isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[snow jasper]

burp

[acoustic osprey]

i do wonder

if the classification title of ERRANT-291 (the number section) is the same number for their designation

[ornate comet]

Allo plush that plays the audio of Don tweaking about allo memes from that one stream when you press it

[lethal moat]

Hehehe

[low scarab]

lol honestly goated idea

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

I haven’t touched the doc in weeks, and you’re the only other person with admin stuff on it, it’s probably something funky on Catag’s end

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
I got a feeling it his catag's thing

[lethal moat]

Something’s fishy here

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/red-herring-scooby-doo-a-pup-named-scooby-doo-fred-jones-gif-20195326

[solemn cove]

<@&933486433342222376>

[strange shell]

Wrong channel

[solemn cove]

?

[strange shell]

Scam posts belong in the scam channel

[gaunt dawn]

Lore

[lethal moat]

[muted reef]

This became #isle-scam-theories

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

[muted reef]

Jesus lets get some conversation in here it hasn't been this dead in a hot minute

Ya'll think harbourburst is gonna be in the Atrium or whatever it's called

I may be completely wrong about that name hold on a sec

Arbourburst lmao

Or would it be just standard redwoods

I wonder what's gonna be in the North Dome

[knotty locust]

Honestly I am mixed on whether the arbour will be one specific tree somewhere or if we’ll have a forest of them

Because they’d have to be MASSIVE trees

[muted reef]

One area seems better

[knotty locust]

Unless the arbourburst was an attempt at making redwood trees that grow very quickly, and as a result are much shorter

[muted reef]

I'd imagine if they were in the atrium we'd see some normal redwoods and some that have been bursted through

[lethal moat]

Why arbourburst
Whynot treesplosion

[knotty locust]

I do think it would be funny if they just randomly exploded

AE trying to make their own eucalyptus trees

[lethal moat]

Kaboom?

[knotty locust]

do you think AE planned for eucalyptus trees reaching 100 years old and exploding/catching on fire

[lethal moat]

Prolly bot

[muted reef]

bot

[strange shell]

Arborburst looks to me like a fairly rare thing, a large POI kind of thing
There could be a few of them around the island, but I don't think a whole forest
Seeing as they're parasitic plants, they cannt trive if there's only themselves around

[muted reef]

Which is where there can be some normal ones and some regulars mixed into the atrium

[strange shell]

Yeah
I assume you'll be strolling in the middle of a redwood and suddendly you come accross a tree 10x the size of the others in the middle of the forest
Like that one giant tree back in Spiro

[acoustic osprey]

(i wish we would get U2's eucalyptus trees)

also
ARBORBURST REFERENCE!!

[lethal moat]

I kind of hope this is how a neuro attack would feel https://youtu.be/s2y0k1vtNWo?si=kEMMGr5t9Vm5ycuY

[clever vigil]

ngl

reaper without his scythes feels so incomplete to me

that was one of the parts of the design I really liked about it

but it's still cool

[strange shell]

Scythes were too edgy, I see what they're going for now

They also make less sense biologically-wise

But it's true that a reaper with no scythe sounds weird

[clever vigil]

yeah :/

They should make em like retractable or something

[strange shell]

I hope they'll somehow make it so that it feels like a reaper in its behavior instead of by its looks

[clever vigil]

Yeah, even tho it doesn't have those cool blades anymore though, Iove the fact they removed the eyes

[strange shell]

Kinda like Fatalis in Monster Hunter ?
This guy is just a plain ass dragon, but the moment you see it you know you're facing death itself

[clever vigil]

I wonder how it will sound if it's ever implemented

[strange shell]

Not having eyes seems to be a big part in the new Gen 1s design

[clever vigil]

yeah

[strange shell]

Either like a bat or like batman

[clever vigil]

But holy, it looks so cool

If they ever add him into the game (In 2050), i'm gonna edit his model to have his blades back lol

there seems to be a glimmer of hope, at least for me cause I'm so obsessed with this design

I wish tapwing could see this 🙏

[wary stone]

how can i get in the lore discord?

[lethal moat]

https://discord.gg/bATb7RnvMk

[wary stone]

Yay thank u

[acoustic osprey]

woohoo

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

makes me ponder how (if) Dondi would orchestrate Echidna's "siren-ing" with human voices

[lethal moat]

“Emergency, seek shelter, do not leave, barricade all doors and do not heed the call.”
*static
“Hey guys, we are now announcing free donuts in the cafeteria for all employees involved in project ||[CENSORED]|| come on down while they’re still warm!”

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/smelling-pie-hungry-starving-gif-13658135

[tulip coral]

Those would be hard to use as weapons, given it has to come in close to use em given they face backwards

if they were smaller they would honestly be a lot better

[clever vigil]

yeah but so would claws and teeth

[tulip coral]

The difference between claws and teeth and those backwards claws is they aren’t in reverse grip

[clever vigil]

Oh wait, yeah I sorta see your point

I meant

[tulip coral]

Reverse grip is hilariously terrible

Like that claw should be going forwards if it is to be of any use

[clever vigil]

I guess he could use em a bit like a praying mantis,

[clever vigil]

I guess it's suppose to be like a blade

[tulip coral]

The think with a preying mantis is it’s claws are meant to lunge forward

[tulip coral]

These claws have way less range

[clever vigil]

idk, I like it thoguh

[tulip coral]

It’s really cool but it’s just impractical

They are just way too big

[clever vigil]

eh

it's a game

[tulip coral]

If it had the big claw on its own and didn’t have the three digits it would make a lot more sense

Like an actual preying mantis

[clever vigil]

maybe if it was on top of it' hand it would be useful

like predator

[tulip coral]

Plus from that photo, it looks like the blade is on the inside of the claw

[tulip coral]

It would need to replace the hand altogether but yeah could work

[clever vigil]

I could definetly see it looking cool though while doing attack animation

[tulip coral]

It would have to hug its prey to use the blades effectively

Great for anything that can’t fight back

[clever vigil]

hmm

[tulip coral]

Also the attachment points seem really weak

[clever vigil]

nah, I could definitely animating something like that to hit forward effectively, if I only had a reaper model

I guess I'll agree to disagree

[tulip coral]

Me over analyzing a fictional monsters ability to kill

[tulip coral]

Fair enough bestie

[clever vigil]

^^

[tulip coral]

I prefer the new art tapwing made anyways

[clever vigil]

I mean, yeah definitely. I like how they removed the eyes, makes it way better

[tulip coral]

I wonder if they would give it a special echolocation feature

[clever vigil]

I love monsters with no eyes, like the demgorgons, death angel and the xenomorph

[tulip coral]

Like if it was pitch black darkness, it could hear movement

[tulip coral]

Yeah fr

[clever vigil]

It would probably be a bit like the night vision, it would give outlines to objects around you when pressing q

[tulip coral]

Thats scent tho

It would have to be a different button entirely

How would it smelling activate echolocation

Plus isn’t that something that is just always on?

Maybe if could “focus” its ears to make it so it can sense more things

Like it has a passive ability to sense movement but it can amplify it by holding a certain button or something

Maybe F

Like it’s sending pulses or clicks into the world so those clicks can bounce off of a target and return to the creature?

[clever vigil]

nah, I meant think of it likes this, you press q then you start making clicking sounds, which would highlight close by objects white

[tulip coral]

Maybe it could have a first person mode?

[clever vigil]

Like you can scan certain areas and it while highlight them

[tulip coral]

Specifically for the clicking

[clever vigil]

yeah

[tulip coral]

Like maybe it can also have a built in radar?

Like a very weak one,

[clever vigil]

oh yeah

[lethal moat]

What’s the conversation?

[tulip coral]

About the bat thingy

[lethal moat]

Reaper

[tulip coral]

Idk the name of it

Reaper thats it

We are talking about the possible mechanics of the reaper

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/grievous-general-grievous-gif-25135132

[clever vigil]

do you recon it would be a playable? or like a dev only thing

[lethal moat]

It should attack like this

[lethal moat]

I hope it’ll be something we can earn

[tulip coral]

That is so situational it’s insane

[clever vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-droid-general-grievous-robot-general-grievous-gif-15512920

or thing LMAO

I love general grievous

[lethal moat]

It has the toes for it, and it might glide, so insane climbing would make sense

[clever vigil]

Oooo, maybe it can climb on the sealing with those blades

[tulip coral]

No im saying it’s so situational for the reaper to be directly above something

[lethal moat]

Blades aren’t real, spikes now

[tulip coral]

If it’s like Herrera pouncing let me know

[clever vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-cats-gif-14317670277085954258

[tulip coral]

I was having a whole discussion about how impractical the blades were as weapons

[clever vigil]

They could possibly come back and smaller retractable ones.

[tulip coral]

They are just so awkward to use

[lethal moat]

That could be neat

[clever vigil]

Those would be pefet for climbing on a sealing like a bat, since they face backwards

[lethal moat]

I’d see the reaper as a potentially hyper intelligent bleeder that teams up with gen 1

[tulip coral]

What are gen 1?

I don’t know the lore

[lethal moat]

Uhhhh, I don’t have them saved anymore since my phone got wiped

[tulip coral]

Rip bestie

[lethal moat]

Its the replacement for tribals

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401480573471948821/1273937952719769680/def7aa0cfa61bab073a9d0c8ec7ed05da385b660.jpg?ex=687eb26c&is=687d60ec&hm=f4699d2f53681bea126423cdf6489b3bf8ebdcc1ae3a890bcabdfa3a62224fe3&

[tulip coral]

Isn’t that the cannibal?

[lethal moat]

They might be cannibals, but thats a type of gen 1 that I showed

[tulip coral]

They just look so similar

Also what do you think of my clicking idea?

[clever vigil]

im pretty sure these are the tribals

[lethal moat]

Replacement for the tribals from legacy

[tulip coral]

Why do they look like that

[clever vigil]

Hes just a lil fella

[tulip coral]

They look like the orcs from lotr

[clever vigil]

orcs from orc massage

[tulip coral]

Orcs on some skin care routine

Slayyyyyyyy

[pale marsh]

As i understand the concept pf tribals amd cannibals have merged in ways

[tulip coral]

I see

[pale marsh]

The exact details are unknown last i checked

[tulip coral]

Wanna know what the devs should do to make the island next to the island easier to get to?

[clever vigil]

they are the same, theres vid of dondi saying it

[tulip coral]

They should make it so the water level goes down like for a couple hours and makes a mini land bridge

[pale marsh]

I say that cuz the "eyeless" or old "cannibal" os still its own thing in a way

I belive dondo described it as "gen1.5"

Its wierd its alot pf different names fpr the same, and different things
That have all changed alot since the games early development

[tulip coral]

Also beaches need a complete overhaul, and protoceratops is the perfect dinosaur to introduce a beach revamp

Like nothing ain’t spawning on the beach

[pale marsh]

Generation 1 is likez the first official name fpr these things

[lethal moat]

-# Deimos project

[pale marsh]

Is that old lore?

[tulip coral]

I know a person named Deimos

They were a weirdo

[pale marsh]

Oh? I have so much to catch up on

[lethal moat]

Lore doc is in the pins

[tulip coral]

Also rumple, what do you think of this tapwing inspired Utahraptor fan concept I made?

[pale marsh]

I hear alot pf greek god names but ive never heard tell of someone named after deimos

(Heck i even accidentally named myself after a greek god)

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[tulip coral]

Thank you, I had it in my camera roll for over a year

[clever vigil]

Great dude! I love it

[tulip coral]

It’s elder model could have a more hunched back and more full mutton chops

[clever vigil]

You should send that in art channel

[tulip coral]

I’ve sent it there before and I feel like I need to make something new for that channel

But I haven’t had the motivation to make anything else

[tulip coral]

I was thinking it could be heavier than Omni but lighter than dilo

The reaper should have bad night vision but make up for it with it’s echolocation

[acoustic osprey]

Kinda but not really

[acoustic osprey]

i knew a person named Apollo

they too were quite odd

[acoustic osprey]

I can send the YouTube link if you want, but the concept of tribals and cannibals being merged is kinda accurate and kind of inaccurate. Mostly because it is very confusing.
Alas, we have to understand that there is many definitions for what “tribals and cannibals” mean to people from time and the aisle

That being that tribals, as in the peoples with faces alongside very Humanoid + monstrous, not including the wacky human placeholder, are ONLY referred to as tribals up until 2018.

Where “cannibals”— the ones that have no eyes—, on the other hand, originally were inferred by the community as “cannibals” up till 2018. Now, communally, referred to as “The Eyeless”.

Now there are two important things that happened in 2018:
Dondi had streamed and told everyone that people inferred the name cannibal to the eyeless creature, but actually these eyeless creatures have had a completely separate name which would infer on how to get them/obtain them.
We had also been given UI changes on the faction list for humans, including “tribals”, where originally it had said mercenaries and tribals. It was then updated to just say Generation 1 and Generation 2.

To clarify with the Dondi stream, he also said that the tribal creatures were cannibals.

This does not mean that tribals are the “Cannibal / Eyeless” creatures.
The whole situation becomes very confusing because Dondi never really said that the Cannibals were the ones without eyes. As, beforehand, most people had inferred that it was … which is what Dondi brings up in his 2018 stream

It doesn't help that Catbug had made an animation about it and missed the very IMPORTANT final section at the very end of the clip that she used … therefore even more people have gotten confused because they can't see or find the original clip that gives better context on what he meant

[acoustic osprey]

@tulip coral you as well

[tulip coral]

Sure why not

Send it via DMs bestie

[acoustic osprey]

but it is right above you!!!

oh unless you mean the video / original clip

https://youtu.be/pNJbbshy500?t=583

the biggest confusion comes from the opening quote:

"So your tribals and your cannibals are not two different things"

wait, crap, this isn't the full clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=180&v=MwQEnZRzVLY&feature=youtu.be

this one

[hallow ruin]

holy peak 💀

[acoustic osprey]

because it cuts off (from all the clips besides MeatyLock's one) at 3:00

[tulip coral]

Tyvm

[hallow ruin]

oh hi isaac

[tulip coral]

Dondi should hire me, I have no money /j

[hallow ruin]

i think it would look so awesome if it was digital one too

[acoustic osprey]

BECAUSE THEN HE SAYS
"the creatures on the right" are a separate entity

which is... yeah. Painful that all the clips ignored this one

continued by
"they aren't called cannibals"

[tulip coral]

I can’t do digital cause I can’t afford a tablet

[hallow ruin]

its so funny how isaac looks delusional rn

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lex-luthor-superman-nicholas-hoult-2025-superman-legacy-gif-8666173982385400430

[tulip coral]

rage_baiter.exe

[hallow ruin]

WACOM costs like 40-100$ and its beautiful

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[hallow ruin]

sorry 😭

[tulip coral]

I’m B R O K E

[hallow ruin]

😔

[tulip coral]

I can barely afford to pay for groceries

As much as I want one

I have done digital art before

Mostly tracing to get the hang of it but I can also do feathers quite nicely

[hallow ruin]

i see people saying u NEED a tablet for digital

[tulip coral]

Here is the Utahraptor

[tulip coral]

Wdyt of the detail?

[hallow ruin]

i use my mouse honestly
BUT, i do 3D sculpting, not sure if 2D actually cant work with that

[tulip coral]

Thats probs the best part of it

[hallow ruin]

this is majestic

[tulip coral]

Also what do you think of the idea for the reaper to have an echolocation based ability where it sends out pulses or clicks to get a detailed view of dark places

And make it have bad night vision to act as a counter balance so it relies on its echolocation

Also make it first person since it’s more humanoid than animal

[hallow ruin]

bro that sounds epic

also sorry didnt see this in time i wasnt looking

[tulip coral]

All g\

They call me the cooker

[hallow ruin]

but honestly ig 1st person might be underwhelming
i agree with NV and echolocation tho

[tulip coral]

it dosnt have eyes tho

[hallow ruin]

its like, imagine having and playing as such a crazy creature to just be able to look at its hands

[tulip coral]

it should be blind and be constantly sending out clicks and stuff

[hallow ruin]

which makes 1st person less reasonable

[tulip coral]

How would it work in third person

[hallow ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/let-him-cook-cook-cookin-big-wok-gif-141999319614473134

[tulip coral]

I have no clue how it could possibly work

[hallow ruin]

just like how JC used to have it

1st person implies working eyes tbh

[tulip coral]

no no no you dont get it

It would be blind

[hallow ruin]

3rd person can be excused with "echolocation makes it understand its WHOLE surrounding"
aka aee 360degree..

[tulip coral]

it would be pitch black

[hallow ruin]

like.. the player sees nothing?!

[tulip coral]

YES

But the echolocation lets it see

it would look completely different to normal vision

[hallow ruin]

wait no that doesnt make sense
how are u gonna use echolocation, u cant make it 1/1 realism (actually using sound)
BUT!

you can visualize it!!

[tulip coral]

by sending out clicks, it can get a visual of its environment

[hallow ruin]

aka
constant 24/7 NV outlines, like U5.5 night vision

[hallow ruin]

💯

[tulip coral]

Its clicks would be done by holding down F

It could also have a short distance radar system

[tulip coral]

B-B-B-BINGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Its echolocation visualized

[hallow ruin]

this would be SO funny if new NV is literally dondi foreshadowing reaper's whole vision system
its like NV/scent's radar

[tulip coral]

Why would it smell to echolocate?

smelling and echolocating are two different things

[hallow ruin]

about reaper
i saw yall discussing it yesterday and was gonna mention ive been modeling one actually

[hallow ruin]

nononono
the systme, not the buttons, is what im talking abt

[tulip coral]

Oooo ping me in art discussion when you start modeling it

[hallow ruin]

yk when u click Q and u send radar signal thingy?

[tulip coral]

yeah thats the compass

[hallow ruin]

actually got a good chunk of its base done 🤣
honestly might take a while before being looked at again...

[hallow ruin]

wait no you dont get what i mean
ever seen that sonar type thing when u sniff at night?

[tulip coral]

bros hips are so tiny

[hallow ruin]

lolol didnt do the body side view 😭

[tulip coral]

I have just realized the visualization doesnt make sense

it shouldnt be waves coming from the player, it should come towards the player

[hallow ruin]

wdym

[tulip coral]

Go into the game

you know how when you smell you see those rings radiate away from the player?

Thats a weird way to visualize scent

[polar bramble]

peak

[tulip coral]

Am I crazy?

[hallow ruin]

this is what im talking about...

[hallow ruin]

yay!!

[tulip coral]

Wait you arent listening

[hallow ruin]

yes cuz im telling 😭

[tulip coral]

Im saying the scent visualizer now that I am looking at it it just doesnt make sense

[hallow ruin]

the one IN GAME rn?

[tulip coral]

The circles should come towards the player

[tulip coral]

yes

[hallow ruin]

it makes sense for NV system
but why is it linked to scent? no fricking idea

[hallow ruin]

its meant to be an actual echolocation-like thing

[tulip coral]

WHAT?

No way

[hallow ruin]

yes

[tulip coral]

How can a triceratops echolocate

[hallow ruin]

not LEGIT but
dondi was saying smth like "what if the dino could send those signals out to highlight walls and obstacles"

[tulip coral]

How does a triceratops do that?

[hallow ruin]

afaik not really a feature thats cannon
or maybe it is..

[tulip coral]

You can make the arguement for 2 creatures on the roster

Troodon and Dilo

[hallow ruin]

wouldnt need it i assume lol

[tulip coral]

But every other creature is either a crepuspecular or diurnal animal

How would they be able to echolocate

[hallow ruin]

no clue...

[tulip coral]

so in conclusion

The current scent visualizer makes NO sense

[hallow ruin]

bombastic side eye

[tulip coral]

Me rn: 🤓

[hallow ruin]

generally yeah
but i assume dondi has an excuse for it, or really not.. maybe just a funny thing thats a QoL and makes no sense

[tulip coral]

I like to hyper analyze unimportant things like the scent visualizer

I take over analyzing VERY seriously

[hallow ruin]

its very fun

[hallow ruin]

this is the benift of being an isle lorian

[acoustic osprey]

isle lore theories

[clever vigil]

OMG, please tell me it'll have a rig and textures 🙏 I'm literally dying to have a Reaper model, I'll even give it IK chains

[hallow ruin]

im actually working on a whole set of lore creatures
modeled, textured, rigged etc etc

[clever vigil]

OMG OMG

[hallow ruin]

matriarch is the first on my list, first 3 stages, all equally worked on rn

[clever vigil]

so peak

[hallow ruin]

i knoww im so excited!!

[clever vigil]

I made a bunch of reaper sound earlier

[hallow ruin]

wait what?!

[clever vigil]

wanna hear, it' still very wip

[hallow ruin]

hell yeah!!!?!?!

[clever vigil]

one sec

[hallow ruin]

waiting...
😔

[clever vigil]

sorry man

I was just tweaking it a bit

Should I make idle sounds?

I'll do a danger call to, it' still WIP

[hallow ruin]

GOD I HATE IT WHEN DISCORD DOESNT OPEN VIDEOSSS

[clever vigil]

lol, sometimes I just download the videos

[hallow ruin]

doing that rn

[hallow ruin]

HOLY CRAP

OH LORD

[clever vigil]

u like it?

[hallow ruin]

ITS INCREDIBLE

yo this is actually briliant you gotta invest in doing more of this!!!

[clever vigil]

Thanks man

I also made some Lambeosaurus sounds if your intereted in hearing it in Art Discussion

[hallow ruin]

ive barely seen anyone doing sound design in the isle
its always models or 2D art.. this is awesome

[hallow ruin]

oh sure thing, show me

[clever vigil]

alr

[tulip coral]

where are the clicks

[clever vigil]

u can hear em a bit

[tulip coral]

f call should be a constant stream of clicks

[clever vigil]

It's best heard with headphones

[tulip coral]

I am wearing headphones

[clever vigil]

gud

[grave hare]

thats a front eye

[grave hare]

they need to hire you yesterday

[clever vigil]

LOL

Wedge would do a way better job then me, trust.

[grave hare]

the friendly call is so so so peak

[clever vigil]

yeah, that ones my favourite

[grave hare]

it would be hard tho

[clever vigil]

wdym?

[grave hare]

hard for wedge beatin u

[hallow ruin]

okay nerd 😔

[grave hare]

wait try and make a dino call next

[grave hare]

lmafo

[hallow ruin]

cannibal noises type thing yeah

[hallow ruin]

there IS obviously clicking in the background

[tulip coral]

Well Thats to tie in with the idea of the clicking being it’s echolocation

[tulip coral]

I mean CONSTANT clicking

[hallow ruin]

man just LOOK at this monster

[grave hare]

holy dookie wth? thats so sick what?

[tulip coral]

Dilo should take a Benadryl

[hallow ruin]

lolol dilo be lookin crazy
gotta reduce how silly its teeth looking like tho

[hallow ruin]

yeah im aware

[hallow ruin]

i get you, that should be in F call or smth imo
and echolocation call/button

[grave hare]

i like it, maybe add some of that onto the frill or sum? so th light comes threw?

[hallow ruin]

exactly what im doing rn

[tulip coral]

Exactly

[grave hare]

lol awesome

[grave hare]

show me when ur done or ill cry

[hallow ruin]

it looks iffy cuz of how the quills have been made originally :\

with / without ^

[tulip coral]

I’m the geo guesser

[grave hare]

did u make all the shaders?

[hallow ruin]

it being an idle/genric thing is what i mean being cool
in the calls generally
and having some sort of.. passive echolocation? that barely works but just so u dont get 100% blind

[hallow ruin]

yup its fun! although very time consuming lol

[tulip coral]

Oh there should be a passive clicking

[grave hare]

i can NOT shade for the LIFE of me dawg, thats rly cool

[hallow ruin]

there IS in mecha's calls

[hallow ruin]

lmao i got no clue how i managed to pull it off man
lets not talk about eyes oh my god... or the mud/dust/moss...

[grave hare]

lol ima try making a mud texture now

[hallow ruin]

while reverse engineering that i realized they just use a solid color for the muddy dinos

this is it, or very similar
6C5136

[grave hare]

as good as its gonna get

[acoustic osprey]

isle lore theories

[grave hare]

i think dinosaurs arnt real

[grave hare]

it was all a dream

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[grave hare]

lol

[muted reef]

The Isle was all a dream

[honest temple]

so can someone tell me about the hypos and the actal monsters they are adding to this game and what they are?

[young viper]

You can read more about the lore in the pinned messages of this channel!

[fast forge]

I would but I'm too sleepy I'm sorry

[honest temple]

i get it lol

[wicked brook]

Strain pics I have

[fast forge]

not official

[wicked brook]

Yeah but still

[wicked brook]

Strains are experimental and come in three types

Neuro, Hypo, and Tisso which may have been scrapped.

Neuro has thin sometimes transparent skin, scaleless, and no eyes. They see through electromagnetic fields I think and have strange abilities like telepathy, emp, glowing residue. They also have some bioluminescence.

The Hypo is a larger more armored version of the animal with a super fast metabolism it heals quickly and is tough but it is also constantly starving

[honest temple]

thank you gamer

[young viper]

And then we have the Gen1's as retaliation weapons

[fast forge]

you forgot tisso

[wicked brook]

Did Tisso get scrapped?

[fast forge]

no, you just didn't describe them

[wicked brook]

I could have sworn….

[honest temple]

ah sweet man made horrors beyond my comprehension

[wicked brook]

I wonder if hypo Rex will still sound like a train in the new version

Nero spino

[young viper]

Whoever they are, they are not good people lol

[honest temple]

not suprised

[wicked brook]

Then there’s the matriarch

[honest temple]

so im assuming these creatures are rare and rseult of some kind of testing

[wicked brook]

Yeah, we aren’t sure if they will be playable or just be event based

[honest temple]

prob event or dev stuff

[young viper]

This is personally my favorite lore-related art/image
Whether canon or not

[honest temple]

these look sick

[wicked brook]

It’s like a parasite that steals dna features from it’s victims

[honest temple]

i feel bad for the isle it has so much potental but such a small dev team

[wicked brook]

Definitely a passion project

[honest temple]

thats awesome wth

[young viper]

We also have collossus
(Which from what I remember may have changed a bit since it's been a while)

[honest temple]

biggie cheese

[wicked brook]

Isn’t the idea behind the mother, the bat, and the colossus as like human versions of the strains?

[fast forge]

I'm betting they are the Gen 1 strains

[wicked brook]

Yeah

[fast forge]

tissoplastic reaper looks a lot like some of the gen 1 art

[young viper]

It's been a while since I talked about this but it's probably something related to modified humans or at least involving human DNA.

[honest temple]

i remember seeing hypos and the nero spino in game a while ago

[wicked brook]

Yeah nothing on the isle is natural not even the people

[young viper]

In fact, even humans are modified
They are created with the "perfect" body

Peak human build for survival or something along those lines

[honest temple]

oh

so ive seen rex and people gameplay

is that out publicly?

[wicked brook]

Not officially

[fast forge]

nah people pulled a dev version out of the game files

[wicked brook]

But the devs are ignoring it

[honest temple]

lmao

ok fair enough

[wicked brook]

I say let them play with the outdated toys

[honest temple]

agreed

[wicked brook]

The tossing bug is hilarious

[acoustic osprey]

and once it is... we get lore video... WOOHOOO

[honest temple]

i hope enirma keeps getting dinos

[acoustic osprey]

oh jeez i might have to actually finish my augustus video, uh oh

[honest temple]

i like it and i just want some bigger bois

[honest temple]

dew it

[wicked brook]

Considering the species list yeah that will continue

[honest temple]

YAY

[wicked brook]

I really want a sauropod soon

[honest temple]

i want spino or any big apex

herbs need a vibe check

[wicked brook]

The Shant

[honest temple]

yk i want grabs

like a rex grabing that things neck would be cool

[wicked brook]

Definitely

[honest temple]

or behind a cerotopsians head like how they couldve done it irl

just to make pvp and ambushes something neat

[wicked brook]

Been difficult with the frill in the way but yeah maybe a finisher type move

[honest temple]

yeah

[wicked brook]

An animation that plays once the battle is won

[honest temple]

agreed

but back to lore i love the idea of these arent dinos but monsters that look like dinos

[wicked brook]

I’m hoping for interactions between big Dino’s and the small. Like being able to cling to the side of sarupod or a bunch of smalls following around big ones to scavenge the leftovers

[honest temple]

AGREED

like raptors should be a problem for bigger dinos

[wicked brook]

What if a large herbivore player had small ai spawn and follow them loosely

[honest temple]

thatd be sick

just the feeling of being hunted

[wicked brook]

Players could blend in with the ai as well lol

[acoustic osprey]

this is what we had in Legacy, at least

User Inquiry: Reaper
Tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject. Initial results proved fatal.
Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.
There are 12 active specimens

"human subject"
what type of human? who knows though

oh and Echidna too

User Inquiry: Echidna Neurotenic abnormalities generated inside of a human specimen. Subject Location: Unknown Status: Missing.

[wicked brook]

Awesome

[honest temple]

yeah and eventually have them do an attack where they gi all in where if the player wins they are free

[wicked brook]

Fun lore tidbit the map name Gateway is Gateway into Tartarus

[dense sedge]

Real Tartarus empire still exist and evrima is a hint of it. Hinting us dinosaurs that also still exist you just gotta use your eyes.
Knowledge isn't free, you gotta pay attention

Goodnight

[lethal moat]

Potentially controversial, I think the group of towers near the docks might be Gateway’s Olympus transmitter

[acoustic osprey]

then D Section int. would be the tunnel below it!!!!

although
it is likely that D Section int is actually inside the site of Olympus Transmitter

well, the "sites/facilities" Olympus Transmitter
(that being, we don't know if each facility and/or site ||island|| has its own Olympus and/or Olympus Transmitter)

[lethal moat]

Is there one olympus transmitter, or are there many

[acoustic osprey]

ye, basically what i had to edit into my message...

because there could be one Olympus CC per 'site' / facility / operation (?)

we just... yeah... lack any sort of idea on that regard atm

[hallow ruin]

i love shant so much

[hallow ruin]

reminds me of an old mobile game that had same thing

Dino hunter? carnivore? or smth

[barren ruin]

honestly to me the question is gonna stay "Will Apollo ever learn the differences between the scientific meaning of Hypo and Hyper?"

[acoustic osprey]

more so
will the community...

[barren ruin]

fair i'm guessing the higher ups either have the money to throw around to force oxford dictionary to change the definitions, or they have much bigger things to worry about rn than scientific definitions

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
it is accurate in-lore

it literally is just a community error thing started by the devs / in progression

[barren ruin]

sorry i could've been clearer in what i meant, was thinking of what if it was an in lore issue

[hallow ruin]

the lore always said Hyper

but devs accidentally said hypo, maybe as a meme intentionally

also game files had "Hypo"

although Hyper is always the canon

[acoustic osprey]

oh lol

i mean, it would be funny if it was an easter egg of some sort haha

[cerulean epoch]

Wait, is there someone in here connecting this game to Great Tartaria Mudflood conspiracy stuff?

[hexed forge]

Uh I don’t think so

[acoustic osprey]

PSEUDOHISTORY

[pseudo lantern]

they like the AEsthetic

[acoustic osprey]

i just found this comment funny

but it is a solid point
however, AE have back up generators

alongside a dam plus solar panels (i doubt the solar panels would last very long though)

[lethal moat]

Geothermal and hydroelectric

[acoustic osprey]

for Gateway, i'm kinda 50/50 on geothermal

at least
for me it depends on whether that first admin/industrial hub is within the volcano

if it is not there, then potentially they used geothermal

however, on other islands? I could 100% see geothermal being used
although, i suppose it depends on context

unless AE were able to harness the volcano? don't think they have that ability to terraform

[short parrot]

What is AE

[acoustic osprey]

basically the company focused upon in The Isle

[lethal moat]

Apollo Engineering, a genetic engineering company thats a subsidiary of the larger Apollo corperation

[acoustic osprey]

^

[short parrot]

So thay made the dinosaurs?

[acoustic osprey]

originally started within the world of botany
although moved over to food, then somehow easily went to 'dinos'

[acoustic osprey]

practically, yes

[short parrot]

Oh ok

[lethal moat]

They controlled the replicator, which is the systems of machines that makes the dinosaurs, and they likely made the replicator as well

[short parrot]

So why can you play as humans how did they get there

[acoustic osprey]

such a machine also has subsystems that create / harness (?) profiles (i.e. Human minds)

[acoustic osprey]

we're kinda unsure on specifics, because the origin and spawning of Humans have been pretty much on debate and changing every year and the what now

[lethal moat]

Those are gen 2, “humans” manufactured by apollo to do what they need them to

[acoustic osprey]

but from what we can see
Gen2s (the main human faction we play) are potentially workers for AE
and are, as Rumple said, manufactured / created by AE (The Replicator as well? who knows)

[short parrot]

Ok so where is the islands we play on?

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664857833132523559/1262417306319847434/2x.gif

we don't really know

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-squeeze-wring-gif-13961786945803639795

[acoustic osprey]

guesses are maybe South East Asia, South America ... Central America ?
But, yeah.

This is just Gateway, though

we don't really know anything on 'other' in-lore islands

besides one other one, which may never officially come (cough)
called The Preserve

[short parrot]

Oh what about neare the equater

[acoustic osprey]

definitely
Gateway's placeholder name was Isla Velada

so it could be Central America-ish / near the equator there!

[short parrot]

So why is there something like a settlement

[acoustic osprey]

on Gateway?

[short parrot]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

like these things, yeah?

[short parrot]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

these are basically old AE buildings left behind

but why? well...

[lethal moat]

There’s the docks, the outposts, the domes, and whatever ends up being underground

[acoustic osprey]

potentially we have a series of incidents, although we don't have any "hard lore" on any of these events

why did AE leave Gateway? and likely all other islands we may play on

[short parrot]

So I am guessing they left because the dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

likely not, honestly.

[lethal moat]

I’m sure sabotage was involved

[short parrot]

Something more sinster

[acoustic osprey]

we see, on the 'most recent' Lore video on the YT channel, that they (even during times of operations) let a lot of dinosaurs roam around Gateway pretty freely

[short parrot]

Mabey d-Rex kinda stuff

[acoustic osprey]

these programs of letting in such were called "Injections" as well

[short parrot]

Mutant

Dinos

Like hypos from legacy

[acoustic osprey]

potentially
i wouldn't be surprised if things from Tartarus potentially push workers away and out somehow

[lethal moat]

Tartarus has monsters maybe (unofficial art)

[lethal moat]

Hypers, neuros, and tissos are making returns

And there’s gen 1

[short parrot]

Are hypos involved

[lethal moat]

Hypers

[acoustic osprey]

(legacy, yes ... Evrima? potentially. At least SYNTHs seem to be)

[lethal moat]

But yes

[acoustic osprey]

hypo = hypers
-> Hyperendocrins

these big fellas

[lethal moat]

No tusks smh

[short parrot]

What does legacy have to do with evrima

How did legacy move to evrima

[lethal moat]

Previous iteration of the game, lots of inspiration, but not guaranteed to have everything from legacy in Evrima

[acoustic osprey]

only a tiny bit
as in, some themes but mostly specific and important things are coming back

like EIPs (profiles - player minds)

[lethal moat]

Its just game types, lore isn’t connected

[short parrot]

Oh

That is sad

I loved legacy

[acoustic osprey]

we had a recode because 'code' was bad in late 2018/early 2019

[lethal moat]

There’s lots of recycling of ideas and whatnot from legacy

[acoustic osprey]

roughly the same foundation
just with a different topping

[lethal moat]

I like chocolate syrup, not whipped cream

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[short parrot]

lol

So legacy has nothing to do with evrima

[acoustic osprey]

technically nothing, yeah

[lethal moat]

There are repeating ideas and themes, but they are entirely disconnected

[short parrot]

Ok

[acoustic osprey]

excluding the old connection of Primal Carnage and Isle Lore being together
that is no longer the case

[short parrot]

Wait primal carnage was connected with the isle

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, for a few years

[short parrot]

How?

[acoustic osprey]

that being, because Dondi worked on the original game

[short parrot]

Ok

That is cool

Ok i gtg bye!!!!

[lethal moat]

Peace out

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-17500258755908763204

if you ever want to learn more, we're always free to answer any questions

i'd also recommend this document
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

good summarisation of everything we know for current lore
also in the pinned messages section

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/M4WU8gqrgsQ
What if TOMB actually really wasn't eradicated by force of a rival company and/or organised peoples

but, over time, the true understanding of what actually had happened faded away and was eroded by the greed, envy and aggression of the successors of Apollo / Apollo Engineering
which of whom likely, potentially, yearn and lust for the power of those who came before who originally were in power...
turning into a misremembered recounting of what actually happened to TOMB

This is mostly a joke-ish statement
But I think misinformation easily grows and rots away the simple truths of life, especially moments and events
hence, we get mythology and tall tales, stories of old that become no longer history.

[barren ruin]

geothermal is usually a very safe form of power generation given theres a good degree of separation between the heat source usually molten rock or extreme friction in ferrous rock and the water or gasses that convey that pressure or heat to turbines or generators.
i doubt AE wouldnt have been able to build such a thing near a very dormant but not dead volcano. (i assume dormant not dead because of the regular updrafts and what seems to be very warm limestone waters in the caves)

that said if you ever find a rock formation or especially just a loose rock that seems to stay warm no matter what, dont touch it XD

[acoustic osprey]

more so that the actual volcano is quite likely basically gutted inside with human buildings

which i would doubt would be safe if the volcano was still active

[barren ruin]

aslong as pressure/gasses can be released to prevent build-up of a dome it "should be safe" similar things are done in the Canary islands, ofc not to the degree AE would have to if they decided to build the mount Cheyenne complex inside one

[acoustic osprey]

but mount Cheyenne complex is not a volcano, no?

[barren ruin]

if you ever get to visit Lanzarote, they have a grill bar there where they cook over a live vulcanic vent of about 3 by 3 meters round

[barren ruin]

not definitely not, its a US military base built inside a nearly solid granite mountain if im not mistaken.
but building on/near active vulcanos isnt new, just quite recently we've started getting the tech and science to slightly build into them

with how control freak AE can be as a whole though, it is much more likely they wouldnt run the risk.
but since they are also decades ahead of their time in development they might have figured out what we havent yet

[terse sundial]

what is ''all-father''?

[lethal moat]

Code name for magnatyrannus in legacy, no longer canon

[acoustic osprey]

Long story short, Legacy had something called Operation Inferno
Basically they stole a bunch of assets from Phoenix International

They took Big Daddy, which died iirc, and was the explicit Rex from Primal Carnage

AE used it and created Project All Father, which was their first attempt at making a perfect organism

which turned out to be Magnatyrannus solus

[hallow ruin]

solus?

[gaunt dawn]

Release the lore

[lethal moat]

Let us once again study how water infrastructure has changed the landscape of Gateway

[gaunt dawn]

No

I dont like studying sorry

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-gif-1658594234228471496

[hexed forge]

Well the Atrium seems to be getting its water from Swamp and then pouring it out into south plains.

[hallow ruin]

what if that was them fixing a flood
(drowned viewing platform reference...)

[lethal moat]

Alright, but what about the massive dam that redirects waterflow down into swamp, or how there seems to be areas where water may have once flowed but no longer does

I’m very much of the belief that swamp is relatively new

[hexed forge]

This calls for a map to be made of Gateways water flow

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[lethal moat]

Yis

[hexed forge]

Gonna try and make one rq

[hexed forge]

this is a mess but I tried

Blue = Water created by a source of Rainwater/groundwater
Brown = Recent Dried riverbed
Purple = Sewer Water
Yellow = Pipes that water flows in
Black = Dams

Major sources of waterflow circled in red..

yeah doesn't look good lmao but oh well

I do think that Eastern Docks gets its water from East Jungle Lake

Would be cool to see water treatment stuff in GUTS under that lake. Maybe thats how we get tunnels that are sunken.

[sleek ember]

My theory is that the company that made the assets there were probably say Hypos that are hidden under ground

[median shuttle]

There's some more dried out riverbeds

[hexed forge]

Where? I forgot most of them

Oh highlands ravine

And then goes down into the ocean

Anything else?

[median shuttle]

The highlands river and one at the new west access pond

There's a few that go down to the ocean tbh

[hexed forge]

honestly doubt most of those were actual rivers, just small streams of water that lasted like a day or two. Making the land erode.

but yeah highlands river is definitely one

[median shuttle]

Those streams have to last more than a few days to erode terrain effectively

[hexed forge]

Doesn't have to be a constant stream to erode tho right?

If it rains almost every other day for example, then thats enough for it to erode without creating a big stream

Land is wet

[median shuttle]

Well yeah if theres extreme rainfall and subsequent flooding erosion can occur rather quickly

But that erosion is usually ground erosion, rock erosion like on the northwestern coast is usually driven by a more constant overtime flow of water, the ocean obviously also plays it's part in that but some of the valleys on the northwestern coast look more like river driven erosion

[lethal moat]

Tartarus

Honestly? This is another viable spot

[median shuttle]

Idk evelation wise it doesnt make sense cause the pool the water would flow from already has a waterfall lower than the bridge/gate thingy

[hexed forge]

yeah true

[hexed forge]

no, doesn't work.

[hexed forge]

I was thinking of the trails that go down to the beach on the northeastern beach for some reason

[fast forge]

That area is rough and doesn't look natural, so I think it is an area that will get some kind map update eventually. I hope highlands river comes back, but who knows what they'll do

[hexed forge]

I think it'll only come back if they figure out how to make water on a slope work.

Unless they just go the route of making the river have several "levels" just like North River.

Or they just put a dam in there and end it short lol

Either way its definitely becoming a major hotspot if it comes back

[fast forge]

yeah I think they'll just do the cataracts that we've seen on other rivers

Some rivers have a little bit of a slope, but the old north river was very sloped and that made it buggy, so I don't think they'll do that again

[hexed forge]

Hear me out,
Turn that part of the West Access coast that the highlands river leads to into a large cliff and then the river basically leads off of it. Creating a waterfall into the ocean lol.

There was a location exactly like that on V3 and I want that back

People always nested on that cliff,
Also gave me Lost World vibes

https://tenor.com/view/t-rex-dinosaur-gotcha-trapped-scary-gif-16077296

Specifically this scene

Ofc not shown in that gif but a couple minutes later their truck was thrown off the cliff.

This is the place Im talking about on V3

People always nested on the side of the cliff, cool fights broke out

PERFECTT Opportunity imo.

Also makes it so you dont have to break the river apart into levels all the way down to the coast

[fast forge]

I have been thinking recently that the NW area might get some waterfalls. I thought that the area above that new NW pond looks like it could have a waterfall some day

idk, it would be fun

[knotty locust]

I like what you’re trying to do here

[hexed forge]

what am I doing

[knotty locust]

waterways of gateway

interesting prospect

[hexed forge]

thanks

[acoustic osprey]

also Spiro

[tulip coral]

I just really dislike river delta, it’s so difficult to traverse

[fast forge]

The Hydrology of Gateway

a YT idea that's been kicking around in my head, but lower priority than others

[hexed forge]

Yes but that one was ugly !!!

Moreso it was dense

[shell spire]

what do you guys think the water access buildign was used for

[fast forge]

containing animals

[icy onyx]

Gotta get to know the map, a few places have log bridges and shallows where you don't have to swim. I marked all these places on my map.

[ornate comet]

Accessing the water

[mild cairn]

question, does anyone know what level of keycard is supposedly the highest one?

What's the order of hierarchy here? Is 5 the highest, or the lowest?

[lethal moat]

My guess would be purple being the highest clearance

[languid crow]

holding semiaquatic animals

[mild cairn]

Sorry for the ping lmao
I thought I might have seen somewhere that level 1 was the highest, is that confirmed? I wasn't able to find where that was mentioned, I might also be misremembering things

[lethal moat]

No idea, whoever logged into the terminal to access the Augustus video was level three clearance, which doesn’t really mean anything, I think 5 will be the highest

[hexed forge]

yeah I feel like Level 5 is the highest, when compared to the rest of the levels.
But I still think there would be a special level above 5

[acoustic osprey]

If anything, 5 is the highest from what we've seen yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Ye
Like an Olympus status or something

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

And maybe one below lvl 1 for Tartarus lock

[mild cairn]

Alr, thank you

[acoustic osprey]

No worries! Hopefully we'll see the use of keycards and their meaning once humans are properly in

[acoustic osprey]

from kissen last night

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-wheres-mark-william-omni-man-meme-you-are-not-safe-invincible-gif-12200603688986882222

[acoustic osprey]

also was gonna reply to this

current at Water Access, we don't truly know
But, there is currently (hidden within it) is a DTA

i.e. Dinosaur Transportation Area

so maybe some sort of semi-aquatic holding facility?

only thing is, the gated pool area isn't very effective for semi-aquatics (in terms of safety regulations - open ladders that could allow any personnel being snatched right up)

potentially, the actual lake itself contains aquatics and/or semi-aquatics

where the gated area might be for machinery being submerged (Water Access' pool being gated, as aformentioned), then set out

although, definitely could you make up several theories on it

but the DTA is, at least for me, definitely a sign for what it might be

[acoustic osprey]

something that was brought up in lorecord

where the dibble that goes into the Atrium

potentially, was it a GUTS tunnel?

would (most / some / all ) GUTS tunnels, though, interfere with the chiptracking hardware?

even if that wasn't through GUTS

albeit
i suppose that also depends
would AE allow them to go through GUTS?

I mean, from what we can get at, GUTS is supposed to be for Human transport (by default)

Anyway, I was just ponderin' that

[lethal moat]

I’d say it was likely, I believe there are currently open guts entrances in the atrium correct?

[acoustic osprey]

mmm, i'll have to double check

i think there's a few proper ones around

then a prototype tunnel-ish-esque thing inside the actual Atrium

good to double check though, definitley will now

[acoustic osprey]

even tap responded! This is really sick

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/starvel-happy-gif-3126431309584006446

[acoustic osprey]

ah, technically this GUTS tunnel could

although it is a bit on an angle
facing a bit left of the Atrium
but could curve / split off under the Atrium

[hexed forge]

But can a satellite track a Dibble that deep underground?

[lethal moat]

I’m hoping there’s a project Daedalus

[hexed forge]

I don’t think the Dibble went through that GUTS tunnel,
Theres a cliff with a pathway that runs along swamp. If you follow it long enough there seems to be some sort of opening for an entrance to Atrium IIRC

That’s what I think is more believable

[lethal moat]

Could be predictive of where you know they went

[hexed forge]

ehhh

[sonic notch]

Could be GPR too, Ground Penetrating Radar

[hexed forge]

I don’t think satellites have GPR
Unless AE decided to develop one with it

[sonic notch]

Does it ever explicitly say they're tracked off satellites? That image didn't seem to.

[sonic notch]

Gotcha, ty, missed that bit.

[cursive pine]

Is that true?

[lethal moat]

Do you think the higher ups at AE regret some of their decisions, or do they think it’s still worth it?

[lethal moat]

Better question, does Apollo or AE have a slogan

[low scarab]

I imagine it similar to severance where they are already into it far enough it would be stupid to try and backtrack

[low scarab]

Sorta like in primal carnage the “for all mankind” or smth

Or ig extended to just phoenix corp in general

[lethal moat]

Well yeah, but you can still regret things you continue to contribute to

[low scarab]

If it’s the price of saving humanity maybe they’ve already considered the cost of their decisions?

[lethal moat]

Bite the bullet, and/or make horrible mistakes with horrific consequences

[lethal moat]

I forgort about that

[low scarab]

Btw sell us your soul

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/once-upon-a-time-rumplestiltskin-mr-gold-magic-all-magic-c-omes-with-a-price-gif-17585318

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

@hexed forge this is you

thanks

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-house-dr-house-hugh-laurie-foreman-gif-10655037594432727957

Bill AE49 unfortunately did not pass

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-wheres-mark-william-omni-man-meme-you-are-not-safe-invincible-gif-12200603688986882222

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/isjsLtZcqy0
erm

[hexed forge]

Google told me most satellites dont use GPR... 😔

[acoustic osprey]

if anything, AE would spend top dollar for tracking assets...

but, honestly, i don't mind either/or (in terms of GPR)

[hexed forge]

I mean either way I don't think it went through that tunnel

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps

both dibbles go through the same route
unless that was Tiny

where is the old / original gif?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1302536122055921705/Diabloceratops_Migration_Data_Long_Gif.gif

[acoustic osprey]

ah yeah, both of them go through the same path

hmmmmm

[echo gazelle]

For a better tomorrow

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-legos-lego-movie-the-lego-movie-lord-business-gif-14918893678110562201

[acoustic osprey]

Pri...

[hexed forge]

PRIMAL CARNAGE

RAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[fast forge]

I believe on Don's stream wherein we saw the "Visitor Center" in swamp, there was a GUTS tunnel heading into the cliff in that area
It was next to that big saltwater lake/lagoon, that cliff wall right under the south plains sanctuary

I'm pretty sure I pointed it out at some point

#isle-lore-theories message
yeahhh

[echo gazelle]

There is techically one there but the Dibble video is old

[fast forge]

"Tunnel
(To Aviary)"

[echo gazelle]

Oh wait, the grid map is from that dibble video but the entry came afterwards afaik

[fast forge]

Aviary btw is a different name for the dome than "Atrium", and is used to contain birds

[hexed forge]

When the South Dome was still present

[fast forge]

was the dome around for this stream?

[hexed forge]

It was most definitely referring to the South Dome

[fast forge]

I thought that was the same time period where it was removed

[hexed forge]

Yes

[fast forge]

the stream was last december

[hexed forge]

December of 2024,
Yup, definitely around lol

[fast forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

No, dome was gone four months before that

I've got you quoted

[hexed forge]

WAIT WHAT

THE DOME HAS BEEN GONE SINCE 2024

WHAT

[fast forge]

almost a year

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-marvel-studios-marvel-future-revolution-marvel-future-fight-gif-26118243

Time feels wrong

oh my December 2024 was Maia HT

That felt like a month ago

Sorry Im having a crisis

[fast forge]

yeah it was 8 months ago

[hexed forge]

oh my

[echo gazelle]

I am sorry. I am quotatious

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-hmm-sip-smile-look-gif-17756970

[acoustic osprey]

Insert the v3 2019 concept map

[lethal moat]

Within the context of that quote, a plant that eats metal would be very useful for de-industrializing an area before it can be repurposed

Stage one, clear out stragglers with gen 1 or gen 2
Stage 2, demolition with metallivore and potentially others
Stage 3 plänt
Stage 4 populate with fauna

[acoustic osprey]

Omnisaur...

[hexed forge]

Indeed

[fast forge]

Ecologists call that "Habitat Remediation"

Remediation is the removal of pollutants

Rehabilitation is the introduction of plants and animals to strengthen the ecosystem

[acoustic osprey]

I'll be honest
I don't think the quote was referring something like that

[lethal moat]

Probably not

But why else would you have a plant that eats metal

[acoustic osprey]

Not the plant but the old Olympus Transmitter quote

[lethal moat]

I know what you meant, but my idea still has merit unrelated to the quote

[barren ruin]

a friend of mine works for the Dutch forestry in a "nature graveyard", they do use certain plants that help break down non toxic materials from artificial implants etc

guessing similar strategies can be used to break down buildings quicker, theres quite a few vines that are very well known for busting open concrete

[acoustic osprey]

(this is what i mean)

insert the whole picture, i just can't find it on my laptop

but referring to the sacirifical obelisks and temples

i do believe what Don wanted
was to transition to a proper lore map

kinda like how the map we play on of Gateway wouldn't be (and almost quite likely ISN'T) the final product that highlights proper in-lore Gateway

where, in this case, Gateway is in constant development
versus v3 would've been, likely, redone to adhere to how v3 should look like

of course, this quote comes from Prime Legacy as well
back when, in the context of the idea of ludonarrative, lore almost always = in-game

i wouldn't have been surprised if, if recode never have had happened, that there would've been some sort of lore aspect showcasing the transition into the proper map

to show that we're now moving into the present/some sort of future after old v3

||although, that tweet could've just been it in that regard lol||

[acoustic osprey]

this was when east (iirc) dome was in the air

[hexed forge]

Sorry I got lost in time

[acoustic osprey]

so we didn't know if that dome was gonna stay or not

guh i remember this!!

but yeah, this was still when the other dome was poofed

[hallow ruin]

we

[acoustic osprey]

Aren't we all...

How is it almost August

It's been a long time since we've gotten hard lore at the moment
Honestly, i think it's fair to say I'm definitely a bit disappointed

[nimble fractal]

It's WHAT

[acoustic osprey]

yeah...

devblorg next thurs...

[frozen totem]

@acoustic osprey https://youtu.be/vSTdvmVrqCM what was this about i aint watching the whole thing

yello?

https://tenor.com/view/answer-me-happy-gilmore-gilmor-answer-answer-the-phone-gif-207156112162946282

I saw you typing

[barren ruin]

the video itself tells you what its about

[acoustic osprey]

Just to begin with, I did two streams because the first one crashed midway, so I had to do a second
But basically, it's a very long stream that I could have turned into a video just talking about my disappointments being part of The Isle Lore community

And I've said it many times throughout the stream, I throw no shade to anyone, to no developers, not to Dondi, to no one
I think at least a few others feel the same way, but I feel a bit tired at how we’re at the bottom of the ladder.

To sum it down, because I know I could probably go on for ages talking about it, the two streams are just me going on a whole conversation about the many examples of us kind of being a second thought … being pushed down to adhere to/for the bigger community of The Isle.

Aka. the actual gaming part of the community.
And of course, it makes sense that lore isn't a main or high priority.
Because I understand that I, throughout the whole two streams, do seem whiny.

And there's no hate, there's no anger, there's no any sort of aggression that comes from inside me about it all, it's just that I feel very disappointed that we're at that point (and have been for quite a while now) with things that are made for us are being either pushed aside or just completely reorientated towards the actual gaming part of the community; a non-lore majority.
This realistically just comes down to, now, what Dondi said recently about the T-Rex-featured lore video
I.e. they don't want to release a lore video because it might cause some sort of uproar cause Rex ain’t out yet, officially.

And, just for me and what I feel like, I find it a shame that a lore video - which of course still is / would be a teaser-esque video - has to be sidelined for the general community.
Especially seeing as, if you look at the sentence/quote, Dondi infers that the video either is finished or is almost finished - ready to be released… hence unreleased.
:/

Of course, this is probably just withdrawal since we haven’t been given some proper hard lore for… more than a year now, technically. Plus, it won’t even be a problem once we do actually get the vid.
But it’s something I’ve slowly noticed from time to time. Is this an issue? I don’t know. I hope it is not. I know Dondi knows we exist (I ESPECIALLY know, and am very thankful for it).
Anyway, I was just ponderin' that

[acoustic osprey]

also i need to watch happy gilmore 2 now...

[frozen totem]

I get it, but yeah I think you're just going through withdrawal

I like lore, but I'll wait patiently

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

again, this isn't the first observation of such / akin

[spare niche]

Yall I havent played for over a year now. Only lore thing I've seen was the Lightclaw Isle Lore video. Have there been any big lore drops or questions answered in the last 1-2 years?

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
👉 👈

[spare niche]

Yes that's where we are

[acoustic osprey]

naur the message above lol

although realistically
all we had, in terms of 2 years-ish

was the Diabloceratops Lore video

(File Recovery: USGX-...)

[barren ruin]

ngl for multiple long standing roleplaying games i've been terribly stuck with a writers block and i know the players understand how what why etc in my life is keeping me from having that creativity, but that doesnt make their dissapointment invalid either

[acoustic osprey]

although
you could count Augustus
depends on when you last joined though

[spare niche]

Man that's depressing :/

so still nothing on why and how they made dinosaurs huh

[acoustic osprey]

the thing is, this isn't a
'no lore, it's so dry' issue
not really a patience thing as Joseph Crane implies

this is more so about being sidelined in regards to content, mainly content that should be lore-orientated

[acoustic osprey]

ironically, we apparently 'know' how they were made / the question was answered

[spare niche]

Man I'd write lore day and night ahah that's why I do Warhammer I can just make shi up

[barren ruin]

i genuinely hope its a case of drawing back the arrow to let it fly, but we will have to see

[acoustic osprey]

but yeah... i think we answered it without realising once...

[spare niche]

it's kinda sad we havent gotten anything big in 2 years 💀

[spare niche]

How where big info loredump me please I thought we dont know why did they need dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

technically, at least in terms of lore, the dibble lore video was relatively substantial
but yeah... really depends on what you count as substantial lol

more so, it doesn't answer those big big questions

[spare niche]

It gave me nothing lmao 😭

[acoustic osprey]

albeit confirms that AE genetically modified plants

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-thing-fantastic-four-first-steps-f4-richie-the-bear-here's-the-thing-gif-10866717939802756885

^
we don't really know if it was from within our Lore podcast episode
or if dondi was referring to such answer being given to us whenever prior he listened to it

[acoustic osprey]

||i don't really get the metaphor, sorry||

[spare niche]

So it.. wasnt? Don is making it way too confusing I feel 😭

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664857833132523559/1262417306319847434/2x.gif

[spare niche]

but if there's an answer somewhere please send me

I watched the lightclaw videos and there wasnt an answer to that yet

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
#isle-lore-theories message
#isle-lore-theories message
#isle-lore-theories message

if THESE are anything

definitely no answer though :/

great takeaway, at least for me, would be this quote about Dinos

They're unfortunate and necessary.

[barren ruin]

well if it means anything, i only started playing after watching your lore vids. i enjoyed watching content but lore dragged me in

[acoustic osprey]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYWpnMDVzOHJyaXE1cHZidnRnem5mbGJnMmt2MG9xdjhlYmt4NWF1dCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3zGR6KPBYmZjLtcp6B/giphy.gif

always means a lot though to hear stuff like that though 😅

me and isle lore have a funny relationship, i imagine it is quite funny seeing ... yeah most walls i write here

[barren ruin]

more then welcome man, dont think i ever mentioned that before.
but most of my gaming buddies need there to be a story they need a game to make sense in its own world

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, real

i would love a Sons of The Forest (but Isle) copycat

more of that story focus rather than subtextual / worldbuilding focus

[barren ruin]

what im definitely curious about in a worldbuilding sense, what the hell broke out of the water access containment

[acoustic osprey]

or in?

honestly, probably not (in terms of in but...)

but looking at Water Access
it seems weird for it to actually in-close any sort of aquatics in there

however, seeing as it has a DTA
i am probably wrong

[barren ruin]

its a weird location to keep aquatic creatures unless its specifically a freshwater only species.
if something broke in i'm wondering why it did no further damage other than possibly eating whatever was kept inside

also where is whatever broke in/out now?

[acoustic osprey]

i like how we have a few things like that that have clear 'destruction / movement' paths

just makes you curious if it has some sort of proper purpose

[barren ruin]

yeah it makes me wonder if its a connect the dots puzzle at times

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[barren ruin]

maybe if we follow a specific path of destruction we might find something

[acoustic osprey]

(or just the map isn't finished yet so its too soon to really answer 🫠 ....) lol

[barren ruin]

yeah true XD

[acoustic osprey]

i would like to wish... haha

although... thinking about it...

in terms of the future.

Time, species, location. very much fits with something like that

retracing 'footprints'... moments in time
and therefore activating some sort of lore / worldbuilding moment

[barren ruin]

thats what i meant with the earlier analog about the arrow, as if they are dropping small little things that seem unrelated or inconspicuous until the connecting line is made clear and we suddenly see it alot for what it is

[acoustic osprey]

also why aren't you in lorecord 🗿

[barren ruin]

i'm an old man that knows nothing about tech, i'd probs accidentally delete the google doc XD

[acoustic osprey]

lol

would you, mayhaps, like to join the funny discord server though...

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

a problem with it being an indie game / team
but all good things come to those who wait, i do suppose

[barren ruin]

sure i dont see why not, just make sure i'm set to read only for anything important XD

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/coming-in-hot-a-minecraft-movie-minecraft-minecraft-movie-steve-gif-12012645769871785617

[barren ruin]

for a team doing this pretty much on their offtime, i'm definitely impressed

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

i can easily imagine a game full of finalised (and especially high fidelity) world building with Isle

like it most certainly has the ability to do so
just, of course, in a good while

[barren ruin]

all we can hope for is good things coming our way

[low scarab]

Indeed

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

at least a (from the way Don talked about it) produced lore video that contains Rex confirmed

alongside new (and old) glance sheets coming in-game in the Hub (and maybe other areas?)

definitely things to look out for!

[low scarab]

I do understand though gameplay is a bigger deal than the lore and until the game is moving along more smoothly, lore is more of a distraction than anything

[acoustic osprey]

of course... maybe we kinda assumed the glance sheets would've been here a lot sooner...
but, i mean
time has already flown
it will flow again much easier

[barren ruin]

would actually make sense if they release rex with a some extra lore bits here and there in game

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, I think my main concern
which I believe i do not address well

is that the Rex Lore video, by how it seems, is either finished or close to being finished (hence 'unreleased' from Don quote)
which just feels very painful... in terms of delaying LORE thing because of the theoretical non-lore peoples

[low scarab]

Although I do want lore I just understand it’s more of an afterthought until we get some more development under

[low scarab]

Fair

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-say-that-say-that-agian-marvel-fantastic-gif-12441585058103544841

[spare niche]

I know that message but why, that's what I'm trying to find out you know

[barren ruin]

they wanted to release Rex and Trike at the same time if im not mistaken, could be they are holding it back for the release.

[acoustic osprey]

😔

[low scarab]

But he’s not wrong that people would flip out

[acoustic osprey]

i'll send the actual quote

[low scarab]

I just have always felt like game devs as a whole need to relax a bit and just ignore the worst of the bunch

But I have no game dev experience lol just a thought

[acoustic osprey]

yeah but isn't that always the case though lol
"oh why is a video shown! why are they not working on "X" other thing"

response:
"because that is done by "X-type-of-dev" dev and not "Y-type-of-dev"

[low scarab]

Exactly

[barren ruin]

that is painful, though i kinda get it

[low scarab]

People are always going to lose it

[acoustic osprey]

yeah 😔

[acoustic osprey]

this is true
matter of fact
I AM LOSING IT RIGHT NOW RAHHHHHH (this is, indeed, satire)

[low scarab]

So just ignore the noise and keep rolling with the understanding it’s inevitable

[barren ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/black-rage-blood-angels-wh40k-angry-rage-gif-19881088

[low scarab]

[acoustic osprey]

i am curious now on who the voice is
i have never heard Patrick Maney talk before...

[barren ruin]

this is scary close to how those sales intros go XD

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah!
I mean, and i suppose we cannot force Don to pop it out early now
So i really hope they, if they want if need be, refine it!

make it the best goddamn thing i've seen in years
besides, probably, being born

[acoustic osprey]

(and this is real as well. Just VERY very old hahaha)

[barren ruin]

the style of the video is almost 1 for 1 an Argent Arms video

[acoustic osprey]

hm?

[barren ruin]

french weapons manufacturer

[acoustic osprey]

oui oui...

that's interesting though
I do wonder now what the inspirations were of that video ha

[barren ruin]

i'm guessing a mix of pharma agri and military contracting

seeing the different branches AE operates in

[sonic notch]

Isle video that's just the 80s Bradley propaganda reel with a T Rex, same music and all

[acoustic osprey]

insert a bunch of bald eagle freedom screeches!!!
APOLLO ENGINEERING [insert clever thing that, yeah!]

[acoustic osprey]

saying that
we actually have AE propaganda that has apparently been cooked
either made or being made for the in-game

(and if they're any good enough, for my room)