isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

6pm 🕺

not my sleepy time yet!!

[limber sparrow]

Much appreciated

[acoustic osprey]

no worries!

[merry zodiac]

Ah i thought it was later mb

[acoustic osprey]

Legacy had a big thing where a lot of things in-game reflected the in-lore

[acoustic osprey]

i forgive you this time legrion

[acoustic osprey]

so in this case
the player (the steam profile) was converted into a thing (from the game to the in-lore) as EIPs or just simply Profiles

[limber sparrow]

Yeah I remember the good ol days before evrima with all the speculating

Hope that comes back one day, especially with some new major human settlements getting added

[acoustic osprey]

🙏

[limber sparrow]

Like that new 'arena' (which i honestly think is a massive enclosure instead of an arena)

[acoustic osprey]

i do wish we got more lore papers and the such

only thing we know that exists and is coming is a lore vid with rex in it

[limber sparrow]

👀

[acoustic osprey]

oh definitely, IF anything it may be three enclosures as well that likely had a lot of water (probably for semi aquatics potentially)

i like the funny term The Pits for it

[limber sparrow]

It is a massive pit tbf lol

[acoustic osprey]

maybe we'll get a proper name or designation for them in the video...

[limber sparrow]

Hopefully

[acoustic osprey]

was painful to get out the first time i stumbled upon it haha

[limber sparrow]

Also something I remember reading in one of the lore papers is that there is feathered gallimimus that aren't omnivorous

Hope we get to see those one day

And also supposedly arent psychotic

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!

its likely one of those neat things mentioned
that just... forgotten about into obscurity for the time being

[limber sparrow]

Yeah :/

Pretty dissapointing

The lore papers are honestly super entertaining to read, what few we have

Hope each species gets one some day

[acoustic osprey]

Agreed

[acoustic osprey]

Apparently more glance sheets were made and were supposed to be at the new GUTS hub

But....

[low scarab]

But.

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-disappointed-food-review-meme-gif-16003613

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-gif-3016400040181561805

[hallow ruin]

?

[torpid roost]

new swamp tunnel entrance?

205,879.445, -69,885.012, 20,353.503

[fast forge]

nah that's been there

[muted reef]

I wonder if that new giant enclosure is gonna be a nesting ground

[hexed forge]

Doubt so

[nimble fractal]

Guys

I have some thoughts to share

[hexed forge]

What is it

[nimble fractal]

From the code name
TYR.12-S.003 [SHIRLEY]
We can see that there were at least 3 rex specimens that should have existed
Combine that info with the newly added 3 containment pens on the southern part of the map
There is also a broken fence between two pens - perhaps, by the strongest tyrannosaurus with the intent to murder another (guess having the biggest free space to roam around was not enough to keep it form attacking - it WANTED to kill)

[hexed forge]

But why would they be placed in a containment area mostly filled with water

lol

[nimble fractal]

Filled with water?

[echo gazelle]

is that a new area?

[nimble fractal]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Yes,
All three of the containment areas seem to be made for creatures that are semi-aquatic

[nimble fractal]

How so?

[hexed forge]

Its... been filled mostly with water..

Water has been drained

[nimble fractal]

They could be easily repurposed though?

[hexed forge]

'gates' made for water to pass through, not the traditional gates we've seen

[hexed forge]

I dont think they would've repurposed it.
If they did they would've changed the gates to something more suitable.
Plus the destroyed parts of the walls are HUGE, no way a rex could've done that. Nor any creature that we know of

[nimble fractal]

Let's be honest, the broken fence is there so we can just roam in and out of all 3 pens

[hexed forge]

Exactly

[nimble fractal]

However

I'll stay at my point of view till we get more info

Going crazy over the slightest hints
...lore.

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[hexed forge]

https://apolloterminal.net/ Test

Now the website is no longer just a link

Neat'

If any admin sees this could we please get the website pinned in here. 🥺

[acoustic osprey]

who is that guy!!

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/lighthouse-the-lighthouse-wake-laugh-wake-laughing-gif-16420751

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-the-sun-dark-souls-gif-5640777504984441459

i got a feeling if someone successfully replicates 1000 times
something or nothing will happen

[snow jasper]

Expended

Who knows

EIPs are something that I want to comment on, but simply cannot

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kot-cat-uh-huh-reakcja-gif-6504404546294738355

[snow jasper]

I want to see "lab rat" experiment videos that are borderline animal abuse IN-GAME and be left to evaluate something or other
Make me feel the horror in more ways that are just:
"oh wow, deinosuchus done got me there haha"

[hexed forge]

'Why dinosaurs?'

'We had to avoid animal abuse laws in one way or another eh"

[snow jasper]

even then, im sure animal experimentation goes on illegally and unchecked in the modern world as it is

[hexed forge]

thats true

[acoustic osprey]

it was something people thought Khorne and Galli did...
somehow accessing 'the console'

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

[acoustic osprey]

show 90%
hide 10%

[snow jasper]

it does feel like we know more about the 10% than we do the 90%

[acoustic osprey]

and seeing as Apollo has a ton of subsidiaries
I wouldn't be surprised if the 10% is mostly AE stuff

[acoustic osprey]

oh definitely
that 90% stuff is probably very soft and just generic 1st word 'money making' things

good old pharmaceuticals etc

[snow jasper]

keeping track of company names is going to be a pain

sometimes it feels like AE is an umbrella term one day, other days it isn't

[acoustic osprey]

makes me wonder IF we'll know more about the outside world (other than rival companies and peoples who have attacked AE)

[acoustic osprey]

https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZWIyZGpmOWhmeHdxYnNscXgwaG95bDF0bG0zanVoOG45bG9nMjQ1byZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/ZvGM1uyxoBXcx35G64/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[snow jasper]

To some extent, maybe

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose it's hard to write up corporate 'lore' lol

especially to portray it in a video games

besides like 'these guys in this division of AE didn't know this other division about their project' (seeing as we know something like this may/has happened and written by Don)

i think there is a name for it

[hexed forge]

lol

[snow jasper]

the isle: storymode

[hexed forge]

Never!!
But we’d all love it

[snow jasper]

is the isle's "ending" at the end game with a strain or something
or is it finding out about the island/company's given status

Dawndi, tell me more!

I need an explanation

[hexed forge]

Well uh
For most folks it’ll be getting a strain

[snow jasper]

emotionally devestate me with your brainwaves dawndi

[acoustic osprey]

i wish

[acoustic osprey]

that one twitter poll!!

[snow jasper]

lol

[hexed forge]

I hope we get UI stuff this devblog lol

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[hexed forge]

But seems like this one will be very short seeing as how.. yeah

[acoustic osprey]

we'll definitely have a VisualTech thing

but UI would be amazing

[hexed forge]

Probably an explanation on the GUTS issues

[acoustic osprey]

ha...

[hexed forge]

Hopefully

[hexed forge]

Transparency!!!
Oh this is the isle

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[acoustic osprey]

No worries

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/kang-the-conqueror-kang-variants-many-kangs-multiple-kangs-kangs-cheering-gif-13082239200333412930

[hallow ruin]

dondi ban this guy

[hexed forge]

Oh

[hallow ruin]

we still need dondi to confirm if the scars are canon...

[frozen totem]

I think it's just aesthetic dog

[hexed forge]

Gotta wait for the lore video

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[fast forge]

I agree

[tardy valley]

nah they're stretch marks

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wheezy-gif-1197693694066191278

I have hope mainly because it's more evidence to what Entombment/Replication is.

If it ends up as just an aesthetic then it's a missed opportunity imo. 😔

[hallow ruin]

makes absolutely no sense ngl

[frozen totem]

ok

[hallow ruin]

just an opinio

[hallow ruin]

i mean, its coming WITH the entombment/replication update.. i dont think its a coincidence

[hexed forge]

No Rex coming with Elders is 100% a coincidence set up by the 5.6 setbacks

[hallow ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/charmander-cas-van-de-pol-cas-van-cas-van-gif-8546999337266071804

[woven trench]

What were the 3 strains again?

Hyper, thal something and something else I think

[lethal moat]

Hyperendocrin, tissoplastic, and neurotenic

[woven trench]

Awesome, thank you

[ornate comet]

BEN STRAIN

[fast forge]

I think the simplest explanation is that it's just aesthetic

We don't have much lore stuff to focus upon right now, so I feel like people are finding anything they can

This one really doesn't seem to have legs to me, but I could be wrong

[acoustic osprey]

Oh

[hexed forge]

thanks

[acoustic osprey]

I suppose Visual was not going to be doing it

I am not going crazy though
He did infer he was going to be in it

Oh well

[hexed forge]

Im not calling you a liar Isaac 😭

I know he said it
Just the statement didn't keep up

[acoustic osprey]

I know

It got to the point where I was half guessing myself

But yeah
Not even GUTS mention

[low scarab]

Wrong chat oops

But uh we got word the character sheets are approved

[acoustic osprey]

I want to hope this means glance sheets

new dinosaur design documents have been finished and approved for implementation

But i doubt it
When and why would a programmer mention such

[low scarab]

I mean I can’t guess what else it might be referring to?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-aoi-todo-crying-best-friendo-jjk-gif-13677067473840256480

[low scarab]

Exactly

[acoustic osprey]

Our luck!!

[hexed forge]

I have a slight suspicion that it isn't referring to the glance sheets but oh well, we can only wait.

I assume they won't be implemented into GUTS since theyre kinda broken

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah same

[acoustic osprey]

I HOPE Don can just ignore this and put them in pre-existing buildings

[hexed forge]

yes

He definitely should

[hexed forge]

But like, weren't they finished months ago..?
What was the specific quote maybe Im wrong

[acoustic osprey]

Like I suppose it'd only be dino glance sheets
Which yeah....

But then I would say maybe put them around the areas with DTAs or admin points like on top of a GUTS opening tunnel checkpoint (not really a Hub... but having a sheet in lore there would help with knowing what is coming through GUTS)

[acoustic osprey]

At least a few were done
I'd have to find the quote again but it may take awhile because I'm on phone

[hexed forge]

I.. cant search... from:.. anymore..?

https://tenor.com/view/batman-lego-batman-sad-batman-batman-sad-lego-batman-sad-gif-23101702

[solar bluff]

@solar bluff

[hexed forge]

Are you able to use the search tool??

[acoustic osprey]

On my phone, yes

[hexed forge]

Oh its because I had streamer mode enabled lmfao

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[hexed forge]

Thats weird

[echo gazelle]

🙂

[acoustic osprey]

Hi luncha

[echo gazelle]

ello v2022

[acoustic osprey]

Are you able to pin the cool and neat lore website

[echo gazelle]

which one

[acoustic osprey]

This one if possible

[hexed forge]

DTAs and checkpoints make sense yeah

[acoustic osprey]

If not, that is ok

[acoustic osprey]

Definitely !

Honestly
I have a pseudo theory on why they won't put them in yet

Which might revolve around Filipe (programming) and UI

[echo gazelle]

Oh, don’t see a problem with doing so

[acoustic osprey]

🙏

[hexed forge]

thank you!

[hexed forge]

Yes!!

[acoustic osprey]

Much appreciated!

[hexed forge]

What is it

[echo gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/american-dad-seth-macfarlane-matt-furie-pepe-brett-gif-5990656706447553156

[acoustic osprey]

Where I think they might make something where if you find a lore doc
You can press E to interact

Which may save a copy to EXTRAS in the main menu

There is nothing supporting this besides just hopes and dreams

It is just neat and allows us to read lore without the low resolution of the in game asset

And without having to ask Dondi to post in phase 3

[hexed forge]

That would be neat yeah... maybe put that reading mutation to work too

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah
Instead of reading, maybe just interacting

There isn't really any way I could imagine reading them in game without having a weird pop up for the dinos

For gen2s
It would be sick if they would appear on your PDA as well while in game

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[hexed forge]

Oh yeah most definitely.
Maybe have like a 'scanning' animation with the PDA, if it even has a camera lol

[acoustic osprey]

That would be neat

I wouldn't mind though if interacting with it though with a dino or gen2 would just say 'saved' though

But for pdas would be great too

[hexed forge]

mhm

[valid geyser]

image grabbed for you lore people
feast on this little
lil
small resolution image

[nimble fractal]

we feast

We are eating good this month

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks

Seems like he is using the ue5.6 tool for better weathering

Honestly it looks like wet cement

[frozen totem]

I don't doubt it being something of the like

Could be programming them to be collected/ viewed in some way

[acoustic osprey]

ye

HOPEFULLY more than just being in-game
because none of them would be readable lol

[frozen totem]

or at least barely

[acoustic osprey]

oh definitely

[frozen totem]

Just read the fine print

[acoustic osprey]

like if you look at the image Don sent of the beipi one
its roughly A4 size

you would likely only be able to read the title properly

[hexed forge]

Yeah you’d probably be able to ‘interact’ with it since it somehow involves Filipe

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

i hope they put proper effort into it
it doesn't seem too complex of a thing, hopefully

[acoustic osprey]

Cerato:

Offtopic, but,

Don, would we be able to find the glance sheets of dinos that we didnt get a glance sheet of before?

Don:

Yes.

@hexed forge here we are, only a few hours late

no proper specification

[hexed forge]

Oh okay then

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-comfort-pikachu-caterpie-gif-17203018

i hope, whenever we're fed, it is good

[snow jasper]

So much in the way of lore has been created since the last drop we were given so I am in quite some bit of anticipation despite all the doomerism lately.

Just knowing that there exists videos and glance sheets is nice

[acoustic osprey]

it's likely one lore vid and one trailer vid, which might be a good sign

instead of having a lore vid as a mix of a teaser and lore

but still, quite so

also not to ignore that Dondi has made a whole 'timeline' document of basically everything one (dondi...) would need if they, say, wanted to make an official story/thing out of Lore

-# 'timeline' more like official document of terms, things, events, etc though

[hexed forge]

Yeah

Just unfortunate that the GUTS hubs broke, they would’ve been great with this HT

[acoustic osprey]

PLUS two protocol documents made by the time of Halloween

[acoustic osprey]

quite so... 🫠

at least THE PITS enclosure area at South is really neat, especially for worldbuilding

[hexed forge]

Troodon incident report victims

[acoustic osprey]

I'm writing anomalous incident reports, which is just my fun way of talking about dinosaur abilities in the narrative setting. Most of it is spent humanizing people that aren't relevant to multiplayer just so you want to read.

The vast majority of the troodon's takes place with audio transcripts of interviews and snippets of personal journals over a short, but unspecified amount of time. So you'll get what people think they saw at the time and they wrote down vs what they recall much later when audio interviews occurred. There's also specific notes jotted down amongst the scrabble of factual information that's cross-referenced with island utilities such as cameras or when biotracing is created, so you can be like "Dohoho it wasn't an error! " instead of left completely wondering.

I haven't had characters spring up across multiple reports.

I need it!!!

oh i forgot about this

when biotracing is created

[hexed forge]

DO NOT CALL THEM PITS!!

Go for the full legal name ‘Semi-Aquatic Species Containment Area’ or smthn 😊

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-i-need-him-anakin-skywalker-darth-vader-anakin-i-need-him-gif-18259732

added it to the lore document though

should be good:

South Plains Tri-Enclosure: Located at the southernmost point of South Plains. Appears to be a Semi-Aquatic Species Containment Area. Contains three walled enclosures, each is mostly filled with sand, with some grass - the sand areas contain large metal drains.

[hexed forge]

Yay

[acoustic osprey]

woohoo

[hallow ruin]

oh wet effect when its raining/after rain gonna be SO immersive

[ornate comet]

Interesting how the fresh spawn Rexes also have the scars

[hexed forge]

mhm

[acoustic osprey]

if it is wet cement

they might just be going for a more exaggerated weathering

like more than these artworks

(hopefully more greenery)

[lethal moat]

Lore

[barren ruin]

finally some love for my favorite too dumb to die fish

on the topic of coelacanth in the isle though, do you think AE made them taste any better? or did they use research on these fish to deter people farming dinosaurs by giving them the same gutwrenching disgusting taste?

[fast forge]

It kind of is lore. I might be looking too much into this, maybe someone just liked coelacanths

But modern coelacanths live in the ocean, sometimes very very deep. And yet in the Isle we see freshwater coelacanths, something that actually existed in the mesozoic. This cola machine kinda confirms that the freshwater coelacanths aren't incidental to AE

MADE WITH REAL COELACANTH

[acoustic osprey]

I noticed it as well and was so shocked
It looked so similar to the original red Cola marketplace lol

I was like has this always been there!!??
Then thought to myself why would a marketplace asset have something like this on it

I am glad we're getting the custom vending machines in

Never expected it to look like that though

Wonder what the next may be

[hallow ruin]

i was just saying it by the way

[prime bluff]

What creatures even are the dinosaurs in the lore? Since dinosaur dna is too old to extract

Did the scientists just made the creatures to look like dinosaurs based on a mix of current understanding of palentology and a mix of inaccurate 90s palentology?

[lethal moat]

The replicator makes the dinosaurs, but that’s our current theory more or less

[prime bluff]

Are they even dinosaurs though?

[lethal moat]

Not really

[prime bluff]

Makes sense considering dinosaur dna is too old

[lethal moat]

My favorite comparison is that dinosaurs are actual dinosaurs in the same way an ai generated picture of taylor swift is an actual picture of taylor swift

[prime bluff]

Interesting lol

I wonder though if the company that made these things had plans to open up theme parks or atleast safaris for tourism purposes and lie to the public that they brought back real dinosaurs

[lethal moat]

So far we know of hunting for profit related to that

[prime bluff]

Wonder how world governments handled this company in lore

[prime bluff]

Makes sense but I wonder if they could be used for other purposes too like illigal pet trade and stuff

Not out of the realm of possibility some rich guy in dubai would want a omni raptor or two in their underground bunker as a pet lol

[acoustic osprey]

Is this so

[hallow ruin]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

hmm yes

[young viper]

is this part known yet?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[young viper]

dang

[acoustic osprey]

been there for a bit of time now
was surprised nothing changed this HT with it

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-comfort-pikachu-caterpie-gif-17203018

[queen elbow]

where on the map is gateway located?

[hexed forge]

We don’t know
But popular theories suggest southeastern Asia

[queen elbow]

why there

is there any evidence?

[hexed forge]

The AI iirc

The species of goats and the crabs that are on Gateway are from that region, or the boars. I don’t remember exactly

[nimble fractal]

Isn't AI placeholder.....

[hallow ruin]

Ai are placeholder store assets lol

i'd rely more on flora

[nimble fractal]

You meant flora?

[hallow ruin]

yeah my bad, i mix them up a lot

[wintry yew]

Eucalyptus and acacia trees in southeast asia

most, if not all of the flora in the isle are not from there

[acoustic osprey]

great image by someone from lorecord

oh better to forward it, a bit more context
from ThePaleoNerd12

a good amount of flora (pre-HT, so i am not sure what has been added / changed) is from south america and south east asia

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h-hOsGnGZgbqUNI0-vu6ii-YtUM_D-sgfn1TfVw1d-g/edit?gid=0#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ndGwm91slHf97wzYnTsRljJwSOmsTspq4xWDoEC6U04/edit?gid=0#gid=0

made from one of these docs
pretty sure it was the 2nd (both by TheJollyRaptor)

[wintry yew]

So its either SA or ASEA

[acoustic osprey]

maybe...

if it even is on our 'earth'

insert the isle dondi twitter post: "Earth (?)"

[fast forge]

I think the entire island is a mashup of extinct and extant plants and animals, and plant origin analyses won't tell you much about the isle's location - it's not the native ecosystem anyway

[hallow ruin]

the scary truth...

[patent ginkgo]

I agree

(Also the acacias and bald cypresses don’t even have the right leaves)

[wintry yew]

yeah the cypresses should have needled leaves, but for some reason it doesnt

Gateway also appears to be a tropical volcanic island so its weird that conifers are there

[wild palm]

Hows the ping dudes?

[patent ginkgo]

Not necessarily

Tropical conifers definitely exist, bald cypresses being one

Also a ton of less needle-y ones

[wintry yew]

thats cool, i was aware of the existence of Podocarps. But didnt know taxodiums could also do well in the tropics

[fast forge]

I wouldn't call them tropical, personally. They are native to the southeast united states, a warm climate but still considerate temperate

[wintry yew]

I mean like, outside of the US. There are some Taxodiums that are doing well in South Africa for example

and also Australia

[fast forge]

As for my larger point...
As a thought exercise, imagine if we tried to use the elite fish to determine where in the world gateway is located. For E. fish we've got

• Channel Catfish
• Coelacanth

So by this logic we can say for certain that the isle is either in continental north america, or deep under the ocean

Nah really the island is a giant bio research facility, and the organisms on the isle are a weird mashup, often including plants that can't even survive on a tropical island (looking at you, Trillium)

[wintry yew]

baobab tree for the isle

[median shuttle]

would be gorgeous in the highlands

[plush widget]

Mhmmmm

Where do we mostly see brutalism

On Mars movies

Heh

The isle is on Mars

[waxen shard]

I was feeling bored and browsing around when I saw something interesting: a Utah standing on a Willys Jeep. This made me wonder—why is Apollo using such an outdated jeep from the 1940s? They clearly have the resources to create dinosaurs and build massive facilities, so why rely on an old jeep model? Maybe they're just being cheap and opting for the most affordable and readily available vehicles. know it is from Legacy so it may be outdated.

[lethal moat]

Probably easy to maintain and rugged enough yo survive the terrain

[rapid chasm]

vehicles from the fortys lack parts

they r a ticking timebomb if your using them in operations like this

[lethal moat]

Unless you are able to manufacture your own

[rapid chasm]

Why would you utilize a vehicle from the fortys when theres better vehicles fit for the job

[lethal moat]

Fewer parts, you don’t need as specialized people in order to maintain it, and the parts are simpler and cheaper to produce

[rapid chasm]

def not cheaper to produce

your rebuilding the parts from scratch with a simple example

[lethal moat]

Even if you own the entirety of the assembly process?

[rapid chasm]

You have to pay people

to produce these things etc, even though machine manufacturing exists its still a super new technology and expensive

Literally 3-5 billion dollars to build a factory and outfit it

It'd be cheaper to just buy a bunch of land cruisers and modify them for duties

lets do the math

assuming we're buying landcruisers in the ninetys, the MSRP of a 1996 model having a base msrp of 40,258

and lets say that AE required fifty of these vehicles, without modifcations, raw from the factory. Apollo will modify them in house with existing parts and contracted mechanics

50x$40,258

Thats 2 Million USD, significantly cheaper than building a whole new factory to produce a old chassis from the fortys

[waxen shard]

It seems like they are just using whatever they can find

And god forbid at how expensive they'd be to maintain

[rapid chasm]

Why would you not equip your company with state of the art kit

[waxen shard]

Exactly, why wouldn't they

With all those expensive facilities, you'd think they'd buy better cars.

[rapid chasm]

land cruisers are pretty reliable in tropical conditions

[waxen shard]

I mean the Willys jeep

Land cruisers are way better

[low scarab]

Yk what would be cool is if we could find shipwrecks on the coast or in the ocean somewhere as a semi aquatic

[hexed forge]

That would be cool but I wonder why there would be a shipwreck in the first place.

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[lethal moat]

Boat

[hexed forge]

what

[river marsh]

Food for thought: tractors that are old enough don't require license plates. I don't see any on those vehicles either. Might simply be a way to mask assets.

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[acoustic osprey]

ship

[acoustic osprey]

could be many reasons, honestly
random or with purpose

[acoustic osprey]

i believe the lack of license plates might just be because they're not necessary for AE's owned islands

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/choking-gif-18241023091515446173

[acoustic osprey]

one does not simply refer to ships as boats!!
so i had to correct!!

https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZWIyZGpmOWhmeHdxYnNscXgwaG95bDF0bG0zanVoOG45bG9nMjQ1byZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/ZvGM1uyxoBXcx35G64/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[acoustic osprey]

hi

[river marsh]

could also be true

[frozen totem]

storms, mosa(depending on the size of the ship), Hyper Spino

[rapid chasm]

serial numbers

[acoustic osprey]

would exist

built into the vehicle

[rapid chasm]

ae specific serials

[acoustic osprey]

that is, if AE are making the cars

would be interesting

[rapid chasm]

every company that has a fleet of vehicles has company specific serials on them

[thin vine]

@acoustic osprey hi do we know why dinosaur

i vaugely remember dondi mentioning we already know why dinosaur but i do not recall if we actually do

or if its just something we're collectively overlooking lol

[pseudo lantern]

we don't know why dinosaur yet..,.

just that making dinosaur is closely related to making plant

[gaunt dawn]

Sneeble

What the #%$@ ARE YOU DOING IN HERE!!!

[pseudo lantern]

i am a lorian

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message Yesn't

[thin vine]

#isle-lore-theories message

unless this is in reference to his "Unfortunate but nessecary" but thats not really a 'why' lol

[acoustic osprey]

Not every, but companies can buy fleets
Just not sure on how serial embedding works

[acoustic osprey]

Hahaha...

We don't know a proper in lore answer

And the supposed answer may have been what you refer to and or a few other examples that I do not remember off the top of my head

[thin vine]

his answer specifically just makes me think that we have the pieces of "why dinosaur", we just havent figured out how to put it together yet

[acoustic osprey]

However, we have never really been given a proper answer that really communicates it properly which is why we don't really know if Don was misrememberimg or not

[acoustic osprey]

I'll be honest as well
I do not think we have enough, besides going over every theoretical possibility of why lol

[thin vine]

true

i also wouldnt be surprised if there was just one little fact that hes keeping from us that wraps it all together in a nice little bow

[acoustic osprey]

Which hurts
But is why we have been trying to promote the idea of hard vs soft lore

[thin vine]

like one day hes gonna come in here and say something and its going to click i think

dondi pl e a see

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[hallow ruin]

i remmeber a 2021 qoute that these will be used
but its old, so yah

[acoustic osprey]

I think I might remember
But here is a similar quote

Also found this gem

[hallow ruin]

WOAH!

[hallow ruin]

dude... WHY DOESNT DONDI SAY SUCH STUFF ANYMORE 😭 its just vague short qoutes now...

[acoustic osprey]

sometimes i think it is my fault
but like, no. Probably not.

It is likely just a culmination of The Isle's PR slowly moving around and changing and how the (lore) community works in here

because we have to be honest with ourselves
we look at the past with tinted glasses

i remember days where Don wouldn't say anything then come up randomly with a gif to a random persons message in here

then days where it was terribly radio quiet (especially from 2020 to 2021)
then days on end with new info

i think it is just a 'problem' (better to say side effect) of getting more lore out of lore via the 'author' (Dondi) himself
rather than from the medium that the author works in

we definitely have expected Dondi at times to be some sort of readily avaliable angel that'd be able to answer anything we want — likely a problem of having such a close and proximate way of communication in contrast to how story creators of the past would deal with 'fan' interaction

there kinda becomes a point where we get to an 'anti-exhaustion' of lore
which is fair. We haven't gotten anything substantial in quite a while, which has been a bummer

it definitely 'hurts' a lot more because of how Discord works, which kinda feeds into the more dopamine-piled systems of today that needs constant content to consider some sort of enjoyment and satisfaction with a product.

[hallow ruin]

💯

[hallow ruin]

agreed, but how would those deal with fan interactions? im curious

you kno whats the problem

if the game had actually active lore
yes, taking lore from the author would be unhealthy, boring and spoiling the fun

but.. this game really had no real lore more than 2-3 subjects that are just side stuff in the span of... 6 years?!?!?

im not hating on the game, ik its early in production
im saying dondi AT LEAST gotta put something to feed our need of lore.. IN GAME not in discord qoutes

honestly, even tho "lore hunt" was a bit wierd and out of place to some point

but it still did insanely help to just.. make the game feel more alive

"more alive" ^
i meant lore-wise

[acoustic osprey]

sadly, basically stopping connection would be the best bet IN my opinion

once you stop that immediate and very poisonous line that is discord
you basically stop expecting to been given things on a more faster and personal level

allowing Dondi to actually communicate lore through lore and not needing to answer every Lore QnA

[hallow ruin]

💯

[waxen shard]

That's good then

[fast forge]

I wonder if we'll get something fun for halloween

NHJ zombies again would be cool

I hope we get something else too, but it's been a bit of a busy year it seems, so I don't expect much

Even just some insight into NHJ

I did have a thought about strains

What if there is a strain catalyst - a special chemical or virus or something - and it turns you into the strain, but only if you are strong enough and have the right mutations

But anyone without those mutations is unworthy, and it doesn't end well for them

So like NHJ could be a neuro strain without the right muts, so it just decays and eats away the body instead of making you stronger

[merry zodiac]

Or just some strain sightings

[frozen totem]

#isle-lore-theories message Why is AE attempting to reverse a naturally occurring phenomena in the first place? Although I suppose this just lends itself to AE trying to play God and control nature

[lethal moat]

There’s a regular pace at which climate change takes place, this ain’t it, and we took power in an ice age, we’re better suited to that

[frozen totem]

yeah sure human impacts have sped it up, but we by no means caused it. And to say AE is "Saving" the world from something that was going to happen anyways is a bit silly imo

[lethal moat]

We’re talking a scale of decades compared to hundreds or thousands of years, we don’t have the time to adapt, so AE would be fulfilling that need

[frozen totem]

I suppose I could see AE trying to slow the process in order for easier adaptation from wildlife

[lethal moat]

Or just supplanting the wildlife with something that can take it

[frozen totem]

AE Guess and check method

[fast forge]

Look, I'm a scientist.
There is no doubt among climate scientists that anthropogenic climate change is real. Scientists have been talking about this for nearly 100 years, and even in the 1970's the oil corporations learned this fact and tried to hush it up because they knew they were a major culprit

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/gulp-cat-gif-27257259

[fast forge]

Pumping tons of carbon into the atmosphere - you can't just pretend it does nothing

And I myself know a bit about deep time and global ecology, and what is happening now is very unique, and very concerning. We are at the start of a new mass extinction, and we can 100% direct how this extinction will take place

[snow jasper]

Nah, we cant redirect it in my opinion

Im not saying that to be a doomer but, the start-up cost for us to replace non-renewable with renewable sources will emit more C02 than if we just used up the oil from the ground. And by cost, I'm talking about the construction and gathering of resources.

Wind turbines sound good until you realise they only last 20-30 years, require tonnes of concrete, rare earth minerals in the machinery which have to be excavated using machines that already emit C02 and destroy the environment.

Hydroelectric Dams, destroy environments, HUGE start-up costs, which I haven't got to explain because they look expensive in and of themselves.

Solar Panels, require rare earth minerals in the technology they use alongside maintenance and are probably the only efficient renewable energy source in my opinion.

Geothermal energy isn't an option because only unique geographic areas like Iceland are able to utilise it.

So aside from that, you have Fission and Fossil Fuels (Fusion reactors if you're Chinese) of which the Fission reactors are certainly a better option as waste is manageable as what they do in Norway by burying it underground.

Human driven C02 emissions make up a relatively small fraction of all C02 emissions, and an even smaller portion of that is everyday use cars, which I believe is around 15% of the whatever percentage that makes up all human driven CO2 emissions.

around 95% of all C02 emissions I believe come from the environment anyways

Im pretty sure that there is nothing humans will be able to do to reverse or slow or redirect climate change whatsoever

[fast forge]

I meant in the sense of amelioration. It's coming, regardless

[snow jasper]

The impact may shave off a couple years, but nothing we'd ever notice

But yeah, it is inevitable

[fast forge]

Yeah I meant more of the extinction stuff. We can save many species if we work fast and make good decisions

[snow jasper]

Now you mention it, it does concern me specifically with the reduction of insects in Europe

I used to grow up around a lake that had fireflies every year, unfortunately they dont exist in that area anymore

[lethal moat]

Invest in sunscreen now

[snow jasper]

Too many wronguns polluted the lake with rubbish

[snow jasper]

Sunscreen isn't what you should invest in, invest in air conditioning

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-ac-funny-air-conditioner-hatsune-miku-miku-gif-4970056766708436603

[hexed forge]

this is true

[fast forge]

yes I see fewer bees these days myself

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fat-cheeto-hvac-mobile-driveable-ac-oh-yeag-oh-yeah-gif-16249385875329148594

[snow jasper]

I find it tragic people may never experience fireflies

[merry zodiac]

Nor the sight of the milky way

[snow jasper]

or any insects for that matter, or even birds

[snow jasper]

this too

[fast forge]

I've never seen a firefly

But it's probably better, they are not native here

[snow jasper]

rip

[acoustic osprey]

we need solid state lithium batteries

[fast forge]

Who is "Industry Senior Leadership"?
Edit: Ohhh it's oil industry folks

[sweet marsh]

Just curious why you said fusion reactors if your Chinese?

[lethal moat]

China has a rapidly advancing nuclear program

[sweet marsh]

From my understanding the Californian and French labs are currently ahead tho correct?

[lethal moat]

Dunno, I don't follow it too closely

[sweet marsh]

I suppose it dosent matter because fuel limitations will limit fusion reactors substantially

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah
From the 70s or 80s

[fast forge]

I was at work and distracted when I first read it

[acoustic osprey]

We've actually being going over environmental communication this semester a lot

It is really sad how much of a corporatocracy we live in

(i hate my phone)

[acoustic osprey]

(woops, excerpt from: American Petroleum Institute, 1998, April 3) 90s

hence why APOLLO ENGINEERING IS the solution

Allow Apollo Engineering to guide our future to a future that actually will strive and survive!

[acoustic osprey]

(and even with that, Edward Teller had warned the american petroleum institute about 'climate change' ... more so the physical and worldy effects of carbon dioxide increase in the atmosphere ... way back in 1959)

response? Exxon public affairs decided best to:

emphasize the uncertainty in the scientific conclusions regarding the potential enhanced greenhouse effect
(from 1988 for example)

it's just sad

Australia prefers to subsidise the fossil fuels industry, with minimal profit gain (most of these companies aren't Australian and barely pay back to our economy)
over Australian education and safety

makes me curious on how serious Dondi may want to play with the idea of climate change from the hands of Apollo Engineering

I mean, the naming of AEs "Apollo" is almost a jesus / saviour character
Apollo IS the golden boy in Greek Mythology

Apollo may not have been the Roman (technically Persian) Mithras ||who was basically the Roman Jesus before Jesus||
Apollo still contains the attributes of a famous and profound character in mythology (and very godly, not human ... unlike Jesus)

taking the position of a god-like name and attributes, it certainly may be that AE has some sort of ego.
We've definitely talked about this before ... but it does excite me. IF Don wants the Apollo symbolism to quite infer AE's position and status as the literal people with god-like powers

[snow jasper]

to my knowledge, china is the only country with both fusion and fission reactors

[median shuttle]

<@&933486433342222376>

[sweet marsh]

No country in the world operates a commercial fusion reactor, only experimental fusion reactors exist of which the labs in California and France are currently the most advanced

[snow jasper]

No, I'd argue China's "Artificial Sun" is one of a kind
It was on the news earlier this year

Either way, I believe Nuclear Energy is THE energy of the future

[sweet marsh]

Of course but even then it didnt self sustainment and required more energy to start unlike NIF the only facility to break through that barrier, the only notable thing thing about EAST was the record setting 17 minutes of plasma containment

[sweet marsh]

Of course, but fission is the most likely candidate until the fuel requirements are met for fusion which will likely involve the moons deposits

[low scarab]

yk what would be really cool (and possibly even intended in the future) would be instead of just clicking entomb and dropping dead on the ground wherever you are. you would go to a certain structure maybe different labs across the island you would sacrifice yourself to the replicator and be entombed with some sort of animation or something. it also gives a final task i guess make it to X location alive

[acoustic osprey]

Cool, but for a multiplayer game would be too convoluted

And turns those specific places into bottlenecks as well

[river marsh]

I wouldnt be surprised if that got used for a very different purpose where if you fail to escape tribals and they sacrifice you they get something...

[acoustic osprey]

(this)

We knew that the tribal pits were replaced with altars in like 2022/2023
so i wonder if that is still the plan

knowing temporary abductions will be a thing

[river marsh]

Yeah. Wasnt there one on r2?

Some sort of stone circle/altar lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-satanic-satan-star-led-gif-19113956

[fast forge]

The old concept art for tribals makes me think it's Gen 1 capturing other Gen 1
But I don't know how well that fits the gameplay

[acoustic osprey]

oh there may definitely have been ideas of Tribals versus Tribals versus humans planned

would've been interesting

(we do know the temporary abduction stuff was in context against Gen2s as Gen1s)

[fast forge]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

but i would not be surprised if they brought Gen1s going against Gen1s as a thing too

[fast forge]

I just remember art of a humanoid in a cage

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as different gen1s may see other versioins of Gen1s as inferior or just plainly different therefore competition to kill / go against

[acoustic osprey]

yea

[grand sigil]

however

[fast forge]

yes this one

[acoustic osprey]

sacrifice for the better good

[fast forge]

how did I misread that as "sacrifice for the butter god"

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-the-sun-dark-souls-gif-5640777504984441459

[lethal moat]

BUTTER FOR THE BUTTER GOD
GLUTEN FOR THE BREAD THRONE

[fast forge]

[grand sigil]

old isle concept arts and the concepts that existed we never got to see in old isle in general were something that was too good to exist so the world decided to balance it out and give us a watered down isle . . .

no offense but old isle in theory is the coolest thing ever

not old isle itself, but what it would have been

[crude plover]

i think the lore is just the same as jurassic park, and there were tribes in jurassic park in the lore

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[acoustic osprey]

what could it have had been

[crude plover]

can i download that file?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, you should be able to on google docs

[grand sigil]

what it IS in an alternate timeline where we got rodrigo vega™'s the isle™

[crude plover]

ok thanks

what if the dinosaurs were just made as a bio weapon of war

[lethal moat]

Disproven

[acoustic osprey]

but Gen1s on the other hand
not really for war, but definitely a lot more of a weapon it seems

[crude plover]

oh, well im kinda new to this place so sorry i dont know to much lol

[acoustic osprey]

it is ok, i forgive you

[lethal moat]

I still want to see a gen 1 outfitted in kevlar

[acoustic osprey]

if that ever happens
I want a funny looking medieval armour mod for them lol

[crude plover]

i use to play this game back in 2019 2018 and i just got back

[lethal moat]

"Why is there an armory in the back of a containment cell?"

[crude plover]

is there a vc so we can talk about lore?

[lethal moat]

Lorecord has some

[fast forge]

We know they were "Unfortunate and necessary"
Whatever that means
I personally think it's rebuilding ecosystems after climate-caused ecological collapse

[lethal moat]

Probably

[crude plover]

do you guys want to?

[lethal moat]

I can see AE outfiting gen 1 with weapons like metal claws and the like

[lethal moat]

I'm not in lorecord and not particularly

[crude plover]

do you guys wanna talk in vc 10?

[acoustic osprey]

and maybe an easy way to bypass any sort of generic animal laws
maybe

[acoustic osprey]

i would but i am technically in a lecture at the moment lol

[crude plover]

oh

anyone else?

[acoustic osprey]

if no one is able to but you still want to listen to something
i'd recommend a few YT videos / the podcast (!)

[crude plover]

ok thanks

[acoustic osprey]

https://open.spotify.com/show/4nkw9nPzbZDfhb0k4LL8F3?si=7aba300301ab4612
and the podcast

[lethal moat]

I'm prolly never gonna get time to do that again if you'd like to remake that, I have all the episodes saved to my PC if you'd like to reupload them to a new channel

[acoustic osprey]

😔
but yeah, that would be nice!
I think we may continue or 'redo' maybe long in the future or once we start getting more lore

who knows

podcasts are weird

[lethal moat]

Nvm, looks like I only have the second season saved

[acoustic osprey]

ah

[lethal moat]

I've really just had my desire to interact with allthat killed, and I'm busy all the time, so it just keeps getting pushed further and further down my list of priotities

[crude plover]

do you guys think the game takes place on an island

[acoustic osprey]

thats fair

[acoustic osprey]

just maybe

[crude plover]

if the game took place on the main land we wouldv seen citys or somthing

and there are boats i think

[lethal moat]

I'd like to see some residential areas for the game

[fast forge]

It is "The Isle" after all

[crude plover]

true

[acoustic osprey]

the villages at ae-001!

having any sort of residential areas would be sick

[lethal moat]

I can't wait to start clearing multi level buildings as a human

[acoustic osprey]

i kinda would imagine most villages being near or at GUTS / GUTS Hubs / GUTS check points for ease of transport

but, in a perfect world we still have working GUTS and a monorail track around the map

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-the-sun-dark-souls-gif-5640777504984441459

[crude plover]

will humans get shotguns, thats something i heard

[acoustic osprey]

yea!

[crude plover]

and other weapons

ohhhhhhhhhhh niiiice

[acoustic osprey]

the one in the discord banner (SPAS-12)
and others like the one showed by Rumple

[crude plover]

will humans be able to kill each other too?

daaaaaaaaaaamn thats sick

[lethal moat]

Ye

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
but will they made to cooperate or fight and make mafias? who knows

we'll have to see

if this helps though
DayZ / Tarkov 'gameplay' inspiration

[crude plover]

sweat!!!!!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/berm-ron-ready-or-not-swat-explosion-gif-8532084739413819645

[acoustic osprey]

also doubling down on Spiro canning 😔

probably best to put any videos with Spiro as basically not canon but may be reworked for lore

[crude plover]

will their weapons be stationary or is it just like body cam?

[lethal moat]

It's first person view

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/client-pleads-oopsie-daisy-oopsie-daisy-oops-oopsie-russian-badger-gif-6154377781408649679

[acoustic osprey]

^
(we do have a body cam effect on admin/replay effects, but will that go to gameplay for Gen2s? who knows)

[crude plover]

no i know but is the gun handling like cod or day z?

[lethal moat]

Dayz

[crude plover]

With cod you have a crosshair

oh ok

[acoustic osprey]

bullets will likely be projectile as well

and yeah, no crosshair. This won't be a competitive FPS (without mods)

[crude plover]

willl there be an ak or somthing like an assault rifle?

[acoustic osprey]

what Rumple showed above is basically all we've seen
we may get one though

there may be some sort of quote confirming it or not though

[crude plover]

ok

[lethal moat]

I doubt it, Dondi said something about people being too efficient with automatic weapons, but that was a good while ago, so things might have changed

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[stiff lintel]

I love it

[acoustic osprey]

we shall see
honestly i don't mind having just pistol, shotgun and rifle

that has a nice survival vibe to it

[crude plover]

was the rex just added or is it still in testing?

[acoustic osprey]

public testing at the moment
so anyone can play

but not officially implemented into Evrima branch

[crude plover]

ok

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 exist for a reason, let them do defense stuff, the weapons gen 2 have access to should be more for specific uses, shotgun and pistols for self defense, rifle because tranq darts and the like

[crude plover]

you know what will be cool, finishers, when a player is about to die the other player can do a finisher

[acoustic osprey]

agreed

[crude plover]

you know what im saying?

[acoustic osprey]

having overtly military stuff does seem unnecessary

[acoustic osprey]

would be cool
it was talked about in around 2022 and 2023 by kissen

[crude plover]

oh

[lethal moat]

It's a genetics company, maybe outsource security to another Apollo company

[acoustic osprey]

||Apollo Red!!||

#isle-lore-theories message
reminded me of this now

[crude plover]

is ae out of business or still operating?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gregor-that-depends-whos-askin-who-is-asking-gif-22526456

[lethal moat]

I like to think it's still operational, just not on the islands that we play on

[acoustic osprey]

we don't really know

[acoustic osprey]

i do agree with this
operational but basically no control on select or most or all islands

[crude plover]

how did the breakout happen?

[lethal moat]

We don't know, likely in part to sabotage and oversight

[crude plover]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

we aren't sure on specifics
but long story short

do not imagine what AE is doing is seen as the greatest of works by some, if anything the work of the devil

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ultron-sorry-i-know-you-mean-well-i-know-you-mean-well-mean-well-think-it-through-gif-22337787

[crude plover]

is legacy still part of the story or when evrima came out they restarted?

[lethal moat]

Legacy is gone

[acoustic osprey]

part of the story? no
but will and have some topics and ideas come back from legacy? yes

[crude plover]

ok

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, bit of a shame

[lethal moat]

I'd like to see some training material for new AE employees

[acoustic osprey]

😔 soon...

all those documentation papers... soon...

i really hope a majority are put in-game

[lethal moat]

If you see a naked humanoid outside of a specialized containment area, seek shelter, bar the door as quiet as you can

[acoustic osprey]

DIAL 0 for OLYMPUS

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-phone-no-gif-18261966

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

https://tenor.com/view/praise-the-sun-dark-souls-gif-5640777504984441459

[acoustic osprey]

why aren't they picking up!!!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-death-gif-23505693

[fast forge]

at first I thought it was a light... is that a button?

https://tenor.com/view/press-it-american-ninja-warrior-climb-up-going-up-wall-climb-gif-20020002

[lethal moat]

Some sort of access valve maybe

Or just a post

[acoustic osprey]

Technically it is a bunch of pipes and a light on top

Quite weird

[subtle goblet]

I love that drainage pipe as a rex juvie, it's a fun place to jump into the water

[lethal moat]

https://youtu.be/WtyDj7EsqSM On the topic of easy to maintain vehicles from a day or two ago

[barren ruin]

turns out it was actually a boeing crash but they managed to blame it on AE and got rid of the whistleblowers, the world saw what happened to the survivors on the island and now its left as the property of a locked down company (joke theory)

[acoustic osprey]

https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZWIyZGpmOWhmeHdxYnNscXgwaG95bDF0bG0zanVoOG45bG9nMjQ1byZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/ZvGM1uyxoBXcx35G64/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly
Isle vehicles kinda look pretty modular as well

Nothing complex or unnecessary
Anything that should be needing a fix easily replaceable or adjustable

I suppose it makes me wonder if these are Apollo made / owned / commissioned

[snow jasper]

This is doable with almost any and all technology possible, but it'll never happen because the world is full of greedy corporations and businesses
Phones, Laptops, Computers, Vehicles, Even houses are all capable of these easy to make prefabs that come together like lego pieces
(never will happen, even though the cost would be unbelievably cheap)

I believe it was google that came up with a phone concept similar to these sorts of jeeps, only difference being is that you could fit other features and mix and match them. Want a larger battery? Buy it and reassemble your phone at the cost of a small camera. Want a larger camera? Swap it out for this...

I would love a modular tech future which actually has the user in mind

combine it with the illegalisation of planned obsolescence and the future actually looks bright

thats my rant over

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

[acoustic osprey]

although, technically PCs are pretty modular!

[snow jasper]

comme ci comme ca

[acoustic osprey]

cosi cosi

hekk u hekk

the only problem is casing

[snow jasper]

yes 😞

[acoustic osprey]

now lets hope Apollo Engineering shares our same problems and implements within their islands and sold products around the world!

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-pubby-party-dog-dance-dog-in-shoes-dancing-dancing-dog-gif-12869739532609810342

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-cat-in-the-hat-that-couldve-gone-better-gif-21119823

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-enter-leave-bye-gif-16118048

[acoustic osprey]

hi

[snow jasper]

hi

[lethal moat]

hi

[fast forge]

hi

[hexed forge]

hi

[ornate comet]

hi

[rapid chasm]

ye4ah but super modular stuff is terrible

[acoustic osprey]

you can probably guess why

[rapid chasm]

really now

[acoustic osprey]

having modular pieces isn't that cost effective for the capitalist mindset

[rapid chasm]

to a point having something be modular isnt effective at all

[acoustic osprey]

via such mindset

[rapid chasm]

not even; look at the various failed modular phones, houses, etc

[acoustic osprey]

and? These failed the capitalism quota
typically start ups with minimal high competition lead to lack of innovation and slow progress on the specific technology

[rapid chasm]

they are super complex technically, clunky, expensive, and lack consistent demand

[acoustic osprey]

leading to poor / low quality assurance in their product

[rapid chasm]

I dont see how thats related to modular stuff get 2 the point

[acoustic osprey]

there is no benchmark
and so most get easily destroyed but other and more developed similar markets

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
because^

[rapid chasm]

this is completely false

[acoustic osprey]

how so

[rapid chasm]

modular stuff saves money, increases efficiency, you can reuse it and future proof it

[acoustic osprey]

if you assume i just mean 'too expensive with money' then you are assuming wrong about my sentence

which you have, i see

[rapid chasm]

it improves waste management, and factory settings allow for more consistent and higher quality builds reducing defects and allow the producer to sell it for more money

[rapid chasm]

You literally said capitalist, capitalists prioritize money.

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so, but that still assumes the most forward-thinking of the sentence
Capitalists don't magically make/produce something and get money

there is a whole product chain to be considered

[rapid chasm]

Yeah a whole product chain

[acoustic osprey]

then why don't we use a lot more modular systems in our lives? is the question

[rapid chasm]

Your not making any money because theres barely any consistent demand

[rapid chasm]

for example, theres this modular car that is utterly useless and my dads truck can do everything its modules can do

the only good use of modularity is in aircraft and military first line kit, like weapons, helmets, belts, plate carriers etc

[acoustic osprey]

modular systems are stuck away and are way too late for the socio-political world we live in
if modular had came earlier, way earlier, maybe we could've been more efficient in this society - especially with how easily fossil fuel companies lobby in governments

[rapid chasm]

Yeah let me make a modular factory real quick

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, basically impossible 100+ years ago

'we' literally have too much money in one bag for these systems to be invested in properly

we being the select 0.1% of people on this Earth who hold the most wealth, almost all coming from or relating to fossil fuels

[rapid chasm]

the thing is, modular stuff is TERRIBLE sometimes, stuff consistently fails if not installed properly,

[acoustic osprey]

and if you 'Apple'd it, these systems could easily become as easy as an Apple phone

but doing that takes time and money
RnD

and no one wants to invest in a product that may not work
especially since you'd be going against already WELL established literal household names in most industries

[rapid chasm]

Nope

[acoustic osprey]

really? so no one can innovate ease and simplicity in modular systems?

[rapid chasm]

The stuff we have already is simple to modify. You can change your battery in your phone already by popping the cover off, you can easily change your phones systems

[acoustic osprey]

and...

[rapid chasm]

you just need to know how to. If i watch a 12 second youtube short telling me how to do this, i can do it

[rapid chasm]

Thats what modularity is

and its already sucessful

[acoustic osprey]

thats great

but that is not the point lol

[rapid chasm]

Yeah so you dont know what your talking about

Yes that is the point dude

[acoustic osprey]

i am talking about technology with modular components now?

and not MODULAR technology
technology made with modular in mind as the core philosophy?

i think you misread me then if so

[rapid chasm]

That is literally a modular component

[acoustic osprey]

please read my message deadbush :/

[rapid chasm]

Your keyboard is modular. You can swap the buttons out. You can load up the settings and change the keybinds for it.

[acoustic osprey]

i am not talking about phones simply with modular components

[acoustic osprey]

but modular as a core philosophy

[rapid chasm]

'I am talking about technology with modular components now'

[acoustic osprey]

(the question mark as the end is supposed to be rhetorical/figurative)

[rapid chasm]

Then dont say 'I am'

because that implys you are

talking about that subject

....

[acoustic osprey]

look, i don't want to go into semantics becuase semantics is stinky

but it is supposed to be a rhetorical element

[rapid chasm]

Either way modular technology already has uses in certain areas

modular housing has failed for a reason

[acoustic osprey]

that's great

[rapid chasm]

same with modular phones, vehicles etc

there isnt consistent demand and its expensive and complicated to put together

[acoustic osprey]

so you would agree with me then? (with my original point)

-# not posing this as a gotcha or anything
just seems that that sentence agrees

[rapid chasm]

Your original point was not agreeing with me, so no. I do not. Capitalism favors modular things, HOWEVER, consumers do NOT due to zero interest, high costs, and the fact that some of the uber modular stuff is useless and breaks half the time

[acoustic osprey]

i see
However, these two definitely share the same sentiment - especially in the subtextual route - , whereas yours is definitely more detailed / explained

HOWEVER, consumers do NOT due to zero interest, high costs, and the fact that some of the uber modular stuff is useless and breaks half the time

having modular pieces isn't that cost effective for the capitalist mindset

[rapid chasm]

mind you, modular stuff excels in certain fields, I'd really love to see a modular construction belt with various attachments (like what the military has with battle belts and such).

[acoustic osprey]

more modular would be great

i wish the world, especially those who pull the strings, to see life as if it is life and not all product and capital

which is definitely something that makes me curious on what Apollo sees in the climate crisis

do they actually see the climate / the world around them?

[young viper]

what if, when the game is completed, they make flying fish a AI strain so it can stay

[acoustic osprey]

woah

[kindred bobcat]

omg lore

[lethal moat]

https://youtu.be/vlQ32RvPzDs Dino holy war vibes perhaps

[ornate comet]

this has nothing to do with isle lore but I just need to get this out. STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, at least one fish species at some point in history owes itself to being sucked up by a water spout or a tornado and flung into an isolated body of water were it can speciate. IM NOT INSANE GUYS TRUST ME

That is all, thank you for coming to my ted talk

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[ornate comet]

why are so many people becoming clippy pfps

[iron anchor]

to protest against overreach by online megacorps or something along those lines

[wintry yew]

is it doing anything though

[hallow ruin]

well the fact that you just saw and found out about it is something

joining it is another thing
and the more people being aware the more those corps realize it aint a random trend but rather an explosion out of years of pressure and waiting

[lethal moat]

It makes people feel better

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows
But taking a stand is good

Basically every youtube video has people in the comments with it

This is good

[hallow ruin]

guys i think i got news, not very important tho

i believe the scars are sadly not possibly canon at all

why you may ask? this skin is completely grey/black, only red male crest
if you notice, theres brownish wierd colorings that dont tell its grey at all.. but well.. it actually is

so like, what could the be? these are the gore mask... the belly/neck/tail browns are the gore areas where the body gets opened
IF the scars were intentional it wouldnt actually show the whole gore mask

there is like 1% chance its intentional
but it'd be stupid honestly (cuz of how not very well done it is)

[frozen totem]

guys maybe it's just to make adult tyrannosaurs look more weathered and hardy

[nimble fractal]

Can't be it's 1000000%%%% hidden lore 11!!!!

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-confused-jimmy-butler-confused-eye-squint-gif-12144635464811342257

[formal mural]

@regal horizon

https://tenor.com/view/a-barbershop-haircut-gif-12154339648694543149

[jolly python]

could I possibly get that skin code tho?

[acoustic osprey]

Really hoping the green lighting tint will be used more like in the concept art

🤞

This was a surprise to see though, shame i was away for this part of the stream

It is kinda sad seeing some of the teased models from the Hubs and GUTS being 'repurposed' in these new areas

With the green lit area though
Originally I thought it was just the same building as in Thr Atrium and Docks

But the exterior entrance is clearly different

So it is interesting to see that room being used more
I do believe it would be used for MCAM and TCAMs

[hexed forge]

It’s just a dev map

[acoustic osprey]

I know

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[fast forge]

cat

[hexed forge]

.
I don’t think they’re being repurposed, it’s just a dev map where they just throw all the kits from whatever and see what they can make probably

[acoustic osprey]

Green please

[acoustic osprey]

I know
That is why I quote and un quote the word

[acoustic osprey]

It is likely most of the assets from these modular sets were used on other modular sets as well

[hexed forge]

Indeed

[fast forge]

cola canth

[acoustic osprey]

But we know and have seen
That most of the modular pieces are built on test maps first

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/coelacanth-living-fossil-gif-26621112

[acoustic osprey]

I wish we saw some new ones! But oh well

One vending machine at a time

Honestly i think the biggest issue with human base lighting

Is that the lights are far too much like spotlights
And less like generic wash lights

[muted reef]

Can't wait for UI update ngl

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

[muted reef]

Gonna completely change the vibe of the game for me

Will finally feel like every aspect of legacy was left behind

[acoustic osprey]

oh definitely

i bet it'd be crazy jarring at first, especially the main menu and character menus it seems

but, i am really down for it

from what we've seen, it is nice and i like it

[muted reef]

Yeah

Mix of the futuristic sleek look and old apollo look is gonna be nice

[acoustic osprey]

mmmmm

[muted reef]

I'm guessing everything in game is gonna be the futuristic look and everything out of servers is gonna be old

Maybe the replication screen may be the monitor look

It already kind of looks like a low quality version of it

[acoustic osprey]

out of servers?

[muted reef]

Menu, picking servers, skin creator

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, potentially

[muted reef]

Actually picking characters is the old look

They showed off that

Idk I think when you are actually playing the dinosaur is the only time you see the futuristic look

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
I don't think much things will have a full on futuristic look

especially since most props in-game are pretty 90s and 00s tbf

but i suppose it all depends

when are we playing
when were these islands being used properly

etc

[muted reef]

I kind of wish they didn't do the futuristic look at all

It would be pretty hard to incorporate that old look into the hud tho

[acoustic osprey]

in my opinion, this:

I don't think much things will have a full on futuristic look

there isn't really much of one honestly

unless you're referring to the industrial brutalism design of the buildings

[muted reef]

This

They mentioned that while it clashes with the retro look they think they made it work

[regal horizon]

@formal mural

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-family-guy-thank-you-love-you-hi-gif-12458842

[acoustic osprey]

honestly
I wouldn't say that is overtlt futuristic imo

[low scarab]

I personally think it fits pretty well

[hexed forge]

I like it but idk what’s going on with the diet symbols

[acoustic osprey]

Supposed to signify that diets isn't just the standard nutrients one may intake

[knotty locust]

alpha

breakfast

yveltal

[hexed forge]

So we’re gonna get more diets

[acoustic osprey]

Exactly

[acoustic osprey]

You don't remember the convo we had with Don after Roon brought up not understanding it?

I'll bring up the quote once I'm home

[hexed forge]

Nope

I’m about to go anyway, I’ll read the quote when I’m back from school

[acoustic osprey]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

Oh that's right lol
Enjoy

I am trying not to die from stress from uni
Woohoo

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gmail-pibble-mulch-frenchie-gif-15443669033024525467

[acoustic osprey]

They won't only come from plants and other animals, though. You will come to embrace the change.

Not two steps ahead of you. You're theorizing on a fraction of writing mistakes I've already made and had to correct in some fashion.

Animals will intake nutrients in other ways and from foreign plants and materials.
And so carbs/lipids/protein doesn't really translate in that fashion.
(#isle-lore-theories message)

...

Wouldn't that be neat? Photosynthetic Flesh. Translate direct sunlight exposure to minor [insert active nutrient] gain.
Some strain plant somewhere.

[nimble fractal]

Strain plant 🙏

[acoustic osprey]

yummy

me when i eat the metallivore and get the metal nutrient

[nimble fractal]

Eat metal to become stronger 🔥

[fast forge]

iron

[iron anchor]

<@&933486433342222376>

[lethal moat]

Iron within, iron without

[grand sigil]

i'd like to see the smaller dome model return in a future map
is it possible they would make a "non-canon" official map

[hallow ruin]

oops i made it quickly then reset 😅 it shouldnt be any hard trust me

[hallow ruin]

what concept art?
also dude i was SO SO happy the green vibe was having at least a brief return. loved it in legacy, gave a very wierd depressing yet natural swampy eepy vibe for the isle and its lore and lighting back then
idk how to explain, but it feels special

[lethal moat]

These https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347232022757642251/1347236149512507423/IMG_6826.png?ex=68bfa530&is=68be53b0&hm=fdb7f6e46200e5a22ab7beffba7bb3f1f64c7cb1b1966b0e928e00646c8ca2d8&

[hallow ruin]

isnt that yellow?

[lethal moat]

I’d say it’s greenish, but I can absolutely see where you’re coming from

[hallow ruin]

please. lmao

[hexed forge]

Wohoo

Deino players need to make sure they take vitamin D

[fast forge]

https://youtu.be/rdhuEAl-PtQ?si=3jvcfAxgC6Y14upR

[muted reef]

I wonder how far down the line strains and strain plants are

[acoustic osprey]

Probably a bit down

[muted reef]

As in along with something like spino or we talking all the way out in late game land

[ornate comet]

Idk if they would wait until spino since if I remember the redwood trees have strains

No redwoods until spino would suck

[muted reef]

Not every redwood tree is a strain

There are is a type of strained plant that is redwood based though

[ornate comet]

Arborburst isn’t it

[muted reef]

Yeah

[river marsh]

im curious if dinosaurs will physically display they are under the effects of different plants or not

[ornate comet]

That reminds me

What’s the protein orange mushroom that spawns in swamp called? Because back in spiro if you ate it you would get spams if it’s not on your diet

Is that still a thing

[river marsh]

I don't think so. Herbivores don't get spasms if they eat the wrong things. it just doesn't give nutrients. I forgot that used to be a thing

[muted reef]

They probably will

[young sphinx]

The Rex looks so cool

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

Or ArbourBurst
Yay

At least
We know that ArborBurst can be strained on Redwoods
May be other plants as well

[visual timber]

I had a thought, So Baryonyx is One of the Upcoming playables and Austro is also in the Works, what if the Pits Housed Baryonyx and Austro? So far a lot of worldbuilding correlates to upcoming playables

[hallow ruin]

deino/bary/austro/spino playground (yes spino is also SoonTM)

[nimble fractal]

Chanterelle shroom
I swear I was eating them as a non-diet food on Gateway and still was getting spasms

[hallow ruin]

it had very wierd status too

something along the lines of "may become crazy"

"having visual halluciantions" or wtv that thing said lol

may start hallucinating

[hexed forge]

si

[fast forge]

I remember getting spasms from chanterelles on gateway too

[acoustic osprey]

May become insane

[hallow ruin]

that was on spasms

[acoustic osprey]

from what i am reading on old isle discussions
people said they got spasms from such

so i presume it said the same... sorry

[formal mural]

it's okay

[dusk hatch]

My lore theory: Dinosaur

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/meet-the-robinsons-bowler-hat-gif-24886011

[dusk hatch]

Idk, I have the IQ of a plant... Maybe less

[low scarab]

W movie

[mystic wedge]

If you listen closely you can hear what sounds like dinosaur calls on the island. Now my theory is that they are keeping dinosaurs on the island.

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[worn finch]

Witches float... ducks float.... wood floats...

THE WOOD IS A WITCH!!!

[spiral wasp]

Can someone link me the lorecord discord? Been playing The Isle for a while but never got into the lore much, I wanna know more and where it all seems to start

Wait I didn't even check pins to see if it's there lol
(not there, rip)

[hallow ruin]

here you go lol
https://discord.gg/2eZPu3SX

welcome to the LOREcord!!!

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/freddie-mercury-queen-another-one-bites-the-dust-gif-12588862

[hallow ruin]

😔

[spiral wasp]

Ty!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-party-dance-off-chris-pratt-gif-14607309

[snow jasper]

you dont want the smoke

https://tenor.com/view/dance-happy-cool-gif-13342087

[fast forge]

At least we are sane in here...

[acoustic osprey]

Oh

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bug-griddy-bug-dancing-bug-griddy-gif-6254409927469962466

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/springtrap-sturdy-gif-5598742388546306018

[acoustic osprey]

agreed

[formal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/barbershop-haircut-quarter-dance-performance-broadway-gif-6682505804563670052

[acoustic osprey]

thanks daviid!

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-freddy-golden-freddy-tweaking-tweaking-gif-7239630623117779377

[ornate comet]

this is what the lore channel has devolved to

actually evolved, because clearly this is the natural progression of things

[acoustic osprey]

more like reverted to an old old state

lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-lightsaber-obiwankenobi-obi-gif-19677892

[acoustic osprey]

anything but civilised lol

[thin vine]

isaac was typing!

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348042377922875473/1411091735727182027/convert.gif

[knotty locust]

I wonder if AE’s construction and planning teams accounted for potential “wildlife” breaches in regards to various drainage and vent systems

[acoustic osprey]

probably a combination of architectural and security stuff plus dedicated dinosaur sweep teams

seeing as the dinosaurs seem quite free range
they definitely would've had to, potentially

why don't we see such for AUGUSTUS though?

[knotty locust]

an oversight, an underestimation

[acoustic osprey]

but you'd think they would have better security and protocol for such

given the circumstances they'd understand from making the island

[knotty locust]

“construction site manager, I’d like to know how you handled any potential breaches in the drainage systems from aggressive wildlife”

“bigass iron bars”

“very well”

[acoustic osprey]

"we call it a hyper fence"

[knotty locust]

spending 40 quadrillion dollars to construct a 24 meter tall and 11 meter thick concrete wall when a simple empty moat would have achieved the same result

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-presentation-cool-dramatic-behold-gif-4559759

[low scarab]

lol so real

Tell that to any of the writers from the Jurassic movies

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[formal mural]

"lol" lol

[acoustic osprey]

I see how it is then

[gaunt dawn]

Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-the-sun-dark-souls-gif-5640777504984441459

where art thou tartarus

[gaunt dawn]

One lore to rule them all

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-toy-story-3-lotso-mr-potatoe-head-the-box-gif-2442623136246108949

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/gravity-falls-funny-broom-grunkle-stan-lil-gideon-gif-12463483056982185536

[acoustic osprey]

poof

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doomnack-cats-cat-hungry-sandwich-gif-7705413917496015343

[hallow ruin]

guys i just got a wierd idea

i remember a qoute idk if its a speculation or an actual dondi qoute
that hypers usually starve to death in a single day

that made me think... if the "hyper" starves to death in just 1 day

that means it didnt slowly transition/grow to being a hyper
aka not like adult > elder > hyper

because if so, it wouldnt take a single day to do that, and it would mean if they starve that quick that they never can evolve to that

so like, hypers are... made.
?

probably also refers to all strains not just hypers

which again makes me think
it cant also be a specimen thats grown in a lab, like how some people before said that being a hyper is being born as one and growing it, being a BABY hyper

this also falls under same thing i said before

hypers gotta be like, printed and insta thrown into the wild (or enclosure to be exact)

i really thought hypers could live for weeks at least maybe max a month although in constant starvation
but dying in a single day is just insane, these are absolutely unstable

[acoustic osprey]

yes
that is, without any food it would die in a few days

#isle-lore-theories message

[visual timber]

Maybe Hypers and Other Strains Are Made From Entombed Creatures? They Use the Base Dinosaur And Grow It in a place like the Vats and Then release Them

[hallow ruin]

wait how
was the only 1 day qoute not real and im delusional?

okay if it dies in DAYS even tho it got NO FOOD
this monster can live a decent life, even if constantly starving for weeks

yes!! this is what i wanted!!
prob either entombed respawn as a fg hyper
or grow from prime elder to hyper, idk

[acoustic osprey]

(if constantly starving, "X" hyper would die within days as per the quote tamim....)

[hallow ruin]

bro im not getting the hang of it

a hyper is ALWAYS starving, means it eats but it needs more

[acoustic osprey]

to starve is to lack hunger

[hallow ruin]

are we talking about THIS, or a hyper thats having NO FOOD so its literally actually STARVING TO DEATH

[acoustic osprey]

you just mean with minimal but some food in its belly for the majority of time

[hallow ruin]

so which one is the normal state of a hyper ?

[acoustic osprey]

proper starving would be suffering from hunger- no food

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose that depends
when is the right time / the right state for when a creature is hungry vs full

i suppose once it expels that energy as waste
and quite literally has 'an empty belly'

what counts as a normal state for a hyper? Probably one that is fed
I don't imagine they would purposely not feed their assets

but maybe they (AE) don't care that much

that with the combination of Replication, EIPs and entombment
Maybe replicating life is cheap and easy (especially via The Replicator)