general-feedback-discussion

[ebon geyser]

But you realistically wouldn't need more than one gun to be effective

[charred goblet]

Maybe against the smaller dinos, but I doubt even an M4 would do much against a mid-weight herbivore

Too much bulk and mass to be deterred by tiny boolet

And you’d better believe I’d have a blast playing as galli weaving through gunfire to kick a foo to death

[quartz meteor]

@quick ice I thought gaining nutrition from eggs was disabled

[ebon geyser]

It would if they're going for realism

I really don't know what their plan is, iirc they've mentioned taking inspiration from EFT/DayZ but that could mean they try to model bullets as they are in real life or it could be as stupid as mag dumping a dude's helmet with a full ak mag and still not killing him because you had FMJ

[limber hull]

well if the guns actively are impacting 3000+ HP targets in single rounds, then it's just not going to be very interesting for human v human combat with their >100HP

[charred goblet]

Much like actual war, then

[ebon geyser]

You say this in a game where 9 ton animals can be pinned and killed in one animation

The current balancing agenda doesn't seem very bent on fun or interesting gameplay (pinslop, if you will)

[limber hull]

i honestly really don't see what that has to do with anything

i was just saying that human v human combat is something they wanna do, and making a gun do like, 200+ damage is just gonna nuke any human that gets so much as hit on the foot

[junior nymph]

dear god pinslop... but also no thats literally not how its going to work

[ebon geyser]

So you make it locational damage, like in tarkov/dayZ, you get hit in the foot and you don't die, but a dino will die if you hit center of mass, same thing doesn't apply if you hit the legs/tail/whatever though

[wintry cipher]

id expect given how small humans are the better play would be to keep guns to kill things that are actually going to find and hunt you like raptors or smaller creatures. an adult rex for example is likely not going to spot you as long as you sit still for a minute

[limber hull]

but why would you do that if the inevitable outcome is genuinely unfun instakill by gun garbage lmao

[ebon geyser]

Well don't ask me bruh

[limber hull]

you're the one who made the suggestion?? lol

[ebon geyser]

I made no suggestions

If their plan is tarkov/dayz-esque, thats what it would look like

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

i legitimately cannot fathom why you would take allosaurus and turn it into a carnivore version of maia

[urban flax]

Best I can think of would be giving guns a special "piercing damage" type that applies modifiers twice
So headshots deal 1.5x1.5 damage (so 2.25x damage) and tailshots do 0.0625x damage

So it rewards good aiming while keeping gun damage low enough that a human has a chance of surviving a gunshot

With strongest guns dealing around 100 base damage

[urban flax]

I just saw ambush and downvoted, didn't read the rest

[limber hull]

i love this because it would just mean trike heads do not remotely care about guns lmao

[charred goblet]

The schoolbus of pain goes where it pleases

[limber hull]

im hoping anky is effectively unwavered and uncaring when it comes to bullets

[snow python]

How the elder system work pls tbh i dont understand

[ebon geyser]

What did I say 😭

[junior nymph]

the one thing that you could have said

they used to allow swearing, but since the discord got big they kinda made it so you cant anymore

[ebon geyser]

Ah right

[ebon geyser]

Walk to sanctuary, walk to migration zone (2 to be safe), walk to a couple patrol zones (4 or 5), have perfect diet, don't be infertile (eat your own species or hit 0% diet)

Bonus points if you are nested in or nest yourself

[urban flax]

Precisely

With that calculation system a powerful gun (probably a sniper rifle) 's shot to a trike's head would deal 1.5 damage

If the trike is blocking

[mental mountain]

#general-feedback message @charred goblet this is planned

[charred goblet]

Ah, good

Kind of expected it tbh

[proper bluff]

my bad, but i swear there were posts of this thing. i heard somewhere that the idea was being brought up again, but it wasnt a reliable source now that i think abt it.

[wintry cipher]

insofar as i know, "camera changes" are happening, but as to what they are we don't know beyond don giving it to someone more skilled than him to prevent motion sickness and a few other comments on what wouldn't work for it. so its kinda just a wait and see

a change to the camera might not even change the perspective of how you see the game technically

[charred tide]

@graceful widget tupandactylus isnt in ark

[graceful widget]

Tapejara is and what they use for tapejara is actually tupandactlyus

commonly mistaken or portrayed as a tapejara but they were reclassified as tupandactlyus

[charred tide]

wdym reclassified

[graceful widget]

They Originally Thought Tapejara and Tupandactlyus were the same genus. they are actually not so they reclassified into Tupandactlyus and Tapejara

[charred tide]

you seem to know a lot about tupandactylus

i wonder what your favorite pterosaur is

[graceful widget]

its beween Tupandactlyus and Hatzegoptryx

[vast cloud]

@reef lynx TRUE

[static kernel]

How are fish spawns still messed up. Its been a year and the game cant spawn fish in a lake.

[nova moth]

i dont like how croc cant see out from underneath the water at all anymore, especially since the water is more clear from above now

[foggy field]

Fish are fine?

[wooden agate]

yeah i've had no issue with fish on HT

[boreal sparrow]

For anyone crying about the dark just turn your gamma up and leave my dark nights alone thx

[charred goblet]

No, I don’t think I will.

[limber hull]

doesn't that completely defeat the point of "dark nights" if you're just turning up your gamma to make it brighter?

[boreal sparrow]

For the people crying they can just do that I'm saying?

[knotty blade]

For the ppl that put an X https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120 here lol you guys must have no life 🤣

[wooden agate]

tbh it just sounds like youre forcing yourself to play a game that isnt meant for you lol

[boreal sparrow]

we need a 5x for each region for the people with jobs

[limber hull]

what exactly do you want from the game? it has always been about growing a dinosaur over the course of a few hours, that's been the fundamental gameplay loop since the start of survival

[limber hull]

eh

[knotty blade]

🤣 okay

[wooden agate]

unofficials exist for a reason plus the mixpacking/hackers were horrid on that server iirc

[wooden agate]

i mean... would you play tetris and then complain about the blocks?

[boreal sparrow]

not on horde test they dont

[wooden agate]

so... dont play hordetest?

[boreal sparrow]

get a job and youd understand g

[knotty blade]

lol I dont argue with ppl that dont have a life 😘

[boreal sparrow]

i play ht cause its the newest update

[wooden agate]

you dont have a few hours to put into a game

bit ironic to say im the one with no life

but regardless, path of titans may offer something more your style

[boreal sparrow]

that makes no sense but ok

[icy lion]

Time to drop the conversation

[knotty blade]

nah never liked that one

[knotty blade]

9 hrs isnt a "few" hours thats a job haha

[limber hull]

you don't have to play the 9 hour animal, nor do you have to do the complete grow in one session

[knotty blade]

ooo so scared lol not like I didnt see that

[icy lion]

Alrighty then

[wooden agate]

@crimson torrent good idea on paper, terrible execution most likely

discord has a channel limit of 500, each ticket would be a new channel

even privatized channels count towards that limit

unofficials actually run into this issue sometimes as well, when i was admin for islander we hit that 500 limit pretty often

and with,,, hold on

well i dont know how many people are here but iirc its well over 100k

couple that with how often the "hacker" reports arent hackers (which is more common than you'd think tbh), lots of potential for mess

im hoping that as the game gets further along, more functionality is added to the report feature in game. right now i believe it only informs devs of a hacker, but having it directly ping an admin would be ideal.

of course, that would be alot of potential pings so maybe moreso just a message in a channel would work as well.

but that could also work fairly well with community servers if made customizable enough, being able to dictate what discord channel the report feature funnels into. would make it easy to report RBs and such in some more realism-esque servers, via sending the info to that communities discord as soon as it happens

[junior nymph]

@proper mantle and how would that even happen

[proper mantle]

what is confusing you? in the videos the paleontologist watches scenes from Jurasic Park and other movies and gives feedback. In this instance the paleontologist could look at the dinosaur designs, noises, animations. Fights in game, maybe some of the cinematic videos that they have released.

[junior nymph]

yea I understand what you want

I mean like.. a paleontologist would have to choose to do that

[proper mantle]

obviously. instead of releasing a video of trail cam footage like they did last time they could interview a paleontologist over skype or something. This isn't really something out of reach I feel like.

[junior nymph]

yea but like

why would they do that? Everything in the game isnt realistic or paleo accurate so it would just be a waste of money

ya know

[proper mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[urban flax]

This is the kind of thing that can only happen if a paleontologist decides to do it themselves, it's not a thing game devs can just ask them to do

[proper mantle]

i mean how much money would they really have to pay a paleontologist to watch clips for an hour and give feedback. obviously a lot of the stuff will not be realistic, just like in the videos about Jurassic Park etc, but it would be cool to see how close to the mark they come in some places. It would also serve as content and marketing, I bet dinosaur fans that saw a video like that in their feed would check it out

[proper mantle]

right, its against the law for a studio to ask a paleontologist for an interview

[junior nymph]

^

[urban flax]

This has nothing to do with the law, but has everything to do with how people function and act

[limber hull]

i dont know who this feedback is for? its directed to a third party to make a video review on the game rather than anything the game itself can do

it'd be cool, yea, i agree, i just... don't know who the target audience is

[junior nymph]

yea

[urban flax]

It's not honest, or won't feel honest, if the devs are the one asking for it

[proper mantle]

hmmm maybe this feedback channel is for the devs to see? might be a stretch i guess

[limber hull]

okay but like

[proper mantle]

i mean its called "general feedback" and thats the feedback I have

[limber hull]

you want a paleontologist to do an isle review

[proper mantle]

did you read my original post?

i don't even know why i am explaining this, i couldnt care less what any of yall think, i put it in the feedback section for the devs

https://tenor.com/view/jake-gyllenhaal-bye-bye-gif-7990496184851258495

[limber hull]

yea? you want a paleontologist to do an isle review like they've done for dino movies, which is fine, i just don't see what the devs have to do with that

[proper mantle]

so what, is the server admin supposed to ask?

who else would ask man its a small studio

[limber hull]

i mean, you could ask a paleontologist to do it

[urban flax]

I think you're the one who should ask them

[limber hull]

like you're asking the devs to ask a paleontologist to do a review, where you could just find a paleontologist who likes to do review and suggest they do the isle, there's tons of paleontological youtubers out there with small followings who do stuff just like that

[cyan flame]

I'm not sure it makes sense for random person to ask, rather than the devs/studio that it concerns. An "official" request makes a lot more sense and is more likely to be taken into consideration and responded to in the first place. Maybe if it's the community as a whole asking, it might work, but that seems like it'd be kind of hard to pull off.

[urban flax]

That's not really how these analysis channels work

[cyan flame]

Really? What kind of exceptions have you found then? Cause that is how it makes sense to work, analysis channel or otherwise

[urban flax]

If it's the studio asking for the review it's an ad

Most of the time the youtuber decides themselves who they analyse, and they may take their community's suggestions for that

The analysis channels I watch, namely Skallagrim and Entrer en Lice, do exactly that

[cyan flame]

Wonder if that's the same channel I know of, but I wouldn't call Skallagrim an analysis channel really, though maybe we mean different things with that then. And while they can of course decide, that does not at all mean they can't take requests, or be asked. And if someone takes suggestions from random people, I don't know, that does not seem all that serious perhaps. And I certainly would not confuse a review with an advertisement of something. So that makes even less sense.

Though an analysis is not a review, nor an ad, so not sure how that's even relevant

[urban flax]

If a game dev asks you to review their own game it's gonna be perceived either as an advertisement or sponsored content
That's why it's not on them to ask for it

[cyan flame]

It is still on them to ask for it, if they want it. Just because someone might see something a certain way, does not mean it is that way. But maybe expecting people to think that much and far is too much to ask. Though I suppose there's little point in arguing about it, if this is going to come down to choice of words and all.

[urban flax]

It's also the same with these "real shaolin reviews For Honor Shaolin", "ex-bankrobber analyses Payday 2", "real marine reviews Call of Duty"

Most of these guys often just got someone asking them "hey there's this game that tries to portray your job, mind checking it out and see how accurate it is ?"

Some make this their main job
Others don't
But it's never the game devs asking

[urban flax]

We're tlaking about a youtube video
How it's gonna be perceived is literally all that matters

[cyan flame]

Most of those sounds well, rather unprofessional, and not really what I would expect from what you'd refer to as an analysis channel to be honest.

So maybe that's the issue, I have a bit of a different expectation for what such a channel is and does

They come off more as a fun thing someone is doing, not a proper, serious thing. Nothing wrong with that, just so we're clear, but not what I would consider a proper analysis

[urban flax]

Unprofessionnal ? How so ? Because they're not youtubers ? What matters is that they're talking about something they actually know about
i.e : their job

If it was a youtuber doing it, then what value would it have ? Their job is to make youtube videos, they didn't spend their life learning paleontology to know how it actually works

[cyan flame]

"Not youtubers"? Strange way to put it I think. But I think you might be misunderstanding a bit here, I'm not questioning someones knowledge, nor do you have to be the one both doing the video and being the one in the video explaining things after all. I'm merely saying it does not seem like it's their purpose to make analysis videos, rather than going "Hey, what do you think of this based on yourself". Which is why I say it sounds, emphasis on that word, not quite professional, and more for fun.

[urban flax]

What should it be based on if not their knowledge ?

[cyan flame]

Hence then why I disagree with "how it works", because it makes no sense for what I was imagining the channels to be and do, compared to what you're making them out to be and do

[urban flax]

The way you're phrasing it, you seem to imply that I'm making this stuff up

[cyan flame]

Not at all, just that when I read "analysis channel" my comment on how it works is based on what I consider such a channel and how it would work. Which does not seem to be the same as what channels you're thinking of. Nothing more than that.

But it's basically more, I'm thinking of it as a proper, documentary style channel whos job/purpose is to analyse stuff. Versus a person having a job going "Okay, I'm going to give my take on this from how I see it". These two are not the same things, at least not to me.

[urban flax]

Ok then, take the example of The Angry Videogame Nerd. It's still not game devs asking him to review their games

[cyan flame]

Hence the whole official request rather than random commenter and all that, why I said it works differently than you say it does, because we're not, apparently, talking about the same kind of thing

[cyan flame]

Which does not mean you can't ask for one, though in this case it's not a game review anyway, so doesn't quite apply

The ask was for a "review", or well, analysis, of how accurate the critters in the game was, not how good or bad, or even what the game in question is otherwise

[serene plaza]

have they fixed the fish spawning rates for deino

i havent played the game in 3 months so i dont know if they have fixed it or not

[frank notch]

Ngl... it only makes sense for herreras to carry their babies on their back.

As for allo.

I still think that it's claws should be the main thing about it.

Smallest critters? They 1 tap them mostly. But I still think allo should fixate on the bleed attribute of their kit.

Right now it's just pinning sim

[desert arch]

Hordetest had plenty of fish from my experience
And the update is just about to go live in a couple minutes so yeah it should be fixed

[frank notch]

I respect the allo mains that refuse to use the pounce/pin

I still think- only smaller allos should be able to use the pin/pounce function. It doesn't make sense for that large of an animal to jump onto its target. (Unless the anims have been changed.

[lusty token]

So many people in studio so many money from buying game and they can turn on servers...

[limber hull]

what

[latent olive]

that man speaks in riddles and truths

[boreal sparrow]

I had a stroke reading that thanks

[languid obsidian]

What are the best mutations for a rex?

[junior nymph]

@mental gate they dont ban people for things like that

they ban people for being racist etc etc

its just a myth

[mental gate]

I am being racist, againsts the devs

same same

[junior nymph]

I mean

at that point you are asking to be banned

[mental gate]

Well if you think Dev is a race then okay XD

No one likes to be criticised for their work and many people find it emotive rather than constructive so im dipping anyway I just hope they stop downgrading the UI

[outer willow]

Does anyone know why I’m getting lag spikes? I have all the same settings as before the update and it used to run perfectly, now it’s all lag.

[junior nymph]

I dont think that

you are just kinda saying stuff for the sake of saying stuff

[real galleon]

Anyone else feel like they're getting sick from the UI?

[reef lynx]

Gives me a migraine lol

[real galleon]

Same

[limber hull]

@teal parrot#general-feedback message

there's a mutation that does quite literally exactly that

[grim hornet]

@icy lion Any reason on why you X the post?
Feedback would be nice 🙂

[icy lion]

A UI isn't just a coat of paint they put over the game, a lot of work has to be done to curate and maintain it. You'd effectively be doubling the amount of work needed to be done if anything new is added to the ui, or if anything needs to change

[teal parrot]

That’s cool but something as basic and existential as food having a little moisture in it should not be only in a mutation. Mutation should enhance the basic feature, I think. So the animal can get up to 50% hydration from eating (if they are eating aquatic plants for example).

[grim hornet]

I don't understand how they're work is doubled when both version are already completed.
It can just be na option to Restart your game then it will change to fit with performance, Like graphic settings.

[icy lion]

They're not both completed, the game is still in development and UI elements will need to change with it

The old UI was unfinished, so is the new one

They would effectively have to develop two UIs at once

[grim hornet]

How come?
Last time I played it, it was working fine

[icy lion]

"Working fine" is different than "finished"

[grim hornet]

They don't need to develop anything they are both working fine

[icy lion]

Nevermind

[grim hornet]

What was something with the old Ui that was not working?

In my Experience there was barly any Issues

Seems like you can't give any Examples of how is isn't working

[cyan flame]

There was not neccesarily something wrong, but it wasn't finished, since the game isn't finished. And so if they're changing UI, they'll develop the new one, and not continue with the old one as well.

[grim hornet]

The thing is that if there is nothing wrong with the old ui (Correct me If I'm wrong if there is) then why can't we just make it an Option to change it with a restart option like Some Graphic settings?

[cyan flame]

Because in order for it to work in the long run, the UI will need to be updated, just like the new one will be. The UI isn't finished, neither the old or new one. Hence the "double work", because you'd have to update both UI if you want them available down the line. The current game, and UI isn't finished. It's not a matter of there being something wrong, but rather that there is more things to be added and so on.

[grim hornet]

I can agree with that Honestly.
I can see how both are not Finsihed but Imo the old one seems more advanced/better then the one we have now.

the old one Imo has these Qualities:

• Better Visuals
• The server lists were bigger ( you could see a lot and don't need to scroll down a lot like the one we have now)
• The majority of the Community prefers the old one
• The skin creator section with the map is contrasting with the new ui and looks Unfinished

[sharp ledge]

Yeah but i mean that's what you should be expect from an early access game. It's in development, I'm sure it will get better.

[icy lion]

@mild rampart Press Enter

[mental heath]

they did my Hypsilodon so dirty man, I had an all bright green and now it's all gone, replaced by puke browns

my cool Stego got ruined as well

[mild rampart]

What's that supposed to do? The screen is still fully blurred and the status window is in the way of all the guages. I can kinda hover over the stam meter and see its percentage but not the rest.

[icy lion]

You can hover over the stats when the chat is open

[mild rampart]

Yep, that works, but it's still a downgrade in terms of functionality.

[cyan flame]

Well, the new one is most likely going to be more developed and refined, which should solve the things mentioned. Obviously if there's weird contrast or unfinished things or other issues, that'll get fixed. If it's a matter of taste of the UI, I can see an argument, but they want the new UI style and aesthetic, even if the old one might appeal to people.

[grim hornet]

Tbh I don't really Think the argument of Early access would work in this Argument.
We can still talk about things that are wrong with something that is still in development.
It feels like we have went back a step In terms of the ui instead of a step forward.

[grim hornet]

Sure I don't mind waiting to see what the Devs do next but I just thought This is worth talking over

[cyan flame]

@vital quarry I think we're supposed to get the colors back, but in specific palettes, so there's more control over the kind of questionable color combinations people can make. Hopefully that'll happen sooner rather than later.

[icy lion]

@mental heath

[vital quarry]

😭please sooner devs. All my creatures are so bland and ugly!

[grim hornet]

I miss my Omni skins 😭

[cyan flame]

I know, I lost out on some cool skins myself (lemon stego), but we'll get there again

[mental heath]

ye

[vital quarry]

I miss the blues on Herrera and trood

[cyan flame]

Holding out hope for a coral snake dilo/troodon palette, I think that'd be cool

[grim hornet]

Tbh I don't really mind waiting for any Ui or skin change since it's just Customisation and not something that really affects the game negatively.
Just to say I think the devs done great work with other things in this Update.

[calm scroll]

We need our colors back asap

[lyric palm]

I'm agree. All my hypsis skins are destroyed 🙁 I've the choice with black shades and other black shades now. Where are my blue/green one? My red? My purple? Why are the hypsis so ugly now? 😭 Why so dark colors? Blue color for Stego is disappeared, too. It's so disappointing. One of my friend had a so lovely skin with white/blue pale colors on his stego. His 2-yo skin is completely destroyed, too, now. Why!? Why? 😭

[lyric palm]

Yeah I know, I read that

But I didn't expect it would be THAT bad

If it remains like that, I will NEVER play a hypsi again in my life (and gods know at which point I love this dino). I won't play a dino who doesn't please me at view and these colours don't please me AT ALL. These colour palettes are all the same for me: no variation/variety, all darker ones, all depressing.

[marsh glacier]

will there ever be a mutation for certain dinos like pt or troo to be able to eat carrion? i think pt as a vulture would be a neat play 🙂

[lyric palm]

I just checked: almost ALL of my skins are literally DESTROYED. Only 2-3 dinos have skins intouched. Very limited to play with then. I ragequit. Literally

[waxen wing]

Made it to about 50%, didnt see a single one from swamp and up delta (maybe I didnt make it far enough) plenty of deer/boar/chicken though

[final jetty]

The Queue is completely broken. Cannot play the game unless you join an empty server.

[wind mesa]

@versed shale #general-feedback message can i ask why not?

[versed shale]

hmm.. my bad, i did not read that deep.. i don't know why, but my eyes skipped Of course there can be some restrictions to still prevent the eye sores you are trying to avoid, such as some colours being able to be put together on the same dino. this would be able to avoid some eyesores whilst still allowing more unique blends, even if the exclusion parameters could get quite long lol. your suggestion not bad ^^

[wind mesa]

ohhh ok thankyou very much ^^

@wild lodge #general-feedback message if u dont mind can i ask why not?

[icy lion]

@leaden pond Have you deleted the config folder?

[opaque dune]

I'm annoyed that my little tortoiseshell colored bepi is gone
Couldn't even let us keep the sandy and cream colored hues?
Reptiles and birds are literally the most diverse range of color irl outside browns blacks and greys 😭

[icy lion]

@floral onyx

[floral onyx]

It’s feed back lol

[icy lion]

I know, I'm telling you that color palettes are being expanded

[floral onyx]

Apparently I can’t read today - don’t mind me

[ivory reef]

Raptor pounces standing still stuck on the Dino you pounce. Probably allos too?
PT spear fishing not working during day time
Galli hitbox/ kick register broken AF
Meat stuck in mouth bug
Fatal errors erasing prime progress

[floral onyx]

I hope there is some sort of hot fix because this is wild

[carmine berry]

again can this 351,668.75, 93,262.25, 20,297.375 not be a spawn as you spawn into a rock. i put it before and it got deleted?

[cyan arch]

Im genuinely about to uninstall the game, such a waste of money if they are just gonna take away from the things that makes this game fun

[icy lion]

Bugs go in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[wind mesa]

its temporary while they rework colours

[carmine berry]

thanks

[boreal sparrow]

They're making it so if you select red you can go and make it green and orange too, just let them cook for now

Also welcome to the allo pin meta everyone

[floral onyx]

Yeah my song bird is gone too… red checks with light blues and yellows…. RIP song birds

[floral onyx]

Yeah for now we gotta retire the hypsi til that happens or just play a lil less bold

[leaden pond]

no why ?

[icy lion]

It helps with performance

[leaden pond]

alright thx for the tool !

[leaden pond]

do u know how to do it ?

[icy lion]

1. If running The Isle, exit the game.
2. Press the Windows key
3. Type %localappdata% then press Enter.
4. Find "TheIsle" folder. Delete it. Note: This will reset any of your custom settings to their defaults and wipe saved skin presets

[leaden pond]

thx ! i will try it

[boreal sparrow]

@fathom sorrel

[thin rock]

why the game is broken with too many rollbacks?

[inland spire]

OMg the interface, you cant check your health nor stomach level

[boreal sparrow]

Hit enter and use your mouse

[inland spire]

sigh, hate downgrading😪

[cyan arch]

I dont get the whole eyesore thing as far as dino colors goes? Why cant people just play with whatever colors they want? The map is big if you see an eyesore go somewhere else.. or am I missing something?

[soft sinew]

Why are these dilo clones still coming after i killed the guy XD

im hiding on top of a rock

[cyan flame]

Because you're still affected by the venom, even if the dilo is dead

[soft sinew]

Yeah but he cant click the ability anymore, and they kept coming]

[cyan flame]

That's because the venom does spawn some clones on it's own too, not just the manual ones the dilo can trigger

[soft sinew]

Really? i didnt know that, Thnx for the info !

[chilly ermine]

I totally understand having a 'pallet' that guides players to more realistic color combinations. I also agree that some just look like clown paint. I do however find it ironic that the color pallet for dinos was restricted even though the player chooses those colors, while the UI color, which a player has no choice but to look at, is so disliked right now...

[chilly ermine]

optics, the correlation is the choice of what players are allowed/have to look at

[cyan flame]

Well, the UI is in one color at least, not a mix and match of the various options (if they're still there)

If you could mix and match however, I imagine that could look pretty bad

[chilly ermine]

yes, but unless I get nested I don't have to look at those color combos for very long, as apposed to the ui

[cyan flame]

Unless you chose them when you spawned in, and everyone who meets you have to deal with you looking like a walking eyesore

Which to be fair, can be solved by running away or killing you, but still

[boreal sparrow]

im more worried about cleaning the blur around the icons

[chilly ermine]

I totally agree that many colors look bad. I just don't understand why everyone is forced to look at a ui that many people have complained about. It's just puzzling that's all. I think a visual continuity should be across the board. The ui currently looks like a "I think this looks cool" decision. And thats fine too I guess becasue it's a dev choice. It just feels strange to not have the same principle across the board with visual pleasantness

[cyan arch]

I feel like of all the things that needed to be fixed, colors matter the least, unless its adding colors. I dont yuck anyone's yum, the answer is simple, you dont like it? Go literally anywhere else or kill them..

[cyan flame]

I'd say that depends on what the UI complaints are. Are they complaining that you can pick and choose it in a way that makes it look horrible, or are they just unhappy with the current iteration, be it the color choices, the brightness of them, or just the design? Because the issue with the skins is the ability to mix colors that really don't go well together, not so much a matter of brightness or even the color choices themselves. I'd say they are trying to apply the same principle, more of a solid color, more so with the UI obviously, but similar with the pallet kind of.

[cyan flame]

Fair enough, I don't neccesarily disagree, though there are some color combos that are really questionable. But that's not how the devs see it, and if they want to limit the color options to colors that go well together, well that's fine too. As long as we end up getting multiple pallets and thus various color schemes, most should be able to make good looking skins that they're happy with.

[cyan arch]

Im just salty about what they have done to hypsi.

[wind mesa]

do remember this though

it is all temporary

[cyan flame]

Understandable, but unneccesary, since they do plan to give us color options back

[cyan arch]

When?

[cyan flame]

No idea, whenever they get to it I guess. But as shown in the screenshot above from the devblog, they do have plans for more options. Hopefully that'll be sooner than later, but in any case the current situation isn't planned to be the end

[cyan arch]

I only play this game to play a pretty bird so hopefully its not a looong wait, ill go play other games until its fixed :/

[cyan flame]

Fair enough, and that's a pretty good idea. The Isle has its ups and downs, and having other games to play, or just other things to do, is good.

[opaque dune]

Played for 3(ish) hours and can safely say I cannot play this game as it is right now. The UI makes my eyes hurt and head throb and within an half hour of playing I get a headache.
It also doesn't fit right whether its fullscreen or windowed fullscreen.
The graphics even though I have it on epic/ high and it looked beautiful pre-update it now looks WORSE post update everything has this weird pixelization to it that adds to me getting a headache while playing.
The loss of colors for some of my favorite dinos (Bepi, Herrera, Hypsi and Troo )made me even less enthused to play even though I genuinely wanted to.
I really hope stuff gets fixed because this isn't the Isle I fell in love playing.

[lean kernel]

gotta love how every patch for this game makes it worse. can these devs do anything without breaking something?

[cyan arch]

i thought we were just getting new dinos, which made this update seem so exciting, and instead we just got a whole bunch of stuff we didnt need/ hate.

[tidal wharf]

guys can someone help me

i restarted the isle and clicked on unofficial servers but all the servers ive played on before are gone there are just some weird ones if never seen

[icy lion]

@frigid badge It's already back

[frigid badge]

it is? last night i was playing and it didn’t work

[boreal sparrow]

@obsidian jetty it does get bigger what do you even mean

[obsidian jetty]

I mean it used to be more clear before

[boreal sparrow]

Things change, they're small at a distance and get bigger 🤷🏻

[solemn spade]

I really wish the update would roll back honestly

[obsidian jetty]

maybe I'm just getting old and need glasses, but I feel like the distance is harder to determine than it was before.

[boreal sparrow]

I wish you guys that don't want to play this update would just go to legacy cause this is evrima now, everyone cried for months for the update to drop and since everyone's been nothing but ungrateful tbh

I think it's just because the symbols are different but they definitely all still get bigger as you get closer

[honest violet]

unstuck command not working?

[boreal sparrow]

Yall should've been in the horde test helping push it in a direction you'd like instead you didn't and this is what they're going with it won't ever roll back so just deal with it and start to ask for some changes to be made to this update, the old evrima is gone and they're not gonna put it back up and split playerbase between legacy, Spiro,evrima (old) and evrima (new)

@crude light Make sure you don't have any foliage physics or lumen on

[crude light]

no its an isle exclusive

yeah and i was told its "Foliage physics" lmao

[solemn spade]

Agree, the game was still quite fun until last night but my gameplay today was just so buggy and the UI really hurts my eyes after a while

[boreal sparrow]

I didn't say that was it i said just turn that off if you're poor and have a bad pc

[weak tartan]

everyone is agreeing with drew except kryptik 😭

[boreal sparrow]

Performance wise the games fine even on my kids midrange pc🤷🏻

[crude light]

lmao my game runs just fine before this update but okay bud, literally could not load up the game or actually get into a server ive been sitting on this joining session for eight minutes

for real like

[boreal sparrow]

There's always legacy boys

[weak tartan]

the performance is NOT fine 😭 they should just use legacy optomization

exactly

[boreal sparrow]

It's a completely different engine brother your pc just doesn't run it as well

[weak tartan]

and add horrible looking ui that nobody likes, yeah that'l do the trick!!!

the isle is going nowhere if they keep doing stuff like this 😭

ark is fine wdym??

lowk true, but asa is lowk kinda cooking, im getting a new pc so im gonna be on there all day

[obsidian jetty]

ok, I think it's the range...I just did a quick test...I think the minimum size is the issue. There's no difference in size between the screenshot taken at point 3 and the one taken at point 2. The one taken at 1 is bigger.

[boreal sparrow]

Yeah I think it's possibly cause they buffed scent range, that's more helpful please edit your feedback and include the images and info there

[obsidian jetty]

yessir

[warped peak]

i feel bad complaining about hypsi of all things in 2025 but honestly i should not be spending up to 5 minutes trying to climb a damn tree on a playable because it keeps shooting me off or not letting me point anywhere on the tree other than directly in my face.

even when it finally SHOWS you where you can go on hypsi its never accurate like it is on herra. Why give a playble climbing if youre going to make it genuinely this awful TOO climb on?

[boreal sparrow]

@narrow cypress you need to mix up use of mouse and keyboard steering with allo youll get the hang of it but thatll ease the sliding abit

[narrow cypress]

I was the cera , and i have killed more than 30 allos very easy , i want to play allo but is a dino that only is able to kill maias , other dino is very hard

[boreal sparrow]

allos were having no problem killing ceras in ht so idk

[narrow cypress]

His drift turns like a grandma very predictable and is very easy to confront it

[boreal sparrow]

just people learning the dino

[narrow cypress]

it is very hard to play with a dino that cannot kills dibbles for example because he lack of agility look the rex with 12 and later see the allo

[cyan arch]

the constant rain is driving me insane

especially with how loud it is its actually killing me

[slender wraith]

anyone know why ptera flying is as fast as a walking omni? how is that even possible or realistic

[wooden agate]

stop trying to glide everywhere and actively fly

go up, down, barrel roll, etc

use momentum

[slender wraith]

its a bit crazy how slow it is tho thats not even physically possible lol a chicken just out ran me and im in full sprint flight

[wooden agate]

i will take a bit crazy over mind numbingly boring flight

[slender wraith]

you find it boring the way it was before?

[wooden agate]

all you did was fly forward

you were basically a drone lol

[icy lion]

@hollow saffron Everything spawns as a juvie

[wooden agate]

there was no dynamic movement, nothing to do in the air, everything felt stiff

i will take actively having to fly and swoop down and engage with the game over just sitting above trees, not even having to touch my mouse or keyboard

[slender wraith]

they could of added all the dynamic movement they added and kept a realistic flight speed

no flying animal the size of a human is going 5 mph in flight lol

[wooden agate]

and then you have no real reason to use momentum because your base glide is already incredibly fast and more stam efficient

:|

[slender wraith]

what i find as well is i get plenty of momentum and it just starts breaking by itself it doesnt keep that glide speed

braking***

[wooden agate]

that's the animation for it

[slender wraith]

i think its just unrealistic for it to take 2 rest stops and 5 mintues of waiting time each to refill stam all to get up a hill before youd at least fly full speed waste the stam but before you got up the hill/mountain in one good sprint now its unbearably painful just to get some height by the time you get any real air your stam is gone and you have to stop to refill for 5 mins or more -_- as a casual player its kinda crazy i spend 70% of my very short window to play just regaining stam :3

im a flying dinosaur the size of a human lol i should not be walking speed while mid flight

[boreal sparrow]

@sonic jolt add coord in so they can fix the bushes in question, without coords its not very helpful

@proud needle how you gonna do it more than once

[proud needle]

Ingame visibility is absolute dogwater and you cant see a thing especially when youre a foot tall baby rex walking through 5 foot grass

[boreal sparrow]

Walking blindly has its consequences

[proud needle]

AND it was sunset so it was the darkest it would ever be

Well walking blindly is all I could do so either the devs fix the map of keep punishing players for playing their game

[boreal sparrow]

Learn that area so when you're near it you're more careful in the mean time

[boreal sparrow]

bushes here cant be passed through

also here

[junior nymph]

its not places, its actual certain bush types

[boreal sparrow]

Yes they need the locations to fix them all but 😒

[minor sentinel]

the most negative community ever

[twilit bough]

theres reasons for everything if its so negative then theres an obvious issue with it

[minor sentinel]

I play the new update, don't see anything too bad and I'm not just saying that.

[twilit bough]

then that is your experience

the point is to speak up about the negative impact with the new update to fix things

[limber hull]

i honestly mostly have had seen positives with this update, outside of certain problems like certain elders being busted

performance is better, lighting is better, imho balance is better, gameplay loop is better

[minor sentinel]

yeah but like they don't have to be ass about it

[twilit bough]

well i wont repeat what i said just now but people are upset because this update, while some had positive experiences, some still experience the negatives and if they can get a voice in for how a game should be, considering they have paid for it, i dont see why someone wouldnt be a little "passionate" or "upset"

all games will face criticism in some way toward updates and devs, its inevitable, yes people can be kinder but there will be unsolicited and rude criticism, and helpful criticism that helps the game become what it is meant for

im not saying go out of your way to be rude to devs, thats not the point, but some people do do that . not something that can be helped

[minor sentinel]

yeah, but with the isle it's more

[twilit bough]

i dont know what to tell you besides to look at other communities and games feedbacks. also not to put pressure on peoples plates but this is almost THE dinosaur game. yes there are others like BoB or PoT but so far this has gained the most traction.

[minor sentinel]

I have done that, like SCP sl and helldiver 2, but that didn't change my mind about the isle community being like this, sorry.

[twilit bough]

thats fine my point wasn't to change your mind but to make an argument that counters what you said originally. i am merely replying. i cant control you or what you think

[minor sentinel]

ngl that was 🔥

[icy lion]

@full heart Known issue, fixed with a future patch

[full heart]

Great’

[icy lion]

@old mist

[junior nymph]

@brittle orchid thats due to a weird bug where whenever a player joins a server they start at 12am

[brittle orchid]

Shouldn’t be like that. It can lead to an unfair situation in an fight

[junior nymph]

nah really? yea its a bug

[brittle orchid]

Depends how the vision is. Some of my friends play with lumen on and don’t see good at night. When they see bad and the enemy has day it is going to lead to an unfair fight cause of the differences of the vision

[boreal sparrow]

You don't pick up sarcasm well hey

[brittle orchid]

🤙🏻

[junior nymph]

lol

[calm crown]

i just wanna know which person was like 'hm lets make south plains a forest, we dont have enough of those around on this map'

Like why was this even changed can someone explain to me how hotspots are a bad thing and why the game devs seemingly want to kill them off???

[urban flax]

It was me

[calm crown]

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-the-boys-homelander-antony-starr-gif-6152221092070676692

[limber hull]

imma be real i like south better now, it still HAS the bigass plains area with the savannah

also this map has a shockinly bizarre low amount of jungle rivers

something i dont really understand

[calm crown]

so the savannah is like a savanah and the plains are no longer plains

also majority of the map is jungle forest type and mountains

we got northen jungle as well

idk i just feel like its a result of a certain lead dev saying he doesnt like people grouping/hotspots but thats where the most interesting stuff happens thats like majority of the gameplay for me and a lot of people is just migrating between player heavy areas otherwise its just dinosaur eat/drink simulator

[limber hull]

i personally far prefer less hotspots to more so i get where he's coming from

i like actually just... traversing around the map

rather than sitting in one spot all the time

[calm crown]

I just said majority of the ganeplay is just migrating between player heavy spots

not sitting in them for hours

I mean fair enough for you I guess. Im not sure if most of the playerbase find true satisfaction just walking around the map. The most fun ive had is battles in south plains

[limber hull]

yea see that's not what the game wants for itself though, a "fight fight kill brawl in one segment of the map" game isn't really the idea

i personally despise how activity gets condensed into one area

it means that basically if you ever get tired of JUST fighting, good luck having any gameplay beyond the hotspot

participate in the bloodbath or just delete any opportuity to have fun

south plains genuinely got so tiring and boring it just made me not wanna play because i knew the moment i wasn't spending 95% of my time in south plains, i wasn't going to have anything happen at all

[calm crown]

Im sooner going to get tired of aimlessly strolling around a map than fighting other players?? the combat in the isle is one of the most enjoyable things about it and its not like thats all a hotspot brings, nesting, herding, faster growing, sanctuaries.

[calm crown]

You gotta be exagerating bro theres no way.... there are multiple hotspots, not just south plains and getting rid of it is just going to even further condense players to the other new/old hotspots

Maybe you gotta hop off official and try unofficial

On those very populated servers you can get activity happening in highlands, SP, west rail, water access, its never boring

[limber hull]

if the solution to the problem is "don't play on the official version of the game", i don't think that's very compelling lol

[calm crown]

The isle is only functional for carnivores as an ecosystem where they are around herbivores. Unless you want to only be hunting AI (which sounds extremely boring to me) carnivores, especially large groups or nesting ones, need to go looking for herbivores. From what I can gather in your arguments (you can correct me if im wrong) its preferable they be scattered wondering the map, or in small groups wondering the map. Sounds super fun

[limber hull]

its preferable they be scattered wondering the map, or in small groups wondering the map

yea basically

that sounds way better

[calm crown]

💀 What

[wooden agate]

even distribution of players around the map should be the goal icl

[limber hull]

wdym what i dont see how that sounds bad

you actually find things to ambush, hunt or stalk as opposed to walking around on open field and sprinting towards something hoping either it dies or you die

[calm crown]

Tbh the more i discuss with you the more it sounds like a skill issue. Have you not been able to ambush and hunt in a hotspot??

[limber hull]

seems more like a skill issue to get ambushed in a hotspot lol

you should know where all the ambush spots are at that point

[calm crown]

with 100 player cap on official? thats the probelm the map is way too big for the player count to just be 100 i doubt youre hunting anything like that

official server numbers should definitely be increased for that to even be liable

[limber hull]

they just reduced the size of the map, but i do like the idea of larger servers

[calm crown]

The thing is, the way the map is designed invites risk and reward. players take the risk and can either be rewarded or not

[limber hull]

yea, so have people be rewarded for going more than one place lol

on that note

fix whatever the hell is going on with MZs atm lol

[calm crown]

Tbh i totally ignore them at this point and just go for patrols

not with the new elder system though

Which, on that note I also have many problems with

[calm crown]

Also on this discussion I would like to note that some mechanics in the game and also dinosaur play styles invite lingering in one place. E.g. Herrera, deino and the mechanic of nesting

[limber hull]

you're right, but i'd also like for those playables to at least spread out

[calm crown]

Im not saying herrera players and deino players cant traverse the map but they are more likely to have sucessful hunts waiting in one spot for players where they know they are going to be

[calm crown]

Idk if you do excslusively play official or not and I know you said me telling you to not play on official was an invalid point but I seriously think you might have a better time on unofficial. I've been playing this game for like 9 years at this point and I only played unofficial recently. Its seriously a game changer, mixpacks get punished, hackers get nuked in real time and the player count makes it actually feel like an ecosystem. Thats been my experience

[lucid sinew]

Son of a gun...they did it....the Pterandon feels so good to play right now....oh wait...I shouldn't say that...they might change it back...can't believe it...the game is fun again..won't last long.

[calm crown]

Although at the moment the server i play on has like 100 allos and 100 rexes on the server I wish I was joking so that might not be the best idea

[wooden agate]

thank GOD someone else says it

ive felt like ive been going CRAZY but WHY IS MZ ONLY IN DELTA

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860702568145354795/1367770137075122288/attachment.gif

[limber hull]

i do exclusively play on official yes

because i like good ping

[indigo gulch]

#general-feedback message didnt they massively buff maia this patch….why would you buff it even more

[urban flax]

@vital badge
What's the logic in that
"Players are forced to entomb, so give them a bigger reward for entomb it to incentivise it more" ???

[limber hull]

just you wait, because they're not even done with ptera's rework, it's getting tons more ground mobility and combat options, as well as increased stats from what i've heard

but yea, ptera is awesome atm, and it's only gonna get better

[lucid sinew]

thank the heavens!

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message You can nest when you are sup adult now, and it also makes sense that animals lose their ability to reproduce when they reach the end of their lifecycle

#general-feedback message
You can only pin to stuff that have collision, and then tail doesnt have collision

[rigid willow]

is the queue system still broken

[lusty token]

Thanks admins for deletin my message what i evidence of toxic players

[icy lion]

You're not allowed to give out locations, and read rule 2

[junior nymph]

@dusk shadow thats the plan, new skin system meaning you can just enable all colours, elders are toggleable and diets should be imo.

[dusk shadow]

oh wow, didint know that but nice to know that!

[static dune]

Is it just me who cant queue into a server?

[charred goblet]

I, for one, would like to keep allowing 50% grown adults mating with 100% prime elders, if only because I always get a laugh out of 'Tiny Rabbit Madly In Love With Girlfriend Four Times His Size' memes

Life is too hard for baby troo. If you don't have an adult to hunt for you, or a fresh corpse nearby (which is probably not going to be diet food), you've gotta risk your neck pouncing a deer over and over and over and over and over again, and if the buggy bastard swivels on you mid-pounce, there goes your skull.

[icy lion]

@surreal otter You have to be resting to heal leg fractures, use #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 to submit bugs, and spawning at 25% is intended

[surreal otter]

ok

[icy lion]

@leaden prism It's showing your hunger and thirst are now capped below 100% but yea it could do with being a hashed symbol like before

[leaden prism]

ah, yeah cuz 3 different "colors" I was wondering what was being implied if intentional lol. Using the filled at the top and empty in between, def miss the old cover

[modern pollen]

@vivid mason it isn’t a flat boost it scales with difference

[vivid mason]

I’ve done tests and it doesn’t seem to be that way 💔

[modern pollen]

On the latest build?

[vivid mason]

No, but I don’t think it changed/wasn’t said, and if it did what are the thresholds?

[modern pollen]

I don’t know the thresholds but it’s been changed for at least a month or 2 now apparently

[pliant elm]

Really have people who think Omni should have all that damage and bleeding in Pounce, It's kind of funny
#general-feedback message

[fiery hill]

I dont think it is, I always think even if you had a small weight difference like carno v cera for example, carno would always technically have more hp in that 1v1 cuz of congenitals boost, meaning 1300*1.115=1495 vs 1450 cera has by default

But if you tested it and have results I would love to be proved otherwise

Cuz it shifts balance in crazy ways in matchups that are close in weight

[modern pollen]

I’ve been told by QA members that it’s meant to scale with the difference and he’s been that way for at least a couple of months now, I’m not able to test rn unfortunately

[fiery hill]

Yeah I cant test either i dont have my pc for a couple more weeks, but if you have the time you could try it ona free admin or ask a friend maybe? Cuz im also curious how it works

Like it says species, but at the time i tested it and I think it was just against larger targets

Like for example a 1300 kg cera was tankier than a 1400 kg cera in a 1v1

But im not sure if its the case still

[wind mesa]

@toxic flicker #general-feedback message that is a game feature

[arctic bloom]

i think that omni is close to where it should be a glass cannon bleeder but i do think the max bleed and damage for pounce should be nerfed a lil bit would be perfect

allo on the other hand should not be able to pounce and or not let it pounce for more than a couple of seconds

[pliant elm]

Brother

A single Omni can take 85% of an adult Stego's health in a single Pounce, using all of its Stam

This is more damage than the Trike thrash

Omni used to deal 1k damage using a pounce with full stamina

This is a 500% damage buff

[arctic bloom]

if you can let an omni take that much health from you as a stego you are prolly bad tbh

[pliant elm]

I don't know if you understood. This is the damage a single Omni can cause; if there are 3 or more Omnis, Stego health will be melted in seconds

[arctic bloom]

well yeah its supposed to be a dinosaur that can be used in group play to take down bigger dinos, you think that before it was fair?

literally all i takes is one tail swing and omni is dead

[pliant elm]

And stego is just one example. A single Omni can now kill an Allo, Sub Rex, Carno, Cerato, Dibble, or Maia using only 1 pounce and all of its Stam.

A Omni weighing 400kg

[arctic bloom]

again if you die from one pounce than it really is a you problem tbh

[pliant elm]

Yes, it was fair before. The only problem was the pounce being buggy

[arctic bloom]

it was fair you could barely kill anything bigger as an omni unless you were good or played as a huge group

i feel like yes the damage rn is a bit too high but before it was atrocious

[pliant elm]

So you agree that the 400kg Omni should have the highest damage? My god xd

[cyan flame]

Well, shouldnt omni require a full pack to take on apexes and similar sized critters?

[arctic bloom]

well if you let an omni stay on you for their entire stam bar seems like it should get rearded dont you think?

[pliant elm]

You could before, but in a group, Now Omni can do this solo

[pliant elm]

My God

[arctic bloom]

accept stego isnt an apex its sub

its at glass cannon rn imo its good

[pliant elm]

This must be bait; it's impossible for anyone to actually think like that

[arctic bloom]

yup

[arctic bloom]

people think different than me must be bait

[pliant elm]

It's not about having a different thought, but about having a completely absurd thought

[arctic bloom]

sure buddy atleast i was being respectful

[cyan flame]

And similar sized critters, also current stego is pretty much an apex, and even so, it should require like 6 omnis then, and 8 for trike/rex, if you want to make that distinction. Point still stands, it should take a full, or near full, pack to go after such targets.

[slow spear]

anyone know why my official network status wwould be offline?

[arctic bloom]

so 8 omnis have to play perfectly to take down one trike? thats absurd, they get one shot by almost the whole roster, 3 omnis should be able to play against apexes and have it be equal fight

[pliant elm]

One Omni now only needs 40% Stam to kill a Carno Prime, in just 5-15 seconds

[cyan flame]

No, thats reasonable, you have a pack limit, shouldnt it be used? Also "play perfectly", no, play normally. 3 omnis should by no means be able to even attempt an apex. That's absurd if anything, 3 omnis should be a match for a teno, maybe a diablo or maia if they're really good.

[pliant elm]

Do you really think that's fair? Nah bro

[cyan flame]

If you sincerely think 3 omnis should take on apexes, well, then we clearly see omni very differently

[arctic bloom]

yup galss cannon ive been saying this

all they need to do is lower their damage a lil and they would be perfect dino

[pliant elm]

Omni was perfect, only the pounce was bugged

[foggy field]

Rex fracture damage is absurd and people are not talking enought about it

[noble fern]

My lord, it’s the entire point of the playable

[pale quiver]

help it won't let me play

[foggy field]

Iam not saying it should not have it, iam saying its overtuned

[noble fern]

Fair, but as an apex it is going to have some sort of extreme ability

[foggy field]

Its breaking stegos and trikes legs and bodys in 2 hits

[long void]

why am I getting downvoted I'm right lmao

[noble fern]

Do you want it to take 4 hits?

[foggy field]

Would make more sense.

Crush is not hard to hit

Plus it stuns so rex can get a bite in and deal even more fracture damage

[noble fern]

Pachy breaks Omni in a hit or 2 but that’s okay because pachy is small right? It’s the same, people need to be wary or Rex and its fracture damage

[foggy field]

Packy ram is mach harder to hit r
Tought

[noble fern]

Not really

[foggy field]

Also the main issue is that rex is breaking trike leg and body by hitting its head

Like, it makes no sense

[noble fern]

Ah okay so they should just make it do head fractures more often! Then everyone is cooked

[foggy field]

It should do fracture damage where it hits, makes no sense to break a leg by hitting the animals head

Pachy is already like this, it break a omni where it hits.

If you want to break a omnis leg you gotta hit its leg.

[noble fern]

I get that, I agree, but this does not solve Rex fracture being OP because the game is literally saving you from head fractures

[foggy field]

Trike head has a damage negative multiplier

Só its better to take head hits

But rn crush just is ignoring this and going straight to the body and leg

EVEN WHEN TRIKE USES BLOCK

[normal shuttle]

It would be infinitely more fair just Rex actually had to try to win a fight instead of freely getting the best debuff in the entire game by trading two hits

And it being an apex wouldn’t justify the existence of broken abilities

[noble fern]

Ok well that sucks and I agree there, it would be manageable if it was blockable, so my bad

[foggy field]

Yup, even when trike is using a skill to actually protect itself... rex just ignores it

It has to change, stego is fairing better them trike agaist rex

[noble fern]

Rex should get stunned by trike alt attack to give it more time to thrash

[long void]

Rex should have lips

Most important change necessary 😎

[warped parcel]

#general-feedback message
Line art for concepts of the Tenonto and Herrera carrying young. Lmk if yall have ideas. Working on more as we speak.

[charred goblet]

Those are adorable

[warped parcel]

Thank you much !

[charred goblet]

I would like to do more things with my babies than puke down their mouths until time comes for them to sprint off to sanctuary

[limber hull]

people have asked for it before, its been shut down lol

[long void]

smh

[mental heath]

this is most likely something to do with the internet being down and not steam or the game itself

[peak forge]

Ahh add titaniboa would be fun.

[long void]

it doesn't even look cooler it looks goofy

[limber hull]

i like it

[foggy field]

It does not have lips to keep the more "jurrasic park" feel

[vapid lynx]

Shows I’m offline too only on the isle though

[boreal sparrow]

There's plenty of map still brodie

[coarse juniper]

i dont think teno could carry babies by the tail

itd cause blood to rush to their head and over time could kill them

i say you could have teno baby like hide under the mother teno

and without needing inputs automatically walks under the mother with her

[warped parcel]

This is a good idea. I didn’t think about the blood rush but that would make sense. Either it couldn’t carry them for long or the tuck under. I’d definitely say Stego would have their young tuck under too.

[wooden agate]

@summer olive #general-feedback message this is intentional, alongside deino not seeing sanc

i do think its a little odd considering prime relies on sanc but they DID say they added more options to fufill your prime requirement, so its possible most people dont even need the sanc anymore

id prefer if juvie pteranodons were directed towards thermals and such to learn how to more efficiently use stamina

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

I love the proud proclomation of "this would be balanced" without any follow up to that statement. Yea, it undermines the gameloop and would let certain people just never have to engage with the cycle of life and death but i guess it'll be balanced because it was said it would be

[frosty hull]

I prefaced the statement, what I said before it was my explaination. Like I said in my opinion is its a fair exchange since elders get to entomb for more mutations and get to be more powerful if they get prime, with normal dinosaurs sacrificing that for not getting weaker with age while knowing they could encounter others that are much stronger than they are. Thats why i think it would be balanced. Many people critique the elder system for punishing players for surviving by requiring they go through the elder phase and feeling rushed to have fun while full grown before they have to start over again. This is a solution to that problem.

You could have just asked me to elaborate.

[opaque dune]

Day 2 of trying to play isle longer than 30 minutes but failing and getting a bad headache due to new UI and grubby foliage (despite being on epic/high)
😭
I used to be able to play isle happily for hours on my days off now I can't even last half an hour I hate this

[coarse juniper]

Welcome to the isle kiddo

Land of “things get worse every update”

[gaunt pasture]

I’ll give yall credit for fixing water ai seen plenty of schooling fish, but now Deinos can’t see in day or night the water is so murky maybe see three feet in front of you max

[barren zephyr]

Im not a fan of the new UI ngl. Its like a simplistic matrix with 90s pc code aesthetic. Or just simpler version of the old one.
The red version feels like darth vader is about to strike me lol.
Every color a bit straining to the eyes as well.
I heavily prefer the old overgrowth mixed in with the 90s-esque screen thing, fits better with what the isle is with dinosaur and jp inspired unless they're going a different direction.
Is there a reason why they changed it? Its their design choice I guess but im genuinely curious.

[stiff temple]

Is AI fish spawn got fixed ? it wasnt spawning like couple of months ago, been awhile

[normal pumice]

@limber hull Why don't you agree with me?

[limber hull]

What are you even suggesting

[compact sequoia]

is @serene fulcrum feedback true ?

[wooden agate]

yes, its a bug

[serene fulcrum]

Ask other players you find. Was in a Petra group, all different times.
I noticed because the others were able to spear fish and me not because was night for me

[compact sequoia]

That's so unfair, i wondered yesterday how an allo dillo was able to see me in the bush so clearly when it was night and foggy......

i thought they were using a location hack ....lost my 4 ton trex

[paper coral]

I'm getting the error message: "The game couldn't properly connect to the Steam online subsystem. Please make sure Steam is running and try restarting your computer." Can you help me?

[urban flax]

Did you do what the error message says ?

[junior nymph]

did you, you know Restart your computer

or did you just double it and give it to the next person?

[icy lion]

@mighty zealot Have they tried deleting the TheIsle folder in Appdata/Local?

[mighty zealot]

Nope i will ask them to try that how would you do that also?

[icy lion]

1. If running The Isle, exit the game.
2. Press the Windows key
3. Type %localappdata% then press Enter.
4. Find "TheIsle" folder. Delete it. Note: This will reset any of your custom settings to their defaults and delete saved skin presets

[mighty zealot]

So just delete the entire folder of the isle will it affect game installation or will you have to reinstall?

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

while i agree Pteranodon should be included within the playables excluded from the 100% infertility, i do think 100% infertility for a majority of players is fine. with you being able to nest at 50%+ now,alongside the elder stage being much longer now... if you dont nest before you reach the end of the line, thats kind of on you. there is more than enough time for playables to nest.

of course, i can see some issue arising for animals like dryosaurus/omniraptor/herrerasaurus who have inherently short growth times even with the elder system, but we know that there will be ways to pause and even potentially de-age your animal in the future (alongside small playables like that getting QOL for eldering to begin with)

[icy lion]

It's configuation files, no reinstallation needed. Deleting it forces the game to regenerate new ones the next time it opens. It's recommended to delete it after every major patch, especially since this most recent patch included a game-engine update

[mighty zealot]

Okay thank you hopefully this works 🤞

[primal copper]

merry christmas everyone, i entommbed my allo but now my muations say 0% and my asset isnt old enough. Is that supposed to be like that?

[junior nymph]

what server are you on?

[primal copper]

dino den EU server

[wooden agate]

its a visual bug afaik

[charred tide]

@spark pawn pteranodon does go infertile

[spark pawn]

I was told it was not. mb then

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message @fervent condor likely related to the day bug, where each player has a different time of day

#general-feedback message @glad sierra i think EOS is still having issues

https://status.epicgames.com/

[fervent condor]

any proposed work-arounds for the time being?

[fervent condor]

Wait, so game menu has a Bug Report button, button takes me to this server, my post gets deleted? Real nice.

[icy lion]

Bugs go in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[icy lion]

@silent palm Press the Change UI Color button

[silent palm]

thank you

[mental mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

#general-feedback message

[proper bluff]

@hardy sonnet the fact that ppl disagree with this is crazy. i have almost 1k hours in the game and unless the requirements for prime wouldnt have been sent by someone id never know what to do to get a prime. its also like the main focus on the game now so in my opinion it should be explained what to do to get one on each of the dinos.

[empty gate]

somebody what happend?

[unkempt nacelle]

its like everyone wants the knowledge for their own one-up, the only reason to ever not want your players to not know how to play the game

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-christmas-christmas-merry-christmas-fun-trump-dance-trump-dancing-gif-6896438051687768769

[peak jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-justice-sassy-trump-reindeer-election-sassy-christmas-donald-trump-gif-19541428

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-michael-scott-the-office-funny-gif-14809826

[obsidian jetty]

it's not about that, at least not for me. I don't even care much if I reach prime and I sure wouldn't want to be guaranteed to get it every time just by going down the same list. I think for a lot of dinos it's way too easy as it is already, there's absolutely no reason to make it even easier. I just fundamentally disagree with prime elder being the new normal in general. I'd want it to be an "A+ for effort" type of thing. Seeing a prime elder, especially for the bigger things like Trikes and Rexes would be way cooler if it were actually rare. But that may just be me.

[peak jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-dick-dick-gun-gif-23542066

[vocal totem]

https://tenor.com/view/peek-boy-gif-18524510

[pale river]

@dire bear they are planing on adding a red wood biome, a mangrove and maybe some sort of snow place at some time. Also adding new types of trees (I don’t know much but it has smth to do with humans prob gonna be release later if so)

[urban flax]

Where did you see that they were adding a mangrove and snow biome ?

Snow biome is on the contrary pretty much confirmed to never happen (On Gateway at least)

[pale river]

https://youtu.be/qq7tHXDwgTY this shows a bit of the mangrove but I’ve heard it from multiple places. Also I heard that they wanted at some point to do snow but I could be wrong

It shows at the end of the video

[urban flax]

I see
That's cool
But tbh a snow biome has no reason to ever happen

[pale river]

Ya unless they add smth like yutyarannus but still in some places it would be cool to see some variety

[urban flax]

They won't add yutyrannus

[pale river]

Ik 😭

[foggy field]

Maybe them mod one in one day

[pale river]

O true, I can’t wait for modding

[foggy field]

Same, i hope they add iguanodon

[pale river]

Ooh that would be cool maybe also a hole under water part if it isn’t added to the actual game too

[dire bear]

If thats their intention then why are they removing everything interesting from evrima and instead replacing it with jungle. Every biome, south plains, highlands, west, has been replaced with the same jungle as everything. Its so lame honestly

And the swamp part of the map is so horrible it should be removed genuinely

Path of titans did swamp much better and so did legacy isle

[pale river]

I think they plan on updating swamp it is bad I just kill my self if I spawn there

[dire bear]

I really hope so

[pale river]

I have see a lot more variety in the plants/trees in the jungle and I feel they haven’t got rid of the stuff too much, south plains mostly just moved down.

Like with these trees in the jungle

[dire bear]

I dont know it all just kind of blends together for me

[pale river]

Ya I see that but red woods will be peak

[dire bear]

Path of titans has that and it looks amazing

Map design in that game is phenomenal

Hopefully the isle can get a dedicated map designer at one point

[urban flax]

They have one

[pale river]

Haven’t played it so I can talk about it

[dire bear]

I think they used one for creation of gateway but thats it

I heard its dondi making changes since then tho not sure if thats true or not

[urban flax]

He's still in the team

[dire bear]

Never heard of him since then

[devout ivy]

Why is the ptera flying at 3km per hour?

[primal copper]

okay nice, i thought my hours were worthless 😄

[pliant elm]

Ptera is a terrestrial bird now... at least that's what they're trying to make it be

[devout ivy]

Yeah it seems to be able to run 2se as fast as flying XD

[full pewter]

Does anyone know if this grass, or overall visual style will be making it to the game eventually? Just gathering info

[unkempt nacelle]

haha coming back to only disagrees i see no one likes the dilos lmao

Don't know why that last part was a reply Elly, had nothing to do with that but to reply yeah I agree maybe a factor of rarity or chance to elder out would be better rather that a list to do and a server of primes, but whether they withhold that info or come out with a step by step soon every one will be doing it.

[obsidian jetty]

yeah, unfortunately nowadays people oftentimes just metagame the fun out of things

[steady orchid]

thats why i nveer fight trikes as rex, the fatal error is inminent 90% of times

[dire bear]

is there no queue or smth whats going on

wait wrong chat

[lucid sinew]

This game should be called Storm Simulator

[limber hull]

personally i think The Isle is a good title for it

[full summit]

still a starvation simulator for carnivores?

[full heart]

Not really, theirs AI.

[junior nymph]

@serene plaza thats not how it works

[cyan arch]

removing the skin colors for hypsi and making it only brown and orange is actually my 13th reason.

[serene plaza]

wym

[junior nymph]

the server would be terrible

horrible performance, horrible ai spawns, needing corpse cleanups etc etc

just saying "add 200 players" isnt as easy as it sounds

[serene plaza]

just increase the player count

[junior nymph]

thats not... thats not how it works

you clearly have 0 clue on how servers even work

[serene plaza]

just increase the player count

[junior nymph]

ok this is bait

i tried and give an actual explanation

[serene plaza]

just made it like 150 players then

[idle belfry]

Next update/patxg needs to be core improvements. The ping/rubberbanding is killing almost all the unofficial servers rn

[wheat nova]

no ways the shiny dino bug is back

[junior nymph]

@wheat nova btw i think thats because you didnt delte your config

because I dont have that issue

[blissful atlas]

#general-feedback message

the black dots are present in both of your photos.

[wheat nova]

i deleted it

[wheat nova]

ur right ive never noticed

its been like this since the engine upgrade i think

[blissful atlas]

yeah that is so weird! i've never seen that before. kouga or someone over im #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 might be able to help out

[junior nymph]

@primal comet its a bug

[solar aspen]

Anyone else having problems closing the game from steam after the update? I need to force quit steam to stop the game. Even going into task manager to force quit The Isle doesn't work.

I tried to completly reinstall the game, but didn't fix it

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message mind you, we havent even gotten our first iteration of the new theme system. 🤦‍♂️

[limber hull]

that wont stop me from hating it in advance

[limber hull]

@vivid mason basically impossible to do but extremely cool lol

[vivid mason]

heh it'd be so awesome

new players going insane

[strange hedge]

Anyone else having issues with ptera not being able to do spearing during the day? Very often my ptera cancels the animation right away when clicking RMB and I'm starving. Common bug?

[wooden agate]

theres a bug relating to the time of day. its likely night time on the server, and showing as day for you.

theres no current way to fix it, everyones time is different. whenever you log onto a server, the time will automatically be midnight for you

[strange hedge]

Yeah, I noticed it's always 0:00 when joining a server. I waited until it's 4:30 to do spearing but then the animation was still canceled. Before 4:30 there was no animation at all. I then logged off and joined again and it was 0:00 again. Then I closed the game.

Didn't play for several weeks because I waited for the update to drop (not wanting to play HT anymore). Now I think I continue my abstinence of this buggy game until it's fixed. Guess this game will stay a buggy mess.

[steady orchid]

@obtuse wing It wont happen, not everyone wants to be forced to play an unstable branch with constant rubberbanding and severall new bugs + wipes

not to mention every update the unofficial server owners will have to manually update their server or it wont be showing

[obtuse wing]

Nothing is perfect, but this excessive hordtest doesn't seem inferior to me.

[grim verge]

Why do I have to keep changing the ui colour and that’s how it’s spelt not color.

[junior nymph]

do you not remember what happened in the hordetest?

constant crashes, rubber banding, bad performance etc etc. Evrima is the stable branch, makjing a HT not exist would go completely against that meaning no one gets to play on a stable branch if they want to they are forced to then play buggy, poorly optimized, rubberbandy, crashing servers because someone couldnt wait for their silly little kentrosaurus to come to main

[obtuse wing]

This is considering that the last hordtest was for the implementation of a completely new, immense mechanic; dinosaurs with new mechanics certainly tend to be more stable, and as I said, the servers can simply disable them if they are interfering, which doesn't prevent the game from resolving this as quickly as possible

[junior nymph]

its still an issue

because no matter what you do, the game will be unstable

[obtuse wing]

Let's be honest, Allo isn't ready, nor is Cerato, and even Rex isn't in ideal condition; Kentro would be the least of the problems.
The Hordtests are lasting much longer than necessary.

[ashen inlet]

Any reason my comment got deleted in general feedback ?

[obtuse wing]

What was it about? Did you use emojis?

[ashen inlet]

no emojis

im not allowed to play the game currently because i dont have easyanticheat, the game doesnt install it for you, so i have to download a different game because epic is terrible and doesnt let you download easyanticheat standalone

[obtuse wing]

To be completely honest, I prefer playing on community servers that crash but still provide much faster and more accurate feedback than four months of hordtesting that ultimately resulted in adding dinosaurs with numerous problems

[ashen inlet]

my suggestion was to maybe have the isle download easyanticheat for me if you require it to play the game ?

makes sense to me

[obtuse wing]

Another 4-month hordtest for Kentro, Austro, and Bary is almost half a year wasted, and with the roster remaining stagnant, the game needs to speed up the addition of relevant dinosaurs.

[obtuse wing]

So that wasn't the appropriate place for that kind of comment; you can seek help in other chats.

[ashen inlet]

i dont need help

the game does

i know the issue, it was a suggestion/feedback

[final leaf]

Why did my message get deleted for no reason?

[normal shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/grimace-clint-eastwood-gran-torino-yuck-eww-gif-4412827

I mean

I do think the roster may have some issues although it’s mostly balance and a few needing reworks

But dunno if “relevant dinosaurs” can be considered something objective

Or whether is it really a waste to finally get two semi aquatics after so long, and a total of three playables that aren’t gigantic behemoths after so many updates

Last releases were Rex, Allo, Trike, Maia and Dibble

It was about time to get something small

And considering all of them are extremely unique, I don’t see it as a waste at all

Well, I guess kentro depends on how it’s executed, but bary and austro are 100% unique and interesting playables

[obtuse wing]

Man, let’s be real. Do you honestly think it’s reasonable that by April 2026 we’ll have only three dinosaurs coming out of yet another long Hordtest? A testing phase that would be far more agile if they were pushed directly to the Evrima build.
Two or three weeks of reported instability is far better than four months spent on three low-to-mid tier dinosaurs.
By 2026, we urgently need heavyweight dinosaurs like Camarasaurus, Parasaurolophus, and others.
There’s just no way to spend four months on Austro, Kentro, and Bary. It simply doesn’t make sense.

[normal shuttle]

Isn’t Cama like up next immediately after that ht?

Or was it para and ovi?

Also, why are those heavyweights necessary?

[wooden agate]

its an american company, theyre going to spell color the american way

as for UI color, part of UI still being WIP in places most likely

[urban flax]

If kentro and austro are as simply as you think their hordetest won't last 4 months

[normal shuttle]

And tbf, developing games takes time, especially when they put so much effort into details not just about playables and animation work

[urban flax]

It's funny how brits and americans constantly forget each other exist

[normal shuttle]

I wish I could make anything anywhere close to how they make things

This convo for some reason kinda reminded me of this r/theisle comment of someone saying that he was disappointed that bary was gonna be yet another pin dinosaur just because it has the allo rig in the game files and isn’t officially available

💔 💔 not much to do with the discussion but it’s pretty funny

[obtuse wing]

And I disagree. We don’t have too few small dinosaurs. We already have plenty of them.
Galli, Dryo, Hypsi, Ptero, Troodon, Beipi, Herrera and soon Austro
What we urgently need is a sauropod, animals for Rex and Allo to actually challenge, and Triceratops as well
We’re already well covered on medium-sized dinosaurs for a good while. Ceratosaurus, Carnotaurus, and Bary
What we need as soon as possible are heavy mid-tiers like Albertosaurus, Suchomimus, Deinocheirus, and Parasaurolophus. The small-fauna side of the roster is well served for now

[normal shuttle]

Not really well served considering that they famously suffer from some of the most grievous balance and popularity issues in the game and just trying to force more apexes into the game without addressing them and their variety first means that you are further skewering the roster towards larger sizes.

Either way, while I agree other large playables should be added, it is NOT a waste to get more semi aquatics and another herbivore that isn’t a slow moving behemoth

And well, as I did say, cama (as well as para and spino) are up next in terms of heavy sizes, with only ovi and quetz (the latter being an easy fan favorite for those who know about the Mesozoic, and providing yet another flyer) interjecting them after the bary/kentro/austro HT

After the next update I’m pretty sure there won’t be an issue with any shortage of giant dinosaurs

[obtuse wing]

If by March we don’t already have these three on community servers, I will personally walk away from this game. Because if by April these three dinos still aren’t in, then at best we’ll get two more rushed and half-finished releases by the end of 2026, just like what happened with Allo, and the same cycle will repeat in 2027.
It is no longer possible or forgivable to spend four months in Hordtests just to add three new dinosaurs that are already reusing existing mechanics.
Take Albertosaurus, for example. It’s literally a sub-Rex. Mostly sounds and animations. It could be fast-tracked, and the same applies to a wide range of other dinosaurs.

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message also, I just saw this thing

The hordetest isn’t just about whether or not the playables work as they should, but also is there to test so many different new mechanics and different new areas and interactions without killing the whole main branch with some game breaking interaction

[obtuse wing]

Spending four months in public testing for these three is not negotiable

[normal shuttle]

Why not? Why is there an arbitrary metric to the amount of time a high effort update should remain in testing?

Also, nope

They don’t really reuse existing mechanics in this case afaik

Other than like maybe austro to an extent

[normal shuttle]

Just look at what happened with the canni Rex megapacks camping dibble spawns

But similarly broken and unfun interactions could happens with smalls too

[obtuse wing]

Understand what I’m saying. Making a dinosaur is time-consuming, that’s true, but spending four months refining it in public testing is not reasonable

[wooden agate]

that would be true if HT was only for refining the dinosaur lol

[normal shuttle]

Truthnuke

People are thinking that HT or this game’s updates are just about dinosaurs

[junior nymph]

@frank phoenix you see how omni is moving rn?

its able to bleed out a trike or rex lmao

people be talking about allo while omni is a menace to society

lucky that its a bug 🙂

[acoustic vine]

whoever designed the ui needs to be fired, also when clicking on the species when creating a dinosaur do we really need the typing sound?

[cyan arch]

I noticed that the typing sound continues to play ON TOP of the new string of typing sounds when you click another dino and its really annoying.

[tawny stag]

Why was the coloration of most creatures removed? I'm not sure who was in charge of that decision, but it would be nice if the devs would listen more to the players.
But anyways, good thing i have Path of Titans, so i won't have to bother with the poor decision making regarding this game.

[little creek]

i have to use my voice, i dont talk much in here at all but this recent update made me put my foot down and i must give my two cents on this. the ptera flight is honestly really bad. i know they worked hard on tweaking it but it seems like its four steps backward, they need to revert the flight changes to the previous version or otherwise ptera is just a very bad playable. all in all devs please revert the bad new flight change, i will probably uninstall this game until its fixed.

[wintry cipher]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1454184780265554067

This would just be another free buff to ceratos as they are able to make you vomit and thus lose weight and damage. Diet buffs get up to 25% in strength for a total of 75% across three areas, and then 30% total across another three at 10% max, so if you are not taking those buffs, you are willingly weakening yourself significantly. Encouragement to collect diets is there.

[fringe agate]

@frigid bolt you can cancel your logout, just hit the same button you used to sleep smh

[frigid bolt]

that didnt work for me but i will try again

[fringe agate]

I just tried it and it worked for me, im on PC maybe thats it?

[uneven laurel]

remove frail
remove frail
remove frail

[boreal sparrow]

@devout notch bro omni might get pinned by and allo but it's a SUPER bleeder now

[devout notch]

You've never been pinned as a Prime Cera by an Allo before, I reckon, or Carno, Teno... should I name more?

[boreal sparrow]

I've had plenty of success on troodon and omni, hell I fought 7 allos as a solo sub adult omni lastnight, got pounces onto 4 of them and a few alt bites before I got caught, it's also not all about winning every Interaction

I've been pinned plenty of times I played horde test for like 70 hours xD

[devout notch]

,,fought 7 allos as a solo sub adult omni" In what world? Why is troodn relevant to the discussion?

[boreal sparrow]

Go look in #evrima-au i got a gg back from one of the allos that confirmed it was 7, sounds like a skill issue

You're saying anything under 2t is unplayable, when id probably roll your prime cera solo with a troo

[devout notch]

You wanna brag that bad?

[boreal sparrow]

60kg btw

[pliant elm]

@devout notch So, instead of damage over time, just make Allo deal all that damage in a single attack? What a great idea... Xd

[boreal sparrow]

Bros megamind fr

Ngl seeing all the evrima players that missed the original HT allo kit crying about the weakened kit

Is crackup

[devout notch]

Depends on what u like, personally I'd prefer it an ambush attack. What we have now is a another pin Dinosaur ontop of Rex & Omni that honestly I feel like we didn't need

[pliant elm]

Sure. But your suggestion would only make Allo more unbalanced

[devout notch]

I wonder how Barry is gonna work, I hope it's not another pin dino

[boreal sparrow]

Omni is a considerably better bleeder then allo

[pliant elm]

Having pounce isn't a problem, you just need to add more limitations to the pounce and, most importantly, make the charged pounce usefull

[devout notch]

One could make it deal 1.3-1.5x the normal amount of damage of an attack. Or instead of a Heavy Bleed, damage to the HP and just a normal bleed

The ability I'm thinking of is more of a Starter, than something you'd use in fights

[pliant elm]

make it so that Allo can only "jump" forward if it charges the Pounce, if it just clicks the Pounce button, it will only perform a stationary pounce

[devout notch]

I'd get behind that idea honestly. Depends on how fast the turn rate is going to be as well, u wanna make it like a landmine or a Turret

If it slows him down to charge the pounce for 1.5-2 seconds, it would be a neat idea, rather than what we have now

[quaint snow]

I just want to ask, mainly Dondi, but.. What is the point of the elder system.. Like, what is the end game?
Is the End game get all Mutations? Well if you get them.. Then what?
You get old and frail, maybe as a prime, but you will still die because you are weaker than anything else out there..
So.. What is the point?

[winter void]

having a full circle of life to end with and to begin a new one i guess... tbh i really like the system. I only dislike that hitting frail locks 4th mutation since i think you should still be able to unlock it under certain conditions.. Fail already gets punished enough imo 😄

[quaint snow]

I don't like it, it gets boring tbh.. The Elder system is forced on us and there is no choice about it.
If that is all there is to it.. It is honestly not that great or fun.

[winter void]

@pliant elm since i know ya for a while in here, i really value your opinion over some others. So may you give me a better look into you thoughts about cerato not able to puke until adult mate? 😄
really miss that ability tbh since we even been able to vomit at 35% for some updates..
also its not that much of a game changer and ripping parts off is always faster and more efficient than to vomit on a corpse.. its more of a gimmick than a really useful thing atm sadly ;D

[winter void]

well there might be unofficial servers that will disable it if you are looking for that. Of cause its forced on us like every other change in the game every update heh 😄
Well i think with that elder system there is at least some kind of goal to archive. get more mutations and improve them by entombing. Also prime/frail life takes quite a while for some creatures its kind of the grow time again so it last also pretty long.. and in the end what really changes with it ? a lot of peeps dont even make it until late prime/frail.. just my honest opinion mate. But i can understand why people dislike it.

[pliant elm]

Because it really doesn't make a difference to Cerato whether or not it has this ability before the Sub-Stage; it can survive very well without it

And, well, Cerato doesn't need buffs in literally anything else

[winter void]

well to be fair the manual vomit doesnt really change much, i just think its a shame you cant get it until adult now since its a fun mechanic to have
ye its not i a bad spot to say it like that.. ngl i really enjoyed 2.1T cerato model 😄
now cerato is duo only for me since solo is kinda "allo happy meal" atm.. dunno why they put the weight from 1.8 to 1.95 like thats spot on half allo to get pinned ... feels like they really like to rub that all over my nose xD
only thing that changes might be balance towards standing knockover headbutt carno .. dang i dont like that "small game at my size" hunter 😄

[quaint snow]

It is more that, if you don't want to entomb and would like to fight something when you grow old enough, or you have fought things and survived and just want to continue, you are kinda shoohorned into having to entomb as you will get so weak that the dino will become practically unplayable.. Like Omni or other perhaps smaller dinos that grow sooo much faster than rexes/trike/stegos and what not..

The Only Dinos that really benefit from this Update, is honestly the Deino and Herra (Maybe another i don't remember), as their grabble and assassins creed attacks are not dependent on their bite-force!

[winter void]

well i get the point of Apexes struggle with less power. But the thing is there is no real reason to run around and just fight for the sake of killing something.. besides for food as a Carnivore.. I totally understand peeps wanna have fun and fight something. But even on 100% those creatues are a huge force with lots of health(weight) and still kick really hard. Only thing thats killing a 100% prime Rex/Trike/Stego/Deino will be another one of those 4 mostly. (beside a big allo pack maybe but that will do the trick even mid prime-time imo)
Surely Deino and Herrera will even on 100% still benefit from their weight they gained. And thats all deino needs to be fair.

[quaint snow]

I wasn't refering to apexes in that regard, yes they will be powerhouses when they are at 100%.. but not really.
What i was talking about was the smaller dinos like Omni, Herra, Troodon and so on, that grow so much faster than the apexes. you barely get any real playtime with them while they are at their best.. Meaning, i have to entomb and then grow again to enjoy what.. 1 hour of gameplay at the peak of it? Or less even.

[winter void]

oh yes can somewhat agree on that to be honest. Well if i remember correct the downsides of getting old are less on really tiny ones like troodon and Beipi. For example not getting infertile.
But with the time from 75%-100% being quite the same as the base grow time it feels not as good on smaller creatures. To be fair i mostly played Cerato/Allo since HT and have to admit that even its like an hour on cera being a buffed prime for example, it feels a bit underwhelming for the effort/time you put in to get there.
as smaller creatues its really less enjoyable than bigger onces yes! Agree!

[quaint snow]

And another point, it really feels like you need to rush to get things done, to get prime.. The gameplay isn't really enjoyable that way.
When you are a smaller dino, your food goes down much faster and you are hard pressed at times to get and find food.
And on top of that, you need to meet the quotas for becoming prime.

At that point it just feels like work and not like fun.

[winter void]

yes to be honest the life of each dinosaur should be a lil longer on adult. since we got way slower growth rate the last 25% id even recommend make it even slower and give adults the chance to still hit prime until like 80% to smoothen it out a bit. it feels a bit odd to hit prime with adult at 75%. like am i adult or already old.. that is actually kinda wierd.

yes once again the smaller the creature the harder it is and the less enjoyable it is thats true.

[quaint snow]

👍 I agree with you there with the lifespan being increased, having 30mins to 1-ish hour for peak gameplay is a bit meh 🙂

[winter void]

ye, increasing the lifespan might also handle the frail/end of prime era better... since now you just get those worsen stats outta nowhere in a few grow ticks instead of having the feeling to grow old over time. its like a witch hit ya with a spell and you get old in a few minutes 😄

[quaint snow]

That is a great analogy, i like that xD
*Swish went the wand and now the dino was old" 😄

[winter void]

skidadle skidooo ya dino gets the flue 😄

its really quick getting old at the end man 😄

[uneven laurel]

It’s actually embarrassing they thought it was a good idea. Whoever introduced the idea of “frail” should be fired immediately

[covert tiger]

@knotty walrus you can see all percentages by pressing enter

Also it's actually easier to get into a server now tbh
Just wait till it's 100/100 or 101/100, then spam refresh, click connect as soon as it drops to 99

[sinful cape]

What was wrong with the que system? At least I can be inline versus spamming the refresh button...

[knotty walrus]

agreed

and what about being able to see our health??? Why do we still have the bar but it doesn't change

[winter void]

nah im fine with the idea of it. i just think it may shouldnt get THAT punnished after all 😄

[winter void]

well why should you see taht after all ? and you can also predict how hard ya goin by the blood on your screen so whats a health bar for? it also say if you are wounded i think thats plenty

[boreal sigil]

has maia speed been nerfed?

[knotty walrus]

I have a server with over 50 people in it and all of them are complaining about it. Should 100% be able to see what color your health is

[winter void]

but it doesnt really changes anything after all does it ? 😄
i mean i dont mind giving out that feature for unofficials, would be fair

[limber hull]

no

if anything, with prime, its been buffed

[uncut island]

are there no more queues to join servers anymore?

[winter void]

Nope. Just refreshing and Join servers on 99/100 sadly.

[proper otter]

All I want is for the PT to be able to fly a little faster for a longer period. I know they want to make it more ground-based at some point (which doesn't make too much sense to me, honestly, it's a mf flying reptile, it should, y'know, fly good?). I don't see why the creature should be changed now for a later implication. Why not wait until its kit is nearly finished to start making gameplay changes for it? What we have now is a half-finished animal that is just flat-out not fun to play.
With how terrible its stamina management is, and how quickly it grows, it is a race to complete tasks as quickly as you can to get Elder, and honestly, with smaller dinosaurs like that. Why even play them? The gameplay loop is short-lived, and once you reach the max amount of entombments you can for a dinosaur, why bother after?
Which I guess points to the main current flaw of the game, why any of it at all? You grow just to die, if you even make it that far. Do we play for the journey? Or do we just want to fight things?

I do agree on some of the player feedback I've seen (and I know it's all still subject to change/work in progress). The Elder system is nice in concept, but it has some flaws that need to be ironed out or even reevaluated. If you play your cards right, then yeah, you get Elder, but I do agree you should be at your prime for at least a good amount of playtime before you start to fall off, not that earning it currently is terribly difficult, but nonetheless, you've earned it and should be able to enjoy what you worked for.
If you don't play your cards right, I feel like being a normal adult for a period of time should be the outcome before succumbing to age. And if you somehow play your cards horribly wrong, you become frail.

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

this suggestion makes it that you're dissuaded from ever interacting with anyone throughout your growth because of the potential of injury

[hardy lodge]

is there a way to get to other servers than just the china ones that are popping up fo rme?

[icy lion]

Right click the game in your steam library, click properties, click betas, select the drop-down bar and select evrima

[hardy lodge]

oh weird i did that and its still all the same

[icy lion]

Try restarting steam or verifying the game files

[hardy lodge]

also i had to switch for some reason the main menu was blue and black, looked completely different

[icy lion]

Yea, that's evrima

[hardy lodge]

oh okay haha its been a long time since ive got on

[noble fern]

While the idea of an elder system sounded fantastic to me. It just seems as though it promotes regrowing a lot more, and it nerfs the playables so much. It would also make the game easier to balance if they didn’t have to factor in elders. I feel like they could have just increased the adult size of everything and called it good

[full pewter]

@cursive coral Giga and Spino are already planned, Spino is actually on the current roadmap (when it’ll release? Idk). Also worth mentioning Acro, debatable whether it counts as a true apex or not, but it is shown to be capable of taking on other apexes in its concept, so there’s that

[wooden agate]

acro is getting apex treatment according to devs so it'll likely be considered one of the carnivore apexes

[full pewter]

I think it being an apex is like considering stego an apex, like “yes, but actually no” kinda thing

[limber hull]

that sounds like by far the worst way to handle that imho

you solve and change nothing about the gameloop and only just basically boil it down to a rebalance stat change

the regrowing is actually why i like the elder system so much

more juvis, more focus on not letting your dino die for the sake of a quick fight, etc

[full pewter]

The regrowing is why I hate the elder system tbh. Like the fun I want to have with my dinos has a literal time limit now, where before, my survival would only last as long as my competence, and I liked that. It just doesn’t pair well with a game that already has little to do outside of pvp and socializing. And the reward hardly feels worth it, just entomb mutations that ultimately have little effect on your Dino’s survival, yet the devs are treating it like it’s the whole point of the gameplay loop. “Create the strongest dinosaur”, while at the same time discouraging pvp (least that what’s implied)

The funny thing is I’m not against the idea of a “time limit” as long as it’s long enough to where very few players, and only the best players can reach for the species. And of course more than enough time for players to enjoy themselves. That way elders are a rare sight and rightfully become bragging rights

[wooden agate]

elders arent meant to be a rare sight though

[full pewter]

I wish they were

Prime elders I mean

If I had my way lol, they would be

[wooden agate]

limiting the main part of the gameplay loop into becoming a rarity is not good lol

[full pewter]

Here’s my hot take, the isle doesn’t need a gameplay loop

[wooden agate]

then you probably just fundementally misunderstand the isle, and thats ok

[full pewter]

All of us got hooked into the game without it, why should it need one. Even path doesn’t have one yet it remains more popular

[full pewter]

I’m an isle YouTuber, I don’t mean to use this argument, but are you sure about that

[tired quest]

if normal elder aren't that punishing I think it will be more common

[full pewter]

My point is lots of games don’t have clearly defined gameplay loops and are still engaging and fun. The isle is fun in how it immerses you in the environment, its lore, and as a dinosaur by incentivizing you to behave more like a real animal rather than “an animal model in a game” like Path. That’s all the isle needs to be in my truly honest opinion

Or at least that’s the only thing it needs to nail

[full pewter]

And if you harm that experience, you risk ruining what makes the game special

[strange wave]

@rugged fox there is an option to change the ui color on the main menu

[tired quest]

maybe save your mutation and species you entomb and allow you to play something else?
and to prevent from abusing the system (for example spawn in a ptera to scout the surroundings)
you have to grow another specie for certain amount of time , after you died you can go back to the creature you entomb and start again

[full pewter]

I think every species should have a list of eligable species they can entomb as. But generally speaking, you could only entomb as something around your general size and smaller

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

it has a sprint? unless you mean the ambush speed, in which case, it absolutely does not need that

[patent sparrow]

they showed it to us, but they haven't given us any comments yet on whether it will be added at all. The speed of full prime is terrible for me personally as a solo survivor, where I sit in one location and wait for someone and at the same time I don't have the opportunity to catch up with the victim if someone stays away from the bushes. Why is there even an animation for allo to hold down the right mouse button? I don't think it's for beauty

and I don't want to grow a new dino every time for the sake of temporarily increased speed

[boreal sparrow]

anyone else had the locked in place bug from eating?

[limber hull]

they scrapped it because it made the animal exceptionally overpowered and polarising, thankfully only rex has it (and i dont like it on rex either lol)

[full pewter]

Better on rex than Allo tbh

[limber hull]

bad on both imho, but yes, better on rex

[patent sparrow]

again, the same 37 on full prime was, in my opinion, the golden mean

[junior nymph]

@rugged fox you can literally change the UI colour on the menu

so it can be green, red, blue or white

[patent sparrow]

@sacred leaf https://vulnona.com/game/map/#map=Gateway_v0.21/299,-350

[noble fern]

Yeah they just entomb

[limber hull]

and? whats the issue with that

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message @snow steppe can you elaborate? cause uh... i really have no idea what you mean by "modified mechanics of the 4 animals in game"

[urban flax]

Peak feedback
"You ruined the game" (doesn't even explain how or why)

[blissful atlas]

#general-feedback message

the smalls don't go infertile at 100% anymore (hypsi, troo, ptera and dryo)

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message "barely any time"?

outside of small tiers, i really just dont believe this lol

assuming everything is scaled a bit like rex, you should absolutely have more than enough time

especially considering you can now nest far earlier in your life lol

cause like, rex takes 10 hours to reach 100% after hitting 75% iirc

assuming its scaled about the same with other playables, thats like.. 2-3+ hours for things like cerato/carno AFTER reaching your adult stage

like, you can nest for a majority of your life. really struggling to see the issue here.

@inland hawk

read the devblog

[rugged fox]

Yeah, just checked….

The Ui still looks straight up UGLY even with different color options 🤷🏻‍♀️

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message
update 6

[urban flax]

Legacy

[limber hull]

in terms of balance and actual replayability, i really love this update

[junior nymph]

well it wasnt about ugliness was it? you were complaining about it being blue

[celest tinsel]

Elder should be a choice 💪

[junior nymph]

hell nah

[wooden agate]

making the main aspect of the gameplay loop optional on a player to player basis is bad

unofficials can decide if they want them disabled

[celest tinsel]

Well it does kinda suck that you grow for hours, cause obviously you wish to be big and stronk. Just to then grow old and weak and basically becomes a free meal. Some may just want to stay as an adult. Prime Elder should all of the time be stronger than adult imo. Not fall off later and be weaker than a adult.

[junior nymph]

I disagree, for small tiers sure, but something like a dibble, allo etc you literally have 3-5 hours of being a elder/prime elder and for rex, trike and stego you get 7 for stego and around 12 for rex and trike

same with deino

also making prime always powerful literally removes the idea of reaching prime you are at the peak of your life time to decline bud

and also entombment

[wooden agate]

also, unofficials are there for people who dont want the elder system

[junior nymph]

exactly

if you dont like it make a server without it

[wooden agate]

or, a better option, find one that already has it disabled lol

well maybe not better. cheaper, though

[junior nymph]

eh doubt theres a big one without it

[wooden agate]

id say cheaper is synonymous with better in this instance though

[junior nymph]

most people like the system, its just the minority that dont and thats fine

[celest tinsel]

Well I like the idea of the system

[wooden agate]

as soon as i saw it being enabled on petit/islander i knew it was basically gonna be mutations again

yeah you caaan disable them but like, who wouldv

[junior nymph]

yea

[celest tinsel]

Just sometimes you wish to stay adult, but I do love you have the gameplay loop

[junior nymph]

werent you literally saying before prime should be at all times stronger than adult meaning theres no gameplay loop?

[celest tinsel]

Yes but eventually you entomb right? To be reborn with some mutations

[junior nymph]

depends

whats the point ay? why entomb when you literally can just be strong apex

[celest tinsel]

But I guess without the aging to be weaker you wouldn't entomb 🤔

Ah whatever 😂

[junior nymph]

it also would just make clans worse

[wooden agate]

yeah theres really no reason to entomb on things like rex/deino/trike/etc because even in their frail state, the elder is just that much better than being an adult (if you hit prime)

[celest tinsel]

I mean you guys do have a point

[wooden agate]

i think the main issue is just small tiers tbh

they just need more QOL adjustments to their elders

[junior nymph]

agreed

[wooden agate]

im cautiously optimistic that the upcoming ways to pause and/or de-age your animal will help massively

[little osprey]

maybe im in the minority im not sure, haven't kept up and im just now trying the update but, what is this weird new UI, im not a fan

[foggy field]

Id increase the time it takes to reach elder, or at least make you stay has a adult for some time before start to elder up

[tulip topaz]

#general-feedback message

hell no, we cant fix a problem with another problem, thatll just create two problems

[proven zinc]

So if you dont get prime elder you're basically screwed and have to regrow a dinosaur? Doesn't that seem a bit extreme

[urban flax]

You'll have to regrow a dinosaur regardless
It's part of the gameloop

[proven zinc]

So majority of your time playing is growing you get to the stage where you can actually play the game and instantly start losing your stats. The gameloop is just suffer?

[urban flax]

You know you don't have to sit in a bush throughout your entire growth

[quaint snow]

If i reach 75% and it's not prime? I would kill it and start over instead of entombing it..

[proven zinc]

No you are forced to look up external guides to find PZ and MZ because the game doesnt cycle them fast enough for you to even find them naturally in game. Run around completing a checklist by the time that checklist is done you get to actually try and interact with other players you're a frail old man

[urban flax]

ok

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

good lol

[proven zinc]

Play any non apex and get Prime without using an online map to go to innactive PZ and MZ without being a rainman memory genius.
You start the game looking for food constantly because your hunger is being consumed at an insane rate. Then once you have that under control you're already 45% growth. For the last 30% you run around doing your location checklist hope you can get a perfect diet by some god tier luck you find another dinosaur in this giant map ONTOP of that can actually kill it AND will its organs give enough for perfect diet which needs to be sustained for some random amount of time. Only to then hit 75% enjoy the dinosaur for an hour and a half at which it becomes decrepit and you need to restart.

If you don't do this meta checklist, you're severely punished for the whole 75% to 100% growth and then forced to restart anyway.

Working in a Russian coal mine sounds more rewarding

[urban flax]

Good thing small tiers have easier requirements then

[proven zinc]

Where does it say that

[limber hull]

i think if ever there was a tutorial to be given in this game, it should be

smalls are easier than large animals, herbivores are easier than carnivores

if you want to not die first time through, don't go the biggest thing

[proven zinc]

Almost every mechanic in this game has to be researched by some community managed wiki or website or discord. You have responses like small tiers have easier prime requirements but where is that explicitly stated.

[cunning elk]

Sounds like a skill issue tbh

[proven zinc]

If they want Prime attributes to be earnt organically it shouldn't be punishment for not reaching some arbitrary goal that you dont know exists

Put you in a room with random blocks and whip you until you figure out what i want you to do.

The only reason you know what to do is because its datamined and tested by people. If you dont google every thing about this game you're SOL

[urban flax]

Believe it or not, but some people enjoy figuring things out by themselves

[proven zinc]

Even something as simple as a stamina system for games is designed to confuse people who don't google the mechanic

[cunning elk]

Or ppl learn through playing the game ? lol

[proven zinc]

how many hours do you have on isle?

[cunning elk]

I’d say about 100

[limber hull]

they are also adding tutorials

theres a whole tab for it in the UI everyone decided to hate

[proven zinc]

100 hours, can you tell me if the checklist for prime trex is different to hypsi

if so whats the difference

[cunning elk]

I don’t play hypsi so I wouldn’t know

[proven zinc]

any dinosaur then

what differences are there

out of the 100 hours and however many in hordetest what differences are there

[urban flax]

The list is the same for everyone, small dinos have to do less of the things on the list to get prime

[cunning elk]

As far as Im aware the requirements are the same

[proven zinc]

ok 2 people contradicting eachother

good game

[urban flax]

We're not contradicting each other

[cunning elk]

We just said the same thing lmao

[proven zinc]

what is the requirments for anyu dinosaur in comparison to another. How many need to be ticked off or other objectives

[cunning elk]

Idk what point you’re trying to prove here

[proven zinc]

You dont know how to stop the negative consequence of frail elder

[urban flax]

That's actually not something you need to know

[proven zinc]

you do if you dont want your dinosaur bricked

[cunning elk]

Most casuals don’t care to hit prime or make it to elder

[proven zinc]

anyone who hits 75% will care

[cunning elk]

You know how many times I’ve ran into a player and don’t know what prime is & once I’ve explained it to them they said they don’t care to do all the requirements lmao

[urban flax]

No, you don't need to know the exact amount of tasks you need to accomplish, nor do you need a checklist or a special notification to tell you you did it

You just need to play the game and do your best

[proven zinc]

play DayZ get the millitary gear and now you have 3 hours of running around before you die

you have a forced timer before you have to restart the game

[cunning elk]

Kirtap have u ever become prime elder ?

[proven zinc]

no

[cunning elk]

So then why you complaining about something you’ve never done yourself

[steady turtle]

why is frail elder even a thing? Why punish someone for spending so much time growing a dino

[proven zinc]

because ive full grown like 3 dinosaurs in the past day

[steady turtle]

not everyone has no life tho

[proven zinc]

I grow a troodon for 50 minutes. Then for 10 minutes i can play it as adult. then for 40 minutes its weak af and i have to restart

I get 10 minutes to play a expendable dinosaur

[steady turtle]

that is not a fun gameplay loop

[cunning elk]

Troodon 😭

[proven zinc]

omniraptor, alosaurus it doesnt matter

as soon as you get adult stats they start to decline

[cunning elk]

Even if u were prime troodon you’re gunna get slammed regardless if you’re prime or not

[proven zinc]

Regardless of what I play im gimped

and its not something i can control every game so why punish me

its not a skill issue if its random chance

[cunning elk]

Idk dude maybe sounds like to me you are playing too conservative