#isle-lore-theories
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Nope, but I was just gonna mute him.
Lol
will all carnivores have a hypo stage in the isle evrima when your able to mutate?
We actually don't know
In lore, I can imagine there being the capability to have all carnis getting strains
But in game? Who knows sadly
considering not all herbivores will, some carnivores also might not get it
We don't know if any herbis will get strains
Just that there is nothing stopping them from getting strains
It would be cool
yup
oh forgot that anky hypo concept was not official dang
was thinking about him
Yeah none of them are... sadly... all Tapwing herbi strains are
But i can imagine them being turned canon
Like drone quetz
I didn't watch TT GO, I don't know what he's saying here 
It would be so awesome
It would be so cool
oh drone quetz was unofficial before we got to see it in devblogs? nice
so we might if they are making hypo herbis those peak desing concepts
Ye
Guys
I think I found juvie rex ambience
Ok I think this will work
20 seconds in
I heard it again as well
thats a juvie trike
17 seconds
im like 90% sure it isnt
maybe actually it is
yeah it is
What server was this on
uhhhhh na4 west? whatever the most populated na west server was
Sure it wasn’t na3?
man u dont know how much i miss it
Is there an official lore to the isle?
Nope
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit Give this a read
The Isle Theory Document Created by: Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin and The Isaac? Foreword by: 1tinydinosaur (PSA: Primal Carnage, both the original and Extinction, are no longer connected to The Isle’s Lore) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or remov...
That sounds amazing
reposting this in discussion to spread max misinformation about rex
Took bro 5 business days to get to that cluster of grass
I love it when people say this lol
Bros forgetting the spooky machine that steals your consciousness
lol
thought it was an ava for a second but yh it sounds like juvie rex
a little changed from legacy
realised i should send this from Scotachi over at lorecord
was just a cool little place at East Lake on HT
-203,542.865, 482,153.946, 27,448.554
makes me wonder if this is the "Ranger office edit"
but, honestly, i doubt.
This is more the mechanic hangar than a ranger office
if anything
this could be a replacement location for the same hangars original at East Dome
i believe this location just being slightly further north
i wonder why this area though for that
it is basically near nothing
besides being pushed away from the Dock because of the Hyper Fence
only thing it is close to is (slightly north of) the cave Wall at East Pond
i mean, if it is there for just looking cool
I don't mind
because as much as i would love the worldbuilding to be 100% logistical
that would be a fantasy. I don't, nor do i think a lot of people, really understand the true logistics of running anything alike to this
the vines are at least
the placement is 100% new
but the vines all around the map are definitely new new
ah alr
I had only seen them at docks
i do hope they add more vines to non-human models
just so it doesn't feel a bit out of place and weird
yeah, like around cliffs and such
a bit of hyperbole by me... sorry
might be misremembering, but the little base at volcano with the silos had some weathering
Still in progress of course
but i do 100% hope that who ever is working on it, does not neglect this #isle-lore-theories message
yeah It'd be weird to have them only on human structures
ye
like the weathering is great
the vines, the 'ageing' concrete
but it gotta connect to everything still
like having a black tooth next to a bunch of shiny white teeth
(of course, i do believe it'll be done in 'due time')
gotta get those GUTS in!
where'd that weird conglomeration of hallways under the volcano go, by the way?
the one that was detached from everything
ehhh, ivy would have been introduced by humans to the island as an ornamental plant, planted near human buildings
Not that I'm saying it couldn't have spread away from human buildings (the fruit can be carried by birds), just that you would expect it to be concentrated near them
Who said it would be introduced? And if it was, who said ornamentally? Ivy isn't exactly a rare and hard to spread plant species, if it isn't native to the island(which tbf most plants probably aren't) it may not have been on purpose
ivy is not native to tropical areas
And what use would it have aside from ornamental? That's literally the most common use for it globally
that's why I said it might not have been on purpose
so I know a bit about invasive plants, and ivy doesn't exactly hitch rides on boats
it is spread around initially because people plant it because it is pretty
then when it blooms and fruits, birds carry the seeds to surrounding natural spaces
alr fair enough
My problem is that they're only on the buildings
Which feels a bit unnatural at the moment
As cerato said, it even includes the Hub
Although I will note, as i found in stream if you want to see it visually
I found out Replay isn't 'very' accurate in showing things
The DTA didn't have weathering in my replay yet the Dock Master did
The tunnel under the radio tower is also invisible, only showing the new 'middle section' stop
@lethal moat this you?
WOAH
Where is that lmao?
Idk 😭 someone sent this elsewhere and I thought it is hilarious
ptera looks like it's almost sitting as well
Might just be a weird texture thing? Some things going invisible and others not? Idk
Hm, so it might be fake?
It would be so funny if it is real.
It’s fake
with its back perpetually bent over as it leant forward to see any microscopic details in the scratches of some random fence that prove the Matriarch is the friends we made along the way
hasn't really happened till now
yeah, it was just a joke
let me find who made it.... forgot their name
it was smifnoff
looks like a classic lorecordian brain though
but what i mean by this
is that the Hub could be invisible
still there
but hidden in replay
sounds like a lot of effort though, so it might be a new replay bug
I doubt it
you doubt it being a bug? yay
I doubt it being an intended feature to hide something in replay
potentially
i think it would be worth while to make in my opinion
it being something now though? I doubt
but
definitely better than just disabling replay
Mhm
although there would be pros and cons to doing so
i suppose, it is better to just disable replays (during a test like this)
mmmm, quite so
OH
i kinda hope they update the 'weathered' texture of the cement of the buildings
to be a bit like mossey cobblestone in minecraft
classic
lol
ShinyDegos showed this as well
which, if you go into replay
has three 'wide' tunnel highways
lol
I hope they finalize and fix them before releasing it onto the evrima branch.. But... Trike is the main concern... so they'll probably set it aside.
it was dark
but from my stream
yeah
I presume this isn't new?
old yeah
Redwoods...
Soon.. Soon we'll have them.. patience..
soon
noos
they already have redwoods terrain in the dome
Indeed
This is the Ranger Office I think, and I do believe some stuff changed.
The chairs and the clock for example
But I think someone might have to go on the evrima branch and double check.
More Ivy on buildings and such
where is this
K15
ah im dumb
Humans soon(tm) 🙏
Harbour Master is great now
Nice and filled, all the rooms.
Basically just a bunch of regular office furniture all over lol
is this a guts entrance
thought i saw something like it but there was no red light
Yup, at Docks
then again i was in replay
ah alr
Concrete and Glass is such a beautiful combo in the jungle
Would be a shame if there were to be a pachy staring at you from the other side of the glass
Oh I gotta play Ptera and check the new stuff out
Looks great
lol imagine a ptera chasing u around an office
peak human experience in the isle
cant wait to get jumped by hypsys lol
where is it?
🤣🤣
lol
Docks
oh nice, it has a red light!
that section
oh and my dog pressed enter
that section was at the unfinished Hub section at volcano
good to see it is being 'practically' used
Yup
(i said this on stream but i REALLY love ceiling to floor windows)
these aren't true ceiling to floor
but they're close enough
this is true ceiling to floor though
and when they're on an angle 
i HOPE they add this building
if not, i might have to make it myself or pay Tamim (if i suck at doing it once modding is in)
i was hoping there was going to be a glance sheet (or two!) in this new area 
don't know why i got my hopes up lol
but we're getting there
haha.... we can only wish...
SOON
i do hope and believe Don meant by his 'when it is finished' is when the Industrial Hub is fiinshed (at volcano, i presume)
So not this HT.. and maybe not even the next one..
maybe when Rex is out...
like we're definitely not giving the most 'up-to-date' map
at least, that is what it seems when we see dondi streams in the engine
Still no visitor center 
i doubt it was real
and more so a red herring
akin to what Don said about the stats in his streams
Man
Sad
It was big ole circular foundation in swamp tho
And I'd imagine AE would have a place for investors/interviewers
'sunken'
Still
no i know, was just adding onto it
cause the sunken part was a nice little worldbuilding bit
Swamp mush
Remember flooded visitor center
Remember flooded visitor center
Is Dilo Dog cannon?
Ben is, Dilo dog is not
explain this
ben
what is ben?
also fan-made
That is ben tho
this is me
Reminds me of the main building in Voices of the Void
oh hey it does kinda look like an AE building
Oh yeah
This is based off dekerrex's artwork of a more 'lorish' ben
However, we have no official artwork or anything visual of Ben yet
- Horror game
- Brutalist architecture
- Floor to ceiling windows (nearly)
Lol
I don't want horror ben, I want awkward silly ben
Either way he'll be shoved into a random tank
I want both
The TANKS
thanks
Ivy
🥀
Technically Ben should be getting a random test tube somewhere tho
Yo @hallow ruin
It’s the cool game
it's really hard to tell in the dark, I'm gonna wait until day
I think there is a small trail, but it's really just out in the brush
Just seems so out of place imo
if the island had been out of use for years it would make sense for some locations and smaller roads to become overgrown
and this one seems really overgrown
There isn't even a fence around it, I don't think the fence would just disappear would it? Even if it has been a long time, it doesn't just erode or get buried into the mud like that.
I'm guessing it isn't totally finished? Maybe?
yeah it has a small path that leads to the road
better daytime look
it's kind only the little garage
never noticed these hatches
fuel storage like a gas station?
I see
Oh I didn't realise it had a cement foundation
Scotachis photo didn't show much
Could be related to this modular piece
Or the same model as the ladder at docks
@hexed forge this is what I think about it
oh
looks like that one concept isaac showed of the 2019 isle with that base in the middle of a lake
please tell me u know it
also you're goated for knowing Voices Of The Void
This?
Hi
I see
I still haven't finished it
i watched it never played it tbh
it and SOMA are really my fav
I learned about it through watching Tomato
yup!
damn, does look cool though
back home, so i have my computer
Nicely creepy
all i feel like it needs is a bunch of 'ripped' posters (AE Propaganda) around the walls
has that vibe
I do hope, once they make that 'propaganda', that it is also weathered
H4 potentially coming soon?
this whole section has been flattened finally
https://gyazo.com/c8b8ef506871130c8eb833daa92c8522
although, a bit more east of it
has a much nicer looking hill
the room, yeah!
what else is new ? and where is it
nothing much
just some additions to the dockyard
that being some weathering
and the some tweaks to the tunnels
Yuppp, saw this while flying over to Docks
i am really just here for the conspiracy's
why.....!!!
it is interesting though to see it being updated
especially now it has been given a bigger facelift than we've seen in ages (cause, it has changed 'a bit')
just not a lot till now
wow
wow.
not sure if its been found yet, but theres a GUTS entrance at -71,082.747, -253,669.291, 39,440.854
Highlands?
the one following the big path at the lake?
bit northwest of it
no its coming out of a mountain ridge in a jungle
@dusk hearth #isle-lore-theories message
some good info there
Thank you I don’t see much of anything about strains and hyper dinos except sum sentences speculating
yeah unfortunately theres not much solid info on them - basically theyre some sort of "corruption" of some dinos that give certain favorable extreme traits
given the name, a lot of people think theyre a sort of disease
theres the potential that strain research was part of an effort to treat some genetic conditions, but theres not much on that except that its not a direct relationship
honestly we dont really even know what most strains look like, except for the hyper rex and neuro spino
tisso strain is almost entirely unkown except for the reaper concept art we got recently-ish
@hexed forge @acoustic osprey @lethal moat @hallow ruin Any of y'all got some strain concept art you could share with this fellow?
Thank you very much
np
oh yeah I think that's one of the oldest ones, got revamped a bit recently
thank you so much for considering im trustworthy for this 🙏
and sure, lot of them
I woke up minutes ago, I gotchu
(Old) but it sums it up and gives a general idea
H-Type (Hyperendocrin)
T-Type (Tissoplastic)
N-Type (Neurotenic)
Short video with pretty much all the stuff except for these
these are the main 3 strains, nothing else exists except for a "Byproduct of Tissoplastic strain"
M-Type (Matriarch) ,which im not sure if would be included as strains
oh wow... 
u lil nerd
😂
Thank you
So strains are referring to tree types?
Orrr
no literally look what at what i said before rumple 
Ok
strains could be either plants or creatures
The Isle Theory Document Created by: Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin and The Isaac? Foreword by: 1tinydinosaur (PSA: Primal Carnage, both the original and Extinction, are no longer connected to The Isle’s Lore) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or remov...
we have a lot more content of strain creatures than plants tbf
Is Indo Rex qualify as a strain?
indominus rex?..... kill this guy
send him to tartarus
Ay bruh just tryna figure it out
the isle isnt related to JP/JW at all
Give the lore doc a looksy
Okeedokee
no one wants to read 40 pages of dinosaur pvp arena game lore
to be honest? the damn lore is WAAAY more fun and cooler than the game itsself
at least evrima, legacy had its vibes 😔
legacy felt like its one with lore and backstory
evrima really looks like a cheap spinoff (honest opinion)
You guys don’t like indorex?
i fricking love it its among my fav
but its a bit crazy to think its in the isle man 😭
Nyope
IT IS IN THE ISLE?!
the most goated creature in the franshise
dude what are you on
Nah facts
Did you not just say it’s in the isle
Indominus-Rex is NOT in the isle

He’s saying you’d be crazy to believe it’s in the isle, because Warner Bros owns that animal
JP/JW is NOT connected to the isle AT ALL
|| well, aside from the isle lore being a JP lore clone ||
Just call it shindorex or sum then boom
oh well i guess we did that!
I’ve got to get ready for work, educate this man and abduct him please TS1
tbh its more madness, and more rex than raptor
1 sec
Good luck
now it works
Stage 4 matriarch (unofficial)
ill try my best 🙏
leave the tartarus keys in their place pls i dont wanna make him late to work
i actually thought of this one but it felt a bit off lol
I’ll leave them under the second flower pot to the right, careful because that one’s Mendys
I like indo red cuz the speed raptorness while still being huge
That’s why Alberto is sick
H rex is just more original
matriarch is a meaningless shapeless skin walker
Ye but look cooler
im liking this dude more
we got more stuff in common
Ay bruh no disagreements after I decided I like austroraptor
lmao i hope i dont get eaten by her if she's the fish the size of a building with 34285 limbs
and 6 jaws
Show him the alberto diorama you made based on the concept art
Lemme see lemme see
uploading
exactly
you're still yet to see Lorecord!!!
Nah bro you made this?
Chat send him to the shadow realm
@hallow ruin Yo
Chat send him to the shadow realm aswell
Did you make this?
hey man, you've been in the lore community longer than me
I was just thinking of people who might have concept art stashed, and who wouldn't mind my random ping
Not new, but still neat!
Just dont approach the ivy... you might fall through the map...
oh oh oh ty omg this is perfect
tamim boo
i am a far better alternative
I will try to include you in my mental list of lore people in future endeavors
sorry mate since i clicked send i had to go off cuz of that internet issue lol
all good
did you make it?
why doesnt it include the details at the buttom 😠
yes? 🤣
youre top 3 now
and you've actually put way more effort in lore than me tbh
and yeah totally dont mind pings, would always be around to help with smth 😄
glorious art youve put together an absolute masterpiece
top 3? on what 
you in my top 3 fellas onthe server
isaac fell out to top 5 cuz of all the ohs and his im too noob to understand
oh come on theres def better guys 🤣
nope not after that masterpiece
thank you mate... i try my best to show my love to this game 🥹
check this you might like it, my fav tbh
#isle-fan-art message
Juvie rex
^
oops the one i sent is a stylized render not the original
but a juv rex
we getting some cool stuff alberto fellas! just gimme time 😈
heres the right one #isle-fan-art message
anways
strains...
looking forward🔥
strains away from their dinosaur forms, also have humanoid ones
so we got H-type human, T and N-type
plus, we also have a creature called "The Matriarch" that is a byproduct of T-type strain
Sick
We need neuro stuff other than the zombie apocalypse 
or tisso dinos
wanna know how they look
i do wish we better graphed these locations before hand...
but! I have no idea
Cerato probably knows
Cerato knew!
yes and no
Not in terms of specifically 'plants/trees' (as mentioned by TS1)
But, that, we are a bit unsure how 'strainy' are Plant strains in contrast to Dinosaur Strains
as most of these new plant strains are really 'new'
so we only have one of each
i.e. they seem like new and individual 'species'
rather than a strain of a pre-existing specimen
definitely
That might be, though, because we've seen more of them
than plants
like we only see one Metallivore
one Mendys
And not "X Plant Name" Metallivore
only thing close is ArborBurst saying "ArborBurst Redwood" (which is what Rumple said)
but... yeah!
We haven’t discussed AE’s leadership or structure in a good minute
bit of a hard question/discussion
jhon cake?
but out of jokes i never heard of a single human name in the isles lore
what do you mean!
Have you never heard of █████.████████ before?
or █████?
or what about Dr.████ █████ !
lol
(these are actual 'peoples' in-lore, just we no known actual name)
thats what i mean
was just wondering if i missed any
or ### BARS B##
in terms of actual names? Closest we had to is the one i just sent
However, we can't dechiper of the whole name sadly
even in legacy lore?
legacy lore had more
(we had names)
Dr Whyse
Dr Drive
Dr Chance
Dr Vega
from the tip of my tongue
there was a bit more, but i can't remember
oh, Damien as well (Khorne)
cool
Dr Chance and Damien were actual islecordians as well
Vega being an old dev
Whyse? No idea
so if closest hint we have is if any of those names were keept into evrima lore
Whyse was used in the Neuro Spino twitter (iirc) showcase
nothing... if anything, they likely won't come back
maybe besides Vega, as a homage to his work in 2014-2018 (2017? can't remember)
why not
but, so far, we basically know no proper Evrima names
which makes me think if we'll ever get names
besides code names and acronyms
like ERRANT-291 or JC346
ye
yeah, but we got confirmation it'd be coming back
with some changes to it
the important part to reconcile is that she was a lot more substanial and important than, say, Damien or Dr Whyse
who were basically one time named characters
hope when ever it comes, its due to another lore hunt and sneaked on a official trailer
what she did in legacys lore?
a huge experiment that was placed to study within Tartarus
She was calculated and very focused, unless most 'animals' - and was a very adaptable organism
Made to coincide with the objective parameters to complete an EIP
thankyou bro
no worries!
going back to this, which quotes?
apologises, was just doing something in the loredoc
you reminded me that i should actually add the 'unknown' characters into the doc lol
but i'll try and find the quotes
i believe this is an interesting insight into how AE/Apollo work and do business, therefore, how their CEO and/or board of directors (however the company is structured) wants to or has to aim the company
therefore, giving us a bit of a glimpse into their past - potentially
why is it that they have no ability to choose what nations/governments to work with?
of course, there could be many theories about such. Nothing defined that could really help us.
hence why i do feel like Rumps question is a bit of a "hard question/discussion"
there is also another quote, but from a stream
a better quote, 100%
and more of a stronger insight into the leadership of Apollo Engineering/Apollo
especially why it may have been created or directed in their early years, at the very least
The world is ending
Lets fix that
but does such a goal turn corrupt over time?
Humans do change, Doctor House!
they do!!
probably my biggest gripe with the show is that his whole mindset of humans not changing is a bit flawed
humans change, and they mostly change for the worse. Especially for money.
maybe that is how they always were? And that those who become 'evil' were 'born' evil?
but i don't believe that people born in the worst situations are, therefore, born 'evil' and stay 'evil'
they just were given poor cards in life, therefore they cannot break out of that system
but does that mean their endgoal in life is to make everything better for everyone?
sometimes yes, sometimes no
Has it corrupted? Sure they’ve been doing bad things, but I see it as a natural progression more than a distortion of values
that is the question
have they changed their plans? Do they work for such 'higher purpose' but with a price-tag (of any kind)?
i would like to see if they stay pure or do what companies almost always do
I believe what AE is currently experiencing is, for the most part, either expected or partially planned for
fair
i suppose i do, more so, mean about if, and if so how, the underbelly has changed over time?
I.e. the subtext of getting to 'x' route/endgoal/plans
however, i can imagine that being the case with bodies that exist for a long time
if AE is and was fairly 'young' (till whenever we play, which AE has clearly lost a lot ||potentially being almost abandoned/powerless||)
then i can imagine their goal, and therefore actions, being quite pure
of course, nothing is ever 'truly' pure in the world or morals... there is always "X" and "Y" opinion
which is what i believe Don refers to with Dino Holy Wars
whether or not that specifically happens. The 'sabotage' (forgot the word Don uses) of TOMB was and had to be on purpose
AEs may of doing things may be a lot more long term
Alas, hard to comment. There is only 'so much' we can talk about, about it lol
on other news
updated the lore doc a tiny bit
█████.█████████: The unknown person who led the development (the supervision) of Diabloceratops 0.1.2.
█████████: The unknown individual who directed CRISPR/Cas9 genome editing, in vitro, of Citrus sinensis under APOLLO ENGINEERING Research, which was then transformed into plant cells. Potentially the same ‘entity/person’ who conducted the same procedure on Anacardium occidentale.
the first character was updated a tiny bit.
the last 2 were newly added
2nd character is from this
'supervision of' seems to imply a specific character
but
i did add a footnote saying that "X" person could potentially, rather, be another entity entirely.
Like an organisation or machine/program, etc.
and "█████████" seems to be, more or less, a proper person
coming from the bottom right of this^
The same blurb is on the Cashew one
so i put down, as mentioned in the message, that this character/entity is likely the same person who did both procedures
i am contemplating, however, if i should add the characters from ERRANT-291? Especially "BARS"
but i am very 50/50 on it
seeing as it is basically more and more of █████
this is not as bad but still bad lol
lol
was quite interesting
new GUTS tunnel style
this one will connect to the 'random' hangar building near East Lake
What if we got concept art for the giant crabs some day
One day
One day...
THERE IS NO WAY. THERE IS NO WAY ISLANDWALKER IS THAT BIG. @acoustic osprey
What if they stealth dropped giant crabs instead
very cool
That was AE-001
isnt it some AE name for V3?
Supposedly AE-012
ah
cool
no
it was a, technically, unreleased map
how did that guy get access to it
so at some point, it was available
oh wow hi
hes an AE employee surely got some info
it was available on the development branch
but i don't think it was fully released properly
how would one access development branch 🤔 this doesnt sound right
no idea
best to ask Tickz
but i DO remember a map that had hypo rex head
i remember it very well, just burried in my brain
The Development Branch was just the old "test" servers, showcasing things, the AE-001 map was one of them
might've been a server
Luncha already said it
the servers were like The Isle Official Dev 1
couldn't remember if they were on legacy (main) or a separate branch, it has been a while
This is exactly what it was called at the time, and it was Legacy techincally but it was similar to switching to Evrima in a sense
ah yeah, just didn't know what branch it was on
iirc it was just "development branch"
Real
it is terribly painful to find footage of it lol
proper coverage
i swear there were more videos on it out there
honestly might just be YT search engine being the best thing in the world 🥰
Footage of AE-001?
012
Tickz's video showing AE-001 was very nice though
seeing as it is basically just free roam camera showing everything
012 had a pretty short lifetime as I recall, the footage you find of it basically had the same things but redwoods, that cannibal cave coming out the wall, statues etc
if only it came into fruition...
lore-wise, things were actually happening with the islands
thank you 2019 😔
I wish too, ever since the console stream was the time I feel Lore truly had a kickstart, then came the release of batch 12 sometime 2018 and then AE-012 was available
yeah, a time to be alive for sure
things actually feeling like they were rolling
transmissions left right and centre
actual lore things being shown about for and within the game like the v3 more 'lorey' map outline
we're slowly getting back to that point. As nicely and sadly as it is, being that it has been 5 years now.
At least Don seems to be wanting to make THIS with proper foundation
Evrima with foundation, Lore with foundation (like with building the timeline doc)
I do miss transmissions, they were fun. I believe he has all the bad times in store for the community. I think the Usgx film and camera being found was the first in-game thing to happen in a long while as far as I'm concerned
yeah, agreed.
They will be very missed 😔
but yeah! Basically was the first lore thing with community engagement since forever
especially in-game stuff
i do remember there was some twitter stuff though
with reposting
has been a while now.... hard to check seeing his twitter is gone
can't remember where it was done
I recall the Gen 1 Incubation tweet from before but don't believe I saw what you are referring to
just found it
this one
i believe this one needed user interaction
but we never got it
but to be fair, we never got it... so... maybe it never needed retweets
there were also these ones
Although, i never got to experience these
if they were real or not, i have no idea
might have to ask bhaltair
Yeah the Gen 1 needed 1000 retweets, never recieved though as you said
Don't hear much from Bhal nowadays 
The involvement in lore then was still very small as was the community so it didn't surprise me
yeah... the retired islecord mod life...
very mystical
yeah... shame...
it GOT 1000 retweets as well, apparently, before it was shut down
but 1000 too late... 😔
i believe they shut it all down in 2022? I'll have to double check
basically when lore was in the super dark
so i am not surprised, it all started moving at the end of that year
yep
seems like it was deleted just as when ERRANT-291 was released lol
"Offline"
i suppose a homage to it being shut off at the same time
Please let the players be the ones to reactivate the twitter
IMAGINE
that would be sick
especially as a lore hunt
🙏
Sort of a reclamation of Site 12 that would be pog
haha, would be a mad dream
something like that could be akin to what SoT used to do
I did tell Don about that
not sure if i did it justice 
but, still, would be sick to have anything even remotely similar
GUH
i found a bugged spot at the hangar
fell through
I tried to fly to the Volcano, to see if the Hub would load in
but i flew too close to the sun... (i hit an underwater 'ocean' below volcano, despite being above sea level)
i died shortly after lol
i want to go back, as i KNOW replay doesn't load everything
like the underwater base at E19 (give or take) doesn't load properly on replay
but it has a whole foundation when i flew near it as Ptera (under the map via the glitch spot)
i also was able to press the Gen2 button but nothing happened 
Which branch?
HT
Your replay works on HT?
yeah, just can't record
What does that even mean lol
i just use my old recordings for replay
Ahhh
also i could still record on one of the EU servers before the 2nd HT update
Yeah, it seems like the 2nd update did the damage
Might have been done on purpose to hide any rex spotting
potentially
I don't think it stopped it though lol
Replay
not the best photo, but with the bug
you can't see the tunnel in Replay
but you can with Ptera
it is quite interesting and i wonder what triggers the inability to see certain things like that
like i want to say because it is 'too far' from my character
but i have a recording of being at the DTA
and yet, the weathering on it doesn't show
but if i go to the Habour Master, it shows 
despite being further away
from the picture i showed, that'll be GUTS stuff from the looks of it
but this 'human base/ranger station'?
has been there since launch (iirc)
and it is right next to Docks
it is quite fascinating, and mysterious
i don't think you saw our convos
but we used to use Admin Spec. to see future fence placements as well 
crazy to think they use 'below the map' for stuff like this
I didn't see that, yeah
Interesting
I saw you talking about H4 tho

this was a while ago
might've just been on lorecord, so a bit more obsurce discussions
North iirc
yeah... just not in public gateway
We've never technically had H4...
but yeah
H4 is/would be an actual Ranger Station/Human Base, more west than H6 (which is the place with the large rock overhanging)
Oh I am most likely confusing it with H6 then
How did we know of it's existence tho
Lore video mentioning it?
Das a bingo
First and only mentioned in the AUGUSTUS video
Although...
In The dibble video right ?
F5?
Or something like that
no...
only a very obsurce and old reference
😮
literally just this 
Sector H4
Lockdown Protocol Reset
Oh
Strike me as something that happened post incident
Is the pre/post incident timeline that we talk about constantly, even confirmed to exist.
Like, was there some type of incident
Cause we assume that because of the broken down fences, the worn down bases etc
likely no
apparently it might be less so 'one big incident'
and more so a few things happening over "X" amount of time
like we know TOMB was raided/attacked (cannot remember the actual term sorry)
Do we know by what
https://gyazo.com/0617d1e8e075ae1fe7dd7e7359f2aed1
the kinda being 'not the right term to use'
it was 'eradicated' by, likely, some sort of entity
either a rival company, certain peoples or maybe even a forced hand towards AE?
also to give a bit more context to "the incident"
that being, whether or not it was an incident
also had to make sure I wasn't sending the wrong message by saying TOMB was "eradicated"
because i remember we all were basically saying "TOMB = Purged" for quite a while
but yeah, eradicated. Not purged.
Will have to add this to the lore doc, never realised it was never done lol
Interesting stuff
truly is, truly is
tomb raider referenceeeeeee
Guh!
Little question about our friend here ive been pondering
I am likely misremembering but doesnt the repilcator have a way to defend itself? its a god like machine that can bring you back to life so I don't see that being that far fetched, I was wonder did 291 here go to the transmitter to attempt to "leak" apollo secrets which was then intercepted by the replicator or someone/thing linked to it and it was somehow able to induce the cardiac arrest? Im making this sound like a 5g causes illness type scenario lmao
oh wait it says the transmitter was seemingly down at the time nvm
honestly depends on what The Replicator is in Evrima lore
with what you mean with
I am likely misremembering but doesnt the repilcator have a way to defend itself
ah right
but it is quite likely, in my opinion, that ERRANT-291 seemingly wanted to go to OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER
but, as we see, marked it down as offline
of course, it might just be an observation
however, it would make sense and meaning by making it so he writes it down because it is offline due to needing to use it
shortly being found wandering near/at it
being marked down as wandering near D Section Interior
Do you think its more likely that he wasnt even supposed to be near it then?
wandering near D section makes it sound like 291 wasn't meant to be there or was away from their post
i believe he had some sort of purpose in going to "D Section" (i.e. Olympus Transmitter)
Seeing as he marked it down as offline
but 'wandering' is a very interesting phrase to use
maybe AE never realised what ERRANT-291 was doing properly?
him marking at as offline makes it sound like he was checking in on it like maintenance
but yeah "wandering" makes it sound like he was away from post, unless AE changed a few words to cover something up?
seeing as he was wandering near or at
I do believe maybe the timeline of events goes like this
ERRANT-291 finished SHIFT
ERRANT-291 quickly does to OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER, but finds it is offline
ERRANT-291 cannot (potentially) complete his goal so he wanders away from OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER - hence wandering near D Section (D Section = OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER)
ERRANT-291 is then detained
all happens in, give or take, 7 minutes
potentially, ye
agreed
also the seven minute part is not written there
in the doc
apologises
cardiac arrest could either be a cover for "we shot bro" but to me if they didnt cover anything up it feels like an outside force caused it
it is a hidden phrase you can find if you bump up the brightness on the original doc
lol
Walking away from an apollo POI then has sudden health problem? doesnt add up to me
well well well
they have a autopsy report
if they did kill him
maybe they did an autopsy report on another body? and filed it as ERRANT-291
seems a bit complicated, but we can't really tell
but i would say occam's razor would say probably not
lol
I always liked the idea that 291 was controlled by something not human
maybe they have caused him a cardiac arrest on purposse
wakes up from 'drone-mode' and dies
BOO 👻
dies
tasers
lol
is it possible 291 wasn't really human, but a potential gen 2?
We are getting AE's perspective but they seem nearly as baffled by the situation as us
yeah, definitely a possibility
*hence a biotrace (?) *
I like the idea that most AE employees would have a fancy gen 2 body by this point
This feels more like "we found this gen 2 body walking around but don't know who is in it"
its the whole cardiac arrest after getting near something important thats got my interest
I do think its either a cover story for the individuals fate OR it was unnaturally caused
oh yeah, it def feels like a spy story where someone takes a lethal pill so that they won't divulge secrets
but instead the random cardiac arrest feels like it might have been triggered by some external (or internal?) entity via remote
exactly
I forgot, is Tartarus or is TOMB the storage thingy
or am I just imagining things
Storage as in digital/data storage? Or physical?
See above
Tomb presumably being EIP storage, tartarus potentially being storage for other things
Only asking, wanted to rename the archive to Tartarcord or Tombcord
Tombcord would be better imo
...but tartarcord, it would be oh so great.
Let's vote on that
tartar sauce
Jk, you decide
mmmmm fish...
ew
awww now I want fried fish
lol
but it was, and there's a mini redwood biome underneath it there
AE-001
The most beautiful place on AE-001
There were already giant fences, but they were never used in the legacy.
AE-001 did not make any sense for me imo, seemed like it was something from a fantasy. The early stages at least.
this feels very silly tbh
as cerato said, fantastical
yeah, I doubt gen1 are carving that
Yeah that’s what I told them, I thought they were asking what the AE name for V3 was and it was supposedly AE-012. Same layout and all
Lol 2 calling hyper rex statue
Friendship 🤝
no
AE-001 wasn't the basis for V3
AE-012 uses a few assets from 001, but not the same island / seperate maps
One dock is not enough sorry, it is time for more docks around Gateway
east dock here, east dock there, east dock everywhere
no.. west.. south..north 😔
Swamp? Destroy, become marina and dockyard
If an airfield were to be on seahorse island having another place for boats south would be good logistically, rather than go all the way to port and have to travel by land to Hexdome
what is seahorse island
i only know of Britain
Docktah
The scraggly one in the south east, decided by Vulnona map https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1307549126786940958/image.png?ex=684a4a84&is=6848f904&hm=fe11e41ca3c8583f7f163c5de85701f8976aa57c70c7fabb47ca20867cbc6fad&
But Vulnona doesn’t call Britain Britain, so what does it know
all i see is Britain, sorry
there is only one...
sorry
someone noticed how Don was using Obsidian still for the lore doc on stream
I do wonder if he uses obsidian to its 'fullest'
and if so
i wonder how his notes are going... haha
SPORE space stage galaxy:
lol
dude.. i remember it like a dream.. the redoowds and the skeleton
but never rememebered how big it was. wow
i want to cry 😔
obsidian?...
and its like, neuro cell type thing based or smth?
that image above looks wierd lol
the 'cells' are called notes
basically you can make related notes
that contains similar ideas and connect it for ease of navigation
the perfect thing to write some story/lore
exactly
yeah that must look as big as that image for the isle lolol
man, dondi might have done some bad decisions for the game gameplay wise or balance wise or blablabla
but his lore is top noch..
fr. love the isle lore its unknow
the mysteriousness of it is what makes it cool
and dondi knows that, i hope he doesnt give up on it one day
fr feel like its is a little bit forgotten right now but i love it its so jurrasic park like LOVE IT. and all the strains and matriach and the skeleton on AE-1 is Matriach its SO COOL
its awesome, and i do agree, THIS IS A DREAM COME TRUE!
i loved JP so much, and having the game i dreamed of (playing as a dino) WITH the best dino franchise in its style AND lore... THIS IS HEAVEN
fr when i was little my DREAM was to find a dino survival game where u can be a dino and in 2016. i got that opportunity. and i used it. the good old days with lore and the unknow mysteries that scared the living soul out of me in the night ingame and the calls i was scared to play at night because of that. I WANNA GO BACK
😔
words canno describe...
fr
but u can in steam db go back
it would be funny to make a comunity server on progression or something
you can bring back the places
who would bring back the people 😔
fr
and the feelings
its the problem
but actually? theres some project i know of that is doing that...
but u couldt make a isle post about it
which?
its a bit complicated, would you like me to DM you about it?
Sure but there is no one on i bet
and stil it would be fun bring like a 100 players and play the OLD ISLE
man it'd be awesome 😔
fr but now we gonna live the current it will be better i am sure
you made me bring this up on stream
after i finish editing, I shall write my 5000th wall about this to you
wait what
i cant even load GIFs idk what Don said up there
just bowing
also what stream, u streamed today?
yes
the mysteriousnes of isle lore?
looking forward to that
at least its better than discords annoying VoiceMessages 😔
wish it was more clear
yes
no but really, why dont u do it
Hey folks, we have a quick Isle Lore update relating to... Water Tanks in The Isle. Yeah...
In this The Isle Lore video, we will discuss the most recent model changes to the "AE Class Water Tanks" on the current Evrima Hordetesting Servers.
The model has probably been revamped for the first time since Update 4. Maybe a bit later, give or take....
Water Tank Analysis lol
The old v3 had it, with redwoods all around.
Dondi, can you answer me something?
Was the AE-001 map from 2018 supposed to be a map or was it a test map? If it was going to be a map, was it supposed to be one part human and one part nature? Because I see that one side of the island had a lot of human constructions, while the other side had more GIANT CONSTRUCTIONS and a Hypo head, which I think was more for the MEME.
the approximate location of the Isle based on Star Maps captured in game
LMAOW?!?!?!
it aint accurate at all using EVERYTHING ELSE from the stars
star HDRI is not specific and is just some marketplace assets
something YOU should look for mate is sun attitude
thats something they can change in-game to tell something
or weather, heat, plants, stuff like that
which all mostly been checked
wrong channel and probably a visual bug
very lore related bro
Definitely lore related but the skybox is extremely likely to not be custom.
It was supposed to be a proper map
Who is this man
me I think
I think it was a deleted message
oh
yay
interesting, what references did you use for Gateway's stars?
Have you checked if they are the same stars on HT?
if you checked on main branch
but this is the thing^
the skybox and the stars themself have changed over the course of many years in Isle
so, definitely not 'super' reliable
albeit, quite neat
yup
in terms of that recent live stream
i didn't want to
because it was just going to be used as footage for the Water Tank video
but, i don't like pinging the people for live streams in lorecord because it isn't my server. If that makes sense.
just cause my streams aren't that amazing anyways
no point forcing a ping for it
I want to get my AUGUSTUS video done in a month or two as well!!
i.e. a proper... actually lore analysis...
BUT at the same time. I want to try and spurt out smaller videos just so peoples who aren't in lore theories chronically dont have to be constantly engaged here to learn some niche lore stuff
something to think on, especially with me and Hacker's lore convo we had on my stream yesterday
thanks but I think I was on JWE during that convo...
wow... 😔
What if YOU get on JWE right NOW
why can't you engage in every sappy lore conversation i have on stream, huh!!!!!!
I get lost quickly..
it is ok
this is why i never promote my streams... because i don't think i make sense half most the time
Just put subway surfers footage in the corner
It'll work I think
ah true
Is that tar tar sauce
it might just be...
i am having a hard time to respond to this now lol
trying to think back on how i should word this
I think there are two sides of the coin (in terms of 'mystery' in The Isle Lore, and lore in general for the direction of game lore)
This is all under the presumption that "X" Game/Stories' Lore is engaging and a creative idea that would and could bring people in
You have 1
the mysterious quantity
- There is a lacklustre amount of given lore/story/'pieces to the puzzle'
Clearly the lore IS a very creative piece, so you are still engaged.
Where the mysterious aspect is not via the game lore itself (or not the main part of it), but because there isn't much to go off from.
Therefore, mystery is made via this 'minimal' amount of 'content'.
-> Making the 'puzzle' (the questions of/from/in lore, etc) unsolved; of course, the puzzle doesn't need to be completely unsolved (that would be far too demanding), but it is still very empty.
Then you have 2
Which is the mysterious quality
- The content itself idealises within/uses a mysterious theme
Where the game's idea of Lore is one that harnesses mysterious as a core component
This does not have to mean that it is the only component. Just that such a style is used a lot in the 'lore'
the point where we're at, with Evrima lore, is definitely a crossroad between the two
we lack 'a lot' of hard lore
i.e. we don't have a lot of physical pieces of lore, like ERRANT-291, AUGUSTUS, the file recovery video
More in game stuff por favor 
therefore there is the mysterious quantity (1)
but at the same time, a lot of these pieces are also quite mysterious within themselves
which is the second, mysterious quality (2)
Do you think that, though TS1, both combined greatly boosts this idea of mystery?
*potentially? *
I do think the limited amount that we’ve gotten currently does increase the suspense and increases curiosity
Albeit, i do believe that having more of the second 'mysterious quality' (2)
is far better than making lore documents that are there to explain everything
most certainly
of course... maybe we should get some stuff that isn't as mysterious
desensitization is real
if we did get A LOT of physical lore (in discord and/or in-game) and all of it is as mysterious as ERRANT-291
would we enjoy it all? Would it slowly get more annoying, having more questions pilled up on-top of each other
Knowing us, the entirety of lorecord would turn into gandalf surrounding himself with ancient texts looking for connections
thinking about this, doesn't surprise me that Don hasn't been pumping out lore things constantly
of course, i believe a main reason for that might be because he is the game director... per chance...

I wanna be flashbanged with enough that it’s like “alright, this is gonna take awhile”
i still wanna play caution, of course.
More than enough of similar things can be hurtful
It won't affect me, mostly. Because I am 'addicted' to it all
but in respects to/in the context of the 'common person'?
i might be overthinking it a bit too much though, of course
i suppose i am a little bit worried that Don will always take the more mysterious route for everything
but, who cares! So long as it is good and Dondi is happy with it.
File cabinet deep within GUTS that missed the cleansing of information when AE left
tbf its possible that we have everything we can really have right now
anymore could have us figuring out alot more than don intends for us to know right now
((give us the name of the founder of AE dondi,,, please,,,))
(Ignore me I’m an addict)
it would suck but honestly i wouldnt be entirely surprised
i don't know how that could be the case, to be fair
At least in terms of 'what we have' is still more than a year+ old
and we know Don has basically 'written' the lore (in Evrima) twice now
this second time, though, I'm not sure how much he has done. Besides 60+ page.
ive never gotten deep into the lore much but is the lore hidden ingame somehow? like on signs and papers and labels
like, is that the source of most things here
🤏
most things is from either in-lore documents and videos
that aren't in-game
like AUGUSTUS, the Dibble TCAM video and ERRANT-291
a tiny bit is from in-game itself, from actual official models or worldbuilding