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jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:27 PM

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to attack carnivores

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not just like

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fight back

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literally attack

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which is quite literally what you're saying it should do

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:27 PM

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There is lol.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:27 PM

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it needs to attack carnivores

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:27 PM

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Yes.

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Bingo.

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Look to modern day animals.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:27 PM

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this is not balanced

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in any way shape or form

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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How is it any worse a herbivore to do it than a carnivore?

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Also.

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They are good against solo predators

valid zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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the cerotopsians and steg/anky should be the ones desiged to sit stationry and fight

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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But hadrosaurs are fucked against packs

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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yes

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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yes Comrade is correct

valid zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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hadrosaurs should be designed to run from larger things and drive off smaller things

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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^^^^^

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See them, make them fuck off.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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that is exactly

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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No your idea doesnt do that

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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what my system designs them to do

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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it cucks them.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:28 PM

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howso

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you pulverize small dinos

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:29 PM

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You cant driver off something if you cannot actually threaten them?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:29 PM

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and easily escape bigger ones

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ok so in a 1 v 1

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:29 PM

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Hadrosaurs are like this: stellar against a lone predator, fucked against groups

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Yes

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1v1

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Wtf lol.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:29 PM

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brain went on fleek

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:29 PM

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Have you seen Maia turn? Stamina pool?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:29 PM

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I mean predator can't do shit

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in a pack

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:30 PM

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Yes, similarly sized predators dont fuck with them

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:30 PM

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you have a shot at running away

valid zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 3:30 PM

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dilo doesn't actually look designed to take on large herbis

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:30 PM

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^^^^^

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Dilo is like a viper.

valid zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 3:30 PM

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looks like it evolved to kill smaller prey at night

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:30 PM

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ok

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:30 PM

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Its venom can be used to hunt but it is also defensive

valid zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 3:30 PM

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currently dilos can wipe entire trike herds

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:30 PM

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✈

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conversation just totally

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derailed

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so you guys think that dilo should hunt

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Threetails, it's quite simple.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:31 PM

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smaller dinos?

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:31 PM

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No.

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Not me.

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Can we continue Threetails

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:31 PM

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yes

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:31 PM

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I'd like to make a point.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:31 PM

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go

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Hadrosaurs are very, very obvious.

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They have loud runs

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calls

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are very visible.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:31 PM

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yes

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:31 PM

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THATS where the balance should give lone predators an edge.

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To be able to ambush them, or slip away unnoticed

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You can hear and see them from quite a ways off.

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Lone wolf sees a Moose before the Moose sees the wolf.

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That's how it should be with Hadrosaurs.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:32 PM

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so then

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:32 PM

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The pack of wolves see the Moose and they surround and kill it.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:32 PM

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you think that the current system of balance

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is good and that maia should run down dilo easily

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because the dilo should see the maia far away

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or hear it

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:33 PM

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The current system between hadrosaurs and their 'victims' in your eyes is good on paper but not well executed.

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You should hear it, and evade it.

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Maia sucks in forests

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Its dogshit

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Thats an open terrain animal.

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Daylight is bad for Dilo

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So it sticks to forests.

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At night the Maia cannot see as far.

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Boom.

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Dilo can pick and chose if he actually wants to be seen by Maia.

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Maia has piss stamina pool.

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Flat out, only Trike is worse.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:34 PM

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ok

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i don't know anything about maia's stam

barren zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 3:34 PM

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except on v4 map the night time isn't dark enough for dilo to be at an advantage.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:34 PM

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and i still don't think it's balanced

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:34 PM

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Yeah night time needs to be fixed

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it's about to be tho

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so hang tight Eevee

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Dondi said they about to make it dark

barren zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 3:34 PM

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hope so, cause it's making dilo obsolete lol

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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XD

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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I think matchups should be about skill, and that there should be a chance to escape or win on all dinos

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Yes.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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it shouldn't be a

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it sees me

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im dead

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Cue Hyper Rex

valid zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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still think my suggestion of linking stam drain to food and water would solve it. if the maia chases a dilo down across the map then it drains its food and water, and gains nothing from the chase

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Sees you and you die.

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Comrade

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You fuck their ability to travel

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or run away.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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ok, well, hypos were never meant to be balanced

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Maia already using up it's stamina is punishment enough

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Also it only fucks groups.

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I personally think, sprinting attack could cost stamina.

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And inflict recoil.

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Boom.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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how does this change

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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It will attack to open an escape route

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Or chase something off.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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ok

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Also everyone says the night is bright on V3 but y'all just have weird gamma I can barely see anything 😂

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Threetails do you remember Progression?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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attacks costing stam

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maybe

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no

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Healing for dinosaurs took a long time.

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Like

valid zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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night on v3 is too light, on thenyaw it's too dark

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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to balance it you'd have to cripple damage

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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You did dumb shit and you lived with that for a while.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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for hadrosaurs

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Lmfao no?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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if they just killed things in 2-3 hits

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doesn't matter if stam drains

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and they do

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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I'm saying stam drain + recoil

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No Threetails

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Yes it does. If they miss those hits they can't run away anymore

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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10-20min isnt a while.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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ok wait I'm not sure how taking damage solves anything

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Progression an hour was decent healing.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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maia still runs you down, 3 shots you, and then heals off bleed

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now it just has some more damage

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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But he's lost HP.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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so what

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he's not dead

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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And every hit he landed costed stamina

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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he's not dead or even close

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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But if he does it again in a short timeframe

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Maia can heal dilo bleed?

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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He's vulnerable.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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easily

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maia can heal 100 bleed

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if it sits

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only if it sits

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Threetails your situation seems to 100% be "my Dilo died to Maia plz nerf"

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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not at all

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dondiSquint

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Your idea of making them dependant on standing is an ultra mega nerf.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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but they're not

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they can still win a 1 v 1

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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ATM they are dangerous to smaller things.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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easily

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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LOL

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Threetails

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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and they can still run away

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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Fight me

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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easily

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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I wont run.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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on one hand, ok, but on the other hand

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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Hadrosaurs are basically Deer/Elk/Moose.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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doesn't really apply

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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That's the entirety of them.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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I'm talking about a complete stat rebalance

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Hell throw in horses as well.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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not just one system

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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That;s still pointless XD

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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one system won't cut it for balance

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look

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a maia won't lose to a dilo

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if it kills it in two hits

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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It will, because you won't land any of those.

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And get surrounded by Dilos.

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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This is the first i've heard about maia being powerful

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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then you run

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if there are a lot of dilos

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you run

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i don't think we disagree

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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It's because it isnt powerful

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Its only good against Dilo.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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ok

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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And it makes Threetails mad upset.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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maia gets stomped by carno

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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And allo.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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and it stomps dilo

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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I'm just amazed how the Maia isn't bleeding to death whole trying to hit the dilo. Is it standing and dilo trying to facetank it?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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bro

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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Stomped is an understatement lmao

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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why are you always throwing shade

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like

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I'm just trying to discuss with you

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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I'm incredulous you, who wants to balance things

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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yes

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Somehow cannot grasp that this is a horrible idea.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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I think maia vs carno is unfair

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i also think maia vs dilo is unfair

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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I'm throwing shade bc my respect for you dropped.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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i'm shocked

valid zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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going a tad off topic now

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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you think that it is fair

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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I held you in high esteem but you are basically wanting Maia and Para to be flat out inoffensive.

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Threetails just try playing Maia for a while and you'll understand how needless that nerf is

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Maia takes 2 times bleeding damage when running.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:43 PM

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yes

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I don't think that's how it should be

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i think it should have a much lower speed scaling than it does rn

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:43 PM

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It has one of the lowest runtimes

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:43 PM

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i think it should be able to run away

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Its very loud

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it turns badly

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and you tend to miss a lot of hits.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:43 PM

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yes

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im not saying maia doesn't need a complete rebalance

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in fact

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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Grow a Maia, before you proclaim a need to nerf it

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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I actually think most things needs a rebalance

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and I never said to nerf maia

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to be fair

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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Your idea is 100% a nerf.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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you don't have the whole context

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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You want it to deal heavily reduced damage when sprinting.

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Then don't propose a solution to a problem if the context isn't there to back it up???

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That's like me saying "OK GUYS I found a way to fix the justice system" and my solution would only make sense if I also bothered to mention my overhaul to the prison system.

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And outside of it

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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ok

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fair enough

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Sound like a banana republic kind of jig

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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might as well just put the topic off then

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Where did this maia kill you anyhow?

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An open field? Forest?

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Maia is useless in a forest.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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I've only ever been killed by a maia once

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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And break their legs all the time on hillsides

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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and i was already bleeding out

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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The leg breaking

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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you guys seems to all be under the impression I'm salty about being killed

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Fall like 0.5foot and your leg goes

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Yeah I'm also wondering if the maia was 1.0 and Threetails wasn't

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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which isn't the case at all

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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You see a problem that doesn't exist.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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I've been maining carno

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for the last

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month or two

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lol

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Maia is basically the Elk of this game.

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Para is basically the Moose of this game.

coarse shell Dec 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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really fat elk

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Then why did you bring up Maia vs. dilo if you don't even know the reality of that matchup?

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Wait no, Maia is a horse, breaks their legs

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Lol

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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I do know the reality of the matchup

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maia outturns, outruns, three shots, and then heals off the bleed

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Out turns?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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i know because i've tested it

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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😂

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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twice

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Maia? Out-turning?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:49 PM

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yes

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it does

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wanna test?

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Maybe outurning Carno

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Sure

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I've been waiting to test w/u for a hot min

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I'll go Maia

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:49 PM

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nah

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:50 PM

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Please share the results. I'm not at my computer right now but this topic interests me

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:50 PM

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do you not think maia out turns dilo?

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then go dilo

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:50 PM

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"wanna test?"
"Ok let's test"
"Nah"

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:50 PM

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Why do I go Dilo?

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XD

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 3:50 PM

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their turn is basically the same

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i just tested

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:50 PM

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^

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it is

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lol

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:50 PM

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It doesn't out turn then now does it?

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And Maia is bigger.

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So an equal turn is, infact, worse.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:50 PM

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ok, but there's no chance for outplay

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unless the maia

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actually

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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"outplay"

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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doesn't have a brain

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you are dead

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period

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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Run into the maia's ass, bite, run away

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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there is nothing you can do

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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maybe consider Dilo isnt meant to kill Maia 1v1?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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lol vepe

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you wanna test?

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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Nah

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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there's literally nothing you can do

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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It can heal the bleed if it rests and doesnt run around.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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you can't run

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you might as well

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sit down

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and tab out

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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Dilo either needs to get into a treeline

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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you can easily bleed a maia out

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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LOL.

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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as a dilo

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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Its called

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run for the trees

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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i mean

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you can drop the tree agrument

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 3:52 PM

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maias dont handle bleed at all

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Yeah like if you sit down mid battle uhh you're dead

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:52 PM

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they have 50 bleed heal while sitting

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well

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maias handle bleed pretty well

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:52 PM

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They can't attack while sitting down you know

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:52 PM

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and plus

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they three shot dilos

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the fight is over

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in >15 seconds

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:52 PM

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They can't heal bleed while fighting

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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unless the maia is trash

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Well, if you cant win a battle. Dont fight it.

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keep an eye out for the things you cant fight

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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but you can't run

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either

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Dilo only needs to get one hit in to get the bleed going and then keep the Maia up

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Don't be seen

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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BaLaNcE

violet magnet Dec 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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"I've been maining carno
for the last
month or two"

"I do know the reality of the matchup
i know because i've tested it"

there have been stat rebalances since then...

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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possibly

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I'm willing to test the matchup

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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balance between maia and dilo?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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but i seriously doubt it's balanced

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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Watt has been trying to get you to test like three times already

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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yeah

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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im on fallen kingdom dm three, jump on and we'll do it, or anyone else doesn't matter

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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i said I would

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thnx

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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You said nah when he last asked 😂

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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no i didn't

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i said I wanted to play as maia

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and he refused

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Is this maia vs carno or maia vs dilo

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me has to know

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Maia vs dilo

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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bad matchup

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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you be maia then three i'll be dilo

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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maia has the weight advantage

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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im here

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Now we wait for the results

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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well

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there's no alt turn

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 3:56 PM

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so i'll just try to escape or what we doing?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:56 PM

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that's okay tho

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you can try to escape, fight back, whatever you want

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 3:56 PM

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aight

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ngl that alt turn kinda fucked me there

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:56 PM

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tbh it's kind of dumb

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without alt turn

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yeah

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lets find a server with alt turn

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 3:57 PM

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okay

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:57 PM

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oh yeah, maia still 3 shots dilo

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ima hop on risen

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 3:57 PM

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okay

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:57 PM

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let me check

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no alt turn

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wait

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 3:57 PM

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lol

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:57 PM

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nvm

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has alt turn

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here first try to escape

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 3:58 PM

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lol

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:58 PM

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i easily out turn you

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it's pathetic

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out easy it was

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for me to kill him

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lol

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like

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 3:58 PM

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How does maia handle dilos mass bleeding

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:58 PM

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no amount of kill

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skill

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is going to help

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you are dead

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it's fucking stupid how lopsided this matchup is

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 3:59 PM

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let me start with two bites on you then u start to run after me, see if the bleed res even does anything to you

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 3:59 PM

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ok

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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Curious as to how you guys are testing whatever you defined as escaping

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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im not even

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second crit

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fuck

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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Maia against dilo is kinda supposed to be lopsided

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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there's seriously not a way in hell to escape

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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It's called dont get close to the really loud Maia

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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this is so one sided

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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that has a very distinct run

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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it's ridiculous

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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and can only exist in open terrain

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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There is no skill to chasing someone as a maia

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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i don't think any matchups like this should exist

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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but there is skill in avoiding said maia

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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So Juvi shouldnt rape Taco

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dondiWeSmart

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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there should be skill involved in this game

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it shouldn't just be

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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But see there's no balance if any dino can't have a chance against any other dino

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The skill is "know your targets"

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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someone sees me

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im dead

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:02 PM

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no, use terrain m8.

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 4:02 PM

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You can avoid being seen

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:02 PM

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Maia is dogshit in a forest.

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Also.

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You can ambush if you see him before he rushes you.

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He cant do that.

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Herbivore speeds are constant

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:02 PM

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hop on death row thenyaw sandbox three, see if a forest matters

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:02 PM

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ok, dilo might be able to kill maia if he puts him to max bleed

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:02 PM

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^^^

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 4:02 PM

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I doubt you'd escape even with ambush

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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ok im there

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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You wouldnt per-se easily escape but gain enough of a margin / compensate for Maia's speed enough

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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If you're far enough, Maria's stam may run out

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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to get to a forest

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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game out of date

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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Also yeah

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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same, probably server

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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Maia stam is atrocious

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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lets find a different sandbox server

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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Uh

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there's a sandbox V3 server I was on

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gonna check the name

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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arc arena

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three

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fuck, it's totally black night

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:04 PM

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that's ok

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wait

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nvm

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can't navigate

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 4:04 PM

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One on one combat between maia and dilo is a bad matchup

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:04 PM

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devils monarchy then

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Maia will always win in any situation where it sees and wants to aggress on the dilo

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Against multiple might change the tide however

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:05 PM

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yes

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 4:05 PM

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dilo is an extremely efficient pack hunter

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:05 PM

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3-4 dilos can kill a maia

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:06 PM

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where did you spawn three

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 4:06 PM

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So if Maia three shots dilo, two dilos can just run through it to get at least two bites in 🤔

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 4:06 PM

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So Dilo vs Maia is like Dryo vs Galli then?

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 4:06 PM

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Depends on more factors

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if you're going to hunt a maia you might want to do it at night

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:07 PM

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i don't know where i am lol

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oh im up near sanctuary

steady cosmos Dec 31, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Hunting at night and in a pack allows dilos to confuse people ez

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Especially if its more than 2

naive helm Dec 31, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Yeah surprise attack with 1 dilo that the maia then focuses on and the other one gets a hit in right after means they'll have 2 kamikazes left too

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:07 PM

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wait

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i lied

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im at trips

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:08 PM

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go to pp

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:10 PM

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wait 4 me Im gonna spectate lol

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:10 PM

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i've played so much carno lately dilo is starting to feel slow as balls

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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welp, im at pp

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running only 30 fps tho

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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i'm almost there

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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this comp can't handle the map

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we wait for why watt

violet magnet Dec 31, 2018, 4:12 PM

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lower settings?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:13 PM

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all lower except render distance

violet magnet Dec 31, 2018, 4:13 PM

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my PC for some reason can run v3 on smooth 60fps but stutters and lags on thenyaw

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:13 PM

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which is on epic

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tbh this computer

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is a potato

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:23 PM

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So they just tested

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Two perfectly plausible scenarios

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Dilo EASILY escapes.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:23 PM

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ok

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Even from close up

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:23 PM

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so

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:23 PM

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if it say, emmerges from the treeline.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:23 PM

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a dilo can escape

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Easily lol

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:24 PM

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depending upon the range it sees the maia from

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:24 PM

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He flexed a little

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You were really close that 2nd time.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:24 PM

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that second time i actually followed him back

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yeah

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but

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then i got stuck lmao

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:24 PM

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Getting stuck as Maia is part of the struggle

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Para is far more dangerous in forested areas / hills.

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Maia is far more dangerous in open terrain

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Para is a goddamn moose, aint gonna snap his leg and he is agile, Maia is like some freaking horse that forgot how to turn, snaps his legs but moves faster

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Maias turn isn't that bad, he's just fat

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if you run into something

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you stick

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cause it's super hard to turn off it

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:26 PM

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i'd say making dilos bb resistance better, so it can safely go on slopes a maia will snap on

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:26 PM

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^^^^^

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 4:26 PM

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It seems the solution here is to stick to forests

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:26 PM

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I actually had to do a full u turn

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:26 PM

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That's a fair solution as well.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:26 PM

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to get off the tree

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well

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Ikr hadyn

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it's almost like we'eve said it for like, an hour.

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On test level

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yes Maia rapes Dilo.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:27 PM

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I still think it's lopsided

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:27 PM

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I mean, yes it is, but some matches are naturally so.

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Maia is loud and MUSt stay in open areas.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:27 PM

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I think matchups are generally too lopsided

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:27 PM

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So as a Dilo, in daytime, the matchup doesnt exist.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:27 PM

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carno vs maia is too lopsided

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maia vs dilo is too lopsided

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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I havent actually hunted a Maia as Carno

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cant test rn

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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it's bad

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Both inhabit the same environment and come into contact way more often

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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my internet is super duper fucked

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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skin system might help dilo a bit too, it's small and quiet yes, but the thing is fucking purple

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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True that

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xD

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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carno just outruns maia so easily

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and it just needs to wait

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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and Maia is a big juicy boy

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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yeh maia is fucked vs a carno

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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as long as the carno has patience maia is done

split notch Dec 31, 2018, 4:28 PM

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If a dilo sticks to a forest it should be fine. Only time i'd imagine dilo and maia would even come into contact is if one party went into an area they are not well suited for

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

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but two maias can fuck a carno real bad

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

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yes

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

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Maia is reliant on herds.

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Like Shant.

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Its turn inhbits their solo survival

leaden night Dec 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

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I've never seen another Maia in-game

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

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still tho, it's kind of dumb that even if you do everything right

leaden night Dec 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

#

GWsoraeFeelsTorbjornMan

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

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if a carno sees you

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you might just be dead

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period

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Once again, some matches just be like that and it creates an ecosystem.

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Where X dino keeps another in check

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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but that's an issue with carno being good at things it shouldn't be

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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^

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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true.

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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it's unintended

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and it screws up gameplay

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Giga keeps Allo in check

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Without Gigas Allos would be like goddamn locusts

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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yes

leaden night Dec 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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It's more invalidates atm

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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not on v3

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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but i would say giga vs allo is somewhat more balanced

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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That's because of the buffed stamina / reduced growth

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It's too much tbf.

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If he was still 7hrs

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It would be allright

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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in that if the allo sees the giga before the giga can ambush the allo can 10/10 escape

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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Bc multiple Allos would reach adulthood

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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i see a ton more allos on V3 than on thenyaw, because they can more reliably escape/spot gigas

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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before 1 Giga does

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

#

also

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allo is much better for v3

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it needs less food

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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yeah

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stamina matters a lot

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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^

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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and needing less food is amazing

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So for example, on Thenyaw Giga outclasses Acro injections, outright.

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Because there isnt really much space to run away.

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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but you know, giga needs to be removed from the game unless allo is faster than giga ambush so it can't kill it dondiWeSmart

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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goddammit those people make me cringe

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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they make me cry

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For some people it seems giga will be broken as long as it can kill mid tiers

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:34 PM

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I only recently realized allo ambush is 27

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to be fair that really only changes speed differentials

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but like

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i thought it was 25

leaden night Dec 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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The problem is how some midtiers just get raped by it

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Like Dibble

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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dibble is a steak with legs

leaden night Dec 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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Dibble gets outstammed and outsped while being doomed by one bite

clever leaf Dec 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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its also considering the fact that allo is really only a tad faster than giga

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and that giga can easily catch allo with an ambush

leaden night Dec 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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You are dead if a Giga sees you

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Nothing you can do

clever leaf Dec 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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without allo having any chance to escape

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:37 PM

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giga's ambush is too long

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tbh all ambushes are too long

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:40 PM

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can someone go on dm with me, i wanna test how far away an allo has to be to escape a giga ambushing

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:40 PM

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sure

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gimme 5

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2

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just gotta log out

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:41 PM

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kk, im on fallen again

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:42 PM

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should i go allo

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or giga

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:42 PM

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im giga currently

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u gotta actually run three lol

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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lets

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position ourselves

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to run down

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this thingy

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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this distance ok?

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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yup

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im p sure

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you catch me

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:45 PM

#

now i wonder if people actually run when a giga ambushes

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that was not as far away as people make it seem like it catches allo and i was still two giga lenghts behind

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:46 PM

#

wait a minute

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let me try something

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ok

#

try to get me

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:47 PM

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LOL

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:47 PM

#

ok

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i tried to measure out 27 m

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which is approximately what giga needs to catch allo

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i think i need to measure from your feet tho

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:47 PM

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and i still didn't get you

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:47 PM

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i measured from your head

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ok

#

here

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:48 PM

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i'll rape you from that distance lol

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but let's go

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:49 PM

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that was more precise

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:49 PM

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ye, i got u there

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:49 PM

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but yeah

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measuring 27m from the feet you catch me

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:49 PM

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is this "GIga can ambush allo from across a damn field"??

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the fuck

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:49 PM

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well i mean

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if it's pp

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and you're taking it width wise

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i guess

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

#

dondiLUL

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

#

dondiLUL

leaden night Dec 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

#

GWactionSmolConcern

wintry cipher Dec 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

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...ow

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

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i got it recorded

wintry cipher Dec 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

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yeah no ill stick to utah so my booty doesnt get invaded by that

leaden night Dec 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

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What suggestion is this discussing anyway

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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we're just continuing the convo, not related to a suggestion

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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this was

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originally

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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dilo vs maia

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

#

tied to comrade jenkin's

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suggestion

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that was where this all started

leaden night Dec 31, 2018, 4:52 PM

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Ah

jovial arch Dec 31, 2018, 4:52 PM

#

yo

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wanna turn test

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lets move to #401464048610312195

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too

languid ember Dec 31, 2018, 4:53 PM

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aight

brisk mesa Dec 31, 2018, 9:17 PM

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@thorny lynx You used to be able to but they removed it because it caused issues & could be exploited

thorny lynx Dec 31, 2018, 10:27 PM

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I know we used to be able to... What were the issues and exploits?

silver dagger Dec 31, 2018, 10:30 PM

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I remember people turning down their quality to make bushes not render so they could see you hiding at a distance.

thorny lynx Dec 31, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Ohhhh, that.

swift mesa Dec 31, 2018, 10:37 PM

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I think people still do that sadly.

barren zephyr Dec 31, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Mine does that on thenyaw but not v3

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Not on purpose my GPU is just trash

silver dagger Dec 31, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Then people used to see at night by changing their post processing I think, which now they try to exploit reshading or something which I think is something separate from the game and has to do with your monitor?

last remnant Dec 31, 2018, 11:18 PM

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Dev kit is coming back for the person who made that suggestion

swift mesa Dec 31, 2018, 11:18 PM

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Sweet

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And @silver dagger I think your right. I believe it does have to do with the monitor but don't quote me on that though.

warped harbor Dec 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

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No point in suggesting something that is already planned

last remnant Dec 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

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I don’t think he knew

warped harbor Dec 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Everywhere you look screams for modding though

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Wouldn't make sense if they weren't adding it back

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(The steam forums have a modding subforum, this discord has #401466138208370689 , heck, there's a literal workshop too)

swift mesa Dec 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Wait what happened?

warped harbor Dec 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Talking about the latest suggestion in #general-feedback

swift mesa Dec 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Oh I thought I got in trouble.

warped harbor Dec 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Not at all, don't even know how that'd be possible

swift mesa Dec 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Idk either I was just confused I guess.

silver dagger Dec 31, 2018, 11:26 PM

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It isn't like they wanted to remove modding in the first place.

warped harbor Dec 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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But damn do I wish it was still a thing

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I'm hoping #519931024956850187 yields good information on how it's coming along, if at all

silver dagger Dec 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Maybe part of the code overhaul that's upcoming.

mental sleet Dec 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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we should get an answer, seeing as its 100+ vote

warped harbor Dec 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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No doubt in that

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:13 AM

#

@lone crypt locational damage will basically make regions like your tail take no damage

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@lone crypt alt turn exists for a reason

#

and lastly, I agree Trex should grow in 6hrs.

#

BC especially on dev branch, it's not worth it compared to the GOD that is Giga....

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given Rex got a big fucking nerf.

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Too many controls, the gameplay shouldn’t be as tricky as the gameplay itself

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:17 AM

#

what/

zenith ledge Jan 1, 2019, 12:17 AM

#

What

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:17 AM

#

Alt turn

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:17 AM

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That's 1 button.

#

Hold it + A/D

#

thats like, as complex as Shift + W

zenith ledge Jan 1, 2019, 12:18 AM

#

spinthink

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:18 AM

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to sprint forwards

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and less complex than Shift + W +A/D

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to turn while sprinting

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granted

zenith ledge Jan 1, 2019, 12:18 AM

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It's too much to ask that you use a keyboard and a mouse

viral creek Jan 1, 2019, 12:18 AM

#

Alt turn is pretty easy to use

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:19 AM

#

it's more complex than W to trot forwards

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:19 AM

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While trying to focus on moving, the screen, biting, and keeping an eye on the Utah with its claws up your ass? I don’t think so

normal fern Jan 1, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Not for some apparently

zenith ledge Jan 1, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Sounds like it's coming down to your personal skill in that case

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:19 AM

#

The Utah basically does not damage per individual hit.

viral creek Jan 1, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Then that's a personal problem

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:19 AM

#

Turn around

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and obliterate it.

zenith ledge Jan 1, 2019, 12:20 AM

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You're gonna be in for a trip once the combat overhaul happens

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:20 AM

#

I mean Jurassicore, we have absolutely no idea how complex the 'overhaul' will be.

#

It probably will mainly be integrating mechanics.

#

And not adding a ton more to clutter your keybindings.

normal fern Jan 1, 2019, 12:21 AM

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@lone crypt think of it like this, there is no difference between two adult rexes on an official server. So if I or any other person can keep something off my back with alt turn, why cant you?

zenith ledge Jan 1, 2019, 12:21 AM

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It's rather likely that it'll make things more complex than either assbiting or alt-turn face tanking

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:22 AM

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That would result from things such as locational damage, trample, armor etc

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Oh? You're an amputee?

zenith ledge Jan 1, 2019, 12:22 AM

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But if you're having trouble with the barebones ass combat the game has atm, any additional complexity is just going to give you an even harder time

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 12:22 AM

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I hope it gets more complex

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:22 AM

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No, I just fucked with the wrong type of turtle

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Ouch

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:22 AM

#

s n a p p e r

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Yeah.

#

I've fucked with those before.

#

So which digit are you missing from your left hand?

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:23 AM

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Pinky

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I thought the thing was stuck in between two rocks, didn’t see the head, didn’t know it was a snapper, took the finger right off

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:24 AM

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How do you hold your left hand over your keyboard normally?

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:24 AM

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The same way anyone else would, but my ring finger in place of my pinky

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Ow

#

that feels really akward

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:24 AM

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My big hands compensate for it tho

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:24 AM

#

A

#

ok

#

I have lady hands im a guy tho

#

Use your thumb for alt then

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:25 AM

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I’ll try it

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:25 AM

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I gather you are using your index to hit a & d?

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:25 AM

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Yes

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And I have my space key binded to sprint

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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Yeah, so even I, with all 5 fingers

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Hm

mighty girder Jan 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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@leaden path The Dev kit shouldn't be worked on until the game is near done, as working on both fixing it and keeping it working does nothing but slow down actual game progress. No good Game relies on mods to be good, why should TI be any different? Change my mind on any of those points.

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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Perhaps hold your hand higher up, fingers pointed down, so your ring finger taps left shift

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have your middle over W

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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Cuz I use W to move, and then sprint with space key, and I really don’t use jumping do no worries there

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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thumb over alt

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middle over W

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:27 AM

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I’m getting a prosthetic one soon so that’ll make things easier

mighty girder Jan 1, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Especially since all people did with dev kit was fuck with numbers (stat mods are extremely easy and were a waste of mod space) create cringey admin dinos, or in the rare case you'd see a good map/skin mod

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Never thought I would ever suggest this but a controller my be better in this situation

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Don’t have one

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reeeeee

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:28 AM

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I'd take a pic of my hand to show what I mean but

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I don't even have a phone lol.

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I’ve become really good at the game depth, and I’m okay at primal carnage, so I’ll get used to the isle

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In those games, all I have to worry about is moving, sprinting, and attacking

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:29 AM

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The only issue I'm finding with my proposed hand orientation

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is your index sliding under your middle to swap from D to A if you need to make a turn

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is slightly slower than it would otherwise be

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but I'm sure you'd get muscle memory to pull it off efficiently in no time

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But if you are using large dinosaurs, it shouldn't be an issue given you arent juking like a Utah or Galli

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:31 AM

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well I still have a piece of the pinky, I still have the piece of the finger connecting to the knuckle, but the other joint upwards from that is gone

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Hm, well considering that you could just bind sprinting back to default

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and have your thumb go down on alt

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Like this

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brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Ye

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:33 AM

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So I can still reach some keys with my left hand

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:33 AM

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*left pinky

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:33 AM

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*left hand alone

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**left pinky alone

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:34 AM

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XD

lone crypt Jan 1, 2019, 12:34 AM

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I’m not 100% comfortable with showing my hands (I’m also a guy and haven’t cut my nails in a while so it’s kinda ugly)

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 12:35 AM

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That's fine

warm ridge Jan 1, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Alt turn @rare shoal

rare shoal Jan 1, 2019, 12:59 AM

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this would have been helpful to know last night. sorry for being retarded

warm ridge Jan 1, 2019, 12:59 AM

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np

warped harbor Jan 1, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Back tracking will probably be a thing later

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Movement and combat in general are getting a rework

severe sequoia Jan 1, 2019, 1:08 AM

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PoggersHype

warped harbor Jan 1, 2019, 1:08 AM

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I expect alt turn to be replaced, but I hope it stays

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As a small souvenir of the ole times

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The more movement types we have the more possibilities of techniques there will be

warm ridge Jan 1, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Ye

jovial arch Jan 1, 2019, 4:17 AM

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@verbal acorn it does

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Like

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It’s not a juvie Cerato

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But it beats pretty much every other juvie out there

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Fresh spawn it’s pretty shit

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But all juvies are shit fresh spawn

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 4:19 AM

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a fresh juvie giga has the best bite out of all the fresh spawns

jovial arch Jan 1, 2019, 4:19 AM

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^

coarse shell Jan 1, 2019, 4:19 AM

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juv dilo is a juvie murderer until it gets to a juv giga

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so yea

jovial arch Jan 1, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Yeah

coarse shell Jan 1, 2019, 4:19 AM

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besides cera

jovial arch Jan 1, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Like, once I got a proper ambush on a big juvie Giga as a juvie Dilo

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And I got like 5 hits off

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And then it turned around and almost oneshot me

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I tried to run

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And it chased me down and killed me with bite 2

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I think I was like ~5.9

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Juvie Giga isn’t a pushover to other juvies

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But in terms of survivability it probs has the worst being so brightly colored and slow and bad at traveling and also hungry

coarse shell Jan 1, 2019, 4:23 AM

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i like juv gigas stam cuz it slowly gets more as it grows with each stage and i like that part but still needs a buff somewhere around there

jovial arch Jan 1, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Yeah

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The thing is actually immobile as fuck

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You can’t go anywhere

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And since the little guy is pretty hungry

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It’s a pain

verbal acorn Jan 1, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Then give the juvi Giga a tight turn and call it even

leaden path Jan 1, 2019, 4:38 AM

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sorry @mighty girder

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I wasnt home when you sent that

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though I do agree with your point. The Isle had a larger community when the dev kit was there. Sure actual game progress was slower than it is today, but people enjoyed it more, the game was more fun and functional in some ways. If or when it's added back will increase the amount of players and possibly will encourage old players (who moved on to games like BoB) to come back, as The Isle can have things different or better than things that BoB already has.

naive helm Jan 1, 2019, 6:21 AM

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@storm steeple how to differentiate that from just being logging out and suddenly you're attacked with like 10 or 6 secs left and you want to log out dondiThink ?

leaden night Jan 1, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Dryo attacks Triceratops while its logging

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Man loses Triceratops

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dondiWeSmart

steady cosmos Jan 1, 2019, 6:45 AM

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I thought that you still kept bleed and damage when you are logging.

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Even if you safe log.

leaden night Jan 1, 2019, 6:45 AM

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You do

steady cosmos Jan 1, 2019, 6:46 AM

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I think you should still be able to safe log safely even if you are under attack.

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I do find it scummy to log out in the middle of being hunted, or just keeping your safelog timer always complete just in case.

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people who do that are the lowest of low.

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@storm steeple Instead of that, I'd suggest making it so the safelog timer resets after a specific time

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of you being in it

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otherwise if they quicklog in the middle of battle you should be able to easily kill them while their body is still there.

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I think 5 seconds, after the safelog timer has been completed, it should reset.

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that wouldn't fix all the problems but it would make it so people who leave it up, just in case they are attacked, cant just easily log when they're attacked

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 6:58 AM

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I would never be able to log out. I don't pay that much attention to the timer lol. Guess I would have to if they add that.

steady cosmos Jan 1, 2019, 6:58 AM

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In general the isle is a game where attention is awarded

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 6:59 AM

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It is a good idea though

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Yeah I die alot

steady cosmos Jan 1, 2019, 6:59 AM

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As stated earlier people really don't like to pay attention, so they leave their safelog timers up to cook and be ready when they hear something. Its the most scummy thing to do.

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Or just make it automatically log you out after the timer expires.

steady cosmos Jan 1, 2019, 7:02 AM

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That might cause more problems, but it would still get rid of that problem XD

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that sounds really good actually.

storm steeple Jan 1, 2019, 8:13 AM

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I like the idea @steady cosmos better than my original one

steady cosmos Jan 1, 2019, 2:22 PM

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@static compass Id say thats like adding in a new dino that has no use but making it playable. I think if they added small fish, they should just be simple ai.

static compass Jan 1, 2019, 2:22 PM

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idk about you but i still play ai :^)

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and it wouldnt hurt to have it playable, for progression reasosns

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thats why ai is playable isnt it?

leaden night Jan 1, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Progression reasons

steady cosmos Jan 1, 2019, 2:23 PM

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small fish?

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also progression is obsolete

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or at least the gamemode

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why small fish

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and what ones if so

static compass Jan 1, 2019, 2:23 PM

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idk D:

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i just like fish ;;

steady cosmos Jan 1, 2019, 2:23 PM

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might want to ponder about that

static compass Jan 1, 2019, 2:23 PM

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salmon cos they big and fat

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and they can jump

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B)

steady cosmos Jan 1, 2019, 2:24 PM

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dondiLUL

static compass Jan 1, 2019, 2:24 PM

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dondiFeels

still temple Jan 1, 2019, 2:44 PM

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dondiUhh

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 2:44 PM

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🐟

steady cosmos Jan 1, 2019, 5:07 PM

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@flat ice I dont think the species diffrentiating thing should be a part of that.

flat ice Jan 1, 2019, 5:08 PM

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well i mean if you're in a herd with your own species the buzzing is gonna kinda get annoying (admittedly it wouldn't be that loud in the first place) lol

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or better yet the buzzing stops if you are grouped 😮

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i changed it 😛

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Pls no the buzzing and static you drive me nuts. I would turn sound off.

flat ice Jan 1, 2019, 5:20 PM

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@barren zephyr what about an inconsistent static? just like the visuals on v3 when nearing a building, they're not up constantly, but instead in short, seperated bursts?

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 5:22 PM

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I stay away from those places because they are annoying. I would rather just be able to sniff out other dinos

flat ice Jan 1, 2019, 5:25 PM

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i suppose, i just figure it would add to the suspense/horror of the game, knowing that something is nearby, but not being able to tell what it is+ties into another mechanic

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Lol when I hear an ai spawn I get scared because they only seem to spawn when something tries to eat me

flat ice Jan 1, 2019, 5:31 PM

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well if you're a herbi the only time ai spawn is when a carnivore is nearby

barren zephyr Jan 1, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Yep

flat ice Jan 1, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Oro: squeaks
Herd: everyone run there's a carnivore coming!
mass panic ensues
turns out to be baby utah

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:02 PM

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@blazing charm Now that's the amazing stuff I'm used too.

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He's a goddamn thief

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Honestly sounds like my kind of jam for a playable

blazing charm Jan 1, 2019, 8:02 PM

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It's honestly not much.

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:02 PM

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You underrated that idea imo.

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A lot of people who like, how shall we say, trolling?

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Those who play a Dryo a lot

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Or really wanna mess with Mercs when added

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that shit would be their carnivore jab

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*jam

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Because it's all about actually reaching the thing to obtain the boosts

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That relies on skill at being stealthy, and you only reap the reward if you pull off the heist.

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It's a very unique style.

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And for a presumably lower tier creature, that adds a further benefit to it, because it can afford being ballsy

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Given if he dies, so what?

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Perhaps throw in that boost after killing hatchlings?

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Homewrecker incarnate.

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That's a nice little Trex family, baby makes scream before getting gobbled.

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Mom comes running over

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Rugops:

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PEACE

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:07 PM

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boost for killing hatchlings

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You mean the thing that every carnivore including Velociraptor can do?

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Everything can do it, but it would tie into it being a 'hesit' dinosaur.

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A dirtbag

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lowlife.

blazing charm Jan 1, 2019, 8:08 PM

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*hiest

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:08 PM

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heist**

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:08 PM

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*heist

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dammit beat me to it

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when you get corrected for a typo but need to correct the correction but it gets corrected before you can correct

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dondiSucc

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But yeah

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That Rugops actually sounds like a shitload of fun for me, personally

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great fun with friends as welll

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all in a VC laughing your asses off

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as someone fails a raid on a Giga nest

gleaming stump Jan 1, 2019, 8:11 PM

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the thing is if any dino gets added into the game people will want to play it and i feel like if that happens sandbox will become the dominant gamemode again

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:12 PM

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????

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you mean, dominant for all of a week?

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Like sandbox crazes have a very short half life.

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:12 PM

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neither of you have any idea what you're talking about

gleaming stump Jan 1, 2019, 8:12 PM

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im talking if they add AI thats not attainable in survival

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:13 PM

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You're implying any new dinosaurs wouldn't be made for survival first and sandbox second

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:13 PM

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It's great you thought I'm implying that.

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But no.

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:13 PM

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You're forgetting that SilentHunter005 also exists Watt..

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:14 PM

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'neither of you'

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:)

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Seriously

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:15 PM

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you really like spongebob

lament thorn Jan 1, 2019, 8:15 PM

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I think he prefers squid ward

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:15 PM

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He definetly does but

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Imagine being on topic

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Ok, so getting back onto that.

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I really don't care if it's a Rugops filling that niche.

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But its a fucking good niche imho.

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It sounds like fun solo, with friends, and really all about taking risks and either getting clapped or it pays off.

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It's a dinosaur I could also see having, well, interactions with tribals and mercs?

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Imagine you JUST got your big Anti Hypo gun

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and a fucking Rugops just

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snatches it.

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Tribal has some fucking mastercafted bow shit, all fancy

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Rugops runs up on him and knocks him on his ass, takes it and bails.

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That sounds like such a fucking funny / fun thing.

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If it was a player ofc

blazing charm Jan 1, 2019, 8:18 PM

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We literally have no idea what an anti hyper gun is.

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Yeah lets make a carnivorous dinosaur into the Pegomastax from ARK: Survival Evolved!

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:19 PM

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an NPC stealing is like cancerous Pego

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gdi beat me to it

compact coyote Jan 1, 2019, 8:19 PM

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isnt veloci gonna have that though

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Wow watt your suggestions get better every time 😄

compact coyote Jan 1, 2019, 8:20 PM

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like, i remember something being said about veloci stealing human items and storing it in its own little stash that could get accessed by humans if they follow it back to it

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:20 PM

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A player based thing around stealing is far less problematic. I acknowledge an AI doing this would be dogshit

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Fridge that sounds to me like, how to grief other Mercs:

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lure over Velo

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:21 PM

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It would be dogshit either way

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:21 PM

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velo robs them

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steal their stuff from stash

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Rugops: Knocks down human, easy meal right in front of them.
LOL NOPE I'm gonna steal their shit and run off!

gleaming stump Jan 1, 2019, 8:21 PM

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the only question is how would it be obtained since i dont have a solid size comparison to work with

compact coyote Jan 1, 2019, 8:21 PM

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^

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Is it the smarter choice, no

compact coyote Jan 1, 2019, 8:21 PM

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rugops is like, austro sized or something

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:21 PM

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but it's also funny as fuck.

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Smaller.

compact coyote Jan 1, 2019, 8:22 PM

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yeah

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:22 PM

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He's not a big lad.

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:22 PM

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This game isn't trying to be funny

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:22 PM

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It's trying to be a game, which by the extent of which is fun.

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Play with friends some more.

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Maybe you'll be less passive aggressive towards people.

compact coyote Jan 1, 2019, 8:22 PM

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@regal sapphire idk man i think its pretty funny when i kill juvies as an apex

gleaming stump Jan 1, 2019, 8:22 PM

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because the only problem i see with this is mix packing obviously which is the biggest problem in the game id say

leaden night Jan 1, 2019, 8:22 PM

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No matter how serious a concept is, there will always be a way to make it funny

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:22 PM

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^^^^

steel dirge Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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^^^^

gleaming stump Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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because say a velo runs up on a merc steals his gun then his utah friend comes out and kills him while hes defenseless

next nexus Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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what if rugops had to spam calls to steal shit

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wheeeeeeeeeeeese

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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^

blazing charm Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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@next nexus GENIUS.

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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dondiOOF got me there

steel dirge Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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looks at utah pack and our random jumping through waterfalls and pretending we're spooking water drinking herbies

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Nah King he's roasting me for my shitpost shant idea

blazing charm Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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...

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I know.

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Ah.

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Lol

blazing charm Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 PM

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It's...It's sarcasm.

compact coyote Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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facepalm

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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IK it was sarcasm

next nexus Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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GENIUS

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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just wasnt sure if you got ref

blazing charm Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Sure you did.

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Nobody says genius unsarcastically

steel dirge Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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🤦

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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except maybe the president of the US.

regal sapphire Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Oh yeah?

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Einstein was a genius

languid ember Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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This convo is akward to look at

compact coyote Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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@regal sapphire youre a genius

brisk mesa Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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It is Kev

steel dirge Jan 1, 2019, 8:24 PM

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it is