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#general-feedback-discussion
barren zephyr
yea
unborn quail
And Utah 950
barren zephyr
but will it run down dilo
unborn quail
Have to wait and see
unborn quail
Most likely gonna be the Cerato of the herbs tbh
But this is more #401464048610312195 now
violet mesa
hey. i have been annoyd every time i have died and being spawned either all the way up the mountains or all the way on the very tip of the beach. so i wondered is this supposed to happen?
limpid dove
@unkempt hatch very good idea. maybe before even the game loads the very first portion of the static AE screen it can give you a popup you have to manually close out of to warn people about it, or maybe something in the settings to disable static/possibilities of seizures, but make it so that it wouldnt make other players benefit from it
unkempt hatch
Yeah I was thinking that too, because the flashing startup AE images can cause seizures itself so maybe an option to disable atleast that and idk, maybe ingame just lessen how harsh the static effect is on your screen when you get close to something so it isnt so violent out of nowhere-- or maybe have it 'fade' in the closer you get to something rather than just going from 0-10 in a second
unkempt hatch
apparently the entire ocean is bugged with it? so if youre just anywhere near the ocean youre gonna have a glitching screen? Just word of mouth though but I did experience it in the middle of nowhere all of a sudden and had to shut my game down cause it killed my head
blazing charm
^
nova shell
@waxen verge this channel exists for a reason
delete that comment in #general-feedback
oblique dust
Most of those land croc suggestions seem redundant and conflict with austro raptor's potential inclusion in survival. Though prestosuchus could be an exception due to its potentially unique combat and hunting style.
barren zephyr
@flint sable NOOOOOOOOOOO
valid zephyr
yeah sure it would work.... but ytho
waxen elk
That would be boring as fuck
brisk mesa
@barren zephyr See the issue here is that idea further encourages the blight known as AFK progressing. If, when resting, you have decreased food & water needs, that would just be exploited to grow away somewhere. Now, if in your idea growth was halted during the process, then IG it can be fine for use as you proposed; to wait for better times / potential prey to show up / wait for rain & night to politely fuck off.
jovial arch
I’m gonna have to agree
Sleeping needs to be carefully balanced if it’s gonna be a thing
brisk mesa
Very, very carefully balanced...
Because on the one hand the argument that nightime sucks major ass is valid, same goes for predators waiting in one area for prey items to arrive being pretty goddamn unfeasible atm.
On the other hand, we don't want a megapack being able to wait for victims by all sleeping together...
Perhaps, when sleeping, it is only hunger decay that is lessened, so you still need to actually get up and find water? Toss in growth not occurring during sleep, eyes being 'shut' (so no eyeshine) and your range of vision being incredibly limited, even in daytime, and it could possibly not break the whole game balance.
wintry cipher
Perhaps if its just a matter of "waiting" sleep could cut both your growth and your hunger consumption in half? That way its only really useful for adults, while not inciting afk growth -in fact it could help juveniles who are out of luck but are persistent enough to try and wait for something to come by. Plus, you'd still depend on water eventually, so you'd take the risky position of being somewhere near water to do this -in order to both have water nearby, and to see any potential prey.
But, with that in mind, it could potentially support the growth of "sleeper" megapacks of apex preds. As such those dinosaurs should be balanced completely before a system like this is implemented to avoid situations with, say, gigas who are out of line balance wise atm.
brisk mesa
Maybe when sleeping, your stamina gradually goes down, so you cannot simply sleep and spring into action?
mint gull
barren zephyr
But if everyone is sleeping at night wouldn't that completely negate the Dilos best ability? Having good night vision isn't great if everyone else is sleeping in bushes.
wintry cipher
i mean, they can already do that by resting
plus, if anything, that works to a dilos advantage if it keeps quiet. it can get a good 3-4 bites off to give fatal bleed before their target can get up, or 2-3 before bolting to get distance
barren zephyr
Not if they're hungry. I was referring to the hunger cut in half.
wintry cipher
then if their prey wasnt ready to log out instantly, theyd get up and run around and bleed out
valid zephyr
ok i like that suggestion of server rules being on all officials
wintry cipher
ah. ehh...ive figured otu a way of playing that i just eat a little before nightfall, then hide until morning as is
yes, your hungry af, but you can do it.
barren zephyr
Then there is no point in cutting hunger by half just have it decay as is.
wintry cipher
then sleep is otherwise pointless other than a mild healing buff perhaps. and it would keep people in their habit of logging off when night hits.
which makes dilos suffer because their prey suddenly becomes more limited when otherwise, yeah, theyd be asleep.
but at least theyre there to hunt
brisk mesa
^^^^^
Perhaps...
sleeping cannot be done if in the escape menu?
So someone cannot, if reaping the benefits of reduced hunger drain, quickly log off?
Furthermore they would either not grow, or have reduced growth?
brisk mesa
Say, opening escape makes you go into Rest from Sleep?
Lemme post a more, well, thought out sleep lol.
wintry cipher
maybe? though thats like saying "you cant have the esc menu open while resting" for me.
its redundant. but go ahead and write that. might straighten some things out
lament thorn
discussing a sleep mechanic?
wintry cipher
honestly sleep could be a good way to encourage dinosaurs to do these things:
-
stick to a certain vulnerable/night but buffed/day cycle. If this is interrupted and they have not hidden well enough, they lose these mild buffs (maybe stamina?) and get whacked with immediate debuffs such as reduced stamina? (like how we are tired and groggy when woken up)
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this could be implemented for dilos as they would sleep through the day, hunt at night. This would affect daylight animals as they would sleep through night, hunt during the day -or whatever cycle you decide to pick and stick to.
-
it is one thing to help keep creatures online rather than have them go offline when night hits because they find it unenjoyable. this causes them to have the activity of rushing to fill up on everything before nightfall, then finding a suitable hiding place. You could also work as a pack or herd to have regular guards to keep an eye out.
ye
lament thorn
cool
being vulnerable in some bush is defiantly better then having them just log and wait
brisk mesa
Yeap.
wintry cipher
mhm because then theyre just straight up invincible
brisk mesa
Indeed.
My interpretation would make someone have to take 60 seconds, if sleeping, to be able to houdini the fuck outta there
Because you tap escape, and your dinosaur has woken up.
Consider it like, sleeping is active until you push any buttons;
You can move the mouse, and that's about it :)
cannot sleep talk
lament thorn
lmao sleep talking and walking
wintry cipher
that would help with people panicking and trying to get up and being unable to find the right key to "wake up"
lament thorn
i can just imagine being in vc with a sleeping creature and hearing them slam into their keyboard to wake up once they see an approaching creature XD
south flower
Has it been thrown out there that a dinosaur could eventually fall asleep if not in good condition food/water/health-wise?
Maybe a bad idea but
brisk mesa
That sounds like starvation lol
lament thorn
like collapse?
south flower
Sort of?
lament thorn
accepting death
south flower
But we have a stamina bar, maybe if your stam is low enough as well as hunger and whatnot, your Dino falls asleep in an attempt to recover.
barren zephyr
Honestly the new v3 map anyway is so bright there really is no need to sleep.
south flower
The idea sounded better in my head lmao
south flower
Same lmao but it’s still pretty cool to see the northern lights and such at night.
arctic nexus
With a single player mode, sleeping would make sense
violet magnet
"But we have a stamina bar, maybe if your stam is low enough as well as hunger and whatnot, your Dino falls asleep in an attempt to recover."
There've been times when I've been playing where I've been starving/dehydrated and on the last damage screen, used up all my stam from running, but there is food and water just over the next hill and I manage to make it there at the last possible second. If my dino had just laid down and died instead of pushing on toward Salvation uuugh
brisk mesa
True that.
south flower
True, true. You never know in this game. Lol
Guess that’s the thrill of it - the anticipation and constant doubt if continuing one way is worth it.
arctic nexus
Deep
brisk mesa
@barren zephyr I made the same suggestion 2 above yours XD
barren zephyr
Lol
brisk mesa
It's a really good thing to want to implement
Because yes, it's quite unfun to have to deal with that crap.
barren zephyr
Yeah. People can be complete scumbags but with a set of rules in place, at least those who aren't can still enjoy the game.
brisk mesa
Indeed.
lost kettle
is this the general convorsation room cause i cant find it.
brisk mesa
lost kettle
ah thanks
topaz epoch
I'm actually opposed to enforcing rules on live branch. If rules are I'm place that keep players from breaking the game then how would they ever know what design ideas work or not?
brisk mesa
I mean, look at development branch.
That's where the testing goes on, isn't it?
I'm not acclaiming for the rules to permanently be enforced.
If anything, I think Dev Branch is the place where people are willing to submit themselves to more 'unfinished, unrefined' experiences, is it not?
Dev Branch is the place where devs can see people do the, well, ugly things, that they might not have seen coming. Do things beyond the intended design of a system.
If players are to grief or break a part of the game, I feel like the non-standard branch of the game should be the place it takes place.
brisk mesa
3 times people postin' suggestions for rules lol.
delicate mango
uh, hatchlings do not require water
blazing charm
Out of genuine curisosity, I noticed some folks didn't seem to like the Lurdu document. Any particular reason why? Just so I can possibly improve it.
blazing charm
Oh that's right, I forgot.
Well, regardless. Just becuase two games share the same species, that doesn't mean they can't be done differently.
blazing charm
Wasn't saying you were.
hoary ocean
This game has not completed their list of Dinosaurs yet and their mechanics. They have a priority list which is the Survival Dinosaurs and the Secondary which is Non-Survival. I believe it's far too early to be suggesting more, given the fact that they also have some Dinosaur ideas shelved.
blazing charm
That's completely fair, and I can honestly respect that. I just like to try and disprove the argument of "X dinosaur is too unoriginal to be put in survival"
barren zephyr
hmmm
hoary ocean
Survival as of now is just growing a Dinosaur. That's one faction out of three. Nobody knows anything about the Lore of the game, only speculation. I would love to see various Dinosaurs in the game as much as you do, but I do not want to overhype myself by believing it will be done within the next couple of years. The team is extremely small, especially for a game as unique as The Isle, a lot of work still needs to be done.
@south flower I would say it's repeated news, Utah pounce has been unheard of since early Isle, but right now the Austroraptor has a pounce that is not completely finished.
south flower
Oh I know the pounce mechanic is old news, I was referring to the possibility of larger predators locking into prey with a bite in a similar fashion of that of the pounce mechanic. Without the pounce, I mean.
hoary ocean
Ahhh, yeah I have seen a suggestion like that. I would have to tell you not to expect a mechanic such as that until combat overhaul is done.
lament thorn
yeah grappling and holding down other creatures will just be a combat update
nova shell
@waxen verge good suggestion
arctic nexus
@visual mural you don't need water as a hatchling...
nova shell
also it wouldn't make sense anyways
and would be dumb
and finding enemy nests would be a whole lot harder
nova shell
a nest that isn't your nest
and there are 'sides', those that help your bloodline, and those that hinder it
arctic nexus
Is that a quote from a book or something?
arctic nexus
Dryos don't attack Parasaurolophus nests
arctic nexus
I played Ceratosaurus not that long ago, I was sat at Dohnut on Thenyaw when a Giga came by. I didn't go for my nest, turned in the opposite direction and walked away.
Are species on different sides?
arctic nexus
To the point that they HAVE to destroy opposing species nests.
arctic nexus
Adsactly.
I think the giga was clever. Never underestimate the power of an angry Mother.
I know that from first hand experience, dinosaur or not.
nova shell
I think that giga 4 shots cerato and that the giga was dumb
arctic nexus
Ceratosaurus pairs can kill Gigantosaurus, probs thought my mate was near by.
nova shell
there's no mechanics to make the game immersive enough to think, "hey, better not go near that mother, else she unsheath her motherly rage"
ceratosaurus pairs can kill gigas, but they must be some dumb gigas if they're on an official server with alt turn enabled
arctic nexus
Still I'd feel more compelled in combat. That there is a thorough point of me standing my ground.
I'd say I would fight better with something like that in mind.
nova shell
as a cerato, I would undoubtedly go for a giga nest if there were no parents in sight
risk = i die
reward = no more future baby gigas
I'd say the reward is worth it for a cerato
arctic nexus
I would, if it actually yielded short time benefits.
arctic nexus
^^^^
Still
Can't really give much
Hatchlings aren't worth it
Nor if it had a few Juvies in the nest.
arctic nexus
If eggs gave some buffs?
nova shell
cause at that point the parents don't stray far
arctic nexus
Mhm, back to the idea of an angry mum and dad. Not worth the risk in my opinion.
nova shell
Give a decent paternal and even better maternal stat buff to parents when near their babies up until subadult stage for big dinos and adult stage for anything else
when
arctic nexus
Sounds good, I think stuff like this has already been discussed. Giving benefits to nesting.
barren zephyr
Making a "sea" drinkable
split notch
Sure, make it drinkable, but have it decrease thirst instead
next nexus
if you're having trouble finding water on v3, i dont know what to tell you mate
barren zephyr
other than log out
nova shell
uninstall 😃
barren zephyr
V3 is made out of water with chunks of land here and there. Why does the ocean need to be drinkable?
barren zephyr
Maybe but since your eyes are closed you shouldn't be able to see anything. Just black screen. Unless your dreaming. Nightmares of rex eating you would be cool.
barren zephyr
In not a fan of sleeping. If someone doesnt want to play they can log out. But mainly there are a lot more interesting mechanics the devs could devote time too.
jovial arch
What if water drain
Was actually increased while sleeping
Like
Doubled
So then it forced you to go drink a lot
barren zephyr
see
i would be with you but
that makes no fukin sense xd
but here
hear me out
what if
dilo was faster than para
jovial arch
So you’d be trading the risk of not finding food
For the risk of going to watah
@barren zephyr
R u talking to me?
young summit
jovial arch
Decades
barren zephyr
@barren zephyr so ur first suggestion gets deleted by a mod and then u post something arguably worse
🤷♂️
barren zephyr
Like 2 years ago or something like that, it was just a question dont have to be rude about it FYI
It was a shitty mod @jovial arch
But we have alot of furries here
So it was "popular"
And i think anth did a vid
still temple
Furries aren’t people
barren zephyr
Why i didnt call them people
barren zephyr
They might pounce us
jovial arch
Oh it was a mod
barren zephyr
Shitty mod*
wintry cipher
Never touched it, and likely never will because it did not interest me -but at least it wasn't another generic stat mod out of the 5 billion others.
barren zephyr
Dev4 has constantly been in 100/100
barren zephyr
I know this is a late response just got off wrk but yes growth is stunted if your sleepin for the very reason of exploits
upper cedar
jovial arch
@valid zephyr
I'm pretty sure a system of either dragging corpses
or ripping food off/running away is planned
it's definitely been talked about by the devs
valid zephyr
good to hear. would be nice to hide those dead oros in the bushes for later
arctic nexus
I also enjoy over obsessively hoarding bodies...
valid zephyr
@barren zephyr we had the same suggestion
barren zephyr
And its already on the way🤦🏽♂️
barren zephyr
@south flower you broadcast problem solved
south flower
I thought broadcast was just to let others know of your presence in an area?
barren zephyr
Is that not what a mating call does too
Gender is a technicality all your doing is saying "im close to you"
south flower
I just figured a separate mating call would make it a bit more clear of some users intentions of announcing themselves, was all.
Kind of like animals in rl
Some have their own sounds for what they’re looking for, so it could make sense.
barren zephyr
Broadcasting is just knocking on the door its the calls that come after that show intent
south flower
Well, just a thought anyway. 🤷♀️
valid zephyr
just making a suggestion about making the nights on thenyaw more similar to V3. gives more variety, and currently on thenyaw dilos are actual gods with how dark it gets
molten hull
Well i think it would be good to open the global chat in official servers, it always helps a lot in group searching
valid zephyr
true
it's just a pain currently finding herds
that affinity system can't come soon enough to discourage mix packs
still temple
grow as in regular tick by tick growth?
or progressing to the next life stage growth?
zenith ledge
No, as in progress from juvie to sub to adult
barren zephyr
^
valid zephyr
yeah i like that idea. i remeber having a few maias beating up a sub rex when it jumped to adult and wrecked us
zenith ledge
I think that skin suggestion would be more easily achievable by just giving players the option to edit their skin coloration when they go through different life stages
Especially considering that rn the transition between juvenile and adulthood is a bit of a staggered one and not that smooth
Plus you'd have to account for blending the colors between the stages correctly, since if you start out green and gradually transition to red you'd spend most of your playtime as a rather unappealing muddy brown mess due to color contrast
topaz epoch
@still temple I edited it to make it a little more clear. Was referring to moving from one growth stage to the next
brisk mesa
Souretsu, I'd replied earlier to a comment you'd made disagreeing on my suggestion to have the rules apply on Live Branch
So if I might re-iterate my reasoning why it might actually be better for 'no rules on dev' vs live branch? On dev is where people expect, and sign onto, a more, if you will, 'unstable' experience.
It therefore makes no sense that the more chaotic, barbaric situation occurs on the live version, the default one new players will be greeted with.
I totally agree that the devs need to be able to see the full extent of consequences to a possible change, how players make use of it, without rules inhibiting them from finding an obvious loophole of some kind.
But that should be on dev, if anything, surely not the live branch of the game.
The live branch of the game, until mechanics are implemented as countermeasures to dick moves, be it throwing your carcass into the nearest lake, off a cliff, mixpacking, megapacking... that should be the most stable experience, to hook in new players.
The fact that people are excited for the next dev branch for the sole reason that it will be less cancerous than live, that's a problem.
valid zephyr
i'd rather both live and dev had rules
brisk mesa
Yes, that's preference I agree.
But if the devs need to test affinity, obviously the rules would be 'suspended' if you will.
And if as Souretsu had mentioned, wherewhere should be 'lawless' so the devs can test better, in my mind Dev branch is the only conceivable choice, or hell...
Some servers could simply be branded as 'Lawless'?
Example, Dev 2 could be 'lawless' whereas Dev 1 could be 'Law n Order'
Give a place for the cancer clans to fuck eachother over
valid zephyr
yeah could understand no rules when affinity happens
not clue how they will make affinity work though
brisk mesa
and leave us reasonable players out of it
nocturne blaze
I like that idea, actually.
brisk mesa
rushes to post it
nocturne blaze
thorny lynx
@valid zephyr Trips and Great Lake are pretty deep.
barren zephyr
@bold bough why do u have me blocked 🤔 i dont think ive ever had interaction with you
Im attempting to pin ur suggestion
Wit a reaction
bold bough
I don't have you blocked ?
barren zephyr
@waxen verge
nova shell
I like it jaffad
compact coyote
^
nova shell
what I think could work is if sucho had to stick to rivers and lakes to sustain itself whereas bary could be more of a swamp beast
compact coyote
the baryonyx could very well be an enjoyable playable with this mechanic and what ^ said
👍
but ye, bary could be really good in swamps, get fish and if something larger comes your way you bury it in the mud
lethal mauve
👌 hawt bary suggestion
barren zephyr
I've never heard anyone suggest burying food before. I really like that idea.
blazing charm
Also I forgot to mention, I added a lil index for the suggestions, so they all kinda link together.
jovial arch
@strange meteor, I’m gonna have to disagree with your killing spree thing because it disincentivizes nesting for carnivores
The best strat for nesting on carnivores is to make several kills and then nest
barren zephyr
true burrow
I like the suggestion
jovial arch
I mean
if you want some criticism
I can hook you up
😉
I'm kind of generally not a fan of your dinosaur suggestions because they don't really make much mention to balance or overall position in the ecosystem. tbh this is actually my take on most dinosaur suggestions
which in my opinion is really important
but like
🤷
as far as mechanics go, they're not bad, in fact I like several of them
it's just I read about your dinosaurs and I feel like I have practically no idea how they would actually play
which is kinda what I need to get behind this sort of suggestion
To be fair, I don't think I've ever seen a dinosaur suggestion that I've really liked
wintry cipher
@fervent isle a herd and a pack already buff each other. your damage output and general hp on both go up -not for each individual animal, but suddenly you wont be hunted by as much other than apexes. at least not successfully.
an example: a pack is going to do a lot better in hunts than a solo predator simply because the predator is not the sole focus -its all of them.
a herd is going to do better than a solo herbivore because they have more eyes to spot danger and either allow the group to run or form up and defend themselves. a solo herbivore would have to look for a wall or something else to get their back to
brisk mesa
@pine shore NGL I'm genuinely pleasantly surprised you're on the side of rules actually being enforced
pine shore
I love the rules on development branch, I really do. I'm tired of mixpacking myself but back then it really was the only way of surviving 🤷🏽
I missed them from the second they patched it and said there's no rules enforced on Dev Servers right now so let's see what the suggestion is gonna do
brisk mesa
Yeah, likewise, I feel all the large groups had to mixpack to be viable, arms-race if you will
6 suggestions have been posted since the game has gone live, all asking the same thing.
Hopefully we're all heard out on this one, because quite frankly, the rules genuinely made the experience more enjoyable. You saw herds ACTUALLY happen, due to the mixpacking & pack size limitations. You could group with people not specifically in your discord group that were of your species, it was more, i guess, welcoming.
Now we're back to absolutely trusting no one, because they are 9/10 a scout for a mixpack trying to lure in prey.
oblique dust
I kinda have to agree. Even though mixpacking isn't really allowed, I can't really blame carnivore players for doing it with all of the AI issues going around right now.
brisk mesa
No, it's completely allowed rn... which is a problem for a lot of us.
mighty girder
Mixpacking does nothing but ruin the game for everyone
oblique dust
Not to mention that v3 is basically a herbivore haven, and I've been seeing lots of herbivore players form super-herds that most carnivores can't even dream to tackle with a rule-appropriate pack.
mighty girder
The affinity system is supposed to stop it once its in anyways so idk why its allowed
brisk mesa
Yes, I understand the motived behind it, back when my group was active we mixpack'd because our rival groups did as well.
oblique dust
Like I was a galli in a herd with at least 17 para players and 9-10 trike players several days ago.... how's any reasonable carnivore pack going to attack that?
wintry cipher
I'm glad utah happened to have its hitbox fucked up so my pack doesnt play rn. Otherwise id be stuck growing other preds and i cant stand that -.-
brisk mesa
Actually, that pack loses to 10 rexes.
wintry cipher
i keep killing them instinctively if theres baby utahs around
brisk mesa
3 trikes lose to 1 rex
mighty girder
Dev rules dont let herds that big exist either p sure unfun
brisk mesa
Actually they do.
There's only the limit of how many people want to go herbivore.
And how much food is available
wintry cipher
dev rules dont exist rn because public and dev are on the same patch
brisk mesa
V3 went from being Herb hell to Herb heaven
oblique dust
I've yet to encounter any rex megapacks on dev servers for v3, but eh, maybe its changed within the last few days.
brisk mesa
I've heard of small packs but, consider that 3 trikes die to 1 rex, who survives.
A skilled rex can throw down with 5 on its own
wintry cipher
i think giga/allo/utah mix packs would be pretty lethal. they can travel a lot more
brisk mesa
So that herd is hardly an unstoppable force
Oh yes, they definetly are
Tho
Carnos have been substituting Utahs
wintry cipher
yep
brisk mesa
Because they do A LOT MORE BLEED
and are even faster
Giga, Allo, Carno, and the other option is night hunting parties that use Dilos and Rexes
wintry cipher
mhm. ironically...the way we'd do it when our pack had to mix in order to hunt gondwana -we'd have maybe 1-2 rexes, a giga, and a couple allos. bulk fo the numbers were utahs.
what wed do is have a rex run through all their rexes, sometimes up to 5
- typo.
and if he broke them all
then wed stick a utah on their butt
if they tried logging, a giga would go on them
oblique dust
I would think dilos are garbage right now thanks to nights being so bright, plus their slow speed being more of a hindrance on v3.
brisk mesa
That is quite efficient, but your Rexes are probably dying in the process
Sacrificial bonebreak.
wintry cipher
youd be surprised. oftentimes they wouldnt
brisk mesa
Well then.
oblique dust
I've yet to see any dilos on v3, so....
wintry cipher
and if they did end up broken wed still have a utah ont heir butt so theyd crawl away
and the other rexw ould get pissed and turn around
gondwana fighters arent very bright so
we abused that
one of the funniest things ive seen is when they literally got 9 rexes on
for our pack of 5 utahs
we hadnt had apexes on at the time, so we just bobbed and weaved through them to kill their scout utah
and made them bite each other
we wound up just moving off though and letting them try to hunt us down but waste hunger in the process
a problem with big herb herds though: sustainability. mixpacks dont really have that problem because they have so many other methods of getting food
sadly i can only see affinity balancing that out
oblique dust
I'm assuming that mixed packs are more of a problem on the public servers then?
because I'm lost on this conversation since I only play on dev branch and haven't really seen any mixed packs so far.
wintry cipher
because dev branch has rules in place during times when patches dont align
its like the old prophecies of the stars alignign and bringing destruction type of thing
oblique dust
hm, doesn't public branch have its own official servers though? I would think the same rules apply there.
wintry cipher
for some reason they dont -and its likely because the mods(the ones that have admin perms that is) cant cover the workload of scouting for rulebreaks on both them and dev branch servers
plus it works as a control group for how the game is played without rules.
oblique dust
That's weird... I can understand non-official servers being megapack/mixpack-infested hellholes, but not official servers. Sounds like they need to recruit more mods so that they can make them into public server admins then.
Because it's kinda messed up that dev servers are more civilized RN, when it needs to be the other way around for testing and shit.
violet magnet
Isle of Bermuda allows mixpacking last I checked, and I left the server because it was just bullshit
you can't win on that server if you don't mixpack
oblique dust
Isle of Bermuda isn't official though.
violet magnet
i was in a big utah pack once leading them to Canyon, and we got ambushed by a carno who was scouting and hunting for his rex friend
oblique dust
IMO you're much better off sticking to the official servers if you don't want to deal with that kinda bullshit, but it's a shame that official servers have such a low population count.
like, 100 players max for v3?.... eh.
leaden night
We should go to Isle dis I was killed by an adult Cerato as a juv Cerato who was helping a Dilo and juv rex
violet magnet
^ bullshit right there
i don't mean i doubt it happened just that the fact that it happened is bullshit pff
topaz epoch
I said this before, but not using rules for public branch is actually quite important for the authenticity of the data collected from those servers
Rules are used for different reasons than user experience, and in actuality have no bearing on them
If rules were enforced from the get-go, for example, Affinity would likely have never become a planned feature. Which sucks because it has the potential to both solve the problem without having to resort to rules, as well as deepen the dinosaur gameplay experience
sour tulip
..thats dum
jovial skiff
Sucho would be semi aquatic I think
so spino can't take that role
maybe Spino still retains its fishing but thats a if
sour tulip
I think maybe juve spino should be able to be sustained by fish
because you can feed a juve rex by giving it tacos or oros so why not juve spino with fish?
unborn quail
Ask me, both sucho and spino should follow a 'become more terrestrial as you grow' trend
With sucho xapping at a certain point
sour tulip
Also spino should be able to fish in rivers
unborn quail
And remaining mostly semi aquatic
sour tulip
because that is what it does
cobalt mist
All semi-aquatic will be able to feed on fish when they are placed in I'm sure
sour tulip
Like lets say spino is dieing of starvation it could just put its face in the water and fish
and real big fish lived in rivers back when spino boy was alive
oblique dust
spino's being reworked into the big bad apex.
unborn quail
Spino wont be semi aquatic. Its moreso all spinosaurids and austro will be able to fish
Rex is a brawler
oblique dust
supposedly, rex won't be that anymore. unless if that was recently changed?
unborn quail
Spino will be a tank, most likely
jovial skiff
like the cera that we have
unborn quail
Get out @jovial skiff
sour tulip
anway i still like my fishers eating drowned corpses
jovial skiff
sour tulip
- eating drowned corpses might decrease lag because alot of juves drown themselfs
jovial skiff
that sounded wrong
sour tulip
and more corpses more lag...
jovial skiff
"juvies drowned themselves"
sour tulip
hey its what they do..
cobalt mist
Spino is a semi-aquatic
That makes no sense if they wanted it real. Spinos lived mostly in water...
jovial skiff
Balance > realism
cobalt mist
Welp, they lost a great amount of people who are dino lovers to the extreme
oblique dust
I mean, it should've been obvious that the game wasn't aiming for realism, with the way that the rex and the utah raptor were designed.
though utah raptor isn't technically utah raptor anymore, but still
unborn quail
Most people here are JP people, and they know spino as a bipedal ass kicking machine
oblique dust
then again I think spino will still be semi-aquatic?
unborn quail
It wont
cobalt mist
Spino lovers will either compain about them not being right with the aquatic spino or not play at all because of it and will tell others not to play for the reason. People are weird
oblique dust
spino-lovers are gonna be a very, very minute portion of the playerbase.
unborn quail
🤷
unborn quail
But it will be accurate, more so then it is now @nova shell
cobalt mist
I'll keep playing because it is fun
oblique dust
the game isn't aiming for pure accuracy and that was obvious from the get-go.
cobalt mist
But you know there will be those people around that will do that because of it not being accurate
I would love to see the spino mostly aquatic but if it doesn't happen oh well
I'll keep playing
unborn quail
The game isnt accurate as is, and for the past few days we've had player growth
Not loss
oblique dust
...but at least the game still manages to be more accurate than modern-day JP/JW while giving us dinosaurs that still manage to look cool.
jovial skiff
sure they're people that like aquatic spoon but some people don't. No matter what you do whether its realistic or not there are still some people who won't like it.
cobalt mist
Yea
oblique dust
because seriously, fuck some of JW and JWE's dinosaur desgins, lol.
so many of them are like, ARK levels of bad.
unborn quail
Their Allo is atrocious
jovial skiff
that allo
cobalt mist
Give us feathers lol
oblique dust
I like my fiction and I like dinos looking cool but there's only so much you can do before it goes into full ridiculous territory
oblique dust
feathers are coming into the game for some dinos
jovial skiff
I remember that feathered system
normal fern
@pulsar lake i agree that there needs to be more ai on v3, but i think the values that you proposed should be halved. Otherwise the challenge will be completely removed
unborn quail
Ai is only the way it is due to a bug with Ue4
Which apparently was resolved and should be fixed soon
and by soon I mean now
normal fern
Thats fine then
But a point that i think has relevance is that ai should spawn all over the map, especially away from lakes and bodies of drinkable water. Otherwise theres not much incentive to travel
sweet oasis
@pearl yoke Wrong channel? That's not quite a suggestion
pearl yoke
Oh whoops
sweet oasis
All good 👍
barren zephyr
V3 is a massive map, but after starving to death I didn't realize that AI was actually busted, I thought I just had poor luck. Is AI no longer based on player activity?
barren zephyr
Considering AI is pretty heavily tied to juvi progression, especially for smaller preds.... uh... well shit.
barren zephyr
Last time I played no ai was spawning near me but I eventually found a large pack of 10 or 12 utahs with a herd of oreos all around them. I feel like the ai system just finds the largest congregation of players and spawns all the ai in that area.
swift void
Uh oh my bad
lunar idol
Anyone know how to push the devs to persue the Mac unreal engine issue, it’s been occurring since January 2017
wintry cipher
cant really pressure another company to do something they dont want/havent updated yet sadly.
barren zephyr
A fix has recently been found for the Mac issue. It seems if you get rid of your Mac and buy a real gaming PC all games will work better. 😁
lunar idol
Yea I had a windows
Then that screwed itself sideways so mum forced me to get a Mac lol
wintry cipher
keep that as a school/work computer and save for a windows for games. it works nicely when your fluent in both and can add that to your resume. (....yeah im that sad college student looking for any edge they can get after they graduated)
lunar idol
I’ll look into it haha saving up for a car so tight budget
wintry cipher
yep. priorities
brisk mesa
@honest minnow How about no? If you are in a group chat with 10 people all talking at once
that would be a nightmare to follow
honest minnow
not here to argue, also having the option to turn the function off makes sense. it would make way more sense to know if someone is trying to reach you because there's no DM's and you cant request invite to group, and there's no global chat, so basically unless you know about the discord you're screwed
brisk mesa
or, you speak in local chat, and someone standing beside you sees you roaring, they check it out, and see you tryna request to join group?
F call is the roar made when chatting.
last remnant
He’s saying that instead of roaring.
last remnant
He’s saying that you wouldn’t need to do that.
brisk mesa
No what they are saying is you get a notification when someone messages in a given channel
honest minnow
I'm saying sometimes people dont notice, and if you're no were near them you wont hear it.
brisk mesa
Then go into group chat instead of local?
If something is close to you
and roaring
then you check, at the press of a button
to see if it is talking to you.
honest minnow
just like a window flash or something so like when someone gets killed in a group and you dont notice they can reach you maybe on local or more likely being able to request to join a group makes way more sense
brisk mesa
Ok, adding more features to request being invited
THAT would be good
likewise
maybe a notification if a group member dies
Like, in group a red message would pop up
"Packmate Billydanka died"
honest minnow
at current there's no way to reach out to someone if you die and request to join again.
jovial arch
Request to join
brisk mesa
"Packmate Willywonka logged"
jovial arch
When inviting someone in a group
brisk mesa
Hm hell
why not make it so if you go the same species
you dont leave group by dying?
jovial arch
Sure
honest minnow
that might get more complicated
jovial arch
But also request to join
jovial arch
Otherwise if everyone else is in a group
brisk mesa
game checks if you are same 'team', aka a lifestage of that species
jovial arch
You’re toast
And that does sound potentially griefable
Like you kill someone and still know where they are
brisk mesa
Check what I posted
I thought of that the moment after I typed the "dying?"
the potential of griefing...
hence why it is a prompt.
If you got killed by a group
jovial arch
I still think request to join is nice
brisk mesa
you simply don't accept the prompt
pulsar lake
@jovial arch yes.
Rex need 22 hits to down a trike
brisk mesa
@pulsar lake He found out latter on bc I, Ditto and a man that got banned last night tested it out...
it's wild lol.
brisk mesa
Bonus example #1, Giga would be Crepuscular, so really, REALLY dangerous at Dawn and Dusk, having that ungodly 15 second ambush, and also regaining stamina when trotting... but that's like, 6:00am to 9:00pm & 4:00am to 7:00am, so brief periods where Giganotosaurus rapes your entire soul
Bonus example #2, Carno would be Diurnal, but only starting late morning, so like 9:00am, until like 3:00pm. So while it would benefit from better stamina and have no acceleration, so beware to Utahs dumb enough to fight a Carno around 'noon.
brisk flume
Awesome
brisk mesa
Yeah it looks really good, still a tad buggy tho
leaden night
Anky
brisk mesa
Consequences to my idea:
leaden night
Bush Gigas
brisk mesa
a) AFK progression becomes harder, because your hunger drain would not be constant over your time playing. If you loaf around during your active time, your will screw yourself. If you dont pay attention to when your active time is coming, you are making a huge mistake. So ❌ watching Netflix while growing.
b) It opens a venue for an extra balancing of creatures by making certain matchups be more favored based on time of day. Perhaps a Parasaurolophus would have really bad acceleration, but make its active timeframe during the whole daytime, so it would only ever be faced with this during the night, so it could not run down Dilos or Allos after dark. Maiasaura could be the opposite, more sluggish in day but a nimble deer lad at night.
c) My idea opens the door for further customization, like making certain Dinosaurs better during storms or droughts, or at certain altitudes. You could make 'beach' dinosaurs that excel at low altitudes and alpine dinosaurs excel at higher altitudes.
d) You could make certain creatures weaker than current, but compensate by making them incredibly powerful at their specialized times. Utahraptor could be active in a 'long' Crepuscular, from say 4am to 10am & 4pm to 8pm, these timeframes would have Utah be very deadly, hell, early evening Utah would outclass Dilo, but as the night drags on, it would be far inferior.
e) It would make encounters have extra factors to make things less of a numbers game. Going with that Utah example, if their stam regen tanked they'd call off a hunt if it reached high noon, thus giving an interesting 'thing to actually hold out for'. If I can just fend them off until then, they will have to retreat
brisk mesa
@next nexus I'm curious, why is the idea of letting people have multiple accounts a bad one?
lament thorn
Main reason because they can feed each other and themselves
brisk mesa
And friends cannot do that already?
lament thorn
They could even locate a herd then swap into their carnivore and track them down
next nexus
"my rex is dieing, let me just switch over to my trike i've grown and jump off this ledge, then 'log' back onto the rex i was just pkaying"
yes, people can already do that via other means. That doesn't really justify adding an even easier means to this end
brisk mesa
That's already done, except it requires a) you buy multiple copies or b) you have friends
1 is pay 2 win
lament thorn
It makes it easier tho
brisk mesa
the other is an issue of groups.
Also.
If affnity was shared across all of them
You'd be a moron to try that shit.
Also, that Trike being sacrificed to bring in your Rex?
You need to get over to where your Trex was starving
kill yourself there
and bring your rex in.
If your Trike happens to be at the other side of the map
It can be killed along the way
in which case goodbye food.
lament thorn
Still possible
brisk mesa
Yes, but less possible than having a friend snackrifice LOL
lament thorn
It's just an easier way of feeding yourself without multiple accounts
brisk mesa
Ok, and somehow, it's a huge problem if normal people could do it
without a dedicated KOS group
and paying more money?
You'd need to spend your 6hrs growing a Trike
then sackrifice it to feed your other dinosaur.
lament thorn
Which people will
leaden night
Just use a friend
brisk mesa
can melt their brains for hours
Yes
a friend is more practical.
Than using it yourself.
brisk mesa
Because it's already there?
Because the good of being able to play multiple dinos
Without needing to suicide between them
outweights the bad?
Especially with a perk system
lament thorn
I personally don't think so
brisk mesa
If you wanna get perks on your Carno, and get really good perks on it?
But a friend really wants to be Utah with you
Would that be good game design?
Throw away 10, maybe even 20hrs of investment?
lament thorn
Then don't go Utah you aren't forced to
brisk mesa
smh.
So someone should be stuck playing the same thing
unless they buy another copy of the game?
lament thorn
They aren't stuck
brisk mesa
Sounds pretty dumb to me.
lament thorn
Death is an option
leaden night
Ah yes, time to go suicide this rex I've spent a week on simply because I want to play Galli
brisk mesa
^^^^^^^
brisk mesa
I'm sorry but
Your idea is that, the risk of people exploiting is some massive problem
When a) it's less viable than something already done
b) the same people that do it the current way would do it, perhaps, this way, but not any more people
c) this idea would cuck the pay 2 win people who buy 3 or 4 accounts
lament thorn
I don't see it as less viable
brisk mesa
It's certainly not more viable.
By any stretch of the imagination.
And levels the playing field
Why do you have a problem with that, exactly?
Do you personally feel like it would be unfair to those who've spend $100 to fuck everyone else?
lament thorn
Allo dies, allo gets mad, allo logs into Rex then proceeds to murder it's killers
brisk mesa
Same happens, except it's only the guy who paid $20 for that Rex account
If that guy is mad, well, rn you're fucked
lament thorn
This community doesn't need more help in acting out their revenge fantasies
brisk mesa
Consider a huge swathe of people like to play as many different dinosaurs
Do you brand them as griefers?
A few bad apples spoil the bunch?
Or hell
lament thorn
A few bad apples ruin the fun for the rest
brisk mesa
Given we are going to have 4 factions, why not 1 playable in each?
And those same bad apples ruin the fun
with or WITHOUT such a feature
IDK about you but
If it came down to me having another dino
and I killed someone for them to bring in their revenge machine
leaden night
Wait survivors are still planned?
brisk mesa
It would be pretty, pretty disheartening if bc I dont have another steam account and copy of the game
that i couldnt do anything about them
Mercs, Herbivores, Carnivores, Tribals
4 factions
leaden night
Ah
brisk mesa
the alternative is, let everyone have 1 of each
therefore, your allo dies
and you rush over with your lardass trike?
good luck with that
lament thorn
I just don't see a good reason to give people the option of multiple dinos
naive helm
Why isn't playing on another server an option in this scenario?
If you have an adult rex on one and want to play something else, why not just play on another server?
viral creek
Because I don't like a majority of servers.
lament thorn
@hasty ore and reasons for these dinos?
hasty ore
Iguanodon
I would like him
Because it would add another strong hadrosaur besides shan’t
And carchar could have a special mechanic like super bleed hence the name shark tooth lizard. Or maybe super smell
and for the swipe attacks
Is just like spinosaurids to utilize their arms
I’d*
torn thistle
Body dragging is already planned, and there was a Carcharo model in the old days, but it's used for Juvie Giga.
If Carcharo was gonna be added, it'd just be an alt skin for Giga.
waxen verge
please the shant was not that fast
what is this
shant and trike are what giga and rex are suppossed to be
all dev servers are ruled by people that sit there all day as herba herds just scanning the land to kill any carno and the carnos have no chance of escape what??!!!!
which alternate reality is this
jovial skiff
...
waxen verge
not apex predators running from whats made to be their food
these herbas have to be severly under powered and only have good defences
jovial skiff
So ur saying that herbivores are to strong
waxen verge
im sick of these bored children playing trike power groups
cause they got owned by an apex
jovial skiff
Alpha
ur complaining about something that can't catch u
unless ur a high tier than that herbivore
or its a runner
waxen verge
bro me and my full adult giga partner spent like 45 minutes running from a herd of trikes and shants
and we couldnt even log
this is every session
jovial skiff
Shants aren't in survival so of course they are unbalanced
second Trike can not even keep up with u
waxen verge
and there was like 5 of them scanning the whole area for us
like they are nazis
dev 4
herbavores are suppossed to do the running
waxen verge
true but
barren zephyr
@waxen verge why do you have me blocked
waxen verge
the fun gets taken out fast everytime you go to a dev server and its ruled by 10 trikes
and they dont even let you eat
jovial skiff
Wasn't trike so weak that it can be face tanked 1v1 by a Rex and The Rex can live?
waxen verge
even if your far from them they will follow you until you starve
lament thorn
Yep
waxen verge
its getting so old
barren zephyr
^
waxen verge
trike needs to have like severe bleed damage or something when it gets bitten
its too strong
preadtors are always stronger
with a few exceptions
jovial skiff
Alpha no its not the Dinosaur
its the player
no matter how strong they find power in numbers
barren zephyr
and trike should be one of the strongest things in the game
jovial skiff
and Trike gets destroyed by rexes
lament thorn
Have you ever seen an elephant? I wouldn't say a lion is stronger
Or even a buffalo
languid ember
@jovial skiff not anymore
jovial skiff
it got a buff?
waxen verge
ok so im gonna act then like its a normal thing to be in a dev server and ALWAYS get chased by a herd until you starve
languid ember
No, rex lost its % damage thing
languid ember
Takes 22 bites to kill a trike now for rex
languid ember
But, it might just be a bug as it wasn’t in the patch notes, we gotta wait and see
waxen verge
they suck ass at being predators so they shrivel their sack inside their body and camp out the map as a trike
jovial skiff
The thing is players probably are bored of being herbivores
theres nothing to do really but bush simulator
so they want to have fun by killing other players
waxen verge
fun is not fun when it becomes unfair
waxen verge
its not fair to killa 7 hour dino just because you have nothing better to do literally
jovial arch
Not gonna lie
But nobody has told me how it’s balanced that trike is strong that nothing can really hunt it other than I’m a stupid Rex fanboy
Because it’s simply not balanced for trike to not be hunted by Rex
That’s literally the point of Rex
To hunt trike
It literally sucks at hunting
jovial skiff
How much hits does it take to kill a Rex as a trike?
waxen verge
i always see trike get owned in any motion picture vs a carnivore
jovial arch
Everything else in the fucking game
waxen verge
maybe once or twice the trike gets away with a stab and the rex limps home unless its in his chest or something or eye
wintry cipher
imo trike just needs a turn nerf to be = to rex
wintry cipher
or a mild swap of bleed and dmg
jovial arch
Why another herbivore
wintry cipher
hear me out -allo can survive a single hit from it
jovial skiff
a 7 ton animal turning like a ballerina
languid ember
God no, making trike turn as bad as rex would be horrible Keit
wintry cipher
not quite that bad but yeah
jovial arch
Like
wintry cipher
like
languid ember
Trike turn nerf isn’t a bad idea but making it rex turn is
jovial skiff
it should be 50/50 for Trike and Rex
languid ember
No, he evolved to be the biggest herb asskicker on the planet
waxen verge
giga packs should be able to kill anything
jovial skiff
Thats anky
waxen verge
thats for damn sure
just like a single rex can
gigas hunted argentinasaurus in packs
languid ember
Eh, trike was arguably more dangerous to a rex than an anky
waxen verge
not ran from trikes and shants
waxen verge
true
jovial skiff
Giga hunting huge stuff rex can't hunt at all
Giga relies on killing slow things with its bleed
so Brachi AI is prob Giga food
waxen verge
yea
wintry cipher
think of giga as beign best equipped to hunt elephants and rex being made to hunt the porcupines no one wants to deal with
waxen verge
that would be sick brachi ai
jovial skiff
Rex on the other hand should hunt Armored Herbivores
wintry cipher
...wierd analogy but yes i think of trike as a porcupine
wintry cipher
each predator is best equipped to handle certain prey. some prey run fast, some are armored, or some are just so fucking bigt you cant deal with them, and some hide super well
so youll have tunnel digger/small sneaky preds looking for those tiny herbs, big preds with jaws to crack armor, preds capable of shredding flesh to rend them open, and still more preds that are fast enough to keep up with their prey but perhaps not have enough stam to get them if they dont get a good ambush off
so, like...with that in mind
waxen verge
either way its still a great game but these agro herds are too annoying thats all
and the only other good v3 map is nycta but with no alt turn those utahs will kill you
waxen verge
north dew
Animation and CGI has come a long way
ruby jacinth
South American Carcharodontosaurus 
jovial arch
Uh
I guess it’s not a horrible idea if you could find a niche for it 🤷♀️
But like
On the other hand
Not until way later
New Dinos are way after a long list of much needed gameplay enhancements
edgy echo
@lunar idol sadly the devs can do nothing as far as Mac support goes as the issue lies in the engine they use to build the game, they can only hope it’s updated to support it. I would suggest you get a refund if possible or try bootcamp
edgy echo
It’s a free program it should be already on your Mac there’s lots of tutorials but you do have to have a purchased version of windows 10 to get it working, there’s lot of tutorials so a google search should give you anything you need
But it cuts your memory into two parts one for the windows OS and one for the Mac OS
waxen verge
@ruby jacinth he said carcharadontosaurs not carchardontosaurus
still temple
Carchar is essentially Giga
unborn quail
but better
fading shadow
how is removing the delay worthy of a 🗑
violet magnet
@vernal plank "I would like {starvation} to be a reduction of your "hunting capacities" and then health damage, no just instant death."
but if you're starving you're going to need your full hunting capacity to catch something
barren zephyr
As much as i hate dying from starving
It takes almost 5 hours or more to go through "years" of growth to get from juvie to adult giga
How long would you like it to take
"Years" to starve
Do a better job of keeping your dino healthy
Instead of asking for more time
Goes for me n everybody that starves it happens
waxen verge
I dont think alitttttle longer lasting hunger for a 7 hour apex is an entirely bad idea
vernal plank
Yeah but the hunting time is real. You have to walk a huge map to find food, with food i mean players, because you can't feed a Giga with Tacos all the time... So you grow fast compared to real time. But you starve way too fast for the real time hunting.
uneven barn
It’s not too late to abandon them and focus on dinosaurs
barren zephyr
???
Boi
We've been focused on dinosaurs for a little more than 3 years, humans were, iirc, meant to be added after dinosaurs were finished so that the dinosaurs could function as an ecosystem by themselves without human interaction
I should also add the fact that humans would be a server option
Don't like humans? Find a server where they're disabled
No need to scrap characters that some people have been holding back on buying the game or even bought the game because of these characters pre-emptively just for the lolz
wild pecan
Humans are part of the lore too, and plus i think id be fun to play as humans but after dinosaurs are done, scrapping em is a waste.
blazing charm
@barren zephyr They are entirely reworking the Replay system.
waxen verge
Sure itll be fun to have a game mode were a group of humans have to make it across the map other players being rexes hunting them in the dark during a storm. But i mean besides these 2 games that came out AFTER the isle(and dont look nearly as good), this is literally the only game of its kind and i think you should take it and run with it TONS of people love dinosaurs and TONS of people fill museums and the last two updates saw a dramatic increase in players and there is not ONE bad comment in the youtube comments of any one who streams this game
barren zephyr
oh thanks it's been month @blazing charm that i actually report those bugs , with no sounds no animations dinos that turning on themselves faster than bayblades.
I'm one of those that love make screenshots with the Replay and those last month are really boring for that
blazing charm
It's using very old code right now, issues are to be expected.
All we can do, is be patient.
barren zephyr
happy to know they will fix it
blazing charm
Also, if anyone is interested, I added a paragraph onto my Acro and Alberto documents, just some extra bits regarding their life-cycle.
Just touching them up a tad.
blazing charm
@jaunty nacelle Not entirely sure if I understand where you're coming from, do you mind elaborating?
jaunty nacelle
Sorry if you dont understood 😅 I am from Germany sry for bad writing.
blazing charm
It's perfectly alright, no need to apologise at all.
jaunty nacelle
I was writing about the Alt-Turn abuse and had the idea that it could be enabled for maybe 20 seconds by typing /stuck and could have a cooldown (hope its better now :x)
blazing charm
What exactly do you mean by "Alt-Turn abuse?"
jaunty nacelle
In fights , sometimes you have no chance to hunt something because it keeps alt turning :/
blazing charm
Ah, I see.
Well, it's better than the alternative of having no Alt-turn, you've dealt with "ass-riding" right?
jaunty nacelle
I think there is a reason that some dinos cant turn like a utah
barren zephyr
Jaffad ive read some of your suggestion. Gj
blazing charm
I think you are missing the point, without alt turn combat just becomes an unfun game of "who can get behind the other first"
Also thank you.
Alt-Turn can be easily countered by just having a partner, you can't focus on two people at the same time.
Unless I mistaken, the current Alt-Turn is merely a place holder, in the future you won't just rotate in place, your character will actually step in place to turn around.
Unless something has changed, of course.
jaunty nacelle
Maybe going backwards would be ok but turning in place is awful
umbral prairie
Id like an alt turn with the dinos actually making steps to turn instead of sliding
blazing charm
Not really, again the whole point of Alt-turn is to actually be able to defend yourself from dinosaurs biting your ass.
And again, that will be a thing in the future.
jaunty nacelle
I was hunting a Rex as Carno and he kept alt turning , was trying to hunt but after 30 mins i gave up
blazing charm
First of all, why are you hunting a Trex as a Carnotaurus.
jaunty nacelle
Its possible tho
blazing charm
It's really not.
jaunty nacelle
Takes time but possible
blazing charm
You have to bite it god knows how many times, one bite from it and you're dead.
blazing charm
The only time Carno has been able to kill Rex effectively was when Alt turn wasn't a thing.
And that was awful.
blazing charm
Not being able to do anything about something smaller than you that's just spamming left click is the most frustrating thing imaginable.
He could probably hear you.
blazing charm
Alright, well. I personally have to disagree. But thank you for elaborating.
waxen verge
please keep giga sound volume lol
blazing charm
What suggestion are you...replying to?
crystal minnow
@barren zephyr tell me why should my suggestion go in the trash bin?
barren zephyr
Why would the acceleration be removed
Have sum substance
And dont get hurt at a random strangers opinion
@fading shadow also its not a delay its supposed to be, crouching quickly is alot more obvious when u r trying to hide while hunting
barren zephyr
@crystal minnow alri better
But thats what alt turns for
crystal minnow
you cant alt turn when you still have the effect of sprintspeed slowing
i mean the time it takes to stand sill from running
barren zephyr
Well have you ever ran full speed n tried stopping
Ur asking to kinda remove one of the few things in this game that make sense
crystal minnow
if u hit a tree trotting u stuck the same as running full speed
ik the run speed is carnos ability not its trot
iirc carno and allo are the only 2 who have acceleration. which gives them a disadvantage fleeing from predators by getting stuck on trees
barren zephyr
So ur issue is they are more updated
Meaning eventually ALL dinos would be like this
crystal minnow
its just carno is no fun atm
barren zephyr
So i suggest u get used to it and learn to play around it
valid zephyr
do people think being able to remain in their group on death is a good idea or not? It's just frustrating when you have no way of reminding them to reinvite as they're already part of a group so you can't reinvite them to you.
barren zephyr
N jenkins my first thought was "oh ya you guys wanna kill me" calls isle clan members to hunt down said person
valid zephyr
you can do that anyway if your group remembers to reinvite. it's just a quality of life thing
you used to be able to send invite requests to people already in groups, which they would then decline and invite you back in. That got removed at some point.
barren zephyr
Tbh it could work if some elses suggestion about "alphas" become a thing it could ask the leader of the pack /herd "do you want ______ back in the group"
Its cus nobody wants the random invs that people just spam
valid zephyr
didn't see that one. but an automatic request that they don't have to accept would probs work
next nexus
what if you get added to a group, they use the group to find and kill you, but you want to go the same species again?
barren zephyr
^
valid zephyr
isn't there a leave group option?
barren zephyr
Yes
next nexus
there is also an add to group option
barren zephyr
@blazing charm ?
blazing charm
That sounds very exploitable.
barren zephyr
What do you mean? Nesting has literally no meaning right now. Nesting is worst option. People rather spawn as juvie and go to their friends, since eggs take too long and while you walking towards your friend u get + growth. Even if you die once, you will still meet your friend sooner than the egg being cooked
valid zephyr
the add to group option doesn't help the player that died
i play with god knows how many new players a night. no way can i remember each of their names to re add when they die
blazing charm
Even if the egg cooking time was made shorter, you would still have to grow.
barren zephyr
Begrateful u dont have to be an egg
But you wouldn't choose the spawn as juvie and walking for hour method
wich is superior than nesting rn
And be victim to 101 things in the way to my friends?
Instead of being nested
Bring taken care of
Free food
Free protection
Uh ya
One is clearly superior
Yeah every sitation is what you described 🤦
brisk mesa
King I have to respectfully disagree with the Shant suggestion.
barren zephyr
Ur highness*
brisk mesa
Not because I don't think it could be balanced or playable, not at all, but unlike your others that gave something an actual ability...
an actual "niche"
yours just was like 'lemme nerf the shit outta this man"
Rework his attacks, if you will.
I understand Shant is hard to work with but it doesn't feel fleshed out like your other ideas to where it's actually doing something well.
brisk mesa
Shantungosaurus isn't just 'extra large Parasaur', that's as much justice as saying 'Giga is extra large Allo'
An actual ability?
blazing charm
Well.
barren zephyr
Its massive
blazing charm
Why can't the stomp be it's ability?
barren zephyr
Its a passive not an active
brisk mesa
That's a joke right?
You cant compare Stomp to say,
Snapping something's spice, aka Rex
Eating shit alive, aka Giga
Velocity, aka Carno
Impaling a bastard, aka Trike.
blazing charm
I mean, slamming something into oblivion seems pretty unique to me.
brisk mesa
Stomping is an alternate attack many dinosaurs have.