the other lights arent morse
#isle-lore-theories
echo gazelle
Yeah I was going to say, there's one on the bottom right of the Menu that may be but yeah it's too dark. Also there's one if you join a server and go into settings
trim palm
Now this one... this one I got today really caught me offguard
on a non-official server a streamer got access to playing a hypo, thats the context. so its clearly not-canon, but i like the nod
the 'through chaos' bit is what got me as interesting, but after thinking about it for more than a microsecond its probs just to explain how a random got access to hypo
oak pumice
it's Ian Malcolm and his chaos theory again
icy onyx
awkward laugh
unkempt eagle
a streamer played has a Hypo? why doesnt that surprise me
vestal gust
The streamer is MoeBetta_TV, dondi and him have already teamed for an event.
fossil lily
That does seem like the perfect way to indicate when a strain has emerged on the server
My guess is when someone goes Neuro it will have to do with Intelligence
dry holly
Is The Isle.... Hell? It seems like it after reading those transmissions a few times
Not a lake of fire, but you die over and over and over. There is no end.
regal locust
Oh boy, time to stream The Isle and get a free strain.
In all seriousness though. This isn't really something to worry about, just a way to explain a streamer getting a strain. There's no possible way to explain the context to the whole "Through Chaos" thing as we don't really have anything else to back it up.
keen jasper
I mean it could be comparable to hell
Neverending lives, dying and going back into another vessel
But we don't know why.
Are we here to suffer or is this a test/experiment?
dry holly
Seems like it started as a test. Now things are messed up
The words are glitchy
Looks like its been sabotaged at one point
river marsh
umbral tusk
Tartarus - a part of the underworld where the wicked suffered punishment for their misdeeds, especially those such as Ixion and Tantalus who had committed some outrage against the gods.
umbral tusk
It’s part of Hell, but ‘hell’ and ‘purgatory’ is an entirely different thing than ‘tartarus’. Tartarus is basically where the bad guys send the bad guys.
fickle vector
Yeah, to get to Tartarus you would need to anger the gods in some way. Usually knowing about them but refusing to acknowledge them in anyway.
Or defy them in some way. In that case you REALLY get punished. Stuff like pushing a boulder uphill for eternity.
polar prism
i think we need someone to die literally a thousand times (like the messages have said) and see if that gives us the end credits
echo gazelle
No, I don't believe you have to die 1000 times, if so someone already has surpassed that limit by now. Plus I don't think the lore is meant to be discovered so early in development. It will take the effort of the entire community to figure it out though.
broken grotto
so, can anyone talk me up on the update?
(with that i mean interesting new buildings and stuff, lore related things)
mighty abyss
Big ass fences, updated Docks
twin vale
some barriers were put up to discourage players from wandering into the part of the level that hasn't been finished yet.
sleek temple
u see the big fences
that try to block u from getting to the islands
i bet they are for keeping a hypo spino out
cuz of all the islands hypo spino can swim to
tranquil galleon
Did you just completely ignore dinosauriac’s message?
sharp osprey
So what's up with those cannibal statues. What exactly will be the humans on the island. Like native tribes or something
fallen ledge
Yeah natives and mercs, which are like modern humans with guns n shit
sharp osprey
@fallen ledge That's kinda cool actually.
fallen ledge
Just check the Steam product page
sharp osprey
I wonder if the natives won't take kindly to the mercs stepping on their turf
Yeah I should lmao. But I like talking about it here
fallen ledge
I also do but I mean there are a few cool points to check out about what's planned :)
sharp osprey
@fallen ledge Oooh more complex AI. That's good. That means hunting can be more interesting for carnivores that still don't feel ready to tackle player herbis
compact musk
Saw this go up in Anth’s video - it’s from the running images at the top of the screen when you first load up (it flashes for a moment before disappearing)
carmine marsh
pretty sure that's just the old tribal placeholder model using the old torch
compact musk
Not sure, still pretty cool though and I’ve never seen it :))
tiny carbon
He's right, that's just a screenshot of the old tribal holding a torch to a trike. Nothing new there
sharp osprey
So I wonder if in a server, we'd encounter one strain at a time or something
The strains monsters I mean
Like Hypo Colossus
keen jasper
Where are the menu feedback cams?
Most of them appear to be moving, some of them are placed in a spot and not moving, simply watching over a long course of time
obviously labelled "Observation records"
oak pumice
plot twist, some of the AI are robots with cameras in them
or there are cameras hidden/camouflaged in rocks idk
keen jasper
i suppose
echo gazelle
Most of the recordings in the Menu are footage from Fan Trailers back when there was a competition for the Official Isle Trailer. Though there are a couple that are different from the bunch. One of them being recording from Thenyaw's Radio Tower cameras and the second is from the center lake on Thenyaw that players considered Party Pond. That footage alone is sped up sort of in a day/night cycle, revealing all the players gathering at this single Pond. The recordings overall could just represent footage from an Observable Area within Tartarus, which is where us the players could be. Since it is written as Observation Records Site I-04, this could mean this is one of 11 Sites that correspond to Tartarus. The 12th site maybe being Tartarus which is where the Transmissions come from but that's a far stretch. The console interaction also mentions observable areas after a User asked about the Matriarch, which will be redistributed within observables areas of Tartarus for study once another profile is complete. But that's my thoughts on the menu recordings.
oak pumice
the footage where all the dinos are around the center lake of Thenyaw looks like it has skin mods included
echo gazelle
I doubt it, Skins were disabled by the time Thenyaw came around. The footage is in Black and White as well, making it hard to tell, also I don't think skins being included has anything to deal with the recordings overall.
oak pumice
looks like the red spino skin from Primordial Tyrants
skin mods were working for a little while before some new big update came out, though
from july 12, sitting in party pond before it got wiped
echo gazelle
Oh that's from the photo carousel above, then yeah some of them have old photos from when Skins were in still. I thought we were talking about the videos. Yeah I forgot Skins were still a thing for a very short time after Thenyaw's arrival. But interesting, they knew everyone would spend the last moments at that pond so it was "Observed".
oak pumice
the grainy photo/screenshot of the spino up there ^ is from one of the video reels
MenuFeed_03
feral pond
sleek temple
i think the "unfinished islands" will become primary human base areas because of their isolation from the main island
paper herald
Could be prime sucho/deino lands too
wicked helm
Or it Will become a place for new aquatic dinosaurs? Might be over exagerating but it is an idea
tiny carbon
If I'm not mistaken aquatic creatures were planned, so that would be the perfect place for them to hang out and chillax. As for dinosaurs that were put into an isolated environment though, it does beg the question of if that was the case then why are they given free access to the ocean and aren't also caged in?
bold shale
I think the currently fenced area would be a good spawn for Flyers, or even aquatic creatures if there are more rivers connecting to the sea to they can make their way inland safely
keen pollen
Maybe they will re-implement the flooding system so their will be brief periods where all land creatures will need to stay in the high ground as water creatures have easier access to land previously untouchable
tiny carbon
re-implement? I don't think that's ever officially been in. I know that there was a lake on a desert map that would fill itself up after being drained but it wasn't an official map and that's the only thing I can think of.
and the currently fenced area as far as we're aware is only fenced off because it "isn't finished" implying that work will eventually be done to it and the fence will get removed
keen pollen
Ah, that's probably what I'm thinking of! I heard something about it from a friend, but I'm fairly new so I probably misunderstood!
hidden totem
So I decided to dig into the mystery of the Strains and as a bit of a science nerd, I found this interesting. What I have theorized is that AE had contained the three representations of the strains (Colossus, Echidna, and Gargoyle) in some part of the V3 island to study and impliment these strains into military use or other means. At some point, the three broke containment and began to rampage around the island which is why at the main menu of the The Isle has roars and gunfire (From Anths video) and the possibility of choosing humans to play as in the future aka the survivors of the containment breach.
Now this is a theory and it maybe wrong, I just wanted to put my thoughts on how AE got the strains and the Main Menu background sounds
glossy abyss
That’s pretty noice. I just wanna know how the natives come to play
echo gazelle
The indigenous could have been around before AE controlled the Island. But since they've witnessed the the power of the Replicator, they see it as a God or deity therefore turning to worship.
glossy abyss
I had the thought that because all the buildings are destroyed is because the strains attacked . The natives are the ones left over after all this time... but that doesn’t explain the mercenary
hidden totem
It could be some other company gaining interest on the Isle and hearing rumors of prehistoric creatures walking around in modern day is appealing to many genetic research companies. The Mercs are sent in with two objectives, find any research in relation to the strains and monitor the natives.
hidden totem
Now I decided to try and look for any information relating to the Replicator for some more science related information....found nothing according to the wikia for the Isle.
So what I have to assume is that the Replicator is a piece of advanced technology that produces the dinosaurs of the Isle and other creatures. The main question is who left that sort of technology behind?
forest bronze
So what we know so far: Someone played god and created dinosaurs.. like jurassic park. THEN, someone became a god and created something new (hypos, tissos, neuros) then, something really bad happened. That’s about it so far
it’s really really vague.. but in a good way
echo gazelle
@hidden totem check the pinned messages above, go to Taters website
forest bronze
perhaps something went wrong with this so called replicator. A glitch, maybe, and instead of creating a dinosaur, something unsightly and awful was made, and couldn’t be contained with the technology they had for normal dinos
idk it’s cool to think about
echo gazelle
I recommend reading through the console interaction
hidden totem
With the recent info, I will look through them to figure out something. I dont know what but I will figure out whats going on and make another shot at decyphering the hidden story of the Isle
sleek temple
tbh ive crossed the fenced area and made my way to lazy river through the islands as dryo so i think if it as a really fun migration patterm for dryos/pachys or maias but what i think is humans have boats they can craft and use that to cross from island 2 island and mabye they will add a big fence around the hole area and use it for aquatic containment but then there would most likely be bridges across to each island but i do think its something important for the mercs
hidden totem
Or....its an attempt to make a safe zone for any survivors for extraction. Think about it, in a Containment Breach Scenario what would you do?
sleek temple
yea
that would be like a refugee camp type thing
because the island itself looks over ran by nature
but them fences look kinda polished meaning people must still be somewhere
hidden totem
Now I would like to discuss why the Colossus, Echidna, and Gargoyle looked like humans due to thier body shape....I may have a theory on this.
My thought process is that during the process of creating the three strains is that the creatures would need a base DNA strand to start.....dinosaurs would be obvious but the next best base DNA is human, its adaptable and its modifiable.
Now based on the information the Tessiplastic Reaper was the first to be created so I can safely say its the oldest in the strains so it maybe possible that the T-Series strain was a trial run before the N-Series and H-Series was created
The Concept Art for reference
https://the-isle-dinosaur-game.fandom.com/wiki/Hyperendocrin_Colossus
https://the-isle-dinosaur-game.fandom.com/wiki/Neurotenic_Mastermind
https://the-isle-dinosaur-game.fandom.com/wiki/Tissoplastic_Reaper
Again its a theory but it sort of makes sense if you look at the concept art
sleek temple
hypo col has a model
hidden totem
I prefer concept art cause its better to analyze
Anyway I could be wrong but the evidence is pretty likely human for base genetics
bronze pike
Actually dondi already said reaper wouldn't look like that
broken grotto
has anyone touched into the idea of those big gates spliting the island up into several locations we heard about? (like Sector 4 in the loading screen binary, the southern platteau (where the carnotaurs are said to be in a loading screen) and the East Valley Paddock where the Utah's roam (also loading screen information))
hidden totem
Wait really? @bronze pike
bronze pike
Yeah he said that like months ago
past badge
They just look so comical and out of place
Looks like they should be in the forest not the isle lmao
bronze pike
Said he hated how reaper looked and it wouldn't look like that
Plus those are old af so wouldn't put much stock into em anyways
deft cipher
I have a theory that if the isle would exist in our world that it would be located north-east of New-Zealand. Because you can see the southern light from New-Zealand. There are geisers and mountains on V3 (and maybe volcanoes in the future) which means that it has to be located near a fault line and there is a fault line that goes through New-Zealand. And there are both rain forests and coniferous forests located in New-Zealand and Australia. What do you guys think about this theory?
hidden totem
@bronze pike still worth some discussion over
fallow maple
Can’t really see the T reaper looking like anything else tbh
brave ivy
Too cold
fallow maple
After seeing and knowing about this concept art for so long
fallow maple
No
It can’t be replaced if they are 2 different entities
And dondi basically confirmed that it’s not scrapped
Because it’s getting a remodel sometime
polar prism
yeah in five years
tranquil galleon
@sleek temple a developer has said it himself, the fence is to stop you from going into an unfinished area of the map that is uninhabitable
wicked helm
he's right tho^
icy onyx
Can't you just swim around it?
sleek temple
yea u can and its not really uninhabitable i ate plants out there
bold shale
I still think that area will be the flyer spawn, since it's so easy for them to get out but nobody can really get in
junior sun
@bold shale Devs have stated the only reason the fences are there is because it's barren and they're working on it. The fences will be removed when the area is complete.
severe lark
^^^
bold shale
I understand why the fences are there, I'm just giving a possibility for the areas future
oak pumice
archipelago will be the new utah rock
flyer island, where nothing can get to them except other fliers
nothing can really swim around the fences except sucho
fallen ledge
There is already a new Utah rock where you can nest and camp and just jumpers get on... but I don't dare to make it public lol
slow delta
...
hidden totem
Looking through the Isle Lore and I mean all of it. I think I have figured out what caused the Isles systems to fail
hidden totem
In one of the loading screen texts it talks about the AE systems detecting crainal abnormalities within an Allosaurus and I thought this would lead me into finding out what caused the system to freak out and boy I was onto something.
The lore entry on the allosaurus goes as and I quote "ALL ISLAND VISITORS MUST WEAR ID TAGS AT ALL G... TRACKING ERROR, PLEASE ALERT AE SYSADMIN. CRANIAL ABNORMALITY DETECTED IN SEQUENCE DESIGNATE AE-BLS-037, RE-SEQUENCING... WELCOME TO THE ISLE.SYSTEM READY. WELCOME TO THE ISLE.WE SUCCEED WHERE NATURE FAILS.DEATH IS ONLY THE BEGINNING. THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END- LOCKDOWN PROTOCOL IN EFFECT. CHECKING ALL SYSTEMS."
Now reading this it made me have an interesting theory of events. What I think is that the allosaurus got infected with the Neuro strain and started to become self-aware (Which is a red flag for those that know Sci-Fi) and tried to flood the systems with its thought pattern to breach containment
Now two possibilites are found here, one way is that the System Administrator managed to activate lockdown procedures before it escaped or it did managed to escape and its now running around the Isle causing untold havoc
Sorry for earlier, pressed the wrong button and the entire theory went poof
broken grotto
it's a interesting theory to say the least
dapper goblet
I could see it
oak pumice
"CRANIAL ABNORMALITY DETECTED IN SEQUENCE DESIGNATE AE-BLS-037, RE-SEQUENCING"
maybe this is a reference to the remodel the allo got? 🤔
dusk axle
the question is @oak pumice wich remodel, the first or the second, for how it looks like is the second, the third allosaurus evolution hasnt been noticed yet?
slow delta
@oak pumice it probably is
sleek temple
why is it that
when u go near buildings that arnt over ran by nature u get a logo static screen
but when u go near ones over ran by nature its just static
im assuming the logo one means to go away
or
logo one means the building is intact but static without logo means its destroyed
polar prism
because there’s people in the logo not over run ones
also they haven’t gotten to changing the others yet
icy onyx
@deft cipher That would be so cool, if v3 was in new zealand cause im from there
untold apex
I theorize! That @olive burrow is being coi. He is teasing us with information that we do not have yet and deliberately waving in front of us.
I propose action! The next time he makes a pun, Just stare at him.
(For information look in Ask a dev info)
fossil lily
Oh boy I sense a hell of a ton lore coming our way with the recode
umbral tusk
Has anyone decided that Binary at the bottom of that image?
regal locust
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That's what we got.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Courtesy of Moon.
umbral tusk
damn.
Not sure if that’s the right alphabet but that’s the only thing that is remotely similar lmao
Then again Google Translate isn’t the most reliable source.
icy onyx
gaster
broken grotto
it isn't wingdings (don't ask, i learned Wingdings cause i used to be a undertale fan)
compact hazel
What even is wingdings
echo gazelle
So I have a quick theory. The Isle can be an ancient scientific facility based on Alchemy. Which is a branch of natural philosophy or protoscientific tradition, originating in Greco-Roman(Ancient Greek/Roman). Alchemy basically aims to purify, mature and perfect certain objects, in our case organisms. Apollo Engineering's first attempt to create the perfect organism was Project All-Father or the Magna Rex, which was speculated to relate to Magna Mater but in my theory it could be related to Magnum Opus. Magnum Opus or The Great Work is an alchemical term for the process of working with the "prima materia" to create the philosopher's stone. Philosopher's Stone can also be called the Elixir of Life (A potion or perhaps the water we drink as Dinosaurs) which is useful for rejuvenation and achieving immortality. It was also the central symbol of mystical terminology of alchemy, symbolizing perfection at its finest. Prima Materia was a primitive formless base of all matter similar to "Chaos" or "Aether". But anyway, the Magnum Opus originally had a variety of alchemical symbols, birds like the Raven or Swan but in our case the Phoenix. It also originally contained 4 Phases. That's all I've got for now. All this connects to the Hermetic tradition (Hermes) which is a spiritual transmutation known as Chrysopoeia.
sleek field
This just ties back to my APOLLO theory. Im 100% sure that apollo is a big company of some sort like jurassic park
compact hazel
vernal coral
new radio shack on-top of the mountain has a bloody hand-print, only one to do so..
i wonder if something escaped and attacked? what do you think?
bronze pike
could be an homage to JP tbh
i mean it's also a classic ploy in most stories that involve death to put bloody hand prints places'
regal locust
They’re just there for decoration as it doesn’t really explain anything, nor does it seem important. We can already assume people used the buildings as they’re.. y’know, buildings? I don’t think AE would make buildings and then just leave them. Not trying to be malicious or anything but it’s just a handprint.
oak pumice
headcanon that the buildings lead down to an underground lab or something and the buildings themselves are just ports of entry
that could be where the human test subjects are kept and where the dinosaurs are grown
raven lion
What is Apollo Engineering? Is this Isle a government-funded project, or is it some private company?
icy onyx
It's a Company that creates Dinosaurs and they are in a rivalry with Pheonix Corp
That's all you need to know
raven lion
What's Phoenix Corp?
icy onyx
Another company that creates dinosaurs
abstract lintel
So its 2 companys fighting each other by creating more and more absurd dino mutants
icy onyx
Basically yeah
lyric fox
Isn't Phoenix Corp the one from Primal Carnage? I didn't think the games were connected.
icy onyx
They are
mighty abyss
I don't think it's explicitly stated whether Apollo and Phoenix are in contention with one another or not
dusk axle
imo, the baddest of them both is AE, i could even bet on that AE was behind Ps fail
raven lion
Wait is this game connected to Primal Carnage? What game company even makes the Isle?
echo gazelle
@raven lion There's obvious clues that it is and is highly speculated. Like B-443 was the Rex from Primal Carnage but is now considered a Growth Facility or even the Magna Rex in The Isle.
raven lion
Oh cool. I've never played Primal Carnage.
But what's the game company that made the Isle?
warped coral
"Afterthought LLC"- basically what it says on the tin, don needed a name so there we have it
raven lion
NIce
I hope there will be a single player campaign or something when the game is the finished that reveals the whole story about the Isle.
wooden crypt
Single player would be dumb
meager moon
icy onyx
A dev already confirmed single player would be a feature in the future
sand laurel
Single player might be human only
Detailing the fall of everything, like he said, the story part of what happened, maybe even making the strains yourself and then when it falls and you die you can be reborn as a dino?
mighty abyss
The Isle: Genesis
sand laurel
I saw somewhere that someone got a message saying something like a 1000 deaths is what you owe apollo so maybe your a human trapped in the dino simulation to try to take down the strains as punishment for creating them? Idk I'm still pretty new to the isle so I'm not caught up fully on what's been released
junior sun
Um, Dondi has said specifically that there will be no single player
UNless you mean single player as in run around your own server by yourself surviving off AI.......that's the only single player that's intended. Solo play, essentially.
sand laurel
Fair enough, I was just saying that if there was a single player version that would be cool to kinda see it all go to hell 😂 other then that tho I don't see how single player would work/be fun
rustic knoll
Reminder to read channel descriptions before posting anywhere. This channel is for theories about The Isle's lore.
umbral tusk
There's also a website containing all lore that we've gathered so far in the pinned thingy.
icy onyx
AE's Dinosaurs are Hybrids, if they have good conditions they can grow bigger and get armor around them what isn't normal. They have custom DNA what allows them to get full adult in only Hours or days. Some of creatures Mutations allows them to be faster, poisonous, more dangerous and even use Camouflage, all depends on conditions. How we can see AE scientists are playing with Humans, they turn Tribals, Prisoners or Randoms to a strange Creature called "CANNIBAL" we really do not know if it's scientists work or aggressive or strange Virus or maybe its just an dark secret hiding in the AE's files.
tepid hollow
Woah that's a nice way of putting it
icy onyx
@icy onyx where does the Replicator fit into this all.
"Replicator"? @icy onyx
You dont know what the replicator is?
It basically is an AI I believe working for AE.
🤔 It's been awhile but it is definitely an AI. And Still in the lore.
phoenix corp form primal carnage is kind of lore too.
Magna Tyranus is a Phoenix corp t-rex
echo gazelle
So I could be wrong. But could the transmissions be coming from another profile, trying to communicate or warn us of the upcoming things? Not sure if any of you remember or are aware of dondi mentioning Type-H, Type-N, Type-M and Type-T and what happens when you combine them. Well HNMT is a genetic code that counteracts with one another. Histamine in the mammalian brain is treated as a neurotransmitter, if our consciousness were tranferred into a wild-type gene (The Dinosaurs) this could cause numerous disfunctions. Histamine is a regulation of biological processes including inflammation, gastric acid secretion and neuromodulation. But idk just a thought.
brave ravine
HMNT could be letters that are part of a bigger word. A word that could be used to describe the Dino created if you combine all 4 types into one creature. Sort of a God-like creature of mythical proportions. I got one would love to see each Dino be given a final form. Either H, M, N or T type that would take longer to reach than the other stages but would also be MUCH MUCH more powerful than the previous stages. This would give people a reason to do whatever it takes to keep their Dino’s alive long enough to grow to this level. A level that can’t be achieved in Sandbox servers, only survival! Just my opinion though.
dull osprey
isnt it just hypo, magna, neuro, tisso?
hearty mulch
there was a suggestion that the anagram is significant
dull osprey
hmm
i think the strains are all pretty godly in their own— plus i doubt you’d ever get past a greater strain once becoming it. becoming HMNT is the greatest achievement in itself i think
hearty mulch
teenage mutant ninja humans
narrow moss
@brave ravine and then perhaps that super powerful creature is the skeleton lying at the bottom of Titan Lake! 😮
icy onyx
Just asking because I didn't see anybody do it yet, but what do ya'll think kept the Pteras and other flying creatures from just leaving the island? 🤔
sleek temple
avieary?
rustic knoll
@tidal sigil Not appropriate for this channel, use #401464048610312195 instead. This is for discussing The Isle's lore.
tidal sigil
my bad
high heath
Since the new path ways are being made for aquatics, I assume that there will be an underwater base or ruins for creatures like Deinosuchus to explore?
I mean, there is that huge skeleton with ruins next to it, I would think aquatics would explore them, find some tidbits of lore
modern tangle
maybe hypos didnt really exist in real life
sage wedge
icy onyx
fickle vector
Hypos don't even exist in game!
high heath
Since the Hypo Tyrannosaurus can practically kill anything, perhaps they are the sort of...guard dogs/peace keepers of the island? I mean, Dondi did take care of a large pack of Tyrannosaurus once, so, the Hypo animals could be a balance or a reset for the enviornment.
They kill everything, then eventually starve, then the creatures can repopulate. Then, when the Dinosaurs start to overpopulate, a Hypo is sent in the clear it out.
Intruders on the island, if not killed by the animals, would be hunted down by strain animals, as a sort of test for something...
icy onyx
time travel
sharp osprey
@high heath That's a good theory but what about the actual strains avatar. The Hyperendocrin Colossus. How does he factor into this.
hidden totem
My guess is that the Colossus is the "When shit hits the fan" solution. Meaning if the Echidna or the Gargoyle ever show up, another creature of massive proportions is needed for the task
bronze pike
@hidden totem soooo he is Godzilla? Cuz that sounds like Godzilla king of the monsters
hidden totem
shrug again that my thought process but I could be wrong
mighty abyss
Game Theory: Apollo Engineering as actually a subsidiary company of Monarch??!
regal locust
No.
I don’t think they could do that legally, and besides, there’s already an overwhelming amount of evidence that supports it’s simply tied to primal carnage (although not strongly at all).
high heath
They could be a sort of...partner company. Or, well, they could of bought the assets from the company in Primal Carnage
After all, Dondi did say he bought the assets, so, we could see some Novaraptors for the made up species in the game
sharp osprey
@bronze pike I'm looking forward to that movie
bronze pike
Actually @high heath they have said the Utah raptor is getting a name change in the future what we got now could be nova
high heath
Utahraptor? Thought it was just getting a feathered version
Also, we do have Velociraptor and Utahraptor, pretty sure a Novaraptor would fit in.
shut meteor
That will be hella interesting, do you think they might add underwater and flying dinosaurs?
high heath
They do have a Quetz and Ptero
Which reminds me, perhaps there will be bases where animals that can climb or fly can get in them
thick pollen
Is there already a theory about maybe humans having their conscious like downloaded into the dinosaurs? The island is abandoned because all the humans there creating dinosaurs became dinosaurs and the new humans that are coming out is like a military sent to kill all of them for their immoral use of technology? (Maybe they forced people to become dinosaurs) (Or maybe because they all went crazy when they became dinosaurs and are out of control and need to be "put down") That would explain why you can view your "growth" in a computer looking tablet even though you are a dinosaur. I don't know I just thought about it the other day and found it really interesting.
high heath
Well, from what we know, the Dinosaurs are natural to the island. The Tribals are too, which makes me think the strains are not natural. AE may have something to do with them. The consciences being put into the Dinosaurs would be odd.
thick pollen
yeah its just the accessing of the growth computer seems weird to me. If it was just a ui that was like a foresty background then that would be fine but the fact that its a computer bugs me. I dont know just thought of the theory the other day and thought it was interesting. maybe its just a dev thing and they didnt want to make a new ui away from the aspect of computers lol i dont know
high heath
Well, it could be like trackers/drones following the animals
thick pollen
That is also very much possible. The only thing I would have against that is how de we then control the dinosaurs? Or are WE the dinosaurs being followed by the drones
and the fact that we see other dinos but they dont have drones above them
high heath
I believe we are the Dinosaurs, while the drones/trackers just check up on us (such as, when you die, the heart beat counter goes flat)
icy onyx
Or you know an implant.
high heath
Yeah...a tracker.
echo gazelle
Our consciousness was transferred into the mind of a Dinosaur, this is known and is a fact. Just read through the Olympus Transmitter and it pretty much foreshadows a trapped soul inside a never ending life cycle.
bronze pike
well for one
stop using reaper
since that version does not represent tisso
but i think the human versions were genetic mistakes from scientist who got cocky after applying it to dinos
so i think lore wise they will play a part in the facilities fall especially echidna
tbh i feel like since hypos are just kill eat kill eat etc
that collossus is probably very stupid and food driven
so lore wise echidna probably orchastrated the escape and used him/her to break out due to it's massive size and power
dull osprey
@thick pollen added on to that maybe thats why theres no reason to kill dinos besides self defense as a human
i remember hearing that a human would have no real reason to kill a dinosaur like a rex besides bragging rights
bronze pike
Mercs anyway something bout humans shouldnt eat dino
quasi creek
Dino steaks 🥩😋
bronze pike
My theory is there's a chemical In the dinosaur that makes them deadly to humans or they know dinos carry strains so they dont want to risk infection
dull osprey
thats actually a cool idea that dinos carry strains
dusk axle
if i recall correctly the Hyperendocrine collosus, was big enough to carry a puertasaurs over his shoulder like a potatoe sack, and if im right, the isle walkers were just so fucking massive that they could eat easylly the collosuss, so makes you wonder whos keeping in check who, although ma theory is that the biggest thing in the isle, adn the all powerfull being that somehow is either been work with or controlled it the procreaors or duplicator, or whatever is called
limber jacinth
wait, @bronze pike what represents the tisso strain now ?
bronze pike
We dont know
We haven't seen anything yet
Just know don said reaper wont represent tisso
bronze pike
@limber jacinth keep in mind outside hypos and neuro spino we haven't see other strains
limber jacinth
yeah true
a good question is why the strains exist, whether they are viruses , genetic modifications or something else its strange that creatures like this guy are
and also is this guy confirmed
icy onyx
No none of this is confirmed
bronze pike
Like I said no tisso atm should be taken seriously
tiny carbon
Sadly, those two ☝ are right. Unless it was uploaded after Tapwing became a dev, we cant say much about tissos.
icy onyx
Even so Tissos could be challed up to failed experiments. Mass mutation in a standardized animal causing a positive change is a common thing under the rigors of modern science
severe void
Two words selective breeding
icy onyx
this first movie, the concept art looks a lot like the art from the isle
https://youtu.be/sTNa-Af9K1w
icy onyx
tisso is going for an entire rebuild iirc
it used to be tisso was like the hunter/ mammilian
neuro was the smart/oceanic
and hypo was the bulkyfighter/reptillian
now we dont know what
dusk axle
@fallow maple i doubt matriarch will be that huge, if i recall it was probably the most powerfull of them all, desnt have to be the biggest, imo the biggest thing will be able to see will probably be the machine/deity/thinggy called the replicator
turbid gale
ok so this is a little random but im at radio tower and i hear the game sounds from the menu screen i think there could be the person watching the dinos in there
finite tapir
That might be a bug since I heard the menu sounds in the swamp.
hearty osprey
they're in the swamp too
mighty abyss
They're in the trees! They're in the trees!
I wonder if humans will be able to climb trees
or anything
brave ivy
I feel like there is an infection or some artificial thing going on with the dinos based on their eyes. It looks very Red or infected of sorts.
slow delta
:/
fallow maple
Looks like normal eye colour to me
As in
It’s not like it’s something newly added
brave ivy
Open original it's much more red when you see the full size
regal locust
Eyes don’t matter.
bronze pike
I doubt lore wise there's a living person in the tower
calm peak
Maybe he got a leaf poked into his eye
eternal tide
Twitter
Matthew Mercer as a human character in the isle?
Honestly I would be extremely impressed if it happened and would be very hyped
odd sable
bronze pike
uhm guys this chats for lore xD take that to discussions or off topic
sudden prawn
Ecks dee
icy onyx
so what do you think is AE goal in sending theyre mercenaries to the isle
severe void
Exterminate their failures and cover it up >>
sharp osprey
@severe void 👍
severe void
I'm a conspiracy theorist believer lol so definitely not gonna give great answers
bold shale
Does anyone think they will attempt to add that Hypo Quetz we saw in along with the other flyers?
sage wedge
this is for lore theories @bold shale
lucid pagoda
Thinking the mercenaries are for over population
bold shale
I assumed hypos were a part of the lore @sage wedge
sage wedge
yeah they are but just saying "does anyone think theyll add >insert hypo here<" isnt really talking about lore theories cause just adding a hypo doesnt really have to do with lore its just a new dino @bold shale
bold shale
Alrighty then my bad
broken grotto
@icy onyx to retake the Island to experiment further after the breakouts
icy onyx
Or maybe they are after the data still within the AI.....
cinder atlas
Reminder to read the channel description. @lyric ibex Only warning.
timber sorrel
Hey, I don't know if you guys have already saw this, but I found this while I was flying around in replay under Titan's Lake.
echo gazelle
@timber sorrel yeah that's the giant skeleton thats been speculated to be either an Island Walker or the Matriarch. But nobody knows. The ruins and the skeleton were both in the Redwoods before but now they're underwater.
timber sorrel
oh, ok
icy onyx
i hope that doesnt get into the final version of the game
timber sorrel
yah
keen jasper
island walker?
neon helm
What the F word is a "Island Walker"?
mellow parrot
It's as the name States it, a Island Walker
timber notch
Never heard of it but it looks like a reaaaally big spino
echo gazelle
That's because it's more of a term for something bigger than a colossus itself. Dondi talked about something that could legitametely walk across islands. Now that skeleton seems like a fair size for it to be an Island Walker because i cant imagine anything bigger to the point where it takes 1 step and is on another island. @timber notch @neon helm @keen jasper
keen jasper
cool
icy onyx
Think it's just a giant hypo spino the ruins could be easter egg about that one big dev event where the spino mass killed people on V2 near the desert ruins
mellow parrot
Hypers don't get THAT big
echo gazelle
I doubt a Hypo Spino could grow to that size. Hypos already suffer from hunger depletion so they're always eating everything they see. There's a video of IGP featuring dondi and IGP said it probably died from stravation because of how massive it is, then dondi said that's not how it died. The ruins although could be what you said
mellow parrot
Plus if you were to compare the skeleton to that of a pue, it's I'd say 10X larger then it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong there
echo gazelle
It is definitely bigger than a Pue, when it was in the Redwoods you can still see the ribs from afar
mellow parrot
I mean, it could be a matriarch skeleton, as they are in lore suppose to grow into THE LARGEST living creatures
and with those spines, it could be possible but at the same time, it could be an island walker that died to either A.) Another island walker or B.) A grown matriarch
echo gazelle
Yeah that's what I've been running with for a while. It's either the Island Walker or Matriarch but my bet is on Matriarch. Also the Console interaction when asked about the Matriarch said "I have developed a completely adaptable organism within Tartarus. Once another profile is complete, the Matriarch will redistribute within observable areas of Taratrus for study."
dusk axle
if i recall matriarch was yhea huge but number one, it was powerfull, isle walker seems more legit, since i cant imagine a reason for matriarch to gbecome that big.
mighty abyss
maybe it was just a very, very big sauropod
stuck imp
Is this an accurate size representation, because i heard in anths vid that HE heard that somebody had said that it was EVEN bigger, because if this is inaccurate, and it's even bigger, then who knows, maybe the skeleton belongs to this? (i mean yeah i don't see any spines but shush)
compact musk
Dang that thing is a beast
devout thicket
the hell is thst
edgy pike
@stuck imp The sizing is unconfirmed for now as that was fan art at the time
stuck imp
k
mellow parrot
As far as we know, it's suppose to be large enough to throw a pue over it's shoulder
And that was drawn BEFORE tap was a dev
bronze pike
@devout thicket thats Collosus
devout thicket
Lovely
dusk axle
@stuck imp thats Twings representation of the thing, iirc she said that it was a scale down of the creature since the original concept or somehting was able to carry a pue over its shoulder with ease like a puetotatoe sack
stuck imp
kk
lucid pagoda
Pue?
mellow parrot
Puertasaurus. The sauropod that will eventually be replaced by Brachi
frank grail
hey did yall see that they find a new T-Rex fossil biggest one yet so T-Rex is bigger then we thought it was
sage wedge
Not a lore theory but ok
hearty fox
Still not a lore theory
frank grail
yeah i clicked on wrong tab it seems lol
hearty fox
Lemme just <@&401466542140817419>
icy onyx
@frank grail That goes in #paleotalk
placid harness
Type-D is a fan strain.
I don't watch Anthomnia. Is he really pushing out all these fan arts like they're canon?
tranquil galleon
@hearty fox That wasn’t necessary, he clearly knew he made a mistake
broken grotto
anyone talking about that type-D voice log yet?
i found it on Anthomnia's video and it's.. very interesting, hope someone had more information
oh.. nvm it's a fan made.. damn that was nice tho xD
icy onyx
probs dumb question, but are the redwoods gone? :0
echo gazelle
So I translated the Light Morse marked on the photo to the bottom right and got a pattern saying this:
Mesozoic Triassic Jurassic Cretaceous Pachycephalosaurus Suchomimus Spinosaurus Stegosaurus
My guess is it has to deal with the Radar in the background. We can now confirm it is searching in areas for fossilized Dinosaurs throughout each Era. The Pachycephalosaurus and Suchomimus were recently added, next up being Spinosaurus and Stegosaurus.
coarse hare
You sayed... S p I n O ?!
But stego will comes before
If is it
I will have an orgasm
ember flame
I guess there not in order
mighty abyss
Triassic... So plateosaurus eventually huh
icy onyx
Wouldn't it be petra and stego? They havent shown spino being worked on stream and with pachy and sucho they did
icy onyx
I wonder if certain strains are only obtained by some creatures, i mean spino has both type-H and type-N, would giga only have type-H and type-T
dusk axle
imo apex will have acces to all strains, while mid tiers and smal tiers to some or none at all.
eternal tide
carno and utah have strains
Cerato and allo more dubious
I feel like if another mid-tier theropod got strains, it would be allo
and if another small-tier theropod got strains, it would be dilo
icy onyx
well Dilo was the venom apex so that isint an issue
long kernel
if I remember the progression lists from long time ago
there were certain trees with dinos in them like carno is the apex of the speed tree hence why it's getting strain versions
utah pounce tree apex etc
raw flare
I'd love to see a dilo with the camo strain
delicate swan
@icy onyx True, but they showed them once they were almost completed.
jolly lintel
icy onyx
well dondi did tease about v3 earlier in #401464048610312195
bronze pike
what did he tease
icy onyx
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401547025063084034/561734927209463814/Screenshot_20190330-191356_Discord.jpg some other stuff but this caught my eye
bronze pike
wait few hours?
icy onyx
¯_(ツ)_/¯
icy onyx
if i knew id tell you im thinking its being nuked
bronze pike
lore reason for island change?
icy onyx
like i said if i knew id tell you
valid wing
Just have to wait and see
ember flame
yepparino
calm fable
rustic knoll
Why would the game be getting a name change?
rustic knoll
Yeah, no
eternal tide
I would assume it would be something like
The Isle: Carnage comes calling
or something
ember flame
The carnage...
eternal tide
Lets think this over.
ember flame
k
eternal tide
We're aware that Magnatyrannus is indeed Primal Rex, or at least a very close derivative
we also know from the don's stream
about the textures
ember flame
Magna B-443
eternal tide
Correct.
ember flame
yep
eternal tide
Same animal, different game.
ember flame
Genesis boi
eternal tide
But now the two properties are merging.
To represent the unition of multiple developers and multiple visions, the title of the game is possibly altered
With the inclusion of Pteranodon on the way, the Primal Carnage OG roster (before DLC) will all be playable in the game: Dilophosaurus, "Novaraptor" (Being utahraptor), Tyrannosaurus, Carnotaurus, and Pteranodon
We know magnatyrannus is Primal Rex
halcyon stirrup
Primal Carnage: The Isle
atomic parrot
Tbh I really hope the Isle doesn’t end up like the dead wreck that Primal Carnage became.
soft elm
I really hope something new wil be added very soon.
blissful plume
Didn't dondi said he was going to name the isle something else. From what I remember from the old streams, it was something along the with ark but Ark survival evolved came out and ruined it. Am saying this because if the tweet means what I think it means, it means that the island is something like a conservation for the dinosaurs.
I'll see if I can find this clip but I remember that dondi had another title in mind.
ember flame
I think he is going to rename it to Hope or something like that
blissful plume
Am not saying the game name should be changes but am just saying with what the name of game may have been and the name of v3 may mean something more
paper herald
I’m very curious about what v3 will he called
Though we all know dondi and his love of teasers, we may not see anything for weeks
carmine marsh
ember flame
damm
ember flame
jump boi
mighty abyss
Well, the hypos are larger so it'd make sense that they couldn't jump
sleek temple
id say remove the spikes off alpha carno and that be an ok type M
mighty abyss
Have you ever seen an elephant jump
sleek temple
never
mighty abyss
Precisely
sleek temple
but dat carno can jump
atomic parrot
Carno isn’t ready build like an elephant though, it has long back legs and no real front weight asides its head.
paper herald
I’m actually starting to thing the whole V3 stuff is just an April fools joke, and dondi saying it isn’t is part of the joke
dusk axle
Whats PCs alpha Carno?
mighty abyss
this boy
icy onyx
still remenber chuking grenades and sawing one of those bastards
dusk axle
so its a carno with bigger horns and spikes all over the back?
ember flame
It can sorta hop
keen jasper
Has anyone turned the supposed mountain range into a sound file and figured out what it says
..or figured anything out
meager dome
Are there any theories of the giant spino skeleton in titan lake? I no clipped in the floor and had a look at it sideways on. Real shame its not like fully rendered or modeled because the front end looks like a skull.
gilded terrace
Did you happen to get any pictures from that?
slow delta
Mountain range?
placid harness
Prepare for potential for an april fool's joke that will get people seriously speculating
broken grotto
or prepare for a serious lore dump but that will be taken as a april fools joke
mellow parrot
@meager dome scroll up a bit, you can find stuff we talked about concerning the skeleton
twin vale
the thing was added as a landmark to help players find their way, but it ended up underwater when the new lake was added so doesn't really work in that regard anymore. unsure about its future.
meager dome
@gilded terrace i did. Also thanks for the info guys c:
bleak shore
@keen jasper thats actually a rerally good idea
anyone have the skills to get on this/
icy onyx
https://twitter.com/theisleofficial/status/1112180574112759813 whats this all about? people
in the comments said it looks like a soundwave ;00
carmine marsh
well
i already posted it all in #401464048610312195 but i might aswell post it here aswell
from what @icy onyx has posted we can tell the middle area of the teased "image" is current v3
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562333060868341780/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562332547170959410/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562335858078777344/unknown.png
don has said don't worry about v3 at all, aswell as the "enjoy the last few hours of saying v3".
it's pretty obvious v3 is being removed/changed.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562332641161117726/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562332689852661860/unknown.png
icy onyx
oh sorr y!!
carmine marsh
here's what i'm thinking.
as we can see the middle area of the "teased image" looks very similar to current v3.
i'm thinking we're getting a new map, but part of said new map is just current v3, the new areas could be buit
off v3.
all together this makes a lot of sense, don spoke about redwoods the other day, he also hinted at possibly having more new and unique biomes.
this is one way i could see us getting new biomes without ruining how current v3 looks.
something else we have found is this, what looks like a mountain by itself in pretty flat terrain, looks like a
possible volcano to me.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/445836743795539989/562338222148157483/unknown.png
icy onyx
didnt look there
carmine marsh
there's also this, slouping believes this to be a mesa of sorts.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562339243381358719/unknown.png
slouping has also found this, they believe it to be a swamp or savannah because of the lack of releif.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562338640169140244/unknown.png
icy onyx
Continent hype!!!!!!!!!!
carmine marsh
and when you look at this twitch clip.. it's all starting to add up.
https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/AmazingSpookyWalletTheTarFu
as i have said we could be very wrong about this, and we most likely am wrong about this.
however it does all add up, or rather most of it does.
the one thing i don't get so far is the "hope"
i don't really understand where it fits in.
the sad thing is i have a lot more
i just don't want to clog up #isle-lore-theories with all this stuff
icy onyx
here's my take, @carmine marsh :
the island is near a desertic lattitude, like 30° (cancer tropic or whetever) so there's a constant bubble of hot air on the south of the island, so the mesa
when the volcano erupts, ashes can't go south because of the bubble that pushes them northward
So, the island would look basically like the Galapageos archipel, but the island has something the Galapageos don't have, see the mountains in the current v3? how they are placed?
well imagine the ashes fall northward, so you have a rich soil, but then those 4 mountain ranges block clouds inside, which allows for plants because of water and volcano ashes, which are god tier soil for nutrients
then you go more northward, and then you don't have much water beside what can flow from the high elevation mountain ranges, giving swamp and where there's not much water, you still have fertile soil, and that's where you get plains and stuff
sorry, i didnt check #401464048610312195 for this, ;v; but this is very intresting
keep in mind that sequoia still present today are found exlusively in ONE stop in California, which is an enclave, you guessed it, between mountain ranges where clouds are blocked by said mountains
icy onyx
and since you're still near the 30° lattitude, so it's hot, but yhe cool air is stuck by the mountains, you get dry plains of herbs unless you have the water for swamps
carmine marsh
i hope you don't mind slouping but i'm going to copy paste everything you just said into my notes
icy onyx
I'm probably overthinking this but I'll be DAMMED if it doesn't fits
gloomy olive
icy onyx
and yeah, go ahead, just don't forget to say I said it all
carmine marsh
don't worry i have, i'm trying to remove all the tags i added though so you only get tagged once whenever i post it all.
replace them all with "slouping" and not "@ slouping"
icy onyx
last year
around... summer
I was there when it was streamed
it was definitely after june
icy onyx
I don't remember when
but I know that's the kind of place spino and deino are supposed to be in
keen jasper
Maybe they've been working on that map or some shit
keen jasper
If this doesn't lead to a new map my fuckin brains are gonna explode
icy onyx
if the map is going to be bigger than v3?
atomic parrot
Oof I hope not
icy onyx
there was a stram where Dondi was experimenting with volcanos
keen jasper
I hope not 
icy onyx
kinda same, v3 is alrdy pretty big
atomic parrot
Unless the server cap is increased lol
icy onyx
that's where we found that dryo was fall distance god
atomic parrot
It’s hard enough o find people on V3 in the first place and many areas are barren of people XD.
icy onyx
idk maybe. but i wouldnt mind maybe a biiiiit tinier than v3.
carmine marsh
it has to be bigger than v3
HAS to be
well
i already posted it all in #401464048610312195 but i might aswell post it here aswell
from what @icy onyx has posted we can tell the middle area of the teased "image" is current v3
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562333060868341780/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562332547170959410/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562335858078777344/unknown.png
icy onyx
if it's smaller it'll look weird af to play on
for a moment I though tit was dondi enacting judgement and roasting on me
it's ok
yee
carmine marsh
ok i have everything down in some text docs now
carmine marsh
100%
i really think i was right with that being a volcano
and slouping was right about everything else
because it fits together
severe lark
Left side has to be some kind of flat lands area
carmine marsh
with that clip aswell
icy onyx
i saw there was once a v4? was that one bigger oooor?
amber hedge
Where the fence is right?
carmine marsh
it all fits together
it's almost perfect but
here's the thing i'm thinking of
the twitter post might just be the new logo for the game
severe lark
Could be, but you'd think the island would matchup with v3
So perhaps its both, New logo and a map extension
carmine marsh
amber hedge
It might, I though a dev or a steamer said that the fence was to keep people out of unfinished areas
spare rivet
Dinosauriac did yes
amber hedge
And a part of the fencing is bent towards the top on the inside. That kind of fencing is only used to keep things from climbing out
thorn robin
is it audio?
carmine marsh
so i'm thinking it could also be some audio
the only thing is
everything else
what don said about b3
v3*
the clip of the floodplains
the way v3 fits into the twitter post
the placement of the "volcano"
carmine marsh
it just fits together too perfectly
icy onyx
I think we'll end up like overwatch cuckboi going crazy by thinking this one could be a sound but...
I'm curious
carmine marsh
i remember them doing stuff like this all the time, did they ever do anything with audio?
amber hedge
Not that I know of,
icy onyx
nah they messed up somewhere
amber hedge
But it is a possibliity
icy onyx
and blizzard went "jesus, why did we give this to spergs like them?"
carmine marsh
if anybody knows someone who can help us with this
icy onyx
but
carmine marsh
it's @slow delta
carmine marsh
the other stuff does fit together perfectly though
icy onyx
so know what it sounds like
icy onyx
if the relief of V3 had some relevancy to audio
carmine marsh
came out at the same time as don talking about v3
icy onyx
like the twitter edit
I'd lose my sides
ALRIGHT PEOPLE
I have no knowledge of HOW to make that thing translated into Audio, but if someone can, please do and report what you found
I'm not convinced it'd hold any useful info, but I'm curious and if it does hold something, better try than let it slip out of our grasp
amber hedge
It's always good to at least try
quasi brook
@ earlier theories, while a volcano would be interesting, typically realistic volcanoes don't have sharp peaks like that; the pressure build up usually means they blow off their tops, leaving plateaus, not sharp tips
So its silhouette would be more flat at the top of the rise than a sharp peak
amber hedge
It is true
icy onyx
they definitively can be
icy onyx
amber hedge
It might just be a shadow, maybe theres a installation to track the volcanic activity maybe
icy onyx
ya know, maybe because it... hasn't exploded... yet
icy onyx
too big to be a manmade structure
amber hedge
Before a build up, that means the island is still practically in its infancy
icy onyx
or that it's moving north
amber hedge
And volcanic soil is by far the richest, making plant life boom in short periods
icy onyx
and the volcano's new heat point is new
because other mountain ranges could be the result of a bigger volcano
then it'd have crumbled onto itself
giving the 3 mountains we have
usually, you'll see several islands appear because the tectonic plaque is moving and the heat point isn't, so you have several islands but only one volcano, but here, the island is so large, the heat point is still on a land mass
at least on this
tell me if it makes sense
carmine marsh
it's making sense
icy onyx
and the new heat point and future volcano is forming
icy onyx
yeah but if the volcano collapsed, and it does happen
icy onyx
I know
carmine marsh
well we don't know that for sure @eternal tide
the only thing attached to the image was "hope"
but here's another thing we haven't figured out yet
icy onyx
well, having the sound would help tbh
icy onyx
maybe also the island itself is "hope"
carmine marsh
icy onyx
yeah but that the one you have looks either like
V4
or
proto V3
probably V4, witht he volcano in the middle
the new one looks like V3 in the center and extended on the sides
and someone on twitter did this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/562348436993736715/unknown.png
which looks like a sound in a music software
mighty abyss
I did something with that but uh
icy onyx
but?
mighty abyss
it doesn't really sound like anything
icy onyx
what does it sound like? the closest?
mighty abyss
gimme another moment and I'll fiddle with the audio to make it sound more...reasonable
icy onyx
it's earrape, isn't it?
mighty abyss
sound like currently? uh... very distorted
icy onyx
try to slow it down or speed it up
keen jasper
Yeah thats what I figured. Its not an audio file
icy onyx
and keep going if it sounds better at one point
keen jasper
Thats not what was intended I'm betting
icy onyx
we're never too sure
icy onyx
if it really has nothing of value, then it's just the island's relief
mighty abyss
I'm just fiddling around with audio/image programs and changing the filetype
keen jasper
ya
mighty abyss
this is probably going to end up the same way that part of the Sombra ARG did when people tried to create an audio file from the skybox lol
keen jasper
lul
carmine marsh
this is what i got from it, ear rape warning.
thorn robin
ouch
carmine marsh
i gave you a warning
icy onyx
or drop it
carmine marsh
it's looking like it's going the be a massive map extension
icy onyx
because so far the "it's a map extention" is the best we got
carmine marsh
or once again
mighty abyss
Yeah that's what I got
carmine marsh
it's something so simple like a new logo
icy onyx
okay well, it' sjsut map relief
mighty abyss
I didn't get the high pitched vibration sounds but the deep part is there
sudden prawn
It won’t be a new logo
mighty abyss
thorn robin
It sounds like the buzzing sound when you first load the game
amber hedge
It sort of does
hasty latch
It sounds just like my Mother.
sudden prawn
hasty latch
Could be a Tribal language however.
carmine marsh
to what?
icy onyx
the sound
amber hedge
Some parts kind of reminds me of a clicking sound like dolphins in a way
hasty latch
Somebody play it backwards and hope it sounds different!
icy onyx
to the sound when you launch the game
hasty latch
Could be the new Isle soundtrack
mighty abyss
note to self: do not turn an mp4 into an mp3 then import it into audacity
carmine marsh
alrighty
keen jasper
ya
icy onyx
we have a bunch of stuff about it
carmine marsh
i have it all down in a document
we still have no clue what the "hope" is though
could be the map name as you suggested
but.. i don't know
if it's a map, it' going to be hufe
huge*
twice the size of v3
carmine marsh
thenyaw
icy onyx
make your own when the dev kit is out
hasty latch
Key part of that sentence. "when the dev kit is out"
mighty abyss
the
icy onyx
new stuff?
carmine marsh
amber hedge
Pffff, seems like dondi
carmine marsh
that came from dons discord
granted, i could be taking this out of context.
but what i get from that is don was working on a river
ofc he could have been editing current v3 again
like he did with the new rock assets
he also could have been starting on a new area
icy onyx
should have seen him realize he'd have to do the jigglebones when the gore system will be out
icy onyx
he had a micro crisis
carmine marsh
"i just realized i don't want to work on this game anymore"
high heath
My question is, how are they keeping the fliers to the island?
amber hedge
He says things like that, but works through it to keep the game up and the people happy.
carmine marsh
everything will have a tracking implant
carmine marsh
maybe the tracking implant can double as way to eh.. keep the dinosaurs where you want
icy onyx
and there's a reason why we don't see eagles go across the pacific and whatnot
high heath
What's stopping the Pteranodon or Quetzalcoatlus from leaving to closer islands?
carmine marsh
via electric shocks or something
amber hedge
Some islands when born can disappear
icy onyx
but no place to land in the middle of the sea
amber hedge
Some fall apart after a while
amber hedge
And seeing as they are on an isolated island, they simply should have no area to land and rest. They possibly have no idea how to catch food either or drink the salt water
The water was diffirent back then, more than it is now.
carmine marsh
the game is set in present day.
thorn robin
Small chance that "Hope" could be a new strain or even a boss kindof thing? Tbh im just thinking off the top of my head
amber hedge
And the life forma in it, they lives 100 million years ago. Evolution has become more efficient
carmine marsh
i doubt it
don posted a clip of eh
let me grab it
posted that at the same time as the v3 talk
and the twitter post
carmine marsh
inb4 isle is set in the starwars universe
amber hedge
Lol
thorn robin
lmao
carmine marsh
back to the hope thing, with the that clip.. i ain't to sure what he means by it
i'm sure we will know soon enough
but it's driving me crazy
icy onyx
well, the clip was about finding a way to destroy the death star
amber hedge
At this point the dev's are being pretty secretive about the upcoming stuff. We will have to wait and see. Patience always prevails
carmine marsh
that's true but
icy onyx
and I know them
carmine marsh
everyone in this discord knows
icy onyx
makes me more salty than your average trike player
mighty abyss
I believe the PC explanation for the fliers not leaving the island/archapelligo/wherever Phoenix was stationed, was that they removed the picnofibres from their body & wings so they wouldn't be able to complete long-distance flight
gleaming bay
Or they just die when leaving
amber hedge
So kind of similar to clipping a parrots flight feathers
They are still able to fly but not for long distances
icy onyx
that or it's just tha tit's far away
I mean they probably need more food than an albatros
and may be less effective
keen jasper
hrmm
icy onyx
so they can't fly for as long, which prevents them to get to mainland
and because why go outside when you have already an island
amber hedge
That also has prey you know how to hunt, and fresh water
slow delta
Interesting stuff
edgy pike
Quetz/Alfie's arm muscles were reduced in size as well
Dude was ripped then they had to do him like that
mighty abyss
TBH after some fiddling it sounds like a person talking/screaming too but that's just because your brain looks for familiarities where there may be none
ember flame
I think it was a person
plush oasis
cinder hound
While it hasn't been confirmed, it is very likely.
timber bison
not really, just dondi worked on Primal Carnage and used some asset he did for the game in The Isle
grim snow
I've heard they are, because of the fight between AE and Phoenix coorperation.
If so I know the source of the magnatyrannus, in a loading screen, it was in a small paper in the corner of the screen with 'B-443 and B-442' written on it. B-442 and 443 might be two magnatyrannus from Phoenix coorperation. If you look at the magna, and the rex in PCE looks EXACTLY like the Magnatyrannus. AE probably stole assets from Phoenix
mellow parrot
Originally don wanted the two to cross, but the owner/old boss of Don's of primal Carnage wasn't taking any deals. Since then don had been denying any connections until his tweet about #carnageiscoming
@grim snow
grim snow
ah ok
icy onyx
@carmine marsh anything new?
icy onyx
probably what the island means in the lore
because of what it has or what is supposed to happen on it
icy onyx
btw, when was the whole "40 hours" said?
carmine marsh
i'm not sure what you mean
icy onyx
what day and hour
carmine marsh
i still have no clue what you mean
icy onyx
ah nvm
it's been more than 48 hours since Don said we didn' thave much time left to enjoy V3, right?
carmine marsh
"few hours" means few months
icy onyx
regal locust
Why’re you surprised?
icy onyx
Still too much hope
spice solar
Anyone else remember when Dondi talked about the nightmarish plants?
foggy adder
Like, the plant strains in redwood forest?
regal locust
Who said they were in the redwoods?
carmine marsh
one of them is very similar to a redwood tree
so chances are
that one will be found in the redwood forest
spice solar
Has Dondi talked about how to get strains? Are they just random or can you get them somehow?
carmine marsh
not too sure about the other one
foggy adder
I just remember an Anthomnia video where he talked about these plant strains.
regal locust
No-one has said anything about how to get a strain, aside from Don accidentally mentioning you grow into them.
That doesn’t mean that you just grow into them.
I’m assuming there’s prerequisites, however, I’m simply saying that’s what was said.
@foggy adder Don’t use Anthomia’s vids as a source. He only mentioned that the “redwoods test” was a success.
We don’t know if that means they’re located in the redwoods or if he’s just talking about something code wise.
foggy adder
Alrighty, was just bringing it up cause it was mentioned.
regal locust
👍 No worries.
foggy adder
It’s also been a long time since I’ve seen that video
So idfk what is was about anymore
regal locust
Truth be told I’ve done the same thing plenty of times. After afew months of three AM witch hunts you finally have stuff drilled into your head y’know?
After that I’ve just been super active on reminding people about information. Just giving people a nudge here ‘n there.
tight isle
I think “Hope” might be a new map^^ especially with Dondi saying that we didn’t have much time left to enjoy v3
But idk
maybe we will be getting a v4 after the recode but idk
carmine marsh
@tight isle i doubt we will get v4 back
i also don't think they would just throw away v3 after all the work that has been put into it.
which is why i believe everything me and slouping posted earlier has a good chance of being true
everything is pointing to it.
ofc we could be wrong but i don't see them throwing away so much work
junior sun
Dondi said "Last few hours of CALLING it V3", not the last few hours OF V3.....
carmine marsh
check everything else
here let me post everything
don has said don't worry about v3 at all, aswell as the "enjoy the last few hours of saying v3".
it's pretty obvious v3 is being removed/changed.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562332641161117726/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562332689852661860/unknown.png
there's the extra don v3 stuff
junior sun
RIght, I think it's just being renamed and optimized.
carmine marsh
let's just say i have a lot of notes
from what @icy onyx has posted we can tell the middle area of the teased "image" is current v3
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562333060868341780/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562332547170959410/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/562335858078777344/unknown.png
sorry slouping i forgot to remove that tag
i have more stuff
pointing at a new map
but i don't want to clog up this channel so if you want more info pm me
rustic knoll
Reminder that this channel is for The Isle's lore and theories. Read the channel description.
icy onyx
icy onyx
remove the @ in your doc, Duck, it'll prevent me to think there's been an anonuncement or something
icy onyx
what if the some dinos could pick up their young, to quickly move them?
like some could pick them up like with there mouths, or some with there arms, something like that
magic cairn
might want to try #general-feedback-discussion with that skull
icy onyx
oof sounds good sorry bout it