isle-lore-theories

[snow jasper]

Seeing how many people who have reached out to pet a, or take selfies with predatory animals or just get out the car in one of those safari parks, it would not surprise me

[rough hollow]

Probably the Sarah Harding of the group.

[plush widget]

Exactly, they ain't human

[snow jasper]

Yeah, if Gen 2's had some super "human" intelligence, it would be an insult to the fiction to give it to the average player

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

[hexed forge]

this is true

[rough hollow]

Wrong channel buddy.

[acoustic osprey]

*It really is *

and proper foley artists have a wonderful mind on what object best lies to the audience about its sound

[fast forge]

@acoustic osprey

have you checked it?

[acoustic osprey]

oh yes

sadly, it was the first thing i checked when HT dropped...

[fast forge]

makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1491941912624496680/20251227_223226.gif

[iron anchor]

whoever banned that person, i think they mightve gotten hacked. could maybe let them know

[rigid tartan]

They don’t and if they’re hacked it won’t be the owner you message but the hacker. That just opens you up to being hacked too.

[iron anchor]

you can’t get hacked just from talking, but i just remembered now that you get a notification when you’re banned

i’m assuming in that case it was just someone who got in their account. i had that happen once and it was nice when people mentioned it, we were both using the same account at the same time

[elder sable]

https://tenor.com/view/ahem-shit-loser-seriously-gif-5731140

[fast forge]

<@&933486433342222376>

[acoustic osprey]

its a bit sad

not too sure if the admins ban or kick
But some of the new 'hacked' things are insane

my brother randomly got hacked, didn't even click a link
the only issue is that he didn't have 2FA...

but still. Crazy.

[lethal moat]

Wonder if we’ll get dome stuff soon

[slow idol]

Pachy has a dome

Like a middle aged man

[acoustic osprey]

true true!!!

[acoustic osprey]

hoping that Dome work stuff is just the tip of the ice berg

hope it all comes in one solid update

imagine our first strain is arborburst at the dome....

[twin vortex]

i thought redwoods would be dome update, but i guess not 🤷‍♂️

wonder what the point of the domes will be if not a biosphere

[acoustic osprey]

strain plants....

specificially arborburst would be sick

[pine rose]

Facts

I should ping you whenever my group is talking about lore, so you can join in

[acoustic osprey]

i'm mostly free to always fact check :))

[fast forge]

And I'm always free to mostly fact check

[acoustic osprey]

nuh uh!

[tribal bobcat]

Sry.. but this image is too funny lol

[marble fossil]

A question, the dino-human hybrids like Mastermind, Colossus, Reaper, etc... do we know if they are carnivores, herbivore or omnivores?

Is it also known how big they can become, compared to the dinosaurs and if they would be able to actually kill something, like a T-rex or Sauropod.

[compact harness]

is the lagg fixed yet?

[torpid roost]

Are they even cannon now?

In evrima lore

[marble fossil]

I dunno, that's just what I read in the document

only about week and a half old in this game now 😛

[torpid roost]

I like that you got in to lore that fast

[marble fossil]

well, I enjoy games for their story and world... playing final fantasy games helps kick that crappy "play to kill/troll" COD mindset out over time, with it's mountains of text.

[lethal moat]

Those are more strain humanoids than dino-human hybrids I think

[marble fossil]

🤔 I see... it thought they were human-hybrids, because it sounds like the corporation that runs this whole experiment, disposes of human workers, by putting them into the experiment. I would imagine... considering how barbaric humans and in particular corporations can be... that creating human-dinosaur hybrids wouldn't be a stretch, similar in the Final Fantasy world, where they mixed "Mako" planetary gasses with human soldiers to create controllable monsters.

[lethal moat]

I personally think they're gen 1s involved in strain research, those that reveal what they're not supposed to are relocated to tartarus and have their lineage displaced

[marble fossil]

mmmm I see.

But how did they gain their humanoid form? by that picture you posted. It they all seem to be standing as humans stand. I know apes Can stand, but their primary movement is hunched, using their arms to move, etc... only humans maintain this stance to move around the world.

[lethal moat]

AE is not evil for the sake of being evil, there's a very morally grey balance for the sake of advancement and profit

[lethal moat]

You can sort of do what you want with it when you can make your own creatures, similar with gen 2 I feel

[marble fossil]

well... I would say that is Orderly Evil. The pursuit of profit and advancement, at the cost of life, is no different than nobles (or nations) going to war for profit and power.

[lethal moat]

It's the human condition, it's easy to point and say something is evil if you don't like it, even if long term the results might well be worth it

[marble fossil]

Well, I'm not trying to change or create anything, I'm just interested in what the creators here make 🤣 excuse my interest... i know it sounds combative or competitive, but it's not.

[lethal moat]

No you're fine, you're a bit new and it's good to try and fill in the gaps of what you don't know

[marble fossil]

this is very true.

[marble fossil]

exactly!

[lethal moat]

This is a fun thing that I hope is still relevant

[marble fossil]

I'm sure it's a very long way to be put in the game (if it ever makes it in). Visions and plans do change over time... i'm sure they have much work already with the dinosaurs, maps and such... but the concept of these other-worldly looking strain creatures is fascinating...

[marble fossil]

🤣

[lethal moat]

There's reasons for everything

[rough hollow]

Guarantee Don has a novel level document at this point.

Just scribbles with some various documents explaining the more in-depth stuff.

[lethal moat]

https://klipy.com/gifs/you-see-it-is--k01KQAM7TPEV6RX66Z3MX78YTKK

[rough hollow]

Literally what I was thinking of.

Show us the whiteboard, Don. I know for a fact you have one. Either that or a wall covered in post-it notes.

[lethal moat]

I remember that time he took a screenshot of the headlines of his notes and we spent 6 months debating over it lol

[rough hollow]

I wasn't informed of this.

[lethal moat]

https://klipy.com/gifs/miles-morales-spider-man-3--k01KQAMDD5RMKCCKGDE2H9F2MM9

This was over 2 years ago at this point, jesus

[pseudo fable]

Obsidian works great with the canvas.

[lethal moat]

Howdy Don, hope you're doing well

[rough hollow]

Oh wait yeah. I remember seeing this.

[pseudo fable]

A tremendous amount of stuff no one really cared about.

Meyer Curve nonwithstanding. That read well to most.

[lethal moat]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lilo-and-stitch-head-bang--k01KQAMFWFKWM0WXFT9KS024E4X

Life got busy tbh, I haven't sat down and theorized in a long ass time

I have like, 2 weeks of absolutely no plans after finals, maybe I'll figure something out then

[pseudo fable]

No I don't mean the community didn't care. I meant the people I let sift through my rough drafts.

[lethal moat]

Ohhh, neato

[rough hollow]

I've been filling in the gaps with my own renditions of things. Like the N-Carno Glance Sheet you saw, Don.
I can't wait to see the official versions of said creatures.

[lethal moat]

I'm excited to see stuff as well

[rough hollow]

Audibly gasped when I saw Hades.

[lethal moat]

I'm really excited for human stuff, and I'm hoping we get lots of lore with them

[pseudo fable]

What where

[lethal moat]

We need to go through the map and see if we can find another pattern with the broken fences and buildings again, a lot has changed since we last saw it

[lethal moat]

Devblog, assuming hades is hyper carno

[rough hollow]

DevBlog #66.

[civic pollen]

lore search lore search

[rough hollow]

Just a little guy.

[upper escarp]

beautiful

[rough hollow]

Idk why I took a screenshot, I saved the gif.

He really hates the void he's stuck in.

[lethal moat]

It would make sense for hades, zeus, and posiedon entrances to be hyperendocrin containment areas I think

[upper escarp]

he will break through soon enough

[rough hollow]

Is pigeon slowly getting consumed by the lore as well

Join us

[civic pollen]

always has been

[lethal moat]

Lore is cool, I miss lorecord every now and again

[rough hollow]

Acts more like an archive now. I remember you invited me to it specifically because I said Hyper instead of Hypo.

[lethal moat]

https://klipy.com/gifs/im-doing-my-part-serious--k01KQAMW4ZC2P8SZG1E1XY3QKA6

I wonder what the names of tisso/neuro animals are

A Neuro carno named Nemo or Marlin could be funny

[rough hollow]

Oml. lol

[lethal moat]

Ooo, neuro spino named medusa

Tisso rex named Arachne

[rough hollow]

I'm still a sucker for the horrific mimicry I conceptualised with my version of N-Carno.

Shit is terrifying.

[lethal moat]

Lean more into the greek mythos

[rough hollow]

Most things do recently

[lethal moat]

The first dinosaur to die to fall damage was Icarus

Trust

We need more lore, it's been a good minute

Atlas and all that was cool, but I'd like another mystery

[rough hollow]

Agreed

[lethal moat]

The terminal thing was cool, but people kinda spoiled that, which sucks

[rough hollow]

Yeah that irked me.

[lethal moat]

https://klipy.com/gifs/all-business-no-fun-double-trouble--k01KQAN5260164PJ0AG32KRN4TY

[rough hollow]

The new buildings are really neat though.

I've only gotten to have a good look at the East facility.

[lethal moat]

True, I've taken a gander at the stuff near east lake, and the smaller dock between port and delta, lots of stuff to explore and consider

[rough hollow]

I wanna find the 'monitor room' that Light found.

[lethal moat]

[rough hollow]

Every time I see one of those keypads, it makes me excited.

Especially those that grant access to armouries.

[lethal moat]

Find a PDA on a skeletal pair of legs missing the torso in a long abandoned building with some passcodes listed in the notes section

[rough hollow]

That reminded me, I need to find some hazmat models for TAF.

And also building sets in Blender.

I'd honestly much rather do that than rip them. Feels more authentic.

[rough hollow]

Ooh yes.

[lethal moat]

It's been too long

[rough hollow]

For real. When I first saw the weaponry, it took my breath away on the detail.

Specifically for the marksman rifle.

[rough hollow]

[lethal moat]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yes-oh-QX9--k01KQANHKPXKTF3GMDRG9BY6X76

[rough hollow]

Beautiful firearm.

[lethal moat]

I'd personally take a shotgun or a handgun any day over the marksman rifle, it's more difficult to use for self defense I feel

[rough hollow]

Shotgun personally for expeditions.

If I'm hunting, Marksman rifle and Handgun.

But tbh you'll be lucky to find anything.

[lethal moat]

If I'm clearing rooms, the pistol with the flashlight would probably be my go to option

Suppressed if at all possible

[rough hollow]

Suppressor would do wonders.

[lethal moat]

If I can not be heard clear across the island because I got jumped by a galli, I would greatly appreciate it

[marble fossil]

If you had to take a gun with you as a human into this island... what gun would it be?

[lethal moat]

What's the objective?

[marble fossil]

self protection, against carnivores.

and maybe other humans.

[lethal moat]

Alright, but for how long? Ammo is heavy and I want to have enough

[marble fossil]

hmmm... let's say you were stranded for 48 hours and rescue May be late.

[lethal moat]

Shotgun, bring the bandoliers, hide out in a shipping container until it's time to leave

[marble fossil]

😏 fair.

there is not really much that can stand up to a shotgun, it really is one of the best close range self defense options in terms of firearms.

[lethal moat]

Once humans release, I'd honestly probably hang out and make my base at one of the more obscure and smaller human structures instead of a massive one, just because you'll get less attention, and can still visit those bigger ones to raid them

Free real estate

[rough hollow]

I think one of the more secure places you could be is up a tree. All you'd really need to worry about is Herrera and Pteranodon. Or Quetz at the time.

[marble fossil]

a fair plan. I can expect humans to be fun in this game's scenario... but I am curious on how the hybrids will compete with all... will they be a power among equals? or will they suffer and have to hide and pick their fights...

[lethal moat]

For now

[marble fossil]

or a Sauropod, if it ever comes 😛

[rough hollow]

True and true

Camara will be a biggen

[lethal moat]

https://klipy.com/gifs/veggiesaurus-lex--k01KQAP9QZY4AB2RAC3F0NN7YSA

[marble fossil]

i mean... if your a vegetarian... and a sauropod eats you, isn't it technically a vege diet? 😛

[marble fossil]

I guess they need it to be accessible in short bursts and in-game... reading is for old people now apparently 🤣

[lethal moat]

I want more to readdd

https://klipy.com/gifs/give-me-12--k01KQAP23QM0S72C2Y0WN8Z4MHG

[marble fossil]

Perhaps the creator of this world, should have wrote a fantasy book first, or have someone doing that. Then they can make book sales and have an established lore, similar to Warcraft and Warhammer (though those still have modifications made years later.).

[tranquil flume]

Don has a 70 page document of unreleased lore. We’re just figuring out pieces of the puzzle

@acoustic osprey have you checked the secret terminal for HT?

[lethal moat]

*We're trying lol
We've been on some wild tangents

[lethal moat]

I'll give it a shot

[rough hollow]

I just want a slight inklage on Troodon.

[marble fossil]

that's decent. I guess we just need to be patient.

[lethal moat]

@tranquil flume Still the same

[tranquil flume]

Awwh

Worth the check just in case tho

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[fast forge]

great character btw

[ornate comet]

Have a hell yeah worthy last stand in highlands

[marble fossil]

I'm convinced the sky is a shield to keep us locked in... like the Hunger Games.

[lethal moat]

That’s the wall at the map limit, it’s just in gam, not canon

[marble fossil]

ah, fair enough.

[iron anchor]

its a hyperendocrine bioluminescent fungus that grows on air

i think i can get banned for not mentioning thats not true

[marble fossil]

lol

[civic pollen]

uh, i think you're fine.

[acoustic osprey]

first thing i did lol

[iron anchor]

oh really, alright thank you

yeah i thought misinformation could get you banned

[civic pollen]

sure, but there is a stark difference between saying the border of the map in the game is "a hyperendocrine bioluminescent fungus that grows on air" and just lying about the game/devs/other people etc;

[tranquil flume]

Figured you might’ve haha

[fast forge]

I also asked him this

[acoustic osprey]

Don — 04:08
A tremendous amount of stuff no one really cared about.
Meyer Curve nonwithstanding. That read well to most.

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-comfort-pikachu-caterpie-gif-17203018

[acoustic osprey]

would it even hold the same weight if, through my mighty prestige, said it was true
(joke...)

[acoustic osprey]

oh actually
slightly different

I didn't get to the actual games this time
but it appears to be using the version of goat gobbler with the broken floor tiles

which was different last time

we had the broken floor tiles then it came back to normal
now it seems its broken again

[acoustic osprey]

(its in the new building at the new facility!)

[acoustic osprey]

its one of the those just weird things in Legacy
wheres its just coming off assumption because the original dondi comment could still be inferring many meanings

[hexed forge]

is that

[acoustic osprey]

the hyper... carno...

[hexed forge]

Can it win against a pibble tho

[acoustic osprey]

no

[hexed forge]

yay

https://tenor.com/view/briankik-turn-around-hedgehog-mrbond-gif-24320492

[river marsh]

I have a sneaking feeling that Hades is the name of the Hyper carno, whenever we get lore on it.

[gaunt dawn]

I thought that was kinda what it was

[civic pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205981060194893855/1312981507920494632/ae2.gif

[lethal moat]

Might be the project or department name as well

[acoustic osprey]

its weird

#isle-lore-theories message
like Don says this, as i just sent

but then you see the bunch of "Hades" references
and it gets weird

but thats legacy lore for you

and is why i do find it a bit funny when people say "legacy lore is better and more uniform" then Evrima (generally)
which is. Yeah. Like.
no
its worse in Legacy, then in Evrima, where you have different periods in its development where things do and don't exist
for many reasons

the idea of "Hades" might be the same

[stoic hamlet]

im like 80% sure these lights outside of the dome, a bit after turning on due to the night cycle, are blinking in morse code

or im just grasping at straws

[acoustic osprey]

earlier on
it seemed like Hades might've been a Hyper Utah
or maybe the idea of HADES was just a phase that regarded some dinosaurus

AT 11:03 PM, JULY 25TH, 2017, USER 7656119803161110 INITIATED ALLFATHER PROTOCOL. MAGNATRANNUS SOLUS IS NOW ACTIVE. EXPECT NO SURVIVORS.
THE FIRST PROFILE TO REACH THE NEXT PHASE SHALL CHOOSE REPLICATION. REPLICATION IS THE COUNTER-BALANCE TO FORCE EVOLUTION OF A PROFILE. PROFILES WILL ADAPT AND OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES OR THEY WILL REMAIN OBSOLETE.
IN YOUR NEXT PHASE, POSEIDON WILL RISE FROM THE DEPTHS AND CONSUME THE WORLD.** IN YOUR FINAL PHASE, HADES WILL RISE FROM THE UNDERWORLD AND PHANTOMS WILL FILL THE SKY.**

Also HADES protocol being at 35%
Some believed maybe it was just a code that enacted control over the population by involving Hyperendocrins - some sort of contingency plan of Hypers being released. For some reason.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/442808455045185536/5675bd00e29496a47a4111a3bbb59252.png?ex=69f28002&is=69f12e82&hm=2f097eba93f3053025bd2dff2d54b1a02e0aa1ed32d47360fbc82716e1d274ff
Also this
"Clearance elevated to level 3 since Type-H ............ Incident. Code Hades-....."
(basically the Hyper Utah idea)

Then, around the middle of 2018
the Type-H Carno picture i sent

i suppose you could add on Hades Entry as well
but. Lol

[acoustic osprey]

try and get a recording, if possible!

[acoustic osprey]

@river marsh practically every Hades reference we've had
albeit, i might be missing some because i am not on my PC

[stoic hamlet]

https://youtu.be/pfeuEsXBqRk not sure how long it needs to be

wtf I set instant premier

idk how to use youtube, fudge me man

[ornate comet]

making us wait

[stoic hamlet]

im not sure if its morse code tbh, it didn't feel random but it also kind of felt repetitive

[river marsh]

Oh hell thats not confusing xD

Hades in ref to utah, carno, and possibly quetz with the comment about phantoms in the sky. But def seems more carno related potentially...hm

[acoustic osprey]

its weird

but i'll put it through some sort of morse analyser
See if it can spit out anything

[fast forge]

rumple shared a recording of this like last year, saying it might be morse

on analysis I didn't see a pattern (unlike the herrera calls in that one video, which had a very clear pattern)

but feel free to look into it, maybe it is morse now, but wasn't then

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah
I remember that

[ornate comet]

Imagine a neuro that just emits a constant stream of radiation around it

[rough hollow]

Little proof of concept thing.

The Replicator.

[near nebula]

holy peak

[civic pollen]

i love it

[crimson obsidian]

https://giphy.com/gifs/five-nights-at-freddy-freddys-horror-scary-fnaf-gwiM6deyigabedTwO1

[lethal moat]

Hell yeah, love the analog horror vibe

[frosty root]

This is actually so cool, but what are the noises after it cuts out supposed to be?

i imagine it as a huge machine walking

[rough hollow]

It's not my audio. Nor is the replicator (or my version of it) a walking, sentient piece of machinery. Think of it as more of a massive building sized FLDSMDFR from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.

I interpret the noise as either someone struggling for air, or the machine readjusting itself after basically exploding.

[frosty root]

ohhhhh thats an interesting take on the replicator

an outright building is a nice way to think of it

[rough hollow]

I envision it as something similar to the teleporters from the early Black Ops: Zombies story.

[frosty root]

peaaaak

[rough hollow]

That video is just a bit of fun. I usually do those as part of brainstorming so that I can better envision what I'm trying to portray.

The audio is taken from one of Kane Pixels' Backrooms videos.

[frosty root]

i do see you using those quite often for examples (like the horibble screams up higher in the chat)

[rough hollow]

A lot of my inspiration comes from those videos

[frosty root]

you are really talented with this lore stuff

they should hire you to work on it

[rough hollow]

I'm flattered lol

[polar bramble]

scary ladder

why did it send 2 lol

this is at port

[rough hollow]

It just really wanted you to send it

[polar bramble]

-242,621.925, 520,424.167, 20,869.015

those are the cords

[polar bramble]

guess so lol

[void canopy]

This is just a random question, but do we even know why Apollo made the dinosaurs? Were they gonna be used for a park? or maybe a bio weapon?

[timber light]

whats the climate like on gateway

[rough hollow]

Pharmaceutical reasons from what we know. There's been some illusivenes to an attempt to combat climate change. Which would potentially explain the Plant Strains. But the safest assumption would be pharmaceutical reasons.

[lethal moat]

This is as close as we’ve gotten I believehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1498746167348035655/image.png?ex=69f39923&is=69f247a3&hm=2aff3688047c66b56d5931884d5a4fa9bf5064844343685ddef377ab2e9ac438&

[rough hollow]

Yeah I was gonna reference to this.

[lethal moat]

Apollo started off with food and botany, which is worth noting I feel

[rough hollow]

Yes indeed

[void canopy]

That is actually the last thing I expected 😂. That’s really cool though

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-the-simpsons-pipe-bubbles-gif-14556539

[tardy badge]

Since Dondi introduced the redwoods, it would make sense to say that experiments with mutant DNA began on a trial basis with plants; this would even give him a reason to introduce mutant plants that could fill the stomach and diets of huge herbs.
Each patrol having a limited number of these special plants and the migration generating them randomly.

[lethal moat]

We already know there’s altered plants on the island

The redwoods being genetically modified wouldn’t be particularly surprising, especially given the climate

[fast forge]

It would be shocking to me if the redwoods weren't engineered

[snow jasper]

I think redwoods being on a warm tropical island is probably either really terrible or really good for them
I live like 30 mins from the one of the only non-native born redwoods in the world which is in the UK and that's very different from the West coast

[fast forge]

I mean maybe it's a "just a video game" kind of hand wave

[fast forge]

They like temperate climates, tropics are way too hot for them normally

[snow jasper]

I see, I wonder about their humidity preference, the UK is far more humid

[fast forge]

They LOVE humidity

The only reason they can grow to record sizes in their native range is because coastal fog increases the humidity drastically, and allows redwoods to absorb water through their leaves. In this way they don't have to draw water all the way from the ground level, which gets harder and harder the taller the tree

But a lot of our Pacific Northwest trees do great in the UK

I've heard the tallest tree in the UK is a Doug-Fir, my own state tree

[snow jasper]

Ironically those are not native here it seems, I do love where I live though since technically the redwoods are already "old growth" after they were planted in the 1920s iirc and old growth is harder to find in the UK, let alone the US

Broadleaf Old-growths however are far superior 💪

[stoic hamlet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-14--k01KQDBFCNAHMZRVG38WVDSK8W9

I really want some more horror factors/tone in this game man

that really makes me excited lol

[polar bramble]

I wonder where it leads to

[stoic hamlet]

if it's at the port...no clue lmfao

[polar bramble]

Obv somewhere more scary but like maybe there's a hidden tunnel system

[stoic hamlet]

oh does the ladder go down, it looks like its going up

if it's going down then that is REALLY REALLY INTERESTING

[polar bramble]

I mean it could change

And go down who knows

[frozen totem]

GUTS please oh please return to me at least to some capacity

[polar bramble]

Loo

[frozen totem]

Also AE aiming to repopulate ecosystems that were harmed by animals that failed to adapt to the warming world is cool I totally forgot about that

[long onyx]

where do we even know this from theres like 0 lore ingame outside of just buildings

[lethal moat]

Mostly comments from Don

[long onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1109769361662689330/1462195642947338281/togif.gif

[rain perch]

shhh forget i said anything

[stoic hamlet]

he's got a lot of juicy lore written down (i would love to read it o.o)

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/kiwi-gif-22614141

[acoustic osprey]

was supposed to be more extended by GUTS
sadly... might not happen

which is a bummer

[kindred bobcat]

Interesting indeed

[acoustic osprey]

also to add to what was said

Don also said dinosaurs are 'unfortunate but necessary'

[polar bramble]

Tragedy

[sonic merlin]

Potato

[frozen totem]

Top 10 tragedies of isle

[polar bramble]

top 10 pinslop is the most tragest tragedy

[frozen totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860702568145354795/1367770137075122288/attachment.gif

[polar bramble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1381527501410664469/EngagingGameplayRex.gif

[frozen totem]

Please stop gif spamming in #isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

fine!!

[acoustic osprey]

theres also this, i suppose
but it doesn't truly add to that comment though

[snow jasper]

Yessssssss, but do they have the dexterity to forge a 12lb cannon loaded with roundshot 🤔
Human Superiority >>>

[lethal moat]

Troodon hours

[unborn knot]

Anyone know where I can "start" the isle lore? I really want to get into it but i'm not sure where to start lol

[fast forge]

I shoulda sent this yesterday to the person who was upset a doe killed their juvie rex

For once can we actually get a War of the Worlds adaptation that is a period piece?

They always modernize it, but I think it's a much better concept when it is set in the late 1800's

They always gotta give the machines energy shields and lasers and stuff so that it can hold up against modern weaponry, but it loses all the vibes

Gimme a WotW where you gotta escape on bicycle or horseback or carriage, where the best weapon you get is an old rifle

Give me the battle of London bridge, GOD that was cool in the book

Ok I'm done with the off topic

[snow jasper]

You can check out pinned messages and read or ask questions here

[stoic hamlet]

Using guns is gonna be such a high risk and should be like an absolute last necessity over life and death. The moment you shoot one off half the island is gonna hear it and then you'll have multiple things rapidly approach your direction lol

I cant wait for humans, exploring buildings, finding lore hints, possibly put together codes to access unreachable parts of the map

Ive been waiting so long to be a human and truly put yourself in absolute fear of dying in this game

If the devs pull it off, it will easily be a top tier horror game

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/UZtjlDiSQeY?t=67
I've been checking out this game every once in a few for a few years now

i really like the style they're going for

but
I would actually like some media based exactly off the book and its time period

would actually be very interesting

i suppose the end result will always be the same
but nonetheless would be very interesting

[fast forge]

isn't this the game to which I was responding?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

was just adding on a comment and a video 😔

[fast forge]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jude-law-young-pope-pope-smoking-the-young-pope-gif-7447535

one would hope
but like

game with hunts turns into hunting game very quickly

the hope is that they balance it
but like

how

sadly we haven't really gotten any info over 12-ish, or just 7 for evrima, years on how they're truly planning to do this

one hopes it goes well
but. Yeah

[snow jasper]

im sure it will scale with calibre

i really hope that shotguns feel like shotguns and not follow the typical fps shotgun trope

[acoustic osprey]

and just turn smaller guns into nerfs

[stoic hamlet]

completely obliterates anything in its path? lmao

[snow jasper]

Shotgun munitions are diverse, depends what we get, slugs are going to be nasty but aren't going to have that spread, buckshot will definitely hurt but its probably wasted on a rex

bear in mind, how deep you have to penetrate before you hit anything vital

[acoustic osprey]

damn

nice to see the atrium getting some love

good to know its not just the sewers
but the whole thing

very interesting

curious on if we'll have to wait for the atrium to be completed before LAB IX is put in

i like the height to this

return of the overhead watching glasses as well

spooky red room as well

[pine rose]

I love this

[civic pollen]

[scenic cairn]

yummers

[fast forge]

or red tinted glass

at my work we use a red tinted vinyl layer on the widows into the cleanroom

But it's probably just a red light

[acoustic osprey]

hard to tell

but it doesn't appear red in the darks
so probaby not

don't think we've seen properly tinted glass yet
maybe we have though. Would've been interesting though

[acoustic osprey]

definitely

i just wonder if they're holding back adding a lot more human buildings
or if they've changed their mind with putting LAB IX in

[lethal moat]

Red light typically is used for backup lights if I'm remembering correctly

[acoustic osprey]

because the last we saw of it, being a while ago now, it appeared quite done
ignoring the obvious more weathering to it, which Vis mentioned few dblogs ago

[acoustic osprey]

unless its a camera 'red room' lol
(but that would mean there shouldn't be any real outside light/glasses lol)

[tranquil flume]

Red is also a light that most animals cannot detect

[acoustic osprey]

we do have red lights elsewhere though
I do wonder if there is a choice/reason for 'having red lights' or if it just looks cool

[snow jasper]

Red light travels the shortest distance

I've ony ever seen it used for concealement during war

Which would make a pretty cool usage for humans as well, a red light flashlight alternative that isn't just a massive beam saying "Come here for free food!"

[exotic plover]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-toast-electric-timmy-shock-gif-13515072

[craggy pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[lavish rune]

Why does the first guess feel like it’s hitting a little too close to reality?

We have people that are trying to monopolize on the climate and there’s already people bringing back extinct animals. Is Don trying to tell us something? Apollo Engineering is just a fictional company, right?

[lethal moat]

It's not unrealistic

[lavish rune]

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

mmm true true

[acoustic osprey]

looking at my PC now (better monitor)
it does seem like it is just normal glass and red lights

[acoustic osprey]

talking about lights though

i REALLY hope they still plan for this more green-tint like in the concept art and some screenshots we've have of stuff

it would be awesome

talking about red lights though... (see what i did there...)

other references of red lights

both technically being GUTS related
one at the entrances (cannot remember if they're still red though in-game? Has been a while now)
and also in the Industrial/Admin Hub modules for GUTS

in the more 'maintenance' section catwalk/corridor

[ornate comet]

Seeing all these new interior screenshots makes me wonder what a hypothetical interior sanctuary would be like

[acoustic osprey]

sanctuary?

[ornate comet]

Like imagine a partially collapsed building that’s been taken over by sanctuary plants

[acoustic osprey]

ah!

@ornate comet imagine something like this
but a bit more bruised

basically fully empty/fully weathered

which we really haven't seen yet, not properly

[ornate comet]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/it-would-be-so-awesome-it-would-be-so-cool-teen-titans-go-robin-gif-14628882061081858262

in lieu of the dome getting new updates on it
i stumbled upon the old Atrium interior concept arts from the archive server

Don if you read this
do you still plan on having the green-tinted lights?

[snow jasper]

the tech is already there, its just a painstaking process of individually placing the vines and doing all the texture mapping for wear and tear

but there is the lack of rusty textures in general too

[acoustic osprey]

quite so... at least UE5 has the thing for Visual to better generate weathered textures that variate

instead of being '1:1 same weathered wall' on everything lol

[snow jasper]

i reckon there'll come a time where they purely focus on making all the human structures properly weathered and then will we finally see human strctures and interiors looking good

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-tongue-out-stare-gif-2589760412605996407

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/munchkin-attack-mean-cat-mean-cat-attack-short-cat-short-cat-attack-gif-14421555173154849620

[acoustic osprey]

thank you for another gif

[snow jasper]

anytime!

[acoustic osprey]

i do find it a tad painful
but i'm hopeful

I know this game gonna take a long time
and i don't really force myself to enjoy isle. Sometimes i feel good, sometimes i feel iffy or not good

but in the end
i do enjoy what i take out of it (a lot of it being lore)

i think i'm ok with waiting
especially with lore

[snow jasper]

yayyyyyy!!!

[acoustic osprey]

if Don can make something he can truly consider perfect for him or something he really does super enjoy
the downside being that we have to wait quite a while for Don to put it out all together, mostly

i think i can wait and do that

i suppose i already am

[snow jasper]

i would love to just know what % of what we know that already exists in Dondi's big ol' plan

[acoustic osprey]

i think in a perfect world (in my perfect world... of course, who knows if it would actually work or not)
but i think i would have it where i would be working towards putting all into a 'final product' sort of ideal

but, along the way, dropping comments on the whole products completion and/or dropping little bits of things you've made along the way

I don't think i'd show things i'd 'just done'
but probably things that were made a while ago that has had enough time to ferment and get review and feedback on it

[snow jasper]

I dont think thats entirely dissimilar to what Dondi is doing, but yeah, I too would love to just get everything in one big drop when everything else is ready

That might be what is happening to be fair, we just have videos, a few pieces of paper and humans on the map. I'd imagine Dondi would still keep a level of mystery behind what he chooses to share for us to find in-game, in order to keep the theorising part of this community alive. But I imagine there is a lot of information just sitting in some pile of notes we're going to get.

I know in particular I'd like to see some form of interactable ways of finding out information, i.e.: a running terminal/computer. Which you can use to log into and find out stuff and view things like additional trail camera footage, Incident Reports, a grid map, or even a new form of file format which can tell us information about things we barely have an understanding for at this given time. I dont know if we'll see a comeback for NPCs/Characters but also "Real-Time Documentation" where you can listen to scientists share information which tells us about the lore.

Im more than happy to wait but one thing I am fearful of is the lack of different mediums in which the lore is going to be conveyed to us in-game.

We have all these, and I would love to interact with them as a human and use them to uncover lore as opposed to going off of environmental storytelling, finding pieces of paper and discord dripfeeding.

[kindred bobcat]

connected to the red lights in the devblog?

[polar bramble]

maybe?

[acoustic osprey]

for something pretty old now
probs not

we've had a few red lights now
#isle-lore-theories message

[acoustic osprey]

one hopes

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/munchkin-attack-mean-cat-mean-cat-attack-short-cat-short-cat-attack-gif-14421555173154849620

[stoic hamlet]

I cant wait to see the entrances to the actual biome inside, that bridge concept with the rocks looks so damn cool

[stoic hamlet]

stair case of death

gosh I really do hope they drop all the human stuff at once, its gonna be so cool and fun

the game for lore exploring will truly begin

[snow jasper]

wrong channel
soon™
it will be very fat

[upper briar]

My fault gang

[frozen totem]

<@&933486433342222376>

some good deals here

[young sphinx]

Ovi is love

[quartz sundial]

i like the greenish lighting, reminds me of some areas in Dino Crisis

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[fiery galleon]

hey guys gen 1 humans died to cannibals right?

[acoustic osprey]

when you say 'humans', do you mean the monster humanoid Gen1s?

[fiery galleon]

i mean as in tribal humans

back in legacy you could choose between mercenary and tribal humans but i heard the tribal humans died to cannibals

[acoustic osprey]

ah like these guys?

[fiery galleon]

yip

[dusk ore]

ay we all hoping for humans to get machine guns and mow down trikes rexes and stegos right?

https://tenor.com/view/tawa-gif-12592035089535050267

[acoustic osprey]

ah
i'll be honest with yah

they were always in a weird thing
like they existed for a bit
and yet they didn't exist

and Don never really publicly gave proper info on why they were removed
or how they existed in the first place

[fiery galleon]

who knows they might return to evrima

[acoustic osprey]

but basically, from what we know

they existed for a tiny bit
Added as a placeholder till they make the actual "Gen1s"
which became, practically, this (#isle-lore-theories message)

[fiery galleon]

the isle pre alpha footage is quite interesting

the only humans we see in legacy

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/YXb4tF1U2Mw

[fiery galleon]

jip this

[fiery galleon]

also what even are this did Apollo try to mess with human genes or smth...

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/MwQEnZRzVLY?t=140
probably not

basically their idea was basically all unconfirmed roughly in 2018
but like. Who knows

knowing isle... anything is possible lol

[acoustic osprey]

from what we know

Began as a retaliatory product by AE as an overengineered answer to
the question of, “What if something hits AE?” ...

[fiery galleon]

oh

[fiery galleon]

are these guys the cannibals or completely different things

geez this lore is interesting

[acoustic osprey]

basically "Gen1s"

the 'idea of the cannibals' is better explain in this video #isle-lore-theories message

basically 'cannibals' is a better term for the Gen1s
even though he was referring to the 'eyeless creatures' as "cannibals"
but, Don clarified that the 'eyeless creatures' are not called "the cannibals" but have another name that will likely infer how to become the "eyeless" creature (or we just call it Unofficially "The Eyeless")

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/its-real-the-master-john-simm-david-tennant-doctor-who-gif-15900091396853323241

[fiery galleon]

the eyeless

[acoustic osprey]

crazy design though that i hope they keep for them

[fiery galleon]

cannibals will come...eventually

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/munchkin-attack-mean-cat-mean-cat-attack-short-cat-short-cat-attack-gif-14421555173154849620

[fiery galleon]

wonder how dondi plans to implement the humans hunting dinosaur thing again

if he ever plans to

[fiery galleon]

he also refers the tribals and cannibals the same thing

at around 2:48

[acoustic osprey]

(but listen to the bit right after)

[fiery galleon]

or i might just be misunderstanding

[acoustic osprey]

basically at 2:59

[fiery galleon]

kk

[acoustic osprey]

"creatures on the right are a separate entity"

[fiery galleon]

ahh

[acoustic osprey]

the famous version of this video is done by Catbug which removes that important bit at the end...

[fiery galleon]

are these supposed to be the tribals?

[fiery galleon]

well mostly lvl 1 appears to be

[acoustic osprey]

basically yeah

only thing to note is that the 'human tribals' didn't make up a majority of legacy development

[acoustic osprey]

about the red light convo from yesterday

different 'red' from the red light room

mayhaps...

[frozen totem]

I hope for more saturated lighting indoors
looks spooky

[acoustic osprey]

🙏

i need the two lights
#isle-lore-theories message

[frozen totem]

ah yes;
cubicle floor green
and
burning dungeon orange

[acoustic osprey]

the best lights

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/buh-gif-14465458220549268962

[acoustic osprey]

they're better then just boring flat white lights!

[frozen totem]

indeed

[acoustic osprey]

i need my [redacted] colour green and my tartarus orange

[frozen totem]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

but the yellowish-green really grabs my attention
it spews the most 'industrial' for me whilst still having a nice vibe

[sturdy tide]

Is there like

A full isle lore video

Describing everything that's up to date

[snow jasper]

Isaac already has some good videos on his channel, but anything else is lore
There was I think a couple other small Ytubers who have tried a little something with the lore
But for Evrima, Isaac is the guy to look towards

I dont think there is much use doing a full video for lore seeing as we haven't got a lot and we reckon there is a lot more to come

[sturdy tide]

Is the YouTubers name Issac or is it something else?

[snow jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/@Lightclaw

[sturdy tide]

Oh

Looks familiar

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-death-autobot-transformersa-gif-7326502

[sturdy tide]

Hmm I swear I've heard of you before

🤔

[acoustic osprey]

thanks...

[sturdy tide]

Strains are cool

Idk why people no like them

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[tranquil flume]

Blodshed 🗣️

[stoic hamlet]

what did I just read lmfao

[iron anchor]

my brain is too small to understand

[snow jasper]

<@&933486433342222376>

mods are slacking tut tut

wowzers, nearly 10 minutes

Bro no way somebody actually fell for it

<@&933486433342222376> we‘re getting mass casualties over here

[pine rose]

no way

[quartz sundial]

islecorders thirsty tonight 😭

somebody save us

thanky

[snow jasper]

only 18 minutes later, this is diabolical!!!

[snow jasper]

oh boy

5 people

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[fiery galleon]

what happend...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-wanna-know-george-zax-jk-simmons-goliath-s4ep4-gif-23201964

[acoustic osprey]

damn there really is a lot today though

[river marsh]

Id be curious to know how many of them havent posted in months ngl

[sturdy tide]

what happened 🤔

was there evil people around

[tribal bobcat]

People who hate lore..

[twilit jewel]

What if AE is sponsored by PepsiCo. I mean it wouldn't be cheap to make those dinos.

[snow jasper]

I think you‘re onto something

[twilit jewel]

An Isle skin with the PepsiCo logo branded onto it. 💔

[strange shell]

More likely sponsored by Cola Canth or Beipsi Java, which are canon brands in the lore

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pepsi-man-pepsi-gif-21226827

[twilit jewel]

Just said it as a joke not serious lore.

[strange shell]

Joking is what gets you down the rabbit hole of actual theories

[twilit jewel]

Guys Batman owns AE. 😱

[grand sigil]

Were biome domes ever actually a canon idea (Canon as in something the devs originally planned for the early domes and not community assumption)

[snow jasper]

Well we've had atriums/aviaries for years, and their exact purpose might've flip flopped but we've never truly known.

[grand sigil]

I think if we got them in an alternate timeline where all four domes stayed, I’d have the south one be a “swampier” swamp with more wetland foliage and artificial fog and rain, the north one be a “highlandier” highlands with redder rock, canyons and rock spires for pteras, the east one be a small temperate coniferous forest with some rocky terrain and small caverns, and perimeter be either plain jungle or redwoods

[grand sigil]

I think biome domes was wishful thinking by the community and the small domes were truly placeholders for areas that would be added later all along and were never going to have more of a purpose than that

[muted reef]

Im not gonna lie I can't for the life of me remember if perimeter is the only dome right now

It's been a long time

[strong mango]

This image has single handedly taken up more space in my mind than I would like to admit. The implications in a single image for just HOW humans will interact with the world around them, their goals, and gameplay loops-have somehow culminated into making Mecha-Quetz? I'm hooked

We're tribals officially scrapped?

[muted reef]

No

They are kind of reimagined though

[strong mango]

Ah that's my boi

[strange shell]

Perfect dental care

[tranquil flume]

The name was scrapped in favor of gen 1 and gen 2 iirc

[strong mango]

Aaaahhhh, I figured something like that happened. Thank you for the clarification 😄

[tranquil flume]

Yeee no problem

[fast forge]

eh, they took the time to model the small domes, so I figure they planned to use them at some point

[grand sigil]

theyve spent time on plenty of placeholders

[fast forge]

But map placeholders? We've seen lots of areas that are unfinished just sit as empty jungle, no need to model something so complex

I'm sure they wanted to use them, but the big structures act as obstacles that probably reduce flow between different parts of the map

Also the latest devblog mentioned challenges in giving various species a way to get into the dome without making the entrances a kill corridor. I imagine with smaller domes that would be an even more difficult challenge

[gray sleet]

cannibal reminds me of a bald xenomorph,

[stoic hamlet]

xenomorphs are already bald

[iron anchor]

sometimes things can be bald without being bald, or be balder than another bald. i know because i’ve experienced it but unfortunately i don’t have the knowledge and understanding to explain it

like my cat, he’s bald even though he’s not

[quartz sundial]

wat

[tranquil flume]

that's just genetics lol

[acoustic osprey]

is this so

[acoustic osprey]

i do think the small domes were definitely a lot more 'wishful' for the devs
but basically everything on Gateway is practically the same thought

very cool ideas and the whatnot
hopeful stuff
but will it come? Maybe

[torn monolith]

<@&933486433342222376>

[median shuttle]

are these pipes by east lake new?

[civic pollen]

new since the latest hordetest, yup. some sort of facility behind them, water treatment of somekind mayhaps.

[fast forge]

it certainly looks similar to water treatment plants I've seen irl

[lethal moat]

The one's I've seen have been a bit higher out of the water, that lake is FULL

[frozen totem]

again broski

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[dense musk]

last update today? what they added ?

[rough hollow]

Wrong channel. The Evrima update was a mistake and has been since rolled back. The Hordetest update was mainly to add the new skin system. Keep in mind that it's a WIP and isn't finished.

[late harbor]

Is there a place all the lore is posted? I checked the pinned messages but the site seems dead.

[lethal moat]

This is usually what I direct people to, there’s a bit more that’s not in here, so please ask if you have any questions https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[late harbor]

Thank you 💙

[stoic hamlet]

mmmm yessss very nice

[unborn knot]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-announcements-gif-3242271277982989996

[lethal moat]

Hell ye

[fast forge]

[civic pollen]

[bitter apex]

lore

[frozen totem]

wait shoot thats sick

[fast forge]

A random little catwalk?
Connected to nothing and suspended 60ft off the ground?

[rocky brook]

What the heck 😭😂

[snow jasper]

It wouldn't surprise me if the entire dam gets a remake, alongside the addition of whatever else is planned there

Something about the old concrete and the metal doesn't sit right with the latest concrete and metal

I think its supposed to be rust

[frozen totem]

there is definitely a new concrete texture

you can see it on a chunk sticking out of the damn with a garage door on it

[snow jasper]

5,000 metal and 5,000 concrete textures please sir

[pine rose]

look what im doing

[acoustic osprey]

Nice

[fast forge]

I feel like these terminals will be interactable in the future
Cameras?

and the one funny chair, different from the rest

[lethal moat]

Control room

[fast forge]

New dock at the dam is cool, but pretty clearly unfinished

although the offices look really good

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-jack-gif-3165229106143670324

[fast forge]

I hear a hummingbird mating display

It sounds like a running shoe squeaking on a floor

[lethal moat]

Hehehe

[fast forge]

https://youtu.be/mbJvxH2dyGU?si=wHSorBMSKTegU33g

It's really cool

It's a sound they make with their tail feathers after pulling out of a high dive

[civic pollen]

chair lore

[snow jasper]

not allowed to view in my country

https://tenor.com/view/red-red-emoji-angry-emoji-raised-fist-fist-gif-4695612956741787895

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully
now we have this habour master, the one at east dock
plus the 'terminals' at the new 'water treatment' area that looks like one of the concept arts

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1282675206896484383/Security.jpg?ex=69fbd920&is=69fa87a0&hm=3ef095f0988eb61ee050f9d8ca0f4fac2d01356de7a62d52364594594c24e3b1

[fast forge]

oh I hadn't really explored the new part of K15, I didn't realize it was like a separate little complex

[acoustic osprey]

ye

its a neat little walk
i don't think theres anything new in it

but it has the 'big RnR lodge'

i was gonna comment that that area now has more to it (that we're getting more of the gateway leak map)
but like

we technically already have that building, kinda. Just on the side rather then coming out of the dam
but now theres two of them. Just the new one being a sort of dock

curious on the logistics of that dock/port though

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-star-wars-viceroy-jedi-sith-gif-11488732

[stoic hamlet]

AE U331

no clue what it means but its close to the bridge going up to redwoods from WA

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sith-old-reference-star-wars-lord-vader-gif-17685376920176044949

[stoic hamlet]

y e s

[acoustic osprey]

strange though
its always been U331

i don't think we've gotten anything similar

[stoic hamlet]

im just coping at this point

I want more hints and human lore

[acoustic osprey]

lol

soon ...

this is our life

i think i have accepted it
i live my life. Then when stuff happens, whenever it happens, it'll happen
but likely not any time soon

we are not the priority. We're just an endgoal.

[pine rose]

@acoustic osprey do you know what this is called

[acoustic osprey]

the small DTA

the big DTA (not in-game) is for Strains + Sauropods

[pine rose]

ya

ive seen that one, it big

[acoustic osprey]

(Dinosaur Transport Area)

[pine rose]

it looks like its not like a modular build, which is why I want it LMAO

[pine rose]

cheers

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[pine rose]

DOME!

[acoustic osprey]

looks a bit weird

[pine rose]

couldnt finish top

it broke. and sides are a lil broken

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[royal mango]

X-Files theme

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/munchkin-attack-mean-cat-mean-cat-attack-short-cat-short-cat-attack-gif-14421555173154849620

[pine rose]

I cannot touch anymore. its 5gb just for that

if you have it in a background or something it would work fine

[torpid roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1371257494176923770/1378780378957086780/togif.gif

[gaunt dawn]

Where’s the lore

[median shuttle]

I eated it

[snow jasper]

gahh i want to see the roof

im convinced the roof opens up

[alpine lynx]

its that same mysterious light thing again... @acoustic osprey

aliens!!!

[fallow harbor]

allosaurus

[fallow harbor]

the flash

[ionic fog]

If you fly up there as a ptera you can see extremely large hydraulic pistons, so easy bet

They’re roughly modelled, since when would you ever see them other than as a bird, but they are present

[fast forge]

I'm not sure if they are pistons or just a clamp system

Like I think they are tension cables

[ionic fog]

Hmm, they just look so piston like to me, a larger outer diameter, hinged looking mount point, inner diameter attached to what is maybe the roof hatch #isle-lore-theories message

Until they get some texture to them, they are pretty generic greebles though

At it’s rest angle though, it certainly does look like it would be a strain to pull them open

[storm onyx]

is it based off real life?

[acoustic osprey]

not really

[pine rose]

I dunno

[pine rose]

elite ball trunk

[storm onyx]

they should build it in real life

and make it like a beach so that folks who cant go to the beach can go to the beach

[snow jasper]

I dont even think a glass structure on that scale is even possible

as cool as it looks, and all costs aside, i think it would collapse under is own weight

[acoustic osprey]

you're just jealous

[strange shell]

That's what they said about the cathedrals !

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-cat-stupid-orange-kitty-stupid-cat-orange-gif-12394041002490789694

[tulip coral]

https://tenor.com/view/munchkin-attack-mean-cat-mean-cat-attack-short-cat-short-cat-attack-gif-14421555173154849620

[snow jasper]

:(

[acoustic osprey]

sorry

[sand isle]

Must have been a night fury

[sturdy tide]

bleh bleh bleh

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-kitty-nubcat-gSLeUb9n1kvO2tgFUa

oops wrong channel

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1491957733216227479/caption.gif

[quartz sundial]

we love actual ingame documents

[acoustic osprey]

soon soon...

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/winterz-soon-gif-19096204

[ornate comet]

Extras menu opens to collected documents. Info about each species is discovered by killing, getting killed by, encountering, grouping with them, getting nested in, nesting as, reaching 100%. Alternatively the species documents can be found in the map and will fill out the entire section for its species

Thoughts

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
#isle-lore-theories message

🫠

it would be incredibly awesome

heck
even embedding the EXTRAs tab as the terminal

renaming it maybe something more lore-themed?

but i think having documents in-game then being 'unlocked' into the terminal

not just the glance sheet species documents as well, but all

unless Dondi wants to do some crazy things
where we have different or multiple ways to 'get' a document/video/lore-object/etc in-game

like maybe a very 'cryptic' or unique document can only be obtained through a bit of a 'lore hunt' mission
where you might have to type in a certain strand of code

how do you get that code?
You found another document in-game at K15 (lets say)
but how did you find that document?
either you found it by chance or... maybe a Lore Video posted on YouTube was filmed at K15 and the description told us (crypitcally) to go there. Or some sort of 'external push' to go to K15

[pine rose]

I can’t wait for the lore to get even more in depth

I was wanting to learn animation so I could do a short film about Apollo and stuff on blender, cause I reckon that would be cool as hell but I might just wait for a while until like I said the lore becomes more indepth and we know what the incident was or have subtle clues, because I think we don’t know what it was right

It be crazy if the incident had something to do with strains being made or like going rouge or something like that or the replicator

[acoustic osprey]

Agreed man

[pine rose]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

Don't lol me... 😔

[pine rose]

haha

[acoustic osprey]

'The incident'

More then one my friend...

[pine rose]

I need to readup on lore again

[acoustic osprey]

If you ever make a creepy blender render still
I can always CRT it and make it feel a bit more

[acoustic osprey]

I forgive you!

But maybe worth doing it in the future

Nothing against lore as it is
But it is a bit tame at the moment

Waiting for when Don wants to put lore into the forefront of things in some way

[vapid pewter]

what happened to rhe white cannible things

[snow jasper]

replaced with Gen 1s (technically but not so technically)

[vapid pewter]

will they ever be added?

[snow jasper]

i dont think they would have worked on them if they werent going to

[vapid pewter]

damn

[acoustic osprey]

the ones with or without eyes?

the answer will change depending on what you mean, basically

long mofos without eyes or eye sockets
which basically still exist. But have an unofficial name of "The Eyeless"
and were described as a sort of Gen1.5

or..

your monsteroid humanoid fellas
which have been morphed, as Run said, as the "Gen1s"

[thin vine]

you will always be cannibal to me....!

[lethal moat]

<@&401466542140817419>

[naive crane]

[acoustic osprey]

sammy

[thin vine]

@acoustic osprey gateway is theorized to be in SE asia or somewhere relatively close, right? does that change with the updated foliage and such? iirc thats how we generally determined gateways

i didnt like that

anyway we used that to theorize on gateways location iirc

[acoustic osprey]

you could probably update this now with redwoods as well

Dark green is areas with a lot of Gateway's plants, light green areas only have a few

(vegetation, coming from JollyRaptor's document)

[thin vine]

neato

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2spy-he-could-be-any-one-of-us-gif-22141763

basically.
Its hard to tell 🫠

[tranquil flume]

climate wise so far, it honestly feels like California. just missing the desert 😂

we do have invasive eucalyptus, idk about invasive acacia

we have invasive acacia

[tulip coral]

Gateway does feel like California

Especially now that the Redwoods are on the Island

[tranquil flume]

it looks pretty close to what we have going on environmentally

[tulip coral]

Wait are you a fellow Californian?

[tranquil flume]

legit feels like a game and houseles version of california, but with a jungle lol

yah i am

[tulip coral]

Yooooo, also yeah, it’s like a California that has reclaimed itself from humanity

[tranquil flume]

mhmm

[tulip coral]

Tho idk any part of California that has acacia trees

Wait we need some Sakura Trees now

[tranquil flume]

it would be planted in residential areas for the most part

not hard for something to become invasive in the right conditions tho

[tulip coral]

Yeah true

Especially since there isn’t really anything that would eat them unlike where they are from

[tranquil flume]

tree killers are typically not a thing unless it's like strangler vines or other parasitic plants but typically the climate is what would kill of most plants species if they're not adapted for it

[tulip coral]

Oh ykw true

I didn’t think of that

Welp, later

Me tired

[acoustic osprey]

maybe AE's CEO is also from Cali
and wanted to recreate it botanically and geologically

[acoustic osprey]

no

<@&933486433342222376>

[quaint reef]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-cristiano-ronaldo-cristiano-ronaldo-dance-cristiano-ronaldo-dancing-ronaldo-dance-gif-16792312765445929035

[frigid heath]

@indigo nebula

[rigid tartan]

Dude they probably blocked you. You’re gonna get busted for spam pinging them

[rough hollow]

Let's stop the spam pinging, thank you.

[marble fossil]

since we're not waiting for "evolution" to create new dinosaurs and the corporation/biological division are doing it instead. Do you think they could expand "humanoid" and dinosaur splicing... what if they created a mega dinosaur, that even nature was like "hell naaaw...". A dinosaur that they thought they could control and limit... but it beats all estimates and grows far beyond what they wanted... a revival of the ancient titanic lifeforms, made real!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-the-amazing-digital-circus-the-amazing-digital-circus-the-amazing-digital-circus-caine-tadc-caine-gif-13807920404847121976

[snow jasper]

one day, maybe

[marble fossil]

like a Leviathan!

[river marsh]

I mean...there is the old ass Island Walker mention

[marble fossil]

I look forward to this one the most.

[tranquil flume]

So the matriarch exists. There’s fan concept done by tap and it’s basically an evolving monstrosity

This is the final form to the series

[rough hollow]

To quote Tapwing's comment underneath the post:

*"The waters have gone murky recently, but we’ve been able to keep an eye on it’s location on the ocean depth.

We let it be, till numerous unidentified bodies were reported across the oceans surface and our research ship was able to confirm the current state of the ————-.

The ————- is falling apart.

It’s back split open and thinly scabbed over. It’s shedding flesh, partially formed torsos and growing malformed limbs.

This project’s flaw has become glaringly clear. without some form of genetic off switch, this endless growth is useless. It’s body constantly trying to recreate extremities and internal structures it already has.

Thankfully, there’s a possible fix, but not for this specimen.

No, it is time to retire this ————-.

Project concluded."*

[junior wave]

its last form just looks like evolution did it dirty
how is that thing doing damage to anything

[tranquil flume]

it's dying

that's why

it's gotten that big it's starting to fall apart on itself

or that's what i interpret tap's concept notes for it

[marble fossil]

ooooo

hmmm... but it is problematic. It's uncontrolled growth, leads to it's own destruction. I wonder if they could implement something like that in the game... It would actually fit kind of well in the current system of "prime age", since everything either dies of starvation or of old age.

But it sounds like it would work well in a more... aquatic environment. It sounds more like a necrotic beast from Warframe more than anything... twisting, evolving mass of bio-engineered flesh trying to make sense of itself, but failing.

But what if it didn't... 😏 an ever evolving beast, that absorbs the flesh of it's victims. The more it consumes, the longer it lives.

[acoustic osprey]

the matriarch will still exist

but instead of it being stages
it'll be something like Kirby — eating and then taking the traits off what it ate

[marble fossil]

mmmm, interesting.

[gaunt dawn]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

quite so quite so

[gaunt dawn]

You ain’t built for this island son

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1491957733216227479/caption.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/f2e5992496f271bc0146683b1b480c32

[harsh slate]

<@&933486433342222376>

[frosty root]

what is this?

[marble fossil]

I'll admit, the Collusus thing interests me the most... I envision some kind of... t-rex vs weird dino-hybrid King Kong battle going on 🤣 I wonder what size it can reach. From it's art work, it looks.... like a huge... the fact that it can punch a Sauropod enough to hurt it really bad, or wrestle a t-rex... thing must be absolutely HUGE

it definitely looks like a carnivore... but it'd be interesting if it was an Omnivore, able to sustain itself on meat and plants.

[proper musk]

its fighting a Hypo rex, (you can tell by the back plates) too, so, its pretty darn huge,

[hollow marten]

Perhaps Apollo made the type h and all those to combat the matriarch and possibly patriarch would lend the hypos lives being more than just a by product imo

[marble fossil]

wth is with the hypo giganasaurus though... look like a t-rex that got intimate with a Yautja...

does look really cool though

[hollow marten]

That's princess they don't bite

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/the-update-is-just-right-gif-18287615594352687577

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-marge-vs-the-monorail-there-ain't-no-monorail-and-there-never-was-monorail-monorail-episode-gif-6097315117373302851

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[fathom jay]

I would love something more "solid" rather than concept art tbh

[acoustic osprey]

we have stuff that is solid

but lore is not a priority
So, thus, its just really really slow/back of the line

[fathom jay]

I am not gonna compare dark souls to the isle because that would be unfair for various reasons but I do not feel the weight or mystery behind the map or any of the human-side structures.

We play as dinosaurs, we get mutations and we are in a remote island, I've played the game for 700 hours and still feel like even after exploring south to north I got very little in terms of "lore".

Would like something more "solid" and right now or I read old documentations from concept art or find videos on the main the isle channel

I'd like more suggestive stuff but I am sure we'll see in the future, I don't feel very curious about it right now and that's a shame

[acoustic osprey]

practically what i said before

ain't really in the forefront of things

[fathom jay]

yeah but I'd like to learn more about it if you guys found something

[acoustic osprey]

there are things slowly brewing in the background
but publicly, we are just in the slow burn of waiting

[fathom jay]

like any youtube lore videos and such

[acoustic osprey]

soon...

[civic pollen]

[rough hollow]

We can only fill in the blanks with our own universes for now.

[stoic hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190479571762548807/1387677712877092984/JohnMogCake.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mudskipper-gif-11350559549650081312

[acoustic osprey]

nothing really new with the terminal, it appears

oh i think i've seen something i was not supposed to see

[snow jasper]

It happens 😞

[civic pollen]

we never hear from isaac again, immediate lineage displacement and tartarus relocation.

[tranquil flume]

The isle AU begins

[civic pollen]

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/catnapping-cat-kidnap-cat-steal-that-was-useful-cat-bag-gif-15383237504303739740

[nimble fractal]

I regret to have eyes to witness the John Cake's reborn form..... 😭

[ionic sable]

Scratch that.
We're just restarting from step 1 practically.

[rough hollow]

The concept blueprint is still there.

[ionic sable]

Its true.
Its true.

[stoic hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1292345890564083773/1489313196635324507/speed.webp

[frozen totem]

niche

[tranquil flume]

I love that

I have the original clip saved to my pc haha

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-weep-iron-man-cry-iron-man-cry-infinity-war-iron-man-sad-iron-man-eyes-closed-gif-11960239971397605102

it was terrible what i saw

for context though
due to the nature of this discord

I will leave it at that

[thin vine]

the horrors we witnessed isaac. the horrors.

[snow jasper]

Oh... Yeah... I've had that misfortune

[acoustic osprey]

yeah don't go on replay with a gen2
lol

[snow jasper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1501926595596652554/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[civic pollen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968592718102138960/1085248539111723018/HumanFlip.gif

[civic pollen]

never noticed the name on the clock was Time-Machines before.
but also they could be apart of an asset pack. isaac would know.
but he's in tartarus.

[stoic hamlet]

What if climbing equipment/supplies like rope or picks could be found in some human bases as rare drops and other human structures can be land-locked onto cliffs or dangerous mountains where that sort of thing would be needed to explore or get to. that would be pretty cool.

[lethal moat]

If they can climb the ivy growing on the side of buildings that’d be pretty cool

[torn monolith]

I would love to harass humans as ptera or quetz if they tried to climb around like that lol

[acoustic osprey]

they do be, yeah

[marble fossil]

I'm curious what kind of tools the human will be able to make in order to survive the isle. Since it is by surely the weakest and less naturally adapted killer. The human's ability to survive is based on resourcefulness. Perhaps collecting urine and other chemicals to create blinding tools or bones to create primal weapons.

I hope they will have access to weapons. I'm sure the corporation being what it is, always has access to an armory, filled with anti-human and anti-dinosaur weaponry. Maybe tranquilizer guns or shotguns.

[lethal moat]

You get a flashlight take it or leave it

[strange shell]

guns

I don't think the gen2 will be able to craft much tbh
Moreso relying on what they can scavenge in facilities

[acoustic osprey]

ye

probably potentially more of a Gen1 thing
but did/does AE need Gen1s to have such ability?

[strange shell]

Could be an ability they developed after being left unchecked on an abandoned island

They don't necessarily the average Gen1 Joe to be able to craft himself a bow for their missions, but maybe after spending years on an island with no purpose he'll have made one out of boredom

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

true true
The Replicator definitely may give them such

(looking at its past stuff like with AUGUSTUS, etc)

[strange shell]

I wonder how that'll translate into gameplay though since Don said not all tribals will be equal in terms of intelligence
Some being able to make pretty complex stuff, while others would be more animalistic

Like, will players have a choice between different kinds of Gen1s with different capabilities, or will it be a kind of "path" to choose ?

Or maybe that will remain as just a lore thing and players won't have any restrictions

[acoustic osprey]

even within physicality as well

some being 'weak' to climb (being swept off by weather) and some being stronger
so, thus, there a different 'physical builds'

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[marble fossil]

🤣 I mean... I'm used to dead by daylight and blinding killers... so I suppose i could blind dinosaurs too

[marble fossil]

water guns 😏 give the dinos a refeshing zap with the fruity zapper, so they won't eat me

[quaint crest]

hey guys just wondering if theyre any good videos to watch?

[thin vine]

for the lore? @acoustic osprey might have some on his YT channel, hes the big lore guy. im not totally sure tho, ive never checked his channel

its just Lightclaw on youtube

[quaint crest]

funny enough im watching one right now

[thin vine]

https://tenor.com/view/celebration-dunk-ser-duncan-the-tall-egg-peter-claffey-gif-4353951980060025720

[quaint crest]

on what is apollo and if ive learnt anything, its a almost agricultural company correct?

also could the island be a gateway to tartarus or hell in some sort. Maybe a deep underground cave with flowing lava

A prison maybe?

[fast forge]

From what we understand, Tartarus seems to be some sort of storage facility/prison for data and/or organisms

Being sent to Tartarus is written like it is a punishment, and yet we also know that some event occurred in Tartarus that lead to a loss of knowledge that has been described as similar to the destruction of the Library of Alexandria (something to do with a rival company or maybe another group within the same company)

[fast forge]

also check out the lore document in the pinned messages, if you haven't already

[quaint crest]

oh i will thnak you very much!

[acoustic osprey]

i will be back and will spew as much as i can for you

[ornate comet]

(He’s hibernating to play subnautica 2)

[quaint crest]

Thank you so much kind sir

[quaint crest]

can sm1 explain to me the classes of humans, for ex Rogue

[lethal moat]

That’s all a bit outdated, I imagine humans will just scavenge what they can get in Evrima

[quaint crest]

i thought they would have been like clearance levels and do quests or smth for guns

[lethal moat]

No quests

Objective is to survive

[quaint crest]

any idea on how they'll get higher clearance than?

[lethal moat]

I imagine clearance levels would be scavenging passkeys and the like

[quaint crest]

mhm

[lethal moat]

Find a higher level access card to get to more secure areas

[quaint crest]

are you eventually able to pick gen 1 cannis then get gen 2 by a strain or is there like a method where you might have to eat a human

[lethal moat]

You choose to spawn as a gen 1 or as a gen 2

[quaint crest]

i thought gen 2 were like hypos and tissus

or wtv

[fast forge]

Gen 2 is just humans, but like, perfected humanity

Gen 1 are the humanoid monsters

[quaint crest]

oh like this

[fast forge]

hyper/tisso/neuro are strains, and will probably come to Gen 1 but not Gen 2 (also dinosaurs)

[quaint crest]

why would they try and prefect humanity tho?

[fast forge]

Are you familiar with the concept of EIP's?

[fast forge]

this is one of the more recent things we got

also this

[quaint crest]

i am not

[fast forge]

An Embryonic Intelligence Profile
From what we fans have gathered, it's basically a downloaded consciousness, and it seems it could be put into human (Gen 2) or dinosaur bodies (and probably Gen 1 too)

[quaint crest]

ohhhhhhhhhh

[fast forge]

They were perfecting humanity because they were selling functional immortality

[quaint crest]

thats wild

[fast forge]

At least, this is what we've gathered from the tidbits that Don tells us

[quaint crest]

do you think youll be able to interact with the strains as it

[fast forge]

Gen 2?
Nah they won't get strains at all

[quaint crest]

mhm intresting

[fast forge]

Different gameplay

I think strains will be connected to the current mutation and elder system in some way (many of the mutations kinda share theming with the strains)

[quaint crest]

i was looking at the matriarch concept and i know its unofficial but i feel like obtainment for it is maybe like a gen2 concept where you sorta lay an egg and reincarnate as it and have to end up getting a different strain

[tulip coral]

That crab is giving me giant enemy spider vibes

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/coming-in-hot-a-minecraft-movie-minecraft-minecraft-movie-steve-gif-12012645769871785617

To begin with, about Apollo Engineering...
it’s not that they’re an agricultural company.
I’m curious if you’re saying that because I might have said that in my YouTube video, and if I did say Apollo is a purely agricultural company, forgive me as that’s just an issue with the video. As its more of an assumption... coming from a quote from Dondi

It’s not that they aren’t agricultural in some sense, but we’re not really too sure what they actually do (in regards to 'agriculture')
Because all we technically got from Don about that is that they make 'food'
But, for example, fast food companies make food, they just aren’t agricultural companies... doesn’t mean they farm it themselves.
Sure, they may fund agricultural operations, but you wouldn’t say McDonald’s is an agricultural company.

So, we don’t know if Apollo is truly agricultural.
We just know they make food, and we know they started in botany, and somehow from botany into food and into dinosaurs. Somehow.
Not that they made food from dinosaurs, or vice versa. We know that ain't the case. They didn’t do that.
But yeah, heck we don’t even know if they still do food.

whatever 'still' means anyways
When are we playing? What time period/era are we talking about for AE/Apollo? Pfft... we'll one day get better info on timeline stuff

Another thing is that we don't even know if “food” was something Dondi was referring to as part of Apollo Engineering specifically, or just the larger Apollo franchise/mother corporation/entity. IF there is an overarching Apollo corporate entity of sorts

Maybe Dondi was talking specifically about 'Apollo', and Apollo had a subsidiary that handled food.
Maybe Apollo started purely as just Apollo Engineering, working in botanical sciences, and then later expanded into a larger parent corporation, with Apollo Engineering becoming one subsidiary underneath it. Then maybe a second subsidiary was created to handle food production.
We know there are subsidiaries like Apollo Pharmaceuticals North, Apollo Red, and Mercury Beneficial, so maybe Apollo Red was the food company. Maybe.
We ain't got any clue.

Second bit: could the island be a gateway to Tartarus, or Hell in some form?

Basically what we believe (practically 'know'. Unless things have changed...). But yeah, that’s the general idea.
When Dondi first teased “Gateway” in Evrima's lore, I said, “Is it a gateway to Tartarus?” and he inferred yes.
And so we know that Tartarus is connected to Gateway. That’s practically confirmed. At least was.
Of course, we all wish we had thicker, more direct lore (like a proper video or document) but we’re working with what we have.
Lore sits in the background of development, so we piece things together as best we can...

However, about Tartarus
I don’t imagine Tartarus as just a generic copy-and-paste version of Hell, or even exactly what Tartarus is/was in the many versions of Greek mythology.
I’m pretty sure, like many other things in this universe, Dondi uses Greco-Roman symbolically more rather than more in the literal sense. (not at a stab at what you thought though!)

For example, Apollo Engineering isn’t a company that tells fortunes, sings/makes music, or rides chariots just because it’s called “Apollo.” It’s a company that brings things back to life. That’s the symbolic use of the name.
That’s what I like about Dondi’s writing: using Greco-Roman references (and some Abrahamic references too, especially Jewish mythology).
I think that’s a good thing, and really neat.
Thought Tartarus being a giant underground lava cave would be cool, I think (personally) it would also feel a bit shallow

Now, as you said: could Tartarus be a prison?
That’s actually a great idea.
From what we’ve seen, we know Tartarus is some kind of prison... but it’s also a creation facility.
In legacy lore, it was basically only a creation facility (for strains and large projects like the Matriarch).

We know it has that role still, though, because of Augustus. His replicants were left there, implying things are created there.
However, it’s not just a creation facility anymore. Being used as a warning or punishment for workers (as you know).
I kinda like referring it to like the idea of Shrek during early DreamWorks Animation development.
When DreamWorks was making The Prince of Egypt, being sent to work on Shrek was basically a punishment project. If you look at early Shrek development, it was chaotic, ugly, and seen as a doomed project ... basically a write-off.
Obviously, that changed, and it became an amazing film, but at the time it was seen as punishment.

That’s kind of how I think of Tartarus (the punishment bit): a place where you get sent to work if you’ve done something against AE rules.

Also, hust to fact-check one small thing from Tiny

The idea that Tartarus had some event that caused a loss of knowledge, this isn't correct.
She’s mixing that up the “Library of Alexandria” concept with the TOMB (a subsection of the Replicator, relating to EIPs)
So its a completely separate thing
Just a small correction to Tiny's statement, though, just so we’re clear on that.

@quaint crest sorry, took a while to write

[quaint crest]

Ty so much I’ll read it soon I just have to get to school first

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Theoretically can’t you find out or get a rough estimate of the timeline from tracking long-term solar cycles or measuring star positions and identifying the celestial pole?

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Also I thought it wasn’t just a punishment for the worker but for the workers family lineage

[snow jasper]

I used to think reaper, echidna and colossus were strains of humans

[fast forge]

I think they are Gen 1 strains

[slate pewter]

They are not reptiles?

[slate pewter]

That means they are mammals?

[marble fossil]

still confused about this concept of the game world and this "tartarus". The company sounds like your typical multi-national billionaire (or trillionaire) biotech mega corporation that can basically do whatever it wants (and has).

The world has some form of food shortages (the poultry riots) and this megacorp seems to have been given the responsibility (or maybe it is just one of the many that took the opportunity) to find a way to reverse that food shortage.

With one branch of it's experimentation divisions, it created these dinosaur strains (maybe similar to the jurassic park movies, where they did this in order to increase human life potential and cure diseases). But now it has also created these other strains that are more... weapon-like than actually useful in a civilian way. They are increasingly furthering the boundaries of science (for good or ill) with no one to control them... except it also seems maybe they have lost control?

But what is this tartarus idea... Lightclawed's recent post gives me the impression that it is a location to dispose of (or punish) people and failures. But there has to be something more... would a mega corporation really create such a place, just to play God (even more than they already have) and punish people? 😏 obviously money for a mega corp is no longer an issue, since they practically control world government and organizations anyway, but what is the purpose of this? you'd think a bullet to the head and shredding into usable biomatter/feed is more efficient and cost -effective (Mega Corporations are ALWAYS about Efficiency and Cost-Efficiency).

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My theory is Tartarus is also a testing site, so if you break your contract, you volunteer yourself to be put into some of the more grotesque or painful experiments a few times

[lethal moat]

It didn’t say family lineage, just lineage, which may be an important distinction

[quaint crest]

I thought they were

[lethal moat]

The new reaper looks a lot more gen 1 derived

[marble fossil]

mmmm... so it's probably a place where experiments of severe and high risky levels are conducted and if the subject dies, it doesn't really matter.

[quaint crest]

Can you send like a ss

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1495496800801525881/image.png?ex=6a0813ae&is=6a06c22e&hm=0c3aea9395ca66cfc791e08cc885504a47f1e86f4f7af05dd5c39f8fadaabda2&

[strange shell]

frend

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[quaint crest]

Mhm

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We need tissoplastic reaper plushies as merch

[quaint crest]

Also lineage means a direct descent of ancestor or smth so but I forget what fully pops up when you need clearance

[lethal moat]

@marble fossil No. Don’t be weird.

[quaint crest]

Tisso Rex looks so fun

[marble fossil]

🤣 fair enough.

[lethal moat]

Yep, which I think could apply nicely to EIPs and their “rebirth” process

[quaint crest]

Ohhh that would make sense

[strange shell]

It could also mean that old MMORPG from the 2000s

But that wouldn't make much sense so I don't think it means that

[lethal moat]

I don’t know why I didn’t just use the word replication

[marble fossil]

Since it kinda shows they are going into weaponized biotech experiments... it wouldn't surprise me if they attempted to make human-hybrid super soldiers (is kinda what I was getting at). Like the Saurus from Warhammer.

[strange shell]

That makes more sense than using dinos as weapons at least

[marble fossil]

I mean, with the right controls... anything can be made into a weapon 😏

[strange shell]

But it's sooo useless

[marble fossil]

a golden retriever with freakin laser beams!

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 are stated to be weapons

[marble fossil]

yeah, I gathered that by the way their abilities are. But it seems they have lost control over them already.

[strange shell]

That or Gen1 were left without a purpose after the island got abandoned and just went feral

Makes me wonder how much control AE actually had over them

Wait

What if they're like that Avatar bs with the blue people

Where Gen1s aren't just thrown into enemy facilities like rabid animals, but rather AE employees get their consciousness temporarily transferred into them so they can wreak havoc thoughtfully

[lethal moat]

Agree to disagree

[marble fossil]

that would be interesting.

[lethal moat]

Would be kewl

[strange shell]

That just makes the image of a Gen1 with a bulletproof vest and a M16 pop in my head and I don't think I like it

[marble fossil]

what if we the players... are the employees though? and are just acting out what we perceive as natural instinct? 😏

[lethal moat]

Definitely possible the players represent EIPs given how we move from body to body when we die

We also know eips can go somewhat feral, though some don’t, which I think happens when you turn on the lizard brain when playing lol

[marble fossil]

I mean... looking at the playerbase sometimes... I've definitely seen some feral things 😛

[lethal moat]

What’s with the cringe emojis? Regardless, lore explanation for player behavior is a fun thing to explore

[marble fossil]

I like them.

player behaviour is strange. I don't think i've ever heard of Herbivores intentionally killing other herbivores (among dinosaurs). for amusement. The idea of herbivores intentionally playing solo is also very strange, considering most are "herd" animals that like to be among others (especially since it likely means survival).

[lethal moat]

We saw herbivores attacking other herbivores in the Atlas video

[marble fossil]

never saw it, were they also the same species?! that's madness... I've never heard of it

[lethal moat]

Trikes and dibbles

[marble fossil]

though to be fair, im no dinosaur expert

[marble fossil]

hmmm... I can understand attacking (territory, food, mating emotions, etc) it's normal behaviour, but not intentionally killing... that just seems very odd, even among general animals (carnivores included).

[lethal moat]

https://youtu.be/BPiNB4vP73I?si=4POxCTF6InB1HmLT

[marble fossil]

this is so cool... are those actual players though?!