I then swapped skins, died respawned ect. Became the default green skin. Nested in baby dilo, looked identical to the first 1 i nested in
#general-feedback-discussion
barren zephyr
coarse skiff
It's strange
barren zephyr
Indeed, so it doesnt work the way i suggested, if so. That wouldnt be the case :P
coarse skiff
I noticed that babies almost always have at least one color in common with their mother
barren zephyr
Yeah, i havent. In fact that almost never happens for me unless i was nested in myself
coarse skiff
Strange
barren zephyr
And i mean, ive nested in... galis, dilos, dryos, utahs, ceras, trikes, diablos. I feel like im missing one but none the less
coarse skiff
I swear my babus often looks like me, and my skins are really different from default ones
lament thorn
Well the system isn't near finished and we don't have the patriarch yet so I don't mind the simple clone babs
coarse skiff
I think you have maybe not a 50/50 chance but you must have a chance
barren zephyr
Yeah i hope they do expand upon it. But i do feel bad cause most of the clone babies as you refer to, look quite ugly Especially dilos. My main lol
umbral prairie
I think the chance is pretty big, I've been nested as maia a while ago and 2 of my 5 siblings looked the same as the one that nested us
might have been a coincidence tho
barren zephyr
Yeah idk. I just notice, after nesting probably close to 100 children, that 90% of them look simular to eachother. But 100% different from me
lament thorn
Nested 4 utahs all were unique in some way but very similar
coarse skiff
My similar child was a maia too
pseudo falcon
I'm pretty sure it was a coincidence
Because I'll tell you this much
My Maia children never look even remotely like me
WHY IS EVERYONE A WOLF IN THIS DAMN GAME
Excuse me
barren zephyr
Lol
pseudo falcon
Had a moment
coarse skiff
Maybe they made it so some colors are more frequent
Like... they dont want all white or all black dinos
pseudo falcon
The game should detect if your skin has a sort of patern to it
And use similar colors
For example
If body 1 and 3 are the same
lament thorn
All my Utah kids had a greyish Brown bod
pseudo falcon
It should reflect that similarly
barren zephyr
I think it would be just better to give a chance to match the parent or be different, detecting patterns would be difficult
coarse skiff
It should be tested really seriously
pseudo falcon
I also feel like crest and underbelly should always be the same across children
coarse skiff
Why ?
pseudo falcon
It should be the same as their mother's is what I mean
Personally I feel its one of the more important colors to have look the same
Since I like to use trike 2 for my underbelly, it should reflect that across my children
coarse skiff
When patriarch will have a role in mating we should expect something about it
pseudo falcon
Its always frustrating to have a cool looking mom and to be born ugly
lament thorn
Fathers passing their colour to their sons would be cool
barren zephyr
Once patriarchs are in there should only be a 5 or so percent chance to be a different color than your parents
pseudo falcon
Tbh I'm probably the only one who prefered it when people had preset skins
I hate seeing void dinos ans every raptor trying to be albino
It has its upside
But it made maps like grim expanse where you'd have desert style skins really cool
lament thorn
I hate all black or white dinos and people made some god awful skins but I love the system since people are able to feel unique even with only 1 pattern
pseudo falcon
Yeah, but there are more subtle ways to be unique
hollow sorrel
Honestly I'd be okay with certain skin combination automatically getting you booted from the server >.>
pseudo falcon
Lmao
hollow sorrel
Choose all black? Booted.
pseudo falcon
NO UGLY ALLOWED
lament thorn
I agree with this statement
lament thorn
Yesterday I was killed by a mustard Sucho
pseudo falcon
Ew
lament thorn
Never felt more violated in my life
pseudo falcon
Yeah, Maia 4 is the worst color in the game
Imo
Not sure what color it is exactly
As I'm color deficient
But its yellowish lookin and it makes me wanna die
I just hate that beast of bermuda made the Isle feel it was necessary to add skin customization
hollow sorrel
I play with someone who often does a cheese Maia, which I think is pure Maia 4.
pseudo falcon
🤢
hollow sorrel
Ugly. Though admittedly sort of hilarious. Looks like a big hunk of cheese
pseudo falcon
Makes me want to die
There used to be something cool about seeing albino dinos in the Isle
But now everyone is, or they're a weird oreo
leaden night
Albinos were never cool
pseudo falcon
Or they're Melanistic
They may aswell have ported the dark souls character creator into the Isle
coarse shell
what color is giga 5
pseudo falcon
Black
jovial skiff
dark black
coarse shell
ofc
pseudo falcon
Lol
Boy wants his void giga back
Can we just remove the skin editor until they come up with a more interesting way to make your dinos stand out?
pseudo falcon
Not really
Boring is a strong word in this case
If anything its better than having cheetos, melanistic, albinos, and oreos literally everywhere
All thats missing is smurfs
coarse shell
smurfs will be when they add the colors dilo deserves
still waiting on them to add purple/red to that boy since it had it before the skin patch
pseudo falcon
I just wish they'd change it to preset skins
Too much variation ruins immersion lol
And maiammersion is of utmost importance
hollow sorrel
Was in a pack with a Dev recently who was using a mainly blue skin, actually. It actually looked good, though.
hollow sorrel
And I'd admittedly love a purple shade to be honest, as long as it wasn't some neon shit.
pseudo falcon
Pretty sure they're the only one's with access to blue
hollow sorrel
Cerato
hollow sorrel
I'm sure they have access to more colours that are hidden for players.
jovial skiff
wish we can just adjust the shade of the color but be very limited
pseudo falcon
Maia 4
jovial skiff
depending on the color
pseudo falcon
Right
So we can have even uglier skin combinations
Cant wait to see that glowing yellow cheeto
pseudo falcon
Right
hollow sorrel
Now, we are talking about reptilian-like animals here so vibrant colours do make sense to an extent.
Again, unless they are neon
pseudo falcon
I just want to make my maia look like the one in the trailer tbh
The new default maia skin looks ugly af
coarse shell
i just wanted to see the edge-o-rexes gone
pseudo falcon
Lol
glass blaze
@open flax It was actually the opposite in real life, though, at least for the big dinos like T-Rex.
coarse shell
@open flax you're supposed to reply to suggestions here bro
analog ingot
think ppl missunderstood my suggestion lmao
open flax
Sorry. Meant to reply here.
pure copper
Why would all theropods grow feathers with age
coarse shell
@lone hatch spino is irrelevant
pure copper
That’s not how integument works
open flax
Simply an aesthetic to suggest.
lone hatch
@coarse shell why
lament thorn
It's not a survival dino
open flax
Maybe even have it as an option when you select your dino's color scheme.
coarse shell
because its still in sandbox
it wont be coming to survival until muuuuch later on
thats when the devs will actually care about its turn radius
pseudo falcon
Tell that to camara
And Spino has been said to be coming to survival
So a few reworks rn wouldn't hurt
It would actually be really healthy for testing
analog ingot
Cama is closer than spino and theres other work to be done before spino I guess.
jovial skiff
stego
pseudo falcon
You wish
coarse shell
because they're injected
pseudo falcon
Stego is dead
coarse shell
lol
jovial skiff
Stegosaurus is not dead
lone hatch
wow
pseudo falcon
Yes
jovial skiff
its getting a remodel hehehe
pseudo falcon
It actually is
lone hatch
but they should do something
pseudo falcon
@lone hatch the servers where that is allowed, allow all sandbox dinos to be played on survival
Frankly to my dismay I don't see shant getting tweekes anytime soon
Spino is eligible to be given a few tweeks so it can be messed around with before they start discussing how they want it to be introduced
Pretty sure thats why camara was given anything
lone hatch
no shit
lone crypt
Stego is the most fun herbivore, change my mind
leaden night
@lone crypt Dryo
hollow sorrel
Dryo, Stego, Anky, Taco, Dibble, and Para are all pretty good competitors for that title
I like the idea of Dryos and Tacos storing food, though in a Q&A the devs said they don't plan on food storage being a thing.
But in the case of Taco I almost think it would be needed.
jolly willow
ive seen plenty of comments on the dinosaur teeth being perfect prestine colgate white being weird lol
lone crypt
I like the teeth on the second picture of the croc teeth
Not too white, but still white
jolly willow
ye
They just need some like
yellow/grime, maybe some red to represent blood on carns
Just don't be prestine white
thats weird lol
lone crypt
mmm
hazy sparrow
Dilo wasn't a venom spitter, that is movie magic Jurassic Park put in.
lone crypt
Yes ^^^
ocean vortex
Spitting cobra?
hazy sparrow
Well like komodo dragon, dilo could have a poison bite, but I don't think it should get a ranged attack
The bleed pretty much covers it anyway
coarse shell
@void sun so, 3 call?
normal fern
Incoming wall of text trying to justify a stupid idea
coarse shell
it's not a stupid idea, it's just... pointless
void sun
@Prophet Somewhat, the 3 call is like an aggressive roar, but im talking like snarling teeth and growls, but what ever just an idea.
coarse shell
3 and 5 call is basically the same thing here. it's aggressive. the only difference is how its done
i'd like it to be in-game too, its nice, but it doesnt have any point
void sun
It does, like a back off warning, and not a fight engaging call, but i see your point too
coarse shell
a back off warning could also be used with the 3 call my dude
a lot of people threaten people away with the 3 call, but they dont necessarily fight
hollow marlin
Does anyone know if the ankylosaur will be remodeled?
west willow
Not that ik of or heard
drowsy granite
bring the acro to the survival
jolly willow
Acro doesn't really deserve to be in survival
Giga already has its niche and I don't think you could really balance it around that/to fit in midtier as a psuedo apex slash bridge between apex/midtier.
We don't need more bleeders
Especially a big one
We just got done fixing up giga lol
compact matrix
jolly willow
ye
drowsy granite
haha
coarse shell
@fickle iris it... does give more food than an oro?
clever leaf
Spino and Herrera are kinda the only carnivores left that I see actually have reasoning to come in
Add those two and you'd basically have 10 carnivores
3 small, 4 medium, 3 big
hazy sparrow
@light oak Like a dinosaur hippo?
barren zephyr
The aquatic Parasaurolophus theory is like 50 years old lol
light oak
Nobody said aquatic, i just suggested that boosting it's swimming skills, as is accepted Irl, could help make a difference between Maia and para
Also, herbs needs some love
barren zephyr
If youre going to give it the upper hand in the water
that already ='s to semi aquatic
Besides, maia is getting something correlating to nesting last I heard, para was some sort of healing buff in a group
maia has a higher chance of its ability holding through, but I don't know if plans have changed for para
light oak
Man, offcourse thinking that paras crest served as snorkel is an antique idea, you are adding nothing to the discussion. But is prettt well known that most para species we're atleast good swimmers, it's basically deducted from the configuration of their rear legs and tail, also, the sites where fossils were found.
wintry cipher
@rancid atlas you just have to hover over the dino. it shows the name in the bar on the bottom right.
replays are broken though so not sure if that feature works
sweet oasis
The entire replay system needs to be redone anyway.
It's severely outdated and working on broken code.
wintry cipher
mhm
rancid atlas
Im not saying it needs to happen right away xD, all im saying is that if it's a dense forest, finding people would be very difficult
wintry cipher
there is a "people" button you can click on to teleport to the nearest(?) dino i think. perhaps just pause it and keep clicking that
rancid atlas
just had a recent problem where an admin told me to locate 5 people in the area that was supposed to be in a fight, I was able to locate 3 by just flying around looking, but nametags would let me know exactly where people would be (example)
I tried that button btw
wintry cipher
true. it would also help griefers who record, then hop off to check the recording
rancid atlas
kept tping me to other dinos far away
rancid atlas
that is true, but there must be a way to prevent that
just need to think about it
put some great minds at it
preventing it on official might be difficult, but non official servers should be able to manage that
hazy sparrow
Replays don't currently work on Official
for the reason of griefing ^ I was told by a tester
rancid atlas
then there would be no problems as admins on unofficial could make rules
coarse shell
@rancid atlas pressing the "del" button by the num pad(if you have one) shows names
versed blaze
Not all servers have that on though.......
rancid atlas
clearly, didn't work that that server
glass blaze
@knotty wadi Dilo isn't meant to 1v1 a Rex, and a pack doesn't have to out-turn it.
coarse shell
@glass blaze they never said they were 1v1ing a rex though. they were comparing turn radiuses
the fact that a rex that's handicapped out turns a dilo is kind of ridiculous
jolly willow
literally why is a dilos turn radius even so bad
idk why they gave it such a bad turn radius
its mainly in the forests and thus needs better turning to excel through trees
dapper quail
Dilo can out turn a rex, press z or whatever key is bound to walk.
coarse shell
@cinder dew that used to be a thing, but the channel was so cluttered and they couldnt answer so many questions at once that they had to make it into a weekly and now biweekly thing
cinder dew
Ah, okay. Thanks!
stray citrus
@barren zephyr Sucho did get a swimming animation not sure what you're on about
hazy sparrow
Austro and Bary got updates didn't they?
"Adjustments to swimming for Austroraptor and Baryonyx" Patch 0.1.52.8 26 FEB @ 7:30AM
onyx stump
I'm sure that there's a lot of new dinosaurs out there and they're all unique and cool in their own way, but asking "Please add [insert random dead thing] into the game" with no explanation isn't helpful. @barren zephyr @ripe karma @barren zephyr
@hazy sparrow I guess somebody doesn't like assassin classes?
hasty parcel
The current Dilo in The Isle has a kind of venom
It's been stated that's why it does so much bleeding
onyx stump
Nice meme, in game its suppose to have an anti-coagulated venom in its saliva (like monitor lizards).
spiral pond
Wait Utahs have god fall dmg resistance
torpid wedge
not anymore
spiral pond
I though they did
It got removed again ?
@rough dove also no, herbivore have it way harder to survive since their food doesn’t literally spawn into their mouths and have to actually try to find food, also why wouldn’t herbivores kill juvi carnivores ? They will grow up down the line and kill them, natural selection, and also making them lose food quickly would make it impossible to migrate since there are completely barren spots on map where there is NO food whatsoever
And make it unenjoyable to play
hasty parcel
Trikes are already quite hungry at adult stage as far as I can remember
spiral pond
Make dryo hunger 5 mins so when it rains there are coarpse everywhere 
frail prawn
The Dyro sounds need to be muffled under ground thats for sure.
And Bajadasaurus isnt a bad looking Sauropod, small and unique looking.
umbral prairie
I hope that in like a year or so there will be hadrosaur and sauropod AI for the apexes
umbral prairie
I would expect both hadro and sauropod AI to spawn randomly
umbral prairie
I've made a suggestion for hadrosaur AI recently, idk if it would work like it does in my mind though
glass blaze
@cinder anchor Maybe a 30 second invulnerability when spawning/logging in would do the trick.
That's about how long I need to fully load everything.
cinder anchor
Yeah
Problem is someone would find a way to abuse it
Or you could just take away the persons ability to attack during that time
torpid wedge
or you could just be smarter about where you log out.... lol
glass blaze
There's a way to abuse just about anything. Doesn't make it a bad idea.
cinder anchor
I know, never said it was a bad idea
What I said could be abused
And I get the whole "be smarter about where you log out" but I still don't think its fair to say that as even in a safe location if one is unlucky enough you will die
versed blaze
Y'all just need to wait until after the recode when things get optimized
Everything will change.................
torpid wedge
but if there’s an invuln
people could log in straight in the open in popular spaces and get away with it
versed blaze
If loading takes that long then I'm guessing you're well under the minimum hardware requirement.......
umbral prairie
It wouldn't really make rex gameplay harder if it's hunger was increased, It would just be more annoying
It would make the gameplay less of an afk sitting in a bush gameplay though
candid quiver
The root of the problem is how easy it is to afk grow, there needs to be a way to detect afkers, like with scent
hazy sparrow
Well the longer an animal stays in one place, the more it's stench will linger...
coarse shell
@ebon heart coming soon after the code overhaul
ebon heart
clever leaf
the damage and mass buff were good enough for the current time being, tbh
Just gotta hope those values stay that way
mystic kestrel
honestly its more about his movement
how the hell a forest dino can't turn on a dime
not saying dryo levels of turn
or raptor
but slighty better
so i can bite for example allo and turn around before he bites me
barren zephyr
That's the thing
polar juniper
Dilo's ambush is fine speed wise
barren zephyr
I don't really see dilo as a forest animal due to his below average turn radius, just a night time nightmare
polar juniper
All it really needs is that turn radius buff
barren zephyr
but since gamma is apparently still an issue, once something comes along to fix that dilo should be good
obviously not perfect though
the thing has got to have some flaws to balance out its perks
onyx stump
I don't like how the answer to most of the balancing in The Isle is "Buff [insert dino]". Like I think Dilo has a bit of an identity problem right now.
oblique sluice
Dilo don't have any identity problem, he just needs back the darker night and increase his turn radius, then it will be perfect
clever leaf
venom just simply big bleed
oblique sluice
@cinder dew just juke the carno
cinder dew
True, while you can do that, it can be very difficult to avoid one, especially in a clearing.
oblique sluice
then don't go in open fields
cinder dew
XD
oblique sluice
it's so simple
torpid wedge
also you can see carnos if you're in a clearing
like from far away
carno v utah is very evenly matched imo
onyx stump
When a dinosaurs's gameplay is practically the same as another dinosaurs's, I think that calls for a reevaluation of what role you want it to fill in the ecosystem. I have problems with Giga, Allo, Cerato, and Dilo right now. They all look to be the same dinosaur with varying sizes and skins. I think Cerato and Dilo are easy fixes, have Cerato be a tanky garbage disposal that doesn't do much damage, and have Dilo be a rogue assassin picking off people in the middle of the night.
@oblique sluice
clever leaf
Dilo really just needs the nights to be actually dark and then having its actual venom (rather than just currently big bleed) to gain its uniqueness
keeping in mind it seems like the actual gimmicks may not happen until after code wiping
barren zephyr
the mechanics that make each dinosaur special should fix that, red is right
oblique sluice
dilo does that rogue assasin role lol, it just needs the night darker
barren zephyr
letting cerato not be punished by cannibalism by default as well as bone eating, giga getting flesh grazing, allo getting whatever the fucks planned for it
oblique sluice
allo will do hugs
barren zephyr
etc etc
oblique sluice
meaty claws hugs
onyx stump
I feel like more can be done to differentiate these dinosaurs rather then just making night darker. I'm talking about actual game play. When you're fighting a dilo, I want it to feel different compared to fighting a cerato. To make it feel different you need to have different survival strategies for them.
oblique sluice
Huh, i think you put the worst comparative with cerato in your argument
i mean
cerato is nothing like dilo
cerato is like a kamikaze with his high raw damage
allo it's a mix between those 2
clever leaf
cerato still needs a bleed resistance buff
oblique sluice
agree with that
clever leaf
it wouldn't really be so much a hit-and-run boy like dilo
compact coyote
onyx stump
I think all four of them occupy the same niche, the only differing thing being their final size and stats. I don't see the difference in their gameplay.
waxen elk
@cinder dew Austro has shitty sandbox stats
That's why it gets one shot killed by everything in the game
cinder dew
Yeah. I was suggesting a health boost/damage boost
cinder dew
Yeah. . . I feel like if they were about the same, but Austro was faster with less stamina they may be pretty similar with an equal number of players for both
true haven
@brazen wolf btw it has low stams why should it has low speed too , not fair
it is balance right now
brazen wolf
Rex is too fast Typhoon and It has decent stemina. It hard for other dinos to survive
brazen wolf
dont only think of rex . first of all its not suppose to run as fast as allo
compard to its siz
it should be some what same as giga
Rex is op right now
true haven
rex has low stam
brazen wolf
noo it runs prety far
true haven
i play para and i outrun rex super ez
true haven
i played rex too
versed blaze
Rex stam drains faster than almost everything else
true haven
it has low stams
versed blaze
Drains as fast as a juvie anything
brazen wolf
it does not matter
true haven
it is matter
brazen wolf
it shoud not be as fast as allo
brazen wolf
it's not realistic
true haven
coz tail bite
brazen wolf
no he wont
true haven
it is GAMEPLAY > REALISM
brazen wolf
he is strong then giga
true haven
he will
brazen wolf
rex will distroy giga
true haven
if
brazen wolf
so rex is big
true haven
facetank
brazen wolf
it should not run as fast as allo
true haven
dont nerf it speed
brazen wolf
nerf its speed it's a plague
true haven
ok nerf it
brazen wolf
rex everywehre
true haven
increase it stams
shut gale
apexes don't need more stam
versed blaze
It's not a plague because of speed
shut gale
all apexes should have 30-60 secs of stam imo
brazen wolf
Rex should not be running that fast
shut gale
learn to use your stam wisely
brazen wolf
Rex is op
versed blaze
Um, that's the very definition of Apex
true haven
so we need nerf both apex
shut gale
^ agree x)
brazen wolf
giga is already in bad spot
shut gale
slowing down the rex and taking down the giga damage a bit
true haven
it is not
shut gale
so if 2 gigas see a rex they can't just run at it and bite it down...
true haven
😦
shut gale
should be nerfed a bit more imo raptor
true haven
yeah
shut gale
so it actually has to bleed the rex down...
torpid wedge
taking down giga damage?
true haven
yes
brazen wolf
how come giga is a big dino
torpid wedge
so it’s more fucked against a rex?
brazen wolf
i think bite force is ok
true haven
yes
shut gale
shiro if the rex is slower
shut gale
you don't get fuked by the rex
torpid wedge
idk with bb
brazen wolf
rex and giga same size
shut gale
you bite the rex ass twice
true haven
if rex is slower fuck the rex
shut gale
and it bleeds out
true haven
they do right now
brazen wolf
really fast
true haven
the difference is small
jolly willow
rex and giga are fairly equal right now
brazen wolf
no funsu
true haven
yeah it is equal
jolly willow
it just depends on getting the drop on either or
brazen wolf
giga has no chance
brazen wolf
so decrease rex speed
brazen wolf
rex will break it's leg before doing any bleed damage
jolly willow
rex has high speed bc it has horrible stamina
brazen wolf
it's not fair
true haven
if it dont
true haven
yeah that s right
torpid wedge
giga has bleed sure but you don’t die from bleed if you sit, bb and damage prevail waaay more
brazen wolf
haha
brazen wolf
rex is faster
shut gale
ik
brazen wolf
how can dodge mouth
jolly willow
giga has excellent turn radius
true haven
need to stop completly
brazen wolf
giga is in bad spot
brazen wolf
funsu comom
shut gale
2 gigas can run down a rex
brazen wolf
it's a apex
true haven
have u play giga
shut gale
and just spam bite it and kill it
brazen wolf
1 will defenitly die
true haven
no
shut gale
hm no
true haven
it will not
jolly willow
giga 1v1'ng rex is at least CLOSE to a 50/50 right now
shut gale
before someone dies
brazen wolf
just decrease rex speed
true haven
yeah its true
jolly willow
The only issue is BB and thats getting reworked
brazen wolf
then they will be fine
true haven
decrease the speed
jolly willow
uncle
versed blaze
I hate conversations about how if peoples dinos don't wreck face something needs to be nerfed. Sigh.
true haven
but increase the stam regen when stiting
jolly willow
rex has good speed because it has horrible stamina
thats its catch lol
it cant regain stam without sitting its ass down
shut gale
ok problem if you decrease the rex speed and leave the giga damage like that is:
-2 gigas can outstam a rex and just bite the shit out of it and kill it in 8 secs
brazen wolf
and faster regain stam
shut gale
the rex will not stand a chance
jolly willow
rex with decreased speed would be bleh
brazen wolf
but speed has to be same as giga
brazen wolf
so it's speed shoud almost be the same
shut gale
and the giga trot is faster
true haven
u play in survival
brazen wolf
it's just the matter of survival
versed blaze
you can't do that
brazen wolf
for all dino
versed blaze
If you think trot and stam don't matter you're playing incorrectly
shut gale
and its still op...
brazen wolf
nurf speed
jolly willow
ok
brazen wolf
it should not be as fast as allo
shut gale
but thats just my opinion 🤷🏿
brazen wolf
allo having a difficult time
jolly willow
maybe
brazen wolf
hunger is fine
true haven
hungry juvie
jolly willow
a very fatal mistake
shut gale
both sub giga and rex need to be nerfed / worked on
jolly willow
yeah
shut gale
and both adults aswell
brazen wolf
apex are lucky to get hunger buff
true haven
obviously it is prepared to something
shut gale
that's how you stop the plague...
true haven
or make token gaha XD
shut gale
^
jovial arch
maybe make it 7s
jolly willow
eehhh
true haven
hahahaha
jolly willow
i dont think rex deserves the ambush time buff
brazen wolf
ya . but decrease he base speed it's too fast
jolly willow
rex can get that shit done within that time
if you fail the hunt well you failed the hunt
thats on you
brazen wolf
ambush should be able to catch giga base speed
true haven
rework apex how
shut gale
rex slower but can catch gigas in ambush
giga less damage so it can't just run down rexes
in pairs*
shut gale
sub rex could be slower aswell but still be strong
shut gale
and the sub giga be fast but not as astrong
brazen wolf
Have you seen the size of Giga. imop bite force matched it's size
they were supposed to be as strong as rex
shut gale
but bleed barely comes into account in those fights...
jolly willow
Size does not link to bite force
shut gale
^
jolly willow
Rex IRL had a bite force of 12,800 pounds
Giga IRL had a bite force of 35586 N (8000 pounds)
versed blaze
Bite force is all about head and jaw structure, NOT size
jolly willow
^
brazen wolf
still it's not realistic
jolly willow
Saltwater crocs arent very big and have a bite force of 16,460 newtons
brazen wolf
any way dont care about the bite force but the Rex speed shoud go
jovial arch
giga
true haven
need to be work on
jovial arch
they are talking about giga
shut gale
@brazen wolf if you make it a bite force dino its just another rex....
marsh dune
I'm actually a giga main on pangaea
shut gale
there's not alot of mechanics to make dinos different
true haven
yeah it is fair
marsh dune
Giga vs Rex can be either way
true haven
have u seen giga hunt camara
jolly willow
Giga is the sprinter and bleeder. Rex is an ambush predator and a crusher
true haven
its bleed it out
brazen wolf
make it sho it could fight
true haven
nooot that
brazen wolf
everyone is playing rex
shut gale
see ponk
jolly willow
If you think about it rex and giga have no competition because most of the time apexes avoid eachother.
shut gale
thats what i would like to see....
jolly willow
People don't wanna waste their 6 hours
marsh dune
Except rexes like to eat gigas
jolly willow
Less they're in a group
jolly willow
People have been playing rex a lot more along w/ giga
brazen wolf
if rex sees giga what happens?
brazen wolf
rex will go after giga
jovial arch
yeah
true haven
i run away
marsh dune
Rex follows
true haven
as rex
jolly willow
The only issue I see between Rex and Gigas matchup rn is BB and that'll be reworked eventually
true haven
thats u
jovial arch
i really only play sucho anymore because titan exists
otherwise i wouldn't even play
jovial arch
well
brazen wolf
Rex are looking for giga
jovial arch
it's actually not rng
brazen wolf
if they see them they rush
marsh dune
But if the Rex has no Stam and giga is BB
jolly willow
It's a coinflip
brazen wolf
toward giga
jovial arch
rex has 100% bb on everything but apexes
brazen wolf
giga should get bb too
marsh dune
Nehhh
jolly willow
that's
marsh dune
No
brazen wolf
compared to size
jovial arch
it doesn't need it
marsh dune
XD
true haven
nah
jovial arch
it has bleed
marsh dune
Giga already does bleed
true haven
we need locational damage
true haven
to not make it rng
jolly willow
Rex did
brazen wolf
give bleed to rex and bb to giga
jolly willow
what the fuck
brazen wolf
jk
jolly willow
ok good
true haven
😃
marsh dune
I'd say increase giga bleed so it doesn't do just 12 bleed to a rex
brazen wolf
bb is the ultimate death
marsh dune
Ive never been able to actually bleed out a rex
marsh dune
I always have to go in and get in more bites
true haven
LOCATIONAL DAMAGE IS THE FIX one day
jovial arch
oh yeah
marsh dune
I will not get bitten on my tail and instantly break my leg
brazen wolf
bleed out will not work if rex is faster . giga shouldbe faster
jovial arch
i think dropping bleed is bugged, or at least it is for ava
brazen wolf
to bleed out
marsh dune
Location damage is gonna be awesome
true haven
just stop
brazen wolf
rex is much faster then giga
true haven
it is not worth it
marsh dune
Raptor sh
jovial arch
i would be fine with giving giga more bleed and trike more bleed res
true haven
okthen
marsh dune
Id like to do at least 15 bleed to a Rex as giga
jovial arch
but let rex beat trike anyway
marsh dune
Not 11.9
true haven
yeah
marsh dune
XD
cyan flame
Ery, are you talking about how much bleed damage the rex takes or?
cyan flame
Oh okay, was a bit confused there, is that at 100 bleed?
jovial arch
how did you get this number
oh
you're talking in the character screen
man
that shit is confusing the crap out of everyone
that's not telling you your actual bleed
marsh dune
O.o
jovial arch
that's telling you your bleed modified by your bleed resistance
marsh dune
Ooooh
jovial arch
at the time of your checking
marsh dune
Weird
brazen wolf
before rex was slower then giga . soo it was so much fun to fight it
shut gale
tbh i think its too forgiving to trade hits
cyan flame
Ery, we could go test on a deathmatch
jovial arch
so what that's actually telling you is how much bleed damage you're taking while standing still
you take different values while trotting, running, and sitting
shut gale
when you go in to bite you should do your best to avoid trading....
marsh dune
I'm raising a giga right now because I lost it in a 2 rex v2 giga :(
brazen wolf
but when rex got super boos speed they forgot to boost speed for other dinos
now they all suffering
marsh dune
Oh I seee
marsh dune
Makes sense
I just want to be able to be a bleeder
Not have to bite a rex 5-7 times
9 is high enough
marsh dune
Bite twice and the rex is just fine
cyan flame
Then you wait/harass as long as possible
marsh dune
He runs away 😂
jovial arch
yeah, 3 hits off a giga is definitely 3 bleed
shut gale
2 hits is 100 bleed
cyan flame
He ain't running with max bleed if he want's to live ,and hey, where is he going to run?..
cyan flame
Short run time, just follow.. :p
jovial arch
the rex is gonna try to kill you
brazen wolf
bleed is broken .
marsh dune
Yeah I chased him and his buddy caught up to me and killed me
jovial arch
if i were the rex i'd trot into a forest and then just ambush
shut gale
how is bleed broken? xD
jovial arch
ez
brazen wolf
you cannot relai on bleed if your opponent is faster
versed blaze
Everything is broken, it's a work in progress early access game
brazen wolf
you will get ko
jovial arch
bleed is actually broken, but i'd say it's mainly broken because of bleed heal tick rate
brazen wolf
bleed only work if you faster
cyan flame
Well if there were two rexes, then you were in trouble, but you should be able to bleed it out, two hits is max, since you weight more and do 50 base, so
jovial arch
which again more confusing math
brazen wolf
sooo bleed is out of question
jovial arch
that basically means bleed can do +/- 40% damage to you
brazen wolf
no value
cyan flame
Just have to hit it, and make sure you're out of run range for long enough
marsh dune
Rex kills giga in 5-6 bites
brazen wolf
just like dillo having no darknihg
true haven
its biye speed
brazen wolf
it's no use
cyan flame
Yeh, before the nerf the giga could just facetank.. speaking of, is the bitespeed unchanged?
shut gale
the game would be so much more fun if it wasn't based of trading hits.... (in some match ups)
brazen wolf
ask dillo players
marsh dune
Bitespeed is still the same for giga
brazen wolf
how is bleed working out for them
jovial arch
now in combat i sit with a timer in front of me and do calculations before i go in
brazen wolf
right now speed is all that matters
jovial arch
it's honestly kinda dumb
brazen wolf
in life and death
marsh dune
Right now I can ambush a rex and maybe land two bites and hopefully get away
jovial arch
pachy is too fast
marsh dune
Everyone goes rex
cyan flame
Threetails, the heck are you calculating? :p
brazen wolf
who want to rase a 6hour dino to get massacared
jovial arch
maia needs a stat recomp
marsh dune
because rex destroys everything
cyan flame
Eh.. I got done in by two gigas, did get one of them though :p
shut gale
i'm a giga player that stoped playing it.... cause they changed how apex fights worked...
jovial arch
i've already done most of the math
cyan flame
But they were not the smartest and I did force them into some unfavourable terrain :p
jovial arch
so i just sit there with a timer
marsh dune
If they nerf giga one more time im leaving the isle for GOOD
jovial arch
and then p much abuse game mechanics
marsh dune
😂
jovial arch
and how bleed works
brazen wolf
rex speed messed it up
jovial arch
do get extra damage
shut gale
@marsh dune do you like to run at stuff and spam bite? or kiting?
cyan flame
Not sure what there is to "abuse", the longer you bleed, the more damage you take? :p
shut gale
one was rex the other was the giga before...
cyan flame
? :p
jovial arch
it's actually really easy
true haven
kiting of course
brazen wolf
funsu how does it feel to be a giga
shut gale
i used to play giga when it was "shit"
jovial arch
and then i go in 5 seconds before i heal
cyan flame
You mean like timing when you recover to rest at that moment or so? :p
brazen wolf
after 6 hours
jovial arch
that way i take bleed and then immediately heal
marsh dune
@shut gale My favorite part about the giga is kiting, running in/out, draining the rex's stam, breaking leg and still biting their azz 😂
cyan flame
Such fancy tricks :p
brazen wolf
you get spot by rex to get murderend
jovial arch
which minimizes the damage to me
shut gale
@marsh dune ok thats what you would do if the rex was slower
and the giga bite was bit lower
jovial arch
there are other tactics you can use
shut gale
you couldnt' go in to spam bite him
cyan flame
Eh, the skill with the rex would be in the ambush, rather than the hit/run harassing :p
marsh dune
yeah spam bite doesn't work
brazen wolf
rex is no fun to play it's a bull dozer
marsh dune
oh yes for sure
shut gale
well raptor some peopel like that
marsh dune
I kill lots of rexes with 2 gigas vs 1 rex :3
shut gale
yea
marsh dune
circle the poor thing and they have 0 chance
cyan flame
Ery, thats why you make sure not to be in the open so they can't do that :p
marsh dune
Yeah
I want to be able to have a better chance of winning in a 2 rex vs 2 giga fight though
that's my only complaint
shut gale
if the rex was slower but the bite force was enough to keep 2 gigas at bay
marsh dune
haven't won one yet
shut gale
you could still kite the rex but not be cocky enough to face tank him
jolly willow
If rex was slower nobody would play him
cyan flame
Well, not sure on that, I think in equal numbers, the rexes would and probably should win, the gigas should probably need one more to counter it
jovial arch
actually
cyan flame
But then I see the giga as "pack"hunters more than rexes so
jovial arch
rex should have a considerable advantage in 2 v 2
shut gale
@jolly willow if it as a good ambush its fine...
jovial arch
just logically
shut gale
yeah
marsh dune
Yeah I get that
jolly willow
If you outstam a rex in a 1v1 as giga then its fucked
cyan flame
So two rexes would "equal" three gigas then
jolly willow
And you can easily do that
jovial arch
think about it, in 2 v 2 rexes bb and then just target one down
jolly willow
2 v 2 is weird
IMO BB is like
the only real issue
between giga and rexes matchup rn
shut gale
yeah agree
cyan flame
I think most of us are unhappy with the rng :p
jovial arch
it's only rng vs trike and giga tho
shut gale
but still think the rex speed and giga damage need to be tuned down
cyan flame
It's not fun in rex vs rex either for that matter ^^
Nah, it can happen in rex vs rex too, no guarantee you break each others leg :p
jovial arch
ok
jolly willow
Maybe
shut gale
rex could have the same thing as the giga
50 bb instead of bleed
2 bites in an apex = bb
cyan flame
Could be interesting to try out at least :p
jovial arch
man
people downvoting slow down rex
i've still yet to hear a convincing arguement
other than
shut gale
those are rex players...
jovial arch
1 you deserve to die, and 2 it is an ambush
cyan flame
Eh, I think the rex can be faster than the giga, but perhaps less so
shut gale
being bias
cyan flame
So it's a much shorter reaction time
Giving the giga more chance to keep the distance needed to stay safe
marsh dune
I used to main rex but it got tooo powerful
shut gale
@marsh dune did you play giga before the buffs?
shut gale
both rex and giga buffs*
shut gale
hm it was not but ... xD
marsh dune
it was a joke to be a giga