light oak
I wouldnt limit herbs either, they already have a bad deal
#general-feedback-discussion
violet magnet
@wild wolf rexes are meant to be ambush predators, so they have to get very close to prey before attacking it and bonebreak helps to ensure a meal
they're not pursuit predators, they can only sprint for 30 seconds before having to stop and regen stam
heavy tulip
Buff trike weight or biteforce
steady cosmos
Should post that in #general-feedback
midnight rover
gigas are very unbalanced @floral plover they are to good
floral plover
I agree with the turn radius xD.
Doesn't deserve that turn radius.
If they nerf the turn radius Giga should be good without damage nerf.
midnight rover
like its got to the point i dont wanna play anymore cause i get fucking destroyed by gigas, Gigas are all u see
waxen elk
Giga is OP and that's a fact
It needs a nerf in either weightmass or damage
tbh both
It can keep the bleed
barren zephyr
@floral plover are aware that cerato has no turn radius
nor does it have a turn animation
so you thinking its good is wrong
and it will most likely be changed
i agree pachy needs help
but using cerato who is literally unfinished is a horrible example
floral plover
Many balance updates came out, and it doesn't look unfinished to me.
Does it look like it is to u
Plus Utah has god turn too.
floral plover
Never said it was balanced.
floral plover
Balance updates as in stat changes, and Cera got some in those updates but never lost the godly turn radius?
barren zephyr
it has no turn animations
floral plover
Not every balance updates make things balanced btw.
floral plover
Ask the devs don't ask me.
cyan flame
What do you mean?.. :p
floral plover
Clearly it has a turn animation to me.
cyan flame
The cerato does turn? It has a walk, like any other?
floral plover
It was a suggestion and I really don't have the time to discuss it with u, it was an opinion, and will stay there nothing is gonna change my mind.
cyan flame
I think it even has "walk anim" for the alt turn, unlike most others, it doesn't just "spin"? :p
floral plover
Until I see some herb buffs and not only carnis buffs.
barren zephyr
all im saying
its cerato was a bad example
cus the body its self doesnt turn, its slides left when u turn left
there is no animation for turning
not alt turning
floral plover
Just a question, Cerato has a turn animation just like a Utah.
A walk animation.
And I'm outties bye
cyan flame
It does? Must have missed the sliding.. I'll go check it out later :p
cyan flame
I don't know, but I never noticed anything that weird with its walk turn.. but apparently it slides?
waxen elk
It doesn't pivot in alt turn
It doesn't have an Alt turn frame
It plays the walk animation
Leave Cerato's turn as it is
barren zephyr
it has no turn radius
waxen elk
Otherwise it will get fucked by the first big carnivore that ambushed it
vestal rune
yes it does?
waxen elk
Literally what the fuck?
vestal rune
"no turn radius" literally makes no sense
cyan flame
Well of course it has a turn radius, it does turn "around", even if the animation might be wonky, it does turn..
vestal rune
if it had none that means it wouldn't be able to turn
waxen elk
And would walk in a straight line forever
barren zephyr
thank you for taking what i said literally and not applying any of your own common sense
it turns on a extremely sharp angle that is not only unbalanced for the game but looks bad and unifinished
cyan flame
Seems to me the turn is just fine.. :p
vestal rune
well the only other option is that it doesn't have a turn "limiter" and it would just instantly turn in every direction
which is wrong too
'caus it clearly doesn't
waxen elk
This makes absolutely no sense
cyan flame
I have no idea what it looks like you to, but it looks fine to me :p
vestal rune
Cerato is only unbalanced on no alt turn servers lmao
waxen elk
Allo can still catch it if it's not retarded
vestal rune
ye?
waxen elk
As for "looking bad and unfinished"
Most of Cerato's animations look like they need some tweaks
vestal rune
also I'm testing it now and it doesn't even look that bad
maybe it's because I'm using my own camera which is constantly moving but still
waxen elk
Such as playing it's walk when it alt turns
It has a very sharp turn yes
But that's so it can juke shit
Because if anything bigger gets you
You're pretty much fucked
Cerato can't deal with bleed
At all
Ah yes
vestal rune
wasn't cerato meant to keep it's insane bleed resistance? lol
barren zephyr
^
barren zephyr
Zesk is invalid at this point
vestal rune
that's not a point, it doesn't have it now lmao
waxen elk
How the fuck am i invalid?
barren zephyr
ive shrugged off many attacks from other ceratos , carnos , sub gigas
waxen elk
Because it bleeds forever
barren zephyr
u just changed the topic to its resistance
waxen elk
As an example
cyan flame
In any case, the cera turn is fine, most things should have that turn, and we wouldnt need alt :p
waxen elk
Of why it's meant to juke
barren zephyr
it turns so it cant handle bleed?
its fast
the few things that can catch it you can fight
and the others
ur faster then
you dont need to juke
literally dead convo the person i came here to speak with has left
waxen elk
Ambush
waxen elk
Ok
waxen elk
This got nowhere and started getting attacked for nothing
vestal rune
didn't clarify any point, just used ad hominiems
waxen elk
Fuck off
waxen elk
Literally was explaining why Ceratosaurus has a sharp turn
waxen elk
No wonder they're on strike 2
vestal rune
ikr
waxen elk
Point is easy to understand and doesn't requiere heavy thinking
Cerato has agility and speed to escape larger carnivores, because if it get's caught (ambush) it relies on it's sharper turns to avoid attacks
Because once Cerato is bleeding, your hopes of survival start to drop
barren zephyr
so after readin the convo over to see the "ad hominiems" parts fire mentioned
i did start off wrong
waxen elk
Ok
barren zephyr
try not to cuss so much during conversations
waxen elk
Anyway
hazy sparrow
Just read, it says "invited to nest" / "invited to group" -- the pop up stays on screen for at least 10 seconds, which is more than enough time to comprehend it. Accepting invites from random people, anyway, is a good way to get eaten.
wintry cipher
^
barren zephyr
^^
pseudo falcon
@slate phoenix How dare you try and limit the amount of Maias 😠
native nebula
Nest invites and group invites are using the same system currently so there's not a huge amount we can do to differentiate them, i've made a couple of small tweaks that might help things but will have to test to see if they work properly. Ideally we'll be able to get some kind of warning in there for accepting nest invites in the future (though that'd be quite a while away). That said, people really should take more than a glance when a popup appears.
spiral pond
- locational damage and bone break will happen before anky will get bonebreak again
- just no, it would just destroy anything it touches
slate phoenix
@pseudo falcon sorry us1 Maia pack 😂
pseudo falcon
Lol I wish, I should be the Maiafia boss on US 1 by the end of the month though. Don't you dare put pack limits on m'maia before then 😡
silent stream
Can people stop suggesting Apex carnivores to get buffed? they are super strong for what they are and their weaknesses are what stops the servers from getting filled with Apexes.
thorny lynx
But... they're filled with apexes, anyway
silent stream
@ripe karma It's an isle not an arena
nocturne blaze
@midnight orchid devs already answered your suggestion in #519931024956850187
midnight orchid
oh! ty 😃
crystal turret
They should make a 3rd game mode. Sandbox to limit to survival dinos just no juvies effectively what we have now. And a lawl mode where all the dinos are selectable.
vestal rune
possibly instead of reducing the hatchling phase, maybe nested dinos would have a shorter juvenile phase?
crystal turret
I'm hoping they do something to make juvie phase quicker in general.
Allow players to eat 110% food for example. And 100-110% always decayse at 1% every 3-5 mins, but every second at that well feed 100-110% range your growth time is doubled for example
do that for juvi only or all phases /shrug. But really the growth times are excessive for a large scale game like this imo.
coarse shell
if we have that it should be added once the patriarch system is in. too easy to nest people as you please rn
and 110% food is kinda a thing but not really, you're just considered "full" when you get to 80% hunger but you're not really full since you can eat past that
would be nice though
violet magnet
@winter canopy ""if you are in the area of a raid going on you shouldnt be raid blocked if it is not your team"
as in if you're in the area where a hunt is going on you can't interfere with/help it?
that's more a rule on private semi-realism servers, not much can be done about their rules from here
violet magnet
@broken swift by any chance did you happen to kill all these sub rexes on a no alt turn server?
broken swift
ofcourse. the way it should be.
violet magnet
broken swift
they could just remove dilo tbf. its a pointless dino with no meaning now
violet magnet
it's a bleeder and a night hunter, not a brawler
broken swift
give me 1 valid strong reason not to play any other dino over it
hasty parcel
Totally
violet magnet
i see people play it a lot actually
lyric kernel
i see dilo's everytime i play 
viral creek
-
Dilo has the best night vision in the entire game
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Dilo can kill pretty much anythung during the night with a group.
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Dilo has a very easily juvenile stage
There you go
Three solid reasons
broken swift
if you have some sort of awareness you kill a dilo easy now with the new night time.
broken swift
lol have you fought many good rex players as giga?
hasty parcel
No, because I haven't played giga yet
viral creek
It's not the new night's fault. People still need nv to see, unleds you're gamma exploiting. But that'll get ya banned
violet magnet
"good" on a no alt turn server?
well duh, then it's easy to kill a rex
just get on its butt and keep biting
broken swift
if you stay in the open areas with no trees the moonlight makes you see them easy, unles it rain
violet magnet
then don't...stay in the open...
viral creek
Especially if they're using a camo skin
broken swift
well my monitors on default settings makes it very easy
not my fault if ppl still use old crap
viral creek
Then that's the dilo's fault for being in the open. Dilo is an amazing stealth predator in the right hands.
viral creek
My pc is an absolute chad lol. Yet it's default gamma isn't very bright lol. I could turn it up...but that's scummy
broken swift
well you cant accept others oppinion either
violet magnet
not when u say no alt turn is the way the game's meant to be played, with rex's turn radius being as bad as it is
broken swift
ive played most of the time on alt turn
viral creek
It's okay to be wrong. But if you post in #general-feedback people will give feedback
broken swift
well wrong according to you? so only your oppinion matters?
violet magnet
r/whoosh
broken swift
eh w/e its good if they try the patches before releae on live.
carmine goblet
Gulpy the new night has clearly made the Dilo's 'amazing night vision' rather underwhelming
broken swift
cant reason with him amon.
hasty parcel
In my opinion, it hasn't made it underwhelming
carmine goblet
Well what word you wanna use then? Not as good?
hasty parcel
If you compare it to when the night was pitch black, then yes, it isn't as good as it was then
violet magnet
of course it's "underwhelming" if you make an albino dilo or something else that can be seen plain as day without nightvision
carmine goblet
yeh, the Dilo was a great night hunter then, you were able to escape dino's by being able to see them way before they saw you
violet magnet
still can
carmine goblet
to a lesser degree
Only works if in a forest
Out in the open, other dino's will most likely see you
viral creek
There are so many things wrong with your suggestion.
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A solo dilo should never solo two sub adult rexes, or an adult rex. An animal that takes less to grow, and can solo two animals that are significantly larger and stronger than it is broken. Dilo is fine the way it is, it doesn't need to singlehandedly beat up animals several times it's size to be good.
-
You're on a no alt turn server. Play on official servers, devs literally stated they will not listen to feedback based on unofficial settings.
-
There is more than one developer. Not everybody on the team is focusing on strain animals. One developer could work on strain animals, while another one could work on programming and such.
-
Giga can literally facetank rex with it's damage and fast bite speed. Rex is not op, the apexes are pretty everly matched atm.
Ok I've said too much lol
carmine goblet
All I'm saying is, I don't think anyone had a problem with Dilo's before night change, yet they still received a slight nerf due to the change
viral creek
They did
But that nerf is very minor
Dilo is still a worthy nighttime hunter
Especially if you have good camo, or are in forested areas
carmine goblet
Yeh fair enough
violet magnet
make dark/camo skins, stick to the forests
umbral prairie
@short tundra they've been working on a titanoboa for a while, but I think they will not finish the mechanics for it until they're finished with the code rework
short tundra
That's so cool
sand ferry
@past tusk maybe this whould go to suggestions other then feedback? There ppl can supporr ur idea with reactions
umbral prairie
I feel like 70% of the feedback are just suggestions
sand ferry
but his is really important one, been complaining about the same recently x)) but only in my head
barren zephyr
@umbral prairie and vice versa
tribal kayak
carebears combat log to save they re cute dino
barren zephyr
Combat logging isnt real.
If they can sit down for an entire minute they arent in combat
barren zephyr
At that point ur hunt was a bad idea
And u tried sum u shouldnt have
Combat logging was hitting alt f4 in the middle of a fight
U cant do that anymore
Combat logging was fixed a loonnnnng time ago
umbral prairie
if you're solo and you're not attacked for a minute I would also not count that as combat logging, but it is annoying if you hunt a sub, the parents run over and the sub logs.
barren zephyr
@rotund tulip egg snatching maybe but its been mentioned allowing a dinosaur to eat both plants and meat is unbalanced so it wont be a thing
Ya
The parents protected them
For a whole minute
They won
Move on
A good rule of thumb is if u cant 3 hit it to kill it
Its too big
if adults around
Even in the example made
If a large subadult and a cerato fight
That sub giga should win
So thats already a bad idea from the jump
Speaking from experience
@tribal kayak bans arent just 24hours its determined by the mod i think and its counted in hours
So 39378363 hours is a long time if u deserve it
tribal kayak
@valid flower trike doesnt need a buff, its good has it is now...trike would be alright if giga was nerfed, thats the only prob that trikes face up now. A full grown Giga can kill a full grown trike like if it was nothing.
barren zephyr
Giga needs a slower bite animation
Pretty much what its advantage over rex is
Idk how the giga vs trike thing goes ive never seen it
tribal kayak
Giga just destroys trikes
tribal kayak
So...bleed to 40, bite speed reduced and stamina regen to rex level. That stamina regen is just to OP and ofcourse..ppl abuse it.
barren zephyr
Cant give people nice things
violet magnet
if you can't track down and kill something OR kill something that's sitting stationary for ONE FULL MINUTE
why the fuck were you hunting it in the FIRST PLACE
mental sleet
^
violet magnet
@simple wagon I like the idea of a text channel to share epic moments in the game, but knowing this community it'll probably devolve into a case of "r/thathappened" very fast 
rotund tulip
@barren zephyr well there where omivore dinos where they eat both plants and meat and in the future if isle adds in fish and insects they could also eat those
barren zephyr
I understand that in real life
But in a video game
Getting to eat anything you want
Is broken
When eating is ur only resource
rotund tulip
i know its broken but the isle has hypos and a giant croc so things can be broken somtime
barren zephyr
U have to earn hypos
And u have to grow
Not jus run around and never worry about food
How are you arguing this
tribal kayak
@rotund tulip the hell are you talking about? What says that you are gonna use those hypos in the 1st place? Lol
rotund tulip
plus thos omivores are super smoll so they cant really fight anything off
barren zephyr
So is dryo
And it eats plants
Doesnt need meat to grow
Like i would probably be fun dont get me wrong
But broken
rotund tulip
well ok then but its just still my suggestion
violet magnet
Dondi's said we're eventually gonna get to play hypos somehow but it's gonna be labor intensive to get them
rotund tulip
:3
violet magnet
dondeh gimme mah oviraptor
maybe omnivores could be coded to only be able to eat small things and a different type of plant...?
tribal kayak
Dondi says alot of things @violet magnet
balmy skiff
Can anyone give me some tips on how I can actually play the game? I downloaded it and I get stuck at loading screens constantly..
My machine is well into running it.. just dont understand why it isnt.
violet magnet
^ in #401464048610312195 :v
violet magnet
rotund tulip
btw u know terri is also omivore soo not meat but like fish and insects
barren zephyr
Theri isnt in survival so its irrelevant
rotund tulip
o no i ment in my suggestions to put them ingame not in survival
i would like to play as them in realism and different servers
they seem fun to play as
wait gallis are prob omivores as well let me check
umbral prairie
they do not work on dinos they don't want to put into survival
rotund tulip
"Gallimimus may have eaten small animals 9like insects and lizards), eggs, and some plant material, by sieving them from mud with comb-like plates in its mouth."
umbral prairie
sandbox dinos aren't a priority
umbral prairie
they could make gallis and dryos omnivores but why would they, they work fine right now, if they made them omnivores then we would just have more things that want to eat jjuveniles
rotund tulip
all they would need to add is egg snatching insects and fish and there adding more water base dinos so fish will probbe added
mellow maple
Except that they wouldn't? I'd expect them to eat bugs or really small prey. Not animals about their size.
umbral prairie
and I don't think they will add frogs or insects just so gallis have more food
violet magnet
i'd be kinda wary having an omnivorous galli around my nest and hatchlings
barren zephyr
Nawh fam the nsew is enough ur a dinosaur u dont need exact coordinates, thats the same as asking for a ingame map @slate phoenix
violet magnet
coords come up on the insert menu already tho
barren zephyr
Velos are made to hunt hatchlings btw
Jus because they arent in v3
Doesnt mean they still dont have that purpose
Wait till the ai gets better
Also now that i think about it even seeing names from across the map is kinda stupid but 🤷🏽♂️
mellow maple
Here's a dumb suggestion. Make Tyrannosaurus and Albertosaurus turn radius twice of that of all Allosauroids. uwu
violet magnet
...as in tighter or looser turns?
slate phoenix
@barren zephyr i obv disagree.
barren zephyr
Duh u made a suggestion for the opposite
violet magnet
rex facetanks something and then can rapid-turn and assride the thing to death
eeehhhhh...
slate phoenix
dont have to be sassy
barren zephyr
Im not
mellow maple
I'm kidding lmao. In game that'd be broken af but if Dondi wanted to buff his Rex, thennn at least he has an article to back it up. 
brisk mesa
I liked grouping BEST when you couldn't see icons unless you roared / talked in chat
was really immersive
barren zephyr
^
mental sleet
good idea wattington
violet magnet
idk i kinda like seeing the icons of my groupmates who do stupid shit just...disappear
"lol that's y u don't do stupid shit"
brisk mesa
LMAO that was always satisfying but
maybe only at close range
you'd see nametags normally
slate phoenix
1st suggestion bout the NSEW stuff, adds more to the game, dont see how it will ruin the game, it would allow for group members to better call out dinos w more specific locations of it. 2nd suggestion, people r just gonna head over to the map anyways to see how far everyone is if they arent in a well-known location, especially newer players who dont know the map. It would be nice to see how far away everyone is.
i dont want an in game map, just something to better judge distance and direction
u dont have to agree i understand that as thats the purpose of a suggestion chat
barren zephyr
okay well 1st like i said ur a dinosaur you dont really need the numbers, i get the inspiration from the countless br games but its not exactly needed if i say North East and we are standing next to eachother and you say "where" im eating you instead of what we were going to hunt cus ur just slowing me down
2nd again the fact that u can constantly see names and pictures from across the map is dumb to me maybe like wyatt said if they bring back to only when u call thing i wouldnt mind that but only for a certain radius, maybe if you can hear the call you can tell how far it is so the distance numbers would be fine.
i just want you to explain it cus if u cant properly give reasons as to why its a good suggestion its not a good sugguestion
ya feel
violet magnet
"NSEW"
I read it as NSFW and
"adds more to the game, dont see how it will ruin the game"
you mean...the compass?
barren zephyr
ya
slate phoenix
sorry i wanted the game to have more specific details and measurements added in.
violet magnet
there's this map you can put your coordinates into and it'll come up with a waypoint showing exactly where you are, but you'll have to tab out of the game for a second to use it
http://vulnona.com/game/the_isle/map_en.html?
slate phoenix
ik
split notch
These names
barren zephyr
as lil realism matters here, immersion is still important
rapid beacon
anyone else having a problem when you switch your resolution you get 1 fps
barren zephyr
and having a fps hud ruins that fully
violet magnet
One Rock To Rule Them All
barren zephyr
why the hud got made to fade in and out unless being used
violet magnet
psh i have the static hud on all the time and my immersion never suffers for it
slate phoenix
^
barren zephyr
so do i
but only cus its squished and smaller
if i could make it even smaller i would
but thats the point
the less hud the better
valid flower
@tribal kayak Not really, a rex can face tank a trike with 0 skill, basically all u do is bite.
Tell me thats balanced and worth growing this slow fat shit.
Plus everyone plays rex now.
Trike is just a walking burger mate.
An autistic blind mentally disabled person can play rex.
And yes, giga nerf can solve part of the trikes problem
Rexes is fucking it up tho.
indigo fulcrum
thorny lynx
I'm not used to the speed. I was able to utilize Rex's slow turn with its speed to easily get behind gigas and ride them. Now, I can't anymore because his turn is so bad when he runs
Ok someone tell me why juvie carno deserves to have a good turn radius but juvie rex doesn't
Or why carno deserves a good alt+turn paired with the worst run turn in the game, while Rex doesn't even deserve a decent alt+turn
barren zephyr
@pearl venture there is no global chat on Official servers ur suggestion in invalid
pearl venture
How is my suggestion invalid when it could be an option incorporated into the game mechanics?
So non official servers can use it
We have a nesting button on the screen that’s completely useless atm why not have it with a purpose
barren zephyr
none official servers dont matter
pearl venture
That’s still not my point
Even if there’s no chat at all
It’d be a good feature
Knowing what eggs are available and if you can join into games as egg hatchlings
barren zephyr
my point is that suggestion means nothing to the dev team who is focused on only official servers
also what happens when ur waiting for your friend to join ur egg
and someone steals it
pearl venture
Easy, allow it to be enabled or disabled.
pearl venture
Or spam invite everyone on server if you don’t have a pack
Which is what we currently deal with
Blocking people who spam invite
pearl venture
It should be an option to join nests available for strangers to fill it. End point.
barren zephyr
it is an option
you get invited and you have 3 options
2 of which do the same thing
pearl venture
Topic ended, if you dislike you may downvote at this time
barren zephyr
🗑
normal fern
looks like someone cant take criticism
pearl venture
Oh no I can take it just fine
I just don’t see the point in arguing over it
South says no I say yes, why keep going back and forth?
That would be both childish and a waste of my time, they ain’t bad for not liking my suggestion so why keep at it?
rough dove
Trex is being out performed by Apex Giga, so Trex players accepting a weak position in early stage to mid late Sub-Adulthood is now annyoed because you might aswell Role Giga instead of Trex because of this as Giga also has higher speed before full adult hood more than Sub Ad Trex?
coarse shell
@kind spire official servers never had global chat
rough dove
Or is sub-ad trex faster than Sub ad Giga?
kind spire
ah, I cant play on them most of the time, so i couldn't remember
I think rex is faster and has more stam than a giga throughout it's various life stages.
even after the changes
nvm, looked it up. Rex is slightly slower at adult stages but also about as quick as a utah
but I feel like the pure damage a Rex can dish out with a single bit kinda compensates for the speed difference. I don't think a giga can break your leg and take you down to half health in a single hit. can they?
dusty night
@kind spire The rex is balanced because it shreds everything it touches and has some pretty high bleed resist. The Giga's only hope is being able to nope.avi out of the jaws of the rex, that's why it has better stamina.
kind spire
Ah.
compact matrix
@glass blaze Important to note there are juvenile sauropod fossils from the majority of sauropod taxa indicating quadrapedalism
the only sauropods that could have maybe walked on two legs as juveniles are apatosaurs/diplodocids
jolly willow
🤔
compact matrix
10 hours would be too long IMO, 8 would be better
Unless you were untouchable after hours 7-8 anyway
It also just had it's stomp replaced by a new, faster stomp
tribal kayak
Funny...8year old bois dont want pack limits, that way they cant grow they re apex dinos nor they can survive for long has any other dino
Carebears all over
glass blaze
@compact matrix I realize that. I was just spitballing a way to make sauropods not be terrible to grow, that's all.
last remnant
I agree the environment should feel more alive than does now.
unborn quail
Issue is that the more ai you add, the more stress is put on the servers and the game in its current state
That's why official servers aren't over 100 currently, They can't handle both AI and players at those numbers.
last remnant
Isn't that an optimization issue?
unborn quail
No, it's an issue with the code iirc
Currently AI is counted as an actual player, and if i'm not mistaken, causes more stress on the server itself. Hopefully any issues will be resolved with the code overhaul
last remnant
Yeah because if they want to have different types of AI. I don't see that happening with the current state.
I'm more speaking in the future rather than current state though.
barren zephyr
@weak herald
and for a lot of animal species there isn't much sexual dimorphism in the way of physique unless it's related to breeding success (deer, beetles, etc.). At most, males will have bolder colors or more extravagant adornments (horns, manes), but unless a female is tending young she's often just as if not more than capable of hunting or fleeing.
pseudo falcon
It varies heavily species to species.
Somtimes fathers play more of a parental role than females
Other times the males are notably the more bulky and aggressive gender
Take praying mantis. Males are roughly half a female's size
leaden night
Inverts are irrelevant to vert discussion
Use that one bird of prey instead
The females are pretty much double the size of the males and they specialize in hunting different prey
crystal turret
Sexual dimorphism is gonna be a bad idea. Everyone will just be females because they'll be stronger etc.
the male peacock colors are enough
barren zephyr
I'm p sure they said each will have their own advantages
minor dome
playing in a 200 pop server with ai as it is, the issue of mass rex and giga groups running around causing the need for an artificial limit on their pack size was a non issue as they had a tough enough time keeping a max group of 3 fed, however the trike population went out of control.
still temple
imo physical dimorphism would be neat
would be restricted to crests and ornaments tho
jolly willow
crests are already a thing, idk how much more dimorphism you could do really
still temple
and both sexes will still have the same stats
jolly willow
size would get confusing
still temple
crest size isnt a thing
jolly willow
ah
still temple
e.g. Para female having a shorter/curved crest. Cerato female having crests akin to the old cerato
etc
jolly willow
i suppose yeah
still temple
and of course not everything needs physical dimorphism. rex, utah and allo would stay p much the same
jolly willow
prob
still temple
cus with custom skins being a thing now, sometimes it's confusing wether or not sth is male or female
pure copper
The para species we have in game (P.walkeri) doesn’t show much evidence of sexual dimorphism in the crest, so trying to incorporate into the game seems pointless
Don’t think any of the known species do
jolly willow
nope
pure copper
P. cyrtocristatus is just naturally short/curve crested. So tryna shoehorn in crest differences for in game para is pointless
hollow sorrel
@astral forge That might work once collision is added, but as of now it would be really broken if groups didn't damage each other.
jolly willow
idk if dilo really needs an attack buff
astral forge
im used to uh
jolly willow
it does just fine w/ 50 bleed damage
astral forge
literally walking inside of people
just for a laff
man how would collision work
i hope it would be sorta the outline of the dino but a little smaller in a way
so babies could still hide under ya maybe
wraith trout
I love those suggestions
"Finish the game already"
Thank you, very cool. The devs never intended to do that
lime olive
Some people dont have a high amount of patience
hasty parcel
also, the fact they say all the dinos have the same playstyle 
tribal kayak
dont they? all of them are terrestrial dinos except of suchomimus...all of them do basically the same thing with slight differences on the way they hunt, etc...
hasty parcel
Which means there's differences
Last time I checked, you don't play an Utahraptor like a Rex
wraith trout
^
hasty parcel
also, I'm fairly certain the herbivores play quite differently from the carnivores
tribal kayak
im gonna pretend that you are trolling 😂
hasty parcel
I'm gonna do the same for you
tribal kayak
ok your surely ignorant i get that...instead of talking about other suggestions i suggest that you use your brain cells to contribute for the community with some suggestions instead of criticizing others.
hasty parcel
Except, you're allowed to discuss about other people's suggestions, so that's what I am doing for your suggestion
though, it isn't much of a suggestion
wraith trout
I brought it up because your suggestion was basically "Finish the game" and that's not helpful
and there are far too many suggestions along those lines
tribal kayak
adding humans and deinosuchus is finishing the game?😂
they promised humans to be ingame last month...we are waiting for what? 3years now?
hasty parcel
Patience is a virtue
wraith trout
If they could be in the game by now they would be
tribal kayak
this game was never made to be dinos only, i get that ppl want a dinos only game but this is not that game
wraith trout
Im aware
hasty parcel
We're not saying they shouldn't be in, it's just the fact that patience is important
wraith trout
Im excited for humans, but asking them to finish them isnt a suggestion
Patience my friend
hasty parcel
I'd rather wait and have them add in something finished and good, instead of quickly adding in something that's rather unfinished
tribal kayak
they promised humans along time ago and like i said if you guys are aware, humans were supposed to be ingame last month, January...its almost March
wraith trout
When did they say January?
tribal kayak
you need to watch more devs streams it seems
wraith trout
I watch them whenever I can
hasty parcel
Life can be unpredictable
wraith trout
And as an unemployed school leaver I'm quite often available
tribal kayak
the point is and this is a fact..the game needs more different ways to play it, more diversity...
hasty parcel
They're currently just busy with balancing and recoding stuff as far as I remember
wraith trout
^ The recode has taken all of their time
sand ferry
@hazy sparrow dilo IS handicapped during day as it is, as its quite weak and without the night vision it can't take down most of the dinos it meets.
hazy sparrow
How? Because it is weak? That's not the type of handicap I'm talking about.
sand ferry
Yes, because its weak. Well, if you make it even weaker by bad day vision, simply noone will play it anymore x) Why make a dino that is vulnarable during day even more vulnurable? What for?
hazy sparrow
That's not a physical weakness though, and it is a nocturnal dino.
I'm not talking about making their screens white during the day, just oversaturated.
sand ferry
It will still make the dino less playable during day ->even more vulnerable then it is now -> the question "what for?" remains.
And the suggestion you give will be simply fixed by monitor settings by anyone except for new players.
hazy sparrow
If people are externally changing their color pallets, that's nothing the devs can control.
Again, it's a nocturnal dino.
sand ferry
If it is "logic" you are appealing to, predators with great night vision - like cats and wolves - dont have problems with day vision.
hazy sparrow
You're right, they just see in grey-scale
sand ferry
not exactly: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/17743/do-cats-and-dogs-only-see-in-grayscale
hazy sparrow
sand ferry
that is not grayscale :)
hazy sparrow
Ok 😃 Are you just here to tell me I'm wrong? or?
sand ferry
nah, if you want to make weak dino weaker and less playable for those who don't want to mess with their monitors for the sake of winning - its up to you
hazy sparrow
You're one person, your opinion is your own, others might have different opinions on the subject.
Have a great day 😃
lime olive
I think being a more nocturnal dinosaur would be really cool
blazing charm
Dilo exists.
tribal kayak
@sand ferry Triceratops dont need buffs...
in fact a Triceratop player can take down a Rex on a 1v1 and even if he dies he will leave that Rex near death..it all depends on the players. The only problem for Trikes right now are Gigas who are overpowered and clearly need nerfs in some combat areas such has bleed and bite speed.
true haven
dondi said he wont nerf it , he said it depends on the players , ,maybe if we had a lot of voice shouting about giga nerf , maybe it will change
lime olive
@blazing charm I meant like, One that is extremely better at night time, like during the day is slightly weaker then normal but at night it gets a slight buff
Dilo is as useless as tits on a bull
tribal kayak
@true haven Dondi said he wont nerf Giga? really? xD
normal fern
Then buff Dilo instead of wasting money on adding something unnecessary?
true haven
@tribal kayak when he on and someone said that things dondi always deny every person who wants giga nerf
tribal kayak
well..if he doesnt want to nerf Giga then i agree that the other Apex need a buff specially Triceratops cause a Trike v Giga is pure suicide lol
and i would love to see Dondi has a solo Trike or Rex facing off a Giga full grown since he said that it depends on the player and that Giga doesnt need nerfs i would love to see him making an example
spiral pond
Buff dibble so it can actually run away from giga ?
tribal kayak
Trike v Giga its 0/10 on Gigas favour, theres no chance of a Triceratops to win agains a Giga right now...and Rex v Giga? in my opinion its not impossible but the giga player needs to really suck to lose against a Rex player. Ive used a full grown Giga and ive always won 1v1 against T Rex players almost without any dmg received.
@true haven
true haven
i always lose fighting againts giga
tribal kayak
actually it was rare to even receive a bone break before the Rex being dead at my feet..so if this doesnt need a nerf then i dunno what the hell is he thinking 😂
oak basalt
Well gigas are necessarily the apex predator so them having a heightened combat ability and health makes sense
true haven
rex destroyed by giga
oak basalt
Rex for it's time was the apex predator but if an actual giga and rex were to fight it would depend on speed and agility
spiral pond
Realism> gameplay
oak basalt
Yep
spiral pond
The thing is that giga is slow, but has everything else
Stamina, stamina recovery, mass, hp, dmg, bleed
tribal kayak
slow? did you check out is ambush speed and how long does it last?
leaden night
Giga has a 6 second ambush
And its only 1.3x
Giga doesn't have its previous 15 sec ambush
tribal kayak
but its ambush is truly strong..plus is turn ratios? it can almost bite its tail xD
civic sky
I think we can agree giga outperforms rex and trike atm, which it shouldn't imo.
Since trike is slower then both i'd say to make it the strongest of the bunch, rex and giga would be better if gigas bite speed was reduced a bit imo.
tribal kayak
and that bleed..40 is enough
civic sky
aw yes, the bleed too.
tribal kayak
but that wont happen...it seems that Dondi is against nerfing it
civic sky
hmmm, well i hope other mechanics are added to compensate the other dinos but until then it's gonna be gigapocalypse 2.
or is it 3? i only remember giga ruling the servers twice including now.
tribal kayak
its a plague yes
it takes the fun out of the game
the game is unbalanced
megapacks, giga is almost untouchable, idk
so many things that they need to fix in order to balance the game
true haven
giga shouldnt match rex
i mean we should let giga only bleed it badly rather than hurt it badly plus bleed it
jolly willow
so, buff trike, ??? rex, nerf giga?
only thing i can think of with rex is a BB rework
shouldnt rely on rng lol
astral forge
lookin at all of this giga stuff keeps reminding me of how i died on full health due to falling 3 feet off of a rock
jolly willow
heh.
Giga is a big goddamn terror atm though
To the point where you are absolutely going to fear a 5 adult giga pack more than a 5 adult rex pack
And trike is
shafted.
coarse shell
@barren zephyr still a dick move to go into the water and stay there if you're being hunted lol
barren zephyr
not when youre an aquatic dino?
Don't use defense nature gives you, run out on land against living monster trucks :V
coarse shell
you have a pack of utahs going after a lone sucho. the sucho runs into the water for "cover" and dies on the way. now the utahs cant eat when they put effort into that hunt
using water as an escape route is fine, just dont damn stay there
dire lantern
@coarse shell hopefully they had a mechanic where the bodies float to a shallow end of the water or shore. So they can be eaten. Other than that i dont think people should run into the water and die until something like that is implemented
hazy sparrow
bodies float once the enzymes inside them start producing gasses... a fresh corpse wouldn't be floating to shore for a long time 😃 but I forgot, this is a game
the game has limitations on eating/drinking when the body is underneath the water- so long as the corpse stays above the water-line, it is edible. -- so any form of "floating" mechanic for corpses would probably fix it.
Now, if you kill something in 20foot deep water, why would you expect to be able to eat that? you would definitely NEED a dragging mechanic for that, to get it closer to shore
It becomes quite complicated 😃
versed blaze
Dragging and corpse carrying is definitely planned, Dondi has said so
even has some animations for it already.
umbral prairie
dondi also talked about grabbing living dinos and killing them in your mouth in one of the clips where he was a rex with a galli in it's mouth
astral forge
that sounds interesting
also to add onto the map suggestion: i feel like 4 sections would be too little imo
since some of the maps are huge
umbral prairie
I think 4 is enough, even then people are going to abuse it for spawning in and feeding friends
with more sections this would be even easier
hazy sparrow
4 Sectors to spawn, but multiple spawn points in those sectors?
umbral prairie
yeah of course with multiple spawns in the quadrants, imagine the constant mass killing at spawns if there were only four
spawn campers killing juvies and each other
jovial arch
spawns gotta change tho
the current spawns aren't bad
but the map needs more water in the areas where there's nothing
and more spawns in those areas too
almost 50% of v3 isn't used by players that aren't lost
umbral prairie
if the spawns were all over the map and if there were more lakes more of it would get used, but then they'd almost have no other choice but adding selectable spawn areas, it would be even more annoying to get to your friends if the spawns were more spread out
jovial arch
i mean
spawns are already on opposite ends of the map
you've to spawns in the far east and far west
but there's almost nothing in terms of water or spawns along most of both the northern and western shores/regions of v3
That entire mountainous region up behind trips never sees any players, at best you get herbis and the occasional small tier carni running up to into the mountains
umbral prairie
the mountains are just a risk af breaking your leg and no water (at least I didn't find any water)
jovial arch
yeah
exactly
i'd say of those circled areas
there's maybe 4 players on all of it at any given time
and of those 4 players
two are lost
and the other two are travelling
and that's like
50% of the map
and some of those areas
umbral prairie
I've wandered pretty much the whole map when there were shant injections, some places were pretty cool but some were just boring
jovial arch
are really frickin cool
jolly willow
i just
want
SOME control over where i spawn
like literally ill take any solution to being miles away from groupmembers
umbral prairie
I feel like these mountains on the edges could be a little smaller ( so more room for nice areas instead of constant fear of sliding to your death)
jolly willow
ye
jovial arch
more ways up and down the mountains would be nice
hazy sparrow
Those areas have mostly no water though, why would anything live there? 😄
umbral prairie
also I think most mountains look really shitty and the textures look extremely stretched if the mountain is too steep for grass
umbral prairie
that's why the mountains need some change, because otherwise the dinos can't use these big parts of the map
tbh the rivers that don't flow horizontally (like this big river in the jungle) look very weird (like the rivers on thenyaw, they flow way too slow and they look like they would flow out of their riverbeds)
jolly willow
yea
thorny lynx
You can actually climb some mountains and find AI there, but there isn't anything really worth trekking and breaking your leg for. I really wish there was... Caves, sanctuaries, mountaintop rivers and waterfalls, valleys... There are a few spots in Thenyaw I think would be great spots for some sanctuaries or mountaintop lakes.
native nebula
One issue here is that you're able to climb too well currently. The walkable slope angle / step height is still at the default engine setting so you can just walk right up the side of mountains. You're not really supposed to get up to the top of these places, there just aren't the right settings in place to properly prevent it just yet.
teal moat
When those will be in place we should have visible cues to suggest those places shouldn't be accessible then @native nebula
like different tundra color
pseudo falcon
Admittedly it does look as though these places are climbable.
At least by raptors and the sort
umbral prairie
will players fall over if they run down steep slopes at some point
native nebula
that'd be a good question for Ask a Dev
umbral prairie
I think I asked that already but noone cared about it xD
Imagine how annoying it would be to fall on your jaw and break it so you can't attack
pseudo falcon
Human related question > Falling related question
Imagine how funny it would be to see a live dino rolling down a hill
umbral prairie
why are there so many omnivore questions though
pseudo falcon
I will upvote your ask a dev question if I see it tomorrow Samm
umbral prairie
what would be different about the gameplay except no herd would want you because you could eat their babies
umbral prairie
yeah probably not
pseudo falcon
umbral prairie
I mean It's not one of the questions I will think about a lot if I don't get an answer, so I don't really care that much
pastel charm
Water dinos should have the ability to walk on ground under water and also get in ambush attack, this being said to level it out the 02 bar should deplete but very slowly making the water dino having to come out for air every now and then.
stiff rivet
edited my suggestion just slightly to make it a bit clearer
woven storm
What if water dinos could kill you in the water, or maybe have a type of grapple which they lunge out of the water from crouch like an ambush. And they basically pull you in and do significant damage; Making them fundamentally better at ambush hit and run tactics. Of course the bigger they are the more damage they do; Could be cool so that they could kill someone swiming overhead and still eat them under water kind of like crocodiles do currently, pulling their prey into their prefered area of strength.
hazy sparrow
^ ^ I'd assume that would be for deinosuchus only, since sucho is more of a fish eater/scavenger - Spino/Baryonyx more land dwellers(who also eat fisch)
@wheat hemlock Sucho has "excellent night vision"
wheat hemlock
Yes i have seen this and i have studied it @hazy sparrow . Doesn't mean this is the Bible and we're Christian. I have just suggested an alternative which would make Suchomimus viable in the current state of the game, without much effort as most of the changes i've put down are as plain and simple as going into the Game Engine and changing a few values.
We have no Deinosuchus. We have no Fish, We have no proper water physics, no dinosaur can submerge itself.. So in my opinion, the changes i stated in #general-feedback Are just ideal.
According to Devs, they are at a stage of changing the programming of the game as they have a new coder, they are not at the stage to put in a Deino, Fish and Water Physics, so this is the best we can get without making the Sucho Just another dinosaur with different health, dmg, bleed which it is now.
Also, if im to be nit-picky, using this little guide as bible... Where's the claw attack? why does it say 2.5 tones when he's almost 4? Why is his smell the same as every other dinosaur?
Either way, doesn't matter.
native nebula
@hazy sparrow you do realize that fact file is almost 2 years old and not even the latest outdated version?
mossy horizon
Dossiers aren't even cannon anymore
native nebula
all of the info on them was only ever placeholder, we need some sorta system in-game to easily modify stuff that's ephemeral like statistics, before they could properly return.
mystic kestrel
My suggestion is adding an audio que when you break bone on other dino as trex. sometimes in all the chaos when there is 3v3 or something like that u might notice to late that u broke some ones bone...
jolly willow
(everybody has talked about giga being nerfed already)
mystic kestrel
@robust flare Giga is not Fast at all what the hell.
he has stamina and his trot so he can walk his pray down after he bites them
jolly willow
Nobody has agreed on what needs to be nerfed from Giga though.
bite speed???
thats one of the common ones as well just outright nerfing both its raw damage and bleed damage
down to like 40 would be fine but dilo outbleeding it sounds.. weird.
jolly willow
What is its raw damage right now anyways, compared to rex
mystic kestrel
keep the bleed higher than dillo its suppose to be apex bleeder
850 or 800 and trex is 1200
jolly willow
hrm.
mystic kestrel
trex and giga fights are pretty even
but bad trex loses vs bad giga
only real issue is trike and giga matchup
jolly willow
Trike doesnt really have a good chance against rex either does it?
Trike is just
shafted hard rn
Like literally it cant be strong unless it's in a herd of them.
jovial skiff
remember when it took rex to kill trike in 14 hits
jolly willow
Aye
jolly willow
I'd definitely say trike is shafted rn lol
jovial skiff
I hope one day carnivores could just stop
mystic kestrel
its kinda in a weird place
but nerfing stamina and speed on giga
is most insane idea
jolly willow
Giga is already pretty slow man
jolly willow
Like it just barely has just enough speed to walk at whatever it hit/is hunting
jolly willow
And speed isn't the issue
mystic kestrel
not at all
jolly willow
Though I have heard that Diablo cannot outrun giga(?)
mystic kestrel
its mostly weight/hp/bleed
thats all
one of that needs to be adressed
and dmg
or all of em
jolly willow
Bleed is fine, damage should be donked down, maybe weight as well
mystic kestrel
but if we nerf the triple stacked bleed
to not take 10min to heal
would be really good
already
jolly willow
Stack is a bit of an issue really
3rd stack should be removed maybe, and it should only stack to 2
mystic kestrel
3rd stack only for giga
jolly willow
Perhaps
mystic kestrel
and maybe dillo
2 for allo
dunno if they can do that right now
because of how bleed is implemented
jolly willow
shrug
mystic kestrel
if they adjust giga to the point where trike can defend agaisnt it i would call it a good balance 
now the trex vs trike tho
jolly willow
I'd say trike needs a buff but if it gets a buff now and then localization damage is added
idk chief
mystic kestrel
buff stomp on trike, more dmg or faster, so u can abuse it till trex breaks ur leg
jolly willow
maybe
mystic kestrel
that way trex has to back off if he does not break the leg
i think
make it do insane dmg and take alot of stamina
so if trike gets baited its his fault.
jolly willow
ye
mystic kestrel
and giga would have to rely on bleed
instead of face tank
cause it would get destroyed by the stomps, they are just slow (stomps)
crystal turret
Also flip the attack keys for stomp and poke. Primary attacks on mouse1, secondary attacks on mouse2.
cursive wind
has the fact that trexs cant eat from small gore piles been covered yet?
cursive wind
cause if i kill a taco and eat the body till a gore pile spawns why cant i just gobble the that tiny remainder of the gore pile... right now if a trex kills ai he is basically getting to eat a triscuit but only half of the triscuit... i want my rex to be able to finish his freakin triscuit
mystic kestrel
then it would be to easy to paly trex
and survive off ai
but also current Trex hunger is to short for the ambusher playstyle
you crouch alot
i would up it by 30/15min the hunger
cursive wind
yeah, thats why im super annoyed about not being able to finnish off my triscuit.
maybe they could make a feature for rex where rex can eat small gore piles but only aslong as its hunger< 50 once hunger>50 it can only eat bodies and very large gore piles
i mean if i was a starving rex.... id probably eat a pile of shit if i was really hungry
mystic kestrel
that shit would probably require recode maybe
i dunno
alot of stuff is limited becuase of old code
thorny lynx
When you start out as an adult rex, you bet you will eat your own shit.
Hell, I wanted to eat a bush at one point.
mystic kestrel
hunger
is to fast
for a ambusher playstyle
can u imagine
sucho hunger lasting 1hour
thorny lynx
Also, it isn't like Rex can just run to another area when he needs to find food. At least giga trot gets him somewhere. If you wanna move as a rex, you have to trot
thorny lynx
I think rex lasts an hour from full to empty
mystic kestrel
huger timer at least alleviates the need to be in rush to get somewhere, u can take your time and plan your ambush knowing u wont start making noises because food is at 0%
yes
its to short
thorny lynx
But if you think about it, people begin to panic at half hunger. 30 minutes isn't very long.
mystic kestrel
you pretty much are forced
to play Female trex
and planting nest in your hutning zone
so u wont starve
waitng for people
thorny lynx
Idk how a rex can eat 2.1 tons of food and an hour later he is crying for more food
ERRRUURUUUU
cursive wind
yo im about to post this in suggestions any last comments?
currently trex's cannot eat any small gore piles even though they can eat the bodies of small prey.
my suggestion is this,
allow trex's to be able to consume small gore piles as long as their hunger is under a certain %
example:
if hunger<50% can eat small gore piles(so hungry they could eat roadkill)
if hunger>50% can only eat bodies and very large gore piles(they only want the freshest of meats )
a side note a hunger mechanic could be that rotten food can be eaten but will give the dino a negative status(maybe they have sickness(lowers max stam until resolved?)) unless they have a scavengers diet.
mystic kestrel
That would make trex just hunt juvies
and the type of food you can eat isnt based of your hungry % but what kind of food is dino allowed to eat in general
thorny lynx
Why can't adult apexes eat those big ass curved ribs without the vertebra
You kill a .9 adult rex as a starving rex and it leaves ribs you cannot eat
Fucked up shit
cursive wind
how if your not starving you can only eat what is allowed currently.
if your about to starve to death you should be able to eat basically anything thats vaguely meat like
thorny lynx
Rex should be able to eat ANY gore pile.
mystic kestrel
rex cant eat sub giga gore
thorny lynx
It ate bones for a living
cursive wind
^^^
thorny lynx
Bones, teeth, skin, frills, organs, it ate everything
If he could bite his teeth through it, he ate it.
I love how rex is a bone breaker but he cannot eat most rib piles
Fucking dumb
I know it is so smaller dinosaurs and scavengers can do their thing and scavenge, but come on
cursive wind
thats where my suggestion works out, if rex isnt starving he just leaves the pile if hes starving he eats everything
it satisfies the idea that rexs only eat fresh kills
thorny lynx
Honestly? Rex should be unique in eating the entire corpse.
cursive wind
since they cant eat rotting food
dim zodiac
fix food probleme for real dino adult on survival
cursive wind
currently trex's cannot eat any small gore piles even though they can eat the bodies of small prey.
my suggestion is this,
allow trex's to be able to consume small gore piles as long as their hunger is under a certain %
example:
if hunger<50% can eat small gore piles(so hungry they could eat roadkill)
if hunger>50% can only eat bodies and very large gore piles(they only want the freshest of meats )
a side note a hunger mechanic could be that rotten food can be eaten but will give the dino a negative status(maybe they have sickness(lowers max stam until resolved?)) unless they have a scavengers diet.
so for this any alterations
other wise im posting it on suggestions
mystic kestrel
honestly either allow him to eat like proper gore
of adult dinos and sub trex/giga
or increase his hunger time
i know that trex has refined taste buds but come on 
Hunger wouldn't be an issue if dillos would be popular @thorny lynx
they can make u fat they last ages
cursive wind
got another idea. they should make it so the interaction hit box for food will overide the the interaction hit box for water that way if an ai dies at the side of the river you can still eat it
mystic kestrel
basicly
make the hitbox
bigger
vertically bigger so u can eat it while its in the watter
cursive wind
yeah
i dont know how the system is actually coded since it seems lke its based on a contextual view system
mystic kestrel
since u have to aim at it with your mouth
i assume it has some sort of "box" for the E button to pop up
cursive wind
meaning even though your looking at the drowned corpse your contextually looking at the water first, which explaiin why we are having the current problem
cursive wind
maybe they could code for the contextual system to make a check for any corpses within a certain radius of the player and if it returns true then water interactions are disabled until there is no longer any corpses within that detection radius
it wouldnt be checking all the time just as soon as you are looking at a potential water source
thorny lynx
Or they could prevent drinking when your water is 100 like food...
Idk why that hasn't been a thing yet
So when you're done drinking, you can eat
cursive wind
dondi is a mercifull god who is willing to let us drink our sorrows away?
see if you do that you would only have time between a single tick to start eating the food
thorny lynx
Dondi give me that green eex
cursive wind
as soon as a tick passes your water will no longer be 100% and your back in same situatiion
thorny lynx
Take a sip and try again
Why should you be able to drink forever and have kidney failure lol
mystic kestrel
maybe the dino blood is salty
cursive wind
the water is actually synthahol created by a holo deck from star trek
all the flavour with out those pesky nutrients or molecules to affect your body
the drinking endlessly is something they need to address though for sure
thorny lynx
@fading shadow Utah will be faster wtf
thorny lynx
Galli is slower than utah
fading shadow
no its not
thorny lynx
No, it is slower
cursive wind
so utah and cerato can eat rotting food?
fading shadow
its a good bit faster
thorny lynx
Why do you want to slow down carno?
fading shadow
cuz its turn is excessively bad but you cant buff it without a balance
thorny lynx
Its turn is supposed to be bad
fading shadow
ik
thorny lynx
That's how it was designed
fading shadow
but it could be less bad and still be easily jukable
thorny lynx
It is fine
Carno has amazing alt+turn to compensate
Go talk to Rex, who has the worst alt+turn, trot-turn, and walk-turn of all carnis.
fading shadow
it cant stop quick enough for alt turn to be useful
thorny lynx
And his run turn is even worse
thorny lynx
I think carno is fine for now, speed-wise. Utahs already outspeed it when ambushing.
And carno has no ambush to begin with
thorny lynx
At least a walk or trot turn buff
fading shadow
it needs a turn buff
valid flower
U rex fanboys don’t know wtf ur saying
fading shadow
but not any stats
valid flower
Rex is too op
fading shadow
we arent fan boys the bitch cant turn around
thorny lynx
Giga is too op!
fading shadow
no its isnt
thorny lynx
Best run turn in the fucking game
fading shadow
its not a buff
fading shadow
everything should get a good walk turn
valid flower
u can face tank a trike easily
thorny lynx
Rex cannot even bite very fast
fading shadow
bc trike sucks rn
valid flower
exactly
fading shadow
it needs fixed
thorny lynx
Rex loses to giga in face tank
valid flower
Buff Rex and trike will suck even more
fading shadow
^^^^^^
valid flower
No Rex doesn’t
fading shadow
omg
thorny lynx
He does
valid flower
Tested it multiple of times
fading shadow
no it wont bc its not a stat buff
thorny lynx
It has been proven. He does.
fading shadow
he does bc giga bites super fast
thorny lynx
Jerry. How about you play rex and run around on it
Just fuck around
Then play giga.
Giga has god-tier maneuverability for no fucking reason despite being heavier than rex
fading shadow
^^^^^
thorny lynx
Rex cannot even compensate for its shitty trot and run turn with a decent walk-turn or alt+turn because they all turn at the same rate.
fading shadow
yep
thorny lynx
Plus he has this bug
Do you know how many times I've lost battles because I just wanna use wasd and not freak my camera out?
thorny lynx
Good. His ignorance made my lipoma grow a bit larger.
junior jacinth
Rex on its own is not in a bad place atm. Its just that gigas deal too much bite damage and trikes don't deal enough damage to both apex carnivores to survive.
cursive wind
so was trike damage nerfed?
compact matrix
Rex buff is bullshit
He’s already sleeper op
As soon as giga is nerfed everyone’s gonna figure it out and play it again
Both apex carnivores are way too damn strong atm
junior jacinth
Its not even that gigas damage should be dropped a lot in damage either. It just shouldn't be able to face tank a rex is all. A giga that gets the jump on a rex deserves to win.
viral creek
Rex is in a good spot right now, he's an ambush predator... like he should be. However, giga is another story. But if giga is nerfed, people will start losing their shit cause "Oof giga is useless again"
It's a tricky situaton
jolly willow
i dont think nerfing giga would make it 'useless' again
because its in a different league than rex
as in its a bleeder
viral creek
Basically, if giga gets nerfed he will be invalidated by rex, and people will complain
viral creek
I think giga should be made to be on par with rex as a proper ambush predator. Low stam, fast speed. But he does more bleed instead of raw damage