:29 PM

#

Sorry a out getting back late to my suggestion reply - Yeah I didn’t know if it would be something that would really make a difference, since as you mentioned you have to exit out the MoTD box anyhow. But as someone else mentioned, it could allow admins a better(?) means of knowing who has a higher chance at rule breaks and can use the possibility of having to check a server agreement box against a said rule breaker.

#

I mean, I know it’s not something guaranteed to work

minor basalt Mar 10, 2019, 3:36 PM

#

It's not going to work at all

#

can't you whitelist a server anyway

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

May I ask what “whitelist” means?

versed blaze Mar 10, 2019, 4:24 PM

#

Only certain people are allowed, IE friends. If your name doesn't match the list you don't get in

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 4:25 PM

#

Ohhh gotcha. I didn’t even know that was able to be done!

#

Thanks

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 4:40 PM

#

You can also make it locked to being within a steam group, so someone needs to be a member to enter

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 4:40 PM

#

Ohhh

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

#

I want to say a good player dilo can fuck up an utah

#

If you have finger to play

#

And no one Dino need to destroy rex in 1v1

#

Rex is ultimate fighter dinosaur

#

The only for my who will be able to destroy rex in 1v1 will be the reworked ankylosaurus

#

All other Dino will lose to rex in 1v1

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 4:43 PM

#

Why? Why should trike not be able to 1v1 a Trex

#

That's silly.

#

I don't feel Anky or Trike should destroy Trex.

#

They BOTH should be dangerous to a Trex.

#

But "destroying" is like, Diablo vs Giga

#

Roflstomp

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

OK, not really destroying but the anky will have an adventage

#

After it's how the player will play

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

Why wouldnt Trike also have an advantage?

#

Trike cannot run away, so he must be able to fight.

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

It will come later

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

Same with Anky.

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

I’ve killed several rexes on a server as a spino. Without dying up until the fourth or so time because I was in a tricky spot.

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

After the recoding of game and affinity

#

And I want to say stats is nothing in game, yesterday if I have more than 10% food and 700 of ping, one of both trike I've figth was already dead.

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 4:47 PM

#

But it was hard to tell if the Rex players I killed were noobs or not. Even with a broken leg I ass-road them because they didn’t keep distance lmao

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 4:48 PM

#

Spoon?

#

You sucess to ass ride spoon?

#

Wow

#

Oh

#

No sry I've understand it was spinosaurus player but it's rex what you talk XD

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

Lmao yeah, I was spoon and they Rex

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

But you are the spino

brisk mesa Mar 10, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

Spino has the turn of gods.

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

^

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 4:51 PM

#

Spinosaurus is too strong.
If you bone break at the first bite you kill it easy but if you don't, you'll destroy the rex after

#

I think he will have a big nerf when he will be rework

#

Nerf weight mass but buff hp

#

Like 7 or 8t and 9 000 hp or 11 000

#

But damage like 200

#

Or 150

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

Not necessarily, unless you’re a smart player. I had broken legs and killed a couple rexes before. It’s just using the turns to your advantage and such.
But there’s always going to be people that comment on dinos needing a nerf or buff. Always.

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

Because he don't have a super jaws

#

Or no

#

With bleed rework, apex need to have bigger damage but spoon will have a big mass

#

And enormous hp

#

But I don't think he will have too many damage

#

300 damage or 400

#

With 7 or 8t for mass

#

And 10 000 hp

#

Or 9000

#

And not a turn like he have now

#

Nerf the turn raptor jesus

#

Please

#

Or same mass than giga

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

#

I would agree on the turn radius for spino needing work, but only because I imagine with that big sail, I don’t see it making dramatic turns like it currently does.

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 4:57 PM

#

Yes

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 4:58 PM

#

Raptors I can understand the turn radius.

#

They are small and agile and in my opinion, so they could make the turns.

mystic kestrel Mar 10, 2019, 5:07 PM

#

Spino is not comming tosurvival anytime soon...

#

gasp

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 5:31 PM

#

Ancalagonsaurus Smaugzillacus Asks: Will spinosaurus be added to survival?
Will we be getting a spinosaurus remodel and will it get implemented into survival?

Answer:
Yes.

#

By punch

#

But yes it's not soon

pale prairie Mar 10, 2019, 5:42 PM

#

pretty sure don answered that one

#

but yeah i'd say atleast 3-5 months before we get spino

#

need to do the recode first after all

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

But why you want a better turn for dilo

south flower Mar 10, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

I don’t see the point in a arctic/snowy landscape when dinos were cold-blooded reptiles

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

Stop please

#

He is good

versed blaze Mar 10, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

What's wrong with dilo turn? At a trot the diameter is the body length

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

I have played dilo so many time and he have a really good turn

#

Don't attack in trot

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

dilo is really not that good atm, skilled players manage but it could use some improvements on mobility

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 5:58 PM

#

Guy

#

Just walk

#

And stop with trot

#

When you are attacked by Utah you are juste un walk and the solo Utah will do nothing

#

And be sure you just stop in legs, bite, turn in walk and run immediately after.

versed blaze Mar 10, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

Only thing wrong with Dilo is the cam needs to be moved back a bit, that's it

pulsar lake Mar 10, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

Yes

#

Move allo and dilo back a bit please.

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

Even something like a few splashes of blood every couple of feet steps, with scent it would pop-out

#

RE: Solid ☝

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 6:40 PM

#

and maybe not these giant blood splashes that, depending on the size of the dino, look like it lost all of it's blood in one tick?

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 6:41 PM

#

Yeah something more like footsteps, where its more consistent, but red

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 6:43 PM

#

@calm lily , rex is supposed to be a fast ambush hunter with stam problems in this game

#

and giga is supposed to be the endurance bleeder (it doesn't really depend on it's bleed rn)

lone crypt Mar 10, 2019, 6:44 PM

#

If giga HAD to get a buff, I’d increase its size so it’s strides would match its new speed, and that would also make giga easier to spot

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 6:44 PM

#

ye juvi dilo cam is too close but tbh no one gives a shit kinda sad

#

sammel u have to tag him

lone crypt Mar 10, 2019, 6:45 PM

#

Yeah, juvi dilo cam is a problem

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 6:45 PM

#

i can write it again in sugg vote that siht up

#

first dino was dilo when i first played

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 6:48 PM

#

I think a slight giga speed buff (not faster than rex) would be fine so rexes need longer to catch up --> need to get closer before starting the ambush if it didn't impact other dinos that would be slower than giga if gigas were made faster

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

Making giga faster means making its ambush have lower mult, and speed up dibble and sucho again

jolly willow Mar 10, 2019, 7:15 PM

#

giga would be ok with a very slight speed buff but not rexes speed

#

again, rex is the ambush pred, hes fast but in short bursts bc of shit stam and giga is the sprinter

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 7:52 PM

#

I know

#

But even then

#

If you make giga run 30.9 he will be fast as sucho

#

And he already outruns dibble

oak shale Mar 10, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

People actually dislike the thought of growing a bit faster

#

Feelssadman

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

I mean long growth time is one of the factors that limit bigger dino population a bit

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

A bit

oak shale Mar 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

I guess so

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

doesn't really seem to help as half the players are apexes rn

oak shale Mar 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

True

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

but it would probably be even higher if their growth time was lower

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

#

Maybe juvi apexes will be hell to play

#

Since I heard something about juvi rebalancing

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

I think apexes shouldn't be in packs of up to 5, it's just too easy to grow if you grow in a 4 member apex pack

#

and then grow to be the fifth member

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

#

2 per pack and 1 sub is fine for me

#

And 1 or 2 juvies at max with them

#

Or just 1 sub/juvi

#

Since a pair can already kill camas

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

#

I've thought about making the growth time of the adult stage longer, but not making the stats increase the same all the time (so at the start of the adult stage your stats increase way faster than at the end. In addition to that, it would be cool to have bigger AI (maybe hadro AI) spawning randomly on the map in small/medium sized herds, wandering around (maybe from lake to lake) so apexes (or packs of mid tiers) can find them and feed off of them for a good while but they have to wamder around to find them (because rn it is easier to get AI if you stay in one place compared to when moving around the map)

#

of course you can get unlucky and not find any herd, so smaller AI still has to be there in some form for the apexes

#

but it could maybe result in more apex fights because more apexes actively wander around

spiral pond Mar 10, 2019, 8:36 PM

#

Do you consider Ava’s as small ai ?

#

I think maybe make the power gap between mid tiers and apexes smaller

#

For example: why grow 2/3 or apex time as sucho to just get 2 shot by giga

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 8:38 PM

#

nah I think the apexes are good compared to the mid tiers, they can just grow too easily

#

right now most people play apex because they're so easy, if they were harder to grow it would be a big reward to have an adult apex

#

the reward should remain high but the risk needs to be higher

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 8:42 PM

#

AI shouldn't spawn around Apexes 😉

#

It's so easy to find a secluded spot as apex, nest up and create an army

torpid wedge Mar 10, 2019, 8:44 PM

#

guys lol

#

it's already been said the juvi dilo cam is already being addressed next patch

#

just saying

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 8:45 PM

#

smaller AI should at least not spawn so much that they can sustain themselves off of it forever, it should spawn a bit so they can last a bit longer without killing players (or my suggested hadrosaur AI) but the smaller AI should not be enough to keep them fed all the time

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 8:45 PM

#

AI maybe only spawn at 20% hunger for apex instead of 70%

#

They are HUNTERS they should be forced to hunt

#

Most other carnivores are just opportunists, scavengers, and fish eaters(whenever that happens), the ammount of AI that spawn for mid-tier is more than enough to sustain them, same for apex... they just eat more often

#

It's just a little too easy to be an Apex

#

Especially with 5-6 people

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 8:50 PM

#

yeah definitely

#

as I said I think it should be the high reward it is right now but it should be way harder to get it (I hope the devs will not do that by giving them crazy hunger drain as that would be just annoying)

#

It should be at least somewhat fun to play an apex but it should definitely be more challenging

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 8:51 PM

#

Slower hunger drain with no AI spawns would allow them to actually find and hunt other dinos

#

no/less (etc)

#

and if they really can't catch players, they can eat the players AI 😂

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 8:55 PM

#

like they sometimes do now with 'taxing utah rock'

#

utah rock needs to go away though imo, the utahs on there take away many player slots but because they sit in one place all the time the map feels even more empty than it does already

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 8:58 PM

#

There's so many other rocks utahs can hop on... that's just the most central one, gets the most traffic

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 8:58 PM

#

yeah true

#

maybe if full dino collision is added they can't stand on those tiny flat spots on rocks they use to get up to the top

#

because they jump against the rock and fall down again instead of jumping against it, their head sticking into it and them being able to just jump higher

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 9:03 PM

#

give them concussions for doing it? 😄

#

They will still find a way, as Dr. Malcom says

#

Little side hops

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 9:05 PM

#

it would be cool if running/jumping into things (like walls or other dinosaurs) would, in case of walls or dinos that are way bigger than you, give you concussions and in case of smaller dinos make them fall over

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 9:05 PM

#

Except Pachy, they get a free pass

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 9:06 PM

#

I can imagine a pachy running into something like a dilo causing it to fall over ( the dilo )

#

Or a quetz flying against a cliff and just dying from that

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 9:07 PM

#

Why should ai even be related to hunger

#

Why

#

It makes no sense

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 9:07 PM

#

Well people sometimes just avoid eachother for the AI snaccs

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 9:07 PM

#

Why have hunger if ai are just going to spawn in 20 feet away when you’re hungry

#

I literally just afk while growing my Dinos rn

#

Seriously

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 9:07 PM

#

The map is too big not to have SOME ai

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 9:08 PM

#

Yesterday while I was growing a Dilo

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 9:08 PM

#

If AI spawns close to carnivores it does because it is less work for the server if people only get AI sometimes (when they're hungry) instead of all the time

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 9:08 PM

#

I went and got dinner, did my laundry, and half my hw while I was growing it

umbral prairie Mar 10, 2019, 9:08 PM

#

But I think especially bigger AI herds (like hadros or sauropods) should just spawn randomly

jovial arch Mar 10, 2019, 9:08 PM

#

Like, bruh

#

I literally just afk on Dinos now

#

It’s pretty dumb

hazy sparrow Mar 10, 2019, 9:10 PM

#

well ai just start spawning at 70% hunger, I said it should be less for apex, to get them to do their hunting thing, but if all dinos had the same %before AI spawned, would it be any better?

#

I know without AI lots of people would be dying of starvation... there's been a few times where 5 in a row AI spawned inside the river, couldn't eat them, and was down to 2% hunger before I got one on land (sucho btw)

#

Didn't see any players during that time either though 😃 so, the AI is necessary

#

Unless people should be dying of hunger 😃

#

but currently, its impossible to die of hunger unless you miss every AI spawn

barren zephyr Mar 10, 2019, 9:59 PM

#

Maybe raising the player cap on the servers will add more competition for food..meaning, there will be more dinos fighting for one oro, taco or ava atm.

#

Which will improve the pvp and make the game more thrilling...this is supposed to be a survival horror game but to me its a walk in the park.

violet magnet Mar 10, 2019, 10:29 PM

#

except v3 is fucking massive and other people have legit gone hours on a full server without seeing anyone else

#

so without ai they would've starved

hazy sparrow Mar 11, 2019, 2:29 AM

#

Let em starve then 😈

thorny lynx Mar 11, 2019, 2:54 AM

#

V3 is a map for, like... 500 people

waxen elk Mar 11, 2019, 3:20 AM

#

Making Giga faster than rex

#

Ah yes sure

#

That would instantly destroy the ecosystem

#

Rex or Giga’s stats aren’t the problem

#

They’re fucking everywhere

#

And theres too much of them

#

80% of the server is apexes

#

Gigas and Rexes are both a pest

#

As for Rex

#

Most balance issues started with it’s speedbuff

paper oriole Mar 11, 2019, 3:31 AM

#

yeah buffing two other powerful carnivores wouldn't help anything at all it'd just make things worse

still temple Mar 11, 2019, 4:41 AM

#

"utha", "ceria" dondiThink

uncut zenith Mar 11, 2019, 6:37 AM

#

@hazy sparrow yes it's a survival game but you shouldn't be penalised by dying from starvation because another player hasn't come your way

#

before the ai got patched you'd literally walk the entire map hoping for a player, not find one and die from starvation

#

lemme tell ya, growing a big boy rex and then dying from starvation isn't fun

shell willow Mar 11, 2019, 7:34 AM

#

@dense depot I know I'm like a day late, but let me put it this way: While it would be much more aesthetically pleasing to have short death/fight animations and such, it would be ineffective for combat if you're fighting multiple people or something like that. Imagine having a pack of ceratos on you as an allo, but the one thing stopping you from getting away is the animations that force play over your WASD movements. That's just my thought on it though.

dense depot Mar 11, 2019, 7:49 AM

#

@shell willow that's a good point. But it would add to realism. Like a pressed mouse button would trigger a finishing move. If you don't want it, so you wouldn't have to see it. As the title says suggestion discussing 😃😃

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 8:21 AM

#

still no Apex limits to 2 adults..guess that the devs dont see a problem

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 8:21 AM

#

What is the problem exactly????

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 8:21 AM

#

gasp

#

@misty island 90% of the servers are Apex...to be more precise groups of 5 everywhere

#

dondiLUL

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 8:22 AM

#

So it shouldn’t be limiting the number of apex in a group

#

But the amount of apex in a server

#

That’s the solution

#

But they can’t do that because everyone wants to play them

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 8:24 AM

#

i think that increasing its hunger and limiting groups would make ppl not picking Apex dinos...

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 8:24 AM

#

No they won’t

#

Tons of solo Rex

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 8:24 AM

#

its your opinion

#

i dont blame ppl that solo with Apex...its clearly more challenging

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 8:25 AM

#

You just argued with your own point lol....

#

You said 90% of server population are apex

#

And limiting apex grouping would decrease the chances of ppl picking them
But then you say soloing is not a problem because “it’s clearly more challenging”

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 8:26 AM

#

my point was that there should be a limit to Apex groups to 2 not to solo Rex...and most ppl wouldnt play Rex if they went solo that i can assure you dondiLUL

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 8:27 AM

#

Okay

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 8:27 AM

#

"And limiting apex grouping would decrease the chances of ppl picking them"...thats totaly the point bud, if you cant survive has a solo/duo Rex than pick another dino...

#

dondiYikes

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:23 AM

#

@fiery iron discussions goes here

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:23 AM

#

oh sorry lol I wasn't the guy who messaged there responding in the first place

#

Do some people have a Vendetta against the Dryo being able to nest in a Burrow?

#

Like, I don't see the problem with it unless you explain why

wheat hemlock Mar 11, 2019, 10:24 AM

#

Dryos should die instantly upon spawning

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:24 AM

#

lol nice

wheat hemlock Mar 11, 2019, 10:25 AM

#

Or have no mouths to drink or eat, so they eventually starve, like the mayfly

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:25 AM

#

Wow I really like how you formed your opinion mate it's not like people enjoy playing as Dryo and not only as Rex or Giga

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:26 AM

#

dont bite the bait gojira

wheat hemlock Mar 11, 2019, 10:26 AM

#

I love my Utah's and Carnos m8, im a speed freak 😛

#

it's too late for him Tommy

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:27 AM

#

I really want someone to tell me why nests in Dryo burrows are a bad idea other than saying that Dryos should die instantly upon spawning

wheat hemlock Mar 11, 2019, 10:28 AM

#

I like the idea tbh 😂 but i dont like dryos

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:28 AM

#

Burrows are near invisble, only chance you'd catch a dryo would when he needed to drink/eat

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:28 AM

#

I don't think so, Burrows are easy to spot if you are trying to find one

#

but, I see what you mean

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:29 AM

#

How does sound work with burrows?

#

I've never been inside one

wheat hemlock Mar 11, 2019, 10:29 AM

#

But there should be more dinos that can get into those burrows in that case, all hatchlings of every carni/juvies etc

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:30 AM

#

Is it like you're out in the open everyone else can hear you?

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:30 AM

#

that would level the playing field for that kind of thing I'd say, you'll be able to nest in a burrow but if a juvie utahraptor appears...

wheat hemlock Mar 11, 2019, 10:31 AM

#

Things inside the burrow then should be able to hear what's outside if it's close to the burrow, vibrations in the ground etc

#

But things inside sound dim

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:31 AM

#

I'm asking, since the only time I find Dryos is when they're outside running. And that's only due to sound queues when they talk or whatever.

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:32 AM

#

Burrows are only hard to see if you find a good spot.

#

only

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:32 AM

#

And in a world where all none-apexes need to be wary of strotting around. Having even less dinos around the world sitting in burrows, would make it less interesting.

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:32 AM

#

they are quite large and have a big hole on em

#

Dryo would be one of the few dinosaurs to even get to burrow tho

#

like, that's only 1 dino lmao

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:33 AM

#

That might still be 10% of the entire server population.

#

If there's 10 dryos

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:33 AM

#

do you think everything is equal? XD

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:33 AM

#

No.. Have I said anything to imply that?

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:33 AM

#

Like I've never really seen anyone who likes playing Dryo

#

"might"

#

"10%"

#

I'm saying this could make burrows somewhat useful in a sense

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:34 AM

#

You asked why I voted no to your suggestion, this is why.

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:34 AM

#

It's not a very good reason but okay

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 10:35 AM

#

yes it is gojira

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:35 AM

#

And I didn't think your suggestion was very good either. Glad we're at the same level

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:35 AM

#

you know you can destroy Burrows right?

#

easily?

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:35 AM

#

You know you can't really spot burrows that easily?

#

It's not like everyone is constantly looking down into the ground walking spying for Dryo burrows.

#

Since you need to look around you all the time trying to keep a look out for something that might be bigger and faster than you.

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:36 AM

#

Dryo Burrows are pretty big... although... like quite damn large.

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:36 AM

#

Apexes are also, quite damn large.

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 10:36 AM

#

maybe from a dryo perspective dude xD

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:36 AM

#

Which is what I try to avoid walking around.

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:36 AM

#

do you think Apexes are trying to hunt Dryos of all things?

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:36 AM

#

No I didn't say that

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:37 AM

#

You imply that.

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:37 AM

#

No..

#

I'm saying when I walk around as a none-apex predator.

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:37 AM

#

Also what's with "Apexes are also, quite damn large"

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:37 AM

#

Say Allosaurus?

#

I don't look down the ground, to try to spot that tiny Dryo nest.

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:37 AM

#

"tiny"

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:37 AM

#

I'm looking around, to avoid not walking into the jaws of an apex predator.

#

Compared to the threats to me, it is tiny.

violet magnet Mar 11, 2019, 10:38 AM

#

apexes are also quite damn large but are capable of hiding so well you can't see them

#

if you made a burrow in a dense forest, under some bushes, or even in the far corners of the map no one would be able to find it

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:38 AM

#

I'm not attacking your personally Gojira, so you don't need to take it personally.

#

Not everyone will agree with you.

#

Such is the world

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 10:38 AM

#

it is tiny Gojira...maybe for a velociraptor or a dryo its huge, but for any other dino its quite small and can easily mix with the environment so its truly hard to spot

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:43 AM

#

was just thinking of a way to have them be more viable, specifically for nesting.

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 10:44 AM

#

dryo is viable...its fast, tiny and has the burrow...

#

it has high chances of surviving for a long long time

#

not to speak that growing a dryo is like what? 30minutes? 1h?

#

and you can nest under a tree and you ll be fine...

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:45 AM

#

but when it comes to nesting, Burrows are literally useless

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 10:45 AM

#

you dont need the burrow to nest

waxen talon Mar 11, 2019, 10:46 AM

#

Maybe the intention of adding then wasn't to improve nesting.

leaden night Mar 11, 2019, 10:46 AM

#

Burrows are worse for your survival than just hiding in a bush

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 10:47 AM

#

you can nest in so many places has a dryo..its so small..the problem with ppl is that they make loads of noise and that attracts predators, if a dryo doesnt make sounds (which he doesnt need to) its really hard for someone to be killed has a damn tiny and fast dino

leaden night Mar 11, 2019, 10:48 AM

#

A carnivore can easily camp the burrow entrance if they really want you

#

Juking and hiding is a far better strat

#

You have a fuckton of stamina and are faster than most of your predators

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:49 AM

#

Basically what I meant to say was that Burrowing seems useful for nesting personally and well, I see what Ditto is saying.

#

but, whatever

leaden night Mar 11, 2019, 10:50 AM

#

Dryo nesting is also useless

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:50 AM

#

unless you want to spam nest Dryos into a big herd

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 10:50 AM

#

useless? and why is that? lol

leaden night Mar 11, 2019, 10:51 AM

#

The time it takes for one Dryo egg

#

You can grow a near full adult in the time span and just run to whoever

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:51 AM

#

that's basically the idea

leaden night Mar 11, 2019, 10:51 AM

#

There's actually no point in nesting

wheat hemlock Mar 11, 2019, 10:52 AM

#

Well there's the 'roleplay' aspect

#

i guess

leaden night Mar 11, 2019, 10:52 AM

#

Outside of potentiality messing with people who click invites from randoms

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 10:52 AM

#

by that logic theres no point in nesting has any dino, since you start with a juvie and save time

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:52 AM

#

or aksing them

leaden night Mar 11, 2019, 10:52 AM

#

No

#

Dryos literally grow to near max adulthood in the same time

#

A juv Giga actually benefits from nesting

#

It's slow and takes forever to grow

#

Along with a parent

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 10:54 AM

#

a carebear you mean? lol

leaden night Mar 11, 2019, 10:54 AM

#

No

#

A nested animal is not carebeared

#

Anyway

#

It takes 25 minutes to get an egg

#

Dryo reaches full adult in 30 minutes

#

Dryo is also very fast throughout its growth

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:56 AM

#

I'd say Nesting as a Dryo is good if you got a lot of people that are able to, then get a Dryo army and live as a Family basically.

leaden night Mar 11, 2019, 10:56 AM

#

It takes over double the time to get a full adult Dryo from nesting

fiery iron Mar 11, 2019, 10:56 AM

#

If you don't Nest, it would take forever for them to come to you

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 11:19 AM

#

@barren zephyr check out my suggestion about faeces and nesting see if you agree with it
I just wanna if you think it would balance out the herbivores and carnivores

delicate atlas Mar 11, 2019, 11:28 AM

#

Is collision with other players something that's being worked on? At this point in a fight we just run straight through eachother and the first player who ends up behind the other one will win the fight. However if collisions where on and you could like, say almost push eachother off, or bump into each other that would change the whole fighting system.

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 11:39 AM

#

@misty island ill check it

#

Cant find it

#

Can you copy paste it to my dm?

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 1:13 PM

#

@barren zephyr sry I was in class and on my phone I don’t think I can copy it via it, try going to the suggestion tab and search my name

#

#general-feedback

south flower Mar 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

#

I think they fixed the burrows so that you can grow after you’ve exited a burrow, and now hatchlings can enter burrows if I remember correctly (lemme know if I’m wrong) - so even if you can’t nest in the burrow, you can have a nest right close to the burrow and your young can remain by the burrow in case something comes by.

#

K I’ve said “burrow” enough lmao

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 2:50 PM

#

@barren zephyr

#

Faeces implementation and it’s uses

So I was wondering if it be would possible that the game could implement a system involving making use of faeces. The idea is to let players mark their territories while adding benefits and disadvantages for both carnivores and herbivores.
In general, faeces would come in different sizes and appear in different colours according to their host’s diet under tracking mode when a player sniffs.
This would let herbivores avoid predator territories and allow hunters to locate their prey in a more generic location while only providing minimum informations. Which could lead to tactics like bluffing about the size of the pack you are in and such ectectect.
However this would not be exactly a fun change to the isle as it is already hard enough, so here’s an extension of my idea to spice things up a little.
Except for only being as a mark indicator, faeces would also attract AI in a balanced way.
For herbivores, a herbivore dropping would attract AI carnivores, this wouldn’t just increase the danger for the herbivore players but in fact protects them. Since the hunters will now have to watch out for AI predators that might interfere with their hunt or even being hurt or killed by an AI predator.
As for carnivores, their faeces would enhance the chances of herbivore food spawning. Not only attracting bigger and more AI plant eating dinos but also more meat eating players. Increasing both danger and benefits.
Now at this point, the game would have distinctive play styles between different species or even different packs in the same species.

I just played this game for a couple of days, so if any of my immature ideas were already mentioned at some point. Please pardon me for wasting ur time going through my wall of text with poor English but thanks for sticking till the end. Wish you all good luck and a wonder life in the island of 💀

#

and this one

#

Nesting features that favours herbivores more
Wouldn’t it be cool if there is a more advantage to being hatched rather than just spawning in a juv so you saving the walk and wait and extra half and hour??? I mean it’s fine and pretty balance between the time consumption and risk a player is taking, but it gets really old after a while.
So my suggestion is as followed :
Nesting requires a pair of dedicated (invite like groups??or smthing) male and female, and they would provide a growth bonus to all their hatchings when within both of their “buff” radius, at a cost of increase in food consumption to both parents and the children.
My idea is to let apex carnivores to only be able to rise 1-2 kids at the same time, as they have to constantly look for food WITH their kids instead of camping Ava’s and wait for 7hrs.
So it would be something like this: (Just a wide guess for the numbers)
Apex Carnivores , +50% growth and 75% food consumption to hatchlings until subs stage, but also +75% food consumption for parents per hatchlings in the vicinity. Small/medium buff radius.
Apex herbivores , +70% growth and 100% food consumption to hatchlings until subs stage, but also +80% food consumption for parents per hatchlings in the vicinity. Medium/large buff radius.
The same numbers are used for herbivores, but the difference is, there are usually more concentrated spawn of food source for herbivores. So they wouldn’t have to constantly wonder the map until the food runs out.
Eventually this would develop into a way more realistic game as the players would be rewarded for acting what dinos would actually do —> Herbs migrates in packs to nesting grounds, and carnis roam around their hunting ground for food. And I think it would also work with my previous 💩 suggestions
Idk is this is gonna work or not but ya thanks for sticking till the end

desert prairie Mar 11, 2019, 4:32 PM

#

Good lord that wall of text

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 4:32 PM

#

sry..

#

i was supposed to pm him

#

but i am not comfortable with adding people on discord... so

desert prairie Mar 11, 2019, 4:36 PM

#

👌

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:21 PM

#

@misty island sorry took a while to read it. And it has some good points but then again this would force herbivores to move constantly and risk more than they already do. Herbivores life is already dangerous and this wouldn't help it.

But i liked the idea of having 2 people as parents. And that's how it should be, we aren't snails after all. Growth rates are pretty balanced but for some those should be made faster when they add new dinos. Some growth times (7h) is ridiculous and for players who have only 2h/day play time this is too much.

So to finish my wall of text, id say that there should be two parents and growth rates made faster for those whose go above 6h.

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 5:24 PM

#

thats the thing

#

you provides different ways

#

for people to play

#

and ofcause it wouldnt be depending on the food rate now

#

there should also be a tweak

#

maybe in specific area and such

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:35 PM

#

I think server hosts should have more options on things. Like how often AI spawn and so on.

#

In settings when they make server

#

But not after making it

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:39 PM

#

@barren zephyr why?

#

I mean rex is supposed to be the fast ambush hunter in this game

#

and giga is supposed to fill the niche of an endurance hunter

#

Giga was probably faster irl but the dinos in this game are not supposed to be entirely accurate, plus rex being a slow endurance hunter would mean that it needed a bigger rework (because endurance hunter and bb don't quite fit together)

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

ya but it should be changable tho...

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

Rex is good as it is now. Just the growth time is little salty to swallow.

torpid wedge Mar 11, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

it deserves a longer growth time if anything

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

I mean apexes are too easy to play right now

torpid wedge Mar 11, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

APGIFsips

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

In real world rex didn't do rong runs, mainly short sprints and it scavenged corpses more than hunted.

#

So..... Yah

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

I'd be fine if apexes had a longer growth during their adult stage, with stats increasing faster at the start then at the end

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

Yah but think about it. You play and grow 6-10h rex u'll lose to some giga or small drop in mountainside

torpid wedge Mar 11, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

thats the risk you take going apex

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

I understand apexes should be sloww to grow

#

But

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

apex is already high reward, but the risk is too low

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

Still 4h would be enough too

torpid wedge Mar 11, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

no buts, 6-7 hours for a rex isnt that bad considering mid tiers are only 4

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

definitely not, all dino growth times would have to be lowered then

torpid wedge Mar 11, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

you’re saying a rex should have the same growth as an allo OMEGALUL

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

and that would result in people being more careless because they can just grow another one easily

torpid wedge Mar 11, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

^^

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

Shiro how long you think some bigger dinos who are 11k tonnage will take to grow? 11h?

#

In the end it gets too long

hazy sparrow Mar 11, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

It's not too long, people can logout and come back whenever they want

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

there have to be other factors besides long growth, but making apex growth time shorter would just not work

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:53 PM

#

Ok

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:53 PM

#

I mean look at the servers now, already flooded with apexes

hazy sparrow Mar 11, 2019, 5:53 PM

#

I saw 2 sub-rexes logout when they heard carnos in the distance... it's a fact of life 😃

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:54 PM

#

But if they add for example 35k ton long necks it wont be good if they take 20h. Also those need to have some kind of predator to be able to kill em. Or those wont be playable.

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:54 PM

#

I think they said they didn't want playable sauropods of that size

#

because the gameplay would be slow and boring

#

could be wrong though

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:54 PM

#

Sammel its flooded because Herbivore is only food atm. They need to raise some herbies atk like Steggyes

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:55 PM

#

iirc brachi is going to be AI and playable in sandbox

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:55 PM

#

Im dine if brachi will be ai

#

Fine*

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:55 PM

#

nah not really, even if herbis were not just food apexes could still afk grow in a bush in a corner of the map

#

it would increase the amount of herbi players a bit

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:56 PM

#

Lol... Idk what game you play but my carnivores will starve if i afk in bush

#

It used to be possible to afk from juvi raptor to sub but not anymore

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

yeah of course you have to get some AI every now and them but the AI spawns in mass literally ten meters away from you

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

Again. Not in server i play

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

where do you play

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 5:58 PM

#

Ai spawns arent that easy to find

#

Pangaea survival

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

it spawns pretty much everywhere I've been so far on the map, and always so close that I could find the AI in a minute or faster

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

Yah if it spawns. For me i may go for 20km and not find any AI nor hear one. I think its because i move too fast through regions.

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

I've written a suggestion on AI improvement for apex gameplay if you scroll up a bit in #general-feedback but apparently nobody liked it

#

yeah you have a higher chance of getting AI if you stay around one place, if you travel around it feels like the AI spawns behind you

versed blaze Mar 11, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

Thats because the AI DOES spawn behind you

umbral prairie Mar 11, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

also nobody got that they could put reactions on the single suggestions, unless they all disliked all three suggestions

versed blaze Mar 11, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

Because you're moving

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

Atm carnivores are getting bad light since there is too many of them. In Pangaea there has been estimated to be 80% meat eaters and of them 40% are apexes.

This is why its hard as Herbi to survive if you don't camp one bush.

torpid wedge Mar 11, 2019, 6:05 PM

#

lmao its not like people grow in one sitting

mystic kestrel Mar 11, 2019, 6:05 PM

#

@split granite useless suggestion

split granite Mar 11, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

Someone explain why they don't atm.

torpid wedge Mar 11, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

why are you giving limits to utahs

versed blaze Mar 11, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

because it's under development and not complete

#

We told you that

torpid wedge Mar 11, 2019, 6:07 PM

#

and stegos cant sniff because they aren’t a survival dinosaur

#

literally

#

give it time

versed blaze Mar 11, 2019, 6:07 PM

#

It's a low priority dino, the ones in survival are the ones they are working on the most

torpid wedge Mar 11, 2019, 6:07 PM

#

survival dinos are getting priority ye^

#

and you don’t need to repeat your comments we saw you like two hrs ago lol..

mystic kestrel Mar 11, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

@split granite because they are sandobx dinos

#

not survival

#

thats why

#

they are not complete

#

i suggest playing on official if you want to be actually giving constructive suggestions

#

once they are actually considered for survival gameplay they will be updated...

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 6:11 PM

#

its not about how fast a dino grow that makes it difficult

#

its about how risky it is

#

if a sub or juv rex glows in Q

#

no rex is ever gonna make it even you can grow one in 4 hrs

#

and having high food consumption when growing is exactly what i was trying to say in my suggestion

#

you increase the risk of growing one

#

instead of making it more annoying and time wasting

#

if you think about it

#

7hrs 10usd/hr wages thats 70dollars for a grown rex

#

is that really reasonable?

versed blaze Mar 11, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

Yes, when compared to other games where you invest time

#

Every other game is a time investment, assigning a monetary value is a bit ridiculous

ebon lion Mar 11, 2019, 6:25 PM

#

^^ plus apex are apex!! it seems like it should be difficult to raise one to adulthood imo. i'd rather have to really work for a payoff than have it be handed to me on a platter personally

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 6:34 PM

#

i am ont saying its not fine atm

#

i am just saying it for ones who wanted to lengthen the growth time

#

since people are not doing anything but sitting ther anyways

#

it require time investment yes but it could be more engaging not just watching a tree all day long

#

cus at the end of the day its the experience instead of the things you got out of a game that counts

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 6:46 PM

#

guys would an all mute button be useful for some?

#

sometimes i wanna play solo and fkin nest inv pops up every 4 minutes

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 6:47 PM

#

F3

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 6:47 PM

#

?

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 6:48 PM

#

just F3 whoever spams you

hazy sparrow Mar 11, 2019, 6:48 PM

#

They should attempt to implement a DND (Do Not Disturb) mode

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 6:48 PM

#

fragon explain pls what happens by pressing F3

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 6:48 PM

#

not like there would be ten different nest at once lol

#

but ya

#

a flight mode would help

hazy sparrow Mar 11, 2019, 6:49 PM

#

You block one person at a time @barren zephyr it doesn't solve the problem, only one symptom

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 6:49 PM

#

fucking running in the trees and a invite comes up

barren zephyr Mar 11, 2019, 6:49 PM

#

ye ok that doesnt help at all

#

ye fragon

#

they should rework the appearance of the nest or group inv too big

#

can't see shit

#

but like a private mode would help

misty island Mar 11, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

ya

thorny lynx Mar 11, 2019, 7:11 PM

#

@clear turret Think of a trike with a broken front leg. Would you slam that leg onto the ground if it was broken? That would hurt like a bitch.

clear turret Mar 11, 2019, 7:11 PM

#

no shit sherlock, but the realism card doesnt mean much. This is a video game

thorny lynx Mar 11, 2019, 7:12 PM

#

The point of breaking your leg is so you can't use it effectively

#

Rex breaks Trike leg so it can't stomp

clear turret Mar 11, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

rex gets a lucky bone break, and literally anything that relies on a stomp is food. Cant run, cant fight. why even bother playing anything other than rex then?

thorny lynx Mar 11, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

Because Trike needs a b uff. It's not a rex problem. It's a trike problem

jovial moss Mar 11, 2019, 7:15 PM

#

trike should have bone break to compensate for rex having it

#

kinda unfair that only carnivores have a bone smasher

clear turret Mar 11, 2019, 7:16 PM

#

Who the fuck says I am exclusively refering to trike anyways? literally everything auto loses when rex gets a lucky bonebreak because it also disables alt turn. it is an RNG "I win" button

hazy sparrow Mar 11, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

Such civility...

jovial moss Mar 11, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

lol

oblique sluice Mar 11, 2019, 7:17 PM

#

Then if you are not a trike, don't let the rex bite you