isle-lore-theories

[hallow ruin]

funny how they excused godzilla size with feeding nuclear stuff lol

[fast forge]

it's all just sci-fi magic hand waving anyway

Godzilla is very impossible, but it's fun

I feel the same way about Island Walker

I'd like it to just be a rare event or something

Maybe you see it in the distance off the coast

And on super rare occasions it strides over the island

idk it's a cool thought

I'd like more events
Hopefully the eclipses will return some day

[hallow ruin]

seeing island walker whenever eclipses happens will be a creepy event idea

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-gif-3016400040181561805

When I say "makes sense", I mean it making sense in the actual universe that the thing is in.
For example Godzilla makes sense because it's in a story/universe where extremely large kaiju/titans are the main attraction and are "normal"
But for The Isle, I really dont know how Islandwalker exists/makes sense

I have a feeling that the existance of Islandwalker in legacy was just a short gimmick to attract attention,
"Hey uh, we got this big thing!! yeah! Woohoo! Wonder what this huge creature is!"

https://tenor.com/view/minions-despicable-me-tah-dah-tada-ta-gif-12123357

[hallow ruin]

this is why i sometimes think of how simple the name is and i just think its someone that aske dondi "hey dondi what is this skeleton on the map"

and then dondi be making up "uhhh its the walker on the isle.. the island walker!"

by that i mean it got very shallow/non-existance of lore

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[low scarab]

No shot is he doing it

My 3d printer screams my name

[hallow ruin]

nah, u should've checked the context 😔

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-gif-10718565837335930049

[ornate comet]

Type of thing you see when you first enter the lava zone in subnautica

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

but it would be interesting to hear how Don may have planned for it (and also the primordial) for legacy

would've been interesting, though, to say the least

[hallow ruin]

arent they the same?

[acoustic osprey]

Hm? No

[hallow ruin]

yay

another name dondi randomly drops and gives no context for

[acoustic osprey]

(Technically dropped near the same time)

And island Walker might have been island walkers

[hallow ruin]

what does this mean

[plush widget]

Multiple

There could have been a lot of walkers

[hallow ruin]

i also walk, am i a walker?

[plush widget]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-wild-animals-forest-friends-pets-deer-gif-12084663

[hallow ruin]

anyone got a high-res image of the DNA or wtv that had CATAG and stuff

i dont even know what to say lol

i really need it
not sure if it had a background image of legacy intro, or AE logo
but if theres a clean version that'll be awesome

[plush widget]

Has catag been a gene this whole time

A DNA sequence?????

I am so foolish

[hallow ruin]

oh yeah "CATAG" was in it, a single one iirc

i was saying it cuz its the thing familiarized with it, but i mean the whole image

[plush widget]

Where could that image be found

[hallow ruin]

no clue, someone gotta have it, or i just should hope for that 😭

[hexed forge]

Makes it even worse

[hexed forge]

The Walking Dead reference

[fast forge]

it didn't click for me either

[acoustic osprey]

Multiple island walkers

[hexed forge]

why are you awake..

[acoustic osprey]

hi

[snow jasper]

hi

[hexed forge]

hi

[civic pollen]

hi

[zenith frigate]

hi

[fresh pulsar]

Yeah this was me

[acoustic osprey]

nice!!

[hexed forge]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257035917722517605/1347212813839634496/b61f8e155c8584c68f55a19ea1141180bd81120f.gif

[hexed forge]

yay

I do wonder if the "Humans" option will change

Im against the gen1s being considered as humans tbh

[acoustic osprey]

why would they 🙂

[acoustic osprey]

they're loose and very general descriptions of each character

Gen1 and Gen2 (if you take their names into account) indicate a human production
in which they would've used humans as the base idea, and expanded upon them

hence why Deino is in Carnivore
or Galli in Omnivores

they're very loose !!!!

but alas

i NEED to continue my Augustus script!!!

[hexed forge]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYWpnMDVzOHJyaXE1cHZidnRnem5mbGJnMmt2MG9xdjhlYmt4NWF1dCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3zGR6KPBYmZjLtcp6B/giphy.gif

[cerulean epoch]

Computers, TVs and stuff at the Port are all like mid to late 90s tech.

No flat screens, all CRT, white box computer towers.

[acoustic osprey]

There do be flat screens

Custom ones as well

AE Sonic

[fast forge]

gotta go fast

[acoustic osprey]

Yay AE sonic!!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-the-hedgehob-running-gotta-go-fast-fast-gif-4964355

[cerulean epoch]

That's interesting. I wonder why all the office tech is so dated then.

Were there separate programs operated at different times?

[hallow ruin]

Yay its Patrick Maney!!

[hexed forge]

Might just be that they were taking awhile to transition from old computers to flat screen computers.
Thus taking place sometime between the late late 90s and early 2000s/whenever flat screens started becoming abundant
Idk

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

[acoustic osprey]

I think this is a very interesting topic
Probably even worth a video, maybe. However I think we should take into consideration of Legacy to begin with … we had been given, in Legacy, a few time dates that we can take into consideration; the first being that renewed and active lore was taking place during 2017, we also had a user inquiry from/about Dr Vega about Tissoplastic Humans (Reapers) which had taken place in 2004.
We also had to take into consideration that we were also playing on an old 80s / 90s CRT monitor.

However, this is Evrima that we are talking about.
To note, I would say, it is not that the office tech is outdated; We can see that there are some flat screen TVs within these areas, but I think as TheCerato brought up, we can kind of see a hybridization/a mix of new-ish Tech and old tech within these areas.
Which kind of brings in some sort of idea that maybe they were in the middle of updating their systems before ‘leaving’ — which I imagine this ‘updating their systems’ taking quite some time.

This makes more sense as we know that Apollo Engineering had created their own Modular BIOS (making a ton of ‘newer versions’) and amongst other things even other computer parts as well … Although I could be wrong, we need more confirmation on that latter part

But yeah, we do have another theory-ish (more so talking point) as well
It's something that me and 1tinydinosaurs had brought up in a conversation a few months ago about potentially when does The Isle take place-stuff-sort-of-conversations … kinda about the idea of alternate timelines / augmented realities
As we do have to point out the sore thumb, a very old sore thumb, from Dondi’s Twitter, which was that he tweeted: Earth (?)

So taking that into consideration, me and Tiny had talked about (sort of) a Cold War-ish situation had occurred but where, instead of a race to space, there may have been some sort of race to bio-engineering potentially OR the US had completely won and the world turned from capitalism to pure (or some form of) Corporatocracy; not only this, but potentially likely via something like this, saw research developments out of one area (in our timeline) to another completely different field, like taking away research from rockets to bio-engineering.

[hallow ruin]

holy moly

[hallow ruin]

all of this was really entertaining to read
although, i wanna comment on the "Earth (?)" part;

even tho theres no kind of prove or clue, i honestly love to think that olympus is either a space station, where humans or maybe just "the elite" (or just AE big guys) live at and communicate with earth.. this theory is mainly connecting with the world-wide disasters and "post-apocylipse" world.. or maybe olympus is actually on mars.. humans started living there possibly?

[cerulean epoch]

Cold War era would be a really cool time period to have it in.

The tech in the offices looks firmly like that from the 90s. But I could see it being a holdover still being upgraded in early 2000s. It is comparable to what my high school computer lab still had in 2004. (The school system was very wealthy).

The first flatscreens I remember seeing were probably in the early 2000s.
Though I understand some of the tech had been around far earlier. The ones I saw were a far cry from the ones we have now, and could barely be called "flat".

The pictures you show above look like something much newer. Especially the AEsonic one, which has margins almost as thin as the television I bought five years ago. But I do think flatscreen tech evolved pretty rapidly once it got going.

[fresh pulsar]

Yay it's TS1#Austro_Supremacy

[hallow ruin]

😭

i just love ur work man, and i think all of us here do

that had to be said

[hexed forge]

yahoo

Door

This is great aswell

[acoustic osprey]

Nice

Hopefully that means better weathering
Especially to be more like the overgrown concept art

🥰

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

this is good news though

it'll likely just be showcasing that 'mesh painting' more with weathered buildings and the such, but still
if we're lucky, maybe a bit more like a new Hub area OR maybe even we get to see the Indus. Hub at the volcano in the devblog...

[hallow ruin]

nice so more variation

no more pre-made ugly LODs

[hallow ruin]

i love these, i actually did the overgrown hangar once its fun

[acoustic osprey]

no

more so that the current textures can be a lot more 'rng-looking' but also more naturally done
because VisualTech can more properly paint each wall and fall and model, etc

[hallow ruin]

i know there are alrready existing easy and cool ivy generators
although the one used in game currently is pre-made meshes
which is wierd

[acoustic osprey]

without it being all the same texture for every wall

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pibble-gmail-mulch-puppy-frenchie-gif-14527649618823227348

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rowan-atkinson-rowanatkinson-rowan-atkinson-mr-bean-gif-7140966700836109531

[hallow ruin]

wth is this pfp

[lethal moat]

Clippy

[hallow ruin]

i meant what does it mean

[lethal moat]

It’s like an internet solidarity thing about stopping trying to make everything subscription based I think? Idk

[hallow ruin]

oh thats oddly specific

[acoustic osprey]

Consumer rights

Crap ton of unethical use within big tech.

[hallow ruin]

Clippy.

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[plush widget]

Why is everyone a paper clip

Replication???!!?

Is this the isle lore?

[hallow ruin]

guys

this is absolute cinema

my wierd theory about shirley might be real

bro it actually is true 100% send me to tartarus if it turns out wrong

[low scarab]

I like seeing the clippys in here

I js hope something actually comes out of this movement

[low scarab]

Remember when I was talking abt corporations requiring id

That sorta stuff

[low scarab]

Paper clip is stopping irl Apollo

[frozen totem]

oohh fire

[acoustic osprey]

Read just above that message...

[acoustic osprey]

I fear this channel will slowly creep towards its 2020 and 2021 says soon

[plush widget]

I had read it

It was kinda rhetorical

Just wanted to say the quirky isle lore thing

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rowan-atkinson-rowanatkinson-rowan-atkinson-mr-bean-gif-7140966700836109531

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-minion-minion-girl-cyring-gripping-gif-23947866

[nimble fractal]

hi...

lore!!

[acoustic osprey]

Hi

[whole quail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-viralhog-bearded-dragon-feeding-gif-20053457

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

[acoustic osprey]

sorry but this is not isle lore

[grand sigil]

however

[acoustic osprey]

i'll tl;dr
but related to a fan-coined "Neuro-Goo" aspect
which relates to actual legacy lore that talks about 'touching' Neurotenic Bio-Materials ("TYPE-N BIO-MATERIALS")
If you do: You would be considered expendable and expunged alongside all biological contaminants
Evrima though?

NHJs
which we know relate to Neuros
and may be a re-incarnated attempt of redoing that "Bio-Material" aspect, but in a more zombified manner

someone talked about goo in isle discussion so...

but it does make me think a bit

only a tiny bit, in reference to 'in evrima or not'

nonetheless, will be interesting to see however NHJs are written about

we may never get them physically
but i can see the NHJ document being shown somehow and somewhere

[visual timber]

So i had a thought after watching through lightclaws Dibble lore video, Specifically about GW_F5. What if it’s just where the trail Cam was Originally Posted? In the actual video itself the Cam was On a Tripod that gets knocked over. So what if some cams kept getting moved to observe Behavior for specific projects? This doesn’t answer the question as to why a trail cam is in the middle of the ocean originally to be given the grid designation GW_F5, unless maybe it was used to observe the saltwater mutation in Deinosuchus or other aquatic/semi-aquatic at one point but that’s throwing a curveball. I also may just have a fragmented understanding of the lore still

[acoustic osprey]

nah dude, that is actually a really unique and fresh idea about the topic

but seriously
i actually really like that idea

although, i feel like it might (in terms of in-lore) be a bit sloppy of AE to do it (fixing the location to show the proper camera data) twice with the TCAMs

seeing as they replace the first TCAM with another
unless they're synced somehow
but then that just causes a bit of confusion (at least how i see it) with why did it (presuming maybe if it dynamically picks up location) and/or did the editors (or akin) not pick up the location if it is digitally synced?

however, the idea itself is really solid

But I think we have devil advocated GW_F5 into oblivion

HOW CAN IT EXIST DONDI!!

[elder pier]

isle lore doesnt exist

[hallow ruin]

what about quad carcha

[elder pier]

That might exist

[visual timber]

They could be Synced In Archive 7, maybe it could be a digital checkpoint for recording and Field data, maybe “Archives” Could be Different computers or Drives Dedicated to organizing data before being sent to Apollo Core which could also explain the File Designation the Trail cam footage has, it could’ve been pulled before being sent to core an example being a hypothetical Archive 3 which would Hold and Organize Genetic data and research, as for the Replacement section i personally always took that as a Repair of the same Trailcam, depending on how often supply shipments were sent to gateway it could be That Conservation of Existing material and Equipment may have been crucial my evidence for this is the relative emptiness of the cargo Containers in the Docks and the size The GUTS would have to be to run through the Entirety of Gateway aswell as the amount of staff

[visual timber]

Also lol sorry i tend to go back to stuff alot when i do anything lore related for any media

[visual timber]

Looking at the Section of The Dibble Trail cam footage where it’s replaced i did notice the trail cam number changed so that’s my bad

[hexed forge]

It isn’t a fresh idea, it was an idea that was immediately shot down by us on the first day of F5 because it seems to be too great of a mistake for AE to make. Not changing the location and such
And the way Don described it, it definitely has some bigger mystery to it rather than an oopsie

https://tenor.com/view/pibble-gmail-mulch-puppy-frenchie-gif-14527649618823227348

You need a break from the lore Isaac.. 😔

[acoustic osprey]

oopsie as in an in-lore one
not Dondi oopsie

also i say it is fresh because the way nade describes it, is that it was mistakenly used from GW_F5 (being underwater)

of course, it (like all of our other theories) basically do not and barely work

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-choso-jjk-choso-jujutsu-kaisen-choso-anime-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-10037971888755283102

[acoustic osprey]

making it a fresh idea...

[hexed forge]

NO

[acoustic osprey]

how

[hexed forge]

Idk man I just woke up

[acoustic osprey]

wow thanks

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/beetlejuice-just-hanging-around-gif-9969679485088044404

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1408661638608978041/absolutecinemabydeepie.gif

[hexed forge]

@visual timber you should join lorecord

https://tenor.com/view/goodjob-thumbsup-nice-excellent-naruto-gif-7248440

[acoustic osprey]

and i should respond to Nade's messages...

[visual timber]

Ow Cool there’s a Lorecord?

[acoustic osprey]

sorry i have been playing terraria

[visual timber]

Sign Me UP time to lose my mind. You are all good

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/galactic-republic-luke-skywalker-gif-21801300

it's a bit insane and offtopic and a bit dramatical atm because... no lore

but good luck

[visual timber]

Understandable

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

But yeah, basically, as you replied with how they replace the TCAMs
however, with the syncing aspect

that is probably the best 'answer', and i think i mention it in my first dibble tcam video
But.... the only issue (kinda?) is that we need/want to know what GW actually infers

Because, the only way ARCHIVE(7) could be at GW_F5 is if it is underground
but then do they have a separate coordinate system for such? Seeing as therefore, it would/could be in GUTS?

[visual timber]

Apart from Gateway do we have any other candidates for What GW May Mean? And going along with my small theory earlier it could be That Archives are On every Island and Facility AE Has and Sort Data Through a Server room of sorts in the GUTS, then through The Satellite dish Array by the Docks, are Transmitted to The Tartarus location on the Nearby Island (personal theory) And presumably the Core, this is Stuff i had a couple months ago that i’m referring to where has Tartarus may be a Secure Confinement Facility for Data aswell As Experiments enemies and Other such Apollo Secrets and Gateway being a sister island Near Tartarus. I know full well i could be wrong as i don’t know everything we have available so far nor The actual lore

I do know Alot of what i am saying seems to be coming from Nowhere but i swear i do have context clues either in game or through Confirmed Pieces of Lore

[acoustic osprey]

unless i am forgetting something (it is midnight sorry) nothing else really on what GW could mean sadly
But we do know that it is in reference to, both GW_$$ from Dibble and AUGUSTUS videos, being about 'location'

https://gyazo.com/ac29aff25dc93f31556d471a0c27f61c

but, other than that, hard to say
especially about the rest you ask

We do know, though, that Gateway has been referred to as a Gateway to Tartarus
but how literal was that? who knows

also that is words from 2022 now, maybe that has changed (but i doubt that)

[visual timber]

Fair Enough, is the Image Of Gateway On a Grid confirmed to be in-lore? Would be something apollo actually would have used? If so GW may Stand For Graphical Whereabouts, that way it could be used for Other maps aswell which may explain why some things on the Videos Don’t match up with Gateway, they would be the same area On different Islands. Maybe if Any of the Devs Are Willing i can ask

[visual timber]

Ok thank you, Graphical Whereabouts may not be out of the realm of Possibility then

[acoustic osprey]

although
we can't truly presume that we know that GW = Gateway
because we were only given K15 and I12 prior to the map

but never given and said like GW_K15

however within the AUGUSTUS video it seems like it may be likely that GW = Gateway
because it is definitely on Gateway shows a location that matches up with H4 (just that the building has never been there before painfully 🫠 )

https://gyazo.com/9d7fa117630473ff4b8b5eb7c5a4dbdb

[visual timber]

I’m learning a good bit about the Lore, thanks for Answering all my Questions i quite enjoyed the Discussion!

[cunning bough]

.

[acoustic osprey]

no worries!

[keen lake]

does anyone know if the tribals and cannibles are in the game files?

[grand sigil]

no

tribals havent been a thing for a long time

unfortunately

[acoustic osprey]

in terms of being in the game files, no

not yet

we had "tribal" art in Spiro

but i do not believe it is currently in Gateway atm

[keen lake]

damn

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, apologises

||also your name is almost similar to an old lore name...||

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-bar-gif-4298875606784040546

[hexed forge]

There is tribal art in the game files iirc
Different from the one on the actual spiro map tho

[grand sigil]

tribal art as in art made by gen 1s
or as in
straight up "tribal" art

[hexed forge]

The former

But whatever is in the game files is most likely very outdated

[grand sigil]

hold up isnt it kinda sus to talk about whats in the game files in the one and only isle official discord

[hexed forge]

no

[grand sigil]

oh

[nimble fractal]

oh..

oh!!

[barren ruin]

found a hilarious song that just needs some lyrics changed to fit the Apollo mindset to other peoples research XD

[cunning bough]

italians??

[hallow ruin]

Khrono?

[hallow ruin]

we have a playlist for lore. drop that!!

[barren ruin]

needs heavy alterations though the current version is based on a 40k thing

[hallow ruin]

echidna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83tQbtvL-e8

[ornate comet]

More accurate

Lore*

[acoustic osprey]

Khorne

[low scarab]

lol

Lore accurate

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

[hallow ruin]

oh yeaaah!! quetz wasnt it?

[acoustic osprey]

no

[hallow ruin]

then what 😟

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-gif-3016400040181561805

Khorne (Damien)

i.e. the person who interacted with the (first half iirc) console (user inquiries)

[acoustic osprey]

second half was Dr something

[hallow ruin]

Vega?

[acoustic osprey]

Dr Chance or something not Vega

[hallow ruin]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, i think it was Dr Chance

i get confused with him and Dr Whyse

"Paging Dr Whyse"
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1171343180348805160/unknown.png?ex=68ab6118&is=68aa0f98&hm=47e2676443cb44c8871a3360f5951c2f67469274eec1940a24d613ff78c6a33d

[acoustic osprey]

GALLI RULER (Galli)
that was his discord username as well

[acoustic osprey]

(Neuro Spino teaser)

[hallow ruin]

he had a discord acc 💀

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah... why do you ask

[hallow ruin]

u even find me asking wierd but not that isle lore scientist got a dis acc isnt 💀

[acoustic osprey]

because it was, like Khorne, basically the actual person from discord that was put into lore

this is because they used the 'console' (giving us the user inquiries)

[MALE VOICE]
Hello, Doctor Chance.
How can I help you today?

(the console was done during a Don Stream iirc. I never watched it and I do not think anyone saved clips of it)

also i completely forgot, that was not specifically his discord name
that was his twitch name

but that may have also been his discord username as well, my oopsie there

[hallow ruin]

hold on a second

are u tryna tellme the console conversation isnt some document dondi shared

[acoustic osprey]

this, no

[hallow ruin]

but literally an "event" that happened live where someone talked to dondi in some way

[acoustic osprey]

(this is all the user inquiries)

[hallow ruin]

dondi being the console

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, it was live
which is a pretty cool idea

[hallow ruin]

like, in stream chat or was it a website that had that interaction
im very curious this is beautiful

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, the console needs to be done again

[acoustic osprey]

iirc, in stream chat

and only two "Profiles" (peoples) were able to do it

i could be completely wrong, as i am going off what i was told at the time because these streams are before i got VERY big into isle lore specifically

[hallow ruin]

yeah dw im just asking for curiousity ik ur not toally sure abt it

[acoustic osprey]

but double checking old messages, i am 99% sure it was done via Stream

HOW in stream? Were these people typing in chat of stream?

Sadly no clue

i do not even remember how the console looked like :/

[hallow ruin]

ima be honest, seeing the console chats rn it feels a bit too delusional and cringe if they did it in chat

i assume dondi had some specific website, think about the apollo transmitter's twitter acc

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

[hallow ruin]

i can really guess its either blank white screen and just quickly made
or something like VraptorK's thingy

[acoustic osprey]

i have seen some people from old 2018 chat logs talk about it like they (Khorne and Galli) had magically done something in-game and accessed the console

but i think that is 'later 2018/2019' conspiracies
because both Khorne and Galli basically never really chatted again after some time

[hallow ruin]

this is low-key frustrating
why did khrone and galli gatekeep that !! (maybe not intentionally but well)

[acoustic osprey]

not sure if i believe it though
this is all 7 years ago now 🫠 lol

[hallow ruin]

yeah agreed, well anyways i dont think it matters to still dig for such stuff, we know whats informative for now

all we need is just.. it happening again 😔

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

but the idea of the console is really neat
especially if it is properly coded

i could imagine some REALLY cool ideas expanded from it, that mix in with what we got to do for the Lore Hunt

[hallow ruin]

at first when u said it i honestly thought they got access to some chat thats like costumer service when u got pre-made messages to choose from and they give different answers yk

its like, u get a chat with basic questions and as the replicator(?) replies you get more stuff to ask for and theres maybe some specific question route that gets u to a specific "rare/1 of a kind" question

kind of like how people exploit GPT with some prompts and make it answer some stuff it didnt answer before

[lethal moat]

How do I access tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

as said by the console... "This distribution of this information will disrupt the natural development of the profiles during phase four. They must learn of it of their own accord within parameters designated by Apollo Engineering."

[acoustic osprey]

lol

i mean, it would be very interesting if Don used some sort of LLM to answer questions like that

however, who was actually writing to 'them' in the console?

that seems to be unclear

we don't really know if it was The Replicator

[hallow ruin]

i assume its dondi? well after realizing its not pre-made

oh u mean in lore

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

as the peoples talking seem to refer to The Replicator, as if not it

i say peoples as we know there was a female and male voice

Female Voice when Khorne was in
Male Voice for when Galli/Chance was in

[hallow ruin]

didnt we get to know replicator is a whole system
maybe that console is Replicator but like the whole system including this.. and they refered to "The replicator", the actual cloning and EIP thing

knowing replicator was more of a system all around and within AE

(cameras.. and why not an assistant of some sort)

[acoustic osprey]

'whole system' is evrima-ish lore understanding

[hallow ruin]

maybe it didnt get revealed untill evrima

[acoustic osprey]

The Replicator was just an AI in Legacy (of course, able to replicate still)

You are being monitored by the replicator

All profiles submit information to the replicator.
The replicator compiles this information and
redistributes it upon Gateway

Replicator: System profile designated to monitor gateway

guh
re-reading the whole document is always cool

really gets you a really interesting look into the past

whilst being in the present

[lethal moat]

Thousand life contract then

[acoustic osprey]

nothing from the console...

https://tenor.com/view/look-nolan-grayson-omni-man-sad-disappointed-gif-20907720

[hallow ruin]

i really loved it when isaac brought this up to me

[acoustic osprey]

although the idea of profiles is very prevalent in the console stream

[hallow ruin]

i hopefully can get something goood enough by tonight

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1408661638608978041/absolutecinemabydeepie.gif

Do not listen to the other profiles.
They are not complete.
Only one will be complete.

[hallow ruin]

😟

[acoustic osprey]

i do wish we got a better insight into what EIPs were back in legacy

like how:

User Inquiry: Replicate All-Father
Status: Pending
Generating…
Generating…
Inquiry Accepted.
All-Father EIP Generating.

How does one generate THE ALL-FATHER EIP
which shows some sort of detraction from what we've seen of legacy, where things correlated from in-game to in-lore

it was interesting to say the least

[hallow ruin]

Yo guys
anyone by chance got a high quality version of this? i looked everywhere 😔 they are all covered by isle logo at the buttom

maybe this one too 🥰

[acoustic osprey]

search Tapwing hyper giga, not hard to find!!

https://www.deviantart.com/tapwing/art/Drive-Craig-drive-728426141

[acoustic osprey]

same with Vega

https://rodrigo_vega.artstation.com/projects/yo81K

https://www.deviantart.com/rodrigo-vega/art/Hyperendocrin-Specimen-Incident-498255184
deviant art as well

[hallow ruin]

OOOH i didnt even know its tapwings other wise i would've found it
thought its too old

isaac thank you so much

[acoustic osprey]

lol

no worries

[hallow ruin]

yay

i dont think redwood is the right choice anymore
nor the casual jungle its too boring

god i love the way this environment is done

[river marsh]

I think there's a very high chance the environment will end up changing drastically over time as more things are added; such as the metallivore plants, the thorns, etc (maybe a mutated lichen/moss will get added to create that environmental effect in the art?). Right now I'd probably take this as the "blank canvas" with just a few sketches to create the framework. Which does sound rather ridiculous in context to the decade it's existed in total, but looking at it objectively, that's how I see it. Plus Gateway has only existed for.... 2 years(?) I've had art pieces take me that long to make let alone a whole map

[spare igloo]

There's the lore of the game! No discussion! lol (just kidding, okay?)

[grand sigil]

erm . . .

<@&933486433342222376> ^^

thank

[acoustic osprey]

We do know the newest update of UE will include better weathering

[river marsh]

yee. ngl excited for that; one of the only good things ive heard of coming from the engine update 😂 i havent head of anything else sadly so hopefully this next blog will give more info on that

[patent ginkgo]

Would love a lore-ified lichen or two, so much you can do with those

[sweet marsh]

Just curious where did you hear this

[river marsh]

one of the devs mentioned it a while ago but I can't find it in any of kissen's quotes unless I'm just searching the wrong words. Or maybe it wasn't her...uhhhhh

tldr: more detailed brushes so the buildings will look closer to the concept art

[lethal moat]

Moving this over here because I figured it was fun

[river marsh]

ooooo I like that, though youll likely see friend groups deliberately going after being a neuro. BUT it would be in-game balanced mixpacking...hmmmm

[river marsh]

tyy

[hexed forge]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401480573471948821/1409343254570340413

[lethal moat]

I like the idea of using small herbivores as a lure to get large herbivores to walk into a kill zone, but with randoms you met and forced under threat of death

[hexed forge]

I dont think it'll work
If it's a random AND they're playing a small herbivore that takes very little time to grow.
They'd probably just kill themselves rather than play a dino that they cant control.
Unless you master negotiating skills and are able to convince the random player to do x thing

[sweet marsh]

Oh lol when he said weathering I interpreted it as weather effects

[hexed forge]

lol

[grand sigil]

lets bring back neurotenics being straight up magical

summons a storm

[lethal moat]

Most of the time you wouldn't be in direct control, but you can take control at any time

[grand sigil]

spino blast

[fast forge]

except now if you just dump your dino you are at risk of losing mutations built up by previous elder runs

[grand sigil]

we need to bring back everything
old isle lore and especially super old isle lore was so wacky and fun

[hexed forge]

I dont think thats how it works,
Pretty sure Don mentioned the mutation buffs to be permanent, not for one life only

[fast forge]

oh really?
that seems silly to me then

[lethal moat]

This also encourages neuros to be careful because too many strong things can gang up and kill you, so no squads of 3 rexes

[hexed forge]

I dont think so tbh,
Depends on what the starting percentage of the mutation is

If it's like 2-5% and then it increases by like 2% each life I think its good, maybe even 5%

[hexed forge]

I think it would still be easily abused by people

[lethal moat]

That's the point

It isn't supposed to be friendly, but it's also not supposed to be easy

[fast forge]

I thought it was like, as long as you keep that line alive
Buffing you permanently just means new players are at an even bigger disadvantage

[hexed forge]

But it's not fun for the normal players that may suddenly be put under control of that Neuro,
But of course, strains would probably be rare as hell so perhaps it's balanced

[hexed forge]

I'll try finding the quote

Damn that was a year ago

[lethal moat]

It should be "DUDE THIS GIANT ALIEN THING TRIED TO GET ME TO BETRAY YOU GUYS AND I HAD TO DROWN MYSELF TO GET RIF OF IT" not "damn, a neuro got me"

[fast forge]

He says right there, next life they are more effective
He doesn't say "forever after they are more effective"

[hexed forge]

ehm
"Permanently"

[fast forge]

Yeah I read that as permanent in the sense that it carries over

Yes I know what you mean

[hexed forge]

yay

[fast forge]

Just getting a permanent boost seems overpowered

[hexed forge]

Well then we can only hope that there isn't a way to farm strains to easily become em

[hexed forge]

I like the idea where there would be a reset at a thousand lives
But who the hell has over a thousand lives on any dino

lol

[fast forge]

I just see a gamestate where anyone who plays regularly has all of the best mutations maxed out, and anyone not up to that point doesn't stand a chance

that doesn't sound fun to me

I guess we kinda have that in like shooter games like CoD where experienced players have unlocked more equipment
But even then it's not jut straight up better

[hexed forge]

Best way to balance it would probably be to add a limit on certain mutations

I mainly like this idea because it fits with what I THINK TOMB could be

[acoustic osprey]

At least it is confirmed that visual will be talking more in this next Devblog

Which is good
Would love to see what will be affected

[acoustic osprey]

tbf, basically every neuro we know has always related to the electromagnetic spectrum
EMP blast and weather controlling Neuro Spino did fit in, albeit the weather aspect is a lot more magical than grounded in science fiction lol

exluding the Neuro Goo (bio materials) / NHJ aspect
that has always been a bit iffy

seeing as it seems to infer more than just the brain (neuro aspect), being very physical; ESPECIALLY looking at NHJs

[strange shell]

I liked Thor neuro spino

[knotty jolt]

I think it would be fine if you did the neuros bidding it gave you an extra mutation or some incentive to not drown yourself if it takes control, so like after taking control over your dino 3 times or whatever it becomes immune to further control and you just get like a mutation popup, so as a neuro you'd want to get as much value out of each control session as possible

[hallow ruin]

whos that

[ornate comet]

Do you think some gen 1s will be able to climb trees

I’ve heard that tossed around somewhere

[hexed forge]

I'd believe so yea

[ornate comet]

I can just imagine walking in the woods and you see a humanoid creature watching you from the canopy

And also I think it would be cool to have primate type movement for the climbing

Like maybe hanging from a branch with your arms

[lethal moat]

Probablu

[fast forge]

I think they'll climb just like herrera

[ornate comet]

I’m envisioning the climbing cannibals from the forest and sons of the forest

[grand sigil]

theres no way early concept art for tribals wasnt based off stuff from the forest

cant find old tribal structure and tool concept arts

i know they existed

[acoustic osprey]

Sadly, I did not download any of Iron Dragon's design concepts for The Isle before they updated their website

so most of this is from wiki

but this is just Iron Belly's stuff though
nothing of Vega or Draconia

[knotty locust]

god these are cool though

[hallow ruin]

if he's right about it being only in human buildings...

-# Lore?...

[patent ginkgo]

I asked about that in the past

Got the response that it would come back when the time is right

[acoustic osprey]

nice

seeing pictures of these plants always makes me appreciate the fidelity of Evrima, even if a good bunch are marketplace
because i have no doubt that when they mostly all become hand made by Afterthought, that they will either be at the same level or even better

hoping that the lighting isn't ruined though, which helps make the plants look nice

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah

There’s are definitely some plants, though, that I think look subpar compared to many and hope get redone

Namely the jungle shrubs and barrenwort

Barrenwort will likely go away cause it’s from mawi but the shrubs have leaves from legacy

Been thinking about how much better the shrubs in particular would look if they were based on young coffee shrubs, and/or if we brought back the old evrima shrubs with a low mounding shape

[acoustic osprey]

true

[river marsh]

Updating the plants and how they render from quality/distance would also help immensly since some plants vanish before dinos do, and results in players not actually being hidden which is immensly annoying. Hopefully that changes to a low poly form the farther you go

[acoustic osprey]

i think some buildings popping away further is more of an issue for me to be fair

especially things like bridges

i know we use nanite, but are we not able to utilise LODs at the same time

[grand sigil]

where did you find these

i looked for hours

[acoustic osprey]

my secret hidden stash!!!

just search up "The Isle Concept Art" and go to the original fandom wiki

https://isle.fandom.com/wiki/The_Isle_Concept_art
A BUNCH of old stuff here and there

not all, i remember Iron Dragon doing a fair bit more
but it still has a lot

[grand sigil]

yay i think

[acoustic osprey]

this is so

oh yeah, having a look again
definitely missing some things :/

i might have a bunch of others somewhere in my years old SSD

oh well

[hexed forge]

heh

Looks like HT might be dropping today
Finished GUTS hubs perchance..?

||REX LORE VIDEO!??!||

https://tenor.com/view/briankik-turn-around-hedgehog-mrbond-gif-24320492

There is always hope I guess

[plush widget]

https://tenor.com/view/chair-turn-mr-big-zootopia-plus-转身-faire-demi-tour-gif-27181278

[hexed forge]

exactly

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-chair-spin-the-office-spin-thingking-gif-14842213

[hexed forge]

I mean..
It would make sense for it to drop with HT...

Kinda....

But it's more likely that we'll have to wait for Rex's full release..

Just give us the lore video please.. 😔

[civic pollen]

i'm so excited for the rex video

[hexed forge]

Yeah hopefully some cool stuff lore-wise
Mainly hoping for it to end the stuff with the Scar theory

[plush widget]

It's gonna be soooo nicee

Seiza bout to deliver as always

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391886426135859200/1408663265776762920/a3wkox.gif

Lore community finally going to start... to uh.. lore

[plush widget]

https://tenor.com/view/yippe-yippee-jjk-sukuna-happy-gif-9872440964595509418

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-jujutsu-kaisen-gojo-satoru-sukuna-domain-expansion-sukuna-megumi-gif-5837259538276132640

[regal horizon]

so you don't even tell me when you rejoin here huh

[hexed forge]

DAVID IS BACK?

[hexed forge]

HES BACK

[regal horizon]

ikr

watch him leave again

[hexed forge]

He better not

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[hexed forge]

yippee

Now no more confusion Isaac.. 😔

oh...

[acoustic osprey]

Crap

[hexed forge]

oh......

[acoustic osprey]

We better get the best goddamn weathering if GUTS is kaput!!

[hexed forge]

...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-arthur-morgan-arthur-morgan-tb-tuberculosis-arthur-morgan-sick-gif-4076640020124019793

[hexed forge]

Hopefully it just means that the GUTS stuff that they had set up just broke and it would take some time to fix it rather than... just.. gone..

[civic pollen]

yeah if they gotta restart thats one thing. if it's scrapped that sucks ALOT

[acoustic osprey]

Hopefully...

[hexed forge]

It just really sucks for GUTS to just cease to exist

Ruins a lot of potential world-building...

[acoustic osprey]

Hopefully we're still getting the Hub

[hexed forge]

Isaac..

There is no Hubs without the GUTS in front of them 😔

-That doesnt make sense sorry

lol

GUTS Hubs for a reason..

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-gif-3016400040181561805

[civic pollen]

[acoustic osprey]

adding more for context
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391873362204033045/1410030404173565962/image.png?ex=68af88a5&is=68ae3725&hm=282ab8c830dc5ec138babd5576d63813fdf8c0e643f70b60669c7617ccbfccec

of course, it's best not to go into complete assumption
seeing as we don't know, truly, what Don means specifically

hopefully it isn't too bad 🫠
i really don't understand how this could happen

[pseudo fable]

Hey, same.

https://tenor.com/bCmaJ.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/best-guy-around-meme-gif-7582423445354748873

please don't remove GUTS from lore though 🙏

if anything, I would much rather have it in (even like in lore videos)
rather than just being completely removed and having to retcon things again

[civic pollen]

UE 5.6 HATES GUTS

[grand sigil]

i told you guys the tunnels were too good to be real two years ago

[acoustic osprey]

NOOOO

[acoustic osprey]

why do we gain one thing and lose another

this was such a WOOHOO moment
and now GUTS...

we have a lot of assets now, presumably, for GUTS and the GUTS Hubs
it may just mean that either we'll have to try and see it through with getting fixed

[patent ginkgo]

hey maybe they can just do another engine upgrade real quick and fix GUTS... im sure itll be just that easy!

[acoustic osprey]

or they'll be redone to fit the 'overworld'

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-morty-rick-and-morty-20minutes-adventure-quick-adventure-gif-22364490

[grand sigil]

the isle is no more

[patent ginkgo]

hey hopefully lighting (or some other comparably influential thing) will look very nice

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048536975323451402/1238081418412953681/giffka.gif

I really hope there is a workaround whatever 5.6 broke, because not having GUTS will just.. really suck... It has been one of the main things that we have been hyped about for a year or two now lol.

Anyway Rex Lore Video eh?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[civic pollen]

[acoustic osprey]

😔

[hexed forge]

Also for some reason I don't think we're getting the Rex video with the HT release..

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, definitely not in our favour

[hexed forge]

lol

[civic pollen]

[fast forge]

why not?

didn't he say it was already done?

[hexed forge]

It's mainly because he either didn't see or ignore a lot of the questions that were asked about the video,
Maybe he's keeping it a surprise, but at that point why reveal there was a 'finished' lore video on the way anyway.

I dont remember if it's finished or not, but it sounded like it was near completion at least

[civic pollen]

maybe we'll have to find it

like with dibble

[hexed forge]

THAT would be great

I hope its THAT case rather than the case of it being halted until Rex's actual release.

If it is that,
I do wonder where we would find it

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

Maybe around West Access or Northwest Ridge, since that is the general area of where we heard Shirley during AUGUSTUS

[acoustic osprey]

The way he talked about it was that it was done
But who knows

[fast forge]

yeah that was the impression that I got

[acoustic osprey]

I just hope it has been improved

And is less trailer/teaser like

And more a video FOR lore

[acoustic osprey]

Tbf though
If you guys had pinged on reply rather than asking out in the blue it might have been answered like our question

[hexed forge]

sorry a couple hours before that I witnessed a guy get nuked for replying to a Don message with a ping from an hour ago

The "Sure" message specifically 😔

[acoustic osprey]

Nuked by him or a mod, likely a mod

But i mean in the middle of a conversation...

Don has said he doesn't mind those...

[hexed forge]

I wasnt even going to partake in the QnA until you pinged me.. I was in the middle of my JWE marathon 😔

[acoustic osprey]

Oh well

If we don't get the lore video during or some time after HT, maybe we can politely ask when he is next active

[hexed forge]

NO POLITNESS SORRY!!
ITS BEEN 1 1/2 YEARS!!!

[acoustic osprey]

Although......

[hexed forge]

jk ofc

[acoustic osprey]

I would not mind the lore video being done via a LORE HUNT

[acoustic osprey]

Woah

[hexed forge]

yeah!
Maybe thats why he didnt reply.. maybe..

[acoustic osprey]

Probably not lol

[hexed forge]

But I feel like all the 5.6 trouble wouldn't give anyone the time to set up a lore hunt lmao

[acoustic osprey]

Unless he prepared for it prior

But... probably not

[hexed forge]

If he did 5.6 nuked it 😔

[acoustic osprey]

Probably would not have

that would likely depend on, though, how complex a theoretical 'next' lore hunt would be fine

So, maybe

[hexed forge]

After giving it some thought, nah,
Doubt he had the time to set up a lore hunt during the 5.6 trouble lmao

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah if he was just the lore guy and not director

Weird to think that we may have already gotten the lore video if UE5.6 never happened

[hexed forge]

What does 5.6 even add

[acoustic osprey]

No GUTS

[hexed forge]

thanks

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rowan-atkinson-rowanatkinson-rowan-atkinson-mr-bean-gif-7140966700836109531

Also the thing for Visual with walls
Not sure on what else

[hexed forge]

uhh

Basically environment stuff...?

And animation stuff

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[fast forge]

this would be the new features in the update, but the devs might be more interested in technical fixes

[hallow ruin]

i assume they mainly wanted performance changes

also, afaik the isle does not even use metahuman so it doesnt matter

[grand sigil]

ai overview . . .

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[grand sigil]

no . . . no i donts thinks so . . .

[acoustic osprey]

Oh

[grand sigil]

what a sad state of affairs

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/briankik-turn-around-hedgehog-mrbond-gif-24320492

[grave river]

And just like that no hype

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/purple-and-brown-chewing-gum-nom-nom-nom-chew-yummy-gif-25363644

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-master-chef-gif-5958489123617461433

[acoustic osprey]

i honestly cannot wait for to finally show [redacted]

it looks really nice at the moment
i think i need to ask about something specific about it though

however, it has made me relook at the 'old' documents now

[fast forge]

atrium still closed

[acoustic osprey]

rip

oh god

rip H6 and rip D10

yikes this might hurt Augustus a bit lol

BUT OH MY

we might just have a new gigantic location

or should i say some sort of perimeter

i don't even know what the proper term is

[ornate comet]

301,296.913, -337,232.288, 22,393.854

[acoustic osprey]

ITS SO BIG

i was testing the replayfilters (more broken tough sadly)
BUT DAMN

this may not be the 'transistor' but still

we lost GUTS but we gained THIS

[ornate comet]

dude I stopped dead in my tracks and I was just like excuse me

[acoustic osprey]

I KNOW

[lethal moat]

Swimming pool

[fast forge]

West Access is entirely gone

[acoustic osprey]

🫠

i cannot believe it
EVEN BRITAIN (lol)

also a little dock next to it! is neat

[fast forge]

looks like all this is just cut off and gone

[acoustic osprey]

and Britain !!! 😔

[fast forge]

oh small big island is gone?

[acoustic osprey]

painful though, hurts augustus to see that west access is gone

yeah the south east island, britain, poofed

[fast forge]

so maybe more like this

[acoustic osprey]

ye

probably a tiny bit more here and there but yeah

[fast forge]

huh they had just changed a number of things with west access last update

surprised it's gone

[storm onyx]

wow what is that

dinosaur farm

[acoustic osprey]

enclosure probably yeah

[nimble fractal]

WHAT IS THAAAAAAT

I mean, I read what it is

But still

WHAT IS THAAAAAAAT

[nimble fractal]

Lore lore lore lore lore

[fast forge]

Definitely an animal enclosure

[knotty locust]

looks like an ugly dog with a big head

[young sphinx]

What’s all this? I been out of the loop

[hallow ruin]

theres 4 gates tiny...
try ur luck!!

[hallow ruin]

isaac.. you know what this means..

||I-12||

hopefully 🙏

[acoustic osprey]

now just what do we call this place now?

as in a proper name

[lethal moat]

Depends, looks very unfinished, for now, my vote is the pits

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, in my opinion, it seems more finished than other areas (besides East Docks) atm

but yeah
thats a fun name

[acoustic osprey]

definitely very empty with the lack of useable buildings
also there is a small building connecting to one of the walls which is blocked off by darkness like the GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

oh wait a minute

i think this is new
I am trying to compare to old photos

we might actually finally have one of the new custom vending machines in

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/1SnIIftOYUYrLB57Q6SxtwRlI3onpjbGDfNuLO0_ZUM/https/cdn1.epicgames.com/ue/product/Featured/VendingMachinesFoodDrinks_featured-894x488-f47245611b7ab8cc76315cbbc6683e77.png

seeing as the red one was the original cola we had

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1301288366184202281/Screen_Shot_2024-10-31_at_7.55.16_am.png?ex=68b0c23b&is=68af70bb&hm=f7e1d7e0312139cf255cd52bdecf73c54b924e1a62dcbd41b2b80db72e8f84eb
this

[spiral elbow]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/soda-gif-8026056502744469335

[south pelican]

that's so lore

[snow jasper]

great… all hopes for an island hopper magy niche shattered 😞

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

i thought i had a cool thought
but no

"The Enclosures / Pits" area is a bit too west for the injection point

which would've been a cool little connection thing, but yeah

seems like, still, it was a (more or less) 'random' drop point

[low scarab]

LOL

I can smell a lore video and ui update now

Whelp I guess I gotta catch up and scour the whole map

[frail moat]

How long do yall think this hordetest will last? I’m itchin’ for this stuff in Evrima

[sharp heron]

same!

[hallow ruin]

whats this

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/soda-gif-8026056502744469335

[acoustic osprey]

marketplace assets

the original ones from the standard vending machines we have atm

it appears that we have finally gotten our first custom vending machine

which Don talked about some time ago

[fast forge]

made from real coelacanths!

[acoustic osprey]

guh! lol

[strange shell]

That's actually huge in terms of lorebuilding

Because the existence of a brand named cola-canth implies mainstream representation of dinos or other extinct species (I know coelacath isn't actually extinct but yk)

Which brings the question : Maybe AE aren't the only ones who brought back extinct species ?

[nimble fractal]

Am I the only one who can't toggle the F2 replay on hordetesting?

I wanted to take the pictures of some new stuff that was added to the bases and interior, but couldn't turn it on

[hexed forge]

I overslept sorry

And the fact that you waited for me to wake up to release it makes me want to wait for you to wake up now

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

Another 8 hours to go wahoo

I’m having a hard time reading through all the map changes

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED

Can’t tell if I should be happy or annoyed 😭

[fast forge]

I think they often turn it off for hordetest

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-definitely-something-inside-stephen-sharer-there-must-be-something-there-obviously-something-inside-gif-19574802

[plush widget]

But I wanna make cool cinematic intro

[hexed forge]

Yeah the island seems to be gone

hm

OH LOL from an angle it looked like it was one of the cranes from the dockyard.
Thought the swamp docks were in lmao

The rendering issues at the new structures already annoy me 😔

It's definitely some sort of containment facility for semi-aquatics imo.

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-john-hammond-yahoo-jurassic-park-yahoo-john-hammond-yahoo-gif-21207753

removal of the island was a bad change, there was opportunity to be had there

[hexed forge]

There are viewing areas, and most of the enclosure is water. It's not deep enough to be an aquatic containment facility + it has parts where its just solid dry land.
Someone mentioned that it could be a water resourvor, but I doubt it. It was never fully filled up with water. It has standard gates on the dry parts of it, meaning it was DESIGNED to be like 70% water and 30% dry land.
Most likely made to contain uh, Spinosaurus, Deinos, Cheirus, etc.
Or
||# Giant Crustaceans||
Doubt so tho

[hexed forge]

Definitely

[hexed forge]

Oh and I just got killed, have to make my way back again yahoo

[snow jasper]

lol

[hexed forge]

🔥 thank you

(Juvie Rex ate me)

[snow jasper]

Also, it is massive, Im not sure how I feel about huge swathes of the map being taken up with human stuff and nothing in it

nothing in as in, no sanctuaries, freshwater, MZ's
but i've not had the chance to check it out for myself so I dont know what the place is like

[hexed forge]

Its at the corner of the map,
No one used to visit this corner so it doesn't really affect anything

No MZs, PZs, or freshwater was destroyed while adding this

it is okay

[hexed forge]

Yeah searched all three of the enclosures, no secrets.

Nothing in the DTA area either, however theres another one of these lol

Floating dishes

Cool dock tho

Theres an invisible wall surrounding the Radio towers...

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-trying-to-hide-accusing-guilty-hiding-evidence-blaming-gif-15949704

Alright theres nothing here

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-season-2-s2-shibuya-gif-14777245307960309691

[fast forge]

I don't have any professional experience with large animal pens, but it definitely looks like an animal pen to me. Also you are 100% right that it was not entirely full of water when in use

Looks a lot like an enclosure at a zoo

[hexed forge]

indeed

All domes are gone

Only Atrium stands

[lethal moat]

Semiaquatic enclosure

[hexed forge]

Yes

Since the entire presumed "H Sector" is gone, uh,
I guess H4 could be something similar to F5

The grid becoming more and more inaccurate/useless

[nimble fractal]

New weathered textures btw

[ornate comet]

Has anyone checked inside the dome for redwood changes

[nimble fractal]

I haven't yet

[fast forge]

I walked around the north and east sides, no changes. Still just a big hole in the wall on the north side, and the entrance on the east is still closed

[ornate comet]

Spectator disabled?

[hexed forge]

Very neat I guess

But was this a good trade-off for GUTS 😔

[fast forge]

was this the reason they couldn't use GUTS?

[nimble fractal]

😭

[hexed forge]

5.6 is the reason we'll get more detailed weathering
However,
5.6 also somehow breaks GUTS

Hopefully its just a temporary setback

[fast forge]

Hey don if you happen to see this, is there a chance we could get GUTS in the future? Or is it gone forever?

I'm mostly just curious, but I know some of my lore compatriots are much more crestfallen

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[nimble fractal]

I guess GUTS simply require some rework
Some........ from scratch 😔

[hexed forge]

GUTS Recode

lol

[nimble fractal]

😭

[pseudo fable]

Not from scratch.

[nimble fractal]

Oh, glad to hear that!! Phew

[hexed forge]

Yay

Thats good news

[nimble fractal]

Indeed

[pseudo fable]

Literally anything you saw in GUTS isn't lost.

May just not be entirely underground.

[low scarab]

this could be good or bad

but i guess good news either way

[river marsh]

Theres ways to mask that at least

[hexed forge]

lol

[lethal moat]

Manmade canals would be neat

[low scarab]

lol

[hexed forge]

Hey Don are there any efforts to fix the way some human structures render from a distance?

Like these walls or the towers..

Just very annoying to look at lol

[pseudo fable]

I already fixed those.

[river marsh]

Gen tho they can just shape the terrain a bit or put foliage in ^^

[hexed forge]

Oh neat

thanks

[cerulean flax]

so is gateway in like australia? or new zealand*

whats the lore about them being on the map now?

[hexed forge]

What?

The second part wdym?

[cerulean flax]

oh i forgot to say eukalyptus

[hexed forge]

Ahh

@patent ginkgo Can answer that

The plant guy

But I wouldn't be surprised if Gateway is somewhere in Southeast Asia tbh, that's been the leading idea

[cerulean flax]

also maybe its just my opinion but the eukalyptus trees dont really fit on the map, they look too arid or whatever

[hexed forge]

Are they in the 'savannah' area of the map?

Southwest part, big grassland

[cerulean flax]

no i really mean the eukalyptus trees

the acacia look pretty cool in the savannah

[hexed forge]

I mean a lot of the plants are most likely modified in some way by AE, maybe those are aswell 🤷‍♂️

[cerulean flax]

🤔

pretty interesting why would they modify plants

[patent ginkgo]

Eucalyptus is a huge group with hundreds of species (most native to Australia) and though some are from arid areas, many of the taller ones are from more jungle-y locations

There’s also some species not from Australia iirc

However, eucalyptus doesn’t necessarily correlate to the location because it’s been stated that the non-edible plants have much less lore relevance than that

@cerulean flax

[cerulean flax]

so theyre only added for the looks?🤨

[patent ginkgo]

Potentially

[hexed forge]

We've seen cashews and oranges be modified so Diablos can consume them properly.
Wouldn't be surprised if that would be the case for a lot of other plants, for them to 'fit in' with the dinosaurs.

[patent ginkgo]

It’s not clear

[cerulean flax]

if thats really the reason i wouldve taken other trees because eucalyptus isnt really pretty XD

[patent ginkgo]

Idk I find it very nice

[cerulean flax]

was this in the dibble video they released?

[hexed forge]

Yup

[patent ginkgo]

Also eucalyptus contains the tallest flowering tree species (Australian mountain ash)

[cerulean flax]

so its going to be food for the camara probably?

[patent ginkgo]

Potentially, ik a lot of people want tree grazing for sauropods

[cerulean flax]

lmao i wouldve said thats redwood trees 😄

is there any lore about those smaller trees from spiro coming back?

i only have this picture of the plant

[pseudo fable]

Those are saplings of the symphonias.

[cerulean flax]

are there any big symphonia trees on the map? 🙂

sorry i dont really know stuff about plants but i love the look of the older spiro ones

[patent ginkgo]

There are some occasional larger ones but none that are really huge

The smallish trees with branches that have been in highlands are symphonias I believe

[cerulean flax]

neat those trees r so nice

[chrome vapor]

Does anyone know where the server restart times are shown?

[patent ginkgo]

In #evrima-na and the others like it

[chrome vapor]

I don’t see it

Oh it’s in pins bet

[cerulean flax]

@patent ginkgo i might ping u abit and ask u what plants i see 😇

do u do anything plant related this is so interesting

[fast forge]

We down to just one dome now

[hexed forge]

yup

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-edge-runner-edge-runners-cyberpunk-edgerunner-cyberpunk2077-gif-27635553

[patent ginkgo]

Sounds good

[patent ginkgo]

I’ve worked at a nursery and am studying botany

But otherwise just a huge plant nerd

[acoustic osprey]

:/ yeah

[acoustic osprey]

i have a feeling it may be that we aren't gonna get a proper 'underground tunnel system'

and maybe, like the tunnel we have at Swamp and East Docks

simple linear tunnels

and most of the areas like the Industrial Hub being either at the end of a very simple linear tunnel

or literally just underground

for example the Industrial Hub may literally be what we had with the 'bunker/building' at Volcano

the facade is outside
but the interior is just inside the volcano

[hexed forge]

oh

I thought in that message Don meant it in a "All the GUTS decided to put themselves on the surface of the map rather than stay underground"

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
there are still tunnels and semi-underground buildings in HT

if Don comes back again, we should ask if this is a plugin problem for GUTS' splines
Which would make the most sense

[acoustic osprey]

man this feels so familiar
i was about to say 'i have been here before' but i have not been to that part of Victoria before

[patent ginkgo]

Could also be aspects of lighting and also other plants that have a wider range

[acoustic osprey]

most of the east coast is basically looks like this lol
but the landscape feels familiar too

[fast forge]

nah, I think he meant they don't work underground

[acoustic osprey]

i doubt it's fully this though

[acoustic osprey]

we stil have this^

[hexed forge]

But thats just weird, how would 5.6 break the ability to have things under the map.. 😔

[hexed forge]

oh

[hexed forge]

maybe

[acoustic osprey]

why

[acoustic osprey]

splines!!

[hexed forge]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

forgive me for repeating
but both tunnels in-game from before HT are still in the current HT

it's definitely not a 'being under the map' problem

https://tenor.com/view/frank-heffley-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-i-knew-that-door-had-a-lock-on-it-schizophrenia-schizopost-gif-14431192652707590870

[hexed forge]

thanks

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[acoustic osprey]

or would it be better to ask him for an official name for the enclosure area

[lethal moat]

My bet is it’s the funky unreal geometry on making tunnels different lengths than they actually are, if that was still planned

[hexed forge]

I mean I doubt its official name is any different than "Eastern Docks" lol

[acoustic osprey]

Southern Docks!

[hexed forge]

Im going to use "Semi-Aquatic Containment Facility"

[acoustic osprey]

if its (properly) important it may have a name though

[hexed forge]

I think they abandoned that idea way way before 5.6 happened

[hexed forge]

Rex Lore video!!

(I searched the entire area, no camera to be found 😔 )

[acoustic osprey]

yeah 🫠

i wish there was a document there

seeing as we likely won't be getting the Hub basically... anytime soon

however, seeing as Rex is now out

it is finally great to be in the endgame for the lore video

It is officially 'a lot closer than before'

[hexed forge]

I mean
Tbf
I was a galli so inside the buildings it was all pitch dark, soooo, there is hope(none).

[hexed forge]

perhaps
depends how long this HT lasts 😔

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[acoustic osprey]

better than saying "Rex HT soon" and not knowing when it will be...

at least we have Rex now, which is good

[hexed forge]

yup

Oh also regarding West Access and Northwestern Ridge getting nuked...
I guess we can classify H4 as an F5 situation now...?

[acoustic osprey]

at least it could've existed...

but yeah
H4 is definitely under the same (more so a similar) boat

because you can just shift H4's position more east because it's original location TECHNICALLY could exist

where F5 was placed on water, and always has been just water

the pains

[hexed forge]

lol

Hey isaac it's time to do the thing

the big thing

Disappeared 😔

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[hexed forge]

Would it be breaking the rules if I forward it over here

[acoustic osprey]

DM Rumple maybe

but i think the website should 100% be pinned in here

because this is honestly needed

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[acoustic osprey]

i was talking about having a drive to compile all future Evrima lore

but the website just does it easier and better

[hexed forge]

I agree

[acoustic osprey]

especially since the old isle lore websites used to be pinned in here as well during 2018-2020

Last one left is this
which is... pretty much dead

[hexed forge]

hopefully I dont get sniped by the bot for posting the website link

https://apolloterminal.net/

yay

[acoustic osprey]

rip Cerato

[low scarab]

oh lil late

but how about that lore video that included rex...?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wheezy-gif-1197693694066191278

soon!!... soon...

[low scarab]

does the ritual still summon don?

[acoustic osprey]

sometimes i think

[hexed forge]

ultimate foreshadowing

Im back

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

i'll do it

[hexed forge]

dont

You'll lose your CC role if you get muted

😔

[acoustic osprey]

We have officially released an Unofficial Official Lore Website

The website contains 4 categories:
a Main dashboard for Isle news
a Document page for any new Documents
a Videos page for any new Videos
AND a forums page for anyone who wants to discuss

This website will be slowly updated from time to time (any feedback is welcome!) as well

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

This is the website link to our Unofficial Lore Website:
https://apolloterminal.net/

The website contains 4 categories:
a Main dashboard for Isle news
a Document page for any new Documents
a Videos page for any new Videos
AND a forums page for anyone who wants to discuss

[sage glacier]

It's -#

[hexed forge]

yeah

[acoustic osprey]

I JNOW

[hexed forge]

Struggling

[sage glacier]

If you know then why are you FAILING

[acoustic osprey]

i have a different keyboard language on

[hexed forge]

LOL

[sage glacier]

xD

[acoustic osprey]

so i cannot do the hashtag properly!!

[sage glacier]

Fair

[hexed forge]

Should've done

this

[acoustic osprey]

but please as well^

[hexed forge]

what the hell man

this

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as we have had lore websites in the past pinned for ease 🙏

[hexed forge]

If Don is in chat we should ask him, maybe he'll do it if the admins dont see it

[low scarab]

just poked through it its very nice

[acoustic osprey]

🔥

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hm-gif-9306560

So theres two videos,
But oh well now we know we're getting it after the HT

[ornate comet]

trail cam trail cam trail cam trail cam

[fast forge]

but maybe...

[acoustic osprey]

Trailer and lore video probs

God I hope that means the lore video will be fully lore focused then

[nimble fractal]

We can only hope and wait
I wonder if the new holding pens are related to the video

[hallow ruin]

That would be awesome to make magy's dwarfism considered in-game and lowkey "replicated"

[acoustic osprey]

I hope so!

[midnight orbit]

SO ANYONE ELSE UNABLE TO JOIN HORD TEASTING SERVERS RN?

[nimble fractal]

Hordeteasing...

[midnight orbit]

oop my caps was on -_-

ah dam also wrong channel -_- fml

[hexed forge]

😔

[snow jasper]

never getting pinned

https://tenor.com/view/girl-minion-minion-girl-cyring-gripping-gif-23947866

[hexed forge]

No one saw it probably

😔

[merry zodiac]

🫠

[lethal moat]

Giant crab containment cage

[hexed forge]

Are you able to pin things Rumple?

[lethal moat]

Yes, I saw, I asked and am waiting to hear back if I'm allowed to or not

[hexed forge]

Ah okay thanks

[lethal moat]

Giant crab containment cage

[ornate comet]

I can see under the map into the dome here

still barren and no changes inside

[hexed forge]

lol

[nimble fractal]

Yeah posted it in lorecord

[fast forge]

yeah it didn't seem like the dome had anything different to me

you might still be able to get in through the hole in the north with a ptera or herrera, but the last time I did that it was like a bug trap - I could get in, but I couldn't get out

[ornate comet]

Devblog predictions: probably gonna be on the lighter side since they’ve had their hands full

[hexed forge]

is it today?

Would make sense yeah

[fast forge]

I wonder if Barometric Sensitivity is required for neuro

[acoustic osprey]

bit of a shame since Dondi teased it 😔
but yeah

at least we're getting changes to places we can go to which is nice though

[acoustic osprey]

it should honestly, i don't know why not
helpful for the community especially since it acts like a drive for all lore material
(and we've had fan lore websites pinned too in the past)

[snow jasper]

get your pitchforks, we'll riot!
(not really)

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mob-torches-and-pitchforks-gif-881036690393041921

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh8pkSXlOrw

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-batman-lego-batman-movie-no-gif-5707642

theyre not gone
They will come back
BELIEVE

[acoustic osprey]

if anything
the extensive travelling tunnels will likely poof and the assets will be reused for halls and short distance passageways

[hexed forge]

Just stop giving up all hope-
But seeing as how the damn rendering issues on human structures arent fixed after Don said that he fixed them
yeah
Its joever 😔

[zenith python]

the isle is jp 1 but with what dinos sude have looked like

[hexed forge]

no sorry

[acoustic osprey]

more like jp 2 if anything

[hexed forge]

the holy dishes shall stay
(Just posting a screenshot in case Don scrolls by..)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-gif-9201445

[acoustic osprey]

it may have been that Don did not know and only was told (iirc) about "The Pits'" inner walls popping in and out with distance

[hexed forge]

.

I mentioned the towers, posted a screenshot of em aswell

[zenith python]

yeah but with jp 3 and 2 combined

[acoustic osprey]

as soon as you see Don again, i would say send that new image then
bugs suck i suppose

[hexed forge]

He also acknowledged how weird they look and that it'll only be a temporary issue a year ago on the Maia stream 😭
holy

[acoustic osprey]

true, i think i just mentally block out Jp3 sometimes (my ringtone is the only reminder of that movie)

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pibble-gmail-mulch-puppy-frenchie-gif-14527649618823227348

[zenith python]

wait if you leave hord testing does your dino die

[acoustic osprey]

depends on how you log out

but it likely won't save when HT finishes

[zenith python]

i safed log

[bright nexus]

Do you think if you entomb enough times as the muts upgrade you'll grow into a hypo?

[median shuttle]

does galli kick not do damage on hordetest?

[acoustic osprey]

lore

[hexed forge]

lol

[fast forge]

I was on galli a bit the other day and it didn't seem to be doing damage, but I was a fresh spawn kicking juvie rexes so idk

[median shuttle]

just kicked a taco as fg galli and didnt kill it same with a juvie rex yesterday

[acoustic osprey]

looking at this again now and comparing with HT

does this mean that AUGUSTUS is an EIP?

i suppose it depends on if we are EIPs as well and if entombment only does what we only know it to do from in-game

[hexed forge]

yeah I'd say that we, the players, are EIPs

https://tenor.com/view/itadori-itadori-yuji-jjk-juju-cry-gif-9437012985854787460

[acoustic osprey]

what is the first image...

[acoustic osprey]

i do agree, yeah

[hexed forge]

oh
Shibuya! But with a hole in the middle..

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

maybe its a hole to tartarus

also H6 and D10 are under the map still

[hexed forge]

yay

[hallow ruin]

what does ths mean

[limber sparrow]

What does EIP stand for?

[acoustic osprey]

Embryo Intelligence Profile
(aka. A Profile, aka. YOU, the player)

at least, that was in Legacy
we don't know if the acronym has a new meaning

[merry zodiac]

Isnt it late for you