isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner-2049-blade-runner-blade-runner-roblox-roblox-ryan-gosling-gif-5275520496567399289

[acoustic osprey]

this is how i imagine Replicator and Gen1 communication to be like

[lethal moat]

I imagine something slightly different

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpsycho-cyberpsycho-maine-maine-cyberpunk-cuberpunk-maine-gif-10229104336035589371

Closer to this

[acoustic osprey]

@hallow ruin

[rare wadi]

the island is based in the northern hemisphere?

only questioning this because the sun seems to set in the south-west

only noting that because i keep ending up somehow walking DIRECTLY INTO ITS DEATH BEAM

[pseudo lantern]

not direct indication of being in the northern hemisphere i fear

[hallow ruin]

i did read it all but i have no idea what to say rn or whats the subject specifically

[pseudo lantern]

could still be summer in the southern hemisphere..

[fast forge]

I hadn't heard this one

[mint igloo]

so they're tryna make jurassic park with that power? I don't follow

[fast forge]

Perhaps this person was disabled in some way from birth, but helped create Gen 2 to get another shot

[fast forge]

I think it's about creating the 'perfect' human form
(also I was replying to something from 2023 just FYI )

[mint igloo]

I just popped into this chat cuz I was bored please carry on lmao

[fast forge]

This is pretty much the concept

[lethal moat]

Why the sudden interest in something said a year and a half ago?

My immediate assumption was something more ambitious, maybe their country suffered because their natural resources were squandered, so they remake nature that they missed? Idk

[fast forge]

I was reading through old stuff for another reason, and came upon that bit. Just something I didn't know

[quasi birch]

hey yall this is a random thought I don't really message here but I always wondered why megalania (and maybe titanoboa) is the only confirmed non-mesozoic playable that will be added to the game, and I feel like there's going to be a lore-explanation for that. do you guys have any theories?

[lethal moat]

Deinosuchus

And the explanation is that none of them are actual dinosaurs, they’re genetic abominations made to look and act like dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

do we need to say abominations though...

[lethal moat]

Abomination is a matter of perspective, I also find newborn children abominable, I am not the standard of judgement

[acoustic osprey]

then why are we allowed to give subjective matter on the topic then!!!

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-really-eric-foreman-foreman-gif-15798566522776115933

[lethal moat]

I’m allowed to have my opinions COUNT

[acoustic osprey]

touche

[quasi birch]

im sorry what? deino isn't mesozoic? am i stupid

[quasi birch]

late cretaceous does that not count as mesozoic?

oops didn't mean to reply with that

[pseudo lantern]

deinosuchus is mesozoic

[quasi birch]

and i guess what i was trying to ask was like because of how out of place meg is compared to the rest of the roster time-period wise does anyone think there'll be an in-lore explanation for its inclusion in the animals they brought back and what theories we might have on it

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
it may just be for money
and adventuring out a bit
because we know they don't just create animals, nor Dinos

I don't think there is any real reason to 'just' pure dinosaurs (as pure as you can get, because whether they are truly dinosaurs are up for philosophical debate)

however, the most important thing, for me that is, is waiting till we get proper proof on why Dinosaurs and how they're being used by Apollo Engineering overall

if that makes sense

[pseudo lantern]

and I suppose we do already have some non-mesozoics.. due to some AE creations just
never being alive

until now..

[acoustic osprey]

Gen1s, Gen2s, tons of (although non-playable) mammalian creatures, strains...

would you count strains as seperate entities though?

i suppose it is like 'biological race'
where is the line between you being in "X" race or "Y" race/ethnicity?

but we seem to try and live in a binary/controlled world
when, in fact, these things are quite spiritic and as if on a very blurry spectrum

[lethal moat]

Dire wolves

[acoustic osprey]

exactly...

[quasi birch]

a good point i totally forgot abt the gen1s and stuff

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!
My only wish is to know more

which all comes in time...

but, hopefully we can better answer your question in the future

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[hexed forge]

Hordetesting has gone quiet 😔

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[pseudo lantern]

hypsi climbing will bring the isle back from the brink of extinction (definitely a dying game)

[acoustic osprey]

the model has changed from current Evrima branch
From the HT

[hallow ruin]

interesting..

[torpid roost]

https://tenor.com/view/solo-leveling-solo-leveling-arise-igris-arise-gif-2958224079079570379

summon dondi!

[rich swift]

Chicken sandwich

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/popeyes-chicken-sandwich-fast-food-popeyes-chicken-popeyes-louisiana-kitchen-gif-27587228

[acoustic osprey]

opinions?

i do agree
then, however, it would look a bit weird having 'marketplace asset' all over models in-game

where the point of these marketplace assets are intended to take the roles of lesser models to free VisualTech, allowing him to work on more important things like GUTS. Etc.

i mean

how important are marketplace asset headphones?
nothing

but having little notes/papers everywhere, or machinery with text on it, that seem to be lore
but end up being random marketplace asset jargon and the whatnot is certainly a bit disappointing

but hopefully, once the 'bigger things' run out and are put into the game
they can work on the 'quality assurance' of any model that needs to be properly lored

that being, i presume ||as i remember Don talking about this||, they can just adjust the models to make them more 'proper'

like this thingo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1361904071732101152/R240164952A.png?ex=680f9cc1&is=680e4b41&hm=d49c356a62be68efd4a7229c41288eafb8a7db240e8b9de31565f61ff0f744e1&

which is just a VERY old car engine schematic

that almost certain predates Apollo Engineering

[hexed forge]

Disagree

Looks weird to have a watermark on a 2D texture while exploring an open world

[acoustic osprey]

exactly what i said

like, it would be convenient for us

stuff like this should be 'fun over balance'
and in this context 'looking nice over being worldbuildingly convenient'

[hexed forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

like the only way to appease that convience would be getting a hard surface modeller to do those very 'small' models

would it be worth the while now? Or just worry once everything big has come and VisualTech has some downtime?

[hexed forge]

I do think they need someone that can work on the small details of the world

[acoustic osprey]

that is the hope

i think it is a it of a petty job
but still doable

probably something they aren't concerned about though

because it only concerns the 10-20 of us on a weekly basis ... and a person or two every month or so who stumbles upon it and thinks it is hard lore

[acoustic osprey]

also i was going to answer but the weekends was a bliss for me

but the answer is... painful

you can read the above stuff talking about marketplace assets
which is a similar story to what you're asking

[rare wadi]

that's really convenient timing...

[acoustic osprey]

basically
the skybox isn't custom made by the team, which means we don't really know how important the actual 'hemisphere' situation is to Dondi nor the team

We have tons of southern hemisphere, especially rare species, plants (like from Argentina)
The environment matches tropical areas more seen near and around the equator

however, i am not sure on the actual night stars

[rare wadi]

i have 600hrs in jurassic world evolution 2.
i'll do it

[acoustic osprey]

being southern hemisphere myself, i have not noticed the southern cross
but saying that, Isle's night is a bit weird and has changed a lot

[hexed forge]

woah perfect!

[rare wadi]

okay so nothing in game is definitive to where we are

[acoustic osprey]

especially things that aren't custom made, 100%

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-funnt-cat-black-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-16409614852005252877

[rare wadi]

considering how jungled the biome is, were somewhere near the equator?

[acoustic osprey]

like we know some marketplace models were/have been 'updated'
but then again, some things just don't truly fit (some marketplace assets, that is)

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
roughly

some bets are on south east asia
but, then again, Gateway is still a bit weird

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190479571762548807/1262430070002421882/20240714_140132.jpg?ex=680f9e1f&is=680e4c9f&hm=5fc6e28557c937175c3664e3e6ffb7b6f93cdf2503ff343cdfaaf9199c893d5e&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190479571762548807/1262430070442819624/20240713_103332.jpg?ex=680f9e1f&is=680e4c9f&hm=6dabd83f9a4aca202e85da4ce763e4fe0890ee59f6062d7a1950579df720fcb9&

bring me back to Thailand!!

[rare wadi]

ngl i originally thought the island was a part of south east asia as well. But theres so much yet to come enviromental stuff that its basicly impossible to tell if its in the pacific or atlantic

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

at least we know AE had work done on botany pre-Dinosaurs
They seem to be messing with environments and ecosystems a lot

which is likely why it is hard to truly pinpoint Gateway, and likely soon, other islands

[ornate comet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/728266516608450613/1092924836348698815/01085C38-3386-45A2-A30E-0673D571745F.gif

[rare wadi]

unironically i made a joke that the island is near australia but the north east area's of australia are just jungle.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah we have a lot of jungles on our eastern coast

[frosty jay]

and just like australia, everything there is a hazard to human health

[acoustic osprey]

like out in the blue mountains region, there are certainly rainforests

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/no-biggie-steve-a-minecraft-movie-don't-worry-about-it-jack-black-gif-375398176403622926

[frosty jay]

AE wants to turn the whole world into Australia

Give an arachnid lungs so it can get to massive prehistoric proportions and the transformation will be complete

[acoustic osprey]

the only person to survive is me and xenon
woooohoo

[frosty jay]

congrats on your survival

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[frosty jay]

is it like Fallout or more like Metro Exodus out there

[gaunt dawn]

Devblog in 3 days

[acoustic osprey]

but will there be lore...

[acoustic osprey]

exactly like Madmax, specifically the first movie
no nuclear fallout yet

[frosty jay]

Ah, I see

[pseudo lantern]

YAY

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/what-a-lovely-day-nux-mad-max-fury-road-this-is-a-beautiful-day-nicholas-hoult-gif-11703306344117134384

[pseudo lantern]

i maintain that if I had to pinpoint gateway, it would be an island off the coast of brisbane

[acoustic osprey]

no
original madmax!!

[pseudo lantern]

strictly due to a combination of climate and birds in the ambience (i actually noticed a 4th one i recognised the other day, yay!)

[frosty jay]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-the-nightrider-baby-nightrider-sassy-happy-driving-gif-17713162

[frosty jay]

the very first one I see

[acoustic osprey]

because no nuclear fallout

if and when that happens
then we get the new one

[frosty jay]

then Australia Phase Two

[acoustic osprey]

https://imgur.com/a/jM9lh3x

[rare wadi]

is there a bird noise thats only found when raptors 1 call-

[pseudo lantern]

what..

[rare wadi]

i've never heard it anywhere else its like the birds are like:
HE FOUND US FLY!

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380

[rare wadi]

it only happens when i 1 call as a raptor

[pseudo lantern]

they do that with every 1 call

[rare wadi]

i've never heard it as anything else

[acoustic osprey]

it was more prominent in early Evrima

[pseudo lantern]

i hear it all the time
i have never played raptor

[acoustic osprey]

i barely do...

[rare wadi]

i've played everything else and i barely play raptor but i was in north plains around the fences and it was playing every time i 1 called

[pseudo lantern]

isaac
you do not play the isle

[acoustic osprey]

i play Crusader Kings 3 the most
and CS
and used to play SoT a lot

[pseudo lantern]

how did you find my steam account

[acoustic osprey]

but i play Galli a lot

you can search me on google

[pseudo lantern]

i can..

[acoustic osprey]

specifically lightclaw

i think my steam comes up 2nd

yep

[frosty jay]

and a youtube channel

[acoustic osprey]

who is that tuber!

[frosty jay]

hmm maybe someone who wants a follower

[pseudo lantern]

mine doesn't show up.....

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/grey-cat-cry-gif-2840808548593801720

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/dollar-prank-bill-dollar-prank-gif-14222630

[acoustic osprey]

if lightclaw was a living (hu)man
he would be that man

[pseudo lantern]

oh

[pseudo lantern]

what is the significance of the rectangular prisms

[acoustic osprey]

water

honestly no clue

[frosty jay]

Recyclable class water

[acoustic osprey]

i wanna know what this means

you can see a K at the end

oh wait
Tank

Used to be AE Class Water

i cannot believe it was updated THIS HT

that is, unless, Ts1 is lying to me

because i am not bothered to check on Evrima right now
as i have downloaded HT

but maybe i'll check tonight...

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-really-eric-foreman-foreman-gif-15798566522776115933

Your Gif is now MY property

[acoustic osprey]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

The said the current model on Evrima is the one with the 'new ae logo' and says Ae Class Water

Where on HT
It has no logo
And says Class Water

[hexed forge]

Where is the location of the one with the AE logo?

[acoustic osprey]

All over the sites

Like water access
D10
Etc

[hexed forge]

hmm,

I'll check it out

[acoustic osprey]

Please check Evrima

That is the branch i have not checked

[hexed forge]

You have read my mind

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[hexed forge]

AE Logo on the side, label on the front

White one, same thing

[hexed forge]

Do I check the hordetest version now?

[acoustic osprey]

You can if you want

[hexed forge]

yahoo

[acoustic osprey]

Seems like we may be correct then

[acoustic osprey]

I have already checked water access and d10 if that helps cut time

[hexed forge]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

Dyno....

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[hexed forge]

Still has it

You can still see the AE logo

Just a bit more worn out I guess.

Ah no

It is the new modern AE Logo

However no AE logo on the sides.

So yes it changed

[prisma crown]

lore

[knotty locust]

isle lore theories users checking every millimetre of a chemical drum because it went from 48000 polygons to 48001

[hexed forge]

Indeed

[muted reef]

Just to find out it it's meaningless

[pseudo lantern]

YAY

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dilated-pupils-gif-20808325

[acoustic osprey]

But changed

[acoustic osprey]

Yay I was correct

[hexed forge]

Yup

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

Now I wonder the AE text was changed

On the label

But it has changed
Woohoo

What a weird catch

To happen this HT

[acoustic osprey]

Is that on the white ones though? I tried looking through my photos but it was really hard to tell

[acoustic osprey]

And in the original
It is just text

[lethal moat]

Project hypnos: Really really powerful tranquilizers

[acoustic osprey]

and bug fixing

sorry
bug finding

[hallow ruin]

hi

[hexed forge]

Yes.

[acoustic osprey]

can you send image...

[hexed forge]

.

And the one under it..

[acoustic osprey]

yay

hard to tell with the lighting

[fast forge]

stinky

[bleak shoal]

okay so i’m pretty new to the isle. i’m trying to learn as much as I can including the lore. what is like the most widely accepted theories and lore.

[indigo parcel]

So at first the isle legacy lore is not continued

[bleak shoal]

are legacy and envirma connected at all through lore?

[snow jasper]

No, both are different in their own story sense, but many themes and ideas carry over like EIPs, Strains, etc

[bleak shoal]

I see.

I know nothing about the lore i’m going to see if I can find a youtube video or something to watch so I can have a full understanding

[plush widget]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[bleak shoal]

wow dude thank you so much

[lethal moat]

I’m curious if they treat damaged assets, or if it’s a “eh, we’ll make another” situation

[fast forge]

https://youtu.be/hrIu_rZOiJk?si=HwGl2QqD8fkkMXlL

[fast forge]

Mostly it's a cost analysis

If it's an animal that breeds profusely like rodents, there won't be much effort to save an individual. If it's a big costly animal like an elephant, it's usually more cost-efficient to attempt treatment.

Being mostly big dinosaurs, I'd bet on the elephant strategy. Idk maybe the Replicator keeps costs down

[lethal moat]

I also think the timeline matters, if you have an ecosystem in place, it’ll be easier than 3 dinosaurs in laboratory conditions

[iron anchor]

@lethal moat

[pseudo lantern]

BUH BUH BUH BUH BINGO

[ornate comet]

I wonder what camaras growth rate will be in the lore

Because like, idk how long AE has been operating but I’d imagine it wasn’t long enough for a real camara to become full grown lol

Goes for all the species

There’s a lemming that reaches sexual maturity at around 40 days, and I can see hypsi doing that

[fast forge]

eh a lot of large mammals reach reproductive maturity before a decade in age

[acoustic osprey]

i thought you said camera for a second...

[ornate comet]

May be different for reptiles. And also the genetic abominations we play as in the game lol

[lethal moat]

https://youtu.be/Ts93Zj85A-Y I just think it's neat

[acoustic osprey]

new one?

oh, no

[lethal moat]

No, it's old

Just listening to some music and was reminded of it

But we seem to assign a corrupting influence to neuros, a barbaric one to hypers, what do we think about tissos?

[fast forge]

I believe reptiles typically reach maturity even faster

[acoustic osprey]

(and we're yet to know how fast/slow AE have made these creatures, in terms of their aging)

[hexed forge]

Stealthy and Quick rats

[acoustic osprey]

legacy? stealth

[ornate comet]

The humble rodent:

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/middle-ages-gif-9768450455914291331

[acoustic osprey]

save Dean.!!!!

[lethal moat]

I'm really curious about neuro intelligence, because there's a really fine line between necessary evils and malice

[acoustic osprey]

that is, if neuros have advanced intelligence or just more intelligence than animals

of course
Neurotenic Mastermind

but is that title fit for her any more?

[ornate comet]

Neuro spino purposely causes seizure inducing flashes on any player it sees

[hexed forge]

I'm guessing they are extremely intelligent on the "animal" level. But not at the same level as humans.

[hexed forge]

Latter imo

[acoustic osprey]

when i asked what her 'thing' would be, instead of her being a 'mastermind' or synonymous,
all that was said was "Carrier" (well the gif)

[lethal moat]

What do neuros even do anymore

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-you-lose-good-day-gif-4873442

[acoustic osprey]

all we can say is that they seemingly still, at least Echidna, are connected to the electromagnetic spectrum
to some degree

[hexed forge]

Carrier,

Could be tied to how the zombie halloween event is actually tied to Neuros rather than tissos

[ornate comet]

Camp south plains

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

Maybe it can pass down the strain.
Acting as a parasite, making the creature serve under her?

"Mother of all _____" What was it

[acoustic osprey]

cannibals

[hexed forge]

yes

that

[lethal moat]

I love the idea of neuros as a hive mind, but we've heard the least about neuros with the exception of the zombie thing, which makes me think it's a contagion

[hexed forge]

Echidna carrying the strain in a form of it being able to "infect" other creatures. A parasite.
Hence the term CARRIER, it being able to carry on and pass the strain onto other creatures.

[lethal moat]

Vampire and vampire thralls is the comparison I like to make

"Pure" neuros vs those slaved to the pure one via that connection, likely way off, but that's what makes my brain happy

[acoustic osprey]

and Echidna siren stuff

[lethal moat]

Also gives the opportunity for you to tell who the thralls are, and have a "neuro" interaction without running into the big one

[hexed forge]

"Mother of all cannibals"
What if the form of a "cannibal" is a goal, its the successor, its the better version of the casual gen1. She is the one who creates these successors. Strength and intelligence in return for loyalty to the echidna.
That or the strain literally just forces you to work for her through a hivemind lol

[lethal moat]

That being communication with those infected, or, as a humanoid, enhancing an existing ability to communicate with other humanoids

[acoustic osprey]

no

[acoustic osprey]

^

she is able to produce perfectly replicated human voices and transmit them as short range plees of help (as if a siren, but radio-ed/transmitted)

[hexed forge]

yay

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-croods-hes-loose-shocked-gif-14735637

[hexed forge]

Gen1s/Gen1.5s (Cannibals)
I assume

[acoustic osprey]

or .... you !!

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-dragon-warrior-its-me-kung-fu-panda-4-point-gif-12787045352870160956

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[ornate comet]

What’s this?

First I’m seeing it

[hexed forge]

Errant 291

[ornate comet]

Ohhh

Guess I’ve never read the text lol

[hexed forge]

WOW

[acoustic osprey]

fair

[hexed forge]

wow...

[ornate comet]

Idk I didn’t read the text before lol

It just never occurred to me that there’s text there

[hexed forge]

It's okay

[lethal moat]

My idea behind neuro thralls summarized by pacman

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-scarab-assyst-gif-9837798423909404507

[hexed forge]

So basically through a bite?

[lethal moat]

Maybe it can vary, the idea is more behind infection

Looking at you spores

[hexed forge]

Yes indeed,
So through biting. Or through neuro goo...

[lethal moat]

That's the idea I was leaning towards, yeah

[hexed forge]

I wouldn't be surprised if there's already a new concept art for this.. we just never seen it. 😔

[lethal moat]

I also wouldn't want to be surprised

[ornate comet]

This is a crazy wild out there idea that I’m just making up for fun. What if you physically transform into a neuro after one looks at you or eye contact. Triggers an immediate genetic rewriting sequence. Idk I’m at work and bored so here’s my random take

lol

[lethal moat]

Synaptic linkage

[acoustic osprey]

if anything
Echidna should be the 'easiest' to infect others with

[acoustic osprey]

either or
honestly

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as Reaper exists (properly) now
yeah

[ornate comet]

Brain turned to goop then reformed because it looked at you funny

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[hexed forge]

Wouldn't want it to be just "Hey, I look at you, you shall be fully infected now"

Maybe if the Echidna is like right up in your face.

[lethal moat]

And now it makes you jump off a cliff for it's own amusement

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[ornate comet]

People would 100% do that

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
that would be OP
not exactly 'easiest'

because that is far more than easy

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

unless

https://tenor.com/view/fall-the-lich-lich-king-adventure-time-litch-gif-3630070497349253076

[ornate comet]

You think there would be a hyper Deino

[acoustic osprey]

make Echidna a medusa !

[ornate comet]

Idk if it could even sustain itself since it’s a ambush predator

[acoustic osprey]

that could work

doesn't need to be able to sustain itself tbf
it is destined to die

[ornate comet]

Gotta make sure it’s gameplay isn’t less then 30 mins if you are water locked still

[hexed forge]

I do think that there are size limits/requirements to certain strains.
Like I don't think a Hypsi would be able to handle a Hyper Strain in it's body.

[ornate comet]

you take that back

[hexed forge]

Or even a herrera or austro for that matter,
Too skinny.

[lethal moat]

I like the idea behind having a little bit of leash within neuro hiveminds, it can "possess" you when it likes, but if you listen well, it might choose not to, and that gives you time to warn others out of earshot

[ornate comet]

I can see a neuro Herrera

[hexed forge]

I DO think it might be able to handle a Tisso strain.

[hexed forge]

Oh definitely.
Even Tisso perhaps

[ornate comet]

Isn’t tisso like speed

[hexed forge]

Stealth, speed, yeah
Perhaps a venom.

[ornate comet]

Tisso is the least talked about besides the reaper

[acoustic osprey]

well, maybe (for all)

all we know is just super regen (regen of limbs)

[lethal moat]

Imagine a neuro teaming up with other strains

[hexed forge]

I also think it is fair to say they can climb somewhat,
Basing it off from the reaper.

[hexed forge]

Imagination running wild there Rumple

[lethal moat]

If the reaper is founded off gen 1, then it was likely good at climbing beforehand

[acoustic osprey]

well, that might be because of Gen1

we don't really know as of yet

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-infinity-war-captain-america-running-hulk-gif-10389529

[hexed forge]

true..

[lethal moat]

A pair of tisso dilos working for a neuro spino under threat of death sounds cool

[hexed forge]

Good hearing tho !!

Also I wouldn't be opposed to Hypers having bad hearing

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[ornate comet]

Neuro Deino. “Suggests” its prey to go to the waters edge with mind control, hallucinations, and fake chat messages

[hexed forge]

Could be a Gen1 attribute aswell... yeah..

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-punching-kicking-beating-up-gif-23663820

Tissos and Neuros teaming up against a hyper

Woah

Jurassic World Plot right there, someone right it DOWN

[lethal moat]

Lmao

Or, a benevolent neuro, that barters instead of threatening

[ornate comet]

If neuro quetz exists I’d want it to sound really gross and wet as it flies lol

[ornate comet]

Honestly I’d just scare people constantly

[ornate comet]

A picture worth 1000 words

[acoustic osprey]

if only those were official... 😔
could be though, to some extent

[lethal moat]

"Yo, watch out, there's a rex in that treeline, come over here and we can meet up" neuro giga jumpscare

[ornate comet]

Reminds me of when I was playing cera the other day. Walked by north jungle sanc and a juivie said “any ceras” I said perhaps and kept directing him on where to go. You can prob guess what happened after

[lethal moat]

[ornate comet]

Oh also talking to different species reminds me of an oviraptor idea I had if it had mimicry

Could have oviraptor select a species and press a button to make a fake juvie f call of that species that puts one of like 50 different fake chat messages for the parents to see

Oviraptor doesn’t know what message popped up, it’s just fishing

For distractions

“Need food please” “Herrera” “hi” simple stuff like that. To get the parents attention or to lower or raise guard.

This isn’t lore so I’ll end it there

[fading pivot]

When devblog ?.

[lethal moat]

Last working day of the month, same as always

[acoustic osprey]

wed for USA, thurs for Aus/Asia
unsure on Europe

[hexed forge]

Wednesday midnight/Thursday morning for Europe

[acoustic osprey]

that is a whole 24 hours....

[bright shoal]

i think he means like wednesday night at midnight/thursday morning

[acoustic osprey]

i know, but Cerato is incorrect with how he said it

https://tenor.com/view/pong-krell-clone-wars-rex-execution-gif-26976465

[bright shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/han-solo-captain-salute-aye-aye-captain-gif-15591554

[hexed forge]

Whatttttttt

I said everything correctly....

[acoustic osprey]

wow

[bright shoal]

Lmao

[gaunt dawn]

So this is isle lore theories

Never been in here before

[acoustic osprey]

sometimes

you were here yesterday

[gaunt dawn]

No i wasnt

Wait

I was

Im confused

[hexed forge]

You were always here.

[gaunt dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/uhh-cat-meow-meowmeow-confused-gif-8057852975940592422

Im leaving

[hexed forge]

NOO

[fathom valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1110291763941355691/1340250194352017408/SPOILER_togif-1-2.gif

[pure horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-jeremy-renner-clint-barton-hawkeye-gif-17148870

[regal horizon]

One more day for dev blog

[icy onyx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1086535274877694002/1304923874890350693/ezgif-7-a648ec257f.gif

[spark egret]

can someone explain me the lore in one sentence?

[mint igloo]

dinosaurs

[spark egret]

@acoustic osprey thoughts?

[lethal moat]

We inherited miracles and were entrusted with dreams.

Maybe

[spark egret]

🫣

[lethal moat]

Perchance

[fast forge]

Dinosaurs are unfortunate and necessary

[regal horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-the-isle-gmod-troodon-troodon-the-isle-dilophosaurus-gif-9629496049012538059

[regal horizon]

When you comin back to petits? 😔

[lethal moat]

I do like to think of AE’s actions in phases with different controls/powers that be, like before and after the Titanomachy

[alpine whale]

Stupid question but i guess the lore is like pretty big can anyone Tell "all" about it or did some one have?

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

This is a decent start, you can ask followup questions here

[alpine whale]

okay thx

[tacit loom]

How did primal carnage connect to the isle?

[lethal moat]

Used to be a partnership and within the same universe, type M strain and such

[acoustic osprey]

Kinda

[acoustic osprey]

I'll explain better in a bit more detail when I get back home

Just to clarify if you want

But what rump said about the partnership is relatively what happened though

[lethal moat]

I dunno legacy stuff

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/no-biggie-steve-a-minecraft-movie-don't-worry-about-it-jack-black-gif-375398176403622926

i can only forgive you for so long.....!!

[acoustic osprey]

Dondi, owner of the Isle, used to work as one of the main devs (iirc, level design) of Primal Carnage
the original one not PCE

When he made The Isle (albeit i am not sure on specifics), originally, there was not much of known lore
and basically all that was happening from the beginning of Isle was the foundational 'getting it started'

of course, we know lore things were being thought about and worked on. It was Don's GAME and he, iirc, helped with PC but quite likely had some of his own ideas

You may see alternative versions of old concept arts that show other companies like Pallas Corp
ultimately, these little things never really made its way through the game nor its lore.

Isle lore started to actually 'lore' from 2017
(this is also when Legacy lore was set as well)
Which slowly saw things like Olympus Transmitter, etc
then it was teased and shown with things like CCH (Carnage Comes Home, which is an old PC phrase)
Then stuff like User Inquiries telling us with things like "Operation Inferno"
What we saw was basically Don saying (roughly) 'i want what we used for Primal Carnage, but done my way for the game' — like how Magna Rex is basically 1:1 with Rex from PC

ultimately, though, it went no where in 2019 (due to recode)
UNTIL we got Hope.
which teased it again (CCH, iirc)
therefore, PC lore was supposed (to note, not specifically "PRIMAL CARNAGE LORE" from their games, but the 'foundational/core' aspects that made up its lore then Isle-fied to fit Isle Lore/Don's vision/Dons alternative reality lore ||that being, alternative from PC||)

however, a few years back, it seems like Don changed his mind
he wants no more of such, which is a crazy 180 flip
which is good, in my opinion - allows him to be 'free' in the worldbuilding world of writing

[tacit loom]

thats cool didnt know that

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[hexed forge]

thanks

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[tulip coral]

Is that the best playable in The Isle

[regal horizon]

Debatable, but def a possibility

[pearl aurora]

just found this weird game and it's backstory is very interesting to me too, where can I read more into all this stuff?

[acoustic osprey]

specifically Isle? (a lot easier than Primal Carnage)
i would definitely recommend trying to read "Evrima" (i.e. the 'new' steam branch, that has been recoded from the ground up)
but where can you read/find out more on its lore...

There is the immediate 'lore summary' stuff
like Rumple's doc in the pinned comments of this channel https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
I would 100% recommend this

Then, if you want to see 'actual lore' instead of summary stuff
some lore stuff is posted in #isle-phase-three (however, the 'lore papers' sent in there are mostly in the pinned messages here as well)
AND if you want them a lot easily, we can always send you an invite to our unofficial Isle Lore Discord
There is also the Isle YouTube channel which has actual videos, like about "AUGUSTUS" and The Dibble File Recovery Video
If you want to see some youtube analysis stuff, there is always Lightclaw and 1tinydinosaur (to name a few, out of the few that do/have done lore stuff)

[hallow ruin]

WELCOME TO THE ISLE!

[acoustic osprey]

^

honestly, i don't want to advertise, but Lorecord would probably be your best bet into seeing the best compilation of lore

as it is built for lore

(despite also being a community)

[hallow ruin]

the least insane isle community

like literally

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/finn-scared-breathing-terrified-fear-gif-9623358

[pearl aurora]

Woah! How can I join?

[acoustic osprey]

i'll send an invite!

[torpid roost]

another the isle lore victim...

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1061302480211812432/B6E87381-36E0-47D1-A805-9A5E282973EF.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205981060194893855/1355318942004150528/this-chart-applies-to-everything-captures-my-feelings-v0-diktmcdysbgb1.gif

[icy onyx]

Devblog day🥳

[opaque aspen]

Deinosuchus can go in the ocean right? How would people in the lore keep it from just migrating to other islands?

[muted hill]

Same thing for pterosaurs aswell ^

The player does have a tracking implant so potenially capture teams at some time in the lore

[hallow ruin]

putting light on this so no one forgets it exists

https://carlitotorino.artstation.com/projects/zA8Gy6

[fast forge]

deino would struggle to cross open ocean, needing island chains to hop across

Quetz on the other hand could probably do it

[smoky gazelle]

The only animals that could escape are the gen 2s

the ones you spawn in as without being nested are "tracked"

[snow jasper]

thats interesting, but that design is very contemporary for a brutalistic universe

[hallow ruin]

agreed
but its still cool in general tbh

[lethal moat]

Is there a reason gen 2s wouldn’t also be chipped?

[smoky gazelle]

they were born by the mother who was chipped. They wouldnt have one inside of em when born. Just speaking based off of what I see ingame. Wouldnt be possible.

but its likely possible in lore obviously

[lethal moat]

Oh, you’re talking about nested dinosaurs, not gen 2 the humans, yeah, they don’t get chipped unless someone goes around after and chips them

[smoky gazelle]

yeah thats what I was meaning aha. nested dinos

gen 2 humans would def be chipped

[low scarab]

thats tough

[hushed sun]

So we know that Humans will be added to the game. and we also saw the big cages and the arena structures in the devblogs. so i wonder what will a human have on his to do list when he spawns on the isle.. i think a big part of it will be to rearm the outposts with energy and barriers (that a rex can destroy) find ammo and survive on food (maybe deers/boars/goats). But how are they able to catch a dinosaur and put it in a cage.. or a arena.. so i informed myself.. imagine on the top of the to do list of a human will be to catch a T rex ora trike! maybe with tranquilizer darts for their weapons and if they did it and where able to put a apex to sleep then what.. how can they transport a 9-10 ton beast..

lady's and gentlemen i present you the Mil Mi-26 Helicopter that is able to carry up to 20 tons of cargo.

and this helicopter rly suits the safari type of the isle

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

I’m holding out for a wrecked container ship

[fast forge]

The "arena structures" are just temporary holding pens

[hushed sun]

whaaat for what??

[fast forge]

you said arena structure

[hushed sun]

bro idk

[fast forge]

yeah I figured you meant these ^

[rigid tartan]

I mean there’s the wrecked cargo near east pond. So why not a full blown ship to explore

[hushed sun]

ah sry i didnt meant thos big glassy things

[lethal moat]

Mhm, Dondi’s mentioned how it would be fun, so I’m very hopeful

[fast forge]

These are big holding pens for animals too large to fit in a cage

[lethal moat]

I think salty semiaquatics nesting in there would be super cool

[rigid tartan]

Be a cool spot for raptors if they could nest there too

[lethal moat]

Austroraptors just chilling in a cargo hole with a massive gash in it

[icy onyx]

Devlog wen

[fast forge]

give it like 4 hours
10 max

[lethal moat]

I want the giant crabs to act like the sand worms from dune

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/seikret-monster-hunter-wilds-balahara-monster-hunter-falling-gif-4058089271272402134

[acoustic osprey]

i remember

[regal horizon]

Preach brother

[icy onyx]

I thought it was devblog😭 😭

[regal horizon]

i am so sorry <.<

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-happy-steam-happy-gif-4531022007608143773

i forgive you

[regal horizon]

[acoustic osprey]

you guys think we'll see anything lore-ish in the devblog today?

[regal horizon]

perhaps something regarding the tunnel systems

[icy onyx]

hopefully humans

but thats another level hopium

[hexed forge]

Hey Islanders

[hexed forge]

GUTS stuff perchance.. but I doubt so for some reason..

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/what-happened-what-happened-to-you-as-a-child-what-kind-of-trauma-makes-you-act-like-this-stare-stare-cat-gif-2454779732634892782

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1192975193241559040/1356420617255125002/svuuwqZA.gif

[acoustic osprey]

we could to see the new HUBs place

And finally I’ve begun work on a massive new HUB which isn’t the industrial one, who, I won’t for now disclose much, and will sadly have to wait for the next dev blog.

please...

however, so, right now we have an Admin/Industrial HUB
what shall the new one be

[long onyx]

i saw one of these irl once

[zenith frigate]

Oh is devblog today

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/helluva-boss-helluva-boss-hazbin-hotel-gif-21156926

[zenith frigate]

[grave river]

Hmm thought blogs came out by now

[lethal moat]

@icy onyx Your initiation has begun

Start with this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[icy onyx]

like.. evil giggle

I don't the gif name

[icy onyx]

that is a LOT

feels like I got kicked in the face

[acoustic osprey]

and at the same time, it is not... haha

[icy onyx]

yea, I agree. Nothing and everything at the same time

[lethal moat]

That's a lot of information for changing very little on what you know lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/finn-scared-breathing-terrified-fear-gif-9623358

[hexed forge]

You know what,
Im putting imaginary money on the table that we'll get UI news

[icy onyx]

yes. Have you ever seen Terra Nova? I was imagining something like that at first

[acoustic osprey]

well... at least we might get some guts hub.... but UI would be amazing

[lethal moat]

Give me phase three posting

https://tenor.com/view/no-quarter-gif-24082251

STRAIN PLANTS

[hexed forge]

yahoo

[lethal moat]

@patent ginkgo

GET IN HERE

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-ahhh-scared-nervous-shouts-gif-16852865

[hexed forge]

I lost my imaginary money

[acoustic osprey]

woohoo

[magic ruin]

Mia lore:

A diet of bugged vegetables drives them to madness. Their puppet eyes roll across the plains, searching out crunchable carnivores. Their coinage is the pancaked bodies of raptors, each a fleshy discus that they dance about with their unknowable glee. The direct ancestors of the modern clown, their honks and stompy feet herald doom for all of inferior tonnage.

[fast forge]

Metallivore

[hexed forge]

Lab 9

I think..

@acoustic osprey Is IX, Nine?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[lethal moat]

And carniverous plants too

[fast forge]

This plant ate a lightpost

[lethal moat]

Labs coming soon, exciting

HEHEHEHE

[hexed forge]

Metallivore plants are neat

[frozen totem]

holy hand grenades the strain plants are LIT!

[hexed forge]

So two confirmed strain plants,

Mendys and Metallivores

[fast forge]

I'm so excited

this is really cool

[lethal moat]

This was a very good dev blog

[iron anchor]

these strain plants are indepedent from the 3 strains we know?

[lethal moat]

Potentially, I can see metallivores being hyper and mendys being tisso

[acoustic osprey]

so what i am curious
is the Lab a HUB?

[iron anchor]

yeah, i can see a few signs of them there, i wonder if its a mix of things like the matriarch

[lethal moat]

Oh these flowers change color when you get close, thats so co- OH MY GOD IT GRABBED ME HELP

[iron anchor]

where have i seen this before

[fast forge]

I think Mendys might be greek for "bad month"

[iron anchor]

prometheus?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-cute-gif-9449240

[iron anchor]

yeee

[hexed forge]

I would say so

[lethal moat]

If mendys also goes after bigger things that get close, I imagine the bleed is nuts

[iron anchor]

im glad its a plant instead, i wouldnt want to experience the snake version

[fast forge]

and even if you can destroy it, so what, it's a flower

you didn't win some battle

[lethal moat]

-Goes into undergound tunnel
-sees ivy
Its either pretty, making the tunnel unstable, or about to eat you

[fast forge]

Now why would AE make a plant that can eat metal? I'm sure it's not important

[iron anchor]

to get rid of all those triangles

[hexed forge]

To get rid of the alien civilization under the pyramids

[iron anchor]

duplicating triangles vs hungry plant

[lethal moat]

Reduce, reuse, recycle, turbo boost that ecosystem by feeding on what previously existed

[hexed forge]

lmao

[fast forge]

indeed

[hexed forge]

Pretty neat devblog

[hexed forge]

The wide open spaces really makes it unsettling for me lol

It's great

[fast forge]

"Bad liar"

Mendys

(probably pronounced like "men-diss")

[icy onyx]

How do we think that they would be applied to dinosaurs tho

[lethal moat]

That fits, given it has a tell before it strikes

[icy onyx]

If they attack you, would the plants die, and you get "Infected" or maybe you eat it?

[fast forge]

Mendys is carnivorous, so it's probably a PvE environmental hazard

[fast forge]

that was my thought as well, it's really cool

[hexed forge]

I think you would catch a sickness and die

I don't think you could become a metal eating strain dino lol

[icy onyx]

lol

[fast forge]

Yeah the metallivore is probably just ambience, a creepy thing that exists in this world

[icy onyx]

very cool either way

[lethal moat]

It has adhesive

[fast forge]

true, you could get stuck to it

[hexed forge]

" but you might find it a tad unnerving when watching these plants grow."

Hopefully they grow in real-time.. maybe..
Depends on how it effects server performance

[iron anchor]

whats going on here

[fast forge]

looks like tubers, a root

[iron anchor]

yeah

[fast forge]

Maybe it's edible, and used as bait

[iron anchor]

spread the plant?

[icy onyx]

Lol, it looks like a

[iron anchor]

didnt realize

[icy onyx]

Tardigrade

[fast forge]

corm

[iron anchor]

its a potato

[fast forge]

it does look like a tardigrade

that would make it extra creepy if it did in game too

[craggy wedge]

sneak peaks solved heres the 4 sneak peaks from the latest devblog

[iron anchor]

very sad

[lethal moat]

Wrong channel

[craggy wedge]

oh mb, what channel do i put that in

[lethal moat]

GUYS WE CAN UPDATE THE LORE DOCK

[lethal moat]

https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/855527844670865438

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[hexed forge]

yay

[echo gazelle]

are there other cameras im unaware of or is the one in that lab ix the first

[hexed forge]

I think there are cameras at Docks and the Atrium

But I am not 100% sure

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[echo gazelle]

ah okay, also that mendysplant i wonder if it referd to minyades, whis were three daughters thta refused to worship dionysus and their defiance led to their transformation into bats, owls, eagles owls

[muted reef]

Wow Strain plants are confirmed

[lethal moat]

Might be, I'm personally a big fan of "bad liar" https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/855527844670865438

[bright shoal]

yeah i think Tiny is right

[fast forge]

The name could also mean "Bad Month"

also uh it might have gynecological connotations

Tbh I'm getting vibes from the flower scene in The Wall

[acoustic osprey]

so Type-Ms exist now

https://tenor.com/view/jake-jake-the-dog-funny-laugh-laughing-gif-5372688

[bright shoal]

Type M?

[acoustic osprey]

Mendys

[lethal moat]

I wouldn't say that

[bright shoal]

Metallivore plant too

[acoustic osprey]

TWO Type-Ms

[bright shoal]

and theyre both different

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/reir-jake-hora-de-aventura-riza-burlarse-gif-21439441

[bright shoal]

M&Ms

[acoustic osprey]

yum

[echo gazelle]

well apollo does cater to perfect organisms, why not plants

[fast forge]

Why would you want a more dangerous carnivorous plant?

[prisma crown]

they started with plants right…

[acoustic osprey]

that is the question

[fast forge]

The metallivore makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

i wonder how necessary Mendys were/are
or if they are only a replicator thing

[fast forge]

Carnivory -> Hypers?

[lethal moat]

Guarding, or just making life difficult for those that aren't supposed to be there

[muted reef]

What if an animal one day accidentally consumed or came into contact with a plant and mutated

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
does carnivory relate to just the endocrine? (I don't know)

[fast forge]

Actually

[acoustic osprey]

spot the QR code

[fast forge]

Real-life carnivorous plants evolved their signature abilities because they grow in malnourished soil (often swamps) and need to supplement their nutrition

This could be the same? Really well-adapted to poor soils?

[prisma crown]

oh boy another qr code so low res you can’t scan it!!!

[fast forge]

These plants are usually lacking nitrogen, a critical nutrient for plants

The thing with nitrogen is it's not always in a usable form. Many plants have growths on their roots that harbor bacteria that can convert the nitrogen in the soil into a usable form

So this plant potentially has two ways of getting nitrogen

So maybe it's really good in areas with terrible soil

[hexed forge]

Oh actually I wonder if this Lab is actually connected to the structure in Water access

[hexed forge]

It's on the vending machine, unless Isaac is talking about a new QR code

[patent ginkgo]

Huh

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-guardians-of-the-galaxy2-peter-quill-star-lord-star-lord-what-gif-24549462

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

that would be cool
a bit weird of a location but cool

[hexed forge]

I mean,

I wouldn't say it's an unusual location for it

[acoustic osprey]

i wonder if all Labs will be underground/part of the HUB

[acoustic osprey]

because it seems like a place that would be there should relate more to marine stuff

[prisma crown]

that would be cool if it was underground

[acoustic osprey]

but hey, we don't know if Lab 9 relates to marine stuff or not

[hexed forge]

I feel like the majority would be

[hexed forge]

True I guess...

[acoustic osprey]

mmm
but i can also imagine top side Labs

maybe they don't?

[prisma crown]

it’s labs from hit game escape from tarkov

[acoustic osprey]

maybe majority of human stuff is down below
while dino stuff is up above

seeing as Hubs are part of GUTS
I am going to put Lab 9 / Lab IX as a part of it
like the Industrial Hub

@lethal moat for the doc that is

[hexed forge]

If you want it to be on the surface I think it would depend on which part of the island it's placed in.

There's only a few limited options and yet those might change

[hexed forge]

Probably

[lethal moat]

I put in the strain plants just bellow the main stran section

[patent ginkgo]

I haven’t had a good look yet at the plants but I’ll do so in just a moment

Interestingly, been tending to my irl plants

[iron anchor]

was the reaper devblog the one before this one? the strainening

[lethal moat]

The one before that, but we're getting there for sure, a lot more as of recent

[iron anchor]

im not sure if this is the right place to ask but were all the legacy hyper models getting reworked? hyper carno, rex, spino, giga and neuro spino? also i cant remember if hyper utah was an official thing

[acoustic osprey]

nice

[iron anchor]

omniraptor is already a combination of different types of raptors right

[acoustic osprey]

hyper utah was, yeah

[acoustic osprey]

depends
we don't know the true lore

but the name would likely mean something akin to

[iron anchor]

oh ok

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as Vis would it down, last month, as a HUB
do i?

however, no mention about it being a Hub in this devbog

[iron anchor]

i dont know how genetics work but if it was a combination of multiple species, i wonder if the strain would target certain attributes of specific species more strongly

[acoustic osprey]

although it clearly is underground and likely connected to GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

the Matriarch

[iron anchor]

i dont know how much official stuff we know about the matriarch but isnt that more like the opposite

the matriarch is a thing that turns into other things

well this thing thing is complicated i need to think more about it

[acoustic osprey]

Don actually said this about the matriarch

A rapidly evolving creature that can intake biomass and reproduce certain physical properties

which, yeah, as you said
does sound quite different to what we originally knew/guessed about The Matriarch

although, 'targetting' certain attributes? Not sure

[iron anchor]

oh i thought we assumed that, didnt know it was official

[iron anchor]

what i meant here is like, if a dinosaur is like 0.1% trex and 99.9% utahraptor, but then the strain for whatever reason works better with the 0.1% trex than the 99.9% utahraptor, so for example with a hyper strain you would see more prominent rex features appear than utah

maybe like a finger being absorbed, or falling off, idk

bulkier structure

[fast forge]

I do know how genetics work (generally) and I think we don't know enough about either the matriarch or strains to make a judgement call on something like this

[iron anchor]

i would thumbs up react you but unfortunately i dont have perms

[fast forge]

no worries

[iron anchor]

actually that got me curious, do we know if the matriarch can be herbivorous, perhaps maybe even eat and gain things from the strain plants we just saw

[fast forge]

We know nothing about it

[iron anchor]

😢

[fast forge]

Like the only confirmed stuff is basically that one statement

A rapidly evolving creature that can intake biomass and reproduce certain physical properties

as far as I know

[iron anchor]

yeah certain physical properties

that could be so many things

[fast forge]

Dondi speak

We are kinda used to it 'round here

He has an oblique way of speaking where lore is concerned (understandably)

The most famous bit of Matriarch stuff is the non-canon art drawn by Tapwing, who was later hired by the company. So it's possible her version of the matriarch becomes reality, but for now we can't say

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[iron anchor]

yeah, i swear we assumed in lorecord because of the art that it became what it ate. didnt know dondi said it himself, to an extent

was the art deconfirmed or just never mentioned if its either

[acoustic osprey]

nah
I do not like looking at Taps stuff

[iron anchor]

how come

[acoustic osprey]

the art isn't even canon

just her own head canon

[iron anchor]

oh it was just on her own time kind of thing?

oh ok

[acoustic osprey]

yes
before and while she was a dev

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-memes-wonder-woman-gif-19782520

[acoustic osprey]

Here you can see an image of a top down layout showing the highest floor

highest floor

[prisma crown]

zombs royale

[acoustic osprey]

that would be mean it is multi levelled

[fast forge]

I noted this too

[acoustic osprey]

i am curious, though, if all the levels are part of Lab 9
OR each level is a different Lab number

lab 9 is the highest
and goes down to 1, the lowest)

[prisma crown]

yea im curious why its lab 9

[lethal moat]

Highest might still mean ground floor

I do think it's 9 seperate labs though, not one per floor

[fast forge]

are those ventilation ducts in the top left?

[acoustic osprey]

that is what i said

[fast forge]

The big room in bottom center is what... reception?

Or a docking bay?

But I think those are desks?

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
my mums lab is situated in one floor
and another lab below her for a different section of human biology science

depends on what they mean by "Lab"

[prisma crown]

laboratory number nine

[fast forge]

oh yeah that's it

[lethal moat]

Looks like a main entrance

[fast forge]

I forgot about those images

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[prisma crown]

looks like that scp game

[lethal moat]

Maybe not reception, since I don't see any waiting area

[acoustic osprey]

middle left is the lab labs

[acoustic osprey]

it is probably a reception akin section
as you said, main entrance

I don't really imagine they would have visitors needing seeting

[fast forge]

oh I just noticed the spooky windows watching over everything from above

[acoustic osprey]

you're either there because you work there
or there because they work for you

[prisma crown]

AE and "visitors" doesnt seem right lol

[acoustic osprey]

actually let me double check

[fast forge]

security?

[lethal moat]

True, but it's also more utilitarian, there's a large storage area there, so you could just drive pallets of material in through the front and to the left

[acoustic osprey]

yeah it is it

[fast forge]

I think they were selling a product, so yeah visitors

[prisma crown]

on the island?

[prisma crown]

oh

[fast forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

being as it is part of GUTS
makes sense

[prisma crown]

that doesnt make sense to me but ill roll with it!

[acoustic osprey]

be cautious though
we know these are very suspicious

as Don said something along the lines of them being not real
forgot the quote

[fast forge]

everyone else thought it was a red herring
I think don was just messing with us

[acoustic osprey]

he did say it though

[lethal moat]

I think he's messing with us too

[fast forge]

he said he could be messing with us

[prisma crown]

yall think theres gonna be a metro style map posted around GUTS when its implemented

[fast forge]

that doesn't mean he was, or that it was this specifically

[prisma crown]

honestly road signs would be a really cool addition to some parts of the map

[lethal moat]

He said something along the lines of misleading people just tuning in for content or something similar, but it matches up with the early map we've seen

[acoustic osprey]

please please

do something similar to Harry Beck's stuff

[prisma crown]

AH PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

[prisma crown]

walking along a path and seeing a overgrown sign to docks would be such an immersive addition

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dennis-nedry-wayne-knight-jurassic-park-ingen-movies-gif-24822830

[prisma crown]

[acoustic osprey]

here is what i got from chatgpt's deep research

Latin Roots
menda, mendum (Latin noun): means “fault, defect, blemish”​
. (From PIE mend- “fault.”) Related words include mendax (“lying”) and mendacium (“deceit”). This sense is negative (a flaw), but it gives the stem mend- for repair.
mendāre (Latin verb): “to mend, repair, correct” (from menda). In classical Latin mendare came to mean “to fix” or “to remedy,” giving English mend, amend, remedy​
. Thus one could creatively treat Mendys as “mender” or “healer” – a fixer of flaws. (Literally mendare is “remove faults”​
. mendīc- (Latin root): yields mendīcus (“beggar” from mendicare, to beg) and mendāx (“liar, deceitful”). These are negative offshoots of mend-. A strain name would likely ignore these unsavory meanings, focusing instead on the “mend” = heal sense.

Greek Roots
μέν (mén), μήνη (mēnē): Greek for “month” or “moon.” Selene (Moon goddess) was called Mene, literally “Moon,” and her masculine counterpart Men was a lunar deity​
. The root meno-/men- (Gr. μενο-, μην-) thus evokes the moon or cyclic time​
. Mendys beginning with Men- could hint at lunar or seasonal cycles of nature.
μένος (ménos): “spirit, might, passion” in Homeric Greek (often translated “divine wrath” or “vigor”). This suggests inner strength or powerful energy (though this root isn’t literally in “Mendys,” it is a phonetic cousin). It could inspire a sense of potency or force in a strain name.
dys- (δύς): Greek prefix meaning “bad, difficult, disordered”​
. Standing alone this is negative (dystopia, dysfunction), so dys at the end of Mendys would normally imply “ill” or “hard.” We wouldn’t want Mendys to mean “bad mend,” but we can note it.
Δύσις (Dýsis): means “sunset” (literally, sunset as a noun)​
. Dysis is the personified sunset in myth. By creative stretch, one could see Men + Dysis → “Mendysis,” shortened to Mendys, as “moonset” or a twilight transformation (transition from day to night). This invokes cycles of nature and change.

[acoustic osprey]

PIE being proto-indo-european

[fast forge]

interestign

[bright shoal]

would explain its carnivorous behavior. was made to remove unwanted things from an area? so pretty much biological barbed wire. (someone said somethin similar earlier)

[acoustic osprey]

will be interesting to see the infirmary

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[bright shoal]

i need to see the cafeteria and kitchen asap

[acoustic osprey]

you can if you go to the docks lol

specifically the harbour master

[bright shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-park-velociraptor-velociraptor-gif-16913766

[acoustic osprey]

it is very simple

not a proper kitchen though

[prisma crown]

microwave left powered

[echo gazelle]

reheating more lore

[acoustic osprey]

i wonder if this is a floppy disk drive

[fast forge]

looks more like CD, unless it's the really old floppies

also most floppy drives I remember were not external, but built into the computer

but cd drives were frequently an external drive purchased separately from the main computer, especially early in the 90's

[echo gazelle]

a little wide for a floppy disc drive but i see the appeal, also disc readers iirc had buttons which allowed you to insert via tray but that one looks almost automated to where it suctions it

[acoustic osprey]

'Modern' floppy drives are external

Depends on when this lab is set

[acoustic osprey]

this is 100% from 'behind' the LAB IX sign
up on the top

but i am curious on that far back light

because that would be the entrance to LAB IX

far left of this (unseen)

https://gyazo.com/3dfcfefb62ef2fcb2901fb61c9d9fd2b

i am curious
are those bollards?

i don't remember, nor can't remember, if the isle bollards have a "T"-shaped design

rather than just the "I" design

i don't even know why i did this

but hey, this very useful bit of info

on the middle right is definitely a meeting room of sort

we don't know what is 'through' the entrance room
as there is a door which seems to have some sort of trolly in it
https://gyazo.com/56e5b952d8b16931e18c30ea8546afc5

[prisma crown]

kitchen!!!!

[acoustic osprey]

which reminds me of the trolly that they have in IKEA restraunts

[acoustic osprey]

yeah lol
one of those 'plate trollies'

and it is generally below the presumed lounge/cafeteria area (top right)

although
that seems like a bit of an interesting place to place a kitchen

especially in a LAB

[prisma crown]

yea it’s odd

but that’s the only place I’ve seen those

[acoustic osprey]

although i was curious

[echo gazelle]

the building schematic and the different color coding makes me wonder what that top left room is with the vertical pipeline looking thing is

[acoustic osprey]

i really want to see them implement the lighting seen from the concept art

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[acoustic osprey]

apparently it is seen a lot in GUTS tunnels
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347232094320984065/1356713920387354674/02c5c4b7960373566dbbbf41a507fb57676aa91f.png?ex=6813cd4d&is=68127bcd&hm=627f3557fe5b764b4b0a7398af39001a1bd2298de46f61f738da59ba39d06ac9&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347232094320984065/1356713954935570562/64ed1a02fa808ea0e9c9ac74fb948b94649a1b3c.png?ex=6813cd55&is=68127bd5&hm=36d0181c2b7f7b1d0194bad8df9cf3374eb572ee64291a359c48d4a5a6022444&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347232094320984065/1356714020647862323/6896b9222bb6bcb4e5f24cf912650113e109a67a.png?ex=6813cd65&is=68127be5&hm=8ffb7d26303ea7c2e0e93a617c3f969ab2555a5d1b57f3b3c33bbd9a2f114771&

so it might be connected to a specific tunnel?

saying that
it just goes through the room, but we don't see it in the other room

i do wonder what they are for

actually, i am going to check the current Hub at the volcano on HT
See if the blue pipes are there

[echo gazelle]

blue as far as piping typically indicates drinkable water

[acoustic osprey]

if so
I wonder what the valve in the first picture would be used for

well, to stop the water i suppose haha

[echo gazelle]

the pipeline feeds upwards aswell, so if thats in GUTS then wonder if it's direct connect

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't be surprised

[acoustic osprey]

the third image i sent has the pipes feeding in weirdly
so i wonder if there is a whole funky labyrinth of pipes lol

[acoustic osprey]

like how you spotted it in here
it just comes in and goes out, where the room next to it has nothing

[echo gazelle]

if Lab IX (floor 9) is indeed by flooring then it would make sense with the piping feeding throughout the building

[acoustic osprey]

yea

[echo gazelle]

oh they do have a yellow-ish pipeline as well on that GUTS layout which is gas and/or communication which is orange

[weary moat]

hmmmmmmm yes

[echo gazelle]

but that one is mustard looking

[weary moat]

I love that emoji

[acoustic osprey]

most of the pipes, especially in the "GUTS tunnel" section do generally line up
a lot more than the picture that visualtech made of the rough layout

[weary moat]

Maybe the mustard color things are actually thick wires? I think of yellow and think of power. Or maybe sewage

oh like you said, probably gas

[acoustic osprey]

electrical wires (cable) are usually small and black

that is, DMX

[weary moat]

Was thinking of video game knowledge. Are gas pipes usualy that thick though?

[echo gazelle]

most those are essential to run a building, red is electrical, blue is potable water and yellow gas/oil/petro/steam etc

butt that's just general piping code

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, a bit smaller is a bit more realistic

[weary moat]

Thats what I was thinking too

mmmmmmmmmmmmm yes

[acoustic osprey]

we have a grey one as well

[echo gazelle]

well shoot

[acoustic osprey]

ah, and also, i forgot, big pipe

they are also near the big Atrium
and dump near the swamp

[echo gazelle]

it possibly could be non-drinkable but that orange bit bothers me towards the end

oh yeah there's the sewage for sure, green

[acoustic osprey]

most likely

[echo gazelle]

colors could also not have been placed as i see a lot of grey besides certain objects

[acoustic osprey]

holy mother of pipes Luncha haha

the romans would be spewing!

[echo gazelle]

oh more grey, yeah probably non-drinkable aka maybe sprinkler system

[acoustic osprey]

ye

[echo gazelle]

a red with a valve tho, interesting

i may be thinking too much into it, dang

the lore got me

besides the piping, this little chemical incubator (if its what it is) is pretty neat

[acoustic osprey]

*turns out they are all just condiments *

[echo gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[acoustic osprey]

give me some blue berry jam!

[acoustic osprey]

it is pretty cool and i wish i tried to get into science in high school

[echo gazelle]

it stood out to me, plus it was a random sky blue color in an almost all grey room

[acoustic osprey]

to clarify
they go under the swamp (?) / 'into' the swamp
and are grated to an extent

ends right below the camera
fun

[echo gazelle]

i assume just for maintenace and for stinky water to go as it's primarily underground

[acoustic osprey]

now that we have an official lab area

do you guys think that the "TANKS" is connected to Lab IX in any sort of capacity?

saying that
what do we believe the official capacity of the term 'lab' is used in both contexts'?

I do not have the lab set up but
as this is what Don says

[acoustic osprey]

however, what i mean with this is

Is LAB (in the context of LAB IX ||presuming it is just in all caps and not an acronym||) specifically concerning a building "equipped for scientific experiments, research, or teaching, or for the manufacture of drugs or chemicals."
Or is it even a bit more 'loose'
Seeing as VisualTech says LAB IX has an armoury

Where "TANKS" could be way more specific
Either a specific room (wherever) that has specialised tanks and does specialised experiments

or facility, but not to the degree of being a Hub

seeing as VisualTech, last month, referred to LAB IX as another (but distinct) Hub

also did some edits for the lore doc, woohoo

[young sphinx]

Swamp got updates?

[acoustic osprey]

i believe it is in Evrima
or when HT updated first

[acoustic osprey]

now i need the green

[young sphinx]

I wonder if there will be test tubes like in jp

[acoustic osprey]

well....

[young sphinx]

The strain plants

I wonder if there will be files about them

[acoustic osprey]

100% !!
I WOULD LOVE to see stuff like that

[pseudo lantern]

metallivore glance sheet!

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[hexed forge]

Probably not the "typical glance sheet"
But I can definitely see a paper similar to it, but for plants specifically

[young sphinx]

Even some cam footage too

[acoustic osprey]

that would be sick

[pseudo lantern]

Field Observation:
it ate a rock.
IT ATE. A ROCK.

[acoustic osprey]

IT ATE A .... oh it ate all of our garbage waste
woohoo

(makes more)

[pseudo lantern]

this could be useful.. OH REPLICATOR

[acoustic osprey]

(eats all of their useful metal)

[pseudo lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/hog-rider-coc-clash-of-clans-gif-24053135

[acoustic osprey]

imagine The Atrium falling
because of them

The Atrium has fallen 🗣️

[young sphinx]

Ae operatives really did their big one creating a metal eating plant

[pseudo lantern]

billions must replicate

[young sphinx]

Would like to see how they broke out of containment

[snow jasper]

seeing the labs alongside the brutalistic architectural standard of AE feels really off to me

[acoustic osprey]

when

[snow jasper]

plus what im assuming to be cafeteria is insanely unsettling for some reason

[snow jasper]

No ETAs

:)

[acoustic osprey]

the lonely "LAB IX" wall is so funny
like "this is where you work 🙂 "

[snow jasper]

I did find that rather odd too

Certainly no shortage of vending machines either

[acoustic osprey]

lol

'eat here'

[hexed forge]

It's very unsettling and that is why I like it

[snow jasper]

The entire diet of a Gen 1 consists of produce from vending machines

[snow jasper]

An entire hall where only 1/3 is actually seated

eebie jeebies

[hexed forge]

Exactly

[snow jasper]

Although, I am relieved that AE understands the purpose of a Kettle

[young sphinx]

Open space plan don’t feel quite right, seems like a cubical type area

[acoustic osprey]

no carpets

is crazy

[young sphinx]

That’s probably why I think the containment breach was an inside job

Someone was sick of their 9-5

[hexed forge]

Errant 291..

[snow jasper]

I do hope the labs aren't just stuck underground

[acoustic osprey]

maybe...

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/grey-cat-cry-gif-2840808548593801720

[young sphinx]

Would be nice to have some labs scattered across the island. Even ones that focus on different things which is reflected on what we find there too

[acoustic osprey]

Lab 9

[hallow ruin]

the one in devblog? wasnt XI meaning 6?

[snow jasper]

VI is six

[rigid tartan]

XI would be 11

[snow jasper]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

no... it is IX

[hallow ruin]

is that a difference?

[snow jasper]

i hope roman numerals never die out in use, they're not practical, but certainly cool

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

like saying
hi
and ih

[hallow ruin]

LMAO

[acoustic osprey]

except

ih has a meaning in this context

[tropic saddle]

IX is 9

[hallow ruin]

okay now i get it

[rigid tartan]

Only time I wish they did was because of my math books required me to use them to solve problems….

[acoustic osprey]

XI is 11
IX is 9
X is 10

I II III IV (originally IIII) V
VI VII VIII IX X

[snow jasper]

i have a roman numeral clock in my room so i understand them enough

I wonder where the tally mark for 5 came from

[pseudo lantern]

eins.. zwei.. drei..... vier

[snow jasper]

1 2 3 4

[pseudo lantern]

you forgot to carry the 1

classic blunder

[snow jasper]

nooooo!

[acoustic osprey]

why is there only 2 lab tracks