#isle-lore-theories
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I made a joke
that made the whole world cry
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I didnt mention this to you in DMs but I got the code sent to me via DM. I was not mad to have my lore hunt ruined, I was relieved to have avoided wasting my time.
I had already spent a few hours trying as many 4 character combinations as possible, and with Dondi taunting me further I was ready to commit several more hours. I am far more dissapointed in the hunt itself, than the people who datamined it.
I wish I never got involved with this in the first place, but that doesn't change that I really just wanted to give Islecord a nudge with the image I sent to light a fire under their ass. I was wanting to give other hints and clues until it was figured out as well, but obviously decided against it. Didnt matter much since it was figured out either way.
So no, I did not find it legimately, nobody did, technically.
Honestly, I doubt anyone would have, either.
I heard this song before
I just don’t know where
Wha
devil's lettuce does that to ya
ooooo i saw the typing MISTAKE
Yall cracked the code!!!!!!
nuh uh!
This
such a weird password though
Ggs Don nice lil Easter egg
Temper your expectations.
ngl bro just greeting us with an easter egg
Do u mean. It’s ANOTHER password
EGGS
The Brothers Gibb
Fantastic
NO YOU DIDN T
Its not in our DMs!!
Given a few more days, I disagree
not at all
The only time someone got even on the same wavelength was when the guy who posted a video about it put the people on the right path lol
(The Video of the terminal being accessed)
With no external information, we would still be stuck trying to find 4 character combinations until the end of time. Even if we tried longer passwords, there are no clues, no hints, no relevance to the story at all, it would be quite the stretch to assume the community could actually figure it out with no input.
I figured don would let folks squirm for a few days, then drop a hint or just tell us
yeah
truly nothing pointed to FIFTEEN lol
(point back to Dondi yesterday and his gif lol)
It was 2 days worth of time
We had so much more
wait that wasn't yesterday
16th of dec yay
Ultimately, goldfish attention span lead to people ruining it, at least for me, potentially for others
(I would technically put this at starting at when we first got told about something being in the loading screen)
although
we only kinda only 'knew' what to do once he showed it better on stream
We were being given hints
It would take god knows how many more days for us to even get the hint that its actually 15 digits tho
And then it'll take even longer with everyone testing all the 15 letter combos lol
Especially since the password was not lore related at all !!
So it takes time
what hints did we have prior to the scrape? I only know of the dondi joke video
Who cares, we're not getting any new lore regardless
Even regardless of that...
I dont really care if it got solved or not because the hunt was never good in the first place for a puzzle like this to be anything more than spamming random things that came to mind, it would need go have some level of feedback, or at least some kind of clue or direct mention elsewhere. The code hidden between glitches in a lore video, a link found in game, graffiti on a structure, audio pieces to put together... anything.
This was never anything.
To that end, I dont have a reason to care.
The lore hunt was nice while people still had the illusion that it had anything to do with the lore, now that the illusion has been broken, I think it is naive to say that it was ever a real hunt to begin with.
Even the first "Lore Hunt" had something in game to be found.
the hint(s) being
"loading screen"
In my opinion
All this time
Would just lead to disappointment,
So im glad it ended shortly rather than taking several weeks
A good puzzle needs something to focus the player, a mystery needs clues to be solved, without it, whats the point?
true
It was never given the chance to be anything, it was ruined from the start
It's an easter egg, there's not much to look into
It never was anything.
'for the lore people' though
It was fun
as per roughly paraphrasing from don stream
Or it could have been
I love puzzles, this is not a puzzle, this isnt fun.
He said "not my fault lore people haven't found it" that is not the same thing
It could have been fun to actually find it, but no
I think this is, at its most charitable interpretation, heavily underbaked, and should not have been shown in this state.
It's not about the end result, that's the point
If we count this as a lore hunt
This is technically the second time we were used to find not much of anything actually "Lore"
I mean this has some cool terminal UI!! That is heavily in development
So yeahhh, but nothing major
We got the two lore videos to suffice tho I suppose
GUYS... Atlas died 😭
It's about having fun with the community trying to figure it out, and whichever of turk and trunk's friend datamined it made the decision for everybody else that there was no journey to be had
was the password found out?
Someone datamined it
welcomeislander
there's no lore
welcomeislander
welcomeislander
JINX
at least with this, this can be updated and evolve (to a more final product)
it didnt lead to anything?
not anything of interest
two arcade games
but nothing truly lore
yep
Indeed!
And at least with the first one there was a fun journey involved!
there are two rough minigames. thats it currently
Nah, just a sily easter egg
nothing hidden in the minigames?
only thing it led us to is gobbling
There would be no finding.
Someone would either stumble across it randomly, or it would remain undiscovered.
Thats not a hunt, thats not a community challenge, if yhe challenge or hunt can just be boiled down to "try random things until something happens" that is a horrible puzzle. There is nothing fun here, there is no community mission, there is no lore significance, there is nothing of value. I get the optimism, I understand that we are working with table scraps here... but c'mon man, have at least some standards.
nope
damn
i mean
both had great journeys
the night i was streaming very as enjoyable, if not more, then the last
right? i was hoping for audio or text or real lore lol but thats not whats there
My standards consist of doing things the way they were intended to be done, not taking short cuts that were never intended, have a little integrity
i do wish this was more like the last
the Dibble TCAM lore hunt told us (technically) in the description of its video
The lore hunt was ass, yes, but it was less than that to start with because people have always known by taking a cheap cop out
so where were we supposed to find the password? I cant think of anywhere ive seen "welcome islander" be used and i spent the last few times playing exploring structures and things of the like
Yeah, it would have taken us a minute
if you really really think hard enough with the song track "Welcome to The Isle"
I slept and was busy throughout most of this "lorehunt"
so I guess I mightve missed the journey
Either way I was told the password literally the day of the stream soo yeahhh
This surprises me zero
oh intersting. didnt know there was a track
Especially since this was somewhat released with trike and rex videos!
and i kinda doubt that the track was actually supposed to be referenced
nothing really pointing to it
what
comment from youtube guy
Without datamining we would just be running around trying 4 character codes like chickens with our heads cut off.
And I am fine with that
can someone make a timeline of events
Thats absurd Rumple.
Better than denying any sort of sport or fun
Why would you want datamining in a lore hunt ?
what?
?
This sets a horrible precedent yall, and I am tremendously dissapointed you guys are trying to defend this
Am I reading smt wrong ?
No
yes
Ah ok well then my point stands
Im not saying datamining should be a part of the lore hunt, absolutely not.
That is the position you are defending
He is not
Then what is he doing
im with you on that one. am i nuts or is that the one from the first iteration of the isle? why would that have anything to do with evrima considering the constant reminder "its a different/new game"?????
loading screen was told to have stuff on the 10th Dec
We go crazy trying to find something
Then we see it is a terminal on the 16th Dec
We go crazy trying to find something
Then 'we find the password' today 19th Dec
(all Aussie time)
I am fully willing to admit the hunt was ass and the payout wasn't much, but that isn't what I'm getting from this conversation
What I'm reading is is hacker saying without datamining we are clueless which can be understood or shows sigsn of " I'm gald we have datamining so we don't have to search for that long"
Cerato has been ok with datamined stuff before, so has Lightclaw, so my standards for them are low, but I'm curious as to what you have to say hacker
That's what I'm getting out of this too
That the cries of everyone complaining about someone datamining this lore hunt is an overreaction
Maybe Im wrong @ionic sable Idk
At least thats how I view it
If Im wrong hit me with a shovel hacker
What's to stop the exact same thing from happening with something genuinely cool
But just one question do we have the password now or what ?
tldr "it was the friends we made along the way" is a horrible copout for the 'hunt' and 'discoveries'
-my interpretation of this convo
welcomeislander
Devs take the appropriate measures against it?
The same way they did with the first
What’s the point of the puzzle if you just go straight to the answer without trying to solve it
Let me guess datamining
There was no puzzle though lol
It is
Great.
the whole point of Hackers argument is that there was none (in terms of being a puzzle)
Alright, but as one of the main figures in the lore community, you should not be promoting datamining as a method of acquiring information, regardless of wether or not it was protected
so who made the first video of them accessing the terminal
i think the clip of Don teasing it preceeded the other yt clips by a few days
This is about holding the community that you guys now control to a higher standard than "take what you can when you can"
It might not been the best puzzle but it was a puzzle
Datamining is on the same level as spoilers in a movie
Destroys the fun (imo)
Im glad the hunt is over, because it was a really bad hunt. Unless something is specifically designed around datamining, as some ARGs in other games tend to be, I am outright against datamining ruining things like these. The lore hunt previously was not able to be datamined, there was nothing in the games code to be actually... mined. Or, preventative measures should be put in place, in the same way there is at least some attempt to obscure the elder requirements in the game.
Datamining being used as a tool to skip past the puzzle part of a puzzle, and straight to the solution is lame... however, this is not a puzzle. It cannot be treated as such. I am not aligned with the dataminers, however, I am glad to have been leaked it, as it saved me from several hours of frustration. In this case, and this case alone I am fine with datamining as the outcome.
As I said, without it, this whole thing would be an absurd waste of everyone's time. Its very likely that with no input, from datamining or dondi, it would not be found. I am more relieved that this damn thing is over, than angry it was datamined.
That would be like calling the Elder system a puzzle.
Its not.
If this was a puzzle that could be solved through clues and community sleuthing, I would be livid right now, but its not.
So I do not have even remotely the same level of attachment.
It was an ass puzzle, but it was a puzzle, the dumbass that datamined it does not care that it was this instance or the next one, and any sort of tolerance for this is a bad thing, this isn't about the puzzle being ass, we can all agree it was, it's about the leaders of lorecord going "yeah, this is ok" when it isn't in other instances, this is going to happen again, and it is going to ruin the fun for people, and you just do not care enough to shame it now before it is a legitimate issue
I didn't promote it, nor did I even datamine it, I was told the password and kept it a secret. I told no one. Well other than Tiny because I think she deserved to know at least half of the equation. That being the password is not 4-5 digits long. But other than that no one knew.
I myself didn't have enough time or the will to just spam the keyboard for hours straight. So when a certain person reached out to me whether I'd like to know it. I used it.
I kept it a secret, I didnt use the information to go telling everyone the password and getting youtube clout.
If someone datamines it, cool, that was their decision to ruin it for themselves. Devs fault for not hiding it.
And as far as I know everyone that I know that datamined it did not once go around screaming the password and ruining it for others.
(I DO NOT know the guy that posted a video on it)
Even if I am a main figure in the lore community, I cannot control what anyone else does.
But I did NOT promote it.
yay I guess
I would rather us struggle over this for months than dataminers have their way
yeah i missed it too lol
Why are you trying to make this about lorecord? They were never involved?
holy
Lorecord is presented as "the face" of the lore community, and I have personal gripes over other things lorecord has going on, it should not exist, and this is only furthering my assurance of that idea
But... they have nothing to do with this.
I think that lorecord is a mess as much as the next guy, I dont think ive seen anything even tangentially related to lore mentioned in there for weeks. But again, that server has no affiliation with this issue.
Cerato and lightclaw are both in charge of that community, they hold, by and large, the most sway over where people direct their time and effort in searching for lore, and by not condemning this, they are setting a bad precedent
ok piers morgan
I don’t really participate in the isle lore stuff but pop in here occasionally. This would’ve leaked regardless of if any of you condemn it. That’s just how secrets work. I think it’s unfair to cast judgement on them for not.
They are leaders, weather they want to be or choose to be or not
I'll have you know the lore chat in lorecord has been very much active this week 
what in the mental gymnastics am i trying to translate here
whether
My judgement is on the dataminers, and the issue I have with currently is that people are trying to say datamining is just ok this once
its sad how if you call something a secret it isnt a secret anymore
...
Rumple, I get that you feel strongly about this, and Lorecord, but I think you're being rather unfair in this situation. You can't pin blame on them for the actions of other, unrelated parties.
I don't blame them, I blame whoever the hell trunk and turk got it from, but this should be a hardline stance, because this is going to be a reocurring issue
Great, still not gonna touch that cesspit.
I’m really disappointed that you think of me like this, low.
I have never — ever — been okay with data mining this kind of stuff. And you know that.
The only thing I’ve ever been fine with data mining is music tracks, because there is literally no other way to access them.
To think that you would see me so poorly honestly hurts.
Look, I understand that, in the grand scheme of things, this does not matter much.
I try not to care too deeply, and I always forgive and forget.
But I still feel disappointed that you could lump me into this sort of cluster — some figure that should be pushed aside, or treated as if I shouldn’t be where I am because I supposedly promote this behaviour.
I don’t promote this at all.
But I suppose it does get jumbled when original lorecord said (especially myself) was that it was okay to post non-lore data-mined stuff. Like info about dino stats.
That was because I personally didn’t care about that specific content.
Not caring about something is not the same as promoting it.
But, I guess it brought the wrong sentiment — especially from how you may look at it
But yes, I’ve said before that I datamine music
and maybe that does mean I’m selecting and choosing based on my own biases.
I can admit that.
Maybe I am a bad guy — not against TOS, but by de facto
But even so, I’m still very disappointed that you would think of me like this.
I’m not surprised, considering how you’ve been acting toward all of us over the past few months, but that doesn’t make it hurt any less.
I do have a lot of respect for you, and I like to say that I don’t care how you think of me — but maybe I do.
Maybe I do care about how I’m being portrayed, because this feels unfair.
Maybe this is why you unfriended me, or why you’ve hidden things away or distanced yourself from lore despite still being part of lore
...I don’t know...
I just hope that this judgment isn’t coming from one small thing I did and done. Emphasis on the past tense :/
And that this is the only reason you seem so against so many of us lately.
Of course, I’ve noticed this pattern over the past few months.
Of course, this situation is the result of many people’s actions — both from within this group and from the communities that came into Lorecord.
Still, it’s disappointing. Y
ou know how upset I was when Lorecord was deleted.
This just adds to that feeling.
It’s a bummer — plain and simple.
I understand the position you’re in, especially as an admin. I really do.
You have to be cautious, and sometimes you have to think critically about people because things can go bad.
I get that ... I just wish you that you didn't see me in this way. But I cannot change who you are.
I know that after everything that happened in Lorecord, you probably weren’t going to be the same anymore, nor see the same way anymore about a lot of us.
But even so, it’s a shame.
I don't know what I'm gonna do now, honestly.
I am just a bit disappointed, thats all
Holy hacker
Would you like to talk about it in DMs?
I hate to ask, but I'm...kind of out of the loop. I'm not sure what exactly happened recently that's caused all of this 
May I receive a summary if possible? <:I
You are literally in it 😭
Doesn't mean I gotta touch it
somebody datamined the password for the cool lore hunt
Oh.
Scroll up a lil bit, you should be able to infer what happened
but you did 
ANYWAY AWAY FROM LORECORD
help what happened to the lorecord idk
You are literally in it too 😭
EH
someone datamined the password for the 'egg hunt'. then shared it with some people. and those people are being condemned currently by an outcast of their own about having higher standards than the quality of the 'egg hunt' for accepting the data mined password
lol
I DONT TOUCH THAT CESSPIT
as of an hour ago btw
ANYWAY BACK TO THE LORE HUNT DRAMA
not me
thats akanopily
im akanopiky

its my alter ego
i do want the lore website
a forum system is far better than a separate server
lorecord is that way
it gives a social aspect that a single channel/lore document cant
lorecord is a cesspit, as you can see by the numerous people saying so
...perhaps I shouldn't have come back. 
Lorecord had nothing to do with the datamining of the password
To be fair I saw these days people here reaching levels of madness like the half life community, I am not even myself a fan of "oops I leaked the password game's over" but if you cannot find it after searching top to bottom on the whole map or watching multiple times pausing the videos on youtube I don't blame people wanting to just end it and go next, a hunt should be fun not tedious
That part is about the lore community
no i think it is ok
Crack pot theory but what if Magna's(originally) were just part of the mutation system?
Again, legacy so irrelavant but still
A theory that I have is that given that we have the Audio file on the C drive of the BIOS and we know that in the trail cam there was that loud rumble that spooked the Stegos, I wonder if we will end up getting a reference to it in that drive.
🥲
well Magnas were supposed to be variants, less so strains
so probably
although with affinity and not mutations...
I theorize that EIPs are actually streamed from the tomb, rather than passed on from one creature to the next.
I did not like Magnas. :c
ok guys eh
Also @acoustic osprey In the future, what do you think about us getting access to like the glance sheet through the BIOS?
ATLAS DIED 😭
i presume that be in line with the rex paleo calls
Hmmm
Meaning, to the individual it would be one constant stream of consciousness, rather than disconnected instances of the same mind.
i get that. im of the mind idgaf about it leaked. i STILL wanna know what the dots were to connect and how we were supposed to find it etc. im curious of that journey and how it was supposed to be deciphered.
unfortunately some finger shaking is taking more conversational space here than actually talking about the lore theories or the process that was skipped [but implied to be doable/discoverable]
i've not had any solid theories since my take on EIPs, consciousness, and whatnot 😦
oh 100%
if this terminal is truly supposed to be worked on over time
it has to be
imagine trying to read the glance sheets in-game
it is already hard enough to read the marketplace assets
and text of actual isle models
Pragmatically you may have a point, but the ppl were having fun lore hutning, it seems.
you did NOT theorise that, I did
it was ME, ALWAYS ME AND ALWAYS WILL BE ME
having somewhere to see a proper 2d print of documents
AND MAYBE download that
would be great
Wasn't something said once that anything we find in-game has a reason to be there? As in no random "oh just a funny easter egg" kinda things?
I will defend my one and only good theory as MINE
yeah me too, might still be a cool connection
Don has said 'in the past' (around 2022 iirc)
that he doesn't want random text and easter egg texts on models
of course, there still is
but with only one model guy for human stuff, it takes time
But that deep? to be mistaken for a seismic activity?
Do we know btw if Dilo is still meant to get strains?
I see. I figured there's still a lot of placeholder stuffs.
that is why the afterthought easter egg was removed
It should not exist?
I've always wondered since whenever I explore human buildings, I try to analyze the stuff there but think "wait is that real or placeholder? ugh" 😛
guys imagine a hyperendocrin troodon
ye
Rex Paleo Calls are infrasound
so technically from 20hz and below
less hearing it and more so feeling it
i believe it is inferred with the rex coming up on screen (at the end of the trike vid) and the INTRUDER audio analysis report coming up for a few frames
That's what I was thinking too.
I deleted the original lorecord because I personally don't think maintaining that group of people is worth the effort
Either way, I love the Paleo Calls ^^
mmmm
My only issue is, I did prefer the 1 call from the Gateway trailer tho. Just felt more boomy
Ok, so its your opinion
I would love if the paleo calls had some screen rumble effect to simulate you feeling them. But sadly changes to vision = very angry players. :/
Most of this conversation has been my opinion
friend drama isnt the lore i wanted 😢
Oooohhh. OR OR OR
Remember the legacy glitch effect?
horrid effect 😭
peak
-# Yeeeeah....
But the lore I DO want!? Gen 1
Yeah, but putting it that way sounded kinda weird
Dude, Idek what's going on, so I'm just yapping about my crack pot theory.
(And no, I don't want education on this so don't drag me in please, whoever is going to try)
I imagine like a very subtle vignette and motion blur kind of effect for paleo calls. Emphasis on subtle, not saying "yeah your screen turns into yogurt when a Rex calls".
I've seen it before in games but I can't think of a good example.
gen 1 chain ⬇️
its all about u jay, ur the key to everything
I have strong opinions about lorecord
I've been John Cake all along
😱
Please, hold the applause
that would be cool
Can you bake a cake though
I will not applaud. I will, however, give you a golf clap 👏
I am made of cake, not bake cake
If I baked Cake, I would be John Baker
Jayce 0
Me 1
YOUR JOHN THE CAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
john yogurt
john cake would be a victoria sponge
lol
I actually come from the 1600's
Something like this I guess. You hear the rumble as your screen briefly (about half a second) fades into and out of what you see here.
uh
Doesn't translate well as an image, but uh...imagine it moving
It's just to give an idea huehue. Not a perfect representation.
It'd definitely be brief and subtle, the idea being it just kinda "wuhwuhs" then goes as fast as it came.
imagine if we had fpv on dinos
Just something to give that sense of vibration and "oh god what is that"
oh yea sure
mmmmmm
what game is it.......?
GOAT GOBBLER
Brain forgor :C
ITS GOBBLIN TIME
why does this gif look so hd and smooth??
best part

(tenor)
no waaaayyy
the ultimate mod (from a egirl server)
oh
it's lore theories, this channel is frequently quiet
yeah i can see
you do not see
It comes and goes
i do see, therefore, your opinion is invalidated
prove it
im not satisfied
i see twice
what even is sight
now, sight is the sense of seeing
I swear if you say that Atlas died for the 10th time
hordetest patch!
i said it twice .
no, its the use of light to paint an image in your head
ATLAS DIED
nope
the father of the furies never dies
then isnt echolocation sight, because they see the world, but via a different medium?
it is the receiving of light by the eyes, transferred by the optical nerve, the stimuli goes to your brain and is processed
yes
GOBBLING TIME
also, since we've come to an agreement, both arguments are valid, but mine better cuz skill issue
neither of you beat my highscore. therefore you both lose via goat gobblin
therefore, your word has no value
gobble gobble
wobble wobble
❤️
before killerkrakken: 💔
after killerkrakken: ❤️
This is NOT loreee!!
lol i agree. we makin new lore now
yep
you are NOT lore
GOBBLE GOBBLE
😂
GOBBLE WOBBLE
Welcome Islander and come along on the Master Hunt! You will see every part of the map and every type of prey.. This was a very fun video to make, so please, ENJOY!
All footage from Official Server CA1
🤔
this is a long shot
I know lol, its just funny
GOBBLE GOBBLE
Theres new stuff
In the secret thing
When you type in Apollo this loads in
AND THEN you get the password thing
It looks the same, am i crazy?
Was there already a loading thing after you put in Apollo?
found something in the loading screen after i saw a video on youtube
Feather frenzy.exe has anyone checked that out?
Yes its running with a gun in its hand
Its another arcade game
Ye i know what’s that one about? Austro??
No
Chicken
More like white boxes with numbers but yeah
Unfinished got it
Gambling in The Isle basically
lol
both hands
Yes
the modern way of handling a handgun
literally howw did someone guess EGGS
sometimes
LOL
lol
indeed
Wait did we get the password?
welcomeislander
oh catag
Datamined and we got a minigame
Is there any way to beat it
Mmm seems like no?? Similar to flappy bird in a sense. It’s also still a wip
datamined 
Don is gonna have zero faith for this stuff anymore lol
i knew this would happen
i've had other lore stuff datamined and shown to me unfortunately
going to keep it to myself
the people who datamined it tho didn’t tell anybody until we basically found it out ourselves
i think
they gave us hints through that video without actually telling us
so they wouldn’t spoil it
so it was well intended
but there should not have been any data mining in the first place
…yeah Don may be disappointed
which vid
I mean either way
If the people who datamined it didn't give out any hints
It would take us AWHILE, A LOT of time, to find the password for something that is barely working.
true dat
Just like many said before
It would be much more disappointing for everyone
So it's a relief that it only took two days
I think don would’ve given subtle hints to keep the fire going
Yeah he would have had fun w it
He was laughing at the Google doc the other day 😂
He’d space them out too

Imo he should have tried hiding like the first lorehunt if this was so important,
Buttt, turns out it wasn't much
Not much YET,
I can definitely see him changing the password in the future and actually hiding it once theres actually lore to put there
he probably wanted to delay it until there was actually stuff in there, but probably should’ve let us know of it’s existence when there was actually stuff in it
yeah that makes sense
is it possible to make it secure from data mining in the first place?
maybe this was like a security test
He likes to showcase things off when it’s a smaller stream, he’s sneaky about it
yeah
I dont think he was expecting us to “solve” it in a matter of days
There is definitely a way
They hid the code for the youtube link in the first lorehunt
No one was able to find it in the game files iirc, only the TCAM model
yes but that’s different than a data terminal in game, they would have to get really creative with making it secure
He should make it binary next time 😂
ye
assuming that person is linked with them
basically by brute forcing it
there was no solving to be done, to be fair
As far as we know. The only way of knowing would be asking now that we know
to be fair
I don't think anything else 'of the terminal' needs to be hidden
the terminal is known now
and presumably made for lore
unless this is supposed to be the future place to start off lore hunts now
which would be interesting
hm?
Asking Don how long he’d think we’d take on solving it
fair
Im curious as to how long he thought we could go
to be fair
the original quote sounded like he expected us to already know lol
but how much? everything? As in both 'passwords'
(of course, unless that quote was a joke from him and purely said to hint at us solely ... to find it)
I didnt watch the stream so i had no idea what was said
i fell asleep mid stream and missed it
"There are things hidden in the server queues, it's not my fault the lore people haven't found them"
i still think up up down down left right left right would've been better than typing apollo
Ah he hinted to it’s existence ok ok
well, that is basically what set this off
Yeee
when he said queues, he meant loading screen as well*
lol
oh
Ah okie
The ability to enter the password being removed if you type any characters other than "apollo" is a bit odd. That alone probably prevented it from being found.
What is this from
an anime called paprika
some psychological horror twist thingy majig
not watched it, but saw its going to be shown at a local cinema on new years
I knew it looked familiar
It's been so long since I've seen that movie, but I remember it being very very good
yeee :>
Oh I've never seen it in theaters, that sounds fun
i hope so, been years since i've been to one
ye, a bit hard
Wait, does that mean existed in Game for ages?
doubt
i do hope they disconnect the terminal from loading screens though
it seems like a maybe, since they added that white terminal loading 'animation' that is bugged
probably not
probably either since UI overhaul came out or for a few weeks maybe months. Tops
To be fair, how would you’ve ever found out about it without being shown off? It’s not something that people normally do.
Its probably existed since the UI update.
ye
pretty much
to the jumping games just like a placeholder right? Is it the video that shows it? And to be honest? I’ve kinda like not being fully there for the stream and all the videos. I am not hundred percent sure what’s going on with it but I’m presuming that the Potel leads to actual lore stuff and not just the ester egg game.
uuddlrlr
the terminal likely will lead to actual lore things
I basically 95% believe that it will have something 'in the future' though
I hate that they all dropped its lore stuff and Pot did a massive update the same week i wasn’t home, I just finished School so much time and then dropping the one point where I wouldn’t be able to do anything
i am 65% sure it is supposed to be a place to download or read lore
rather than purely being in-game
because reading in-game assets are painfully low quality
Thematically, i feel like having them being sent to your terminal would be cooler
yeah, there’s paint to read them in game but it just feels more interactive that way of with the lore because of a random player can run into it in game and learn about it then they can become like a fan of it but you have to do some bull crap process to see it becomes a lot harder for new people to enjoy it
but if maybe once you interacted with in-game document
and it got big on your screen (and 2d, flat)
i wouldn't mind
but terminal would be cool
ye
The terminal is cool though I like how it like draws back to law and the fact that we’re technically not actually the dinosaur unless I’m mistaken we are the dinosaur from memory which just observing the animal
i do hope the terminal is made easier to find
depends
i think the dinosaurs we play are EIPs
Aka. Human minds in dinosaur bodies
so i would agree
i gotta start pumping out isle lore videos, guh
I forgot about the EIps
Honestly, I don’t understand your actual purpose of doing that but like why would you want to do that?
they be doing stuff sometimes 🤔
one of the biggest unknown 'big topics'
from memory from what you’re saying before the EIPs are recycled right and only gain conscious on death when we see them in the deaf terminal which is just a representation of them being taken out and reused
well
at least from Dondi, we know with the thousand life contract, people want this
To some extent — i don't have the best supporting quotes on hand and some stuff is from streams
so... something about 'the contract' of it is desirable
I also forgot about the thousand life contract
definitely could be
in legacy lore, yes
but evrima? probably
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I know don’t confirmed it isn’t about making people mortal. Would be funny if the whole point is just like reincarnation or breaking the cycle reincarnation. It turns out the aisle is taking place like Buddhism stuff.
damn that is sick
i’ve gotta hunt down the legacy lore podcast
i wish we could get something like that
but also combined with something like BF5's 'easter egg hunts'
(you brought this game up a couple years ago)
Ima binge watch it when driving back from Sydney to Queensland actually listen to it. It’s a good plan.
did i
Lol

If my messages sound weird it’s because I’m using a voice to text right now and I sometimes have ideas about the sentence mid speaking and try and fix it
no proper legacy lore thing out there besides MeatyLock
i think you are thinking of me and rumples Evrima one
which is a bit old now
all good
I knew it was old so I just presumed it was legacy but then again every minute is like five years old so
that and also people playgrounds 'lore hunt'
ha fair
I loved how it translated everima to every minute
XD
to be fair
people playgrounds' one is a bit random
but it is more so
play the game
find little weird things
then piece together
rather then
pre-existing/pre-established lore media indicating "X" or "Y"
lol
very true
it doesn’t matter if it’s old. I honestly will take anything I can get to better understand it because like when talking to people these kinds of communities I know even if it’s older I’ll talk about it a lot and it’s just hard to understand about knowing the stuff that came before the current things it’s kind of like how when teaching science in high school or at least they teach youlike basic other model and then they teach you new ones on top of it because like if you went straight into the new one, they’re talking about things that you learned to refer to in the old one even if they’re not actually relevant any more
going back on topic though are we still debating whether the password is 4 digits or 15
What demon am I hearing
Idk if it was a bary or what I never heard any of its new calls
lol was it 12 not 15
a juvie allo call that is out of stam
Very end
I know the first
At 16 seconds forward
yea thats also a allo call
Dang
they do some light trolling
I’m gonna say I never heard that kind of allo lmao
the trend started a while back, someone called out in discord they heard a bary, turned out to be a juvi allo, now everyoneeeee is roleplaying as a bary 
Lmao
Try hitting delete.
I have a feeling like there is a random military task force made to capture these lil overgrown lizards.
(we know the password)
(Whats the password?)
i tried this earlier unless this was new addition 🤔
welcomeislander
(Too many words I can't take it into my brain)
(Also what's the password?)
welcomeislander methinks
(Gugugaga)
(Welcome islander methinks)
yay
servers are restarting
(I don't think I can think)
oh
time to test shenanigans
(Can I think about it?)
Just a routine restart
my friend that has bad ping was able to get to the arcade thing lol
Im tempted to do it but at what cost
Still nothing
I still get that funky screen when i exit
Ohhhh
I got it
Sorry my neurons are a bit slow thanks don
yeee that one
wonder if i can delete that too hmm
nope just becomes an uninteractable screen huh
breaking things is fun 
How do I get to The Terminal?
join a server and once the logo loading screen pops up type apollo. if you accidentally mistype press delete and retype apollo. passcode is welcomeislander
Is there a way to Stay in the Terminal?
you can try and bug it. there's double clicking on the name in the list, hitting connect once, messing with server ip link in steam and going offline, but all of those could or could not work. try a server with higher ping too
alright, thank you
about that...
Fear reside with my message.
What happens post welcomeislander
They did?
Yeah
When I tried it, it worked
yay
hmm, doesn't seem to work for me
ah, the literal delete key lol
then it does work, woohoo
Yeah LOL
now to check after the soonish update to see if its there as well
i wish someone would make a chrome theme like AE styled
if only
maybe i could get something like that on opera idk
@acoustic osprey is there a method without loosing/disconnecting the internet to stay in the BIOS so I can show it to people and try out stuff on stream?
Can you elaborate on the first options for me?
eh it sometimes works
sometimes when i go into the QA server
it stays forever
with and without turning off internet
lemme get a clip going one moment
Thank you
I never got that. Is there much to find and show?
not truly
besides the games
Did you guys dive deep
Huh
No videos, lore text or like documents?
Goat_gobbler.exe right?
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Thank you so much
the final bit
can't actually send it in here as actual text 😔
marked as inappropriate for some reason lol
huh
ohhhh it's the type of lettering that's why. yeah the bot will ding that because people will spam images with symbols
yeah
i keep seeing your attempts to post it get deleted lmao
lol
So you are just double clicking a server?
yeah
Thats all?
i will be stuck for like 5 minutes no connect or disconnect i have to task manager or alt f4 haha
Thats wild
the update has been released?
no this is lore stuff
oops, I got confused
all good
i cannot forgive
INTRUDER!

This is a clip of all the commands I can see in the command terminal
all these minigames are hard as hell
lol
oh i didn't know that was a scroll bar (at the end)
woah
why did i think it was dondi making chicken noises
lol
plot twist, it was actually Lightclaw making these chicken noises
so how did u guys manage to get the password?
oh
the white hampter seen lots of stuff apparently
Yes
found something in the loading screen after i saw a video on youtube
yeah im never going to be able to play one of the mini games
great movie by the way, The Castle 💪
Did you guys get it lol i can’t figure out from these convos
oh doomie 🙁
how many times do i have to tell you, we found it!!
technically found it
we know the password
but would you say we found it?
because of datamining...
We did not find it 😔
how do u know it has been datamined
from who
ohh so someone without patiants solved it the unfun way
is it at least still secret to most people or have they been running their mouths and spoiling the fun
ruined the fun of everyone in this channel atleast
i hear password was datamined 💔
Frustrations aside, i really thought the password was going to be something really cryptic
Wasn't expecting something so simple lmao
do the gates number mean anything?
either im still tired from waking up... but TD randomly mentioning how bushes look and something interesting being there
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starts at 3:45, randomly mentiones bushes after talking about group UI not working
"Pay attention in mind, and i want you guys to take a look at what bushes look like in that build, and uh, see if you can find those bushes in game for me."
just as an identification thing i believe
Every time I try to enter the minigame, the game goes to the server before I can apply all the commands. 
apparently joining the qa server will result in a longer connect time, more time to enter stuff
So is the password is here
sometimes i really wonder what the hell AE was thinking bringing back deinosuchus
kaprosuchus
who doesnt want a big alligator
big gator 
It's probably one of the easiest things to make to be quite honest

Nile croc + gator + big = supersized crocodilian
They started out as an ag company... and animals naturally shape the environment around them. Perhaps they ended up leaning into that concept on a larger scale? And then expanding from there?
imagine all the cool aligator skin swag they could sell
any reason why thats there
bugs
That is either a camera or a lamp
the isle
there is also one on the opposide door but to the side with the keycard reader on the other side of the door
Isle
yeah that big crane thingo has had a bunch of those since gateway was launched
presumably some models that have nothing on them
its like the docks never left
forgot the term
where does this agricultural company 'origin' story come from
Psure it was one of the many Don quotes from in here. Rumple might remember unless I'm crazy
it be botany not agriculture
but i really wonder
did i do a video saying agriculture or maybe did we say something on the podcast
or just someone misremembering way early on
(the agriculture part comes from Don then saying they went into food. But not food out of dinosaurs)
funny seaweed
(and hunting some BIG gators down in The Reserve)
Nah not out of them no. Imagine a trike or cama tearing up toxic foliage/trees (looks at the concepts...) and making things more habitable for humans. But we also dont know the full context of what is going on in this facility as to its purpose, right?
Living bulldozers that are made resistant to the environment, and then expanded upon to keep them under control via predators, which then got expanded upon into weapons/strains, etc.
Which would also explain why its been said humans wont eat dinosaur meat
Oftentimes companies will try to milk every ounce of money and use out of everything they can
giant crab
crab law
potentially expanded upon into weapons/strains
strains are an interesting aspect
I remember Don saying to a reply from Daltonious that Dalt missed the mark but hit the target with the idea of strains for medical reasons
But what made it hit close? In the context of what Dalt theorised... we don't know.
Interesting
medicine? thats a new one. Good to know!
(technically it be a bit of an old one now...)
i believe it was from late 2021
or sometime in early to mid 2022
a whiles back now
ye
Did you guys find the quetz in that image Don showed off on stream last time btw
I screenshot the image but as it was on my phone it’s not the best quality
My best guess was here.
WHAT. NOBODY TOLD ME OF THIS??
It got sidelined because of the terminal password hunt.
That’s what I thought too
It does appear to be it
I can’t find another higher-quality picture to cross-reference. Here’s the original (unedited) screenshot if anyone wants to take a look.
did we found the password?
welcomeislander
Yeah someone datamined it

extremely cring
I lowkey just bump them together into the same thing
#isle-lore-theories message Yeah that's what I guessed too.
yeah its thanks to your post that i believe its quetz
❤️
could you dm me the password i am curious about it but dont want to ruin it for anyone else, that is if you know at least
What was behind the password? Like what happened when you guys put it in?
form a new dondi stream?
i believe you go to a mini game
i need to get twitch so i can proactively see them i feel like i am missing out on so much by not seeing them
lol is that it i thought it was like a dino run rip off with isle assets but in 2d
with like isle music blasting
theres two games
found something in the loading screen after i saw a video on youtube
lol
Was hoping for some lore or something
Like files we could read
But this is still cool
yee it’s cute
It’s still a wip
amarok’s little easter egg project
soon... hopefully
I want the rexes sheet
soon...
now i wonder maybe we might have to put another code into the Terminal itself
I don't think that would be their 'human' names, if they are truly EIPs
and if anything
they probably don't even know / realise that they have these nicknames
I don't even mean that
Like Shirley is one rexes name, baron, chick (or smth like that)
ye
INTRUDER is its name (name has no gender to it, so could be any)
TREX.10-S.001 [INTRUDER]
So he's not intruder because he was scaring animals away with paleo noises? He's just...intruder?
could be the name given to INTRUDER because INTRUDER was doing things like that
currently, we've seen both SYNTHS and natural born only with names though
so it may be likely that they give the names beforehand
and it was just a coincidence
Duke kind of makes sense too
why ATLAS?
Strength...responsibility...theres some connection
He carries his family
His world
more so strength and burden
Well...eh
then responsibility
but i do see what you mean
And duke makes sense coming from someone high and mighty like atlas
Same with intruder and salt
ah true
although i think something more on the nose would make sense
like "NOBLE"
But Baron's gotta be a big boss to have that name
Ye
At what timestamp does Baron show up in the trike vid I can't find it
Barons were pretty much the lowest level 'feudal lord'... in europe (sorry)

let me check
Well...also a powerful person in a business/industry
So what is Baron a bum then? I mean he did scavenge on Atlas
(who wouldn't)
relatively ignore this
i think more so how, like, earlier feudal systems in Europe worked less off primogeniture (which we saw in autocratic societies of late medieval Europe / Renaissance periods) and more so partition
Partition would have it so a ruler would split their total power equally amongst their children when they die
thus, ultimately, splitting the original kingdom/united lands into varied, practically autonomous states
and so each child is equally (roughly) weaker/less powerful then their father/predecessor was
i don't think Don would've thought of it like this
but ATLAS being a 'titan' (from Greek Mythos)
and his son being BARON
Kinda makes sense metaphorically
Baron realistically only has SALT as part of his herd (way way smaller then what ATLAS 'had')
and can be seen, though, as someone who came from a more powerful noble family
Huh
of course, BARON definitely has the time to rebuild or make anew
ohhh it is the given name? interesting name
yes oopsie
these new names have been confusing me a lot lately
let me fix it though
actually no it doesn't work that great as a metaphor then
Dukes were a lot more powerful
You'd imagine Dukes, especially in places in the HRE, being as if Kings
Dukes had a large amount of power
But i suppose if you take it like this #isle-lore-theories message
makes sense still
going from a name coming from a greek titan
to a monarchal title with a fair amount of power
ye
all the [NAME] bits be the funny nicknames
nickname or names
i suppose both work 🤔
like with AUGUSTUS
It seems like his ID (which was 174)
was used more
rather then just saying AUGUSTUS
BUT that could just be because AUGUSTUS is a longer name
auggie
would be funny
but i think they wanted a bit more formality lol
Isaac do you know when Baron shows up in the trike vid
Trying to see the skin since we don't know who showed up at the end
oopsie sorry
All g
screw the formal science name let's nickname them lol
get everything written in Dutch so it can look funny #isle-lore-theories message
oepsie woepsie! Auggie hit the damn camera :((
k
yeah
5:17 / 5:18 ish
and then we have the Rex at the end
hard to say if that is truly BARON or INTRUDER with unknown offspring
hard to tell with the lighting but maybe baron and a slightly older peeps?
Yeah it was definitely baron at the end
probably
my only
thinking moment with it is that it shows the Rex having to do a Paleo Call (but from afar)
and the INTRUDER audio analysis page pops up for a second
is is the intruder page?? ooooo
ye
basically it is either INTRUDER
or BARON
(or unknown REX...)
both have their own more unique lore implications
still wondering if it's blood relations between intrudie and baron
probably not, but maybe
BARON and INTRUDER are a version apart (INTRUDER is 3.1.2 and BARON is 3.1.1)
so probably not direct genetic blood relation
but that depends on how versions work! Which we don't really know how
maybe.
I don't think so
but could be
i believe the version numbers are there to dictate their genus version
I do not believe that they can 'upgraded' whilst being alive, as if a pit stop
but even though I do not believe it to be so, it could still be true
i just see it less likely
if so, then it could be possible
at most half siblings
don't think that is possible
(INTRUDER is a Synth. So made directly from 'the machine' - the replicator)
ah ok
which i believe BARON to be as well
let me check his whole name
sooooo machine sibs
ah
we just have 006 [BARON] for BARON
so might not be a SYNTH
however
it does come from the Trex Injection Video (as we see the frame talking about them. Presumably because the video was glitched, that other videos glitched into it. Which this seems to be the case)
so presumably, BARON is likely the main injected Rex (or one of the main ones)
Which could make it a synth
but I don't think we really know if 'injection = SYNTHs'
mmmm i would assume it's human injected? like vitro maybe?
the 'injection' is more like a physical injection into the environment
think of how the Dibble herd were injected into the environment in their video or the Trikes in this (although, this video being mainly observing the behavioural mutations. Less so the migration patterns of the Dibbles)
Ah ok
no wait
not migration patterns
nutrient metabolism
Interesting way to say injection
Or to use the word injection
It’s more of an introduction
yeah
one would, if they played legacy unofficials a lot, imagine that it would be relating to injecting you into a body
like how, in legacy, you would 'inject' into a spino (for example)
Yeee i know of the legacy injection bot
quite so
anything interesting found in update or just chatter
nothing in terminal
I should probably go to the human buildings and see if anything has been added
but at this moment, i be relaxing with xmas music
hi
hi
Ok
How the hell is it already 4:30 am
Gen 1 sentience discussion, are the conscious or self aware, and does that one trait determine how they should be treated
gen one are the mutated right?
I think they just look like that
oh-
uhhh maybe they're aware?
or maybe they also have to evolve awareness
maybe they have a brain closer to an animals than human?
Well you got to think, gen 1 are humanoid, and look like they could have roughly human sized brains, and that combined with EIPs could mean a number of different things
Would it be more natural for the eip, could it adapt faster, learn quicker
Does it make a difference in if they “go feral” or remain cognizant
Ciao
wtf
anyways
maybe it's more primal like early nethandreals
where they have cognition but it takes them trial and error in order to learn
Mhm
they have to watch their surroundings in order to survive
We also know they sacrifice things to the replicator, I’m really excited to learn more about that
ohhhh that reminds me of like the really isolated tribes
Imagine getting one of those archive videos of a gen one dragging a dryo in front of a camera the replicator uses to monitor assets and killing it, that would be creepy
similar to Polynesian tribes, almost similar to the cannibal tribes and their rituals
interesting i wonder if they see the dinos as deities
We know they used to be planned (in terms of development, not in lore) to worship the replicator, but now we aren’t sure if they’re smart enough to worship
oooo ok so then i think they would possibly see dinosaurs as deities especially if they were to witness it in action
maybe they can tell the difference from synth and injected?
That would be interesting
I could see that being a gen 2 thing with dino trackers and such if they repair the correct system or something
Gen 2
Apologies
gen 1 probably would go off patterns and distinct features
i wonder if synth cannibalistic dinosaurs have been made
Friends I must take a small break to visit Morpheus. I will return later today to continue.
See ya don, rest up
time for don to rest
Synth is just the label for made by the replicator iirc, so in game there’s plenty of examples
bai don sleep well!
ok so it's entirely possible that a pure white dino was replicated and witnessed. I'm sure that would cause any tribe developing early beliefs to consider it a god
or maybe that triggered belief in a higher being entirely



